wow im very interested in this! was about to order a Archon RE:AL SUPERIOR EX, do you have any experience so you could compare this to yours?
wow im very interested in this! was about to order a Archon RE:AL SUPERIOR EX, do you have any experience so you could compare this to yours?
I was very interested in that board as well. Didn't get a chance to buy one tho. That keyboard uses the same sliders so I guess they should be similar.
Any chance for other layouts for the bottom row?
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This is really cool! Are you thinking of making more and selling them? (ah wait, this is in the interest check section :p )
That looks amazing. Can you comment a bit on the feel of the niz switches?
Edit: My only request would be to have a cherry stab solution instead of Costar style stabs. Granted it would still be plate-mount, but those of us who prefer one over the other would love this.
Do you know if topre sliders and domes would work with this case and pcb?
I would also like a sound demo
Edit: My only request would be to have a cherry stab solution instead of Costar style stabs. Granted it would still be plate-mount, but those of us who prefer one over the other would love this.
I like costar stabs better but plate-mount Cherry stabs are feasible
Awesome looking board, look like these would work with topre/NT too?
...Also is that PBT Muted I see?? :eek: :eek: :eek:
I like costar stabs better but plate-mount Cherry stabs are feasible
Side note, love your stuff man great looking cases and your boards have come out really well! Would love to get a custom from you someday!
Do BKE domes work? From reading the thread think they do, but not 100% sure so wanna ask.
👀excite
Do BKE domes work? From reading the thread think they do, but not 100% sure so wanna ask.
👀excite
Yes plz. Gonna make me buy a Plum87 again, haha.
Case for the plum75?Yes plz. Gonna make me buy a Plum87 again, haha.
You don't need to buy a Plum87 if want to join a future GB of this kit. It's a waste to buy a Plum 87 then throw away the case, plate, and keycaps. I've contacted Plum/Niz. They can provide all the parts I need.
Would be interested in a WKL / Split backspace version :)
Would be interested in a WKL / Split backspace version :)
Would be interested in a WKL / Split backspace version :)(https://blog-imgs-120.fc2.com/w/a/t/watchmonoblog/ATOM66_01.jpg)
any update on this project? :)
Can you confirm if BKE Redux would work in this?
I'm curious, how do these feel compared to Topre? I also was Looking as the Archon RE:AL Superior EX but this case is really beautiful in comparison, and that's saying something considering the Archon case was super nice to begin with!
I am interested. I have an ABKO K935P board that uses the same kind of switches. Do you think it would be compatible?
It's fine if it's not, I enjoy these switches a lot so getting another is okay.
I'm curious, how do these feel compared to Topre? I also was Looking as the Archon RE:AL Superior EX but this case is really beautiful in comparison, and that's saying something considering the Archon case was super nice to begin with!
Sorry to get offtopic, but what are those keycaps in OP?
Any chance for other layouts for the bottom row?
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Unlike MX switch or even ALPS switch keyboards, an EC keyboard PCB can only support a single layout. I think other layouts, say WKL layout, can only be supported by another newly designed PCB from Niz. That's not impossible according to the good experiences I spoke with Niz.
I am interested. I have an ABKO K935P board that uses the same kind of switches. Do you think it would be compatible?
It's fine if it's not, I enjoy these switches a lot so getting another is okay.
Very interesting project!
AFAIK Niz does not do any ISO keyboard right? Do you think it would be possible to do it in this project?
Thanks!
It would be great if you can offer the whole board with the niz internals. Is that a possibility
I think some programmability would be sweet.
but why plum? their version of costar is terrible (I used to own a 75 and an 87), and the consistency of the sliders are bad as well. the stock 35g and 45g domes are too soft, unless you get (the almost always out of stock) 55g or 65g korean domes from ebay. then the sliders. the fit of caps on the sliders are very inconsistent (maybe could be replaced with other custom sliders?).
but why plum? their version of costar is terrible (I used to own a 75 and an 87), and the consistency of the sliders are bad as well. the stock 35g and 45g domes are too soft, unless you get (the almost always out of stock) 55g or 65g korean domes from ebay. then the sliders. the fit of caps on the sliders are very inconsistent (maybe could be replaced with other custom sliders?).
I have decided to suspend this project but I still disagree with your points.
I use Filco costar stabs and they are not bad at all.
What do you mean by slider consistency? The sliders are smooth after lubing imo.
The so-called Korean domes are actually produced by Plum. The original plan was to provide 55g and 65g domes only. Unfortunately, as I mentioned above, I decide to suspend this project mostly because the lack of 65g domes.
but why plum? their version of costar is terrible (I used to own a 75 and an 87), and the consistency of the sliders are bad as well. the stock 35g and 45g domes are too soft, unless you get (the almost always out of stock) 55g or 65g korean domes from ebay. then the sliders. the fit of caps on the sliders are very inconsistent (maybe could be replaced with other custom sliders?).
I have decided to suspend this project but I still disagree with your points.
I use Filco costar stabs and they are not bad at all.
What do you mean by slider consistency? The sliders are smooth after lubing imo.
The so-called Korean domes are actually produced by Plum. The original plan was to provide 55g and 65g domes only. Unfortunately, as I mentioned above, I decide to suspend this project mostly because the lack of 65g domes.
Maybe I'm the odd one out on this, but that's a silly reason to stop for a cool product such as this. Topre domes are very easy to replace, so any user could do so later. People already often use BKE domes instead.
but why plum? their version of costar is terrible (I used to own a 75 and an 87), and the consistency of the sliders are bad as well. the stock 35g and 45g domes are too soft, unless you get (the almost always out of stock) 55g or 65g korean domes from ebay. then the sliders. the fit of caps on the sliders are very inconsistent (maybe could be replaced with other custom sliders?).
I have decided to suspend this project but I still disagree with your points.
I use Filco costar stabs and they are not bad at all.
What do you mean by slider consistency? The sliders are smooth after lubing imo.
The so-called Korean domes are actually produced by Plum. The original plan was to provide 55g and 65g domes only. Unfortunately, as I mentioned above, I decide to suspend this project mostly because the lack of 65g domes.
Maybe I'm the odd one out on this, but that's a silly reason to stop for a cool product such as this. Topre domes are very easy to replace, so any user could do so later. People already often use BKE domes instead.
I disagree that the stock Niz sliders are scratchy (at least after lubing), and I do not have issues with inconsistent fit on keycaps. I also have no issues with the Niz implementation of costar stabs, which are beautifully quiet and stable with minimal effort to lube them (as opposed to lubing and clipping and band-aid modding cherry-style stabs, which don't fit anyway). I have two Niz-made boards, one which I dome swapped and lubed with BKE Redux Heavies, and the other with the 65g Korean OEM domes and lubed sliders.
I think that you're missing the point about not having to harvest pieces from existing Topre products (rendering the original product non-functional/wasted cost). Also, BKE domes are a b*tch to align properly on Niz PCBs because they do not have the alignment pegs between the switches. Also realize that BKE Redux domes would have be sourced from a third party (Keyclack) who have proven to be unreliable in the past and would complicate logistics even further. I agree that while 55g OEM domes are passable, they are not ideal for the best feel with 65g being my preferred for a rounder tactile bump in contrast to the BKE Redux Heavies which have a pronounced/sharper tactile event.
Regardless, I can understand why Ramiel does not feel like the project can move forward at the moment, and it is his time and project to make the decision on. If people really want a high-end heavy CNC/anodized Niz TKL, the "Archon RE:AL Superior EX" can be sourced from Korea in standard TKL layout, and the case is based on a design by (the) Duck. I think top-mount was a nice ambition to have, but not necessary since the Nopre boards I own and have owned were all sandwich mount assemblies so the flex/bottoming out is not an issue.
Wow, definitely looking forward this can come into a GB. Actually I think the design is quite amazing that it will be great to be the first full aluminum custom chassis for the Niz/Plum EC 87 keyboard. You should consider a corporation with Niz. The latest version of Niz housing & sliders will debut in Mid 2019.
Looking forward to the new sliders & hoursings.
There's still no plan for the 65g domes though.
Ooft is this still happening? It looks amazing
Looking forward to the new sliders & hoursings.
There's still no plan for the 65g domes though.
They restocked them on ebay if you are interested. https://www.ebay.com/itm/142648185860
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/taqXEnZ.png)
So I ordered a new plate to test the cherry stabs as someone asked.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kdLe6Nn.png)
As shown in the photo, it's not possible to support Cherry stabs. The slider housing is too large that leaves no room for the Cherry stabs. Costar stab is the only possible way I can think of.
Can you confirm if BKE Redux would work in this?
Yes, BKE Redux works perfectly in the case.
The Archon RE:AL EX is great but also hard to get outside of Korea.