Post by: DreLLin on Mon, 11 September 2017, 04:00:11
Group Buy for the GMK 9009, Classic Retro/Beige International Kit launched!
You can order the Kit at: https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-9009-international-kit-classic-retrobeige_341/
If you already ordered GMK9009 and/or the 40s kit you can email mykeyboard.eu to link both orders and request a refund of the shipping.
Since round 2 of GMK 9009 is around the corner and Originative stocked GMG Classic Retro, I want to see if there is enough interest in running an international kit for black legends on a beige color.
Lots of people in the GMK 9009 IC said that it won't hit moq since a lot of Cherry double shot OG sets should be available but after looking for weeks, I wasn't able to find one in good condition for a reasonable price.
I already bought a set of Classic Retro and am going to buy 2 sets of 9009, so I would myself take 3 international kits. I know that there were some others who also asked for it in the 9009 r2 IC so let's see if we can get this going.
I put up a Google form, so if you are interested, please fill out the form https://goo.gl/forms/EYHHUuPy7eFIqvjj1
For the IC I decided to include 2 Versions. One with a full kit like GMK Carbon and the other as a reduced kit like the one from Nautilus.
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If there is enough interest we can fine tune those kits and I will get a quote from GMK.
Post by: LDobler on Mon, 11 September 2017, 04:02:45
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 11 September 2017, 04:10:11
Post by: DreLLin on Mon, 11 September 2017, 04:20:06
Full kit is missing the swedish 5 key (5 $ and euro symbol), it was lacking in Carbon and Yuri but should be fixed from now on
Thanks for the info. Will for sure add it to the full kit when we get enough interest.
Post by: avid on Mon, 11 September 2017, 06:01:03
1. What will MOQ be? 100? more?
2. Do you have someone to buy up all the missing orders in order to reach MOQ?
Post by: cocobrais on Mon, 11 September 2017, 06:13:56
I really like the reduced kit and would probably pick up a kit. The problem as i see it is this. Nautilus sold around 2500 base-kits and 100 international kits.gmk moq for international kit is 100 and next 150
1. What will MOQ be? 100? more?
2. Do you have someone to buy up all the missing orders in order to reach MOQ?
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Post by: avid on Mon, 11 September 2017, 06:22:29
The great thing about this set is that it will go with any beige kits.
Post by: pomk on Mon, 11 September 2017, 07:09:52
Post by: kolruds on Mon, 11 September 2017, 07:36:21
Ok! Being optimistic - lets say it reach 50 or so kits, would anyone be willing to buy $1500-2000 or so for the other 50?
The great thing about this set is that it will go with any beige kits.
With classic beige being such a common colorway, with all the old doubleshots around, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be willing to buy a few sets. Won't be able to do 50 sets, but I could maybe do 5-10, depending on price.
For me as a norwegian, the reduced set really has all I need, so it gets my vote, especially regarding price. The carbon set certainly does cover more languages, but at a cost.
Going by the last numbers posted by MD, Yuri sold 935 base kits, with 40 "big" intl kits at 57.99USD, and Nautilus sold 1899 base and 82 reduced intl kits at 37.99USD. That gives roughly one international kit per 23 base kits. I'm not exactly sure which classic beige type sets have been made, and how many has been sold, but we'd need 2300 base sets of some sort to break even with those numbers at 100 MOQ. That's a lot of sets!
I'm trying to stay as positive as possible here, I'm really pro intl kits, as a norwegian and ISO lover I really like it when my custom boards reflect my language. The reduced set doesn't cover ISO-NO 100%, but it has the most essential caps for it. I know the discussion for which caps should be in the kit has been up many times, so I'm not gonna start one now, but for me both works. Reduced gets me a long way, but the big set gets me everything I need, so it's a tradeoff either way.
On a positive note though, it seems people are willing to pay the extra 20 dollars for the big set compared to the reduced one, which is a good thing for compatibility for everyone.
Have you tried contacting any vendors with this? Maybe they'd be able to buy some to keep in stock for anyone wanting to convert their OG G80 board? I know I'd buy one if I ever came across a G80-2100, thats for sure!
Post by: DreLLin on Mon, 11 September 2017, 08:22:45
Ok! Being optimistic - lets say it reach 50 or so kits, would anyone be willing to buy $1500-2000 or so for the other 50?
The great thing about this set is that it will go with any beige kits.
With classic beige being such a common colorway, with all the old doubleshots around, I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd be willing to buy a few sets. Won't be able to do 50 sets, but I could maybe do 5-10, depending on price.
For me as a norwegian, the reduced set really has all I need, so it gets my vote, especially regarding price. The carbon set certainly does cover more languages, but at a cost.
Going by the last numbers posted by MD, Yuri sold 935 base kits, with 40 "big" intl kits at 57.99USD, and Nautilus sold 1899 base and 82 reduced intl kits at 37.99USD. That gives roughly one international kit per 23 base kits. I'm not exactly sure which classic beige type sets have been made, and how many has been sold, but we'd need 2300 base sets of some sort to break even with those numbers at 100 MOQ. That's a lot of sets!
I'm trying to stay as positive as possible here, I'm really pro intl kits, as a norwegian and ISO lover I really like it when my custom boards reflect my language. The reduced set doesn't cover ISO-NO 100%, but it has the most essential caps for it. I know the discussion for which caps should be in the kit has been up many times, so I'm not gonna start one now, but for me both works. Reduced gets me a long way, but the big set gets me everything I need, so it's a tradeoff either way.
On a positive note though, it seems people are willing to pay the extra 20 dollars for the big set compared to the reduced one, which is a good thing for compatibility for everyone.
Have you tried contacting any vendors with this? Maybe they'd be able to buy some to keep in stock for anyone wanting to convert their OG G80 board? I know I'd buy one if I ever came across a G80-2100, thats for sure!
Yes I am already in contact with candykeys and they want to get back to me regarding it.
We already have 17 people who filled out the form. For such a short timeframe it's not that bad I guess.
Since so many of you want 2 or even more sets, I should have added an option to state that in the form.
Post by: ctrlX on Tue, 12 September 2017, 06:33:53
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Post by: DreLLin on Wed, 13 September 2017, 08:55:52
Post by: Norde on Sat, 16 September 2017, 13:31:13
Post by: DreLLin on Tue, 26 September 2017, 07:46:35
Post by: xondat on Tue, 26 September 2017, 09:30:45
Better to run it and fail instead of never trying.
Post by: ctrlX on Tue, 26 September 2017, 09:31:18
If you promote it enough I think there is a chance it could happen. FWIW it's the first time I'm seeing this thread, so lots of people may have missed this.Agree.
Better to run it and fail instead of never trying.
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Post by: Trousers on Sun, 01 October 2017, 13:19:26
Post by: t8c on Sun, 01 October 2017, 13:30:46
Post by: DreLLin on Sun, 01 October 2017, 13:52:51
Post by: darthzero on Tue, 03 October 2017, 04:55:32
Imho you should decide on a kit, get the price from GMK and run the gb. If it ain't gonna make it we know for sure but at this state i think the interest check doesn't wield meaningful results.
The price is(at least to me) a pretty important factor in deciding which kit i want so at least i can't fill out your form even though i would be totally in ^^ and maybe that is the case for others too...
The longer you wait the worse it will get because there may be people that would want to buy 9009 but don't commit because of no int kit.
just my 2 cents, best of luck though
edit: damn ok i could have just based my decision on the md prices.. will fill out the survey now as it would make any difference :/
Post by: DreLLin on Wed, 04 October 2017, 07:36:11
Since 78% of the votes are for the "Complete Kit" it will definitely be the large kit. If there is anything wrong or missing in this kit, please let me know.
Post by: ctrlX on Wed, 04 October 2017, 08:02:02
We are at 70 kits now, so I will get a quote from GMK and try to get this into GB phase as soon as possible. ;D
Since 78% of the votes are for the "Complete Kit" it will definitely be the large kit. If there is anything wrong or missing in this kit, please let me know.
Wow! I'd be so happy if this international kit comes through!
Post by: t8c on Wed, 04 October 2017, 08:22:33
Post by: dr-slump on Wed, 04 October 2017, 11:28:54
Thanks for organizing this IC!
Viel Spaß mit dem M-65 ;D
Grüße :thumb:
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 04 October 2017, 12:14:48
Full kit is missing the swedish 5 key (5 $ and euro symbol), it was lacking in Carbon and Yuri but should be fixed from now on
Thanks for the info. Will for sure add it to the full kit when we get enough interest.
Hope this is still on your radar
Post by: DreLLin on Wed, 04 October 2017, 14:38:48
Full kit is missing the swedish 5 key (5 $ and euro symbol), it was lacking in Carbon and Yuri but should be fixed from now on
Thanks for the info. Will for sure add it to the full kit when we get enough interest.
Hope this is still on your radar
Just looked up the swedish layout and it should be 5, % and € on that key?
Post by: ctrlX on Wed, 04 October 2017, 15:12:20
Full kit is missing the swedish 5 key (5 $ and euro symbol), it was lacking in Carbon and Yuri but should be fixed from now on
Thanks for the info. Will for sure add it to the full kit when we get enough interest.
Hope this is still on your radar
Just looked up the swedish layout and it should be 5, % and € on that key?
True, but the € character is also available on the E key which is according to the Swedish layout and included in the this kit. Hence I feel the 5 key with € character is not worth the extra cost. Just my two cents.
Post by: DreLLin on Wed, 04 October 2017, 15:30:17
Full kit is missing the swedish 5 key (5 $ and euro symbol), it was lacking in Carbon and Yuri but should be fixed from now on
Thanks for the info. Will for sure add it to the full kit when we get enough interest.
Oh if it's also on the E key I think we can skip the extra 5 key.
Hope this is still on your radar
Just looked up the swedish layout and it should be 5, % and € on that key?
True, but the € character is also available on the E key which is according to the Swedish layout and included in the this kit. Hence I feel the 5 key with € character is not worth the extra cost. Just my two cents.
Post by: Trousers on Wed, 04 October 2017, 16:23:51
True, but the € character is also available on the E key which is according to the Swedish layout and included in the this kit. Hence I feel the 5 key with € character is not worth the extra cost. Just my two cents.
But surely there is no sense in having $ on the 5 key, if it's already on the 4. Regardless of where the € is.
Post by: DreLLin on Wed, 04 October 2017, 16:37:58
Post by: ctrlX on Wed, 04 October 2017, 16:54:45
True, but the € character is also available on the E key which is according to the Swedish layout and included in the this kit. Hence I feel the 5 key with € character is not worth the extra cost. Just my two cents.
But surely there is no sense in having $ on the 5 key, if it's already on the 4. Regardless of where the € is.
I don't follow.. The $ is not on the 5 key according to Swedish layout. Can't say for other layouts on the other hand.
$ is on the 4 key along with ¤.
Post by: sysfury on Thu, 05 October 2017, 01:57:42
Full kit is missing the swedish 5 key (5 $ and euro symbol), it was lacking in Carbon and Yuri but should be fixed from now onThe Swedish layout does not have $ on the 5 key.
The Swedish layout has % on the 5 key (and € on the AltGr level).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/KB_Sweden.svg/2000px-KB_Sweden.svg.png
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 05 October 2017, 04:13:33
Full kit is missing the swedish 5 key (5 $ and euro symbol), it was lacking in Carbon and Yuri but should be fixed from now onThe Swedish layout does not have $ on the 5 key.
The Swedish layout has % on the 5 key (and € on the AltGr level).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/KB_Sweden.svg/2000px-KB_Sweden.svg.png
That’s what I saw yesterday. Looks like the Swedish layout has two € one on E and one on the 5. On the 5 it’s with % and € but since we have a 5 with % which is only missing the € we won’t take another key to the kit just for the €. I hope that’s ok for our friends from Sweden. :)
Post by: ctrlX on Thu, 05 October 2017, 04:23:21
Exactly my point a few posts back. I am totally fine with that. Never really understood why the Swedish layout has two € keys...Full kit is missing the swedish 5 key (5 $ and euro symbol), it was lacking in Carbon and Yuri but should be fixed from now onThe Swedish layout does not have $ on the 5 key.
The Swedish layout has % on the 5 key (and € on the AltGr level).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/KB_Sweden.svg/2000px-KB_Sweden.svg.png
That’s what I saw yesterday. Looks like the Swedish layout has two € one on E and one on the 5. On the 5 it’s with % and € but since we have a 5 with % which is only missing the € we won’t take another key to the kit just for the €. I hope that’s ok for our friends from Sweden. :)
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Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 05 October 2017, 04:46:09
Full kit is missing the swedish 5 key (5 $ and euro symbol), it was lacking in Carbon and Yuri but should be fixed from now onThe Swedish layout does not have $ on the 5 key.
The Swedish layout has % on the 5 key (and € on the AltGr level).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/KB_Sweden.svg/2000px-KB_Sweden.svg.png
Sorry I remembered incorrectly. I did it correct on my SA kit though
(https://oblotzky.github.io/sa-oblivion/images/kits_background_jpg/sa_oblivion_kit_19_oblivion_norde.jpg)
Post by: Felion on Thu, 05 October 2017, 06:22:17
Post by: DreLLin on Sat, 07 October 2017, 03:03:28
Post by: xondat on Sat, 07 October 2017, 03:05:33
Just got the quote from GMK. For a MOQ of 150 the price will be about 40€ + shipping. Since a MOQ of 150 is unrealistic we are now trying to push it down to 100 kits without increasing the price too much.
That's a pretty reasonable price, but I agree about the MOQ.
Post by: dorf on Mon, 09 October 2017, 06:48:40
Post by: xondat on Mon, 09 October 2017, 11:26:10
With the base kit now over 250 there must be an interest for this kit? Or am I wrong?
I'd say you're right.
It will fall flat on it's face if it doesn't launch when 9009 R2 is open.
Post by: avid on Mon, 09 October 2017, 11:34:27
With the base kit now over 250 there must be an interest for this kit? Or am I wrong?
International kits has historically been like 2-4% or so of base-kits. +2000 nautilus and only 100 int. yuri (950?) and 40ish int.
Post by: DreLLin on Mon, 09 October 2017, 16:12:48
(https://i.imgur.com/U58UeDt.png)
Sure there will be some people who got Classic Retro from Originative or 9009 from round 1 but I think It's still impossible to reach 150 kits.
I am now waiting for a reply from GMK for a price at a lower MOQ of 100 kits.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 09 October 2017, 17:22:39
With the base kit now over 250 there must be an interest for this kit? Or am I wrong?
International kits has historically been like 2-4% or so of base-kits. +2000 nautilus and only 100 int. yuri (950?) and 40ish int.
Nautilus is the first international kit I've seen tip. I think Yuri's may have as well, but only because MD ordered extras.
Post by: avid on Mon, 09 October 2017, 17:27:07
With the base kit now over 250 there must be an interest for this kit? Or am I wrong?
International kits has historically been like 2-4% or so of base-kits. +2000 nautilus and only 100 int. yuri (950?) and 40ish int.
Nautilus is the first international kit I've seen tip. I think Yuri's may have as well, but only because MD ordered extras.
Yep. I also think that the compromized kit helped alot. Most people only use 4-5 keys from int. kit so paying $60 for that is kinda outrageous. $40 not so much.
Post by: ctrlX on Tue, 10 October 2017, 01:07:01
International kit for GMK Carbon also tipped. GB was via Massdrop though. Dunno if that helped it.With the base kit now over 250 there must be an interest for this kit? Or am I wrong?
International kits has historically been like 2-4% or so of base-kits. +2000 nautilus and only 100 int. yuri (950?) and 40ish int.
Nautilus is the first international kit I've seen tip. I think Yuri's may have as well, but only because MD ordered extras.
$60 is a lot for a few keys but I personally do not mind for such a classic colour scheme. I'd buy it anyway.
Post by: pomk on Tue, 10 October 2017, 03:32:17
Plum international was produced as well.With the base kit now over 250 there must be an interest for this kit? Or am I wrong?
International kits has historically been like 2-4% or so of base-kits. +2000 nautilus and only 100 int. yuri (950?) and 40ish int.
Nautilus is the first international kit I've seen tip. I think Yuri's may have as well, but only because MD ordered extras.
Post by: DreLLin on Sun, 15 October 2017, 16:03:35
I told him that it's unlikely to get 150 kits sold and he assured me that he'll send me a new quote for a MOQ of 100 kits next week.
Even if we won't reach 100 kits they will help us and will be happy to produce it. So hopefully we will have the GB on mykeyboard.eu up in a few days.
Post by: dorf on Mon, 16 October 2017, 01:38:12
I had the chance to talk to Christoph Kredler from GMK yesterday at Mechanicon 2017 (German meetup in Frankfurt).
I told him that it's unlikely to get 150 kits sold and he assured me that he'll send me a new quote for a MOQ of 100 kits next week.
Even if we won't reach 100 kits they will help us and will be happy to produce it. So hopefully we will have the GB on mykeyboard.eu up in a few days.
Good news! Looking forward to it.
Post by: ctrlX on Mon, 16 October 2017, 03:35:09
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Post by: DreLLin on Mon, 16 October 2017, 10:28:51
I have forwarded all the details to Mykeyboard.eu and they will hopefully be able to launch the GB tomorrow. By the way we both agreed about doing it for the community without taking any profit. ;)
Post by: ctrlX on Mon, 16 October 2017, 12:04:30
Ok, got the new quote from GMK and we should be able to stay close to 45€ + shipping for a MOQ of 100!!! :DGood job! :)
I have forwarded all the details to Mykeyboard.eu and they will hopefully be able to launch the GB tomorrow. By the way we both agreed about doing it for the community without taking any profit. ;)
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Post by: fax668 on Wed, 18 October 2017, 13:22:42
Post by: DreLLin on Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:24:22
Any news from Mykeyboard.eu? The GB doesn't seem to be up yet.
Still waiting for a reply from mykeyboard.eu so sadly no update yet. Will get a rendering from GMK later this week.
Post by: necromanx on Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:29:50
Post by: DreLLin on Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:40:19
Update send ;-)
Thank you so much! :)
So the GB is up and you can now order at https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-9009-international-kit-classic-retrobeige_341/ (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-9009-international-kit-classic-retrobeige_341/)!!!
Final price is 54€ which is due to the higher Belgium 21% VAT, Paypal fees, packing and handling costs, and shipping inside EU.
I think it's still a very reasonable price.
If you already ordered GMK9009 and/or the 40s kit you can email mykeyboard.eu to link both orders and request a refund of the shipping.
Post by: fax668 on Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:42:50
Post by: darthzero on Wed, 18 October 2017, 17:33:35
Thank you both so much, ordered and will send an email tomorrow.Update send ;-)
Thank you so much! :)
So the GB is up and you can now order at https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-9009-international-kit-classic-retrobeige_341/ (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-9009-international-kit-classic-retrobeige_341/)!!!
Final price is 54€ which is due to the higher Belgium 21% VAT, Paypal fees, packing and handling costs, and shipping inside EU.
I think it's still a very reasonable price.
If you already ordered GMK9009 and/or the 40s kit you can email mykeyboard.eu to link both orders and request a refund of the shipping.
GL with hitting the moq.
Post by: Trousers on Thu, 19 October 2017, 01:13:45
I'm interested in this, but the base kit alone is useless to me if this doesn't get produced. Yet the practical details are very fuzzy. If I order both, but this doesn't get enough orders, will I be able to cancel the base kit order?
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 19 October 2017, 03:50:58
Due to the fact that it won’t be easy to reach MOQ I hope we will let this one open for at least a month. I‘ll reach out to mykeyboard.eu and we will update with a closing date.
The base and 40s kit will close this Saturday and I am sure that even if the international kit won’t reach MOQ you can easily sell the base kit for or even above GB price.
Post by: DreLLin on Fri, 20 October 2017, 05:45:22
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Post by: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 20 October 2017, 12:42:32