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Keyboards / Re: How hard do you all type?
« Last post by Rhienfo on Fri, 24 May 2024, 20:53:12 »
I reluctantly used a set when I shared a WFH office with my wife, on a full size gamer board with Outemu black (still have it under the shelves... turn off the rainbow LEDs and those boards just look like low-profile Filcos), but once I had my own space, it was off with the rings, then back to my 70% with blues, then on to heavy clickies.  Right this moment, I'm on a Model M, but my two daily drivers of late have Box Jade and Box Navy.

I just have a hhkb as an office/quiet board, it's not really that quiet but it sounds like rubber domes and blends in really well with the other rubber domes so it's fine to use in a quiet setting unless I'm jamming on the keys really hard.
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Interest Checks / [IC] DESØLATION • Polymount 60% keyboard
« Last post by Anorexious on Fri, 24 May 2024, 19:37:25 »



DESØLATION
Polymount 60% keyboard





0. Status
The Prototype has been made, currently being tested.





1. Intro
Hello everyone! Meet Desølation, a Polymount 60% keyboard with adjustable typing feel and sound options through its multiple mounting system options. With multiple mounting systems, Desølation offers versatility, allowing users to tailor their typing feel and sound characteristics to their preferences. Whether you prefer a stiffer typing experience with crisp sound or a softer, more isolated typing feel, Desølation has you covered.

Interest check is now open.









2. Index

0. STATUS
1. INTRO
2. INDEX
3. DESIGN
4. SPECIFICATIONS
5. FEATURES
6. CONSTRUCTIONS
7. PROTOTYPE
8. LAYOUT
9. PRICING
10. MEDIA
11. KEEP IN LOOP






3. Design









4. Specifications

Specifications:
- 60% layout, ISO support, and split backspace (for solder option)
- Available in HHKB, WKL, and ANSI options
- Polymount including silicone jacket gasket, oring gasket, oring leaf, and bottom mount.
- 7.5° typing angle
- 23.35mm effective keyboard height
- Aluminum 6063 or Polycarbonate with stainless steel weight
- 1.5mm Aluminium, Polycarbonate, POM, Carbon Fiber, FR4 (1.6mm) plate
- In-house design PCB desolation60 1.6mm thickness solder or hotswap - configurable with QMK/VIA


Parts included with the kit:
- Keyboard case: (Top case, Bottom case, Weight)
- Selection plate (Aluminium, Polycarbonate, POM, Carbon Fiber, FR4)
- 1.6mm Hotswap/Solder PCB; layout information will be shared later
- Daughterboard JST Cable
- 1x O-ring (50a) for friction mount, 5x O-ring for leaf mount, 5x silicone jacket, 5x bottom mount spacer
- 4x Custom-designed rubber feet
- Hand-carry keyboard bag
- Other accessories






5. Features

Multi mounting system

Silicone jacket gasket mount


Bottom mount


Friction Oring mount


Oring leaf mount


Magnetic lock system

The magnetic lock facilitates easy assembly and disassembly, eliminating the need for screws.







5. Constructions










6. Prototype











7. Layout

Available in HHKB, WKL, and ANSI blocker
PCB Layout will coming later








8. Pricing

TBA







9. Media
Quick build video



We will be working with content creators to give a preview of Desolation, including build streams, typing tests, and overall impressions. A list of enthusiasts and influencers will be shared at a later time.







10. Keep in loop


Any feedback and questions are welcomed!
Interest check is still open to get a better insight on how much interest in this project and your region
Your inputs will be very valuable to determine price and vendor partners







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Off Topic / Re: This year may be biblical
« Last post by Pyre on Fri, 24 May 2024, 19:02:07 »
In the event of, let's call it scarcity, a CITY would tear itself apart. The amount and rate of destruction would rise exponentially relative to population size.

Indeed - its fascinating how interconnected a city is, and how much its denizens don't realise the effort it takes to get various things on the store shelves - and how fragile that all is.

 We saw in here in Sydney during COVID with people fighting over toilet paper of all things :D
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Off Topic / Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Last post by Pyre on Fri, 24 May 2024, 18:54:53 »
My work implementing MFA for pretty much every system we use. We recently popped in major upgrade for an old system and enabled SSO with our key IM system used by the entire business and what ends happening?

We're forced to enable a separate MFA to sign in.... such a waste of time. It's also getting to a point where they are asking for biometrics to be enabled on a phone before it even allows that MFA app to be used - its like 4x layers of "identity security" just so they can push the risk of stuff going wrong back on the individual worker.

Good lord.
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Keyboards / Re: How hard do you all type?
« Last post by wjrii on Fri, 24 May 2024, 18:48:56 »
Partially off-topic, but when I started in the hobby O-rings were all the rage for people who like MX-style switches, but I seldom hear about them these days.
O-rings worked only with OEM-profile keycaps with the right stem length and internal struts. Most enthusiasts (and some brands) use Cherry profile, and for those keycaps, the O-rings were too thick. Very thin O-rings (for dental braces) were used for a while, but those have been superseded by "silencing clips" (QMX clips, Zealencios) which dampen also the up-stroke. There have also been more types of silent switches since then that don't need external modding and which work with any keycaps.

But yes, I think those have fallen out of popularity because they soften the feel. Hard bottom out seems to be more popular now.
There have also been developments in the internal construction of keyboards: flex-cuts in plate and PCB, mounting styles that suspend the PCB and plate in damping material, and filling internal spaces with sound-damping foam and silicone pads. Those reduce reverberations in the case and thus noise without affecting key feel as much.
These features started in customs but you can find even mass-produced keyboards with them now.

I wouldn't say that hard bottom outs are more popular in the hobby (in fact the direction is towards softer plates like polycarbonate and mounting styles that are less harsh like the various gasket mounts, I think for a lot of people, it was the mushiness that came from using the o-rings that made it undesirable, kinda like why people don't like regular silent switches.

I still think there is a market for silents (that's why there was still innovation in those haimu silents which changed the stem to make it not as mushy) but the hobby moved in general away from silencing things and making things "thocky" or whatever kinda dumb term people use to describe sound now.

Also if you want silencing, I think a lot of people move towards topre now, with the type s and external aftermarket silencing options.

I reluctantly used a set when I shared a WFH office with my wife, on a full size gamer board with Outemu black (still have it under the shelves... turn off the rainbow LEDs and those boards just look like low-profile Filcos), but once I had my own space, it was off with the rings, then back to my 70% with blues, then on to heavy clickies.  Right this moment, I'm on a Model M, but my two daily drivers of late have Box Jade and Box Navy.
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Keyboards / Re: How hard do you all type?
« Last post by Pyre on Fri, 24 May 2024, 18:47:15 »
I admire those who can touch type - I'm a very heavy typer, and I hammer those keys especially when I'm working - I think subconsciously I feel like the key won't register until I feel it bottom out.

I wonder if using browns would help provide that feedback to stop for someone who's trying to push more into touch typing? :)

Isn't touch typing just not looking at the keyboard while typing, I get what you mean though. Something like topre or those high bump tactiles like holy pandas where there is no travel after the tactility wouldn't help, but browns or clears could, cause there is a bit of travel after the switch and you'll know when to lift up after the tactile event.

For me I mainly use linears and I just commit to bottoming out, I just am typing a lot lighter than I was before.

Oh - indeed it is. For some reason I always thought touch typing was where you gently tapped the keys without bottoming out.

What do you call it then when you don't need to look, hammer the keys, and don't rest your hands on the home row? That'd be me.


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Keyboards / Re: What Keyboard Are You Using Now?
« Last post by wjrii on Fri, 24 May 2024, 18:42:19 »
IBM 1392595, Model M "Display Station" terminal keyboard, just a 1998 one from the Scotland factory, with a non-destructive internal Soarer Converter and a few replacement keytops. Go Gators.

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Keyboards / Re: keys ain't work
« Last post by wjrii on Fri, 24 May 2024, 18:32:56 »
If you have the budget, and I'm sensitive to the fact that not everyone would, I might recommend letting this one go.  That feels like a lot to be wrong with a 3-pin Outemu hotswap low-profile-case gamer board.  You could get a comparable replacement for about $30, and a hot swap Keychron C3 Pro is out there for under $50.
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Off Topic / Re: What are you listening to right now? [2.0]
« Last post by fohat.digs on Fri, 24 May 2024, 18:22:43 »
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geekhack Media / Re: Post your clacks!
« Last post by LightningXI on Fri, 24 May 2024, 15:42:24 »
Finally adding my own cap to this thread. Really cool that I can look back at the history of this specific piece of resin. We miss you even if we never knew you, Mr.ClickClack.

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Best version of Candy Corn I think. Looks amazing. Nice get!
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