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Sad sad news for topre owners.
« on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 02:40:00 »
Well some sads news has come to light. I emailed EK for some information on if the Topre Realforce keycaps will ever come back in stock and this is what I got back from them..

"Topre has told us only in the last week that they no longer wish to make keycaps. We are looking for other options, but this might not happen. Please join our newsletter for future updates.

Best regards,
Brian"

I'm not sure if this was already known but I'm just throwing it out there if it hasn't.
« Last Edit: Tue, 11 February 2014, 16:37:42 by Air tree »

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 02:54:46 »
Oh crap!

Is that the same for the HHKB blanks and printed key caps too?
 

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« Reply #2 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 02:57:02 »
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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 03:13:37 »
Good thing CM is coming out with some Topper stuff.

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 03:45:15 »
The rumour has been confirmed :(

Perhaps this explains why CM have invented the Topre keyboard with MX-compatible stems.  Maybe they heeded the rumours before anyone else.

What I'm wondering is ... if Topre keyboards (RealForce, HHKB, FC660C) are still being made, will they be supplied without keycaps?
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 03:47:14 »
That's weird, don't they need to make caps for their boards or are the stock sets different?
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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« Reply #6 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 04:11:16 »
That's weird, don't they need to make caps for their boards or are the stock sets different?

Exactly!

Or are they ceasing keyboard production completely?
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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 04:18:21 »
That's weird, don't they need to make caps for their boards or are the stock sets different?

Exactly!

Or are they ceasing keyboard production completely?
The horror!

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« Reply #8 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 04:19:34 »
Thats sad.. Hope the company is floating ok. For all the topre users you'd think maybe a new manufacturer would step up for the market space
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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 04:21:27 »
Or are they ceasing keyboard production completely?

Oh gee, who really cares about it in the scheme of things.  There will always be others that will see an opportunity and take advantage (CoolerMaster for one).

Even though I'm stuck with 3 Realforce Keyboards, not losing sleep over it at all.  Besides, waiting to see what CM is releasing next, best thing for Thorpie's out there - for next year  :thumb: .
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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 04:36:11 »
The rumour has been confirmed :(

Perhaps this explains why CM have invented the Topre keyboard with MX-compatible stems.  Maybe they heeded the rumours before anyone else.

What I'm wondering is ... if Topre keyboards (RealForce, HHKB, FC660C) are still being made, will they be supplied without keycaps?
I really hope the Cm keyboard is just as good as a HHKB or An Realforce.

Otherwise i would just want to drop in the Cherry mx compatible topre sliders into an HHKB.

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 05:24:23 »
That probably means we won't be able to buy aftermarket caps...or? I seriously doubt HHKB as well as Topre will just shut down their keyboard manufacturing...

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 05:27:43 »
That probably means we won't be able to buy aftermarket caps...or? I seriously doubt HHKB as well as Topre will just shut down their keyboard manufacturing...
I'm assuming we just won't see any more aftermarket Caps.

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« Reply #13 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 05:44:50 »
Sad sad day, still maybe its finally time for sp to make a topre stem?
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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 05:44:52 »
That's weird, don't they need to make caps for their boards or are the stock sets different?

Exactly!

Or are they ceasing keyboard production completely?

Topre will continue to make key caps for regular production boards. It's the aftermarket caps that they're stopping production for.

I'd think we might still be able to get regular black/white sets, but I'm not sure yet.
« Last Edit: Wed, 11 December 2013, 05:46:29 by Wildcard »

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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 05:45:24 »
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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 05:47:28 »
*waits for colored Topre sets to draw huge money on the classifieds
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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 06:09:45 »
Are those caps on EK original Topre (i.e. PBT)?

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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 06:21:04 »
Are those caps on EK original Topre (i.e. PBT)?
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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 17:32:22 »
Just in time for my christmas HHKB Pro 2. Just jolly.
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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 17:35:48 »
Or maybe it's a ploy by EK to promote sales of stagnant Topre caps from their shop.

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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 17:39:58 »
Just in time for my christmas HHKB Pro 2. Just jolly.

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 17:49:37 »
Or maybe it's a ploy by EK to promote sales of stagnant Topre caps from their shop.

But they have only discounted some of them.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 17:53:44 »
I asked this in a different thread yesterday but I'll ask again here: What's stopping SP or a similar manufacturer from making a Topre mold?

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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:06:18 »
I asked this in a different thread yesterday but I'll ask again here: What's stopping SP or a similar manufacturer from making a Topre mold?

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« Reply #26 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:17:37 »
The colored caps were thick ABS and not PBT right? Just wondering; I could be wrong.

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:19:02 »
thin pbt dyesubs, abs spacebar.
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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:20:28 »
That explains why EK never has stock. I got the last white set well one of them but just sold it. Also my orange set is pending.
It saddens me but I need money for clacks and bro bots! Maybe one day ill buy blanks in classifieds for a crazy markup lol 

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:20:57 »
thin pbt dyesubs, abs spacebar.

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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:25:06 »




Get your sets while you can! I already miss mine..

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:29:10 »
hmmm... red blank set or not to red blank set :(

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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:40:42 »
hmmm... red blank set or not to red blank set :(

Do it while they are available! Im just too hooked on clacks so had to sell my keysets :o

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:49:09 »
hmmm... red blank set or not to red blank set :(

Any pics of it on boards?

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:52:39 »
hmmm... red blank set or not to red blank set :(

Like dustin said, get or regret.

Worst case you can sell them here in classifieds - if you wait a few months you could sell for double the price ;)
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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 18:54:46 »
hmmm... red blank set or not to red blank set :(

Do it while they are available! Im just too hooked on clacks so had to sell my keysets :o

Lol. You cray.

hmmm... red blank set or not to red blank set :(

Any pics of it on boards?

I've only seen lettered reds on boards before. The color is nice.

hmmm... red blank set or not to red blank set :(

Like dustin said, get or regret.

Worst case you can sell them here in classifieds - if you wait a few months you could sell for double the price ;)

Lol! If I buy them, I probably wouldn't sell them but I guess reselling is always an option, if I end up not liking them.

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 19:17:38 »
I guess I'll just have to forego buying christmas gifts for my family so that I can get the orange blanks before they sell out. It's not really much of a decision if you think about it.

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« Reply #37 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 19:21:35 »
I guess I'll just have to forego buying christmas gifts for my family so that I can get the orange blanks before they sell out. It's not really much of a decision if you think about it.

Lol

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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 19:36:14 »
Or maybe it's a ploy by EK to promote sales of stagnant Topre caps from their shop.

I wondered this as well. Boost those year end sales.

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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 19:40:22 »
So what does this mean for others getting the rights to produce their proprietary design?

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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 19:59:39 »

Get your sets while you can! I already miss mine..


don't worry i'll take good care of the blanks :)
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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 20:03:03 »
So what does this mean for others getting the rights to produce their proprietary design?

well someone has to make key caps for their boards, unless they do what coolermaster did and make inserts to use mx caps

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 20:21:16 »
Can anybody tell me why Topre would not want to make key caps anymore?

Who rakes in the money anyways: Topre or re-sellers (EK)?
 
I guess once all the existing brand new set  are sold out: Topre will be sitting pretty. Anyone wanting two  sets of caps would have to buy  two boards?

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 20:22:19 »

Get your sets while you can! I already miss mine..


don't worry i'll take good care of the blanks :)

Yes please enjoy them!  :)

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Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 20:30:58 »
Topre are like Mercedes. Mercedes  decided to make more cheap models like the A-class and it seems to have worked with them.

Now that topre is expanding its line up with entry level models (typeheaven), I guess they don't see selling loads of caps rather than keyboards as the most profitable route to take....

Edit: We might see the typeheaven instead available in a variety of colour options.
« Last Edit: Wed, 11 December 2013, 20:42:18 by BlackWidowMan777 »

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 20:33:48 »
Move in investor/scalpers
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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:39:08 »

Get your sets while you can! I already miss mine..
I'm trying to find a RF blank white set for my HHKB since i rather not have those grey modifiers.

Lets see if someone would give me a break and let me buy some
« Last Edit: Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:41:14 by Air tree »

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:46:03 »
Hopefully this just means that cm will come out with qft-the quick fire topre with mx stems. then I have a reason for buying caps....

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:51:03 »
Hopefully this just means that cm will come out with qft-the quick fire topre with mx stems. then I have a reason for buying caps....

You realize those boards will probably be really expensive....have you tried topre?

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Re: Sad sad news for topre owners.
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:57:56 »
Hopefully this just means that cm will come out with qft-the quick fire topre with mx stems. then I have a reason for buying caps....

You realize those boards will probably be really expensive....have you tried topre?

It'll probally be around f660c price, if CM makes it too expensive, they risk losing customers