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Title: red scarf III
Post by: 悬壶济世 on Sat, 03 January 2015, 06:03:21

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3817085419.77.YRhsVl&id=43280250305 (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3817085419.77.YRhsVl&id=43280250305)

http://www.enjoyclick.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=8528 (http://www.enjoyclick.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=8528)


(http://www.enjoyclick.org/data/attachment/forum/201501/03/114659cjvp7md8sfzz8p8q.jpg)
(http://www.enjoyclick.org/data/attachment/forum/201501/03/114651ybp7p1b7mr5kv8vh.jpg)
(http://www.enjoyclick.org/data/attachment/forum/201501/03/114644msjg45gg4gxv6zkk.jpg)
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: SL89 on Sat, 03 January 2015, 06:10:16
here i was all excited for a Red Scarf II, but it looks like that ship has sailed.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Coreda on Sat, 03 January 2015, 06:30:02
What are those prices on taobao.com? Surely it's not reflecting the actual price.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: twiddle on Sat, 03 January 2015, 06:33:31
Looks great. Any chance we can get some info on ways GHers could get their hands on the PCB at least, without having to get a proxy? I've been making my own cases recently, and this looks like it might be good for something to put the 1976 set on..
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 06:44:56
I would be down for one of these but how much is it? That can't be the real price.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: 悬壶济世 on Sat, 03 January 2015, 07:02:36
Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 06:44:56
I would be down for one of these but how much is it? That can't be the real price.
Not more than RMB 850
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: feizor on Sat, 03 January 2015, 07:05:06
It's 500RMB for the pcb, case bottom and RGB remote. Then another 180RMB for the case top (for the thick version) and another 150RMB for the plate.

That's 830RMB or around 134USD plus 10% tao bao agent fees plus maybe 30USD for delivery. All in all around 177USD delivered, less for the thinner case tops or no plate. Very good price for a custom! Similar layouts as the lightsaver.


Edit: add 20RMB or 3.3USD for case feet.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 10:12:47
Quote from: feizor on Sat, 03 January 2015, 07:05:06
It's 500RMB for the pcb, case bottom and RGB remote. Then another 180RMB for the case top (for the thick version) and another 150RMB for the plate.

That's 830RMB or around 134USD plus 10% tao bao agent fees plus maybe 30USD for delivery. All in all around 177USD delivered, less for the thinner case tops or no plate. Very good price for a custom! Similar layouts as the lightsaver.


Edit: add 20RMB or 3.3USD for case feet.

Hmm then I'm guessing i will need to buy switches as well.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 10:30:44
Is there anyone doing any proxy services here?
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 03 January 2015, 10:58:29
Quote from: feizor on Sat, 03 January 2015, 07:05:06
It's 500RMB for the pcb, case bottom and RGB remote. Then another 180RMB for the case top (for the thick version) and another 150RMB for the plate.

That's 830RMB or around 134USD plus 10% tao bao agent fees plus maybe 30USD for delivery. All in all around 177USD delivered, less for the thinner case tops or no plate. Very good price for a custom! Similar layouts as the lightsaver.


Edit: add 20RMB or 3.3USD for case feet.

I don't like customs because normally they are very expensive, but this looks ok for anyone looking for customs. I see nothing wrong with the price; it is extremely fair considering the small number being made.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: zennasyndroxx on Sat, 03 January 2015, 12:11:32
hu zhong shuai bi le.

this one is a good buy imo. too bad no fund cannot zhuangbi
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 03 January 2015, 12:23:00
Anyone have any experience with the Red Scarf PCBs and compatible firmware and GUI key programming?
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: byker on Sat, 03 January 2015, 12:28:13
Hmm I am quite tempted by this. Anyone  want to set up a mini-gb to lower the proxy costs?  :p
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: FrostyToast on Sat, 03 January 2015, 12:37:26
It's nice to have a cheaper option for a lightsaver layout keyboard.
Although it's a shame that this doesn't have ALPS support.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Chemisery on Sat, 03 January 2015, 12:55:19
To add on something, according to the description:

PCB+ RGB controller = 250 RMB
PCB+ RGB controller + White casing = 500 RMB


Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 13:01:06
Quote from: byker on Sat, 03 January 2015, 12:28:13
Hmm I am quite tempted by this. Anyone  want to set up a mini-gb to lower the proxy costs?  :p
I possibly would
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 15:22:41
What would be the best site to proxy this. I deffinetly want to jump on this before they are gone
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 03 January 2015, 16:09:36
Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 15:22:41
What would be the best site to proxy this. I deffinetly want to jump on this before they are gone
Yoybuy or TaoBaoFocus are good
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: feizor on Sat, 03 January 2015, 16:34:07
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sat, 03 January 2015, 16:09:36
Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 15:22:41
What would be the best site to proxy this. I deffinetly want to jump on this before they are gone
Yoybuy or TaoBaoFocus are good

I've had good experience with BuyChina.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: feizor on Sat, 03 January 2015, 16:38:36
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sat, 03 January 2015, 12:23:00
Anyone have any experience with the Red Scarf PCBs and compatible firmware and GUI key programming?

I have the RS60 PCB,  programing is similar to the Korean makers. You need to set a layout using a layout editor,  convert it to a hex file then flash.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 16:51:49
Would anyone be willing to go onto my taobaofocus and putting what i need into my cart? so confused at what exact parts i need.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 03 January 2015, 17:37:54
Quote from: Chemisery on Sat, 03 January 2015, 12:55:19
To add on something, according to the description:
  • 20 PCB for sale
  • 31 RGB LEDs added on the bottom of the PCB which can be controlled from both the keyboard or using the remote, thus the image at the OP
  • 4 LED modes, 3 types of length, 3 types of breathing patterns and increased in intensity as you type
  • Supports ISO layout

PCB+ RGB controller = 250 RMB
PCB+ RGB controller + White casing = 500 RMB
RMB ? Very interested if it supports ISO layout .
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 03 January 2015, 17:57:32
Quote from: azhdar on Sat, 03 January 2015, 17:37:54
Quote from: Chemisery on Sat, 03 January 2015, 12:55:19
To add on something, according to the description:
  • 20 PCB for sale
  • 31 RGB LEDs added on the bottom of the PCB which can be controlled from both the keyboard or using the remote, thus the image at the OP
  • 4 LED modes, 3 types of length, 3 types of breathing patterns and increased in intensity as you type
  • Supports ISO layout

PCB+ RGB controller = 250 RMB
PCB+ RGB controller + White casing = 500 RMB
RMB ? Very interested if it supports ISO layout .
It does support ISO

RMB is Renminbi, the currency of the People's Republic of China
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:24:11
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sat, 03 January 2015, 17:57:32
Quote from: azhdar on Sat, 03 January 2015, 17:37:54
Quote from: Chemisery on Sat, 03 January 2015, 12:55:19
To add on something, according to the description:
  • 20 PCB for sale
  • 31 RGB LEDs added on the bottom of the PCB which can be controlled from both the keyboard or using the remote, thus the image at the OP
  • 4 LED modes, 3 types of length, 3 types of breathing patterns and increased in intensity as you type
  • Supports ISO layout
PCB+ RGB controller = 250 RMB
PCB+ RGB controller + White casing = 500 RMB
RMB ? Very interested if it supports ISO layout .
It does support ISO

RMB is Renminbi, the currency of the People's Republic of China

500 RMB is like 70€ , you get "PCB+ RGB controller + White casing" for that price ??
Where do I order ?
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:28:06
I am trying to order but I am so confused trying to add the proper stuff to cart =(
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Sygaldry on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:38:04
Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:28:06
I am trying to order but I am so confused trying to add the proper stuff to cart =(
I can help you figure this out (get you links) once I get home. Currently on a flight from NYC to Chicago.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: cooldiscretion on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:59:45
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:38:04
Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:28:06
I am trying to order but I am so confused trying to add the proper stuff to cart =(
I can help you figure this out (get you links) once I get home. Currently on a flight from NYC to Chicago.

Sygaldry, always so helpful.  :thumb:
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 19:35:01
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:38:04
Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:28:06
I am trying to order but I am so confused trying to add the proper stuff to cart =(
I can help you figure this out (get you links) once I get home. Currently on a flight from NYC to Chicago.

Thank you!
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: berserkfan on Sat, 03 January 2015, 20:01:45
Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 19:35:01
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:38:04
Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:28:06
I am trying to order but I am so confused trying to add the proper stuff to cart =(
I can help you figure this out (get you links) once I get home. Currently on a flight from NYC to Chicago.

Thank you!

Just order the most expensive option. It gives you a complete set minus stabs and switches, if I am not mistaken (read quickly yesterday so reeling this off the top of my head.) Not as if it's so easy / convenient to order the other parts by yourself. If I were buying that's what I would do too, even though I have no difficulty reading.

Never give people access to your personal account. If you are not willing/ too afraid to add the products yourself, then go without. On my part, I am generally quite willing to help people (and have helped many geekhackers with Taobao searches), but something like this I will also decline and I would advise everyone not to enter Bromono's account too. If there's anything wrong with that account in future it'll be very awkward.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 21:03:55
Quote from: berserkfan on Sat, 03 January 2015, 20:01:45
Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 19:35:01
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:38:04
Quote from: Bromono on Sat, 03 January 2015, 18:28:06
I am trying to order but I am so confused trying to add the proper stuff to cart =(
I can help you figure this out (get you links) once I get home. Currently on a flight from NYC to Chicago.

Thank you!

Just order the most expensive option. It gives you a complete set minus stabs and switches, if I am not mistaken (read quickly yesterday so reeling this off the top of my head.) Not as if it's so easy / convenient to order the other parts by yourself. If I were buying that's what I would do too, even though I have no difficulty reading.

Never give people access to your personal account. If you are not willing/ too afraid to add the products yourself, then go without. On my part, I am generally quite willing to help people (and have helped many geekhackers with Taobao searches), but something like this I will also decline and I would advise everyone not to enter Bromono's account too. If there's anything wrong with that account in future it'll be very awkward.


Sorry, I was seeing as the account has no personal identification on it, I didn't see It being that harmful. But I see your concern and it will probably break some rules. I will order them myself and go for the most expensive but I'm sure there are other options I need to choose from. And it seems like there are other items to buy besides the stuff being sold specifically on that page. Google translate only goes so far.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Sat, 03 January 2015, 22:07:11
If a chinese speaker is willing to help me buy this pls pm me .
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Sygaldry on Sun, 04 January 2015, 00:27:09
For those of you looking to buy one of these for yourself, here are the parts you will need for a complete build:


Necessary Items:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3817085419.77.YRhsVl&id=43280250305
-The 500 RMB option includes the bottom case, PCB, and remote.
-I highly recommend opting for the higher priced option because it will be a pain finding a case to fit the PCB from other sources (unless you intend on building your own acrylic case).

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.4.eDPddB&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43280250305&pvid=2365b60b-d9b7-46c1-9ed3-4dd309ada7d2
-This is the topcase, available in three different thicknesses and multiple colors.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.6.eDPddB&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43280594282&pvid=2365b60b-d9b7-46c1-9ed3-4dd309ada7d2
-Here is the plate, which is semi-optional. I say semi-optional because the plate does not seem to support solder-less switch swapping. Some of you might prefer to go plate-less for maximum customizability.

Optional Items:

Stickers (available from many sources)
Lube (Krytox recommended, available from many sources)
LEDs (2x3x4 size, the NuclearSandwich GB has a couple interesting colors available; the more common colors are available almost anywhere - eBay, AliExpress, etc.)
Custom Springs (Sprit GB highly recommended)

For TaoBao agent, I have used TaoBaoFocus before and had no issues with them. I've also heard many good things about YoyBuy. Just plug in the links I listed above into their searches and add them to cart with the options you'd like.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: 悬壶济世 on Sun, 04 January 2015, 01:04:07
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sun, 04 January 2015, 00:27:09
For those of you looking to buy one of these for yourself, here are the parts you will need for a complete build:


Necessary Items:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3817085419.77.YRhsVl&id=43280250305
-The 500 RMB option includes the bottom case, PCB, and remote.
-I highly recommend opting for the higher priced option because it will be a pain finding a case to fit the PCB from other sources (unless you intend on building your own acrylic case).

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.4.eDPddB&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43280250305&pvid=2365b60b-d9b7-46c1-9ed3-4dd309ada7d2
-This is the topcase, available in three different thicknesses and multiple colors.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.6.eDPddB&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43280594282&pvid=2365b60b-d9b7-46c1-9ed3-4dd309ada7d2
-Here is the plate, which is semi-optional. I say semi-optional because the plate does not seem to support solder-less switch swapping. Some of you might prefer to go plate-less for maximum customizability.

Optional Items:

Stickers (available from many sources)
Lube (Krytox recommended, available from many sources)
LEDs (2x3x4 size, the NuclearSandwich GB has a couple interesting colors available; the more common colors are available almost anywhere - eBay, AliExpress, etc.)
Custom Springs (Sprit GB highly recommended)

For TaoBao agent, I have used TaoBaoFocus before and had no issues with them. I've also heard many good things about YoyBuy. Just plug in the links I listed above into their searches and add them to cart with the options you'd like.

Hope this helps!
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.2.kVhvnJ&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43228379649&pvid=8aaf49f7-fb6b-4fbe-8c47-b033e6e3d14c
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 06:17:36
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sun, 04 January 2015, 00:27:09
For those of you looking to buy one of these for yourself, here are the parts you will need for a complete build:


Necessary Items:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3817085419.77.YRhsVl&id=43280250305
-The 500 RMB option includes the bottom case, PCB, and remote.
-I highly recommend opting for the higher priced option because it will be a pain finding a case to fit the PCB from other sources (unless you intend on building your own acrylic case).

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.4.eDPddB&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43280250305&pvid=2365b60b-d9b7-46c1-9ed3-4dd309ada7d2
-This is the topcase, available in three different thicknesses and multiple colors.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.6.eDPddB&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43280594282&pvid=2365b60b-d9b7-46c1-9ed3-4dd309ada7d2
-Here is the plate, which is semi-optional. I say semi-optional because the plate does not seem to support solder-less switch swapping. Some of you might prefer to go plate-less for maximum customizability.

Optional Items:

Stickers (available from many sources)
Lube (Krytox recommended, available from many sources)
LEDs (2x3x4 size, the NuclearSandwich GB has a couple interesting colors available; the more common colors are available almost anywhere - eBay, AliExpress, etc.)
Custom Springs (Sprit GB highly recommended)

For TaoBao agent, I have used TaoBaoFocus before and had no issues with them. I've also heard many good things about YoyBuy. Just plug in the links I listed above into their searches and add them to cart with the options you'd like.

Hope this helps!

are you sure about second link ?
shouldn't it be this :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

and it seems that 悬壶济世 is right , feets are necessary too :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.2.kVhvnJ&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43228379649&pvid=8aaf49f7-fb6b-4fbe-8c47-b033e6e3d14c
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: byker on Sun, 04 January 2015, 12:40:02
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 06:17:36
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sun, 04 January 2015, 00:27:09
For those of you looking to buy one of these for yourself, here are the parts you will need for a complete build:


Necessary Items:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3817085419.77.YRhsVl&id=43280250305
-The 500 RMB option includes the bottom case, PCB, and remote.
-I highly recommend opting for the higher priced option because it will be a pain finding a case to fit the PCB from other sources (unless you intend on building your own acrylic case).

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.4.eDPddB&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43280250305&pvid=2365b60b-d9b7-46c1-9ed3-4dd309ada7d2
-This is the topcase, available in three different thicknesses and multiple colors.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.6.eDPddB&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43280594282&pvid=2365b60b-d9b7-46c1-9ed3-4dd309ada7d2
-Here is the plate, which is semi-optional. I say semi-optional because the plate does not seem to support solder-less switch swapping. Some of you might prefer to go plate-less for maximum customizability.

Optional Items:

Stickers (available from many sources)
Lube (Krytox recommended, available from many sources)
LEDs (2x3x4 size, the NuclearSandwich GB has a couple interesting colors available; the more common colors are available almost anywhere - eBay, AliExpress, etc.)
Custom Springs (Sprit GB highly recommended)

For TaoBao agent, I have used TaoBaoFocus before and had no issues with them. I've also heard many good things about YoyBuy. Just plug in the links I listed above into their searches and add them to cart with the options you'd like.

Hope this helps!

are you sure about second link ?
shouldn't it be this :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

and it seems that 悬壶济世 is right , feets are necessary too :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.2.kVhvnJ&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43228379649&pvid=8aaf49f7-fb6b-4fbe-8c47-b033e6e3d14c

Yeah I am very close to ordering it. I believe you have the right links, not sygaldry.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:03:27
Quote from: byker on Sun, 04 January 2015, 12:40:02
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 06:17:36
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sun, 04 January 2015, 00:27:09
For those of you looking to buy one of these for yourself, here are the parts you will need for a complete build:


Necessary Items:

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-3817085419.77.YRhsVl&id=43280250305
-The 500 RMB option includes the bottom case, PCB, and remote.
-I highly recommend opting for the higher priced option because it will be a pain finding a case to fit the PCB from other sources (unless you intend on building your own acrylic case).

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.4.eDPddB&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43280250305&pvid=2365b60b-d9b7-46c1-9ed3-4dd309ada7d2
-This is the topcase, available in three different thicknesses and multiple colors.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.6.eDPddB&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43280594282&pvid=2365b60b-d9b7-46c1-9ed3-4dd309ada7d2
-Here is the plate, which is semi-optional. I say semi-optional because the plate does not seem to support solder-less switch swapping. Some of you might prefer to go plate-less for maximum customizability.

Optional Items:

Stickers (available from many sources)
Lube (Krytox recommended, available from many sources)
LEDs (2x3x4 size, the NuclearSandwich GB has a couple interesting colors available; the more common colors are available almost anywhere - eBay, AliExpress, etc.)
Custom Springs (Sprit GB highly recommended)

For TaoBao agent, I have used TaoBaoFocus before and had no issues with them. I've also heard many good things about YoyBuy. Just plug in the links I listed above into their searches and add them to cart with the options you'd like.

Hope this helps!

are you sure about second link ?
shouldn't it be this :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

and it seems that 悬壶济世 is right , feets are necessary too :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.1998246701.2.kVhvnJ&scm=1007.10152.2215.i43280250305&id=43228379649&pvid=8aaf49f7-fb6b-4fbe-8c47-b033e6e3d14c

Yeah I am very close to ordering it. I believe you have the right links, not sygaldry.

Do you have any idea of what the top parts look like ? It seems like there different thickness available .
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: LechnerDE on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:06:25
Quote from: SL89 on Sat, 03 January 2015, 06:10:16
here i was all excited for a Red Scarf II, but it looks like that ship has sailed.


Yeah, I was always looking at GhostofHarry's IC for the Red Scarf II, but that never happened.

Now there is even a new version. I wonder whether there is a PCB that supports the numpad on the left side?!
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:52:32
whelp I bought it. Everything in silver. Now I need to buy some clear switches, stickers and korean springs.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: SuperBobKing on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:16:41
I really like the g80-1800 like layout that is an option on this and the lightsaver V2. It is my favorite after a similar layout with the numpad on the left (which is only hypothetical since I have never actually seen it done).

I do have some questions about it though. I tried translating the thread and taobao links, but I couldn't find the answers. So if someone knows the answers or has an account on the Chinese forum to ask I would appreciate it.

I think it is safe to assume it is programmable, but how does that work? Depending on how the remote control RGBs are implemented the firmware might need to be coded to support it. So does anyone know if the keyboard's controller is independent of the LED controller, or if you have to use a special software to program it? What micro-controller does it use, just in case writing my own firmware would be easier or I get bored and decide to do it anyway? Also what chip(s) does it use for the remote and controlling the LEDs, if that is separate from the controller for the keyboard itself? My main concern is whether it is fully programmable while still supporting the RGBs and the remote. If I can't get answers to the more detailed questions just that is perfectly fine.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:39:53
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:52:32
whelp I bought it. Everything in silver. Now I need to buy some clear switches, stickers and korean springs.
Did you take a 180¥  options from this page ?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

All soldering is done besides switches ?

Like SuperBobKing , I'm interested in every info we can have on the programmability of this .
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:45:18
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:39:53
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:52:32
whelp I bought it. Everything in silver. Now I need to buy some clear switches, stickers and korean springs.
Did you take a 180¥  options from this page ?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

All soldering is done besides switches ?

Like SuperBobKing , I'm interested in every info we can have on the programmability of this .

I did get the 180 version. I believe it it determines the thickness of the metal. as you can get 3 cheaper thinner metal tops and stack them to get the layered look.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 16:26:39
So I prepared my order on taobaofocus for this :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280250305 500¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43315221628 180¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280594282
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43228379649 , I assume one item is a pack of 4 ?

Before I order it can a chinese speaker confirm that all the soldering job (besides switches ) is done on the PCB ?
Also is there any information on the programmability of the keyboard in the description of the item (first link) ?
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 04 January 2015, 16:37:10
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 16:26:39

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43228379649 , I assume one item is a pack of 4 ?

One item is a pack of 2 on the feet.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: feizor on Sun, 04 January 2015, 16:56:22
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:45:18
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:39:53
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:52:32
whelp I bought it. Everything in silver. Now I need to buy some clear switches, stickers and korean springs.
Did you take a 180�  options from this page ?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

All soldering is done besides switches ?

Like SuperBobKing , I'm interested in every info we can have on the programmability of this .

I did get the 180 version. I believe it it determines the thickness of the metal. as you can get 3 cheaper thinner metal tops and stack them to get the layered look.

The thinnest case top uses counter sink screws from the top so screws are exposed whereas the thicker versions screw from the bottom so screws are not visible.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 17:06:06
Quote from: feizor on Sun, 04 January 2015, 16:56:22
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:45:18
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:39:53
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:52:32
whelp I bought it. Everything in silver. Now I need to buy some clear switches, stickers and korean springs.
Did you take a 180�  options from this page ?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

All soldering is done besides switches ?

Like SuperBobKing , I'm interested in every info we can have on the programmability of this .

I did get the 180 version. I believe it it determines the thickness of the metal. as you can get 3 cheaper thinner metal tops and stack them to get the layered look.

The thinnest case top uses counter sink screws from the top so screws are exposed whereas the thicker versions screw from the bottom so screws are not visible.
So the 120¥ is this version (http://img04.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i4/657078890/TB2_KtkbFXXXXX0XXXXXXXXXXXX_!!657078890.jpg) with top screw ?
180¥ is the thicker top with bottom screws ? (http://img03.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/TB1BbEEGpXXXXa0apXXXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg)

60¥  is a border so there's no gape between the side side of the bottom and the side of the top ? (http://img04.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i4/657078890/TB2qrNgbFXXXXcCXXXXXXXXXXXX_!!657078890.jpg)
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: SpAmRaY on Sun, 04 January 2015, 17:07:51
Wish we could have cool keyboards like this made and sold as a community.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: SuperBobKing on Sun, 04 January 2015, 17:27:41
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 17:06:06
Quote from: feizor on Sun, 04 January 2015, 16:56:22
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:45:18
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:39:53
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:52:32
whelp I bought it. Everything in silver. Now I need to buy some clear switches, stickers and korean springs.
Did you take a 180�  options from this page ?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

All soldering is done besides switches ?

Like SuperBobKing , I'm interested in every info we can have on the programmability of this .

I did get the 180 version. I believe it it determines the thickness of the metal. as you can get 3 cheaper thinner metal tops and stack them to get the layered look.

The thinnest case top uses counter sink screws from the top so screws are exposed whereas the thicker versions screw from the bottom so screws are not visible.
So the 120¥ is this version
Show Image
(http://img04.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i4/657078890/TB2_KtkbFXXXXX0XXXXXXXXXXXX_!!657078890.jpg)
with top screw ?
180¥ is the thicker top with bottom screws ?
Show Image
(http://img03.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/TB1BbEEGpXXXXa0apXXXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg)


60¥  is a border so there's no gape between the side side of the bottom and the side of the top ?
Show Image
(http://img04.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i4/657078890/TB2qrNgbFXXXXcCXXXXXXXXXXXX_!!657078890.jpg)


I am pretty sure the 3mm (60 yuan) option is the one with visible screws. 5mm is 120 and 8 mm is 180. I am pretty sure that all options have the small gap between the edges of the top and bottom pieces. From what the forum said it seems like the gap is there on purpose as an aesthetic feature.

EDIT: I had 160 instead of 180
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: pasph on Sun, 04 January 2015, 17:42:25
Hope for a GH GB of those
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Sygaldry on Sun, 04 January 2015, 17:55:52
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:45:18
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:39:53
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:52:32
whelp I bought it. Everything in silver. Now I need to buy some clear switches, stickers and korean springs.
Did you take a 180¥  options from this page ?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

All soldering is done besides switches ?

Like SuperBobKing , I'm interested in every info we can have on the programmability of this .

I did get the 180 version. I believe it it determines the thickness of the metal. as you can get 3 cheaper thinner metal tops and stack them to get the layered look.

Super excited to see your finished build  :thumb:
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:45:49
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sun, 04 January 2015, 17:55:52
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:45:18
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:39:53
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:52:32
whelp I bought it. Everything in silver. Now I need to buy some clear switches, stickers and korean springs.
Did you take a 180¥  options from this page ?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

All soldering is done besides switches ?

Like SuperBobKing , I'm interested in every info we can have on the programmability of this .

I did get the 180 version. I believe it it determines the thickness of the metal. as you can get 3 cheaper thinner metal tops and stack them to get the layered look.

Super excited to see your finished build  :thumb:

I am excited to! This will be my first time building a complete keyboard. I have been eye balling this layout since I have seen it on the LZ boards. I am torn between vintage blacks or ergo clears though. I have vintage blacks on my poker and love them. But heard so many great things of ergo clears.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:47:35
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:45:49
Quote from: Sygaldry on Sun, 04 January 2015, 17:55:52
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:45:18
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 14:39:53
Quote from: Bromono on Sun, 04 January 2015, 13:52:32
whelp I bought it. Everything in silver. Now I need to buy some clear switches, stickers and korean springs.
Did you take a 180¥  options from this page ?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.h25kwe&id=43315221628

All soldering is done besides switches ?

Like SuperBobKing , I'm interested in every info we can have on the programmability of this .

I did get the 180 version. I believe it it determines the thickness of the metal. as you can get 3 cheaper thinner metal tops and stack them to get the layered look.

Super excited to see your finished build  :thumb:

I am excited to! This will be my first time building a complete keyboard. I have been eye balling this layout since I have seen it on the LZ boards. I am torn between vintage blacks or ergo clears though. I have vintage blacks on my poker and love them. But heard so many great things of ergo clears.

As someone who loves both vintage blacks and ergo clears, go with vintage blacks. They're much smoother.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: twiddle on Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:48:56
Is the topcase strictly speaking 'necessary'? Looks like it isn't providing any additional support to the switches or structural support to the case, just is a top layer for the case which allows for countersunk screws, etc. Makes me wonder if you couldn't just use a nut.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: exitfire401 on Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:55:24
Quote from: twiddle on Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:48:56
Is the topcase strictly speaking 'necessary'? Looks like it isn't providing any additional support to the switches or structural support to the case, just is a top layer for the case which allows for countersunk screws, etc. Makes me wonder if you couldn't just use a nut.

Doesn't look necessary. There are screws that hold own the PCB. Only reason you would need the top was if you wanted it to look a little better. Otherwise, just having the bottom case on would look akin to a low profile poker case.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: twiddle on Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:58:30
Quote from: exitfire401 on Sun, 04 January 2015, 18:55:24
Doesn't look necessary. There are screws that hold own the PCB. Only reason you would need the top was if you wanted it to look a little better. Otherwise, just having the bottom case on would look akin to a low profile poker case.

Great, that is what I was hoping.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: 悬壶济世 on Sun, 04 January 2015, 21:08:21
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 16:26:39
So I prepared my order on taobaofocus for this :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280250305 500¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43315221628 180¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280594282
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43228379649 , I assume one item is a pack of 4 ?

Before I order it can a chinese speaker confirm that all the soldering job (besides switches ) is done on the PCB ?
Also is there any information on the programmability of the keyboard in the description of the item (first link) ?
all the soldering job (besides switches ) on the PCB，Manual publish later.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: byker on Sun, 04 January 2015, 23:02:48
Quote from: 悬壶济世 on Sun, 04 January 2015, 21:08:21
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 16:26:39
So I prepared my order on taobaofocus for this :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280250305 500¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43315221628 180¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280594282
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43228379649 , I assume one item is a pack of 4 ?

Before I order it can a chinese speaker confirm that all the soldering job (besides switches ) is done on the PCB ?
Also is there any information on the programmability of the keyboard in the description of the item (first link) ?
all the soldering job (besides switches ) on the PCB，Manual publish later.

Are you the seller? :)
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: dorkvader on Sun, 04 January 2015, 23:49:17
Quote from: pasph on Sun, 04 January 2015, 17:42:25
Hope for a GH GB of those
same here, too lazy to order it all separately from taobao and also having a GH saves shipping for everyone.

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Sun, 04 January 2015, 17:07:51
Wish we could have cool keyboards like this made and sold as a community.
does no-one remember the skeldon? Other than the teensy, everything was designed here on GH by GHers. The case was even made in America! I guess everyone else was busy buying the LZGH instead :/
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 05 January 2015, 00:59:10
Quote from: 悬壶济世 on Sun, 04 January 2015, 21:08:21
Quote from: azhdar on Sun, 04 January 2015, 16:26:39
So I prepared my order on taobaofocus for this :
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280250305 500¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43315221628 180¥ option
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43280594282
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43228379649 , I assume one item is a pack of 4 ?

Before I order it can a chinese speaker confirm that all the soldering job (besides switches ) is done on the PCB ?
Also is there any information on the programmability of the keyboard in the description of the item (first link) ?
all the soldering job (besides switches ) on the PCB，Manual publish later.
Thanks for the answer . Definitely ordering one , looking forward for the manual , in the meantime , can you give us an idea about the possibility of the PCB .
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 05 January 2015, 02:30:58
I'm looking into getting something organized, at least for US buyer. If nothing else will be able to ship all together then redistribute.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: byker on Mon, 05 January 2015, 02:40:12
Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 05 January 2015, 02:30:58
I'm looking into getting something organized, at least for US buyer. If nothing else will be able to ship all together then redistribute.

That would be great if you could get something organized, thanks Ivan! :)
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 05 January 2015, 10:40:39
Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 05 January 2015, 02:30:58
I'm looking into getting something organized, at least for US buyer. If nothing else will be able to ship all together then redistribute.

Awesome :D
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Mon, 05 January 2015, 12:08:06
Ordered through TaobaoFocus , 180$ total and i took extras , really worth .
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: berserkfan on Mon, 05 January 2015, 12:30:27
A note on the keycaps, since Bromono asked me.

I believe Tai Hao's add on set will fit the nonstandard keys on the red scarf very well. You should only have to use a blank to substitute for the 0 key.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58110.0

Harry has lots of spare sets that he can sell for cheap.

I see a good win win solution here.

I think there's a
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: SuperBobKing on Mon, 05 January 2015, 12:58:38
The board is also compatible with other layouts that are more common as well. The taobao page for the plate shows some, and IIRC it is compatible with a standard ansi layout.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 05 January 2015, 13:36:05
just noticed it's the same layout as lightsaver (awesome layout!) I was sort of hoping it'd be missing the function row like the red scarf II
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: geniekid on Mon, 05 January 2015, 14:24:24
I particularly like support for split backspace which is not something the Lightsaver has.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 05 January 2015, 20:58:31
Looks like will only have about a 1 week window to get in orders for me to do US proxy/mini groupbuy for the groupbuy.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: MGH on Mon, 05 January 2015, 21:03:33
Quote from: IvanIvanovich on Mon, 05 January 2015, 20:58:31
Looks like will only have about a 1 week window to get in orders for me to do US proxy/mini groupbuy for the groupbuy.
Please do, just showed this to my friend who is looking for a new keyboard, and he fell in love with it.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 January 2015, 00:30:33
Yeah, just trying to clear up some detail. Hope to have a buy thread up tomorrow sometime.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: MessyCaps on Tue, 06 January 2015, 02:38:21
Oh wow, this is a masterful creation.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: IvanIvanovich on Tue, 06 January 2015, 12:44:38
US buyers, I am offering a proxy service. See here if interested (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67398.0).
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:35:56
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: byker on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:34:27
Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:35:56
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?


Pictures!  ;D
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:46:18
Quote from: byker on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:34:27
Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:35:56
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?


Pictures!  ;D
you can find some potatoes here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1655704#msg1655704
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:34:57
Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:46:18
Quote from: byker on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:34:27
Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:35:56
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?


Pictures!  ;D
you can find some potatoes here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1655704#msg1655704

Ughhh My tracking hasnt updated since China D=
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: byker on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:57:28
Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:46:18
Quote from: byker on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:34:27
Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:35:56
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?


Pictures!  ;D
you can find some potatoes here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1655704#msg1655704 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1655704#msg1655704)


Nice! Looking good. :) When are you going to build it up?
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:58:44
Quote from: byker on Tue, 24 February 2015, 12:57:28
Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:46:18
Quote from: byker on Tue, 24 February 2015, 11:34:27
Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:35:56
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?


Pictures!  ;D
you can find some potatoes here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1655704#msg1655704 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=33130.msg1655704#msg1655704)


Nice! Looking good. :) When are you going to build it up?
next week, gotta lube and spring those gateron clears first !
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: twiddle on Tue, 24 February 2015, 15:03:27
People are getting theirs already? Damn, Buychina still has mine listed as 'processing'... *mutters*
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: foxer on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:23:32
I hate to sound stupid but how much is 550.00 ¥ to dollars or gbp?
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: sethk_ on Tue, 24 February 2015, 17:51:20
Quote from: foxer on Tue, 24 February 2015, 16:23:32
I hate to sound stupid but how much is 550.00 ¥ to dollars or gbp?
88.04 USD and 56.98 GBP , you can google it " 550.00Y to USD or GBP"
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: foxer on Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:51:57
I did that but it just seemed hella cheap. I don't know how the fk to work TaoBao though. I'll have a word with JD or someone tonight. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:55:22
Make sure not to mix up Japanese Yen and Chinese Yuan when getting the conversion rates.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:56:20
Quote from: foxer on Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:51:57
I did that but it just seemed hella cheap. I don't know how the fk to work TaoBao though. I'll have a word with JD or someone tonight. Thanks for the help.
pm me if you need infos I ordered through a proxy and it landed safely in France yesterday (took about 6 weeks to get it there).
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Bromono on Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:57:44
Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:35:56
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?

I am going to need to program it as well. Have you got any info on this?
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 25 February 2015, 08:04:31
Quote from: Bromono on Wed, 25 February 2015, 07:57:44
Quote from: azhdar on Tue, 24 February 2015, 07:35:56
Received today it looks great, anyone figured how to program it ?

I am going to need to program it as well. Have you got any info on this?
I got hold on a chinese manual, I'll try to make a comprehensive english manual soon.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: twiddle on Thu, 19 March 2015, 02:41:27
Damnit. Proxy cocked up, they didnt even order the bloody thing. Now out of stock :/
Any suggestions on alternatives that I can check out from Taobao? I would rather just use the money to try something similar, than muck about with refunds and such, if I can. Unless somebody has a spare from Ivan's GB that they don't mind sending to AUS?
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 19 March 2015, 03:54:56
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69409.0
lightsaverII round 2 , not the same price range though.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: twiddle on Thu, 19 March 2015, 03:58:44
I appreciate the heads up, but you are right, the price range is a bit high. Might just get the refund and put it towards some more tools, unless there are any more suggestions. Decisions decisions.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: azhdar on Thu, 19 March 2015, 04:12:52
RS84: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69064.0
Not quite the same form factor but worth a look.
Taobao links in the thread above.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: twiddle on Thu, 19 March 2015, 04:21:35
Much obliged. I had thought there was another design doing the rounds, but couldn't remember what it was. I was looking forward to the version with the numpad, though, seeing as I have already got a Kaliet board with a similar layout (build log is in the workshop section).
Thanks regardless :)
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: LXXXIX on Tue, 12 May 2015, 19:34:56
Does anyone know if these are still available?

I would love to get one. I added the 4 necessary items on TaoFocus, but I'm not sure if it includes the PCB.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: FranksNewLiver on Wed, 29 July 2015, 00:02:34
I'm curious as well if these are still available.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: lucaslink on Wed, 29 July 2015, 22:16:18
I also want one.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: ander on Fri, 31 July 2015, 03:07:04
"Red Scarf"? Who names these things, Pierre Cardin?
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Steezus on Mon, 10 August 2015, 19:50:47
I'm interested in getting the RS96 kit but I live in eastern U.S., how would I go about getting one of these from Taobao. I only know English as well so that is a huge setback for me.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: twiddle on Mon, 10 August 2015, 20:23:03

Quote from: Steezus on Mon, 10 August 2015, 19:50:47
I'm interested in getting the RS96 kit but I live in eastern U.S., how would I go about getting one of these from Taobao. I only know English as well so that is a huge setback for me.


My proxy still has my money from the cock-up earlier, figured the refund was a hassle.. No luck finding any listings, myself, so let me know if you find anything.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Kliwon on Fri, 21 August 2015, 22:19:09
Hi, I just found this on taobao  :rolleyes:
http://tw.taobao.com/item/520774665151.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-9310869294.27.9LEufc (http://tw.taobao.com/item/520774665151.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-9310869294.27.9LEufc)
BY 84? it's what kind pcb?
sorry if I'm wrong ask in this thread
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: asgeirtj on Tue, 22 November 2016, 11:25:41
Sorry to necro thread but I see this board is on MD now, I'm concerned it has alu plate, does the plate flex?  I tried a LZRV with an alu plate and I thought it was very unsturdy and it flexed, so I switched tot steel, I'm concerned this board is like that because it has an alu plate.  Anyone have this board and can tell me?  Is it as sturdy (that is it does not flex when you type) as OEM boards with steel plates?
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 22 November 2016, 19:56:52
Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 22 November 2016, 11:25:41
Sorry to necro thread but I see this board is on MD now, I'm concerned it has alu plate, does the plate flex?  I tried a LZRV with an alu plate and I thought it was very unsturdy and it flexed, so I switched tot steel, I'm concerned this board is like that because it has an alu plate.  Anyone have this board and can tell me?  Is it as sturdy (that is it does not flex when you type) as OEM boards with steel plates?

I'm not sure about the LZRV, but if it's like the LZGH this should be a lot stiffer, even with alu plate. The reason is that the PCB bolts directly to the bottom case, so the bottom part of the case acts like a "plate" underneath it. The upper plate being aluminium really just acts to stabilize the switches with respect to eachother. For keyboards that hang from the plate, plate material makes a big dufference (this is why I had a one-off steel plate made for my skeldon), but I bet you could run this without a plate at all and it'd be good. I tried my lightsaver that way when I was rebuilding it once and it was just fine.

With a PCB sandwitched between two plates it should be quite stiff. Not sure if the rest of the build is to your liking, but that aspect should be ok. Most steel plate OEM boards the pcb hands from the plate also, so this is a different construction from that even.

Now I will yield to anyone who has firsthand experience with the board, but that's how it should shake out in principle. If you want a good KB like this with a steel plate, why not get a duck lightsaver? it's the same layout, similar construction (PCB bolts to case) and has a stainless steel plate already.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: michair on Wed, 23 November 2016, 03:51:26
What are those prices on taobao.com? Surely it's not reflecting the actual price.
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: asgeirtj on Wed, 23 November 2016, 06:45:40
Quote from: dorkvader on Tue, 22 November 2016, 19:56:52
Quote from: asgeirtj on Tue, 22 November 2016, 11:25:41
Sorry to necro thread but I see this board is on MD now, I'm concerned it has alu plate, does the plate flex?  I tried a LZRV with an alu plate and I thought it was very unsturdy and it flexed, so I switched tot steel, I'm concerned this board is like that because it has an alu plate.  Anyone have this board and can tell me?  Is it as sturdy (that is it does not flex when you type) as OEM boards with steel plates?

I'm not sure about the LZRV, but if it's like the LZGH this should be a lot stiffer, even with alu plate. The reason is that the PCB bolts directly to the bottom case, so the bottom part of the case acts like a "plate" underneath it. The upper plate being aluminium really just acts to stabilize the switches with respect to eachother. For keyboards that hang from the plate, plate material makes a big dufference (this is why I had a one-off steel plate made for my skeldon), but I bet you could run this without a plate at all and it'd be good. I tried my lightsaver that way when I was rebuilding it once and it was just fine.

With a PCB sandwitched between two plates it should be quite stiff. Not sure if the rest of the build is to your liking, but that aspect should be ok. Most steel plate OEM boards the pcb hands from the plate also, so this is a different construction from that even.

Now I will yield to anyone who has firsthand experience with the board, but that's how it should shake out in principle. If you want a good KB like this with a steel plate, why not get a duck lightsaver? it's the same layout, similar construction (PCB bolts to case) and has a stainless steel plate already.

I think getting a lightsaver is almost impossible :)
Title: Re: red scarf III
Post by: Ashlyn on Wed, 23 November 2016, 21:02:25
can you sell on Aliexpress ?