[IC] Evolv | A four year journey complete

[FireLock]

Hotswap would indeed be an interesting option. Would most likely buy both. But only if both were ISO ofc. #rip#wallet

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[nuno99costa]

I don't know if this has been answered yet, but do you have a estimate/range for pricing after these new changes? I initial didn't really consider this board do to it's price estimate, but if the changes managed to significantly change the cost it might be accessible to me and other people who we're initial turned of by the estimated price.

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[NathanAlphaMan]

I don't know if this has been answered yet, but do you have a estimate/range for pricing after these new changes? I initial didn't really consider this board do to it's price estimate, but if the changes managed to significantly change the cost it might be accessible to me and other people who we're initial turned of by the estimated price.

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It will be cheaper compared to the first iteration, but I don't have anything that I'm ready (or prepared) to share at the moment.

[Luciqueii]

This is a crazy keyboard, I am in for sure. Thank you for making this happen (:

[dlavelle94]

This is a thing of beauty, I am 1000% in.

[Cobalt]

Millmax sockets cost maybe $15-30 depending on what model you get. It adds maybe 15 more min to the soldering process. I much prefer having stepped caps and all the other layout options all on 1 pcb rather than driving up the price and QC time to buy separate fixed hotswap pcbs. I understand the convenience of hotswap and it has it's benefits, but soldering is not hard guys. Get millmax sockets if you want hotswap.

Would you be kind enough to show me where I can buy mill max sockets for $15-30 for a tkl? I would love to have lots of layout options as well but I find myself switching switches (heh) more often than layouts.

[ab042896]

Millmax sockets cost maybe $15-30 depending on what model you get. It adds maybe 15 more min to the soldering process. I much prefer having stepped caps and all the other layout options all on 1 pcb rather than driving up the price and QC time to buy separate fixed hotswap pcbs. I understand the convenience of hotswap and it has it's benefits, but soldering is not hard guys. Get millmax sockets if you want hotswap.

Would you be kind enough to show me where I can buy mill max sockets for $15-30 for a tkl? I would love to have lots of layout options as well but I find myself switching switches (heh) more often than layouts.

Depending where your from: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0%20
If you get 2 per switch and add some extras for multiple layout compatibility, so about 200 sockets, it'll be almost $30 for a TKL.

[ppnp253]

Millmax sockets cost maybe $15-30 depending on what model you get. It adds maybe 15 more min to the soldering process. I much prefer having stepped caps and all the other layout options all on 1 pcb rather than driving up the price and QC time to buy separate fixed hotswap pcbs. I understand the convenience of hotswap and it has it's benefits, but soldering is not hard guys. Get millmax sockets if you want hotswap.

Would you be kind enough to show me where I can buy mill max sockets for $15-30 for a tkl? I would love to have lots of layout options as well but I find myself switching switches (heh) more often than layouts.

Depending where your from: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0%20
If you get 2 per switch and add some extras for multiple layout compatibility, so about 200 sockets, it'll be almost $30 for a TKL.

^ Yup.
If you're in NA, u/tonsoffun49 does occasional gb's for millmax sockets. https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/fzjwkb/gb_millmax_sockets_0305_7305_24_pin_dip_socket/

[Cobalt]

Depending where your from: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0%20
If you get 2 per switch and add some extras for multiple layout compatibility, so about 200 sockets, it'll be almost $30 for a TKL.
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The only caveat is that shipping to where I live would cost another 20$(Im form eastern Europe). Moreover Id have to buy a decent soldering station ( + solder) or pay someone to do it. With all these added costs Id rather buy another pcb. The soldering station might be a good investment in general but I dont plan on making/buying any keyboards for a long while after this one.

[TibtibThePrincess]

Depending where your from: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0%20
If you get 2 per switch and add some extras for multiple layout compatibility, so about 200 sockets, it'll be almost $30 for a TKL.

The only caveat is that shipping to where I live would cost another 20$(Im form eastern Europe). Moreover Id have to buy a decent soldering station ( + solder) or pay someone to do it. With all these added costs Id rather buy another pcb. The soldering station might be a good investment in general but I dont plan on making/buying any keyboards for a long while after this one.

If you are in Europe you can order them through https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/mill-max-7305-hotswap-receptacles-40-pack-for-20-switches_2097/ right now so the total price should be lower if you order it there.

[Cobalt]

If you are in Europe you can order them through https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/mill-max-7305-hotswap-receptacles-40-pack-for-20-switches_2097/ right now so the total price should be lower if you order it there.

It's only ~5 euro cheaper but if I'll ever buy something from them I'll consider getting those sockets as well. Thanks!

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[GMK83]

I’m really looking forward to this board’s release.  It’s been great to see the evolution of the Evolv thus far!

[TibtibThePrincess]

Any plans for artisan knobs like the Rama knob for the Satisfaction 75?

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[Vidhur100]

Is there an estimate for when the GB is?

[Wamuu]

I'd still like to see even more organic design. I still would like to see maybe branching that also goes laterally instead of just straight down the middle from the initial branch.

[perry4761]

Is the resin version happening? If so, will it be happening at the same time as the metal one or after? Would you be willing to license the files for people who were not lucky enough to win the raffle, but have access to a 3d printer and want to make their own case?

I was not planning on joining anything else for at least a year, but this project is so unique that I would join tomorrow if the GB opened then. Can't wait!

[wing1098]

interested, how much it will be?

[Waateva]

cool

[NathanAlphaMan]

Any plans for artisan knobs like the Rama knob for the Satisfaction 75?

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Yes! More details as we get closer to launch!

I'd still like to see even more organic design. I still would like to see maybe branching that also goes laterally instead of just straight down the middle from the initial branch.

Me too, however, manufacturing the base is a complicated problem as it is. I've spent the last two weeks working and reworking the base with my manufacturer, and unfortunately, very organic geometry like that doesn't get made cheaply.

Is there an estimate for when the GB is?

Not yet

interested, how much it will be? :thumb:

TBD

[hottrout]

I wait on GMK Ursa , now just need my ISO Evolv.

[Alpha1]

Another thought is that this layout with the joystick encoder is exactly what I, and many others, want, if you could offer the same layout but in a less premium package (simpler machined or injection molded base) after this first one is done. Have your halo tier typing experience focused model, and a more accessible hobbyist model. Though I understand if that takes away from your whole concept here.

I have plans for exactly this, but it won't be until after the Evolv GB completes

I was reading through the comments on this interest check and saw this. Would you be able to expand upon this idea? I really love the design but I'm not sure it will be in my budget, even with the redesign.

[NathanAlphaMan]

Another thought is that this layout with the joystick encoder is exactly what I, and many others, want, if you could offer the same layout but in a less premium package (simpler machined or injection molded base) after this first one is done. Have your halo tier typing experience focused model, and a more accessible hobbyist model. Though I understand if that takes away from your whole concept here.

I have plans for exactly this, but it won't be until after the Evolv GB completes

I was reading through the comments on this interest check and saw this. Would you be able to expand upon this idea? I really love the design but I'm not sure it will be in my budget, even with the redesign.

Yep! After the Evolv is complete I plan on doing a more financially accessible 65% version.

[CrazyAssMonkey]

Another thought is that this layout with the joystick encoder is exactly what I, and many others, want, if you could offer the same layout but in a less premium package (simpler machined or injection molded base) after this first one is done. Have your halo tier typing experience focused model, and a more accessible hobbyist model. Though I understand if that takes away from your whole concept here.

I have plans for exactly this, but it won't be until after the Evolv GB completes

I was reading through the comments on this interest check and saw this. Would you be able to expand upon this idea? I really love the design but I'm not sure it will be in my budget, even with the redesign.

Yep! After the Evolv is complete I plan on doing a more financially accessible 65% version.

Cough 60%/45% cough   

[NathanAlphaMan]

Another thought is that this layout with the joystick encoder is exactly what I, and many others, want, if you could offer the same layout but in a less premium package (simpler machined or injection molded base) after this first one is done. Have your halo tier typing experience focused model, and a more accessible hobbyist model. Though I understand if that takes away from your whole concept here.

I have plans for exactly this, but it won't be until after the Evolv GB completes

I was reading through the comments on this interest check and saw this. Would you be able to expand upon this idea? I really love the design but I'm not sure it will be in my budget, even with the redesign.

Yep! After the Evolv is complete I plan on doing a more financially accessible 65% version.

Cough 60%/45% cough   

If only I liked either of those layouts lol.

Maybe one day

[CrazyAssMonkey]

Another thought is that this layout with the joystick encoder is exactly what I, and many others, want, if you could offer the same layout but in a less premium package (simpler machined or injection molded base) after this first one is done. Have your halo tier typing experience focused model, and a more accessible hobbyist model. Though I understand if that takes away from your whole concept here.

I have plans for exactly this, but it won't be until after the Evolv GB completes

I was reading through the comments on this interest check and saw this. Would you be able to expand upon this idea? I really love the design but I'm not sure it will be in my budget, even with the redesign.

Yep! After the Evolv is complete I plan on doing a more financially accessible 65% version.

Cough 60%/45% cough   

If only I liked either of those layouts lol.

Maybe one day

 

[dlavelle94]

It has everything I want, but scared to see what the price will be 

[chickenballs]

What is that keycap set in the first renders (the blue and pink/orange on the black top) it looks amazing

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[Leche]

What is that keycap set in the first renders (the blue and pink/orange on the black top) it looks amazing

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PBT Amalfi. It's in IC currently and also being ran by Nathan

[NathanAlphaMan]

What is that keycap set in the first renders (the blue and pink/orange on the black top) it looks amazing

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PBT Amalfi. It's in IC currently and also being ran by Nathan

Shameless self shill: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106530.0

[Bokuwahero]

Is there going to be a limit on this or is it open GB?

[frostfiree]

Is there going to be a limit on this or is it open GB?

With the complexity of the design, I sure hope there is a limit. QC would be a living hell otherwise.

[NathanAlphaMan]

Is there going to be a limit on this or is it open GB?

With the complexity of the design, I sure hope there is a limit. QC would be a living hell otherwise.

This is correct, GB will be limited, with spots be allocated through a raffle

[FlitzDeelman]

This looks awesome. You say v2 will (hopefully) be cheaper than v1 - I can’t find much info online about v1.

Could you let me know the price for v1, so I can tell my wallet what the upper limit (or even just ballpark figure) will be?


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[zandegran]

Is there going to be a limit on this or is it open GB?

With the complexity of the design, I sure hope there is a limit. QC would be a living hell otherwise.

This is correct, GB will be limited, with spots be allocated through a raffle

Fingers crossed


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[stuey138]

This looks awesome. You say v2 will (hopefully) be cheaper than v1 - I can’t find much info online about v1.

Could you let me know the price for v1, so I can tell my wallet what the upper limit (or even just ballpark figure) will be?


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For V1, the only price was that it would be under 1000 dollars

[Zeelobby]

This looks awesome. You say v2 will (hopefully) be cheaper than v1 - I can’t find much info online about v1.

Could you let me know the price for v1, so I can tell my wallet what the upper limit (or even just ballpark figure) will be?


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For V1, the only price was that it would be under 1000 dollars

And clearly it was not. Haha

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[FlitzDeelman]

This looks awesome. You say v2 will (hopefully) be cheaper than v1 - I can’t find much info online about v1.

Could you let me know the price for v1, so I can tell my wallet what the upper limit (or even just ballpark figure) will be?


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For V1, the only price was that it would be under 1000 dollars

And clearly it was not. Haha

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Ouch. I’ll still keep an eye on this, but I might then rather set my heart on something more conventional, like a Duck or the upcoming Rama M65-B, however long that will take.


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[NathanAlphaMan]

This looks awesome. You say v2 will (hopefully) be cheaper than v1 - I can’t find much info online about v1.

Could you let me know the price for v1, so I can tell my wallet what the upper limit (or even just ballpark figure) will be?


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For V1, the only price was that it would be under 1000 dollars

And clearly it was not. Haha

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Ouch. I’ll still keep an eye on this, but I might then rather set my heart on something more conventional, like a Duck or the upcoming Rama M65-B, however long that will take.


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V1 was never released, which is why so little info is available on it. In short, I was unhappy with a number of aspects on the prototype, so I ended up redesigning the board to not only bring down cost, but also to make the entire Evolv experience better.

[FlitzDeelman]

Thanks @NathanAlphaMan. It still looks awesome, so I will keep an eye on this and hope my wallet is strong when it hits GB.


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[syke]

the more i look at the prototypes, i feel there is a slight mismatch between the top and bottom half.
the bottom looks really organic, like the roots of a tree. but the top half looks structured and industrial.
I feel if the bottom half were to be more symmetrical and "grill" like, the entire package would be better matched. just my opinion.

[bow3i]

The redesign has me interested! Any possible price estimate? This look a lot more forgiving on the wallet to produce. I hope it is.

[Sunhwan Jeong]

Personally, I think that the rounded corners of the top will help feel more organic and living thing. This is because creatures do not have angles.

[Wamuu]

Personally, I think that the rounded corners of the top will help feel more organic and living thing. This is because creatures do not have angles.

Ooo good point!


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[FreshCake]

This is a very promising keyboard indeed!
But with the effort you have put into this project, only 50 units of this keyboard would be a disappointment to many people.

Ps. the color in Mito's website is INSANE!

[Butterbeer]

Personally, I think that the rounded corners of the top will help feel more organic and living thing. This is because creatures do not have angles.

Ooo good point!


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Let's not carried away with the organic motif or else we might end up with a wooden keyboard design.

The contrast between the top and bottom halves gives it a Neofuturist architectural look.

[DonaldPShimoda]

This is a very promising keyboard indeed!
But with the effort you have put into this project, only 50 units of this keyboard would be a disappointment to many people.

Ps. the color in Mito's website is INSANE!

I don't think the 50 units is a problem... so long as I get one of them. 

(More would definitely be appreciated!)

[marshskitow]

See a lot a people talking about the price and i was also interested to know but i think it's gonna be more than 500 right ? even more than 600 i guess.

Whatever it's gonna be to expensive for me but this is  the best design keyboard i've ever seen so far. Congratulation guys.

[prizeS]

See a lot a people talking about the price and i was also interested to know but i think it's gonna be more than 500 right ? even more than 600 i guess.

Whatever it's gonna be to expensive for me but this is  the best design keyboard i've ever seen so far. Congratulation guys.

i wouldn't be surprised if this was around $1000.

[NathanAlphaMan]

See a lot a people talking about the price and i was also interested to know but i think it's gonna be more than 500 right ? even more than 600 i guess.

Whatever it's gonna be to expensive for me but this is  the best design keyboard i've ever seen so far. Congratulation guys.

i wouldn't be surprised if this was around $1000.

I'm targeting around $800 for r2, but no promises on that

the more i look at the prototypes, i feel there is a slight mismatch between the top and bottom half.
the bottom looks really organic, like the roots of a tree. but the top half looks structured and industrial.
I feel if the bottom half were to be more symmetrical and "grill" like, the entire package would be better matched. just my opinion.

Personally, I think that the rounded corners of the top will help feel more organic and living thing. This is because creatures do not have angles.

Ooo good point!


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Let's not carried away with the organic motif or else we might end up with a wooden keyboard design.

The contrast between the top and bottom halves gives it a Neofuturist architectural look.

This is done very much on purpose, with the contrast having been accentuated by the redesign. Evolv is not meant to hold a single motif but to be something uniquely different. From the top, it's own thing, and from the bottom, it's another. I personally love the stark contrast between the two, as it embodies the battle between form and function that happens inside the board. Not sure it neo-futurist is the right label for it, but I'll take it