Could you explain the form question about USB placement? Isn’t that standardized for A.87 and B.87?
Could you explain the form question about USB placement? Isn’t that standardized for A.87 and B.87?some pcb changed a little using usbport under pcb. we want to fit as many case as possible so there's that option :thumb:
Some makers used the A.87 size but either used a cable that's attached via a JST connector (no usb option) or placed the usb on the other side of the board for some reason. Usually it's on the top for A.87.
What I'm more interested in is why this is offered in B.87 size when B.87 has the USB on the leftShow Image(https://puu.sh/Aphc7/1b3a83adf6.png)
Is this going to be using custom firmware? Or something existingWe make our own software and firmware. ;D ;D ;D
Might be interested in picking up a pcb + PC plate. Is the PC transparent or frosted?Frosted. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
If I want to order this PCB for a Mira SE, which option should I choose?
I want to order this for the Moon, what options should i choose?
You are planning on selling a case to go with this pcb at some point? Any idea how soon?A kit is being designed. But using type-c port.I'd say it will need at least 2 months. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Hi could you let us know how thick the polycarbonate plates are?
If I want to order this PCB for a Mira SE, which option should I choose?
B87 size. Choose PC plate if you needed. ;DI want to order this for the Moon, what options should i choose?
B87 size. Choose PC plate if you needed. ;D
Wait, really? I thought both the MIRA SE and the MOON had A87 ports (on the right side of the board between the main section and the navigation cluster).
Wait, really? I thought both the MIRA SE and the MOON had A87 ports (on the right side of the board between the main section and the navigation cluster).
hello, which will fit for orion v2 and lz-fe?
It is hard to find the information by myself
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Wait, really? I thought both the MIRA SE and the MOON had A87 ports (on the right side of the board between the main section and the navigation cluster).
This is exactly the problem I was going for when I asked.
It seems that they only used the B.87 size and stabilizer orientation but not the port-placement. Which makes this distinction almost useless because 95% of boards fit both without any issues. If you have the choice get B.87 size because the spacebar stabilizer orientation leads to less wobble.
Wait, so is this for certain because I want to make sure that if I get the B.87 for my Mech27v1 it will fit properly.
You are planning on selling a case to go with this pcb at some point? Any idea how soon?A kit is being designed. But using type-c port.I'd say it will need at least 2 months. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Hi C3, what should I be selecting if I need a pcb to replace Moon TKL? Will the pcb fit exactly on Eve Moon?B.87 with no usb port.You have to use the daughter board in the Moon Kit. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Might be interested in picking up a pcb + PC plate. Is the PC transparent or frosted?Frosted. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Is the spacebar wire above or below the switch? I think the TX87 is above, but other PCBs have it above. Will that affect what plates are compatible?
Also I'm confused on the B.87 and A.87 size. What's the difference? I want was looking for a pcb that is the same size as the Leeku L3 pcb (TX87). That pcb fits the Mira, Jane, and Mech27.
nevermind I figured it out. A.87 has spacebar wire above. B.87 has spacebare below. USB port is in the same place.
Thanks! Is it possible to order two different plates with one pcb?
is either pcb compatible with SK0G?A87 fit Skog. ;D ;D ;D ;D
is either pcb compatible with SK0G?A87 fit Skog. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Which one should I buy for Fox Labs TIME TKL/WKL keyboard? Should I go with B87 & USB port up? Thank you.
FYI: Here is a close look at that PCB of TIME TKL (@36:00 of the video):
Because I'm lazy, will this work with a Jane r1?
Thanks! That's what I thought. Now to get a plate...Because I'm lazy, will this work with a Jane r1?
yep
a87 top usb
Which one should I buy for Fox Labs TIME TKL/WKL keyboard? Should I go with B87 & USB port up? Thank you.
FYI: Here is a close look at that PCB of TIME TKL (@36:00 of the video):
Which one should I buy for Fox Labs TIME TKL/WKL keyboard? Should I go with B87 & USB port up? Thank you.
FYI: Here is a close look at that PCB of TIME TKL (@36:00 of the video):
A87 but yeah
Thanks! That's what I thought. Now to get a plate...Because I'm lazy, will this work with a Jane r1?
yep
a87 top usb
Which one should I buy for Fox Labs TIME TKL/WKL keyboard? Should I go with B87 & USB port up? Thank you.
FYI: Here is a close look at that PCB of TIME TKL (@36:00 of the video):
A87 but yeah
Thank you Puddsy,you are such a nice guy. But time do use a B87 size,this is the reason we make B87 usb port on the right side,since we know most of the B87 is using right side port...at least that's what happens in China.... :p :p :p
Thanks! That's what I thought. Now to get a plate...Because I'm lazy, will this work with a Jane r1?
yep
a87 top usb
Thanks! That's what I thought. Now to get a plate...Because I'm lazy, will this work with a Jane r1?
yep
a87 top usb
just FYI, both their B.87 and A.87 have the usb on the right side, only difference is the dimensions of the edge of the pcb. B.87 has the spacebar wire under the switch, A.87 above the switch. I would double check what you're Jane has. If it's using a TX87 (Leeku), it should be bottom spacebar wire like my Mech27 is. So you'd have to choose B.87
You are planning on selling a case to go with this pcb at some point? Any idea how soon?A kit is being designed. But using type-c port.I'd say it will need at least 2 months. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
That's awesome can't wait!
Hello, beside your case, that will come in a couple of months or more, what are the compatible cases actually on the market?
thanks
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Hello, beside your case, that will come in a couple of months or more, what are the compatible cases actually on the market?
thanks
Well, our goal is to fit as many case as possible. So we will have A.87/B.87 mini port for sell later on as well(More expensive than GB price).And plus we can custom size for any keyboard design person/team. So i would say a lot case can be compatible later on.
Thanks, this means that I'll have to wait to buy your pcb because I have no idea of what cases are compatible.
what is the different between size A and size B? im a little confused
thanks
what is the different between size A and size B? im a little confused
thanks
I saved a comment of myself:
A.87 has the spacebar stabilizer wire above the switch
B.87 has the spacebar stabilizer wire below the switch
Both have the USB port in what we call the A.87 layout.
If you're buying a Moon, Mira, Jane, Mech27, TX87, Acrylic Unicorn: That's B.87
If you're buying a Orion, Unicorn, Koala: That's A.87
That is great info, iNViSiBiLiTi.
But what about USB orientation? top/bottom? I'm confused by that.
That is great info, iNViSiBiLiTi.
But what about USB orientation? top/bottom? I'm confused by that.
If you look at the PCB you are using it's easy to find it's top/bottom. Most of the PCB are using top usb port.
pretty much everything except some GON boards, i think
Do you have any pictures of the frosted polycarbonate plate? Alone or over the white PCB? I want PC plates for both MIRA SE and MOON. Also, how thick are the PC plates?[attachimg=1]
Thank you!
Is it compatible with Mars 8.0? if so what configSorry i don't have the size of Mars 8.0....If you have one you can measure it your self.
hi C³—Ears, could you tell me the measurement of the usb port "neck" (attached image) on your a87 pcb, please?[attachimg=1]
hi C³—Ears, could you tell me the measurement of the usb port "neck" (attached image) on your a87 pcb, please?(Attachment Link)
What board are you looking to fit? A87 have the smaller usb port.
for anyone interested, here they are (crudely) laid on top of each otherwow...Thanks for this man. It really helps. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ozPeQkj.jpg)
for anyone interested, here they are (crudely) laid on top of each otherwow...Thanks for this man. It really helps. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ozPeQkj.jpg)
Keycult should be B87 since they use TX-87 Pcb,right? ;D ;D ;D ;D
for anyone interested, here they are (crudely) laid on top of each otherwow...Thanks for this man. It really helps. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ozPeQkj.jpg)
Keycult should be B87 since they use TX-87 Pcb,right? ;D ;D ;D ;D
TX87 is A.87
it's also a slightly different than average footprint, but the only board i've found where that matters is skog
for anyone interested, here they are (crudely) laid on top of each otherwow...Thanks for this man. It really helps. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ozPeQkj.jpg)
Keycult should be B87 since they use TX-87 Pcb,right? ;D ;D ;D ;D
TX87 is A.87
it's also a slightly different than average footprint, but the only board i've found where that matters is skog
Which PCB is compatible with an LZ CLS?
for anyone interested, here they are (crudely) laid on top of each otherwow...Thanks for this man. It really helps. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ozPeQkj.jpg)
Keycult should be B87 since they use TX-87 Pcb,right? ;D ;D ;D ;D
TX87 is A.87
it's also a slightly different than average footprint, but the only board i've found where that matters is skogfor anyone interested, here they are (crudely) laid on top of each otherwow...Thanks for this man. It really helps. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ozPeQkj.jpg)
Keycult should be B87 since they use TX-87 Pcb,right? ;D ;D ;D ;D
TX87 is A.87
it's also a slightly different than average footprint, but the only board i've found where that matters is skog
TX87 and A87 are not compatible.
A.87PCB is bigger.
TX87 and A87 are not compatible.well damn
A.87PCB is bigger.
im doin a lot of learning in this thread
TX87 and A87 are not compatible.well damn
A.87PCB is bigger.
im doin a lot of learning in this thread
Me too. If the TX87 isn't sized as A.87, the a lot of kits I thought would work with this PCB are out. Is there a reference for this information to be sure?
TX87 and A87 are not compatible.well damn
A.87PCB is bigger.
im doin a lot of learning in this thread
Me too. If the TX87 isn't sized as A.87, the a lot of kits I thought would work with this PCB are out. Is there a reference for this information to be sure?
If you're buying a Moon, Mira, Jane, Mech27, TX87, Acrylic Unicorn: That's B.87
If you're buying a Orion, Unicorn, Koala: That's A.87
tbh i think my best course of action is get one and try it in my cases to see what happens cause i'm lost
Here,
PCBs out-line check.
The space bar stabilizer in B87 is the opposite direction.
This is VERY important.
(Attachment Link)
Thanks LZ.
If I understand this correctly, the spacebar on the TX87 (wire at the bottom) is opposite to the B87 (wire at the top), so the stabilizers won't fit because the switch plate expects them to be facing the other way?
Would plate mounted stabilizers work?
I saved a comment of myself:
A.87 has the spacebar stabilizer wire above the switch
B.87 has the spacebar stabilizer wire below the switch
Both have the USB port in what we call the A.87 layout.
If you're buying a Moon, Mira, Jane, Mech27, TX87, Acrylic Unicorn: That's B.87
If you're buying a Orion, Unicorn, Koala: That's A.87
Thanks LZ, you’ve saved me some expense and disappointment.
If there’s a future version of this PCB that’s a drop-in replacement for the TX87, I’ll be waiting with money in hand.
Thanks LZ, you’ve saved me some expense and disappointment.
If there’s a future version of this PCB that’s a drop-in replacement for the TX87, I’ll be waiting with money in hand.
cool,
I think C³-LDN make PCB
it would be better to make it smaller than or similar to tx87.
Aluminum keyboards using b87 are very few.
Just my think...haha
Hello! Noob question. Are there any cases that can be bought retail that can showcase both the per switch lighting and the underglow?
Will this fit the norbatouch case?
Just borrowed a TX-87 and compare with our B.87. The only difference is the stabs holes for the spacebar.
When we test this B.87 size,we used a Mira Se which using TX-87 and it worked with the same plate come from Mira Se and the PC plate we make. If the plate have enough space for the stabs,it should be fine.
Anyway,B87 size is fine for Moon,Mira,Mira Se and most custom 80%keyboard from Chinese Designer.
Anyone consider if this is a fit you can see the plate of you boards.If there's enough space for the spacebar stabs it could work. We can make sure all the Custom PC plate could work by changing it a little.
Btw,anyone know why i can't open my PM box?
(Attachment Link)
This is our PCB with OG mira se plate. It worked perfectly fine.The problem is if there is enough space for stabs hole. Where it facing is not a problem.
Just borrowed a TX-87 and compare with our B.87. The only difference is the stabs holes for the spacebar.
When we test this B.87 size,we used a Mira Se which using TX-87 and it worked with the same plate come from Mira Se and the PC plate we make. If the plate have enough space for the stabs,it should be fine.
Anyway,B87 size is fine for Moon,Mira,Mira Se and most custom 80%keyboard from Chinese Designer.
Anyone consider if this is a fit you can see the plate of you boards.If there's enough space for the spacebar stabs it could work. We can make sure all the Custom PC plate could work by changing it a little.
ok cool that means the TX87 is A.87 not B.87 and i was confused for no reasonQuoteBtw,anyone know why i can't open my PM box?
geekhack had a hardware failure and PMs are broken until they fix it(Attachment Link)
This is our PCB with OG mira se plate. It worked perfectly fine.The problem is if there is enough space for stabs hole. Where it facing is not a problem.
yeah ok the stabs on my mira (tx87) go the other way
but also it's about footprint, which is different on a.87 and b.87, and that matters on some cases
pretty much everything is compatible with tx87 right now, but for some reason i think you've misnamed it
gimme a bit and i'll make a smart post
Is it possible to get a TLDR about the custom PC plate working or not working with TX87 PCB? I'm traveling and on super slow internet, with limited time to read. Not talking about case compatibility but rather stabilizer placement and orientation.
It comes down to two things: plate (for stab orientation) and footprint (for whether or not it'll fit into the case)
The plate varies case by case, so it's hard to know for sure without testing. While stab orientation may not matter in the Mira, it might matter in an LZ CLS or an Eqaulz 80.
The B.87 standard is smaller than A.87, and the USB port is mounted differently on the Z-axis. This, again, comes down to a case-by-case basis. Some cases will have the USB port in a place that allows for easier access of a B.87 port, and some cases may not have the space to allow for an A.87 port.
The problem comes in with the TX87, which uses a slightly modified A.87 standard. This makes it closer to the size of a B.87 PCB, while still maintaining some aspects of an A.87 (stab orientation, USB port placement).
So, by my understanding, for any case that is confirmed to work with TX87, B.87 is the PCB to buy from this GB due to the slightly modified USB port placement to better suit A.87 cases. However, it mostly comes down to the case you're using. In some cases, the stab wires can only be used in one direction (TGR A.17 comes to mind)
This is my understanding of the situation.
Is it possible to get a TLDR about the custom PC plate working or not working with TX87 PCB? I'm traveling and on super slow internet, with limited time to read. Not talking about case compatibility but rather stabilizer placement and orientation. I've been considering getting the PC plate for my MiRA SE to use with tX87 PCB.
Is it possible to get a TLDR about the custom PC plate working or not working with TX87 PCB? I'm traveling and on super slow internet, with limited time to read. Not talking about case compatibility but rather stabilizer placement and orientation. I've been considering getting the PC plate for my MiRA SE to use with tX87 PCB.
Sorry i don't know what is TLDR. Our Mira PC plate is compatiable for Tx.87 PCB as well. So this should not be a problem...
do your polycarb plates have uv resistance coatingI don't think so...
Hi, hopefully this will be my first PCB purchase, will this come with all the LED's and diodes pre soldered like in the pictures?Everything is pre-soldered. So rest assure.
Sorry if this is a silly question also, How will we know if we are are selected to be in the GB?
any chance for alps support?
Hi, I am back. Just send out all the invoices. I will give you guys some time to pay for it. The leadtime will remain the same. Thanks everyone for all your love ;D ;D
is it too late to ordersorry its late to join the buy. We will have extras only for a little bit more expensive. ;D
I put in a form for a pcb but never ended up getting a invoicesir your paypal address is not right and i have send you a pm. Please pm me your right paypal address.
PCB is ready and we have received them. We are testing them right now and will be send out asap.
PCB is ready and we have received them. We are testing them right now and will be send out asap.
PCB is ready and we have received them. We are testing them right now and will be send out asap.
Ready as well except custom ones,packing will be arrived in 1 or 2 days and we will starting shipping.PCB is ready and we have received them. We are testing them right now and will be send out asap.
Great! How about the polycarbonate plates?
The form is still open, are you still taking orders or have extras?Sorry forget to close it....
Hi everyone
Packing is here. We are ready to go.
(Attachment Link)
The form is still open, are you still taking orders or have extras?Sorry forget to close it....
Yes,there will some stocks. Just you have to pay 10 more dollars each PCB.The form is still open, are you still taking orders or have extras?Sorry forget to close it....
Aw, well if there are any extras after the current orders ship out, I'd be interested in one.
Is there a possibility that this PCB will see a second run?Yup,R2 will happen. We will do some feedbacks to see if this PCB is good enough.Then we can move on to R2 and other layouts
I would be extremely pleased if someone with a TX87/TX84SE could double check fit. I'd love to snag an extra and a poly plate, if they do.
I would be extremely pleased if someone with a TX87/TX84SE could double check fit. I'd love to snag an extra and a poly plate, if they do.
This is supposed to fit MIRA SE, and MIRA SE was distributed with TX87 PCBs. So it should fit in TX86/TX84SE.
I would be extremely pleased if someone with a TX87/TX84SE could double check fit. I'd love to snag an extra and a poly plate, if they do.
This is supposed to fit MIRA SE, and MIRA SE was distributed with TX87 PCBs. So it should fit in TX86/TX84SE.
The pcb offered here will fit both those boards but the polycarb plate c3 is offering will not fit either one of those boards
I would be extremely pleased if someone with a TX87/TX84SE could double check fit. I'd love to snag an extra and a poly plate, if they do.
This is supposed to fit MIRA SE, and MIRA SE was distributed with TX87 PCBs. So it should fit in TX86/TX84SE.
well,anyone received the PCB are very welcomed to post anything on this thread.Just want to make sure i am not using offline version of GH... ;D
Just started testing mine everything seems to work except my "5" key. It does weird things... in notepad it posts a timestamp plus "tgv". In other programs it causes other random things to happen. I've tried manually setting the key to the number 5 and tried clearing the firmware. Nothing seems to fix it, but I'll keep trying.Try don't touch the PCB and test it.Put it on your desk and use something to cover your tweezers and test it. It has to be insulated to test.If fails again we can replace it for ya.
edit: figured out that it's actually typing the vertical row "F5, 5, t, g, v" going to try resoldering...
Thanks,mate i am looking for your pics :pwell,anyone received the PCB are very welcomed to post anything on this thread.Just want to make sure i am not using offline version of GH... ;D
No builds or pics yet but I got mine on Monday! Packaging is great and the PCBs and plates look fantastic. Thanks for a really smooth GB :)
Just started testing mine everything seems to work except my "5" key. It does weird things... in notepad it posts a timestamp plus "tgv". In other programs it causes other random things to happen. I've tried manually setting the key to the number 5 and tried clearing the firmware. Nothing seems to fix it, but I'll keep trying.Try don't touch the PCB and test it.Put it on your desk and use something to cover your tweezers and test it. It has to be insulated to test.If fails again we can replace it for ya.
edit: figured out that it's actually typing the vertical row "F5, 5, t, g, v" going to try resoldering...
I had already soldered in all my switches. I can't seem to fix the issue... I'm terrible at desoldering so if need to be replaced should I send this one back?
I am having a bit of trouble with mine as well. Just built an A.87 with Zilents for my Duck Orion V2 (it's a perfect fit with Orion plate btw). When I first plugged it in, everything worked - all the LEDs lit up and I tested each key. As I was working on the keymap and LED setup, somehow the entire row from Tab through '[' stopped working altogether (oddly, ']' and '\' still worked, which made me think it was related to the firmware as those keys are numbered 82-83 while the rest of the row is 24-35).I think this is a software issue.First don't worry about this.We will help you to firgure it out.
Unable to get those keys working again, I tried to reflash the firmware (filename '18-08-02frimware.Ldn'). But the keyboard stopped responding entirely after that - the firmware appeared to load as the green bar went all the way and the status updates indicated it was uploaded. But the program said "No Connection" and I was unable to do anything, even go into bootloader mode to try to re-upload the firmware. I reset using B+L, which worked, but when I tried to upload the firmware again, I got the same result.
Any ideas? Is this firmware version defective by any chance?
Thanks! It's a gorgeous piece of kit when it works, hopefully I can get it back up and running :)
I am having a bit of trouble with mine as well. Just built an A.87 with Zilents for my Duck Orion V2 (it's a perfect fit with Orion plate btw). When I first plugged it in, everything worked - all the LEDs lit up and I tested each key. As I was working on the keymap and LED setup, somehow the entire row from Tab through '[' stopped working altogether (oddly, ']' and '\' still worked, which made me think it was related to the firmware as those keys are numbered 82-83 while the rest of the row is 24-35).I think this is a software issue.First don't worry about this.We will help you to firgure it out.
Unable to get those keys working again, I tried to reflash the firmware (filename '18-08-02frimware.Ldn'). But the keyboard stopped responding entirely after that - the firmware appeared to load as the green bar went all the way and the status updates indicated it was uploaded. But the program said "No Connection" and I was unable to do anything, even go into bootloader mode to try to re-upload the firmware. I reset using B+L, which worked, but when I tried to upload the firmware again, I got the same result.
Any ideas? Is this firmware version defective by any chance?
Thanks! It's a gorgeous piece of kit when it works, hopefully I can get it back up and running :)
Please let me know what os you are using now,Win7 or Win10? As i remember you have ordered 7PCBs. Can you try another PCB? to see if this is a single pcb problem or it all have problem.
Can you enter bootloader now?Do you using any im software,such as QQ. we usually solve this kind of problem using QQ's remote control by our engineers. If you can download QQ,let me know.
Thanks.
I am having a bit of trouble with mine as well. Just built an A.87 with Zilents for my Duck Orion V2 (it's a perfect fit with Orion plate btw). When I first plugged it in, everything worked - all the LEDs lit up and I tested each key. As I was working on the keymap and LED setup, somehow the entire row from Tab through '[' stopped working altogether (oddly, ']' and '\' still worked, which made me think it was related to the firmware as those keys are numbered 82-83 while the rest of the row is 24-35).I think this is a software issue.First don't worry about this.We will help you to firgure it out.
Unable to get those keys working again, I tried to reflash the firmware (filename '18-08-02frimware.Ldn'). But the keyboard stopped responding entirely after that - the firmware appeared to load as the green bar went all the way and the status updates indicated it was uploaded. But the program said "No Connection" and I was unable to do anything, even go into bootloader mode to try to re-upload the firmware. I reset using B+L, which worked, but when I tried to upload the firmware again, I got the same result.
Any ideas? Is this firmware version defective by any chance?
Thanks! It's a gorgeous piece of kit when it works, hopefully I can get it back up and running :)
Please let me know what os you are using now,Win7 or Win10? As i remember you have ordered 7PCBs. Can you try another PCB? to see if this is a single pcb problem or it all have problem.
Can you enter bootloader now?Do you using any im software,such as QQ. we usually solve this kind of problem using QQ's remote control by our engineers. If you can download QQ,let me know.
Thanks.
I just received mine in the mail today and am looking forward to trying it out. C³—Ears, this is pretty awesome customer service. I really appreciate the way you're responding to comments and helping troubleshoot issues. Makes me feel much better about my purchase.
We have downloaded the newest version of Win10(1803).It appears this is a problem. We will fix it by release new version of firmware.It will take a couple of days,but don't worry we will fix it.
I'm using Win10. I can enter bootloader if I hold B+L while plugging in the USB cable. The problem is just when I try to upload the firmware.
Can download QQ a bit later, will PM.
Thanks!
I just received mine in the mail today and am looking forward to trying it out. C³—Ears, this is pretty awesome customer service. I really appreciate the way you're responding to comments and helping troubleshoot issues. Makes me feel much better about my purchase.
Second this! C³—Ears customer service has been top notch! And, even though I had a small issue with a pcb, 2 others I received are working perfectly and the pcb build quality is amazing. I'd like to also confirm that the pcb fits Moon well.Just something we should do! You guys are so nice. I am really happy to read your words. Makes my day!
I am having a bit of trouble with mine as well. Just built an A.87 with Zilents for my Duck Orion V2 (it's a perfect fit with Orion plate btw). When I first plugged it in, everything worked - all the LEDs lit up and I tested each key. As I was working on the keymap and LED setup, somehow the entire row from Tab through '[' stopped working altogether (oddly, ']' and '\' still worked, which made me think it was related to the firmware as those keys are numbered 82-83 while the rest of the row is 24-35).
Unable to get those keys working again, I tried to reflash the firmware (filename '18-08-02frimware.Ldn'). But the keyboard stopped responding entirely after that - the firmware appeared to load as the green bar went all the way and the status updates indicated it was uploaded. But the program said "No Connection" and I was unable to do anything, even go into bootloader mode to try to re-upload the firmware. I reset using B+L, which worked, but when I tried to upload the firmware again, I got the same result.
Any ideas? Is this firmware version defective by any chance?
Thanks! It's a gorgeous piece of kit when it works, hopefully I can get it back up and running :)
somehow the entire row from Tab through '[' stopped working altogether (oddly, ']' and '\' still worked
Have you tried the lastest version of firmware? This is some bug under windows 10 and fix it. I just tried it and it worked.somehow the entire row from Tab through '[' stopped working altogether (oddly, ']' and '\' still worked
The same keys are not working for me. Also the f-row is similar for me. Picture of keys not working currently, highlighted are not working:
(Attachment Link)
Firmware has been repaired, the following is a new firmware, please download to update.
Have you tried the lastest version of firmware? This is some bug under windows 10 and fix it. I just tried it and it worked.
Notes that you have to upload the layer(file layer15) to have key functions.
somehow the entire row from Tab through '[' stopped working altogether (oddly, ']' and '\' still worked
The same keys are not working for me. Also the f-row is similar for me. Picture of keys not working currently, highlighted are not working:
(Attachment Link)
Have you tried the lastest version of firmware? This is some bug under windows 10 and fix it. I just tried it and it worked.
Notes that you have to upload the layer(file layer15) to have key functions.
Okay, uploading the layer file fixed the Tab through '[' keys. The function row is still not working (Esc - F11).
Also, I can't seem to be able to change the new firmware tool language to English with the command line script. I had to manually change the language file to root of the tool.
Please test whether this firmware solves the problem that command line tools can not be changed to English.
For me, the software update now works under Win10 - thanks! However, Tab through '[' still aren't working even after I uploaded the new firmware. The U2 pins look cleanly soldered.If it's convenient, please weld that pin, maybe it can solve the problem, if it still can't solve, you can contact the ear to replace a PCB.
Please test whether this firmware solves the problem that command line tools can not be changed to English.
Language change works now. I also had to remove all the Chinese characters from the firmware and the layer file name to not have them fail. The Esc through 'F11' keys are still not working.
Language change works now. I also had to remove all the Chinese characters from the firmware and the layer file name to not have them fail. The Esc through 'F11' keys are still not working.
If it's convenient, please weld that pin, maybe it can solve the problem, if it still can't solve, you can contact the ear to replace a PCB.
Language change works now. I also had to remove all the Chinese characters from the firmware and the layer file name to not have them fail. The Esc through 'F11' keys are still not working.
If it's convenient, please weld that pin, maybe it can solve the problem, if it still can't solve, you can contact the ear to replace a PCB.It must be a different pin for the function row (Esc through 'F11'), right? If so, then what pin is it?Sorry, I just noticed your picture from earlier.
Edit: Okay, I just pressed the third pin downward with a small tool and the whole row started working now. The solder joint must be very weak. It's working for now but I should probably re-solder it to be safe.
Language change works now. I also had to remove all the Chinese characters from the firmware and the layer file name to not have them fail. The Esc through 'F11' keys are still not working.
If it's convenient, please weld that pin, maybe it can solve the problem, if it still can't solve, you can contact the ear to replace a PCB.It must be a different pin for the function row (Esc through 'F11'), right? If so, then what pin is it?Sorry, I just noticed your picture from earlier.
Edit: Okay, I just pressed the third pin downward with a small tool and the whole row started working now. The solder joint must be very weak. It's working for now but I should probably re-solder it to be safe.
Hi language change to english is still not working for me.replace the language file. Here's English Version.
Thanks, it works nowHi language change to english is still not working for me.replace the language file. Here's English Version.
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Is it possible to convert this PCB over to QMK?Sorry no
BTW,i would be really appreciate if anyone tell me if this pcb fit in other custom keyboards...i want to try to make another run later this year.
I have both size type c made for my future gb. But if you just buy type c pcb,can it fit in your case? I thought most of the case out there dont fit in type cBTW,i would be really appreciate if anyone tell me if this pcb fit in other custom keyboards...i want to try to make another run later this year.
Would be great to have another round of these! USB-C maybe?
well after a couple days of use, my c3 pcb just randomly died. Windows is giving me the USB not recognized error... not sure if unlucky or bad QC. I removed all my stabilizer screws as well but that wasnt the problemWell, try to press B+L when you connect the PCB and see if it can enter bootloader,and if you can just upload the firmware again. If can't let me know,i will replace it for you. You know my QQ anyway,find me there.
well after a couple days of use, my c3 pcb just randomly died. Windows is giving me the USB not recognized error... not sure if unlucky or bad QC. I removed all my stabilizer screws as well but that wasnt the problemWell, try to press B+L when you connect the PCB and see if it can enter bootloader,and if you can just upload the firmware again. If can't let me know,i will replace it for you. You know my QQ anyway,find me there.
Thanks for the kind word,sir. It's just something we should do. It's normal to have issues,just need to fix them when that happens.Plus,this wont be the only round for the PCBs and i am trying to find out all the problems and improve them.Hopefully we can be a major maker in this community one day. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
This kind of support makes me wanna buy ten of these pcbs. Great work!
I'm keen for one of these. I'd love to test if it fits into my MIR.what is MIR? also we have 2 kinds of size. Should fit a lot of borads.
Ears, if i could suggest things for a new run it would be to modify your b.87 to be south spacebar stabs and change the footprint a little along the bottom like this: https://i.imgur.com/SuO2B9V.jpgThank you for your feedback,i really need this information. I will change the spacebar stabs next time. Let me make some samples to figure out what's the best options.
Or try the new pear shaped holes some guys are using now (h87a pcb) Very very few plates use north stabs anymore.
see tkl pcb compat list here (i think that i showed you this before but its much better now): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GpM--fKeDw_tIDZj4m2jmbMavSyXeOu3QHzfTJwz-IM
other then the north stab thing this b.87 pcb is pretty good! i will put one in keycult no.1 next week
Any extras or another buy soon?No extras left and working on the next buy now.
Any chance for QMK in R2?Sorry，no plan for QMK anytime soon.
60% when :eyes:Around 2 months....We are working that and first sample is made.We still need to working on software and test for durability.
Are you going to do 60% next or round 2 80%?
Also, any updates on the keyboard kit you mentioned earlier? I would love to buy an all acrylic or all polycarbonate board for the full RGB experience with your pcb :)). Something like the TGR A17 or the GON Acrylic TKL or the acrylic Unicorn.
Hello, I have a C3 PCB and I turned off the RGB backlight (not the underglow) and I can't seem to turn it back on, please help!Can you try to turn it on using our software? please wait a little bit when you turn it to another effect.
I got it working! I just had to bind LED controls to a switch and it turned back on, thanks!Good to know this. I never had that issue before. Lol :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
How do I get to Layer 1 from Layer 0? I tried to assign trigger Layer 1 and it doesn't seem to do anything.First enable FN key then set a FN key to each layer. then use FN to use another layer
Anyone know how to turn a led off? Is it all or nothing? I'd like to turn off leds that are under stabilizers, for example.
Anyone know how to turn a led off? Is it all or nothing? I'd like to turn off leds that are under stabilizers, for example.
You got to change that using our software. What's version of your PCB? I can send it to you
It's version 1. Did you already do a GB for version 2?No, probably sell them in stock.
Download it here:http://www.c3equalz.com/col.jsp?id=107Anyone know how to turn a led off? Is it all or nothing? I'd like to turn off leds that are under stabilizers, for example.
You got to change that using our software. What's version of your PCB? I can send it to you
I would like a copy of that firmware too if possible
I posted on Discord but posting here as well since I'm desparate:
Hey friends, I know it's a dumb question but how do I connect the c3 ldn pcb to the c3 software?
I tried the B + L while plugging it in, it seemed that it was on flash mode but the software doesn't seem to recognize it
I'm a noob in programming....uinfortunately
A little help would be very much appreciated.
oh yes, forgot to mention the pcb that I have: LDN 87KEY RGB PCB (B87). Hardware Version: 1.0.
Thanks so much!