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WARNING,  by following this guide, you may type too fast and break your keyboard..

Tp4 is not responsible for broken keyboard due to Extreme Speed..


Feel Free to PM me or post in this thread, if you need clarification on how to initialize any key-elements written berow.

Also, if you have any tips or tricks not described here or in-addition to what is here, post and I will add and credit.


Basic:


-Keep your hands WARM-

--- Greatly limbers up movement


-Cut your nails very carefully.-

--- Exposed finger tips help you feel the vibrations and help you control timing.

--- Remove the nail close to the hyponychium, but do not cut any further..

--- This can be better achieved with a nail-file,  however unless you got a recital coming, it's not really necessary... just clip it with due-diligence.


-Floating is a myth-.

--- You'll hear some noobies telling you to hover your keystroke around 2mm.. This act will slow you down significantly, and also requires an extra level of restraint-control while offering no benefit..

--- always hit the bottom of the keystroke, no mercy..


-Right Space-

--- Only use your right thumb for the space bar

--- The reason behind this is that the left hand letters (on qwerty) is used significantly more in english words.. allocation of the space bar to the-right-thumb balances the total key-load more evenly between fingers


Moderate:


-Finger Home position-

--- The fingers DO NOT rest naturally on asdfjkl;,  it actually rests naturally on awefjio;

--- So the default home position should instead be a-w-e-f-j-i-o-;

--- A typical misunderstanding of the Home position is that the finger must return to home position after every key strike..   This is certainly NOT correct.. The fingers can stay as close or as far away from the home-position as Necessary to Facilitate successive keystrokes.


-Rhythm Emotion-

--- Recognize that speed-typing does NOT employ perfectly-even rhythm

--- If you take any string of text, the Character output per second is not constant.  You can force yourself to make it constant.. but this will cause you to lose speed.


-Rebound control-

--- Apply maximum acceleration on downstroke, but DO NOT HOLD!!

--- The duration of applied force should end right before the bottom of the keystroke.. this will prevent Holding, which is useless and will conflict with the natural rebound of the extreme-strike force ---

--- Applied force should be explosive and definitive, but very very short in duration..

--- It's exactly like playing the drums..  watch this video on the rebound stroke..
---

--- --- From your wrist and on is the drum stick, and your wrist joint is the fulcrum..     


-Grip Space-

--- On a normal space bar, MX or Topre, they are reversible. you can turn it 180 degrees

--- Doing so will allow you to use what's known as the Grip-space technique.

--- Instead of lifting your thumb or hand to hit the space bar, you merely grip your thumb and flick it upwards. Since the space bar is now sloped away from you it will meet your grip motion perfectly. 

--- This is a huge time saver when you consider how often the space bar is required, and it is also more Ergonomic to use space this way..

--- --- This technique is not applicable to all keyboards, where the space bar is not-reversible


-Keytimacy-

Many people are afraid of their keyboards, there's this paper thin psychological barrier where they believe hitting the wrong key will make their computer blow up. Even if they know this is not true, there may still be a lingering impression inherited from when they were beginners...

So, to intimate our connection with the machine.. Click onto a blank desktop and just TOUCH the keys.. Hit them one at a time, or all over, don't worry about breaking something.. You won't..

Really Smother those keys, really feel them depress under the hand.. get to know it.. feel the tension wash away. The years of holding back has finally come to an end.

weiwoipegpwaogh;wiye,bewojurowieujr3op28ruw23ioeurfw23i8pw2oi8fepw2,oi


Advanced:


-Freedom exercise-

Symptoms:

--- You might not be used to moving certain fingers independently of each other.. For example, babies and young children tend to grab at things with their entire hand..

--- Some of ya'll might type with your pinky and ring finger in the air, afraid that they'll hit the keys beneath.------ THEY WON'T, the key's spring force is enough to hold the weight of your fingers laid across them.. and if you hit the wrong key, electricity will not shoot out of the keyboard and kill you.. not before skynet anyway.. <i mention this because part of the tense-finger-reservation is psychological>

--- To practice finger-freedom.. relax you entire hand.. raise the ONE necessary finger and control JUST that finger to hit the intended key.. without any motion or twitching in any of the other fingers. You have to make it a point to control this finger independently, it may be a completely new skill for some when it involves the middle-ring-and pinky..

--- you can also practice transition patterns independent of letters..

--- on a flat space, wrist touching, tap the pinky then ring then middle.. etc you can make your own exercise, the key takeaway is to move all those fingers as independently of the others as possible..


-Wrist Rolls:-

--- example 1, typing " aced ".. 

--- --- You don't lift your fingers for both "a" and "c"  you keep your pinky and pointer finger at about the same height, and Roll your wrist from the outside-in.

--- Rolling " a " into " c "


--- example 2, typing " point "..   

--- Roll all of " p " " o " " i " "n"  in one motion from outside in.


-Glissando-

--- Glissando on a computer keyboard can only go from top down in a column fashion.. but it's a good tool to have when you're pushing the absolute limit..

--- It requires hitting two or three keys with the middle-of-the-last-segment of the finger rather than the tip of the finger.. so for words that end in -ed- or -ik- or -ol-, etc...

--- --- You glide from the top key down to the bottom key in a single motion rather than picking up your finger to hit the two keys separately.


-Burst Memory-

Most people are familiar with the concept of Muscle-memory..

People who can touch-type, essentially have motion-guided-memory of where each individual key is..

--- Burst-Memory works in the same way.. except it gets over certain latency-timing hurdles..


--- For example.. the word "Compendium",  If you don't know how to spell it and have to parse it out..  Com,  Pen,  Dium..   That is quite slow, essentially you're feeling out what is 3 separate words with small gaps in between..

But, what if you have muscle-memory of the entire word..   This creates 2 separate speedups.. 

--- Speed up 1 is through lowering the latency between each key transitions, if periods represented slight delay, it would be like this.

-- No muscle memory of entire word

c.. o.. m.... p.. e.. n.... d.. i.. u.. m..

-- With memory of entire word

c. o. m. p. e. n. d. i. u. m..

--- Speed up 2 is Reliability..  muscle memory of the entire word is far more reliable than parsing from 3 separate compositions..

xxx..  xxx.. xxxx..   Each of these will be a point of failure..

Complete memory--  xxxxxxxxxx..   Reduced points of failure.. and reduced potential correction time = speed up..


Advanced +


-EX Glissando..-

This should only be attempted by highly experienced typists. and even then, it's not very useful.

Here you're flicking upwards in the column using your nail.. obviously this will only be faster if the flick happens after a letter typed by the opposite hand

For example " adjudicate ", you type "a" "d" with the left hand, before you complete "d",  buffer-curl your right-pointer-finger above "j" ..  Once you completed d, flick down-upwards with your pointer-finger from "j" to "u" 

again.. VERY niche, but real technique..


-Custom layout-

--- things such as modifying placement of Right shift..   Under normal circumstances you should only use the Left-Shift.. the Right shift is too far to reach and requires a huge wrist turn if you don't lift your hand.. Both motions are time consuming.. So stick with the Left-shift unless you decide to custom-map.


-Ergonomic considerations-

--- the more refined your layout and ergonomic situation becomes, the more you'll be able to practice without tiring or getting hindered by RSI (repetitive stress injury)..

--- It's a self-fulfilling prophecy in becoming faster..

--- Consider getting an ergodox, or that new budget ergodox from HongKong..


-General weight lifting..-

Core and upper-body mainly..

This helps improve muscle control, and adds stability to the base of your body, of which to type is to push against..

I've yet to find a need for LEG-work when it comes to typing .. but it may give you more lower mass for increased leverage.


Happy Typing !


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Re: Compendium of Speed-Tips.. GH scrubs
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 11:40:10 »
Here's a photo, so ya'll don't think I'm a nutter who's making it all up..


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Re: Compendium of Speed-Tips.. GH scrubs
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:37:06 »
Well, this is, comprehensive...
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Re: Compendium of Speed-Tips.. GH scrubs
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:38:53 »
Well, this is, comprehensive...

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Re: Compendium of Speed-Tips.. GH scrubs
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 16:51:51 »
Well, this is, comprehensive...

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Re: Compendium of Speed-Tips.. GH scrubs
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Re: Compendium of Speed-Tips.. GH scrubs
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:26:08 »
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"Burst Memory"

So most people are probably familiar with the concept of Muscle-memory..

People who can touch-type, essentially have motion-guided-memory of where each individual key is..

Burst-Memory works in the same way.. except it gets over certain latency-timing hurdles..


For example.. the word "Compendium",  If you don't know how to spell it and have to parse it out  Com,  Pen,  Dium..   That is quite slow, essentially you're feeling out what is 3 separate words with small gaps in between..

But, what if you have muscle-memory of the entire word..   This creates 2 separate speedups.. 

--- Speed up 1 is lowering the latency between each key transitions, if periods represented slight delay, it would be like this.

-- No muscle memory of entire word
c.. o.. m.... p.. e.. n.... d.. i.. u.. m..

-- With memory of entire word

c. o. m. p. e. n. d. i. u. m..

--- Speed up 2

Reliability..  muscle memory of the entire word is far more reliable than parsing from 3 separate compositions..

xxx..  xxx.. xxxx..   Each of these will be a point of failure..

xxxxxxxxxx..   Reduced points of failure.. reduced potential correction time = speed up..

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Re: Compendium of Speed-Tips.. GH scrubs
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Re: Compendium of Speed-Tips.. GH scrubs
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:32:52 »
TL;DR

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Re: Compendium of Speed-Tips.. GH scrubs
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 22 January 2015, 21:47:26 »
TL;DR

I get it.. Most people on GH are just in it for the shopping, and keyboards are overall an inexpensive -addition- to their compulsive --get-- addiction..

-- Shopping addiction isn't a bad thing.. I'm not saying that.. it's the sustenance of consumption-economics..

-- But one should realize that the shopping is rather an empty experience unless the items can be put to active use..

-- Notice the collector's dilemma, their job is never over, not because they need or even want the things they buy..  They're COMPELLED to feel that high whenever a new BOX shows up at their door..  Then it's over.. and the emptiness continues..

-- I am offering people the After-story of shopping..

-- Joey compulsively buys a mechanical keyboard.. He uses it, FINDS GOD through rigorous practice, Achieves transcendental programming ability.. Uses said powers for evil.. World Domination..

-- Meanwhile Tom has a **** ton of boxes in his house.. He can't type worth a damn.. he has not learned any new skills. Tom works at the same $10/hr job for the rest of his life converting it into more un-useful boxes..  Tom has bought many books too, but he's never read them..

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 23 January 2015, 05:46:42 »
I use my right index finger to hit my space bar
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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 23 January 2015, 08:26:46 »
I use my right index finger to hit my space bar

Ah... yes..  this is more common than you may think..  I used to go to the library in college to pick up girls.. and I've actually seen quite a few do this..

At the time, I posited that.... It might be associated with long nails, or nail painting regimen, because since they want to avoid damaging their paint-jobs, they don't want to scratch the side of their thumb..


In terms of Productivity.. we've here at GH established that true average output of pure bull****ting (Tp4's #6th most greatest skill..)  is around 35wpm of creative content..

So.. if you're only going to need 35wpm on average, that mild level of key-proficiency can tolerate quite many non-optimal input policies..


But I myself believe that 1,  if you're gonna be around a damn keyboard all the time anyway, WHY NOT at least move forward.. 

If you really just gave it a go,  you'd see that using a new finger for a new key can be acclimated quite-quickly...  Within an hour if you keep at it..

There was a time, a year or two back during my TKL dayz, where I was making 2-3 key placement changes per week..  And I was within target WPM within each week.. so..... just try it out for yourself...



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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 23 January 2015, 08:32:34 »
The real trick to increasing speed is ditching qwerty and using something efficient like dvorak.  ^-^
People in the 1980s, in general, were clearly just better than we are now in every measurable way.

The dumber the reason the more it must be done

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 23 January 2015, 08:51:52 »
The real trick to increasing speed is ditching qwerty and using something efficient like dvorak.  ^-^

Don't go there.. please Quinn.... LOL....

sigh...

The Dvorak improvements have not been rigorously tested.. I've got my hopes set on that new guy with his new key analysis thingie in ergonomics forum..


But overall.. Pushing WPM speed is like opening the Eight-Gates, in Naruto..


Gate of Opening 開門:  This is where the user develops basic muscle memory of keys.

Gate of Healing 休門: This is where the user learns adaptive pacing and fast corrections.

Gate of Life 生門: This is where the user begins to forget everything else and focus concentration on transcription and decoding the information in front of him.

Gate of Pain 傷門: this is where the user overcomes the slight mental discomfort when employing such intense focus..

Gate of Limit 杜門:  this is where the user overcomes all technical limits by initiating high level techniques from advanced and advanced +

Gate of View 景門:  I don't think I've achieved this myself, it is definitely beyond the 135wpm barrier... Linkbane has achieved this gate to my knowledge... if only ya'll didn't ban him... he could tell us about it.

Gate of Wonder 驚門: To my knowledge only about 10 people has achieved this.. Sean Wrona being one of them..

Gate of Death 死門: No one has died yet..  But it has been posited that 500WPM is possible when this final gate is breached... No one has done it.. if they have, they did not live to tell about it..  Some genius sacrificed himself in commitment or in err, we may never know..





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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 23 January 2015, 09:04:50 »
I'm pretty sure the only reason Dvorak increased my speed is I had to relearn to type so I did it correctly.
People in the 1980s, in general, were clearly just better than we are now in every measurable way.

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 23 January 2015, 09:07:41 »
I'm pretty sure the only reason Dvorak increased my speed is I had to relearn to type so I did it correctly.

I'm not against changing to dvorak at all..

My point is, we have to be slow and look at it objectively.. and not be hipster about it, where anything non-mainstream is COOL, let's all do that...


I too feel your speed-up is more due to the diligence you've put into relearning proper technique... Speed was your destiny, irrespective of layout..


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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 23 January 2015, 10:09:46 »
This is the most impressive article I have ever seen written by TP.

My estimate of his IQ has gone up by 30%.

 :p :thumb: :eek:
Most of the modding can be done on your own once you break through the psychological barriers.

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 23 January 2015, 10:14:43 »
This is the most impressive article I have ever seen written by TP.

My estimate of his IQ has gone up by 30%.

 :p :thumb: :eek:

I am usually not so literal in expression..

If you couldn't follow the stoic profundity of my typical demeanor, it is only your-competence that comes into question.


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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 11:27:06 »
Here's a photo, so ya'll don't think I'm a nutter who's making it all up..


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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 13:38:45 »
It's ok, I still think you're a nutter, even if you are not making anything up.
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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 14:17:44 »
Right now my biggest problem with speed is looking at the keys when I type. It's this horrible habit that I'm really struggling to break. At this point I believe my only solution is to go with a blank keyset making it a worthless effort.

I do notice that when I get a comfortable flow going without glancing at the keyboard my wpm increases by an average of 10 putting me up in the high 50 low 60 range.

I just did a quick typeracer and these are my results: 47 wpm / 92.5% Second try with less glancing: 57 wpm / 94.2%

I have a lot of habits to break if I plan on raising my speed and accuracy.

There are some things in here that I had not considered and plan on incorporating them into my half-hearted efforts.
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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 14:24:57 »

Right now my biggest problem with speed is looking at the keys when I type. It's this horrible habit that I'm really struggling to break. At this point I believe my only solution is to go with a blank keyset making it a worthless effort.

I do notice that when I get a comfortable flow going without glancing at the keyboard my wpm increases by an average of 10 putting me up in the high 50 low 60 range.

I just did a quick typeracer and these are my results: 47 wpm / 92.5% Second try with less glancing: 57 wpm / 94.2%

I have a lot of habits to break if I plan on raising my speed and accuracy.

There are some things in here that I had not considered and plan on incorporating them into my half-hearted efforts.
I don't even know when I stopped looking, but sometimes I will quickly glance down just to make sure still, even though in test I only miss 1 or 2 words when I do miss. I don't type in a conventional way,  but how do you type?

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 14:32:03 »
Right now my biggest problem with speed is looking at the keys when I type. It's this horrible habit that I'm really struggling to break. At this point I believe my only solution is to go with a blank keyset making it a worthless effort.

I do notice that when I get a comfortable flow going without glancing at the keyboard my wpm increases by an average of 10 putting me up in the high 50 low 60 range.

I just did a quick typeracer and these are my results: 47 wpm / 92.5% Second try with less glancing: 57 wpm / 94.2%

I have a lot of habits to break if I plan on raising my speed and accuracy.

There are some things in here that I had not considered and plan on incorporating them into my half-hearted efforts.
blank help a lot about the looking down habbits . You'll struggle at the begginnng but it's worth it.
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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 15:01:22 »

Right now my biggest problem with speed is looking at the keys when I type. It's this horrible habit that I'm really struggling to break. At this point I believe my only solution is to go with a blank keyset making it a worthless effort.

I do notice that when I get a comfortable flow going without glancing at the keyboard my wpm increases by an average of 10 putting me up in the high 50 low 60 range.

I just did a quick typeracer and these are my results: 47 wpm / 92.5% Second try with less glancing: 57 wpm / 94.2%

I have a lot of habits to break if I plan on raising my speed and accuracy.

There are some things in here that I had not considered and plan on incorporating them into my half-hearted efforts.
I don't even know when I stopped looking, but sometimes I will quickly glance down just to make sure still, even though in test I only miss 1 or 2 words when I do miss. I don't type in a conventional way,  but how do you type?

Thats a good question. I never really thought of my typing form or style. I think it would best be described as a mix of homerow and hunt and peck. That might be what causes me to look, losing my placement. As I'm typing this and paying attention to it I don't use my pinky or ring fingers. So I start in the home rown position and hunt and peck from there. I've been going about this so wrong for so long.

blank help a lot about the looking down habbits . You'll struggle at the begginnng but it's worth it.

Nice. I was looking at getting some blanks for my M from unicomp. Or I'll get soem from SP. Not sure yet but very soon.
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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 15:14:40 »
Right now my biggest problem with speed is looking at the keys when I type. It's this horrible habit that I'm really struggling to break. At this point I believe my only solution is to go with a blank keyset making it a worthless effort.
I've been thinking about doing this.
I started typing long before I realized that there was a 'correct' way to type so my fingers usually went all over the place. I've lately started to learn to touch type and even though I know where all the keys are it feels like my fingers don't so I look down at my keyboard way too often when typing. Maybe I'll get a blank keycap set some day.
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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 19:10:02 »
@ -FreeCopy-

Yes.. Blank keys are a Very good idea.. Because they prevent you from relying on the labels,  ontop of allowing you to VIEW you hands so you don't contort them into any uncomfortable position as you learn to touch type.


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« Reply #26 on: Sat, 24 January 2015, 21:14:00 »
I just tested myself and am horrified that my typing speed has slowed a lot. Admittedly this layout is less than 6 months old, but still, I'm not getting my speed in Qwerty anymore.
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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 25 January 2015, 06:05:22 »
I just tested myself and am horrified that my typing speed has slowed a lot. Admittedly this layout is less than 6 months old, but still, I'm not getting my speed in Qwerty anymore.

I was losing about 5% speed Per single key alteration back in the TKL days, when I was really feeling out where to put everything..

I went from 120 to ~95  after 5-6 key changes...  but it climbed back within 1.5 weeks with Active practice.. It also depends on the importance of a key you changed, for example if you changed " e " or " t "..  those would be pretty impactful vs " z " or " x ".

I'd imagine if you're just casually using the new layout day to day, it must take a bit longer to adapt.


I really think changing layouts is helpful, because it gets you to really think about why things are the way they are..   and to focus on the important things that matter, rather than merely playing barbie dress up like the other kids....


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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 25 January 2015, 06:51:51 »
In the end.. the keyboard's most grand form of existence is as an ethereal bridge between man and machine..    Each depression of the keys, evanescent.. Our transitory thoughts crashing into the web, carving canyons through the internet wasteland such that life may once again flourish..
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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 14:49:44 »
Hey tp4tissue,

Thanks for the write-up and passing on knowledge. Your ethos is truly a step above that of the typical lemmings in the keyboard arms race.

Do you have any citations or articles collected/bookmarked? Is there any worthwhile literature which helped you put together the compendium? I think the old typing guides on the web are generally good, but has there been anything particularly insightful for you? I'd like to research this in more detail.

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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 14:54:19 »
Don't forget.. don't have arthritis :(

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:22:12 »
Don't forget.. don't have arthritis :(


this is another discussion hahaha..

But,  eat less salt.. sleep timely.. do slow weight bearing workouts.. 

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« Reply #32 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 15:29:33 »
Hey tp4tissue,

Thanks for the write-up and passing on knowledge. Your ethos is truly a step above that of the typical lemmings in the keyboard arms race.

Do you have any citations or articles collected/bookmarked? Is there any worthwhile literature which helped you put together the compendium? I think the old typing guides on the web are generally good, but has there been anything particularly insightful for you? I'd like to research this in more detail.

Um...

I've adapted some of the knowledge from piano..  because the they're very similar..

For example, burst memory,  from playing things like flight of the bumble bee arrg. rachm.   you would practice and memorize long strings of very fast notes, and you need it to be familiar to the point that the long string felt like a _single_ motion..


as for sources,  I've only had my experience and discussions here on GH as reference outside of piano.. 


You might be able to find some books on stenography, that's the only other field out there where transcription speed is of-the-essence.

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« Reply #33 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:34:44 »
Don't forget.. don't have arthritis :(


this is another discussion hahaha..

But,  eat less salt.. sleep timely.. do slow weight bearing workouts.. 

Dat atuoimmune disorder!  Psoriatic Arthritis is great.

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« Reply #34 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:56:22 »
I was assuming that this was a thread about amphetamines.
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« Reply #35 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 16:59:56 »
I was assuming that this was a thread about amphetamines.


/strokes beard... 

I wouldn't deny the relevance in this case, since amphet would almost certainly make you temporarily perform better at typing..

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« Reply #36 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 17:16:49 »
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« Reply #38 on: Sun, 22 February 2015, 17:32:17 »
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« Reply #39 on: Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:10:58 »
This is.... pretty good, actually.

I have a couple things to point out, though. They're not against or for, just observations:

You should reduce the finger force a fair amount before bottom-out, like just before / after the tactile point / actuation point. Position is a derivative of velocity and velocity is a derivative of acceleration and acceleration is directly proportionate to force and mass. So you need to actually stop the force, to stop the acceleration and thus reduce the speed (the spring will help do this) before hitting the bottom out position.

I think you'll find that if you're applying the "rebound" stroke correctly you stop accelerating the finger pretty soon (before the actuation point) and let the momentum carry it through the stroke (and release the tension in the muscles so the finger is "loose"), so it's naturally slowed and rebounded by the switch mechanism. This is a good thing as it results in low shock and you're not applying force opposite to the rebound force. It also feels nice :)

The faster you type, the earlier you need to release the force, until you reach a speed where you've already stopped applying force before the tactile point. Interesting. I guess this is why switch type is largely irrelevent at really high speed. The rebound can feel different and thus you may still have a preference of a particular type, and you don't always type at such high speed, so switch type is still relevant overall, but at high speed... not so important. You don't rely on the tactility so much since you're aggressively assuming the switch will actuate. However, tactility can still help you type more accurately as it can act as a warning that a key has NOT registered if you've hit one a little too softly.
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« Reply #40 on: Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:23:31 »
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« Reply #41 on: Mon, 23 February 2015, 08:54:09 »
This is.... pretty good, actually.

I have a couple things to point out, though. They're not against or for, just observations:

You should reduce the finger force a fair amount before bottom-out, like just before / after the tactile point / actuation point. Position is a derivative of velocity and velocity is a derivative of acceleration and acceleration is directly proportionate to force and mass. So you need to actually stop the force, to stop the acceleration and thus reduce the speed (the spring will help do this) before hitting the bottom out position.

I think you'll find that if you're applying the "rebound" stroke correctly you stop accelerating the finger pretty soon (before the actuation point) and let the momentum carry it through the stroke (and release the tension in the muscles so the finger is "loose"), so it's naturally slowed and rebounded by the switch mechanism. This is a good thing as it results in low shock and you're not applying force opposite to the rebound force. It also feels nice :)

The faster you type, the earlier you need to release the force, until you reach a speed where you've already stopped applying force before the tactile point. Interesting. I guess this is why switch type is largely irrelevent at really high speed. The rebound can feel different and thus you may still have a preference of a particular type, and you don't always type at such high speed, so switch type is still relevant overall, but at high speed... not so important. You don't rely on the tactility so much since you're aggressively assuming the switch will actuate. However, tactility can still help you type more accurately as it can act as a warning that a key has NOT registered if you've hit one a little too softly.

Oobly.. beyond a certain speed..  you have NO SENSATION of anything around you.. The text in front of your eyes consumes your entire consciousness..

Watch the Sean Wrona Das keyboard video,  notice at the end of his typing run, he doesn't know what's going on, and his hands tremble a bit as he returns to reality..


This also happens at piano performances... so I know it first hand.

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« Reply #42 on: Thu, 12 March 2015, 12:38:27 »
Interesting read. The one thing I don't do and I'm not sure if I could ever make the switch is right hand space. I'm on an ergodox and have space on my left hand. I've used my left thumb for space my entire life. I never ever ever use my right thumb for space, even on regular boards. I have space and enter on the left cluster and backspace and enter on the right cluster.

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« Reply #43 on: Sat, 14 March 2015, 09:55:23 »
Interesting read. The one thing I don't do and I'm not sure if I could ever make the switch is right hand space. I'm on an ergodox and have space on my left hand. I've used my left thumb for space my entire life. I never ever ever use my right thumb for space, even on regular boards. I have space and enter on the left cluster and backspace and enter on the right cluster.

right hand space is easier to get used to than you think..

You'd get it within half an hour if you go slowly..

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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 04:34:30 »
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« Reply #45 on: Sun, 15 March 2015, 11:21:31 »
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« Reply #46 on: Mon, 16 March 2015, 02:21:28 »
This is.... pretty good, actually.

I have a couple things to point out, though. They're not against or for, just observations:

You should reduce the finger force a fair amount before bottom-out, like just before / after the tactile point / actuation point. Position is a derivative of velocity and velocity is a derivative of acceleration and acceleration is directly proportionate to force and mass. So you need to actually stop the force, to stop the acceleration and thus reduce the speed (the spring will help do this) before hitting the bottom out position.

I think you'll find that if you're applying the "rebound" stroke correctly you stop accelerating the finger pretty soon (before the actuation point) and let the momentum carry it through the stroke (and release the tension in the muscles so the finger is "loose"), so it's naturally slowed and rebounded by the switch mechanism. This is a good thing as it results in low shock and you're not applying force opposite to the rebound force. It also feels nice :)

The faster you type, the earlier you need to release the force, until you reach a speed where you've already stopped applying force before the tactile point. Interesting. I guess this is why switch type is largely irrelevent at really high speed. The rebound can feel different and thus you may still have a preference of a particular type, and you don't always type at such high speed, so switch type is still relevant overall, but at high speed... not so important. You don't rely on the tactility so much since you're aggressively assuming the switch will actuate. However, tactility can still help you type more accurately as it can act as a warning that a key has NOT registered if you've hit one a little too softly.

Oobly.. beyond a certain speed..  you have NO SENSATION of anything around you.. The text in front of your eyes consumes your entire consciousness..

Watch the Sean Wrona Das keyboard video,  notice at the end of his typing run, he doesn't know what's going on, and his hands tremble a bit as he returns to reality..


This also happens at piano performances... so I know it first hand.

Yup, everything moves to the subconscious level, but only if everything is familiar enough not to jar you out of this state, which is why I believe in giving your subconscious all the cues it needs to do this with less effort.

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« Reply #48 on: Wed, 20 January 2016, 17:57:07 »
I really like this guide acctually, I already do a lot of the suggestions subconsciously without realizing it, and i flipped my spacebar because its a lot easier on heavier switches like the clears in my board for me.

My issue though at the moment is building muscle memory, its a pretty slow process for me, even though i know where all the keys are, and i know there position in relation to where my fingers are, i have a hard time translating that from my brain to my hand, though clears have helped me with that and my accuracy, right now i'm at 50 WPM average.

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« Reply #49 on: Wed, 20 January 2016, 21:07:04 »
I really love this. It reassures some of my "bad" habits that I thought were wrong by reading some post around GH, for example, the one related with no bottoming down.

Thank you to the OP for sharing this.

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« Reply #50 on: Thu, 04 February 2016, 19:16:29 »
im going to say that this mania produced thread was actually a contribution by tp4 for once to the keyboard part of geekhack, as crazy as it is, so i will deduct 10 sins from tp4

i still want proof you own a ergodox, or even own a mechanical keyboard, i was drunk years back and looked into past posts by tp4 and i remember the only proof i found was you joined a feng group buy for some pbt set i think. i swear, whatever, make more of these and less bs posts.

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« Reply #51 on: Sat, 12 March 2016, 06:16:03 »
So what finger do I use for spacebar if I use dvorak layout?

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« Reply #52 on: Sat, 12 March 2016, 10:37:11 »
So what finger do I use for spacebar if I use dvorak layout?

technically if you count it up,  it's either one, because key load is about even between left and right..

HOWEVER,  in practice,  I'd still say -the right- because of where the shift key is on a regular keyboard.

On the regular keyboard, because all shifting is generally done on the left, due to the right shift being too far away, the only way to make up some time would be to add things to the right.

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« Reply #53 on: Sat, 12 March 2016, 13:40:51 »
There should be a type racer challenge on geekhack

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« Reply #54 on: Wed, 16 March 2016, 04:11:22 »
So what finger do I use for spacebar if I use dvorak layout?

technically if you count it up,  it's either one, because key load is about even between left and right..

HOWEVER,  in practice,  I'd still say -the right- because of where the shift key is on a regular keyboard.

On the regular keyboard, because all shifting is generally done on the left, due to the right shift being too far away, the only way to make up some time would be to add things to the right.
so that means I'm goin to use ergodox

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thanks for linking this boca! now I can 60wpm with comfort
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« Reply #56 on: Mon, 29 August 2016, 04:29:23 »
This is great.

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« Reply #57 on: Wed, 07 September 2016, 14:50:12 »
I just notice this one YouTuber with 170+ WPM -- he doesn't use his pinkies that much in the traditional touch type way. And it seems that he's not the only fast typists doing it.
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« Reply #58 on: Wed, 07 September 2016, 14:52:29 »
I just notice this one YouTuber with 170+ WPM -- he doesn't use his pinkies that much in the traditional touch type way. And it seems that he's not the only fast typists doing it.
What do you think?
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the accuracy is ****ing atrocious though
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« Reply #60 on: Wed, 07 September 2016, 17:35:40 »
I just notice this one YouTuber with 170+ WPM -- he doesn't use his pinkies that much in the traditional touch type way. And it seems that he's not the only fast typists doing it.
What do you think?

OVERALL,  when I use Q or P on standard qwerty,  I do not use my pinky for those keys, because they're easier to reach using  Ring finger.

As far as letter frequency goes,  - A - is the only common letter that would be affected by not using the Pinky on qwerty.

- P - on the right hand isn't that common,  so it should not affect speed much..



For me personally though, I've moved -P- to where my -:- colon sign is, because the colon is less common than a letter..


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« Reply #61 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 06:30:03 »
What if I need thumb fingernails for pushing Palm Centro buttons? Those are so small you need to use fingernails too.

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« Reply #62 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 07:07:39 »
I mean, i can type 120 wpm, but with great amounts of errors.

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« Reply #63 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 07:08:30 »
So what finger do I use for spacebar if I use dvorak layout?

Personally, for my qwerty layout, i use my right pointer finger.  I also use the right pointer finger to type sentences once in a while.

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« Reply #64 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 07:11:32 »
https://ibb.co/dmkW4m2

This is my typing speed over the years. I am noticing that myself, Sintpinty is getting faster but i don't want to reach a peak level for my typing speed.

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« Reply #65 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 07:12:22 »
the accuracy is ****ing atrocious though

We all get it.

Rip my accuracy too. Don't you run into some slowdowns too?

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 07:13:06 »
What if I need thumb fingernails for pushing Palm Centro buttons? Those are so small you need to use fingernails too.

The solution? I have no fingernails  :))
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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 18 May 2019, 07:15:38 »
To be honest, finding a good keyboard is what got me here anyways. Because i was a fast typist(am still today, but suffering from accuracy issues) , i needed a good quality keyboard that would be reliable and durable. I noticed people like Sifo and others were using mechanical keyboards when typing and they got extremely high scores.

I literally practiced every single day for four years in order to get the speed that i am today.
My highest , 123 wpm is not achieved on a mechanical keyboard, but rather a cheap dell keyboard.

I don't get as higher scores on Mechanical keyboards as much as Membrane keyboards simply because i am not used to the feel of typing on it.

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« Reply #68 on: Mon, 20 May 2019, 16:47:29 »
I always had a problem learning touch typing, but I will give it a try:)
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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 21 May 2019, 15:55:34 »
I always had a problem learning touch typing, but I will give it a try:)

I highly reccomend typingclub or freetypinggame.net

Even though it's for kids, it really helped me in my younger years :)

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #70 on: Thu, 23 May 2019, 14:04:02 »
Ok, for further proof, i got 123 wpm on my last typing test.

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 19 January 2020, 12:07:45 »
I have once typed 137 as my record

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« Reply #72 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 16:21:34 »
I have a new idea for compendium: Make sure you don't have RSI. If you have RSI, you can definitely make this problem even worse by typing at all, more with your suggestions.

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #73 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 13:24:08 »
due to this thread I will still work on improving my typing every evening (have been doing this for the past few months).    So far I can say working with lubed Gat Black Inks has aided in increase in my speed and accuracy (imo) could just be in my head but yeah I'll stick with it.

And the OP is a nut, but even nuts have good information from time to time, lol.

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #74 on: Tue, 12 May 2020, 11:09:33 »
141 reached as record. Finally satisfied.

Advanced needs to get better though. MX reds are wayyy too springy and i'll use them for gaming now. K63 has sh#t battery life too

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« Reply #75 on: Fri, 15 May 2020, 09:02:12 »
I used be able to type like holy hell back in the early message board era but it feels a bit odd to write page long screeds on social media where most people are responding on phones with bullet point thoughts. There aren't many opportunities for me to practice or even think in a long form manner these days, because you can't really type faster than you think, unless we're talking about transcribing.

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #76 on: Fri, 15 May 2020, 17:17:15 »
The real trick to increasing speed is ditching qwerty and using something efficient like dvorak.  ^-^

Don't go there.. please Quinn.... LOL....

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The Dvorak improvements have not been rigorously tested.. I've got my hopes set on that new guy with his new key analysis thingie in ergonomics forum..


But overall.. Pushing WPM speed is like opening the Eight-Gates, in Naruto..


Gate of Opening 開門:  This is where the user develops basic muscle memory of keys.

Gate of Healing 休門: This is where the user learns adaptive pacing and fast corrections.

Gate of Life 生門: This is where the user begins to forget everything else and focus concentration on transcription and decoding the information in front of him.

Gate of Pain 傷門: this is where the user overcomes the slight mental discomfort when employing such intense focus..

Gate of Limit 杜門:  this is where the user overcomes all technical limits by initiating high level techniques from advanced and advanced +

Gate of View 景門:  I don't think I've achieved this myself, it is definitely beyond the 135wpm barrier... Linkbane has achieved this gate to my knowledge... if only ya'll didn't ban him... he could tell us about it.

Gate of Wonder 驚門: To my knowledge only about 10 people has achieved this.. Sean Wrona being one of them..

Gate of Death 死門: No one has died yet..  But it has been posited that 500WPM is possible when this final gate is breached... No one has done it.. if they have, they did not live to tell about it..  Some genius sacrificed himself in commitment or in err, we may never know..


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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #77 on: Sun, 02 May 2021, 21:20:06 »
I know this is super old, and probably no one will reply, but I'm in a slump. I switched over to colemak about 4 months ago, and progress was really fast, and I am now typing at about 70 WPM on average. But that is where it stopped. I have been practicing rigorously throughout the last month and my WPM has changed by maybe 5? Is there any really big thing that you need to think about to "ascend" to the next level? Maybe the "Burst Memory" will help me. I too play the piano and I know what you mean by it, but I feel like sometimes my fingers just aren't confident about a word and then I make a typing error. I am in the process of building a mech, so maybe the tactility and/or clickiness will help, but I really don't know.
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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #78 on: Sun, 02 May 2021, 22:08:22 »
What are you typing on the measurement, and what was your speed before the change to colemk.

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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #79 on: Sun, 02 May 2021, 22:14:14 »
My speed before colemak was less, probably around 50-60 WPM though I never took a typing test. And I tried all sorts of membrane keyboards, from a chromebook to a lenovo laptop keyboard, but I have yet to type on a mechanical keyboard so far. I am building one though, so that might help.
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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #80 on: Sun, 02 May 2021, 22:34:38 »
My speed before colemak was less, probably around 50-60 WPM though I never took a typing test. And I tried all sorts of membrane keyboards, from a chromebook to a lenovo laptop keyboard, but I have yet to type on a mechanical keyboard so far. I am building one though, so that might help.

Lenovo butterfly is the easiest to time when it comes to typing speed/ repetition.  The mechanical won't impact your performance mechanically, but it may serve as psychological motivation to push you into the next lvl.

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« Reply #81 on: Sun, 02 May 2021, 22:53:09 »
Ok, so that's something, but I was wondering if there was some major thing that I am missing that will help get me to that 100 WPM mark(that is my goal for the next couple weeks or so).
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Re: Compendium of Speed (Learn to type at least 135wpm) Guaranteed-!!
« Reply #82 on: Sun, 02 May 2021, 23:01:19 »
Ok, so that's something, but I was wondering if there was some major thing that I am missing that will help get me to that 100 WPM mark(that is my goal for the next couple weeks or so).

Read the text, type it, don't try to comprehend it in any way, saves processing power, move faster.

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« Reply #83 on: Sun, 02 May 2021, 23:12:04 »
About that. I noticed that I am alot faster when I am writing the text out of my brain rather than trying to replicate text off of, let's say, a typing test. Could this have something to do with the fact that you have to read the text or is it just normal? Also, I know that there isn't much to say about technique here since I can't really describe the way that my fingers move when typing, but after reading your original post, I was slightly confused by the fact that typing isn't all a string of text but rather, has a rhythm. Can you describe how you would move your fingers to a rhythm when typing?
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« Reply #84 on: Sun, 02 May 2021, 23:24:59 »
About that. I noticed that I am alot faster when I am writing the text out of my brain rather than trying to replicate text off of, let's say, a typing test. Could this have something to do with the fact that you have to read the text or is it just normal? Also, I know that there isn't much to say about technique here since I can't really describe the way that my fingers move when typing, but after reading your original post, I was slightly confused by the fact that typing isn't all a string of text but rather, has a rhythm. Can you describe how you would move your fingers to a rhythm when typing?

i read a lot slower than my fingers can move, most of my mistakes are because i misread a word or inserted a word that wasn't actually there.

to the latter point try using a metronome while doing a test, just like practicing music or something, gradually increase the BPM starting from slow to fast. good way to practice rhythm typing. eventually it becoems second nature and you have an internal BPM that works for you. my preferred bpm is 173 for reference
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« Reply #85 on: Sun, 02 May 2021, 23:34:59 »
Ok, that metronome idea sounds like something that I might try out. Is there a way that you found out to combat this reading slower than you type issue or is it still in the works.
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« Reply #86 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 00:54:19 »
Is there a way that you found out to combat this reading slower than you type issue or is it still in the works.

don't think there's anything i can do to fix that other than to read more often which i don't really do
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« Reply #87 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 01:06:21 »
I don't think you could establish a fixed rhythm unless you're typing the same text each time.

If you reorder even a same set of words, it's a completely different rhythm because the transitions are different.

The use of the metronome in random text would have less to do with hand timing, and more to do with pacing your reading so you don't over/undershoot the synchronization window between hand / brain coordination.

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« Reply #88 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 01:07:18 »
I don't think you could establish a fixed rhythm unless you're typing the same text each time.
The use of the metronome in random text would have less to do with hand timing, and more to do with pacing your reading so you don't over/undershoot the synchronization window between hand / brain coordination.


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« Reply #89 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 08:59:44 »
I don't think you could establish a fixed rhythm unless you're typing the same text each time.

If you reorder even a same set of words, it's a completely different rhythm because the transitions are different.

The use of the metronome in random text would have less to do with hand timing, and more to do with pacing your reading so you don't over/undershoot the synchronization window between hand / brain coordination.


ok, that makes some sense
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« Reply #90 on: Mon, 03 May 2021, 09:02:13 »
Is there a way that you found out to combat this reading slower than you type issue or is it still in the works.

don't think there's anything i can do to fix that other than to read more often which i don't really do



Well I read quite a lot for a normal human being and the issue still persists, but I had an idea as to why and it was one of tp4's original answers to my query. Maybe I read the word, and I actually try to comprehend the word and then type it rather than just trying to type the word right off of the bat. Then, my fingers catch up to my eyes and I make an error.
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