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Offline happylacquer

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Can you put PBT MX caps on a Kinesis Advantage?
« on: Mon, 06 February 2017, 03:00:27 »
I ask because I have a DOOM cap I love more than anything, and I get my Advantage2 in under 12 hours! I guess i will find out soon enough, but it seems like they are highly specialized caps on the Advantage despite using MX switches.

I would like to put it in one of the main key wells but I will put it where the Windows key if those don't work. Then, the problem will be trying to find a matching artisan to balance it where the Alt is. Hmmmm.

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Re: Can you put artisans on a Kinesis Advantage?
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 06 February 2017, 12:13:32 »
FWIW, the keycaps on Advantage are all comprised of standard profiles.  The artisan will fit somewhere, but I have a feeling it'll likely be problematic on bottom corners of the key wells.
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Re: Can you put artisans on a Kinesis Advantage?
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 06 February 2017, 13:49:56 »
Quote from: Salt Peanuts on Mon, 06 February 2017, 12:13:32
FWIW, the keycaps on Advantage are all comprised of standard profiles.  The artisan will fit somewhere, but I have a feeling it'll likely be problematic on bottom corners of the key wells.

Thanks! i'm typing on it right now. I was just comparing some of the main keys to some Leopold PBT's I have around.... as neat as this board is it's really a shame PBT isn't a keycap option.
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Re: Can you put artisans on a Kinesis Advantage?
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 06 February 2017, 14:54:21 »
Yes.

But it's kind of annoying and not really worth it.
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Re: Can you put artisans on a Kinesis Advantage?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 06 February 2017, 17:58:28 »
Quote from: happylacquer on Mon, 06 February 2017, 13:49:56
Quote from: Salt Peanuts on Mon, 06 February 2017, 12:13:32
FWIW, the keycaps on Advantage are all comprised of standard profiles.  The artisan will fit somewhere, but I have a feeling it'll likely be problematic on bottom corners of the key wells.

Thanks! i'm typing on it right now. I was just comparing some of the main keys to some Leopold PBT's I have around.... as neat as this board is it's really a shame PBT isn't a keycap option.

I've got PBT caps on two of my three Kinesis boards, in setup pretty close to the stock. It was bit of a pain, though.
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Re: Can you put artisans on a Kinesis Advantage?
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 02:44:21 »
Quote from: Salt Peanuts on Mon, 06 February 2017, 17:58:28
Quote from: happylacquer on Mon, 06 February 2017, 13:49:56
Quote from: Salt Peanuts on Mon, 06 February 2017, 12:13:32
FWIW, the keycaps on Advantage are all comprised of standard profiles.  The artisan will fit somewhere, but I have a feeling it'll likely be problematic on bottom corners of the key wells.

Thanks! i'm typing on it right now. I was just comparing some of the main keys to some Leopold PBT's I have around.... as neat as this board is it's really a shame PBT isn't a keycap option.

I've got PBT caps on two of my three Kinesis boards, in setup pretty close to the stock. It was bit of a pain, though.

 :eek:

I would love to see pics! My PBTs are only white though...

I am also strongly considering replacing the switches all with clears or maybe something heavier...



edit: Got two birds stoned at once!

yeah that space key shine is killin me...  :-X
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Offline Salt Peanuts

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Re: Can you put artisans on a Kinesis Advantage?
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 11:31:59 »
Quote from: happylacquer on Tue, 07 February 2017, 02:44:21
I would love to see pics! My PBTs are only white though...

I am also strongly considering replacing the switches all with clears or maybe something heavier...

Here you go.




I've also got a white Classic that I haven't done any mods.  The keycaps are combination of PBT DCS (the gray modifier keys), DSA Homing Dish and SA (Ctrl/Alt keys) from PMK, and Gateron PBT blank sets.  Bit of a pain as you need two Gateron sets for each board, thanks to needing two NumPad Enters and NumPad 0's for the thumb clusters.  You end up with a pile of leftovers.

I'll be replacing the switches on my boards with Jailhouse Blues in few days.
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Re: Can you put artisans on a Kinesis Advantage?
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 15:42:42 »
^^^^ Really thank you so much for those, they are inspiring! I might not get more crappy ABS keys after all. :thumb:

What do the two 30mm buttons do?

Only thing i'm wondering is how you got enough 2u keys?
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Re: Can you put PBT MX caps on a Kinesis Advantage?
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 16:40:14 »
On Adv2, the left button is programmed as a momentary keypad shift button.  On Adv1, which is running a TMK via adapter, it is programmed as a layer shift button.  The right button is programmed as a shift key in both boards.  Both buttons function as any other key on the board so they are fully programmable through the on-board programming.

As for having enough 2u keys, for each board, you need two full (104+ keys) sets of keys caps.  Two each of numpad enter (for Backspace and Space) and numpad 0 (for Enter and Delete) keycaps are needed for the thumb clusters.  Unless, of course, you can source extra numpad keycaps - I had no luck, at least not in decent quality blank ones.
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Re: Can you put PBT MX caps on a Kinesis Advantage?
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 18:17:17 »
Quote from: Salt Peanuts on Tue, 07 February 2017, 16:40:14
On Adv2, the left button is programmed as a momentary keypad shift button.  On Adv1, which is running a TMK via adapter, it is programmed as a layer shift button.  The right button is programmed as a shift key in both boards.  Both buttons function as any other key on the board so they are fully programmable through the on-board programming.

As for having enough 2u keys, for each board, you need two full (104+ keys) sets of keys caps.  Two each of numpad enter (for Backspace and Space) and numpad 0 (for Enter and Delete) keycaps are needed for the thumb clusters.  Unless, of course, you can source extra numpad keycaps - I had no luck, at least not in decent quality blank ones.
 

Thank you! great to know.

I just loaded mine up with some spare 2u's from a rainbow set for the 4 thumb keys and put my old Corsair caps with the grey WASD and arrow keys on. Looks much nicer on this than the board it came from but I dropped the L key on the ground and still  need to find it.... so there is a Home button where L should be.....
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