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Hello, friends of Geekhack,

We are excited to reopen our IC for G60, with better features than last time. G60 is a retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard designed by Scott from the Basic I/O Instruments (BIOI). After obtaining feedback from the GH community in a previous IC and a successful trial run private GB, Scott has optimized many fine details, and we believe G60 warrants a full run at GH.

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Its key features are as follows.

1. The design is inspired by Cherry G80-3000 Series, the size is cut down to 60%.
2. Aluminum 6061
3. 10 Colors available
4. Top-bottom case design
5. Compatible with both Top Mount and standard GH60 style tray mount
6. Compatible with most PCBs based on GH60 (via an included FPC extension kit)
7. Optional high-performance QMK-based Bluetooth/USB Dual Mode PCB designed by BIOI
8. Compatible with both USB-C and USB-Mini
9. Multiple layouts compatibility, NEW POLL HERE
10. Optional plate material (PC, CF, Brass) and optional 4mm thick plates, NEW POLL HERE
11. Designed by Scott from BIOI
12. Manufactured by ALF

Let us know what you think, and please provide feedback! Kindly fill out the Interest Check Form below.

Click to Fill Out the G60 Interest Check Form

Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates, optional plate material, and layout options

Updates:

10/8/2018: R2 prototype is being made
11/10/2018: Second R2 prototype is being made

Projected Timeline:
Now - Late December: Prototype and finetuning details
Mid-January: Start Geekhack GB

« Last Edit: Fri, 04 January 2019, 19:26:10 by oldcat »

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:31:42 »
Interested. So it is a hybrid mounting system? Top-mount plate AND tray mount poles?

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:33:01 »
 :D thanks oldcat!
After 6 months testing, it's time to intruduce G60 to everyone now...

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:33:20 »
Interested. So it is a hybrid mounting system? Top-mount plate AND tray mount poles?

Yes :)

And plus, it's compatible with regular PCB, plus dual mode QMK-based PCB.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:35:20 »
Very interested.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 12:36:44 »
Yes, finally!!! I've been waiting for this board for so long!!!
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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 13:19:14 »
Will the Bluetooth/USB dual mode code be contributed to QMK?

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 13:27:36 »
Very excited, hope this happens in the near future

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 13:33:24 »
Thanks for keeping the tray mount compatibility!

I know many people prefer top mount but I have an old keyboard I wanna swap cases with lol.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 13:38:07 »
Remember seeing this, really dig the lines. I’d be interested

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 14:01:16 »
Nice. Bluetooth + QMK would be a rare and outstanding feature. If that happens, i am in for one.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 14:03:55 »
This looks really interesting! May have to jump in on this depending on price. I have bought way too much stuff this year.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 14:08:48 »
Top mount G60! Can't wait to have one.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 15:35:04 »
Will the Bluetooth/USB dual mode code be contributed to QMK?

Please ask Scott directly :)
« Last Edit: Wed, 12 September 2018, 15:36:38 by oldcat »

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 17:05:17 »
Nice!!!

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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 17:22:47 »
In for at least two! Any chance there might be an option for HHKB layout blockers?

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 18:50:11 »
:D thanks oldcat!
After 6 months testing, it's time to intruduce G60 to everyone now...

Scott my man!

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 19:03:57 »
:D thanks oldcat!
After 6 months testing, it's time to intruduce G60 to everyone now...

Scott my man!

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 19:50:22 »
This could definitely tempt me to get another 60...

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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 20:54:38 »
I'm in on this.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 22:40:01 »
Scott,

I bought one from your private GB (via a friend) it is still in transit to me though. May i know if it is also compatible with top mount plates? If so, i can just get a pcb/plate from the GB?
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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 12 September 2018, 23:10:48 »
Is there anywhere to see all the possible layouts?


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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 00:15:58 »
Can you provide some more information about the PCB? Supported layouts?

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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 00:38:50 »
Is there anywhere to see all the possible layouts?

At this time, ANSI and ANSI with arrow clusters are supported

I will ask Scott to provide some more details for his own dual mode pcb and if you use your own pcb

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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 02:22:05 »
Intersted

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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 03:23:31 »
This is super nice. What are the plate material options for tray-mount and top-mount respectively?

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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 04:05:04 »
Off-white or beige colour case please!

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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 05:39:15 »
Really dig the design, not psyched by ALF's color catalog. I would love a gold/copper/brass/champagne or even a timid yellow like on the Leaf.

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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 07:09:23 »
Really dig the design, not psyched by ALF's color catalog. I would love a gold/copper/brass/champagne or even a timid yellow like on the Leaf.

I agree with this retro design

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 08:23:49 »
Off-white or beige colour case please!

Agreed with this, it'd be great to pair with 9009 or OG beige caps.

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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 10:31:11 »
+1 for beige option.  Need that retro look

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 13:06:37 »
Is there anywhere to see all the possible layouts?

The current plan is to allow layouts similar to XD60, Scott shared this layout image with me. We will update when the new PCB comes in!

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« Reply #32 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 17:34:02 »
Nice. I like this and count me in.

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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 20:50:19 »
Would also really love split spacebar support please.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 23:47:57 »
Very interested, this feels like a good landing spot for some OG POMs that I have been sitting on for a while now!

I'll likely be sticking with top mount, but would you be able to comment on the number of mounting points you intend to include for tray mount?

Quick edit: Would you also be able to comment on the projected price?
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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 00:10:51 »
Very interested, this feels like a good landing spot for some OG POMs that I have been sitting on for a while now!

I'll likely be sticking with top mount, but would you be able to comment on the number of mounting points you intend to include for tray mount?

Quick edit: Would you also be able to comment on the projected price?

Scott may be able to comment on number of mounting points (assume tray mount will be standard mounting on pcb).

For your information, the private GB was $250 and it Scott lost money on the GB as he made multiple prototypes. That said, we will keep the GB price as low as possible.
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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 00:23:53 »
Will there be a WKL version of the case too?

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« Reply #37 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 06:00:06 »
This is just too cute to pass up.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 07:41:59 »
would love to buy one of these

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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 12:31:23 »
This is just too cute to pass up.


Let's increase the cuteness level :)

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 12:38:51 »
This spacing seems off, any chance of a fix for R2?


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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 12:45:35 »
This spacing seems off, any chance of a fix for R2?

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Yes. I have talked to Scott and he said this has been fixed in the new prototype.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 13:12:36 »
will there be support for iso layouts?
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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 13:47:32 »
Consider my interest "checked". I like the idea of running it similar to an HHKB layout, with ctrl in the capslock spot, delete/backspace above enter, and all 1u keys across the top.

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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 17:46:37 »
will there be support for iso layouts?

I will check with Scott on the ISO layout.

Edit: yes it's positive. Layouts are super flexible with this.
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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 17:54:46 »
thanks!
will there be support for iso layouts?

I will check with Scott on the ISO layout.
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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 18:28:25 »
will there be support for iso layouts?

I will check with Scott on the ISO layout.

I thought one could use almost any 60% with this?

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« Reply #47 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 21:53:49 »
will there be support for iso layouts?

I will check with Scott on the ISO layout.

I think you 100% can if you use traymount and your pcb of choice

I thought one could use almost any 60% with this?
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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #48 on: Sat, 15 September 2018, 16:26:53 »
Count me in as well

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 15 September 2018, 21:05:54 »
Is there anywhere to see all the possible layouts?

The current plan is to allow layouts similar to XD60, Scott shared this layout image with me. We will update when the new PCB comes in!

(Attachment Link)

i think spacebar too long.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #50 on: Sat, 15 September 2018, 21:23:44 »
Interested! 60%+Arrow keys layout, Bluetooth plus USB C plus QMK is a winner for me.
Model M Industrial, SSK, Unicomp 104, Code TKL MX Green, FC660M MX Green + Clear + White + Grey, FC660C Topre 45g, MagicForce 68 USB and Bluetooth, Whitefox, some optical switch 65% Bluetooth split spacebar thing ... wait, I think I need an intervention. Too late, there’s a couple of new Model Fs on the way.
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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 08:44:13 »
In. HHKB or normal, white or silver. Love it.

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« Reply #52 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 10:56:55 »
Interested! 60%+Arrow keys layout, Bluetooth plus USB C plus QMK is a winner for me.


Personally, 60% ANSI + Arrow cluster is a winner for me too :) haha

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 05:40:08 »
I'm a bit afraid that you want to much for this case.
Every compatibility has disadvantages.
For example the bluetooth integration is something I don't like because it needs a hollow space for battery and I won't use it.
Not sure about the double-mount. Best case it's just a bit more expensive, but perhaps there are other compromises to be made.
 
The design is so great and I hope it doesn't suffer to much from all this.
I would be happy if it was just an ordinary top-mount (or even tray-mount only) case.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #54 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 06:55:02 »
I'm a bit afraid that you want to much for this case.
Every compatibility has disadvantages.
For example the bluetooth integration is something I don't like because it needs a hollow space for battery and I won't use it.
Not sure about the double-mount. Best case it's just a bit more expensive, but perhaps there are other compromises to be made.
 
The design is so great and I hope it doesn't suffer to much from all this.
I would be happy if it was just an ordinary top-mount (or even tray-mount only) case.
I have to agree with this. I don't care a bit for Bluetooth or wireless here. Especially for a board that is meant to be a recreation of something that is classic. Personally I'd rather just get one type of mount and be over with it.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 07:23:27 »
I also don't care for Bluetooth. I embrace the wires!

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 17:33:44 »
I also don't care for Bluetooth. I embrace the wires!

Hey this will be dual mode :) You can always use wires!

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dropping a few real nice ones, this is interesting i like how it looks simple.

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Would have a really hard time deciding between white and black.  Love this case.

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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.

My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.

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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

I think the standoffs could be sitting a bit lower than the top mount pcb position so that you could still have most of the flex if you choose top mount.

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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

I think the standoffs could be sitting a bit lower than the top mount pcb position so that you could still have most of the flex if you choose top mount.

Yes, this.  I say put the tray mount posts a bit lower AND THEN... include a very short rubber standoff to add on top of the posts for tray mount.  Adding shock absorbing material on tray mount posts has great effects, and it would solve your dual mount delima by allowing top mount to retain flex and giving tray mount a unique setup for better shock absorption.

I like the idea of accommodating both.  Nice work.

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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.

My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.

That's all nice, but i guess that are things most of us are doing with kbdfans cases.

The design is too good to mess it up and I think the price too high to use it as an experimental box.
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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.

My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.

That's all nice, but i guess that are things most of us are doing with kbdfans cases.

The design is too good to mess it up and I think the price too high to use it as an experimental box.

so, as hhkbp2 and pixelpusher mentioned. when using top mounted, the PCB won't touch the standoffs, it will be slightly higher than tray mounted. the hollow space for battery is actually not so big, it won't affect the sound of the case when we typing on it.

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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.

My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.

That's all nice, but i guess that are things most of us are doing with kbdfans cases.

The design is too good to mess it up and I think the price too high to use it as an experimental box.

so, as hhkbp2 and pixelpusher mentioned. when using top mounted, the PCB won't touch the standoffs, it will be slightly higher than tray mounted. the hollow space for battery is actually not so big, it won't affect the sound of the case when we typing on it.


Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification!  :thumb:

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Can we get a MAO finish for off-white?

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Can we get a MAO finish for off-white?

On the PCB?

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Can we get a MAO finish for off-white?

Do you mean for the case?

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For the case.

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At first I thought an off white would be cool, but now, I want red, green, or, blue.

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For the case.

The white is ALF's Pearl White color. I will share some pictures soon.

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I can't wait to see it. :cool:

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What are examples of 60percent boards that would fit the case? Any hotswappable 60percent pcbs that would definitely fit the case?

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 21 September 2018, 13:51:26 »
Is there anywhere to see all the possible layouts?

The current plan is to allow layouts similar to XD60, Scott shared this layout image with me. We will update when the new PCB comes in!

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Swiss cheese plate :(

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What are examples of 60percent boards that would fit the case? Any hotswappable 60percent pcbs that would definitely fit the case?

Will check with Scott about hotswapping!

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Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount  :(

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Damn! That looks solid as a tank.

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Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount  :(

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what do you mean only tray mount? no plate?

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Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount  :(

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what do you mean only tray mount? no plate?

Pare, i mean only since the first proto run was tray mount only. The current version on IC now is a hybrid that supports tray mount as well as top mount  :D
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just built mine today  :D

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Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount  :(

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Wow you got your hands on the V1 G60! Only a handful were made in the private GB.

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Really cool board, not sure if I need something new right now, but if there is a partial plate option I might not be able to resist
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PCB prototype is being made now.

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prototype production has started!

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Really hope the new PCB supports split space. I really feel like this board could be ideal for it in terms of the smaller form factor and use of additional layers

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Really hope the new PCB supports split space. I really feel like this board could be ideal for it in terms of the smaller form factor and use of additional layers

It supports almost any 60% pcbs.
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probs still in ;)

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Slightly OT, but is there any chance this will ever be done in a 75%/84-key version?

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I'm so stoked for this!!

60% + arrows + ISO  ;D

Will there be an option for OG beige in the future?
Waiting for GMK Miami Dolch ISO . . .

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Is there an approx. Price?

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Is there an approx. Price?

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After the whole prototype is done I think we should be able to give an estimate. Just to give you a reference, the earlier China private GB for the tray mount version was around $250. Unfortunately, the CNC machine time for all the shapes doubles that of making a Doro67, so this kit likely end up between $250 and $300.

Scott will take some videos to show the meticulously crafted shapes for this one.

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A must have for me.
Are Hot-swap pcb-s compatible also? Kalih Hot-swap, or holties?

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so into this. This is my endgame case!

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so into this. This is my endgame case!
This is the endgame for me also, although I know there is no such a thing as an endgame. Can't wait for the GB.

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Image Gallery for R1 version, R2 will be much improved!!

Prototype done soon.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/5825

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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 03:00:15 »
Looking good! Love the retro inspiration from the Cherry boards. Hopefully they are built much more sturdy than those though. lol

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arrgh, can't wait for this to get it in my hands
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Image Gallery for R1 version, R2 will be much improved!!

Prototype done soon.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 00:04:49 »
Looking good! Love the retro inspiration from the Cherry boards. Hopefully they are built much more sturdy than those though. lol

Definitely more creative ways to play with it!

R2 Prototype coming soon!

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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 01:37:35 »
Any price estimate?

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Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options

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I am in for sure!

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Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Quick question, No chance for universal plate option in the poll? or is it because of that current config only support a ANSI only pcb? 

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Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Quick question, No chance for universal plate option in the poll? or is it because of that current config only support a ANSI only pcb?

Hey, you can always use any GH60 compatible plate (and PCB) in the tray mount position. This poll is specifically for the top mount plate. Scott said he wanted to cut the top mount plate as little as possible, but at the same time providing some layout flexibility.

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Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.

Offline RETURNISO

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Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Quick question, No chance for universal plate option in the poll? or is it because of that current config only support a ANSI only pcb?

Hey, you can always use any GH60 compatible plate (and PCB) in the tray mount position. This poll is specifically for the top mount plate. Scott said he wanted to cut the top mount plate as little as possible, but at the same time providing some layout flexibility.

Cool, i understand.  i just asked because i would love a thicker plate ( universal ) and the 4mm from the poll just sounded like a treat. :) but as it ANSI only for top mount. no worries i look forward to see the new samples mentioned. Looking forward to the GB!  :thumb:

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Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.

+1 for ISO topmount  :thumb:

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HHKB?

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Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.

+1 for ISO topmount  :thumb:

ISO should be relatively easy to accommodate IMO, I will confirm with Scott on the top mount plate :)

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Hey everyone, please kindly Fill out the NEW POLL about thick plates and layout options


Would love an ISO option for the plate aswell.

+1 for ISO topmount  :thumb:

ISO should be relatively easy to accommodate IMO, I will confirm with Scott on the top mount plate :)

SWEET! Thanks oldcat

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Current poll results for the material and layout

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There is also a possibility for a 2mm Carbon Fiber (with switch clip cuts), for which we gauge interest in the Discord.

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What are the 10 colors that will be available?

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just built mine today  :D

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Could we get a side view of the SA caps with the case?

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just built mine today  :D

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Could we get a side view of the SA caps with the case?

I will ask Scott to take some pictures

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just built mine today  :D

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Could we get a side view of the SA caps with the case?

SA Obilivion on G60

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the extend kits, contains mini type-c plug and receptacle. they can be cross-connected, which means PCB with mini receptacle can be extended to a type-c one, and vice versa.

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the extend kits, contains mini type-c plug and receptacle. they can be cross-connected, which means PCB with mini receptacle can be extended to a type-c one, and vice versa.

Dope!

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How is it going with the prototype?, looking forward :cool:

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How is it going with the prototype?, looking forward :cool:

it was a little delayed, maybe one or two weeks later, ALF's machines are running day and night.

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Very interested if hot swappable keyswitches are a feature!
Model M Industrial, SSK, Unicomp 104, Code TKL MX Green, FC660M MX Green + Clear + White + Grey, FC660C Topre 45g, MagicForce 68 USB and Bluetooth, Whitefox, some optical switch 65% Bluetooth split spacebar thing ... wait, I think I need an intervention. Too late, there’s a couple of new Model Fs on the way.
Too much SA is never enough.

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Very interested if hot swappable keyswitches are a feature!

Well, all MX styled "keyswitches" are hot swappable ^-^ what you are wishing for is a hot swappable enabled PCBA.  :p

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custom FPC cable between the PCB and the extend receptacle

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cool

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Still waiting for the prototype of the new case, sorry for the delay. Here are some new photos, Hope you will like it. The firmware is optimized for power saving, the current is around 6.5ma when typing and 2ma standing by. which means over 400 hours battery life-time with a 1000mah one.







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I've been keeping an eye on this board. It looks very promising? You mention that the board is QMK-based but also has a very long battery life. From what I've heard, QMK boards don't really have a long battery life due to the way polling is done (but I'm not sure). How do you manage to do this? 

Also, if this board supports split spacebar as well as 2u shift, it may very well be my next keyboard!

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I've been keeping an eye on this board. It looks very promising? You mention that the board is QMK-based but also has a very long battery life. From what I've heard, QMK boards don't really have a long battery life due to the way polling is done (but I'm not sure). How do you manage to do this? 

Also, if this board supports split spacebar as well as 2u shift, it may very well be my next keyboard!

Actually, it's not about the QMK itself, it's about tunning an AVR MCU(most of the custom keyboard use this kind of chips), by shutting down unnecessary module, we can almost cut down half of the power consumes. I wrote a custom main loop and matrix scan function for further power saving. Yang, who made YD60BLE created this precedent, his TMK based firmware consumes just 1.7ma standing by, I'm following his path and trying to keep up.

BTW, Splited spacebar and 2u shift are dropped for sure on G60, Sorry for that. But I would like to release this PCB separated later, it could be a much compatible version. and... Are we just forget this is a compatible case for any GH60-like PCB?
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Love what you are doing with the usb adapter boards here. If the connector fails, you can just replace it separately from the existing pcb. For the right price, I'm really interested in this for my first 60 build.

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Is there any chance of releasing a separate Bluetooth kit for existing qmk compatible PCBs?

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Is there any chance of releasing a separate Bluetooth kit for existing qmk compatible PCBs?

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@Scottwei may be able to answer

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Since I'm asking questions, what about a G65? ;) thanks...

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Is there any chance of releasing a separate Bluetooth kit for existing qmk compatible PCBs?

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It's possible, But lack of operational for most PCB. Most of the PCB doesn't have extra pinout of power supply and I/Os.

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Since I'm asking questions, what about a G65? ;) thanks...

Planned and definitely would make it happen.

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What do you guys think about this colorway? We might do another proto based on this colorway if you guys are interested!

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What do you guys think about this colorway? We might do another proto based on this colorway if you guys are interested!

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OMG yes please! I've always loved the industrial grey color of the NCR boards.

I would definitely pick that colorway if it becomes an option.

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That would be amazing.

Offline scottwei

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I preliminary decided these are all possible layouts, I dropped some rarely used and 2u LShift layouts, keeping the most common ones.  and the layout compatibility for the 4mm thick plate has been limited, we split it into two main kinds, ANSI and ISO, we do maintain some compatibility on row 5, RShift and the Backspace.
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I preliminary decided these are all possible layouts, I dropped some rarely used and 2u LShift layouts, keeping the most common ones.  and the layout compatibility for the 4mm thick plate has been limited, we split it into two main kinds, ANSI and ISO, we do maintain some compatibility on row 5, RShift and the Backspace.
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I support this

Any chance you'd release plate files?

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New prototype

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
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Interested. So it is a hybrid mounting system? Top-mount plate AND tray mount poles?

Yes :)

And plus, it's compatible with regular PCB, plus dual mode QMK-based PCB.
But we can also use regular 60% plates? Or are special plates needed?

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I'll take it if the option exists where hhkb blockers are integrated with the case

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The test ano looks good but seems way too dark compared to the OG NCR combo

Offline lac29

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Is this the first QMK bluetooth custom keeb? I'm not into the particular design of this one but I'm hoping this QMK bluetooth tech is seen in more customs (Noxary polycarb 60%/65% for ex).

Offline RETURNISO

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The test ano looks good but seems way too dark compared to the OG NCR combo

Properly MAO And Grey showcased maybe? what do you say OP?

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The test ano looks good but seems way too dark compared to the OG NCR combo

Properly MAO And Grey showcased maybe? what do you say OP?

I think Scott wanted to achieve something similar to NCR colorway

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ALF is trying out new color swatches, (Camping) Green and NCR Grey :thumb:

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more color samples

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Wow.  Beautiful.  Looking forward to the GB!

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I love the themed colors, like NCR and Dolch  ;D

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Very interested. Especially the navy blue colour

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Very interested. Especially the navy blue colour

Er... where’s the navy one?

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Any conclusion yet what all the 10 colors will be?

Really looking forward to it, I know scott have done amazing work on the pcb and plates and not to mention the design features.  :thumb:

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http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/11521

I updated some pictures in this post.

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http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/11521

I updated some pictures in this post.

Waiting for the GB to start...

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Will this accept gh60 PCBs or have universal mounting positions?

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Will this accept gh60 PCBs or have universal mounting positions?

5. Compatible with both Top Mount and standard GH60 style tray mount
6. Compatible with most PCBs based on GH60 (via an included FPC extension kit)

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Any conclusion yet what all the 10 colors will be?

Really looking forward to it, I know scott have done amazing work on the pcb and plates and not to mention the design features.  :thumb:

the color plan changed, I introduced new two-tone colorways.

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Also the colors on this look really good in general, really like the NCR theme.
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super stoked for this

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<edited as not to sidetrack thread>

Also the colors on this look really good in general, really like the NCR theme.

NCR is my favorite, that retro feel

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<edited as not to sidetrack thread>

Also the colors on this look really good in general, really like the NCR theme.

NCR is my favorite, that retro feel

any chance of seeing some OG cherry dyesubs or GMK 9009 on the NCR themed board?  Just not a fan of how it looks with dolch, but I think I might like the color with another set.

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<edited as not to sidetrack thread>

Also the colors on this look really good in general, really like the NCR theme.

NCR is my favorite, that retro feel

any chance of seeing some OG cherry dyesubs or GMK 9009 on the NCR themed board?  Just not a fan of how it looks with dolch, but I think I might like the color with another set.

+1 on this, feel the same way

Offline BserLarry

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Hi I’m new to this hobby,
Would this work w a KBD6X PCB?

This is my first time DIY-ing, and this is the shop list I have:
White G60 HHKB (buy from GB)
HHKB plate (buy from GB)
KBD6X Hot swap PCB (bought)
1x7U + 2x2U Stabilizers (bought)
JTK Yolch (getting the extras)
Holy Panda switches (bought)

Trying to learn as much from these technical terms, would be much glad if someone can confirm I’m on the right track:-)
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Coming soon, in a day or two

GB form is in beta-testing in ALF discord.

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Coming soon, in a day or two

GB form is in beta-testing in ALF discord.

Excited.

How many days will it run, if you don't mind me asking.

Offline tanega

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Will there be an option to get a custom plate design? I feel it would be an awesome case for a Boardwalk.

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<edited as not to sidetrack thread>

Also the colors on this look really good in general, really like the NCR theme.

NCR is my favorite, that retro feel

any chance of seeing some OG cherry dyesubs or GMK 9009 on the NCR themed board?  Just not a fan of how it looks with dolch, but I think I might like the color with another set.

I'll try this later

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Coming soon, in a day or two

GB form is in beta-testing in ALF discord.

Excited.

How many days will it run, if you don't mind me asking.

Till end of Jan

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Take my money!

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Guys, Scott posted a GB at Geekhack and it is legit.

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