Author Topic: [IC] VANQUISH65 by Geon - The Tray mount (20-10-23 update (Read 121076 times)

peaceperfection · « **Reply #50 on:** Thu, 22 October 2020, 22:19:06 »

Can’t wait for it! I’m so getting my first ever tray mount keyboard for custom scene. Any idea how will the GB work? If I’m not able to get it this round, will there be a round 2?

lush_bunny · « **Reply #51 on:** Fri, 23 October 2020, 00:11:09 »

I am very curious about the dampener. Typing feel is all up there, and I can only go by what Geon says (and perhaps the people to whom he gives protoypes as well). But I want to know the audio profile vs using a sheet of EVA foam / neoprene / sorbothane. I'm trying to create a classy quiet mech, so I'm watching this thread.

geonworks · « **Reply #52 on:** Fri, 23 October 2020, 08:37:35 »

I added it because there was an opinion to add ISO first. And because of the structure, the left SHIFT key cannot be divided into two.
In order to reduce the unit price from the previous method of using iron core, the bracket was changed to a single body and because it may be too flexible, the plan is to place a reinforcement plate on top of PCB.

Sck · « **Reply #53 on:** Sun, 25 October 2020, 15:20:12 »

Big interest in this one for sure!

dibstern · « **Reply #54 on:** Sun, 25 October 2020, 17:58:52 »

Keen to see how this goes! Nice work!

audax989 · « **Reply #55 on:** Sun, 25 October 2020, 18:06:38 »

intrigued to see the prototype and torsion beams in action.

Raptor_N60 · « **Reply #56 on:** Mon, 26 October 2020, 23:53:59 »

Would there be plate options as well? Otherwise hotswap would not be possible

DoctorZuluMD · « **Reply #57 on:** Fri, 06 November 2020, 23:14:21 »

I'm in.

BapoDonu · « **Reply #58 on:** Fri, 06 November 2020, 23:28:48 »

geon so lit

Mechkeeb · « **Reply #59 on:** Sun, 08 November 2020, 03:01:26 »

Whats the price and when is the GB so hype for this

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dmatx1 · « **Reply #60 on:** Sun, 08 November 2020, 03:06:22 »

Quote from: Mechkeeb on Sun, 08 November 2020, 03:01:26

Whats the price and when is the GB so hype for this

Estimated price in first post:

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Price : Under $300 without Ship,VAT,White color

No GB date yet.

santela · « **Reply #61 on:** Sun, 08 November 2020, 08:31:00 »

Looks very interesting, and I'm always looking to try new mounting methods or structures. But I wish someone could offer a bit more explanation about this structure, how it works, what are the (theoretical) advantages or disadvantages.

Zeelobby · « **Reply #62 on:** Sun, 08 November 2020, 09:06:49 »

Cons of tray mount: tends to be stiff and inconsistent in both sound and feel. This is because of the posts the pcb/plate is screwed onto.

Pros: Most standardized PCBs come with tray mount holes (mostly just 60s tho). Allows for easier pcb replacement. Also tray mount boards tend to cost significantly less as they can usually be machined in a single main piece.

This board: attempts to resolve the cons by implementing torsion beams for those mounting points, allowing for some flex and maybe better acoustics.

santela · « **Reply #63 on:** Sun, 08 November 2020, 09:34:37 »

Quote from: Zeelobby on Sun, 08 November 2020, 09:06:49

Cons of tray mount: tends to be stiff and inconsistent in both sound and feel. This is because of the posts the pcb/plate is screwed onto.

Pros: Most standardized PCBs come with tray mount holes (mostly just 60s tho). Allows for easier pcb replacement. Also tray mount boards tend to cost significantly less as they can usually be machined in a single main piece.

This board: attempts to resolve the cons by implementing torsion beams for those mounting points, allowing for some flex and maybe better acoustics.

I'm curious if it will be able to compare with some of the more "superior" mounting systems out there? Obviously I guess we'll have to see the board to know, but I wonder if it will simply improve on tray mount, or will it give us a unique typing experience all together.

geonworks · « **Reply #64 on:** Tue, 17 November 2020, 03:29:28 »

Quote from: Raptor_N60 on Mon, 26 October 2020, 23:53:59

Would there be plate options as well? Otherwise hotswap would not be possible

Silicone foam and plate are also prepared.

geonworks · « **Reply #65 on:** Tue, 17 November 2020, 03:31:57 »

Quote from: santela on Sun, 08 November 2020, 09:34:37

Quote from: Zeelobby on Sun, 08 November 2020, 09:06:49
Cons of tray mount: tends to be stiff and inconsistent in both sound and feel. This is because of the posts the pcb/plate is screwed onto.

Pros: Most standardized PCBs come with tray mount holes (mostly just 60s tho). Allows for easier pcb replacement. Also tray mount boards tend to cost significantly less as they can usually be machined in a single main piece.

This board: attempts to resolve the cons by implementing torsion beams for those mounting points, allowing for some flex and maybe better acoustics.

I'm curious if it will be able to compare with some of the more "superior" mounting systems out there? Obviously I guess we'll have to see the board to know, but I wonder if it will simply improve on tray mount, or will it give us a unique typing experience all together.

Nothing can be said to be superior. You'd better say it's pleasantly used by someone.

IMZO · « **Reply #66 on:** Tue, 17 November 2020, 08:52:16 »

this is really interesting.. totally in!

LucaLo_ · « **Reply #67 on:** Tue, 17 November 2020, 08:57:26 »

Really cool concept here, know Geon's gonna nail it.

d4vid4f · « **Reply #68 on:** Tue, 17 November 2020, 09:33:21 »

Very intrigued! great work!

hiddensong · « **Reply #69 on:** Tue, 17 November 2020, 19:14:48 »

Ooooooooh. Now this here.

m1raz · « **Reply #70 on:** Tue, 17 November 2020, 20:31:26 »

Interested, want to try this one out!

pixelpusher · « **Reply #71 on:** Wed, 25 November 2020, 02:02:26 »

Will you post an update here when the Group Buy starts or do we just have to watch the vendor discord servers?

Also, the image shows "switch interference." Is this a problem needing to be solved or is there a solution?

jm8080 · « **Reply #72 on:** Wed, 25 November 2020, 02:36:18 »

This is super interesting, never really had a plateless board before

lush_bunny · « **Reply #73 on:** Wed, 25 November 2020, 07:00:47 »

Quote from: jm8080 on Wed, 25 November 2020, 02:36:18

This is super interesting, never really had a plateless board before

My first custom is plateless. Pretty easy on the fingers, and the sound profile sounds a little bit more pleasing.
This looks like an entirely different beast though.

hottrout · « **Reply #74 on:** Sat, 28 November 2020, 04:29:49 »

Very interested in your leaf spring design and what that would bring to the feeling from this board. I don't really want anymore 65% keyboards and would much prefer a 75% or TKL but I could be tempted into buying this to see what the design works like.

Great to see original thinking and design.

fluidin · « **Reply #75 on:** Sun, 29 November 2020, 01:32:42 »

hoping for a hotswap option

dmatx1 · « **Reply #76 on:** Sun, 29 November 2020, 02:52:22 »

SmoothFaces · « **Reply #77 on:** Sun, 29 November 2020, 19:25:04 »

this is so clean. amazing keeb

LordOwen · « **Reply #78 on:** Sun, 29 November 2020, 22:24:58 »

I haven't gone with a tray mount before, so I'm very intrigued by this concept and design! I hope that I can build one for myself.

SherlockBunny · « **Reply #79 on:** Mon, 30 November 2020, 15:16:01 »

I hope this keyboard restores my faith in tray mounts! Can't wait to try it out!

Quick question: does the PCB support split-backspace and, if it doesn't, would you consider changing the PCB to accommodate split-backspace?

futurekatsu · « **Reply #80 on:** Tue, 01 December 2020, 01:15:57 »

This looks great! Excited to see prototypes.
Will the pcb work with VIA?

kk73715 · « **Reply #81 on:** Tue, 01 December 2020, 01:43:13 »

innovative mounting method with a good price point, really hoping I can join this

good luck with your first international run, Geon!

paulgali · « **Reply #82 on:** Thu, 10 December 2020, 06:03:50 »

Hi Geon, its treeleaf

acaban · « **Reply #83 on:** Thu, 10 December 2020, 07:15:41 »

I can't tell if the flex toward the center is as much as the flex at the angles (inclination) and if the latter could cause issue with SA key caps, also: is the kind of flex and movement, that seems pivoting the center, useful for the typing experince aside of isolating maybe the sound of the caps from the case?

CommonDandy · « **Reply #84 on:** Thu, 10 December 2020, 21:33:29 »

count me in this looks so good

BeachFan69 · « **Reply #85 on:** Thu, 10 December 2020, 22:29:58 »

So in for this.

grundlemere · « **Reply #86 on:** Fri, 11 December 2020, 09:42:17 »

This is a very cool idea at a very attractive price point. And, your reputation seems to precede you. Really nice to see something different that isn't a bizarre cash grab considering the week we've had here!

donny_pete · « **Reply #87 on:** Fri, 11 December 2020, 11:29:19 »

Incredibly excited to see the first INTL board by you!

actress · « **Reply #88 on:** Fri, 11 December 2020, 11:43:28 »

Thank you for allowing international buyers!
I'm hoping there will be multiple rounds so people can actually get it

Dunne · « **Reply #89 on:** Fri, 11 December 2020, 13:40:57 »

Geon makes keyboards and this makes me smile

-janitor- · « **Reply #90 on:** Fri, 11 December 2020, 15:06:03 »

Beautiful!

Ensaum · « **Reply #91 on:** Fri, 11 December 2020, 16:47:05 »

This is such an interesting design, and I feel like the price point makes it a no brainer. Looking forward to this project.

Afresh · « **Reply #92 on:** Sun, 13 December 2020, 08:36:10 »

Interested for sure

chewtooloud · « **Reply #93 on:** Sun, 13 December 2020, 13:26:39 »

Great work Geon! Looking forward to the GB and F2-84 of course!

treeleaf64 · « **Reply #94 on:** Sun, 13 December 2020, 15:56:32 »

dibstern · « **Reply #95 on:** Sun, 13 December 2020, 17:21:49 »

ETA on a few sound tests? Planning on getting some streamers on board to test it out?

AllieBlairThomas · « **Reply #96 on:** Sun, 13 December 2020, 17:38:43 »

I'm a simple woman. I see a baller 65%, I save it so I can buy it later.

mawli · « **Reply #97 on:** Sat, 19 December 2020, 05:42:36 »

Interesting mounting design. I'm really looking forward to this!

ltnick · « **Reply #98 on:** Sat, 19 December 2020, 07:09:47 »

Came across this on YouTube:

hkhawk · « **Reply #99 on:** Sat, 19 December 2020, 14:17:05 »

Quote from: ltnick on Sat, 19 December 2020, 07:09:47

Came across this on YouTube:

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Author Topic: [IC] VANQUISH65 by Geon - The Tray mount (20-10-23 update (Read 121076 times)