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Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2018/07/23)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 05:41:50
This group buy is for a service that is being put on Internationally on by me (Prof), MiMiC, SmallFry, and WhiteFireDragon. We are offering 3 different tiers of assembly Basic Assembly, Spring or Stem Swap, and Lubed Switches. Also available additionally will be leds and resistors, switches, stabilizers, cases, and plates to complete your phantom. These items are also available separately from the assembly service.

I will not be offering PCBs in this GB because you can already pick them up in the Phantom PCB Round 2 Group Buy (http://tinyurl.com/cnud7zs) when you order please specify to have it sent to me if you want one of us to build it. I will no longer be offering Plates in this GB because WFD would like to offer them in a separate GB available here (http://tinyurl.com/bzgu54v). Please select to have your plate shipped to me if your have me do assembly or just ordering parts from me.
Our assembly services are guaranteed, which means that your keyboard will not leave or be shipped until it is fully tested and working.

This GB is closed. Please check you order using this (http://tinyurl.com/afxd5o8).




Quote from: Assembly

Basic Assembly: $35 per phantom

Spring or Stem Swap & Assembly: $40  per phantom

Lubed Switches & Assembly: $65  per phantom




Quote from: Assembly Options

Desoldering of PLU-87 switches: $5 per PLU-87

Modifying of PLU-87 case to fit a PROF layout or numpad layout: $10 per PLU-87

Cherry Stabilizer Mod: $0 (free) per phantom

Spacebar and/or Esc Spring Swap: $0 (free) per phantom
Code: [Select]
$0.00 - Black Spring
$0.00 - Clear Spring




Quote from:  Parts

Cases: price per keyboard model below
Code: [Select]
$80.00 - Black PLU-87 with Black Cherry MX Switches
$80.00 - Black PLU-87 with Blue Cherry MX Switches
$80.00 - Black PLU-87 with Brown Cherry MX Switches
$80.00 - Black PLU-87 with Red Cherry MX Switches
$80.00 - White PLU-87 with Black Cherry MX Switches
$80.00 - White PLU-87 with Blue Cherry MX Switches
$80.00 - White PLU-87 with Brown Cherry MX Switches
$80.00 - White PLU-87 with Red Cherry MX Switches
$85.00 - Pink PLU-87 with Black Cherry MX Switches
$85.00 - Pink PLU-87 with Blue Cherry MX Switches
$85.00 - Pink PLU-87 with Brown Cherry MX Switches
$85.00 - Pink PLU-87 with Red Cherry MX Switches

Cherry MX Plate Mount Switches: price per switch below
Code: [Select]

$0.60 - MXBLACK     (MX1A-11NN) - BACKORDERED
$0.60 - MXBLUE     (MX1A-E1NN)
$0.60 - MXBROWN     (MX1A-G1NN)
$0.60 - MXRED     (MX1A-L1NN)
$0.60 - MXCLEAR     (MX1A-C1NN) - BACKORDERED
$0.85 - MXGREEN     (MX1A-F1NN)
$0.65 - MXWHITE     (MX1A-A1NN) - BACKORDERED
$0.85 - MXGREY     (MX1A-D1NN)
$0.85 - MXDARKGREY     (MX1A-21NN)
$4.25 - MXLOCK     (MX1A-31NN) - BACKORDERED

LED and Resistor Swap Kit: available colors below (2 leds and 2 resistors included)
Code: [Select]
$2.00 - Blue
$2.00 - Green
$2.00 - Orange
$2.00 - Red
$2.00 - Yellow

Plate Mount Stabilizers: available styles below (will outfit a standard TKL keyboard, 1-6.25x or 7x stabilizer and 4-2x stabilizers)
Code: [Select]
$8.00 - Cherry 6.25x
$8.00 - Cherry 7x
$8.00 - Costar 6.25x




Quote from: Payment & Shipping


Payment: Invoices will be sent out to your paypal email once the GB closes. You will have 1 week to pay the invoice

Shipping: Shipping will be quoted and invoiced once your order is completed, packaged, and ready to ship because of the infinitely different amount of items that can be ordered. You items WILL NOT SHIP until you pay the invoice for the shipping.






**note: the spring or stem swap and lubed switches both include basic assembly**
**note: in order to order switches we need to order at least 1000 switches total**
**note: please dont ask about other color switches as we would need an order of 800 or larger for that specific switch in order to get it**
**note: all extra/leftover parts that your ordered will be sent to you with your Phantom unless specified**
**note: you can harvest the case, switches, and stabilizers for your phantom from the PLU-87 (full keyboard not just replacement case)**
**note: if your looking for a cable contact MiMiC (http://tinyurl.com/bht869j) or order a cable directly through his thread (http://tinyurl.com/bw6qpn8).**
**note: please order a few extra switches not the exact amount needed for the board just in case a few of them end up being bad.**
**note: plates are designed by WFD (http://tinyurl.com/crus5ch)**
**note: you can still order BACKORDERED switches but it will be ~2 months until I receive them**
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 05:42:09
Guys I really would appreciate it if you stopped some of these more personal posts.

Additionally since all of you seem to have major problems with your orders please pm or email me about this. I dont seem to get many of either of these despite all the issues every one is haveing. Please try to be realistic with your requests when contacting me about your order.

For those of you with no stake in the groupbuy, the participants of this groupbuy seem to be handeling this  themselves perfectly fine.

I know at this point many of you will just shrug this off but I fully intend on fixing this GB to the best of my current means and as reasonably quick as possible. Please be on the lookout for pm's and email's from me in the coming days as I try to resolve this and start shipping what I do have on hand.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 05:45:13
reserved
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: Leewei on Thu, 20 December 2012, 15:34:04
Gogo! I'm in =D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: boost on Thu, 20 December 2012, 15:35:16
Nice pricing on the soldering.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 15:38:21
Phantom Plate can swap out switches right?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: boost on Thu, 20 December 2012, 15:39:02
Phantom Plate can swap out switches right?

Yes it can
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 15:40:17
Cool beans.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: nebo on Thu, 20 December 2012, 15:48:10
Will there be an option for costar vs cherry stabilizers or are you only doing cherry? Maybe I just have bad luck, or I only hit the spacebar with one hand, but every time I have a board with cherry stabilizers the spacebar doesn't stay down.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 15:50:24
You mean it doesn't actuate?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: nebo on Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:06:15
You mean it doesn't actuate?
More a problem with the keys staying attached to the stems. Like I said, I might of just had bad luck. Only used two boards with two different spacebars (both leopold) that had cherry stabilizers.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:06:45
Will there be an option for costar vs cherry stabilizers or are you only doing cherry? Maybe I just have bad luck, or I only hit the spacebar with one hand, but every time I have a board with cherry stabilizers the spacebar doesn't stay down.
Im confused with statement greatly sorry
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:14:53
Prof, do you need the plate files? You can get them here: http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/phantom-custom-keyboard-group-buy-closed-t1411-180.html

2nd post on that page, by litster.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 16:58:32
Prof, do you need the plate files? You can get them here: http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/phantom-custom-keyboard-group-buy-closed-t1411-180.html

2nd post on that page, by litster.
I have them i got them from bpiphany but the older original ones arnt opening up properly for me might be a scaling issue or possibly version incompatibility or something because the newer ones that I got done work fine.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 20 December 2012, 17:35:27
Will there be an option for costar vs cherry stabilizers or are you only doing cherry? Maybe I just have bad luck, or I only hit the spacebar with one hand, but every time I have a board with cherry stabilizers the spacebar doesn't stay down.
Im confused with statement greatly sorry

He just wants costar stabilizers as an option.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 20 December 2012, 17:40:22
Costar stabilizers are available from WASDkeyboards.com, so I don't see why that wouldn't be an option.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: Amarok on Thu, 20 December 2012, 18:03:09
Are you going to be running the group buy for parts as kind of an "all or nothing" service, or can we pick and choose which parts we need to purchase through the buy?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 December 2012, 18:18:20
I saw something on the phantom wiki about different size stabalizers? plugs mounts?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 20 December 2012, 18:18:35
Wheeee! Should be some fun:D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Assembly Service
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 19:37:07
Will there be an option for costar vs cherry stabilizers or are you only doing cherry? Maybe I just have bad luck, or I only hit the spacebar with one hand, but every time I have a board with cherry stabilizers the spacebar doesn't stay down.
Im confused with statement greatly sorry


He just wants costar stabilizers as an option.
I can make coastar as an option for 6.25x space only right now. O and im still looking for someone who can bend the 6.25 and 7x cherry spacebar wires
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 20 December 2012, 19:56:17
Updated to be able to be parts only also. Assembly will just be a check box on the form once its up.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: daerid on Fri, 21 December 2012, 01:03:27
I'm in for parts. I'd like to build it myself :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 21 December 2012, 01:51:56
I ordered two PCB's, I wouldn't mind having you put one of them together. 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 02:28:33
I ordered two PCB's, I wouldn't mind having you put one of them together. 
sounds good please let bavman know
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: mistakemistake on Fri, 21 December 2012, 02:48:01
WOOHOO
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: akuJIWA on Fri, 21 December 2012, 03:00:23
Updated to be able to be parts only also. Assembly will just be a check box on the form once its up.

Thank you sir!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: Oproer on Fri, 21 December 2012, 03:31:22
I would really like to use your services for this but how does the communication go? Do I just tell Bavman to send the PCB to you instead of to myself?  He has your address and everything?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: korne on Fri, 21 December 2012, 03:50:20
I will need some parts like 7x stabs and maybe 1 or 2 cases...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 04:15:12
custom firmware has been removed from the GB Tranquilite will possibly be writing up a tutorial on how to do this though.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 04:16:50
I would really like to use your services for this but how does the communication go? Do I just tell Bavman to send the PCB to you instead of to myself?  He has your address and everything?
yes let bavman know if youve already order pcbs otherwise there should now be a option in the form to have it sent directly to me.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 04:17:07
Updated to be able to be parts only also. Assembly will just be a check box on the form once its up.

Thank you sir!
no problem
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 21 December 2012, 04:17:46
Can firmware be changed? I would have no idea what i want....
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 04:19:18
Can firmware be changed? I would have no idea what i want....
yes you can make they keyboard do basically what ever you want.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 21 December 2012, 04:30:25
Wod you say it is difficult?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 04:31:54
Wod you say it is difficult?
I dont know yet havnt had to do it but hopefully a tutorial will be posted eventually showing how to do it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: nebo on Fri, 21 December 2012, 10:09:03
Flashing firmware should be simple, plug in USB and flash like ROMs if you've ever done that for a mobo or video card.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 21 December 2012, 10:28:01
Flashing is simple, the issue is modifying the keymaps, then compiling the result and then flashing that to the keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: nebo on Fri, 21 December 2012, 10:43:19
Keypaps are just the layout array correct? I think most people should be able to figure that out quick enough. If not, I can number each key out to where it goes in said array but I think I saw a GUI for it somewhere on these forums.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 21 December 2012, 10:44:01
Posted by the man above your post, himself;)
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 13:02:22
Posted by the man above your post, himself;)
umm what?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: alaricljs on Fri, 21 December 2012, 14:14:36
SF is referring to the AHK GUI I wrote for bpiphany's Phantom firmware :)

Of course that won't help you with hasu's firmware.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: daerid on Fri, 21 December 2012, 17:10:58
Just to clarify, you can provide all the parts except for the case, right?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 21 December 2012, 22:45:19
Just to clarify, you can provide all the parts except for the case, right?
there will be some of of case option also though not anything custom.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 22 December 2012, 02:39:47
Lister had a nice case, was that custom?
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 03:02:24
Lister had a nice case, was that custom?
yes he did and yes it was custom he designed it. Problem is someone bought one and sent it to mkc and he coppied it so lister is not making any more.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 22 December 2012, 03:10:32
Thats sad. I really liked his.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: baldgye on Sat, 22 December 2012, 07:41:04
if and when I can afford/get a phantom I'll 100% have to use your service, so its good to have it out there :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 16:11:27
pricing for modded switches added
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 16:14:36
added pricing for lubed switches
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 16:20:39
Cherry MX switches added to the GB
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 16:24:10
clarifications added about the modded and lubed switch services that they include the basic assembly service
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 22 December 2012, 16:32:13
I'm assuming we would have to provide springs if we wanted something like ergo-clears or clears with gold springs?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 16:35:27
I'm assuming we would have to provide springs if we wanted something like ergo-clears or clears with gold springs?
yes was just going to write something up about that. If you want ergo clears you can buy clears and red/brown/blues or if you want to use Custom Korean springs you can provide them. Also we will sticker your switches when lubing them but can not provide switch sticker at this time sorry.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: nebo on Sat, 22 December 2012, 16:37:19
I've never typed on lubed switches, is there really that much of a difference or is it just to help if there is an issue with the sticking at activation point (like some ergo clears have for example)?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 16:49:36
noted that we will work on international boards
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 22 December 2012, 16:51:21
I've never typed on lubed switches, is there really that much of a difference or is it just to help if there is an issue with the sticking at activation point (like some ergo clears have for example)?
yes there is a big diference when you lube enough and in the correct places. I for one have never had that problem with ergo clears, yes that may come up just a tad slower than a normal clear but ive never had them stick but i assume it would if yo ufor some reason had that problem.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: Amarok on Sat, 22 December 2012, 20:15:09
Is the case for the PLU-87 actually available to buy separately or is the plan to buy the keyboard and harvest the case?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 23 December 2012, 02:12:34
Is the case for the PLU-87 actually available to buy separately or is the plan to buy the keyboard and harvest the case?
no not separately, it will be harvested for the case and switches and by doing that pays for it self in the end.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 23 December 2012, 05:00:26
Some info updated in the OP.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: longweight on Sun, 23 December 2012, 05:02:42
What weight springs do clears use?
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 23 December 2012, 05:07:44
What weight springs do clears use?
sorries, whish i knew of hand...
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 23 December 2012, 09:08:29
What weight springs do clears use?
sorries, whish i knew of hand...

Using the korean method of weighing springs, I'm getting clear springs weigh ~81g
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services
Post by: nebo on Sun, 23 December 2012, 10:15:55
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Clear
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 03:37:00
updated the OP with info about ordering PCBs
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 03:52:55
updated the OP with info about the cases i will be offering.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 18:18:59
changed info in the OP stating I wouldnt have plates which is incorrect to not having PCBs. Sorry about the screw up.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 24 December 2012, 20:47:43
Prof,

How much experience do you have?

Are you guaranteeing your work?  I'm just curious because I'm planning on sending you two of my PCB's for full assembly. 

Can I order switches dirrectly through you or do I have to supply my own?  Is every cherry switch created equal?  for instance are the switches on crapy chineese boards the exact same on a Filco?
Same question for Plates, cases, stabalizers, usb cables, can I get everything from you?

Thanks Prof
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: frostwoozle on Mon, 24 December 2012, 21:21:36
Prof,

How much experience do you have?

Are you guaranteeing your work?  I'm just curious because I'm planning on sending you two of my PCB's for full assembly.

Personally I wouldn't let him near any of my PCBs. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37065.0)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 24 December 2012, 21:35:02
Nooby here!

Im looking to build my own phantom.

Im not looking for assembly or anything like that but i cant seem to find anywhere that will be selling mounting plates.

Im a bit confused by the OP, will mounting plates be offered in a separate GB? Is it possible to just purchase a mounting plate, and maybe switches (seems like good prices for them) aswell through this?

Again, not looking for assembly services, just parts.

This will be my first build, and look forward to it being a fun project for myself. Im thinking of using the toxic set for it aswell.

Thanks alot, please tell me if im wrong or confused by something. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 21:54:44
Prof,

How much experience do you have?

Are you guaranteeing your work?  I'm just curious because I'm planning on sending you two of my PCB's for full assembly. 

Can I order switches dirrectly through you or do I have to supply my own?  Is every cherry switch created equal?  for instance are the switches on crapy chineese boards the exact same on a Filco?
Same question for Plates, cases, stabalizers, usb cables, can I get everything from you?

Thanks Prof

I have a fair bit of experience i would say. i have been soldering since i was younger. I got a FX-888 last year for christmas. Since then i have built 4 Phantoms and 2 KMACs and rebuilt a KPAD among numerous other things that needed to be fixed.

Yes everything is tested after being soldered and will be 100% working before lit leaves.

Yes you can order switches though this GB I already have pricing up for those. Yes they are the exact same switches that is why I have noted that you can use the switches from the PLUs not just the case.

Yes you will be able to buy everything from me I am working on tracking everything down and getting prices, though it is hard right now because of the holidays.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Leewei on Mon, 24 December 2012, 21:59:00
Hey Prof, I want to wait for whatever casing is currently being designed (boost, I saw some other threads working on it too). Can you assemble it and then hold onto it until I find a case?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:01:41
Guarente added to the OP
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:03:32
Prof,

How much experience do you have?

Are you guaranteeing your work?  I'm just curious because I'm planning on sending you two of my PCB's for full assembly.

Personally I wouldn't let him near any of my PCBs. (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=37065.0)

Well, thanks for letting us all know what you personally would or would not do. I'm sure we were all wondering.

And thank you as well for cluttering up this established member's thread with your comment.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:05:01
the ability to order parts separately from the assembly service has been clarified in the OP.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:05:43
Well then! JDCarpe SMASH! I'm not sure why he wouldn't let him near his PCB, but to each their own and to all a Merry CHRISTMAS!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:13:47
Nooby here!

Im looking to build my own phantom.

Im not looking for assembly or anything like that but i cant seem to find anywhere that will be selling mounting plates.

Im a bit confused by the OP, will mounting plates be offered in a separate GB? Is it possible to just purchase a mounting plate, and maybe switches (seems like good prices for them) aswell through this?

Again, not looking for assembly services, just parts.

This will be my first build, and look forward to it being a fun project for myself. Im thinking of using the toxic set for it aswell.

Thanks alot, please tell me if im wrong or confused by something. :)
yes you can order all of the parts separately and assemble your keyboard your self.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:22:55
Hey Prof, I want to wait for whatever casing is currently being designed (boost, I saw some other threads working on it too). Can you assemble it and then hold onto it until I find a case?
sure that can be done

do you have links to the other threads where there working on cases for the phantoms because I would be glad to include them in this GB if they are finished in time.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:27:35
-snip-
yes you can order all of the parts separately and assemble your keyboard your self.

Thanks, I appreciate the response.

Have a good holiday :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Leewei on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:32:00
There is boost who is working on a custom case.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38360.0 - smallfry and salisen who are trying to get cad files put up for a custom case that would fit a filco/phantom
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=28436.240 - batmann says swede will be back in business soon

=D none of these are complete but I will keep following up on it and hopefully they might come up with a good case in due time.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:41:02
price for desoldering a PLU added
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:42:30
price for doing led swap added
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Leewei on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:45:43
Is it possible to mod mx clears to ergo clears? and how much extra would that be?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 22:48:57
Is it possible to mod mx clears to ergo clears? and how much extra would that be?
yes it is you would have to get the stem/spring swap service and then either provide spring or buy switches that have your required springs.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 23:06:26
payment and shipping info added to the OP
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: frostwoozle on Mon, 24 December 2012, 23:09:38
Well, thanks for letting us all know what you personally would or would not do. I'm sure we were all wondering.

And thank you as well for cluttering up this established member's thread with your comment.

Pointing to the fantastic job he did on that KMAC doesn't back up my link text if interpreted literally. Seems to me you're a wee bit trigger happy.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 23:10:33
added a end date to the group buy, you will have 1 week after the PCB group buy closes to order everything you need/want.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: gliy on Mon, 24 December 2012, 23:16:39
Can you post a picture of the case?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 23:20:52
Well, thanks for letting us all know what you personally would or would not do. I'm sure we were all wondering.

And thank you as well for cluttering up this established member's thread with your comment.

Pointing to the fantastic job he did on that KMAC doesn't back up my link text if interpreted literally. Seems to me you're a wee bit trigger happy.
Thanks for the props, though next time maybe make it a wee bit more obvious because sadly sarcasm does not have it own font :(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 23:29:16
Can you post a picture of the case?
I dont have any but I did find a review on DT http://tinyurl.com/c5b9w6o

I can also post some pics of my finished phantoms that use a PLU-87 case but they have been modified to fit my prefered Phantom layout.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 23:35:12
Available colors for led swap added to OP.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 24 December 2012, 23:51:51
Thanks. Phantom is defaulting to white LEDs correct? Also, is it okay to have my PCB from the BG shipped to you?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 24 December 2012, 23:54:06
Thanks. Phantom is defaulting to white LEDs correct? Also, is it okay to have my PCB from the BG shipped to you?
yes it is but we can swap the led and the proper matching resistor for you. yes that is actually what i ask you to do when filling out the form in the PCB GB thread.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Amarok on Tue, 25 December 2012, 00:53:14
Couple of questions. I am probably going to get clear switches, can I still pay to have you desolder blue switches from the plu87 board and have you send those back with the finished board? I've never tried clears before so I'm not sure if I'll keep those or replace the springs later to make ergo clears.

Second, does the plu87 board come with cherry or costar stabilizer?

Edit: just saw the note in the op that said extra plu87 parts get shipped back , so disregard the first question lol
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 25 December 2012, 01:03:36
Couple of questions. I am probably going to get clear switches, can I still pay to have you desolder blue switches from the plu87 board and have you send those back with the finished board? I've never tried clears before so I'm not sure if I'll keep those or replace the springs later to make ergo clears.

Second, does the plu87 board come with cherry or costar stabilizer?

Edit: just saw the note in the op that said extra plu87 parts get shipped back , so disregard the first question lol

I can desolder the blues for you and if you went for the Stem/spring swap + assembly service I could make those into ergo clears right away for you

yes it comes with costar esk stabilizers

its cool but as a note we wouldnt desolder the switches unless you checked the box.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 25 December 2012, 01:08:28
Well, thanks for letting us all know what you personally would or would not do. I'm sure we were all wondering.

And thank you as well for cluttering up this established member's thread with your comment.

Pointing to the fantastic job he did on that KMAC doesn't back up my link text if interpreted literally. Seems to me you're a wee bit trigger happy.
Thanks for the props, though next time maybe make it a wee bit more obvious because sadly sarcasm does not have it own font :(

Just wanted to say, us Canadians tend to use sarcasm in text format quite often. Universally it fails quite often, but we get it up in this heartless frozen north :D

I'm just glad you didn't get my KMAC LE to build....that plate...ugh.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 25 December 2012, 01:11:36
Well, thanks for letting us all know what you personally would or would not do. I'm sure we were all wondering.

And thank you as well for cluttering up this established member's thread with your comment.

Pointing to the fantastic job he did on that KMAC doesn't back up my link text if interpreted literally. Seems to me you're a wee bit trigger happy.
Thanks for the props, though next time maybe make it a wee bit more obvious because sadly sarcasm does not have it own font :(

Just wanted to say, us Canadians tend to use sarcasm in text format quite often. Universally it fails quite often, but we get it up in this heartless frozen north :D

I'm just glad you didn't get my KMAC LE to build....that plate...ugh.
yea what a mess. did you get a new one yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 25 December 2012, 01:14:37
Well, thanks for letting us all know what you personally would or would not do. I'm sure we were all wondering.

And thank you as well for cluttering up this established member's thread with your comment.

Pointing to the fantastic job he did on that KMAC doesn't back up my link text if interpreted literally. Seems to me you're a wee bit trigger happy.
Thanks for the props, though next time maybe make it a wee bit more obvious because sadly sarcasm does not have it own font :(

Just wanted to say, us Canadians tend to use sarcasm in text format quite often. Universally it fails quite often, but we get it up in this heartless frozen north :D

I'm just glad you didn't get my KMAC LE to build....that plate...ugh.
yea what a mess. did you get a new one yet?

One is in the works, just have to wait to get it here in Canada. Which will take awhile for shipping this time of year. In the meantime, I'm really considering getting SMD diodes instead of thru-hole...although I did mod all those switches already.....
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Leewei on Tue, 25 December 2012, 01:28:46
Halverson, how did you get your hands on a kmac?!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 25 December 2012, 01:35:44
Halverson, how did you get your hands on a kmac?!

Don't mean to derail this thread, but I got mine the same time as theProf, moonshake and acetrak all got there's. KMAC LE from Sherryton. I have a feeling he may have some more goodies available once he gets his on-line store up and running.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Leewei on Tue, 25 December 2012, 01:37:21
Ohh okay, I saw there was a recent kmac groupbuy a couple months ago (October). Thought it might be from that =/ Sounds good, can't wait to see what Sherryton is up to.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 25 December 2012, 02:19:19
Well, thanks for letting us all know what you personally would or would not do. I'm sure we were all wondering.

And thank you as well for cluttering up this established member's thread with your comment.

Pointing to the fantastic job he did on that KMAC doesn't back up my link text if interpreted literally. Seems to me you're a wee bit trigger happy.
Thanks for the props, though next time maybe make it a wee bit more obvious because sadly sarcasm does not have it own font :(

Just wanted to say, us Canadians tend to use sarcasm in text format quite often. Universally it fails quite often, but we get it up in this heartless frozen north :D

I'm just glad you didn't get my KMAC LE to build....that plate...ugh.
yea what a mess. did you get a new one yet?

One is in the works, just have to wait to get it here in Canada. Which will take awhile for shipping this time of year. In the meantime, I'm really considering getting SMD diodes instead of thru-hole...although I did mod all those switches already.....
I can give you the mouser number if you need it for the SMD diodes.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 25 December 2012, 02:20:33
^Yea lemme know what it is, I'll write it down if I decide to order them.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 25 December 2012, 02:35:20
^Yea lemme know what it is, I'll write it down if I decide to order them.
here ye go http://tinyurl.com/ctc6fjw
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Halverson on Tue, 25 December 2012, 02:38:04
^Yea lemme know what it is, I'll write it down if I decide to order them.
here ye go http://tinyurl.com/ctc6fjw

Bookmark added! Cheers mang
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 25 December 2012, 16:30:47
Will plu-87 work with 7-bit layout?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: baldgye on Tue, 25 December 2012, 17:00:20
Hey given the close date I think I'm going to have to have my PCB sent to you guys for building it up.. but I'm still not 100% sure on what switches I want to use on it... when do you need to know all the details on what we want 'building' ??
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Batmann on Tue, 25 December 2012, 17:25:38
5$ for harvesting switches on a PLU, this is cheap! I spent almost 4 hours desoldering my poker (with a crappy iron and a cheap pump but still!)
Very nice prices, you guys rock
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 25 December 2012, 17:33:03
Holy cow Batmann! Desoldering my entire Leopold and resoldering it back together after I installed different springs (ergo clears) took me less than 4 hours.
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Batmann on Tue, 25 December 2012, 17:46:33
Yeah i know this is very slow!
I use a 30W iron with a cheap pump and i often have to add flux because i don't always manage to remove all the solder on the first attempt
This is painfull!
Lubing and changing stems or spring is piece of cake with Beast tools
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 25 December 2012, 18:51:39
Will plu-87 work with 7-bit layout?
Yes I will have to modify the PLU case ill add that to the op.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: akuJIWA on Tue, 25 December 2012, 21:02:02
How do you sign up actually?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: gameaholic on Wed, 26 December 2012, 02:12:16
I'm in.  I have some vintage blacks that I would like to go into this.  I would like to pair them with 55g Korean Springs (once I can find those).  I'd also like them lubed.  What lube will you guys be using? 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: zyth3x on Wed, 26 December 2012, 03:33:49
Interested in some Clear switches, will you ship to Australia?
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 26 December 2012, 13:37:24
How do you sign up actually?
there will be a form as soon as i have acquired pricing for everything.
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 26 December 2012, 13:38:05
I'm in.  I have some vintage blacks that I would like to go into this.  I would like to pair them with 55g Korean Springs (once I can find those).  I'd also like them lubed.  What lube will you guys be using?
sounds fine with me just remember to select the corrent service when you fill out the form.
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 26 December 2012, 13:38:27
Interested in some Clear switches, will you ship to Australia?
yes this GB is international.
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: samwisekoi on Wed, 26 December 2012, 13:53:51
sounds fine with me just remember to select the corrent service when you fill out the form.

Am I losing my mind, or is there no form URL in this thread?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: korne on Wed, 26 December 2012, 13:55:17
I wan't some 7x stab
Title: Re: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 26 December 2012, 13:55:58
sounds fine with me just remember to select the corrent service when you fill out the form.

Am I losing my mind, or is there no form URL in this thread?

 - Ron | samwisekoi
no form url yet as im still missing pricing on some items.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 26 December 2012, 14:18:58
i'm down for parts: PLU-87 disassembled and the plate (which i'm guessing is related to the interest check)

ill fill out the form when it becomes available  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 December 2012, 02:41:49
Trying to track down the remaining parts but i may not get a quote on the plates until after new years (which is after the GB for the PCBs ends) :( it really depends on home quick people get back to me.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 December 2012, 07:13:39
updated some content in the OP and fixed some formatting
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 December 2012, 07:26:04
added pricing for costar stabilizers
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: baldgye on Thu, 27 December 2012, 07:28:16
what diffrence does lube make to the switches??
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 December 2012, 07:37:55
what diffrence does lube make to the switches??
makes them buttery smooth in my experience
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 December 2012, 07:42:28
add the Assembly option of modded cherry stabilizers for FREE!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 December 2012, 07:49:21
clarified what would happen to any extra or leftover parts for your phantom in the OP
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: inlikeflynn on Thu, 27 December 2012, 10:01:55
looks like you can also get other color cased PLU's from taobao
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.80.CWdJTq&scm=1007.152.0.0&id=10039960685&pvid=ff229498-7608-4196-9719-459726091f29&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 28 December 2012, 01:14:26
looks like you can also get other color cased PLU's from taobao
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.80.CWdJTq&scm=1007.152.0.0&id=10039960685&pvid=ff229498-7608-4196-9719-459726091f29&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=

ill look into those. Im already looking into the pink ones as well
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 28 December 2012, 04:34:02
Pink PLU-87 added as an option for a case and switch source
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 28 December 2012, 15:08:31
If i want to buy switches and stabilizer do I just post it or via pm ? btw a 87 keys keyboard need how many set of stabilizer? 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 29 December 2012, 05:42:03
If i want to buy switches and stabilizer do I just post it or via pm ? btw a 87 keys keyboard need how many set of stabilizer? 
there will be a form up once I have pricing for everything, please use that to order.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 29 December 2012, 05:43:56
Clarified about how to order and when the order form will be up in the OP.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 29 December 2012, 06:39:17
corrected the price of the Pink PLU-87
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: takaki on Sat, 29 December 2012, 07:39:07
I just tried to desolder 87 blue keys today, you only charging $5 for it ? wow.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 29 December 2012, 09:36:25
I just tried to desolder 87 blue keys today, you only charging $5 for it ? wow.
Yes to desolder the PLU-87's its only $5 if you wish to use those switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 29 December 2012, 10:15:24
looks like you can also get other color cased PLU's from taobao
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.80.CWdJTq&scm=1007.152.0.0&id=10039960685&pvid=ff229498-7608-4196-9719-459726091f29&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=

ill look into those. Im already looking into the pink ones as well

Profosist -- thank you for doing all this work.

If it's not too much trouble, I'd be very interested in a red PLU-87.  :-*
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: takaki on Sat, 29 December 2012, 10:28:16
I would seriously prefer to solder than to desolder something.
Just commenting on you rates :) I would prefer to assemble the phantom myself and use something other than PLU87 casing.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 29 December 2012, 10:33:57
looks like you can also get other color cased PLU's from taobao
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.80.CWdJTq&scm=1007.152.0.0&id=10039960685&pvid=ff229498-7608-4196-9719-459726091f29&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=

ill look into those. Im already looking into the pink ones as well

Profosist -- thank you for doing all this work.

If it's not too much trouble, I'd be very interested in a red PLU-87.  :-*
yea im working on those but since everyone is on holiday its takes a while for responses.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 29 December 2012, 10:34:26
I would seriously prefer to solder than to desolder something.
Just commenting on you rates :) I would prefer to assemble the phantom myself and use something other than PLU87 casing.

Thats fine you will be able to just order parts from this GB as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: takaki on Sat, 29 December 2012, 15:45:20
I may be interested in getting my switches from you ! are you going to order or you already have stocks ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 29 December 2012, 18:41:31
Is LED resistor swap for the top right LED?

Is Phantom able to add LED onto the switches?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: takaki on Sun, 30 December 2012, 02:55:44
Looking at the PCB design, I don't think you can add LED to every switch on the keyboard, there are only some keys with holes for the LED.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Oproer on Sun, 30 December 2012, 06:10:14
Are there any other cases I could use with this PCB? The PLU case is only meh it seems, and it doesn't seem to allow for a winkeyless layout..
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 30 December 2012, 08:28:17
The Phantom PCB was designed to fit inside the Filco TKL case.

"Winkeyless" layout is possible using any case, if you use an 86-key layout with a 1x key between each Ctrl and Alt. 84-key layout is possible by not installing switches in those positions, but there isn't (yet) a case with a top cover that has cutouts to cover those positions. Maybe someone is working on one...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Acetrak on Sun, 30 December 2012, 11:20:44
A dedicated case would surely boost the appeal of the Phantom :))
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 30 December 2012, 19:45:13
I may be interested in getting my switches from you ! are you going to order or you already have stocks ?
I will be ordering them from a place that has them in stock.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 30 December 2012, 19:50:13
Is LED resistor swap for the top right LED?

Is Phantom able to add LED onto the switches?
yea the swap would be to change the color of the leds.

you can choose to put leds in caps and scroll lock instead of in the dedicated led holes if you want but those are the only switches that you can put leds in.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 30 December 2012, 19:57:00
Are there any other cases I could use with this PCB? The PLU case is only meh it seems, and it doesn't seem to allow for a winkeyless layout..

The Phantom PCB was designed to fit inside the Filco TKL case.

"Winkeyless" layout is possible using any case, if you use an 86-key layout with a 1x key between each Ctrl and Alt. 84-key layout is possible by not installing switches in those positions, but there isn't (yet) a case with a top cover that has cutouts to cover those positions. Maybe someone is working on one...

thanks jdcarpe
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 30 December 2012, 19:57:36
A dedicated case would surely boost the appeal of the Phantom :))
agreed it would but i dont know it will happen for Phantom R2 maybe for phantom v2 though?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 30 December 2012, 20:13:34
looks like MiMiC cable wont happen as part of the GB but if you still want one just contact him direct for one or fill out his form in his thread, links are in a note in the OP
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 30 December 2012, 20:20:38
added pricing for cherry stabilizers
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Acetrak on Sun, 30 December 2012, 20:22:16
I am assuming the same goes for the detachable mini USB mod?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 30 December 2012, 20:33:12
I am assuming the same goes for the detachable mini USB mod?
yea that should be possible idk if he has do any trial and error with that though get
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:14:01
From looking at the PCB I don't think it's possible, but if I missed it, is adding leds to certain keys supported and if so could you do that?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 31 December 2012, 16:20:29
From looking at the PCB I don't think it's possible, but if I missed it, is adding leds to certain keys supported and if so could you do that?
you can have leds in caps lock and scroll lock if you dont want the ones in the normal Filco positions.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 01 January 2013, 08:31:45
Corrected some formatting of the OP and added a note about ordering a few extra switches when you order.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 01 January 2013, 12:54:32
Costar stabilizer better or the cherry one ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 01 January 2013, 12:56:31
Costar stabilizer better or the cherry one ?
I prefer cherry with the mod.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 01 January 2013, 13:03:30
Costar stabilizer better or the cherry one ?
I prefer cherry with the mod.

what sort of mod can we do on cherry ? Sorry I'm new to all these
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 01 January 2013, 13:10:17
Costar stabilizer better or the cherry one ?
I prefer cherry with the mod.
there are little legs on the bottom you remove which make them feel much less mushy.

what sort of mod can we do on cherry ? Sorry I'm new to all these
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 01 January 2013, 13:49:56
Costar stabilizer better or the cherry one ?
I prefer cherry with the mod.
there are little legs on the bottom you remove which make them feel much less mushy.

what sort of mod can we do on cherry ? Sorry I'm new to all these

I see thank you sir. Probably getting each.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: rindorbrot on Tue, 01 January 2013, 17:33:10
Will you also offer custom springs and switch stickers? That would be awesome!

If I only order some parts, no full assembly, will you still do the Cherry stabilizer mod for example?

And how about if I would want both LED spots populated (Filco style + in switch, total of 4 LEDs), could you offer the parts for that too?

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 01 January 2013, 17:39:26
Will you also offer custom springs and switch stickers? That would be awesome!

If I only order some parts, no full assembly, will you still do the Cherry stabilizer mod for example?

And how about if I would want both LED spots populated (Filco style + in switch, total of 4 LEDs), could you offer the parts for that too?


I have no source of custom springs or stickers

I can do the cherry stab mod theres also a good video about it up on GH some where (try the KMC DITY thread [not my build log thread])

with the wiring of the phantom board you cant have both spots populated but we do offer different colors leds and their matching resistors
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: rindorbrot on Tue, 01 January 2013, 17:42:21
I thought I've read it somewhere that it is possible if you use a third resistor. Have to look that up again...

Edit:
Found it in the DT Thread for the Phantom.
Quote from: Deskthority-thread
Quote from: gimpster
Quote from: fruktstund
Question: is it possible to have LEDs both in the switches and between the six pack and Pause/Printscreen/Rollen keys? :)

Yes. It's definitely possible. I think you need 3 resistors, instead of 2, though. If I remember correctly, the Scroll Lock shares a resistor between the key light and the case light, but the Caps Lock has a separate location for the resistor used by the key light that is next to the switch.
Quote from: fruktstund
And thank you very much gimpster, tried it out, and it did work! I just soldered 3 resistors on because it seemed right, so I don't have any idea if it would work with only two, but I think not.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 01 January 2013, 17:53:56
I thought I've read it somewhere that it is possible if you use a third resistor. Have to look that up again...

Edit:
Found it in the DT Thread for the Phantom.
Quote from: Deskthority-thread
Quote from: gimpster
Quote from: fruktstund
Question: is it possible to have LEDs both in the switches and between the six pack and Pause/Printscreen/Rollen keys? :)

Yes. It's definitely possible. I think you need 3 resistors, instead of 2, though. If I remember correctly, the Scroll Lock shares a resistor between the key light and the case light, but the Caps Lock has a separate location for the resistor used by the key light that is next to the switch.
Quote from: fruktstund
And thank you very much gimpster, tried it out, and it did work! I just soldered 3 resistors on because it seemed right, so I don't have any idea if it would work with only two, but I think not.
ok well there are 3 resistor positions and 4 leds so you have to figure out the circuit that has 2 leds in it and see how it wired once that firgure out the correct resistor could be selected but to mu understanding the boar was never meant to run 4 leds at the same time.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: takaki on Wed, 02 January 2013, 02:31:44
the boar ? :D

Don't know about 4 LEDs but it can run a monkey.
(http://0.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/14/74/a9a99d23d41c81a2f06b622ef5ab0608.jpg)

LEDs do not have a resistance rating on it, so one resistor to control the current supplied to the LEDs are more than enough.
You can consider using a lower rated resistor to adjust the brightness among the LEDs you wanna add in.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 02 January 2013, 05:21:29
What matters is if their wired in series or parallel. As that will control if its possible and what resistor to use.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 02 January 2013, 05:40:44
Lets get back on topic in this thread please if you want to talk more abou what can be done to the phantom i would suggesting the phantom building thread.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: r3dx on Wed, 02 January 2013, 08:53:55
I'd be interested in some Cherry stabilizers and switches, although I'm still trying to decide which switches to get.  :-\
Decisions, decisions...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 02 January 2013, 12:55:13
Prof,

Are the only cases you're offering going to be the PLU's?  I need two cases, but I don't like the PLU's. 

In another thread you mentioned you were interested in a stainless case but that no one designed it and it would be expensive.  I'd buy one if you can make it happen.  I'm sure at least a few more people would jump in as well. 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Leewei on Wed, 02 January 2013, 22:51:35
There is a pure alu case being made from what I know, it will be out this week so just be on a lookout for it =)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 02 January 2013, 23:02:00
There is a pure alu case being made from what I know, it will be out this week so just be on a lookout for it =)

What do you mean "out this week"?  As in up for group buy, or on the open market?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Leewei on Wed, 02 January 2013, 23:03:33
There is a pure alu case being made from what I know, it will be out this week so just be on a lookout for it =)

What do you mean "out this week"?  As in up for group buy, or on the open market?

Out on GH forum and it will probably be a groupbuy. Out this week means that they will announce more details and information sometime in the coming 7 days.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 03 January 2013, 00:25:43
There is a pure alu case being made from what I know, it will be out this week so just be on a lookout for it =)

What do you mean "out this week"?  As in up for group buy, or on the open market?

Out on GH forum and it will probably be a groupbuy. Out this week means that they will announce more details and information sometime in the coming 7 days.

Thanks.... guess I was just hoping that it wouldn't be another 3 to 4 month adventure.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: nebo on Thu, 03 January 2013, 00:33:48
There is a pure alu case being made from what I know, it will be out this week so just be on a lookout for it =)

What do you mean "out this week"?  As in up for group buy, or on the open market?

Out on GH forum and it will probably be a groupbuy. Out this week means that they will announce more details and information sometime in the coming 7 days.

Thanks.... guess I was just hoping that it wouldn't be another 3 to 4 month adventure.
Welcome to the hobby. For perspective, the R4 GB if including interest check is coming up on 1.5 years soon. A few months for a solid case to have for such a sweet board is a small price to pay.

That said, this is TPs thread for building phantoms so let's not crap it up.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Amarok on Thu, 03 January 2013, 14:20:03
Are we still waiting on anything aside from plate pricing and case moding pricing?
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 03 January 2013, 23:48:20
Are we still waiting on anything aside from plate pricing and case moding pricing?
im doing the case moding so ill just have to decide on a price all that im waiting on besides this is the plates then...

O i almost forgot im looking into the additonal color plu cases and should hear back soon. Sorry for now updating the thread recently, and ill start working on the form so i can get it up asap once everything has pricing.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 04 January 2013, 00:55:05
Did you get any quotes back yet? I still haven't gotten any from the local places around me.
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 00:56:35
Did you get any quotes back yet? I still haven't gotten any from the local places around me.
nope if i dont get a reply soon ill send a follow up email.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Paranoid on Fri, 04 January 2013, 04:23:33
regarding the Cherry Stabilizers, is there a difference for ANSI/ISO or does it work for both? Or is everything included for both perhaps.
And the same question about the spacebar sizes :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Oproer on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:07:26
With the PCB GB being closed I am not sure what else I need to order in a GB separate from this. I need a plate from WhiteFireDragon's GB as well right?
And then I only need to participate more in this GB and in a GB once someone makes a decent looking case to replace the PLU-87?

I'm kinda lost on building designing my own keyboard.. I'm not even sure which layout I want it to have but I kinda like the one without the windowskeys but there's no case to make this look nice..
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:32:06
Is there a fancy form yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:43:03
Is there a fancy form yet?
no I still dont have pricing on plates which are rather important part of building a phantom
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:46:36
regarding the Cherry Stabilizers, is there a difference for ANSI/ISO or does it work for both? Or is everything included for both perhaps.
And the same question about the spacebar sizes :)
ansi/iso use the same stabilizers so everything is included.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:47:03
With the PCB GB being closed I am not sure what else I need to order in a GB separate from this. I need a plate from WhiteFireDragon's GB as well right?
And then I only need to participate more in this GB and in a GB once someone makes a decent looking case to replace the PLU-87?

I'm kinda lost on building designing my own keyboard.. I'm not even sure which layout I want it to have but I kinda like the one without the windowskeys but there's no case to make this look nice..
well this GB will have everything that you need but the PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: samwisekoi on Fri, 04 January 2013, 12:58:38
Is there a fancy form yet?
no I still dont have pricing on plates which are rather important part of building a phantom

That's cool.  You just have a close date that I don't want to miss.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 04 January 2013, 13:03:40
Is there a fancy form yet?
no I still dont have pricing on plates which are rather important part of building a phantom

That's cool.  You just have a close date that I don't want to miss.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
yes ill be extended probably ill have at least 1 week for thus GB to be open
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: rindorbrot on Sat, 05 January 2013, 07:39:19
I have another question regarding the Cherry stabilizers you will offer.
Quote
Cherry Stabilizers: $8 per set (will outfit a standard TKL keyboard)
Does "standard TKL" mean there will be only 6.25x spacebar stabilizers? Or will I be able to choose in the ordering for if I want a Cherry kit with 6.25x or 7x spacebar stabilizer?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 05 January 2013, 10:41:59
I have another question regarding the Cherry stabilizers you will offer.
Quote
Cherry Stabilizers: $8 per set (will outfit a standard TKL keyboard)
Does "standard TKL" mean there will be only 6.25x spacebar stabilizers? Or will I be able to choose in the ordering for if I want a Cherry kit with 6.25x or 7x spacebar stabilizer?
youll be able to choose when ordering which spacebar you want.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: rindorbrot on Sat, 05 January 2013, 10:57:56
OK, and how will it work with the plates exactly?

I understand that you will offer the ones being discussed in WFDs IC thread. Will your GB be the only spot to order those plates or will we be able to order them from WFD himself directly, too?
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 06 January 2013, 01:15:14
OK, and how will it work with the plates exactly?

I understand that you will offer the ones being discussed in WFDs IC thread. Will your GB be the only spot to order those plates or will we be able to order them from WFD himself directly, too?
i believe ill be selling them though that may change depending on who gets the best pricing or actually gets a quote first lol
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 06 January 2013, 16:30:48
Is order form up yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 06 January 2013, 20:10:53
Is order form up yet?

Doesn't look like it. I believe they're waiting on quotes for the plates.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: mashby on Sun, 06 January 2013, 20:30:56
I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I don't know what the following options are:

May I buy a clue?  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 06 January 2013, 21:50:27
I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I don't know what the following options are:
  • LED and Resistor Swap
  • Black or Clear Spring for Spacebar: $0 (free) per phantom
  • Cherry Stabilizer Mod: $0 (free) per phantom

May I buy a clue?  ;)

1. If you want to use a different LED color than the white LEDs supplied. Different LEDs have different voltages, and so require different resistor values.
2. Sometimes you want your spacebar to have a stiffer spring than the rest of your switches. For instance, if you have a board with reds, you want a black spacebar spring to provide more resistance.
3. Cherry stabilizers can feel mushy to some people. There is a mod where you clip a piece of the stabilizer insert to make it feel less so.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: mashby on Sun, 06 January 2013, 21:57:39
1. If you want to use a different LED color than the white LEDs supplied. Different LEDs have different voltages, and so require different resistor values.
2. Sometimes you want your spacebar to have a stiffer spring than the rest of your switches. For instance, if you have a board with reds, you want a black spacebar spring to provide more resistance.
3. Cherry stabilizers can feel mushy to some people. There is a mod where you clip a piece of the stabilizer insert to make it feel less so.

jdcarpe, you are both a gentleman and a scholar.  :D

Thank you for explaining everything so plainly. Now I know what additional options I should add to my future order.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: mashby on Sun, 06 January 2013, 22:58:08
The PLU-87 comes with a plate, so do we still need to source a plate from WFD's Plate GB?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: alaricljs on Sun, 06 January 2013, 23:29:48
Well, you won't be able to stem/spring swap with that one and you want have as many layout options... and it'll only have costar? stabs (PLU uses costar, right?).  But it should technically work.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 07 January 2013, 02:19:00
is the deadline still in two days? I feel like it should be extended.

Is Phantom Full LED compatible?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: daerid on Mon, 07 January 2013, 03:18:45
Yeah, I'd love to have a few extra days for my check to come in :(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 07 January 2013, 22:03:21
yes were still waiting on a quote for the plates sorry

and thanks for clarifying that for me jdcarpe

i would not recommend trying to use the PLU's plate it may not align perfectly.

no the form will be up for one week, sorry about all of the wait id have it up if I could.

and no the phantom is not full led compatible.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 08 January 2013, 07:32:03
In for switches! (came from the PCB thread :) )
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: bpiphany on Tue, 08 January 2013, 07:35:44
You know it is going to be worth every cent ; )
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HAKKO-153-LEAD-FORMER-CUTTING-FORMING-FOR-TAPE-TYPE-AXIAL-CUTTER-/110996905013?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d7ee5c35

Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 08 January 2013, 09:34:51
You know it is going to be worth every cent ; )
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HAKKO-153-LEAD-FORMER-CUTTING-FORMING-FOR-TAPE-TYPE-AXIAL-CUTTER-/110996905013?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d7ee5c35

coo
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Tue, 08 January 2013, 13:09:22
I  would like you to built mine also ... I got two phantoms on the order. Any chance of getting a nice aluminum case for it? I wanted the MKS one, but was too late for the group buy. Any idea?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 08 January 2013, 13:14:00
The MKC one might not be compatible and I think only 6 total were made/sold. There are quite a few cases in the work, just have to see which ones come out and fit your needs and budget. I doubt they will be out in time for the GB nor included. It should only take 10 minutes and a flathead or allan wrench to install the PCB with switches into a case.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: gizzard on Tue, 08 January 2013, 22:42:36
Don't suppose there is pricing on plu switch removal and case modding without assembly?   Want to leave the hard stuff for you and enjoy the easy part myself :p. 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 09 January 2013, 00:34:14
I want to order some stabilizers and switches, where is the order form?

So that I ensure I'm in before this closes, I want:

1 set cherry stabalizers
1 set costar stabalizers
180 clears
15 mx DarkGrey
10 mx White
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 09 January 2013, 01:51:07
A form will be up when he is done acquiring pricing. A new closing date will be set as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: llovro on Wed, 09 January 2013, 08:57:02
A bit noobish and awkward question but how hard would it be to move everything (by everything I mean pcb with switches and all the other stuff) from plu case to other case?
Thanks in adcance!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 09 January 2013, 09:02:07
jdcarpe, you are both a gentleman and a scholar.  :D

Your good looks are only exceeded by your kindness and generosity.

A bit noobish and awkward question but how hard would it be to move everything (by everything I mean pcb with switches and all the other stuff) from plu case to other case?
Thanks in adcance!
If you know how to solder, not too hard at all. If not, you may have some difficulties.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 09 January 2013, 11:51:03
I just noticed that you're also offering white switches. Are these 55cN or the 80cN? I'd guess the later since those are "modern".


EDIT - Also just realized, the plates aren't going to support a short right shift + extra key are they? :(  Without it I can't get the right part of the keyboard to be:
Code: [Select]
7 8 9
4 5 6
1 2 3
0   .
with a fn layer for the normal keys that go there.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Matt3o on Fri, 11 January 2013, 03:03:11
definitely interested in both Cherry and Costar stabilizers.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Sat, 12 January 2013, 04:14:19
When will this be ready to order?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: snoopy on Sat, 12 January 2013, 04:33:04
If you didn't order a Phantom pcb you're already too late...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Sat, 12 January 2013, 06:33:38
If you didn't order a Phantom pcb you're already too late...

I ordered two!!! :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 12 January 2013, 16:05:36
as soon as we have complete pricing for plates this wikll start and a form will go up we will be working on taking orders for 1 week.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: metafour on Sat, 12 January 2013, 16:11:39
I thought you both got quotes back as mentioned in the IC thread.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 12 January 2013, 19:24:22
I thought you both got quotes back as mentioned in the IC thread.
yea my place was knocked out of the running and i did get a price from WFD but idk if its for alu or SS

I also might be able to get colored PLU cases instead of just then standard ones if theres enough interest.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 14 January 2013, 20:56:22
working on the form as wek speak guys
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 14 January 2013, 22:39:14
THE FORM IS UP!!! (http://tinyurl.com/abblp6v)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: AKIMbO on Mon, 14 January 2013, 22:45:32
There's no pricing in the form for the stabilizers (cherry and costar).
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 14 January 2013, 22:45:56
Done!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 14 January 2013, 22:51:19
There's no pricing in the form for the stabilizers (cherry and costar).
thanks form will be down for a bit as its being fixed also some fields arnt showing up... itll be a couple of min
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Germiphene on Mon, 14 January 2013, 22:54:34
Hey!  Grats on the form going up.  Going to fill it out soon!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 14 January 2013, 22:58:37
I just read that the dark grey (linear) is used as the SB for MX Blacks and that the regular grey (tactile) is used for the SB on Clears.  Being that you're not offering blacks currently, can you swap out dark grey for grey, or just add grey as an option?

Dark Grey: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Dark_Grey

Grey        : http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Grey

I do realize that you may not be able to get them, just a humble request.

thanks prof.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 14 January 2013, 23:11:05
form fixed sorry about that anyone who already submitted is safe still and good to go though

http://tinyurl.com/abblp6v
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 14 January 2013, 23:19:37
I just read that the dark grey (linear) is used as the SB for MX Blacks and that the regular grey (tactile) is used for the SB on Clears.  Being that you're not offering blacks currently, can you swap out dark grey for grey, or just add grey as an option?

Dark Grey: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Dark_Grey

Grey        : http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Grey

I do realize that you may not be able to get them, just a humble request.

thanks prof.
whats up there is what i can get thats in stock. there still may be a possibility of black and green the form and thread wil be updated if that is the case.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 14 January 2013, 23:20:39
If anyone has questions please post there here so that other can see the answers as well, thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Amarok on Mon, 14 January 2013, 23:21:16
Ordered. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: okooko on Mon, 14 January 2013, 23:23:58
Hi Prof,

Just looking through the form, I'm semi-clueless as to what many of the options actually are.
If I tell you what I'm after, then perhaps you can tell me what options I should go for?

Just a plain phantom with MX clears, perhaps MX black on the space and all put together, thats about it.

Just a few questions
1. Not really wanting a PLU87 case, there are a few on the drawing board might wait for one of those.
2. and I've got no idea regarding
2a. resistor swaps
2b. lubed switches
2c. stabiliser mods

Id be getting a plate so i'd need the plate mounted stabilisers?

If you can give me a clue what is involved in a normal assembly (minus the case i guess for now) that would be amazing

Thanks again.

This might also be useful for others that are as clueless as me.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: AKIMbO on Mon, 14 January 2013, 23:29:21
Form submitted....hope we can get 1000 white switches!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 14 January 2013, 23:32:52
did I read the form correctly:

2 resistors + 2 LED's = $5
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 14 January 2013, 23:33:53
Form submitted....hope we can get 1000 white switches!
akimbo i dont see yours did you already submit? if so could you try again? sorry
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 14 January 2013, 23:47:08
did I read the form correctly:

2 resistors + 2 LED's = $5
looking at exact pricing now on that prices may go down
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 00:01:37
Hi Prof,

Just looking through the form, I'm semi-clueless as to what many of the options actually are.
If I tell you what I'm after, then perhaps you can tell me what options I should go for?

Just a plain phantom with MX clears, perhaps MX black on the space and all put together, thats about it.

Just a few questions
1. Not really wanting a PLU87 case, there are a few on the drawing board might wait for one of those.
2. and I've got no idea regarding
2a. resistor swaps
2b. lubed switches
2c. stabiliser mods

Id be getting a plate so i'd need the plate mounted stabilisers?

If you can give me a clue what is involved in a normal assembly (minus the case i guess for now) that would be amazing

Thanks again.

This might also be useful for others that are as clueless as me.


select basica assembly then and you probably dont want a black spring for the spacebar with clears as black is actually lighter

1. yo udont need to order a case but you will have to order a plate if you want me to assemble it for you.

2. what are yo uasking?

2a. thats if you want different caps and scroll lock leds

2b. its as it sounds I crack open every switch and lube them the by one with krytox 205\

2c. basically makes a cherry stabilizer feel closer to a costar

yes you will need plat mount stabilizers as that is all the phantom supports

hopefully this helps if you have any more questions please ask
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 00:06:04
Form submitted....hope we can get 1000 white switches!
got your order and just so you all know we only need a total of 1000 switches to order not 1000 of each type
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: AKIMbO on Tue, 15 January 2013, 00:10:12
^Then we are at least 1/10th of the way there.  XD
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 15 January 2013, 00:22:25
^Then we are at least 1/10th of the way there.  XD
2/10

TP, are those the only plates officially? I ordered the ANSI150  but was hoping for something like this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38623.msg760615#msg760615) but with standard FN row.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 00:39:49
^Then we are at least 1/10th of the way there.  XD
2/10

TP, are those the only plates officially? I ordered the ANSI150  but was hoping for something like this (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38623.msg760615#msg760615) but with standard FN row.
these are the only plates that are made currently i believe WFD said we had to have at leas 15 people interested to get another design...     


(sorry cant find that exact post but its mentioned in the IC thread a bunch of times)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 00:41:01
fixed the links for the pics for the plates in the description
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: zyth3x on Tue, 15 January 2013, 01:25:39
Form filled for some Clear switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 15 January 2013, 01:35:23
the gates have opened!! wooooo

parts-only order submitted :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 01:51:51
some orders and just so you all rmember if your going to use the right side as a numpad or use my layout youll need more switches please dont forget to take that into account
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: reality404 on Tue, 15 January 2013, 02:54:28
Form filled for parts-only order. Thanks for the group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 02:57:58
Form filled for some Clear switches.

the gates have opened!! wooooo

parts-only order submitted :)

Form filled for parts-only order. Thanks for the group buy.


thanks for the parts orders guys
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: csimi on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:00:17
I wrote in the notes to also reassemble the PLU but I think this would be a great chance to learn soldering so please send it in parts.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: gameaholic on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:02:47
I'm going for a black case with lubed red switches costar stabilizers and the same layout as my filco TKL.

Some questions before I fill out the form.

1.  About the plates.  I already ordered 2 of WFD's universal plates (1 to go in this and one for my filco) and he is doing my assembly so I should already be good and not need any of the other plates right?

2. If I order the black PLU 87 with Red Switches that covers the case and switches then I just need to order a few extra red switches in case they are bad. 
(I will also be ordering some clear switches to go in my GH60-how many of those will I need?).

3. No purple or white LEDs?


Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:04:09
I wrote in the notes to also reassemble the PLU but I think this would be a great chance to learn soldering so please send it in parts.
that means you only want the stem/spring swap assembly too correct? not the basic assembly in addition?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: csimi on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:08:50
Yeah, one stem/spring swap assembly and the PLU pcb/plate/remaining parts also sent in pieces.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:16:45
I'm going for a black case with lubed red switches costar stabilizers and the same layout as my filco TKL.

Some questions before I fill out the form.

1.  About the plates.  I already ordered 2 of WFD's universal plates (1 to go in this and one for my filco) and he is doing my assembly so I should already be good and not need any of the other plates right?

2. If I order the black PLU 87 with Red Switches that covers the case and switches then I just need to order a few extra red switches in case they are bad. 
(I will also be ordering some clear switches to go in my GH60-how many of those will I need?).

3. No purple or white LEDs?




if he is doing your assembly and is one of the builders in this GB select the type of assembly that you want and leave his name in the notes so that the needed parts get shipped to him. No you shouldnt need any other plates.

yes a few extra would be good also dont forget stabilizers i recommended cherry with the mod

white is what comes with the phantom and no no purple those are usually UV
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:17:31
Yeah, one stem/spring swap assembly and the PLU pcb/plate/remaining parts also sent in pieces.
alright ill modify your order for you

edit: modified
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:28:05
sorry if I missed something, but are these the plates from the IC http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38623.0 ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:29:00
sorry if I missed something, but are these the plates from the IC http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38623.0 ?
yep theres a note way at the bottom of the OP sorry it doesnt stick out more
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:33:32
you are right, sorry dude, didn't notice the notes were updated.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:34:43
you are right, sorry dude, didn't notice the notes were updated.
not a problem their not very noticeable lol
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:45:04
still undecided if I should get a full PLU or just the plate...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: BimboBB on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:46:23
form filled for parts only order. (but had to mark all the other stuff with zero)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: kmiller8 on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:50:58
form filled for parts only order. (but had to mark all the other stuff with zero)

^this

That's reallllly annoying.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Acquiring Pricing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 03:55:36
form filled for parts only order. (but had to mark all the other stuff with zero)

^this

That's reallllly annoying.
sorry but i set i up that way purposefully so hopefully having to mark 0 would force you to really look over what your ordering and not miss anything.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 04:12:39
topic updated
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Amr0d on Tue, 15 January 2013, 04:57:43
Can we get Purple LED?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Dgsbllx on Tue, 15 January 2013, 05:11:34
Are LEDs actually needed at all?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 05:13:03
dont forget if you guys are looking for a nice custom cable for your phantom get in touch with MiMiC (http://tinyurl.com/bht869j) also check out his thread here (http://tinyurl.com/bw6qpn8).
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 05:13:43
Are LEDs actually needed at all?
no, you get white ones in the kit the ones i offer are if you want a different color.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: okooko on Tue, 15 January 2013, 05:16:26
Form submitted, thanks for the clarifications.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Dgsbllx on Tue, 15 January 2013, 05:18:40
Are LEDs actually needed at all?
no, you get white ones in the kit the ones i offer are if you want a different color.

So I don't even need the white ones on either?
Cheers for quick response
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 05:25:57
Form submitted, thanks for the clarifications.
yep no problem, and yes its fine we can ship it to you built without a case.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 05:30:48
also as a note if anyone is planing on ergo clears youll need select at least the stem or spring swap service and buy clears, along with either providing me with springs or buying another type of switch for the springs. This is only if you are have me build ergo clears and remember all extra parts will be returned to you with your phantom.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Matt3o on Tue, 15 January 2013, 05:51:01
okay took a plate, if I get it right it will be SS, but ALU is also good for me
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 06:08:13
okay took a plate, if I get it right it will be SS, but ALU is also good for me
yes plates are made of stainless
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Tue, 15 January 2013, 07:35:11
Form filled, can't wait!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Tue, 15 January 2013, 07:38:06
Sent me order for the two Phantoms! Thank you very much for the great support Prof:)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: agor on Tue, 15 January 2013, 08:41:40
Order sent, thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 15 January 2013, 09:14:45
Form filled.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Leewei on Tue, 15 January 2013, 09:52:28
Form filled. Thanks =)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: longweight on Tue, 15 January 2013, 14:05:22
So are the LEDs for all of the caps? Per set?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 15:09:44
So are the LEDs for all of the caps? Per set?
nope there only 2 leds on the board the price for the leds will be adjusted later today hopefullly when i have time to price out the leds and resistors
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 15 January 2013, 15:22:59
I have a question, how are you planning on modifying the PLU case for the 7bit num block? Might end up wanting to get one seeing as cases are still probably a few months out...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 15:30:01
I have a question, how are you planning on modifying the PLU case for the 7bit num block? Might end up wanting to get one seeing as cases are still probably a few months out...
using my skill and a dremel, the same way that I did mine, their not perfect those were also my first attempts at it but I will make it look as clean as possible


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/GeekHack/GH-sub-mine/IMG_2440.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/GeekHack/GH-sub-mine/IMG_2444.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Acetrak on Tue, 15 January 2013, 15:32:23
TheProfosist is gonna karate chop them
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Binge on Tue, 15 January 2013, 15:44:24
submitted my order.  Interested to use a prof-layout for a full day of work.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 15 January 2013, 16:02:21
I think I'll wait until the 20th (this closes the 21st right?) until I change my order to get a case as well in case something comes up.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: AKIMbO on Tue, 15 January 2013, 16:03:10
How are we doing on switches Prof?  Anywhere near 1000 yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 15 January 2013, 17:08:17
Well I'm about to order at least 180 more.. gonna be building a lot more than a Phantom! :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 17:15:41
I think I'll wait until the 20th (this closes the 21st right?) until I change my order to get a case as well in case something comes up.
sounds fine to me just maksure you get your order in before the loose deadline
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 17:15:56
How are we doing on switches Prof?  Anywhere near 1000 yet?
clears alone are well over the 1000
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 15 January 2013, 17:19:17
I think I'll wait until the 20th (this closes the 21st right?) until I change my order to get a case as well in case something comes up.
sounds fine to me just maksure you get your order in before the loose deadline
Already got it in just to be safe. Worst case I have to use my super duper dremel skills on a case I get from classifieds.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 18:39:30
ok an update on switches (the OP and form will be updated shortly):

there will be more switch types coming (still no blacks). green and grey were added.

white's and dark grey's price has to be raised $0.05 a switch

and i was informed that there are now limited stocks on hand for switches and any switches order over those amounts would be back ordered ~2 months


sorry to bring the semi disheartening news but I dont have much control over this, for those who dont want to wait but are over the limited amount of instock switches i could look into getting some from mouser or like likes but the pricing even at 500 switches is much higher. Also if you ordered switches before this announcement and would like to cancel because of it please send me a pm.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 18:46:03
here is the updated switch list


Code: [Select]
$0.60 - MXBLUE     (MX1A-E1NN)
$0.60 - MXBROWN     (MX1A-G1NN)
$0.60 - MXRED     (MX1A-L1NN)
$0.60 - MXCLEAR     (MX1A-C1NN)
$0.85 - MXGREEN     (MX1A-F1NN)
$0.65 - MXWHITE     (MX1A-A1NN)
$0.85 - MXGREY     (MX1A-D1NN)
$0.85 - MXDARKGREY     (MX1A-21NN)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 15 January 2013, 18:46:54
An extra $5 for white switches? Worth it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: AKIMbO on Tue, 15 January 2013, 18:56:51
An extra $5 for white switches? Worth it.

Heck yes it is.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 19:09:02
MXWHITE now on backorder
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 19:12:30
OP and Form now fully up to date!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: AKIMbO on Tue, 15 January 2013, 19:13:46
MXWHITE now on backorder

Nooo!!!1
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 15 January 2013, 19:21:55
MXWHITE now on backorder
Does it affect you if the order was already in?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 19:26:56
MXWHITE now on backorder

Nooo!!!1

MXWHITE now on backorder
Does it affect you if the order was already in?

dont worry you two and everyone that ordered before I announced they were on back order got there orders in for instock switches
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: AKIMbO on Tue, 15 January 2013, 19:30:31
MXWHITE now on backorder

Nooo!!!1

MXWHITE now on backorder
Does it affect you if the order was already in?

dont worry you two and everyone that ordered before I announced they were on back order got there orders in for instock switches


(http://i50.tinypic.com/169m2hf.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: gameaholic on Tue, 15 January 2013, 20:30:22
I'm going for a black case with lubed red switches costar stabilizers and the same layout as my filco TKL.

Some questions before I fill out the form.

1.  About the plates.  I already ordered 2 of WFD's universal plates (1 to go in this and one for my filco) and he is doing my assembly so I should already be good and not need any of the other plates right?

2. If I order the black PLU 87 with Red Switches that covers the case and switches then I just need to order a few extra red switches in case they are bad. 
(I will also be ordering some clear switches to go in my GH60-how many of those will I need?).

3. No purple or white LEDs?




if he is doing your assembly and is one of the builders in this GB select the type of assembly that you want and leave his name in the notes so that the needed parts get shipped to him. No you shouldnt need any other plates.

yes a few extra would be good also dont forget stabilizers i recommended cherry with the mod

white is what comes with the phantom and no no purple those are usually UV
Form Filled.  I've never tried cherry stabilizers.  Gonna trust you on this one. 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Tue, 15 January 2013, 21:52:56
If you could, could you give me a brief explanation of what the Cherry Stabilizers do? I just want to be sure that I'd like them before they're on :) Thanks!!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 15 January 2013, 21:55:19
If you could, could you give me a brief explanation of what the Cherry Stabilizers do? I just want to be sure that I'd like them before they're on :) Thanks!!
they stabilize the 2x+ width keys so when you press on one side the other side goes down
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 16 January 2013, 13:38:46
MXCLEAR now on BACKORDER!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 16 January 2013, 13:45:45
MXCLEAR now on BACKORDER!
OP and Form updated to reflect this
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 16 January 2013, 13:55:51
that was quick, glad i put mine in early, i'm guessing back order means future requests are back order, i'm still good?

maybe at some point you should post what your total order looks like so far or something as people put in their orders, i dunno how i should say it, some tally or something. I'm interested in how many plates, PLU, and switches your having to order. More of my curiosity than a requirement....


Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 16 January 2013, 14:03:53
that was quick, glad i put mine in early, i'm guessing back order means future requests are back order, i'm still good?

maybe at some point you should post what your total order looks like so far or something as people put in their orders, i dunno how i should say it, some tally or something. I'm interested in how many plates, PLU, and switches your having to order. More of my curiosity than a requirement....



yes that is what that means and yes i made notes in the speadsheet about when the in stock stuff has run out so that I know exactly who gets what

ill do it possibly tonight


also people dont forget that you can  still order switches ad they will be guarenteed at this price now

blacksd should be added later today a different source was found for them thanks alaricljs
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 16 January 2013, 17:11:04
Prof,

I want to add 20 MX Grey's to my order, I ordered before that was an option.  Should I fill out another form, or can you edit my existing order?  I don't want to order again and lose my place in line on the clears and whites.

Do I have the ability to view my order?

I'm pretty sure since I got my order in the day the form went up, but can you confirm that I got in before these switches were placed on backorder?

Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Wed, 16 January 2013, 17:17:03
How long do you think that the backorder for MX Whites will take? Thinking about changing my PLU board to reds also, but it depends on how long the wait will be for some whites :)

Thanks Prof, props for doing all this work!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: longweight on Wed, 16 January 2013, 17:17:12
Submitted last night :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 16 January 2013, 18:11:50
How long do you think that the backorder for MX Whites will take? Thinking about changing my PLU board to reds also, but it depends on how long the wait will be for some whites :)

Thanks Prof, props for doing all this work!

I think he said two months
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Wed, 16 January 2013, 18:37:36
Damn, well I guess I'll pass on those then :/ but could you switch my PLU board to one with reds please :) thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 16 January 2013, 21:23:53
Prof,

I want to add 20 MX Grey's to my order, I ordered before that was an option.  Should I fill out another form, or can you edit my existing order?  I don't want to order again and lose my place in line on the clears and whites.

Do I have the ability to view my order?

I'm pretty sure since I got my order in the day the form went up, but can you confirm that I got in before these switches were placed on backorder?

Thanks
i can add them to your order and i could PM you your order if you want
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 16 January 2013, 21:24:18
How long do you think that the backorder for MX Whites will take? Thinking about changing my PLU board to reds also, but it depends on how long the wait will be for some whites :)

Thanks Prof, props for doing all this work!

I think he said two months
yes i was told 2 months
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Wed, 16 January 2013, 21:42:41
Prof,

I want to add 20 MX Grey's to my order, I ordered before that was an option.  Should I fill out another form, or can you edit my existing order?  I don't want to order again and lose my place in line on the clears and whites.

Do I have the ability to view my order?

I'm pretty sure since I got my order in the day the form went up, but can you confirm that I got in before these switches were placed on backorder?

Thanks
i can add them to your order and i could PM you your order if you want

That'd be awesome! Thanks man.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 16 January 2013, 21:45:01
Prof,

I want to add 20 MX Grey's to my order, I ordered before that was an option.  Should I fill out another form, or can you edit my existing order?  I don't want to order again and lose my place in line on the clears and whites.

Do I have the ability to view my order?

I'm pretty sure since I got my order in the day the form went up, but can you confirm that I got in before these switches were placed on backorder?

Thanks
i can add them to your order and i could PM you your order if you want

That'd be awesome! Thanks man.
you want pm of your order your saying?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Wed, 16 January 2013, 21:53:23
Yes please, that would just clear a couple things up. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 16 January 2013, 22:31:56
Prof,

I want to add 20 MX Grey's to my order, I ordered before that was an option.  Should I fill out another form, or can you edit my existing order?  I don't want to order again and lose my place in line on the clears and whites.

Do I have the ability to view my order?

I'm pretty sure since I got my order in the day the form went up, but can you confirm that I got in before these switches were placed on backorder?

Thanks
i can add them to your order and i could PM you your order if you want

That'd be awesome! Thanks man.
you want pm of your order your saying?

Just wanted to confirm I was in before the backorder, I'm pretty sure I am since I ordered so quickly.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 16 January 2013, 22:38:57
Prof,

I want to add 20 MX Grey's to my order, I ordered before that was an option.  Should I fill out another form, or can you edit my existing order?  I don't want to order again and lose my place in line on the clears and whites.

Do I have the ability to view my order?

I'm pretty sure since I got my order in the day the form went up, but can you confirm that I got in before these switches were placed on backorder?

Thanks
i can add them to your order and i could PM you your order if you want

That'd be awesome! Thanks man.
you want pm of your order your saying?

Just wanted to confirm I was in before the backorder, I'm pretty sure I am since I ordered so quickly.
yep your before both backorders
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 16 January 2013, 23:47:46
ARE YOU SERIOUS? The only thing I actually want from this thread was the mx white switches... didn't even get a chance to get my order in.

Prof, what is the lead time for backordered mx whites? Can you get them to start ordering the whites and clears?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 16 January 2013, 23:53:11
ARE YOU SERIOUS? The only thing I actually want from this thread was the mx white switches... didn't even get a chance to get my order in.

Prof, what is the lead time for backordered mx whites? Can you get them to start ordering the whites and clears?
2 months as it is right now but since we blew through the certain instock switches so quickly i asked if there was any way we could expedite getting more

BTW there were a fairly large number of clears and a fairly small amount of whites
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Amarok on Thu, 17 January 2013, 00:13:15
Is it possible to confirm if my order for clears was in before backorders?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 17 January 2013, 00:14:42
If the back order of 2 months is brought down any for whites, put me down for 100 so I don't lose another spot :p
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 17 January 2013, 00:19:14
Is it possible to confirm if my order for clears was in before backorders?
yep well before
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: gameaholic on Thu, 17 January 2013, 01:08:43
I filled the form before I saw the video on what the cherry stabilizer mod is.  I'd also like that.  Please add it to the notes.   
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 17 January 2013, 15:03:05
I filled the form before I saw the video on what the cherry stabilizer mod is.  I'd also like that.  Please add it to the notes.   
done
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Leewei on Thu, 17 January 2013, 15:13:52
Hiya prof, can you add 2 mx grey switches to my order?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 17 January 2013, 15:43:38
Hiya prof, can you add 2 mx grey switches to my order?
done
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 17 January 2013, 15:46:24
Jw, did you switch my PLU to reds instead of browns? Can't remember if I got a message! Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 17 January 2013, 16:00:10
Jw, did you switch my PLU to reds instead of browns? Can't remember if I got a message! Thanks
done
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 17 January 2013, 16:05:13
Awesome! Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 17 January 2013, 16:14:55
Awesome! Thanks
no problem
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 17 January 2013, 16:16:34
Can we still order the switches that are under backordered?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 17 January 2013, 16:17:54
Can we still order the switches that are under backordered?
yep and yo ucan order as many as you want too
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 17 January 2013, 16:23:50
Can we still order the switches that are under backordered?
yep and yo ucan order as many as you want too

Alright, thank you. I'll order ASAP
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: nebo on Fri, 18 January 2013, 11:29:59
Hey TP, do you think your modding skills are up to something like this for making a PLU case winkeyless?


http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/komar-60-board-complete-t4865.html
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 18 January 2013, 15:29:07
Hey TP, do you think your modding skills are up to something like this for making a PLU case winkeyless?


http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8/komar-60-board-complete-t4865.html
seems like a pretty time consuming mod...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Fri, 18 January 2013, 18:31:27
You know what's more time consuming? Properly lubing every switch!

Did they already ordered the two backordered switches from cherry, or is the 2 months ETA from the time you submit all the orders?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: jabar on Fri, 18 January 2013, 18:48:00
Will there be other GBs for plates, or is this the only one?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 18 January 2013, 18:53:46
You know what's more time consuming? Properly lubing every switch!

Did they already ordered the two backordered switches from cherry, or is the 2 months ETA from the time you submit all the orders?
when i submit the order so they know how much to oorder but this GB ends in 3 days so you can think of them as the same.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 18 January 2013, 18:54:33
Will there be other GBs for plates, or is this the only one?
these are the ones im offering iidk if other ones have even been designed
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: jabar on Fri, 18 January 2013, 19:18:13
Also, how are you doing the PLU-M87 mods for your namesake plate? A dremel? Sorry if this has already been mentioned, leaning towards either PROF or ANSI150 format.

The poor PLUs :(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 18 January 2013, 19:27:10
Also, how are you doing the PLU-M87 mods for your namesake plate? A dremel? Sorry if this has already been mentioned, leaning towards either PROF or ANSI150 format.

The poor PLUs :(
yep dremel
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 18 January 2013, 20:52:52
Does 7x cherry stabilizer fit in ansi150 ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 18 January 2013, 20:55:35
Does 7x cherry stabilizer fit in ansi150 ?
yes that would be correct
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 18 January 2013, 20:58:45
Does 7x cherry stabilizer fit in ansi150 ?
yes that would be correct

Phew.. thank you
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: fl0w3n on Sat, 19 January 2013, 02:15:49
Whoa whoa, haven't checked the thread in a while... didn't see Grey and Dark Grey switches were available.  Really want to try both, as I think blacks aren't stiff enough.

Price is so steep though :( and I've already got some unused clears sitting here waiting

Damn, decisions decisions
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 19 January 2013, 02:39:54
Hmm, White or clear...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: fl0w3n on Sat, 19 January 2013, 12:45:01
Hmm, White or clear...

Buy me Dark Greys and I'll trade you my Clears, so you can skip the two month + waiting list :p
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Acetrak on Sat, 19 January 2013, 13:10:56
You might be able to work out a trade with someone, using springs from clear switches and linear stems to produce a switch you might enjoy more
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 19 January 2013, 13:50:33
I thought clear springs are similar to black springs? I do have blacks at home. And same reds.

Have the plates been decided yet?

How many keys are on the standard layout and prof layout?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: jabar on Sat, 19 January 2013, 14:02:02
Still debating the switches... I do have some 87 MX Browns w/ Clear springs, leftovers from danielucf's Ergo Clear swap...

Or, go full force with Greys or a linear Dark Grey... but I do like clicky Greens on my Ducky board... and Reds are great for gaming, but
already have the Filco. Decisions, decisions.

Also might consider a second ML-87 as they're awesome keyboards in their own right.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 19 January 2013, 16:47:27
looks like i forgot too add MXBLACK idk if it pays now with 2 days left is anyone interested in them?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: fl0w3n on Sat, 19 January 2013, 21:32:35
Man I gotta get my order in then! Need plates at least
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 19 January 2013, 21:34:23
Man I gotta get my order in then! Need plates at least
sorry am in process of updating this thread. if you need plates now you need to go to WFD http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.0
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 19 January 2013, 22:25:40
this GB is getting extended until the 26th
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Rendom on Sat, 19 January 2013, 22:28:00
Man I gotta get my order in then! Need plates at least
sorry am in process of updating this thread. if you need plates now you need to go to WFD http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.0
so for us who ordered need reorder plate?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 19 January 2013, 22:33:47
Man I gotta get my order in then! Need plates at least
sorry am in process of updating this thread. if you need plates now you need to go to WFD http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.0
so for us who ordered need reorder plate?
yes sorry about this i am updating the thread to reflect this right now
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Rendom on Sat, 19 January 2013, 22:34:50
Man I gotta get my order in then! Need plates at least
sorry am in process of updating this thread. if you need plates now you need to go to WFD http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39410.0
so for us who ordered need reorder plate?
yes sorry about this i am updating the thread to reflect this right now
I see no prob
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:09:40
I will no longer be offering Plates in this GB because WFD would like to offer them in a separate GB available here (http://tinyurl.com/bzgu54v). Please select to have your plate shipped to me if your have me do assembly or just ordering parts from me.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: jabar on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:38:00
If I have everything shipped to me, including a PLU-M87, any clue on what amount shipping will be (CONUS)? Might be switches, stabilizers and that keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:39:19
I am adding MXBLACK and MXLOCK to this GB on BACKORDER please feel free to order them.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:43:34
If I have everything shipped to me, including a PLU-M87, any clue on what amount shipping will be (CONUS)? Might be switches, stabilizers and that keyboard.
no not off the top of my head sorry as I havnt shipped anything but korean boards as of late. All shipping will be calculated per person at time of shipment
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: jabar on Sat, 19 January 2013, 23:50:41
no not off the top of my head sorry as I havnt shipped anything but korean boards as of late. All shipping will be calculated per person at time of shipment
OK, no problem, just trying to figure out how far my cash can stretch this time ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 01:16:19
led and resistor sets dropped to $2 after full research
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 01:35:00
OP Updated
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 01:38:36
Form Updated
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: csimi on Sun, 20 January 2013, 05:38:09
Ordered a plate from WFD.
Anyways you forgot one thing from your form, could you please solder my caps lock into the off-center position?
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Acetrak on Sun, 20 January 2013, 09:47:19
I think you can provide those details in the build instructions notes part of the forum :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 13:05:18
Yes you can provide them there or usually 7x space you tend to assume off canter caps as well
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Sun, 20 January 2013, 18:59:29
I'd also like to add cherry stabilizers to my order if you could help me out! Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 19:13:09
I'd also like to add cherry stabilizers to my order if you could help me out! Thanks!
sure 6.25 or 7x
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Sun, 20 January 2013, 19:14:41
7 please! Thanks bud
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 19:56:09
7 please! Thanks bud
updated
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: mashby on Sun, 20 January 2013, 21:12:03
I'm sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I didn't see it.

What is the preference of costar vs. cherry stabilizers?
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 21:39:19
I'm sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I didn't see it.

What is the preference of costar vs. cherry stabilizers?
for me cherry with the mod.
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: mashby on Sun, 20 January 2013, 21:40:43
I'm sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I didn't see it.

What is the preference of costar vs. cherry stabilizers?
for me cherry with the mod.

Why? What makes it better and why even offer a costar option if it's so good?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: alaricljs on Sun, 20 January 2013, 21:42:02
Cherry w/ the mod is close enough to Costar that I'm happy with that even on a board that does support Costar since I typically have Cherry stabs on hand.

The mod brings Cherry to 90-95% the same as Costar.  Since there's less material and parts rubbing on Costar it presents the least noticeable difference between stabilized and non-stabilized keys.
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Sun, 20 January 2013, 22:23:15
7 please! Thanks bud
updated

Make that 6.25, my bad sorry!

Edit: Dont do this, 7 will be fine as I've decided to use an ANSI150 for this phantom. Sorry for confusion.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 20 January 2013, 22:29:01
7 please! Thanks bud
updated

Make that 6.25, my bad sorry!

Edit: Dont do this, 7 will be fine as I've decided to use an ANSI150 for this phantom. Sorry for confusion.
TheProfosist's Brain Melts
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Sun, 20 January 2013, 22:30:35
Haha sorry! I'm bad at making decisions.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Jupiter on Mon, 21 January 2013, 04:00:24
Tried Blues on my Leo 500R, Browns on my Race. Greens look cool, lets try those :P
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Leewei on Tue, 22 January 2013, 10:34:06
Hey prof, can you cancel my order on the cherry plate mount stabilizers and mx grey switches? I want to update my order to only 90 mx clear switches. Sorry for the trouble.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 22 January 2013, 11:07:17
Hey prof, can you cancel my order on the cherry plate mount stabilizers and mx grey switches? I want to update my order to only 90 mx clear switches. Sorry for the trouble.
ok updated
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: gizzard on Tue, 22 January 2013, 12:00:08
Hey Prof,
can you PM me the status/amount of my order?  Im a bit confused..

Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 22 January 2013, 12:36:28
Hey Prof,
can you PM me the status/amount of my order?  Im a bit confused..

Thanks

sent you a pm about it
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 23 January 2013, 12:05:52
Prof, please add 90 brown switches to my order, i think i already put down 90 so this would make 180
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 23 January 2013, 12:22:07
Prof, please add 90 brown switches to my order, i think i already put down 90 so this would make 180
done
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 23 January 2013, 20:08:24
I know many of you are not going to be happy about this but after lubing a bunch of keyboards in the recent week and talking with the other people that will be helping be build I am going to have to raise the price on lubing $10 to cover for the fairly large amount of time involved. if you would like to change your order because of this please let me know as I have no problem changing your order.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 23 January 2013, 20:12:38
form and OP updated
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Amarok on Wed, 23 January 2013, 21:35:01
I'll keep my order the same. I don't mind the extra $10.00.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 23 January 2013, 23:49:15
I know many of you are not going to be happy about this but after lubing a bunch of keyboards in the recent week and talking with the other people that will be helping be build I am going to have to raise the price on lubing $10 to cover for the fairly large amount of time involved. if you would like to change your order because of this please let me know as I have no problem changing your order.

I saw this coming a mile away and knew it was inevitable you were going to raise the price or just completely not do it anymore. Lube job takes at least 3 hours to do it properly.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Oproer on Thu, 24 January 2013, 02:14:12
I'll be making use of your services as well, but I can't make the order just yet. I will do it tomorrow or saturday though..
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: alaricljs on Thu, 24 January 2013, 09:02:34
I saw this coming a mile away and knew it was inevitable you were going to raise the price or just completely not do it anymore. Lube job takes at least 3 hours to do it properly.

This, so much... hence no lube jobs from me :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and ***embly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 24 January 2013, 13:28:17
Prof, while we're on the topic, think about increasing your PLU switch desoldering cost too. You're not even using a desoldering gun. $5 kinda says you don't value your time.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and ***embly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Amarok on Thu, 24 January 2013, 13:52:24
Hey Prof, I changed my mind. Can you change me from ergo clears w/ lube to just modding to ergo-clears? Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 24 January 2013, 17:03:24
Hey Prof, I changed my mind. Can you change me from ergo clears w/ lube to just modding to ergo-clears? Thanks!
done
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 24 January 2013, 18:55:08
Prof, while we're on the topic, think about increasing your PLU switch desoldering cost too. You're not even using a desoldering gun. $5 kinda says you don't value your time.
yea... totally forgot about that, thanks for bringing it up!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 24 January 2013, 20:27:04
Prof, go ahead and remove the PLU keyboards and extra stabilizers from my order.
i went ahead and went with the Quickfires on amazon instead. It's too big of a deal to ignore.

This should leave the switches and LEDs as the only things in the order.

i wondering if you're going to put up a counter of how many parts people ordered, I'm very curious.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 24 January 2013, 20:55:03
Prof, go ahead and remove the PLU keyboards and extra stabilizers from my order.
i went ahead and went with the Quickfires on amazon instead. It's too big of a deal to ignore.

This should leave the switches and LEDs as the only things in the order.

i wondering if you're going to put up a counter of how many parts people ordered, I'm very curious.
done

and i might once the GB is done taking orders
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 25 January 2013, 17:47:48
Updated with you in PM. Thank you
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Gupgup on Fri, 25 January 2013, 21:11:55
Pm'd about my order. Thanks Prof
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 25 January 2013, 21:13:22
Just put in an Order for some Cherry Switches. 

Please let me know if I've selected the right stuff.  Thank you TheProfosist.  8)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 25 January 2013, 21:21:02
Prof...YGPM about adding 90 blue switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Kabuks on Fri, 25 January 2013, 21:52:12
Just filled out form for 100 Mx clears.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Leewei on Fri, 25 January 2013, 23:27:09
Hey profosist can I just change my mx clear count to 90 instead of 100? Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: zzAaron on Sat, 26 January 2013, 04:01:09
SO.. we are out of clears right? /sigh
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: oluf on Sat, 26 January 2013, 11:25:34
TheProfosist -> Will this GB be open all day today (26th)? Do we still have time to place an order? Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 26 January 2013, 11:28:52
TheProfosist -> Will this GB be open all day today (26th)? Do we still have time to place an order? Thanks!
yes



and ill get to the rest of you soonish :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: oluf on Sat, 26 January 2013, 13:00:47
TheProfosist -> Will this GB be open all day today (26th)? Do we still have time to place an order? Thanks!
yes

Order placed.. I have opted to wait for the whites. Thanks again!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Paranoid on Sat, 26 January 2013, 13:11:31
Hey Profosist, just wanted to ask if it's still possible to change from an ISO125 to an ISO150? And also from a 6.25x to a 7x cherry plate stabilizer. I have changed my mind since I'll have some nice keysets by then :)
My 2nd choice would still be an ISO125 then. Third stays the same.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Rendom on Sat, 26 January 2013, 16:03:40
Added new order. Do update for me Prof.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 26 January 2013, 16:46:05
Hey Prof, Are you able to get any PBC mount MX locks?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: theultrazord on Sat, 26 January 2013, 16:56:01
Hey Prof. I just wanted to check to see if my order was set. I believe I put it in before you took out the plates but I also wanted to get some other stuff from you. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: metafour on Sat, 26 January 2013, 17:06:45
Yeah I had an order of stabilizers and plates with you but want to make sure I'm still going to receive the stabs since you moved the plates GB over to WFD.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 26 January 2013, 17:38:05
updated all the stuff in the thread and PMs i got regarding this GB
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 26 January 2013, 17:41:07
Hey Profosist, just wanted to ask if it's still possible to change from an ISO125 to an ISO150? And also from a 6.25x to a 7x cherry plate stabilizer. I have changed my mind since I'll have some nice keysets by then :)
My 2nd choice would still be an ISO125 then. Third stays the same.
updated
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 26 January 2013, 17:41:41
Hey Prof, Are you able to get any PBC mount MX locks?
PCB? yes those will be in the next GB for GH60 stuff.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 26 January 2013, 17:43:04
Hey Prof. I just wanted to check to see if my order was set. I believe I put it in before you took out the plates but I also wanted to get some other stuff from you. Thanks.
I have 1 7x stab set down for you.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 26 January 2013, 17:43:58
Yeah I had an order of stabilizers and plates with you but want to make sure I'm still going to receive the stabs since you moved the plates GB over to WFD.
yea ive got you down for 2 7x stab sets
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 26 January 2013, 17:47:27
GB ENDS TODAY!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 26 January 2013, 17:58:17
Please don't shoot me, but is there a spreadsheet to allow us to confirm what we ordered?  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 26 January 2013, 18:00:18
Please don't shoot me, but is there a spreadsheet to allow us to confirm what we ordered?  :-[
there will be once orders are closed
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 26 January 2013, 18:04:42
Please don't shoot me, but is there a spreadsheet to allow us to confirm what we ordered?  :-[
there will be once orders are closed

And if we need to make adjustments, that's OK?  :-\

If you can't tell by now... you're my first








Group Buy that is. LOL!  :p
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 26 January 2013, 18:09:28
Please don't shoot me, but is there a spreadsheet to allow us to confirm what we ordered?  :-[
there will be once orders are closed

And if we need to make adjustments, that's OK?  :-\

If you can't tell by now... you're my first








Group Buy that is. LOL!  :p
yep you can make adjustments and need to pay withing  7 days of when this GB closes
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 27 January 2013, 10:36:46
form closed
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 27 January 2013, 11:42:23
You can view your order here please pm me if you need to change anything http://tinyurl.com/afxd5o8
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 29 January 2013, 06:18:51
yep you can make adjustments and need to pay withing  7 days of when this GB closes


Okay, so do we now wait for the usual Paypal bill to arrive into our accounts?  First time I'm actually wanting to pay before the 7 day deadline.  :))
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Taking Orders)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 29 January 2013, 07:35:19
yep you can make adjustments and need to pay withing  7 days of when this GB closes


Okay, so do we now wait for the usual Paypal bill to arrive into our accounts?  First time I'm actually wanting to pay before the 7 day deadline.  :))
yep
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: Leewei on Tue, 29 January 2013, 09:52:22
Hey prof, last change. Can you add cherry stem 7x set for me and a single mx grey.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 29 January 2013, 11:51:53
I don't remember if if was part of the questions, but did we have to specify where the LEDs were placed? If so could I confirm where I chose?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 30 January 2013, 15:12:17
Hey prof, last change. Can you add cherry stem 7x set for me and a single mx grey.
done
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 30 January 2013, 15:13:28
I don't remember if if was part of the questions, but did we have to specify where the LEDs were placed? If so could I confirm where I chose?
nope never had that on there was planning to put where the led holes were on the case
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 30 January 2013, 15:14:10
Im going to start sending out invoices today if you need your order changed at all contact me asap
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 30 January 2013, 15:33:39
I don't remember if if was part of the questions, but did we have to specify where the LEDs were placed? If so could I confirm where I chose?
nope never had that on there was planning to put where the led holes were on the case
Is it possible to have them under their respective keys?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 30 January 2013, 15:35:09
I don't remember if if was part of the questions, but did we have to specify where the LEDs were placed? If so could I confirm where I chose?
nope never had that on there was planning to put where the led holes were on the case
Is it possible to have them under their respective keys?
sure just let me know and ill add it to you assembly notes
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: Gupgup on Wed, 30 January 2013, 15:40:39
Please change my PLU87 browns back to reds.. made up my mind!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 30 January 2013, 15:42:25
I don't remember if if was part of the questions, but did we have to specify where the LEDs were placed? If so could I confirm where I chose?
nope never had that on there was planning to put where the led holes were on the case
Is it possible to have them under their respective keys?
sure just let me know and ill add it to you assembly notes
Awesome, please and TY. :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 31 January 2013, 15:43:06
Please change my PLU87 browns back to reds.. made up my mind!
updated
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 31 January 2013, 18:33:30
Any idea when will Mx-clear be in stock ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 January 2013, 19:02:22
September 2013. I'm not kidding. :(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: AKIMbO on Thu, 31 January 2013, 19:05:41
^Wow.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 31 January 2013, 19:07:56
Yeah, I just read through the latest updates to 7bit's thread at DT yesterday. Cherry is reeling right now. They can't keep up with the demand.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 31 January 2013, 19:35:40
Yeah, I just read through the latest updates to 7bit's thread at DT yesterday. Cherry is reeling right now. They can't keep up with the demand.

**Cough** ALPS **Cough**
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 31 January 2013, 19:41:21
Yeah, I just read through the latest updates to 7bit's thread at DT yesterday. Cherry is reeling right now. They can't keep up with the demand.

**Cough** ALPS **Cough**

Yep my northgate omnikey with dampened white switchss is looking pretty good right now!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: inteli722 on Thu, 31 January 2013, 19:42:36
Yeah, I just read through the latest updates to 7bit's thread at DT yesterday. Cherry is reeling right now. They can't keep up with the demand.

**Cough** ALPS **Cough**

Yep my northgate omnikey with dampened white switchss is looking pretty good right now!

I don't think ALPs work with the Phantom for whatever reason. Don't quote me, though.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: Kabuks on Thu, 31 January 2013, 19:51:04
TheProfosist can you get an update on the earliest that the MX clears will be ready? If its more then 3 months I'll want to change my order.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: Gupgup on Thu, 31 January 2013, 19:56:15
Yeah, I just read through the latest updates to 7bit's thread at DT yesterday. Cherry is reeling right now. They can't keep up with the demand.

**Cough** ALPS **Cough**

Yep my northgate omnikey with dampened white switchss is looking pretty good right now!

I don't think ALPs work with the Phantom for whatever reason. Don't quote me, though.

Ohh no, I meant that I'd just be using this keyboard since I have no option for getting clears, not that I would use those switches for my phantom board :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 31 January 2013, 23:11:49
Yeah, I just read through the latest updates to 7bit's thread at DT yesterday. Cherry is reeling right now. They can't keep up with the demand.

**Cough** ALPS **Cough**

Yep my northgate omnikey with dampened white switchss is looking pretty good right now!

I don't think ALPs work with the Phantom for whatever reason. Don't quote me, though.

I mean while people are jumping on the bandwagon for Cherry, we should start doing Alps projects :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: Jupiter on Thu, 31 January 2013, 23:28:34
Any update on when we could expect these invoices?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 01 February 2013, 00:14:45
Think Prof said he's started them.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: 7bit on Fri, 01 February 2013, 01:13:52
Any idea when will Mx-clear be in stock ?
The only switch which will not be delivered within around a month are the 108 MXBLACK so if you orered these, either the Profosist must find another source, or they can be made from what remains from an Ergoclear mod.

MXCLEAR is ordred and will be delivered within a month.
MXWHITE is in stock.
MXLOCK will be the variant with pins (just cut them off), because these will not reach the MOQ of 1000 switches.

Thanks for all your many orders.

:-)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 01 February 2013, 01:26:21
Any idea when will Mx-clear be in stock ?
The only switch which will not be delivered within around a month are the 108 MXBLACK so if you orered these, either the Profosist must find another source, or they can be made from what remains from an Ergoclear mod.

MXCLEAR is ordred and will be delivered within a month.
MXWHITE is in stock.
MXLOCK will be the variant with pins (just cut them off), because these will not reach the MOQ of 1000 switches.

Thanks for all your many orders.

:-)
Great! Thank you !
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: Jupiter on Fri, 01 February 2013, 02:20:41
Think Prof said he's started them.

Sweet. Got my Paypal all loaded up and ready to pay people!

Any idea when will Mx-clear be in stock ?
The only switch which will not be delivered within around a month are the 108 MXBLACK so if you orered these, either the Profosist must find another source, or they can be made from what remains from an Ergoclear mod.

MXCLEAR is ordred and will be delivered within a month.
MXWHITE is in stock.
MXLOCK will be the variant with pins (just cut them off), because these will not reach the MOQ of 1000 switches.

Thanks for all your many orders.

:-)

Greens all the way ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: sleepy916 on Fri, 01 February 2013, 02:38:10
I put down 1 for desoldering of PLU-87 switches even though I bought a QFR and sent it to your place. I figured the charge would be the same to desolder the switches off the QFR. I hope that is correct.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 01 February 2013, 02:51:16
Any idea when will Mx-clear be in stock ?
The only switch which will not be delivered within around a month are the 108 MXBLACK so if you orered these, either the Profosist must find another source, or they can be made from what remains from an Ergoclear mod.

MXCLEAR is ordred and will be delivered within a month.
MXWHITE is in stock.
MXLOCK will be the variant with pins (just cut them off), because these will not reach the MOQ of 1000 switches.

Thanks for all your many orders.

:-)

Gasp! The 7bit? Here? In GH? Amazing!

I hope all these orders mean cheaper on future orders :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 01 February 2013, 12:40:05
invoices are going out today (I have already started ;) )
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Form Closed)
Post by: Gupgup on Fri, 01 February 2013, 13:50:59
Hey prof since the time for clears is only going to be a month, please add 100 to my order!

I hope it's not to late, I just saw 7bits post
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Amarok on Fri, 01 February 2013, 15:16:02
Hey Prof, there were a couple of errors with my invoice. I sent you a PM regarding what needs to be fixed. Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 01 February 2013, 15:21:14
Hey Prof, there were a couple of errors with my invoice. I sent you a PM regarding what needs to be fixed. Thank you!
yep i pmd you back
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 01 February 2013, 15:48:44
Is all invoice sent out? Haven't receive mine
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 01 February 2013, 16:02:02
Is all invoice sent out? Haven't receive mine
lol no im doing them in the order that people ordered I think im on like 10 or so
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 01 February 2013, 16:13:41
Is all invoice sent out? Haven't receive mine
lol no im doing them in the order that people ordered I think im on like 10 or so

Alright! just worried if my order dropped off
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 01 February 2013, 16:17:03
Is all invoice sent out? Haven't receive mine
lol no im doing them in the order that people ordered I think im on like 10 or so

Alright! just worried if my order dropped off
I will post when i have all of the invoices out
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 01 February 2013, 16:21:54
Is all invoice sent out? Haven't receive mine
lol no im doing them in the order that people ordered I think im on like 10 or so

Alright! just worried if my order dropped off
I will post when i have all of the invoices out

Alright thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 01 February 2013, 16:54:12
thanks Prof
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 01 February 2013, 16:55:56
Today's keyboard purchases are raping my wallet.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 February 2013, 17:47:52
Would be nice if the invoice was itemized.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Fri, 01 February 2013, 17:48:42
Would be nice if the invoice was itemized.
They are. Super nice and broken down by parts and count.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 01 February 2013, 17:55:45
Would be nice if the invoice was itemized.

Would be nice if the invoice was itemized.
They are. Super nice and broken down by parts and count.


yea... i broke them down the best i could, at least I thought?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Fri, 01 February 2013, 17:57:12
Would be nice if the invoice was itemized.

Would be nice if the invoice was itemized.
They are. Super nice and broken down by parts and count.


yea... i broke them down the best i could, at least I thought?
I liked it. Probably the easiest to read invoice I've ever had.
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Gupgup on Fri, 01 February 2013, 18:03:05
Yes very good invoicing, made changes almost right away!

Thanks Prof!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 01 February 2013, 18:09:02
Would be nice if the invoice was itemized.

Would be nice if the invoice was itemized.
They are. Super nice and broken down by parts and count.

yea... i broke them down the best i could, at least I thought?

It was perfect and now my invoice is perfectly PAID.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 01 February 2013, 19:10:29
Thank you Prof. Paid! Remember to send it to Alaric. Cheers
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 01 February 2013, 19:15:27
Thank you Prof. Paid! Remember to send it to Alaric. Cheers
yes ill follow the notes left with your order
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 01 February 2013, 19:18:08
Thank you Prof. Paid! Remember to send it to Alaric. Cheers
yes ill follow the notes left with your order

Thank you!!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 February 2013, 20:35:42

yea... i broke them down the best i could, at least I thought?

Yes, you did, it just wasn't showing up on the mobile version.  Unfortunately my invoice doesn't seem to include my late addition from PM :(

EDIT: Oh wait a minute, it does include the red switches, but my clear switches are gone!!  :'(  If I can't order the clears, I'm going to have to drastically change my order dude.  What happened?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 01 February 2013, 20:45:40

yea... i broke them down the best i could, at least I thought?

Yes, you did, it just wasn't showing up on the mobile version.  Unfortunately my invoice doesn't seem to include my late addition from PM :(

EDIT: Oh wait a minute, it does include the red switches, but my clear switches are gone!!  :'(  If I can't order the clears, I'm going to have to drastically change my order dude.  What happened?
added it was in your order looks like i just missed it when I mad the invoice. you should have gotten an updated invoice.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 February 2013, 20:46:12
thanks bud, got it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 01 February 2013, 20:47:00
also this is why I ask you to check your order before paying as i may have missed something doing all of these at once was quite a task


BTW all invoices are now out!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 01 February 2013, 20:56:05
Prof, I only bought switches from you the rest I cancelled.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 01 February 2013, 21:00:50
Prof, I only bought switches from you the rest I cancelled.
did you get a second invoice? yea sorry I didnt notice you had filled out the form 2x so i just made another invoice Ill cancel it if thats the case
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 01 February 2013, 21:04:51
Paid, but I didn't realize the actual order was wrong till just now..... but technically, it's for the right amount. I'm an idiot. PM'd.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 01 February 2013, 21:05:55
Prof, I only bought switches from you the rest I cancelled.
did you get a second invoice? yea sorry I didnt notice you had filled out the form 2x so i just made another invoice Ill cancel it if thats the case

Yea, sorry. Thank you anyway
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Fri, 01 February 2013, 21:17:03
I received an invoice but it only lists the stabilizers I ordered. I originally ordered plates through here and then I had to order them again through WFD's thread which I believe had an order form that was managed by you. That thread still states in the OP that he won't be managing payment. Also, that thread's title has changed to "Invoicing" status.

1. What's the status on plates? Should my invoice include them or should I expect a separate invoice. If the invoice is separate, who will that come from?
2. Will my two 7x stabilizer orders both come with the correctly bent wires? Who is making the wires?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Fri, 01 February 2013, 21:38:51
Received the invoice an paid! Can't wait :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Leewei on Fri, 01 February 2013, 21:53:51
Paid. Thanks Prof!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Kabuks on Fri, 01 February 2013, 22:02:17
Paid! :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Sat, 02 February 2013, 01:04:48
Paid!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Sat, 02 February 2013, 03:35:53
Paid
BUT in my invoice stabilizers are missing why?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 02 February 2013, 06:53:01
Just PAID as well.  If stabilizers are given, please can I have some as well for the Spacer-bar, Shifts, Backspace, Enter keys.

Or isn't it required yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 02 February 2013, 13:46:41
please do NOT pay unless your order is 100% correct, please contact me is something needs to be corrected
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 02 February 2013, 13:58:32
Prof, I only bought switches from you the rest I cancelled.
did you get a second invoice? yea sorry I didnt notice you had filled out the form 2x so i just made another invoice Ill cancel it if thats the case

Yea, sorry. Thank you anyway
Invoice canceled
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 02 February 2013, 14:04:48
Paid, but I didn't realize the actual order was wrong till just now..... but technically, it's for the right amount. I'm an idiot. PM'd.
replied
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 02 February 2013, 14:06:39
I received an invoice but it only lists the stabilizers I ordered. I originally ordered plates through here and then I had to order them again through WFD's thread which I believe had an order form that was managed by you. That thread still states in the OP that he won't be managing payment. Also, that thread's title has changed to "Invoicing" status.

1. What's the status on plates? Should my invoice include them or should I expect a separate invoice. If the invoice is separate, who will that come from?
2. Will my two 7x stabilizer orders both come with the correctly bent wires? Who is making the wires?
WFD has the plate orders he broke those off into a separate GB you should be getting a invoice from him

yes they will come with the correct wires WFD will be the on bending them
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 02 February 2013, 14:11:32
Paid
BUT in my invoice stabilizers are missing why?
sorry must have missed those when making the invoice, sent you another to cover those, sorry about the mess.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 02 February 2013, 14:14:22
Just PAID as well.  If stabilizers are given, please can I have some as well for the Spacer-bar, Shifts, Backspace, Enter keys.

Or isn't it required yet?

there is already a 7x set of stabilizers on you order/invoice which you paid, did you need more?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 02 February 2013, 14:32:15
all invoices have been updated, questions answered, and payments logged
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: AKIMbO on Sat, 02 February 2013, 16:26:29
Paid
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 02 February 2013, 17:07:10
Just PAID as well.  If stabilizers are given, please can I have some as well for the Spacer-bar, Shifts, Backspace, Enter keys.

Or isn't it required yet?

there is already a 7x set of stabilizers on you order/invoice which you paid, did you need more?

Thank you buddy, please ignore the idiot questions.  You can see I have never done this before - putting together a keyboard from scratch so that I would have everything.  I suspect I've forgotten something important and then this whole project will end up in the spare cupboard down in the basement.  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Sat, 02 February 2013, 21:35:09
pizzaid!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Sun, 03 February 2013, 01:32:52
all invoices have been updated, questions answered, and payments logged

Paid
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: agor on Mon, 04 February 2013, 04:18:14
Paid
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Mon, 04 February 2013, 14:55:50
Hey Prof,

I sent you a PM about my invoice missing black switches over the weekend but haven't heard back. Can you please update my invoice?  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Mon, 04 February 2013, 17:20:29
OI! TheProfosist I have PM'd you on both DT and GH without a response or payment. It was suggested to post here to get your attention. You are about to be considered a drop out in my Krytox GPL 200 GroupBuy.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 04 February 2013, 17:53:40
Prof, On my invoice, it says MX clear. I wanted to switch to MX white please. Will you send me another invoice? Or should I pay for this one?

Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Mon, 04 February 2013, 23:01:40
I might have missed it but does anybody have the rough estimate of when everything should be done? I know invoices are still going out for some things so it will be a while.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Mon, 04 February 2013, 23:46:32
I might have missed it but does anybody have the rough estimate of when everything should be done? I know invoices are still going out for some things so it will be a while.

I don't think a time has been mentioned yet, except for the long wait expected for backordered switches
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: gizzard on Tue, 05 February 2013, 01:18:43
Paid.. But think my switches were missing

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: tubby on Tue, 05 February 2013, 05:46:05
BTW all invoices are now out!!!
Prof, I don't seem to have received an invoice from you. Could you kindly try resending it? Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: okooko on Wed, 06 February 2013, 06:43:09
Paid.

Ill msg WFD so he'll send my plate to you Prof.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Wed, 06 February 2013, 21:19:22
Has anyone heard from Prof? I'm still waiting for a response about the missing switches from my invoice. I was kind of holding off paying until they were added.  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 06 February 2013, 21:30:25
Im currently SUPER busy with school. You all should be hearing from me tomorrow night after my last class is done for the week, dont expect to hear from me until then. i will do my best to solve all problems promptly.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Thu, 07 February 2013, 13:50:55
Thanks for giving us an update, Prof!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 07 February 2013, 14:18:40
No prob!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 08 February 2013, 16:55:53
Payments extended to mon since I havnt had time to reply to everyone by friday.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Fri, 08 February 2013, 17:21:53
Thanks prof. I think I might be hanging on to my phantom because I don't like the block style winkeyless KMACs very much.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 12 February 2013, 19:35:44
Payments extended to mon since I havnt had time to reply to everyone by friday.

I have yet to receive a response.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Sun, 17 February 2013, 07:56:06
Can I switch one board to clear mx?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 17 February 2013, 10:26:54
TheProfosistststest, are you even still alive :x
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 17 February 2013, 13:08:33
Yeah I've been wondering about this also.  Is this stuff supposed to ship soon?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Mon, 18 February 2013, 05:47:25
At my side, I've packed most of the switches.

Just wait for the payment ....
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 18 February 2013, 06:07:05
Yes im alive there are about 10 people who havnt paid their invoices yet. I will be applying changes today and resending those invoices. Once i receive payment from everyone i will pay 7bit and order the other parts that are needed.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 18 February 2013, 06:29:48
Yes im alive there are about 10 people who havnt paid their invoices yet. I will be applying changes today and resending those invoices. Once i receive payment from everyone i will pay 7bit and order the other parts that are needed.

Hey, take care of your schooling first and get those assignments completed.  Deal with Geekhack lastly.  I have already paid but I'm not one of those A**holes who insist on getting my item sent as early as possible.  Take care of yourself first then deal with the rest of us.

Geekhack can suck the life out of you, if you let it.  Hence get your priorities in check before listening to the whingers and whiners on here.

I'm happy to ............wait......... but poor 7bit, may have other opinions.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: kmiller8 on Mon, 18 February 2013, 07:40:31
Yes im alive there are about 10 people who havnt paid their invoices yet. I will be applying changes today and resending those invoices. Once i receive payment from everyone i will pay 7bit and order the other parts that are needed.

I'm one of those 10, I sent you a PM over two weeks ago about modifying my order :x
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Gupgup on Mon, 18 February 2013, 09:22:00
Yes im alive there are about 10 people who havnt paid their invoices yet. I will be applying changes today and resending those invoices. Once i receive payment from everyone i will pay 7bit and order the other parts that are needed.

Hey, take care of your schooling first and get those assignments completed.  Deal with Geekhack lastly.  I have already paid but I'm not one of those A**holes who insist on getting my item sent as early as possible.  Take care of yourself first then deal with the rest of us.

Geekhack can suck the life out of you, if you let it.  Hence get your priorities in check before listening to the whingers and whiners on here.

I'm happy to ............wait......... but poor 7bit, may have other opinions.

I wouldn't call these people a**holes, seems pretty strong for just wanting something in the mail haha.

I do agree that he should put school first, but you didn't really need to say that :p
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 18 February 2013, 09:54:58

I wouldn't call these people a**holes, seems pretty strong for just wanting something in the mail haha.


You may be right there.  The correct wording might be disagreeable, difficult, troublesome......... but that would describe nearly everyone here.

I think placing any undue pressure on the organizer is what I'm thinking here.  Anytime, anyone wants to try and deride the Group Buy by placing themselves ahead of anyone's education really shows their own immaturity and narrow focus upon themselves.

Remember someone has taken a GREAT length of their own time in organizing a Group Buy to not only bring a little "Bling" to our keyboards but to also get us stuff that we all to frequently can not get on our own.  Usually any Group Buy takes on average between 2 to 4 months to complete depending on the complexity of the order handed over to SP.

But now we have certain individuals who suddenly think that once they hand over their money on Monday that SP will be pouring the plastic on Tuesday for them to receive their keys by Wednesday.  Truly a fanciful story I just told but that is how some of them understand how this process works.

Just give everyone an even break.  The keys will get made and sent out when they get them.  Everyone will know when that will happen because these guys will keep us informed on the progress.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Mon, 18 February 2013, 11:11:11
I'm one of those that hasn't paid yet either. Still waiting for Prof to make the modifications to my invoice. I've got the funds standing by ready to go, but no worries, I'm not one of those people that is focused on getting things as quickly as possible plus some things just need to be placed at a higher priority than others, especially schooling.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Tue, 19 February 2013, 16:21:27
Yes im alive there are about 10 people who havnt paid their invoices yet. I will be applying changes today and resending those invoices. Once i receive payment from everyone i will pay 7bit and order the other parts that are needed.

Could you let me know if you got my pm?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Sat, 23 February 2013, 01:26:11
Prof.
Can i still switch my Brown MX order to clears?

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: kmiller8 on Sat, 23 February 2013, 09:40:19
Three weeks now...

Will my invoice ever be updated?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 23 February 2013, 15:24:20
Three weeks now...

Will my invoice ever be updated?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 23 February 2013, 15:44:57
Nope never muhuhahahaha
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: AKIMbO on Sat, 23 February 2013, 15:57:05
Nope never muhuhahahaha

Holy ish...Prof is back!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Sat, 23 February 2013, 18:42:57
Nope never muhuhahahaha

Holy ish...Prof is back!
School didn't kill him! +20EXP
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 24 February 2013, 19:42:09
i have replied to all pms and emails and all remaining invoices have been updated and resent please pay up ASAP
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Sun, 24 February 2013, 20:58:31
Payment sent. One down, nine more to go.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 26 February 2013, 20:17:35
We're coming up on a month since invoices.  Time to cut 'em loose.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Fri, 01 March 2013, 00:34:50
Prof, when will you start building these? Did everyone paid yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Fri, 01 March 2013, 02:04:40
i have replied to all pms and emails and all remaining invoices have been updated and resent please pay up ASAP

Still waiting for your reply ...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 01 March 2013, 14:26:26
Hi Prof,

For all of us who paid about a month ago, when should we expect our parts?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 01 March 2013, 14:41:57
Soon™ Elite Keyboards Style.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 01 March 2013, 15:03:04
Have you sort it out ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 01 March 2013, 15:03:43
Have you sort it out ?

??? What?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 01 March 2013, 17:31:53
I sent 200 bucks and I'm starting to worry about it...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 01 March 2013, 17:34:36
Have you sort it out ?

??? What?

Prof said he havent receive my payment while I did paid and have the transaction receipt
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 02 March 2013, 23:13:56
Prof, i respect you are busy, when i was in college and working i had zero time for anything; your contributions are highly appreciated.

but if you could at least confirm that payments are closed, issues resolved, and the switches and parts have been ordered or an ETA on when they will be ordered it would make me feel better and some other people here feel better.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Sun, 03 March 2013, 04:54:50
He sent me message yesterday, so it seems he is still alive. Hope did not get into winter hibernation again, but woke up for real and tell me how many switches to send and also pay for them ...

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 06 March 2013, 10:15:12
Is it possible at all to change my order of red switches to brown or clear?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 10 March 2013, 22:53:40
Prof, when will you start building these? Did everyone paid yet?
I cant build until i have these parts and well the PCBs which arnt under my control but should be proceeding smoothly
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 10 March 2013, 22:55:41
I sent 200 bucks and I'm starting to worry about it...
dont worry all the money from everyone is still sitting in my account aside from the little that has been sent to 7bit already
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 10 March 2013, 22:56:38
I sent 200 bucks and I'm starting to worry about it...
dont worry all the money from everyone is still sitting in my account aside from the little that has been sent to 7bit already

Thanks for the update I appreciate it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 10 March 2013, 22:57:24
He sent me message yesterday, so it seems he is still alive. Hope did not get into winter hibernation again, but woke up for real and tell me how many switches to send and also pay for them ...


sent you a pm about the rest of the switches
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 10 March 2013, 22:58:53
Is it possible at all to change my order of red switches to brown or clear?
sure clears would be easiest to switch to i think?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 10 March 2013, 23:07:11
Is it possible at all to change my order of red switches to brown or clear?
sure clears would be easiest to switch to i think?

Don't worry about it  Order is sent, no sense in rocking the boat.  Thanks, though.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 12 March 2013, 15:50:33
hi prof, have you checked it? you said i havent pay yet which i did.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Kabuks on Tue, 12 March 2013, 17:36:15
If we ordered Mx clears is there an update as to when they will be ready?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Tue, 12 March 2013, 17:40:37
Any word on when the parts will be ready/shipped?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 12 March 2013, 19:26:46
They haven't even been ordered yet.  I'm not sure why, but it's going to be a while before they are shipped.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Tue, 12 March 2013, 20:27:28
Urgh, okay. I have to get used to the slowness of Geekhack :(
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 12 March 2013, 21:48:24
Urgh, okay. I have to get used to the slowness of Geekhack :(
This buy is overly slow. Most buys go quicker, sadly.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 12 March 2013, 21:49:48
sorry should have pressed people to pay and cut them off sooner
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: bavman on Tue, 12 March 2013, 21:51:21
Do you have a time estimate prof for when you'll put the order in and approximate lead time?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: isman on Wed, 13 March 2013, 10:30:28
sorry should have pressed people to pay and cut them off sooner

I wish I paid already, but I still didn't get any invoice :(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 13 March 2013, 10:45:20
hi prof, have you checked it? you said i havent pay yet which i did.
Why do I feel like everytime I asked about my payment I get ignored? Do you mind to reply? You told me I haven't paid in pm and you stopped replied after I provide you the paypal transaction number.i just need a answer that's all.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 14 March 2013, 03:02:47
Have pbc been made and shipped to you yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 17 March 2013, 17:50:26
I only ordered 2 sets of 7x stabilizer kits. How is shipping for these going to be handled? Is WFD making the wires so that these can actually be included with the PCB and Plate shipment or are these going to go out separately? I'm trying to sell my Phantom sets since I need to move on from mechanical keyboards and this is a little detail that I would like to get resolved as quickly as possible. The invoice I paid didn't include a shipping charge so I just need to get some clarification.

Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 17 March 2013, 18:50:24
I'll try to pick up his slack on the cherry stabilizers since he gets those from me anyways. But if you ordered switches or a keyboard from him, that's out of my control. PCBs are out of my control as well, I'm sure bavman will update you guys once he receives them.

Not sure why Prof left this GB dormant for so long.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 17 March 2013, 19:31:15
I'll try to pick up his slack on the cherry stabilizers since he gets those from me anyways. But if you ordered switches or a keyboard from him, that's out of my control. PCBs are out of my control as well, I'm sure bavman will update you guys once he receives them.

Not sure why Prof left this GB dormant for so long.

I only ordered the stabs from him but I thought you were going to be making them from some of the information that had come out earlier in the GB. Ideally the stabs I ordered can be shipped with the plates to bavman so the PCBs, Plates and Stabs can all go out as one package.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Denonic on Thu, 21 March 2013, 18:43:53
Prof I'm still waiting on an invoice for a plu.  Not sure if my pm got lost in your most likely overflowing inbox =P
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: BimboBB on Tue, 26 March 2013, 10:53:19
Any news here? Become a little bit worried about these long silence breaks.  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 26 March 2013, 10:54:35
I keep trying to get him to be a bit more active on GH, but he's not budging. I have a copy of the spread sheet, so when parts do come in to him (if worse comes to worse) I can take over, though this buy looks a lot like R4, currently.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 26 March 2013, 11:09:36
But aren't we waiting on the PCBs to be shipped anyway?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: deSheol on Tue, 26 March 2013, 11:11:42
Good luck guys, has it been 45 days yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 26 March 2013, 11:20:54
There are about a dozen assembly orders,the rest is parts. So, there shouldn't have been such a hold up, though I'm not Prof's keeper nor speaker.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 26 March 2013, 12:38:07
He did replied me after I sent him a dispute in Paypal, he told me he's been really busy in real life and all the orders are confirmed and etc.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 26 March 2013, 19:44:36
Just FYI to everyone, I'm not Prof's contact. I know you are annoyed with this GB, as am I, but I have only so much time. :) (To everyone who has PM'd me prior, I will honor what you've asked me. :) )
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 26 March 2013, 22:10:53
I'd really like to know why the parts aren't ordered yet.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Kabuks on Tue, 26 March 2013, 22:14:49
I ordered clears for my LZ-GH but at this rate I would have probably been better off looking for them in the classifieds.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Tue, 26 March 2013, 23:11:30
I was concerned with how aggressive he was trying to make himself part of the Phantom GB from the start. The current situation is exactly why I had concerns. This isn't the first time this has happened with him either. He previously had a subforum and offered some services and got too busy to deal with them. He had caps lock keys that needed to be modded for quite a few months and other members got quite upset. Sorry Prof but you need to recognize what your limitations are and not exceed them. Communicate with the members here in this thread that have paid you money, myself included.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: okooko on Tue, 26 March 2013, 23:18:36
Anytime I've ever PM'd TheProf for anything, he has replied pretty much right away. From my experiences dealing with him, its been very positive.
This GB requires a good amount of coordination and work and props to all the people behind it.

As far as I'm concerned, updates would be nice although as Mashby mentionned that the PCBs are yet to be done so there is a bit of time left to get all the part orders done.
I, along with many others I'm sure, would like to have a discussion with TheProf regarding various things but I guess I'll do it when the time comes closer.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Tue, 26 March 2013, 23:33:05
The original interest check mentioned that this service would close 7 days after the PCB GB closed. I believe he extended it and then it took a bit to get everyone paid up. At that point everything should have been ordered to minimize delays.

Last update I saw said the PCB shipping notification was received.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 27 March 2013, 00:01:56
Well, it's too late to file a dispute... I'll just ask nicely for a refund and source the switches from 7bit directly.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Wed, 27 March 2013, 00:40:06
I also just sent him a pm.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Wed, 27 March 2013, 03:05:46
All I'd like is some information as to what's happening.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 27 March 2013, 13:18:29
Well, it's too late to file a dispute... I'll just ask nicely for a refund and source the switches from 7bit directly.

Hmm..might do the same thing as you..
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 27 March 2013, 13:34:08
Prof has told me that refunds will not happen. I have no idea what is going on either guys.
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: iArson on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:04:18
Is there any reason he's not the one telling us this?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:06:22
No clue. I'm trying to get him to update things. First it was school, then no desktop, now it's just that everyone shouldn't worry and he doesn't care that people are annoyed. :/
Title: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: iArson on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:10:54
Interesting.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:11:26
Join the club. Interesting...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Michael on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:27:25
I have a SS of him lurking this thread last night. Kind of lame to not respond. Sound exactly like the crap sherry pulls. When the heat gets hot, HIDE!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:29:17
I agree Bro Caps. I agree.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:46:54

1) WFD and Smallfry seem to be on the ball.  If they are willing and able, I think they should take over.
2) Assuming that doesn't happen, I want either proof that the parts have been ordered, a refund, or a plan that details an exact timeline for completion that is measured in single-digit days.
3) Assuming that doesn't happen, sanctions should be applied to the account and I will attempt to extract a refund in RL.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: blighty on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:52:49
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Glad I only ordered Cherry stabs. LOL
How long until a "kind" soul posts prof's personal info, so the lynch mob knows where to show up
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:55:38
I'm already getting PMs for me to ship plates directly instead of shipping it to Prof, so it's probably best I'll manage the plate and cherry stabilizers/wires. He's getting those directly from me anyways.

But you guys are on your own for orders of switches, PLU keyboards, and refunds. That's not something I can control.
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 27 March 2013, 14:56:33

1) WFD and Smallfry seem to be on the ball.  If they are willing and able, I think they should take over.
2) Assuming that doesn't happen, I want either proof that the parts have been ordered, a refund, or a plan that details an exact timeline for completion that is measured in single-digit days.
3) Assuming that doesn't happen, sanctions should be applied to the account and I will attempt to extract a refund in RL.
I'm trying to stay out of running this thing, if at all possible and I will not release personal info on him. I will, however, keep pestering him.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 27 March 2013, 16:10:53
now it's just that everyone shouldn't worry and he doesn't care that people are annoyed. :/

Total lack of integrity right there.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 27 March 2013, 19:39:52
I have gone through all of the invoices and updated the spreadsheet the below people are the people who I have complete orders for and have paid and will be receiving their items. I am not taking any more orders adding or removing people as parts have been ready to be sent to me for some time.

Code: [Select]
Acetrak
affect656
agor
AKIMbO
Amarok
Amr0d
AriesX
bavman
Binge
bisl
blighty
cgbuen
csimi
Elrick
FabsSpeed
FabsSpeed
Gameaholic
Germiphene
gizzard
Glod
Gupgup
isman
Jupiter
Kabuks
Keebo27
kmiller8
KuhnTang
Leewei
mashby
metafour
metalliqaz
nebo
Okooko
olaph
Oproer
Paranoid
pasph
r3dx
reality404
Rendom
rosh
Slavfot
sleepy916
Soulpyre
TheProfosist
TheQsanity
theultrazord
zyth3x


7bit has had the switches ready, some even packed for some time. I completed payment last week and now since the spreadsheet has been finalized he now has the final numbers of switches that everyone ordered.

The total number of cherry spacebar wires has also been sent to WFD in my latest pm to him, the last 3 I sent to him I never got a response to over the past few weeks but hes probably busy as well.

As soon as i get confirmation from WFD that he can produce that number of spacebar wires i will order the stabilizers from their respective sources along with the leds and resistors.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 27 March 2013, 19:54:13
Thanks that was a great update. Much appreciated.  Definitely could have saves some consternation if those orders were announced.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Kabuks on Wed, 27 March 2013, 19:58:56
Thanks for the update Prof.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Amarok on Wed, 27 March 2013, 20:42:54
Hooray. :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: cgbuen on Thu, 28 March 2013, 02:43:55
PM'd about my ErgoDox assembly + the parts I ordered from this GB. Hope you can get to it soon.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 28 March 2013, 10:28:44
Please excuse this threadcrap post while I pimp my gb  ;)

While we wait for everything to arrive and for the assembly to begin, I've put together a group buy for Silver Metallic Phantom Stickers (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41486.0). Shadovved is making them, so they will look much like his other stickers (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40240.0).

I did a hack job in PhotoShop to give some idea what they might look like. If you're having a Phantom assembled, please consider joining this group buy.

We now return you to your regular programming. LOL!

</ threadcrap>

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 28 March 2013, 10:39:56
Definitely on-topic, I'd say.  Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Amarok on Fri, 29 March 2013, 00:43:15
Please excuse this threadcrap post while I pimp my gb  ;)

While we wait for everything to arrive and for the assembly to begin, I've put together a group buy for Silver Metallic Phantom Stickers (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41486.0). Shadovved is making them, so they will look much like his other stickers (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40240.0).

I did a hack job in PhotoShop to give some idea what they might look like. If you're having a Phantom assembled, please consider joining this group buy.

We now return you to your regular programming. LOL!

</ threadcrap>

Buy these! I bought a million! (five)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 29 March 2013, 07:25:46
Well, since two people have said this isn't threadcrapping, I'll post one more photo.

I just received a 1/4 render from kaporkle (http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20953) that just blew me away. Here it is.

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 30 March 2013, 13:08:08
To these people, where please PM me with where you would like your PCB to go. I don't know if people still want their PCB to go to Prof pending the recent stuff with the GB.  I don't know if people want their PCB shipped to Prof, WFD, myself, or to the owner of said PCB.
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Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 30 March 2013, 15:20:03
To these people, where please PM me with where you would like your PCB to go. I don't know if people still want their PCB to go to Prof pending the recent stuff with the GB.  I don't know if people want their PCB shipped to Prof, WFD, myself, or to the owner of said PCB.
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no need really only a small fraction of those people are actually getting their phantoms built buy us and i believe ill only be receiving those PCBs and parts

Edit: didnt see you edited the list. Also I do have the final speadsheet if you want it you never asked really....


Also since i have already been paid and parts are on order doing what SF suggests seems illogical, at least to me...


Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 30 March 2013, 15:32:41
Dude you're alive. If you don't even have time to mange orders or answer questions, how are you going to have time to go over details on building people's keyboards, or coordinate shipping them all out? I'll send out all the stuff you're suppose to get from me once you confirm what I PMed you.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 30 March 2013, 15:55:04
To these people, where please PM me with where you would like your PCB to go. I don't know if people still want their PCB to go to Prof pending the recent stuff with the GB.  I don't know if people want their PCB shipped to Prof, WFD, myself, or to the owner of said PCB.
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no need really only a small fraction of those people are actually getting their phantoms built buy us and i believe ill only be receiving those PCBs and parts

Edit: didnt see you edited the list. Also I do have the final speadsheet if you want it you never asked really....


Also since i have already been paid and parts are on order doing what SF suggests seems illogical, at least to me...



It's not SF. :P Also, you have been MIA for all purposes, which would make people nervous in terms of a GB, so I was trying to help people out.
WFD, are you still taking the PCBs until further notice?
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 31 March 2013, 01:14:59
Dude you're alive. If you don't even have time to mange orders or answer questions, how are you going to have time to go over details on building people's keyboards, or coordinate shipping them all out? I'll send out all the stuff you're suppose to get from me once you confirm what I PMed you.
i just posted and pmd you 3 days ago. sorry i dont like my life on GH anymore. Though its not like i ever got a promt response from you until recently when you wanted to take over this GB.

I have all the details for all the boards already thats why i had everyone fill out that nice form when they signed up for the parts/services.

You should be receiving a pm soon.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Paranoid on Sun, 31 March 2013, 05:39:46
*message eeeeeeeeerased!*
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 04 April 2013, 17:57:34
Some updates:

Switches are on their way from 7bit as of this week.

The PLU-87 keyboards are fully paid for and on their way. They ended up being $10 more expensive than the original quote I got. Also shipping ended up being slightly more expensive either way I paid for them and their on there way here.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:01:10
Even though I sold off my Phantoms I just wanted to say thanks for the recent updates!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:10:52
Just a note if you need to contact me specifically please contact me directly and especially not through someone else. The best way is via email which is "myuser"@gmail.com . I will do my best to get you a reply within 24 hours. I posted this in the ErgoDox Assembly thread late last night and though i should cross post it here.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:25:16
Good to see things are moving along. Although it seems the plates are going to be holding things back for a little while.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 04 April 2013, 18:27:52
Good to see things are moving along. Although it seems the plates are going to be holding things back for a little while.
really though those would be right on time o wells itll be a bit any ways until i get the switches from germany and a little over a week until the PLU's show up from china.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 04 April 2013, 19:45:22
May I ask where my reply is? I haven't gotten one since Tuesday.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 04 April 2013, 20:56:57
May I ask where my reply is? I haven't gotten one since Tuesday.
Im working it out with everyone :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 04 April 2013, 23:13:26
Can you not multi-GChat? You were talking with another person while ignoring me simultaneously. I need that KMini of whomever's if you do not have time for it, like you had stated.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 05 April 2013, 09:01:43
Just a reminder that today is the final day to place your order for a Phantom sticker (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41486.0).

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8601209423_d357158f06.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52308907@N07/8601209423/)
phantom (http://www.flickr.com/photos/52308907@N07/8601209423/) by kaporkle (http://www.flickr.com/people/52308907@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: hluo87 on Tue, 09 April 2013, 12:28:38
just wondering
does anyone have extra Cherry 7x stabilizer set? I might need one for my board.
Also, can anyone tell me where I can buy this beside here?
Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 09 April 2013, 12:37:45
just wondering
does anyone have extra Cherry 7x stabilizer set? I might need one for my board.
Also, can anyone tell me where I can buy this beside here?
Thanks

You could order them (only) through the GH60 group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 10 April 2013, 23:07:56
hey guys going to be responding to emails and posts in mass tomorrow and hopefully some updates
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 12 April 2013, 12:51:03
so umm yea the FedEx guy just completely surprised me with like 10 PLU-87's which I had no clue were going to show up...


( pictures to come once I take inventory :D )
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:41:38
So when will you start assembling the boards ? Do you have all parts ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 12 April 2013, 13:48:33
So when will you start assembling the boards ? Do you have all parts ?
no currently I only have the PLU-87's here, which BTW came WAY quicker than i thought they would direct from China.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 12 April 2013, 14:01:04
Everything I've ordered from China has come within three days.  One was DHL the other was FedEx.  Shipping was about $22-26 bucks. 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Fri, 12 April 2013, 14:03:38
Everything I've ordered from China has come within three days.  One was DHL the other was FedEx.  Shipping was about $22-26 bucks. 
the shipping for the PLU's hurt MUCH more that that :(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 12 April 2013, 21:48:36
Yeah,  I don't doubt it,  my packages were small.  What I meant was, I have also been pleasantly surprised by the speed from China to my doorstep
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Mon, 22 April 2013, 10:11:39
Hi Prof,

I was just wondering if you had any new updates. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 23 April 2013, 15:43:07
Hopefully switches have arrived at least.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Amarok on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:03:56
If anyone wants to buy me out of this, send me a PM and we can discuss it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:14:26
I have been told that everything sans stabilizers is on it's way or in his hands. I have no idea other than that guys. Sorry.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Wed, 24 April 2013, 16:15:10
Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Wed, 24 April 2013, 20:45:37
Thanks SmallFry. Hopefully Prof will be able to ship this stuff out soon.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 26 April 2013, 20:03:23
Plates are in, where are my switches?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Fri, 26 April 2013, 20:56:36
As long as the switches/ stabs ship out around the same time as the pcbs/plates from bav, I'll be a happy chappy
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Amr0d on Mon, 29 April 2013, 01:34:35
Hey Prof

I sent you an email and lots of PMs regarding the shipping of my order (and some others that want their stuff delivered with my order) but you didn't respond so far. Can you please answer my PM.

Cheers
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 02 May 2013, 11:40:32
PROF!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:45:03
PROF!
yo dudes whats up? I have recovered and am getting back on this today. I have some more inventory that I havnt been able to update you about. Expect a update either late today or tomorrow once I have organized/figured/etc.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:50:25
Does this mean you're sending out all our orders?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Binge on Thu, 02 May 2013, 12:51:56
PROF!
yo dudes whats up? I have recovered and am getting back on this today. I have some more inventory that I havnt been able to update you about. Expect a update either late today or tomorrow once I have organized/figured/etc.

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37464870.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:24:29
Does this mean you're sending out all our orders?
some of them will go out soon, for the people that only ordered parts that is.
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 02 May 2013, 13:48:30
PROF!
yo dudes whats up? I have recovered and am getting back on this today. I have some more inventory that I havnt been able to update you about. Expect a update either late today or tomorrow once I have organized/figured/etc.

More
Show Image
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37464870.jpg)
Duuuuuuuuuuude awesome meme.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 02 May 2013, 16:10:24
Prof -- for those of us that ordered the assembly service, can we find out who the builder will be?

I PM'd you about this, but I'm betting you've been under a deluge of PMs.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 02 May 2013, 16:45:36
This is good news.  I have a hankerin' to build a Phantom... and then port my firmware to it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 02 May 2013, 16:49:22
gimme dat FW
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 02 May 2013, 17:09:03
gimme dat FW

You'll get it... with a keyboard wrapped around it.
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 02 May 2013, 17:23:35
Prof -- for those of us that ordered the assembly service, can we find out who the builder will be?

I PM'd you about this, but I'm betting you've been under a deluge of PMs.
I have requested to do your Phantom. We will see how this goes however.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 02 May 2013, 17:37:06
Is there any way to cancel the service and just get the parts shipped?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Fri, 03 May 2013, 22:59:45
Does this mean you're sending out all our orders?
some of them will go out soon, for the people that only ordered parts that is.

Sweeeeeet! I guess that means I might get everything around the same time :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 03 May 2013, 23:04:51
Prof, where's this update?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Mon, 06 May 2013, 09:06:54
Switches update? Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 06 May 2013, 09:48:22
I found him on IRC and he said that he is still receiving switches from 7bit.  Apparently they aren't being sent in one big package.  It isn't clear if 7bit has sent everything yet.  If he has not yet shipped to Prof, then there is no known ETA.

The stabs are in WFD's hands AFAIK.

I'm wondering about my PCB/plate as well...

I'd better use the crap out of this Phantom, if I ever get it together I'll feel like I've won a battle
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 06 May 2013, 09:57:10
I've been chatting with him via GChat at gotten the same message, 'qaz. I'll keep trying to get him to update this thread...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:36:36
everything  metalliqaz said is correct as of Sun May 5th at 1600
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 06 May 2013, 18:41:21
Which would be what? How many switches do you have? What keyboards do you have currently? Can you ship some of the orders as of now with the current parts? Where are the plates and PCBs?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:01:50
Do you have a separate document for the orders? The Google Docs doesn't seem like it has been updated. Have you recorded them somewhere else?

Again, are we able to cancel the assembly service?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:14:32
Which would be what? How many switches do you have? What keyboards do you have currently? Can you ship some of the orders as of now with the current parts? Where are the plates and PCBs?
I have 3 "bags" of switches. Until I have word back from 7bit I will not be commenting further on the switches.

there wouldnt be a point in me shipping you anything as I dont even have parts to finish one board yet.

As for the plates I havnt a clue I think WFD;s thread says their done or being done.

And PCBs bavman has them but I dont know any more than that i was sent a list of people who he said he was shipping to me and I replied with the people I had.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:32:34
Allow me to break this down, as your message is convoluted and confusing.
1)Which would be what?
2)How many switches do you have?
3)What keyboards do you have currently?
4)Can you ship some of the orders as of now with the current parts?
5)Where are the plates and PCBs?
1) What is the official update on EVERYTHING in the GB? This includes Phantom kits, plates, LEDs, PLUs, switches, resistors and I'm sure I'm forgetting parts.
2) 7Bit labels his switches with a scheme second to none (that I've seen from a GB organizers), please check your stock on hand, and totals in your spread sheet and see how many switches you are missing.
3) Are all the PLU keyboards you received the correct switch type for the orders?
4) Can you ship the orders to your GB participants (not me, as I'm not a participant) that did not order Phantom parts?
5) At last word, Bavman has your PCBs, so why are they not in the mail? Have you paid shipping etc?
I will not continue to sit by while you run this GB into the ground.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:34:42
Do you have a separate document for the orders? The Google Docs doesn't seem like it has been updated. Have you recorded them somewhere else?

Again, are we able to cancel the assembly service?
yes I have a modified and updated excel file on my PC what do you need from it?

I really dont know how to answer this really... I would like to say yes but I cannot refund you for the parts you have ordered through me because then I would be stuck with it all. As for the actual assembly service it self, thats why I made this GB initially was not to supply people with parts but to build their keyboards which is what I should have stuck with. At this time I really couldnt refund you.

If your worried about this not getting done dont worry it will as I have stopped most of my life to straighten this and other GH stuff out properly. On another note I will never be running another GB but will continue with assembly for those who want be to build their board but never a full blown service ever most likely.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:49:20
On another note I will never be running another GB but will continue with assembly for those who want be to build their board but never a full blown service ever most likely.

If you want to know why this hasn't been a good experience for you, it's because of lines like this:

Until I have word back from 7bit I will not be commenting further on the switches.

Good communication = good.  Secrecy + delays = bad.

SmallFry might be a bit pushy, but you could have made this a lot easier bro.  At this point it looks like we are mostly waiting for things to arrive.  I really don't know why you would have to rearrange your life simply to send money and post updates.  An hour at the PC a few days a week would be all it takes.

By the way everyone, if you haven't noticed 7bit is about 15% done packing Round4.  He's doing it morning noon and night, so he isn't sending out switches any time soon.  We just have to wait moar.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:50:39
I really dont know how to answer this really... I would like to say yes but I cannot refund you for the parts you have ordered through me because then I would be stuck with it all. As for the actual assembly service it self, thats why I made this GB initially was not to supply people with parts but to build their keyboards which is what I should have stuck with. At this time I really couldnt refund you.
I wouldn't cancel my order. I just want to make sure you had it right. You have not updated it since January. Do you mind Posting the Excel sheet so those of us that we can have a more accurate reference?

I was not able to make my own at the time but I am now able to make my own board. I obtained a soldering station since then.

If your worried about this not getting done dont worry it will as I have stopped most of my life to straighten this and other GH stuff out properly.
I trust you. If you need help organizing a GB just let us know:)
Title: Re: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 06 May 2013, 20:24:14
If your worried about this not getting done dont worry it will as I have stopped most of my life to straighten this and other GH stuff out properly.
I trust you. If you need help organizing a GB just let us know:)
I assure you he doesn't need help when he's trying to kick me out of the GB crew.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 06 May 2013, 23:06:00
Hey dude can you reply to the PMs I sent you? I'm trying to collaborate with you, and it's so hard to get things done when you don't communicate. Several people want out, and PM me to take care of their orders instead of you, and I'm not even sure anymore. It's still a mess. Also, I covered for you on a bunch of parts, which I didn't do for anyone else. You owe me a couple hundred dollars for several months now, and I'm not really an interest-free bank to give out loans like this.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 07 May 2013, 03:50:37

I wouldn't cancel my order. I just want to make sure you had it right. You have not updated it since January. Do you mind Posting the Excel sheet so those of us that we can have a more accurate reference?


Thank you for the link to the Excel sheet.

I'm in the Back Ordered List.  That's OK.  When the Clears come in then they are in.  Just got anxious about putting the LZ-GH together but since the switches are yet to turn up it's good to know.

Besides I think mine might be the very last to get made.  No problems, I'm use to that by now  ;) .
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 07 May 2013, 11:43:33

I wouldn't cancel my order. I just want to make sure you had it right. You have not updated it since January. Do you mind Posting the Excel sheet so those of us that we can have a more accurate reference?


Thank you for the link to the Excel sheet.

I'm in the Back Ordered List.  That's OK.  When the Clears come in then they are in.  Just got anxious about putting the LZ-GH together but since the switches are yet to turn up it's good to know.

Besides I think mine might be the very last to get made.  No problems, I'm use to that by now  ;) .

what link to the excel sheet?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 07 May 2013, 12:11:13
what link to the excel sheet?

It's in the original post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38471.msg745297#msg745297).
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 07 May 2013, 12:43:46
what link to the excel sheet?

It's in the original post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38471.msg745297#msg745297).
Awesome, thanks.

How do we know what our status is?  I didn't order any services, when should I expect parts?  Only asking because it's been like 4 months.  When I initially ordered I think the time frame given was much less.
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 07 May 2013, 13:32:15
There is no ETA
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 07 May 2013, 13:36:48
There is no ETA

That sucks.  I've already had two other opportunities to get these parts from other people that would have had them in hand by now.  What's taking so long?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 07 May 2013, 13:38:23
Read the thread.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 07 May 2013, 13:40:21
TheProfosist seems to be overloaded KuhnTang. I will not speak for him, but deadlines have not been met, and information is vague.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Leewei on Tue, 07 May 2013, 14:31:42
Hey TheProfosist. I looked through the excel sheet and it says I am only down for 90 clear switches. However I checked my invoice and I paid for 90 clear switches, 1 grey switch and 1 7x stabilizer set. Please update my order. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 07 May 2013, 16:08:42
Yeah what excel sheet?  Are you talking about the original Google docs? My order is wrong on the Google docs....
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Leewei on Tue, 07 May 2013, 16:10:13
It's not excel, just a spreadsheet that can be found in the op. Lol. Just a habit saying excel. Yea my order is wrong too, it's missing a few parts but that could be my original order and he hasn't updated it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 07 May 2013, 16:19:30
Read:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38471.msg882164.msg#882164
He said he has an excel sheet on his PC.
Prof, could you upload it for us. A lot of us are wanting to see it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Elrick on Tue, 07 May 2013, 20:39:59
TheProfosist seems to be overloaded KuhnTang. I will not speak for him, but deadlines have not been met, and information is vague.

Yep, but this is GH.  Hence orders aren't always PRECISE nor ACCURATE.  The Prof has tried his best, but along the logistics route something went wrong, hence instead of spending heaps of time refunding everything to everyone on this Group Buy, he probably thinks that waiting for the shipments would be more welcomed (just guessing here because I've heard nothing from him).

Not fussed or pissed (it's the norm when dealing with orders) because this isn't the first time when suppliers let their customers down.  Just hope Alaric is understanding about this though  ::) .
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 07 May 2013, 23:33:46
guys Ill get an update, info, replies,  and stuff tomorrow I have good news (I think) and yes I was overloaded but not anymore (I think). Yes,  i am currently busy but with GH stuff for the most part.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 08 May 2013, 00:51:05
Ok I was going to post this in the update tomorrow but here is the almighty spreadsheet thanks to SmallFry.


View Using Google Docs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AupvlvyuC9aEdGNPV1JlV1U5Z0JhOWlObmlscTYzZ3c&usp=sharing

Download for Microsoft Office Excel 2007 and newer
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-pvlvyuC9aEWU1JVXlWRUdFVWc/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 08 May 2013, 04:27:06
My order shoud be sent to WhiteFireDragon but i don't see this in the notes
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 08 May 2013, 23:22:34
Another day, another delay.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: BimboBB on Fri, 10 May 2013, 06:03:14
profosist, do you have already all the parts (just for shipping, not for assembly) or are you still missing things?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Sun, 12 May 2013, 00:23:13
Could we get that update any time soon? Wondering when ill need to be paying for shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Sun, 12 May 2013, 13:21:29
what the update on these builts ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 12 May 2013, 15:01:31
Prof has been MIA from GChat the last few days, I will continue trying to contact him.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:09:01
Does anyone got a keyboard from him yet from the Phantom series ? I am getting a bit nervous after all these month waiting ?!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 13 May 2013, 11:19:02
Nobody has their keyboard currently, no.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Binge on Mon, 13 May 2013, 12:41:08
Without good communication I can see this just getting worse.  Please find the courage to be present for your customers.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:20:00
Without good communication I can see this just getting worse.  Please find the courage to be present for your customers.
Not going to defend him, but it is 100x worse because instead of one person asking for an update, one person asks and then ten people echo that ask and then 20 more complain.

I get it, you have money on the line and all that, welcome to GH. I waited 1.5 years for the R4 group buy, a year of that after payment and I still don't have caps but the updates come. They come slow, but there they are. Remember that he has to wait for shipments as well.


I mean, if you want him to post every 12 hours saying, "nothing new, still waiting" then you're in the wrong game.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:21:54
I will continue to try and communicate with him via GChat guys. Last Wednesday, he stated that he will be counting his switches and PLU keyboards.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Binge on Mon, 13 May 2013, 13:46:34
Without good communication I can see this just getting worse.  Please find the courage to be present for your customers.
Not going to defend him, but it is 100x worse because instead of one person asking for an update, one person asks and then ten people echo that ask and then 20 more complain.

I get it, you have money on the line and all that, welcome to GH. I waited 1.5 years for the R4 group buy, a year of that after payment and I still don't have caps but the updates come. They come slow, but there they are. Remember that he has to wait for shipments as well.


I mean, if you want him to post every 12 hours saying, "nothing new, still waiting" then you're in the wrong game.

I've worked customer service for over 7 years.  You AHK that response if you have to.  You sir don't have the faintest idea of what I'm talking about, and I have only written what was written out of the most respect for what TheProfosist is doing.  A perfectly decent person is probably whelmed by all of this, and it's a bunch of talking... many times too much for someone who had a lot of wiggle room for most of their lives.

Doing a little bit of work and using a bit of courage is not going to make things as hard for him as they can get when enough folks become rabble-rousers
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 13 May 2013, 15:01:43
I know what you're saying, nebo.  Forum users can get whiny and obnoxious.  However, I have two points...

1) R4 was a disaster, it shouldn't be a justification for anything.
2) I think everyone would shut right up if there was an ETA posted.  Silence and/or responses that amount to "I refuse to discuss it any more right now" will add to the chaos.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 13 May 2013, 15:11:21
I know what you're saying, nebo.  Forum users can get whiny and obnoxious.  However, I have two points...

1) R4 was a disaster, it shouldn't be a justification for anything.
2) I think everyone would shut right up if there was an ETA posted.  Silence and/or responses that amount to "I refuse to discuss it any more right now" will add to the chaos.

Well summarized Metalliqaz. Those are my thoughts exactly.

I've pre-paid and had everything shipped to the Profosist and I have no idea where we are in the process, what the next step is, or any expectation of when something will be known.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 13 May 2013, 15:51:02
WhiteFireDragon has a lot of my stuff. Ship my order to him please.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Germiphene on Mon, 13 May 2013, 16:44:01
Mashby has summarized it nicely.  I don't know prof at all, never met him, etc.  However, I've given him a significant amount of my money... just given.... with the "promise" that things will work out in the end.  After 3 months, with VERY little actual input, and now this stonewalling, I'm getting nervous. 

I don't think I'm the only one in this situation. 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Mon, 13 May 2013, 17:50:36
I don't really care about delays and set backs, I'd just like a little information as to what's happening. All it would take is a "Still waiting on switches, but I have stabs" etc.

Not really sure why there is all this secrecy over keyboard parts.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 13 May 2013, 18:24:45
I've just requested for bavman to ship everything that is suppose to go to Prof, to actually go to me, regardless of what Prof says. I cannot contact Prof, and I doubt anyone else is able to also. What I do know is that he spent all the GB money (including the assembly costs that he already collected), on switches and PLUs, so he does not have enough for stabilizers and what he owes me. Smallfry is busy until summer, so I'll try to completely take over this for now. It's getting a bit ridiculous...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Mon, 13 May 2013, 18:27:38
I've just requested for bavman to ship everything that is suppose to go to Prof, to actually go to me, regardless of what Prof says. I cannot contact Prof, and I doubt anyone else is able to also. What I do know is that he spent all the GB money (including the assembly costs that he already collected), on switches and PLUs, so he does not have enough for stabilizers and what he owes me. Smallfry is busy until summer, so I'll try to completely take over this for now. It's getting a bit ridiculous...

Sigh, sounds like I won't be seeing my switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 13 May 2013, 18:31:41
Did he really order our switches? 7bit said he did order switches but didn't specify how many. Did he not post pictures of PLUs?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Elrick on Mon, 13 May 2013, 19:44:36
Did he really order our switches? 7bit said he did order switches but didn't specify how many.

Yep, I suspect this thread has now started to amass into an all "Pitchfork and Torches" rally against The Prof.

The poor guy is over whelmed with all the orders that came in and I don't blame him.  The decent thing is to wait for another 3 MONTHS or so to see what happens.

Even if you haven't heard from him then order switches from elsewhere.  I will order some from another person so that I can cover as many bases since Ergo Clears are so difficult to find now.

So like you guys I paid for the switches and I suspect I will buy some more later on.  Just give the poor guy some space, because this Group Buy has hit him hard. 

Remember when everyone had their Pitchforks up for Sherryton wanting blood and vengeance?  Well the guy came back and sent out all orders (or refunded in full).  I got my package from him and I will be purchasing more.  Sometimes you need to step back, be patient and plan another way to get your items instead of howling for blood on a consistent basis.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 13 May 2013, 20:13:40
He had very good communication when the GB started and has very bad communication now. He has not given any ETA. Again when the GB started he gave assuring ETAs... From what we have seen I think we have the right to worry. I'll be honest. I have been giving Prof the benefit of the doubt despite what people have been saying, but the more I give him the more I worry. Prof has yet given me a reason to not worry. He is not fulfilling me desire to cancel my basic assembly and have been very hard to work with. He has yet to put together my keyboard in over 4 months. The promises and job has yet to be fulfilled. I don't feel it is right that he is entitled to keep my money that was given in the expectation that he would provide service. I do not want services and I don't expect it. I want the goods that I have paid for with my money for and a refund on the service.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 13 May 2013, 21:55:37
Seeing as people not in this GB don't have their PCB, I don't see how that makes it TPs fault.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Tue, 14 May 2013, 01:34:57
I think that if the poor guy can't deliver he has to refund, plain and simple.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 14 May 2013, 07:14:50
Did he really order our switches? 7bit said he did order switches but didn't specify how many.

Yep, I suspect this thread has now started to amass into an all "Pitchfork and Torches" rally against The Prof.

The poor guy is over whelmed with all the orders that came in and I don't blame him.  The decent thing is to wait for another 3 MONTHS or so to see what happens.

Even if you haven't heard from him then order switches from elsewhere.  I will order some from another person so that I can cover as many bases since Ergo Clears are so difficult to find now.

So like you guys I paid for the switches and I suspect I will buy some more later on.  Just give the poor guy some space, because this Group Buy has hit him hard. 

Remember when everyone had their Pitchforks up for Sherryton wanting blood and vengeance?  Well the guy came back and sent out all orders (or refunded in full).  I got my package from him and I will be purchasing more.  Sometimes you need to step back, be patient and plan another way to get your items instead of howling for blood on a consistent basis.



Remember Changdrew?  He didn't come back.  If you want to trust Sherryton again then that's your choice, but I can take a hint.

Sounds like this one has finally imploded.  I will try to recover my money on my own.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 14 May 2013, 07:27:13
hey guys! looks round... wow a lot happens in a couple days doesnt it...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 14 May 2013, 07:49:56
hey guys! looks round... wow a lot happens in a couple days doesnt it...

That's hilarious, Elliot.  Keep playing coy, it's been working out so well for you.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 14 May 2013, 07:52:13
hey guys! looks round... wow a lot happens in a couple days doesnt it...

That's hilarious, Elliot.  Keep playing coy, it's been working out so well for you.
totally dude, rock on!



BTW had to look up playing coy I guess ive heard it plenty of times but never knew the true definition just the implied one.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 14 May 2013, 08:02:28
So metalliqaz since you seem to be one of the ones most concerned with the situation (besides SmallFry?) what would you like to see happen withing the coming days that has nothing to do with a refund?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 14 May 2013, 08:10:54
A refund.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 08:11:57
BTW had to look up playing coy I guess ive heard it plenty of times but never knew the true definition just the implied one.

What do certain people "imply" when they say 'playing coy' that is different from the true definition?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 14 May 2013, 08:15:16
BTW had to look up playing coy I guess ive heard it plenty of times but never knew the true definition just the implied one.

What do certain people "imply" when they say 'playing coy' that is different from the true definition?

That they could be saying something, but they choose not to.  It could be flirtatious, or in this case, mocking the people who are upset.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 14 May 2013, 08:18:41
BTW had to look up playing coy I guess ive heard it plenty of times but never knew the true definition just the implied one.

What do certain people "imply" when they say 'playing coy' that is different from the true definition?
maybe imply is the wrong word... hmm though idk what the term for figuring out a words definition using surrounding words is. And who knows maybe they were using if perfectly correctly. I guess i never picked up on the complete/exact definition just by hearing it used.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 08:20:28
BTW had to look up playing coy I guess ive heard it plenty of times but never knew the true definition just the implied one.

What do certain people "imply" when they say 'playing coy' that is different from the true definition?

That they could be saying something, but they choose not to.  It could be flirtatious, or in this case, mocking the people who are upset.

But that is one of the definitions.
BTW had to look up playing coy I guess ive heard it plenty of times but never knew the true definition just the implied one.

What do certain people "imply" when they say 'playing coy' that is different from the true definition?
maybe imply is the wrong word... hmm though idk what the term for figuring out a words definition using surrounding words is. And who knows maybe they were using if perfectly correctly. I guess i never picked up on the complete/exact definition just by hearing it used.

Context.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 14 May 2013, 08:27:02
How about we keep this simple.

What is the current status of the GB?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 14 May 2013, 08:28:09
A refund.

thought i said something that had nothing to do with a refund but i guess i deserved that answer a little bit



BTW had to look up playing coy I guess ive heard it plenty of times but never knew the true definition just the implied one.

What do certain people "imply" when they say 'playing coy' that is different from the true definition?

That they could be saying something, but they choose not to.  It could be flirtatious, or in this case, mocking the people who are upset.

i thought you were using it to this effect? "showing reluctance, especially when insincere or affected, to reveal one's plans or opinions, make a commitment, or take a stand"

yea maybe that was the wrong way to go but i just hate the tenseness of the pitchforks and torches mood and i thought a little not serious comment might lighten the mood a bit.

though you should know I am actively trying to make you at least less upset (hopefully).
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 14 May 2013, 08:34:23
BTW had to look up playing coy I guess ive heard it plenty of times but never knew the true definition just the implied one.

What do certain people "imply" when they say 'playing coy' that is different from the true definition?
maybe imply is the wrong word... hmm though idk what the term for figuring out a words definition using surrounding words is. And who knows maybe they were using if perfectly correctly. I guess i never picked up on the complete/exact definition just by hearing it used.

Context.

hmm i thought that they would have some super scientific term for it like everything else we do naturally, o well.


How about we keep this simple.

What is the current status of the GB?

Its alive and kicking especially since I said I had an update (I guess last tuesday, i guess I didnt think it was that long). I still have updates I guess even more now.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 14 May 2013, 08:42:47
Its alive and kicking especially since I said I had an update (I guess last tuesday, i guess I didnt think it was that long). I still have updates I guess even more now.

Then maybe, just maybe, instead of posting this:

hey guys! looks round... wow a lot happens in a couple days doesnt it...

You should maybe, you know, post the updates you have? You say you have updates, then keep everyone in the dark. I didn't even order anything from you, and this annoys me. You have two "reserved" posts under your OP where you could post detailed updates with inventory received, status of what people ordered and if their order is complete except for assembly, etc.

I'm trying to help you here, but you need to help yourself by giving these people what they paid for.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: esoomenona on Tue, 14 May 2013, 08:44:46
You should maybe, you know, post the updates you have? You say you have updates, then keep everyone in the dark. I didn't even order anything from you, and this annoys me. You have two "reserved" posts under your OP where you could post detailed updates with inventory received, status of what people ordered and if their order is complete except for assembly, etc.

I'm trying to help you here, but you need to help yourself by giving these people what they paid for.

I agree. I didn't want to come in here, and jump on you because I didn't personally buy anything through you, but I know what it feels like when someone who you've given money to won't respond. Instead of posting about updates, just post the updates. Let people know the truth, even if it will upset them.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 14 May 2013, 09:47:14
You're preaching to the choir Moose; I've told him this multiple times to make an update, even of it would be upsetting.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 14 May 2013, 09:57:34
Managing people's expectations is critical in anything you do in life, not just in Group Buys.

As we've seen in other GBs, nothing goes perfectly according to plan, but letting folks know about any issues, delays, etc., goes a LONG way in keeping things running smooth. Most people here have demonstrated that as long as they are aware of what's going on, then they are more than patient -- even if it's bad news.

Recent experiences with R4 and Sanctuary fresh in everyone's mind has many people on edge not to have a repeat of that experience. A key factor in those other GBs was the lack of communication, so it's understandable that when people start to see the same level of non-communication, they start reaching for their torches.

Personally, when I look back at monies that I payed in February and the OP status is still showing "Invoicing" with little or no updates, I start to grow concerned. I don't want a refund, I just really want to know what the next step is and how's it going.

You've taken on a huge responsibility, so I can only imagine the weight that you're carrying, but there are people at the ready to help share the load. GeekHack is a fantastic community of volunteers with a rich and varied set of talents. Whatever the issues are -- even money -- there are plenty of people that are willing to lend a hand and help out.

We all want the same thing -- this GB to be a huge success.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 14 May 2013, 09:58:03
Its alive and kicking especially since I said I had an update (I guess last tuesday, i guess I didnt think it was that long). I still have updates I guess even more now.

Then maybe, just maybe, instead of posting this:

hey guys! looks round... wow a lot happens in a couple days doesnt it...

You should maybe, you know, post the updates you have? You say you have updates, then keep everyone in the dark. I didn't even order anything from you, and this annoys me. You have two "reserved" posts under your OP where you could post detailed updates with inventory received, status of what people ordered and if their order is complete except for assembly, etc.

I'm trying to help you here, but you need to help yourself by giving these people what they paid for.

You should maybe, you know, post the updates you have? You say you have updates, then keep everyone in the dark. I didn't even order anything from you, and this annoys me. You have two "reserved" posts under your OP where you could post detailed updates with inventory received, status of what people ordered and if their order is complete except for assembly, etc.

I'm trying to help you here, but you need to help yourself by giving these people what they paid for.

I agree. I didn't want to come in here, and jump on you because I didn't personally buy anything through you, but I know what it feels like when someone who you've given money to won't respond. Instead of posting about updates, just post the updates. Let people know the truth, even if it will upset them.

ok here are some verbal updates (I know many you want pictures as well thell be soonish to follow)


-I have all the PLUs that were ordered in their correct colors and switches.

-the day that I said there would be and update I had gotten my third bag of switches from 7bit. I was also told that just that day he had shipped out that last bag though i was not told how many total bags that was. additionally there was a follow up pm stating that no whites had been shipped to me yet and he has none to ship but their preordered for his next order.

-yesterday a fourth bag of switches showed up

-a couple days ago I head back from Weyman at WASD and the costar stabs are now on order.

-yesterday I got a pm from bavman saying that hes working out some minor details and that the theirs a possibility that the PCBs will ship to me today. Though I have not been told whose PCBs those might be, as in people im building for or everyone who ordered something from me.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Germiphene on Tue, 14 May 2013, 10:01:08
Thanks for the update Prof, please keep it up!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 14 May 2013, 10:03:17
Thank you.  :-*

So to summarize:
   - PLUs have been received
   - Four bags of switches have been received
   - Costar stabilizers have been ordered from WASD
   - Bavman has said that the PCBs may ship to you today
   - You're still sorting out a few issues regarding switches with 7bit
      - How many bags were shipped
      - Status of MX-White switches
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 14 May 2013, 10:05:52
Managing people's expectations is critical in anything you do in life, not just in Group Buys.

As we've seen in other GBs, nothing goes perfectly according to plan, but letting folks know about any issues, delays, etc., goes a LONG way in keeping things running smooth. Most people here have demonstrated that as long as they are aware of what's going on, then they are more than patient -- even if it's bad news.

Recent experiences with R4 and Sanctuary fresh in everyone's mind has many people on edge not to have a repeat of that experience. A key factor in those other GBs was the lack of communication, so it's understandable that when people start to see the same level of non-communication, they start reaching for their torches.

Personally, when I look back at monies that I payed in February and the OP status is still showing "Invoicing" with little or no updates, I start to grow concerned. I don't want a refund, I just really want to know what the next step is and how's it going.

You've taken on a huge responsibility, so I can only imagine the weight that you're carrying, but there are people at the ready to help share the load. GeekHack is a fantastic community of volunteers with a rich and varied set of talents. Whatever the issues are -- even money -- there are plenty of people that are willing to lend a hand and help out.

We all want the same thing -- this GB to be a huge success.


yea I should have been way more on the ball with the invoicing I got them out right away but I didnt cut off the stranglers until like a month after payment was due at least.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 14 May 2013, 10:29:48
Thank you.  :-*

So to summarize:
   - PLUs have been received
   - Four bags of switches have been received
   - Costar stabilizers have been ordered from WASD
   - Bavman has said that the PCBs may ship to you today
   - You're still sorting out a few issues regarding switches with 7bit
      - How many bags were shipped
      - Status of MX-White switches

i should be able to get a general count of the 4 bags of switches that I do have at some point hopefully soon
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 14 May 2013, 11:07:21
According to 7bit the switches that were paid for have been sent (and probably received).  That should be everything but the MX whites.

According to WFD, the stabilizers have not been paid for.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 14 May 2013, 14:02:00
Are you able to get an ETA from 7bit on the white switches? I thought he had some on hand or was that for something else (or maybe I am remembering wrong).
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 14 May 2013, 14:22:17
He said they are still on preorder.  His thread  (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760.html)at Deskthority lists September-October 2013
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 14 May 2013, 14:29:00
:/

I swear there was a limited quantity and then it got moved to BACKORDERED which is why I went for them so quickly. Four more months.....
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Wed, 15 May 2013, 08:08:59
I got a message today that says that greens and whites will be delivered in the last week of June.

Sorry for the delay of the switches, but it seems other parts take longer anyway.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 15 May 2013, 08:10:06
Good to hear. Thanks 7bit.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 15 May 2013, 12:54:10
Thanks for the update! Even it it was longer I'd wait as I know some switches are quite a pain to get.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Wed, 15 May 2013, 15:29:20
End of June for Greens? Damn. I knew I should have gone Red. :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 15 May 2013, 20:22:58
I got a message today that says that greens and whites will be delivered in the last week of June.

Sorry for the delay of the switches, but it seems other parts take longer anyway.

Good to hear.  I still am going to get some more Clears & Greens from Pexon just as insurance, in case June turns into October  :)) .

I'm not saying it will, god forbid - but you never know what the future holds here when it comes to Group Buys.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 15 May 2013, 22:56:10
Hey prof,

Now that you have some stuff can you start shipping it out?  I would really like my switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Wed, 15 May 2013, 23:44:11
Hey Prof,


I've found someone to take my switches instead of me. Are you able to simply change my details for his with the switches and then sort shipping out with him when it's time?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 16 May 2013, 00:14:12
Hey Prof,


I've found someone to take my switches instead of me. Are you able to simply change my details for his with the switches and then sort shipping out with him when it's time?

nope not a problem send me a PM about this please
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 16 May 2013, 12:55:42
Prof,

When are you going to ship orders? 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 16 May 2013, 13:46:13
I got another bag of switches today, and just a warning you may not be hearing from me again until monday.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 16 May 2013, 13:59:08
I got another bag of switches today, and just a warning you may not be hearing from me again until monday.

Good job at yet again replying and not answering the question. 

The question was, "when are you planning on sending out the switches"?

When this started you said that you already had the clear switches and that those of us "me included" that ordered early wouldn't have to wait for backordered switches.  well.... I've been waiting.  What is the delay on shipping?  If you don't like my questions feel free to just refund me my money, this is just getting annoying.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 16 May 2013, 14:14:24
I got another bag of switches today, and just a warning you may not be hearing from me again until monday.

Good job at yet again replying and not answering the question. 

The question was, "when are you planning on sending out the switches"?

When this started you said that you already had the clear switches and that those of us "me included" that ordered early wouldn't have to wait for backordered switches.  well.... I've been waiting.  What is the delay on shipping?  If you don't like my questions feel free to just refund me my money, this is just getting annoying.

I never said I had clear switches as i have not taken time to go through the bags yet. All I did say is that I wont have green switches for a bit longer. Your order and others that didnt order green switches orders will not be delayed because of the green switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 16 May 2013, 14:40:56
And still, no answer.

"Not being delayed" is not an answer to "when are you shipping them".  I'm frankly just getting tired of this.  Please just ship me my parts or refund me.  I'm done with this.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 16 May 2013, 15:51:00
And still, no answer.

"Not being delayed" is not an answer to "when are you shipping them".  I'm frankly just getting tired of this.  Please just ship me my parts or refund me.  I'm done with this.

If you want out and prof doesn't want to refund I might be interested in buying out your spot....if that is an option?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Thu, 16 May 2013, 16:19:42
TheProfosist i have bought from you 280 switches and 3 Costar stabs set, you will deliver them or prefer to refund?
If you want to deliver i want to know when.
Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Soulpyre on Thu, 16 May 2013, 18:27:03
Any word on if the cherry stabilizers are in?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 16 May 2013, 20:17:48
you know I am been patient and trusting on this but all i wanted were some damn brown and clear switches; at the time i ordered i didn't know about 7bit or maybe i would have ordered from him if they were in stock at that time, i don't know (i already have received red switches from him just fine, but those were the only ones in stock). I feel foolish for not making myself more informed then, but things have changed thankfully.

i beg you prof, please update us more with DETAILS , dude you can keep the LED stuff, just send me some damn switches!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Elrick on Thu, 16 May 2013, 20:48:37
I got another bag of switches today, and just a warning you may not be hearing from me again until monday.

I suspect you won't hear from him till this coming Monday 20th of May.  He's got lots to do, heaps of switches to count and separate for plenty of customers.

Fair enough.

(ps. Anything wrong with my order please let me know via PM please, that would be greatly appreciated  ;D .)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 16 May 2013, 20:49:52
Lol. Kay.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Amarok on Sun, 19 May 2013, 19:02:54
If anyone wants to buy my spot in this group buy send me a PM. My order is for a fully assembled Phantom including all parts with Ergo Clears.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 19 May 2013, 20:19:20
If anyone wants to buy my spot in this group buy send me a PM. My order is for a fully assembled Phantom including all parts with Ergo Clears.

ygpm
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: BimboBB on Tue, 21 May 2013, 04:51:42
I got another bag of switches today, and just a warning you may not be hearing from me again until monday.

Any news or progress about shipping the parts? .....Its Tuesday.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 21 May 2013, 09:24:40
Not a chance...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 21 May 2013, 20:26:52
seriously all i wanted was some clear switches and i feel like a fool for not educating myself until after this group buy ended, its amazing how much has changed and how much i have learned since i ordered in this group buy and i wish i could cancel and get refund. too late now it seems.

a handful of places on the web for months have clear switches with the pcb pins (that can be clipped off for the phantom) for a decent price.

Its less of a case of this being Prof's fault but my fault for not educating myself. Simply finding out how he was acquiring the parts in bulk would have changed my decision to participate.

lesson learned and the wait continues.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 21 May 2013, 20:47:10
Ugh. Could we please get a refund on the assembly? $35 on something I can do myself is too much. What are you losing if I cancel my assembly?

You have yet to put it together. I want a refund on just the assembly. What will you be losing. There is no reason that you couldn't just refund me.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Tue, 21 May 2013, 20:55:05
WFD said he spend assembly money on the switches.

If you thought that 25 was too much for assembly, why did you order it?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 21 May 2013, 21:16:32
I got another bag of switches today, and just a warning you may not be hearing from me again until monday.

Any news or progress about shipping the parts? .....Its Tuesday.

HaHa, thats funny!

OK, I'll update you all for prof,

Update:
things are happening, I'm really busy, you guys are going to be so excited when I break the news.  OMG, just hold your horses, don't you know things are happening.  BTW don't  bother me, I'm really busy and I already told you things are happening.  Jesus, what more do you want?

God, I'm busy, I'll update you all more later
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 21 May 2013, 23:05:41
How are you contacting him?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 22 May 2013, 00:45:18
I got another bag of switches today, and just a warning you may not be hearing from me again until monday.

Any news or progress about shipping the parts? .....Its Tuesday.

HaHa, thats funny!

OK, I'll update you all for prof,

Update:
things are happening, I'm really busy, you guys are going to be so excited when I break the news.  OMG, just hold your horses, don't you know things are happening.  BTW don't  bother me, I'm really busy and I already told you things are happening.  Jesus, what more do you want?

God, I'm busy, I'll update you all more later

ROFL funny man, just so you know I havnt replied to anyone or anything this week yet.

But, a big thanks to those who respected my post about being unavailable for GH stuff until the following monday. I appreciate not getting flooded while I dont have the ability or time to answer. 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 22 May 2013, 03:21:42
TheProfosist i have bought from you 280 switches and 3 Costar stabs set, you will deliver them or prefer to refund?
If you want to deliver i want to know when.
Thanks.

n. 2
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 22 May 2013, 07:53:13
Looks like he's alive from the "Take better pictures" thread.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 22 May 2013, 11:39:27
I got another bag of switches today, and just a warning you may not be hearing from me again until monday.

Any news or progress about shipping the parts? .....Its Tuesday.

HaHa, thats funny!

OK, I'll update you all for prof,

Update:
things are happening, I'm really busy, you guys are going to be so excited when I break the news.  OMG, just hold your horses, don't you know things are happening.  BTW don't  bother me, I'm really busy and I already told you things are happening.  Jesus, what more do you want?

God, I'm busy, I'll update you all more later

ROFL funny man, just so you know I havnt replied to anyone or anything this week yet.

But, a big thanks to those who respected my post about being unavailable for GH stuff until the following monday. I appreciate not getting flooded while I dont have the ability or time to answer.

Why do you bother replying, you never say anything.  I will never join another one of your GB's.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Binge on Wed, 22 May 2013, 11:43:50
I think he's stated that he's not going to do any more after this is over.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 22 May 2013, 11:53:16
I think he's stated that he's not going to do any more after this is over.

Which is probably the correct action.

Anyway, Prof is back and I think we've determined that the switches are in.  Now lets work on getting those stabilizers.  The Costar order has gone through by now, right?  What about the Cherry stabs?  Those are being sourced from WFD if I understand correctly.  How is that going?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 23 May 2013, 12:47:27
Hopefully my switches will be with Alaric when he's going to assemble my board.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 23 May 2013, 13:12:42
The Costar stabs from WASD showed up!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 23 May 2013, 13:32:31
That's good news, we're almost there.  How about the Cherry stabs?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 23 May 2013, 13:38:33
That's good news, we're almost there.  How about the Cherry stabs?

looks like I need so find some wire and a bender. Anyone know where i can find some 1/16 in straight wire rod, cause im looked everywhere round here with no luck smallest I can find is 1/8 in.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 23 May 2013, 13:46:34
Hobby Lobby or Amazon.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 23 May 2013, 13:58:04
That's good news, we're almost there.  How about the Cherry stabs?

looks like I need so find some wire and a bender. Anyone know where i can find some 1/16 in straight wire rod, cause im looked everywhere round here with no luck smallest I can find is 1/8 in.

I have bent several stabilizer wires (Epsilon requires a non-standard length) and I would SERIOUSLY advice against this course.  It is not at all easy, and very time consuming.  Each wire takes me about a half hour to get right.  Also, we paid for new stabilizer kits, not home-bent.

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 23 May 2013, 14:02:15
That's good news, we're almost there.  How about the Cherry stabs?

looks like I need so find some wire and a bender. Anyone know where i can find some 1/16 in straight wire rod, cause im looked everywhere round here with no luck smallest I can find is 1/8 in.

I have bent several stabilizer wires (Epsilon requires a non-standard length) and I would SERIOUSLY advice against this course.  It is not at all easy, and very time consuming.  Each wire takes me about a half hour to get right.  Also, we paid for new stabilizer kits, not home-bent.



no actually you did pay for home bent ones cause you cant buy cherry spacebar stabilizers and their actually really easy and not that complex ive even modified a few 10x to be 7x just using a vice in a couple minutes so having a cheap wire bender it could only be easier and quicker.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 23 May 2013, 14:13:02
Whatever you say.  Just make sure to test them before you send them off.  Like SmallFry said you can get it from Hobby Lobby.  I don't know how many you have to make, but it must be dozens.  I at least have the capability so you don't have to bend mine, that will reduce the load slightly.  I assume you're starting with the 2x kits?  Are those ordered?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 23 May 2013, 14:21:52
Are there any more "warnings"? I'm sure people would like to know if they won't be hearing from you until next week.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Thu, 23 May 2013, 16:02:41
So you tell me to source parts, spend time and money on them, cover payment for a bunch of your parts, and now you're going to try to get your own elsewhere? What am I going to do with all this stuff that I already paid for?


I also highly advise against you making your own wires for everyone. It does take quite a bit of time to make them correctly and accurately because they need to be a certain tolerance for the stabilizers to not stick. Like metalliqaz said, It does take around 10-30min to measure, bend, clip, and test fitment for each one. You tell people you're really busy and to not bother you, what makes you think you'll have time to make over 50 wires? And judging from your worksmanship and attention to detail (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg854831#msg854831), I don't fully trust you'll make wires with exact dimensions.

Honestly, this was a huge waste of time and money trying to work with you. Several weeks, no reply to my PMs, and yet you still post around in the forums...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 23 May 2013, 16:14:56
So you tell me to source parts, spend time and money on them, cover payment for a bunch of your parts, and now you're going to try to get your own elsewhere? What am I going to do with all this stuff that I already paid for?


I also highly advise against you making your own wires for everyone. It does take quite a bit of time to make them correctly and accurately because they need to be a certain tolerance for the stabilizers to not stick. Like metalliqaz said, It does take around 10-30min to measure, bend, clip, and test fitment for each one. You tell people you're really busy and to not bother you, what makes you think you'll have time to make over 50 wires? And judging from your worksmanship and attention to detail (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg854831#msg854831), I don't fully trust you'll make wires with exact dimensions.

Honestly, this was a huge waste of time and money trying to work with you. Several weeks, no reply to my PMs, and yet you still post around in the forums...

Ill buy the sapcebar wires off of you if you already have all of them made, which if you do great!

I have made cherry spacebar wires before with a vise and understand what involved to get them to fit properly and how much time it takes I only did 5.

Also what I think is a proper lube amount is 100% personal preference apparently because I think most people use too little which to my fingers has little effect. This has nothing to do with making wires though so I dont get your point.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 23 May 2013, 16:20:16
Everyone wants to just get out of this as soon as possible... including you, Prof.  If WFD already has parts why not go with that?  It has to be the quickest option.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 23 May 2013, 16:26:01
Because he has yet to pay him...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 23 May 2013, 16:27:58
Everyone wants to just get out of this as soon as possible... including you, Prof.  If WFD already has parts why not go with that?  It has to be the quickest option.

Money would be the reason.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 23 May 2013, 16:28:20
I'm about to go "tilt!" with this assembly group buy.

When I signed up for this in January, it was because I wanted professional assembly to ensure that I had the best possible build for my Phantom (in fact, I recall requesting WFD for the build). If the last couple of posts is any indication of what the build is going to be like -- I'm out.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 23 May 2013, 16:36:43
Hi Prof,

I see you now have the "ability and time" to answer.  Why don't you give us a real status update?  Tell us why you're not sending out any parts? 

Please don't even respond if you only intend on basically blowing everyone off who trusted you with their money. 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 23 May 2013, 16:43:56
Hi Prof,

I see you now have the "ability and time" to answer.  Why don't you give us a real status update?  Tell us why you're not sending out any parts? 

Please don't even respond if you only intend on basically blowing everyone off who trusted you with their money. 

Im not blowing anyone off. I am not shipping parts because I dont have them all.

As for an update as to when theyll ship, thats quite hard to say as I dont know when ill have the rest of the parts. And YES I am actively trying to get the rest in.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 23 May 2013, 16:49:43
Everyone wants to just get out of this as soon as possible... including you, Prof.  If WFD already has parts why not go with that?  It has to be the quickest option.

Money would be the reason.

I don't understand this.  You had agreed on prices before collecting money, correct?  Is there a reason that money is suddenly an issue?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Thu, 23 May 2013, 16:51:51
Im not blowing anyone off. I am not shipping parts because I dont have them all.

As for an update as to when theyll ship, thats quite hard to say as I dont know when ill have the rest of the parts. And YES I am actively trying to get the rest in.

Which parts don't you have? Green switches and Cherry stabs? These specific details are what people want when you post an update.

Also, do you have any orders where you have received everything? Post those in one of the two reserved spots under the OP. If someone is missing something that you are waiting on, put that in there, too.

For people who ordered parts only, and whose orders are complete, exactly when do you plan to ship them?

These are the questions to which people want answers when they ask for updates...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 23 May 2013, 16:58:01
Im not blowing anyone off. I am not shipping parts because I dont have them all.

As for an update as to when theyll ship, thats quite hard to say as I dont know when ill have the rest of the parts. And YES I am actively trying to get the rest in.

Which parts don't you have? Green switches and Cherry stabs? These specific details are what people want when you post an update.

Also, do you have any orders where you have received everything? Post those in one of the two reserved spots under the OP. If someone is missing something that you are waiting on, put that in there, too.

For people who ordered parts only, and whose orders are complete, exactly when do you plan to ship them?

These are the questions to which people want answers when they ask for updates...

I have to check the switchs I do have but I should have everything but green, at least thats what has been shipped. Besides that im missing cherry stabs, plates, and PCBs.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 23 May 2013, 17:20:19
/me gets the Jiffy Pop.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 23 May 2013, 17:21:13
/me gets the Jiffy Pop.

You better get a Big Swig to go with that your gonna need it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Thu, 23 May 2013, 17:21:41
I have to check the switchs I do have

When are you going to check them?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: zyth3x on Thu, 23 May 2013, 19:13:31
I only ordered clear switches, surely those can be sent out?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 23 May 2013, 20:39:43
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/GeekHack/GH-sub-mine-NEW/IMG_3200.jpg~original)


note: this is was taken out of focus on purpose
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: okooko on Thu, 23 May 2013, 20:44:38
Looks like the switches have arrived.

I've got 60x Clears which I've instructed you to send to Alaric in a PM (sent approx a few weeks ago) Let me know if you did not receive this and I can resend this PM regarding the actions I would like to take regarding my purchases.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Thu, 23 May 2013, 20:46:16
So who's switches are those?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 23 May 2013, 20:50:48
Hopefully my 90  clear switches were inside so it can be send to Alaric ASAP.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 27 May 2013, 18:21:53
.....
Have we found out what switches you have yet? I realize you're still waiting on PCBs and other parts (probably), but at this rate I think I might have my GH60 and the whites from 7bit before I get this. :/

Of course I don't have a case for either yet but still.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Mon, 27 May 2013, 19:29:41
Can you send our switches to Alaric ASAP ?  I bought 90 Clear switches.  Would really  appreciate that. thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: okooko on Mon, 27 May 2013, 19:30:38
Can you send our switches to Alaric ASAP ?  I bought 90 Clear switches.  Would really  appreciate that. thanks

Along with 100x clears for me also.
Cheerios
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Tue, 28 May 2013, 04:00:52
When will you ship my switches to WhiteFireDragon?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 31 May 2013, 00:31:33
Quote from: IRC 5/31/13
[00:17:06] *** Joins: TheProfosist (~TheProfos@CPE-65-29-170-100.wi.res.rr.com)
[00:18:19] <SmallFry> TheProfosist, glad to see you
[00:18:28] <SmallFry> How is the GB coming?
[00:18:55] *** Quits: TheProfosist (~TheProfos@CPE-65-29-170-100.wi.res.rr.com) (Client Quit)
I've omitted a user's join to the channel that does not have anything to do with the GB, just so he doesn't get wrapped in also. Just thought you guys should know though. I will be in contact with WFD regarding action after my finals next week. Hopefully, WFD and I can get this GB back on track.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 31 May 2013, 04:16:32
Quote from: IRC 5/31/13
[00:17:06] *** Joins: TheProfosist (~TheProfos@CPE-65-29-170-100.wi.res.rr.com)
[00:18:19] <SmallFry> TheProfosist, glad to see you
[00:18:28] <SmallFry> How is the GB coming?
[00:18:55] *** RAGE Quits: TheProfosist (~TheProfos@CPE-65-29-170-100.wi.res.rr.com) (Client Quit)
I've omitted a user's join to the channel that does not have anything to do with the GB, just so he doesn't get wrapped in also. Just thought you guys should know though. I will be in contact with WFD regarding action after my finals next week. Hopefully, WFD and I can get this GB back on track.

FTFY!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 31 May 2013, 05:18:52
When will you ship my switches to WhiteFireDragon?

again and again and...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 01 June 2013, 09:08:36
So how are we doing with those stabilizers?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Sat, 01 June 2013, 11:20:45
Last bag of switches has been sent last week. But white are still missing.

Sorry, the thing with the whites was my fault because I thought I had more. They are on preorder and should be delivered by the end of July.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 01 June 2013, 12:53:20
Last bag of switches has been sent last week. But white are still missing.

Sorry, the thing with the whites was my fault because I thought I had more. They are on preorder and should be delivered by the end of July.

Thank you for the update 7bit!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 01 June 2013, 18:36:58
notice all prof's update is a pic.  Yep, we already knew you had them, not from you, but from 7-bit.  So now, we get a photo, great. 

When are you shipping them?

I'm going to file a dispute tomorrow if you don't prove to me that you sent my parts or give me a refund.

I recommend the rest of you do the same.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 01 June 2013, 18:46:53
You can't file a dispute anymore due to the time after sending the payment, I thought.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 01 June 2013, 18:54:52
Profosist, please end our suffering and yours and turn this GB over to someone else.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 01 June 2013, 18:57:02
You can't file a dispute anymore due to the time after sending the payment, I thought.

45 days from payment
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 01 June 2013, 18:58:13
Profosist, please end our suffering and yours and turn this GB over to someone else.

I'd be willing to solder Phantoms, but all parts must be provided by the customer and I'd only be willing to take them if I know I can solder and ship within a reasonable amount of time.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 01 June 2013, 18:59:56
Same here Beast. I can solder some also, when needed.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Germiphene on Sat, 01 June 2013, 21:00:46
I... just... wanted.... parts.  OMG, this is a mess.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 02 June 2013, 00:30:48
I can solder switches as well.  I'm not even a part of this and this whole thread and frustration of everyone involved and total disregard for people who have paid for a service is ticking me off.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 02 June 2013, 00:38:55
just thought id say assembly is not a problem on my end what so ever, so people offering to build them does nothing to speed this up.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sun, 02 June 2013, 00:40:33
just thought id say assembly is not a problem on my end what so ever, so people offering to build them does nothing to speed this up.

How about them offering to come and ship the **** you need to send out?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 02 June 2013, 00:41:05
I may be speaking outside my bounds, but perhaps you should turn the GB over to WFD. I can come pickup the materials after next week.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 02 June 2013, 00:44:27
just thought id say assembly is not a problem on my end what so ever, so people offering to build them does nothing to speed this up.

How about them offering to come and ship the **** you need to send out?

I can start shipping stuff out to people who just ordered switches using the switches I do have.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sun, 02 June 2013, 00:45:19
just thought id say assembly is not a problem on my end what so ever, so people offering to build them does nothing to speed this up.

How about them offering to come and ship the **** you need to send out?

I can start shipping stuff out to people who just ordered switches using the switches I do have.

I know this doesnt satisfy everyone but its a start?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: okooko on Sun, 02 June 2013, 00:55:34
just thought id say assembly is not a problem on my end what so ever, so people offering to build them does nothing to speed this up.

How about them offering to come and ship the **** you need to send out?

I can start shipping stuff out to people who just ordered switches using the switches I do have.

I know this doesnt satisfy everyone but its a start?

please start doing this and informing the buyers in this thread regarding whos switches have arrived, have been sent to their destination and/or where the switches going to.

As for mine 100 clear to alaricjls please.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Paranoid on Sun, 02 June 2013, 06:29:07
Hi prof,

I left you a PM regarding a refund seeing as I won't need the leds and stabilizers anymore. Could you get back to me? Cheers!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Sun, 02 June 2013, 08:02:13
just thought id say assembly is not a problem on my end what so ever, so people offering to build them does nothing to speed this up.

How about them offering to come and ship the **** you need to send out?

I can start shipping stuff out to people who just ordered switches using the switches I do have.

You "can"?
You MUST do it NOW and refund what you can't deliver
If you don't have stabilizers you must refund them
Or this GB is just a scam
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: zyth3x on Sun, 02 June 2013, 08:07:08
just thought id say assembly is not a problem on my end what so ever, so people offering to build them does nothing to speed this up.

How about them offering to come and ship the **** you need to send out?

I can start shipping stuff out to people who just ordered switches using the switches I do have.

Please do, I ordered clear switches only.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Sun, 02 June 2013, 12:38:21
Prof,

You're unable to provide stab's, ship my my goods and refund me for stabs. 

I really hate this GB.  I'm sure you do as well.  Your reputation has been severely tarnished.  Ship everything and I'm sure everyone will forget over time.


Ship me my freaking stuff already.  I really regret ordering stab's.  refund me
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:01:42
As for mine 100 clear to alaricjls please.

If this is a modification to an order, this isn't the way to do it.  Direct communication is best.  Also, it's best not to complicate things this late in the game. It's very, very hard to keep up with that stuff.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:04:58

You "can"?
You MUST do it NOW and refund what you can't deliver
If you don't have stabilizers you must refund them
Or this GB is just a scam

He MUST do it NOW?  This is unreasonable.  What we need is communication and ETAs.  A GB doesn't become a scam at the snap of a finger.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:10:45
I can start shipping stuff out to people who just ordered switches using the switches I do have.

This is very promising.  As for the overall GB, it seems we are very close, except for (1) white switches and (2) cherry stabilizers.  As for (1), it seems 7bit will ship when he can.  For (2) I wish we could get these ordered so everyone can move on.

It has been several weeks since I saw the plates come in and many more weeks since I saw PCBs.  I'm not sure why I don't have those yet but until those come in, technically this GB is still on track.  However, I have lost confidence that my money is safe.  This has less to do with timing and more to do with attitudes.

What we need is to know when the remaining parts will be ordered, and then shipped.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:18:14

You "can"?
You MUST do it NOW and refund what you can't deliver
If you don't have stabilizers you must refund them
Or this GB is just a scam

He MUST do it NOW?  This is unreasonable.  What we need is communication and ETAs.  A GB doesn't become a scam at the snap of a finger.
Really more people need to realize this. Here is a post over on DT that I think encapsulates this pretty well (though a very different situation)
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1380.html (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1380.html)


Also, you want out? You need someone to buy your spot. That is how a GB works, this is not a store.

Quote from: Halvar from DT
I guess a real problem with the commercialization of group buys is that some people don't understand what a groupbuy is and how it works any more. With 7bit's group buy, I have problems understanding them myself.

You can see that from some reactions to 7bit's thread over there, saying this is private between 7bit and Kayliss and whatnot. You can also see it from some of the reactions in lysols GMK groupbuy thread on GH. And you can see it from the thread about the clear MX switches "GB" by pexon.

Some people seem to think that with groupbuy organizers making a profit, they can/should be treated like professional sellers.

On the other hand -- if you look at how some of today's group buys work, and 7bit's switch GBs (not round 4!) are a good example: from a normal member's viewpoint they are really hard to discern from a professional shop. There seems to be a stock of readily available switches, there's a professional ordering system, there's no transparency at all about the dealing of 7bit with his suppliers -- hell you don't even know who the suppliers are. You basically are told you enter a group buy without knowing where the organizer buys the merchandise, what prices he gets at what number of orders, at what point in time he has to pay for it, etc.. Only thing you get to know are preorder prices that the GB organizer seems to be able to prolong or deny more or less at will. This does look like a shop, not like gb any more to newer people. IMO there's a lack of transparency that can lead to the notion that these are professional undertakings.

With round 4 it was different in that there was a clear goal and a clear order to SP at some point in time, and people more or less knew what was going on. It was like you'd expect a group buy to be.

But even there, I for one never understood some aspects. in this case especially the whole handling of leftovers. I came to deskthority when the ordering phase of round 4 was already over, and there was a huge list of so-called leftovers in 7bit's system at that time. Where did the "stock" numbers come from, how were they even determined? Next, that "leftover" list diminished over time to almost nothing. Yet after the sorting phase, there suddenly were these 10.000 random keycaps that went into dummy sets. I mean, that's 1/4 of the volume of the whole GB! Why were these even made, and why weren't they in the leftover lists? And even after the dummy kits, 7bit seems to have enough leftover stuff to handle sorting errors and the like.

This is just an example, I'm sure 7bit has put a lot of thought into group buys and how to handle them that I just don't understand, and it might have been explained at some time in the 4000-posts thread of that GB during the last 2 years, but still -- to me these group buys need more transparency.

I don't want to excuse Kayliss's action, but I'm almost sure he didn't know what he was doing at all (and did't think a lot or ask a lot either of course). From the perspective of someone new to this, it's kind of hard to understand how this works and how a Paypal dispute can delay a whole GB.

All I want to say: there needs to be more explaining going on in the GBs, so people can build trust and discern them from all the commecial stuff that's going on GH. I mean look at pexon ... he clearly isn't interested in switches himself at all, he's a pro and he does this for profit, not even minding another GB on MX clears already going on. And from his reaction I'd even say he sees 7bit as just some other pro who competes against him.

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:27:58
This thread has so much fail in it it's depressing. =\
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:44:20
Really more people need to realize this. Here is a post over on DT that I think encapsulates this pretty well (though a very different situation)
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1380.html (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1380.html)


Also, you want out? You need someone to buy your spot. That is how a GB works, this is not a store.

Good points Nebo. I agree group buys behave completely differently from a commercial endeavor and Halvar's post that you reference is good at pointing out the differences. However, there are some differences here with this group buy that I find alarming.

1. WFD sourced and paid for parts out of his own pocket for TheProfosist and has yet to be reimbursed. These parts were paid in advance by participants in this GB, so why hasn't WFD been paid?

2. This GB is different from a key cap, or switch buy in that services were offered in addition to goods. 22 of the 60 orders that were placed included assembly services. I had requested that WFD do my assembly, but if he hasn't been paid for goods, what assurance do we have that assemblers will be compensated for their work?

3. This isn't an isolated issue. TheProfosist's behavior in this assembly service and his ErgoDox assembly group buy seems to indicates that this is a pattern.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:48:19
I know this doesnt satisfy everyone but its a start?

It's too late for a "start". You pissed away everyone's confidence in you that you could successfully organize this group buy. Instead of behaving in a responsible manner, you seem hell bent on being a smart ass and provide tiny bits of information and rarely answer a question directly.   I don't know what drama is happening behind-the-scenes that is causing you to behave in this manner, nor do I care anymore.

22 people chose to trust you and pay you in advance for work that you offered to perform. Based on your actions, or lack there of, that trust has been breached and it's clear that many people want out of this group buy, myself included. Since you rarely respond to my PM's, I will post what I sent you yesterday.

TheProfosist,

Based on your performance in this group buy and others you have started, I no longer wish to be involved in your Phantom Assembly service GB. I will be contracting with WFD for the assembly of my Phantom.

Since money is apparently an issue for you, I am not asking for a refund at this time because I don't believe that it will be forthcoming.  I don't wish to pay again for assembly services, but I don't wish to delay this process any more than it already has.

My only requirement is that you mail the White PLU-87 with Cherry MX-Red switches that you claim to have received to WhiteFireDragon and provide me with the tracking number.

Please respond in a timely fashion that you have received this PM and that you will, or will not comply.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:51:02
I'm not defending him anymore, it is kind of weird that he is avoiding saying anything. Really, "nothing new to report" says a lot more than "...". Lets the buyers know it is still actively in the works.

Also, this GB was set up a bit different than most, and if people (which seem like a lot in this thread) didn't realize how everything was being bought that is their fault. Not saying it is the best, not saying what is going on with WFD is right, but everyone knew what they were doing. You sent money to a guy you've never met on the internet with hopes that it wasn't going to be for nothing. Obviously if that happens it's horrible and TP would be shunned forever, but it was what we did and do for all GBs.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sun, 02 June 2013, 13:57:18
Just putting it out there, i can do assembly for people within ontario if you need. Just shoot me a PM.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 02 June 2013, 14:05:15
3. This isn't an isolated issue. TheProfosist's behavior in this assembly service and his ErgoDox assembly group buy seems to indicates that this is a pattern.

He once had a subforum too. Things were pretty similar to this.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Sun, 02 June 2013, 14:16:40
1) he has the switches in his hands
2) he don't deliver
3) he don't give us any ETA
4) he just SAID that POSSIBLY he can deliver
This after how many weeks?
How do you call that?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Sun, 02 June 2013, 14:19:42
Send my 90 clear switches to Alaric  like I told you to after I made the payment. Go go go
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Sun, 02 June 2013, 14:42:45
Also, you want out? You need someone to buy your spot. That is how a GB works, this is not a store.

I don't want out, i repeated it many times:
I want my switches that he has in his hands

So difficult to understand?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:00:00
Also, you want out? You need someone to buy your spot. That is how a GB works, this is not a store.

I don't want out, i repeated it many times:
I want my switches that he has in his hands

So difficult to understand?
That wasn't to you directly, that was to everyone else ITT who was backing out.


For your switches, I think everyone gets what you want. Contacting TP is how you should go about this, not posting twice a day here. Yeah, he doesn't exactly respond, but the issue is with you and TP and as such we don't need those posts here.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:05:17
So it's my problem and my personal issue with him?
Really funny
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:09:28
For your switches, I think everyone gets what you want. Contacting TP is how you should go about this, not posting twice a day here. Yeah, he doesn't exactly respond, but the issue is with you and TP and as such we don't need those posts here.

This is an issue with everyone in this GB.

I have my own suspicions about what is going on behind the scenes.  I'll just say that I've seen the behavior pattern before.  My goal now is to try and keep this thing moving forward so it doesn't implode.  We all know that if it does, most of us will lose our money.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:10:15
Your characterization of this as a group buy and not a store is pretty generous.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:11:42
Your characterization of this as a group buy and not a store is pretty generous.

You're probably right.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:14:20
So it's my problem and my personal issue with him?
Really funny
No, it's everyone's problem because we all want what we ordered but it is your personal issue.

Imagine a preorder for a console (for example) where a store says the will have 100 units and they give out vouchers to 100 people. If something happens and there are only 99 consoles, does the 1 person who missed out start yelling in the store and making a scene or does that person go to the person who promised them (with the voucher) that console? Right now, what you're doing is the equivalent of being that one person shouting to a bunch of people who have no way to help you.

For your switches, I think everyone gets what you want. Contacting TP is how you should go about this, not posting twice a day here. Yeah, he doesn't exactly respond, but the issue is with you and TP and as such we don't need those posts here.


This is an issue with everyone in this GB.


I have my own suspicions about what is going on behind the scenes.  I'll just say that I've seen the behavior pattern before.  My goal now is to try and keep this thing moving forward so it doesn't implode.  We all know that if it does, most of us will lose our money.


I think I explained my reasoning above. I know it's everyone on the line here, but there are times to start shouting and, while we are getting close to that, we are not there yet IMO.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:19:38
Oh so 99 out of 100 people got their stuff from TP already? That's good to hear.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:20:33
My goal now is to try and keep this thing moving forward so it doesn't implode.

metalliqaz, the hero we deserve, but not the one we need.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: elton5354 on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:21:27
that metafour was not so good ...lol
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:24:23
Oh so 99 out of 100 people got their stuff from TP already? That's good to hear.
:rolleyes: That's not what I was saying, though most people including yourself have not been scammed yet. He has the goods in your case so that problem is he is being an ass about the situation.

that metafour was not so good ...lol
It's 1:30PM and I'm still hungover. TT
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:38:58
I would say people have been scammed out of their time and are suffering from an increased level of stress due to how this is being handled. I don't think we have to define scamming as solely loss of money and goods.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:40:20
I would say people have been scammed out of their time and are suffering from an increased level of stress due to how this is being handled. I don't think we have to define scamming as solely loss of money and goods.

lol. we've been hogwashed!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:42:17
I would say people have been scammed out of their time and are suffering from an increased level of stress due to how this is being handled. I don't think we have to define scamming as solely loss of money and goods.
Won't argue that, though it is worth noting that there are people who ordered PCBs and plates directly that still don't have them. Switches though (not what) should be out. That I do not understand. Why post the picture if you're not going to have them sorted/shipped within a few days?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:44:40
This is all pretty funny.

No matter what you say about the difference between a GB and a purchase from a store, this GB has gone to complete shi*.  Why did it go to complete shi*, easy, the profist.  I don't think anyone can argue that.  So why even try to debate the differences between a GB and a store, when even for a GB, this is utter Shi*.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 02 June 2013, 15:44:51
Won't argue that, though it is worth noting that there are people who ordered PCBs and plates directly that still don't have them. Switches though (not what) should be out. That I do not understand. Why post the picture if you're not going to have them sorted/shipped within a few days?

It's the weekend man! Time for sex, drugs and rock and roll! And a little bit of hogwashing I guess.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Sun, 02 June 2013, 16:39:15
Please don't jump all off this group buy!

Even if he refunds you the money for the switches, you won't be able to get them anytime soon. I'm blocked by Round 4 and sold out at the moment. GH60 switches (NW-only anyway while Phantom needs NN) will take quite some while to be delivered and it is unclear when pexon gets close enough to 4000 to be able to order clears.

On the other hand, TheProfosist has them all there (except the whites which I can also ship directly when they arrived), so I'm quite sure he will still beat out anybody else in terms of delivery time and maybe even in price, as Cherry raised their prices quite a bit.

:-)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Germiphene on Sun, 02 June 2013, 22:16:44
Please don't jump all off this group buy!

Even if he refunds you the money for the switches, you won't be able to get them anytime soon. I'm blocked by Round 4 and sold out at the moment. GH60 switches (NW-only anyway while Phantom needs NN) will take quite some while to be delivered and it is unclear when pexon gets close enough to 4000 to be able to order clears.

On the other hand, TheProfosist has them all there (except the whites which I can also ship directly when they arrived), so I'm quite sure he will still beat out anybody else in terms of delivery time and maybe even in price, as Cherry raised their prices quite a bit.

:-)

Hahaha hhaaa haaaaa, It's like we're on a runaway train here.  We're going to get to the end, it just might be as a giant switch explosion, instead a calm orderly arrival.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: jabar on Sun, 02 June 2013, 22:40:41
What this GB needs is an end-game plan with milestones set forth by the Prof. I don't think anyone needs explanations or apologies at this time, but forward action.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: bisl on Mon, 03 June 2013, 15:54:39
Agreed. Also, for people to stop making demands in the thread. I'm waiting on an ETA too but you don't see me *****ing on the forums about it.

Only on IRC :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:18:24
Agreed. Also, for people to stop making demands in the thread. I'm waiting on an ETA too but you don't see me *****ing on the forums about it.

Only on IRC :)

What are we supposed to do?  It's clear Prof has completely checked out.  Even after the push this weekend we didn't get any comment from him.  He was online too, I checked.  He's in hiding, and I don't intend to simply let this fade away with my money in his pocket.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:19:42
Agreed. Also, for people to stop making demands in the thread. I'm waiting on an ETA too but you don't see me *****ing on the forums about it.

Only on IRC :)

What are we supposed to do?  It's clear Prof has completely checked out.  Even after the push this weekend we didn't get any comment from him.  He was online too, I checked.  He's in hiding, and I don't intend to simply let this fade away with my money in his pocket.

Is their a rough total of how much money has been put into this by members? I'm guessing it is a fairly large amount.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Tym on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:21:30
Agreed. Also, for people to stop making demands in the thread. I'm waiting on an ETA too but you don't see me *****ing on the forums about it.

Only on IRC :)

What are we supposed to do?  It's clear Prof has completely checked out.  Even after the push this weekend we didn't get any comment from him.  He was online too, I checked.  He's in hiding, and I don't intend to simply let this fade away with my money in his pocket.

Is their a rough total of how much money has been put into this by members? I'm guessing it is a fairly large amount.
Someone said 22 orders? 22x35 (min) = 875; unless im missing something. (This is nothing to do with me; just inputting some maths)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:23:34
Much more than that.  There is a spreadsheet in the OP if you were so inclined.  $200 from me, though.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:32:31
Much more than that.  There is a spreadsheet in the OP if you were so inclined.  $200 from me, though.
$5996.35

That's what I got but it was quick copy pasting and excel work so no idea on the accuracy though it's a pretty good number just looking over it. That isn't including shipping.



EDIT - Also looks like bavman is sending out orders so this can't be held up for anybody except white switches...
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg915450#msg915450 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg915450#msg915450)


What I said yesterday about waiting to start the whole pitchfork thing, yeah, we're getting close.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: bisl on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:36:34
What are we supposed to do?  It's clear Prof has completely checked out.  Even after the push this weekend we didn't get any comment from him.  He was online too, I checked.  He's in hiding, and I don't intend to simply let this fade away with my money in his pocket.

I don't mean stopping entirely all efforts to keep this moving, but if everyone spams the thread every day with nothing more than summary imperatives for profosist to ship their stuff, it turns into a real shatstorm. That **** is for PMs.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 03 June 2013, 16:47:11
Much more than that.  There is a spreadsheet in the OP if you were so inclined.  $200 from me, though.
$5996.35

That's what I got but it was quick copy pasting and excel work so no idea on the accuracy though it's a pretty good number just looking over it. That isn't including shipping.



EDIT - Also looks like bavman is sending out orders so this can't be held up for anybody except white switches...
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg915450#msg915450 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg915450#msg915450)


What I said yesterday about waiting to start the whole pitchfork thing, yeah, we're getting close.

I got a similar answer  :-X

Much more than that.  There is a spreadsheet in the OP if you were so inclined.  $200 from me, though.

someone please check my math but I just did multiplication and addition in excel.....

Well if I'm looking at that spreadsheet right its somewhere around ~$6,000+ total

Half of that is for switches ~$3,000

Around ~$1200 in the various assembly charges

Almost $1,000 just in the PLU-87 boards.....
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 04 June 2013, 00:34:22
I havnt checked out guys you should get a response from me tomorrow starting back with my other post. O and I received another bag of switches today from 7bit.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: okooko on Tue, 04 June 2013, 00:43:25
I havnt checked out guys you should get a response from me tomorrow starting back with my other post. O and I received another bag of switches today from 7bit.

good stuff.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 06 June 2013, 05:18:16
Hey guys sorry about not getting the response up, life has in no way going my way (murphy's law is a *****). I know what your going to think/say when i say this but ill do my best to post responses and reply to pms/emails before the start of next week. Before you ask I will most likely not be posting anything today as i wont be sitting down near a computer long enough to do so.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 06 June 2013, 06:06:05
Hey guys sorry about not getting the response up, life has in no way going my way (murphy's law is a *****). I know what your going to think/say when i say this but ill do my best to post responses and reply to pms/emails before the start of next week. Before you ask I will most likely not be posting anything today as i wont be sitting down near a computer long enough to do so.

^^ this is better than nothing!

Whatever your dealing with, I hope this all gets worked out.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 06 June 2013, 12:20:13
Hey guys sorry about not getting the response up, life has in no way going my way (murphy's law is a *****). I know what your going to think/say when i say this but ill do my best to post responses and reply to pms/emails before the start of next week. Before you ask I will most likely not be posting anything today as i wont be sitting down near a computer long enough to do so.

^^ this is better than nothing!

Whatever your dealing with, I hope this all gets worked out.

Not really.  Just like the rest of his posts, you got ZERO information from this post.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: asura on Thu, 06 June 2013, 12:54:12
Maybe he doesn't want to share his personal life with the world at large - my world domination silver key-cap plan has been stalled since about the same time as profs issues started.  I appreciated the difference being that I haven't a penny of other peoples hard earned cash, but even if I had things would still be going pretty damn slowly...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 06 June 2013, 12:59:28
Hey guys sorry about not getting the response up, life has in no way going my way (murphy's law is a *****). I know what your going to think/say when i say this but ill do my best to post responses and reply to pms/emails before the start of next week. Before you ask I will most likely not be posting anything today as i wont be sitting down near a computer long enough to do so.

^^ this is better than nothing!

Whatever your dealing with, I hope this all gets worked out.

Not really.  Just like the rest of his posts, you got ZERO information from this post.

But he posted....... at least......
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 06 June 2013, 17:10:52
Maybe he doesn't want to share his personal life with the world at large - my world domination silver key-cap plan has been stalled since about the same time as profs issues started.  I appreciated the difference being that I haven't a penny of other peoples hard earned cash, but even if I had things would still be going pretty damn slowly...

No one is asking about his personal life.  I know I for one could care less about someone I've never met.  I do however care that someone whom is holding my money will not give a proper update.  All updates are a string of useless information.

things are hard
I'm busy
things are happening


always super vague, never any information.  Pretty much the same as no post at all.  SUPER annoying
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 06 June 2013, 17:19:01
Update: updates are coming at an undetermined date.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: digi on Fri, 07 June 2013, 17:12:19
I'm posting on page 29 to see how many more pages there are before you guys receive your switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Fri, 07 June 2013, 19:17:39
Update: There will be no update today. Maybe tomorrow but most likely no update tomorrow either. Next week, maybe.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 07 June 2013, 20:46:59
FYI, I just got an update from the prof

Sumation of update:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Fri, 07 June 2013, 20:52:02
FYI, I just got an update from the prof

Sumation of update:


Expectations: met
Hopes: not met

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 07 June 2013, 21:12:15
I always wondered why people were trusting him to build their keyboards when it took him half a year to mod **** up my capslock. And he never gave a refund for that either. It has been next to me on my desk ever since as a reminder to always mod stuff myself.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Fri, 07 June 2013, 21:15:22
I always wondered why people were trusting him to build their keyboards when it took him half a year to mod **** up my capslock. And he never gave a refund for that either. It has been next to me on my desk ever since as a reminder to always mod stuff myself.

I've alluded to this before. Some of us who were around when he had his subforum remember this quite clearly. I believe he held other's caps for months without modding them. MONTHS.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 07 June 2013, 21:28:10
I always wondered why people were trusting him to build their keyboards when it took him half a year to mod **** up my capslock. And he never gave a refund for that either. It has been next to me on my desk ever since as a reminder to always mod stuff myself.

I've alluded to this before. Some of us who were around when he had his subforum remember this quite clearly. I believe he held other's caps for months without modding them. MONTHS.

I am out $14.21 by my count, which is a lot less than everyone here, but I learned my lesson. I will never buy anything (ESPECIALLY modding) from TheProfosist ever again. I will however still sell to TheProfosist if he wants something, and he would get his stuff in a timely manner.

EDIT: Almost every time I go to the "Who's Online" section to see what people are doing, I look to see what he's doing while he's online, but it always says "Unknown Action"... Does that bug anyone else?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Fri, 07 June 2013, 22:06:12
That's because nobody else knows what the hell he's doing either. :))
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 07 June 2013, 23:06:54
this thread depresses me and I can't do **** so **** it, Ima do what I want


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Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: demik on Sat, 08 June 2013, 00:07:12
profosist likes to disappear randomly every few months
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: tjcaustin on Sat, 08 June 2013, 00:09:10
profosist likes to disappear randomly every few months

"Not live his life on geekhack"
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: demik on Sat, 08 June 2013, 00:12:03
but loves to make promises on gh
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sat, 08 June 2013, 00:52:22
...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 08 June 2013, 13:21:31
I've alluded to this before. Some of us who were around when he had his subforum remember this quite clearly. I believe he held other's caps for months without modding them. MONTHS.

Being new at the time, I didn't know issues others had with TP. Everything appeared well organized at the start and the fact that WFD and SmallFry were involved it seemed like a no brainer.

Live and learn.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 08 June 2013, 13:24:29
I thought that this buy would go well also, I didn't remember Prof going MIA before, so I hopped in on the GB. My appologies.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 08 June 2013, 13:40:50
I thought that this buy would go well also, I didn't remember Prof going MIA before, so I hopped in on the GB. My appologies.

No need to apologize. The Profosist surrounded himself with reputable people, such as yourself, to add credibility to his GB. No fault of yours SmallFry.

If anything, it's because of you and WFD that we have any insight into what's going on. So, thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 08 June 2013, 13:42:33
Heh, I'm just a sitting duck nowadays, he blocked me on gchat almost a month ago.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Sat, 08 June 2013, 14:02:54
Heh, I'm just a sitting duck nowadays, he blocked me on gchat almost a month ago.
lolololololololol

Professional. I feel that if he is reading this I should remind him he is dealing with ~$6000 in money and goods. Probably shouldn't block people. Just ignore them and say you were busy! :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 08 June 2013, 14:26:56
profosist likes to disappear randomly every few months

"Not live his life on geekhack"

You don't need to live your life on GH, just answer a couple questions "directly", in a time frame under 6 months.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 08 June 2013, 21:48:54
i just hope he started sorting. 3000 switches is going to take some time to sort by himself unless 7-bit pre-sorted them.

i wanted to build my phantom with clears...... doubt i will have the patience to wait, may just have to swap out stems and springs later and just use these reds or blues i have.

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 08 June 2013, 22:10:07
Finally a real PM to me with actual substance, after a very long time of waiting. I'll just post it here.

tl;dr - Prof has no income and zero money left to buy the remaining parts or to ship out your stuff. He's waiting on money from Massdrop, but I doubt that will be enough for everything. You may have to pay him (again?) to ship out stuff or for stabilizers/LEDs.



I'm already picking up your slack. Tell me why you charge $8 for stabs and I need to sell for a loss? You keep the profit from assembly and parts while I have to do all your work? If you can't even pay me money that's not even part of the assembly and GB parts, money that you personally owe me, which you kept promising to pay me a long time ago, what makes me believe that you'll actually refund people for these parts once massdrop pays you?


I shortened this up as I didnt feel like re-writing everything I wrote before and lost.

what slack of mine are you picking up?

why i charged $8 is because thats what it was for the lowest tier + the cost of a wire from you. And I would love to keep the profit if i had any.

What do yo umean while I have to do all your work? I plan to build all the boards because I cant pay anyone.

The not haveing any money from the GB is 100% my poor planning aparently and not watching everything very carefully as I was paying for it, so ill attest to that. Ill get you the money for the stuff you have been holding for me as i just stated in my last PM but im have to sell the stuff, I hope thats alright with you. You dont have to believe me, no one every has any real reason to believe anyone, especially over the internet. All I have to say though is though I may take some time I have always gotten people their stuff or money in the end and though you may not believe me I never considered not getting them what I said I would.

The instant I have money from Massdrop I can send it to you instead if you wish then you can just refund the money you were sent (if your the one thats going to collect it). I dont know if thats any better or if anyone will even go for that idea/plan. I just want to do something that will will get this GB to the point where I can start shipping out parts and building keyboards. The sooner this happens the better, I need to get this GB over and outa my life.


What slack? Answering PMs from people that ask me what's going on. Reorganize my spreadsheet and bavman's spreadsheet where everything should go. There were also a bunch of people that requested for me to handle their package, rather than you handling it. I've been in back and forth communication with these guys, and it does take up my time work with them. I'm combining shipping for some of these packages, and will be sending it directly to them as requested, rather than passing it on to you. Some of them already went out. So even after all this, you still want me to send out individual PM to the whole GB, asking them to pay me directly for stabilizers, which you had already collected money for? Is it really my job to contact everyone, and mange payment again?


So all your personal stuff that I'm holding for you and helped you pay for them... basically you kept making empty promises of paying me back for them, then now you finally tell me you're going to sell it? You could have told me this 6 months ago or try to sell it a while ago so that my money isn't held up, and I'm not stuck with your personal stuff at my place. Now after you sell them, it's my time and responsibility to package and ship them out? Seriously... wtf is this...


Your last response was the first one in a while that you actually said something. But you still need to be more specific, because I need to know, and I'm sure everyone else would like to know as well. You've collected all payments already, and even more than what the parts costs since they've already paid for the assembly fees. Where did all this money go if you did not spend it for your personal things? If 7bit charged you more for switches than what he initially said, you shouldn't have placed the order until you worked out the budget. How much did you end up paying for the switches? How much were the PLU keyboards? How many ergo-dox do you need to assemble, and how much total money is massdrop paying you? Did people already pay you for the shipping costs in advance? If you can't even find the time to give updates or respond, how are you going to have time to build everything and package/ship them out? Just do some quick number crunching man. I don't think what massdrop will pay you, will be enough to cover all your "debt". You still need to pay for stabilizers, (shipping to each person?), and personal money you owe me.

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sat, 08 June 2013, 22:13:24
Hopefully it won't be a week or more of no response, and that post only the relevant PM in public will make him respond faster. Or at least tell everyone else what's going on instead of just me.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sat, 08 June 2013, 22:20:15
Good to hear, let me know if I should be doing anything on my end (being close to him and all)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 08 June 2013, 23:02:48
****ing ridiculous. if anything you just made me ****ing angrier by sharing that WFD

Oh and aside from the phantom stuff, are there ****ing ErgoDox parts chilling at his house? Hell, Round 2 of ErgoDox has reached most people this week and there are like 8 people are still waiting on their round 1 to be built by him if i am not mistaken. wtf.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Sat, 08 June 2013, 23:10:45
How much money is he out? Kind of sucks I'll have my GH60 before this.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 08 June 2013, 23:11:25
How much money is he out? Kind of sucks I'll have my GH60 before this.

I kinda doubt that you'll have a GH60 before this phantom
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Sat, 08 June 2013, 23:17:30
How much money is he out? Kind of sucks I'll have my GH60 before this.

I kinda doubt that you'll have a GH60 before this phantom
White switches + assembly....

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Sat, 08 June 2013, 23:39:22
This guy.. jumps on every opportunity, takes every assembling groupbuy there is, and be as irresponsible as he can after.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:39:58
It is right that some switches were more expensive. That is because I told him a price for the stuff I've got in stock, not for stuff which I've got to order for him. Prices have changed over time.

However, I've lowered them, so the 990 extra clears are now 0.42 EUR or $0.55 like the rest of the switches.
The price for the extra whites is now 0.54 EUR ($0.70) as for anybody else.

I still need to get 101.83 EUR ($132.38) from him. Shipping for this order was only 4 EUR ($5.20), because I charge shipping only once, no matter how much is ordered.

I'm still waiting for the whites which should be delivered by the end of July.

Here is his price list, BTW:
Code: [Select]
$0.60 - MXBLACK     (MX1A-11NN) - BACKORDERED
$0.60 - MXBLUE     (MX1A-E1NN)
$0.60 - MXBROWN     (MX1A-G1NN)
$0.60 - MXRED     (MX1A-L1NN)
$0.60 - MXCLEAR     (MX1A-C1NN) - BACKORDERED
$0.85 - MXGREEN     (MX1A-F1NN)
$0.65 - MXWHITE     (MX1A-A1NN) - BACKORDERED
$0.85 - MXGREY     (MX1A-D1NN)
$0.85 - MXDARKGREY     (MX1A-21NN)
$4.25 - MXLOCK     (MX1A-31NN) - BACKORDERED

He got for switches (according to his pricelist):
((3939-304-22-2)*0.6+0.85*(304+22)+4.25*2) == $2452.20

He paid so far:
1608.68 EUR == $2091.28

He still needs to pay:
101.83 EUR == $132.38

Under the (false) assumption that every switch costs only 0.42 EUR ($0.55):
(3939*0.42+4)*1.3 == $2155.89

So he has to pay $67.77 more than he thought.

So he should have 2452.20-2091.28 == $360.92 left at this point.

After paying the rest, there are still $228.54 left.

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:47:57
I'm out.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:51:17
I'm out.

(http://i.imgur.com/caxi9Xe.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:54:13
I'm out.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/caxi9Xe.gif)


Go away, kiddo.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:57:18
Go away, kiddo.

Oh I'm sorry. Here let me join the hate train, uhh.... TheProfosist is literally the Wisconsin hitler, le xD. can I stay now?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:58:12
nope.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: kmiller8 on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:59:34
(http://i.imgur.com/gxKQhyx.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Sun, 09 June 2013, 00:59:40
$8 for stabilizers?! I've sold a few bags worth at $1 per stabilizer... (75cents for WFD)

TheProfosist was also a dropout of my Krytox GPL 200 GB... Why did he order one in the first place?!... He said he didn't have any money, but that same day he bought a GirlDC black whale and 3 aluminum spacebars! (Over $200!!)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 09 June 2013, 01:01:32
well... that would certainly explain the lack of money...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Sun, 09 June 2013, 01:15:26
well... that would certainly explain the lack of money...

Except that I had already bought the tube for him, and he owed me the money for it. Someone else had to cover for his order.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 09 June 2013, 01:23:04
You can view your order here please pm me if you need to change anything http://tinyurl.com/afxd5o8

Quick number crunching. According to this spreadsheet, he has collected $6004 + paypal fees. He still has not ordered stabilizers ($456), LEDs ($156), still owes 7bit ($132), and still owes me ($225). That is a $969 deficit. Assuming no parts were for profit, he still collected $1255 in assembly fees.

So basically that is $2,224 that is unaccounted for. Either a terrible miscalculation on his part, or that GB money he collected was spent on personal things. I just cannot believe this.... someone check my math.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Sun, 09 June 2013, 01:50:19
You can view your order here please pm me if you need to change anything http://tinyurl.com/afxd5o8

Quick number crunching. According to this spreadsheet, he has collected $6004 + paypal fees. He still has not ordered stabilizers ($456), LEDs ($156), still owes 7bit ($132), and still owes me ($225). That is a $969 deficit. Assuming no parts were for profit, he still collected $1255 in assembly fees.

So basically that is $2,224 that is unaccounted for. Either a terrible miscalculation on his part, or that GB money he collected was spent on personal things. I just cannot believe this.... someone check my math.

He ordered fewer switches as in the graphic (3939 instead of 4755).

Some people did not pay or jumped off, but he did not update the list.

I'm not sure if this had any effect on volume rebates. Did not effect the switches however, as the price stayed the same.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 09 June 2013, 01:51:36
Just added it all up from the  spreadsheet. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuzaglYTy1FjdFlvNGlNVWFtdE1fd3djZ2VXa2pUVEE&usp=sharing) My data may also be irrelevant compared to WFD etc. Just sharing what I have to offer.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Sun, 09 June 2013, 02:06:49
I don't think you can count the ergo-dox stuff with this GB. He didn't buy them all himself, and massdrop hasn't given him the assembly money for them yet (according to him).
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 09 June 2013, 02:10:51
Took it out of the spread sheet then. Whoops.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Sun, 09 June 2013, 02:48:47
After paying the rest, there are still $228.54 left.

How much has he spent in GroupBuy's and sales since then though?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 09 June 2013, 02:50:32
(http://blog.mainstreethost.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Dr.-Evil-One-Million-Dollars.png)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Sun, 09 June 2013, 02:52:54
So I've been waiting and hoping things would get rolling but it seems it is at a stand still.

This is what I gather as of right now, please correct me if I'm wrong. The Prof is waiting on more switches, but even if he got the switches he does not have the pcbs or plates to start building. He is broke and can not buy the remaing parts to complete builds some of the people listed. We continue the waiting game.

I sent my QFR to him months ago to be salvaged for switches and stabilizers, so I'm ok in that regard but the plates and pcbs won't be shipping to him because of obvious reasons. I'm not even sure what the next step is. I kind of just want to cut my loses and have somebody like Smallfry pick up the stuff from him. At least then I'm just losing the assembly money.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Sun, 09 June 2013, 02:58:05
So? we have to pay for shipping again? ok, how many months for this to happen?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: cgbuen on Sun, 09 June 2013, 03:01:21
Here's some info (mainly ErgoDox-related) I've been able to gather that might be helpful, if anyone is looking for some more info to this knowledge-base of a thread:

In late January/early February, I ordered an ErgoDox without switches & ErgoDox assembly from him via the MassDrop "GB" for it, and I also ordered MX Whites via this Phantom Parts GB. The plan was to have the Dox built with those MX Whites. In early April, MD mistakenly sent me an unassembled ErgoDox, but I told them I wanted it assembled, like I've ordered it. They sent me a label to send it to him. I've sent it to him and the tracking said it was delivered - again, this was about two months ago.

Via this thread, MX Whites might not be available at the moment (or at least not all of them) because 7bit did not quite have enough available prior to the pre-order status that they're currently in (which should end by July or something). Also, SF has said something like Prof doesn't want to build ErgoDoxes until he has all the parts from this Phantom GB.

MD has not charged me for the assembly at any point. That might be a holdup through this whole situation. But it's kind of weird how it's all kind of coming around in circles (the possibility that MD doesn't want to charge buyers to give to Prof until they know the builds are going to happen; him not wanting to build until he has parts; not being able to get all parts because of what's available/what he still owes 7bit via cash he needs to get from MD).

And until I get anything I'm down ~$310 (aluminum Dox, MX Whites) with the possibility of $60 more (assembly that hasn't been charged yet).
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 09 June 2013, 03:11:24
Didn't he sell some of his Korean keyboards earlier this year as well?

EDIT: Looks like it was late last year/early this year that a lot of stuff was sold. And then there was his auctioning services.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Sun, 09 June 2013, 04:40:21
It's a good thing he didn't get any GH60 orders as well. I still find it 'interesting' that he has links to his downfall in his signature...

I think he has a spending problem, and needs psychiatric help. (Of course I just received 60 more pounds of POS boards today >$1100...)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 09 June 2013, 08:35:24
There's got to be a way to triage this GB....

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 June 2013, 10:08:11
There is most certainly a way to save this GB. But the only person who could do it is TheProfosist himself. He needs to visit his bank and take out a personal loan. Then he could ship out the parts he has on hand, and refund people who have requested it. If he can't handle the assembly services himself, he needs to contract with someone else to take over that work, and pay them the money he has already collected for assembly. Then he can pay back the loan on his own, without tying up other people's money or goods while he gets his finances in order.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Sun, 09 June 2013, 10:25:39
NINJA loans aren't real.

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/011/767/35nksf.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Sun, 09 June 2013, 10:28:45
There is most certainly a way to save this GB. But the only person who could do it is TheProfosist himself. He needs to visit his bank and take out a personal loan. Then he could ship out the parts he has on hand, and refund people who have requested it. If he can't handle the assembly services himself, he needs to contract with someone else to take over that work, and pay them the money he has already collected for assembly. Then he can pay back the loan on his own, without tying up other people's money or goods while he gets his finances in order.

Strange, when i said that he have to ship what he have in his hands and refund what he can't ship they said that this is a gb and not a vendor sell, that this is unreasonable...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Sun, 09 June 2013, 12:10:18
at what point do we fill out a police report?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 09 June 2013, 12:33:27
lol like the police would care

edit for clarity: don't confuse criminal matters with civil matters
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 09 June 2013, 12:44:33
at what point do we fill out a police report?

A police report would do no good, as it is a civil matter, mostly. I say mostly, because fraud is a criminal offense. You could always contact the attorney general of Wisconsin, for advice on how to pursue criminal charges.

For civil remedy, probably the best way to start would be to send what is called a "demand letter" to him, via certified mail, return receipt requested. That would at least go to show a small claims court that you had pursued your available options toward getting your money returned or goods sent. If you need his address, I'm sure someone has done business with him here before, and could possibly have that information. Or maybe just a good internet search.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Sun, 09 June 2013, 13:07:35
SF has said something like Prof doesn't want to build ErgoDoxes until he has all the parts from this Phantom GB.
I apologize for any confusion, but I don't think that Prof can assemble the eDoxen currently due to not having all the parts from Massdrop, not this GB.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: affect656 on Sun, 09 June 2013, 20:50:03
Willing to just cut losses and pay him to ship my PLU-87 somewhere else
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Sun, 09 June 2013, 20:54:11
Willing to just cut losses and pay him to ship my PLU-87 somewhere else

You're just risking losing even more money...

I wonder if he used the money from this to pay off some other debt of his.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Sun, 09 June 2013, 21:47:38
Actually it is a serious matter, Fraud, theft, whatever, once you cross $400 or $500 I forget which.  Then you have crossing multiple state lines.  To the laymen it may not seem like much, but $6000 over multiple state lines is more serious than you may think.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sun, 09 June 2013, 23:33:36
Actually it is a serious matter, Fraud, theft, whatever, once you cross $400 or $500 I forget which.  Then you have crossing multiple state lines.  To the laymen it may not seem like much, but $6000 over multiple state lines is more serious than you may think.

It would be nice if you could go crying to the cops every time a deal goes bad but you can't.  If there's any possibility that the deal is legit, the government won't get involved.  Even crooked contractors that make off with $15 grand after dropping off a yard sign and a wheelbarrow don't get pursued.  "They dropped off that wheelbarrow, they must have done something!"  It happens every day.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 10 June 2013, 01:18:48
man this guy is like the most hated person on geek hack right now, I seriously doubt he will respond anymore.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 10 June 2013, 01:41:45
He's not yelling us everything. He obviously spent the money somewhere else and has no reason to spill the truth. Something to him is more important than a couple dozen people and the validity of his words.
Is he on crack? Is he visiting the casino? Does he owe daddy money? Is it the Mafia?
It seems nothing anyone has said have been more important than what he's been using his money on.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 10 June 2013, 01:57:05
You can view your order here please pm me if you need to change anything http://tinyurl.com/afxd5o8

Quick number crunching. According to this spreadsheet, he has collected $6004 + paypal fees. He still has not ordered stabilizers ($456), LEDs ($156), still owes 7bit ($132), and still owes me ($225). That is a $969 deficit. Assuming no parts were for profit, he still collected $1255 in assembly fees.

So basically that is $2,224 that is unaccounted for. Either a terrible miscalculation on his part, or that GB money he collected was spent on personal things. I just cannot believe this.... someone check my math.

He ordered fewer switches as in the graphic (3939 instead of 4755).

Some people did not pay or jumped off, but he did not update the list.

I'm not sure if this had any effect on volume rebates. Did not effect the switches however, as the price stayed the same.
He obviously owes money but that may be a poor representation on how much money he actually collected.

Many people changed their orders. I for one changed my order for mx whites a long time ago, I was charged for whites but the public spreadsheet never changed. I found it a little odd and contacting him about it was a pain.

Is the public spreadsheet strategically not updated to throw us off?

He "recently" shared his excel document that was claimed to have orders correctly represented. I have it on my desktop.
I hope everyone downloaded it and checked if the document represents what they've been charged and post here to confirm.
More people need to speak up. Wether it's "my order is correct" or "my order is incorrect".
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 June 2013, 02:11:31
Is he on crack?

This could cause major shipping issues....



Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 11 June 2013, 02:34:34
Just send 90 MX clear to alaric so he can assemble it, send it to me and reach my hand before I left my country. THANK YOU!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Tue, 11 June 2013, 02:57:05
He answered to my mail and he state he will ship my items "soon as I borrowed a accurate enough scale to weigh the switches and just bought some batteries for it (gah button batteries are way too expensive)."

Have i to to laugh or to cry?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Tue, 11 June 2013, 03:48:25
An accurate scale using button cells?! :eek:

Pics or it doesn't exist.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 11 June 2013, 04:09:19
He answered to my mail and he state he will ship my items "soon as I borrowed a accurate enough scale to weigh the switches and just bought some batteries for it (gah button batteries are way too expensive)."

Have i to to laugh or to cry?

OK, PROF you count 90 mx clears. NO NEED WEIGHT just count 90 pieces of MX clears. send to Alaric I'll pay the postage for my mx clears.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Tue, 11 June 2013, 04:16:52
I count switches by putting them in piles of 5, 4 across. That's 20 per row, and it's a very easy and accurate method. It takes barely any time at all.

If he's counting switches by weighing them, then people aren't going to get the amount they paid for. They'll be getting +/- a few.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:01:48
So he has 3 complete boards from me, lots of keys etc .. what can I do now ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:17:11
We are all in a waiting game to see what TheProfosist has to say for himself. Only then will we know just how boned we are.  :-\
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:20:28
I have some IRC logs from last night, but I was a bit pissy. I can post them later if you guys want. TL;DR He still claims he can assemble the boards and that he will find money for stabs to assemble them. He has no idea where the stab money is coming from.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:24:20
I hope he can do math and count the switches ASAP.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Paranoid on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:30:25
I asked for a refund before this thing blew up since he hadn't even ordered the stabs or leds. I only ordered one stab set and two leds so I don't see the harm in that but of course no response what so ever :) hard to do of course when you have no money..
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:42:38
I have some IRC logs from last night, but I was a bit pissy. I can post them later if you guys want. TL;DR He still claims he can assemble the boards and that he will find money for stabs to assemble them. He has no idea where the stab money is coming from.

Yeah, like anyone wants him touching their board. Jeebus!


I asked for a refund before this thing blew up since he hadn't even ordered the stabs or leds. I only ordered one stab set and two leds so I don't see the harm in that but of course no response what so ever :) hard to do of course when you have no money..

I ordered a PLU and full assembly services, so I'm out $164.

It's like we're having to deal with a child that won't come out of his room. I keep thinking that we should call his daddy and have him sort this thing all out.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:44:53
It's like we're having to deal with a child that won't come out of his room. I keep thinking that we should call his daddy and have him sort this thing all out.

Mashby keeping it real. If only life were still this simple (it used to be).  8)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Tue, 11 June 2013, 08:46:26
I hope he can do math and count the switches ASAP.

Maybe we can have a whip round to buy him something like this
http://www.shimadzu.com/an/balance/analytical/auw-d.html
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Jupiter on Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:08:06
I hope he can do math and count the switches ASAP.

Maybe we can have a whip round to buy him something like this
http://www.shimadzu.com/an/balance/analytical/auw-d.html

He doesn't need a scale. He simply needs to spend 30 seconds counting each lot out.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:15:02
He doesn't need a scale. He simply needs to spend 30 seconds counting each lot out.

The scale is probably for shipping, or at least I would hope.  I just bought myself a cheap kitchen scale for that.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:20:38
I count switches by putting them in piles of 5, 4 across. That's 20 per row, and it's a very easy and accurate method. It takes barely any time at all.

If he's counting switches by weighing them, then people aren't going to get the amount they paid for. They'll be getting +/- a few.
I count them by pairs.

I weight 7 bags of 100 switches from an 800x box. One I count for reference and sometimes I count another bag to be sure. When it comes to packing of 90 switches, I take 10 out. If I pack 120 I add 20.

But surely it doesn't take too much more time to count all ca. 3300 switches.

ps: I hope he is aware of the fact that different types have different weights!
:o
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:32:07
I have counted thousands of browns with my method. I don't own a scale.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Tue, 11 June 2013, 17:56:34
I hope he can do math and count the switches ASAP.

Maybe we can have a whip round to buy him something like this
http://www.shimadzu.com/an/balance/analytical/auw-d.html

He doesn't need a scale. He simply needs to spend 30 seconds counting each lot out.

I was trying to be sarcastic, that scale costs around $3500
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 11 June 2013, 19:40:21
Guys I am alive (contrary to some beliefs) and I wont let you guys be boned (no matter how much some of you seem to want to be). If any of you have read the pm that WFD *kindly* posted. This should include my idea to get all of you guys your stabs. This will allow me to ship them and start building boards. So, im looking for someone to kindly collect the money via goods and send to WFD as gift.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 11 June 2013, 20:25:04
Guys I am alive (contrary to some beliefs) and I wont let you guys be boned (no matter how much some of you seem to want to be). If any of you have read the pm that WFD *kindly* posted. This should include my idea to get all of you guys your stabs. This will allow me to ship them and start building boards. So, im looking for someone to kindly collect the money via goods and send to WFD as gift.

How much is outstanding?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 11 June 2013, 22:04:18
All Blue, Brown, Red, Clear, and Green switches have been accounted for by weight. Also I checked everywhere and have received no Grey, Dark Grey, or Lock switches at this time and will be PMing 7bit about this right after this post goes up.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Tue, 11 June 2013, 22:09:27
If stabs were already paid for what money is there to be collected so that WFD can be paid?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 11 June 2013, 22:11:52
He has not paid for the stabilizers. WFD is holding the PCBs until that point (or at least we can get this GB out of Prof's hands, I think.)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Tue, 11 June 2013, 22:17:18
He may have not paid for the stabilizers but I know I sent him money for the sets I ordered and I imagine others have as well. Are people expected to pay for them again because he spent the money on other things?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Tue, 11 June 2013, 22:28:22
Nobody is sure at the moment. :/
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Tue, 11 June 2013, 22:31:47
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Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 11 June 2013, 22:56:53
WTF is this bull****.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Tue, 11 June 2013, 22:59:36
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpzmqsohLJ1qi7mx3.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Wed, 12 June 2013, 00:32:04
Prof, you still need to answer the specific questions from my last PM. There is over $2,000 not accounted for. What exactly happened to the rest of this money? And please take a picture of all the PLUs that you supposedly have.



So, im looking for someone to kindly collect the money via goods and send to WFD as gift.

Basically he is asking for someone to volunteer to contact everyone that ordered stabilizers, collect all money for stabs AGAIN, then send it to me in one large lump so I can ship him the plates, PCBs, and stabs. If you read the PMs here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38471.msg922661#msg922661) again, you can see mentions of this exact thing I just said. Yes that's right, he wants you to pay for stabilizers again, something that he already collected money for. Not only that, someone else (except him) must send PMs to everyone in this GB and manage the payments.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SmallFry on Wed, 12 June 2013, 00:39:25
WFD, I sent you a PM. Just letting  you know as I'm sure you get a sea of them daily.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Wed, 12 June 2013, 01:11:44
TheProf, get a job. Man up and pay your debts with your money. Stop being so selfish and think if you were in our position. It is not how you should treat another person.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Wed, 12 June 2013, 02:24:44
Got a life-sign from TheProfosist: He can't find the 2 MX lock and the 22 dark greys. I'm not sure if he did not find them because he did not open the bags when weighting or if I really forgot these, but to speed up things I will ship these today.

He also asked me about greys, but he did not order them.

Did some of you order greys?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 12 June 2013, 09:34:05
Why would you ship him even more switches?... He just roughly weighed the bags, so I am 99% sure they are in there (7bit is slow, but you ALWAYS get your switches).

I know it's not anyone else's responsibility, but someone should go over there and document everything (and slap him). And maybe just take everything so it can be shipped to it's rightful owners. Then he could just be banned from the Classifieds, GroupBuys, and Interest Checks until he pays back EVERYTHING he owes to everybody. Maybe get his parents involved as well so they can shake the money out of their son.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 12 June 2013, 09:56:57
Why would you ship him even more switches?... He just roughly weighed the bags, so I am 99% sure they are in there (7bit is slow, but you ALWAYS get your switches).

I know it's not anyone else's responsibility, but someone should go over there and document everything (and slap him). And maybe just take everything so it can be shipped to it's rightful owners. Then he could just be banned from the Classifieds, GroupBuys, and Interest Checks until he pays back EVERYTHING he owes to everybody. Maybe get his parents involved as well so they can shake the money out of their son.

Are you suggesting B&E and assault?  Yeah that's a good plan. </sarcasm>
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 12 June 2013, 09:58:54
It's not B&E if you are just retrieving stolen property, and since when is a slap assault?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 12 June 2013, 10:14:39
That's not a serious post, right?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 12 June 2013, 10:15:06
It's not B&E if you are just retrieving stolen property, and since when is a slap assault?

In Texas it can be.

Quote
PENAL CODE

TITLE 5. OFFENSES AGAINST THE PERSON

CHAPTER 22. ASSAULTIVE OFFENSES

Sec. 22.01.  ASSAULT.  (a)  A person commits an offense if the person:
(1)  intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causes bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse; 
(2)  intentionally or knowingly threatens another with imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse;  or
(3)  intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Tym on Wed, 12 June 2013, 10:16:44
It's not B&E if you are just retrieving stolen property, and since when is a slap assault?
Slapping someone over hear can we perceived as assault, you can be taken to court for it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 12 June 2013, 10:25:22
^ I consider that spelling assault :P
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Tym on Wed, 12 June 2013, 10:26:25
It's not B&E if you are just retrieving stolen property, and since when is a slap assault?
Slapping someone over here can be perceived as assault, you can be taken to court for it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Tym on Wed, 12 June 2013, 10:26:48
SCREW YOU MODIFY, WHY U NO WORK?!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 12 June 2013, 10:42:00
All Blue, Brown, Red, Clear, and Green switches have been accounted for by weight. Also I checked everywhere and have received no Grey, Dark Grey, or Lock switches at this time and will be PMing 7bit about this right after this post goes up.
send mine to alaric assap thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Batmann on Wed, 12 June 2013, 10:47:54
I just red the last 5 pages,
this is pretty scary, it looks like he overcommited in this GB
even if he was organized enough and willing to do it, that assembly work is huge for one man to handle.


Anyway I feel sorry for you guys waiting for your boards and I hope this is gonna end up soon and well.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Fri, 14 June 2013, 04:52:02
So when will you start with the two boards of mine ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 14 June 2013, 17:51:09
Got a life-sign from TheProfosist: He can't find the 2 MX lock and the 22 dark greys. I'm not sure if he did not find them because he did not open the bags when weighting or if I really forgot these, but to speed up things I will ship these today.

He also asked me about greys, but he did not order them.

Did some of you order greys?

me, now he have to refund, RIGHT?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 14 June 2013, 18:06:42
If he never ordered items for which we have given to him money and he don't want to refund i think we can officially call him A SCAMMER
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 14 June 2013, 20:31:55
Got a life-sign from TheProfosist: He can't find the 2 MX lock and the 22 dark greys. I'm not sure if he did not find them because he did not open the bags when weighting or if I really forgot these, but to speed up things I will ship these today.

He also asked me about greys, but he did not order them.

Did some of you order greys?

me, now he have to refund, RIGHT?

I ordered grey's as well ... great!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Mon, 17 June 2013, 02:05:44
All Blue, Brown, Red, Clear, and Green switches have been accounted for by weight. Also I checked everywhere and have received no Grey, Dark Grey, or Lock switches at this time and will be PMing 7bit about this right after this post goes up.

when will you start building the boards ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 19 June 2013, 14:31:59
Guys I am alive (contrary to some beliefs) and I wont let you guys be boned (no matter how much some of you seem to want to be). If any of you have read the pm that WFD *kindly* posted. This should include my idea to get all of you guys your stabs. This will allow me to ship them and start building boards. So, im looking for someone to kindly collect the money via goods and send to WFD as gift.

A week since your last half-assed update.  Anything new information you care to share with us, or should we move forward in a different manner? Wisconsin Guide to Small Claims Court (http://www.wicourts.gov/publications/guides/smallclaimsguide.htm).

I'm not joking.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 19 June 2013, 14:50:43
For civil remedy, probably the best way to start would be to send what is called a "demand letter" to him, via certified mail, return receipt requested. That would at least go to show a small claims court that you had pursued your available options toward getting your money returned or goods sent. If you need his address, I'm sure someone has done business with him here before, and could possibly have that information. Or maybe just a good internet search.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Tym on Wed, 19 June 2013, 14:56:40
For civil remedy, probably the best way to start would be to send what is called a "demand letter" to him, via certified mail, return receipt requested. That would at least go to show a small claims court that you had pursued your available options toward getting your money returned or goods sent. If you need his address, I'm sure someone has done business with him here before, and could possibly have that information. Or maybe just a good internet search.
Surely the amount of requests for information would cover the demand letter eventuality?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 19 June 2013, 15:39:42
I just wanted clear switches, switches you probably have now but can't afford to ship to me. At this point even ordering them on mouser for that ridiculous cost would have been better because TIME IS MONEY.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 19 June 2013, 16:53:36
For civil remedy, probably the best way to start would be to send what is called a "demand letter" to him, via certified mail, return receipt requested. That would at least go to show a small claims court that you had pursued your available options toward getting your money returned or goods sent. If you need his address, I'm sure someone has done business with him here before, and could possibly have that information. Or maybe just a good internet search.
If someone wants to do this, as part of my payment was my Vortex aluminum case that I sent to him so I should have a record of his address.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 19 June 2013, 17:25:11
For civil remedy, probably the best way to start would be to send what is called a "demand letter" to him, via certified mail, return receipt requested. That would at least go to show a small claims court that you had pursued your available options toward getting your money returned or goods sent. If you need his address, I'm sure someone has done business with him here before, and could possibly have that information. Or maybe just a good internet search.

Yes, that would be the first step.


If someone wants to do this, as part of my payment was my Vortex aluminum case that I sent to him so I should have a record of his address.

That would be very helpful in getting the ball rolling. Please post here, or PM me privately if you prefer.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 19 June 2013, 17:26:49
PM sent, we don't need everyone and their mother sending him mail and ordering pizzas.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 20 June 2013, 01:02:03
Hi, have you count the clear switch yet? I don't think it's that difficult to count 90 switches and send it to Alaric.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Thu, 20 June 2013, 13:38:59
Been out for a week and still no update...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Thu, 20 June 2013, 20:23:01
sigh....

My LZ-GH longs for switches...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 21 June 2013, 02:08:12
sigh....

My LZ-GH longs for switches...

same here, somemore need Alaric to assemble it and send it to Malaysia AND i need to pray hard that it reaches Malaysia before I leave.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: bisl on Fri, 21 June 2013, 13:39:48
Sweet jesus, can we please stop bumping the thread with the same garbage about shipping to alaric
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 21 June 2013, 15:31:38
Are there any updates on the MX Whites, 7bit? Are they still coming out in July?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 21 June 2013, 15:41:25
If you guys like, I can take over updating for the profist for a while.

Here goes:

Don't worry guys.  I've received stuff in the mail.  I don't know why you're all getting so mad.  I've been updating all the time.  I already told you all that I got stuff in the mail. 

BTW, I"m really busy, so I don't know if I'll be able to update again for a while.  I hope that satisfies all you detail starved people out there.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: digi on Fri, 21 June 2013, 15:52:39

Don't worry guys.  I've received stuff in the mail.  I don't know why you're all getting so mad.  I've been updating all the time.  I already told you all that I got stuff in the mail. 

BTW, I"m really busy, so I don't know if I'll be able to update again for a while.  I hope that satisfies all you detail starved people out there.

I don't live my life on GH, I'm just logged in 24/7.

Fixed

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 22 June 2013, 16:50:46
**** this ****, i ordered 2 bills worth of switches. If you have the parts, **** yourself and ship this **** out for ****s sake. You really shouldn't be holding our **** for this long, it is just wrong. Prof i hope you actually feel genuine remorse after ****ing over all these people.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Sat, 22 June 2013, 23:02:03
Sweet jesus, can we please stop bumping the thread with the same garbage about shipping to alaric

I told him I'll pay for the postage to Alaric and all he needs to do only count and send it out. I don't see why I shouldn't keep remind him to do it as time is money and I'll only be in hometown for another 2 months. And fyi if you think it's garbage then ignore it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: okooko on Sun, 23 June 2013, 20:25:38
Sweet jesus, can we please stop bumping the thread with the same garbage about shipping to alaric

I told him I'll pay for the postage to Alaric and all he needs to do only count and send it out. I don't see why I shouldn't keep remind him to do it as time is money and I'll only be in hometown for another 2 months. And fyi if you think it's garbage then ignore it.

Same here, I've instructed him to send out my Clears with the money I paid for the assembly (which is more than enough) in many PMs.

Might need to find another source for switches, so I get my LZGH in this lifetime.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: blighty on Sun, 23 June 2013, 22:11:16
So, anyone have any leads on where to get Cherry stabs w/a 7unit spacebar wire?  Will a pcb-mount 7u wire work?  I tried to PM WFD about it, but I got no response. 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 23 June 2013, 22:33:56
Sweet jesus, can we please stop bumping the thread with the same garbage about shipping to alaric

I told him I'll pay for the postage to Alaric and all he needs to do only count and send it out. I don't see why I shouldn't keep remind him to do it as time is money and I'll only be in hometown for another 2 months. And fyi if you think it's garbage then ignore it.

Same here, I've instructed him to send out my Clears with the money I paid for the assembly (which is more than enough) in many PMs.

Might need to find another source for switches, so I get my LZGH in this lifetime.

The money you paid for assembly is apparently long gone. Seems he was irresponsible and spent it, along with shipping money, etc.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 24 June 2013, 12:59:06
Sweet jesus, can we please stop bumping the thread with the same garbage about shipping to alaric

I told him I'll pay for the postage to Alaric and all he needs to do only count and send it out. I don't see why I shouldn't keep remind him to do it as time is money and I'll only be in hometown for another 2 months. And fyi if you think it's garbage then ignore it.

Same here, I've instructed him to send out my Clears with the money I paid for the assembly (which is more than enough) in many PMs.

Might need to find another source for switches, so I get my LZGH in this lifetime.

The money you paid for assembly is apparently long gone. Seems he was irresponsible and spent it, along with shipping money, etc.
Wait, what? Even more of a reason I want it shipped to me and not TP. God knows if it ends up with him if I'll ever get it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Mon, 24 June 2013, 15:11:42
I told him I'll pay for the postage to Alaric and all he needs to do only count and send it out. I don't see why I shouldn't keep remind him to do it as time is money and I'll only be in hometown for another 2 months.

The lack money for shipping costs is only half the problem, so offering him money to ship it out won't fully resolve it. The bigger problem is his lack of communication and responsibility. If you send him shipping money, he's still not going to respond to you, nor care enough to ship it out.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 26 June 2013, 10:51:56
wtf is going on here?  I've been gone a week and not a single peep?  Can we please proceed with extra-forum strategies? 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 26 June 2013, 10:53:25
Let TheProfosist go down in history as the most shamed GH'er ever, with fewer friends than Ripster.  What a punk
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 26 June 2013, 11:54:21
Does anyone want to buy my spot on this one?  I have clears coming.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 26 June 2013, 11:56:02
Does anyone want to buy my spot on this one?  I have clears coming.

That'll be a tough sell, especially since it's doubtful that TheProfosist will ship out what he has on hand.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Tym on Wed, 26 June 2013, 11:57:00
Does anyone want to buy my spot on this one?  I have clears coming.
I really doubt that.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 26 June 2013, 12:07:46
wtf is going on here?  I've been gone a week and not a single peep?  Can we please proceed with extra-forum strategies? 

I have no part in this other than I had some interest in buying out a build at one point but now that option is looking very bleak.

Is there nothing that can be done? When does the scammer label come out?

If this isn't ripping people off then I don't know what is.

I know for the prof something(s) had to have happened in real life that were unavoidable but to let it turn into this, it is just awful.

There is always another side to a story and I really try to give people the benefit of the doubt.

There has just been a lot negative things going on around geekhack lately and I think it's bringing everybody down.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: bisl on Wed, 26 June 2013, 13:40:18
Let TheProfosist go down in history as the most shamed GH'er ever, with fewer friends than Ripster.  What a punk

How soon we forget Changdrew when it serves our purposes.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:41:17
I have no part in this other than I had some interest in buying out a build at one point but now that option is looking very bleak.

Is there nothing that can be done? When does the scammer label come out?

Pretty sure it already did.

If this isn't ripping people off then I don't know what is.

I know for the prof something(s) had to have happened in real life that were unavoidable but to let it turn into this, it is just awful.

My guess is drugs.

There is always another side to a story and I really try to give people the benefit of the doubt.

There has just been a lot negative things going on around geekhack lately and I think it's bringing everybody down.

We delved too deep and too greedily.  Prof took advantage.  I got burned out, too.  Just need to tie up this loose end and a few others.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:48:34
There is always another side to a story and I really try to give people the benefit of the doubt.

There has just been a lot negative things going on around geekhack lately and I think it's bringing everybody down.

We delved too deep and too greedily.  Prof took advantage.  I got burned out, too.  Just need to tie up this loose end and a few others.
The thing is, he has reported that he has some of the parts, so if he actually did buy them then he hasn't really made much, only that on assembly. Makes no sense why he won't ship it though.

It's no matter though, I know we've started at least with a letter though I don't know the state of that. Pending how that goes, this gets ugly (or uglier depending on your view).
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 26 June 2013, 14:59:05
surely this can still be resolved if he has some of the parts. I really hope i am not in denial that i lost over $200

if you can't afford to ship take out a credit card, do a title loan, **** yourself, get a job, get a second job, i don't know dude.

I am fearing this will never be resolved, Prof will be perma-banned, and i will be out of more than $200 and cherry switches.

It also messes up the flow of highly successful group buys lately!!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 26 June 2013, 15:49:03
You and me both out $200, but I doubt there will be any perma-ban unless someone starts trolling the mods again.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 26 June 2013, 16:36:32
I'm out of $240, maybe some mod will give him an award: best GH scammer of all times
btw i was refunded by Changdrew
It takes only 5 min. to REFUND the mx grey switches he has NEVER ORDERED, but he is just a SCAMMER...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 26 June 2013, 17:57:34
i am not ready to call him a certified scammer because of some good history with him and around the time i joined geekhack last year he seemed to be a respected member. I learned a few things from him actually. What the hell happened? just months before he sounded excited about building things and really seemed level headed then he starts talking about how he dont want to live your life on geek hack anymore.

but he is not a victim either!

It sounds like to me he is a broke young dude who made some seriously bad decisions with this group buy, did not disclose enough when this started, and we all got ****ed because of it. It doesn't seem like he listened to any warnings people like WFD gave him.

Again, i am not calling him a victim because at this point that we all have our pitchforks and torches out and there is nothing positive to say about Prof anymore, i doubt he will EVER really directly communicate with anyone here ever again because anything he says that is not related to our parts shipping or refunding people will be taken negatively. I think because of our feedback we will never get clear status updates, we are victims and he isn't but its just the truth--he is human and this is the natural human reaction to these comments.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 26 June 2013, 18:36:14
He got scared?
IMHO the worst part is that we've been fooled by him posting nothingness every once in awhile for months.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: okooko on Wed, 26 June 2013, 19:20:55
My past purchases from the Prof had always been smooth (couple of CCs and a Topre set) and never had any issues.

But just this GB has really pushed it with, i'd imagine, a big bunch of people and much money has been potentially lost.
'
Waiting for this to come through, I've missed many opportunities to buy more switches which has further delayed my current projects...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 27 June 2013, 13:04:00
A couple of weeks ago, I found TheProfosist on the IRC channel and had a brief conversation with. Unfortunately I don't have a log of the conversation, but he was too distracted with the E3 announcements he was watching to do much in the way of answering my questions.

I tried to confirm that he had the PLU keyboards and see if he would ship it to me so that I could build up the board myself, but I never got a straight answer. Since then, I haven't seen him on IRC.

I assume he lives with his parents. Does anyone happen to know how old he is?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Thu, 27 June 2013, 13:05:02
Prof is ~25.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 27 June 2013, 13:08:29
Prof is ~25.

Of legal age. Good to know. Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 27 June 2013, 13:18:55
He has been completely doxed.  That discussion can be moved offline.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Thu, 27 June 2013, 13:32:23
Because some people asked me about direct shipping of whites, once I got them:

I did not ship any whites (628), locks (2) or dark greys (22) yet.

He paid me 224.13 EUR more than I've shipped, so in theory I could ship switches directly for 4 EUR extra (or free if you paid TheAmateurist for shipping already) until the positive balance is used up.

The only problem is to know if you really paid and nothing got refunded etc.

According to the wiki, there are 23 dark greys ordered, one too many.
628 whites matches with what TheAmateurist ordered from me.
3 locks is one too many.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Thu, 27 June 2013, 13:34:05
A couple of weeks ago, I found TheProfosist on the IRC channel and had a brief conversation with. Unfortunately I don't have a log of the conversation, but he was too distracted with the E3 announcements he was watching to do much in the way of answering my questions.

I tried to confirm that he had the PLU keyboards and see if he would ship it to me so that I could build up the board myself, but I never got a straight answer. Since then, I haven't seen him on IRC.

I assume he lives with his parents. Does anyone happen to know how old he is?

Probably a safe bet that some of the money was spent on video games then!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: oluf on Thu, 27 June 2013, 13:52:08
Because some people asked me about direct shipping of whites, once I got them:

I did not ship any whites (628), locks (2) or dark greys (22) yet.

He paid me 224.13 EUR more than I've shipped, so in theory I could ship switches directly for 4 EUR extra (or free if you paid TheAmateurist for shipping already) until the positive balance is used up.

The only problem is to know if you really paid and nothing got refunded etc.

According to the wiki, there are 23 dark greys ordered, one too many.
628 whites matches with what TheAmateurist ordered from me.
3 locks is one too many.

Thank you 7bit!!
I am one of those that ordered whites (qty 90) and a lock and would like to have them shipped to me directly. I paid TP in full and I have not received any refund (has anyone gotten any refund from TP?) I would be happy to provide whatever proof I can (eg paypal screenshot) in order to have my switches sent to me directly. I will also pay additional shipping if needed. Just let me know. Thanks again!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Thu, 27 June 2013, 13:53:50
There are 3 people listed who ordered MXLOCK/NW:
Elrick, olaph and WhiteFireDragon.

Code: [Select]
MXDARKGREY:
15|KuhnTang
 4|Germiphene
 1|longweight
 2|isman
 1|Oproer
23
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Thu, 27 June 2013, 14:01:12
7bit, I'd also be willing to pay additional shipping and show some kind of proof of purchase to at least get my white switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Thu, 27 June 2013, 14:20:53
7bit, I was billed for 100 white switches. If that aligns with everything, I can also provide my invoice.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: cgbuen on Thu, 27 June 2013, 15:27:16
7bit knows this already, as I've been messaging him about it, but I've also ordered 100 MX Whites.

Does anyone else who was supposed to have helped him (WFD, SmallFry, ...) happen to have an official paid list? Or was such a list made solely by Prof?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 June 2013, 15:42:11
7bit knows this already, as I've been messaging him about it, but I've also ordered 100 MX Whites.

Does anyone else who was supposed to have helped him (WFD, SmallFry, ...) happen to have an official paid list? Or was such a list made solely by Prof?

I did everything no one helped me with anything and am glad I did that way no one it getting dragged down with me. They were going to do some assembly along with MiMiC but at this point where I can no longer pay them to do so I dont feel that its right to have them do the work.

The latest spreadsheet has been in Google Docs and as a downloadable Excel file for some time. Included is everyone who has ordered and paid which has been that way since 2 months after the GB finished. That should have been done much sooner and was one of the first mistakes on my parts for the GB.

As for the whites I was never notified by 7bit that he had them yet. Just so you all know my last invoice from him was 0.55 euro a switch which is significantly higher than what I was quoted you initially for the GB.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Thu, 27 June 2013, 15:44:38
Refund the switches that you have never ordered
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Thu, 27 June 2013, 15:48:10
The whites are a difference of $.07 per switch yes (€.55($.72) and you were quoted €.55($.65))? If so I hope those that ordered those have no trouble paying the difference. It's like $7 for 100 switches and despite how people may feel, it's not fair to lose out on money because of price changes.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 June 2013, 15:49:58
Refund the switches that you have never ordered

cant do that sir just think about this for a second if I had enough money to do that why would i just do the cheaper option and pay the remainder?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Thu, 27 June 2013, 15:52:00
Where are the money we gave to you?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 27 June 2013, 15:53:54
Where did all the money go?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:05:36
The whites are a difference of $.07 per switch yes (€.55($.72) and you were quoted €.55($.65))? If so I hope those that ordered those have no trouble paying the difference. It's like $7 for 100 switches and despite how people may feel, it's not fair to lose out on money because of price changes.

yea the euro price went up a bit and its been so long the exchange rates been all over the place so thats got something to do with this as well. If I would have managed this better that wouldnt have been a problem but o wells. Its only another $45 or so total on all 628 switches. And once 7bit it on and pms me back well try and figure out something especially for those that want their switches sent directly to them.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:06:42
Where are the money we gave to you?

Where did all the money go?


Into higher prices and exchange rate changes is my best guess at this point.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:08:02
Im working on sending out some PMs and Emails as we speak after that im going to get caught back up on the thread as it seems it gotten awfully personal.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:08:51
So what is the next step? We have been stuck in the same spot now which seems like forever.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:12:01
Where are the money we gave to you?

Where did all the money go?


Into higher prices and exchange rate changes is my best guess at this point.

you are lucky that english is not my native language
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:13:47
So what is the next step? We have been stuck in the same spot now which seems like forever.

I have already started contacting people about the next step
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Thu, 27 June 2013, 16:45:50
The whites are a difference of $.07 per switch yes (€.55($.72) and you were quoted €.55($.65))? If so I hope those that ordered those have no trouble paying the difference. It's like $7 for 100 switches and despite how people may feel, it's not fair to lose out on money because of price changes.

This should be a fair request and personally I have ordered white switches and have no problem putting up additional money to cover additional costs like changes in exchange rate and such.

However, I'm not enthusiastic to just start throwing additional money around until we have verified what has already been purchased, for what price, exchange rate, etc.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 27 June 2013, 20:13:34
Have you taken receipt of the PLU keyboards?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 27 June 2013, 23:55:54
Im working on sending out some PMs and Emails as we speak after that im going to get caught back up on the thread as it seems it gotten awfully personal.

This is complete BS and just designed to stall us more.  I offered to eat some of the losses if I could just get my switches.  He ignored the offer and stopped PMing.  Well let me tell you bud, the deal is off and I'm not the only one who's ready to come after you.  We'll talk soon.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 28 June 2013, 01:00:12
Who are you talking to.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 28 June 2013, 01:02:33
The prof, obviously
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: bisl on Fri, 28 June 2013, 02:20:03
lul I have never seen so much internet bravado in one place in all my life
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: 7bit on Fri, 28 June 2013, 05:02:37
The whites are a difference of $.07 per switch yes (€.55($.72) and you were quoted €.55($.65))? If so I hope those that ordered those have no trouble paying the difference. It's like $7 for 100 switches and despite how people may feel, it's not fair to lose out on money because of price changes.

The prices for whites are:
0.42 EUR / 235 switches
0.54 EUR / 393 switches (preordered)

The reason is that I thought to have 235 in stock. The new order is more expensive (Cherry raised their prices, as you might know) so the additional switches are 0.54 (the current preorder price).
However, I found out that there are no whites left when it came to shipping.
Whites will be delivered in around one month (beginning of August).

edit: The additional 97 greys cost 52.38 EUR ($68.09).
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 28 June 2013, 14:47:11
The latest spreadsheet has been in Google Docs and as a downloadable Excel file for some time. Included is everyone who has ordered and paid which has been that way since 2 months after the GB finished. That should have been done much sooner and was one of the first mistakes on my parts for the GB.

Just wanted to point this out for anyone who might have missed it - Prof has clarified that all of us listed have paid.

I also wouldn't mind paying some small difference to compensate for exchange rate/higher Cherry costs/shipping directly to me (I paid Prof $67.28 USD for 100 MX Whites on February 1).

EDIT: This message was intended for 7bit regarding the MX White situation.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 28 June 2013, 14:51:25
Only a sucker would give him more money.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 28 June 2013, 14:57:07
The latest spreadsheet has been in Google Docs and as a downloadable Excel file for some time. Included is everyone who has ordered and paid which has been that way since 2 months after the GB finished. That should have been done much sooner and was one of the first mistakes on my parts for the GB.

Just wanted to point this out for anyone who might have missed it - Prof has clarified that all of us listed have paid.

I also wouldn't mind paying some small difference to compensate for exchange rate/higher Cherry costs/shipping directly to me (I paid Prof $67.28 USD for 100 MX Whites on February 1).

Hahahaha, go ahead and send him all the money you like.  This should compensate him for all the hard work he's been putting into this GB.  It's not easy sending updates and packages as frequently as he does.  You're right, we should all send him more money!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Fri, 28 June 2013, 14:57:37
Just send the switches already. What is taking so long? It's always excuses, excuses, excuses to prolong this GB. The price increased and you just stopped doing anything? How much is the outstanding price for me to pay to just ****ing send the switches to Alaric? My LZ-GH has been there forever, and I had to ask boost to change the address from UK to Malaysia, and now with this being dragged on again, with this imaginary "PM's and contacted everyone", when am I going to get my LZGH? And if that's not enough, I have to go back to UK in another 2 month, please don't tell me that you're gonna drag for another 2 month. Wait, of course you won't, there will be another excuse, there will never be a direct answer. Just man the **** up, how old are you?

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 28 June 2013, 15:02:44
So what is the next step? We have been stuck in the same spot now which seems like forever.

I have already started contacting people about the next step

What exactly are your next steps?  I haven't received an email explaining what you plan on doing for me.  I've spent over $200 and would appreciate a non generic reply.  Saying your taking steps just adds fuel to the fire.  Good job though maintaining your consistent vagueness. 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: cgbuen on Fri, 28 June 2013, 15:29:50
Only a sucker would give him more money.
Hahahaha, go ahead and send him all the money you like.  This should compensate him for all the hard work he's been putting into this GB.  It's not easy sending updates and packages as frequently as he does.  You're right, we should all send him more money!

I meant send money to 7bit to send straight to us here in the States/wherever else. If you guys read some of our earlier posts, 7bit is still waiting on MX Whites from Cherry, so they're not even in his hands.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 28 June 2013, 17:26:05
For all of you getting excited that prof showed his face in the thread again, I will offer you an option to buy my spot.  You can have my spot for 80% of what I paid for it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: longweight on Fri, 28 June 2013, 17:32:07
So glad that I bailed on this!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: AKIMbO on Fri, 28 June 2013, 17:42:16
For all of you getting excited that prof showed his face in the thread again, I will offer you an option to buy my spot.  You can have my spot for 80% of what I paid for it.

Lol...forget that.  I'll offer my spot for 60% of cost.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Fri, 28 June 2013, 18:06:18
Just To Be Clear

On February 1, 2013, I Paid The Following:
   $65.00 - Lubed switches and assembly
   $05.00 - Desoldering PLU-87
   $80.00 - PLU-87 Keyboard
   $08.00 - Cherry Stabilizers
   $05.53 - PayPal Fees
------------------------------------
   $163.53 Total

The only hard goods that have supposedly been purchased for my order is the PLU-87 keyboard -- although I have seen no proof that you have the boards in hand. Deducting PayPal fees, I've paid you $158 for an $80 keyboard. The remaining $78 is gone because...

Into higher prices and exchange rate changes is my best guess at this point.

The Breakdown
Assuming the spreadsheet on Google Doc is correct, and I haven't seen anyone say otherwise, I breakdown the money that was collected as follows:

AmountItem
$3,001.35Switches
$960PLU-87 Keyboards (12 in all)
$1,255Assembly Services (basic, spring swap, lubed and desoldering)
$632Stabilizers (that were never purchased
$156LED swap outs
$6,004.35Total Received Payments

In other words you collected:
   $3,961.35 in goods that were alegedly purchased
   $2,043 in services and goods that were never purchased (stabilizers)

And due to the fluctuations in the Euro, we're supposed to believe that the expected $4,000 in goods actually cost $6,000, or 67% more than expected?

I actually think this number is higher. The only evidence we've seen of goods actually purchased are the switches from 7bit. There's been no evidence that the PLUs have actually been ordered, or received. Throw that on the pile and we're now looking at $3000 that is unaccounted for.

If I would have managed this better that wouldnt have been a problem but o wells. Its only another $45 or so total on all 628 switches.

It's not just another $45 you idiot, it's thousands of dollars that have gone missing with no serious answer as to WTF happened to it.



If Only...
I keep saying this over-and-over in my mind trying to make peace with this debacle of a group buy. I know it's just my psyche going through the seven stages of anger, but I can't help it.

If only... you had charged for the hard goods and not the services, then I wouldn't be out as much money.

If only...  you'd admitted that you had made a mistake before spending the money, we could have chosen different options, or at least try and make a course correction.

If only... you'd explained that your estimates were off we could have made up the difference and gladly given you more money. *shudder*

If only... you'd admitted that you didn't know how to add someone could have stepped in and given you a calculator.

If only... you'd admitted you were unqualified to run a group buy, someone would have gladly volunteered to take over, or at least pitch in.

If only... you had communicated like you did before you took receipt of the money there wouldn't be so much vitriol.

If only... you were actually being honest and not feeding us a line of bull****.  >:D


But, You Chose This
There are so many different ways this could have turned out, but you CHOSE to take us all down this road. All throughout this thread are offers of assistance and help, but as you said...

I did everything no one helped me with anything and am glad I did that way no one it getting dragged down with me.

So instead of enlisting help, you've chosen to drag everyone that trusted you with their money down this road of shame with you.

You have chosen to lie and steal and be deceptive. You have chosen to drag this out in the hopes of covering up your mistakes, or to perhaps go undetected. I don't know why you've made the choices you have and it really doesn't matter what they are. In the end, the reasons rarely justify the means in situations involving theft.

So you can continue to drag this out and tell us...

Im working on sending out some PMs and Emails as we speak after that im going to get caught back up on the thread as it seems it gotten awfully personal.

Guys I am alive (contrary to some beliefs) and I wont let you guys be boned (no matter how much some of you seem to want to be).

Hey guys sorry about not getting the response up, life has in no way going my way (murphy's law is a *****). I know what your going to think/say when i say this but ill do my best to post responses and reply to pms/emails before the start of next week. Before you ask I will most likely not be posting anything today as i wont be sitting down near a computer long enough to do so.

I havnt checked out guys you should get a response from me tomorrow starting back with my other post. O and I received another bag of switches today from 7bit.

I can start shipping stuff out to people who just ordered switches using the switches I do have.

Im not blowing anyone off. I am not shipping parts because I dont have them all.

As for an update as to when theyll ship, thats quite hard to say as I dont know when ill have the rest of the parts. And YES I am actively trying to get the rest in.

ROFL funny man, just so you know I havnt replied to anyone or anything this week yet.

But, a big thanks to those who respected my post about being unavailable for GH stuff until the following monday. I appreciate not getting flooded while I dont have the ability or time to answer.

ok here are some verbal updates (I know many you want pictures as well thell be soonish to follow)

hey guys! looks round... wow a lot happens in a couple days doesnt it...

guys Ill get an update, info, replies,  and stuff tomorrow I have good news (I think) and yes I was overloaded but not anymore (I think). Yes,  i am currently busy but with GH stuff for the most part.

If your worried about this not getting done dont worry it will as I have stopped most of my life to straighten this and other GH stuff out properly. On another note I will never be running another GB but will continue with assembly for those who want be to build their board but never a full blown service ever most likely.

everything  metalliqaz said is correct as of Sun May 5th at 1600

Does this mean you're sending out all our orders?
some of them will go out soon, for the people that only ordered parts that is.

yo dudes whats up? I have recovered and am getting back on this today. I have some more inventory that I havnt been able to update you about. Expect a update either late today or tomorrow once I have organized/figured/etc.



The Bottom Line
You can't be trusted. You're not a man of your word and you committed fraud on the GeekHack community.


Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Acanthophis on Fri, 28 June 2013, 20:06:53
I, luckily for me, only have like 20 bucks in this GB. I guess I'll never see them again, neither as goods nor as a refund.
Plus, I live in Germany, not much I can do about it anyway.
But what puzzles me is why nobody paid him a visit yet? He can't be the only GHer from Wisconsin, can he?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 28 June 2013, 20:57:15
Well said mashby!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Fri, 28 June 2013, 21:11:22
Well said mashby!

Except for the "undected" part. ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Fri, 28 June 2013, 21:46:39
He hasn't even come up with anything to defend himself... He's got his money. He doesn't care anymore...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Fri, 28 June 2013, 22:59:34
He hasn't even come up with anything to defend himself... He's got his money. He doesn't care anymore...
I'm not going to lie, I was super excited when I got an email and a PM but nothing came of it. I just want my switches (white, so he doesn't have those from 7bit) and luckily won't have trouble getting my PCB and plate (he doesn't have those either). Guess I'm out stabilizers and assembly.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: longweight on Sat, 29 June 2013, 15:09:16
Excellent post Mashby!


Basically this guy is taking everyones money, what can be done about it?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Germiphene on Sat, 29 June 2013, 16:00:11
I'm sharpening my pitchfork!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: longweight on Sat, 29 June 2013, 16:00:52
Will a Paypal dispute do anything?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 29 June 2013, 16:02:12
Will a Paypal dispute do anything?

WAY past the 45 day rule they have
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Mon, 01 July 2013, 14:24:05
Updates?....

Edit:
After thinking about this more, this request for updates is aimed more towards the people that Prof should be in contact with, because Prof doesn't seem to think it's fit to update his own group buy more frequently:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Mon, 01 July 2013, 15:42:55
Is he even in contact with 7bit?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 01 July 2013, 16:23:06
Prof,

You're holding up everyone's projects here.  What's going on?  I have everything I need to build my phantom, EXCEPT the parts that I ordered from you .... MONTHS ago.  When am I getting my parts?

At this point, I am willing to sacrifice my stab's that I ordered and paid for.  If you send me my switches, this week, you can keep the money for the stabs and you'll never hear from me again.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: WhiteFireDragon on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:51:02
The longer this goes on, the more it looks to be like another Changdrew GB scam: endless excuses and stalling, eventually doesn't respond, people get angered, he eventually gets banned, and that seals the fate of people's money.

I have all your phantom plates and PCBs (I told bavman to send them to me regardless of what Prof said to try to stop it). If this is still a stalemate in a week, I'll start sending them out if you want to cut your losses. For any other parts you paid for, including the assembly fees, there's nothing I can do about that.



yea the euro price went up a bit and its been so long the exchange rates been all over the place so thats got something to do with this as well.

There is obviously more to this than you want to say. Sure exchange rates can fluctuate, but they don't swing 300% at a time. There is a few thousand dollars that are unaccounted for, and it's not exchange rates, especially when you haven't even ordered everything yet.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:53:42
The longer this goes on, the more it looks to be like another Changdrew GB scam: endless excuses and stalling, eventually doesn't respond, people get angered, he eventually gets banned, and that seals the fate of people's money.

I have all your phantom plates and PCBs (I told bavman to send them to me regardless of what Prof said to try to stop it). If this is still a stalemate in a week, I'll start sending them out if you want to cut your losses. For any other parts you paid for, including the assembly fees, there's nothing I can do about that.



yea the euro price went up a bit and its been so long the exchange rates been all over the place so thats got something to do with this as well.

There is obviously more to this than you want to say. Sure exchange rates can fluctuate, but they don't swing 300% at a time. There is a few thousand dollars that are unaccounted for, and it's not exchange rates, especially when you haven't even ordered everything yet.
I'm good with that, almost prefer it because he disappeared again so quickly. Luckily 7bit has my switches so if I can get those from him I only miss out on stabs/assembly. Do you know where we could get stabilizers?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: r3dx on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:54:55
Thanks for the update WFD.

I take it you weren't one of the people Prof was supposedly "contacting"?

Edit:

Also WFD, since you are probably out money for the stabilizers you got for Prof, if things don't start moving here I'd probably be willing to purchase stabilizers from you. This way you may be able to recoup some of your losses for picking these up.

At the moment I really just want my switches from Prof because it is holding up my LZ-GH and Phantom builds.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nubbinator on Tue, 02 July 2013, 14:55:49
yea the euro price went up a bit and its been so long the exchange rates been all over the place so thats got something to do with this as well.

There is obviously more to this than you want to say. Sure exchange rates can fluctuate, but they don't swing 300% at a time. There is a few thousand dollars that are unaccounted for, and it's not exchange rates, especially when you haven't even ordered everything yet.

I'm going with he spent all the money already.  Look at his purchases in the recent past.  A $400 OCZ Revodrive, someone said a Korean custom, and a bunch of other things that aren't cheap.  It sounds like he spent more than his assembly fee and didn't have enough left over to pay for everything else.  Now instead of selling that stuff off or taking out a personal loan to make things right and admit he was wrong, he's blaming it on exchange rates and prices going up and trying to get more money out of people to finish it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 02 July 2013, 16:53:26
7bit please don't sent the whites to TheProf.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:20:07
Has anyone received anything from this turd of a group buy?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: eRadicatedZomBiE on Tue, 02 July 2013, 22:45:14
I just want my switches :/ that's all. I like how he always shows online but never updates his post.

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 03 July 2013, 01:17:10
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Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: gnubag on Wed, 03 July 2013, 01:22:16
Show Image
(http://cdn0.meme.li/instances/300x300/39378669.jpg)


*are?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:44:06
Show Image
(http://cdn0.meme.li/instances/300x300/39378669.jpg)


*are?

why you got to do that to my joke 
, besides it is semi-correct http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/where's
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Binge on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:50:46
I want to say something really really snide right now, but to cut it short.

Prof, if you see this..  There was a young man who fought with you to try and get this all resolved.  Do the right thing and be better because of him.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 July 2013, 10:58:38
At 25 years of age, you should be able to get a signature loan for enough money to pay for shipping the items that people have already paid you for and entrusted to you. Maybe refund people who paid for assembly. It's only a few thousand dollars. You could pay that off in small monthly payments to your bank or credit union. Rebuild your online reputation while building some credit.

Regarding what Binge posted: What if it had been you? How would you be remembered?

I wonder what would your pastor, Rev. Bill Rishel at the First Congregational United Church of Christ, think about your actions here?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 03 July 2013, 12:03:25
^^^ this ^^^
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 03 July 2013, 13:05:01
The bad news this week distracted me from this thread...  looks like it's time to get back on task.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:12:27
Guys I really would appreciate it if you stopped some of these more personal posts.

Additionally since all of you seem to have major problems with your orders please pm or email me about this. I dont seem to get many of either of these despite all the issues every one is haveing. Please try to be realistic with your requests when contacting me about your order.

For those of you with no stake in the groupbuy, the participants of this groupbuy seem to be handeling this  themselves perfectly fine.

I know at this point many of you will just shrug this off but I fully intend on fixing this GB to the best of my current means and as reasonably quick as possible. Please be on the lookout for pm's and email's from me in the coming days as I try to resolve this and start shipping what I do have on hand.



Note: I will be putting this on the first page of this thread as I think I have some extra/open posts there. If not I will be modifying the OP.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:25:17
Guys I really would appreciate it if you stopped some of these more personal posts.

Additionally since all of you seem to have major problems with your orders please pm or email me about this. I dont seem to get many of either of these despite all the issues every one is haveing. Please try to be realistic with your requests when contacting me about your order.

For those of you with no stake in the groupbuy, the participants of this groupbuy seem to be handeling this  themselves perfectly fine.

I know at this point many of you will just shrug this off but I fully intend on fixing this GB to the best of my current means and as reasonably quick as possible. Please be on the lookout for pm's and email's from me in the coming days as I try to resolve this and start shipping what I do have on hand.



Note: I will be putting this on the first page of this thread as I think I have some extra/open posts there. If not I will be modifying the OP.

How much longer you will continue to fool us?
Ship what you have in your hands and refund all you can't ship
You want me to write this in ANOTHER email?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:30:10
I think non-participants like myself have made comments because this has gotten way out of hand and you never give real updates.  Give proper updates and be 100% transparent with what's going on.  Give an account of where all the money went, showing your expenses to date for the GB and the give the status of all the parts, ordering, and assembly.  Lastly, for those who have asked you to ship them their order unassembled, do so and give them tracking numbers.  If you did proper updates, accounted for the money, and shipped to some people, people wouldn't be so upset about it and outside observers wouldn't be looking on in horror, feeling compelled to say something.

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:37:19
Guys I really would appreciate it if you stopped some of these more personal posts.

Additionally since all of you seem to have major problems with your orders please pm or email me about this. I dont seem to get many of either of these despite all the issues every one is haveing. Please try to be realistic with your requests when contacting me about your order.

For those of you with no stake in the groupbuy, the participants of this groupbuy seem to be handeling this  themselves perfectly fine.

I know at this point many of you will just shrug this off but I fully intend on fixing this GB to the best of my current means and as reasonably quick as possible. Please be on the lookout for pm's and email's from me in the coming days as I try to resolve this and start shipping what I do have on hand.



Note: I will be putting this on the first page of this thread as I think I have some extra/open posts there. If not I will be modifying the OP.

**** you. I PM'd you twice at least to offer you to pay for the shipping for MX Clear switches to Alaric, but I never get any reply. I am not handling this GB perfectly fine. I have been waiting for a few months now, and my LZGH is already waiting for me, it just needs the MX Clear switches to complete. I have tried any means to fixing this, but it seems like you just never want to settle things, constantly making excuses and blame.

Please post as much personal information as possible, I will need to know how to get to him.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 03 July 2013, 14:54:53
I know at this point many of you will just shrug this off but I fully intend on fixing this GB to the best of my current means and as reasonably quick as possible. Please be on the lookout for pm's and email's from me in the coming days as I try to resolve this and start shipping what I do have on hand.

If you're being sincere, then I'd like an answer to the following two questions:

   1. When do you plan to ship me my PLU keyboard?

   2. When do you plan to refund me the money I paid for assembly services?

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 03 July 2013, 15:02:15
I always wondered why people were trusting him to build their keyboards when it took him half a year to mod **** up my capslock. And he never gave a refund for that either. It has been next to me on my desk ever since as a reminder to always mod stuff myself.

Anyone have a guess on how long it would take him to assemble a SINGLE keyboard? A single keycap takes half a year, so let me pull out the calculator... Hmmm... It says we'll have died by then, but that can't be right, he's an upstanding guy right?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Wed, 03 July 2013, 16:38:49
I want to say something really really snide right now, but to cut it short.

Prof, if you see this..  There was a young man who fought with you to try and get this all resolved.  Do the right thing and be better because of him.

I was thinking the same thing. He tried so hard to straighten things out. I only wish I could thank him for his efforts. Don't let it go in vain.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:13:38
Additionally since all of you seem to have major problems with your orders please pm or email me about this. I dont seem to get many of either of these despite all the issues every one is haveing. Please try to be realistic with your requests when contacting me about your order.

At this point I think members are looking for some transparency. This idea that everyone should email or PM you lets you continue to hide behind saying that you are PM'ing and emailing people involved with this group buy when it seems that is not actually happening. There have been some direct questions asked of you in this thread; questions that are of import to lots of people involved that you should just answer in a open manner in this thread. If you really intend to make this right just be open and honest about what you have, where the money went and give a timeline of what is going to happen from your end. Do this now, in this thread so everyone can see it openly. You continue to say you're going to make this right but your actions show otherwise.

I'm not sure what your definition of realistic is compared to those whose money you have but asking you to ship the stuff they've paid you for is a realistic request that you just can't seem to follow through on so I'm not sure what you expect of them at this point.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:28:07
^^^ well said

I've sent you a couple PM's myself.... shockingly, no response. 

I agree that you asking to have people PM and email privately only allows you hide behind a false sense of "things happening", when you only intend on ignoring everyone, just ignoring them privately. 

EVERYONE and ANYONE:
Post all the personal information you can, lets start with his name and address.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:32:25
EVERYONE and ANYONE:
Post all the personal information you can, lets start with his name and address.

I don't think this is necessary as I do believe someone is already working on doing what is necessary to pursue legal action.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:32:26
EVERYONE and ANYONE:
Post all the personal information you can, lets start with his name and address.
I have both and no. I've given out this to one person and one person only so that we can do this in an organized and legal matter. I'm sorry, but with how some of you are handling an online forum I know we'll end up with pitchforks if you're given info.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:38:59
I'm handling this just about the same way anyone who has been scammed out of ~$200 would handle it.  If legal action is being taken, why are the rest of us not contacted about it?  Don't we need to participate?  I'll gladly participate.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:39:46
Elliot [REDACTED] - A name holds no power I googled his name and his real address showed up, so it does hold some power... A first name can't be tied to an address though.

There are quite a few people who know his address (myself included), but those that haven't had dealings with him shouldn't know his address so I wont post it. I don't want people calling in pizzas and ****, were better than that.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:48:35
well, I would qualify losing money to him as "dealings", so shouldn't I have it?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 03 July 2013, 17:57:57
well, I would qualify losing money to him as "dealings", so shouldn't I have it?
Dealings and in buy/sell w/ paypal. I'm 99% sure if you're invoiced it does not show you the address of the invoice-er.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:01:37
well, I would qualify losing money to him as "dealings", so shouldn't I have it?
Dealings and in buy/sell w/ paypal. I'm 99% sure if you're invoiced it does not show you the address of the invoice-er.

False.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: tjcaustin on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:02:26
Elliot [REDACTED] - A name holds no power I googled his name and his real address showed up, so it does hold some power... A first name can't be tied to an address though.

There are quite a few people who know his address (myself included), but those that haven't had dealings with him shouldn't know his address so I wont post it. I don't want people calling in pizzas and ****, were better than that.

I dunno, if he's this broke, maybe he can look at it like "free meals"

(obv joking)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:03:34
well, I would qualify losing money to him as "dealings", so shouldn't I have it?
Dealings and in buy/sell w/ paypal. I'm 99% sure if you're invoiced it does not show you the address of the invoice-er.

False.
I'm looking at my phantom invoice right now and you're right. That said, I still say we should only have one point of contact.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:07:45
That said, I still say we should only have one point of contact.

Exactly and I believe someone is already on top of it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:08:45
yes we are better than that than to post private information, let us not post personal information about prof and his family please, keep that private between group buy participants via PMs, IRC Messages, and Emails.

As a Litigation Support Analyst (I am not an Attorney, but i work with case assessment related to electronic stored information - ESI) I am not sure what legal action can be done with a group buy like this other than filing something that will lead to nothing except legal bills.

Geekhack is not liable and is not obligated to consent to us using the site's records and metadata in legal actions; i doubt iMav and administrators want to give a deposition about what they know about prof, how the website stores information, meta-data, where the information is located, IP addresses, etc. Things have changed in the legal world over the past decade. Meta data matters now.

The only defensible monetary transaction is on Paypal and simply printing out your invoice and bank statements and emails to PDF is not defensible in court (i would know) even though we are free to file that information. Paypal holds the rights to transaction records and you would need Paypal to hand over the transaction records and i don't think Paypal will let us use that information due to their arbitration rules; they do not want to be involved in any way in court system which is why you consent to arbitration rules with paypal service terms. If you are wondering what PayPals arbitration rules look like, see https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/Legal_Hub_full
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:10:20
Additionally since all of you seem to have major problems with your orders please pm or email me about this. I dont seem to get many of either of these despite all the issues every one is haveing. Please try to be realistic with your requests when contacting me about your order.

At this point I think members are looking for some transparency. This idea that everyone should email or PM you lets you continue to hide behind saying that you are PM'ing and emailing people involved with this group buy when it seems that is not actually happening. There have been some direct questions asked of you in this thread; questions that are of import to lots of people involved that you should just answer in a open manner in this thread. If you really intend to make this right just be open and honest about what you have, where the money went and give a timeline of what is going to happen from your end. Do this now, in this thread so everyone can see it openly. You continue to say you're going to make this right but your actions show otherwise.

I'm not sure what your definition of realistic is compared to those whose money you have but asking you to ship the stuff they've paid you for is a realistic request that you just can't seem to follow through on so I'm not sure what you expect of them at this point.

I want PMs and Emails so that I can deal people one at a time instead of as a mob. People are welcome to post what I have told them via PM or Email if they would like. I will be approaching everyone the same. I would really appreciate it though if you didnt just post the pm and/or email like has happened in that past as that is just completely unneeded.
Also what am I hiding? I think ive been pretty forthright admitting the fact that I ****ed up completely and suck at managing things dealing with time and money. Also a timeline just isnt going to happen as it wouldnt accomplish anything at this point.
I have actively been pming and emailing some people starting at the top of the spread sheet about their individual order and people have contacted me since the post earlier today as well. This means nothing I assume to any of you at this point because unless you hear it from them you wont take it for being true. Which as you can see I understand at this point but I will not conduct monetary dealing open on a forum, especially ones that are essentially personal.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:11:34
We're taking this all the way to Judge Judy or Judge Joe Brown if he doesn't step up to the plate!

Actually, I believe the recourse that is being pursued is small claims court and there are steps necessary before one can file and that is what I believe is being worked on.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:14:57
Can someone please PM me his name and address?  I think I qualify as one of the people who should have it as I'm involved in this, and this way it will be non public.  I'll respect everyone's decision to keep it to myself.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:18:56
Thanks guys for not posting my private information on the net I really do appreciate it. I should point out though that anyone that got an invoice from me and paid it should have my info via paypal. At least I think they should.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:22:49
We're taking this all the way to Judge Judy or Judge Joe Brown if he doesn't step up to the plate!

Actually, I believe the recourse that is being pursued is small claims court and there are steps necessary before one can file and that is what I believe is being worked on.

Not sure if you read what i said as an analyst--So who from geekhack AND Paypal are going to give a deposition against prof? Who from geekhack and paypal are going to provide defensible records? Your printed out invoices, conversations, bank records, etc are NOT defensible and that information needs to come from paypal and geekhack directly. Paypal has arbitration rules you consent to, Prof even without an attorney could easily bring this up and it would be over. Even small claims court in Wisconsin follows the same basic rules as any other court. It will go nowhere.

edit: it is wrong to be sharing anyone's private information without their consent, if you are a participant in this group buy you have an invoice from prof meaning you have his name and address. Any action taken, which again will go no where except paperwork and bills, should be only with participants in the groupbuy and prof--those who prof consented to sharing his private information.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:23:54
Elliot [REDACTED] - A name holds no power I googled his name and his real address showed up, so it does hold some power... A first name can't be tied to an address though.

There are quite a few people who know his address (myself included), but those that haven't had dealings with him shouldn't know his address so I wont post it. I don't want people calling in pizzas and ****, were better than that.

you found it online via google? I just tried and am having trouble, maybe im just bad at google. Mind PMing or Emailing me how/where you found it im very intrigued because I didnt think I put it up anywhere public as i think most people like my self would avoid doing that.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:26:12
We're taking this all the way to Judge Judy or Judge Joe Brown if he doesn't step up to the plate!

Actually, I believe the recourse that is being pursued is small claims court and there are steps necessary before one can file and that is what I believe is being worked on.

Not sure if you read what i said as an analyst--So who from geekhack AND Paypal are going to give a deposition against prof? Who from geekhack and paypal are going to provide defensible records? Your printed out invoices, conversations, bank records, etc are NOT defensible and that information needs to come from paypal and geekhack directly. Paypal has arbitration rules you consent to, Prof even without an attorney could easily bring this up and it would be over. Even small claims court in Wisconsin follows the same basic rules as any other court. It will go nowhere.

yes i have been told the same thing by people about small claims court when was going to try to get money back from a convention I helped with that never reimbursed me as they should have.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:27:42
Elliot [REDACTED] - A name holds no power I googled his name and his real address showed up, so it does hold some power... A first name can't be tied to an address though.

There are quite a few people who know his address (myself included), but those that haven't had dealings with him shouldn't know his address so I wont post it. I don't want people calling in pizzas and ****, were better than that.

I dunno, if he's this broke, maybe he can look at it like "free meals"

(obv joking)

Hey if they paid for the pizza first id appreciate it, though I advise you not to use pizza hut.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:49:41
I added that post like I said i would to the 2nd post in the thread.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:49:50
Elliot [REDACTED] - A name holds no power I googled his name and his real address showed up, so it does hold some power... A first name can't be tied to an address though.

There are quite a few people who know his address (myself included), but those that haven't had dealings with him shouldn't know his address so I wont post it. I don't want people calling in pizzas and ****, were better than that.

you found it online via google? I just tried and am having trouble, maybe im just bad at google. Mind PMing or Emailing me how/where you found it im very intrigued because I didnt think I put it up anywhere public as i think most people like my self would avoid doing that.

Give me my $14.21 back with a gift payment and I will. It took me less than 2 minutes to find you on google with your full name.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 03 July 2013, 18:55:26
OK I'VE EMAILED YOU NOW LET'S SEE IF, WHEN AND WHAT YOU WILL ANSWER
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 03 July 2013, 19:01:51
I wonder if his phone number listed on the site is still valid...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 19:13:45
Elliot [REDACTED] - A name holds no power I googled his name and his real address showed up, so it does hold some power... A first name can't be tied to an address though.

There are quite a few people who know his address (myself included), but those that haven't had dealings with him shouldn't know his address so I wont post it. I don't want people calling in pizzas and ****, were better than that.

you found it online via google? I just tried and am having trouble, maybe im just bad at google. Mind PMing or Emailing me how/where you found it im very intrigued because I didnt think I put it up anywhere public as i think most people like my self would avoid doing that.

Give me my $14.21 back with a gift payment and I will. It took me less than 2 minutes to find you on google with your full name.

I didnt think I remembered you ordering anything so I checked my spreadsheet for the groupbuy and your not listed at all in it...


I wonder if his phone number listed on the site is still valid...

idk if it is. Give it a try if you want, ill answer if it is. Otherwise send it a text.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 03 July 2013, 19:18:39
That was for my capslock you ****ed up, not this GB.

I may text it in a bit. EDIT: Texted.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 19:28:52
That was for my capslock you ****ed up, not this GB.

I may text it in a bit.

o well sorry about that ages ago but right now this GB is by and far priority. once this is over and cleaned up to the best of my ability ill see what I can do about it. please if you could only complain about on the phantom GB here. Please create a new thread for stuff like that or something. im sure there is enough you can talk about with how long i have been on GH.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 03 July 2013, 19:40:26
That was for my capslock you ****ed up, not this GB.

I may text it in a bit.

o well sorry about that ages ago but right now this GB is by and far priority. once this is over and cleaned up to the best of my ability ill see what I can do about it. please if you could only complain about on the phantom GB here. Please create a new thread for stuff like that or something. im sure there is enough you can talk about with how long i have been on GH.

Technically the only thing you could do now is refund my money, but my capslock will be forever ****ed.

I wonder how many times you've told people to start another thread. Anyone have a count?

Also did you receive my text? Is that number that's listed online yours?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 19:57:13
That was for my capslock you ****ed up, not this GB.

I may text it in a bit.

o well sorry about that ages ago but right now this GB is by and far priority. once this is over and cleaned up to the best of my ability ill see what I can do about it. please if you could only complain about on the phantom GB here. Please create a new thread for stuff like that or something. im sure there is enough you can talk about with how long i have been on GH.

Technically the only thing you could do now is refund my money, but my capslock will be forever ****ed.

I wonder how many times you've told people to start another thread. Anyone have a count?

Also did you receive my text? Is that number that's listed online yours?

Yes, I understand that the only thing left I can do is refund you but I cant do that at this time. I would never modify another key for you ever, not that you would want me to. Actually modifying keys sucks I hate doing it so much that I threw all the jigs I made out (which your probably happy to hear). You could un-**** your key pretty easily (to a point) yourself or have some one do it for you.

On GH total? Probably tons as straying off topic on this forum seems pretty common, ive even done it my self every no and then. In this thread alone probably a few.

No i did not get a text. Did you get one back at all?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:03:24
If you hated modding keys so much, then why were you the only one offering that service?...

Maybe it's your home phone number then. I did not receive a reply. XXX-XXX-5463
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:11:18
If you hated modding keys so much, then why were you the only one offering that service?...

Maybe it's your home phone number then. I did not receive a reply. XXX-XXX-5463

I didnt hate it then I think offering the service made me hate it.

No thats not my number. And i havnt had a landline for at least 10 years if not more.


Edit: That number may have actually been mine quite a while ago.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:15:20
Huh, then why is your name and address associated with it?... Weird... I wonder what the response will be if someone currently has that number...

Edit: That number may have actually been mine quite a while ago.

Well that would explain it.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:22:34
Huh, then why is your name and address associated with it?... Weird... I wonder what the response will be if someone currently has that number...

Edit: That number may have actually been mine quite a while ago.

Well that would explain it.

yea sorry forgot that I was forced to get a new number quite a number of years ago.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: bisl on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:23:48
Prof, if you see this..  There was a young man who fought with you to try and get this all resolved.  Do the right thing and be better because of him.
Regarding what Binge posted: What if it had been you? How would you be remembered?

I like both of you, but invoking SmallFry's death to get this resolved is ****ing despicable and you should be ashamed of yourselves. Do not cheapen his memory.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:28:11
Since you seem to have time to respond to recent replies, instead do the following:

[1] Update the OP and in a new post in this thread the status of each item (PLUs, switches, PCBs, plates, stabs, etc), if possible at this time.

[2] Post a schedule for what you will do and by what time, as such:

BY Friday, July 5th: I will have posted an inventory of what I have.
BY Monday, July 8th: I will have requested shipment of XYZ and will post confirmation and receipt of XYZ.
BY Wednesday, July 10th: I will have contacted everyone on the GB list concerning the status of their orders.

[etc]

Admitting you ****ed up is one thing. Admitting you ****ed up and putting together a plan to move forward actually moves towards a solution. Everything needs to be in the open from this point forward besides info pertaining to specific orders.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 03 July 2013, 20:33:38
Well said jabar. I agree that this would go a long way it getting people to put down their the pitchforks and resolving the situation.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:15:47
Prof, if you see this..  There was a young man who fought with you to try and get this all resolved.  Do the right thing and be better because of him.
Regarding what Binge posted: What if it had been you? How would you be remembered?

I like both of you, but invoking SmallFry's death to get this resolved is ****ing despicable and you should be ashamed of yourselves. Do not cheapen his memory.

The only reason we even mentioned it is because SmallFry was actively trying to get this resolved for the GB participants. Sorry if that offends you.

Also, I'm going to go a little off topic here. I think in light of recent tragic events, I think we should all reflect on how we behave online and in our relationships with others. None of us have been guaranteed anything in this life. We should all be a little more concerned with how we interact with others, and try to live up to the example SmallFry set.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:22:30
Prof, if you see this..  There was a young man who fought with you to try and get this all resolved.  Do the right thing and be better because of him.
Regarding what Binge posted: What if it had been you? How would you be remembered?

I like both of you, but invoking SmallFry's death to get this resolved is ****ing despicable and you should be ashamed of yourselves. Do not cheapen his memory.

SmallFry personally helped me try to get this straighten out. I know he cared very much for this gb to go well.  He didn't have to care or go out of his way to help but he did. I really wish he was here so I could thank him.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 03 July 2013, 21:32:12
Huh, then why is your name and address associated with it?... Weird... I wonder what the response will be if someone currently has that number...

Edit: That number may have actually been mine quite a while ago.

Well that would explain it.

yea sorry forgot that I was forced to get a new number quite a number of years ago.

He responded... Somebody else has your old number now... *awkward*...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Elrick on Wed, 03 July 2013, 22:07:49
Also, I'm going to go a little off topic here. I think in light of recent tragic events, I think we should all reflect on how we behave online and in our relationships with others. None of us have been guaranteed anything in this life. We should all be a little more concerned with how we interact with others, and try to live up to the example SmallFry set.

This is a first for me, I never knew SmallFry had passed away.  According to the dates "Nathaniel John Walter 7/11/1996 - 6/27/2013" was only 17 years of age.  So young, yet we all take it for granted that we get the full life span of 60 years + but with Nate he was cheated immensely by this so called "god" that we all worshiped.

He was a decent fellow that despite his age showed great maturity and honesty when dealing with anyone here at Geekhack.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Fri, 05 July 2013, 08:40:10
Any news?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 05 July 2013, 08:48:41
I spoke with TheProfosist in IRC yesterday.

You all need to keep bugging him with PMs and emails. He refuses to post any updates to people about their orders openly in this thread.

Send messages to him every day. If he doesn't respond, post here and let us know that.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Fri, 05 July 2013, 08:55:58
I sent him like 10 PMs over the last months. Last one was 20 Minutes ago
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Tym on Fri, 05 July 2013, 08:57:37
I sent him like 10 PMs over the last months. Last one was 20 Minutes ago
This maybe your problem then, everyone spamming him with PM's? (Not defending him) but I'd imagine hes got hundreds.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Fri, 05 July 2013, 09:01:59
I don't think that 10 PMs is much compared to the time this GB is running. And he wouldn't get the other 9 if he would simply answer 1
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: r3dx on Fri, 05 July 2013, 09:06:18
Based on the attitudes of some people in this thread, they most likely aren't getting any answers and are starting to get pissed.

Honestly all he really needs to do is update one of the OPs with information about the stock he has, what he's currently doing to get this group buy on track, and some kind of timeline that he's shooting for to get this off his plate.

If he posted information such as this it would quell many people's problems with this group buy for a short period, at least.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Fri, 05 July 2013, 09:09:27
Exactly, because all I did was asking him about information for his groupbuy. I mean, I ordered for 5 people and they keep asking aswell. All I need is something like "It's up and running, still waiting for xyz" and I bet that he could satisfy 90% of all users in this groupbuy with such an answer.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 05 July 2013, 09:58:03
Based on the attitudes of some people in this thread, they most likely aren't getting any answers and are starting to get pissed.

Honestly all he really needs to do is update one of the OPs with information about the stock he has, what he's currently doing to get this group buy on track, and some kind of timeline that he's shooting for to get this off his plate.

If he posted information such as this it would quell many people's problems with this group buy for a short period, at least.

He did update the second post just in case anyone missed it.

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: r3dx on Fri, 05 July 2013, 10:19:13
He did update the second post just in case anyone missed it.

I saw, but it's more of a call to stop harassing him by threats of posting personal details in a public forum (of which I totally agree, Prof should be allowed the same privacy we all have) and contact him privately about our orders (which I also agree, but it seems that people are not getting responses within a reasonable time frame).

In all seriousness, I'm just trying to help Prof out because this group buy has kind of been on a downward spiral and obviously he seems to think he is in-over-his-head. If he posted concrete facts and information about where he currently is, people would be more willing to help or understand where he's coming from and have a bit more patience. Once information starts getting out, we can start moving towards a solution, instead of having this group buy sitting in limbo and having Prof struggle on his own.

GH is a really supportive community, which is the main reason I joined, so I'm sure we can all work towards some compromise to salvage this group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Fri, 05 July 2013, 19:24:04
So a reasonable request for OP to post inventory, overall status and a plan to move forward was ignored.

No one is going to be happy if their assembled keyboards show up all of a sudden without ongoing updates and statuses. You cannot keep the discussions via PM, because it is UNFAIR to those waiting patiently to NOT know what is going on. You owe it to the majority of people in this GB, most of whom have given your character the benefit of the doubt to accomplish the service for which they paid.

You owe it to the GeekHack / mechanical keyboard community on the whole to put this right by scheduling and following through with what you are doing next.

Stop hiding in IRC and stop hiding behind PMs and emails. When you do come forward the pitchforks and ire drawn by community members not even a part of this GB (myself included) will immediately dissipate. Do it for your own mental well-being.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Fri, 05 July 2013, 20:21:16
All he needs to do is start somewhere. The longest journey starts with the first step. Just send one person's order and go from there. I know there are many orders that can't be finished but there are some that are not waiting on anything.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Fri, 05 July 2013, 21:26:12
I got a few responses from him initially.  He claims that he will send me what he has.  He was going back and forth "responding", until I asked him what he plans on doing about the items he doesn't have, ie LED's, stabs, grey's, and whites.  No response after that.  Does he think it's OK to screw us out of the parts we paid for simply because he admitted he can't handle a GB?  I'm glad you had this revelation Prof, but I assure you I'm going to stay angry until I get what I paid for or a refund.   And yes, now I have your personal information.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Fri, 05 July 2013, 21:47:50
I wouldn't be too worried about the switches he doesn't have. It isn't ideal, but 7bit has never failed to come through even when with buys as large as R4 so he could always ship directly. Might cost shipping so as said, that wouldn't be ideal but it is an option.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Turkishrambo on Sat, 06 July 2013, 07:39:42
Offering free assembly for  ppl in canada, just pay shipping costs.

Shoot me a pm if interested ^_^
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 06 July 2013, 09:33:55
I got a few responses from him initially.  He claims that he will send me what he has.  He was going back and forth "responding", until I asked him what he plans on doing about the items he doesn't have, ie LED's, stabs, grey's, and whites.  No response after that.  Does he think it's OK to screw us out of the parts we paid for simply because he admitted he can't handle a GB?  I'm glad you had this revelation Prof, but I assure you I'm going to stay angry until I get what I paid for or a refund.   And yes, now I have your personal information.

That has been my experience as well. A promise of shipping me the PLU, but mute on everything else.

I have a demand letter from my attorney pending, but it's on hold in the hopes that TheProfosist is making reasonable attempts at resolving the issues. One PM response from him is not encouraging though and leads me to believe this is just another example of him "kicking the can down the road" and delaying the inevitable.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 06 July 2013, 10:54:57
Offering free assembly for  ppl in canada, just pay shipping costs.

Shoot me a pm if interested ^_^

That's very nice of you! I'll do the same for one board, as long as shipping is paid both ways and all parts are provided (I'm conus)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 06 July 2013, 12:58:41
Hey guys I need you to send me a PM if you intend to have stuff shipped to alaricljs or WhiteFireDragon for some sort of assembly. They have asked me to ship everyone going to either of them together.


Edit: clarified this a bit
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Sat, 06 July 2013, 23:31:38
Hey guys I need you to send me a PM if you intend to have stuff shipped to alaricljs or WhiteFireDragon for some sort of assembly. They have asked me to ship everyone going to either of them together.
Everyone should post the assembly option openly in this thread for accountability instead of PMing. Doing so allows the OP to continue misleading everyone.

Also, if you are not going to perform a mass status update regarding what you have and what is still en route and what you're doing, you owe everyone an explanation as to why you won't.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Rendom on Sat, 06 July 2013, 23:41:09
Finally got a reply from Prof in the PM's. Hopefully the switches would get shipped soon. My LZGH has been stuck at Alaric for a long time now.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 07 July 2013, 22:58:17
Send my stuff to WFD.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Grimey on Mon, 08 July 2013, 10:43:28
Throwing my hat in, I would be willing to assemble a small number of Phantoms if the other builders are going to be swamped.  I would be willing to build up to 5 of them free of charge as long as you don't want a really complicated firmware built that would require substantial coding time on my part.

For the record I have built my own Phantom and hard wired multiple projects that have been displayed here.  PM me if this would be a service needed for the community.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Jupiter on Mon, 08 July 2013, 18:22:46
Even though I'm not in the group buy I'd be happy to build a couple of phantoms for those Aussies here who wouldn't be able to themselves. Just pay for shipping both ways and ill get it done for you :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: r3dx on Mon, 08 July 2013, 21:28:59
Any additional updates on when you're shipping stuff Prof?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 09 July 2013, 09:29:38
Today! twas quite sick yesterday :( 3-5 of yo ushould hget shipping infos today.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Tue, 09 July 2013, 17:01:15
4 boxes were just dropped off at the Post Office.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Acanthophis on Tue, 09 July 2013, 20:04:24
Who are you and what did you do with TheProf?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Ed on Tue, 09 July 2013, 20:26:16
He did not specify what was shipped, who it was shipped to, and the tracking numbers. And only 4 boxes is quite a pitiful amount considering how many months he's had.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Tue, 09 July 2013, 20:38:23
He did not specify what was shipped, who it was shipped to, and the tracking numbers. And only 4 boxes is quite a pitiful amount considering how many months he's had.

Well no, that would require that something has actually been done.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Tue, 09 July 2013, 22:32:51
still waiting on that action plan

you're not going to please anyone with mystery shipments
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 10 July 2013, 02:56:57
4 boxes were just dropped off at the Post Office.

Well that's a start........ I guess

Be nice if we got confirmation from the recipients
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 10 July 2013, 07:45:31
4 boxes were just dropped off at the Post Office.

One of the boxes shipped was my PLU keyboard. I received tracking information and it's due to arrive tomorrow.

Thank you TheProfosist for taking the first step. Looking forward to seeing more.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amarok on Wed, 10 July 2013, 09:27:15
I got a shipping notification also. Contents says: "Note To Recipient: 1 - Black PLU with Blue Switches 5 - Blue Switches 92 - Clear Switches 1 - Costar Stabilizers". Says it should be arriving tomorrow!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: bisl on Wed, 10 July 2013, 10:47:06
He did not specify what was shipped, who it was shipped to, and the tracking numbers. And only 4 boxes is quite a pitiful amount considering how many months he's had.

Didn't we establish that you're not even on this buy? Gtfo this thread please, you're not helping anything.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 10 July 2013, 12:16:33
He did not specify what was shipped, who it was shipped to, and the tracking numbers. And only 4 boxes is quite a pitiful amount considering how many months he's had.

Didn't we establish that you're not even on this buy? Gtfo this thread please, you're not helping anything.

I was slighted by him before this thread. What thread (that is not a zombie) would you suggest me posting in?

I among others who remember being slighted back then merely watched as he made these assembly services. We knew what would happen given his record, but we did not threadcrap. Now that the **** has hit the fan some of us have decided to threadcrap just a little.

And would you kindly un-arse yourself? We've all been slighted by him, so why can't we all just get along.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 10 July 2013, 12:40:52
Post all you like Ed.  I don't understand why anyone who has been **** on would have a problem with it.  Prof sent out 4 packages, OMG, what a saint.  thats 4 out of how many?  How late?  Even then, I'm sure they're incomplete packages. 

BTW ed.  If you knew we were going to get F'd on this, I would have appreciated the threadcrapping so that I would have known to stay away.  Please, let us know in advance next time.

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 10 July 2013, 13:12:43
Post all you like Ed.  I don't understand why anyone who has been **** on would have a problem with it.  Prof sent out 4 packages, OMG, what a saint.  thats 4 out of how many?  How late?  Even then, I'm sure they're incomplete packages. 

BTW ed.  If you knew we were going to get F'd on this, I would have appreciated the threadcrapping so that I would have known to stay away.  Please, let us know in advance next time.



TheProfosist, among others, used to have a user sub-forum. When the user sub-forums got axed after GeekHack's return, TheProfosist effectively got a clean slate (save for those who remember like myself). The mods tend to give infractions for threadcrapping, which is why I stayed out for many months. So yes I "knew", and yes I could have warned people about his past, but I didn't and that's that. I feel bad that so many other people are out so much more money compared to myself.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Rendom on Wed, 10 July 2013, 14:04:00
Prof has already shipped something. USPS confirmed. Woohooo!

Thank god, Prof is actually doing something to help his reputation, now I can't wait to receive my LZGH.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Binge on Thu, 11 July 2013, 13:35:37
I have gotten the pieces of my phantom from prof, and I'm retrieving the rest from WFD.  Plate + PCB and more will be up for sale for anyone who wants a phantom.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 11 July 2013, 13:44:32
I have gotten the pieces of my phantom from prof, and I'm retrieving the rest from WFD.  Plate + PCB and more will be up for sale for anyone who wants a phantom.

Whoo glad it made it to ya!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Thu, 11 July 2013, 14:13:37
I have gotten the pieces of my phantom from prof, and I'm retrieving the rest from WFD.  Plate + PCB and more will be up for sale for anyone who wants a phantom.

What plate did you order?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 11 July 2013, 14:32:02
I have gotten the pieces of my phantom from prof, and I'm retrieving the rest from WFD.  Plate + PCB and more will be up for sale for anyone who wants a phantom.

What plate did you order?

please PM him about this stuff if you could, is just that I would like to keep this thread things only pertaining to the GB if at all possible, thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Thu, 11 July 2013, 14:42:32
I have gotten the pieces of my phantom from prof, and I'm retrieving the rest from WFD.  Plate + PCB and more will be up for sale for anyone who wants a phantom.

What plate did you order?

please PM him about this stuff if you could, is just that I would like to keep this thread things only pertaining to the GB if at all possible, thanks

Waah.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Thu, 11 July 2013, 22:17:47
please PM him about this stuff if you could, is just that I would like to keep this thread things only pertaining to the GB if at all possible, thanks
here's something pertaining to the GB

why don't ya post a full update instead of hiding behind emails and PMs?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 11 July 2013, 23:12:00
Prof,

I've been PM'ing you as requested.  I'm really shocked that I'm not getting a reply.  I'm guessing all the people that have orders that you f'd up are getting the same treatment.  Why don't you man up and post actions in this thread you coward. 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: okooko on Thu, 11 July 2013, 23:18:32
He has PM'd me to say that the Switches from this GB has been shipped to Alaric
I'm assuming this means for people like myself and Rendom who are waiting on switches for our LZGH build have had the action put into motion (at least verbally)

Thats my situation, I'm standing to lose assembly costs - minus the shipping but I'm sure others have lost much more on top of time, which is the biggest cost of all.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amarok on Fri, 12 July 2013, 09:13:25
Just wanted to post and update that I got my stuff from Prof as well. Long time coming, but thanks for working on it all Prof, it's appreciated.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 12 July 2013, 09:19:35
Still waiting for him to ship my stuff
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 13 July 2013, 11:30:49
I am happy to report that my PLU-87 arrived yesterday, as promised.

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2876/9274833483_b7efd7cdc0.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/compactkey/9274833483/)
PLU-87 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/compactkey/9274833483/) by cpkey (http://www.flickr.com/people/compactkey/), on Flickr

Thank you TheProfosist for taking the first step. Hopefully you'll continue making strides towards settling this group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 13 July 2013, 12:58:05
I'm unhappy to report that nothing has arrived, and he will not return my PM's.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Sat, 13 July 2013, 13:03:24
To those who received items:

Did the OP enclose an invoice for the items, and were all the missing items received? Any receipt? Apology?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: mashby on Sat, 13 July 2013, 13:14:11
To those who received items:

Did the OP enclose an invoice for the items, and were all the missing items received? Any receipt? Apology?

The shipping box was actually opened when I received it. I don't know if this was a case of the USPS mishandling the box, or wether it was just packed sloppily. My guess is that the tape used was the issue.

The keyboard was intact, but there was nothing else inside. Everything that was promised to be shipped to me from his PM was correct.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amarok on Mon, 15 July 2013, 12:39:28
To those who received items:

Did the OP enclose an invoice for the items, and were all the missing items received? Any receipt? Apology?

No invoice or receipt, but all items promised were enclosed.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:13:44
That's great!  Meanwhile, I have received no items and haven't had PM's returned.  Same old prof as far as I'm concerned.  If I get time this week I'm taking it to the next step.  I've given him plenty of opportunities to make good on this and he continues avoid me.

I'm not sure yet if legal action should be taken individually or as a group?  For those of you that have already organized something, should I just join up with you guys or pursue this on my own?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 15 July 2013, 13:29:21
That's great!  Meanwhile, I have received no items and haven't had PM's returned.  Same old prof as far as I'm concerned.  If I get time this week I'm taking it to the next step.  I've given him plenty of opportunities to make good on this and he continues avoid me.

I'm not sure yet if legal action should be taken individually or as a group?  For those of you that have already organized something, should I just join up with you guys or pursue this on my own?

You will have to pursue any legal options on your own. I suggest starting with a "demand letter." I doubt a class action suit would get anywhere, but small claims might.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 16 July 2013, 18:38:53
So, how many have now received parts from prof?  How many are still waiting?

Is anyone able to get response from PM's or is he ignoring all of us?

thoughts of the prof, "I sent 4 packages, what more do they want from me"?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: xSpartanCx on Tue, 16 July 2013, 19:06:57
If I just wanted to buy one of each switch to figure out which I like best, what would the shipping be?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Rayne on Tue, 16 July 2013, 19:12:31
If I just wanted to buy one of each switch to figure out which I like best, what would the shipping be?
i dont think you can buy switches from this GB any more, and you probably dont want to anyway...
but here is another option for you: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/sampler-kit-1.html
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Leewei on Thu, 18 July 2013, 01:51:28
Hey prof, I will be moving into a new place. I still have some hope for this groupbuy. I would like to update you with my new address and where my parts should be shipped to. I have already pm'd you and just posting so you notice. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Rendom on Thu, 18 July 2013, 03:03:19
And my LZGH is done, shipping to me now. Thanks Prof!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: zyth3x on Thu, 18 July 2013, 03:18:16
My switches have apparently shipped, I'll post again when I receive them in week or two.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Sat, 20 July 2013, 21:08:28
I was out on business all week, and it's a goddamn joke that no update has been posted since.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Sat, 20 July 2013, 22:15:24
I was out on business all week, and it's a goddamn joke that no update has been posted since.

Lol, his most recent post is him telling me to stay on topic, while he continues to only post irrelevant crap.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Sat, 20 July 2013, 23:02:47
I was out on business all week, and it's a goddamn joke that no update has been posted since.

I see nothing for this groupbuy under your use name in my spreadsheet. If you have an order that needs to be shipped please contact me via pm or email.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Leewei on Sat, 20 July 2013, 23:05:01
Hey prof did you receive my pm for the new address? Please update it. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Sat, 20 July 2013, 23:16:56
I was out on business all week, and it's a goddamn joke that no update has been posted since.

I see nothing for this groupbuy under your use name in my spreadsheet. If you have an order that needs to be shipped please contact me via pm or email.
How about you do everyone a service and post a general update instead of HIDING behind PMs you ****ing moron
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 22 July 2013, 07:26:14
I was out on business all week, and it's a goddamn joke that no update has been posted since.

I see nothing for this groupbuy under your use name in my spreadsheet. If you have an order that needs to be shipped please contact me via pm or email.
How about you do everyone a service and post a general update instead of HIDING behind PMs you ****ing moron
Piss off. Really, PMs are better for this because I don't want to get updates for this thread sent to me over your issue.

Has this gone smoothly? No. Could it go quicker? Yes. Are most you you acting like keyboard warriors? Yes.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Mon, 22 July 2013, 08:19:45
I was out on business all week, and it's a goddamn joke that no update has been posted since.

I see nothing for this groupbuy under your use name in my spreadsheet. If you have an order that needs to be shipped please contact me via pm or email.
How about you do everyone a service and post a general update instead of HIDING behind PMs you ****ing moron
Piss off. Really, PMs are better for this because I don't want to get updates for this thread sent to me over your issue.

Has this gone smoothly? No. Could it go quicker? Yes. Are most you you acting like keyboard warriors? Yes.

U mad.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 22 July 2013, 08:53:41
I was out on business all week, and it's a goddamn joke that no update has been posted since.

I see nothing for this groupbuy under your use name in my spreadsheet. If you have an order that needs to be shipped please contact me via pm or email.
How about you do everyone a service and post a general update instead of HIDING behind PMs you ****ing moron
Piss off. Really, PMs are better for this because I don't want to get updates for this thread sent to me over your issue.

Has this gone smoothly? No. Could it go quicker? Yes. Are most you you acting like keyboard warriors? Yes.

U mad.
U 12?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Mon, 22 July 2013, 10:41:22
I was out on business all week, and it's a goddamn joke that no update has been posted since.

I see nothing for this groupbuy under your use name in my spreadsheet. If you have an order that needs to be shipped please contact me via pm or email.
How about you do everyone a service and post a general update instead of HIDING behind PMs you ****ing moron
Piss off. Really, PMs are better for this because I don't want to get updates for this thread sent to me over your issue.

Has this gone smoothly? No. Could it go quicker? Yes. Are most you you acting like keyboard warriors? Yes.

U mad.
U 12?


Yes.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Mon, 22 July 2013, 10:49:39
It's great to read all this **** while waiting forever for all my stolen (until now) money
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Mon, 22 July 2013, 12:12:21
It's great to read all this **** while waiting forever for all my stolen (until now) money

Glad I can entertain you.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Mon, 22 July 2013, 16:28:29
It's great to read all this **** while waiting forever for all my stolen (until now) money

Glad I can entertain you.

Glad you can entertain me :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Batmann on Mon, 22 July 2013, 16:52:47
Hi all,
if someone here is selling an ansi 125 plate send me a pm!
thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Mon, 22 July 2013, 18:21:04
Hey prof did you receive my pm for the new address? Please update it. Thanks!

Yes I did sorry ill get back to you ASAP on that.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 24 July 2013, 03:14:15
sigh....

forget the leds, send switches. I really need them.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Wed, 24 July 2013, 03:16:55
When are you sending the big package to WFD, Prof? I asked a couple times in PMs but no reply.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 24 July 2013, 03:39:34
When are you sending the big package to WFD, Prof? I asked a couple times in PMs but no reply.

^This^
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: mashby on Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:53:45
TheProfosist please read this (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/forkingpath/the-doom-that-came-to-atlantic-city/posts/548030?utm_source=loopinsight.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Feed).

A Kickstarter funded game has gone under and the link above explains what the founder is going to do as a result of his decision. THIS is how you handle a deal that unravels, regardless of the circumstances.

Quote
My hope now is to eventually refund everyone fully. This puts all of the financial burden directly on my shoulders. Starting with those who've pre-ordered after the Kickstarter campaign through our webstore, then I'll begin working my way through the backer list, starting with those who funded at the highest levels. Unfortunately I can't give any type of schedule for the repayment as I left my job to do this project and must find work again. I'll create a separate bank account to place anything beyond my basic costs of living. Every time that account has a decent amount saved into it I'll issue a payout to a portion of the backer list. I'll post updates with each payout to keep you all informed on the progress.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: metafour on Wed, 24 July 2013, 19:54:39
TheProfosist please read this (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/forkingpath/the-doom-that-came-to-atlantic-city/posts/548030?utm_source=loopinsight.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Feed).

A Kickstarter funded game has gone under and the link above explains what the founder is going to do as a result of his decision. THIS is how you handle a deal that unravels, regardless of the circumstances.

Quote
My hope now is to eventually refund everyone fully. This puts all of the financial burden directly on my shoulders. Starting with those who've pre-ordered after the Kickstarter campaign through our webstore, then I'll begin working my way through the backer list, starting with those who funded at the highest levels. Unfortunately I can't give any type of schedule for the repayment as I left my job to do this project and must find work again. I'll create a separate bank account to place anything beyond my basic costs of living. Every time that account has a decent amount saved into it I'll issue a payout to a portion of the backer list. I'll post updates with each payout to keep you all informed on the progress.

Did you look at the comments for that post?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 24 July 2013, 21:06:51
TheProfosist please read this (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/forkingpath/the-doom-that-came-to-atlantic-city/posts/548030?utm_source=loopinsight.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Feed).

A Kickstarter funded game has gone under and the link above explains what the founder is going to do as a result of his decision. THIS is how you handle a deal that unravels, regardless of the circumstances.

Quote
My hope now is to eventually refund everyone fully. This puts all of the financial burden directly on my shoulders. Starting with those who've pre-ordered after the Kickstarter campaign through our webstore, then I'll begin working my way through the backer list, starting with those who funded at the highest levels. Unfortunately I can't give any type of schedule for the repayment as I left my job to do this project and must find work again. I'll create a separate bank account to place anything beyond my basic costs of living. Every time that account has a decent amount saved into it I'll issue a payout to a portion of the backer list. I'll post updates with each payout to keep you all informed on the progress.

Mashby,

I pretty much always agree with you but In this case i have to disagree, this is not how you handle a deal that unravels. He (Erik Chevalier) is not guaranteeing he is going to return the money he is mostly saying he "hopes" he can return the money--the guy doesn't even know. If you see the comments on KS people are blowing up. All the guy did was write a nice letter telling people what he hoped they wanted to hear.

I'm still waiting for 2 bills worth of switches so im not happy like everyone else but i just don't think you can relate a KS situation to this.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: zyth3x on Wed, 24 July 2013, 22:29:55
Update; received my switches today.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 25 July 2013, 04:37:08
sigh....

forget the leds, send switches. I really need them.

Can do


When are you sending the big package to WFD, Prof? I asked a couple times in PMs but no reply.

I will send the ones for the people that contacted me to send them to him ASAP (pasph sleepy916 affect656)


Update; received my switches today.

glad to hear it man
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: mashby on Thu, 25 July 2013, 10:29:27
Did you look at the comments for that post?

Everyone's pissed, which is understandable and those comments are all over the map, but it's getting ugly. Funding a Kickstarter project is low-level angel funding of an idea/company/project/etc. and like any investment, there is no guarantee of a return on an investment. This is, of course not at all related to a group buy. More below vvv


I pretty much always agree with you but In this case i have to disagree, this is not how you handle a deal that unravels. He (Erik Chevalier) is not guaranteeing he is going to return the money he is mostly saying he "hopes" he can return the money--the guy doesn't even know. If you see the comments on KS people are blowing up. All the guy did was write a nice letter telling people what he hoped they wanted to hear.

I'm still waiting for 2 bills worth of switches so im not happy like everyone else but i just don't think you can relate a KS situation to this.

I know the two are not related and I have not been tracking the full story either. The only reason I linked it was due to the fact that their is a similarity in that both projects were apparently mis-handled.

In the Kickstarter example, the lead listed his plans to rectify the situation. Is it a guarantee that all money will be refunded? Absolutely not, but it's at least and accounting of what the next steps are and that has value. The comments, much like several that we've had here, are going to be out pouring of angst and Erik is clearly being raked over the coals in the court of public opinion. However, it is something public and something that  shows accountability.

Compare that to this group buy. Some people have received their goods, others (such as yourself) have not and there has been no mention of refunds of money. All transactions have to take place via PM, which then forces us all to then chime in on the main thread here to try and aggregate what's actually happening. Zero transparency. Zero accountability.

Regardless of wether you agree that Erik (Kickstarter guy) handled the situation correctly, it's a far sight better than what's been done with this GroupBuy. I, for one, would much prefer public actions and accountability over death by a thousand PMs.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Thu, 25 July 2013, 15:52:21
Did you look at the comments for that post?

Everyone's pissed, which is understandable and those comments are all over the map, but it's getting ugly. Funding a Kickstarter project is low-level angel funding of an idea/company/project/etc. and like any investment, there is no guarantee of a return on an investment. This is, of course not at all related to a group buy. More below vvv


I pretty much always agree with you but In this case i have to disagree, this is not how you handle a deal that unravels. He (Erik Chevalier) is not guaranteeing he is going to return the money he is mostly saying he "hopes" he can return the money--the guy doesn't even know. If you see the comments on KS people are blowing up. All the guy did was write a nice letter telling people what he hoped they wanted to hear.

I'm still waiting for 2 bills worth of switches so im not happy like everyone else but i just don't think you can relate a KS situation to this.

I know the two are not related and I have not been tracking the full story either. The only reason I linked it was due to the fact that their is a similarity in that both projects were apparently mis-handled.

In the Kickstarter example, the lead listed his plans to rectify the situation. Is it a guarantee that all money will be refunded? Absolutely not, but it's at least and accounting of what the next steps are and that has value. The comments, much like several that we've had here, are going to be out pouring of angst and Erik is clearly being raked over the coals in the court of public opinion. However, it is something public and something that  shows accountability.

Compare that to this group buy. Some people have received their goods, others (such as yourself) have not and there has been no mention of refunds of money. All transactions have to take place via PM, which then forces us all to then chime in on the main thread here to try and aggregate what's actually happening. Zero transparency. Zero accountability.

Regardless of wether you agree that Erik (Kickstarter guy) handled the situation correctly, it's a far sight better than what's been done with this GroupBuy. I, for one, would much prefer public actions and accountability over death by a thousand PMs.


Shhhh, if you want to continue this conversation please PM me and stop threadcrapping.  /s
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 25 July 2013, 16:00:13
sigh....

forget the leds, send switches. I really need them.
Can do

Dude respond to my response to your PM, your counts you list in your PM are wrong.

see your spreadsheet for the correct counts
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AupvlvyuC9aEdGNzeXUzdjlpdmR4X2pndElOQ1I0dnc#gid=0
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Thu, 25 July 2013, 16:04:07
Did you look at the comments for that post?

Everyone's pissed, which is understandable and those comments are all over the map, but it's getting ugly. Funding a Kickstarter project is low-level angel funding of an idea/company/project/etc. and like any investment, there is no guarantee of a return on an investment. This is, of course not at all related to a group buy. More below vvv


I pretty much always agree with you but In this case i have to disagree, this is not how you handle a deal that unravels. He (Erik Chevalier) is not guaranteeing he is going to return the money he is mostly saying he "hopes" he can return the money--the guy doesn't even know. If you see the comments on KS people are blowing up. All the guy did was write a nice letter telling people what he hoped they wanted to hear.

I'm still waiting for 2 bills worth of switches so im not happy like everyone else but i just don't think you can relate a KS situation to this.

I know the two are not related and I have not been tracking the full story either. The only reason I linked it was due to the fact that their is a similarity in that both projects were apparently mis-handled.

In the Kickstarter example, the lead listed his plans to rectify the situation. Is it a guarantee that all money will be refunded? Absolutely not, but it's at least and accounting of what the next steps are and that has value. The comments, much like several that we've had here, are going to be out pouring of angst and Erik is clearly being raked over the coals in the court of public opinion. However, it is something public and something that  shows accountability.

Compare that to this group buy. Some people have received their goods, others (such as yourself) have not and there has been no mention of refunds of money. All transactions have to take place via PM, which then forces us all to then chime in on the main thread here to try and aggregate what's actually happening. Zero transparency. Zero accountability.

Regardless of wether you agree that Erik (Kickstarter guy) handled the situation correctly, it's a far sight better than what's been done with this GroupBuy. I, for one, would much prefer public actions and accountability over death by a thousand PMs.


Shhhh, if you want to continue this conversation please PM me and stop threadcrapping.  /s

ROFL
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Thu, 25 July 2013, 17:33:53
sigh....

forget the leds, send switches. I really need them.
Can do

Dude respond to my response to your PM, your counts you list in your PM are wrong.

see your spreadsheet for the correct counts
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AupvlvyuC9aEdGNzeXUzdjlpdmR4X2pndElOQ1I0dnc#gid=0


will do man I must have read it wrong
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 30 July 2013, 22:25:36
I did not participate in this GB, but it pains me so much to see so many fellow members in this situation.

I want to reach out to you, prof, and offer to help you.  If jdcarpe's post a few pages back was correct, then I believe I am within 1.5 hours of you.  If there is anything I can do to help these people get their stuff quicker I'm happy to help.  Do you need help sorting/counting switches?  Do you need help packaging and driving to the post office?  I'll admit I haven't been following this 100%, but I read through quite a few pages and it doesn't seem like the holdup has been clearly explained.

If this is an issue of simply not having the time to accomplish these tasks and being overwhelmed, I believe I could help with that.  Please respond and let me know if there's any way to help.  Again, I hate seeing so many people put in this situation and if there's anything I can do I would be very happy to help.

I apologize to anyone who might get angry that I'm posting without having participated in the GB.  I thought about it and decided that I'd rather post it than not.  I hope you understand.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Wed, 31 July 2013, 03:37:19
Why can't you just send the things that are supposed to go to WFD now. At least send the swiches.....

Why are you sending out switches 1 person per week......
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: r3dx on Thu, 01 August 2013, 06:22:45
Any new updates?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Paranoid on Thu, 01 August 2013, 07:18:20
What's the status for the LEDs and stabilizers? Haven't seen anything mentioned about it.. It will be difficult completing a keyboard without stabs!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 04 August 2013, 02:08:22
How many people still need their stuff?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 04 August 2013, 08:13:16
How many people still need their stuff?

A ton probably.  I'm still waiting on blue switches, white switches, leds, and stabs.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 04 August 2013, 08:18:34
Same, I have been wanting to talk to him but he has not been on...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 04 August 2013, 09:03:13
What's the status for the LEDs and stabilizers? Haven't seen anything mentioned about it.. It will be difficult completing a keyboard without stabs!

I'm not sure stabilizers were ever paid for.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Sun, 04 August 2013, 14:40:37
So, like a fool, I believed prof when he said he would send me my stuff.  He agreed to terms and said he would ship.  Nothing here and it's been about two weeks.  Thanks for making me feel like a fool again prof.  PS, I hate you.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Sun, 04 August 2013, 16:43:23
When are you sending the big package to WFD, Prof? I asked a couple times in PMs but no reply.

I will send the ones for the people that contacted me to send them to him ASAP (pasph sleepy916 affect656)

STILL NOTHING
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 04 August 2013, 20:38:39
We all want them ASAP its past due....
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 07 August 2013, 10:43:46
has anyone heard from this guy?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 07 August 2013, 10:53:45
has anyone heard from this guy?

Lolololololol.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: oluf on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:23:57
I am still hopeful that 7bit is willing to ship switches to us directly.. I will happily pay the extra shipping to get my switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 07 August 2013, 13:40:49
At this point I'm saying we go through with sending out a letter before going to claims. What, 5% of the total money sent has been shipped? If bavman hasn't sent the PCBs and plates to him yet, I'm now 100% sure I'm want them sent to me. Then I'll work out something with 7bit and cut my loses on assembly.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: r3dx on Wed, 07 August 2013, 15:08:22
So I take it no body has received anything in the past few weeks based on the lack of updates...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 07 August 2013, 17:05:29
last i heard was ill have my switches "asap" and that was 2 weeks ago. An update would be nice.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Wed, 07 August 2013, 21:19:25
What does asap mean?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 07 August 2013, 21:19:53
As soon as possible
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Thu, 08 August 2013, 01:22:04
I believe you have just been trolled CPT, lol.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jonathanyu on Thu, 08 August 2013, 01:32:05
what is MXLOCK?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 08 August 2013, 07:28:12
what is MXLOCK?

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Lock
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 11 August 2013, 07:23:08
So he sends stuff to 2 people just to go off for 3 weeks.....
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: AKIMbO on Sun, 11 August 2013, 07:36:19
So he sends stuff to 2 people just to go off for 3 weeks.....

Yes, do you not notice he sent mashby's stuff...probably because mashby was the one who was threatening to send a demand letter/bring a lawsuit.  Everyone should write this off as a loss.  It's obvious Prof isn't doing s**t to correct the situation.  Face it...we all got scammed.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 11 August 2013, 10:34:19
I say release the information. It's been long enough.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Sun, 11 August 2013, 11:42:44
I gave you the benefit of the doubt but now I'm starting to see things more clearly.
I am adding finally realizing and adding things up. You are a sick person.
How doyou have so much extra money but still ask for more without even showing any proof that you spent all the money in the first place!
It's quite clear when you look at all the posts from these many months side by side.
I'm pretty sure that you even have spare accounts just to throw this thread off topic...
Much more than that.  There is a spreadsheet in the OP if you were so inclined.  $200 from me, though.
$5996.35

That's what I got but it was quick copy pasting and excel work so no idea on the accuracy though it's a pretty good number just looking over it. That isn't including shipping.



EDIT - Also looks like bavman is sending out orders so this can't be held up for anybody except white switches...
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg915450#msg915450 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38441.msg915450#msg915450)


What I said yesterday about waiting to start the whole pitchfork thing, yeah, we're getting close.

I got a similar answer  :-X

Much more than that.  There is a spreadsheet in the OP if you were so inclined.  $200 from me, though.

someone please check my math but I just did multiplication and addition in excel.....

Well if I'm looking at that spreadsheet right its somewhere around ~$6,000+ total

Half of that is for switches ~$3,000

Around ~$1200 in the various assembly charges

Almost $1,000 just in the PLU-87 boards.....


You can view your order here please pm me if you need to change anything http://tinyurl.com/afxd5o8

Quick number crunching. According to this spreadsheet, he has collected $6004 + paypal fees. He still has not ordered stabilizers ($456), LEDs ($156), still owes 7bit ($132), and still owes me ($225). That is a $969 deficit. Assuming no parts were for profit, he still collected $1255 in assembly fees.

So basically that is $2,224 that is unaccounted for. Either a terrible miscalculation on his part, or that GB money he collected was spent on personal things. I just cannot believe this.... someone check my math.

Prof, you still need to answer the specific questions from my last PM. There is over $2,000 not accounted for. What exactly happened to the rest of this money? And please take a picture of all the PLUs that you supposedly have.



So, im looking for someone to kindly collect the money via goods and send to WFD as gift.

Basically he is asking for someone to volunteer to contact everyone that ordered stabilizers, collect all money for stabs AGAIN, then send it to me in one large lump so I can ship him the plates, PCBs, and stabs. If you read the PMs here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38471.msg922661#msg922661) again, you can see mentions of this exact thing I just said. Yes that's right, he wants you to pay for stabilizers again, something that he already collected money for. Not only that, someone else (except him) must send PMs to everyone in this GB and manage the payments.

Not only does he not have proof of any of the goods he stole this guy's ErgoDox:
Here's some info (mainly ErgoDox-related) I've been able to gather that might be helpful, if anyone is looking for some more info to this knowledge-base of a thread:

In late January/early February, I ordered an ErgoDox without switches & ErgoDox assembly from him via the MassDrop "GB" for it, and I also ordered MX Whites via this Phantom Parts GB. The plan was to have the Dox built with those MX Whites. In early April, MD mistakenly sent me an unassembled ErgoDox, but I told them I wanted it assembled, like I've ordered it. They sent me a label to send it to him. I've sent it to him and the tracking said it was delivered - again, this was about two months ago.

Via this thread, MX Whites might not be available at the moment (or at least not all of them) because 7bit did not quite have enough available prior to the pre-order status that they're currently in (which should end by July or something). Also, SF has said something like Prof doesn't want to build ErgoDoxes until he has all the parts from this Phantom GB.

MD has not charged me for the assembly at any point. That might be a holdup through this whole situation. But it's kind of weird how it's all kind of coming around in circles (the possibility that MD doesn't want to charge buyers to give to Prof until they know the builds are going to happen; him not wanting to build until he has parts; not being able to get all parts because of what's available/what he still owes 7bit via cash he needs to get from MD).

And until I get anything I'm down ~$310 (aluminum Dox, MX Whites) with the possibility of $60 more (assembly that hasn't been charged yet).

He way overcharged us for Stabilizers:
$8 for stabilizers?! I've sold a few bags worth at $1 per stabilizer... (75cents for WFD)

TheProfosist was also a dropout of my Krytox GPL 200 GB... Why did he order one in the first place?!... He said he didn't have any money, but that same day he bought a GirlDC black whale and 3 aluminum spacebars! (Over $200!!)

Finally a real PM to me with actual substance, after a very long time of waiting. I'll just post it here.

tl;dr - Prof has no income and zero money left to buy the remaining parts or to ship out your stuff. He's waiting on money from Massdrop, but I doubt that will be enough for everything. You may have to pay him (again?) to ship out stuff or for stabilizers/LEDs.



I'm already picking up your slack. Tell me why you charge $8 for stabs and I need to sell for a loss? You keep the profit from assembly and parts while I have to do all your work? If you can't even pay me money that's not even part of the assembly and GB parts, money that you personally owe me, which you kept promising to pay me a long time ago, what makes me believe that you'll actually refund people for these parts once massdrop pays you?


I shortened this up as I didnt feel like re-writing everything I wrote before and lost.

what slack of mine are you picking up?

why i charged $8 is because thats what it was for the lowest tier + the cost of a wire from you. And I would love to keep the profit if i had any.

What do yo umean while I have to do all your work? I plan to build all the boards because I cant pay anyone.

The not haveing any money from the GB is 100% my poor planning aparently and not watching everything very carefully as I was paying for it, so ill attest to that. Ill get you the money for the stuff you have been holding for me as i just stated in my last PM but im have to sell the stuff, I hope thats alright with you. You dont have to believe me, no one every has any real reason to believe anyone, especially over the internet. All I have to say though is though I may take some time I have always gotten people their stuff or money in the end and though you may not believe me I never considered not getting them what I said I would.

The instant I have money from Massdrop I can send it to you instead if you wish then you can just refund the money you were sent (if your the one thats going to collect it). I dont know if thats any better or if anyone will even go for that idea/plan. I just want to do something that will will get this GB to the point where I can start shipping out parts and building keyboards. The sooner this happens the better, I need to get this GB over and outa my life.


What slack? Answering PMs from people that ask me what's going on. Reorganize my spreadsheet and bavman's spreadsheet where everything should go. There were also a bunch of people that requested for me to handle their package, rather than you handling it. I've been in back and forth communication with these guys, and it does take up my time work with them. I'm combining shipping for some of these packages, and will be sending it directly to them as requested, rather than passing it on to you. Some of them already went out. So even after all this, you still want me to send out individual PM to the whole GB, asking them to pay me directly for stabilizers, which you had already collected money for? Is it really my job to contact everyone, and mange payment again?


So all your personal stuff that I'm holding for you and helped you pay for them... basically you kept making empty promises of paying me back for them, then now you finally tell me you're going to sell it? You could have told me this 6 months ago or try to sell it a while ago so that my money isn't held up, and I'm not stuck with your personal stuff at my place. Now after you sell them, it's my time and responsibility to package and ship them out? Seriously... wtf is this...


Your last response was the first one in a while that you actually said something. But you still need to be more specific, because I need to know, and I'm sure everyone else would like to know as well. You've collected all payments already, and even more than what the parts costs since they've already paid for the assembly fees. Where did all this money go if you did not spend it for your personal things? If 7bit charged you more for switches than what he initially said, you shouldn't have placed the order until you worked out the budget. How much did you end up paying for the switches? How much were the PLU keyboards? How many ergo-dox do you need to assemble, and how much total money is massdrop paying you? Did people already pay you for the shipping costs in advance? If you can't even find the time to give updates or respond, how are you going to have time to build everything and package/ship them out? Just do some quick number crunching man. I don't think what massdrop will pay you, will be enough to cover all your "debt". You still need to pay for stabilizers, (shipping to each person?), and personal money you owe me.


Just To Be Clear

On February 1, 2013, I Paid The Following:
   $65.00 - Lubed switches and assembly
   $05.00 - Desoldering PLU-87
   $80.00 - PLU-87 Keyboard
   $08.00 - Cherry Stabilizers
   $05.53 - PayPal Fees
------------------------------------
   $163.53 Total

The only hard goods that have supposedly been purchased for my order is the PLU-87 keyboard -- although I have seen no proof that you have the boards in hand. Deducting PayPal fees, I've paid you $158 for an $80 keyboard. The remaining $78 is gone because...

Into higher prices and exchange rate changes is my best guess at this point.

The Breakdown
Assuming the spreadsheet on Google Doc is correct, and I haven't seen anyone say otherwise, I breakdown the money that was collected as follows:

AmountItem
$3,001.35Switches
$960PLU-87 Keyboards (12 in all)
$1,255Assembly Services (basic, spring swap, lubed and desoldering)
$632Stabilizers (that were never purchased
$156LED swap outs
$6,004.35Total Received Payments

In other words you collected:
   $3,961.35 in goods that were alegedly purchased
   $2,043 in services and goods that were never purchased (stabilizers)

And due to the fluctuations in the Euro, we're supposed to believe that the expected $4,000 in goods actually cost $6,000, or 67% more than expected?

I actually think this number is higher. The only evidence we've seen of goods actually purchased are the switches from 7bit. There's been no evidence that the PLUs have actually been ordered, or received. Throw that on the pile and we're now looking at $3000 that is unaccounted for.

If I would have managed this better that wouldnt have been a problem but o wells. Its only another $45 or so total on all 628 switches.

It's not just another $45 you idiot, it's thousands of dollars that have gone missing with no serious answer as to WTF happened to it.



If Only...
I keep saying this over-and-over in my mind trying to make peace with this debacle of a group buy. I know it's just my psyche going through the seven stages of anger, but I can't help it.

If only... you had charged for the hard goods and not the services, then I wouldn't be out as much money.

If only...  you'd admitted that you had made a mistake before spending the money, we could have chosen different options, or at least try and make a course correction.

If only... you'd explained that your estimates were off we could have made up the difference and gladly given you more money. *shudder*

If only... you'd admitted that you didn't know how to add someone could have stepped in and given you a calculator.

If only... you'd admitted you were unqualified to run a group buy, someone would have gladly volunteered to take over, or at least pitch in.

If only... you had communicated like you did before you took receipt of the money there wouldn't be so much vitriol.

If only... you were actually being honest and not feeding us a line of bull****.  >:D


But, You Chose This
There are so many different ways this could have turned out, but you CHOSE to take us all down this road. All throughout this thread are offers of assistance and help, but as you said...

I did everything no one helped me with anything and am glad I did that way no one it getting dragged down with me.

So instead of enlisting help, you've chosen to drag everyone that trusted you with their money down this road of shame with you.

You have chosen to lie and steal and be deceptive. You have chosen to drag this out in the hopes of covering up your mistakes, or to perhaps go undetected. I don't know why you've made the choices you have and it really doesn't matter what they are. In the end, the reasons rarely justify the means in situations involving theft.

So you can continue to drag this out and tell us...

Im working on sending out some PMs and Emails as we speak after that im going to get caught back up on the thread as it seems it gotten awfully personal.

Guys I am alive (contrary to some beliefs) and I wont let you guys be boned (no matter how much some of you seem to want to be).

Hey guys sorry about not getting the response up, life has in no way going my way (murphy's law is a *****). I know what your going to think/say when i say this but ill do my best to post responses and reply to pms/emails before the start of next week. Before you ask I will most likely not be posting anything today as i wont be sitting down near a computer long enough to do so.

I havnt checked out guys you should get a response from me tomorrow starting back with my other post. O and I received another bag of switches today from 7bit.

I can start shipping stuff out to people who just ordered switches using the switches I do have.

Im not blowing anyone off. I am not shipping parts because I dont have them all.

As for an update as to when theyll ship, thats quite hard to say as I dont know when ill have the rest of the parts. And YES I am actively trying to get the rest in.

ROFL funny man, just so you know I havnt replied to anyone or anything this week yet.

But, a big thanks to those who respected my post about being unavailable for GH stuff until the following monday. I appreciate not getting flooded while I dont have the ability or time to answer.

ok here are some verbal updates (I know many you want pictures as well thell be soonish to follow)

hey guys! looks round... wow a lot happens in a couple days doesnt it...

guys Ill get an update, info, replies,  and stuff tomorrow I have good news (I think) and yes I was overloaded but not anymore (I think). Yes,  i am currently busy but with GH stuff for the most part.

If your worried about this not getting done dont worry it will as I have stopped most of my life to straighten this and other GH stuff out properly. On another note I will never be running another GB but will continue with assembly for those who want be to build their board but never a full blown service ever most likely.

everything  metalliqaz said is correct as of Sun May 5th at 1600

Does this mean you're sending out all our orders?
some of them will go out soon, for the people that only ordered parts that is.

yo dudes whats up? I have recovered and am getting back on this today. I have some more inventory that I havnt been able to update you about. Expect a update either late today or tomorrow once I have organized/figured/etc.



The Bottom Line
You can't be trusted. You're not a man of your word and you committed fraud on the GeekHack community.

Just added it all up from the  spreadsheet. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuzaglYTy1FjdFlvNGlNVWFtdE1fd3djZ2VXa2pUVEE&usp=sharing) My data may also be irrelevant compared to WFD etc. Just sharing what I have to offer.

I want to say something really really snide right now, but to cut it short.

Prof, if you see this..  There was a young man who fought with you to try and get this all resolved.  Do the right thing and be better because of him.

I was thinking the same thing. He tried so hard to straighten things out. I only wish I could thank him for his efforts. Don't let it go in vain.

If SmallFry were still here I know he would be fighting for us. I think it's about time we start doing what he would have been doing if he were still here.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 12:36:35
I'm sending out my demand letters tomorrow.  I'll also be contacting the fraud department at my bank as well as small claims court.  I may spend more money doing this and not get parts or money in return, but I just feel robbed.  I'm going to make sure this isn't easy for prof to just take peoples money.  Their are real life consequences for fraud.  If all I get out of this is the knowledge that prof is fined, or went to jail then I will be happy.

Also, I don't know how much truth their is to this, but someone posted that Bill Rishel of the first congregational united church of Christ is his preacher.  You all may want to send him an email or physical letter to let him know what kind of people are populating his church.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 12 August 2013, 12:42:08
I'll be sending a demand letter to the prof here:

MOD EDIT: REMOVED

DO NOT POST PERSONAL INFORMATION
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nubbinator on Mon, 12 August 2013, 12:48:19
Please remove the personal information from your post.  It is against the forum TOS that you can find here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39249.0).

This does need to be resolved and TheProfosist deserves to be called out for his actions here, but don't post his personal info in the open.  If it takes threat of legal action for him to make things right, I'm all for it, but only share that info with people who request it via PM.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 13 August 2013, 01:57:02
I just want my Glod damn switches; you have them right prof? so work an hour flipping burgers to make the postage and send me them. i just don't understand this at all; its so ****ed up. my hopes got raised a few weeks ago and now diminished.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Leewei on Tue, 13 August 2013, 05:46:42
Hi have you shipped them out yet? Please reply so I know if I can expect them =)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 13 August 2013, 08:52:32
I will be sending out my demand letter also, Elliot.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 15 August 2013, 19:05:03
I WANT MY SWITCHES
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Beast on Thu, 15 August 2013, 19:17:35
I WANT MY SWITCHES

I think moose has some MY switches. You should ask him
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 15 August 2013, 23:19:03
:/
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:17:45
Can someone PM me the prof's email address.  I'm sending my demand letter both by email and certified mail.  BTW, I spoke to an attorney who recommended that if you are sending demand letters, they have to be certified.  The email is just further more due diligence.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: gizzard on Mon, 19 August 2013, 20:45:24
Sigh

I dont understand why he PMed me two months back saying he was on it... But then nothing... very strange...  Also, he seems to log into GH everyday... I mean, if you are going to disappear with people's money, actually disappear..

its almost too half hazard to actually be a scam... lol
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 20 August 2013, 09:52:39
For people who have sent letters, can they PM me an example and where to go to make it official? I'm only out ~$160 but.... I want my ****.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 20 August 2013, 09:56:12
He logged on Sunday only to take this group buy off his signature.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: gizzard on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:45:55
I would think that, as a bare minimum, he should get a board ban?

Of course you would have to have a formal way for complaints to be logged.....
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 20 August 2013, 16:58:06
I would think that, as a bare minimum, he should get a board ban?

Of course you would have to have a formal way for complaints to be logged.....

If they ban him then any hope of anyone getting the remainder of their stuff is essentially lost.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheQsanity on Tue, 20 August 2013, 18:28:54
We've kept faith for over half a year. He will not voluntarily give up our stuff. Its either we fight for what is ours and have a chance to get our stuff along with some justice or we hope for another year.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 20 August 2013, 21:56:31
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 22 August 2013, 15:10:03
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES
SEND ME SWITCHES

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 28 August 2013, 04:21:22
Prof......
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 28 August 2013, 05:28:00
When are you sending the big package to WFD, Prof? I asked a couple times in PMs but no reply.

I will send the ones for the people that contacted me to send them to him ASAP (pasph sleepy916 affect656)

STILL NOTHING

1 MONTH AND STILL NOTHING
There's still someone that thinks TheProfosist isn't a scammer?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Wed, 28 August 2013, 19:10:52
what is the status with the demand letters?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: TheProfosist on Wed, 28 August 2013, 23:52:06
Hey guys im sorry that I didnt get out your stuff when I said I would probably a month ago now. I have had a fair bit of **** going down in my life. I plan to resume shipping end of next week and yes I already know how all of you are going to reply to this so I wont be checking this thread again until then.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Grimey on Thu, 29 August 2013, 11:36:07
what is the status with the demand letters?

I would say they appear to be having an effect.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 31 August 2013, 13:07:57
I'm on vacation for two more weeks, and never get to check internet.  I'll send my demand letter when I get back.  Internet access is spotty.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 06 September 2013, 17:58:40
I already know how all of you are going to reply to this so I wont be checking this thread again until then.
Thoroughly lol'd.

Sorry for all of you guys who have money tied up in this.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 06 September 2013, 18:10:25
I already know how all of you are going to reply to this so I wont be checking this thread again until then.
Thoroughly lol'd.

Sorry for all of you guys who have money tied up in this.

:( my money isn't just tied up, im thinking its gone for good
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: MKULTRA on Fri, 06 September 2013, 18:37:43
I already know how all of you are going to reply to this so I wont be checking this thread again until then.
Thoroughly lol'd.

Sorry for all of you guys who have money tied up in this.

:( my money isn't just tied up, im thinking its gone for good
Yeah it is pretty disgusting.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Ed on Fri, 06 September 2013, 19:12:25
Since July 25 he has only made that 1 post on August 28. I think he's tired of keeping up the facade that people will eventually get their stuff. You'd think there would be a way to make some legal documents with people giving their information and permission for police to confiscate their stuff from him. I know I remember seeing cases where people got their computers back after proving to the police that it was in a certain location, and the police confiscated them and returned them to their rightful owners.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 06 September 2013, 19:23:34
i know many here would disagree and say im a buzz kill but being as i am a person in the legal industry(not an attorney!), specifically litigation, I see no way any legal action settlement or conviction is possible; I've said this many times in this thread before. Because of Paypal, which has arbitration contracts and does not comply with record requests, being our transaction method and that this would require the owner of geekhack give a deposition and would have to admit some sort of liability in all this. That **** you see on TV is total bull****, litigation even on a small scale of claims, is extremely complicated now; anything you print out from geekhack and paypal is NOT admissable in court. You may be able to get this to go to court but you will never win. I am under the opinion, again as a person that works with litigation cases (not as a lawyer), that we are ****ed.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 06 September 2013, 19:33:28
^

i guess i should revise my statement and say legal action IS possible, i worded that wrong, but even though legal action is possible, you wont win, that is my opinion
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Fri, 06 September 2013, 19:41:14
At least the Prof is responding once in a while, the BSP groupbuy organizer hasn't made a peep.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: meiosis on Sat, 07 September 2013, 02:46:16
At least the Prof is responding once in a while, the BSP groupbuy organizer hasn't made a peep.

BSP organizer said that paypal locked him since people were charging back and he wouldnt get access to the money for 6 months, so he told everyone to charge back and he will be seen as the scammer, but will accept that. In that case people should have chargebacked I believe. I have mixed feelings because I feel if sherryton maybe discussed it a bit more before forcing gmk to cancel them, both parties could have setttled for maybe a slight premium. but in this case vintage got shafted and his paypal locked out so couldn't even refund although I believe BSP was already had the funds in hand as well.

On the other hand Prof probably hasn't had time to move, probably trying to delay legal action (which  I agree no one can win since its a small claim, and paypal is long past the chargeback time) has essentially gven him a favorable position. A while back, I believe a member posted he would file legal action and was in possession of TheProf's address and real life information. Only then, did he see his items, everyone else was left in the dust (who did not threaten legal consequences).

As much as it pains me to see what has been done to my fellow members, there is not much to be done (legally) to obtain these boards/money back). And although I'm new to this forum before this GB/Bavman;s ever happened, it pains me to see these two threads and fellow members left without items or their money. Perhaps paypal will listen if everyone files a chargeback through their bank or paypal account?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: longweight on Sat, 07 September 2013, 03:00:21
The Phantom PCB and plate GB has also gone down the toilet, no updates and nothing shipped yet.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tonyl0822 on Sat, 07 September 2013, 07:36:57
to late..
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sat, 07 September 2013, 07:43:31
 
The Phantom PCB and plate GB has also gone down the toilet, no updates and nothing shipped yet.

As far as I know the plate's went out just fine.

to late..

You didn't miss much but keep it up and you'll get to 60 soon so you can sell whatever it is your looking to sell  8)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 07 September 2013, 15:47:54
I got a shipping notification!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: meiosis on Sat, 07 September 2013, 16:13:02
I got a shipping notification!

:O
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Sat, 07 September 2013, 19:26:05
i wish i had a shipping notice :(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Sat, 07 September 2013, 20:28:48
At least the Prof is responding once in a while, the BSP groupbuy organizer hasn't made a peep.

BSP organizer said that paypal locked him since people were charging back and he wouldnt get access to the money for 6 months, so he told everyone to charge back and he will be seen as the scammer, but will accept that. In that case people should have chargebacked I believe. I have mixed feelings because I feel if sherryton maybe discussed it a bit more before forcing gmk to cancel them, both parties could have setttled for maybe a slight premium. but in this case vintage got shafted and his paypal locked out so couldn't even refund although I believe BSP was already had the funds in hand as well.


Going off topic for a little bit. But I didn't take it as that, it seemed like he was saying since people already filed with paypal and would be ok with being seen as a scammer from that. Not to reverse right away otherwise believe me, I would have.

I didn't see the 6 month part either, but I think like the Prof groupbuy, there is a huge need for communication and being transparent. It's been over a month since he said he would update but nothing.

I'm glad some people are getting more shipping notices, slow and steady... :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Sat, 07 September 2013, 21:27:24
I think a problem may be how the PCB GB is going as well. I don't know the status of those PCBs, but bavman hasn't shipped them all and is dealing with personal things and MIA for the last month.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: bisl on Sun, 08 September 2013, 14:52:41
Since July 25 he has only made that 1 post on August 28. I think he's tired of keeping up the facade that people will eventually get their stuff.

Mine just shipped.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 08 September 2013, 15:27:44
Been trying to track down all the parts. I talked to 7bit on DT about the status of switches and his response was:

Quote from: 7bit on DT
The last package has not been sent out because I still wait for around $100.

I consider to just ship what has been paid for, keep the rest of the ordered switches and clear the order, so his account is 0.



and I think WFD might still have plates/PCBs but no confirmation on that yet.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Sun, 08 September 2013, 21:14:43
so has he offered any compensation for the paid soldering services that no one has received?

or does he think shipping just the materials 6+ months later makes everything OK
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Sun, 08 September 2013, 23:17:27
i really hope the those who signed up for services get some sort of resolution. But if he is indeed shipping the stuff he has, including my stuff i hope, then that at least raises him a level from a total scammer to something slightly above that. if he resolves the whole GB he may be able to escape threats and demand letters the rest of his life.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: MKULTRA on Sun, 08 September 2013, 23:53:05
i really hope the those who signed up for services get some sort of resolution. But if he is indeed shipping the stuff he has, including my stuff i hope, then that at least raises him a level from a total scammer to something slightly above that. if he resolves the whole GB he may be able to escape threats and demand letters the rest of his life.
Still completely unacceptable and deserving of no respect from the community.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: bisl on Mon, 09 September 2013, 12:09:29
Switches in hand.

(http://i.imgur.com/xU1pJOt.jpg)

Thanks Prof!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Mon, 09 September 2013, 20:03:32
270 switches!
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Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 10 September 2013, 01:40:03
now where is my 360 switches?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Leewei on Sun, 15 September 2013, 13:54:26
I've had my kmac since may and haven't gotten a chance to build it yet cause I don't have any switches. Can you please let me know when you plan to ship my parts? =)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Mon, 16 September 2013, 23:41:38
I'm on vacation for two more weeks, and never get to check internet.  I'll send my demand letter when I get back.  Internet access is spotty.
status?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Acanthophis on Tue, 17 September 2013, 06:09:17
FYI
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1980.html#p126172 (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1980.html#p126172)

Quote
Payment/"shipping" update

Payments from <username>, TheProfosist (!), <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, and <username> have been received and marked as shipped for Paypal purposes (to keep them from locking up the PP account). Invoices may or may not reflect the payments yet. Keep checking this thread for the actual ship date(s), or spam this thread/7bit via PM the message "WHERE ARE MY SWITCHES, DID YOU SEND THEM YET." This only includes payments to me via Paypal. Note that the address on your Paypal notifications/notes are not necessarily the addresses 7bit will ship your switches to, he ships to the address on your invoice.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: fl0w3n on Tue, 17 September 2013, 11:27:42
I don't feel like digging back to my last check in point, where is bavman?

This sucks have everything sitting here waiting to be built but no plate to build it with 
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Wildcard on Tue, 17 September 2013, 13:55:24
I don't feel like digging back to my last check in point, where is bavman?

This sucks have everything sitting here waiting to be built but no plate to build it with 

I know
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 17 September 2013, 20:09:17
FYI
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1980.html#p126172 (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1980.html#p126172)

Quote
Payment/"shipping" update

Payments from <username>, TheProfosist (!), <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, and <username> have been received and marked as shipped for Paypal purposes (to keep them from locking up the PP account). Invoices may or may not reflect the payments yet. Keep checking this thread for the actual ship date(s), or spam this thread/7bit via PM the message "WHERE ARE MY SWITCHES, DID YOU SEND THEM YET." This only includes payments to me via Paypal. Note that the address on your Paypal notifications/notes are not necessarily the addresses 7bit will ship your switches to, he ships to the address on your invoice.

Well that is interesting

but wth, i really need those switches that he is already in possession of. come on prof, you said ASAP
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 18 September 2013, 03:31:31
FYI
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1980.html#p126172 (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1980.html#p126172)

Quote
Payment/"shipping" update

Payments from <username>, TheProfosist (!), <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, <username>, and <username> have been received and marked as shipped for Paypal purposes (to keep them from locking up the PP account). Invoices may or may not reflect the payments yet. Keep checking this thread for the actual ship date(s), or spam this thread/7bit via PM the message "WHERE ARE MY SWITCHES, DID YOU SEND THEM YET." This only includes payments to me via Paypal. Note that the address on your Paypal notifications/notes are not necessarily the addresses 7bit will ship your switches to, he ships to the address on your invoice.

Well that is interesting

but wth, i really need those switches that he is already in possession of. come on prof, you said ASAP

He said "ASAP" 2 MONTHS AGO...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: The_Ed on Wed, 18 September 2013, 03:37:44
As Soon As Possible Postponed
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: oluf on Sat, 21 September 2013, 12:02:05
I think it's great that a select few have received their switches... What about the rest of us?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Sat, 21 September 2013, 15:17:05
I haven't received mine.  I can't even get communication going with him.  The prof is a piece of ****.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Sun, 22 September 2013, 23:54:34
I haven't received mine.  I can't even get communication going with him.  The prof is a piece of ****.
demand letter?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Tue, 24 September 2013, 13:35:52
no, I've been out of the country for a month or so.  I'll get back on the demand letter.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Wed, 25 September 2013, 15:00:15
Switches ASAP  :mad:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 08 October 2013, 00:44:12
almost 2 weeks later......... never forget...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 14 October 2013, 01:22:20
I'm confused. Why would he pay the money to 7bit but then not update anything. Seems off to me.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: cgbuen on Mon, 14 October 2013, 12:12:22
I couldn't get the situation resolved with 7bit, to have him send me my Whites directly.. he sent them to Prof.

Well, demand letter to Prof on the way..
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: AKIMbO on Mon, 14 October 2013, 12:37:05
I couldn't get the situation resolved with 7bit, to have him send me my Whites directly.. he sent them to Prof.

Well, demand letter to Prof on the way..

So Prof now has all the switches ordered from 7bit?  I'm still owed 100+ white and 100+ blue switches from this GB.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 14 October 2013, 13:09:24
360 switches owed to me, i haven't built my other Phantom because im waiting on the switches, i wanted to swap out switches in another keyboard as well but  im waiting on the switches. I feel if i buy them again from someone/something else then i would be defeated.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: cgbuen on Mon, 14 October 2013, 16:47:22
Recall that 7bit stalled on sending a portion of all these GB switches to him in these past few months, because 7bit needed some outstanding payments from him.

Prof then did pay him a little less than a month ago, so yes, 7bit has already shipped to him by now.

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-1980.html#p126172
http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-2190.html#p128944
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 14 October 2013, 21:18:13
really this whole thing makes me angry and turn red every time i think about it. this was a substantial amount of money.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Wed, 16 October 2013, 01:04:44
I'm still owed many things from this GB.  Prof promised he would send me switches, needless to say, I've never heard from him again.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Thimplum on Thu, 17 October 2013, 08:29:38
wow. that's no fun. It's almost like the changdrew thing.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Thu, 17 October 2013, 18:48:23
I got my hopes up when he started shipping some things out again. He even said my stuff was next to be shipped out. Fooled again, shame on me.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Wed, 23 October 2013, 00:53:12
Hi Prof!

you relly are ****ng with me and I am not eaccepting this any more. You have 4 complete Keyboards from me, lots of Money. When the **** do you plan on shipping this?

Fabian
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: cgbuen on Wed, 23 October 2013, 01:57:36
Could anyone who's sent a demand letter to him PM me? Need to verify address and ask a few questions.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 23 October 2013, 09:12:12
When the **** do you plan on shipping this?

Fabian

He doesn't plan on shipping you anything. That's the joke. He's now a scammer, and you're in Germany, so what can you do about it? Nothing.

Some of the people who sent demand letters should really consider contacting the small claims court in his county to file a suit against him. Even if there is a small chance of winning, that's better than your chance of getting anything if you don't take him to court, which is exactly zero.

That's right, Prof. There is no redemption for you. I'm calling you out right here and now as a scammer. I hope you enjoyed taking people's money and property, because I will do everything in my power to make sure no one ever trusts you again.

I'm not going to dox you here, but if someone wants any information that I do have, such as the name and phone number of the pastor of your church, I will give it to them privately. They can do with that information as they will. You deserve whatever befalls you at this point.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 23 October 2013, 09:14:54
When the **** do you plan on shipping this?

Fabian

He doesn't plan on shipping you anything. That's the joke. He's now a scammer, and you're in Germany, so what can you do about it? Nothing.

Some of the people who sent demand letters should really consider contacting the small claims court in his county to file a suit against him. Even if there is a small chance of winning, that's better than your chance of getting anything if you don't take him to court, which is exactly zero.

That's right, Prof. There is no redemption for you. I'm calling you out right here and now as a scammer. I hope you enjoyed taking people's money and property, because I will do everything in my power to make sure no one ever trusts you again.

I'm not going to dox you here, but if someone wants any information that I do have, such as the name and phone number of the pastor of your church, I will give it to them privately. They can do with that information as they will. You deserve whatever befalls you at this point.

i love JD more and more each day
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 23 October 2013, 11:00:52
When the **** do you plan on shipping this?

Fabian

He doesn't plan on shipping you anything. That's the joke. He's now a scammer, and you're in Germany, so what can you do about it? Nothing.

Some of the people who sent demand letters should really consider contacting the small claims court in his county to file a suit against him. Even if there is a small chance of winning, that's better than your chance of getting anything if you don't take him to court, which is exactly zero.

That's right, Prof. There is no redemption for you. I'm calling you out right here and now as a scammer. I hope you enjoyed taking people's money and property, because I will do everything in my power to make sure no one ever trusts you again.

I'm not going to dox you here, but if someone wants any information that I do have, such as the name and phone number of the pastor of your church, I will give it to them privately. They can do with that information as they will. You deserve whatever befalls you at this point.

Oh this should be fun.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 23 October 2013, 15:23:09
I'm having loads of fun. I'm stuck in this, the acrylic case that has no communication, and GH60.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: MKULTRA on Wed, 23 October 2013, 15:24:01
I'm having loads of fun. I'm stuck in this, the acrylic case that has no communication, and GH60.
Which acrylic case?  Also GH60 is moving again.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 23 October 2013, 15:45:16
When the **** do you plan on shipping this?

Fabian

He doesn't plan on shipping you anything. That's the joke. He's now a scammer, and you're in Germany, so what can you do about it? Nothing.

Some of the people who sent demand letters should really consider contacting the small claims court in his county to file a suit against him. Even if there is a small chance of winning, that's better than your chance of getting anything if you don't take him to court, which is exactly zero.

That's right, Prof. There is no redemption for you. I'm calling you out right here and now as a scammer. I hope you enjoyed taking people's money and property, because I will do everything in my power to make sure no one ever trusts you again.

I'm not going to dox you here, but if someone wants any information that I do have, such as the name and phone number of the pastor of your church, I will give it to them privately. They can do with that information as they will. You deserve whatever befalls you at this point.

Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: longweight on Wed, 23 October 2013, 15:50:18
Finally something might be done about this guy stealing money and keyboard parts!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 23 October 2013, 16:49:22
I'm having loads of fun. I'm stuck in this, the acrylic case that has no communication, and GH60.
Which acrylic case?  Also GH60 is moving again.
GH60 is back on, again. How long that lasts...

This case.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44896.330;topicseen
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: demik on Thu, 24 October 2013, 22:52:29
was going through old thread and saw this..

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33167.msg741125#msg741125

wonder wtf happened
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: bueller on Thu, 24 October 2013, 23:06:13
was going through old thread and saw this..

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33167.msg741125#msg741125

wonder wtf happened

Crack habit?

Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Thu, 24 October 2013, 23:11:10
hey it could seriously be a drug problem, lets throw that out there maybe he will bite

almost up on the 2 month mark since he last posted, though i have seen him online like weekly here.

It is going to continue to get to me for maybe forever. He posts pictures many months ago of a massive 7-bit package of switches, at least a couple thousand switches would fit in that given my package from 7-bit in the past. meaning he has at least partial of the parts owed to people and if he just mailed that stuff out it really would have at least showed us he is not a scammer.

i don't understand how after all this time since he first mentioned he was having trouble to WFD many months ago, he still doesn't have postage to mail out what he does have in parts. Even if you worked minimum wage part time job to cover this by now you would have the money to buy bubble mailers and postage.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: demik on Thu, 24 October 2013, 23:18:34
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12209

last active, today.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 25 October 2013, 14:04:15
When are you sending the big package to WFD, Prof? I asked a couple times in PMs but no reply.

I will send the ones for the people that contacted me to send them to him ASAP (pasph sleepy916 affect656)

3 MONTHS AGO!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Sat, 26 October 2013, 02:49:22
Some of the people who sent demand letters should really consider contacting the small claims court in his county to file a suit against him. Even if there is a small chance of winning, that's better than your chance of getting anything if you don't take him to court, which is exactly zero.
There isn't a small chance of winning: if he's a no-show at court, as long as the claim isn't obviously bogus the plaintiff will win. Now, extracting the money will be tougher, but there are means to go about that with additional court/sheriff/etc fees.

I'm not a lawyer etc, but I would imagine instigating whatever the small claims equivalent of class action for everyone involved will be more likely to succeed instead of everyone filing their own claims.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: cgbuen on Tue, 29 October 2013, 02:29:29
Just so no one can say I didn't try to make this one last request - Prof, check your PM.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Wed, 30 October 2013, 16:29:04
So TP, what are you missing. Confirmed you have my switches. If you have my plate and PCB too, what's up? I've waited this long for a demand letter, not waiting much longer. Also, since you're not responding anywhere, might as well put here that my address has changed, you need to update it.

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-2190.html#p128944 (http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/cherry-mx-taking-pre-orders-t2760-2190.html#p128944)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: metalliqaz on Thu, 31 October 2013, 00:18:41
You can't sue in small claims court unless you live there, I checked.  There is no recourse.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 31 October 2013, 00:25:55
You can't sue in small claims court unless you live there, I checked.  There is no recourse.

Solution, get someone in state to file claim for you, give them the evidence and right to serve as your legal representative.  Supposedly there are some people who live nearby who could do that.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tjcaustin on Thu, 31 October 2013, 00:26:37
You can't sue in small claims court unless you live there, I checked.  There is no recourse.

Someone mentioned a class action, I would assume this has approached the 5k minimum for that.

You can't sue in small claims court unless you live there, I checked.  There is no recourse.

Solution, get someone in state to file claim for you, give them the evidence and right to serve as your legal representative.  Supposedly there are some people who live nearby who could do that.

Also, this.  It's not unheard of to hire a local atty to represent in court.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 31 October 2013, 19:07:30
You can't sue in small claims court unless you live there, I checked.  There is no recourse.

Solution, get someone in state to file claim for you, give them the evidence and right to serve as your legal representative.  Supposedly there are some people who live nearby who could do that.

Would it need to be a GHer or an attorney that is in the state?  My permanent address is 80 minutes from where he lives, in WI.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Pacifist on Thu, 31 October 2013, 20:28:43
I'm just here to watch the GH drama and eat my popcorn
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Fri, 01 November 2013, 09:24:26
I'm just here to watch the GH drama and eat my popcorn

So do you think it's funny to see your "fellow GHers" being scammed and robbed?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 01 November 2013, 10:52:32
What good would taking him to small claims court do? Is there anything that will actually force him to pay?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Tym on Fri, 01 November 2013, 10:53:38
What good would taking him to small claims court do? Is there anything that will actually force him to pay?
Can you not procure his "assets" ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:13:49
What good would taking him to small claims court do? Is there anything that will actually force him to pay?

If a court enters a judgment against him, it is legally binding and never goes away. They can collect tax refunds, garnish wages, etc. I know from experience, unfortunately.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:16:22
I mean the value of all the hardware plus money paid for services is in the thousands of dollars so does that add fuel for the fire?

Can it be considered 'stolen' property?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nubbinator on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:16:36
What good would taking him to small claims court do? Is there anything that will actually force him to pay?

You can garnish their wages or do a bank levy if you win in small claims.  Both of those are guaranteed means of collecting.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: esoomenona on Fri, 01 November 2013, 11:40:16
Okay. Thanks, guys. I wasn't aware that it could go that far. If you do go about it all, good luck! And sorry everything turned out so ****ty for you all. I could have just as easily been there with you...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: meiosis on Fri, 01 November 2013, 16:18:04
Should just hire ItsBC for maximum dox
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Mon, 04 November 2013, 09:18:41
Good(ish) news. The good news is my switches are on the way. The bad news is I originally paid for assembly and all that but I'm biting the bullet on this one. Now I just have to find stabalizers I guess and find WFD for my plate/PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: KuhnTang on Mon, 04 November 2013, 16:47:48
Good(ish) news. The good news is my switches are on the way. The bad news is I originally paid for assembly and all that but I'm biting the bullet on this one. Now I just have to find stabalizers I guess and find WFD for my plate/PCB.

LOL, my switches have been on the way for a few months now.  He said he would send them right away, haven't heard a peep from him since.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Kabuks on Mon, 04 November 2013, 19:04:25
Good(ish) news. The good news is my switches are on the way. The bad news is I originally paid for assembly and all that but I'm biting the bullet on this one. Now I just have to find stabalizers I guess and find WFD for my plate/PCB.

LOL, my switches have been on the way for a few months now.  He said he would send them right away, haven't heard a peep from him since.

Same ^
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 05 November 2013, 21:23:59
Good(ish) news. The good news is my switches are on the way. The bad news is I originally paid for assembly and all that but I'm biting the bullet on this one. Now I just have to find stabalizers I guess and find WFD for my plate/PCB.

LOL, my switches have been on the way for a few months now.  He said he would send them right away, haven't heard a peep from him since.

Same ^
Always be polite. Always keep receipts. Always cooperate. Yeah, I still lost money (though it was my choice to bail on my assembly), but I didn't lose everything.

http://imgur.com/8FFlPXu (http://imgur.com/8FFlPXu)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: kmiller8 on Sat, 09 November 2013, 14:13:14
One small step for Phantom, one giant leap for people to quit *****ing about one person's mistake.

(http://i.imgur.com/bHntskX.jpg)

My experiences with the 3 players in this Phantom GB.

TheProfosist: Pay Money -> Wait -> Ask for stuff -> Get stuff
WhiteFireDragon: Wait -> Get Nothing
Bavman: Pay Money -> Wait -> Get Nothing
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 09 November 2013, 14:30:27
One small step for Phantom, one giant leap for people to quit *****ing about one person's mistake.

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/bHntskX.jpg)


My experiences with the 3 players in this Phantom GB.

TheProfosist: Pay Money -> Wait -> Ask for stuff -> Get stuff
WhiteFireDragon: Wait -> Get Nothing
Bavman: Pay Money -> Wait -> Get Nothing

Pls no drama

pls

you will have beautiful phantom soon
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Sat, 09 November 2013, 15:39:25
TheProfosist: Pay Money -> Wait -> Ask for stuff -> Get stuff

Can you please ask him my stuff so i can get it?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: cgbuen on Sat, 09 November 2013, 15:44:13
After over 9 months, I too just received my parts today - MX Whites.

(http://i.imgur.com/el0G5aJl.jpg)

All things aside from how you want to complain about how this whole GB has been handled, here's a list of tips if you want to get your stuff:

- PM him. He's mentioned that he doesn't even read this thread anymore, so posting here doesn't really do anything except provide you an outlet to rant. Note that his response time is not really that quick, but it is existent.
- Be polite like nebo said. (Remember, this is a list is for coming to an agreement with him to get your stuff, not anything else.)
- If you've done all this stuff and still don't get any PM responses, don't be afraid to send a demand letter. For a template of a demand letter, and a few further details on what to do, PM me.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Sat, 09 November 2013, 15:56:00
I've wrote many pm and email and still no answers
I'm not american so a demand letter is not an option
So he has the right to scam me?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: AKIMbO on Sat, 09 November 2013, 16:09:17
I received my switches from this group buy today.  I had to pay shipping twice, but I'm completely fine with that.  I'm just happy to be done with this GB.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Sun, 10 November 2013, 11:17:37
congrats to those who now haz switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Sun, 10 November 2013, 22:01:47
Got my switches today (maybe yesterday, I was out). 100 whites. Took a while, but here in the end. Still before my PCB so it's not like it was the bottleneck.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Mon, 11 November 2013, 01:12:29
where are mine? lol wtf
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: mashby on Mon, 11 November 2013, 09:11:48
I'm thrilled that people are getting their stuff, albeit very slowly. It would appear that TheProfosist is attempting to make good on at least the parts of this group buy. This is of course encouraging, but also frustrating given the lack of public communication.

I wish he would state publicly what his goals are and what steps he's taking to make good on this group buy. Unfortunately, it appears that he prefers one-on-one PMs. So if you're still waiting on parts, it seems like the best best is to contact him directly via PM.

As they say, "actions speak stronger than words." My hope is that his actions continue.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: aggiejy on Tue, 12 November 2013, 22:48:27
As they say, "actions speak stronger than words." My hope is that his actions continue.
+1
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jabar on Wed, 13 November 2013, 00:05:09
that TheProfosist is attempting to make good
only when solder service fees are fully refunded would any effort of his be "attempting to make good"
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: oluf on Thu, 14 November 2013, 16:30:49
Order received in full.. Thank you Prof.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Paranoid on Fri, 15 November 2013, 00:45:48
has anyone received stabilizers yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 00:54:31

When are you sending the big package to WFD, Prof? I asked a couple times in PMs but no reply.

I will send the ones for the people that contacted me to send them to him ASAP (pasph sleepy916 affect656)


Pmed you more than a few times Prof, I'm glad others are getting their things but what about this "ASAP" business?  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: kmiller8 on Fri, 15 November 2013, 07:09:12
has anyone received stabilizers yet?

I think wfd is dealing with stabilizers.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Invoicing)
Post by: Glod on Tue, 31 December 2013, 02:30:04
Show Image
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v519/TheProfosist/GeekHack/GH-sub-mine-NEW/IMG_3200.jpg~original)



note: this is was taken out of focus on purpose

remember this? i do
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nebo on Tue, 31 December 2013, 12:14:59
has anyone received stabilizers yet?

I think wfd is dealing with stabilizers.
I'm not even sure anymore. With all the spreadsheets WFD had my plate and PCB but never really responded to me so I'm not sure if they're with TP or WFD.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: pasph on Wed, 19 February 2014, 03:56:58
I'm happy to say that
TheProfosist has shipped to me my stuff and now he don't owes me anything more

I second this:

My experiences with the 3 players in this Phantom GB.

TheProfosist: Pay Money -> Wait -> Ask for stuff -> Get stuff
WhiteFireDragon: Wait -> Get Nothing
Bavman: Pay Money -> Wait -> Get Nothing
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Glod on Fri, 21 February 2014, 16:11:59
arrived today
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3689/12683894373_ee5970c0b0.jpg) (http://flic.kr/p/kjQgU2)

although i squared away with Prof, its not up to me to say hes in the clear, i'm just one person in this mix.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: xSpartanCx on Sun, 02 March 2014, 21:33:17
Can anybody help me dim the brightness of the LEDs? I've tried changing the value in tmk keyboard firmware, but no matter what value they stay the same. Also, the locking caps lock doesn't work with the firmware for me, either.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Mon, 03 March 2014, 08:53:57
I'm happy to say that
TheProfosist has shipped to me my stuff and now he don't owes me anything more

I second this:

My experiences with the 3 players in this Phantom GB.

TheProfosist: Pay Money -> Wait -> Ask for stuff -> Get stuff
WhiteFireDragon: Wait -> Get Nothing
Bavman: Pay Money -> Wait -> Get Nothing

WFD royally ****ed up.  Geekhack is losing reputable members due to GB's.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Donbabbeo on Mon, 03 March 2014, 13:25:21
I'm happy to say that
TheProfosist has shipped to me my stuff and now he don't owes me anything more

I second this:

My experiences with the 3 players in this Phantom GB.

TheProfosist: Pay Money -> Wait -> Ask for stuff -> Get stuff
WhiteFireDragon: Wait -> Get Nothing
Bavman: Pay Money -> Wait -> Get Nothing

WFD royally ****ed up.  Geekhack is losing reputable members due to GB's.

FYI:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54206.0
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Wed, 05 March 2014, 07:59:25
I'm happy to say that
TheProfosist has shipped to me my stuff and now he don't owes me anything more

I second this:

My experiences with the 3 players in this Phantom GB.

TheProfosist: Pay Money -> Wait -> Ask for stuff -> Get stuff
WhiteFireDragon: Wait -> Get Nothing
Bavman: Pay Money -> Wait -> Get Nothing

WFD royally ****ed up.  Geekhack is losing reputable members due to GB's.

FYI:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54206.0

I'm aware, he's been MIA for like 2-3 months, like I said, royally ****ed up.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Mon, 04 August 2014, 05:26:01
PROF!

where are all my Keyboards and all my caps? When do you plan of shipping me these things and when can I get my stuff? It has been almost 12 month now !!!

 :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Mon, 04 August 2014, 05:35:51
Anyone can help me on this ?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Sun, 31 August 2014, 15:51:03
Hello ? Anyone can help here?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nubbinator on Sun, 31 August 2014, 16:31:12
I guess that's one promise that went out the window. How many people still don't have their stuff?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: tgujay on Tue, 02 September 2014, 08:34:12
Hello ? Anyone can help here?

Dude your money and anything else is long gone.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Mon, 20 October 2014, 15:50:26
The Prof still logs in here. I don't think he is planning on paying anyone else back. I'm still waiting on my keyboard. It's only been over a year...
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 20 October 2014, 15:51:23
The Prof still logs in here. I don't think he is planning on paying anyone else back. I'm still waiting on my keyboard. It's only been over a year...

Honestly that's worse than those who just disappear completely. He comes here, reads stuff that is going on etc. What a shame.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Mon, 20 October 2014, 17:30:14
The Prof still logs in here. I don't think he is planning on paying anyone else back. I'm still waiting on my keyboard. It's only been over a year...

Honestly that's worse than those who just disappear completely. He comes here, reads stuff that is going on etc. What a shame.

At what point does he get banned? I don't think he is trying to make good on what he owes anymore.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: byker on Mon, 20 October 2014, 19:33:43
The Prof still logs in here. I don't think he is planning on paying anyone else back. I'm still waiting on my keyboard. It's only been over a year...

Honestly that's worse than those who just disappear completely. He comes here, reads stuff that is going on etc. What a shame.

Yeah, he is online right now...  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:05:10
Alright guys, I have a not-so-brief update to post here.

I live a little over an hour from TheProfosist.  A few months ago I contacted him, asking if there was anything I could do to help him move this along.  He was interested in handing all of the parts of this GB over and letting me handle the shipping/distribution of these parts, so that's the route we took.

Today I met up with TheProfosist and collected all material components of this buy, and caught up to speed on the logistics since I hadn't even joined GH when this buy started.  My understanding is that money was collected for labor and parts, but not shipping.  A lot of the components purchased ended up costing more than planned, so the money is all gone (including assembly money).  You can choose to believe this or not, but that's really not the point. 
The point is that there is no money left in this buy.  As such, I unfortunately need to ask for money in order to send these things out to their respective owners.  :-/

I'm still awaiting the master list of participants, components, and the like.  For now, I simply have possession of the parts, as shown below.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/326/20320194932_84488cfb10_k.jpg)
Phantom GB (https://flic.kr/p/wXCj1u) by HoffmanMyster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99522542@N03/), on Flickr

As soon as I get more information on which pieces go to which geekhacker, I can begin the process of tracking people down and working out payment/shipping.  Until that time, I wanted to alert everyone to the current status and get the ball rolling, so to speak.  I know that many involved in this GB are probably not very active anymore, so hopefully I can reach everyone in a timely manner.  If you remember what you paid for or had mailed to TheProfosist, please feel free to post here or PM me that information (include "Phantom GB" in the subject please!).  If not, I will PM everyone once I have that information.

Regarding the timeline: I wasn't sure when I would receive these parts and be able to start working on this, so please bear with me as I am fairly busy in life right now.  I will do my best to get this out in a timely manner, but I do have prior commitments that may take priority.  I hope you understand.  Regardless, I will stay in contact with everyone and work to resolve this ordeal as swiftly as possible (I want this out of my kitchen sooner than later :P ).   :thumb:

If anyone has any questions for me, please feel free to address them here in the thread or via PM.

As a final note, I ask that we not dwell on the past issues of this group buy, and instead look forward to making some progress.   :-*

Alright, let's get this show on the road!
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:30:14
I thought there would be more parts left.

Glad to see all wasn't completely lost.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:32:23
I thought there would be more parts left.

Glad to see all wasn't completely lost.

I too was surprised to see how much there was.  The hardest part will be sorting out who gets what and keeping all that straight.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: sleepy916 on Wed, 05 August 2015, 22:32:48
I've contacted Prof a few times in the past year or so and every time he says he is going to ship my QFR. Then after that just silence. I thought it was long gone now but who knows if that one is mine or not.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: byker on Wed, 05 August 2015, 22:45:15
Good guy hoff! Thanks for helping take over a messy situation. We appreciate you for what you do on here!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 05 August 2015, 23:41:33
Holy crap this is an old GB.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: blighty on Thu, 06 August 2015, 00:11:05
I think i'm owed some plate-mounted stabs and some LEDs, but I'm good on both.  I found another source years ago.  Assuming my parts actually exist, feel free to sell/use them for whatever.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: calmfries on Thu, 06 August 2015, 04:07:19
Meanwhile the prof just joined the TGR-Jane gb, Oh well..
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: meow a cat on Thu, 06 August 2015, 12:11:29
I don't know if this would help anyone or not, but I'd be willing to pick up one Phantom assembly for the price of shipping, and maybe a pocket pack of solder (I don't think I have enough solder left for an entire board after doing two builds), if someone is unable to do an assembly themselves but has all of the parts.

This is really cool of you Hoff, glad to see some people finally seeing their boards and parts after all this time!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: nubbinator on Thu, 06 August 2015, 12:43:00
And I can do some soldering for the cost of shipping too.  If you want to buy me a beer, that would be awesome, but nothing is expected other than shipping being covered.  It might actually motivate me to finally do some soldering of my own I've been putting.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 06 August 2015, 14:24:47
I don't know if this would help anyone or not, but I'd be willing to pick up one Phantom assembly for the price of shipping, and maybe a pocket pack of solder (I don't think I have enough solder left for an entire board after doing two builds), if someone is unable to do an assembly themselves but has all of the parts.

This is really cool of you Hoff, glad to see some people finally seeing their boards and parts after all this time!  :thumb:

And I can do some soldering for the cost of shipping too.  If you want to buy me a beer, that would be awesome, but nothing is expected other than shipping being covered.  It might actually motivate me to finally do some soldering of my own I've been putting.

Just as a note, there are not PCBs or plates in my possession, or that TheProf ever had.  Both of those aspects fell apart pretty hard during the buy.  So if people already have PCBs ready to go, you can assemble just fine, but if you were counting on the PCB from this buy arriving I'm not sure what to do.  :-/
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 10 August 2015, 10:38:59
I would think that, as a bare minimum, he should get a board ban?

Of course you would have to have a formal way for complaints to be logged.....

If they ban him then any hope of anyone getting the remainder of their stuff is essentially lost.

So, since HoffmanMyster has the remaining items in his possession now, shouldn't the mods proceed with a ban at this point? It's not like anyone needs to communicate with him anymore.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 10 August 2015, 10:55:34
I would think that, as a bare minimum, he should get a board ban?

Of course you would have to have a formal way for complaints to be logged.....

If they ban him then any hope of anyone getting the remainder of their stuff is essentially lost.

So, since HoffmanMyster has the remaining items in his possession now, shouldn't the mods proceed with a ban at this point? It's not like anyone needs to communicate with him anymore.

Sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: digi on Mon, 10 August 2015, 11:47:36
So, since HoffmanMyster has the remaining items in his possession now, shouldn't the mods proceed with a ban at this point? It's not like anyone needs to communicate with him anymore.

+1
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Thu, 20 August 2015, 12:34:39
Just read that HoffmanMyster is in charge now :D That makes me feel convient that I might get all the stuff I ordered years ago for several people. I pm'ed you Hoffman :) Maybe you can help.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Rodgaroon on Thu, 27 August 2015, 13:37:41
I think i'm owed some plate-mounted stabs and some LEDs, but I'm good on both.  I found another source years ago.  Assuming my parts actually exist, feel free to sell/use them for whatever.

You sir, get a slow clap.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: BiNiaRiS on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:12:23
Was anyone in this group buy screwed out of any Phantom hardware (outside of switches)?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Phirr on Wed, 02 September 2015, 15:50:10
I'm glad I started my Phantom build after all of this went down.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Wed, 09 September 2015, 05:40:31
Any news?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 09 September 2015, 09:10:07
Any news?

I'm still closing out previous projects; this will be the next project to tackle.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Wed, 09 September 2015, 09:14:06
Can't wait for it :D sooooo excited :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Wed, 23 September 2015, 09:15:59
What about now?

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Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Wildcard on Wed, 23 September 2015, 09:23:39
Any news?

I'm still closing out previous projects; this will be the next project to tackle.  :thumb:

Wow, I didn't realize this was still ongoing? Hoff if you run into problems where you're missing any hardware let me know and I'll see if I can help out. I ordered way too much stuff from this GB so I have tons of extras. But I believe I also ended up with a few spare PCBs and miscellaneous parts (diodes, led spacers, etc..) after I sent everything out. It was a pretty expensive undertaking with the problems with shipping costs, travel to pick up the boards, etc.. It's been a long time since I've even thought about the phantom GB but I'd be fine with helping.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: asura on Wed, 30 September 2015, 09:58:54
Was anyone in this group buy screwed out of any Phantom hardware (outside of switches)?

Ordered PCB + plate only.  Plate never materialised.  :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Tue, 13 October 2015, 14:38:30
Any news?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 13 October 2015, 15:16:05
Any news?

I have been slow to make progress on this, and I'm sorry for that.  :(  My other projects are coming to a close in the near future, and I will then pursue this full-time.  I'm really sorry for the delays on my end.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Sat, 21 November 2015, 10:40:01
It has been another month now. How is it going?
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 23 November 2015, 15:10:48
It has been another month now. How is it going?

To be honest, not as well as I had hoped.  I wanted to make progress this past weekend, but had a very difficult time navigating my way through the Excel documents.  I don't know if that's my fault or not.

I was hoping to be able to PM/email people and verify that I still have what they ordered, but had difficulty determining whose order was already shipped, or if any were.  It looks like, moving forward, I will need to cross-reference a few documents to determine where we're at in the process.  It will be slow moving, but any movement will be better than none.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Mon, 23 November 2015, 16:16:46
I can help you out if you want. I have lots of spare time right now.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 25 December 2015, 05:19:03
It has been another month now. How is it going?

To be honest, not as well as I had hoped.  I wanted to make progress this past weekend, but had a very difficult time navigating my way through the Excel documents.  I don't know if that's my fault or not.

I was hoping to be able to PM/email people and verify that I still have what they ordered, but had difficulty determining whose order was already shipped, or if any were.  It looks like, moving forward, I will need to cross-reference a few documents to determine where we're at in the process.  It will be slow moving, but any movement will be better than none.

I'm pretty handy with excel, let me know if I can help out in interpreting them files.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 25 December 2015, 09:03:22
It has been another month now. How is it going?

To be honest, not as well as I had hoped.  I wanted to make progress this past weekend, but had a very difficult time navigating my way through the Excel documents.  I don't know if that's my fault or not.

I was hoping to be able to PM/email people and verify that I still have what they ordered, but had difficulty determining whose order was already shipped, or if any were.  It looks like, moving forward, I will need to cross-reference a few documents to determine where we're at in the process.  It will be slow moving, but any movement will be better than none.

I'm pretty handy with excel, let me know if I can help out in interpreting them files.

Thanks for the offer.  I'm pretty handy with Excel myself as well, I just got frustrated with an inconsistency and decided to push it off to a day that I have more time to commit to it.  I've since had it clarified by theprof and will be able to make progress.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: MOZ on Sun, 27 December 2015, 08:30:19
Nice :thumbsup:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Ictogan on Wed, 30 December 2015, 17:34:09
****, I just bought a plate, case, caps and pcb from TheProfosist on the LinusTechTips forum, then discovered this. I hope it goes well. If not, it`s $240 down the drain.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Steezus on Wed, 30 December 2015, 19:08:52
****, I just bought a plate, case, caps and pcb from TheProfosist on the LinusTechTips forum, then discovered this. I hope it goes well. If not, it`s $240 down the drain.

I see he is very active on those forums, perhaps others should be warned over there.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Ictogan on Wed, 30 December 2015, 20:35:56
****, I just bought a plate, case, caps and pcb from TheProfosist on the LinusTechTips forum, then discovered this. I hope it goes well. If not, it`s $240 down the drain.

I see he is very active on those forums, perhaps others should be warned over there.
I talked a bit to him and I`m fairly confident I will get the stuff I bought now. If I don`t get it, I will post it on here.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Amr0d on Wed, 30 December 2015, 21:16:28
I once contacted him on LinusTechTips as well about this GB and he promised me my stuff too and now I am still here waiting. Better pull your money back if you have used paypal.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Repairing)
Post by: Ictogan on Fri, 22 January 2016, 09:13:36
I once contacted him on LinusTechTips as well about this GB and he promised me my stuff too and now I am still here waiting. Better pull your money back if you have used paypal.
I have just picked up the parts I bought from him from customs and everything arived in flawless condition  :).
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/04)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Thu, 04 February 2016, 21:34:17
Hello everyone, I owe you guys an update.  I apologize for the long delay in tending to this, but I know that putting this group buy to rest will be a positive for all of us.  :thumb:



I just sent out emails to the following users:

I will tend to any responses from the above users over the weekend.



During additional free time, I will send PMs to the following users:



Unfortunately, I do not have ANY of the requisite items to satisfy orders for, and therefore WILL NOT be, PMing the following users:

If your name is in the above list and you believe it should not be, or you have ANY questions at all, please send me a PM of the format "[Phantom GB] *Username*", where *Username* is replaced with your username. 
Items NOT on hand include, but are not limited to:



There is one user that I am unsure of their username, due to the Username field being the same as the user in the cell above.  If your name has not been mentioned in this post and you believe it should be, please PM me.  The user in question supplied an address and contact information, so I will be sending an email when I get to that position in the list if I haven't heard from them.



Lastly, there are three items not attributed to anyone's order:

If you know that you ordered any of these, or purchased them and had them sent to theprofosist, please PM me to let me know.



If there are any questions at all during this process, do not hesitate to ask.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/04)
Post by: Amr0d on Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:42:16
That sounds awesome, I sent you a PM right away :D
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/04)
Post by: FabsSpeed on Mon, 08 February 2016, 08:46:21
Hello everybody...

I am very happy and thankfull to HoffmanMyster that got all the parts from the Prof. Now my question is, who would be able to assebmle my parts? My parts are all with HoffmanMyster and hope there is someone who could proifessional assmble and soldier my board :)

Thanks you
FabsSpeed
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/08)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 February 2016, 21:15:46
UPDATE 2016/02/08



I have packaged the orders for and sent shipping quotes to the following users:



I am awaiting a response via PM from the following users:



I still need to send PMs to the following users:
I apologize for not sending PMs to the above users yet; it is much easier and less stressful for me to "complete" the prior orders before sending additional PMs to the remaining users.  I will send these PMs out as soon as I have an evening in which I am not busy packing/shipping.  :thumb:



All of the following items have been claimed by their rightful owner, and are therefore no longer in "limbo":



If your name is *not* mentioned in this message, it is because you have either opted to not receive your order, or as mentioned a few posts above I do not have the items you ordered.

Thank you once again to everyone for your continued patience as I work through this.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/08)
Post by: jdcarpe on Mon, 08 February 2016, 22:47:51
I wonder if you will get a response from affect656. He wrote me a while back to inquire about the GH60 order I was to hold for him (obviously hasn't even shipped yet), but I think he may be still busy with military life, or the aftermath of it. :)

As for bavman, after that Phantom debacle, I doubt you would get a response there either.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/08)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 08 February 2016, 23:31:40
I wonder if you will get a response from affect656. He wrote me a while back to inquire about the GH60 order I was to hold for him (obviously hasn't even shipped yet), but I think he may be still busy with military life, or the aftermath of it. :)

Good to know.  :)  I will hold his for longer (not sure what sort of time I'm going to hold the others for anyway though :confused: ).

As for bavman, after that Phantom debacle, I doubt you would get a response there either.

I figured as much, but I'm giving everyone a fair chance to claim their stuff.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/09)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:06:31
UPDATE 2016/02/09



I have SHIPPED the orders for the following users:
From my end, I am considering these orders COMPLETE.



The orders for the following users are still packaged, shipping quote sent, and awaiting further response:



The following user has paid for shipping and the order will be shipped tomorrow:



PMs were sent today to the following users asking for confirmation of order and approval to package and quote shipping costs:



I am still awaiting a response from the first round of PMs from the following users:
I will continue to include these users in future updates until I hear from them or sufficient time has passed to "abandon" the orders.  I'm doing this so it is easy to keep track of the current status of users' orders.



I made a mistake in previous updates and am updating that the order for the following user is NOT in my possession, and I am therefore unable to complete the order:



If you don't see your name in this update and believe you should, please let me know.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/09)
Post by: affect656 on Wed, 10 February 2016, 20:18:29
I'm sort of around, jdcarpe can have my stuff though.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/09)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 10 February 2016, 20:29:26
I'm sort of around, jdcarpe can have my stuff though.

I'm more than happy to send it wherever you like.  If that wish is JD, then so shall it be.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/09)
Post by: sleepy916 on Fri, 12 February 2016, 19:20:11
I finally after like 2 years got my QFR back. Thank you Hoff!

Hopefully once this gets settled The Prof gets banned for all the money he took from the services he never provided.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/09)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 16 February 2016, 20:50:19
I finally after like 2 years got my QFR back. Thank you Hoff!

Hopefully once this gets settled The Prof gets banned for all the money he took from the services he never provided.

I'm glad you finally got your parts after all these years.  I'm looking forward to laying this one to rest, so to speak.  :thumb:


As a general update, I did receive and read the last wave of PMs I got (and replied where applicable).  Progress on this particular project has been slow-ish the last few days, but I'm hoping to make a big dent tomorrow evening.  I haven't forgotten about you!  :) 

Next step is to get shipping quotes to those that responded asking for them, and to then re-group and tabulate where we're (I say 'we', but it's really just me) at in terms of PMs unreplied and all that.  This is what I'll be working on tomorrow.  After that point, it will largely be a waiting game to see when people respond to PMs - I'll update a bit more sparsely at that time, as my "duties" will be on a reactionary basis as opposed to...actionary...?

Thanks for sticking with this for so long, everyone.
Title: Re: [GB] Phantom Parts and Assembly Services (Update Posted 2016/02/09)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 23 July 2018, 19:39:22
UPDATE 2018/07/23

Hey everyone.  I've just packed up a few shipments, and am reaching a point of wrapping this project up.  Unfortunately, many users have still not responded to my PMs, so I sent one final reminder PM tonight.  These users will have one month to respond, after which point I will consider the orders abandoned - I simply don't have the space and bandwidth to continue to babysit this.  Summary below. 



I have SHIPPED the orders for the following users:
From my end, I am considering this order COMPLETE.



The orders for the following users are packaged, shipping quote sent, and awaiting payment / further response:



I am still awaiting a response from the following users (these orders will be considered abandoned after one more month of non-response):



Thanks for sticking with this through the many delays and long stretches of silence.  Speaking for my involvement, I do apologize for any delays that I have imparted in the process of salvaging this buy.  I hope that some closure and resolution is better than none for all involved.