I don't care if somebody paid upfront for a ton of keycaps that he plans to sell, really.
You don't care? Or because you don't understand the difference?
Also, its quite funny that people compare business models with what happens in this community, when its like apples to monkeys, all at once.
Oh, you do understand they are different. But you are just confused.
What troubles me, and should trouble everyone, is that sherryton ordered a ton of product and, although he saw some people investing their time to organize a GB... he said nothing about it. So, the problem is not sherryton wanting to do business... the problem comes when his business screwed up a group-buy AND made the organizers look like idiots since sherryton will bring to the market some of the keycaps the group-buy was planning to bring.
Is it that hard to make an announcement:
"hey guys, just wanted to let you know that I made a deal with xXxXxXx company and will bring original Cherry DS to the market".
You do it like this, you are an upfront and honest person, and nobody gets hurt... because nobody will try to make a GB out of this if you can just get the keycaps the moment (or much closer) you pay for them. Instead, somebody made a "submarine" order... and waited for the GB organizers to have things planned to say "hey, I bought a ton of keycaps so don't bother with the GB". That is NOT what should have happened... and everybody would be happy.
Do you know for a fact that he said nothing? I know Lysol knows about it ahead of time. Lysol posted on his IC thread about it, and then he removed it. Not many people read it before it was deleted. Dan also said he knew about it and that he promised to keep it to himself. I would like Lysol's effort to continue as there are always more color combos and language kits that we would only do in group buys. Keep it going, Lysol.
I bet EK and some other companies have orders submitted to GMK. Otherwise GMK wouldn't be this busy. According to prava, you all should come out and tell everyone what you just ordered. Or you are doing the community a disservice, even though you have invested tens of thousand of dollars, prava doesn't care, your money be damned.
To finish this... please, do not make comparisons between normal vendors and others.
Really? You just did, below. And tell me which vendors who are not in the vendors forum.
I don't see EK nor TKC disguised as a fellow members and then slashing everybody by releasing products. If anything, EK has always been fair with their CC keycaps, even though they KNEW they could make a killing for every single one of them... but they didn't.
Yeah, has EK told the community what CC keycaps he is going to sell in 2 months? Did EK tell the community that he ordered Cherry Red Esc keycaps from GMK? EK's Cherry Red Esc keycaps showed up back in December. So EK knew about GMK and made his order while we are planning the GMK group buy. But he didn't tell us. Why don't you ask EK why he didn't tell us?
And what about TKC? They are very transparent about what they can and what they can't get, and don't wait for somebody to make a GB and then appear with all the same products on the shelf.
Yeah? You know what Filcos they just ordered from Diatec? Where is the Filco group buy on GH that TheKeyboardCo (not TKC) didn't mess up? I want to join.
That is not how a business should work: either you are a part of this community, or you are a business people, but don't try to be both cause you will fail...
You are confused again. Maybe not again, just still confused. You declare Originative failed. How so? Because Originative did you tell you what they ordered from GMK? Yep, total failure according to prava. Yep, If Originative didn't do this, I wouldn't have a chance to order a set of Olivette double shot keycaps, but now I can own a set. Yep, total failure.
as its not nice to be disguised as a keyboard enthusiast and, at the same time, try to make money. Conflict of interest and that sort of things...
Again, tell us which vendors are not on GH's vendors forum.
So, prava, if you were in Originative's position, having invested tens of thousand of dollars in a big order with GMK, you will tell the world that you just did that, so everyone on GH knows about it, so EK, and so other unknown-to-you companies can counter your business goals, and you would expect these other companies to do the same?
Do you play poker with open cards?