Does [kit] include [keycap]?
I have an ISO board, which child deals would cover my board?
How do I cover my [keyboard]?
Why this kit distribution?
Are the Corsair Strafe and Logitech G710 covered?
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The cyan and the pink are not going to look like that. They are not neon colors, they don't glow. This is not going to look like the renders, I guarantee it.
Going to double post here and MassDrop
Please support the actual JIS layout with the Hiragana alphas!
I made a mockup, one for both Hiragana only and Hiragana sub legends. Both support US Ansi and JIS. Thanks for the consideration.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yJkaY6w.jpg)
Any chance this can support Colemak / Dvorak like Yuri?
A Norde kit with non-standard european characters and accents, this is an all-around kit that should work for most (let me know if not).I'm pretty sure that European characters are standard. Non-standard would refer to some non-existing ones or previously unused ways of drawing them. These could be exiting, but are probably not something people would like to see in place of the standard ones. Maybe a non-standard character novelty kit? :))
Digging it.. flux capacitor cap, power glove icon.. can't wait to see the final set
Digging it.. flux capacitor cap, power glove icon.. can't wait to see the final set
man a power glove icon would be really cool.
Any chance this can support Colemak / Dvorak like Yuri?
Looks awesome!
It's been mentioned before elsewhere but upside down crosses as novelties would be awesome (maybe for Win/Super Keys!) and tie in with the theme (see attached images).
Also was a fan of the original "Kanye" glasses novelties, don't listen to the haters they fit the theme and looked awesome!
So are these custom colors or are you using DY and TU2 for the alphas? If the latter I feel like some might be disappointed in the lack of pop.Also interested in knowing this.
this looks awesome. i'd love to get HJKL with arrow legends under for some the vim love.
The cyan and the pink are not going to look like that. They are not neon colors, they don't glow. This is not going to look like the renders, I guarantee it.
Yeah I would definitely worry about the contrast. I bought the Uniq0rn modifiers and aside from the Cyan on Purple they did not look good, very fuzzy.Show Image(https://i.redditmedia.com/U8l6KRmKCwu9oHkUlczYUYjmd3ayzBjF4ZLjaU941-4.jpg?w=1024&s=a51dd4ec1904b01ae019d56ee1178e83)
If possible I would definitely request some actual keycaps from GMK before running the set.
I have the Uniq0rn set as well though my girlfriend has some of the modifiers on her board at work.The legend contrast in this set is a genuine concern but this is a really deceptive photo. Everything is fuzzy. Did you alter this photo or is it just from a potato?The cyan and the pink are not going to look like that. They are not neon colors, they don't glow. This is not going to look like the renders, I guarantee it.Yeah I would definitely worry about the contrast. I bought the Uniq0rn modifiers and aside from the Cyan on Purple they did not look good, very fuzzy.Show Image(https://i.redditmedia.com/U8l6KRmKCwu9oHkUlczYUYjmd3ayzBjF4ZLjaU941-4.jpg?w=1024&s=a51dd4ec1904b01ae019d56ee1178e83)
If possible I would definitely request some actual keycaps from GMK before running the set.
The mod set you're referencing -- it's GMK right? I'd need to see it in a lightbox with a good camera to draw any conclusions relevant to this set. Otherwise it's not a fair comparison.
Skeletor uses DY and TU2 which is why I was asking about that. While there's nothing wrong with it, it's not really as vibrant as the Laser renders would suggest, and I think the vibrance is what people are drawn to. I'm not sure what's up with Naasfu's pic, looks edited.It probably is. I'll try to dig up my Uniq0rn set and see if I can make a neutral picture.
I have the Uniq0rn set as well though my girlfriend has some of the modifiers on her board at work.The legend contrast in this set is a genuine concern but this is a really deceptive photo. Everything is fuzzy. Did you alter this photo or is it just from a potato?The cyan and the pink are not going to look like that. They are not neon colors, they don't glow. This is not going to look like the renders, I guarantee it.Yeah I would definitely worry about the contrast. I bought the Uniq0rn modifiers and aside from the Cyan on Purple they did not look good, very fuzzy.Show Image(https://i.redditmedia.com/U8l6KRmKCwu9oHkUlczYUYjmd3ayzBjF4ZLjaU941-4.jpg?w=1024&s=a51dd4ec1904b01ae019d56ee1178e83)
If possible I would definitely request some actual keycaps from GMK before running the set.
The mod set you're referencing -- it's GMK right? I'd need to see it in a lightbox with a good camera to draw any conclusions relevant to this set. Otherwise it's not a fair comparison.
I can try shooting some pictures to compare.
Also, didn't GMK Skeletor (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83309.0) have a similar color scheme on its modifiers?
Contrast doesn't look too shabby actually:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vswyTTO.jpg)
gadzkunShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/imXIcmG.jpg)
audax989Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iyNDCO3.jpg)
Naasfu
gadzkunShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/imXIcmG.jpg)
I have the Uniq0rn set as well though my girlfriend has some of the modifiers on her board at work.The legend contrast in this set is a genuine concern but this is a really deceptive photo. Everything is fuzzy. Did you alter this photo or is it just from a potato?The cyan and the pink are not going to look like that. They are not neon colors, they don't glow. This is not going to look like the renders, I guarantee it.Yeah I would definitely worry about the contrast. I bought the Uniq0rn modifiers and aside from the Cyan on Purple they did not look good, very fuzzy.Show Image(https://i.redditmedia.com/U8l6KRmKCwu9oHkUlczYUYjmd3ayzBjF4ZLjaU941-4.jpg?w=1024&s=a51dd4ec1904b01ae019d56ee1178e83)
If possible I would definitely request some actual keycaps from GMK before running the set.
The mod set you're referencing -- it's GMK right? I'd need to see it in a lightbox with a good camera to draw any conclusions relevant to this set. Otherwise it's not a fair comparison.
I can try shooting some pictures to compare.
Also, didn't GMK Skeletor (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83309.0) have a similar color scheme on its modifiers?
Contrast doesn't look too shabby actually:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vswyTTO.jpg)
gadzkunShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/imXIcmG.jpg)
audax989Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iyNDCO3.jpg)
Naasfu
Yeah, I have Skeletor too. If we're only concerned with the cyan on purple (pretty sure we are) then there's no problem with the legend contrast. It pops.
gadzkunShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/imXIcmG.jpg)
Are those CYAN LED's? Didn't know you could get them. They would be a great match for this set, and that image demonstrates so.
Interested! Any info on the price??
Please add 2u R4 shift key for XD60 support!
Tried my hand at a few noveltiesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/vBRvJpt.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ph1U8AE.png)
Ghost in the ShellShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3x6y0mE.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lA10UMu.png)
Tried my hand at a few noveltiesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/vBRvJpt.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ph1U8AE.png)
Ghost in the ShellShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/3x6y0mE.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lA10UMu.png)
I love those Ghost in the Shell logo “笑い男” and "個別の十一人", but I don't think they understand what they mean.
Scoops? :P
Is there any chance for Hyper, Super, Meta keys instead of Control, Code, Alt? I feel like it'd fit the cyberpunk theme really well.
+2Is there any chance for Hyper, Super, Meta keys instead of Control, Code, Alt? I feel like it'd fit the cyberpunk theme really well.
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+2Is there any chance for Hyper, Super, Meta keys instead of Control, Code, Alt? I feel like it'd fit the cyberpunk theme really well.
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Any chance you can squeeze a 1u TAB in r2 and a 1u ENTER in r4? Would all that is missing for perfect minivan coverage. There are quite a few keys already in for that so might be nice to fill the niche completely.
+2Is there any chance for Hyper, Super, Meta keys instead of Control, Code, Alt? I feel like it'd fit the cyberpunk theme really well.
+1
I think it would be super awesome to have these modifiers as well, but these molds do not exist with GMK and I don't think it's worth making this time. If we decide to go with Hyper, Super, Meta keycaps the community will demand regular legend keycaps (Ctrl, Alt, Win, etc) - and then I'll have to offer two different modifier kits. If I manage to offer the kits in a modular manner (instead of a base kit as we have for now) then I think it's doable. For now, I believe the best course of action to take is offer Ctrl, Alt, Win only. I hope you guys understand!
> Added magenta ISO to Eurokit;
> Condensed Novelties A and Novelties B into one kit.
Mito, not sure if you saw my post on the first page but the Euro kit is missing a R4 | \ key to complete UK ISO.
Ah I see! That's even better, thanks for clarifying. :)Mito, not sure if you saw my post on the first page but the Euro kit is missing a R4 | \ key to complete UK ISO.
I definitely saw it, forgot to give you an update about that. The thing is that this keycap is already included on the Base Kit, however I erroneously labelled it as being a R3 keycap instead of R4. I'll fix the Base Kit render in order to reflect this, does that make sense?
Please vote for your favorite Hiragana kit here (https://mitormk.com/2017/05/01/mitos-updates-2/), and let me know what your thoughts are about the condensed Novelty kit!
CHANGELOG:Quote> Added magenta ISO to Eurokit;
> Condensed Novelties A and Novelties B into one kit.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yusN8f0.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EPTCWIb.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XGDMOLb.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iXApFiZ.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3Eb2JuD.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MhgZZeW.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3zeUP4P.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XWXvryJ.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/V7DrLkl.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c5nNyYf.png)
I feel like Gaijin works best since all the mods are in English, even though I prefer the cleaner look of Hiragana. Don't care much for Hybrid.
The finalized novelties kit is awesome, I love the Ghost in the Shell keys, there's something I like about the cassette key too.
Gaijin looks better than I expected it to and while I'd prefer Hiragana mono-legends I'm still so in for Gaijin.
The finalized novelties kit is awesome, I love the Ghost in the Shell keys, there's something I like about the cassette key too.
Gaijin looks better than I expected it to and while I'd prefer Hiragana mono-legends I'm still so in for Gaijin.
Agreed on all fronts, novelties are fantastic.
My main input here is regarding legends as we've already discussed Mito - I still think straight mono Hiragana looks best, it's EXTREMELY clean and just lovely but the Gaijin option is actually much less cluttered than I thought; in fact, it looks very good and I'll still be buying in if it wins over mono.
I feel like Gaijin works best since all the mods are in English, even though I prefer the cleaner look of Hiragana. Don't care much for Hybrid.
Agreed on Hybrid, it just seems like a compromise that doesn't work so well.
Any chance of a 96 layout render? I'm imaging it in my head but actual visuals are always nice. Anyways, I say keep the kits simple, no need for a ton of different wording on the modifiers, IMO.
The finalized novelties kit is awesome, I love the Ghost in the Shell keys, there's something I like about the cassette key too.
Gaijin looks better than I expected it to and while I'd prefer Hiragana mono-legends I'm still so in for Gaijin.
Agreed on all fronts, novelties are fantastic.
My main input here is regarding legends as we've already discussed Mito - I still think straight mono Hiragana looks best, it's EXTREMELY clean and just lovely but the Gaijin option is actually much less cluttered than I thought; in fact, it looks very good and I'll still be buying in if it wins over mono.
A guy from the MD talk tab suggested the swap for a couple convex keycaps in the ErgoPlanck kit. He even made a quick mockup to represent the keycaps he'd like to see convex, is anyone else interested in this change? I don't think it's clever to offer both convex and normal, the kit will end up with far too many duplicated wasted keycaps. I'd like to swap:Please do this. In addition, make the 1u keycaps in the ErgoDox thumb clusters and the 2u keycaps in the Spacebars Kit convex as well. After you do this you should even be able to merge some of the keycaps for the ErgoDox and the Planck.
- Lower/Raise to convex instead of normal;
- 2u and 2 x 1u spacebars to convex instead of normal.
The thumb cluster for the ErgoDox can be adjusted as well, so please let me know if there's any interest in that!
Please vote for your favorite Hiragana kit here (https://mitormk.com/2017/05/01/mitos-updates-2/), and let me know what your thoughts are about the condensed Novelty kit!
CHANGELOG:Quote> Added magenta ISO to Eurokit;
> Condensed Novelties A and Novelties B into one kit.
Please vote for your favorite Hiragana kit here (https://mitormk.com/2017/05/01/mitos-updates-2/), and let me know what your thoughts are about the condensed Novelty kit!
CHANGELOG:Quote> Added magenta ISO to Eurokit;
> Condensed Novelties A and Novelties B into one kit.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yusN8f0.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EPTCWIb.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XGDMOLb.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/iXApFiZ.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3Eb2JuD.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MhgZZeW.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3zeUP4P.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XWXvryJ.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/V7DrLkl.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/c5nNyYf.png)
A guy from the MD talk tab suggested the swap for a couple convex keycaps in the ErgoPlanck kit. He even made a quick mockup to represent the keycaps he'd like to see convex, is anyone else interested in this change? I don't think it's clever to offer both convex and normal, the kit will end up with far too many duplicated wasted keycaps. I'd like to swap:Please do this. In addition, make the 1u keycaps in the ErgoDox thumb clusters and the 2u keycaps in the Spacebars Kit convex as well. After you do this you should even be able to merge some of the keycaps for the ErgoDox and the Planck.
- Lower/Raise to convex instead of normal;
- 2u and 2 x 1u spacebars to convex instead of normal.
The thumb cluster for the ErgoDox can be adjusted as well, so please let me know if there's any interest in that!
Nailed it.
Dude. This set is getting better with each of your updates. Merged novelties and Gaijin latin/jp legends. Perfection
Gaijin! Because that's what I am ;D
It feels rich and captures the attention. As clean as it looks, Hiragana feels kinda empty. And I need my latin characters, even if I don't look at them.
Whichever wins, I am getting the JP alphas anyway. :thumb:
Working on it, stand by!Awesome! Can't wait to see it. Great work on this set, the updated novelties are great and I like the Gaijin set. Would you be separating out alphas/mods or would we buy a full kit with regular alphas and then an additional kit?
I’m only concerned that if the “Gaijin” (perhaps better termed Weeaboo?) mockup wins, this will probably turn out to be just another set for people who don’t actually plan on typing Japanese. The “Gaijin” and “Hybrid” kits would require over a dozen extra caps to be useful for typing Japanese, whereas the Hiragana only kit would maximally require four.
It just seems like a shame to get set after set (DSA Otaku, XDA Milestone, a couple of Dye sub sets, etc.) with Japanese legends on ANSI layouts with no love for anyone who might actually want to type Japanese. You might as well put the hiragana in random locations or use a random assortment of kanji or hentaigana if this is going to be bought by a bunch of English monoglots for the looks.
I’m only concerned that if the “Gaijin” (perhaps better termed Weeaboo?) mockup wins, this will probably turn out to be just another set for people who don’t actually plan on typing Japanese. The “Gaijin” and “Hybrid” kits would require over a dozen extra caps to be useful for typing Japanese, whereas the Hiragana only kit would maximally require four.I sympathize, but if the vast majority of the target audience isn't going to actually type in Japanese and just wants the hiragana to lend more to the cyberpunk aethetics of the set, then the Gaijin option it probably the better way to go. All I know is if the kit was sold in modifiers + choice of alphas and it was the Gaijin set, I'd buy that because it lends to the theme of the board and still has useful legends for me (or my wife who uses my computer from time to time and may need to hunt for a key since the layout isn't what she's used to. If we have to buy the second alpha kit in addition to the standard I'm not sure I'd go for it since I'm fine with the normal alphas too.
It just seems like a shame to get set after set (DSA Otaku, XDA Milestone, a couple of Dye sub sets, etc.) with Japanese legends on ANSI layouts with no love for anyone who might actually want to type Japanese. You might as well put the hiragana in random locations or use a random assortment of kanji or hentaigana if this is going to be bought by a bunch of English monoglots for the looks.
I’m only concerned that if the “Gaijin” (perhaps better termed Weeaboo?) mockup wins, this will probably turn out to be just another set for people who don’t actually plan on typing Japanese. The “Gaijin” and “Hybrid” kits would require over a dozen extra caps to be useful for typing Japanese, whereas the Hiragana only kit would maximally require four.
It just seems like a shame to get set after set (DSA Otaku, XDA Milestone, a couple of Dye sub sets, etc.) with Japanese legends on ANSI layouts with no love for anyone who might actually want to type Japanese. You might as well put the hiragana in random locations or use a random assortment of kanji or hentaigana if this is going to be bought by a bunch of English monoglots for the looks.
Considering both Gaijin and Mono-Hiragana have the same Hiragana legends in the same place, what would make mini-Hiragana more useful for typing Japanese than Gaijin?
I’m only concerned that if the “Gaijin” (perhaps better termed Weeaboo?) mockup wins, this will probably turn out to be just another set for people who don’t actually plan on typing Japanese. The “Gaijin” and “Hybrid” kits would require over a dozen extra caps to be useful for typing Japanese, whereas the Hiragana only kit would maximally require four.I sympathize, but if the vast majority of the target audience isn't going to actually type in Japanese and just wants the hiragana to lend more to the cyberpunk aethetics of the set, then the Gaijin option it probably the better way to go. All I know is if the kit was sold in modifiers + choice of alphas and it was the Gaijin set, I'd buy that because it lends to the theme of the board and still has useful legends for me (or my wife who uses my computer from time to time and may need to hunt for a key since the layout isn't what she's used to. If we have to buy the second alpha kit in addition to the standard I'm not sure I'd go for it since I'm fine with the normal alphas too.
It just seems like a shame to get set after set (DSA Otaku, XDA Milestone, a couple of Dye sub sets, etc.) with Japanese legends on ANSI layouts with no love for anyone who might actually want to type Japanese. You might as well put the hiragana in random locations or use a random assortment of kanji or hentaigana if this is going to be bought by a bunch of English monoglots for the looks.
^ what he said. I was just having a similar discussion on Slack a couple hours ago actually; how much of a percentage of special alphabet kits bought actually serve their purpose? I wager around 10% which seemed to be the highest guess, with the lowest being 1%. People want the eye candy, not the practicality.
I recognize that it’s quite niche, which is why I feel like it’s a shame that Hiragana only mods appear to be losing. I don’t think four extra keys to flesh out support for the language on the caps is too much to ask for, but I could understand apprehension at the dozen or so required for the ones that are vaguely orientalist US ANSI.
I recognize that it’s quite niche, which is why I feel like it’s a shame that Hiragana only mods appear to be losing. I don’t think four extra keys to flesh out support for the language on the caps is too much to ask for, but I could understand apprehension at the dozen or so required for the ones that are vaguely orientalist US ANSI.
Depends on the size of the keys necessary - GMK is asking for $300 per new doubleshot legend mould for 1u keys; if the additional 1-1.5k necessary is made back in sales then it'd obviously be worth it (or at least do no harm) but if there'd be different sizes than 1u needed it might be a lot more complicated than it already is.
No, realistically, everyone is quite right to doubt that enough people care about JIS support to justify the extra cost. I don’t think the cost of 4–5 caps would make or break the kit for many people but a dozen might. FWIW though, JIS actually only uses 1× keys for the alphas whereas supporting US ANSI with (frankly arbitrary) Japanese sub‐legends may require an extra 1.5× key (the pipe key with ‘Mu’ sub‐legend) if GMK doesn’t already have the mold.
No, realistically, everyone is quite right to doubt that enough people care about JIS support to justify the extra cost. I don’t think the cost of 4–5 caps would make or break the kit for many people but a dozen might. FWIW though, JIS actually only uses 1× keys for the alphas whereas supporting US ANSI with (frankly arbitrary) Japanese sub‐legends may require an extra 1.5× key (the pipe key with ‘Mu’ sub‐legend) if GMK doesn’t already have the mold.
I appreciate the information and I'm sure others do as well - I'm really not aware of what the JIS layouts look like, I've never looked into it and the only one I've studied a little has been the Realforce 91U which was recently on Massdrop and which I also purchased. Realistically the added JIS keys would probably not attract that many people but it'd still be cool and I definitely see why you would mention it in the first place, my only concern is that the kit will already be quite expensive probably so even something as low as like $3-5 for the added support might turn off some of the potential buyers.
Complicated business!
No, realistically, everyone is quite right to doubt that enough people care about JIS support to justify the extra cost. I don’t think the cost of 4–5 caps would make or break the kit for many people but a dozen might. FWIW though, JIS actually only uses 1× keys for the alphas whereas supporting US ANSI with (frankly arbitrary) Japanese sub‐legends may require an extra 1.5× key (the pipe key with ‘Mu’ sub‐legend) if GMK doesn’t already have the mold.
I appreciate the information and I'm sure others do as well - I'm really not aware of what the JIS layouts look like, I've never looked into it and the only one I've studied a little has been the Realforce 91U which was recently on Massdrop and which I also purchased. Realistically the added JIS keys would probably not attract that many people but it'd still be cool and I definitely see why you would mention it in the first place, my only concern is that the kit will already be quite expensive probably so even something as low as like $3-5 for the added support might turn off some of the potential buyers.
Complicated business!
Unfortunately you’re one of the few people who does own a JIS board. I’m typing on one and I plan on building a 60% with at least the top four rows of the JIS layout (PCB support is also regrettably spotty). Japanese aside, if you get creative with the layout having three extra alpha keys is nice for typing English too!
Here’s my half hearted suggestion for supporting JIS cheaply in the likely event that JP sub‐legends are decided on. ...But I think it’s probably safe to say I’ll be skipping the “Japanese” kit for this set, unfortunately. Though I might buy it just for the resale value ;DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/35yH849.png)
No, realistically, everyone is quite right to doubt that enough people care about JIS support to justify the extra cost. I don’t think the cost of 4–5 caps would make or break the kit for many people but a dozen might. FWIW though, JIS actually only uses 1× keys for the alphas whereas supporting US ANSI with (frankly arbitrary) Japanese sub‐legends may require an extra 1.5× key (the pipe key with ‘Mu’ sub‐legend) if GMK doesn’t already have the mold.
I appreciate the information and I'm sure others do as well - I'm really not aware of what the JIS layouts look like, I've never looked into it and the only one I've studied a little has been the Realforce 91U which was recently on Massdrop and which I also purchased. Realistically the added JIS keys would probably not attract that many people but it'd still be cool and I definitely see why you would mention it in the first place, my only concern is that the kit will already be quite expensive probably so even something as low as like $3-5 for the added support might turn off some of the potential buyers.
Complicated business!
Unfortunately you’re one of the few people who does own a JIS board. I’m typing on one and I plan on building a 60% with at least the top four rows of the JIS layout (PCB support is also regrettably spotty). Japanese aside, if you get creative with the layout having three extra alpha keys is nice for typing English too!
Here’s my half hearted suggestion for supporting JIS cheaply in the likely event that JP sub‐legends are decided on. ...But I think it’s probably safe to say I’ll be skipping the “Japanese” kit for this set, unfortunately. Though I might buy it just for the resale value ;DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/35yH849.png)
I am actually very disheartened that this set doesn't support JIS layouts. I would like to suggest an R1 JIS Kit, and would be happy to help design that. Like mentioned above, the extra 5 or so keys really wouldn't break the bank, and should be put into a separate kit for those of us who want it.
... honestly it's just silly to have a hiragana kit, but not actually give it JIS functionality. At this point it's just for people who only want the aesthetic.
No, realistically, everyone is quite right to doubt that enough people care about JIS support to justify the extra cost. I don’t think the cost of 4–5 caps would make or break the kit for many people but a dozen might. FWIW though, JIS actually only uses 1× keys for the alphas whereas supporting US ANSI with (frankly arbitrary) Japanese sub‐legends may require an extra 1.5× key (the pipe key with ‘Mu’ sub‐legend) if GMK doesn’t already have the mold.
I appreciate the information and I'm sure others do as well - I'm really not aware of what the JIS layouts look like, I've never looked into it and the only one I've studied a little has been the Realforce 91U which was recently on Massdrop and which I also purchased. Realistically the added JIS keys would probably not attract that many people but it'd still be cool and I definitely see why you would mention it in the first place, my only concern is that the kit will already be quite expensive probably so even something as low as like $3-5 for the added support might turn off some of the potential buyers.
Complicated business!
Unfortunately you’re one of the few people who does own a JIS board. I’m typing on one and I plan on building a 60% with at least the top four rows of the JIS layout (PCB support is also regrettably spotty). Japanese aside, if you get creative with the layout having three extra alpha keys is nice for typing English too!
Here’s my half hearted suggestion for supporting JIS cheaply in the likely event that JP sub‐legends are decided on. ...But I think it’s probably safe to say I’ll be skipping the “Japanese” kit for this set, unfortunately. Though I might buy it just for the resale value ;DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/35yH849.png)
I am actually very disheartened that this set doesn't support JIS layouts. I would like to suggest an R4 JIS Kit, and would be happy to help design that. Like mentioned above, the extra 5 or so keys really wouldn't break the bank, and should be put into a separate kit for those of us who want it.
... honestly it's just silly to have a hiragana kit, but not actually give it JIS functionality. At this point it's just for people who only want the aesthetic.
No, realistically, everyone is quite right to doubt that enough people care about JIS support to justify the extra cost. I don’t think the cost of 4–5 caps would make or break the kit for many people but a dozen might. FWIW though, JIS actually only uses 1× keys for the alphas whereas supporting US ANSI with (frankly arbitrary) Japanese sub‐legends may require an extra 1.5× key (the pipe key with ‘Mu’ sub‐legend) if GMK doesn’t already have the mold.
I appreciate the information and I'm sure others do as well - I'm really not aware of what the JIS layouts look like, I've never looked into it and the only one I've studied a little has been the Realforce 91U which was recently on Massdrop and which I also purchased. Realistically the added JIS keys would probably not attract that many people but it'd still be cool and I definitely see why you would mention it in the first place, my only concern is that the kit will already be quite expensive probably so even something as low as like $3-5 for the added support might turn off some of the potential buyers.
Complicated business!
Unfortunately you’re one of the few people who does own a JIS board. I’m typing on one and I plan on building a 60% with at least the top four rows of the JIS layout (PCB support is also regrettably spotty). Japanese aside, if you get creative with the layout having three extra alpha keys is nice for typing English too!
Here’s my half hearted suggestion for supporting JIS cheaply in the likely event that JP sub‐legends are decided on. ...But I think it’s probably safe to say I’ll be skipping the “Japanese” kit for this set, unfortunately. Though I might buy it just for the resale value ;DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/35yH849.png)
I am actually very disheartened that this set doesn't support JIS layouts. I would like to suggest an R4 JIS Kit, and would be happy to help design that. Like mentioned above, the extra 5 or so keys really wouldn't break the bank, and should be put into a separate kit for those of us who want it.
... honestly it's just silly to have a hiragana kit, but not actually give it JIS functionality. At this point it's just for people who only want the aesthetic.
Considering how much GMK charges for new molds, a JIS set would need a decent number of orders to really be worth it. I'm not saying it can't happen, but it's unlikely.
The idea of the Hiragana kit was for the aesthetic since it works well with the 80s retrofuture/cyberpunk look, so it does make some sense not to support JIS.
Considering how much GMK charges for new molds, a JIS set would need a decent number of orders to really be worth it. I'm not saying it can't happen, but it's unlikely.
The idea of the Hiragana kit was for the aesthetic since it works well with the 80s retrofuture/cyberpunk look, so it does make some sense not to support JIS.
Ok. I can understand that. If this set doesn't get enough interest in FULL JIS support, I would at least humbly beg for R4 support. R4 on JIS layouts is mostly 1u keys, so those of us who do need to fill that row will need to buy the Planck kit just for the blank caps.
Ok. I can understand that. If this set doesn't get enough interest in FULL JIS support, I would at least humbly beg for R4 support. R4 on JIS layouts is mostly 1u keys, so those of us who do need to fill that row will need to buy the Planck kit just for the blank caps.
I didn’t notice your edit before I posted. I was actually only talking about the alphas when I was going on about requisite keys, because:
- Honestly there are very few Cherry MX keyboards that support the JIS bottom row
- MiTo didn’t go with icon mods so there will be English mods anyway
- Key sizes don’t seem to be rigorously standardized (except a 2.5u spacebar which GMK can’t even make) when it comes to the JIS bottom row, and this set has R4 novelties that would work in a pinch if you find something with enough keys
Originally voiced my opinion on r/mk for the Gaijin set, but Hiragana is just too unique, simple, and clean to pass up. There isn't a pure Hiragana Cherry-profile set around, this would make a hell of an entrance! Double-shot at it as well!
Again, the simplicity of the mono Hiragana is so stunning and gorgeous. I really wish that'd be the option that makes it. I understand that Gaijin has a bunch of things going for it, mainly the fact that a lot of people (somehow) don't touch type and want the Latin legends and also the whole thing about a little bit more matching synergy between mods and alphas but still, the mono is just too ****ing special man.
Again, the simplicity of the mono Hiragana is so stunning and gorgeous. I really wish that'd be the option that makes it. I understand that Gaijin has a bunch of things going for it, mainly the fact that a lot of people (somehow) don't touch type and want the Latin legends and also the whole thing about a little bit more matching synergy between mods and alphas but still, the mono is just too ****ing special man.
I'm still hoping that I'll be able to break the kits in a modular manner (like SA and DSA keycap sets), that would be very nice. Mostly because I'd be able to offer alphas and modifiers separately, which is something that could potentially open doors for secondary modifier kits like icons only or something. If the modular option is provided but the current iteration turns out to be cheaper, I'm going to maintain things as they are though.
I'm still hoping that I'll be able to break the kits in a modular manner (like SA and DSA keycap sets), that would be very nice. Mostly because I'd be able to offer alphas and modifiers separately, which is something that could potentially open doors for secondary modifier kits like icons only or something. If the modular option is provided but the current iteration turns out to be cheaper, I'm going to maintain things as they are though.
So if they aren't modular someone would need to order the base kit of alphas and mods and then the Hiragana kit on top of that? Or would there be a Latin alpha and mod kit and a hiragana alpha and mod kit?
So if they aren't modular someone would need to order the base kit of alphas and mods and then the Hiragana kit on top of that? Or would there be a Latin alpha and mod kit and a hiragana alpha and mod kit?
As I understand it from GMK Carbon for example and now more recently the upcoming Yuri, you are not pigeon-held into buying in to both - the way it works is; standard kit is released first and if it is met with appropriate success it then enables the "secondary" kits, in Carbon's case novelties/International, in Yuri's case Cyrillic and Icon Mods, in Laser's case Ortho/ergo, Hiragana, etc.
Of course this all depends on GMK, Massdrop, the designer, etc. but I believe that's what Mito means when he mentions modularity.
Again, the simplicity of the mono Hiragana is so stunning and gorgeous. I really wish that'd be the option that makes it. I understand that Gaijin has a bunch of things going for it, mainly the fact that a lot of people (somehow) don't touch type and want the Latin legends and also the whole thing about a little bit more matching synergy between mods and alphas but still, the mono is just too ****ing special man.
Also, regarding the JIS compatibility I think it is worth taking a look at since we are doing a japanese kit. If the number of keycaps is somewhat reasonable I believe I could try to make it work with the manufacturer. I'll be honest with you, the idea is to offer this kit merely for aesthetics and I don't think JIS compatibility will be available. But just for the sake of it, from my understanding, if we go with the Gaijin version we are 9 keycaps short?
I tagged the missing keycaps (in case we go with the Gaijin version) with red:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Yhwn9eb.png)
Yea I think icon mods would work very well here - would need to see it to be sure (as you said, some times something you visualise in your head seems amazing but then in reality it doesn't really work like the hybrids) but one thing I know is T0mb3ry worked very hard to achieve the current iteration of his Yuri icon mods; if he'd allow you to use the same icons and respective moulds then not only would it probably be much cheaper (maybe even as cheap as the current latin legend ones) but also very realistic.
I can already envision his icon mods with mono hiragana alphas, that'd be a sight to behold I'm sure, especially given this set's retro-futuristic theme.
My question is a totally practical one. I type reasonably well, but still need legends. I know, shameful, eh? ;) But I also don't read Japanese. So for anyone in similar boat who has used Otaku, how hard is it to adjust and functionally use a set with single legends in a language other than the one I understand...??
Hey, thank you for the consideration anyway. You missed a few that are shifted over one, unfortunately.
I highlighted the changes and overlayed what I understand you have planned that is different in what you missed.
EDIT: Granted the smaller variant Kana are left out, as they are in your render.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FETe5jt.png)
Even just icon mods for all but the bottom row would be lovely, IMO.
So if they aren't modular someone would need to order the base kit of alphas and mods and then the Hiragana kit on top of that? Or would there be a Latin alpha and mod kit and a hiragana alpha and mod kit?
As I understand it from GMK Carbon for example and now more recently the upcoming Yuri, you are not pigeon-held into buying in to both - the way it works is; standard kit is released first and if it is met with appropriate success it then enables the "secondary" kits, in Carbon's case novelties/International, in Yuri's case Cyrillic and Icon Mods, in Laser's case Ortho/ergo, Hiragana, etc.
Of course this all depends on GMK, Massdrop, the designer, etc. but I believe that's what Mito means when he mentions modularity.
Gotcha, I haven't been in on a GMK group buy before and I'd have been much less interested in Laser if I had to get Latin as well as Hiragana since that would have driven the cost up a fair bit.
Originally voiced my opinion on r/mk for the Gaijin set, but Hiragana is just too unique, simple, and clean to pass up. There isn't a pure Hiragana Cherry-profile set around, this would make a hell of an entrance! Double-shot at it as well!
I'm so torn. I voted for the Gaijin too, but holy smokes, the simplicity of the Hiragana is freaking awesome!! Especially in the newest renders- that's the nuts right there.
My question is a totally practical one. I type reasonably well, but still need legends. I know, shameful, eh? ;) But I also don't read Japanese. So for anyone in similar boat who has used Otaku, how hard is it to adjust and functionally use a set with single legends in a language other than the one I understand...??
As for now, if somebody wants a hiragana keyboard he would be required to order:
> Base Kit
> Hiragana Kit
As you can see on OP.
But in the event of modularity being available, I could split the current kits into mini kits like:
> Latin Alphas Kit
> Modifiers Kit
> Numpad Kit
> Hiragana Alphas Kit
> etc, etc, etc
In any case, after things are sorted (i.e. as we move closer to the group buy), I'm going to offer the most affordable and achievable distribution method - that you can be sure!
but the fact that you need the modifiers from the base kit still after getting Hiragana legends, correct?
I believe there's a distinction to be made there, if one would want to just buy the Hiragana set being fully aware they'd be left without modifiers
Wow, are people actually trying to turn this into a full JIS set?
Dude, **** off. This is a badass 80s glam and cyberpunk set. Stop trying to co-opt it for your Japanese layout. Nobody is going to buy that **** and you'll ruin the kit for everyone. It's ****ing hilarious that we're getting called weaboos for wanting some kickass legends that fit the theme perfectly, because they'd only partially work on a full JIS keyboard. Pro tip: no one cares. Give it a rest.
Wow, are people actually trying to turn this into a full JIS set?
Dude, **** off. This is a badass 80s glam and cyberpunk set. Stop trying to co-opt it for your Japanese layout. Nobody is going to buy that **** and you'll ruin the kit for everyone. It's ****ing hilarious that we're getting called weaboos for wanting some kickass legends that fit the theme perfectly, because they'd only partially work on a full JIS keyboard. Pro tip: no one cares. Give it a rest.
If Hiragana mods won it would be four keys away from JIS compatibility, all I’m realistically asking for since that isn’t going to happen is that an additional kit be considered.
Sorry I don’t like your “kickass” weeaboo legends, if you’re very adamant about keysets not being compatible with standardized keyboard layouts (because extra keys would “ruin it for everyone”) I might recommend DSA Otaku — since the fact that this set will go farther than most Hiragana sub‐legend sets by including the dakuten and handakuten will surely ruin it for you because clearly MiTo is “ruining it for everyone” by bringing it somewhat closer to having every symbol on a actual Japanese keyboard. Since I don’t have some Kanji tattoo picked out of a book or dated T‐Shirts with “kickass” Korean or Japanese gibberish to match them with, I’ll simply elect to not to buy sets that aren’t actually good for typing the languages on them.
I requested JIS compatibility before MiTo had posted anything other than that he was considering a Japanese kit, I’m not “co‐opting” anything. They’re entirely within their rights to decide that the set is better served with a focus on aesthetics, he asked for suggestions regarding the kit. I know I’m not the only person interested in JIS compatibility or I wouldn’t have even mentioned it after it was somewhat cleared up for me that the renders were tentatively exhaustive.
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Although I'm not fond of the colour theme, the novelties certainly peaked my interest given the GitS keys. Thanks MiTo for designing them and so they can have their moulds with GMK in the first place.
I didn't notice the Major's neural link reference until I read the description, i.e a bit too abstract for me and the "Individual Eleven" key would be best suited for a white-on-black keycap imo but I digress. The real kicker here is if there's a laughing man logo key and I would insta-buy the whole set just to have that 1 key as you can probably see from my username & my avatar.
anyways, I voted for the Gaijin option and hopefully a laughing man keycap magically appears in the novelty kit. cheers!
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Although I'm not fond of the colour theme, the novelties certainly peaked my interest given the GitS keys. Thanks MiTo for designing them and so they can have their moulds with GMK in the first place.
I didn't notice the Major's neural link reference until I read the description, i.e a bit too abstract for me and the "Individual Eleven" key would be best suited for a white-on-black keycap imo but I digress. The real kicker here is if there's a laughing man logo key and I would insta-buy the whole set just to have that 1 key as you can probably see from my username & my avatar.
anyways, I voted for the Gaijin option and hopefully a laughing man keycap magically appears in the novelty kit. cheers!
What a coincidence, you're indeed a fan! Nice username and avatar as well, I think it's meant to be. First of all - thanks for the thoughtful reply, I definitely appreciate the feedback and criticism. I'm happy that you enjoy the novelties and that initially you weren't too interested in the set but things changed after you seen them.
Now, for the neuralink - it's an abstraction of the symbol we previously had and the spot on @callow (over Massdrop Talk Tab) concept. His idea was a bit too complex to implement, despite looking very good, so I decided to go with mine. I think it's cool in it's own nature, perhaps something from a fictional universe we are shaping right now?!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZeQECwP.png)
About 笑い男, I gave it a try. You can see in the image above the Hall of Shame, which is a render of some lame novelties that I wasn't really happy with, after seeing the final result. I designed many others, which aren't included in the render. As for the 笑い男 specifically, I think the design is too thin/small to be properly manufacturable. 個別の十一人 on BoW/WoB would be cool and I'm with you on this one. But then again we would mess with the color coordination we currently have going on for the assembly of novelties. Well, I hope you understand!
I think it'd be worth asking GMK if it's possible to make that Laughing Man key as I don't see it as "Hall of Shame" worthy at all in terms of design. It's a much more recognizable symbol of GitS than the neural link, which just like thelaughingman I didn't even realize was a GitS key until I read the description. I'd personally be more likely to buy the novelty set if the laughing man key were a part of it.
As for the 笑い男 specifically, I think the design is too thin/small to be properly manufacturable. 個別の十一人 on BoW/WoB would be cool and I'm with you on this one. But then again we would mess with the color coordination we currently have going on for the assembly of novelties. Well, I hope you understand!
Personally I’m most pleased the origami unicorn could make it, I think it’s the quintessential image of the quintessential piece of Sci‐Fi media ever. I was worried it would be too complex to get a good facsimile of, but it worked out excellently.
I think it'd be worth asking GMK if it's possible to make that Laughing Man key as I don't see it as "Hall of Shame" worthy at all in terms of design. It's a much more recognizable symbol of GitS than the neural link, which just like thelaughingman I didn't even realize was a GitS key until I read the description. I'd personally be more likely to buy the novelty set if the laughing man key were a part of it.
Yeah I thank you for your work and I do understand that we're limited with the 1u surface area. I love GitS to death and can go on and on about it but this is not a GitS keyset LOL. I forgot to mention that I love the Tachikoma key, those guys are awesome and deserve a mention and I also find the 88 1.25u really cool, especially in how you intentionally have it resembles old Windows logos. One last thing I will say about the novelties is that I don't feel strongly for the keys already included in GMK Carbon Novelties, they seem out-of-tune to me compare to the other keys that have more interesting designs and backstories.
On to the main set, the original Latin-only alphas and the colours did not jump out to me at all when I first saw it on Massdrop talk months ago. Two things now have covered those points: the Gaijin alphas definitely makes it look fuller to my taste, and the more pink (correct me if I'm wrong but it looks pink to my eyes) there is on this set (accent keys & novelties), the better the whole set looks to me.
Have this thread on watch now while I continue waiting for Canvas XDA to be produced ;D ;D ;D
I think it'd be worth asking GMK if it's possible to make that Laughing Man key as I don't see it as "Hall of Shame" worthy at all in terms of design. It's a much more recognizable symbol of GitS than the neural link, which just like thelaughingman I didn't even realize was a GitS key until I read the description. I'd personally be more likely to buy the novelty set if the laughing man key were a part of it.
I think this is the answer you were looking for:
As for the 笑い男 specifically, I think the design is too thin/small to be properly manufacturable. 個別の十一人 on BoW/WoB would be cool and I'm with you on this one. But then again we would mess with the color coordination we currently have going on for the assembly of novelties. Well, I hope you understand!
Yeah I thank you for your work and I do understand that we're limited with the 1u surface area. I love GitS to death and can go on and on about it but this is not a GitS keyset LOL. I forgot to mention that I love the Tachikoma key, those guys are awesome and deserve a mention and I also find the 88 1.25u really cool, especially in how you intentionally have it resembles old Windows logos. One last thing I will say about the novelties is that I don't feel strongly for the keys already included in GMK Carbon Novelties, they seem out-of-tune to me compare to the other keys that have more interesting designs and backstories.
On to the main set, the original Latin-only alphas and the colours did not jump out to me at all when I first saw it on Massdrop talk months ago. Two things now have covered those points: the Gaijin alphas definitely makes it look fuller to my taste, and the more pink (correct me if I'm wrong but it looks pink to my eyes) there is on this set (accent keys & novelties), the better the whole set looks to me.
Have this thread on watch now while I continue waiting for Canvas XDA to be produced ;D ;D ;D
Thanks for the thoughtful reply and feedback about the 1.25u novelties and the Carbon recycling of molds as well. I'm not a huge fan of the high voltage symbol neither, perhaps we could replace it for my version of the 笑い男 logo - which is the one you see in the lame render. The version feature tiny sausage eyes instead of ^^, I made this change hoping that the 2shot machines will accept it but if you guys really want it I'll have to confirm. As for your question, yeah the color is a pink/magenta!
PS: I'll be making a nice Canvas update soon, the legends are super good looking in real life.
The cyan and the pink are not going to look like that. They are not neon colors, they don't glow. This is not going to look like the renders, I guarantee it.
Yeah I would definitely worry about the contrast. I bought the Uniq0rn modifiers and aside from the Cyan on Purple they did not look good, very fuzzy.
Why should he have to give credit to a free online design tool?lol yeah, who cares? It's a thread format...talk about petty.
As for the IC layout, yeah, it's pretty clear he copied the format and then just changed the info but it's not like the Nautilus IC layout is protected by copyright or anything.
Just seems kind of childish to point all this out.
I for one refuse to buy a set unless it has innovative thread formatting in the IC.
Back on topic now. If I get the Hiragana alphas I can ensure my wife and kids can't use the computer. That's a win in my book.
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Looks awesome!
It's been mentioned before elsewhere but upside down crosses as novelties would be awesome (maybe for Win/Super Keys!) and tie in with the theme (see attached images).
Also was a fan of the original "Kanye" glasses novelties, don't listen to the haters they fit the theme and looked awesome!
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To the user Xondat, I'm going to suggest that you go focus on your own work instead of trying derail what others do. You are constantly seen criticizing and making fun of others in such an childish way. I feel sorry for you. One of the most toxic users I ever interacted with and I'm happy that you're not involved in my projects. Do I know you? I don't know you. I don't need to know you and I don't want to. I go out there, interact with this amazing community, design my stuff and leave it at that. You see other people's work and feel insecure or something.
You speak like anyone would care about what you have to say about this banner or format and nobody does. Zambumon was responsible for the rendering of my previous keycap set designs and he's possibly an extension of the left side of my brain. A dude that I love and one of the best friends that I met during my journey. This is the kind of people I care about - Alexey, Carlos and others. People whose names are visible in the Acknowledgments section of OP.
I won't waste my time addressing to further accusations, hate and stupidity as I know I do things the right way. My brain does not process negativity and I will remain focused on the good.
I'm going to bump this "older" comment, because I think it's becoming increasingly relevant. I'm curious how the contrasting color will look together considering they are so vibrant. Manufacturer samples would be very telling for anyone on the fence.The cyan and the pink are not going to look like that. They are not neon colors, they don't glow. This is not going to look like the renders, I guarantee it.
Yeah I would definitely worry about the contrast. I bought the Uniq0rn modifiers and aside from the Cyan on Purple they did not look good, very fuzzy.
Looks awesome!
It's been mentioned before elsewhere but upside down crosses as novelties would be awesome (maybe for Win/Super Keys!) and tie in with the theme (see attached images).
Also was a fan of the original "Kanye" glasses novelties, don't listen to the haters they fit the theme and looked awesome!
No love? :( At least it would be an easy mold!
One of the most toxic users I ever interacted with and I'm happy that you're not involved in my projects. Do I know you? I don't know you. I don't need to know you and I don't want to.
Moving forward, I'll be providing a list of things that I'm currently working on every once in a while, to keep you guys updated. Here's the first one:
- Verifying the possibility of inclusion of a 2u wide Shift keycap for the XD60 layout;
- Checking if we can manufacture our version of the Laughing Man badge without injection issues:
- Rendering the 96 layout;
- Adjusting the row of the ISO 1u |\ keycap present on the Base Kit;
- Other cool stuff, etc.
We are going to have stickers and illustrations related to the short story, that's for sure. But I had an idea the other day about stickers that I'm excited about and I think you'll enjoy it too. Some JDM vs Laser stuff. Obviously the content of the stickers would be keyboard related, but I'd like to make some automotive crossovers if possible. I'm speaking with users who have interest in this so we can create some prototypes and sketches. If you enjoy the idea, feel free to contribute with some designs as well!
For those who are interested in the Hiragana/Gaijin kit, you can always check the results on the fly - our sample size is expanding everyday and I think the poll has a relevant amount of people participating at this point. So far, the preference has been obvious but it will remain running, so we can keep checking the results and improving the kit!
At the risk of sounding like a bit of a broken record/biased here, I think it is fairly likely that people who are unsure of whether or not they'll be purchasing the Japanese alphas kit (no matter the version) are mostly voting for Gaijin as it is the most accessible; "if this version happens then maybe I can buy it" kind of thing - I wonder how sales would look like in actuality, I'd say the more "hardcore" enthusiasts who are for sure buying the JP kits are more likely to sway toward mono than secondaries but maybe I'm just biased as said.At the same time, Hiragana will appeal more to all users of all layouts other than US QWERTY. This cohort includes not only users of alternative layouts, but also users of layouts which are standard in countries other than the US. This represents not a small number of people.
At the same time, Hiragana will appeal more to all users of all layouts other than US QWERTY. This cohort includes not only users of alternative layouts, but also users of layouts which are standard in countries other than the US. This represents not a small number of people.
Moving forward, I'll be providing a list of things that I'm currently working on every once in a while, to keep you guys updated. Here's the first one:
- Verifying the possibility of inclusion of a 2u wide Shift keycap for the XD60 layout;
- Checking if we can manufacture our version of the Laughing Man badge without injection issues:
- Rendering the 96 layout;
- Adjusting the row of the ISO 1u |\ keycap present on the Base Kit;
- Other cool stuff, etc.
80s JDM. I love it. I grew up on cars so the more auto related the better :D
I used to have a s13, now driving an AP2
Some 240z love with the datsun logo would be cool, colors will be slightly off of course but the text itself is more than enough.Show Image(https://goodlogo.com/images/logos/datsun_logo_3409.gif)
Or maybe some Type R or Type S key lol
Big +1 for the XD60 support.
It's good to see that the upcoming tasks. Wish we could help somehow?
It's also a good combination for icon only modifiers since it looks very clean to begin with. Just some things to think about.
You appear to be missing the following keys; would be nice to see at least the scoops & Ctrl/Alt added in.
I'd appreciate if we could gather some more feedback about the keycaps offered in the Base Kit. Other things that I'd like you guys to voice your opinions about are -
- Convex keycaps on the ErgoPlanck kit
- Interest in scoops vs bar homing keys
- Interest in a Colevrak kit
You appear to be missing the following keys; would be nice to see at least the scoops & Ctrl/Alt added in.
Serious question, do people actually like scoops? They feel weird to me, if anything all keys where fingers rest in homing row should be scooped else it just feels weird - I've not used any sort of homing in years, are they actually useful for anyone that touch types? I taught myself to do that when I was like 10 years old so I don't personally see a point any more, very good typists I've been in contact with (mainly Sean Wrona) advocate "freestyle" typing, not only whilst clacking away but also for where your fingers rest when not; I rest mine on shift awd + kl enter and I type pretty fast, friends of mine who are even faster also have weird homing spots.
Either way this is hardly relevant and I apologise for the slight hijack, just that the past few days I've seen people asking for homing in a few discussions and I figured I'd ask someone who wants them why they're keen on them.
As for the @Vigrith and @Tang ideas, those are valid points and I noticed how the Hiragana is slightly over 50%, which means the other two options combined are around 49% approval. The idea to create another poll soon with Latin + Subs vs Monolegends would be very beneficial cause as we can clearly see the Hybrid version is the least preferred, and since a person can only (theoretically) vote once, maybe a Hybrid voter could prefer the Hiragana as well in case it wins. I will let the poll keep running for now and then we make another 1v1 poll later, with only Gaijin vs Hiragana.If you can make the changes to the ErgoPlanck kit we discussed earlier I can verify if they are correct. A Colevrak kit would be great.
As a side note, just for those who are wondering, there are many logistical benefits if we offer Hiragana only. One of them being that at least aesthetically, the Hiragana Kit could replace international and colevrak layouts since the kanas aren't exactly meaningful to what you're actually typing unless you speak Japanese. What I'm trying to say is that it could be a nice ghetto visual replacement for the Euro Kit and Colevrak Kit. It's also a good combination for icon only modifiers since it looks very clean to begin with. Just some things to think about.80s JDM. I love it. I grew up on cars so the more auto related the better :D
I used to have a s13, now driving an AP2
Some 240z love with the datsun logo would be cool, colors will be slightly off of course but the text itself is more than enough.Show Image(https://goodlogo.com/images/logos/datsun_logo_3409.gif)
Or maybe some Type R or Type S key lol
That's pretty nice dude, I'm slightly biased to Nissans and Mazdas! I think the DATSUN logo can be reassembled with a very cool sticker based on the theme we've got going on.
Big +1 for the XD60 support.
It's good to see that the upcoming tasks. Wish we could help somehow?
I'd appreciate if we could gather some more feedback about the keycaps offered in the Base Kit. Other things that I'd like you guys to voice your opinions about are -
- Convex keycaps on the ErgoPlanck kit
- Interest in scoops vs bar homing keys
- Interest in a Colevrak kit
Any kind of feedback for things we could implement or improve is always appreciated. For example, when I have some time I will be tinkering with stuff like GATISTOTLE LOGIC or maybe LATE NIGHT CLACKS combined with aesthetics designs for the crews slaps. To help you guys visualize what I'm talking about, check these accounts from Instagram and their sticker style. This is a common sticker style for japanese drifting crews and many other subcultures (at least from what I've seen). I believe there's great potential for us to develop things along these lines celebrating the Laser style + keyboard cult.
https://instagram.com/p/BFO2CaNw6eW/
https://instagram.com/p/BFxArLHEsel/
https://instagram.com/p/BGoeM2ow6Xc/
https://instagram.com/p/BGG-Fq4w6et/
You appear to be missing the following keys; would be nice to see at least the scoops & Ctrl/Alt added in.
- R3 F Scoop
- R3 J Scoop
- R3 5 Numpad Scoop
- R4 1u Ctrl
- R4 1u Alt
- R4 1u Delete
- R4 1u Pg Dn
- R3 1u Home
- R3 1.75u Stepped Control
- R4 1.25u Menu
Spacebar Kits should have the following keys to cover all known layouts (not including 40%):
- 1u
- 1.25u
1.75u2u2.25u2.75u- 3u
- 3u
- 3.25u
6.25u6.5u6.75u
Hopefully this helps you cover all the boards that a complete keyset should. If you want to know which keyboard requires the missing keys, PM me and we can talk about it!
please do not remove 2u and 2.75u spacebar as they are needed for common VE.A layout
As a side note, just for those who are wondering, there are many logistical benefits if we offer Hiragana only. One of them being that at least aesthetically, the Hiragana Kit could replace international and colevrak layouts since the kanas aren't exactly meaningful to what you're actually typing unless you speak Japanese. What I'm trying to say is that it could be a nice ghetto visual replacement for the Euro Kit and Colevrak Kit. It's also a good combination for icon only modifiers since it looks very clean to begin with. Just some things to think about.
I'd appreciate if we could gather some more feedback about the keycaps offered in the Base Kit. Other things that I'd like you guys to voice your opinions about are -
- Convex keycaps on the ErgoPlanck kit
- Interest in scoops vs bar homing keys
- Interest in a Colevrak kit
As a side note, just for those who are wondering, there are many logistical benefits if we offer Hiragana only. One of them being that at least aesthetically, the Hiragana Kit could replace international and colevrak layouts since the kanas aren't exactly meaningful to what you're actually typing unless you speak Japanese. What I'm trying to say is that it could be a nice ghetto visual replacement for the Euro Kit and Colevrak Kit. It's also a good combination for icon only modifiers since it looks very clean to begin with. Just some things to think about.
I'd appreciate if we could gather some more feedback about the keycaps offered in the Base Kit. Other things that I'd like you guys to voice your opinions about are -
- Convex keycaps on the ErgoPlanck kit
- Interest in scoops vs bar homing keys
- Interest in a Colevrak kit
I was gonna say I'd probably go for Hiragana if there's no Colemak option for the exact reason you've posted. The fact is, I'd buy both if they're available. One extra thing I'd love to see in a Colevrak kit is a backspace key to replace capslock.
80s JDM. I love it. I grew up on cars so the more auto related the better :D
I used to have a s13, now driving an AP2
Some 240z love with the datsun logo would be cool, colors will be slightly off of course but the text itself is more than enough.Show Image(https://goodlogo.com/images/logos/datsun_logo_3409.gif)
Or maybe some Type R or Type S key lol
That's pretty nice dude, I'm slightly biased to Nissans and Mazdas! I think the DATSUN logo can be reassembled with a very cool sticker based on the theme we've got going on.
Big +1 for the XD60 support.
It's good to see that the upcoming tasks. Wish we could help somehow?
Serious question, do people actually like scoops? They feel weird to me, if anything all keys where fingers rest in homing row should be scooped else it just feels weird - I've not used any sort of homing in years, are they actually useful for anyone that touch types? I taught myself to do that when I was like 10 years old so I don't personally see a point any more, very good typists I've been in contact with (mainly Sean Wrona) advocate "freestyle" typing, not only whilst clacking away but also for where your fingers rest when not; I rest mine on shift awd + kl enter and I type pretty fast, friends of mine who are even faster also have weird homing spots.
- Convex keycaps on the ErgoPlanck kit
- Interest in scoops vs bar homing keys
- Interest in a Colevrak kit
Given GMK's price of $300 (last I heard) per 1u key I'd say offering both is highly unlikely to warrant the costs but you never know with these sets nowadays, more and more people get into the buys every day so maybe it's not even as far fetched as one would think - still, 13 grand per kit would most definitely be pushing it too hard in my mind.Yeah, I'm really fine either way, I like the normal latin alphas just fine and depending on how the kits break down I may stick with those. I'm in on this set either way, would just prefer a modifiers kit and then separate alpha options with Gaijin as an option personally.
bars are like training wheels for people learning to touch type
bars are like training wheels for people learning to touch type
Hey now! Some of us like our training wheels!
bars are like training wheels for people learning to touch type
Hey now! Some of us like our training wheels!
:)) honestly, i dont know why both aren't typically offered with custom sets these days. i have a preference, but i think this whole argument is just ridiculous rabble that comes up every time
bars are like training wheels for people learning to touch type
Hey now! Some of us like our training wheels!
:)) honestly, i dont know why both aren't typically offered with custom sets these days. i have a preference, but i think this whole argument is just ridiculous rabble that comes up every time
bars are like training wheels for people learning to touch type
Hey now! Some of us like our training wheels!
:)) honestly, i dont know why both aren't typically offered with custom sets these days. i have a preference, but i think this whole argument is just ridiculous rabble that comes up every time
That's exactly why I posted it :eek:
Shame about the other key suggestions which are going ignored.
bars are like training wheels for people learning to touch type
bars are like training wheels for people learning to touch type
Scoops are for people who require a head wand.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MsboinH.jpg)
Love the idea for incorporating some of the JDM car culture! I will selfishly throw in a vote for some Suabaru love.
The 22b STI isn't from the 80's, but it's the most iconic earlier Subaru (early 90's): https://icdn-2.motor1.com/images/mgl/kmgJR/s1/1998-subaru-impreza-22b-sti.jpg
The Subaru logo: http://www.carlogos.org/logo/Subaru-logo-2001-2560x1440.png
STI: http://cartype.com/pics/104/small/sti_logo_1.jpg
Love the idea for incorporating some of the JDM car culture! I will selfishly throw in a vote for some Suabaru love.
The 22b STI isn't from the 80's, but it's the most iconic earlier Subaru (early 90's): https://icdn-2.motor1.com/images/mgl/kmgJR/s1/1998-subaru-impreza-22b-sti.jpg
The Subaru logo: http://www.carlogos.org/logo/Subaru-logo-2001-2560x1440.png
STI: http://cartype.com/pics/104/small/sti_logo_1.jpg
I'm not sure it'd fit the style of the set, but I do love the 22b.
Love the idea for incorporating some of the JDM car culture! I will selfishly throw in a vote for some Suabaru love.
The 22b STI isn't from the 80's, but it's the most iconic earlier Subaru (early 90's): https://icdn-2.motor1.com/images/mgl/kmgJR/s1/1998-subaru-impreza-22b-sti.jpg
The Subaru logo: http://www.carlogos.org/logo/Subaru-logo-2001-2560x1440.png
STI: http://cartype.com/pics/104/small/sti_logo_1.jpg
I'm not sure it'd fit the style of the set, but I do love the 22b.
I own a 2.5rs, and I love the 22b... but I'm not sure how cars fit the cyberpunk theme :-\ the deloreon was a stretch, IMO
Or Omni Consumer Products
Love the idea for incorporating some of the JDM car culture! I will selfishly throw in a vote for some Suabaru love.
The 22b STI isn't from the 80's, but it's the most iconic earlier Subaru (early 90's): https://icdn-2.motor1.com/images/mgl/kmgJR/s1/1998-subaru-impreza-22b-sti.jpg
The Subaru logo: http://www.carlogos.org/logo/Subaru-logo-2001-2560x1440.png
STI: http://cartype.com/pics/104/small/sti_logo_1.jpg
I'm not sure it'd fit the style of the set, but I do love the 22b.
I own a 2.5rs, and I love the 22b... but I'm not sure how cars fit the cyberpunk theme :-\ the deloreon was a stretch, IMO
Given GMK's price of $300 (last I heard) per 1u key I'd say offering both is highly unlikely to warrant the costs but you never know with these sets nowadays, more and more people get into the buys every day so maybe it's not even as far fetched as one would think - still, 13 grand per kit would most definitely be pushing it too hard in my mind.
or Weyland Corp.Show Image(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/0/0c/Weyland_Corporation_Logo.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141113110740)
Given GMK's price of $300 (last I heard) per 1u key I'd say offering both is highly unlikely to warrant the costs but you never know with these sets nowadays, more and more people get into the buys every day so maybe it's not even as far fetched as one would think - still, 13 grand per kit would most definitely be pushing it too hard in my mind.
Wait soo the price for this set could reach up to $300? Oh wow
or Weyland Corp.Show Image(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/0/0c/Weyland_Corporation_Logo.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141113110740)
I'd be so in for a Weyland Yutani keycap.Given GMK's price of $300 (last I heard) per 1u key I'd say offering both is highly unlikely to warrant the costs but you never know with these sets nowadays, more and more people get into the buys every day so maybe it's not even as far fetched as one would think - still, 13 grand per kit would most definitely be pushing it too hard in my mind.
Wait soo the price for this set could reach up to $300? Oh wow
It's possible, but the $300 is how much GMK charges for a new 1u key mold.
or Weyland Corp.Show Image(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/0/0c/Weyland_Corporation_Logo.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141113110740)
I'd be so in for a Weyland Yutani keycap.Given GMK's price of $300 (last I heard) per 1u key I'd say offering both is highly unlikely to warrant the costs but you never know with these sets nowadays, more and more people get into the buys every day so maybe it's not even as far fetched as one would think - still, 13 grand per kit would most definitely be pushing it too hard in my mind.
Wait soo the price for this set could reach up to $300? Oh wow
It's possible, but the $300 is how much GMK charges for a new 1u key mold.
Ahh I thought is was $50 per mold?
Yeah I don't think we really need more in the way of novelties, was just throwing that stuff in for consideration on the sticker stuff he's looking into. Personally, I think there's plenty of novelties now and adding more is just going to make the kit more expensive than it needs to be. There's a point where you're just trying to get too much in there to make everyone happy.Love the idea for incorporating some of the JDM car culture! I will selfishly throw in a vote for some Suabaru love.
The 22b STI isn't from the 80's, but it's the most iconic earlier Subaru (early 90's): https://icdn-2.motor1.com/images/mgl/kmgJR/s1/1998-subaru-impreza-22b-sti.jpg
The Subaru logo: http://www.carlogos.org/logo/Subaru-logo-2001-2560x1440.png
STI: http://cartype.com/pics/104/small/sti_logo_1.jpg
I'm not sure it'd fit the style of the set, but I do love the 22b.
I own a 2.5rs, and I love the 22b... but I'm not sure how cars fit the cyberpunk theme :-\ the deloreon was a stretch, IMO
The one car that I think needs to be more highlighted in this set is the Trueno AE86. It certainly fits with this set!
Yeah I don't think we really need more in the way of novelties, was just throwing that stuff in for consideration on the sticker stuff he's looking into. Personally, I think there's plenty of novelties now and adding more is just going to make the kit more expensive than it needs to be. There's a point where you're just trying to get too much in there to make everyone happy.
Still eagerly waiting for this set and glad we can discuss it again!
How is a bowl & chopstics less fitting than something from robocop. The only cop that belongs in this set is Triceracop... or maybe Time Cop.
How is a bowl & chopstics less fitting than something from robocop. The only cop that belongs in this set is Triceracop... or maybe Time Cop.
Well I would argue Robocop was far more of a cultural icon than a generic bowl & chopsticks. Triceracop is a modern invention, and if this set (as it should IMO) hearkens to 80's culture then anything which is just 'new' 80's style/theme but not actually from that era doesn't really belong, as it simply muddies the waters. That's not to say these suggestions don't look good, I just think this set needs to decide what it is.
How is a bowl & chopstics less fitting than something from robocop. The only cop that belongs in this set is Triceracop... or maybe Time Cop.
Well I would argue Robocop was far more of a cultural icon than a generic bowl & chopsticks. Triceracop is a modern invention, and if this set (as it should IMO) hearkens to 80's culture then anything which is just 'new' 80's style/theme but not actually from that era doesn't really belong, as it simply muddies the waters. That's not to say these suggestions don't look good, I just think this set needs to decide what it is.
While I do love robocop, there's nothing very "cyberpunk" about it. The bowl and chopsticks, on the other hand, is arguably the most thematically appropriate icon in the whole set. Not only does it hit the Japanese note for obvious reasons, it's also a Blade Runner reference. If this were simply an 80s set, an OCP logo would be a no brainer. I agree regarding triceracop though, which is why I'm also of the same mind when it comes to the Stranger Things reference. They both take a bit away from the authenticity.
or Weyland Corp.Show Image(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/0/0c/Weyland_Corporation_Logo.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141113110740)
I'd be so in for a Weyland Yutani keycap.Given GMK's price of $300 (last I heard) per 1u key I'd say offering both is highly unlikely to warrant the costs but you never know with these sets nowadays, more and more people get into the buys every day so maybe it's not even as far fetched as one would think - still, 13 grand per kit would most definitely be pushing it too hard in my mind.
Wait soo the price for this set could reach up to $300? Oh wow
It's possible, but the $300 is how much GMK charges for a new 1u key mold.
Ahh I thought is was $50 per mold?
How is a bowl & chopstics less fitting than something from robocop. The only cop that belongs in this set is Triceracop... or maybe Time Cop.
Well I would argue Robocop was far more of a cultural icon than a generic bowl & chopsticks. Triceracop is a modern invention, and if this set (as it should IMO) hearkens to 80's culture then anything which is just 'new' 80's style/theme but not actually from that era doesn't really belong, as it simply muddies the waters. That's not to say these suggestions don't look good, I just think this set needs to decide what it is.
While I do love robocop, there's nothing very "cyberpunk" about it. The bowl and chopsticks, on the other hand, is arguably the most thematically appropriate icon in the whole set. Not only does it hit the Japanese note for obvious reasons, it's also a Blade Runner reference. If this were simply an 80s set, an OCP logo would be a no brainer. I agree regarding triceracop though, which is why I'm also of the same mind when it comes to the Stranger Things reference. They both take a bit away from the authenticity.
That is valid on the chopsticks, I hadn't thought of that. Robocop is quintessential 80's though, and I'd argue it has MANY cyberpunk elements.
Kaneda jacket pill!
I was thinking the same thing. Anyway, can't remember if it's been suggested already but how about a Tyrell Corporation logo cap?
I was thinking the same thing. Anyway, can't remember if it's been suggested already but how about a Tyrell Corporation logo cap?
AFAIK, it wasn't present in the movie, so it's just some fan stuff. The snapshot of the owl itself from the movie would be hard to reproduce IMO.
Same thing with Maas, Hosaka and T-A: there're no "official" logos for this iconic corporations.
I was thinking the same thing. Anyway, can't remember if it's been suggested already but how about a Tyrell Corporation logo cap?
AFAIK, it wasn't present in the movie, so it's just some fan stuff. The snapshot of the owl itself from the movie would be hard to reproduce IMO.
Same thing with Maas, Hosaka and T-A: there're no "official" logos for this iconic corporations.
Yeah I wasn't sure either, but it turns out it's legit. Check it out: http://propsummit.com/viewtopic.php?t=774
I think the film Dune is missing a novelty opportunity, but what?Well, that's a controversial thing here with Dune.
I think the film Dune is missing a novelty opportunity, but what?Well, that's a controversial thing here with Dune.
The movie is totally 80s, but the whole described Dune universe is absolutely opposite to any cyberpunk: the main event that defined Dune universe was Butlerian Jihad after all and little is know about computer-assisted life before it.
I also left you guys sort of clueless when I mentioned JDM slaps, apparently you didn't understand the concept so you can see some mockups of what I'm talking about below. The idea isn't to celebrate cars or the JMD culture, these things obviously have nothing to do with the keycap set. What I want to do is simply borrow the JDM slap concept so we can have community made outrun/cyberpunk slaps in the same style (rectangular shape, a short funny phrase or words with symbols and colors). I encourage everyone to tinker with ideas and share possible designs in this thread, so we can select nice ones and get them made. I also made some vaporwave ones (GATISTOTLE LOGIC) but my PC crashed and I lost the designs. I will try to repeat that later if there's any interest. For now, you can see the cyberpunk/outrun ones that I came up with and the renders I previously mentioned as well:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L3si6mU.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fm9JxpY.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rCdlwpm.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h3zyBiP.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0QBlsgi.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M2GIMnM.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Lh9uaxB.png)
I also made some vaporwave ones (GATISTOTLE LOGIC) but my PC crashed and I lost the designs. I will try to repeat that later if there's any interest.
I also made some vaporwave ones (GATISTOTLE LOGIC) but my PC crashed and I lost the designs. I will try to repeat that later if there's any interest.
Yes! Of course! Always down for more VAPORWAVE!
While I'm waiting on a couple e-mails to be answered, I'll be working on a replacement so we can have the Akira pill for the Novelties (will most likely swap for the skull). I managed to render the 96 layout as requested and updated the Base Kit which now includes bars and scoop F,J and 5 keycaps. For those who asked, I'm personally a fan of bars and this is why they were included to begin with. But I see that some people prefer the scoops so I think it's reasonable to include them. We won't have non-referenced keycaps though, I think that would be a waste. People seem to either use bars or scoops, so six wasted keycaps make no sense. I also fixed the ISO 1u |\ which was supposed to be R4 since day one (rendering mistake from my part).
I also left you guys sort of clueless when I mentioned JDM slaps, apparently you didn't understand the concept so you can see some mockups of what I'm talking about below. The idea isn't to celebrate cars or the JMD culture, these things obviously have nothing to do with the keycap set. What I want to do is simply borrow the JDM slap concept so we can have community made outrun/cyberpunk slaps in the same style (rectangular shape, a short funny phrase or words with symbols and colors). I encourage everyone to tinker with ideas and share possible designs in this thread, so we can select nice ones and get them made. I also made some vaporwave ones (GATISTOTLE LOGIC) but my PC crashed and I lost the designs. I will try to repeat that later if there's any interest. For now, you can see the cyberpunk/outrun ones that I came up with and the renders I previously mentioned as well:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L3si6mU.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fm9JxpY.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rCdlwpm.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h3zyBiP.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0QBlsgi.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M2GIMnM.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Lh9uaxB.png)
Also, I saw Guardians 2 this weekend (It was great, go see it!) and the theater had a poster for it that felt very much in the theme of this set: http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-imax-poster.jpg Obviously don't imagine we' incorporate anything from it here, just wanted to share.
While I'm waiting on a couple e-mails to be answered, I'll be working on a replacement so we can have the Akira pill for the Novelties (will most likely swap for the skull). I managed to render the 96 layout as requested and updated the Base Kit which now includes bars and scoop F,J and 5 keycaps. For those who asked, I'm personally a fan of bars and this is why they were included to begin with. But I see that some people prefer the scoops so I think it's reasonable to include them. We won't have non-referenced keycaps though, I think that would be a waste. People seem to either use bars or scoops, so six wasted keycaps make no sense. I also fixed the ISO 1u |\ which was supposed to be R4 since day one (rendering mistake from my part).
I also left you guys sort of clueless when I mentioned JDM slaps, apparently you didn't understand the concept so you can see some mockups of what I'm talking about below. The idea isn't to celebrate cars or the JMD culture, these things obviously have nothing to do with the keycap set. What I want to do is simply borrow the JDM slap concept so we can have community made outrun/cyberpunk slaps in the same style (rectangular shape, a short funny phrase or words with symbols and colors). I encourage everyone to tinker with ideas and share possible designs in this thread, so we can select nice ones and get them made. I also made some vaporwave ones (GATISTOTLE LOGIC) but my PC crashed and I lost the designs. I will try to repeat that later if there's any interest. For now, you can see the cyberpunk/outrun ones that I came up with and the renders I previously mentioned as well:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/L3si6mU.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fm9JxpY.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rCdlwpm.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/h3zyBiP.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0QBlsgi.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/M2GIMnM.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Lh9uaxB.png)
Ah, the sticker stuff makes way more sense now, I love the idea and I'll try to find some time to mess with some ideas!
It looks so good in the 96 layout! The different colors for the mods vs. alphas is great on that layout because it's different enough to break up the sections visually but subtle enough that the mass of keys doesn't look too contrasty.
Also, I saw Guardians 2 this weekend (It was great, go see it!) and the theater had a poster for it that felt very much in the theme of this set: http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-imax-poster.jpg Obviously don't imagine we' incorporate anything from it here, just wanted to share.
Bars please!
I'm a touch typist but as much as I try, I can't seem to home on scoops.
I'm excited about this set but I'm getting worried that I won't be able to scrape the cash together in time.
Any word on an ETA?
On the massdrop page, MiTo said sometime around Q2. However, Q2 is already full of GBs as far as I know, as GMK Yuri is confirmed for this month, and GMK Nautilus is confirmed for June. I doubt massdrop would do more than 1 GMK set a month, so July would be the earliest I would expect to see this. But, it could be even later, as there have been rumblings of other sets like SNES in the pipeline.
On the massdrop page, MiTo said sometime around Q2. However, Q2 is already full of GBs as far as I know, as GMK Yuri is confirmed for this month, and GMK Nautilus is confirmed for June. I doubt massdrop would do more than 1 GMK set a month, so July would be the earliest I would expect to see this. But, it could be even later, as there have been rumblings of other sets like SNES in the pipeline.
WHO is rumbling about SNES? that project has been on life support for a year and a half. i hope it does happen, but intelli has not been active on this site since march... if there is movement somewhere else, i would love to get in on it
On the massdrop page, MiTo said sometime around Q2. However, Q2 is already full of GBs as far as I know, as GMK Yuri is confirmed for this month, and GMK Nautilus is confirmed for June. I doubt massdrop would do more than 1 GMK set a month, so July would be the earliest I would expect to see this. But, it could be even later, as there have been rumblings of other sets like SNES in the pipeline.
WHO is rumbling about SNES? that project has been on life support for a year and a half. i hope it does happen, but intelli has not been active on this site since march... if there is movement somewhere else, i would love to get in on it
admittedly, I have not been following SNES too closely. People were talking about it dropping this year in the GMK Yuri IC. That being said, it was all 3rd party sources, and not directly from intelli. Sorry for any confusion, I haven't been paying much attention to that set and just assumed the other folks who were more invested in it were correct in stating it would be coming soonish.
On the massdrop page, MiTo said sometime around Q2. However, Q2 is already full of GBs as far as I know, as GMK Yuri is confirmed for this month, and GMK Nautilus is confirmed for June. I doubt massdrop would do more than 1 GMK set a month, so July would be the earliest I would expect to see this. But, it could be even later, as there have been rumblings of other sets like SNES in the pipeline.
WHO is rumbling about SNES? that project has been on life support for a year and a half. i hope it does happen, but intelli has not been active on this site since march... if there is movement somewhere else, i would love to get in on it
admittedly, I have not been following SNES too closely. People were talking about it dropping this year in the GMK Yuri IC. That being said, it was all 3rd party sources, and not directly from intelli. Sorry for any confusion, I haven't been paying much attention to that set and just assumed the other folks who were more invested in it were correct in stating it would be coming soonish.
On the massdrop page, MiTo said sometime around Q2. However, Q2 is already full of GBs as far as I know, as GMK Yuri is confirmed for this month, and GMK Nautilus is confirmed for June. I doubt massdrop would do more than 1 GMK set a month, so July would be the earliest I would expect to see this. But, it could be even later, as there have been rumblings of other sets like SNES in the pipeline.
WHO is rumbling about SNES? that project has been on life support for a year and a half. i hope it does happen, but intelli has not been active on this site since march... if there is movement somewhere else, i would love to get in on it
admittedly, I have not been following SNES too closely. People were talking about it dropping this year in the GMK Yuri IC. That being said, it was all 3rd party sources, and not directly from intelli. Sorry for any confusion, I haven't been paying much attention to that set and just assumed the other folks who were more invested in it were correct in stating it would be coming soonish.
Actually, intelli himself (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74182.msg2359177#msg2359177) was the one who said Q2. That said, not super promising given that he hasn't been here for a couple months.
1) Bars > Scoops
2) The slaps are a great idea! Are they going to be decals or 'bumper sticker' esc.
3) Have you heard anything about pricing yet? Something tells me this'll be a doozy.
I don't see why this would be any more than normal GMK sets? The novelty pack might be slightly more since there's more in there than normal.The hiragana set needs new molds for 47 keys, and those molds are $300 each.
I don't see why this would be any more than normal GMK sets? The novelty pack might be slightly more since there's more in there than normal.The hiragana set needs new molds for 47 keys, and those molds are $300 each.
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Yuri should drop soon and it also has a full alpha replacement kit. I imagine these will be about the same price wise.I don't see why this would be any more than normal GMK sets? The novelty pack might be slightly more since there's more in there than normal.The hiragana set needs new molds for 47 keys, and those molds are $300 each.
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I don't see why this would be any more than normal GMK sets? The novelty pack might be slightly more since there's more in there than normal.The hiragana set needs new molds for 47 keys, and those molds are $300 each.
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It's official then. Laser GMK will cost $20,000+.
I don't see why this would be any more than normal GMK sets? The novelty pack might be slightly more since there's more in there than normal.The hiragana set needs new molds for 47 keys, and those molds are $300 each.
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It's official then. Laser GMK will cost $20,000+.
It actually isn't that bad if you think about it. 47 molds at $300 per mold comes to $14100. Assuming the MoQ of the Hiragana set is 250, then the cost of the mold being split across 250 sets means each Hiragana set would be $56.40 more than a regular set of alphas.
Looking at past sets MiTo has run, there has been a very high number sold. If this set sells similar numbers, then we should be ok. Running in through MD should give them more buying power as well since they run so many GMK sets I would imagine.I don't see why this would be any more than normal GMK sets? The novelty pack might be slightly more since there's more in there than normal.The hiragana set needs new molds for 47 keys, and those molds are $300 each.
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It's official then. Laser GMK will cost $20,000+.
It actually isn't that bad if you think about it. 47 molds at $300 per mold comes to $14100. Assuming the MoQ of the Hiragana set is 250, then the cost of the mold being split across 250 sets means each Hiragana set would be $56.40 more than a regular set of alphas.
I'd hope given the buzz surrounding this they will far exceed the MoQ, which could bring price down?
Looking at past sets MiTo has run, there has been a very high number sold. If this set sells similar numbers, then we should be ok. Running in through MD should give them more buying power as well since they run so many GMK sets I would imagine.
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Looking at past sets MiTo has run, there has been a very high number sold. If this set sells similar numbers, then we should be ok. Running in through MD should give them more buying power as well since they run so many GMK sets I would imagine.
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On the other hand, on the massdrop page MiTo said he expects Hiragana+ergoplanck to be cheaper than base+ergoplanck (statement bolded to encourage all of my ortholinear brothers and sisters to get in on the Hiragana kit). So if a lot of planck/preionic/ergodox users get in on laser the sales would be driven up a bit.
I wonder if the kits could end up getting broken down to mods/latin alphas/hiragana alphas/novelties/all the other sub kits so people could more affordably get the Hiragana legends.
Looking at past sets MiTo has run, there has been a very high number sold. If this set sells similar numbers, then we should be ok. Running in through MD should give them more buying power as well since they run so many GMK sets I would imagine.
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Definitely, if the Hiragana alphas hit 1000 orders for instance, then we are talking around an extra $15 or so per order to cover the new molds, which isn't bad at all. The only thing that worries me is that the Hiragana alphas aren't a standalone kit; if you want to put the Japanese alphas on a standard layout board, you also have to purchase the base kit to get the modifier keys. This could bring sales down a bit.
On the other hand, on the massdrop page MiTo said he expects Hiragana+ergoplanck to be cheaper than base+ergoplanck (statement bolded to encourage all of my ortholinear brothers and sisters to get in on the Hiragana kit). So if a lot of planck/preionic/ergodox users get in on laser the sales would be driven up a bit.
With these competing factors, it seems hard to forecast how well the Hiragana alphas will do. I am planning on ordering them no matter what, b/c I love the legends and getting these molds done means more Hiragana sets could be made in the future at the regular GMK prices. I really really want these to get made :P
Ive asked before, but I'm not sure we'll see that happen for GMK sets. It would unfortunately increase the cost for most (mods/Latin characters), and usually people aren't very receptive to that with GMK sets (just my view though).I wonder if the kits could end up getting broken down to mods/latin alphas/hiragana alphas/novelties/all the other sub kits so people could more affordably get the Hiragana legends.
Looking at past sets MiTo has run, there has been a very high number sold. If this set sells similar numbers, then we should be ok. Running in through MD should give them more buying power as well since they run so many GMK sets I would imagine.
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Definitely, if the Hiragana alphas hit 1000 orders for instance, then we are talking around an extra $15 or so per order to cover the new molds, which isn't bad at all. The only thing that worries me is that the Hiragana alphas aren't a standalone kit; if you want to put the Japanese alphas on a standard layout board, you also have to purchase the base kit to get the modifier keys. This could bring sales down a bit.
On the other hand, on the massdrop page MiTo said he expects Hiragana+ergoplanck to be cheaper than base+ergoplanck (statement bolded to encourage all of my ortholinear brothers and sisters to get in on the Hiragana kit). So if a lot of planck/preionic/ergodox users get in on laser the sales would be driven up a bit.
With these competing factors, it seems hard to forecast how well the Hiragana alphas will do. I am planning on ordering them no matter what, b/c I love the legends and getting these molds done means more Hiragana sets could be made in the future at the regular GMK prices. I really really want these to get made
Ive asked before, but I'm not sure we'll see that happen for GMK sets. It would unfortunately increase the cost for most (mods/Latin characters), and usually people aren't very receptive to that with GMK sets (just my view though).I wonder if the kits could end up getting broken down to mods/latin alphas/hiragana alphas/novelties/all the other sub kits so people could more affordably get the Hiragana legends.
Looking at past sets MiTo has run, there has been a very high number sold. If this set sells similar numbers, then we should be ok. Running in through MD should give them more buying power as well since they run so many GMK sets I would imagine.
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Definitely, if the Hiragana alphas hit 1000 orders for instance, then we are talking around an extra $15 or so per order to cover the new molds, which isn't bad at all. The only thing that worries me is that the Hiragana alphas aren't a standalone kit; if you want to put the Japanese alphas on a standard layout board, you also have to purchase the base kit to get the modifier keys. This could bring sales down a bit.
On the other hand, on the massdrop page MiTo said he expects Hiragana+ergoplanck to be cheaper than base+ergoplanck (statement bolded to encourage all of my ortholinear brothers and sisters to get in on the Hiragana kit). So if a lot of planck/preionic/ergodox users get in on laser the sales would be driven up a bit.
With these competing factors, it seems hard to forecast how well the Hiragana alphas will do. I am planning on ordering them no matter what, b/c I love the legends and getting these molds done means more Hiragana sets could be made in the future at the regular GMK prices. I really really want these to get made
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Do my eyes decieve me or has Hiragana overtaken Gaijin in the poll?
Excellent!
I hope it wasn't vote manip.
Do my eyes decieve me or has Hiragana overtaken Gaijin in the poll?
Excellent!
I hope it wasn't vote manip.
A lot less casual users will buy the hiragana. The same crowd that doesn't post on GH or respond to these surveys. To please enthusiasts, go with Hiragana. To sell more sets, go with Gaijin.
Hiragana would also please ISO users like myself as Gaijin would leave us with incorrect legends for which no replacement or substitute exists.
I'm aware it will be zero percent to have both, was just saying, haha. If it did come to it, I just saw it as having both would be better sense to me. Price isn't going to please everyone already, but at least you'll get what you want.
I'll still get whichever wins. I feel both kits has been done nicely.
I just don't see why not many picked Hybrid. It looks good in my view. Has a nice balance of both if people are concerned with correct legends to assist them with typing.
I think Hybrid feels a bit unbalanced since the keys don't have 'equal' legends on them
Hiragana would also please ISO users like myself as Gaijin would leave us with incorrect legends for which no replacement or substitute exists.
I don't quite see how it would affect you as I'm pretty sure most of us or 99% of us only grabbing it for aesthetics. So correct or non-correct Latin legends wouldn't even matter; especially if you're touch typing.
Well... I guess the upside if Gaijin does not happen is I will save some money
I prefer the look of gaijin over everything else also. :>Well... I guess the upside if Gaijin does not happen is I will save some money
Do you actually need the latin legends or do you just prefer the aesthetic of Gaijin? I'm genuinely curious because I know how much into this set you are, I have a hard time imagining anyone actually preferring the looks of Gaijin over Hiragana mono but that might just be me!
All good points for sure. I just feel like if you're going for aesthetics and the alternate alphas, go for the cleanest looking set, otherwise just stick with the already clean looking Latin legends.
Either kit will sell well I'm sure. The Hiragana set is pretty much Blanks anyways. All three kits are pretty much straight ANSI layouts, so adding 2/3 Hiragana keys for ISO and split backspace will level the compatibility.
Gaijin can be refined by removing the uppercase characters and leaving just the numbers to even it for most users if regional concerns matter to people.
A poll/questionnaire asking how much one will pay may help gauge a realistic price a user will pay for the kit. It'll likely range around 50-60+ for the kit. The Base is already about 130+ and novelties is in line with the Jap kit.
A poll/questionnaire asking how much one will pay may help gauge a realistic price a user will pay for the kit. It'll likely range around 50-60+ for the kit. The Base is already about 130+ and novelties is in line with the Jap kit.
How did you come up with this price range (50-60 for Japanese alphas)? I expected the kit to be much more expensive than that...
The set needs 47 new molds (if I counted correctly) at $300 per mold, so $14100 for all the molds to be made. Assuming an initial MoQ of 250, splitting the cost of the new molds comes out to 14100/250 = $56.40 per sale. So, I was expecting the Japanese alpha kit to cost 50-60 more per set than a standard alpha set for which molds already exist. This would put the cost of the Hiragana alphas right around what the base set costs. Is this not how GMK sets pricing? I will definitely buy the set either way, b/c I "need" it, but I would be thrilled if it was only $50-60.
How did you come up with this price range (50-60 for Japanese alphas)? I expected the kit to be much more expensive than that...
The set needs 47 new molds (if I counted correctly) at $300 per mold, so $14100 for all the molds to be made. Assuming an initial MoQ of 250, splitting the cost of the new molds comes out to 14100/250 = $56.40 per sale. So, I was expecting the Japanese alpha kit to cost 50-60 more per set than a standard alpha set for which molds already exist. This would put the cost of the Hiragana alphas right around what the base set costs. Is this not how GMK sets pricing? I will definitely buy the set either way, b/c I "need" it, but I would be thrilled if it was only $50-60.
I never said its set in stone to be 50-60. I said 50-60+(plus), meaning it can be more because the price isn't quite clear yet and the kit is possible to include 1-3 more keys for compatibility purposes. It is just a realistic price estimate with many things taken into account.
Well... I guess the upside if Gaijin does not happen is I will save some money
Do you actually need the latin legends or do you just prefer the aesthetic of Gaijin? I'm genuinely curious because I know how much into this set you are, I have a hard time imagining anyone actually preferring the looks of Gaijin over Hiragana mono but that might just be me!
Well... I guess the upside if Gaijin does not happen is I will save some money
Do you actually need the latin legends or do you just prefer the aesthetic of Gaijin? I'm genuinely curious because I know how much into this set you are, I have a hard time imagining anyone actually preferring the looks of Gaijin over Hiragana mono but that might just be me!
I am too, prefer Gaijin over Hiragana. This set, to me, screams cray-cray with the wild, flashy colours and boatloads of novelties. The mono legends (Latin or Hiragana) just seems lackluster to me somehow. The Gaijin with both legends will appear too crowded to many but I actually embrace it.
Well... I guess the upside if Gaijin does not happen is I will save some money
Do you actually need the latin legends or do you just prefer the aesthetic of Gaijin? I'm genuinely curious because I know how much into this set you are, I have a hard time imagining anyone actually preferring the looks of Gaijin over Hiragana mono but that might just be me!
I am too, prefer Gaijin over Hiragana. This set, to me, screams cray-cray with the wild, flashy colours and boatloads of novelties. The mono legends (Latin or Hiragana) just seems lackluster to me somehow. The Gaijin with both legends will appear too crowded to many but I actually embrace it.
I also favour the busy look of Gaijin. I think it fits the aesthetic of the set the best and it makes the mono legend sets seem disappointing in comparison.Yeah, I think the Gaijin plays into the theme nicely. Cyberpunk (to me) has always been a bit chaotic and usually involves the mashup if western and eastern cultures so I think the double legend layout plays into that better than the mono legend options.
I also favour the busy look of Gaijin. I think it fits the aesthetic of the set the best and it makes the mono legend sets seem disappointing in comparison.Yeah, I think the Gaijin plays into the theme nicely. Cyberpunk (to me) has always been a bit chaotic and usually involves the mashup if western and eastern cultures so I think the double legend layout plays into that better than the mono legend options.
I also favour the busy look of Gaijin. I think it fits the aesthetic of the set the best and it makes the mono legend sets seem disappointing in comparison.Yeah, I think the Gaijin plays into the theme nicely. Cyberpunk (to me) has always been a bit chaotic and usually involves the mashup if western and eastern cultures so I think the double legend layout plays into that better than the mono legend options.
Hiragana and Gajin both have their appeal. I voted for gajin because of the busy and chaotic nature, but I will get whatever wins and will be happy with it
I'd love to know how many people who are interested in this set are interested in the Japanese legends. The last few pages seem to have been nothing but chatter about the Hiragana and Gaijin kits. Then again I don't know of many sets that look this good _and_ have the option of doubleshot Japanese legends (everything else being dye-subbed). Still, I love data so a strawpoll would be interesting.
I'd love to know how many people who are interested in this set are interested in the Japanese legends. The last few pages seem to have been nothing but chatter about the Hiragana and Gaijin kits. Then again I don't know of many sets that look this good _and_ have the option of doubleshot Japanese legends (everything else being dye-subbed). Still, I love data so a strawpoll would be interesting.I'd say that moon runes are a better description for the gaijin set, seeing how they aren't compatible with any standard japanese layout. Hiragana could be used with the addition of 3(?) keys.
I personally prefer the look of Gaijin, and I know that the other people in my household would complain bitterly if I used Hiragana, so I wouldn't think about buying that kit. My wallet would thank me, though, and I'd be happy with the base kit and novelties alone, so I wouldn't be too sad about it.Yeah this is pretty much where I'm at too.
I personally prefer the look of Gaijin, and I know that the other people in my household would complain bitterly if I used Hiragana, so I wouldn't think about buying that kit. My wallet would thank me, though, and I'd be happy with the base kit and novelties alone, so I wouldn't be too sad about it.
Some of us have computers that are used by people other than ourselves at times. My wife uses my computer and while she's also mostly a touch typist, she doesn't like blank keys, especially if the board has a unique layout (I will be putting this set on a 96key board, not terrible nonstandard, but different enough). I also prefer to have legends for the rare occurrence that I need to look down for a key, it's just personal preference.I personally prefer the look of Gaijin, and I know that the other people in my household would complain bitterly if I used Hiragana, so I wouldn't think about buying that kit. My wallet would thank me, though, and I'd be happy with the base kit and novelties alone, so I wouldn't be too sad about it.
Are you buying the kit for the family to use? If not, I can't see why anyone would want to make any bitter complaints.
I personally prefer the look of Gaijin, and I know that the other people in my household would complain bitterly if I used Hiragana, so I wouldn't think about buying that kit. My wallet would thank me, though, and I'd be happy with the base kit and novelties alone, so I wouldn't be too sad about it.
Are you buying the kit for the family to use? If not, I can't see why anyone would want to make any bitter complaints.
Some of us have computers that are used by people other than ourselves at times. My wife uses my computer and while she's also mostly a touch typist, she doesn't like blank keys, especially if the board has a unique layout (I will be putting this set on a 96key board, not terrible nonstandard, but different enough). I also prefer to have legends for the rare occurrence that I need to look down for a key, it's just personal preference.
Like I've said before, I'm in on this set no matter what (well assuming it's priced like other GMK sets). If Gaijin wins I'll probably spring for the extra kit as I really like the look for the set and it works for my home setup/situation. If Hiragana only wins I won't be springing for the extra kit because it doesn't appeal to me, but if it's what more people want then it's whatever.
I wouldn't forbid anyone from using my computer/keyboards just because they're a part of a hobby of mine, and I can see my teenager/spouse/brother all being annoyed by Hiragana, because none of them are touch typists. I mean, if I really loved those alphas, I would ignore them and let them deal with it on the rare occasions that they use my keyboard, but as it is, they're not a must have. Both Hiragana and Gaijin would be a fun addition to this set, but I'm just being practical in saying that I'd rather get the one that wouldn't lead to having to guide my kid's hands to the home keys every time he wants to use my computer.
Yuri prices are up. Assuming that the pricing would be the same (why would it not be?) the gaijin/hiragana set would be ~ 80 usd on top of the base kit (~ 130 usd). This information could be added to the poll.That's the highest price point, lowest is $60 if there's 250+ purchased, which is about in line with what people here have been talking about.
Understandable that the Gaijin kit is preferred for you both, nothing wrong with that. We're pretty much all interested in the main kit after all, and the Jap kit is an extra aesthetic for whichever MiTo brings through :)
Yes, of course, a lot would like to see DS sub-legends, but in the end, the primary attention is on the main set/base kit :) without it, the Jap kit wouldn't be brought up like this.
Regardless, I'm getting whatever pops forward :D
Totally in - is there an ETA for this yet?
Just realized this set is ABS. How's the quality of GMK ABS compared to other ABS keysets?GMK is widely considered the highest quality ABS caps on the market.
Just realized this set is ABS. How's the quality of GMK ABS compared to other ABS keysets?
Just realized this set is ABS. How's the quality of GMK ABS compared to other ABS keysets?
I would take GMK ABS over most PBT sets, GMK's ABS is really thick and really nice to type on. It will shine eventually, but not at all quickly.
Just realized this set is ABS. How's the quality of GMK ABS compared to other ABS keysets?
I would take GMK ABS over most PBT sets, GMK's ABS is really thick and really nice to type on. It will shine eventually, but not at all quickly.
The feel isn't really a worry. I'm more concerned about the shine. Though, this would be me first gmk set, so I'm not sure what to expect.
Are the Alphas the same color as Skeletor mods? Just wondering if I need to try and stock up on another Skeletor set.No, it's a custom color.
Just realized this set is ABS. How's the quality of GMK ABS compared to other ABS keysets?
I would take GMK ABS over most PBT sets, GMK's ABS is really thick and really nice to type on. It will shine eventually, but not at all quickly.
As if I wasn't sold already.... Any word on timing? Compared to SA, is GMK generally better or worse?
The feel isn't really a worry. I'm more concerned about the shine. Though, this would be me first gmk set, so I'm not sure what to expect.
All ABS caps will shine, but GMK caps will take quite a while to do so. I've seen people with 2+ year old sets on daily drivers with no shine.
Will the Hiragana Monolegends be doubleshot like Yuri Cyrillic?
Would be sweet if the molds are used with some different colors in the future.
Will the Hiragana Monolegends be doubleshot like Yuri Cyrillic?
Would be sweet if the molds are used with some different colors in the future.
All ABS caps will shine, but GMK caps will take quite a while to do so. I've seen people with 2+ year old sets on daily drivers with no shine.Frequency of use aside, the thing is, that is dependent on one's body chemistry; some people have more corrosive skin secretions that others, witch affects the how fast the polishing of the keycaps will
Really nice! Hiragana is clean and nice but Gaijin is just wild fun! Hope to get this as my first set.GMK as your first set? Skipping all those cheap keysets and go straight with the high-end option! Good stuff! :)
Really nice! Hiragana is clean and nice but Gaijin is just wild fun! Hope to get this as my first set.GMK as your first set? Skipping all those cheap keysets and go straight with the high-end option! Good stuff! :)
● A small detail that is bothering me... wouldn't it be better if the Tachikoma's eyes (three dots) were centered instead of tilted? And maybe just a bit smaller? I had to read the description to notice what it was.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yusN8f0.png)
First of all, I love this set! Count me in, it's an instabuy! :DI too would die for a Robocop novelty
I don't know of you're still taking suggestions for the novelties, but here are my 2 cents:● A small detail that is bothering me... wouldn't it be better if the Tachikoma's eyes (three dots) were centered instead of tilted? I had to read the description to notice what it was.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yusN8f0.png)
● Other suggestions for keycaps (some already contributed by other users):
- Logos from Atari, Commodore, MSX... if that's allowed
- Tron bike or recognizer
- Johnny 5 from Short Circuit - here is a quick sketch I've made with different expressions:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HccpmtC.png)
- Robocop face
- Kaneda bike / pill logo from Akira
^^
- (80s) Johnny 5 from Short Circuit - here is a quick sketch I've made with different expressions:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HccpmtC.png)
I don't want to stomp on your idea, but doesn't this contain too main fine details to cast properly? Lest you forget, these have to be printed on a 1u...
I don't want to stomp on your idea, but doesn't this contain too main fine details to cast properly? Lest you forget, these have to be printed on a 1u...I'm just throwing ideas around.
oh, wondering if there's an approximate ETA on this?Mito has been saying the end of Q2, so within the next month or so. I'm thinking it'll be the next big keyset drop on MD after Yuri finishes up.
don't wanna have my budget already spent when this drops...
oh, wondering if there's an approximate ETA on this?Mito has been saying the end of Q2, so within the next month or so. I'm thinking it'll be the next big keyset drop on MD after Yuri finishes up.
don't wanna have my budget already spent when this drops...
oh, wondering if there's an approximate ETA on this?Mito has been saying the end of Q2, so within the next month or so. I'm thinking it'll be the next big keyset drop on MD after Yuri finishes up.
don't wanna have my budget already spent when this drops...
Nautilus is next, so it's probably still a little ways out.
...really bad timing of all this **** lately
^I don't want to stomp on your idea, but doesn't this contain too main fine details to cast properly? Lest you forget, these have to be printed on a 1u...^
- (80s) Johnny 5 from Short Circuit - here is a quick sketch I've made with different expressions:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HccpmtC.png)
Skipped Yuri in favor of this set and wil definitely skip any SP SA with at least 1 year estimate. Not sure about Nautilus though, but novelties will tell
Copy/pasted from Massdrop just for coverage...
"I've been following Laser here and on Geekhack, but I don't recall if this has been asked. In light of Yuri's DC kit, will you consider running a Colevrak kit? Honestly, if I had to choose between the two, I'd go with Laser over Yuri, but I'm concerned that if the Yuri DC kit fails, no one else will even try to offer one for GMK sets. If you'll offer a Colevrak kit without regard to Yuri's DC success or failure, I'll drop my Yuri purchase and pledge for at least 2 Colevrak kits."
Edit....
Mito replied on Massdrop so I'm going to copy/paste that here also so he doesn't have too...
"The Colevrak kit will be there, but it's important to note that as you can clearly see there's no demand for it. I will make it available, hopefully it tips!"
https://www.massdrop.com/talk/455/laser-gmk/1693976
Super stoked for Laser and a chance to have Laser with Colevrak support!
I like the gaijin alphas the most.
Are the gaijin alphas going to be double-shot fully? Or, are the shifted sublegends going to be printed?
My concern is if they are printed, some of the sublegends will wear out quicker.
The sublegends would last longer if front printed but im not sure if it would look as cool.
I like the gaijin alphas the most.
Are the gaijin alphas going to be double-shot fully? Or, are the shifted sublegends going to be printed?
My concern is if they are printed, some of the sublegends will wear out quicker.
The sublegends would last longer if front printed but im not sure if it would look as cool.
oh good you remembered me of asking this with your post:
I'm all for Hiragana only, but if the sublegends on gaijin are double-shot, I'd also be ok with that. Just no Pad Printing at all pls...
double-shot or double-bust!
Doubleshot 100%.That's good
...people abused the vote in favor of their preferred options
COLEVRAK, please! I want this kit so bad, but I only type on DV, so it would be really nice to have that kit.
Heck, I'd be happy with a blanks kit in these colors. Probably just me, though. /shrug
COLEVRAK, please! I want this kit so bad, but I only type on DV, so it would be really nice to have that kit.
Heck, I'd be happy with a blanks kit in these colors. Probably just me, though. /shrug
COLEVRAK, please! I want this kit so bad, but I only type on DV, so it would be really nice to have that kit.
Heck, I'd be happy with a blanks kit in these colors. Probably just me, though. /shrug
vote for hiragana, then you can treat it as dvorak, or colemak or anything ;)
COLEVRAK, please! I want this kit so bad, but I only type on DV, so it would be really nice to have that kit.
Heck, I'd be happy with a blanks kit in these colors. Probably just me, though. /shrug
vote for hiragana, then you can treat it as dvorak, or colemak or anything ;)
JustCallMeCrash, MiTo has already confirmed DC/Colevrak support, see https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89079.msg2428274#msg2428274COLEVRAK, please! I want this kit so bad, but I only type on DV, so it would be really nice to have that kit.
Heck, I'd be happy with a blanks kit in these colors. Probably just me, though. /shrug
I mean, COLEVRAK is currently active for the Yuri drop on MD and its numbers are very lacklustre - 48/100 MOQ with 14 hours left, it might still make it though if MD is willing to help put up the numbers and if they do then I can see Laser being able to offer it as well using the then already existing moulds.
really can't wait for this to drop
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Please add 2u R4 shift key for XD60 support!
Does GMK have a 2u shift
I'm assuming any hopes of an additional JIS support kit are out the window? Even if those few are willing to pay the roughly 7 key premium?
Skipped Yuri in favor of this set and wil definitely skip any SP SA with at least 1 year estimate. Not sure about Nautilus though, but novelties will tell
If you want SA without the ridiculous wait, SA Carbon has a pre-reserved spot in the production queue to get it out quicker.
Why do Hiragana and Gaijin deviate from JIS in the first place?I'm assuming any hopes of an additional JIS support kit are out the window? Even if those few are willing to pay the roughly 7 key premium?
Well there is going to be a repoll, so Hiragana has a chance to win. If Gaijin wins, I think it is safe to say that JIS support is out of the question.
By my calculations, Gaijin would require at least fifteen additional caps to support both JIS and ANSI, whereas Hiragana only would require at three to four (Chōonpu, the correct む and ろ positions, and optionally a わ/を key) to not contradict the JIS layout.
I think GMK Yuri did it right, the Cyrillic kit was the Russian keyboard layout with additional keys to outfit ISO and ANSI layouts and it sold fine even though most people who bought it will probably never type Russian; but if anyone does want to type Russian it will suffice. I think it’s notable that Massdrop advertised their recent PBT Japanese set as good for people who want to learn the language. No doubt there will be some disappointed buyers who get their caps and realize that their new caps won’t work because Japanese people don’t use ANSI keyboards.
The Euro kit is missing at least ç and ñ to support Spanish layout. Also <> but the Base kit has a <>| key, it could do.
Why do Hiragana and Gaijin deviate from JIS in the first place?I'm assuming any hopes of an additional JIS support kit are out the window? Even if those few are willing to pay the roughly 7 key premium?
Well there is going to be a repoll, so Hiragana has a chance to win. If Gaijin wins, I think it is safe to say that JIS support is out of the question.
By my calculations, Gaijin would require at least fifteen additional caps to support both JIS and ANSI, whereas Hiragana only would require at three to four (Chōonpu, the correct む and ろ positions, and optionally a わ/を key) to not contradict the JIS layout.
I think GMK Yuri did it right, the Cyrillic kit was the Russian keyboard layout with additional keys to outfit ISO and ANSI layouts and it sold fine even though most people who bought it will probably never type Russian; but if anyone does want to type Russian it will suffice. I think it’s notable that Massdrop advertised their recent PBT Japanese set as good for people who want to learn the language. No doubt there will be some disappointed buyers who get their caps and realize that their new caps won’t work because Japanese people don’t use ANSI keyboards.
Because in america there is a large population who cannot touch type, but like the pleasing aesthetic of 'moon runes'. I would not call it a gaijin set, but instead a weeaboo set (as it serves no practical purpose). :))Why do Hiragana and Gaijin deviate from JIS in the first place?I'm assuming any hopes of an additional JIS support kit are out the window? Even if those few are willing to pay the roughly 7 key premium?
Well there is going to be a repoll, so Hiragana has a chance to win. If Gaijin wins, I think it is safe to say that JIS support is out of the question.
By my calculations, Gaijin would require at least fifteen additional caps to support both JIS and ANSI, whereas Hiragana only would require at three to four (Chōonpu, the correct む and ろ positions, and optionally a わ/を key) to not contradict the JIS layout.
I think GMK Yuri did it right, the Cyrillic kit was the Russian keyboard layout with additional keys to outfit ISO and ANSI layouts and it sold fine even though most people who bought it will probably never type Russian; but if anyone does want to type Russian it will suffice. I think it’s notable that Massdrop advertised their recent PBT Japanese set as good for people who want to learn the language. No doubt there will be some disappointed buyers who get their caps and realize that their new caps won’t work because Japanese people don’t use ANSI keyboards.
Why does gaijin option even exist in the first place?
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Because in america there is a large population who cannot touch type, but like the pleasing aesthetic of 'moon runes'. I would not call it a gaijin set, but instead a weeaboo set (as it serves no practical purpose). :))Why do Hiragana and Gaijin deviate from JIS in the first place?I'm assuming any hopes of an additional JIS support kit are out the window? Even if those few are willing to pay the roughly 7 key premium?
Well there is going to be a repoll, so Hiragana has a chance to win. If Gaijin wins, I think it is safe to say that JIS support is out of the question.
By my calculations, Gaijin would require at least fifteen additional caps to support both JIS and ANSI, whereas Hiragana only would require at three to four (Chōonpu, the correct む and ろ positions, and optionally a わ/を key) to not contradict the JIS layout.
I think GMK Yuri did it right, the Cyrillic kit was the Russian keyboard layout with additional keys to outfit ISO and ANSI layouts and it sold fine even though most people who bought it will probably never type Russian; but if anyone does want to type Russian it will suffice. I think it’s notable that Massdrop advertised their recent PBT Japanese set as good for people who want to learn the language. No doubt there will be some disappointed buyers who get their caps and realize that their new caps won’t work because Japanese people don’t use ANSI keyboards.
Why does gaijin option even exist in the first place?
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Because in america there is a large population who cannot touch type, but like the pleasing aesthetic of 'moon runes'. I would not call it a gaijin set, but instead a weeaboo set (as it serves no practical purpose). :))Why do Hiragana and Gaijin deviate from JIS in the first place?I'm assuming any hopes of an additional JIS support kit are out the window? Even if those few are willing to pay the roughly 7 key premium?
Well there is going to be a repoll, so Hiragana has a chance to win. If Gaijin wins, I think it is safe to say that JIS support is out of the question.
By my calculations, Gaijin would require at least fifteen additional caps to support both JIS and ANSI, whereas Hiragana only would require at three to four (Chōonpu, the correct む and ろ positions, and optionally a わ/を key) to not contradict the JIS layout.
I think GMK Yuri did it right, the Cyrillic kit was the Russian keyboard layout with additional keys to outfit ISO and ANSI layouts and it sold fine even though most people who bought it will probably never type Russian; but if anyone does want to type Russian it will suffice. I think it’s notable that Massdrop advertised their recent PBT Japanese set as good for people who want to learn the language. No doubt there will be some disappointed buyers who get their caps and realize that their new caps won’t work because Japanese people don’t use ANSI keyboards.
Why does gaijin option even exist in the first place?
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No learning touch-typing in elementary school there then?
Any chance for a 1u AltGr key?
Most keycap sets I've seen only includes 1.25u AltGr in their international/euro/norde kits, but this is really frustrating. The AltGr key is always directly to the right of the spacebar and in any 60% layout that includes arrow keys that key will be 1u.
So as it is, if I'd like a proper AltGr key, I can't have arrow keys.
Please help.
PS. I'm well aware I could just as easily replace it with a blank or a novelty cap, but I'd really like to have a proper option.
I use ANSI International and on my 75% boards I just use the 1u Alt key. Anyway, in the base set there is also a 1u Hack key that could work too.Any chance for a 1u AltGr key?
Most keycap sets I've seen only includes 1.25u AltGr in their international/euro/norde kits, but this is really frustrating. The AltGr key is always directly to the right of the spacebar and in any 60% layout that includes arrow keys that key will be 1u.
So as it is, if I'd like a proper AltGr key, I can't have arrow keys.
Please help.
PS. I'm well aware I could just as easily replace it with a blank or a novelty cap, but I'd really like to have a proper option.
or with a normal 1u Alt?
Because in america there is a large population who cannot touch typeThe easiest way to fix that is to not have the legends on the keycaps match what the keyboard outputs. I'm mostly hunt 'n' peck on QWERTY, but a touch-typist on Dvorak.
I am the same way with Qwerty & Dvorak. Having something like Hiragana mono legends would empower me to go back and learn to touch-type properly in Qwerty, which is something I've been meaning to do. Ofc, blanks would do the job just as well... but I'm buying Laser either way ;)Because in america there is a large population who cannot touch typeThe easiest way to fix that is to not have the legends on the keycaps match what the keyboard outputs. I'm mostly hunt 'n' peck on QWERTY, but a touch-typist on Dvorak.
There is little to no benefit to learning touch typing on a layout that predates touch typing. It's not worth your time.I am the same way with Qwerty & Dvorak. Having something like Hiragana mono legends would empower me to go back and learn to touch-type properly in Qwerty, which is something I've been meaning to do. Ofc, blanks would do the job just as well... but I'm buying Laser either way ;)Because in america there is a large population who cannot touch typeThe easiest way to fix that is to not have the legends on the keycaps match what the keyboard outputs. I'm mostly hunt 'n' peck on QWERTY, but a touch-typist on Dvorak.
I'm sure it's just a pipe dream, but I think it would be cool. I guess I could always try and track down blanks in the right profiles/colors.
were the icon modifiers already a standard, not used often, or were they created specifically for Yuri?
I'm sure it's just a pipe dream, but I think it would be cool. I guess I could always try and track down blanks in the right profiles/colors.
Icon modifiers are hardly a pipe dream, GMK Yuri's icons kit succeeded handily (reaching the furthest drop point of 250, ending up at around $50 for the kit) and if MiTo would like to use the same moulds, I'm sure T0mb3ry would be more than willing to allow him to do so. This would bring down the costs a fair bit which would mean Hiragana + Icon mods should land right around or even under $100 like Yuri's Cyrillic + icons did.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/j3Brt49.png)
Hiragana + Icon mods should land right around or even under $100 like Yuri's Cyrillic + icons did
By standard, did you mean if other sets have/had them? It's not really a new thing. Most sets have them if they fit the theme.
If MiTo does offer an icon modifiers kit, I'd much prefer what he designed for Canvas, a lot lot more than what T0mb3ry designed for Yuri ;DShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-mito-canvas-xda-custom-keycap-set/MD-33791_20170113015403_c32c3f5eb8a611db.png?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1)
Maybe I misunderstand the 80s but I don't see how Japanese legends are a "perfect" fit for representing the 80s. Unless people mean that Japanese legends are a perfect fit for a fluorescent colorway, then I can see how people might associate bright colors with Japan.They come in to this set from the Cyberpunk side of things. Many cyberpunk stories involve the mixing of eastern and western cultures and often use Japanese themes. See Blade Runner and Ghost in the Shell as prime examples. There's also a lot of 80's video game culture stuff in this set, which was all basically exclusively coming out of Japan at the time.
Blade Runner has nothing to do with Japan but GitS, sure. I can't speak to the origin of cyberpunk, though I could see Japan being the origin since Japan was ahead of the rest of the world in technology around that time. And yes, many games came out of Japan. I still don't agree that the 80s and Japanese culture go hand-in-hand, but I can see why other people might think so.
Modern Japan simply was cyberpunk. The Japanese themselves knew it and delighted in it. I remember my first glimpse of Shibuya, when one of the young Tokyo journalists who had taken me there, his face drenched with the light of a thousand media-suns - all that towering, animated crawl of commercial information - said, ‘You see? You see? It is Blade Runner town.' And it was. It so evidently was.Even if that's a false quotation, Neuromancer says it all.
I like the Canvas icons a lot too. Point is, the Yuri icons were made for GMK, their moulds cost like $300 per 1u, using those would save VERY significant money and make the kit much more accessible. It's not about preference, it's about logistics.
Blade Runner has nothing to do with Japan but GitS, sure. I can't speak to the origin of cyberpunk, though I could see Japan being the origin since Japan was ahead of the rest of the world in technology around that time. And yes, many games came out of Japan. I still don't agree that the 80s and Japanese culture go hand-in-hand, but I can see why other people might think so.
Blade Runner the movie is not the only cyberpunk inspiration, although the most visual one. Let's not forget assumed Gibson words:QuoteModern Japan simply was cyberpunk. The Japanese themselves knew it and delighted in it. I remember my first glimpse of Shibuya, when one of the young Tokyo journalists who had taken me there, his face drenched with the light of a thousand media-suns - all that towering, animated crawl of commercial information - said, ‘You see? You see? It is Blade Runner town.' And it was. It so evidently was.Even if that's a false quotation, Neuromancer says it all.
I must disagree, it's a balance of preference AND logistics. If it's purely about preference, everyone would get everything they would ever wanted. If it's purely about logistics, then we would get no option but the standard ones for biggest economies of scale. Given what MiTo wrote about designing Canvas, it would fit his goal of spreading the icon mods designs as well. Plus, there is never any moulds until someone get them made, so why not now? It's up to the set designer to choose which would be on offer, but I already know which one I would buy and which I would not anyways.
I must disagree, it's a balance of preference AND logistics. If it's purely about preference, everyone would get everything they would ever wanted. If it's purely about logistics, then we would get no option but the standard ones for biggest economies of scale. Given what MiTo wrote about designing Canvas, it would fit his goal of spreading the icon mods designs as well. Plus, there is never any moulds until someone get them made, so why not now? It's up to the set designer to choose which would be on offer, but I already know which one I would buy and which I would not anyways.
I think I didn't get what I wanted to across properly at the end there - I definitely agree that it is a balanced about preference(s) and logistics. What I meant with what I said was that IF MiTo were to opt for using Yuri's moulds, then it'd be significantly cheaper for us buyers to purchase the icon mods set. I didn't mean that I think we should exclude the possibility of using Canvas' icons (or any other all-new ones freshly designed for Laser), I'm all for that personally as I do prefer those to Yuri's myself, I just meant that if one were hard-pressed for numbers/profitability then using Yuri's moulds would definitely be beneficial as well as preferable over not offering any.
I also agree that if new ones can be made realistically then there is no reason why it shouldn't be done now.
Blade Runner has nothing to do with Japan but GitS, sure. I can't speak to the origin of cyberpunk, though I could see Japan being the origin since Japan was ahead of the rest of the world in technology around that time. And yes, many games came out of Japan. I still don't agree that the 80s and Japanese culture go hand-in-hand, but I can see why other people might think so.Japan and Japanese culture are a huge influence on Blade Runner. A big part of Japan being a big part of cyberpunk is there was a growing feeling that Japan's economy would take over as the dominant one since they were leading the technology field at the time.
Shodan is probably too hard to represent on a small key, but I think the logo of the TriOptimum Corporation would be a good fit for the set maybe? :)Re-read the thread, how did I miss this.. obligatory +1 from me :)Show Image(https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/shodan/images/1/1a/TRI-OPTIMUM-LOGO.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151109032634)
http://shodan.wikia.com/wiki/TriOptimum (http://shodan.wikia.com/wiki/TriOptimum)
They're custom colors. And Nautilus uses blue alphas/mods, while this uses purple. Only actual similarity is the cyan alpha legends; the alphas, mods, accents and mod legends are all different.I thought it was purple but I guess my screen is calibrated weird.
First of all, I love this set! Count me in, it's an instabuy! :D
I don't know of you're still taking suggestions for the novelties, but here are my 2 cents:● A small detail that is bothering me... wouldn't it be better if the Tachikoma's eyes (three dots) were centered instead of tilted? And maybe just a bit smaller? I had to read the description to notice what it was.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/yusN8f0.png)
● Other suggestions for keycaps (some already contributed by other users):
- (80s) Logos from Atari, Commodore, MSX... if that's allowed
- (80s) Tron bike or recognizer
- (80s) Johnny 5 from Short Circuit - here is a quick sketch I've made with different expressions:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HccpmtC.png)
- (Cyberpunk) Robocop helmet / OCP logo
- (Cyberpunk) Kaneda bike / pill logo from Akira
so... are the "CAPS LOCO" caps going to be pad printed
so... are the "CAPS LOCO" caps going to be pad printed
All keycaps present in the project will be double shot, I thought that CAPS LOCO was a cool addition but if you guys don't enjoy it we can change to the normal CAPS LOCK. Let me know what you guys think and we can arrive in a final design together.
so... are the "CAPS LOCO" caps going to be pad printed
All keycaps present in the project will be double shot, I thought that CAPS LOCO was a cool addition but if you guys don't enjoy it we can change to the normal CAPS LOCK. Let me know what you guys think and we can arrive in a final design together.
I think I like the idea of CAPS LOCO :p
The white ball with three dots acts like an eyeball and rotates to point the dots at whatever the Tachikoma is looking at. They aren't fixed in place, so having them aimed off to the side looks a little strange. This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNY53tZ2geg) might be a good reference.● A small detail that is bothering me... wouldn't it be better if the Tachikoma's eyes (three dots) were centered instead of tilted? And maybe just a bit smaller? I had to read the description to notice what it was.I'm looking into tuning the Tachikoma eyes, the specific design you saw implemented was conceived after a screenshot sent to me, presumably from the anime. I' going to until the eyes or make them bigger in order to avoid the confusion with a bowling ball and pins.
There are already a couple of t-shirt designs that can help:The white ball with three dots acts like an eyeball and rotates to point the dots at whatever the Tachikoma is looking at. They aren't fixed in place, so having them aimed off to the side looks a little strange. This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNY53tZ2geg) might be a good reference.● A small detail that is bothering me... wouldn't it be better if the Tachikoma's eyes (three dots) were centered instead of tilted? And maybe just a bit smaller? I had to read the description to notice what it was.I'm looking into tuning the Tachikoma eyes, the specific design you saw implemented was conceived after a screenshot sent to me, presumably from the anime. I' going to until the eyes or make them bigger in order to avoid the confusion with a bowling ball and pins.
so... are the "CAPS LOCO" caps going to be pad printed
All keycaps present in the project will be double shot, I thought that CAPS LOCO was a cool addition but if you guys don't enjoy it we can change to the normal CAPS LOCK. Let me know what you guys think and we can arrive in a final design together.
I think I like the idea of CAPS LOCO :p
+1
Keep the caps loco please
https://polldaddy.com/poll/9767237/My choice would be to buy both, so this is better for Mr. Wallet
New Vote guys, vote vote (monolegends :cool:)
Can't believe it is only one that enters the cut, instead of giving us a choice :(
https://polldaddy.com/poll/9767237/My choice would be to buy both, so this is better for Mr. Wallet
New Vote guys, vote vote (monolegends :cool:)
Can't believe it is only one that enters the cut, instead of giving us a choice :(
https://polldaddy.com/poll/9767237/My choice would be to buy both, so this is better for Mr. Wallet
New Vote guys, vote vote (monolegends :cool:)
Can't believe it is only one that enters the cut, instead of giving us a choice :(
I would buy both too, but both wont be available... in such a scenario MONOLEGENDS!!
https://polldaddy.com/poll/9767237/My choice would be to buy both, so this is better for Mr. Wallet
New Vote guys, vote vote (monolegends :cool:)
Can't believe it is only one that enters the cut, instead of giving us a choice :(
I would buy both too, but both wont be available... in such a scenario MONOLEGENDS!!
Same!
Monolegends would be sick and unique to GMK Laser.
There are already Gaijin kits out there with Oco Modern beige and enjoyPbt. *shrugs*
There will be a Dvorak/Colemak kit added to actual the group buy.:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: You rock MiTo!!!
...I'm down for buying multiple DC kits to try to hit the MOQ...
...anyone that doesn't use US ANSI (and would buy the kit) should vote for Hiragana as the legends won't be correct for you...
Guys get the hiragana there is already some set with japanese sub legend and hiragana look just so cool !
I know someone who told me that : "Don't let your high end kb be dream, yesterday you said monolegend hiragana looks cool, so just DO IT! Vote for monolegend! :thumb:"
Everyone agrees, but we still seem to be losing the voting poll :S
Most comments here/massdrop is in favor of Monos
Everyone agrees, but we still seem to be losing the voting poll :S
Most comments here/massdrop is in favor of Monos
I hate to be "that guy" but all the normies that won't even be buying either one of the alternate alphabet legends must all be voting for Gaijin - "if I do want to buy one, it will not be the mono-legend, I could never type with that". Plus surely a lot of people are worried about their touchtyping abilities and they want to have English legends to fall back on for whatever reason.
I doubt Hiragana mono will ever end up winning but I really do wish it would.
I prefer gaijin. I am a touch typist but not everyone who uses my keyboard is.
I hate to be "that guy"
I prefer gaijin. I am a touch typist but not everyone who uses my keyboard is.
What a wonderful opportunity to learn touch typing I say :p
Everyone agrees, but we still seem to be losing the voting poll :S
Most comments here/massdrop is in favor of Monos
I hate to be "that guy" but all the normies that won't even be buying either one of the alternate alphabet legends must all be voting for Gaijin - "if I do want to buy one, it will not be the mono-legend, I could never type with that". Plus surely a lot of people are worried about their touchtyping abilities and they want to have English legends to fall back on for whatever reason.
I doubt Hiragana mono will ever end up winning but I really do wish it would.
Everyone agrees, but we still seem to be losing the voting poll :S
I feel like those voting gaijin would buy either if it came down to it. The people voting on hiragana however think gaijin looks busy and disorganized.
We're here and we're watching. If we aren't posting so much it's only because we don't want to crush your dreams anymore than the poll results are already doing. <3Everyone agrees, but we still seem to be losing the voting poll :S
Most comments here/massdrop is in favor of Monos
I hate to be "that guy" but all the normies that won't even be buying either one of the alternate alphabet legends must all be voting for Gaijin - "if I do want to buy one, it will not be the mono-legend, I could never type with that". Plus surely a lot of people are worried about their touchtyping abilities and they want to have English legends to fall back on for whatever reason.
I doubt Hiragana mono will ever end up winning but I really do wish it would.
Everyone agrees, but we still seem to be losing the voting poll :S
Most comments here/massdrop is in favor of Monos
I hate to be "that guy" but all the normies that won't even be buying either one of the alternate alphabet legends must all be voting for Gaijin - "if I do want to buy one, it will not be the mono-legend, I could never type with that". Plus surely a lot of people are worried about their touchtyping abilities and they want to have English legends to fall back on for whatever reason.
I doubt Hiragana mono will ever end up winning but I really do wish it would.
We're here and we're watching. If we aren't posting so much it's only because we don't want to crush your dreams anymore than the poll results are already doing. <3
I'm surprised MiTo put this to a second vote. Given it was so close before I would've made an executive decision and gone for Hiragana - much nicer than blanks for touch typists, seems like it would be just fine for Dvorak, Colemak, or any other layout. I also suspect those who need the Latin legends will just buy the base kit anyway with any novelties they can afford.
Some people brute forced the last poll in favor of the monolegends
I, too, assumed that most of the people who voted for the hybrid kit would switch to Hiragana. Interesting that Gaijin is presently ahead, and like many others ITT I am a little tempted to put it down to people who won't buy the kit regardless.I like how T0mb3ry took charge as the designer and said "no, the dual legends look too busy" in the interest of the success of the set.
Though honestly it is merely a matter of aesthetics with the present kit configuration, unless like someone else said you would prefer that fewer molds would need to be made for caps that don't contradict the actual Japanese layout.
Personally I am voting for Hiragana on the off chance that MiTo would be amenable to adding the few extra keys to outfit a JIS layout. From a purely aesthetic view, I do prefer Hiragana only (especially with the chance of icon mods) but I would be equally willing to buy a set with both Kana and Latin characters as long as it didn't contradict JIS.
Dollars to donuts if T0mb3ry held a vote over whether the Cyrillic kit for GMK Yuri should have been the Russian keyboard layout or just ANSI with Cyrillic sub-legends on the alphas, ANSI would have won. I think it just shows that there are two halves of this community with different priorities and ideas about keyboards and caps.
I assume the reason we can't have both sets is both require new legends? Otherwise I don't get it, do we think both would miss MOQ? Wouldn't offering both and letting MOQ do the elimination be better?
If nothing else, to me the poll should be which packages would you buy (pick all): Hiragana, Gaijin or Both
Then see which wins. I would totally buy both just to get the Hiragana set. That said, I'm not sure I'd buy just the Gaijin set cause it really is super cluttered comparatively, at that point I'll just buy more novel key packs and use em as blanks :D. I'm sure I'm not alone.
I just saw this paracord:Show Image(https://paracordgalaxy.com/3188/550-paracord-purple-lotus-100-ft-made-in-usa.jpg)
Purple Lotus
I wonder if it would match this keyset. Maybe it has too much cyan?
But I like how it makes a pink grid like those 80s backgrounds (if coiled) :D
I just saw this paracord:Show Image(https://paracordgalaxy.com/3188/550-paracord-purple-lotus-100-ft-made-in-usa.jpg)
Purple Lotus
I wonder if it would match this keyset. Maybe it has too much cyan?
But I like how it makes a pink grid like those 80s backgrounds (if coiled) :D
I'd like to see both offered just to see which hits MOQ. Though that does run the risk of neither hitting.
I'd pick up Hiragana just to put my money where my mouth is but will pass on Gaijin as it would be worse than blanks for my layout.
RE paracords and cables - MiTo might have something planned for that already, he has many commissions that he will be running with artisans so I'd not be surprised at all if one of them is a custom cable made specifically for Laser that you will be able to purchase alongside the set.
RE paracords and cables - MiTo might have something planned for that already, he has many commissions that he will be running with artisans so I'd not be surprised at all if one of them is a custom cable made specifically for Laser that you will be able to purchase alongside the set.That would be great!
RE paracords and cables - MiTo might have something planned for that already, he has many commissions that he will be running with artisans so I'd not be surprised at all if one of them is a custom cable made specifically for Laser that you will be able to purchase alongside the set.That would be great!
Now I only have to decide a case color... ;D
I, too, assumed that most of the people who voted for the hybrid kit would switch to Hiragana. Interesting that Gaijin is presently ahead, and like many others ITT I am a little tempted to put it down to people who won't buy the kit regardless.I like how T0mb3ry took charge as the designer and said "no, the dual legends look too busy" in the interest of the success of the set.
Though honestly it is merely a matter of aesthetics with the present kit configuration, unless like someone else said you would prefer that fewer molds would need to be made for caps that don't contradict the actual Japanese layout.
Personally I am voting for Hiragana on the off chance that MiTo would be amenable to adding the few extra keys to outfit a JIS layout. From a purely aesthetic view, I do prefer Hiragana only (especially with the chance of icon mods) but I would be equally willing to buy a set with both Kana and Latin characters as long as it didn't contradict JIS.
Dollars to donuts if T0mb3ry held a vote over whether the Cyrillic kit for GMK Yuri should have been the Russian keyboard layout or just ANSI with Cyrillic sub-legends on the alphas, ANSI would have won. I think it just shows that there are two halves of this community with different priorities and ideas about keyboards and caps.
I, too, assumed that most of the people who voted for the hybrid kit would switch to Hiragana. Interesting that Gaijin is presently ahead, and like many others ITT I am a little tempted to put it down to people who won't buy the kit regardless.I like how T0mb3ry took charge as the designer and said "no, the dual legends look too busy" in the interest of the success of the set.
Though honestly it is merely a matter of aesthetics with the present kit configuration, unless like someone else said you would prefer that fewer molds would need to be made for caps that don't contradict the actual Japanese layout.
Personally I am voting for Hiragana on the off chance that MiTo would be amenable to adding the few extra keys to outfit a JIS layout. From a purely aesthetic view, I do prefer Hiragana only (especially with the chance of icon mods) but I would be equally willing to buy a set with both Kana and Latin characters as long as it didn't contradict JIS.
Dollars to donuts if T0mb3ry held a vote over whether the Cyrillic kit for GMK Yuri should have been the Russian keyboard layout or just ANSI with Cyrillic sub-legends on the alphas, ANSI would have won. I think it just shows that there are two halves of this community with different priorities and ideas about keyboards and caps.
Why even bother with a poll if you're not going to make the winner?
Christ, the mental gymnastics happening over this font are embarrassing.
I thought I was the only one watching this cringingI, too, assumed that most of the people who voted for the hybrid kit would switch to Hiragana. Interesting that Gaijin is presently ahead, and like many others ITT I am a little tempted to put it down to people who won't buy the kit regardless.I like how T0mb3ry took charge as the designer and said "no, the dual legends look too busy" in the interest of the success of the set.
Though honestly it is merely a matter of aesthetics with the present kit configuration, unless like someone else said you would prefer that fewer molds would need to be made for caps that don't contradict the actual Japanese layout.
Personally I am voting for Hiragana on the off chance that MiTo would be amenable to adding the few extra keys to outfit a JIS layout. From a purely aesthetic view, I do prefer Hiragana only (especially with the chance of icon mods) but I would be equally willing to buy a set with both Kana and Latin characters as long as it didn't contradict JIS.
Dollars to donuts if T0mb3ry held a vote over whether the Cyrillic kit for GMK Yuri should have been the Russian keyboard layout or just ANSI with Cyrillic sub-legends on the alphas, ANSI would have won. I think it just shows that there are two halves of this community with different priorities and ideas about keyboards and caps.
Why even bother with a poll if you're not going to make the winner?
Christ, the mental gymnastics happening over this font are embarrassing.
All these people saying that the polls are skewed is kind of funny. Let the poll decide what wins and stop being salty.
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I thought I was the only one watching this cringingI, too, assumed that most of the people who voted for the hybrid kit would switch to Hiragana. Interesting that Gaijin is presently ahead, and like many others ITT I am a little tempted to put it down to people who won't buy the kit regardless.I like how T0mb3ry took charge as the designer and said "no, the dual legends look too busy" in the interest of the success of the set.
Though honestly it is merely a matter of aesthetics with the present kit configuration, unless like someone else said you would prefer that fewer molds would need to be made for caps that don't contradict the actual Japanese layout.
Personally I am voting for Hiragana on the off chance that MiTo would be amenable to adding the few extra keys to outfit a JIS layout. From a purely aesthetic view, I do prefer Hiragana only (especially with the chance of icon mods) but I would be equally willing to buy a set with both Kana and Latin characters as long as it didn't contradict JIS.
Dollars to donuts if T0mb3ry held a vote over whether the Cyrillic kit for GMK Yuri should have been the Russian keyboard layout or just ANSI with Cyrillic sub-legends on the alphas, ANSI would have won. I think it just shows that there are two halves of this community with different priorities and ideas about keyboards and caps.
Why even bother with a poll if you're not going to make the winner?
Christ, the mental gymnastics happening over this font are embarrassing.
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My budget for GMK Laser just grew drastically, now that Massdrop pulled shenanigans on the SA Carbon drop. Take my money Mito, take it all.
It's quite clear that MiTo prefers Hiragana, so I'm not sure why he hasn't already gone ahead with it.I thought I was the only one watching this cringingI, too, assumed that most of the people who voted for the hybrid kit would switch to Hiragana. Interesting that Gaijin is presently ahead, and like many others ITT I am a little tempted to put it down to people who won't buy the kit regardless.I like how T0mb3ry took charge as the designer and said "no, the dual legends look too busy" in the interest of the success of the set.
Though honestly it is merely a matter of aesthetics with the present kit configuration, unless like someone else said you would prefer that fewer molds would need to be made for caps that don't contradict the actual Japanese layout.
Personally I am voting for Hiragana on the off chance that MiTo would be amenable to adding the few extra keys to outfit a JIS layout. From a purely aesthetic view, I do prefer Hiragana only (especially with the chance of icon mods) but I would be equally willing to buy a set with both Kana and Latin characters as long as it didn't contradict JIS.
Dollars to donuts if T0mb3ry held a vote over whether the Cyrillic kit for GMK Yuri should have been the Russian keyboard layout or just ANSI with Cyrillic sub-legends on the alphas, ANSI would have won. I think it just shows that there are two halves of this community with different priorities and ideas about keyboards and caps.
Why even bother with a poll if you're not going to make the winner?
Christ, the mental gymnastics happening over this font are embarrassing.
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The polls had what 120 votes last time... around 200 votes now at most? If you think this is even a large enough representation of the final sales, you two must be delusional. I don't see how this set would sell under 1XXX. Just that alone tells you how useless the poll actually is. I am glad some of the other designers just took over and decided the outcome e.g. T0mb3ry. Shouldn't be left up to an unpopular (low vote count) poll.. IN MY OPINION.
My budget for GMK Laser just grew drastically, now that Massdrop pulled shenanigans on the SA Carbon drop. Take my money Mito, take it all.
I just hope they won't f**k up with novelties the same way they did it with Carbon warning signs.
Actually, this set a no-go flag for me on carbon.
I couldn't find any intent provide icon modifiers(...)
Gaijen is winning again. Popcorn ready
I actually voted gaijin myself, I just think there is a valid point to be made about poll results vs what actual sale results would look like. I do also think it'd be worth trying to sell both sets then just dropping hiragana if it's lagging too much.
If both sets receive enough votes to exceed the notorious GMK MOQ then that would be a strong case for running both of them. But it would probably have to be over 1,000 votes each because we know that not everyone who votes will ultimately buy either set. People like to vote in these web polls because it costs nothing and it's fun to choose a winner. Things change quickly when it comes time to pay up and the ratio of actually buying the set versus just voting for it is equally true/meaningful for both gaijin and hiragana in this case.
Gaijen is winning again. Popcorn ready
I don't think anyone is being overly defensive of Hiragana mono to the point of it being "cringy" - at least not here on GH, I really don't read reddit very much (if ever) so I can't speak for that but as Amnesia stated, polls are skewed, no matter what is winning. Arguments can be made both ways and for/against either of the options, I don't think there's anything wrong with enthusiasts being passionate about their preference; we're all weirdos that pay for plastic key caps for our fancy keyboards after all, I hardly think this is cringe.
That said, I do agree Hiragana mono people seem to be a lot more vocal. Whether or not this means there's more real interest in that than there is in gaijin is speculation, guesstimating at best. I'll personally be buying either one, I prefer mono because I think it looks a lot cleaner and will help people with alternate layouts figure their lives out but the chaotic nature of gaijin also fits the theme quite well, akin to the packed, narrow streets (mostly of Japan) seen in cyberpunk and similar sceneries.
I couldn't find any intent provide icon modifiers(...)
Mito's confirmed on Reddit (somewhere, too busy to find it now) that there will be icon mods - not sure whether they'll be an all new design or if they may use the Yuri moulds but this was 2 to 3 days ago max so we can be certain it is accurate information, more will probably be disclosed later on as he progresses the project.
You can be sure that things will be done the right way, if Hiragana turns out to be the actual option there will be icon modifiers to complete a minimal look. If Gaijin wins, I'll find a dope workaround for modifiers too, either way everyone wins!
I might try this Gaijin/base combo if Hiragana loses. Think it looks a bit less busy with the triple-legend caps gone.Show Image(http://i.pi.gy/rk7j.png)
I might try this Gaijin/base combo if Hiragana loses. Think it looks a bit less busy with the triple-legend caps gone.Show Image(http://i.pi.gy/rk7j.png)
That's what I am planning on doing. I actually like that combo better than Hiragana alone.
I was team hiragana since it seemed they'd work best with the blank modifiers on ortholinear. After arranging the renders into a preonic shape, I'm actually thinking dual legends would look better for this...
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I was team hiragana since it seemed they'd work best with the blank modifiers on ortholinear. After arranging the renders into a preonic shape, I'm actually thinking dual legends would look better for this...
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The more I look at this, the less I want hiragana...
Now I kinda prefer dual legends too :eek:
I was team hiragana since it seemed they'd work best with the blank modifiers on ortholinear. After arranging the renders into a preonic shape, I'm actually thinking dual legends would look better for this...
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The more I look at this, the less I want hiragana...
Now I kinda prefer dual legends too :eek:
Finally:
- Looking at the criticism of the Hiragana renders, a complaint is that it's too bare or empty overall. After reviewing some of GMK's previous novelties, if a new mold is required there appears to be no reason they can't do centered legends similar to Signature Plastic's default? Try rendering the Hiragana in an SP style, centered and much larger. This could give the Hiragana the extra pop that some of the detractors crave. If it works better overall, GMK should make any mold set you are willing to pay for.
I might try this Gaijin/base combo if Hiragana loses. Think it looks a bit less busy with the triple-legend caps gone.Show Image(http://i.pi.gy/rk7j.png)
That's what I am planning on doing. I actually like that combo better than Hiragana alone.
Yea, that does look way better than the regular Gaijin kit in my personal opinion. The only "problem" with that solution is that icon mods + Hiragana/gaijin can cover 60-67% boards without the need for the base kit, as someone who doesn't really use anything bigger than that ever (that'll change once the Kira comes along but that'll be a while), saving $100 by not having to buy the base kit is quite relevant. Same thing as I did with Yuri, just bought icon mods, Cyrillic and spacebars.
Then again, Laser probably warrants an all in, I guess buying the base kit even with little intention of making much use of it will be worth it.
Mito's confirmed on Reddit...
I think you are referring to this post:QuoteYou can be sure that things will be done the right way, if Hiragana turns out to be the actual option there will be icon modifiers to complete a minimal look. If Gaijin wins, I'll find a dope workaround for modifiers too, either way everyone wins!...
...Show Image(http://i.pi.gy/rk7j.png)
Reaffirms my belief that the Gaijin option can be improved considerably. If it will have its' own modifiers to match that will be excellent.
Since that number row is going to be double shot, I assume we're looking at new molds again for these, so I will add to what I said about going all in on this concept to really complete it. So my new suggestion: redesign the new Gaijin number row without the regular secondary legends i.e. !, @, #, $ etc. Just have the numeral and the Gaijin character.
That way it can still be "busy" without being cluttered, and also becomes universal for all languages and regions.
Then again, Laser probably warrants an all in, I guess buying the base kit even with little intention of making much use of it will be worth it.
Has Laser decided where this Groupbuy will take place?
Since that number row is going to be double shot, I assume we're looking at new molds again for these, so I will add to what I said about going all in on this concept to really complete it. So my new suggestion: redesign the new Gaijin number row without the regular secondary legends i.e. !, @, #, $ etc. Just have the numeral and the Gaijin character.
That way it can still be "busy" without being cluttered, and also becomes universal for all languages and regions.
Reaffirms my belief that the Gaijin option can be improved considerably. If it will have its' own modifiers to match that will be excellent.
Since that number row is going to be double shot, I assume we're looking at new molds again for these, so I will add to what I said about going all in on this concept to really complete it. So my new suggestion: redesign the new Gaijin number row without the regular secondary legends i.e. !, @, #, $ etc. Just have the numeral and the Gaijin character.
That way it can still be "busy" without being cluttered, and also becomes universal for all languages and regions.
I actually quite like this idea, I didn't realize how cluttered the number row was until I saw that mockup.
What better way to learn than a kit like this?
Reaffirms my belief that the Gaijin option can be improved considerably. If it will have its' own modifiers to match that will be excellent.
Since that number row is going to be double shot, I assume we're looking at new molds again for these, so I will add to what I said about going all in on this concept to really complete it. So my new suggestion: redesign the new Gaijin number row without the regular secondary legends i.e. !, @, #, $ etc. Just have the numeral and the Gaijin character.
That way it can still be "busy" without being cluttered, and also becomes universal for all languages and regions.
I actually quite like this idea, I didn't realize how cluttered the number row was until I saw that mockup.
problem with that is, while i may be a touch typist for words and numbers, i don't always remember which number key i need to press to get, say, an ampersand.
Show Image(http://i.pi.gy/nalZ.jpg)
Looks good to me. Might actually prefer it to Hiragana.
so... are the "CAPS LOCO" caps going to be pad printed
All keycaps present in the project will be double shot, I thought that CAPS LOCO was a cool addition but if you guys don't enjoy it we can change to the normal CAPS LOCK. Let me know what you guys think and we can arrive in a final design together.
Since that number row is going to be double shot, I assume we're looking at new molds again for these, so I will add to what I said about going all in on this concept to really complete it. So my new suggestion: redesign the new Gaijin number row without the regular secondary legends i.e. !, @, #, $ etc. Just have the numeral and the Gaijin character.
That way it can still be "busy" without being cluttered, and also becomes universal for all languages and regions.Show Image(http://i.pi.gy/nalZ.jpg)
Looks good to me. Might actually prefer it to Hiragana.
I favor Caps LocK.+1.
Show Image(http://i.pi.gy/nalZ.jpg)
Looks good to me. Might actually prefer it to Hiragana.
Nice! in return here are Hiragana legends at 150% original size:
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enlargened Hiragana looks out of proportions...
enlargened Hiragana looks out of proportions...
I thought maybe I increased the size too much anyway, and a full set of appropriately matching modifiers would be essential. Even with that, I think then we'd be looking at the F row, cursors, numpad and other keys and saying that they are jarring, so ultimately we'd be wanting a full size set of molds to make this work...
What program do you guys use for the renders?
so... are the "CAPS LOCO" caps going to be pad printed
All keycaps present in the project will be double shot, I thought that CAPS LOCO was a cool addition but if you guys don't enjoy it we can change to the normal CAPS LOCK. Let me know what you guys think and we can arrive in a final design together.
@Auk, I appreciate you taking your time to express your ideas that's truly fantastic! You made a great presentation with limited resources, great job. However, what you have presented so far does not represent what I have envisioned for the project, therefore I'll be avoiding that.
There won't be big centered legends as they look inconsistent and out of place when combined with Cherry profile keycaps in my opinion. Here's an example of somebody that applied big centered legends on a cubic profile. I won't compromise the keycap set with this look. I understand why some may like it, but I don't and every project needs somebody to call the shots, I hope you understand.
http://imgur.com/a/CrMjN
Also, I will not be modifying the number row Gaijin legends as you suggested, because the result is a weird mono(double) legend row, like a hybrid of some sort. I will keep the accents, symbols and punctuation as they are, because people who don't touch type need those. If somebody wants to achieve the look you suggested, with a less cluttered number row, they can somewhat do it by combining the Base Kit with Gaijin.
@Geekhack, compatibility revisions are pending but I designed the Gaijin and the Hiragana kits the way they are designed for a reason. The Hiragana is supposed to be a minimal kit, to be combined with modifiers for a simpler look. On the other hand, the Gaijin kit is supposed to be loud, like the streets of Neo Tokyo, cluttered with neon signs everywhere. I don't know why pad printing was mentioned but you should read OP more closely, specifically the Technical Specs section. Every keycap present on Laser GMK is doubleshot.
Another point I'd like to address is the purpose of a second poll, which is merely to provide me with data so I can work on it. When I first presented the interest check I thought people would polarize into a 90/10. Instead, what we have, after I excluded Hybrid from the pool, is a solid 50/50 or 60/40 and you'll understand why that's great later.
I ask you guys to keep being supportive and engaged like this, bringing new ideas to the discussion and spreading the word. We are going to turn this project into something very special, we are in fact doing that already! I'm currently traveling but I will return to address to more concerns, suggestions and ideas later.
Another point I'd like to address is the purpose of a second poll, which is merely to provide me with data so I can work on it. When I first presented the interest check I thought people would polarize into a 90/10. Instead, what we have, after I excluded Hybrid from the pool, is a solid 50/50 or 60/40 and you'll understand why that's great later.
GMK has doubleshot kana molds?
Does that include sublegends?
Won't custom legends cost a ****load?
I understand why some may like it, but I don't and every project needs somebody to call the shots, I hope you understand.
Another point I'd like to address is the purpose of a second poll, which is merely to provide me with data so I can work on it. When I first presented the interest check I thought people would polarize into a 90/10. Instead, what we have, after I excluded Hybrid from the pool, is a solid 50/50 or 60/40 and you'll understand why that's great later.
The Hiragana is supposed to be a minimal kit, to be combined with modifiers for a simpler look. On the other hand, the Gaijin kit is supposed to be loud, like the streets of Neo Tokyo, cluttered with neon signs everywhere.
The Hiragana is supposed to be a minimal kit, to be combined with modifiers for a simpler look. On the other hand, the Gaijin kit is supposed to be loud, like the streets of Neo Tokyo, cluttered with neon signs everywhere.
Thís is exactly what I've been saying about the Gaijin kit. Bring it on the chaos, bring it on the madness. It is loud, it is bonkers and it is the right kit for me :cool:
when does the vote end?
Is this still looking to drop after Nautilus?
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Did anyone notice that there's an R4 Page Down key missing? I would assume that's what the R3 Page Up key is there to compliment...
Ah, I really don't know if I should go with Nautilus or Laser w/ the Gaijin legends.Both!
There's so many amazing sets coming out lately that I can't find enough boards for the keycaps! hope this covers a 660m at a reasonable cost, Might need to pick up one of those for this set.But there are so many nice keyboards coming down the pipe too.
Could there be some sort of a flex-kit for F-row? I like same mods colours on them.
Also would consider an all-agent-88 novelty kit for F-row - they are all amazing!
Could there be some sort of a flex-kit for F-row? I like same mods colours on them.G
Also would consider an all-agent-88 novelty kit for F-row - they are all amazing!Code: [Select]cswg
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You must realize it is the chronological order of early iterations up until the final Agent 88 icon shown on that image
You must realize it is the chronological order of early iterations up until the final Agent 88 icon shown on that image
To me they look like variations rather than iterations, since the quality of each is equally high.
You must realize it is the chronological order of early iterations up until the final Agent 88 icon shown on that image
...the quality of each is equally high.
Did anyone notice that there's an R4 Page Down key missing? I would assume that's what the R3 Page Up key is there to compliment...
that's a hard pass on 'caps loco' for me. there's enough ridiculous stuff in this set to make it unique without that key
that's a hard pass on 'caps loco' for me. there's enough ridiculous stuff in this set to make it unique without that key
I like caps loco... but if it were me... I'd put:
Cruise Ctrl
that's a hard pass on 'caps loco' for me. there's enough ridiculous stuff in this set to make it unique without that key
I like caps loco... but if it were me... I'd put:
Cruise Ctrl
Oh god I'd pay extra for a couple Caps Loco and Cruise Ctrl caps
Patiently waiting. Super cool set!
Same here. With the increasing number of different keysets, this really stands out for me, as it has a very well-conceived theme behind it. It feels like a lot of the more recent keysets are produced with the idea of which colours could be a good match and then try to create a background/theme to it.Patiently waiting. Super cool set!
I'm totally in for this. Cyberpunk is my jam.
Initially had thoughts that I would never be caught dead with this vibrant purple scheme but the more and more that I look at it each day... :-X
Is there any way to keep updated on the progress so when it goes on sale I don't miss it? I need this set in my life... Actually I'll probably buy 2 :D
Is there any way to keep updated on the progress so when it goes on sale I don't miss it? I need this set in my life... Actually I'll probably buy 2 :D
Is there any chance of adding VIM arrows now that GMK has the molds? Maybe in the novelties kit, they'd look great on this set.I'd be interested in these too
Just realized Nautilus has LEGENDS on its ergoplanck kit. Laser is really need that legend too to keep the "chaotic future" vibe burn brighter!
Just realized Nautilus has LEGENDS on its ergoplanck kit. Laser is really need that legend too to keep the "chaotic future" vibe burn brighter!
Those legends would probably make it more expensive right? Plus, Nautilus is getting the legends made so I assume the set would take longer to make maybe?
Is there any chance of adding VIM arrows now that GMK has the molds? Maybe in the novelties kit, they'd look great on this set.I'd be interested in these too
Just realized Nautilus has LEGENDS on its ergoplanck kit. Laser is really need that legend too to keep the "chaotic future" vibe burn brighter!Yes, but did you realize that Nautilus has sacrificed ergonomics for aesthetics? Apparently convex keycaps can't have legends, and therefore many thumb keycaps in Nautilus are concave.
Just realized Nautilus has LEGENDS on its ergoplanck kit. Laser is really need that legend too to keep the "chaotic future" vibe burn brighter!Yes, but did you realize that Nautilus has sacrificed ergonomics for aesthetics? Apparently convex keycaps can't have legends, and therefore many thumb keycaps in Nautilus are concave.
I prefer blank planck mods myself. Nautilus is pretty awesome, but not for me because of that.Just realized Nautilus has LEGENDS on its ergoplanck kit. Laser is really need that legend too to keep the "chaotic future" vibe burn brighter!Yes, but did you realize that Nautilus has sacrificed ergonomics for aesthetics? Apparently convex keycaps can't have legends, and therefore many thumb keycaps in Nautilus are concave.
Ah I see. I'm not using ErgoDox tho so I'm missing that point. I believe Zambumon is aware of them already but the last couples of GB shows that ErgoDox kit with legend outperform the blank counterpart, it almost double in number on SA Carbon, so I think that justify the final decision to the legend/not.
Planck users are affected as well. The Lower and Raise keycaps are concave.Just realized Nautilus has LEGENDS on its ergoplanck kit. Laser is really need that legend too to keep the "chaotic future" vibe burn brighter!Yes, but did you realize that Nautilus has sacrificed ergonomics for aesthetics? Apparently convex keycaps can't have legends, and therefore many thumb keycaps in Nautilus are concave.
Ah I see. I'm not using ErgoDox tho so I'm missing that point. I believe Zambumon is aware of them already but the last couples of GB shows that ErgoDox kit with legend outperform the blank counterpart, it almost double in number on SA Carbon, so I think that justify the final decision to the legend/not.
Any progress updates? Absolutely can't wait to splurge on this kit when it drops!
Sorry for this I didnt bother to go through any of the comments (I'm important), will this set drops once Nautilus is over?
Nautilus ends on the 20th, and I've been told that Laser drops immediately after.Sorry for this I didnt bother to go through any of the comments (I'm important), will this set drops once Nautilus is over?
Fixt that for you :P
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To answer your question. Yes, obviously this set will drop after nautilus and not before (nautilus has dropped now).
If however you are actually trying to ask when, we are only guessing. The most specific timeframe I believe we have been given is like after nautilus to either nov or dec. but as you can see, definitely after nautilus.
Nautilus ends on the 20th, and I've been told that Laser drops immediately after.Sorry for this I didnt bother to go through any of the comments (I'm important), will this set drops once Nautilus is over?
Fixt that for you :P
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To answer your question. Yes, obviously this set will drop after nautilus and not before (nautilus has dropped now).
If however you are actually trying to ask when, we are only guessing. The most specific timeframe I believe we have been given is like after nautilus to either nov or dec. but as you can see, definitely after nautilus.
Due to the magnitude of the project and all parts involved, I can't provide you with a solid launch date just yet. But expect it to happen between the conclusion of Nautilus and November, 2017.
Nautilus ends on the 20th, and I've been told that Laser drops immediately after.Sorry for this I didnt bother to go through any of the comments (I'm important), will this set drops once Nautilus is over?
Fixt that for you :P
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To answer your question. Yes, obviously this set will drop after nautilus and not before (nautilus has dropped now).
If however you are actually trying to ask when, we are only guessing. The most specific timeframe I believe we have been given is like after nautilus to either nov or dec. but as you can see, definitely after nautilus.
This vs solarized dark? Already getting nautilus, but figuring what the 2nd set will be.
What are people in the thread getting out of these?
At least one unit of each kit from this :cool:This vs solarized dark? Already getting nautilus, but figuring what the 2nd set will be.
What are people in the thread getting out of these?
This ;)
Skipping nautilus. Gonna grab a few extra of this for sure. The design and effort on this design is on a whole different level :cool:At least one unit of each kit from this :cool:This vs solarized dark? Already getting nautilus, but figuring what the 2nd set will be.
What are people in the thread getting out of these?
This ;)
This vs solarized dark? Already getting nautilus, but figuring what the 2nd set will be.
What are people in the thread getting out of these?
This vs solarized dark? Already getting nautilus, but figuring what the 2nd set will be.Skipped Solarized and Nautilus personally. But I've already got GMK Skeletor, SA HyperFuse, and GMK Ocean Dolch on the way shortly. I'll be getting a full set with latin alphas and novelties from laser.
What are people in the thread getting out of these?
This vs solarized dark? Already getting nautilus, but figuring what the 2nd set will be.
What are people in the thread getting out of these?
This vs solarized dark? Already getting nautilus, but figuring what the 2nd set will be.
What are people in the thread getting out of these?
This vs solarized dark? Already getting nautilus, but figuring what the 2nd set will be.
What are people in the thread getting out of these?
I'm starting to realize I need this to play and enjoy Cyberpunk 2077 to the fullest, guess I'll be in this and Nautilus.
I'm starting to realize I need this to play and enjoy Cyberpunk 2077 to the fullest, guess I'll be in this and Nautilus.
I'm starting to realize I need this to play and enjoy Cyberpunk 2077 to the fullest, guess I'll be in this and Nautilus.
You need some SP SA set to enjoy Cyberpunk 2077, I guess. They can even be both delivered to you the same month.
Already have SA, def prefer GMK for gaming.I'm starting to realize I need this to play and enjoy Cyberpunk 2077 to the fullest, guess I'll be in this and Nautilus.
You need some SP SA set to enjoy Cyberpunk 2077, I guess. They can even be both delivered to you the same month.
I'd buy both really, but definitely prefer GMK. SA would look nice tho.
I'm starting to realize I need this to play and enjoy Cyberpunk 2077 to the fullest, guess I'll be in this and Nautilus.
Nautilus ends on the 20th, and I've been told that Laser drops immediately after.Sorry for this I didnt bother to go through any of the comments (I'm important), will this set drops once Nautilus is over?
Fixt that for you :P
Read up 1 post.
To answer your question. Yes, obviously this set will drop after nautilus and not before (nautilus has dropped now).
If however you are actually trying to ask when, we are only guessing. The most specific timeframe I believe we have been given is like after nautilus to either nov or dec. but as you can see, definitely after nautilus.
This is a direct quote from mito on massdrop 3 weeks ago:QuoteDue to the magnitude of the project and all parts involved, I can't provide you with a solid launch date just yet. But expect it to happen between the conclusion of Nautilus and November, 2017.
Unless you have heard anything other than this from massdrop or mito, I am assuming it is a guess. So who said that it's immediately after?
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Nautilus ends on the 20th, and I've been told that Laser drops immediately after.Sorry for this I didnt bother to go through any of the comments (I'm important), will this set drops once Nautilus is over?
Fixt that for you :P
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To answer your question. Yes, obviously this set will drop after nautilus and not before (nautilus has dropped now).
If however you are actually trying to ask when, we are only guessing. The most specific timeframe I believe we have been given is like after nautilus to either nov or dec. but as you can see, definitely after nautilus.
Told by who?
Would love to see a Colemak/Dvorak kit now that GMK has the molds. I'd be all over it. ☺️
Did anyone notice that there's an R4 Page Down key missing? I would assume that's what the R3 Page Up key is there to compliment...
Yes there is an R3 PgUp but no R4 PgDn, would be nice to have for sure! Also wasn't sure if "Caps Loco" was intended :)
This idea would work well on 75% as well, with the extra row on the right, but I don't know how you could decide which ones get a new row assignment.
With this set, it might be better to take some of the 1U novelties and make them in R2, R3, and R4 instead of having all the 1U novelties be R1. Then you could use novelties in the correct profile for the keys in the extra column on the right of a 65%, or the 1U shift and key to the right of up on a 60% with arrows, or whatever.
Would love to see a Colemak/Dvorak kit now that GMK has the molds. I'd be all over it. ☺️
Would love to see a Colemak/Dvorak kit now that GMK has the molds. I'd be all over it. ☺️MiTo has already stated that there will be a DC kit.
Another request for authenticity: I'm reading Neuromancer now (for thee 4th time, I guess) and DEX pill is definatelly octagonal.
Put something together with the idea laid out in split backspace 75% while waiting for ETF to post dead birds.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/333829059714744340/333829113687310346/Laser-75-layout.png)
Would love to see a Colemak/Dvorak kit now that GMK has the molds. I'd be all over it. ☺️
It will be hard because Laser has Gaijin/Hiragana. People who use Colemak/Dvorak mostly touch type and some of them (me included) just prefer matching the theme with unique alphabets rather than standard Colemak/Dvorak.
Would love to see a Colemak/Dvorak kit now that GMK has the molds. I'd be all over it. ☺️MiTo has already stated that there will be a DC kit.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89079.msg2439668#msg2439668
Any chance mito of adding 1.5 r4 novelties to support tsangan?
Any chance mito of adding 1.5 r4 novelties to support tsangan?
1.5 R4 novelties needed for WKL as well!
Yooo, The nordic kit is missing a important key which is the extra 1u right of the 1,25 shiftIt's in the base kit
cant finish the layout without that key :(
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You can always refer to this for the best minimum coverage for European layouts
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0
We need that key :)
:'( :'( Everyday I look at this thread and feel sad because it looks like hiragana only won't make it... the things that could have been, man.
The Euro kit is missing at least ç and ñ to support Spanish layout. Also <> but the Base kit has a <>| key, it could do.
No, the one on the base kit has a pipe instead of a slash.Yooo, The nordic kit is missing a important key which is the extra 1u right of the 1,25 shiftIt's in the base kit
cant finish the layout without that key :(
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You can always refer to this for the best minimum coverage for European layouts
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0
We need that key :)
Yooo, The nordic kit is missing a important key which is the extra 1u right of the 1,25 shiftIt's in the base kit
cant finish the layout without that key :(
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You can always refer to this for the best minimum coverage for European layouts
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0
We need that key :)
The Euro kit is missing at least ç and ñ to support Spanish layout. Also <> but the Base kit has a <>| key, it could do.No, the one on the base kit has a pipe instead of a slash.Yooo, The nordic kit is missing a important key which is the extra 1u right of the 1,25 shiftIt's in the base kit
cant finish the layout without that key :(
(Attachment Link)
You can always refer to this for the best minimum coverage for European layouts
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0
We need that key :)
If the pipe was removed, that same key would fit more layouts.
:'( :'( Everyday I look at this thread and feel sad because it looks like hiragana only won't make it... the things that could have been, man.
I thought Mito IMPLIED both might happen since there was no clear leader when it went from 3->2.
Nautilus is finishing in a day and id assume laser is next?
Does anyone know if there might a SA set inbetween laser and nautilus?
Nautilus is finishing in a day and id assume laser is next?
Does anyone know if there might a SA set inbetween laser and nautilus?
:rolleyes:
Nautilus is finishing in a day and id assume laser is next?
Does anyone know if there might a SA set inbetween laser and nautilus?
:rolleyes:
So SA Oblivion for august and laser in september then. Nice!
Please edit the Norde kit and add Alt Gr Layers to 7, 8, 9, 0 and the ?ß keys.
Also please add the key ^°, like Nautilus did.
+1 for wodan's ISO-International essentials.
I'm very interested in this set.
Splittable spacebars seem to be a common theme lately, and I for one really enjoy splitting anything I can. Now, I've said it before, but adding a blank 1.25u key to the spacebars kit would be a great addition.On a split backspace backspace is ussually where the pipe key. Very few boards actually use 1u backspace.
At least all of the boards below incorporate a 1.25u blank in their split spacebar design. That would be full split spacebar support for all of these boards with the addition of only a single blank.
- BananaSplit60: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89896.0
- EXENT: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.0
- TX-CP: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83572.0
- YAS62: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87511.0
- TGR-910: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.0
- M65-A: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.0
Also, I see that the kits are missing a R1 1u backspace. That would be pretty useful to have as well, as you can practically split the backspace on almost any board. The other split half options are already included.
On a split backspace backspace is ussually where the pipe key. Very few boards actually use 1u backspace.
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Id rather see a row 2 one for 40% boardsOn a split backspace backspace is ussually where the pipe key. Very few boards actually use 1u backspace.
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I use an ISO enter (mock me all you want), and that specific backspace placement happens to be pretty much the only viable one, and I very much enjoy splitting the backspace.
It's really not that exotic cap to include in a GMK set anyway, and would surely be nice for anyone to have the option for it.
Id rather see a row 2 one for 40% boards
@MiTo: When's this releasing on MD?
I'm asking because I see Godspeed XDA is up on August 1st, but I can't get in on that set without knowing when GMK Laser will drop... Laser has priority, but I'd still love to get Godspeed. So when's what? My teets are depleted, not much more milking one can do on me anymore...
@MiTo: When's this releasing on MD?
I'm asking because I see Godspeed XDA is up on August 1st, but I can't get in on that set without knowing when GMK Laser will drop... Laser has priority, but I'd still love to get Godspeed. So when's what? My teets are depleted, not much more milking one can do on me anymore...
Dont have any info, but since mito run both XDA and this, i would GUESS that Laser will probably not be the next set in line. Probably SA oblivion.
Ah yea. OK then, Oktober will work@MiTo: When's this releasing on MD?
I'm asking because I see Godspeed XDA is up on August 1st, but I can't get in on that set without knowing when GMK Laser will drop... Laser has priority, but I'd still love to get Godspeed. So when's what? My teets are depleted, not much more milking one can do on me anymore...
Dont have any info, but since mito run both XDA and this, i would GUESS that Laser will probably not be the next set in line. Probably SA oblivion.
Sounds like we're a lock for October then.
Is this the best novelty kit ever?
Is this the best novelty kit ever?
It could only be better if the set was DSA so you could use all the novelties anywhere on the board. That said, this is still a definite buy for me ;D
So you mean DSA > GMK :pIs this the best novelty kit ever?
It could only be better if the set was DSA so you could use all the novelties anywhere on the board. That said, this is still a definite buy for me ;D
GMK > DSA, though. If this set were DSA I'd be so tempted but I can't type on a non-sculpted set anymore.
option sets for WASDEF (for those ESDF of us out there)
option set for vim movement keys and a terminal ~ key?
Inclusion of the two above would make this a must buy for me.
Hey MiTo, would you consider centering the legends like you did on Pulse and Godspeed???
Can it be LASER time now? :-[
Can it be LASER time now? :-[
NO, it's XDA Godspeed time!
I don't mind the wait since my wallet gets a little fatter before I starve it :thumb:Yeah another month or two will let me recoup from having to rebuild my GSX96. In the meantime I'm really enjoying the SA Cyan/Dolch I got.
Thor Ragnarok trailer... all I can think of is GMK Laser
Trying to catch up with this thread - will Laser immediately follow XDA Godspeed, or is there another set planned in between?
Trying to catch up with this thread - will Laser immediately follow XDA Godspeed, or is there another set planned in between?
I think SA Oblivion starts in early september. Then it might be Laser.
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did an pixel arts in preparation for this sweet sweet set:
HHKB:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XVjyVog.png)
60%:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bJBXpIi.png)
69-Key ISO:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wTLAZ0I.png)
TKL:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KAsh0gt.png)
Any chance the international set would include the "Ç"?GMK sets never have. From a fellow ç user
So ready for this. Bring on the Laser!
did an pixel arts in preparation for this sweet sweet set:
HHKB:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XVjyVog.png)
60%:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bJBXpIi.png)
69-Key ISO:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wTLAZ0I.png)
TKL:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KAsh0gt.png)
96-key?
thank you!
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thank you!
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voilà:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rZMaJAC.png)
EDIT: (for us ISO nuts a WKL TKL) ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cTGysXe.png)
thank you!
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voilà:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rZMaJAC.png)
EDIT: (for us ISO nuts a WKL TKL) ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cTGysXe.png)
Any chance we can get a 1800 layout version? :)
What about 7u hhkb :p
Any chance we can get a 1800 layout version? :)What about 7u hhkb :p
specific case-colour wish?
Any chance we can get a 1800 layout version? :)What about 7u hhkb :p
specific case-colour wish?
I'm good with whatever really. I'll have black white and purple cases by the time I get it lol.
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thank you!
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voilà:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/rZMaJAC.png)
EDIT: (for us ISO nuts a WKL TKL) ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/cTGysXe.png)
These look great!
Any chance we can get a 1800 layout version? :)
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What about 7u hhkb :p
Any chance we can get a 1800 layout version? :)oh also, which 1800 layout? The original Cherry G80-1800 layout? or compacted one of recent customs and leopolds?
Any chance we can get a 1800 layout version? :)oh also, which 1800 layout? The original Cherry G80-1800 layout? or compacted one of recent customs and leopolds?
did both:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VgKuLdx.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/B2lHfKk.png)
What about 7u hhkb :p
wannabe 7U mx-hhkb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/s6TWkLE.png)
:p
EDIT: missed the part with the 2U backspace... here you go:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvsLGc8.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oyMHdN1.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HoyNwBK.png)
My zz96 is ready to catch this drop
Is there a chance for an ISO Enter with the green font like the ANSI enter in the novelties R3? I love this combo!
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Could the ErgoPlanck 2u spacebar be changed to mod-colored? People seem to prefer that on ortho boards.
Also, the spacebars kit could use a 1.25u cap. It's needed for layouts like the Banana Split and DZ60.
Splittable spacebars seem to be a common theme lately, and I for one really enjoy splitting anything I can. Now, I've said it before, but adding a blank 1.25u key to the spacebars kit would be a great addition.
At least all of the boards below incorporate a 1.25u blank in their split spacebar design. That would be full split spacebar support for all of these boards with the addition of only a single blank.
- BananaSplit60: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89896.0
- EXENT: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.0
- TX-CP: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83572.0
- YAS62: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87511.0
- TGR-910: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.0
- M65-A: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.0
- TINA: https://kbdfans.cn/products/tina-keyboard-60?variant=38954516941 (Edit: added this one to the list as well)
- DZ60: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/dz60-60-pcb?variant=40971616717 (Edit: added this one to the list as well)
Also, I see that the kits are missing a R1 1u backspace. That would be pretty useful to have as well, as you can practically split the backspace on almost any board. The other split half options are already included.
Quoting myself from a few pages back:Splittable spacebars seem to be a common theme lately, and I for one really enjoy splitting anything I can. Now, I've said it before, but adding a blank 1.25u key to the spacebars kit would be a great addition.
At least all of the boards below incorporate a 1.25u blank in their split spacebar design. That would be full split spacebar support for all of these boards with the addition of only a single blank.
- BananaSplit60: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89896.0
- EXENT: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.0
- TX-CP: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83572.0
- YAS62: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87511.0
- TGR-910: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.0
- M65-A: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.0
- TINA: https://kbdfans.cn/products/tina-keyboard-60?variant=38954516941 (Edit: added this one to the list as well)
- DZ60: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/dz60-60-pcb?variant=40971616717 (Edit: added this one to the list as well)
Also, I see that the kits are missing a R1 1u backspace. That would be pretty useful to have as well, as you can practically split the backspace on almost any board. The other split half options are already included.
Quoting myself from a few pages back:Splittable spacebars seem to be a common theme lately, and I for one really enjoy splitting anything I can. Now, I've said it before, but adding a blank 1.25u key to the spacebars kit would be a great addition.
At least all of the boards below incorporate a 1.25u blank in their split spacebar design. That would be full split spacebar support for all of these boards with the addition of only a single blank.
- BananaSplit60: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89896.0
- EXENT: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.0
- TX-CP: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83572.0
- YAS62: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87511.0
- TGR-910: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.0
- M65-A: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.0
- TINA: https://kbdfans.cn/products/tina-keyboard-60?variant=38954516941 (Edit: added this one to the list as well)
- DZ60: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/dz60-60-pcb?variant=40971616717 (Edit: added this one to the list as well)
Also, I see that the kits are missing a R1 1u backspace. That would be pretty useful to have as well, as you can practically split the backspace on almost any board. The other split half options are already included.
Adding a 1.25 blank for split space would be legendary. Mis-matched colors with splitspacebars don't look as clean. Maybe even a pink pack ;)
Just to play devils advocate for a moment; The novelties kit already has 4 1.25u keys that you could use in a split space layout like that. So even if it's not added you won't be totally left out.
Just to play devils advocate for a moment; The novelties kit already has 4 1.25u keys that you could use in a split space layout like that. So even if it's not added you won't be totally left out.
The novelty 1.25u keys are not the right color either.
does the project have a timeline yet?
the only question i need answered: when?
does the project have a timeline yet?
the only question i need answered: when?
SA oblivion is next up on massdrop. After that i hope its laser. Since soon has been answered for a long time i would guess thats the most likely scenario.
If its not laser, then it will take plenty of time to next MD GMK drop (q1 18?).
Mito hasn't posted in this thread in over two months.
Quoting myself from a few pages back:Splittable spacebars seem to be a common theme lately, and I for one really enjoy splitting anything I can. Now, I've said it before, but adding a blank 1.25u key to the spacebars kit would be a great addition.
At least all of the boards below incorporate a 1.25u blank in their split spacebar design. That would be full split spacebar support for all of these boards with the addition of only a single blank.
- BananaSplit60: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89896.0
- EXENT: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.0
- TX-CP: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83572.0
- YAS62: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87511.0
- TGR-910: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.0
- M65-A: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.0
- TINA: https://kbdfans.cn/products/tina-keyboard-60?variant=38954516941 (Edit: added this one to the list as well)
- DZ60: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/dz60-60-pcb?variant=40971616717 (Edit: added this one to the list as well)
Also, I see that the kits are missing a R1 1u backspace. That would be pretty useful to have as well, as you can practically split the backspace on almost any board. The other split half options are already included.
Adding a 1.25 blank for split space would be legendary. Mis-matched colors with splitspacebars don't look as clean. Maybe even a pink pack ;)
Just to play devils advocate for a moment; The novelties kit already has 4 1.25u keys that you could use in a split space layout like that. So even if it's not added you won't be totally left out.
I have been heavily engaged on the development of the Laser project together with the manufacturer and several other parties in order to deliver the vision for the community in it's best possible form. I read the replies here everyday, all suggestions are considered and were either worked on or are being worked on. A lack of reply does not mean I didn't acknowledge what the community had said, as I carefully read the thread, e-mails and messages everyday so I can update my Evernote with tweaks. It's easier for me to take this route, because this way I can laser focus on getting actual work/progress done since I've been handling other intensive and super exciting mech projects as well. As a side note, thanks for all the support and enthusiasm I hope you enjoy what's coming next.
That said, the UPS parcel arrived yesterday with a batch of color samples straight from GMK. I was excited to share the pictures with everyone, however to my surprise the samples I received were from switchnollie's project. I already contacted GMK and they sorted it out, I'm gonna be receiving the actual real Laser samples soon.
I'm gonna keep working on the kits and the commissions we are preparing, meanwhile you can see this cool assembly with an imaginary M65-A.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eHYrvqf.jpg)
This set looks awesome, MiTo.
Any chance the Ergodox kit will get legends?
This set looks awesome, MiTo.
Any chance the Ergodox kit will get legends?
I am studying the possibility of offering ErgoBlanck and ErgoPlanck kits.
Quoting myself from a few pages back:Splittable spacebars seem to be a common theme lately, and I for one really enjoy splitting anything I can. Now, I've said it before, but adding a blank 1.25u key to the spacebars kit would be a great addition.
At least all of the boards below incorporate a 1.25u blank in their split spacebar design. That would be full split spacebar support for all of these boards with the addition of only a single blank.
- BananaSplit60: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89896.0
- EXENT: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87213.0
- TX-CP: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83572.0
- YAS62: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87511.0
- TGR-910: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86047.0
- M65-A: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86756.0
- TINA: https://kbdfans.cn/products/tina-keyboard-60?variant=38954516941 (Edit: added this one to the list as well)
- DZ60: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/dz60-60-pcb?variant=40971616717 (Edit: added this one to the list as well)
Also, I see that the kits are missing a R1 1u backspace. That would be pretty useful to have as well, as you can practically split the backspace on almost any board. The other split half options are already included.
Adding a 1.25 blank for split space would be legendary. Mis-matched colors with splitspacebars don't look as clean. Maybe even a pink pack ;)
I have been heavily engaged on the development of the Laser project together with the manufacturer and several other parties in order to deliver the vision for the community in it's best possible form. I read the replies here everyday, all suggestions are considered and were either worked on or are being worked on. A lack of reply does not mean I didn't acknowledge what the community had said, as I carefully read the thread, e-mails and messages everyday so I can update my Evernote with tweaks. It's easier for me to take this route, because this way I can laser focus on getting actual work/progress done since I've been handling other intensive and super exciting mech projects as well. As a side note, thanks for all the support and enthusiasm I hope you enjoy what's coming next.
That said, the UPS parcel arrived yesterday with a batch of color samples straight from GMK. I was excited to share the pictures with everyone, however to my surprise the samples I received were from switchnollie's project. I already contacted GMK and they sorted it out, I'm gonna be receiving the actual real Laser samples soon.
I'm gonna keep working on the kits and the commissions we are preparing, meanwhile you can see this cool assembly with an imaginary M65-A.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/eHYrvqf.jpg)
OK, but when? It's been a year since this was first pitched. Should we expect a 2017 group buy? Strike while the iron is hot, MiTo. Hype doesn't last forever.
OK, but when? It's been a year since this was first pitched. Should we expect a 2017 group buy? Strike while the iron is hot, MiTo. Hype doesn't last forever.
Speak for yourself, I'll wait 4 more years for this bad boy.
Not that I want to.
OK, but when? It's been a year since this was first pitched. Should we expect a 2017 group buy? Strike while the iron is hot, MiTo. Hype doesn't last forever.
Speak for yourself, I'll wait 4 more years for this bad boy.
Not that I want to.
One man doth not a hype make.
Yeah, I have keys that will hold me over until this comes out, the is honestly the only set I've seen where I actually care about the novelties and extra kits so if it takes a month or two longer I'm good with it.OK, but when? It's been a year since this was first pitched. Should we expect a 2017 group buy? Strike while the iron is hot, MiTo. Hype doesn't last forever.
Speak for yourself, I'll wait 4 more years for this bad boy.
Not that I want to.
One man doth not a hype make.
I'd rather have him take his time and make a set with thoughtful novelties and a high degree of compatibility than have him rush and put out a mediocre base kit. Things rarely live up to their max hype anyways so might as well take your time and make something of high quality.
OK, but when? It's been a year since this was first pitched. Should we expect a 2017 group buy? Strike while the iron is hot, MiTo. Hype doesn't last forever.
Speak for yourself, I'll wait 4 more years for this bad boy.
Not that I want to.
One man doth not a hype make.
I'd rather have him take his time and make a set with thoughtful novelties and a high degree of compatibility than have him rush and put out a mediocre base kit. Things rarely live up to their max hype anyways so might as well take your time and make something of high quality.
OK, but when? It's been a year since this was first pitched. Should we expect a 2017 group buy? Strike while the iron is hot, MiTo. Hype doesn't last forever.
Speak for yourself, I'll wait 4 more years for this bad boy.
Not that I want to.
One man doth not a hype make.
I'd rather have him take his time and make a set with thoughtful novelties and a high degree of compatibility than have him rush and put out a mediocre base kit. Things rarely live up to their max hype anyways so might as well take your time and make something of high quality.
I hear this all the time now and it's infuriating. Don't be a fanboy.
Good things are worth waiting for, yes. There's also such a thing as "window of opportunity". Creating the perfect set means nothing if you can't meet MOQ because all your fans lost interest.
.... It's easier for me to take this route, because this way I can laser focus on getting actual work/progress.....
OK, but when? It's been a year since this was first pitched. Should we expect a 2017 group buy? Strike while the iron is hot, MiTo. Hype doesn't last forever.
Speak for yourself, I'll wait 4 more years for this bad boy.
Not that I want to.
One man doth not a hype make.
I'd rather have him take his time and make a set with thoughtful novelties and a high degree of compatibility than have him rush and put out a mediocre base kit. Things rarely live up to their max hype anyways so might as well take your time and make something of high quality.
I hear this all the time now and it's infuriating. Don't be a fanboy.
Good things are worth waiting for, yes. There's also such a thing as "window of opportunity". Creating the perfect set means nothing if you can't meet MOQ because all your fans lost interest.
What we are creating is something truly special, the interest check has been exciting but you ain't seen nothing. GMK and I are working together and trying some stuff that wasn't exactly attempted before. Not to mention that the project expanded to things that go beyond a keyset. Just a couple more weeks and you'll be introduced to the universe. It's coming this Q4, the schedule didn't change.
What we are creating is something truly special, the interest check has been exciting but you ain't seen nothing. GMK and I are working together and trying some stuff that wasn't exactly attempted before. Not to mention that the project expanded to things that go beyond a keyset. Just a couple more weeks and you'll be introduced to the universe. It's coming this Q4, the schedule didn't change.
What we are creating is something truly special, the interest check has been exciting but you ain't seen nothing. GMK and I are working together and trying some stuff that wasn't exactly attempted before. Not to mention that the project expanded to things that go beyond a keyset. Just a couple more weeks and you'll be introduced to the universe. It's coming this Q4, the schedule didn't change.
Two questions
-What keyboards do you plan to put this on?
-How many sets / what sets are you getting?
Myself, i hope i will find a purple case for this. Probably picking up x2 base kits + novelties.
Two questions
-What keyboards do you plan to put this on?
-How many sets / what sets are you getting?
Myself, i hope i will find a purple case for this. Probably picking up x2 base kits + novelties.
Two questions
-What keyboards do you plan to put this on?
-How many sets / what sets are you getting?
Myself, i hope i will find a purple case for this. Probably picking up x2 base kits + novelties.
This set looks awesome, MiTo.
Any chance the Ergodox kit will get legends?
I am studying the possibility of offering ErgoBlanck and ErgoPlanck kits.
Legended ergodox keys are lame. Who actually uses keybinds that correspond to the "standard" set of ergodox legends?
I'd be much more interested in SA oblivion if the ergodox set didn't have legends.
Legended ergodox keys are lame. Who actually uses keybinds that correspond to the "standard" set of ergodox legends?
I'd be much more interested in SA oblivion if the ergodox set didn't have legends.
What we are creating is something truly special, the interest check has been exciting but you ain't seen nothing. GMK and I are working together and trying some stuff that wasn't exactly attempted before. Not to mention that the project expanded to things that go beyond a keyset. Just a couple more weeks and you'll be introduced to the universe. It's coming this Q4, the schedule didn't change.this is why i have mad respect for MiTo. He has a vision to do something that has never been done before, and he isn't afraid to pursue his vision over a safe payout. this is what separates the great artists from the ones we all eventually forget about. keep it up MiTo. you're a trailblazer who will be remembered in the mk community history, no matter how obscure that may be:/
Legended ergodox keys are lame. Who actually uses keybinds that correspond to the "standard" set of ergodox legends?
I'd be much more interested in SA oblivion if the ergodox set didn't have legends.
Legended ergodox keys are lame. Who actually uses keybinds that correspond to the "standard" set of ergodox legends?
I'd be much more interested in SA oblivion if the ergodox set didn't have legends.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Two questions
-What keyboards do you plan to put this on?
-How many sets / what sets are you getting?
Myself, I hope I will find a purple case for this. Probably picking up x2 base kits + novelties.
This set looks awesome, MiTo.
Any chance the Ergodox kit will get legends?
I am studying the possibility of offering ErgoBlanck and ErgoPlanck kits.
did an pixel arts in preparation for this sweet sweet set:
HHKB:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/XVjyVog.png)
60%:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bJBXpIi.png)
69-Key ISO:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/wTLAZ0I.png)
TKL:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KAsh0gt.png)
Legended ergodox keys are lame. Who actually uses keybinds that correspond to the "standard" set of ergodox legends?
I'd be much more interested in SA oblivion if the ergodox set didn't have legends.
Legended ergodox keys are lame. Who actually uses keybinds that correspond to the "standard" set of ergodox legends?
I'd be much more interested in SA oblivion if the ergodox set didn't have legends.
I don't care at all if the legends don't match what the key is programmed to. A bunch of blanks just looks odd to me if the entire set isn't blank.
Granite and Nautilus Ergodox sets sold fairly well so there's a good amount of people that like keys with legends.
Legended ergodox keys are lame. Who actually uses keybinds that correspond to the "standard" set of ergodox legends?
I'd be much more interested in SA oblivion if the ergodox set didn't have legends.
I don't care at all if the legends don't match what the key is programmed to. A bunch of blanks just looks odd to me if the entire set isn't blank.
Granite and Nautilus Ergodox sets sold fairly well so there's a good amount of people that like keys with legends.
The differences here are:
GMK Custom Color MOQ is higher.
The SA Oblivion Ergodox mods are just gibberish and are actually common keys between multiple sets (for example many of the 1u keys like orange XOR are in the Assembly kit AND the ergodox kit others are in the macros.asm kit, etc) This lets them optimize production to make a bunch of different sets at once and produce the colors in batches. It also means they work regardless of your layout. A correctly labeled GMK set would have no such benefits.
Granite is dyesub and is irrelevant, sure ergodox kits sell at $30, but no GMK ergodox kit will ever be $30. Nautilus ONLY sold with legends, so you can't really quantify if the people who bought it actually prefer legends or not, just that they are willing to still buy them regardless.
Blank ergodox also makes it cleaner looking to use paired with the alternate alphas since there is 0 chance MULTIPLE ergodox kits would ever hit moq.
Legended ergodox keys are lame. Who actually uses keybinds that correspond to the "standard" set of ergodox legends?
I'd be much more interested in SA oblivion if the ergodox set didn't have legends.
I don't care at all if the legends don't match what the key is programmed to. A bunch of blanks just looks odd to me if the entire set isn't blank.
Granite and Nautilus Ergodox sets sold fairly well so there's a good amount of people that like keys with legends.
The differences here are:
GMK Custom Color MOQ is higher.
The SA Oblivion Ergodox mods are just gibberish and are actually common keys between multiple sets (for example many of the 1u keys like orange XOR are in the Assembly kit AND the ergodox kit others are in the macros.asm kit, etc) This lets them optimize production to make a bunch of different sets at once and produce the colors in batches. It also means they work regardless of your layout. A correctly labeled GMK set would have no such benefits.
Granite is dyesub and is irrelevant, sure ergodox kits sell at $30, but no GMK ergodox kit will ever be $30. Nautilus ONLY sold with legends, so you can't really quantify if the people who bought it actually prefer legends or not, just that they are willing to still buy them regardless.
Blank ergodox also makes it cleaner looking to use paired with the alternate alphas since there is 0 chance MULTIPLE ergodox kits would ever hit moq.
I would buy the ergodox kit only if it was legended.
Legended ergodox keys are lame. Who actually uses keybinds that correspond to the "standard" set of ergodox legends?
I'd be much more interested in SA oblivion if the ergodox set didn't have legends.
I don't care at all if the legends don't match what the key is programmed to. A bunch of blanks just looks odd to me if the entire set isn't blank.
Granite and Nautilus Ergodox sets sold fairly well so there's a good amount of people that like keys with legends.
The differences here are:
GMK Custom Color MOQ is higher.
The SA Oblivion Ergodox mods are just gibberish and are actually common keys between multiple sets (for example many of the 1u keys like orange XOR are in the Assembly kit AND the ergodox kit others are in the macros.asm kit, etc) This lets them optimize production to make a bunch of different sets at once and produce the colors in batches. It also means they work regardless of your layout. A correctly labeled GMK set would have no such benefits.
Granite is dyesub and is irrelevant, sure ergodox kits sell at $30, but no GMK ergodox kit will ever be $30. Nautilus ONLY sold with legends, so you can't really quantify if the people who bought it actually prefer legends or not, just that they are willing to still buy them regardless.
Blank ergodox also makes it cleaner looking to use paired with the alternate alphas since there is 0 chance MULTIPLE ergodox kits would ever hit moq.
I would buy the ergodox kit only if it was legended.
Legended ergodox keys are lame. Who actually uses keybinds that correspond to the "standard" set of ergodox legends?
I'd be much more interested in SA oblivion if the ergodox set didn't have legends.
I don't care at all if the legends don't match what the key is programmed to. A bunch of blanks just looks odd to me if the entire set isn't blank.
Granite and Nautilus Ergodox sets sold fairly well so there's a good amount of people that like keys with legends.
The differences here are:
GMK Custom Color MOQ is higher.
The SA Oblivion Ergodox mods are just gibberish and are actually common keys between multiple sets (for example many of the 1u keys like orange XOR are in the Assembly kit AND the ergodox kit others are in the macros.asm kit, etc) This lets them optimize production to make a bunch of different sets at once and produce the colors in batches. It also means they work regardless of your layout. A correctly labeled GMK set would have no such benefits.
Granite is dyesub and is irrelevant, sure ergodox kits sell at $30, but no GMK ergodox kit will ever be $30. Nautilus ONLY sold with legends, so you can't really quantify if the people who bought it actually prefer legends or not, just that they are willing to still buy them regardless.
Blank ergodox also makes it cleaner looking to use paired with the alternate alphas since there is 0 chance MULTIPLE ergodox kits would ever hit moq.
I would buy the ergodox kit only if it was legended.
I would only buy the ergodox kit if it DOESN'T have legends. With a board that is so readily and widely customized, it makes more sense (to me) to have blank keys than to potentially provide keys with the wrong legends/profile.
Im down for base, novelties and norde kits. Finally an ISO GMK set!Finally ;D
If this gets made I will buy base, novelties, euro and ergoplanck. Maybe hiragana set if I got my spending pants on.
If this gets made I will buy base, novelties, euro and ergoplanck. Maybe hiragana set if I got my spending pants on.
It's gonna happen, it's just a matter of when
As I understand it, the GB will be through massdrop? How is the MoQ for the kits with GMK through Massdrop? Getting an euro kit is pretty much the make or brake for me.
As I understand it, the GB will be through massdrop? How is the MoQ for the kits with GMK through Massdrop? Getting an euro kit is pretty much the make or brake for me.
MOQ for Base will be 250 units due to custom colors. Side-kits are usually 100 units on MD, but GMK also tends to agree to do less e.g. on International kits, they're probably cool with that due to 1500+ base units selling. For Laser, I suspect we will see 2500 units for base
Awesome looking set. Feels a bit wasteful having to buy an Ergodox kit to build a Planck/Preonic/Nyquist, especially since the base kit is so generous with R4 1u modifiers. Personally I'd like to see the following Ortho kit:I'll second this. The IC has run so long that I've probabaly flip-flopped but I've come to realize I don't really like blanks unless the entire set is blank. I'd really like to have legend-ed mods with legend-ed alphas and I'll use the wrong legend if I must but would (obviously) prefer the correct legend. I fully understand the historic reasons for GMK kit decisions but I suspect that Laser will sell enough that you can probably push through a dedicated Planck or Planck/Preonic set with legends.
R3 1u: Esc, Enter, Ctrl
R4 1u: Shift (x2)
R4c 1u: 2x blanks of each color
R4c 2u: 2x bright purple (i.e. the regular space bar color)
With those keys you'd be able to cover a lot of different layouts using only 13 extra keys and without having to resort to using a lot of blanks along the sides
Are we 100% on that this will be sold in NA via Massdrop? Is there any alternative for NA people?
After Massdrop's power play with the Whitefox drop on Kickstarter (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/703kbk/wtf_whitefoxnitefox_and_massdrop/), I can't in good consciousness purchase from Massdrop.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kTWK02o.jpg)
Small update, a batch of color samples arrived last week and this is the most accurate photo I could arrange, with the equipment I currently have. I'm hoping to visit a friend this weekend, his mother is a professional photographer and I think she'll be able to help us with proper macro shots. The following keycaps are the hot pink and midgnight modifiers, GMK is working on more samples featuring the rest of colors, etc. I also shot a secondary photo with some of the confirmed colors for the arcade characters and WASD/HJKL/etc (gasoline accents). I wasn't happy with the color of the alphas and cyan on the alphas legends/ghost therefore it's being adjusted as well. Same for the lime green.
If I could describe these two colors (hot pink and midnight) using words, I'd say that the hot pink is very bright almost redish, it's an ultra pink unicorn magenta. As for the midnight in my perception it's a dark purple blueish color of some sort, very elegant and kinda mysterious.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kTWK02o.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Nq6AyGc.jpg)
Small update, a batch of color samples arrived last week and this is the most accurate photo I could arrange, with the equipment I currently have. I'm hoping to visit a friend this weekend, his mother is a professional photographer and I think she'll be able to help us with proper macro shots. The following keycaps are the hot pink and midgnight modifiers, GMK is working on more samples featuring the rest of colors, etc. I also shot a secondary photo with some of the confirmed colors for the arcade characters and WASD/HJKL/etc (gasoline accents). I wasn't happy with the color of the alphas and cyan on the alphas legends/ghost therefore it's being adjusted as well. Same for the lime green.
If I could describe these two colors (hot pink and midnight) using words, I'd say that the hot pink is very bright almost redish, it's an ultra pink unicorn magenta. As for the midnight in my perception it's a dark purple blueish color of some sort, very elegant and kinda mysterious.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kTWK02o.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Nq6AyGc.jpg)
Maybe it's the picture, but the mod color seems less purple than it does in the renders. I'll be a little disappointed if that's the case.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1jrUeZT.jpg)
Small update, a batch of color samples arrived last week and this is the most accurate photo I could arrange, with the equipment I currently have. I'm hoping to visit a friend this weekend, his mother is a professional photographer and I think she'll be able to help us with proper macro shots. The following keycaps are the hot pink and midgnight modifiers, GMK is working on more samples featuring the rest of colors, etc. I also shot a secondary photo with some of the confirmed colors for the arcade characters and WASD/HJKL/etc (gasoline accents). I wasn't happy with the color of the alphas and cyan on the alphas legends/ghost therefore it's being adjusted as well. Same for the lime green.
If I could describe these two colors (hot pink and midnight) using words, I'd say that the hot pink is very bright almost redish, it's an ultra pink unicorn magenta. As for the midnight in my perception it's a dark purple blueish color of some sort, very elegant and kinda mysterious.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kTWK02o.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Nq6AyGc.jpg)
Maybe it's the picture, but the mod color seems less purple than it does in the renders. I'll be a little disappointed if that's the case.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1jrUeZT.jpg)
This is my observation of the purple as well. Perhaps the picture doesn't capture the color correctly? I hope that's the case. Otherwise, the color needs be adjusted.
Hey Mito, after seeing the physical samples of the pink and reading your description, how accurate do you think this rendering that autobot produced looks in combination with the Norbatouch pink TKL case?
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Here's a another photo of the case for reference.
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Are we 100% on that this will be sold in NA via Massdrop? Is there any alternative for NA people?
After Massdrop's power play with the Whitefox drop on Kickstarter (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/703kbk/wtf_whitefoxnitefox_and_massdrop/), I can't in good consciousness purchase from Massdrop.
I'll come off as a fanboy here but.. I wanna hear MD's response to this first. We don't know what the paperwork signed by IC exactly says. I have a contract with MD as well for Oblivion and it clearly outlines where the rights of the design lie.
I would love a sample if that's still possible.
I would love a sample if that's still possible.
It never was, only MiTo received a couple caps from GMK for inspection ;)
That said, if any user wants to physically see these samples, in order to match your creations with the keycap set, just let me know and I can ship you some. I think I have enough samples to cover everyone who would be interested.
I would love a sample if that's still possible.
It never was, only MiTo received a couple caps from GMK for inspection ;)
That said, if any user wants to physically see these samples, in order to match your creations with the keycap set, just let me know and I can ship you some. I think I have enough samples to cover everyone who would be interested.
Am I misunderstanding this?
This set looks awesome, MiTo.
Any chance the Ergodox kit will get legends?
I am studying the possibility of offering ErgoBlanck and ErgoPlanck kits.
Laser's looking good!
Have you considered adding essential Planck keys in the Base Kit and removing it from the ErgoPlank Kit instead? Because to cover the default layout with correct legends, you just need a few more keys.
R2 Tab, R3 Esc and R4 Enter are the 3 essential 1u keys for default Planck coverage. The additional R2 Tab will also help with some 40% layouts.
Less essential is R4 Shift (there's already an R4 Fn and R4 Hack key which can be used in its place), and R3 ' " in mod colours.
You would also need to add 2 x 1u R4C keys and 1 x 2u R4C key in the Spacebar Kit.
Doing this would result in a considerably cheaper option for Planck/Preonic users as all they need to get is Base + Spacebars.
This does mean the Base Kit and Spacebar Kit may go up slightly in price, but the resulting Ergodox kit will be reduced by a fair bit too. Of course you can leave your planned ErgoBlank kit in for people who desire blank mods.
Just some of my thoughts after Nautilus' less than desirable options for Planck/Preonic users.
Yes, I'd like to know more about what people find so distasteful about MD (anecdotal or otherwise). The only issue I've ever had is trying to get support from them after a drop has ended but even that I can understand. They're trying to run a profitable business after all. I think they have enabled me to buy products that might not otherwise see the light of day, and there's a lot of things they do operationally that probably make things run more smoothly than they otherwise might. I think we as a community need to keep that in perspective.
Yes, I'd like to know more about what people find so distasteful about MD (anecdotal or otherwise). The only issue I've ever had is trying to get support from them after a drop has ended but even that I can understand. They're trying to run a profitable business after all. I think they have enabled me to buy products that might not otherwise see the light of day, and there's a lot of things they do operationally that probably make things run more smoothly than they otherwise might. I think we as a community need to keep that in perspective.
check out what's going on between massdrop and the whitefox folks. i'm holding off on judgment until i see a response from massdrop, but i can definitely see why it concerns people.
This set looks awesome, MiTo.
Any chance the Ergodox kit will get legends?
I am studying the possibility of offering ErgoBlanck and ErgoPlanck kits.
Laser's looking good!
Have you considered adding essential Planck keys in the Base Kit and removing it from the ErgoPlank Kit instead? Because to cover the default layout with correct legends, you just need a few more keys.
R2 Tab, R3 Esc and R4 Enter are the 3 essential 1u keys for default Planck coverage. The additional R2 Tab will also help with some 40% layouts.
Less essential is R4 Shift (there's already an R4 Fn and R4 Hack key which can be used in its place), and R3 ' " in mod colours.
You would also need to add 2 x 1u R4C keys and 1 x 2u R4C key in the Spacebar Kit.
Doing this would result in a considerably cheaper option for Planck/Preonic users as all they need to get is Base + Spacebars.
This does mean the Base Kit and Spacebar Kit may go up slightly in price, but the resulting Ergodox kit will be reduced by a fair bit too. Of course you can leave your planned ErgoBlank kit in for people who desire blank mods.
Just some of my thoughts after Nautilus' less than desirable options for Planck/Preonic users.
I think nautilus base kit was one of the best ever. It covered 1800, 65's, 75's, split boards and a ton of other common form factors. Planks aren't as common as all of these boards, I don't think removing essential keys for popular layouts to substitute for plank keys is desirable.
I saw that and my initial reaction was to point the finger at MD but I agree that we all need to take a deep breath and let IC and MD work out their business decisions without jumping to conclusions or taking sides. We're all friends here!
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This set looks awesome, MiTo.
Any chance the Ergodox kit will get legends?
I am studying the possibility of offering ErgoBlanck and ErgoPlanck kits.
Laser's looking good!
Have you considered adding essential Planck keys in the Base Kit and removing it from the ErgoPlank Kit instead? Because to cover the default layout with correct legends, you just need a few more keys.
R2 Tab, R3 Esc and R4 Enter are the 3 essential 1u keys for default Planck coverage. The additional R2 Tab will also help with some 40% layouts.
Less essential is R4 Shift (there's already an R4 Fn and R4 Hack key which can be used in its place), and R3 ' " in mod colours.
You would also need to add 2 x 1u R4C keys and 1 x 2u R4C key in the Spacebar Kit.
Doing this would result in a considerably cheaper option for Planck/Preonic users as all they need to get is Base + Spacebars.
This does mean the Base Kit and Spacebar Kit may go up slightly in price, but the resulting Ergodox kit will be reduced by a fair bit too. Of course you can leave your planned ErgoBlank kit in for people who desire blank mods.
Just some of my thoughts after Nautilus' less than desirable options for Planck/Preonic users.
I think nautilus base kit was one of the best ever. It covered 1800, 65's, 75's, split boards and a ton of other common form factors. Planks aren't as common as all of these boards, I don't think removing essential keys for popular layouts to substitute for plank keys is desirable.
I never said to remove and replace essential keys for popular layouts. But instead to add a few more keys to the base kit so that Planck compatibility can be added properly.
Laser's base kit is at a point where you only need 3-4 more keys for pretty good Planck compatibility. Though you would also need to beef up the spacebar kit just a tad.
Do you think it makes sense to put these few keys in an Ergoplanck kit and then charge the astronomically high price as seen in Nautilus for what literally is a handful of keys for Planck users?
You argue that Planck keyboards are not common but with MD drops increasing in frequency (Recent Planck drop currently shipping, Preonic drop currently happening, and another Planck drop coming soon after that), and also OLKB orders increasing, I dare say that there will be a lot of interested parties in this.
I honestly think if you're aiming to be fair to the community then it would be good in the long run to add those few essential Planck keys in the base kit. Doing so will also reduce the Ergoplank kit to just an Ergodox kit and make it cheaper for Ergodox users too.
At this point I really don't know why there seems to be this fixed idea that Planck caps have to be combined with Ergodox no matter what. That might have been necessary in the past when we didn't have many unique layouts. But now that you have a base kit that's already so comprehensive and just needs a slight tweak to make everyone happy, I just fail to understand why Planck compatibility cannot be considered in the base kit.
Maybe I'm not seeing the full picture. Maybe GMK has its moulds set in a certain way that can't be changed, I don't know. But this is honestly quite frustrating for me.
I saw that and my initial reaction was to point the finger at MD but I agree that we all need to take a deep breath and let IC and MD work out their business decisions without jumping to conclusions or taking sides. We're all friends here!
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No, we're not. For MD we're just a source of profit.
Thinking that "we're all freiends here" is what lead I:C to loose the rights for their switch.
Anyway, that's off-topic: Laser will be run by them, so no point to discuss it here. As for me -- about three months ago I've decided to get only exclusive goods from them and after my issue with Canvas XDA opt-in, I've decided that Laser will be last set I get from them ever. I've considered joining Preonic drop, but decided to get it from OLKB directly.
This would be awesome, I would love to have the option of planck compatibility without dropping a bunch of extra cash.This set looks awesome, MiTo.
Any chance the Ergodox kit will get legends?
I am studying the possibility of offering ErgoBlanck and ErgoPlanck kits.
Laser's looking good!
Have you considered adding essential Planck keys in the Base Kit and removing it from the ErgoPlank Kit instead? Because to cover the default layout with correct legends, you just need a few more keys.
R2 Tab, R3 Esc and R4 Enter are the 3 essential 1u keys for default Planck coverage. The additional R2 Tab will also help with some 40% layouts.
Less essential is R4 Shift (there's already an R4 Fn and R4 Hack key which can be used in its place), and R3 ' " in mod colours.
You would also need to add 2 x 1u R4C keys and 1 x 2u R4C key in the Spacebar Kit.
Doing this would result in a considerably cheaper option for Planck/Preonic users as all they need to get is Base + Spacebars.
This does mean the Base Kit and Spacebar Kit may go up slightly in price, but the resulting Ergodox kit will be reduced by a fair bit too. Of course you can leave your planned ErgoBlank kit in for people who desire blank mods.
Just some of my thoughts after Nautilus' less than desirable options for Planck/Preonic users.
What's ETA looking like for this?
MiTo keeps alluding to this being a much bigger project than just a new GMK set
can anyone point me to the samples? I checked the start of the thread and didn't see anything I am hoping I missed them. I really looking forward to this keyset my self.
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That said, if any user wants to physically see these samples, in order to match your creations with the keycap set, just let me know and I can ship you some. I think I have enough samples to cover everyone who would be interested.
I do not remember if I weighed in on the MD thing before but I might as well now. I really dislike buying off of Massdrop because it basically guarantees sky-high import costs for me. To have sets shipped to the US from Europe and then back to Europe to get taxed, that's just silly. This is ultimately what caused me to flip-flop towards getting Solarized Dark and not waiting for this, I realised this was basically guaranteed to only be run on Massdrop.
I do not remember if I weighed in on the MD thing before but I might as well now. I really dislike buying off of Massdrop because it basically guarantees sky-high import costs for me. To have sets shipped to the US from Europe and then back to Europe to get taxed, that's just silly. This is ultimately what caused me to flip-flop towards getting Solarized Dark and not waiting for this, I realised this was basically guaranteed to only be run on Massdrop.Except you don't pay more because of import tax. For example, if md sells a gmk set for 100$ they don't pay vat to gmk. If you would buy it directly from gmk (or an eu based group buy to be more realistic) you would have to pay roughly 20% more from the start because then the tax would be included.
Except you don't pay more because of import tax. For example, if md sells a gmk set for 100$ they don't pay vat to gmk. If you would buy it directly from gmk (or an eu based group buy to be more realistic) you would have to pay roughly 20% more from the start because then the tax would be included.
Only thing it saves you from is the walk to the customs office and a little shipping.
In return you get the high order numbers to achive prices other gb runners can mostly just dream of.
I do not remember if I weighed in on the MD thing before but I might as well now. I really dislike buying off of Massdrop because it basically guarantees sky-high import costs for me. To have sets shipped to the US from Europe and then back to Europe to get taxed, that's just silly. This is ultimately what caused me to flip-flop towards getting Solarized Dark and not waiting for this, I realised this was basically guaranteed to only be run on Massdrop.
MiTo keeps alluding to this being a much bigger project than just a new GMK set
I'm still hoping for that jacket in his avatar.
While I understand it might be inconvenient or expensive for you, it is considerably cheaper for anyone who lives in the US if a drop ends up on Massdrop.
Do you really think it makes sense to punish the vast majority for the loud minority? Considering we both know that the largest number of orders will originate from the US? Not trying to be a ****, I just struggle with this argument every time.
While I understand it might be inconvenient or expensive for you, it is considerably cheaper for anyone who lives in the US if a drop ends up on Massdrop.
Do you really think it makes sense to punish the vast majority for the loud minority? Considering we both know that the largest number of orders will originate from the US? Not trying to be a ****, I just struggle with this argument every time.
See what irks me is that anything run on Massdrop is exclusively through Massdrop which means no EU options possible at all. Still a fair-ish trade considering ~52% is from the US, so I'm not really saying it's bad for the set overall that it's being run on Massdrop, I just don't like how Massdrop makes 0 effort to be a good option for EU customers and they lose me with that, that's all. That's also why I'm just weighing in, not claiming to be the perfect example of righteousness or anything, it's just what it means to me that it's being run on MD.
While I understand it might be inconvenient or expensive for you, it is considerably cheaper for anyone who lives in the US if a drop ends up on Massdrop.
Do you really think it makes sense to punish the vast majority for the loud minority? Considering we both know that the largest number of orders will originate from the US? Not trying to be a ****, I just struggle with this argument every time.
See what irks me is that anything run on Massdrop is exclusively through Massdrop which means no EU options possible at all. Still a fair-ish trade considering ~52% is from the US, so I'm not really saying it's bad for the set overall that it's being run on Massdrop, I just don't like how Massdrop makes 0 effort to be a good option for EU customers and they lose me with that, that's all. That's also why I'm just weighing in, not claiming to be the perfect example of righteousness or anything, it's just what it means to me that it's being run on MD.
Hey Mito, after seeing the physical samples of the pink and reading your description, how accurate do you think this rendering that autobot produced looks in combination with the Norbatouch pink TKL case?
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Looking at the actual photo of the case, I think it looks kind of a bubblegum pink (maybe I'm wrong) while the Laser color is more like a hot pink. It doesn't seem to be a 100% match, more like a 70% match, to be honest with you, but I think overall the case would combine very well with the keyset. Mostly because I believe that bubblegum pink represents the 80's decade and since this is the conceptual background of the keyset then it would make sense and match. Comparing the two colors, I believe that a case shading to a less vibrant pink could potentially frame hot pink and purple keycaps nicely, I would enjoy that personally. Bonus if this Norbauer case was translucent acrylic with injection marks, instead of metal, like a cassette Walkman tape.
That said, if any user wants to physically see these samples, in order to match your creations with the keycap set, just let me know and I can ship you some. I think I have enough samples to cover everyone who would be interested.
While I understand it might be inconvenient or expensive for you, it is considerably cheaper for anyone who lives in the US if a drop ends up on Massdrop.
Do you really think it makes sense to punish the vast majority for the loud minority? Considering we both know that the largest number of orders will originate from the US? Not trying to be a ****, I just struggle with this argument every time.
See what irks me is that anything run on Massdrop is exclusively through Massdrop which means no EU options possible at all. Still a fair-ish trade considering ~52% is from the US, so I'm not really saying it's bad for the set overall that it's being run on Massdrop, I just don't like how Massdrop makes 0 effort to be a good option for EU customers and they lose me with that, that's all. That's also why I'm just weighing in, not claiming to be the perfect example of righteousness or anything, it's just what it means to me that it's being run on MD.
Only China uses a proxy for ordering, because great firewall and repressive regime and stuff.While I understand it might be inconvenient or expensive for you, it is considerably cheaper for anyone who lives in the US if a drop ends up on Massdrop.
Do you really think it makes sense to punish the vast majority for the loud minority? Considering we both know that the largest number of orders will originate from the US? Not trying to be a ****, I just struggle with this argument every time.
See what irks me is that anything run on Massdrop is exclusively through Massdrop which means no EU options possible at all. Still a fair-ish trade considering ~52% is from the US, so I'm not really saying it's bad for the set overall that it's being run on Massdrop, I just don't like how Massdrop makes 0 effort to be a good option for EU customers and they lose me with that, that's all. That's also why I'm just weighing in, not claiming to be the perfect example of righteousness or anything, it's just what it means to me that it's being run on MD.
I wouldn't think there anything stopping a EU company from becoming a proxy? Perhaps that be a better solution then just getting angry at Massdrop. I am not mistaken don't the Asian Country's use Proxy's?
I do not remember if I weighed in on the MD thing before but I might as well now. I really dislike buying off of Massdrop because it basically guarantees sky-high import costs for me. To have sets shipped to the US from Europe and then back to Europe to get taxed, that's just silly. This is ultimately what caused me to flip-flop towards getting Solarized Dark and not waiting for this, I realised this was basically guaranteed to only be run on Massdrop.
Candykeys maybe? They already have Originative sets and are currently acting as a EU proxy for SP's DSA Run and Maxkey's SA Calm Depths.
Blame your countries import policies not the vendor, it is illegal for vendors to lie about the contents of your package. As big as massdrop is they don't want to deal with that ****. I am not a massdrop white knight I have just been fed up with eu folks complaining about import policies without understanding how it works.
Couldnt eu then organise a proxy similar to how china deals with it?Blame your countries import policies not the vendor, it is illegal for vendors to lie about the contents of your package. As big as massdrop is they don't want to deal with that ****. I am not a massdrop white knight I have just been fed up with eu folks complaining about import policies without understanding how it works.
I think you misunderstand both my post and what I wish to accomplish with it.
1. I am not complaining about MD not circumventing import regulations. I am merely disappointed that Massdrop = no shipping from EU, and mentioned that that ended up tipping the scale in favour of not jumping on this one for me.
2. I wish to accomplish precisely nothing. Saw matter discussed, saw an opportunity to toss in 2 cents, tossed 2 cents, attempted to run but apparently failed.
If an EU proxy/front is possible then good, but there's been plenty huge buys and I have yet to heart of one instance of Massdrop EU proxy so one would figure there's something preventing that. Alas, I do not know enough to judge.
SA oblivion drop is over. I hope Laser is next up!
No offence to Oblotzky, but I've been waiting for SA Oblivion to end.
Just to know that Laser is near.
Today I've got UK78, I'm ordering zealios 78 and then putting it on shelf till Laser arrives.
I know I am deep deep minority on this but I hope this don't drop tell November. I already blown my entire fun budget for October.. I really want this keyset but as it stands I most likely have to pass depending on lot of factors.
I thought it was only oblivion in front of it :(
laser pls
not today :(
Doesnt massdrop send out mail a few day in advance for stuff they promote? I know i got mail for stuff like the liquid carbon amps.
It's in the massdrop queue, there are/were other keysets ahead of it.Which ones
It's in the massdrop queue, there are/were other keysets ahead of it.Which ones
It's in the massdrop queue, there are/were other keysets ahead of it.Which ones
who knows
we'll see if it comes up next or not
It's in the massdrop queue, there are/were other keysets ahead of it.Which ones
who knows
we'll see if it comes up next or not
He is stating there is others ahead of it, which suggests he should have some facts to base that on
I know I am deep deep minority on this but I hope this don't drop tell November. I already blown my entire fun budget for October.. I really want this keyset but as it stands I most likely have to pass depending on lot of factors.
Blasphemy!
I know I am deep deep minority on this but I hope this don't drop tell November. I already blown my entire fun budget for October.. I really want this keyset but as it stands I most likely have to pass depending on lot of factors.
Blasphemy!
Congratulations, they have heeded your call and will be dropping in November '18...
Great job, buddy.
I know I am deep deep minority on this but I hope this don't drop tell November. I already blown my entire fun budget for October.. I really want this keyset but as it stands I most likely have to pass depending on lot of factors.
Blasphemy!
Congratulations, they have heeded your call and will be dropping in November '18...
Great job, buddy.
I know I am deep deep minority on this but I hope this don't drop tell November. I already blown my entire fun budget for October.. I really want this keyset but as it stands I most likely have to pass depending on lot of factors.
Blasphemy!
Congratulations, they have heeded your call and will be dropping in November '18...
Great job, buddy.
Where did you hear this?
Please take my money.
I want it and I will keep it forever... Or at least until a SA variant is made.
SA won't support such complicated legends. Not in doubleshot technology at least (not to mention that molds themselves would cost a fortune).
The best option for me would be Matt3o's hi-pros, but I don't think that reverse dye-sub is possible atm with such detalization.
SA won't support such complicated legends. Not in doubleshot technology at least (not to mention that molds themselves would cost a fortune).
The best option for me would be Matt3o's hi-pros, but I don't think that reverse dye-sub is possible atm with such detalization.
SA could certainly support a lot of the legends he has here, just look at the "Out of the Vault" packs or SA camping. It's certainly possible and SP charges less for molds than GMK anyway so I don't understand where you're coming from.
This is probably a stupid question, but I'm going to ask it anyway... Maxkey makes SA profile keycaps and the look pretty good in photos but I don't see people turning to them as an alternative to Signature Plastics. What gives?
This is probably a stupid question, but I'm going to ask it anyway... Maxkey makes SA profile keycaps and the look pretty good in photos but I don't see people turning to them as an alternative to Signature Plastics. What gives?
This is probably a stupid question, but I'm going to ask it anyway... Maxkey makes SA profile keycaps and the look pretty good in photos but I don't see people turning to them as an alternative to Signature Plastics. What gives?People are blinded by habits.
Their prices aren't really competitive anymore, the Maxkeys Calm Depths set costs $130.
Anyone have an idea of what kind price the base set may go for?
Anyone have an idea of what kind price the base set may go for?
Considering past drops, not more than $150, even considering that Laser's base might be a little bit larger than other GMK sets. But this drop will be popular, so I hope it will drop to $99. ;)
Their prices aren't really competitive anymore, the Maxkeys Calm Depths set costs $130.
What more can you ask for, really?
This is probably a stupid question, but I'm going to ask it anyway... Maxkey makes SA profile keycaps and the look pretty good in photos but I don't see people turning to them as an alternative to Signature Plastics. What gives?
My guess would be that Maxkeys doesn't have the same customization options. Like they don't produce any ISO sets as they apparently don't have the molds (or so I've read). I've longingly looked into their SA sets, but since I use a Swedish/Finnish layout, it's never been a real option.
I would think they are a fine option if you want more affordable SA sets with a standard ANSI layout. But if you want anything more custom (novelties, ISO, 40%, etc), maybe they're not up to the task.
I do wish they did up their game, as more competition could really help with the crazy prices and waiting times.
Does anyone know if the Japanese sublegends on the Gaijin set will be doubleshot?
Great! I couldn't find any info confirming that, thanksDoes anyone know if the Japanese sublegends on the Gaijin set will be doubleshot?
Yes they will.
Well, looks like HotRoder is going to be happy. With this https://mitormk.com/legacy/ (https://mitormk.com/legacy/) news I'm guessing Laser won't be coming until November.Seems kind of odd to run this now, since the Rush scheme is fairly similar to Laser...
Well, looks like HotRoder is going to be happy. With this https://mitormk.com/legacy/ (https://mitormk.com/legacy/) news I'm guessing Laser won't be coming until November.
Follow the Massdrop link from that page. Mito says it is dropping Monday. The laser wait continuesWell, looks like HotRoder is going to be happy. With this https://mitormk.com/legacy/ (https://mitormk.com/legacy/) news I'm guessing Laser won't be coming until November.
Doesn't say anything about when it's going to drop.
Mito, y u do this?
Follow the Massdrop link from that page. Mito says it is dropping Monday. The laser wait continuesWell, looks like HotRoder is going to be happy. With this https://mitormk.com/legacy/ (https://mitormk.com/legacy/) news I'm guessing Laser won't be coming until November.
Doesn't say anything about when it's going to drop.
Mito, y u do this?
he had something special and unique planned for this set
At the risk of being hated by the community I am... and I am really excited in general... cause right now there so many keycap buy's going on. That I am worried Laser wouldn't get the attention it deserves. I am totally ok with it being November release. I hope others feel the same way. I mean sure the sooner it releases the better but then we gotta hurry up and wait anyway right? Cause I mean its not like they ship it next week. I am sure GMK has a backlog of keys to produce with all the GMK sets live right now. To top it off didn't Mito say he had something special and unique planned for this set? Perhaps he still in the process of getting all that worked out. I say we just gotta be patient even thought it does suck.
DSA is a creation of Satan to blind us to the truth.
So since we got a DSA laser, i doubt GMK laser is coming in november. Mito said Q4 for laser though, so december?
I'm bummed Laser keeps getting delayed as well.
I speculate the reason for delay is bottlenecked negotiation between MD and MiTo.
MiTo seems to have plans for broader Laser lineup, so MD likely is claiming broader rights beyond keycaps.
Halo switch dispute reveals a lot on how MD conducts business. While I wouldn't call MD evil, they seem ever inching toward unscrupulousness.
Hard to know what's going on, but in lieu of info I support creator in this sort of situation where community and business don't mix well.
I'm fine with waiting a little more for Laser. And I don't have problem closing my wallet to slot fillers that I don't want.
I'm bummed Laser keeps getting delayed as well.
I speculate the reason for delay is bottlenecked negotiation between MD and MiTo.
MiTo seems to have plans for broader Laser lineup, so MD likely is claiming broader rights beyond keycaps.
Halo switch dispute reveals a lot on how MD conducts business. While I wouldn't call MD evil, they seem ever inching toward unscrupulousness.
Hard to know what's going on, but in lieu of info I support creator in this sort of situation where community and business don't mix well.
I'm fine with waiting a little more for Laser. And I don't have problem closing my wallet to slot fillers that I don't want.
Your entire post is unfounded speculation, which is kind of toxic to be quite honest- do you have anything to actually back up your claims? Or are you just spreading rumors with no basis?
The drop was always speculated to be in November, and MiTo saying the project is broader than keycaps shouldn't give you any reason to start theorizing that it means Massdrop is trying to screw him over.
The Halo Switch debate issue literally has nothing to do with MiTo or this drop, and honestly your claim "reveals a lot how MD conducts business." is a rather petty and ignorant statement that again I don't even know why you're bringing it into this discussion.
Embarrassing.
DSA is a creation of Satan to blind us to the truth.
PreachBrotherSister Hashbaz. Profiles is a lie. There is only Cherry Profile.
I'm bummed Laser keeps getting delayed as well.
I speculate the reason for delay is bottlenecked negotiation between MD and MiTo.
MiTo seems to have plans for broader Laser lineup, so MD likely is claiming broader rights beyond keycaps.
Halo switch dispute reveals a lot on how MD conducts business. While I wouldn't call MD evil, they seem ever inching toward unscrupulousness.
Hard to know what's going on, but in lieu of info I support creator in this sort of situation where community and business don't mix well.
I'm fine with waiting a little more for Laser. And I don't have problem closing my wallet to slot fillers that I don't want.
Your entire post is unfounded speculation, which is kind of toxic to be quite honest- do you have anything to actually back up your claims? Or are you just spreading rumors with no basis?
The drop was always speculated to be in November, and MiTo saying the project is broader than keycaps shouldn't give you any reason to start theorizing that it means Massdrop is trying to screw him over.
The Halo Switch debate issue literally has nothing to do with MiTo or this drop, and honestly your claim "reveals a lot how MD conducts business." is a rather petty and ignorant statement that again I don't even know why you're bringing it into this discussion.
Embarrassing.
Dude, chill. I speculated and obviously it's hypothetical. No need to dramatize what I said and start judging and attacking.
Unless you are insider, you don't know what's going on. Just leave things be. Don't try to shut up people.
Time will tell.
I'm bummed Laser keeps getting delayed as well.
I speculate the reason for delay is bottlenecked negotiation between MD and MiTo.
MiTo seems to have plans for broader Laser lineup, so MD likely is claiming broader rights beyond keycaps.
Halo switch dispute reveals a lot on how MD conducts business. While I wouldn't call MD evil, they seem ever inching toward unscrupulousness.
Hard to know what's going on, but in lieu of info I support creator in this sort of situation where community and business don't mix well.
I'm fine with waiting a little more for Laser. And I don't have problem closing my wallet to slot fillers that I don't want.
Your entire post is unfounded speculation, which is kind of toxic to be quite honest- do you have anything to actually back up your claims? Or are you just spreading rumors with no basis?
The drop was always speculated to be in November, and MiTo saying the project is broader than keycaps shouldn't give you any reason to start theorizing that it means Massdrop is trying to screw him over.
The Halo Switch debate issue literally has nothing to do with MiTo or this drop, and honestly your claim "reveals a lot how MD conducts business." is a rather petty and ignorant statement that again I don't even know why you're bringing it into this discussion.
Embarrassing.
Dude, chill. I speculated and obviously it's hypothetical. No need to dramatize what I said and start judging and attacking.
Unless you are insider, you don't know what's going on. Just leave things be. Don't try to shut up people.
Time will tell.
I think the Race colorway is rad, and I'm totally going to blow my wad on it. I'll have enough saved up later when laser comes to market in 2018 :)
I'm bummed Laser keeps getting delayed as well.
I speculate the reason for delay is bottlenecked negotiation between MD and MiTo.
MiTo seems to have plans for broader Laser lineup, so MD likely is claiming broader rights beyond keycaps.
Halo switch dispute reveals a lot on how MD conducts business. While I wouldn't call MD evil, they seem ever inching toward unscrupulousness.
Hard to know what's going on, but in lieu of info I support creator in this sort of situation where community and business don't mix well.
I'm fine with waiting a little more for Laser. And I don't have problem closing my wallet to slot fillers that I don't want.
Your entire post is unfounded speculation, which is kind of toxic to be quite honest- do you have anything to actually back up your claims? Or are you just spreading rumors with no basis?
The drop was always speculated to be in November, and MiTo saying the project is broader than keycaps shouldn't give you any reason to start theorizing that it means Massdrop is trying to screw him over.
The Halo Switch debate issue literally has nothing to do with MiTo or this drop, and honestly your claim "reveals a lot how MD conducts business." is a rather petty and ignorant statement that again I don't even know why you're bringing it into this discussion.
Embarrassing.
Dude, chill. I speculated and obviously it's hypothetical. No need to dramatize what I said and start judging and attacking.
Unless you are insider, you don't know what's going on. Just leave things be. Don't try to shut up people.
Time will tell.
You are WAY off base here. This is straight fake news level. The only confirmed timeline was Q4. Just in case you weren't aware how quarters work, we are only 2 weeks into the quarter. So all of about 15%.
First let's discuss what the concept of a delay is. A delay is something happening after it is supposed to, not after you want it to. We get it, its a nice set and everyone wants it now, that doesn't mean it is READY now.
Mito has said he is planning other things to go along with the release, I would assume at least things like artisans and matching mousepads and such, but I wouldn't be surprised to see things like cases matched to the colors and whatnot. All of that takes time.
The fundamental flaw in your thinking is you are inventing a delay when NO ONE has EVER said anything ways delayed EXCEPT people who were complaining about waiting. This drop is running on time, it's just not as soon as some people would like it to be. That has never not been the case, and inventing some drama based on a delay that never happened is straight Trump logic.
I'm bummed Laser keeps getting delayed as well.
I speculate the reason for delay is bottlenecked negotiation between MD and MiTo.
MiTo seems to have plans for broader Laser lineup, so MD likely is claiming broader rights beyond keycaps.
Halo switch dispute reveals a lot on how MD conducts business. While I wouldn't call MD evil, they seem ever inching toward unscrupulousness.
Hard to know what's going on, but in lieu of info I support creator in this sort of situation where community and business don't mix well.
I'm fine with waiting a little more for Laser. And I don't have problem closing my wallet to slot fillers that I don't want.
Your entire post is unfounded speculation, which is kind of toxic to be quite honest- do you have anything to actually back up your claims? Or are you just spreading rumors with no basis?
The drop was always speculated to be in November, and MiTo saying the project is broader than keycaps shouldn't give you any reason to start theorizing that it means Massdrop is trying to screw him over.
The Halo Switch debate issue literally has nothing to do with MiTo or this drop, and honestly your claim "reveals a lot how MD conducts business." is a rather petty and ignorant statement that again I don't even know why you're bringing it into this discussion.
Embarrassing.
Dude, chill. I speculated and obviously it's hypothetical. No need to dramatize what I said and start judging and attacking.
Unless you are insider, you don't know what's going on. Just leave things be. Don't try to shut up people.
Time will tell.
You are WAY off base here. This is straight fake news level. The only confirmed timeline was Q4. Just in case you weren't aware how quarters work, we are only 2 weeks into the quarter. So all of about 15%.
First let's discuss what the concept of a delay is. A delay is something happening after it is supposed to, not after you want it to. We get it, its a nice set and everyone wants it now, that doesn't mean it is READY now.
Mito has said he is planning other things to go along with the release, I would assume at least things like artisans and matching mousepads and such, but I wouldn't be surprised to see things like cases matched to the colors and whatnot. All of that takes time.
The fundamental flaw in your thinking is you are inventing a delay when NO ONE has EVER said anything ways delayed EXCEPT people who were complaining about waiting. This drop is running on time, it's just not as soon as some people would like it to be. That has never not been the case, and inventing some drama based on a delay that never happened is straight Trump logic.
Guys, you should re-read what I said. I really don't understand why you are all worked up.
Sure, I mildly criticized MD. I don't think I outright "bash"d them. I actually believe it's natural they protect their business interests.
I'll be happy if Laser happens in Nov whether MiTo wraps up his other plannings as you claim, or MD and MiTo come to terms in the negotiation that I speculated.
Peace!
I'm bummed Laser keeps getting delayed as well.
I speculate the reason for delay is bottlenecked negotiation between MD and MiTo.
MiTo seems to have plans for broader Laser lineup, so MD likely is claiming broader rights beyond keycaps.
Halo switch dispute reveals a lot on how MD conducts business. While I wouldn't call MD evil, they seem ever inching toward unscrupulousness.
Hard to know what's going on, but in lieu of info I support creator in this sort of situation where community and business don't mix well.
I'm fine with waiting a little more for Laser. And I don't have problem closing my wallet to slot fillers that I don't want.
Your entire post is unfounded speculation, which is kind of toxic to be quite honest- do you have anything to actually back up your claims? Or are you just spreading rumors with no basis?
The drop was always speculated to be in November, and MiTo saying the project is broader than keycaps shouldn't give you any reason to start theorizing that it means Massdrop is trying to screw him over.
The Halo Switch debate issue literally has nothing to do with MiTo or this drop, and honestly your claim "reveals a lot how MD conducts business." is a rather petty and ignorant statement that again I don't even know why you're bringing it into this discussion.
Embarrassing.
Dude, chill. I speculated and obviously it's hypothetical. No need to dramatize what I said and start judging and attacking.
Unless you are insider, you don't know what's going on. Just leave things be. Don't try to shut up people.
Time will tell.
You are WAY off base here. This is straight fake news level. The only confirmed timeline was Q4. Just in case you weren't aware how quarters work, we are only 2 weeks into the quarter. So all of about 15%.
First let's discuss what the concept of a delay is. A delay is something happening after it is supposed to, not after you want it to. We get it, its a nice set and everyone wants it now, that doesn't mean it is READY now.
Mito has said he is planning other things to go along with the release, I would assume at least things like artisans and matching mousepads and such, but I wouldn't be surprised to see things like cases matched to the colors and whatnot. All of that takes time.
The fundamental flaw in your thinking is you are inventing a delay when NO ONE has EVER said anything ways delayed EXCEPT people who were complaining about waiting. This drop is running on time, it's just not as soon as some people would like it to be. That has never not been the case, and inventing some drama based on a delay that never happened is straight Trump logic.
Guys, you should re-read what I said. I really don't understand why you are all worked up.
Sure, I mildly criticized MD. I don't think I outright "bash"d them. I actually believe it's natural they protect their business interests.
I'll be happy if Laser happens in Nov whether MiTo wraps up his other plannings as you claim, or MD and MiTo come to terms in the negotiation that I speculated.
Peace!
I have finally realized where the flaw in your logic is. Because of your spite for massdrop you have failed to realize that MiTo is EXTREMELY active on massdrop.
https://www.massdrop.com/talk/455/laser-gmk
Here is mito answering your question 2 weeks ago:Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171017/3158cb61e5ecf6cdffde2040fd9083df.png)
And this is the person from MD who runs the keyboard section waiting for laser just like us:Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171017/bd5184f36c977630b24e7622cdaa671f.png)
The reason we are saying you are inventing a conspiracy is because we DO have word from the creator. You just haven’t been listening.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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... MD and MiTo come to terms in the negotiation that I speculated.
Peace!
This set looks awesome, MiTo.
Any chance the Ergodox kit will get legends?
I am studying the possibility of offering ErgoBlanck and ErgoPlanck kits.
Laser's looking good!
Have you considered adding essential Planck keys in the Base Kit and removing it from the ErgoPlank Kit instead? Because to cover the default layout with correct legends, you just need a few more keys.
R2 Tab, R3 Esc and R4 Enter are the 3 essential 1u keys for default Planck coverage. The additional R2 Tab will also help with some 40% layouts.
Less essential is R4 Shift (there's already an R4 Fn and R4 Hack key which can be used in its place), and R3 ' " in mod colours.
You would also need to add 2 x 1u R4C keys and 1 x 2u R4C key in the Spacebar Kit.
Doing this would result in a considerably cheaper option for Planck/Preonic users as all they need to get is Base + Spacebars.
This does mean the Base Kit and Spacebar Kit may go up slightly in price, but the resulting Ergodox kit will be reduced by a fair bit too. Of course you can leave your planned ErgoBlank kit in for people who desire blank mods.
Just some of my thoughts after Nautilus' less than desirable options for Planck/Preonic users.
I wish mito had some information to share about the current status of the project. :confused:
Do you guys know would the set look great with a purple case (kbd75 for example)
Do you guys know would the set look great with a purple case (kbd75 for example)
Do you guys know would the set look great with a purple case (kbd75 for example)
I will use a black keyboard for laser. The colors will already be so loud and hard to find matching purple.
I'm thinking brushed stainless would tie in with the "88" novelty quite nicely.
Like the color of a DeLorean.
Like the color of a DeLorean.
Almost: https://dmc-watch.com/products/b734adg-t213b-l1dn ;)
Now I'm trying to figure out how I can translate the lines of a DeLorean into a keyboard case...I'm thinking brushed stainless would tie in with the "88" novelty quite nicely.
Like the color of a DeLorean.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MgqESDl.jpg)
Robocop DeLorean keyboard plsNow I'm trying to figure out how I can translate the lines of a DeLorean into a keyboard case...I'm thinking brushed stainless would tie in with the "88" novelty quite nicely.
Like the color of a DeLorean.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MgqESDl.jpg)
https://imgur.com/R0uXsnp
https://imgur.com/R0uXsnp
Notice how the time unit was casually left out of that sentence :p
Convenient.https://imgur.com/R0uXsnp
Notice how the time unit was casually left out of that sentence :p
this will coming after legacy right miTo??!!Before would be tricky^^
I think were closed. Mito posted this on reddit just a day ago when someone asked about laser "Keep an eye out these days!"
Just to clarify: this is dropping any day now right??
Just to clarify: this is dropping any day now right??
nobody knows
Just to clarify: this is dropping any day now right??
Now I'm trying to figure out how I can translate the lines of a DeLorean into a keyboard case...Funny you mention that — the reason I bought a dark grey Clueboard CNC is because the lines and color reminded me of a DeLorean.
Just to clarify: this is dropping any day now right??
Most likely will know more next week. Seems like Massdrop tends to drop keysets week apart and does them for 4 weeks. We don't see it next week then most likely won't see it till December are later. That being said. They could change/alter when they drop the set but my guess is we will see this shortly as there been other small little signs to point to this set possibly dropping soon.
Just to clarify: this is dropping any day now right??
Most likely will know more next week. Seems like Massdrop tends to drop keysets week apart and does them for 4 weeks. We don't see it next week then most likely won't see it till December are later. That being said. They could change/alter when they drop the set but my guess is we will see this shortly as there been other small little signs to point to this set possibly dropping soon.
GMK takes about 4 months.
The next question is how long it will take to ship. I don't know much of GMK turnarounds. I've been waiting for this set for over a year... waiting another year would nearly kill me.
Uh, guys...
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-gmk-laser-custom-keycap-set
Dropping this Friday!
Well looking at the kits I think I'm going Kobe alphas, Blocknet modifiers, Mitowaves novelties, then Ergo & Spacebars for good measure. Lets hit those MOQ's so it doesn't hurt as bad pls.
Where did the Pacman and Space Invader novelty go?!?!?!?!?! I'm still purchasing but really saddened by this :'(My guess would be that they infringe on IP, and Mito/MD couldn't get permission to use the images.
(Please let me know if I just missed that in the thread somewhere)
Where did the Pacman and Space Invader novelty go?!?!?!?!?! I'm still purchasing but really saddened by this :'(My guess would be that they infringe on IP, and Mito/MD couldn't get permission to use the images.
(Please let me know if I just missed that in the thread somewhere)
Where did the Pacman and Space Invader novelty go?!?!?!?!?! I'm still purchasing but really saddened by this :'(
(Please let me know if I just missed that in the thread somewhere)
Where did the Pacman and Space Invader novelty go?!?!?!?!?! I'm still purchasing but really saddened by this :'(
(Please let me know if I just missed that in the thread somewhere)
Where did the Pacman and Space Invader novelty go?!?!?!?!?! I'm still purchasing but really saddened by this :'(
(Please let me know if I just missed that in the thread somewhere)
I’m not exactly sure what you mean, I still see them in the novelties on the first post as well as Mito’s page.
Where did the Pacman and Space Invader novelty go?!?!?!?!?! I'm still purchasing but really saddened by this :'(
(Please let me know if I just missed that in the thread somewhere)
I’m not exactly sure what you mean, I still see them in the novelties on the first post as well as Mito’s page.
My bad, I was referencing the Massdrop page that popped up today for the drop which is now confirmed as Nov 3!
The novelties there do not have either Pacman or Space Invaders. Most likely due to licensing.
Well, that's exciting news.
Does anyone have an idea for the pricing of the gaijin and kobe kits?
Where did the Pacman and Space Invader novelty go?!?!?!?!?! I'm still purchasing but really saddened by this :'(
(Please let me know if I just missed that in the thread somewhere)
I’m not exactly sure what you mean, I still see them in the novelties on the first post as well as Mito’s page.
My bad, I was referencing the Massdrop page that popped up today for the drop which is now confirmed as Nov 3!
The novelties there do not have either Pacman or Space Invaders. Most likely due to licensing.
Wow, that’s pretty much kills this buy for me :(
Where did the Pacman and Space Invader novelty go?!?!?!?!?! I'm still purchasing but really saddened by this :'(
(Please let me know if I just missed that in the thread somewhere)
I’m not exactly sure what you mean, I still see them in the novelties on the first post as well as Mito’s page.
My bad, I was referencing the Massdrop page that popped up today for the drop which is now confirmed as Nov 3!
The novelties there do not have either Pacman or Space Invaders. Most likely due to licensing.
Wow, that’s pretty much kills this buy for me :(
Most likely had to yank them cause of copyright =( which stinks those were two of my favorites.. I understand thought having to make sure Mito stay's safe and so does massdrop.
Does anyone have an idea for the pricing of the gaijin and kobe kits?
Mito! WHY NO ISO ENTER WITH BLOCKNET??!No support for iso with blocknet
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Mito! WHY NO ISO ENTER WITH BLOCKNET??!No support for iso with blocknet
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No support for iso with gaijin
No support for iso with kobe
Euro kit supports only DE
...
I guess I can now happily remove my massdrop account. :-*
Good riddance.
The euro kit was just fine earlier in the renders. Stripping swe/fi/no/dk support at this stage is jut silly. 9009 international kit polls show that eight out of ten people prefer to have proper support, and supporting just one language well is borderline offensive to the rest.Mito! WHY NO ISO ENTER WITH BLOCKNET??!No support for iso with blocknet
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No support for iso with gaijin
No support for iso with kobe
Euro kit supports only DE
...
I guess I can now happily remove my massdrop account. :-*
Good riddance.
-Gaijin / kobe both miss 1 key. (Hopefully Mito can fix this)
-blocknet: ISO enter missing?
-euro kit: compromized scandinavian set.
I assume there isnt anything else missing from the gajin/kobe/blocknet.
For your considerationShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/KrUOkm6.png)
This is what is needed, by my estimation, to outfit an actual Japanese keyboard. Add a few extra novelties and it will hit MOQ no question. Couldn’t resist one more whack on this dead horse ;)
For your considerationShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/KrUOkm6.png)
This is what is needed, by my estimation, to outfit an actual Japanese keyboard. Add a few extra novelties and it will hit MOQ no question. Couldn’t resist one more whack on this dead horse ;)
It is a shame there is no full JIS coverage, I think I'd rather have that than some of the replacement novelties :P. I'd build a JIS keyboard just for kicks.
What’s up with the translucent TKL? Any info on that? Looks hot!The first ducky one models were translucent
Caps Loco didn't make the cut either :(
For your considerationShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/KrUOkm6.png)
This is what is needed, by my estimation, to outfit an actual Japanese keyboard. Add a few extra novelties and it will hit MOQ no question. Couldn’t resist one more whack on this dead horse ;)
It is a shame there is no full JIS coverage, I think I'd rather have that than some of the replacement novelties :P. I'd build a JIS keyboard just for kicks.
Crazy to think the last time I was pushing for JIS support in this thread my only keyboard with that physical layout was a Pingmaster, now I have an actual JIS Filco and two GH60’s (going on three) where the top four rows are physically JIS :))
I use a custom layout and I like having twelve punctuation keys ISO style, and all on the right. I think a good Japanese kit would get me to learn some Japanese
For your considerationShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/KrUOkm6.png)
This is what is needed, by my estimation, to outfit an actual Japanese keyboard. Add a few extra novelties and it will hit MOQ no question. Couldn’t resist one more whack on this dead horse ;)
It is a shame there is no full JIS coverage, I think I'd rather have that than some of the replacement novelties :P. I'd build a JIS keyboard just for kicks.
For your considerationShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/KrUOkm6.png)
This is what is needed, by my estimation, to outfit an actual Japanese keyboard. Add a few extra novelties and it will hit MOQ no question. Couldn’t resist one more whack on this dead horse ;)
It is a shame there is no full JIS coverage, I think I'd rather have that than some of the replacement novelties :P. I'd build a JIS keyboard just for kicks.
I would gladly pay a little more for complete JP alphas as well. If the order counts for the Japanese sets go through the roof, GMK might gift us with these missing keycaps, who knows. They already threw in a few free caps with Carbon and Yuri but those did not require new molds.
What is "blocknet" based on - the design/icons etc.
Never have I been so satisfied burning holes in my pocket...
Never have I been so satisfied burning holes in my pocket...
Hype materialization is wonderful, isn't it? :cool:
During the upcoming weeks we will be offering exclusive collaborations to celebrate the Laser culture. Exciting side drops will take place between some known community members and Massdrop. Other independent community creators/contributors will be expressing their creativity and passion for our project too, following their own terms.
We would like to thank every single one of you for the incredible support during the development phase, and we expect you all to have a very pleasant and unique experience with the Laser universe. We wanted to do justice to our keyset manufacturer capabilities, so everything we are presenting was conceived following top quality industry guidelines and state of the art technology, the best we can possibly offer so you can enjoy the purple hype.
Laser is filled with cultural references and it inspired me and JoTo to write together a cyberpunk short story dedicated to the project. Hands on Deck - The Laser GMK Short Story by MiTo and JoTo is debuting Nov. 3rd on my website. You'll have the chance to support independent artists and dive deep inside the universe we shaped. At the same time, I'm gonna be offering limited edition trinkets that I prepared myself here in Brazil and I hope you enjoy them. This is going to be the Laser Shoppo grand opening!
Outatime!
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It's already over 1,000 orders...in 3 hoursMassdrop counts every part of the set as an order tough.
Massdrop counts every part of the set as an order tough.
If you order cyberdeck, kobe and blocknet that's 3 orders...
Don't know why they do that, it is very miss leading
No EU proxy? Cyberdeck and Gaijin costs me 300+ bucks if I count in VAT and import fees, thats just insane. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Real shame.
…if I count in VAT and import fees…
I understand the way it works, but its frustrating to see all these awesome sets on massdrop which are produced in Germany while I live in NL. Fees are killing it. GMK Eclipse is the only one running with CandyKeys, and yeah thats ALOT cheaper for me. But it looks like that one is not running at all.
No EU proxy? Cyberdeck and Gaijin costs me 300+ bucks if I count in VAT and import fees, thats just insane. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Real shame.
All the Massdrop normies that even know the poll was a thing are buying Gaijin. All the Hiragana voters are too busy touch typing to put in their orders right away.Show Image(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/list/001/290/938/4a7.jpg)
When something is the norm, it always outnumbers the niche :p Banter aside, I'm very impressed that both kits break MOQ so quickly and so easily. I guess MD's mechkey community is just really that big compare to a year or 2 ago and that MiTo's teases and hype works were super effective. The blocknet kit was a nice surprise for me. I think I mentioned before that I love the icon mods from Canvas but I never thought MiTo would put them in Laser hehe.
Number after the first day:Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-mito-gmk-laser-custom-keycap-set/community_20171103113218.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=955&dpr=3)
Gaijin beat Kobe by more than 2 times. Where are all the Hiragana voters at? :p :p :p
EDIT: This is noiceShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/3mzT2UOUQOqPeiUjOSfi_Laser%20status%20171103.PNG?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=min&h=425&dpr=3)
No EU proxy? Cyberdeck and Gaijin costs me 300+ bucks if I count in VAT and import fees, thats just insane. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Real shame.
Can you break that down? They will most likely cost 110 + 45 so thats about $150. VAT is what, 20%? (Which you would pay anyway) so about $180 right? With shipping around $200.
All the Massdrop normies that didn't even know the poll was a thing are buying Gaijin. All the Hiragana voters are too busy touch typing to put in their orders right away.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KoeK30m.jpg)
No EU proxy? Cyberdeck and Gaijin costs me 300+ bucks if I count in VAT and import fees, thats just insane. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Real shame.
Can you break that down? They will most likely cost 110 + 45 so thats about $150. VAT is what, 20%? (Which you would pay anyway) so about $180 right? With shipping around $200.
I’ve been really into Retro Wave Music for almost 3 years now, and always loved 80’s Pop Culture so this is the ultimate key set for me. Thank you so much for bringing this to life MiTo!Nice!!! I have an Astrophysical Purple Norbauer Case coming in as well specially for GMK Laser. Will probably get my cable from Pexon too. Love their quality and customer service!
Ordered:
2 Cyberdecks
1 Gaijin
1 Kobe
1 Blocknet
1 Mitowaves
1 Ergo (future-proof the set if I like ergo boards)
1 Spacebars
Can’t wait to put these on my Venice Pink and Astrophysical Purple Norbauer Cases! May is a looong ways away, but the wait will be sooo worth it.
Now to decide if I want the matching cables from Mechcables from Massdrop or Pexon...
No EU proxy? Cyberdeck and Gaijin costs me 300+ bucks if I count in VAT and import fees, thats just insane. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Real shame.
Can you break that down? They will most likely cost 110 + 45 so thats about $150. VAT is what, 20%? (Which you would pay anyway) so about $180 right? With shipping around $200.
Not him but for me it would be
Cyberdeck $110
Gaijin $46
Shipping $17
VAT $35
'Handling fee' $15
Total $223
No EU proxy? Cyberdeck and Gaijin costs me 300+ bucks if I count in VAT and import fees, thats just insane. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Real shame.
Can you break that down? They will most likely cost 110 + 45 so thats about $150. VAT is what, 20%? (Which you would pay anyway) so about $180 right? With shipping around $200.
Not him but for me it would be
Cyberdeck $110
Gaijin $46
Shipping $17
VAT $35
'Handling fee' $15
Total $223
No EU proxy? Cyberdeck and Gaijin costs me 300+ bucks if I count in VAT and import fees, thats just insane. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Real shame.
Can you break that down? They will most likely cost 110 + 45 so thats about $150. VAT is what, 20%? (Which you would pay anyway) so about $180 right? With shipping around $200.
Not him but for me it would be
Cyberdeck $110
Gaijin $46
Shipping $17
VAT $35
'Handling fee' $15
Total $223
So what part would you be saving? Just wondering. Thought you paid shipping and VAT no matter what?
So what part would you be saving? Just wondering. Thought you paid shipping and VAT no matter what?
I do find it amusing that after months and pages upon pages arguing about which of gaijin/kobe should be the one included, when the actual set drops both of them hit MOQ the first day. What I (or rather my wallet) don't find amusing is that I'm looking at a $350-400 cart right now.
I kinda wonder if this set could go into the 89-79 dollar range for the base. I mean we are already at 1700 sold in 2 days... and that doesn't include proxy buys. Which we won't see till far later. I could easily see this selling 2-3k base sets.. plus another 1500 of the special base sets.. who knows how many novelty packs. Its fun watching all these numbers come in cause every time you see update its like Christmas.. things get a bit cheaper and its like SCORE.
It's massdrop -- there are no proxies. There are only about 500 base kits sold.
It's massdrop -- there are no proxies. There are only about 500 base kits sold.
Well there's the taobao proxy for all the Chinese (and other Asian) buyers, their numbers are always fairly impressive - for example with Miami Dolch they put in like 800 kits right at the end. That's really the only relevant one, though.
I'd wager about 800 bases will have sold by now, I still think 2000 will be quite handily attained but higher than that is a little bit of a stretch; maybe 2500 if people really milk it.
Laser isn't flashy???
i just realize i can only outfit one TKL with all of this
Yeah if it's not two TKL+ or what am i missing? At least the cluster above the arrow keys will be a problem, the f-row could be outfitted with mitowaves.i just realize i can only outfit one TKL with all of this
I'm in for Cyberdeck, Gaijin, Mitowaves, Blocknet and Spacebars. I don't have any keyboard (yet!) to fit this on. And my choices are enough to fill two keyboards… I guess I'll just need to build something.
Laser isn't flashy???
Not as much as GMK rainbow, iris, JTK Orange on White, or a red OTD mini.
To name a few
Laser isn't flashy???
Not as much as GMK rainbow, iris, JTK Orange on White, or a red OTD mini.
To name a few
TBH, I almost bought a few of the GMK rainbow sets I've seen up for grabs, then I look at how ****ty compatibility it had. Plus, someone was not thinking at all when they made the Fn key teal instead of purple.
I'd love a ridiculous GMK set like that though. I just want it to work with all my boards too.
oh man, I wanted GMK Rainbow so bad, but came into this hobby after the GB had run :(
Ok, due to PP-MD issues I'm going to join for Base, Gajin and novelties the last day of drop.
But I'm quite interested in that other offers on mitormk.
I can only guess that that fish-related drop is for specific fugu artisan in Laser colorwave.
I also can't help but notice that all additional offers are related to novelties. (neurolinks for cables for instance, ramen for upcoming sale).
Are we going to get offer for each of novelty keys, or that's just element of design?
Where did you see info on a fish related drop? On mitormk? Excited if true!
Anyone willing to part with a 6.25 spacebar from the spacebars kit? That's the only one I want but seems like a steep price tag for the whole kit :-\
Anyone willing to part with a 6.25 spacebar from the spacebars kit? That's the only one I want but seems like a steep price tag for the whole kit :-\
If the price drops to the lowest tier I plan on getting another. If that happens you can have one of mine :)
Anyone willing to part with a 6.25 spacebar from the spacebars kit? That's the only one I want but seems like a steep price tag for the whole kit :-\
If the price drops to the lowest tier I plan on getting another. If that happens you can have one of mine :)
I will be needing a 7u if I get.. Ya'll think it will be easy to get? If not I will have to buy the basekit just for the spacebar
EDIT: I will just get the SB pack and try and trade pink for purple.
What kind of board generally uses a 7u Spacebar? Obviously I'm slightly noobish when it comes to that lol
What kind of board generally uses a 7u Spacebar? Obviously I'm slightly noobish when it comes to that lol
Winkeyless layouts
What kind of board generally uses a 7u Spacebar? Obviously I'm slightly noobish when it comes to that lol
Winkeyless layouts
The cyan and the pink are not going to look like that. They are not neon colors, they don't glow. This is not going to look like the renders, I guarantee it.That's a really good point to make.
I love it! I think you should consider adding a 1.75u shift into the base kits. Users like myself who use boards like a tada68 are often turned away because we have to buy upwards of 3 kits to get enough for a 68key board.
I meant to comment on a different thread, I am using Tapatalk and some how messed that up.I love it! I think you should consider adding a 1.75u shift into the base kits. Users like myself who use boards like a tada68 are often turned away because we have to buy upwards of 3 kits to get enough for a 68key board.
What do you mean. There is a 1.75u rshift in the base kit. There always is with GMK buys.
"SPECULATION"
As it says this is pure speculation but is anyone else hoping that perhaps the Fish mentioned in the advertisement could possibly be a Fugu artisan gb? It make since with the PS group buy being the test ETF knows its possible to do it now. I am sure he wouldn't get more then 500-600 orders max. Which is close to the group buy for summer! I am sure its just wishful thinking
Please move discussion to a proper GB thread to eliminate any confusion.
Please move discussion to a proper GB thread to eliminate any confusion.
Will be updating OP with the correct child kits, etc. as I don't know how to move the discussion to a proper GB thread myself.
Please move discussion to a proper GB thread to eliminate any confusion.
Please move discussion to a proper GB thread to eliminate any confusion.
>tells people to move thread
>is the only person that can move the thread
ok
Please move discussion to a proper GB thread to eliminate any confusion.
>tells people to move thread
>is the only person that can move the thread
ok
Please move discussion to a proper GB thread to eliminate any confusion.
>tells people to move thread
>is the only person that can move the thread
ok
He's got to live up to mod of the year 2016 somehow
The Massdrop page says that the base set includes a "non-standard center stem 6u spacebar".
Why the **** would they do that? It should have the Cherry-stem 6u space.
Some of my customs use the 1800 space. Ugh hhkb isn't even Cherry stem.The Massdrop page says that the base set includes a "non-standard center stem 6u spacebar".
Why the **** would they do that? It should have the Cherry-stem 6u space.
Center stem is for HHKB i think. Off-center is 1800. Is there any other keyboards that use 6u?
The Massdrop page says that the base set includes a "non-standard center stem 6u spacebar".The last few gmk sets had both Center and off center stems on the 6U spacebar
Why the **** would they do that? It should have the Cherry-stem 6u space.
Which? Honeywell was Cherry only. Only the 6.25 was multistem.The Massdrop page says that the base set includes a "non-standard center stem 6u spacebar".The last few gmk sets had both Center and off center stems on the 6U spacebar
Why the **** would they do that? It should have the Cherry-stem 6u space.
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Which? Honeywell was Cherry only. Only the 6.25 was multistem.The Massdrop page says that the base set includes a "non-standard center stem 6u spacebar".The last few gmk sets had both Center and off center stems on the 6U spacebar
Why the **** would they do that? It should have the Cherry-stem 6u space.
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Carbon and yuri, however I used the spacebar from the spacebar kit...Which? Honeywell was Cherry only. Only the 6.25 was multistem.The Massdrop page says that the base set includes a "non-standard center stem 6u spacebar".The last few gmk sets had both Center and off center stems on the 6U spacebar
Why the **** would they do that? It should have the Cherry-stem 6u space.
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Center stem is for HHKB i think. Off-center is 1800. Is there any other keyboards that use 6u?
The last few gmk sets had both Center and off center stems on the 6U spacebar
The Massdrop page says that the base set includes a "non-standard center stem 6u spacebar".The last few gmk sets had both Center and off center stems on the 6U spacebar
Why the **** would they do that? It should have the Cherry-stem 6u space.
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The Massdrop page says that the base set includes a "non-standard center stem 6u spacebar".The last few gmk sets had both Center and off center stems on the 6U spacebar
Why the **** would they do that? It should have the Cherry-stem 6u space.
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No they didn't lol. Unless I remember wrong, the stems are too close between the 2 types, so if you include both stems you have 1 stem in your switch and another that rubs against the side of it.
Well this quarter is chock full of stuff that is costing me dearly, but I had to join if only for the novelties. A shame this set was so close to being twice as good in my esteem, but what can you do.
I think it will look stunning with a white case, but it’s going to have to fight for the spot!