Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 31 October 2017, 03:05:25
Southpaw Extended 65%. Six months in the making, we're finally at the group buy stage. NA orders go through me, EU orders go through candykeys, and asia orders go through KP. Links below
North America: switchplate.co (http://switchplate.co)
European Union: candykeys.com (http://candykeys.com)
Asia and Oceania: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=561011231718 (https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=561011231718)
For non-Chinese speaking customers in the Asia and Oceania region, Order through the NA website. Orders will be shipped directly to you from china and you will be billed for shipping separately. Check post on second page for estimates and instructions
PROGRAMMING GUIDE HERE: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2625784#msg2625784
An Alps+MX 65% board with a left hand number pad. Designed for maximum workspace fluidity, with centered alphanumerics and a full number pad without the compromise of pushing the mouse outwards. Full ISO support with flexible layout options that include a left handed arrow cluster, split backspace, and a full 4x5 macropad in the place of the numpad. Case options with pricing that spans across the board.
Layouts below. PCB Mounted Stabs only. For those with alps concerns, I'm working on an insert for PCB Mount cherry stabs that work with alps keycaps. Hopefully those will be done before this ships and I can throw some in.
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Aluminum Case - Complete Kits starting at $210.00. Inc. both risers; 4 and 9 degrees.
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Revisions:
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USB opening revised to take all USB cables
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Matching chamfer added to bottom edge
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Support tabs milled into the corners of the case
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Rear leg of 9 degree riser redesigned for new rubber pads
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Bottom of case milled for rubber pad recess for use with cone feet
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Both 4 and 9 degree risers now sit flush with the chamfer on the edge of the case
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Both risers now have the front mount thread in from the bottom. This was done as there was not enough material on the risers to form strong enough threads if threaded from the top
Note that rubber feet for the keyboard will be included. They will most likely be the translucent thin material as opposed to the thicker crosshatched black material.
Integrated Case - Complete Kits for $107.50
(https://i.imgur.com/lgP3N92.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/UVcFJau.jpg)
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Revisions:
- Drilled/Slotted for cone feet to give a 10ish degree angle
- Holes for diffuser removed
Bent Plate - Complete Kits for $91.50.
(https://i.imgur.com/PyS7AZx.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/coeHv8D.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9IrL88p.jpg)
Builds into something like this: (75% board as an example)
(https://i.imgur.com/wc3P9vY.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/uVJmSzA.jpg)
Timeline looks to be around 6-9 weeks for production with a week in between a sorting/shipping time of 1-4 weeks.
Primary target is 100 units which is MOQ for the PCB. Interest check yields around 225 responses so everything looks good so far.
MOQ, and all other details listed on the main GB page on switchplate.co
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 31 October 2017, 20:19:20
- Decmber Update 1 - 12/3/17 - We're now done with the GB and have stopped taking orders. I am discussing MOQ with the vendor at the moment to see if we can convince the factories to produce a number of items that are not quite at MOQ. Most of the bent steel stuff has made it though and we're waiting to hear back on anodization and if we'll be able to anodize all the items that fall under a single color in one bath to make them available. As far as items that didn't meet MOQ, I'm in the process of emailing everyone who had something that didn't quite make it to production. If you're one of those people, you'll have the option of choosing another option or taking a full refund.
- January Update 1 - 1/13/18 - I've been a little busy so apologies for the lack of delays but everything is going smoothly. We are still on track for the Mid February / Early March Ship date for all orders. Laser cut plates, bent plates, integrated cases and PCBs will be finished sometime later this month and should be packed and ready to ship to the US by the last week of this month. Aluminum cases are due a little later on the week before Lunar New Year and will be shipping mid-February if everything goes to plan and no delays are encountered.
The risers for the aluminum cases have undergone a small change that will not affect functionality. The front and rear edges that meet the case will be ever so slightly rounded with a .2mm fillet as to retain the anodization during handling. We've worked with the factory to produce a small batch of these updated cases before the production time that was secured so there will be a small run of these shipped to us later this month to check everything over and if there aren't any issues, we'll continue with production and complete the cases as scheduled.
- January Update 2 - 1/16/18 - Just got some pictures from the factory and progress looks good. Small hitch with anodization as a result of issues with the fixtures, but that's been cleared up and the cases are being replaced. We're just a month or so away from the start of shipping so hang tight. I can promise everyone that this will be worth the wait.
(http://i.imgur.com/rrktWtP.jpg) (https://imgur.com/rrktWtP)
- January Update 3 - 1/30/18 - So I was notified yesterday of a delay with the PCB production. The factory that will be doing the SMD work will be closing on the 5th (originally the 10th) because of an inspection that came up right before the CNY break that they had planned so they went ahead and gave everyone a longer vacation and moved the time slot for our PCBs to after their CNY break which lasts to the first week of March. Judging from production last time, it should take about a week and a half from the start of production to packaging, which then they'll be shipped. We're looking at a fulfillment start time of early/mid march. I'll get another update out as soon as that date nears and we get some concrete dates.
On the other hand, everything save for the anodizing of the CNC cases is finished. I'm getting those shipped to me ahead of time to do a through QC on everything since I'll have some extra time now that we have to wait on the PCBs. As soon as those arrive, it's full speed ahead on packing and shipping everyone's orders.
- February Update 1 - 2/22/18 - Just wanted to keep everyone up to date, but I'm waiting to hear back from my contact this week since everyone is on their CNY break. Everything save for the PCBs should be packed and ready to go once everything starts running again.
- March Update 1 - 3/1/18 - Just received an email from my contact who is organizing the production and everything but the PCBs are either at or on the way to the warehouse. As far as PCBs are concerned, we are just waiting on PCB assembly. There was a minor discrepancy in start time and it turns out that they're starting back up on the 2nd of March (tomorrow) and will complete the PCBs on March 9th (Friday of next week) a little later than expected. I'm expecting that they'll have things consolidated and ready to ship overseas around a week after they are finished so I'm pushing the dates back just to be safe. The schedule as it stands now looks as follows. I will still need to get shipping finalized to the US as I don't have any sizes or weights for the bulk packages yet so I'm hoping that won't take long. All dates that are not TBD are concrete.
- March 9 - Complete PCB SMD assembly
- March 16 - Completion of packing and consolidating components
- Late March (TBD) - Bulk order ships to US/EU
- Late March / Early April (TBD) - Sort, QC and ship out to customers
- Mid/Late April (TBD) - Finish orders requiring assembly
- March Update 2 - 3/26/18 - The checking at the consolidation warehouse was just finished later than expected and will be shipped to me on Tuesday or Wednesday of this week. It'll be around 6 days from Beijing to San Francisco and I'll need a day or two to double check the bulk order, but I should be able to start shipping right after that since everything else (stabs, switches, etc...) have already been sorted ahead of time.
- March 30 - Dispatch of bulk order from Beijing
- April 5-7 - Receiving of bulk order
- Mid April - Pack and ship all orders
- Mid-Late April - Assemble and Ship all boards. Complete Group Buy
- April Update 2 - 4/24/18
Bit the bullet and am shipping the bulk order with SF express. Shipment has been dispatched to the SF express warehouse and should be on the plane tomorrow.
- May Update 1 - 5/2/18
Received one of the nine packages with the grey and black aluminum cases today. Some QC issues. Will update as I hear back from the factory. Good new though is that the anodization looks amazing on the cases.
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- April 14-25 - Pack and ship all orders that do not require assembly
- Late May - Early June - Complete boards that need assembly
- May Update 2 - 5/10/18
ooohh kayy sh*t hit the fan. Pending updated schedule.
May 5th Update - Major
So as some of you guys on discord have heard last night that there are some pretty major issues (in my eyes at least) with the project and I would like everyone to have an idea of what’s going on. I received the items on Friday of last week and immediately realized that there were a few things that were quite off. Because there were a number of people involved, it’s not certain where the files were adjusted but there’s just a lack of accountability in the situation so if anything needs to be redone, I’m willing to dig into my own pockets to make things right since want to make something that you guys can enjoy and be happy with.
There were also features discussed that didn’t get revised onto the final items and that part of things is being negotiated with the vendor that’s working as a middleman for all the production. I’ll keep everyone updated as something is worked out. All of the issues are listed below. Album of issues is here: https://imgur.com/a/QVQeZGq
PCBs
- Magnetic reset switch soldered to the underside of the PCB. It’s advisable for all cases and required for the aluminum case that this be cut off or resoldered on the top side. If you decide to just cut it, you can short the reset from the topside.
- Solder Mask was done in white instead of black. Vendor claimed to not have seen my email about doing a white solder mask and aren’t willing to fix it.
- Missing vertical ISO Enter for alps. This will not affect you if you’re planning on using an adapter or are planning on using DCS or DSA alps caps. If you’re planning to build a board up with alps, I urge you to email me about it.
Aluminum Cases
- Some blem (b-stock cases) in the run that was shipped to me. For the most part though, the anodizing came out amazing.
- Rubber pads were never manufactured. This was discussed but same issue as white solder mask. I will most likely have them done and send them out to everyone at a later date. I’ll be throwing bumpons in with if you choose to have your board shipped asap.
Plates
- Some plates were hastily cut. The cut lines on some of the plates look as if the DXF was drawn in MS Paint.
- About 60-80 percent of plates were mangled in transit. Partially because the vendor wrapped them together with shrink wrap and packed them in a single sheet of bubble wrap.
- DXF cut file was altered somewhere along the line and the edges are insanely thin. This will be fixed when new ones are made.
Bent Plates
- File was changed somewhere along the line and nobody wants to claim responsibility. Completely an aesthetical change, but I personally am pretty pissed about it.
Enclosed Steel case
- Screw holes on plate section weren’t removed
- Holes for cone feet were never cut.
- Some cases have fit issues and do not sit level on the ground.
Alright, so now for the important part.
I know everyone has been waiting a damn ridiculous amount of time for these so I’ll have a few options for you guys to choose from.
For bent plates and integrated cases, since the discrepancy in manufacturing is 100% aesthetical and doesn’t at all affect function, (save for the holes for the cone feet and cases that have allignment issues) I will give you the option to either take the one that’s here at the moment or to wait for the new units to be manufactured.The one condition to be met for remanufacturing though is that we need a certain number of units in order to make manufacturing them viable. Probably will be something along the lines of 10-20 units with a one to two month lead time.
For orders with aluminum cases and standalone plates, it’s a slightly different situation. A large majority of the plates came damaged and after QC, most either qualify as b-stock or belong with recyclable aluminum cans. Because most of you guys won’t be building plateless boards and probably don’t want to resolder, I have Three options as far as plates go.
- I can send you a b- stock plate and issue a partial refund. These plates are useable, but they’re not ultra straight. Keep in mind plates will straighten out when you mount and solder switches. As this is tray mount, the plate doesn’t as much contribute to the feel of the board as it does stability of the switches.
- I can refund you for the plate in full and you can build the board up plateless. Keep in mind that you’ll need PCB mount switches to build it up like this and you’ll have marginally more wobble with certain switches.
- You can wait for the plates to be redone. This will be around a month or two. One thing though is that if the factory can’t give me a 100% guarantee that plates will come out perfect, I’ll be going to a different factory that’s been used for some really really high end customs and having them make the plates. With the secondary option, I have doubts of the colors being 100% perfect, but I personally value function over form.
I might or might not have enough A stock cases to cover every single color. (I’m about 75 or 80 percent through QC and I know that there’s one case color where there aren’t enough A stock cases) If there aren’t enough A stock cases for your selected color, I can do one of three things.
- I can send you the blem case with the partial refund. I’ll be sending everyone images of the exact case they’ll be receiving so there aren’t any unwelcome surprises.
- You can opt to wait for the cases to be redone. 1-2 month wait.
Final Notes
I am really sorry that this is once again delayed. I will be doing future projects with my own manufacturing and resources (some of them which have manufactured customs and higher end boards before) and local designers to ensure that this doesn’t happen again. This will also help lower prices from here on out since I will no longer be going through a middleman of sorts. As for this situation specifically, send inquiries for order change to contact@switchplate.co and I will take note of what you would like to do with your order and process it accordingly. These decisions will be final as I will be allocating items accordingly to b-stock for those that wanted extras as soon as I process your order. For general questions, please use the comments here or the GH thread so I can get an idea of what everyone wants. I’ll try to answer them promptly here, on GH and discord. Replies might be a little slow, but I’m damn busy this week with APs and Finals at school so if I don’t respond within 12 hours, definitely feel free to resend the message. Keep your eyes out for another update on the website and the GH thread as discussions with the vendor and QC finishes up.
Link to sign up for update emails: https://switchplate.us17.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=618cf646781228a46f5914218&id=3fc437233f
Link to GH Thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.0
Link to project page on website: https://switchplate.co/collections/southpaw-extended-65-group-buy
Order changes only, use threads and discord for general questions: contact@switchplate.co
Post by: ipreferpie on Tue, 31 October 2017, 22:23:46
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Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 01 November 2017, 00:05:35
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 01 November 2017, 03:40:53
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 01 November 2017, 03:52:08
I'm sitting here like
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Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 01 November 2017, 03:58:46
Any idea when the EU proxy will be open for orders?
I'm sitting here likeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/1pFx8eF.png)
Reddit had in the next few days. That candykey's on one holiday.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 01 November 2017, 04:00:10
Ah okay, thanks! :)Any idea when the EU proxy will be open for orders?
I'm sitting here likeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/1pFx8eF.png)
Reddit had in the next few days. That candykey's on one holiday.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 01 November 2017, 11:16:28
Post by: cynnoh on Wed, 01 November 2017, 13:13:03
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 01 November 2017, 19:38:04
wanted to keep track of this cause seriously thinking might need one as the ultimate MMO gaming board. I am thinking since its QMK.. programmable.. I can set up the num pad as a micro pad. Then re-map the keys to be numbers plus wasd and any other skills I use! thought eliminating the need for the crappy MMO mouse that I really don't like. I a quick question is the cases your selling the aluminum ones are MOQ per case are all cases as far as color goes?
It comes on TMK and will have a preset on tkg.io but you can port it to QMK as far as I am concerned. I'll have to try it out when I have time.
The aluminum ones have MOQ set by color since those are the minimum number of cases the factory is willing to anodize at a given time.
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 01 November 2017, 19:58:21
Can’t wait to join! Will this be on any Asian GB forums like Taobao? Want to save on shipping
Asia proxy is up and running. Check the link at the top
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:30:43
wanted to keep track of this cause seriously thinking might need one as the ultimate MMO gaming board. I am thinking since its QMK.. programmable.. I can set up the num pad as a micro pad. Then re-map the keys to be numbers plus wasd and any other skills I use! thought eliminating the need for the crappy MMO mouse that I really don't like. I a quick question is the cases your selling the aluminum ones are MOQ per case are all cases as far as color goes?
It comes on TMK and will have a preset on tkg.io but you can port it to QMK as far as I am concerned. I'll have to try it out when I have time.
The aluminum ones have MOQ set by color since those are the minimum number of cases the factory is willing to anodize at a given time.
Thanks and QMK sounds like it most likely be as easy to setup I think been to that site before. As long as its semi easy to program. Cause I want to setup the left side with arrow key's + number keys from the top.. perhaps some other strange Additional keys. Thanks ok I keep track of what numbers are what cause... there a couple of case colors I really like. I am sure they will all hit MOT. There is one other question I wanted to ask will the PCB/Plate Support Screw in stabs and also plate mounted stabs? That way I can plan what I need to buy! Thanks I be watching this extremely closely the more I think about ditching my razor mouse! the happier I become.
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:44:44
wanted to keep track of this cause seriously thinking might need one as the ultimate MMO gaming board. I am thinking since its QMK.. programmable.. I can set up the num pad as a micro pad. Then re-map the keys to be numbers plus wasd and any other skills I use! thought eliminating the need for the crappy MMO mouse that I really don't like. I a quick question is the cases your selling the aluminum ones are MOQ per case are all cases as far as color goes?
It comes on TMK and will have a preset on tkg.io but you can port it to QMK as far as I am concerned. I'll have to try it out when I have time.
The aluminum ones have MOQ set by color since those are the minimum number of cases the factory is willing to anodize at a given time.
Thanks and QMK sounds like it most likely be as easy to setup I think been to that site before. As long as its semi easy to program. Cause I want to setup the left side with arrow key's + number keys from the top.. perhaps some other strange Additional keys. Thanks ok I keep track of what numbers are what cause... there a couple of case colors I really like. I am sure they will all hit MOT. There is one other question I wanted to ask will the PCB/Plate Support Screw in stabs and also plate mounted stabs? That way I can plan what I need to buy! Thanks I be watching this extremely closely the more I think about ditching my razor mouse! the happier I become.
The tmk firmware can be done on a variant of that same site, here: http://kb.sized.io/
TMK is a branch of QMK and afaik, some of the pins on the ATmega32u4 are mapped a little differently so you would need to look at that. This board runs off of the kimera controller designed by Kai Ryu and it's easiest to use TKG which is basically the same thing, but without the visuals. I'll have the matrix mapping up as soon as I can.
The plates don't take plate mount stabs because of how it's a universal plate for all the layouts. Screw and snap-in stabs will work for this.
Post by: superdoedoe on Wed, 01 November 2017, 21:54:46
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Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 02 November 2017, 00:06:56
IF i didn't want to order through taobao, could the aussies buy off the NA shop as well?
Yeah, that works too. Just keep in mind shipping will be a little higher
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 02 November 2017, 00:10:46
Is the PCB SMD-led compatible?
The PCB is not per-key SMD LED compatible. There are SMD LEDs for the underglow though.
Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 02 November 2017, 00:17:06
Then I have one more question the bent case is the only one that would offer SMD Shine thought guessing from what I can see... how sturdy would that case be and how study would the USB connector be? I never used bent plate but kinda like the idea of having the SMD shine thought. Also whats the weight like on a bent case. Once again sorry like 300 questions
Post by: GreyAmbience on Thu, 02 November 2017, 11:51:29
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The PCB comes fully pre-soldered and in a green color.
I thought the PCB would be black or white?
Post by: kiwi99 on Thu, 02 November 2017, 14:21:37
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 02 November 2017, 18:26:23
Looking good, in for an integrated steel case & pcb, how will the holes on the integrated case be for the cone feet? 2 seperate holes for 8 & 11deg?
I'll have them cut it as a slot in the same fashion as the CNC case. The angles are a really rough estimate, but I'll see if I can measure them again sometime today.
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 02 November 2017, 18:33:14
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Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 02 November 2017, 22:15:29
No acrylic on the cases?
Just on the bent plate. The integrated case is closed all around and the aluminum case is CNC'd from a single block, so no acrylic on those.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 02 November 2017, 22:16:55
Can I submit a second order for add-on parts later during the group buy? I know I'd like to buy the bent plate & PCB kit + stabilizers but I'm not sure what switches I'd like to go with yet.
Best if you submit the whole order at one time. Makes organization much easier for me. :thumb:
Post by: MKULTRA on Thu, 02 November 2017, 22:26:02
I sent an email on this but since you're in here, it says on the website that you will be restocking the EEPW84 aluminum cases at the end of the month. Is that including the black ones with acrylic insert?No acrylic on the cases?
Just on the bent plate. The integrated case is closed all around and the aluminum case is CNC'd from a single block, so no acrylic on those.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Fri, 03 November 2017, 01:32:02
Post by: KorbenDallas on Fri, 03 November 2017, 01:59:02
Anyone have experience or input with handling AI raw?
Post by: HotRoderX on Fri, 03 November 2017, 02:41:53
count me in :thumb: . I am taking somewhat of a gamble with the raw case i feel. I prefer the look of the raw over the colors, so i tried doing some research as to how raw aluminum would hold up over time i.e corrosion resilience/discoloration but wasn't completely sure. I figure i could give vinyl wrapping a try later down the line if it begins to lose its good looks.
Anyone have experience or input with handling AI raw?
Don't quote me on this but couldn't you just use clear coat on it? I would think that protect it but once again I don't know. I just know you can clear coat most things to protect them against issues.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Fri, 03 November 2017, 02:45:28
count me in :thumb: . I am taking somewhat of a gamble with the raw case i feel. I prefer the look of the raw over the colors, so i tried doing some research as to how raw aluminum would hold up over time i.e corrosion resilience/discoloration but wasn't completely sure. I figure i could give vinyl wrapping a try later down the line if it begins to lose its good looks.I had a pok3r alu case that I sand blasted to raw alu. It looses a little shine over time but generally looks awesome.
Anyone have experience or input with handling AI raw?
I'm also getting the raw case, I think it looks great, and with a raw case you can always have it sanded, sand blasted, anodized or brushed later if it starts to look boring. I like the look of pls metal though.
I really wish there were a brass plate in the gb.
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 03 November 2017, 03:09:56
I sent an email on this but since you're in here, it says on the website that you will be restocking the EEPW84 aluminum cases at the end of the month. Is that including the black ones with acrylic insert?No acrylic on the cases?
Just on the bent plate. The integrated case is closed all around and the aluminum case is CNC'd from a single block, so no acrylic on those.
Just got to that email, but yes, it should be the black with the acrylic insert. iirc, we should have one or two of those when they come.
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 03 November 2017, 03:11:43
What color will the pcb be?
PCB will be white. I was a little concerned that it would stand out through the openings in the plate, but with the sentraq s65+ that I got last week, that doesn't seem to be the case so we'll definetly be going with white so that the underglow is a little more vibrant since it reflects a little better than the black PCB... or so it should.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Fri, 03 November 2017, 03:12:44
Awesome! That's great news. FYI the CandyKeys website says it will be green.What color will the pcb be?
PCB will be white. I was a little concerned that it would stand out through the openings in the plate, but with the sentraq s65+ that I got last week, that doesn't seem to be the case so we'll definetly be going with white so that the underglow is a little more vibrant since it reflects a little better than the black PCB... or so it should.
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 03 November 2017, 03:15:17
count me in :thumb: . I am taking somewhat of a gamble with the raw case i feel. I prefer the look of the raw over the colors, so i tried doing some research as to how raw aluminum would hold up over time i.e corrosion resilience/discoloration but wasn't completely sure. I figure i could give vinyl wrapping a try later down the line if it begins to lose its good looks.
Anyone have experience or input with handling AI raw?
I had a raw mountain bike frame a few months back and it seemed to hold it's color pretty well. It was around 3 or 4 years old and was pretty much ridden in the rain and mud by the old owner and it doesn't look tarnished. The color of the aluminum was definitely different though. It developed the usual bluish oxidization which gives a frosted look of sorts but maintains the texture and all.
Just keep in mind that this was on a mountain bike, exposed to water, mud, and probably left in the elements from time to time.
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 03 November 2017, 03:15:56
Awesome! That's great news. FYI the CandyKeys website says it will be green.What color will the pcb be?
PCB will be white. I was a little concerned that it would stand out through the openings in the plate, but with the sentraq s65+ that I got last week, that doesn't seem to be the case so we'll definetly be going with white so that the underglow is a little more vibrant since it reflects a little better than the black PCB... or so it should.
Ah, I'll talk to david at candykeys about that and get it fixed asap. Thanks for the heads up!
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 03 November 2017, 05:47:17
Post by: GreyAmbience on Fri, 03 November 2017, 05:59:21
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.I was originally planning this, cause laser has so many awesome keys you can put on the extra places on this layout, but then I got godspeed from the keything massdrop had a few days ago so now I'm doing a godspeed build I guess :)
Post by: Asbrodeus on Fri, 03 November 2017, 06:15:30
Post by: graefeln on Fri, 03 November 2017, 16:38:25
curious why you don't have paypal as an option or at least I didn't see it.
This. I will probably buy into this if PP becomes an option; just easier to use my balance.
Post by: KorbenDallas on Fri, 03 November 2017, 19:56:05
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.I was originally planning this, cause laser has so many awesome keys you can put on the extra places on this layout, but then I got godspeed from the keything massdrop had a few days ago so now I'm doing a godspeed build I guess :)
That was my initial plan but ended up deciding on this with Nautilus, currently trying to talk myself out of Gmk Laser (Kobe+Blocknet) but its not working so well :))
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 03 November 2017, 21:16:27
curious why you don't have paypal as an option or at least I didn't see it.
This. I will probably buy into this if PP becomes an option; just easier to use my balance.
The issue with paypal is that the funds are withheld for 30 days after the transaction goes through which adds another 5 weeks to the GB timeline since I'm at the cap for this month from selling a bike to a someone. Didn't think of this when I was selling the bike :(
If you would like, I can go ahead and send you a paypal invoice and have you pay that, then manually enter an order into the system. This would mean I would have to put some of my own money from my bank account into the buy then waiting for the payment to clear and then replacing it, but not too keen on doing that.
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 03 November 2017, 21:18:01
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.
Joined the laser GB today. Pretty crazy how it's already hit the third price break, but it's gonna be a long wait... the GB hasn't even closed yet.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sat, 04 November 2017, 01:12:58
I'm trying to figure out if gaijin, blocknet and mitowaves can cover this boardLooking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.
Joined the laser GB today. Pretty crazy how it's already hit the third price break, but it's gonna be a long wait... the GB hasn't even closed yet.
So I don't have to buy the base
Post by: Bubblegum on Sat, 04 November 2017, 03:32:07
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.
Joined the laser GB today. Pretty crazy how it's already hit the third price break, but it's gonna be a long wait... the GB hasn't even closed yet.
Will join both groupbuys next week when I get paid! Expecting the base kit and novelties to go down further for sure. On another note; what kind of USB connectivity does the Southpaw use? Mini or Micro? I may have skipped over that info somewhere.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 04 November 2017, 04:43:51
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.
Joined the laser GB today. Pretty crazy how it's already hit the third price break, but it's gonna be a long wait... the GB hasn't even closed yet.
Will join both groupbuys next week when I get paid! Expecting the base kit and novelties to go down further for sure. On another note; what kind of USB connectivity does the Southpaw use? Mini or Micro? I may have skipped over that info somewhere.
Realized that I missed that. It should be mini USB. I'll update the product page tomorrow morning.
Post by: Bubblegum on Sat, 04 November 2017, 06:21:50
Looking forward to pairing Southpaw with Laser. I bet I'm not the only one. I think it would go really well together with the black alu case.
Joined the laser GB today. Pretty crazy how it's already hit the third price break, but it's gonna be a long wait... the GB hasn't even closed yet.
Will join both groupbuys next week when I get paid! Expecting the base kit and novelties to go down further for sure. On another note; what kind of USB connectivity does the Southpaw use? Mini or Micro? I may have skipped over that info somewhere.
Realized that I missed that. It should be mini USB. I'll update the product page tomorrow morning.
Thanks! Pretty excited about this. Only bought pre-built and never soldered before. But I'm sure I can manage it when the time comes :)
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Sat, 04 November 2017, 18:21:42
thanks any and all for the help!
Post by: HotRoderX on Sat, 04 November 2017, 18:30:00
Never built a keeb before so maybe this is stupid, but for the bent plate kit, do i still need to get stabilizers? and if I buy purple LED's, would those be put on the underside of the PCB for a purple underglow? I saw that the PCB has underglow but I still not sure if that means I need to provide the LED's for said underglow!
thanks any and all for the help!
Don't quote me on this but 99.9% sure you wouldn't need to add LED's for the under glow. it should be pre soldered with SMD's. I think thats what there called... and you would need stabilizers that I know for a fact. I am not sure thought if you need plate are pcb stabilizers are if it matter.
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 04 November 2017, 21:00:05
Post by: euphxenos on Sat, 04 November 2017, 21:53:46
AU and NZ on Taobao??? I don't speak Chinese! I can't order from there? Can I use the USA proxy?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2516180#msg2516180
Yes, but the shipping will be higher.
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 04 November 2017, 22:45:39
1) "85SP PCB" = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - PCB;
2) "Stainless steel closure shell 85SP"= GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Integrated Case;
3) "85SP stainless steel are bend nuda" :) = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Bent Plate MX.
Having to translate Taobao in English is so frustrating.
Post by: euphxenos on Sat, 04 November 2017, 23:25:29
Can anyone confirm the translation from Chinese on Taobao:
1) "85SP PCB" = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - PCB;
2) "Stainless steel closure shell 85SP"= GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Integrated Case;
3) "85SP stainless steel are bend nuda" :) = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Bent Plate MX.
Having to translate Taobao in English is so frustrating.
I'm looking at it with Google translate. I believe the Taobao options are:
"85SP PCB" = the PCB only (no case)
"85SP anodized aluminum housing" = the anodized aluminum case (no pcb, no plate)
"85SP MX stainless steel positioning plate" = cherry MX plate for the aluminum case, in stainless steel
"85SP ALPS stainless steel positioning plate" = alps plate for the aluminum case, in stainless steel
"85SP stainless steel bending light shell" = bent plate case
"85SP stainless steel enclosure" = integrated steel case
If you click on each of the options on the Taobao page to see the price, the prices for each item match the switchplate.co prices, so you can double check the translations that way.
Post by: Darknight00z on Sun, 05 November 2017, 16:22:44
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 05 November 2017, 20:21:46
Does the PCB support holtite?
No holtites for this once since the pads are oval to accommodate alps and mx switches.
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Sun, 05 November 2017, 21:02:34
Post by: flying1911 on Mon, 06 November 2017, 00:47:13
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:31:15
There's no distinction between the MX bent plate and ALPS bent plate in the Taobao link as in the Switchplate link. I would like some clarification before submitting the order. I'm going for the MX option by the way.
The taobao page won't have any links for colors or specs. You'll have to make an order with the respective items and put in the comment section for which exact plate you want. I know it's not really that well designed but it was slightly rushed as I wanted to get the GB moving.
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:34:50
There's no distinction between the MX bent plate and ALPS bent plate in the Taobao link as in the Switchplate link. I would like some clarification before submitting the order. I'm going for the MX option by the way.
The taobao page won't have any links for colors or specs. You'll have to make an order with the respective items and put in the comment section for which exact plate you want. I know it's not really that well designed but it was slightly rushed as I wanted to get the GB moving.
Any other alternatives for Australia? I don't want to use taobao . I can't read it. I had problems in the past with communication.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 06 November 2017, 19:36:34
There's no distinction between the MX bent plate and ALPS bent plate in the Taobao link as in the Switchplate link. I would like some clarification before submitting the order. I'm going for the MX option by the way.
The taobao page won't have any links for colors or specs. You'll have to make an order with the respective items and put in the comment section for which exact plate you want. I know it's not really that well designed but it was slightly rushed as I wanted to get the GB moving.
Any other alternatives for Australia? I don't want to use taobao . I can't read it. I had problems in the past with communication.
I'm willing to take international orders through switchplate, but just keep in mind that the taobao proxy is there to keep shipping costs down. If you don't mind paying a little more for shipping, I can take your order and ship it to you from the US.
Post by: ChitownM2 on Mon, 06 November 2017, 22:22:11
Is it GMK sets that only have centered 6u and the other profiles are usually offset? Can't remember right now.
Post by: Fiery on Tue, 07 November 2017, 02:55:51
Post by: llisandro on Tue, 07 November 2017, 05:41:59
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Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 07 November 2017, 08:21:35
Where is the switch located for the 6u spacebar layout? Is it center stem or offset?
Is it GMK sets that only have centered 6u and the other profiles are usually offset? Can't remember right now.
GMK has used offset until some recent sets which started offering centered. For DSA, it is center stemmed but the stabilizer stems are much closer together than standard. XDA is offset. Dunno of any other MX profiles with 6u bars.
In any case I think it'd be better to just use the 7u bar since compatibility is much easier.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 07 November 2017, 17:14:42
Where is the switch located for the 6u spacebar layout? Is it center stem or offset?
Is it GMK sets that only have centered 6u and the other profiles are usually offset? Can't remember right now.
GMK has used offset until some recent sets which started offering centered. For DSA, it is center stemmed but the stabilizer stems are much closer together than standard. XDA is offset. Dunno of any other MX profiles with 6u bars.
In any case I think it'd be better to just use the 7u bar since compatibility is much easier.
DCS has 6u, with options for both centered and offset.
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 07 November 2017, 22:52:04
Can you do mixed layouts like short left shift, and ansi enter? And split space bar is that possible?
Yeah, you can mix and match with layouts. We couldn't do a split shift since we needed space for the controller where one of the switches for the split space would be.
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 08 November 2017, 04:08:11
Just contact our support team and we will provide you.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 08 November 2017, 04:55:32
Guys, regarding underglow, we have the required strips for it.Could you explain what you are taking about? I thought the underglow was pre-installed?
Just contact our support team and we will provide you.
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 08 November 2017, 09:36:26
Guys, regarding underglow, we have the required strips for it.Could you explain what you are taking about? I thought the underglow was pre-installed?
Just contact our support team and we will provide you.
Let me check with the designer tonight, from what I understood is that it has Underglow support and not already installed meaning there are 4 pins that you need to connect the strips to and install on the bottom of the PCB
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 08 November 2017, 16:51:43
Guys, regarding underglow, we have the required strips for it.Could you explain what you are taking about? I thought the underglow was pre-installed?
Just contact our support team and we will provide you.
The underglow is pre-soldered as SMD LEDs when all the other SMD components are installed. There is an option to install additional LEDs through output pads on the board. The controller supports up to 32 LEDs.
Post by: speaktobrett on Fri, 10 November 2017, 23:00:58
The underglow is pre-soldered as SMD LEDs when all the other SMD components are installed. There is an option to install additional LEDs through output pads on the board. The controller supports up to 32 LEDs.
Not that this probably matters yet, but can you individually configure each smd led to have like a rainbow effect?
Similar to this?
(https://i.imgur.com/hhpypac.jpg)
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 11 November 2017, 20:53:30
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 13 November 2017, 01:17:55
Post by: Phile Newbean on Mon, 13 November 2017, 11:56:42
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 14 November 2017, 18:56:35
GB ist Open till first of December right? I'd have to wait for my paycheck :D
Yep! Open till the first of December. The earlier you get your order in, the better. If we meet MOQ before the GB period ends, I can start production early and shorten the wait time.
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 14 November 2017, 18:57:51
What are the dimensions of the cases? Particularly the bent plate one. I'm looking to buy a palm rest for the keyboard but what are some good dimensions that will fit this keyboard without being to short/long?
Roughly 385mm wide and 15mm tall
Post by: _rubik on Thu, 16 November 2017, 13:25:31
As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?
Post by: tuxkey on Thu, 16 November 2017, 14:14:08
but i'm waiting for my dream layout.. nothing bigger than this for me.. TMK compatible of course..
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Post by: GreyAmbience on Sat, 18 November 2017, 00:14:35
Post by: OfTheWild on Sat, 18 November 2017, 04:19:30
Post by: a_ak57 on Sat, 18 November 2017, 12:40:36
Post by: euphxenos on Sat, 18 November 2017, 17:20:11
I have to say, I'm pretty disappointed that the Alps options are thoroughly DOA. Was hoping to have the ability to throw some Matias Quiet Clicks in this to use as a work board, but guess it wasn't meant to be.
I wouldn't say the Alps options are all completely dead just yet. One of the issues with this group buy is that there are so many options, which makes it impossible for the least popular options to meet MOQ, but if you can convince those buyers to move over onto more popular options, then you can meet MOQ. To give an example of what I mean, right now the Alps compatible plates have 2 orders in stainless, 2 in black aluminum, 1 in purple aluminum, and none in any of the other options for alps plates. I don't think there's any chance of the stainless (at 2 out of 30) or purple aluminum (at 1 out of 8 ) meeting MOQ. I'm planning on ordering two black Alps plates, which gets it to 4 out of an 8 MOQ. If we can convince the two stainless orders and 1 purple order to get black aluminum, then all it takes is one more black alps aluminum plate order to meet MOQ, and we all win.
In fact, I just placed my order, so black aluminum Alps plates should be at least 4/8 the next time the table gets updated. If you're thinking of ordering an Alps plate, I'd suggest getting black.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 18 November 2017, 22:28:28
I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger, but I am debating between the solid alu case and the bent case. Bent looks like a really nice low-budget alternative, but I feel like it'll flex like crazy. I'm also worried about the weight. Is there any noticeable flex? How much does it weigh fully assembled?
As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?
At the moment, all I have for the alu cases are the color samples, but yeah, you'd have to sorta use your imagination for those.
As for the bent plate, there's not really that much noticeable flex, but compared to an aluminum case, the aluminum case has a completely different feel when typing. The key is that with the bent plate, you should build it with PCB mount switches. It makes all the difference in the world if you ask me.
Comparing the bent plates themselves, it's not much more flexible when you push down in the middle compared to a shorter 75 percent board since the cutouts on the front and back were reduced quite a bit to compensate for the length of the case.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 18 November 2017, 22:34:07
I have to say, I'm pretty disappointed that the Alps options are thoroughly DOA. Was hoping to have the ability to throw some Matias Quiet Clicks in this to use as a work board, but guess it wasn't meant to be.
I wouldn't say the Alps options are all completely dead just yet. One of the issues with this group buy is that there are so many options, which makes it impossible for the least popular options to meet MOQ, but if you can convince those buyers to move over onto more popular options, then you can meet MOQ. To give an example of what I mean, right now the Alps compatible plates have 2 orders in stainless, 2 in black aluminum, 1 in purple aluminum, and none in any of the other options for alps plates. I don't think there's any chance of the stainless (at 2 out of 30) or purple aluminum (at 1 out of 8 ) meeting MOQ. I'm planning on ordering two black Alps plates, which gets it to 4 out of an 8 MOQ. If we can convince the two stainless orders and 1 purple order to get black aluminum, then all it takes is one more black alps aluminum plate order to meet MOQ, and we all win.
In fact, I just placed my order, so black aluminum Alps plates should be at least 4/8 the next time the table gets updated. If you're thinking of ordering an Alps plate, I'd suggest getting black.
Hey man, I got your order, Really appreciate it and this really helps the MOQ.
As far as the MOQ for alps boards, it looks like I might have to email everyone at the end and see if they want to move their order to the black anodized aluminum Alps plate. The only small issue I find is that the black aluminum plate is a few dollars more expensive compared to the stainless steel options, but I hope that people don't mind paying a few more dollars or giving up a color in order to make MOQ. If there are one or two plates that are left, I will definitely be getting at least 2 or 3 to keep in stock and one for myself as I'm leaning towards building one up with quiet clicks or SKCM blues.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 18 November 2017, 22:36:46
I got this question from a redditor: "What if I buy the PCB and the bent case. The PCB eventually make MOQ but the bent case doesn’t?"
At the moment, what I'm thinking is that I'll most likely have people from the integrated case choose between the bent case and the aluminum case if the MOQ isn't met for both. As for the rest of the order, I'll most likely dig into my own pocket and buy out the rest of the bent cases since I am pretty set on making the entry price point of 95 bucks a reality.
Post by: _rubik on Mon, 20 November 2017, 11:54:20
I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger, but I am debating between the solid alu case and the bent case. Bent looks like a really nice low-budget alternative, but I feel like it'll flex like crazy. I'm also worried about the weight. Is there any noticeable flex? How much does it weigh fully assembled?
As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?
At the moment, all I have for the alu cases are the color samples, but yeah, you'd have to sorta use your imagination for those.
As for the bent plate, there's not really that much noticeable flex, but compared to an aluminum case, the aluminum case has a completely different feel when typing. The key is that with the bent plate, you should build it with PCB mount switches. It makes all the difference in the world if you ask me.
Comparing the bent plates themselves, it's not much more flexible when you push down in the middle compared to a shorter 75 percent board since the cutouts on the front and back were reduced quite a bit to compensate for the length of the case.
Thanks for getting back to me. I know this is entirely personal opinion, so indulge me anyway. Does the bent plate have an appealing feel.... Again, it's completely up to personal preference, but I worry that it'll feel a little light, cheap, etc? Does it hold it's own against the alu case, or is it really just a 'poor mans' option.
I say 'poor mans' in quotes... I do see the irony there.
Post by: kiwi99 on Mon, 20 November 2017, 11:58:08
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 20 November 2017, 22:28:33
I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger, but I am debating between the solid alu case and the bent case. Bent looks like a really nice low-budget alternative, but I feel like it'll flex like crazy. I'm also worried about the weight. Is there any noticeable flex? How much does it weigh fully assembled?
As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?
At the moment, all I have for the alu cases are the color samples, but yeah, you'd have to sorta use your imagination for those.
As for the bent plate, there's not really that much noticeable flex, but compared to an aluminum case, the aluminum case has a completely different feel when typing. The key is that with the bent plate, you should build it with PCB mount switches. It makes all the difference in the world if you ask me.
Comparing the bent plates themselves, it's not much more flexible when you push down in the middle compared to a shorter 75 percent board since the cutouts on the front and back were reduced quite a bit to compensate for the length of the case.
Thanks for getting back to me. I know this is entirely personal opinion, so indulge me anyway. Does the bent plate have an appealing feel.... Again, it's completely up to personal preference, but I worry that it'll feel a little light, cheap, etc? Does it hold it's own against the alu case, or is it really just a 'poor mans' option.
I say 'poor mans' in quotes... I do see the irony there.
I would say that the bent plate is definitely not a "poor man's" option. It's more of a feel preference imo. I don't know how to put it, but comparing an xd84 on a bent plate with a CNC case (same build; PCB mount gat blues, etc...), they're very different. There is of course still flex in the aluminum case from the plate and pcb flexing between the mount points, but on the bent case, it's a different kind of flex. Both of these aren't really noticeable, but you can tell when you use the two of them side by side. They feel ever so slightly different on bottom out and the sound is definitely different. My word of advice would be to build with PCB mount switches regardless of whichever option you get since I've had a lot of success with that on all the builds I've completed that way.
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 21 November 2017, 22:27:22
We're two weeks in with two weeks to go. 10 more orders to MOQ. Lets do this.
Small changes have been made so everyone is aware. The biggest change is the redesign on the risers and bottom of the case. After some review, there wasn't enough material on the front of the 4 degree riser to accommodate a screw so we reversed the design with the case being threaded and the side with the riser taking the screw. The risers have also been slightly redesigned so that the legs would sit flush with the bottom chamfer of the case.
ATTENTION ASIA AND OCEANIA CUSTOMERS
After some talking with KP, we decided to go another route with the orders that were placed in non-chinese speaking parts of asia and oceania. Please order on the switchplate peripherals website and pick the "Asia/Oceania Dropship" option. We will bill you for shipping afterwards. To get a quick idea of how much shipping will be, we're using SF express which is insanely faster and insanely better than epacket since we don't have enough constant volume for the DHL reduced rate shipping. Check shipping costs at the link below. Rough weights for the each item will also be posted below, but just keep in mind that packaging will add to volumetric weight and space.
These orders will be processed by me, then the orders will be forwarded to KP, the same vendor on Taobao and shipped by them. The items are shipping out of Beijing and will be shipped around the same time as the US and EU orders.
AL Case - 900g
Bent Plate - 480g
Integrated Case - 900g
PCB - 150g
Stainless Steel Plate - 125g
Aluminum Plate - 80g
http://www.sf-express.com/cn/en/dynamic_function/price/ (http://www.sf-express.com/cn/en/dynamic_function/price/)
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 21 November 2017, 23:11:33
Can anyone confirm the translation from Chinese on Taobao:
1) "85SP PCB" = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - PCB;
2) "Stainless steel closure shell 85SP"= GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Integrated Case;
3) "85SP stainless steel are bend nuda" :) = GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Bent Plate MX.
Having to translate Taobao in English is so frustrating.
If you haven't ordered yet, I've gone to a different system. Check my post above this.
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 22 November 2017, 22:56:42
I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger, but I am debating between the solid alu case and the bent case. Bent looks like a really nice low-budget alternative, but I feel like it'll flex like crazy. I'm also worried about the weight. Is there any noticeable flex? How much does it weigh fully assembled?
As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?
At the moment, all I have for the alu cases are the color samples, but yeah, you'd have to sorta use your imagination for those.
As for the bent plate, there's not really that much noticeable flex, but compared to an aluminum case, the aluminum case has a completely different feel when typing. The key is that with the bent plate, you should build it with PCB mount switches. It makes all the difference in the world if you ask me.
Comparing the bent plates themselves, it's not much more flexible when you push down in the middle compared to a shorter 75 percent board since the cutouts on the front and back were reduced quite a bit to compensate for the length of the case.
Thanks for getting back to me. I know this is entirely personal opinion, so indulge me anyway. Does the bent plate have an appealing feel.... Again, it's completely up to personal preference, but I worry that it'll feel a little light, cheap, etc? Does it hold it's own against the alu case, or is it really just a 'poor mans' option.
I say 'poor mans' in quotes... I do see the irony there.
I would say that the bent plate is definitely not a "poor man's" option. It's more of a feel preference imo. I don't know how to put it, but comparing an xd84 on a bent plate with a CNC case (same build; PCB mount gat blues, etc...), they're very different. There is of course still flex in the aluminum case from the plate and pcb flexing between the mount points, but on the bent case, it's a different kind of flex. Both of these aren't really noticeable, but you can tell when you use the two of them side by side. They feel ever so slightly different on bottom out and the sound is definitely different. My word of advice would be to build with PCB mount switches regardless of whichever option you get since I've had a lot of success with that on all the builds I've completed that way.
Would you mind elaborating more about having "more success" with PCB mount switches than plate mount. What do you mean by that? Do you mean switch alignment etc...
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 23 November 2017, 01:24:01
I'm pretty much ready to pull the trigger, but I am debating between the solid alu case and the bent case. Bent looks like a really nice low-budget alternative, but I feel like it'll flex like crazy. I'm also worried about the weight. Is there any noticeable flex? How much does it weigh fully assembled?
As for the alu cases: do we have any photos of the non-raw options, or do we have to use our imagination from the alu samples?
At the moment, all I have for the alu cases are the color samples, but yeah, you'd have to sorta use your imagination for those.
As for the bent plate, there's not really that much noticeable flex, but compared to an aluminum case, the aluminum case has a completely different feel when typing. The key is that with the bent plate, you should build it with PCB mount switches. It makes all the difference in the world if you ask me.
Comparing the bent plates themselves, it's not much more flexible when you push down in the middle compared to a shorter 75 percent board since the cutouts on the front and back were reduced quite a bit to compensate for the length of the case.
Thanks for getting back to me. I know this is entirely personal opinion, so indulge me anyway. Does the bent plate have an appealing feel.... Again, it's completely up to personal preference, but I worry that it'll feel a little light, cheap, etc? Does it hold it's own against the alu case, or is it really just a 'poor mans' option.
I say 'poor mans' in quotes... I do see the irony there.
I would say that the bent plate is definitely not a "poor man's" option. It's more of a feel preference imo. I don't know how to put it, but comparing an xd84 on a bent plate with a CNC case (same build; PCB mount gat blues, etc...), they're very different. There is of course still flex in the aluminum case from the plate and pcb flexing between the mount points, but on the bent case, it's a different kind of flex. Both of these aren't really noticeable, but you can tell when you use the two of them side by side. They feel ever so slightly different on bottom out and the sound is definitely different. My word of advice would be to build with PCB mount switches regardless of whichever option you get since I've had a lot of success with that on all the builds I've completed that way.
Would you mind elaborating more about having "more success" with PCB mount switches than plate mount. What do you mean by that? Do you mean switch alignment etc...
A wall of text ahead, but I'm not sure how to explain it without going in-depth
So taking from what I've built, with plate mount switches, the interface of the switch and plate vary because of how the tolerances vary from manufacture to manufacture and from run to run. Some switches fit loosely in the plate (older Kailhs) and some fit really really tight (New Otemu pros). If you have tighter switches, no problem, but when you have looser ones, alignment starts to become an issue. Optimally, it's a press-fit (rather than slip fit) interface between the PCB and the switch. for PCB mount switches. This is one of the advantages that I've found.
Alignment also is much easier with kits that have universal plates. A good example would be the break/backslash key right above the enter. Since most plates that are universal are cut out for the ISO stab too, the only support is at the top left corner where the switch doesn't "lock in" since the two tabs at the top and bottom don't make contact. This also creates a sort of vertical alignment (think z axis) issue in addition to having it aligned horizontally (think x and y axis).
As far as vertical alignment is concerned, most PCB mount switches help with this. This really depends on the tolerance of the switch housings and the size of the PCB mount holes on the PCB itself. Most of the switches, if you've noticed have four small nubs on each corner of the switch housing on the bottom. Those should sit right on the PCB itself. If the switch/PCB interface well with each other, you should have to push the switch into position with a little bit of force. This causes the extra aligning legs to bite into the PCB and keep the switch there. If the switch is seated all the way, then the four little nubs should sit right on the PCB without any room between. This though, doesn't work if the PCB and switch housing don't mesh well together. You can usually tell if you press the switch into the PCB and it falls out when you turn it upside down.
On the other hand, with plate mount switches, you're relying on the plate to provide the vertical alignment and make sure that all four nubs are in contact with the PCB. The issue here is that the only thing holding it to the PCB are the solder contacts as well as the center round thing on the bottom of the switch. Most of the time (in my experience) doesn't interface all that well with the PCB and doesn't provide that same "holding" force it does with PCB mount legs. This means that when you are soldering the switch in, you basically have to compress the switch and the PCB in order to make sure that the four nubs on the corners are sitting all the way flush with the PCB. This is a pain in the ass to do. Even moreso if you have to manually align the switches so that it's straight, horizontally as I mentioned above.
As far as stiffness, I think it might be all relative. Or maybe there's science behind it. I don't know, but building with the PCB mount switches on the XD84 bent plate as opposed to the plate mount switches has given me a sturdier feel. I would say this is from the support coming from both the PCB and the plate since the bottom of the switch is being held by the two tabs mounting the switch housing to the plate and the PCB mount legs, in addition to the soldered contact points holding the four nubs down against the PCB. I guess that last point is also applicable if you build your board really well and make sure that the switch is held down against the PCB as mentioned above.
Some issues with this are that if you're kinda going for a quicker build, you can't just pop all the switches into the plate real quick and line it up with the PCB. You need to go one-by-one pushing them into the plate and PCB at the same time, making sure that the switch is seated all the way. Because of the force you need to push the damn switches into the PCB combined with the force it takes to push the switches into the plate, you can't really feel if the terminals (I think that's the term) aren't aligned with the thru holes and you end up with completely bent ones that don't make it through the PCB out to the other side. If you try to apply the same method that you use with plate mount switches (populating the plate, then just aligning with the PCB) you end up with the issue of the two extra PCB mount legs requiring too much force to press into the PCB itself since now, instead of needing enough force to press one into the PCB, they're all connected together and basically impossible to press into the PCB. You then either end up with either/both PCB and plate not being flat since it's damn impossible to apply all the force you need to press all the pins into the PCB at once.
Uhhh... and take this with a grain of salt since I haven't exactly tried this with all the combos that would make a difference.
Post by: Phile Newbean on Thu, 23 November 2017, 02:05:37
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 23 November 2017, 22:44:45
What are some nice, cheap keycaps that fits this keyboard perfectly? Blanks while cheap are a bit too plain for me.
There's sometimes a dyesub set by Robo that gets run by MD sometimes that around 30 bucks and is thick PBT that works really well. Basically, anything that has 65% compatibility and a numpad should work.
Post by: Myth on Sun, 26 November 2017, 12:15:32
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 28 November 2017, 02:09:22
What are some nice, cheap keycaps that fits this keyboard perfectly? Blanks while cheap are a bit too plain for me.
They're actually running them right now. Linked them below.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/133-key-pbt-cherry-keycap-set
Post by: vinzlr on Tue, 28 November 2017, 10:37:59
Post by: Phile Newbean on Tue, 28 November 2017, 13:10:40
What are some nice, cheap keycaps that fits this keyboard perfectly? Blanks while cheap are a bit too plain for me.
They're actually running them right now. Linked them below.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/133-key-pbt-cherry-keycap-set
Nice! Thanks!
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 28 November 2017, 22:16:20
When do you think we can expect pictures of an anodized aluminum case?
I'm trying to see if we can get a pilot run together for anodization while still maintaining the timeline. Something that should've been worked out beforehand, but I still want to get it done nevertheless. Just keep an eye on this thread and I'll put a date or time up when I know.
Post by: ctrl on Wed, 29 November 2017, 08:16:29
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 30 November 2017, 00:46:05
Curious about the raw aluminum case with risers. Would it be suitable for powder coating later? Would the stainless steel plate be suitable for that too? (Because it would be nice with matching colors.)
The aluminum case should be fine to powdercoat as long as your careful and mask everything off (bottom of the risers, screw holes, pad recesses). The surface is exactly as it would be coming off of a CNC machine so depending on the powdercoat, you might or might not have to do some surface prep work.
The plate though would probably be more tricky depending on the powdercoat. If it's too thick of a layer, the switches won't fit into the cutouts.
Neat idea though. I was thinking about getting a white cerakote done on my product unit at some point.
Post by: ctrl on Thu, 30 November 2017, 01:20:00
Curious about the raw aluminum case with risers. Would it be suitable for powder coating later? Would the stainless steel plate be suitable for that too? (Because it would be nice with matching colors.)
The aluminum case should be fine to powdercoat as long as your careful and mask everything off (bottom of the risers, screw holes, pad recesses). The surface is exactly as it would be coming off of a CNC machine so depending on the powdercoat, you might or might not have to do some surface prep work.
The plate though would probably be more tricky depending on the powdercoat. If it's too thick of a layer, the switches won't fit into the cutouts.
Neat idea though. I was thinking about getting a white cerakote done on my product unit at some point.
Thanks for the heads up! Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have the time to check with local places regarding preparatory surface work before the drop ends. I really like the layout and the possible option of buying a raw case and then doing a custom finish is a very intriguing one. And one I haven't seen before.
It was precisely the option of a cerakote/powder coat in white/teal that attracted me to the raw option. :D
Will Southpaw make a comeback at a later point?
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 30 November 2017, 05:57:36
Curious about the raw aluminum case with risers. Would it be suitable for powder coating later? Would the stainless steel plate be suitable for that too? (Because it would be nice with matching colors.)
The aluminum case should be fine to powdercoat as long as your careful and mask everything off (bottom of the risers, screw holes, pad recesses). The surface is exactly as it would be coming off of a CNC machine so depending on the powdercoat, you might or might not have to do some surface prep work.
The plate though would probably be more tricky depending on the powdercoat. If it's too thick of a layer, the switches won't fit into the cutouts.
Neat idea though. I was thinking about getting a white cerakote done on my product unit at some point.
Thanks for the heads up! Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have the time to check with local places regarding preparatory surface work before the drop ends. I really like the layout and the possible option of buying a raw case and then doing a custom finish is a very intriguing one. And one I haven't seen before.
It was precisely the option of a cerakote/powder coat in white/teal that attracted me to the raw option. :D
Will Southpaw make a comeback at a later point?
No clue yet as if I'll be bringing this project back, but I have something else planned once this is finished...
Post by: ctrl on Thu, 30 November 2017, 11:11:45
No clue yet as if I'll be bringing this project back, but I have something else planned once this is finished...
Interesting! Might that include cerakote then perhaps?
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 01 December 2017, 00:42:09
No clue yet as if I'll be bringing this project back, but I have something else planned once this is finished...
Interesting! Might that include cerakote then perhaps?
Possibily, though, at the moment, it's some words on paper and a really rough cad model. Cerakote is a more expensive finish when compared to anodization since things that fit or thread into each other need to be masked off in order for things to work well with each other which is why I didn't offer it for this GB.
Post by: under.pk on Sat, 02 December 2017, 05:05:07
Post by: kiwi99 on Sat, 02 December 2017, 14:00:29
Post by: PRkeys on Sat, 02 December 2017, 14:40:43
Sent you a message on this! Hopefully you get it before the order is placed
Post by: captsis on Sat, 02 December 2017, 23:56:32
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 03 December 2017, 21:51:10
Damn I'm a day late!! Will there be extras?
There should be a handful of extras later on down the road. Not all colors and options will be available though.
Post by: KorbenDallas on Fri, 08 December 2017, 05:05:42
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 09 December 2017, 17:21:44
No email for stainless steel plate, so I’m guessing it passed MOQ? Sure hope this is the case either way can’t wait for this board :thumb:
Stainless steel plate is a go. Talked it over with manufacturing and they've said that they were willing to make just 20 of them since we have a fair amount of orders for the other items that they were producing.
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 11 December 2017, 11:54:08
I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?
Post by: kiwi99 on Mon, 11 December 2017, 22:56:48
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D
I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?
Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 18 December 2017, 18:46:15
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D
I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?
Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)
Nicey nice :).
Stock? Once you lube, there's no returning to stock.
Post by: kiwi99 on Mon, 18 December 2017, 21:53:26
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D
I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?
Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)
Nicey nice :).
Stock? Once you lube, there's no returning to stock.
eh, not sure how I feel about opening up that many box switches my switchtool sucks at opening these damn things :))
Post by: bmilcs on Thu, 21 December 2017, 05:29:26
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D
I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?
Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)
Nicey nice :).
Stock? Once you lube, there's no returning to stock.
eh, not sure how I feel about opening up that many box switches my switchtool sucks at opening these damn things :))
It requires a technique. You get the hang of it after doing a couple. I gave up on using those tools and now use 2 mini screwdrivers on the underside.
I have done ergoclears & lubed linears now... on over 5 full keyboards :X
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 21 December 2017, 23:29:53
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D
I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?
Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)
Nicey nice :).
Stock? Once you lube, there's no returning to stock.
eh, not sure how I feel about opening up that many box switches my switchtool sucks at opening these damn things :))
It requires a technique. You get the hang of it after doing a couple. I gave up on using those tools and now use 2 mini screwdrivers on the underside.
I have done ergoclears & lubed linears now... on over 5 full keyboards :X
For the Kailh and Outemu switch tops... i will tell you the trick is thumb nails. ;)
Post by: kiwi99 on Fri, 22 December 2017, 17:10:08
Pretty stoked on this board to come :). It is going to be incredibly good for my job, where I only have to take my hand off the mouse to enter numbers. Now, I'll be able to left handed numpad + navigate the mouse :D
I'm going with 65g lubed gat blacks. How about everyone else?
Think I'm going to try Kailh Box switches, probably the reds for the first time :)
Nicey nice :).
Stock? Once you lube, there's no returning to stock.
eh, not sure how I feel about opening up that many box switches my switchtool sucks at opening these damn things :))
It requires a technique. You get the hang of it after doing a couple. I gave up on using those tools and now use 2 mini screwdrivers on the underside.
I have done ergoclears & lubed linears now... on over 5 full keyboards :X
For the Kailh and Outemu switch tops... i will tell you the trick is thumb nails. ;)
something I have none of :mad:
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 23 December 2017, 22:45:30
(https://i.imgur.com/dwjH1Wx.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mCkmjjB.png)
Post by: Sylvestyeo on Mon, 25 December 2017, 12:49:46
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 28 December 2017, 18:20:59
is this expected to delay shipping? *hope not!*
Luckily, this won't delay shipping. I'm getting the pilot/QC run next week which has a few differences from the production units so when I have those on hand, I'll grab some photos.
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Mon, 08 January 2018, 09:31:24
What's the shipping estimate looking like at the moment?
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Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 10 January 2018, 03:13:18
Excited for this more than my XDA Godspeed!
What's the shipping estimate looking like at the moment?
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Shipping estimate looks to be at the earliest, end of this month if some miracle happens, but as far as production is looking, the laser cut steel stuff and the PCBs will be finished late this month, then shipped to me, so most likely early February. The aluminum cases will be finished a little later and if we don't run into any issues, those should be shipped to me right before the CNY week.
Post by: Myth on Wed, 10 January 2018, 23:29:05
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 16 January 2018, 23:45:47
(http://i.imgur.com/rrktWtP.jpg) (https://imgur.com/rrktWtP)
Post by: blue sky on Wed, 17 January 2018, 05:31:35
Can't wait for it :)
Post by: bmilcs on Fri, 19 January 2018, 15:28:12
Just Another little update if you haven't subscribed to the update emails or haven't checked the website, but things are moving along smoothly. Factory has finished the 5 cases of the QC batch and there were some issues with the hanging fixture being used in the anodization process so they've moved to a new fixture which should eliminate the issue. Apart from that, the CNC work has been finished on 30 of the 90 cases which are looking pretty good so far. We're just a mere month away from shipping these out so hang tight!
(http://i.imgur.com/rrktWtP.jpg) (https://imgur.com/rrktWtP)
Amazing man. Thank you for checking in.
Post by: bmilcs on Fri, 19 January 2018, 19:12:45
Post by: euphxenos on Fri, 19 January 2018, 19:29:19
Can someone please hook me up with the color samples from this group buy? I can't seem to find them.
I don't see them on the Switchplate site anymore, but the color samples are still shown on the Taobao listing, about a third of the way down the page:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=561011231718
Post by: bmilcs on Fri, 19 January 2018, 20:15:36
Can someone please hook me up with the color samples from this group buy? I can't seem to find them.
I don't see them on the Switchplate site anymore, but the color samples are still shown on the Taobao listing, about a third of the way down the page:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=561011231718
Thanks. Is the blue Cyan? I can't really tell because of the lighting. Or is it a light blue?
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 31 January 2018, 03:15:42
Post by: bmilcs on Wed, 31 January 2018, 09:22:08
Thank you for the heads up :p and appreciate being so quick with announcements.
Post by: kiwi99 on Wed, 31 January 2018, 18:09:58
pray for me
Thanks for the transparent update :thumb: glad to hear you're on top of it all.
Post by: karankshah on Sun, 04 February 2018, 11:08:41
This will be my first time putting together a board so looking forward to it. How will the firmware work? Specifically, it looks like you've put a lot of customizability into the board, so I don't think it's going to make sense for you to cover all the possibilities of key placements in presets. If somebody wants to go for an uncommon layout, how do they go about setting that up? Apologies if this is a noob question!
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 04 February 2018, 14:31:10
Long time lurker first time poster - thanks for the update! This is still looking like one of the fastest GB's I've been in, so not a concern at all.
This will be my first time putting together a board so looking forward to it. How will the firmware work? Specifically, it looks like you've put a lot of customizability into the board, so I don't think it's going to make sense for you to cover all the possibilities of key placements in presets. If somebody wants to go for an uncommon layout, how do they go about setting that up? Apologies if this is a noob question!
i think it's QMK, so just look up a guide for that
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 04 February 2018, 21:24:19
Long time lurker first time poster - thanks for the update! This is still looking like one of the fastest GB's I've been in, so not a concern at all.
This will be my first time putting together a board so looking forward to it. How will the firmware work? Specifically, it looks like you've put a lot of customizability into the board, so I don't think it's going to make sense for you to cover all the possibilities of key placements in presets. If somebody wants to go for an uncommon layout, how do they go about setting that up? Apologies if this is a noob question!
i think it's QMK, so just look up a guide for that
This one is TMK. I'll be posting the matrix map and everything else for you guys to put into tkg.io in a little bit.
Edit: Also, a lot of people are asking me for extras so I've linked a sort of reservation form below for extras.
https://goo.gl/forms/zFdTVwHD8Pjqf1rp2
Post by: online on Thu, 15 February 2018, 05:26:14
Few months too late...😞
Post by: kiwi99 on Thu, 15 February 2018, 13:55:55
Will there be any extra?
Few months too late...😞
Did you see the link in the post above? First step would be to fill that out :)
Post by: euphxenos on Thu, 01 March 2018, 02:37:57
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 01 March 2018, 12:37:17
You mentioned that you were working on inserts that would let us use PCB mount cherry stabs with alps keycaps. How are those coming along?
I have the design for those finished in CAD, but I have still yet to print them to test. I'll most likely upload those later for people to try out.
Post by: forumusername on Thu, 01 March 2018, 13:44:12
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Post by: daviddoctorrose on Thu, 01 March 2018, 16:41:44
I have the design for those finished in CAD, but I have still yet to print them to test. I'll most likely upload those later for people to try out.
very excited for that! I would love to do some experimenting/testing!
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 02 March 2018, 01:23:11
Does the Alps plate accept Alps style stabs?
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The alps plate doesn't take alps style stabs as the multiple layouts meant that the switch cutouts would overlap the alps stabilizer cutout on three sides.
That said, I have some alps inserts that are used with cherry PCB mount stab housings in the works. I want to test them before I release them or produce them.
Post by: bmilcs on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:36:49
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 03 March 2018, 19:55:47
@reconsiderit --- can you provide us with a link to programming the PCB? I really would love to develop a layout before receiving it.
Sure thing. It's basically just TKG where you use KLE to configure a layout then paste it into the compiler.
https://kai.tkg.io/
Go to the first section (General) which should be set to "Kimera - Default" and go to config. It's under presets and should be labeled "XD85"
Post by: karankshah on Mon, 05 March 2018, 11:35:35
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 05 March 2018, 17:57:42
Any chance you are planning to put together a KLE preset or something for it?
It will come flashed with a standard layout (standard 1.25/1.25/1.25/6.25/1/1/1 bottom row), akin to other 65% boards with the f row under the top number row, arrows under wasd, etc... I'll see if I can find the layout.
Post by: karankshah on Wed, 07 March 2018, 07:33:27
Any chance you are planning to put together a KLE preset or something for it?
It will come flashed with a standard layout (standard 1.25/1.25/1.25/6.25/1/1/1 bottom row), akin to other 65% boards with the f row under the top number row, arrows under wasd, etc... I'll see if I can find the layout.
Got it - if we're planning on customizing that out further (i.e., going with 3x1.25/6.25/2x1.5 bottom row) and then switching the numpad over to a full macropad, how would we set that up?
I assume that we would need to do a custom KLE and then generate a TMK firmware?Would there be more steps involved?
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 10 March 2018, 22:49:10
Any chance you are planning to put together a KLE preset or something for it?
It will come flashed with a standard layout (standard 1.25/1.25/1.25/6.25/1/1/1 bottom row), akin to other 65% boards with the f row under the top number row, arrows under wasd, etc... I'll see if I can find the layout.
Got it - if we're planning on customizing that out further (i.e., going with 3x1.25/6.25/2x1.5 bottom row) and then switching the numpad over to a full macropad, how would we set that up?
I assume that we would need to do a custom KLE and then generate a TMK firmware?Would there be more steps involved?
Yeah, that's about it. You create a KLE layout and compile it using TKG. You can then either flash it to the board directly from tkg using the chrome utility which you basically just install onto your browser, or if you want to flash it manually, you can do that too.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 10 March 2018, 23:09:31
Production for the PCBs are finishing up and they should be at the consolidation warehouse with everything else in the next few days. I'm still waiting for final package sizes from the warehouse so I can shop around for shipping quotes. My goal is to get all the packages picked up by a company from the warehouse sometime before next Friday. The earlier the better in this case. All the other items (cases, plates, small parts) are all there and waiting to ship. I've now gotten a pretty concrete timeline for everything now and have it at the bottom for those that want an idea of when they'll get their boards. Again, if anyone has any questions or concerns, certainly shoot me a PM or email and I'll try my best to get everything sorted out.
March 2 - Restart of PCB assembly
March 9 - Completion of PCB assembly
March 16 - Completion of consolidation and bulk packing
Late March (TBD) - Receive, sort and QC bulk shipment
Late March / Early April (TBD) - Pack and ship to customers
Mid / Late April (TBD) - Finish orders requiring assembly
I've also ordered and received all the packaging needed for the GB. It's taking up a ton of space in the garage. There are something like 300 boxes and 1000 feet of bubble wrap in that picture. As soon as everything arrives, I'll be ready to ship.
(https://i.imgur.com/e6ptRZR.jpg)
Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 08:36:14
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 13 March 2018, 08:59:47
Alright, sorry to leave everyone hanging on the updates, but I've been pretty busy with things these last few weeks.
Production for the PCBs are finishing up and they should be at the consolidation warehouse with everything else in the next few days. I'm still waiting for final package sizes from the warehouse so I can shop around for shipping quotes. My goal is to get all the packages picked up by a company from the warehouse sometime before next Friday. The earlier the better in this case. All the other items (cases, plates, small parts) are all there and waiting to ship. I've now gotten a pretty concrete timeline for everything now and have it at the bottom for those that want an idea of when they'll get their boards. Again, if anyone has any questions or concerns, certainly shoot me a PM or email and I'll try my best to get everything sorted out.
March 2 - Restart of PCB assembly
March 9 - Completion of PCB assembly
March 16 - Completion of consolidation and bulk packing
Late March (TBD) - Receive, sort and QC bulk shipment
Late March / Early April (TBD) - Pack and ship to customers
Mid / Late April (TBD) - Finish orders requiring assembly
I've also ordered and received all the packaging needed for the GB. It's taking up a ton of space in the garage. There are something like 300 boxes and 1000 feet of bubble wrap in that picture. As soon as everything arrives, I'll be ready to ship.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/e6ptRZR.jpg)
Hell yeah!
GBs from us will be shipped within 1 - 2 days of arrival from factory.
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:23:16
So regarding LEDs, is brightness actually controllable via TMK or is it just an "LEDs are either installed or not" type of deal?
As far as backlighting is concerned for each individual LED, TMK cycles through a number of preset modes. There is static low/med/high brightness in those preset modes. As for the underglow LEDs, you can set brightness and determine how you would like them to cycle.
Post by: MC_kb on Thu, 15 March 2018, 09:47:16
Can't wait to receive it.
Hell yeah!
GBs from us will be shipped within 1 - 2 days of arrival from factory.
Sweet !
How long can we expect the shipping to be (for western EU) ?
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 18 March 2018, 21:35:31
Also, alu cases...
(https://i.imgur.com/2vJ8xon.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rYrQbq4.jpg)
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 19 March 2018, 14:35:20
Post by: hoangvu95 on Tue, 20 March 2018, 14:39:05
Post by: clik_clak on Tue, 20 March 2018, 15:39:23
Post by: speaktobrett on Tue, 20 March 2018, 18:05:42
Just a small update here, nothing new, but everything has been packed up and QC'd at at the office in CN (It's monday in Beijing). I'm hoping I can get shipping sorted out asap and everything shipped to the US this week.
Also, alu cases...
They look beautiful!!
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 20 March 2018, 18:50:48
hmm so do the bent plate support switch top opening ?? So that can prepare and break-in/lube the switches b4 hand or not
Yeah, plates do support switch top opening
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 20 March 2018, 18:51:51
Any word at all if extras will be available in the US?
Yeah, there will be some extras. Fill out the form below and I'll get back to you once I sort and ship all GB orders.
https://goo.gl/forms/zFdTVwHD8Pjqf1rp2
Post by: PRkeys on Wed, 21 March 2018, 13:09:40
Post by: forumusername on Wed, 21 March 2018, 19:52:04
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Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 26 March 2018, 02:49:01
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 26 March 2018, 03:45:05
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Mon, 02 April 2018, 07:52:18
Just wanted to give everyone a little bit of an update, but the checking at the consolidation warehouse was just finished later than expected and will be shipped to me on Tuesday or Wednesday of this week. It'll be around 6 days from Beijing to San Francisco and I'll need a day or two to double check the bulk order, but I should be able to start shipping right after that since everything else (stabs, switches, etc...) have already been sorted and bagged ahead of time.Awesome.
Is the EU proxy going to you first or straight to the proxy from the factory?
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Post by: karankshah on Mon, 02 April 2018, 15:00:47
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 02 April 2018, 19:15:50
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 03 April 2018, 14:15:45
Just wanted to give everyone a little bit of an update, but the checking at the consolidation warehouse was just finished later than expected and will be shipped to me on Tuesday or Wednesday of this week. It'll be around 6 days from Beijing to San Francisco and I'll need a day or two to double check the bulk order, but I should be able to start shipping right after that since everything else (stabs, switches, etc...) have already been sorted and bagged ahead of time.Awesome.
Is the EU proxy going to you first or straight to the proxy from the factory?
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The EU order will go from the factory directly to Candykeys and get shipped out from there.
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 03 April 2018, 14:25:11
I think I ordered Cherry Browns with this, but I've decided against them (I ordered Kailh Box Burnt Oranges for this which weren't an option on the site). Is there a way for me to pull those out of the order?
Shoot me an email at contact@switchplate.co and I'll get you sorted out
Post by: hoangvu95 on Sat, 07 April 2018, 17:21:12
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 08 April 2018, 04:12:58
so has the bulk shipment arrive yet ?? if yes how is the QC progress going ?? everything is ok ??
There's been a minor delay with shipping paperwork on the vendor side of things. The package is with DHL, but I'll write an update once I know exactly where the situation stands.
Post by: floristfran on Sun, 08 April 2018, 17:25:12
I'd like to give up my spot if anyone is interested in a stainless case/ stainless plate/ pcb package.
would be down to do this
Post by: bearwolfz on Tue, 10 April 2018, 02:26:16
I ordered a bent plate setup, gonna wire it for iso if that has any relavance to pinlayout options.
So excited for this :)
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 10 April 2018, 21:45:06
I have a question, i didn't order with switches since i have a bunch at home and wasn't sure at the time what i wanted. But now i was gonna order some more and just wanted to doublecheck if the pcb supports 5 pin switches or if i should order 3 pins? I guess 3 pin i safe but i had some extra 5pin at home.
I ordered a bent plate setup, gonna wire it for iso if that has any relavance to pinlayout options.
So excited for this :)
Yeah, the PCB does support PCB mount (5 pin) switches and ISO so you should be good to go.
Post by: hoangvu95 on Sun, 15 April 2018, 15:10:09
Post by: bmilcs on Sun, 15 April 2018, 17:15:42
Would love some updates =)
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 15 April 2018, 20:58:37
Basically waiting on a customs agent to fill out some paperwork at the moment. I should've gotten this sorted beforehand so this one is mostly my fault. Customs agent was done through DHL so I'll call them first thing in the morning tomorrow (Monday) to see if I can speed them up.
Post by: bearwolfz on Mon, 16 April 2018, 04:06:00
Yeah, the PCB does support PCB mount (5 pin) switches and ISO so you should be good to go.
Thanks for the reply! Then i'm good to go :)
Post by: hoangvu95 on Mon, 16 April 2018, 12:39:46
https://switchplate.co/blogs/news/southpaw-gb-update-six
Basically waiting on a customs agent to fill out some paperwork at the moment. I should've gotten this sorted beforehand so this one is mostly my fault. Customs agent was done through DHL so I'll call them first thing in the morning tomorrow (Monday) to see if I can speed them up.
thanks for the update, crossing finger that I can receive the kit before May
Post by: bmilcs on Tue, 24 April 2018, 06:31:02
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 24 April 2018, 18:46:39
How'd the customs go?
Scrapped DHL. Bit the bullet and shipping via SF Express again. I can confidently say that it will go out today.
Post by: kwerdenker on Wed, 25 April 2018, 11:19:41
Will the shipment to Candykeys go out at the same time or will we have to wait longer for the EU orders to get here?How'd the customs go?Scrapped DHL. Bit the bullet and shipping via SF Express again. I can confidently say that it will go out today.
Post by: MC_kb on Thu, 26 April 2018, 11:07:37
Will the shipment to Candykeys go out at the same time or will we have to wait longer for the EU orders to get here?How'd the customs go?Scrapped DHL. Bit the bullet and shipping via SF Express again. I can confidently say that it will go out today.
Is the EU proxy going to you first or straight to the proxy from the factory?
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The EU order will go from the factory directly to Candykeys and get shipped out from there.
;D
Post by: kwerdenker on Thu, 26 April 2018, 13:48:27
...;D
The EU order will go from the factory directly to Candykeys and get shipped out from there.
My question was rather if this direct shipping will take place at the same time or if there are other factors delaying it. No idea if shipping to Germany needs different Custom forms for instance
Post by: KorbenDallas on Fri, 27 April 2018, 17:55:52
Post by: forumusername on Fri, 27 April 2018, 18:28:01
By chance are there any extra's of the Alps compatible plates? I came across some Alps switches and would love to incorporate them in this build.check your pm
Post by: Stagione on Fri, 27 April 2018, 23:11:18
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Fri, 27 April 2018, 23:22:24
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 28 April 2018, 18:21:30
Any word on the extras?
I'll email those who filled out the extras forms once everything has been QC'd to ensure that everyone who participated in the initial GB will receive a board.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 28 April 2018, 18:23:32
Post by: KeLorean on Sun, 29 April 2018, 08:37:27
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Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Sun, 29 April 2018, 08:43:45
Any word on the extras?
I'll email those who filled out the extras forms once everything has been QC'd to ensure that everyone who participated in the initial GB will receive a board.
Sweet, thanks!
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 30 April 2018, 12:31:09
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 02 May 2018, 00:47:01
Issues aside, the cases that came out well and look damn amazing. Black anodization is spot on.
(https://i.imgur.com/XaV4dr6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bO3bdHo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VZ1bdYz.jpg)
Post by: lecorsair on Wed, 02 May 2018, 01:12:33
Post by: edj628 on Wed, 02 May 2018, 09:38:08
Post by: forumusername on Wed, 02 May 2018, 11:09:29
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Post by: MegalaDump on Wed, 02 May 2018, 23:57:53
My body is ready
Couldn't have said it better myself. The hype is real :eek:
Post by: karankshah on Fri, 04 May 2018, 13:22:33
Also - any pictures of the PCB's?
Post by: bmilcs on Fri, 04 May 2018, 13:49:00
Btw, could I borrow a knife or two? Thanks.
Post by: floristfran on Wed, 09 May 2018, 04:14:13
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 09 May 2018, 19:36:51
So as some of you guys on discord have heard last night that there are some pretty major issues (in my eyes at least) with the project and I would like everyone to have an idea of what’s going on. I received the items on Friday of last week and immediately realized that there were a few things that were quite off. Because there were a number of people involved, it’s not certain where the files were adjusted but there’s just a lack of accountability in the situation so if anything needs to be redone, I’m willing to dig into my own pockets to make things right since want to make something that you guys can enjoy and be happy with.
There were also features discussed that didn’t get revised onto the final items and that part of things is being negotiated with the vendor that’s working as a middleman for all the production. I’ll keep everyone updated as something is worked out. All of the issues are listed below. Album of issues is here: https://imgur.com/a/QVQeZGq
PCBs
- Magnetic reset switch soldered to the underside of the PCB. It’s advisable for all cases and required for the aluminum case that this be cut off or resoldered on the top side. If you decide to just cut it, you can short the reset from the topside.
- Solder Mask was done in white instead of black. Vendor claimed to not have seen my email about doing a white solder mask and aren’t willing to fix it.
- Missing vertical ISO Enter for alps. This will not affect you if you’re planning on using an adapter or are planning on using DCS or DSA alps caps. If you’re planning to build a board up with alps, I urge you to email me about it.
Aluminum Cases
- Some blem (b-stock cases) in the run that was shipped to me. For the most part though, the anodizing came out amazing.
- Rubber pads were never manufactured. This was discussed but same issue as white solder mask. I will most likely have them done and send them out to everyone at a later date. I’ll be throwing bumpons in with if you choose to have your board shipped asap.
Plates
- Some plates were hastily cut. The cut lines on some of the plates look as if the DXF was drawn in MS Paint.
- About 60-80 percent of plates were mangled in transit. Partially because the vendor wrapped them together with shrink wrap and packed them in a single sheet of bubble wrap.
- DXF cut file was altered somewhere along the line and the edges are insanely thin. This will be fixed when new ones are made.
Bent Plates
- File was changed somewhere along the line and nobody wants to claim responsibility. Completely an aesthetical change, but I personally am pretty pissed about it.
Enclosed Steel case
- Screw holes on plate section weren’t removed
- Holes for cone feet were never cut.
- Some cases have fit issues and do not sit level on the ground.
Alright, so now for the important part.
I know everyone has been waiting a damn ridiculous amount of time for these so I’ll have a few options for you guys to choose from.
For bent plates and integrated cases, since the discrepancy in manufacturing is 100% aesthetical and doesn’t at all affect function, (save for the holes for the cone feet and cases that have allignment issues) I will give you the option to either take the one that’s here at the moment or to wait for the new units to be manufactured.The one condition to be met for remanufacturing though is that we need a certain number of units in order to make manufacturing them viable. Probably will be something along the lines of 10-20 units with a one to two month lead time.
For orders with aluminum cases and standalone plates, it’s a slightly different situation. A large majority of the plates came damaged and after QC, most either qualify as b-stock or belong with recyclable aluminum cans. Because most of you guys won’t be building plateless boards and probably don’t want to resolder, I have Three options as far as plates go.
- I can send you a b- stock plate and issue a partial refund. These plates are useable, but they’re not ultra straight. Keep in mind plates will straighten out when you mount and solder switches. As this is tray mount, the plate doesn’t as much contribute to the feel of the board as it does stability of the switches.
- I can refund you for the plate in full and you can build the board up plateless. Keep in mind that you’ll need PCB mount switches to build it up like this and you’ll have marginally more wobble with certain switches.
- You can wait for the plates to be redone. This will be around a month or two. One thing though is that if the factory can’t give me a 100% guarantee that plates will come out perfect, I’ll be going to a different factory that’s been used for some really really high end customs and having them make the plates. With the secondary option, I have doubts of the colors being 100% perfect, but I personally value function over form.
I might or might not have enough A stock cases to cover every single color. (I’m about 75 or 80 percent through QC and I know that there’s one case color where there aren’t enough A stock cases) If there aren’t enough A stock cases for your selected color, I can do one of three things.
- I can send you the blem case with the partial refund. I’ll be sending everyone images of the exact case they’ll be receiving so there aren’t any unwelcome surprises.
- You can opt to wait for the cases to be redone. 1-2 month wait.
Final Notes
I am really sorry that this is once again delayed. I will be doing future projects with my own manufacturing and resources (some of them which have manufactured customs and higher end boards before) and local designers to ensure that this doesn’t happen again. This will also help lower prices from here on out since I will no longer be going through a middleman of sorts. As for this situation specifically, send inquiries for order change to contact@switchplate.co and I will take note of what you would like to do with your order and process it accordingly. These decisions will be final as I will be allocating items accordingly to b-stock for those that wanted extras as soon as I process your order. For general questions, please use the comments here or the GH thread so I can get an idea of what everyone wants. I’ll try to answer them promptly here, on GH and discord. Replies might be a little slow, but I’m damn busy this week with APs and Finals at school so if I don’t respond within 12 hours, definitely feel free to resend the message. Keep your eyes out for another update on the website and the GH thread as discussions with the vendor and QC finishes up.
Link to sign up for update emails: https://switchplate.us17.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=618cf646781228a46f5914218&id=3fc437233f
Link to GH Thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.0
Link to project page on website: https://switchplate.co/collections/southpaw-extended-65-group-buy
Order changes only, use threads and discord for general questions: contact@switchplate.co
Post by: JamesOFarrell on Wed, 09 May 2018, 21:03:01
Post by: karankshah on Wed, 09 May 2018, 22:27:03
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 09 May 2018, 22:28:26
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Wed, 09 May 2018, 22:44:22
1. What discord you talking about? dont see it linked anywhere?
2. Bent plate buyer, indifferent about aesthetic changes but will suck it up and wait if you need more people to hit the MOQ for a remanufacture (I say this with the intent that this will not be at any additional cost to anyone who opts for the correct design)
3. PCB resoldering is kind of dicey...Not really a fan of having to tinker with something like desoldering or shorting something because the manufacturer refuses to fix an error. Maybe provide some kind of how to fix diagram/sheet and include an imgur album showing us how to properly short/resolder it, so I and any other people not confident in their soldering dont run the risk of ruining a board they've waited a long time to receive.
4. Solder masks are whatever, white is fine, at least its not green haha
I know I sound like I'm being picky/whiny but I appreciate the transparency over the delays and the issues. Unfortunate that some manufacturers have a lower standard of quality than others but what can you do...hindsight is 20/20
Hopefully with the re-manufacture they actually package their shipments appropriately
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 09 May 2018, 23:15:49
Having seen the bent plate images, assuming it's in line with what the pics show, I'm more than happy to take it. No concerns from my end. Do you need confirmation over email?Yeah, a confirmation over email is best if you've purchased through the NA website, but if you've purchased through taobao, I'll go ahead and forward your reply to them. They were the ones involved in production for the GB so I'll talk it over and have them send you the one that they should have on hand.
Post by: bthezebra on Wed, 09 May 2018, 23:17:12
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 10 May 2018, 01:15:45
Order 1041 here
1. What discord you talking about? dont see it linked anywhere?
2. Bent plate buyer, indifferent about aesthetic changes but will suck it up and wait if you need more people to hit the MOQ for a remanufacture (I say this with the intent that this will not be at any additional cost to anyone who opts for the correct design)
3. PCB resoldering is kind of dicey...Not really a fan of having to tinker with something like desoldering or shorting something because the manufacturer refuses to fix an error. Maybe provide some kind of how to fix diagram/sheet and include an imgur album showing us how to properly short/resolder it, so I and any other people not confident in their soldering dont run the risk of ruining a board they've waited a long time to receive.
4. Solder masks are whatever, white is fine, at least its not green haha
I know I sound like I'm being picky/whiny but I appreciate the transparency over the delays and the issues. Unfortunate that some manufacturers have a lower standard of quality than others but what can you do...hindsight is 20/20
Hopefully with the re-manufacture they actually package their shipments appropriately
1/ For discord contact, just go ahead and PM me. I'm on there as reconsiderit, #0001
2/ I'm talking with the vendor who worked as a middleman for all this and what I can tell is that even if we don't meet MOQ, I'll suck it up and buy out extras because at the time of me closing the extras form, there were around 60 people with reservations for extra spots.
3/ Other people have pointed out the PCB part. What I think I'll be doing is as I send emails out to people to check is also check to see if this is something they can do themselves. If not, I'll most likely flip it around for them before I ship.
Post by: KorbenDallas on Thu, 10 May 2018, 01:18:48
1. Does this affect the orders with Stainless Steel plates for the aluminum case?
2. I ordered a raw aluminum case, will you be sending those back/requesting more of them due to the blemishes?
If the Stainless steel plates and raw aluminum cases aren't up to spec i would rather wait for replacements to be made rather than take B stock case. Thanks for the transparency of the matter, I know the QC was out of your control and i appreciate the update.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 10 May 2018, 01:43:43
Aww that's unfortunate there are so many issues with manufacturing :(.
1. Does this affect the orders with Stainless Steel plates for the aluminum case?
2. I ordered a raw aluminum case, will you be sending those back/requesting more of them due to the blemishes?
If the Stainless steel plates and raw aluminum cases aren't up to spec i would rather wait for replacements to be made rather than take B stock case. Thanks for the transparency of the matter, I know the QC was out of your control and i appreciate the update.
There are a number of stainless steel plates that did survive shipping so if your order is earlier on in the queue, it might be shipped out next week. As far as the raw cases are concerned, I haven't checked all of the cases yet, but with the ones that I have gone through there have only been two blems which I'll be requesting new ones of.
Post by: kwerdenker on Thu, 10 May 2018, 03:35:19
A couple of questions:
1. How easy/hard is the re-soldering of the reset switch? Can it easily be done by people who are not setup for/experienced in SMD soldering?
2. Would it be possible for you to release the files for the plates when the corrected version is done? This way people could get their own cut if they don't want to wait for the new batch.
3. Should the people who ordered through Candykeys go directly through them to work out their options (b-stock/partial refunds, waiting, etc) or should that also go through you?
Post by: TyrionLannister on Thu, 10 May 2018, 10:54:04
Personally, I think it would be worth doing the PCBs correctly in a new batch. Why not place a decent sized order for the most popular versions (hi-pro alu case in the 3 most popular colors and bent plate case) since there's such a large interest in extras? You could easily, easily sell them all (at a higher price than the GB) on r/mm and here.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 10 May 2018, 13:21:44
I signed up for an extra spot, and am still onboard. In fact, if you need help fronting the money for remanufacture, let me know and I can loan you up to 5-10k if you need it.
Personally, I think it would be worth doing the PCBs correctly in a new batch. Why not place a decent sized order for the most popular versions (hi-pro alu case in the 3 most popular colors and bent plate case) since there's such a large interest in extras? You could easily, easily sell them all (at a higher price than the GB) on r/mm and here.
Hey man, I appreciate the offer for financial help but have to politely decline.
As far as producing a new batch, I would rather run v2 of the board than redo the current ones as there are some pretty significant updates that I had in mind.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 10 May 2018, 13:26:32
Thank you for the detailed update, even though it's not the news we all were waiting for :(
A couple of questions:
1. How easy/hard is the re-soldering of the reset switch? Can it easily be done by people who are not setup for/experienced in SMD soldering?
2. Would it be possible for you to release the files for the plates when the corrected version is done? This way people could get their own cut if they don't want to wait for the new batch.
3. Should the people who ordered through Candykeys go directly through them to work out their options (b-stock/partial refunds, waiting, etc) or should that also go through you?
1/ The reset switch is thru-hole. the pads are around the size of LEDs and can be accessed from both sides so it should be about as easy/difficult to resolder as an LED
2/ That's a pretty good idea. I'll mention that in the email that I'll send out.
3/ So Candykeys hasn't had their order shipped yet since I had it held as soon as I got my shipment from CN and saw all the issues. It would be best to contact them to work out options.
Post by: bearwolfz on Thu, 10 May 2018, 17:06:55
Thanks for the update anyways!
Edit: i was just going to bed so i didn't see the album sorry....
Anyways, is it the bezel on the left that's the error? the one that is softer? I kinda of like that myself :D
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 10 May 2018, 18:59:07
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 10 May 2018, 19:57:50
Bent plate buyer here. Is there any possibility to see a picture of it, and how it differs from the planned design? Waiting is fine i guess (the magic of groupbuys eh? :D) But depending on if it's in your face bothersome, or if its some angle on the backside that doesn't affect that much ... well you know.
Thanks for the update anyways!
Edit: i was just going to bed so i didn't see the album sorry....
Anyways, is it the bezel on the left that's the error? the one that is softer? I kinda of like that myself :D
The discrepancy with the bent case is in the bezels. The one on the right is the proto with equal bezels and the one on the left is the production run with the larger bottom bezel. The bends are the same radius, but they appear a little different because of the lighting.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 10 May 2018, 20:17:00
Dumb question perhaps, but with the standalone plates is it possible to just flatten them out with a hammer or would that end up damaging them?The main issue is that the material (6063) used for the plate is relatively elastic since it was made from rolled and not extruded sheet. It needs to be bent beyond flat and tweaked till its flat. This isn't the issue as any of the very minor bends are worked out as soon as the switches are mounted and the board soldered together. The main issue with a lot of the plates is that they've been bent vertically which is difficult to get right.
I'll be offering the plates that are slightly bowed as b-stock if the cuts are still good. That said, the laser cuts for the plates are all over the place. Some of them are literally perfect with only the entry/exit point for the laser and some other ones look like MS paint.
Post by: Stagione on Fri, 11 May 2018, 00:09:32
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 11 May 2018, 01:01:27
Should I send you an email directly or wait for you to send out the mass email first?
You can go ahead and email me whenever. I'll make a note on the order.
Post by: hoangvu95 on Fri, 11 May 2018, 10:41:16
Hope everything will be fine, it's a normal thing for GB manu from China I guess, hope everything will resolve smoothly for both you and other buyers
Post by: Phile Newbean on Fri, 11 May 2018, 11:32:50
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Post by: xondat on Fri, 11 May 2018, 12:54:56
Will a key cap set that supports 1800 support this keyboard?
1800 support does not mean 65-75% support, so no? You want to look for 65-75% support (which is R2/3 Nav keys, usually Pg Up/Dn, and also a Fn key), all good keysets support these.
Post by: kiwi99 on Fri, 11 May 2018, 22:18:41
Will a key cap set that supports 1800 support this keyboard?
A set off a vintage 1800 board will cover the entire board but you'll have some mismatched key cap profiles on the right side.
Post by: dhupp on Mon, 14 May 2018, 09:52:55
Post by: HOBI3CAT on Mon, 14 May 2018, 12:44:19
I will send you an email, but here's my situation/thoughts anyway:
1. I am a bent-case buyer here, and I'm fine with taking the one with the offset bezels!
2. The solder mask color makes no difference to me, and I'm fine with re-soldering the reset switch on top myself (although it would be helpful to post a picture guide for those with little/no soldering experience)
3. Guess I missed out on the leftovers form, but I assume you will be offering up some of the B-stock cnc cases later on for sale? I was interested in getting a black/grey cnc case anyway, but I'd be happy with a B-stock one! I'd also be fine with a B-stock matching mx plate too (as long as it wasn't bent vertically).
Hope you can get this all resolved quickly and easily without pulling your hair out too much! :thumb:
Post by: lac29 on Mon, 14 May 2018, 15:31:48
I'd rather wait for everything to be shipped at the same time for me even with waiting.
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 15 May 2018, 03:52:54
Order #1009
I'd rather wait for everything to be shipped at the same time for me even with waiting.
Hey man, if possible, I would prefer order changes to be made through email. Shoot me am email at contact@switchplate.co and I'll get you sorted out. Thanks!
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 15 May 2018, 04:03:35
The plates were revised incorrectly and only take 1.25u for the two leftmost keys. This mainly affects those that are planning to use the left hand arrow cluster as these plates will not take those anymore. Keep that in mind when you decide on taking or waiting for new plates. Pic below shows the issue. You can see on the left cutout that it's offset the wrong way, for .25u off to the right for 1.5u. Also notice that the cutout for winkey is now just 1u.
Something somebody else suggested was to make the plates open source so that rather than waiting, you can order one from one of the many people in the community that cut custom acrylic plates. I'm having one cut at the moment to test fit. Once that's done I'll put the file up here for everyone to use.
Edit: Email should be sent tomorrow. Hopefully. I'm getting all the issues condensed into one email/blog post
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Pics of revised bent case are below. It's a 100% aesthetical change apart from plate compatibility.
(https://i.imgur.com/elC4ZA8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qSAd6gR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sE52c0t.jpg)
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 16 May 2018, 17:23:18
Album of issues for those that want to see what the issues are like: https://imgur.com/a/uvbtjy3
Edit: Link to discord server for my storefront: https://discord.gg/u5xPRTS
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 21 May 2018, 13:13:32
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NfHX9UrMbozEmZN5RGGtuyA_qkEDUO1P7F_tV7Dbur0/edit?usp=sharing
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Tue, 22 May 2018, 17:16:34
If we ordered via EU proxy do we need to do anything or just sit tight?
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Post by: bearwolfz on Fri, 25 May 2018, 07:48:00
Hi,
If we ordered via EU proxy do we need to do anything or just sit tight?
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Yeah, i had a chat with Candykeys and he said that they won't ship out any products that didn't get cleared through QC in case of more unexpected problems. So just wait!
[Screams internally]
but it will be worth it :D
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Fri, 25 May 2018, 15:03:29
No prob - just keen to get my hands on it! Looking at more keycap setsHi,
If we ordered via EU proxy do we need to do anything or just sit tight?
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Yeah, i had a chat with Candykeys and he said that they won't ship out any products that didn't get cleared through QC in case of more unexpected problems. So just wait!
[Screams internally]
but it will be worth it :D
Keen for a R2 as well if it goes ahead
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Post by: Harms on Tue, 29 May 2018, 15:01:50
Yea a R2 would be awesome!No prob - just keen to get my hands on it! Looking at more keycap setsHi,
If we ordered via EU proxy do we need to do anything or just sit tight?
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
Yeah, i had a chat with Candykeys and he said that they won't ship out any products that didn't get cleared through QC in case of more unexpected problems. So just wait!
[Screams internally]
but it will be worth it :D
Keen for a R2 as well if it goes ahead
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Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 29 May 2018, 20:12:05
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 29 May 2018, 20:14:08
Yea a R2 would be awesome!No prob - just keen to get my hands on it! Looking at more keycap setsHi,
If we ordered via EU proxy do we need to do anything or just sit tight?
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
Yeah, i had a chat with Candykeys and he said that they won't ship out any products that didn't get cleared through QC in case of more unexpected problems. So just wait!
[Screams internally]
but it will be worth it :D
Keen for a R2 as well if it goes ahead
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
R2 will be more of a "version 2". Expect the numpad to be a little spaced out from the rest of the board. This though means no more left hand arrow clusters, but after using it for a while, I've realized that you can just toggle numlock to turn the numpad into an arrow cluster. Then again, I'm not left handed and I only use the arrows under the "numlock layer" with things like lightroom and such.
Post by: Harms on Tue, 29 May 2018, 20:20:12
That sounds great. Hopefully version 2 will be top mounted like your latest 100% KB with left numpad project instead of tray mount.Yea a R2 would be awesome!No prob - just keen to get my hands on it! Looking at more keycap setsHi,
If we ordered via EU proxy do we need to do anything or just sit tight?
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Yeah, i had a chat with Candykeys and he said that they won't ship out any products that didn't get cleared through QC in case of more unexpected problems. So just wait!
[Screams internally]
but it will be worth it :D
Keen for a R2 as well if it goes ahead
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R2 will be more of a "version 2". Expect the numpad to be a little spaced out from the rest of the board. This though means no more left hand arrow clusters, but after using it for a while, I've realized that you can just toggle numlock to turn the numpad into an arrow cluster. Then again, I'm not left handed and I only use the arrows under the "numlock layer" with things like lightroom and such.
Post by: lac29 on Wed, 30 May 2018, 08:22:45
Post by: under.pk on Wed, 30 May 2018, 13:42:49
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 30 May 2018, 21:16:52
A little space will make this layout become usable, I did a handwire to test the layout while I wait my plate and pcb arrive and have found that the layout is really hard to use with numpad next to the left modifiers. You have to watch your keyboard everytime you use it.
Yeah, there are certain advantages to having it spaced and having it right up against the left mods. For one, I use it for a lot of CAD work and find it easy to reach the tab and shift while I'm on the numpad which helps a little in terms of working efficiency. Additionally, you'll have that dedicated left arrow cluster. On the other hand, spacing it out will most likely eliminate any chance for mistakes or anything similar.
Post by: euphxenos on Wed, 30 May 2018, 23:23:47
Yea a R2 would be awesome!No prob - just keen to get my hands on it! Looking at more keycap setsHi,
If we ordered via EU proxy do we need to do anything or just sit tight?
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
Yeah, i had a chat with Candykeys and he said that they won't ship out any products that didn't get cleared through QC in case of more unexpected problems. So just wait!
[Screams internally]
but it will be worth it :D
Keen for a R2 as well if it goes ahead
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
R2 will be more of a "version 2". Expect the numpad to be a little spaced out from the rest of the board. This though means no more left hand arrow clusters, but after using it for a while, I've realized that you can just toggle numlock to turn the numpad into an arrow cluster. Then again, I'm not left handed and I only use the arrows under the "numlock layer" with things like lightroom and such.
If you really wanted to have a bit of separation between the numpad on the left *and* still have a left side arrow cluster, you could do a layout sort of like a left handed 1800. Unfortunately, then the left side arrows cluster would be mandatory, you'd lose a key on the bottom row, you'd have to have a small left shift, and you wouldn't be able to have a double height enter key on the numpad. No problem! I'm in. :)
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Thu, 31 May 2018, 07:30:54
Sounds awesome! I won't miss the left hand arrow keys, it's the small form factor layout and left hand numpad that's attractive.Yea a R2 would be awesome!No prob - just keen to get my hands on it! Looking at more keycap setsHi,
If we ordered via EU proxy do we need to do anything or just sit tight?
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
Yeah, i had a chat with Candykeys and he said that they won't ship out any products that didn't get cleared through QC in case of more unexpected problems. So just wait!
[Screams internally]
but it will be worth it :D
Keen for a R2 as well if it goes ahead
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
R2 will be more of a "version 2". Expect the numpad to be a little spaced out from the rest of the board. This though means no more left hand arrow clusters, but after using it for a while, I've realized that you can just toggle numlock to turn the numpad into an arrow cluster. Then again, I'm not left handed and I only use the arrows under the "numlock layer" with things like lightroom and such.
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Thu, 31 May 2018, 09:58:24
Post by: MC_kb on Thu, 31 May 2018, 15:47:02
Post by: Stagione on Thu, 31 May 2018, 16:14:46
Tell me about it. I bought some Zealios with the GB but I think they will be instantly traded for some sweet Box Royals to go on the Southpaw ;D
Let me know if you do. I have some Box Royals and I'm not sure if I'm a fan
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 31 May 2018, 19:10:47
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 01 June 2018, 22:23:08
So mine actually arrived today. Everything looks good, case is nice and the plate seems fine. Only thing is that I don't seem to have any screws to mount the PCB/plate to the case, just the 4 to mount the risers. Do you have the specs for those screws so I could stop by a store and get some?
Really sorry that those didn't make it into your order. If you want I can ship you some but if you prefer just to go out and grab some, they are m2x4mm
Post by: lki2vna on Sat, 02 June 2018, 13:29:39
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 02 June 2018, 16:36:37
Hey, loving the bent plate so far. I'm putting together my second one and installing leds on this one. The orientation of the leds seems the opposite of what I would've expected. They only turn on if I put the longer leg through the square hole, does that seem right? Just checking before I solder them all in.
Yeah. That seems about right. The longer side should be inserted into the hole with the square pad.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 02 June 2018, 19:52:36
https://goo.gl/EEFCBt
(https://i.imgur.com/yvSO8Ot.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AEw9UwJ.jpg)
Edit: I forgot about all the ISO people. I'll have a plate for those that want ISO up in a little bit.
Post by: Nigolski on Sun, 03 June 2018, 01:41:11
Post by: PRkeys on Sun, 03 June 2018, 01:45:54
so bummed i went with raw case instead of black or purple :(Powder coating is always an easy, inexpensive option. That is why I chose raw, to get the color I want later.
Post by: a_ak57 on Sun, 03 June 2018, 20:40:38
Layer 0 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/ea9ff1c07bb820e0353f453af0a74522)
Layer 1 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/7ba485c125081f278f5938c459541d3a)
TMK (https://i.imgur.com/qxhEIub.png)
First problem: Layer 1 is always on, but not entirely correctly. My Delete key for some reason is registering a combination of Ins/PgUp/PgDn/Right Arrow. My Volume buttons do nothing, but I'm willing to chalk that up to it being something that wasn't going to work anyway. But otherwise as mentioned the F row, Print/Scroll/Pause, etc are always the active keys.
Second problem: Caps Lock does turn on just its LED when pressed, but Num Lock turns on the entire board of LEDs. Scroll Lock does nothing with the LEDs, though I don't particularly care about that.
It is perhaps worth nothing that the stock layout was different than expected too. My Home/End were just PgUp/PgDn on both layers and Delete was still weird (forget exactly how already but I didn't simply have Delete/Insert). My 1u Win and the Fn key did nothing, and the actual Fn key was where my 1u Ctrl is.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 03 June 2018, 21:45:30
So I'm having some trouble with TMK. Here are the layers I'm using, and a screenshot of my TMK settings:
Layer 0 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/ea9ff1c07bb820e0353f453af0a74522)
Layer 1 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/7ba485c125081f278f5938c459541d3a)
TMK (https://i.imgur.com/qxhEIub.png)
First problem: Layer 1 is always on, but not entirely correctly. My Delete key for some reason is registering a combination of Ins/PgUp/PgDn/Right Arrow. My Volume buttons do nothing, but I'm willing to chalk that up to it being something that wasn't going to work anyway. But otherwise as mentioned the F row, Print/Scroll/Pause, etc are always the active keys.
Second problem: Caps Lock does turn on just its LED when pressed, but Num Lock turns on the entire board of LEDs. Scroll Lock does nothing with the LEDs, though I don't particularly care about that.
It is perhaps worth nothing that the stock layout was different than expected too. My Home/End were just PgUp/PgDn on both layers and Delete was still weird (forget exactly how already but I didn't simply have Delete/Insert). My 1u Win and the Fn key did nothing, and the actual Fn key was where my 1u Ctrl is.
I can't see anything wrong in TKG or anywhere else so I'll just recommend checking a few things.
If you haven't tried flashing it a second time, that's where I would start. If you've tried that, I would go ahead and update the driver with zaidg and use the offline tkg toolkit.
Post by: a_ak57 on Sun, 03 June 2018, 22:52:56
Post by: graefeln on Mon, 04 June 2018, 14:05:06
First off, the keymap seems to work fine in regards to how everything is pressed and whatnot - it's really just the LEDs (in-switch) I don't understand. Here's how I currently have it set up:
(https://i.imgur.com/NwKRBrB.png)
As you can probably make out, I was hoping Fn1 and Fn2 would change the brightness and that Fn3 would toggle the LEDs on/off. None of those three seem to do anything at all. Fn0 does bring it to the Layer1 properly (F-keys work).
Now, when I press the num lock key, instead of just that key lighting up, the entire board does (caps lock seems to function properly - just that one LED when it is on). I was thinking maybe I had the LED boxes pm tkg.io setup improperly and/or don't really understand the 'Backlight action' mappings.
Any help/advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Edit: So, I got the in-switch LED layer to work by assigning it to LED1 (couldn't get it to work on any of the others). LED2 is still Caps Lock and works - but if I move it, it doesn't seem to anymore either.
Further edit: It also seems like I must have LED4 set to RGB LED if I want the underside to work (personally, I don't care about those). If I assign LED2 to Num Lock, it works - but it lights up where the Caps Lock LED would be. Still haven't figured out how to get an LED to light up for the Num Lock position.
Post by: HOBI3CAT on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:59:38
Post by: dankdesire on Thu, 07 June 2018, 11:01:31
Finally got my bent plate kit in! I'm excited to build it :) And the mis-matched bezel sizes don't really bother me at all
Please post pictures, I want to see more of this awesomness :D
Post by: HOBI3CAT on Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:22:39
Finally got my bent plate kit in! I'm excited to build it :) And the mis-matched bezel sizes don't really bother me at all
Please post pictures, I want to see more of this awesomness :D
I'm about to head to the airport actually... will have to post pics next week!
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 07 June 2018, 18:16:59
As far as order fufiliment is concerned, it's moving forward slower than expected. A lot of things have come up recently but I'm going to move the ship date for the next batch out to Monday the 11th as I haven't had time to pack as many orders with everything that's come up.
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 07 June 2018, 21:59:41
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Fri, 08 June 2018, 12:13:45
Bent plate kit
GMK Plum
Gateron Browns
Cherry stabilizers
(https://i.imgur.com/ZhEQehl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pIJNvzW.jpg)
pretty easy build, aligning the switches in the plate was a little tough for the bottom row, start with the corners and solder them in for some stability and then work your way inward.
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 11 June 2018, 06:53:56
Cool build also! How is the flex of the bent plate? Is it stiff & stable?
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Mon, 11 June 2018, 15:33:30
Thank you for the update @reconsiderit
Cool build also! How is the flex of the bent plate? Is it stiff & stable?
solid as hell. feels more sturdy than my WASD
Post by: bmilcs on Tue, 12 June 2018, 09:38:37
Post by: kwerdenker on Thu, 14 June 2018, 12:06:06
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 15 June 2018, 05:50:16
@reconsiderit Did you ever get around to that ISO plate? Found a possible source for brass plates and wanted to give it a try.
I'll drop it in the discord shortly.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 17 June 2018, 21:41:03
A large number of people should have kits in hand now as I have pretty much wrapped up orders that need to be shipped out to customers. I am still waiting on a refund from the mfg and will submit the order to the new factory when I have the money in hand.
I will have b-stock available for purchase this Wednesday at 12:00am PDT if anyone is interested in a kit. The website is back up and you can check prices there. As for those who have filled out the google form, it will be FCFS as I do not have time to process every single order and invoice everyone. Those who have filled out the form will have pre-sale access to the album of kits so they can look over and see which one that they would like before it goes live.
As for programming, I haven't had the time to throw together a proper one so here's one that I've cobbled together real quick below.
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Programming
Basic programming utilizes a combination of the TKG compiler, Keyboard layout editor, and an optional TKG toolkit. Note that you need to use kai.tkg.io to program. NOT tkg.io as it does not have a preset for this board. You will also need to download the TKG chrome extention if you're going to flash directly from the website to the board. Also note that you may need to update the driver using Zadig.
1) Compile your layout in KLE. I've included a preset version so you aren't wasting time putting the actual layout together. Keep in mind that TKG only recognizes the labels that are listed on the website. Place FN keys with labels that allow you to differentiate them where you would like functions such as layers, LEDs, and macros placed. Don't forget your spacebar label.
Layout is here: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/0e4e47b7aceafb8fae879d4b890981f7
Key labels are here: https://kai.tkg.io/#help
2) Set up TKG. The top section labeled general should look like this
(https://i.imgur.com/1b2aLrr.png)
3) Take the raw data from KLE and put it into kai.tkg.io. Layer mode should be set to normal unless you know what you're doing. If the box is outlined in red, it means that there's something wrong either either step 2 or step 1. This usually is an issue with labels.
4) Set up the FN section. This should be relatively straightforward. RGB LEDs are under the section that says built in function
5) Set up the LED section.
The first row labeled LED1 is for your backlighting. Set the binding to none and check only the box that says backlight.
The second row labeled LED2 is for your caps lock LED.
The third row labeled LED3 is for your numlock LED
The fourth row labeled LED4 is for your RGB backlight. Set that to active high.
(https://i.imgur.com/WlywvV8.png)
6) Now reset the board by moving a magnet over the reset switch or by connecting the two pads if you've opted to snip it off. It should now enter bootloader mode and show up on tkg if you have the extension installed on chrome. You can also use TKG toolkit for this step. Note that TKG will not compile or flash if there is something that doesn't make sense in the layout. Check if the later box is outlined in red and click it to see any problems that you need to resolve.
Post by: Pennywise359 on Mon, 18 June 2018, 00:48:28
Post by: euphxenos on Mon, 18 June 2018, 01:27:45
2 questions. Are there gonna be any extras. And are there any alternatives? It does not have to be 60%, all I need is a numpad on the left side.
Did you see the bit about b-stock extras going up for sale on Wednesday? You might also want to take a look at the interest check for his upcoming Southpaw Full Size:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94506.0
Post by: Pennywise359 on Mon, 18 June 2018, 03:54:54
Post by: Harms on Mon, 18 June 2018, 13:41:55
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Post by: kiwi99 on Mon, 18 June 2018, 21:15:39
Where will the b stock be going up for sale? Like what website? Thank you :).
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they'll be up for sale on his website switchplate.co, there is already a store link there with all the options that will be available. (it says sold out because its just not opened yet for ordering) it can be found here. https://switchplate.co/collections/parts-and-components/products/southpaw-65-extended-b-stock
Post by: Harms on Mon, 18 June 2018, 21:18:00
Wow thank you so much kind sir!. Hopefully I'am able to snag an extra when it opens :)Where will the b stock be going up for sale? Like what website? Thank you :).
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they'll be up for sale on his website switchplate.co, there is already a store link there with all the options that will be available. (it says sold out because its just not opened yet for ordering) it can be found here. https://switchplate.co/collections/parts-and-components/products/southpaw-65-extended-b-stock
Post by: Fewestapollo75 on Tue, 19 June 2018, 07:28:12
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 19 June 2018, 13:15:21
Is there a file to cut an Alps plate?
I'm working on it at the moment. I hope to have it ready sometime this week.
File for the universal MX plate is below.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_zVr-3tXYdJjvb4ucT9RbgrzeHj1VOdt/view?usp=sharing
Post by: Pennywise359 on Wed, 20 June 2018, 13:58:25
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 20 June 2018, 17:10:06
The B stock sale has started way too early, at 11:40 there were only 4 kits left. Well, lucky me I barely woke up at 11:30 and decided to check sale status. Thanks to reconsiderit for making my dream to have a keyboard with numpad on the left come true. Also I got 2 questions. Will I need to solder anything else then switches andis it possible to use Kailh PCB Sockets with it?
You need to resolder the reset switch if you bought the version with the alu case or just clip it and treat it as a jumper. As for Kailh hotswap sockets, those require a special PCB specifically designed for those.
Post by: Doonagoowin on Fri, 22 June 2018, 06:52:10
After building it, it worked fine. I tried to get some custom layouts on there and figured hey, making it work on QMK should be pretty easy.
I set up the layouts/layers through KLE, imported the raw data into KBFirmware, then downloaded the source codes.
After flashing, the computer AND keyboard went haywire. I had to restart the computer to get it working properly. Same issues came up if I plugged the keyboard back in.
I finally managed to flash the default layout on there after downloading and using TKG Toolkit (I can't get it to flash on kai.tkg.io for some reason)
Only half the modifiers work, numpad doesn't work, bottom row is shifted one to the left (pressing actual Z results in X).
Have I doomed the Kimera? :(
Post by: a_ak57 on Sun, 24 June 2018, 17:57:11
Post by: Doonagoowin on Sun, 24 June 2018, 19:47:30
a-ak57, not sure if this would help you, but it worked for me.
Tkg-master-toolkit has a util.bat file that will allow you to erase the EEPROM.
Afterwards I was able to flash the .eep file I downloaded from tkg.io and it finally worked.
Not sure what was leftover even after multiple flashes, but I had to completely wipe it to fix it.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 24 June 2018, 19:51:36
I finally managed to get it to work this morning!
a-ak57, not sure if this would help you, but it worked for me.
Tkg-master-toolkit has a util.bat file that will allow you to erase the EEPROM.
Afterwards I was able to flash the .eep file I downloaded from tkg.io and it finally worked.
Not sure what was leftover even after multiple flashes, but I had to completely wipe it to fix it.
There's someone working on a kimera port for QMK at the moment, but I can't remember their name off the top of my head. AFAIK, there were some issues with some of the constraints while using the physical controller with QMK. I can't recall what it was or who it was though. If you do some digging you should be able to find it.
Post by: Jimmyjams on Tue, 26 June 2018, 11:05:18
I got the bent plate and I'm wondering how to attach the PCB, acrylic diffuser, and plate all together. The board came with a bag of several screws which I would assume would go through the holes in the plate, PCB, and then finally the diffuser, connecting them all together, but the screw heads seem to be too small for the plate and just pass right through the holes. Is there something else I need to do?
Post by: blue sky on Tue, 26 June 2018, 13:22:54
Post by: Pennywise359 on Wed, 27 June 2018, 17:02:21
Thanks again!
(https://pp.userapi.com/c834203/v834203411/1761a4/FqzBIAK5ojY.jpg)
*UPDT*
Or this
(https://pp.userapi.com/c834203/v834203411/1761b6/e6sRdGX-pGw.jpg)
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 28 June 2018, 15:47:04
Another question. Just to confirm, according to what I saw this layout should be supported, right?
Thanks again!Show Image(https://pp.userapi.com/c834203/v834203411/1761a4/FqzBIAK5ojY.jpg)
*UPDT*
Or thisShow Image(https://pp.userapi.com/c834203/v834203411/1761b6/e6sRdGX-pGw.jpg)
Those layouts aren't going to work. There's the issue with compat with the plates that I currently have on hand.
Original layouts are here: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/fa8522aa315313aed6b864d460d9d67a
Right now with the plates that I have on hand, the bottom row is limited to these here: https://imgur.com/zfFomZP
Post by: spennnyy on Fri, 29 June 2018, 01:52:52
kai.tkg.io settings:
[attachimg=1 width=400]
Layer 0:
[attachimg=2 width=700]
Source (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/f271e2f9028343f16391147273f80e04)
Layer 1 (function layer):
[attachimg=3 width=700]
Source (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/a988640cc426a0433dbf9b46aed8f8dc)
What I'm unsure of is the settings to achieve a key combo of FN+1=F1, FN+2=F2, and so on. I tried Layer Action>Momentary which sounds like what I want; however when I test it, layer 0 acts as it should, but when I try to use FN+(any) it results in random keys being activated. I tried flashing a setting where it toggles the function layer and then it works as expected, but I want to just use the function key + the desired key for one action and not toggle between layers. I also tried using a different function key other than capslock to ensure it wasn't just that specific key in error.
I have tried reflashing multiple times, as well as a TKG utility script (https://github.com/kairyu/tkg-toolkit/blob/master/windows/util.bat) (suggested by Doonagoowin) to erase the EEPROM from the board and then reflashing but the result is the same. I don't think there is anything wrong with the PCB as it works fine on layer 0.
I have not soldered the switches on yet and have been testing by just connecting the pads - I want to make sure its working before soldering anything down. I don't think the issues are caused by using a couple of tweezers to test the function key and another key at the same time, but I could be wrong. I've made sure to not contact anything but the two keys intended.
Any suggestions as to how to get my function layer working? I feel like this must be a pretty typical setup.
Edit:
I think I fixed it by flashing using the TKG reflash script (https://github.com/kairyu/tkg-toolkit/blob/master/windows/reflash.bat) and the downloaded keymap.eep file from kai.tkg.io as an argument, followed by reflashing again just using the website. Note you need to clone/download the whole repo to use the scripts. Copy the downloaded .eep file to the same directory and execute the script as an administrator. Don't forget to run the setup script beforehand choosing kimera as the keyboard, default firmware, and atmel_dfu as the bootloader.
Post by: Pennywise359 on Fri, 29 June 2018, 08:46:22
Ahhh, I really wanted to have 1u winkey. But that's alright. Thank you.
Those layouts aren't going to work. There's the issue with compat with the plates that I currently have on hand.
Original layouts are here: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/fa8522aa315313aed6b864d460d9d67a
Right now with the plates that I have on hand, the bottom row is limited to these here: https://imgur.com/zfFomZP
Post by: karankshah on Sun, 01 July 2018, 00:37:16
Does the layout below look like it's going to work?
(https://i.imgur.com/PYG3Lr0.png)
Fn1 and Fn2 are going to link to other layers.
Fn3-Fn5 are not layer links - they are modified keys for "(",")", and "$" to make that numpad the Excel macropad I need.
Post by: Harms on Wed, 04 July 2018, 16:09:44
Because on device manager "ATmega32U4" shows up under Atmel devices.
On top of that I have the chrome extension installed as well.
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 04 July 2018, 16:29:12
TMK keymap generator is not recognizing my keyboard. I used a paper clip to initiate the reset. I know that the keyboard is in boot loader mode and my computer recognizes it.
Because on device manager "ATmega32U4" shows up under Atmel devices.
On top of that I have the chrome extension installed as well.
Have you updated the USB driver with zadig? The device manager should show "ATmega32u4dfu" if I recall correctly.
Also, double check that there aren't any errors in your layout. Box outline should be green.
Post by: Harms on Wed, 04 July 2018, 18:02:17
Thanks for the help. I updated the drivers and restarted my PC. I then was able to flash the layout and it read my keyboard.TMK keymap generator is not recognizing my keyboard. I used a paper clip to initiate the reset. I know that the keyboard is in boot loader mode and my computer recognizes it.
Because on device manager "ATmega32U4" shows up under Atmel devices.
On top of that I have the chrome extension installed as well.
Have you updated the USB driver with zadig? The device manager should show "ATmega32u4dfu" if I recall correctly.
Also, double check that there aren't any errors in your layout. Box outline should be green.
However, I flash it successfully and the meter goes to 100%, but the layout remains unchanged and it stays as the default layout.
Confusing right.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 05 July 2018, 02:37:58
Thanks for the help. I updated the drivers and restarted my PC. I then was able to flash the layout and it read my keyboard.TMK keymap generator is not recognizing my keyboard. I used a paper clip to initiate the reset. I know that the keyboard is in boot loader mode and my computer recognizes it.
Because on device manager "ATmega32U4" shows up under Atmel devices.
On top of that I have the chrome extension installed as well.
Have you updated the USB driver with zadig? The device manager should show "ATmega32u4dfu" if I recall correctly.
Also, double check that there aren't any errors in your layout. Box outline should be green.
However, I flash it successfully and the meter goes to 100%, but the layout remains unchanged and it stays as the default layout.
Confusing right.
Have you tried flashing it using the TKG toolkit that does everything offline? That would be a pretty surefire option. It requires you download the files from the compiler and then flash them with the utility that's in the toolkit. I've linked it below.
https://github.com/kairyu/tkg-toolkit
Post by: Harms on Sun, 08 July 2018, 00:56:48
Thanks for the help. I updated the drivers and restarted my PC. I then was able to flash the layout and it read my keyboard.TMK keymap generator is not recognizing my keyboard. I used a paper clip to initiate the reset. I know that the keyboard is in boot loader mode and my computer recognizes it.
Because on device manager "ATmega32U4" shows up under Atmel devices.
On top of that I have the chrome extension installed as well.
Have you updated the USB driver with zadig? The device manager should show "ATmega32u4dfu" if I recall correctly.
Also, double check that there aren't any errors in your layout. Box outline should be green.
However, I flash it successfully and the meter goes to 100%, but the layout remains unchanged and it stays as the default layout.
Confusing right.
Have you tried flashing it using the TKG toolkit that does everything offline? That would be a pretty surefire option. It requires you download the files from the compiler and then flash them with the utility that's in the toolkit. I've linked it below.
https://github.com/kairyu/tkg-toolkit
Thanks for the suggestion. It still does not want to behave.
I'm able to flash fine. At least it seems like.
Here is the log.
(https://i.imgur.com/JHFCdpR.jpg)
layout (Fn layer for reference):
(https://i.imgur.com/suo7jjm.png)
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 08 July 2018, 01:14:10
Thanks for the help. I updated the drivers and restarted my PC. I then was able to flash the layout and it read my keyboard.TMK keymap generator is not recognizing my keyboard. I used a paper clip to initiate the reset. I know that the keyboard is in boot loader mode and my computer recognizes it.
Because on device manager "ATmega32U4" shows up under Atmel devices.
On top of that I have the chrome extension installed as well.
Have you updated the USB driver with zadig? The device manager should show "ATmega32u4dfu" if I recall correctly.
Also, double check that there aren't any errors in your layout. Box outline should be green.
However, I flash it successfully and the meter goes to 100%, but the layout remains unchanged and it stays as the default layout.
Confusing right.
Have you tried flashing it using the TKG toolkit that does everything offline? That would be a pretty surefire option. It requires you download the files from the compiler and then flash them with the utility that's in the toolkit. I've linked it below.
https://github.com/kairyu/tkg-toolkit
Thanks for the suggestion. It still does not want to behave.
I'm able to flash fine. At least it seems like.
Here is the log.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JHFCdpR.jpg)
layout (Fn layer for reference):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/suo7jjm.png)
Do you have a screenshot of when you compiled the layout in TKG? I think the FN settings could be the cause of the issue.
Post by: Harms on Sun, 08 July 2018, 02:22:59
I hope it is ahaaha.Thanks for the help. I updated the drivers and restarted my PC. I then was able to flash the layout and it read my keyboard.TMK keymap generator is not recognizing my keyboard. I used a paper clip to initiate the reset. I know that the keyboard is in boot loader mode and my computer recognizes it.
Because on device manager "ATmega32U4" shows up under Atmel devices.
On top of that I have the chrome extension installed as well.
Have you updated the USB driver with zadig? The device manager should show "ATmega32u4dfu" if I recall correctly.
Also, double check that there aren't any errors in your layout. Box outline should be green.
However, I flash it successfully and the meter goes to 100%, but the layout remains unchanged and it stays as the default layout.
Confusing right.
Have you tried flashing it using the TKG toolkit that does everything offline? That would be a pretty surefire option. It requires you download the files from the compiler and then flash them with the utility that's in the toolkit. I've linked it below.
https://github.com/kairyu/tkg-toolkit
Thanks for the suggestion. It still does not want to behave.
I'm able to flash fine. At least it seems like.
Here is the log.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JHFCdpR.jpg)
layout (Fn layer for reference):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/suo7jjm.png)
Do you have a screenshot of when you compiled the layout in TKG? I think the FN settings could be the cause of the issue.
(https://i.imgur.com/bUza5tE.png)
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Sat, 14 July 2018, 14:26:48
is it 1.25/1.25/1.25 as you would normally expect? or only the 1.25/1.25/1.5(?) that's shown on keyboard layout editor?
it's not 100% clear what's to the left, would this work: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/06eecf26b32970478f3e773e52dfa3d1
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 14 July 2018, 14:43:52
Can you clarify what bottom row layout works with a 7u space?
is it 1.25/1.25/1.25 as you would normally expect? or only the 1.25/1.25/1.5(?) that's shown on keyboard layout editor?
it's not 100% clear what's to the left, would this work: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/06eecf26b32970478f3e773e52dfa3d1
With the current plates, the only layouts that work should be the 1.25/1.25/1.25 and 1.25/1.25/1.5. The second of those should work with a 7u space, giving you 1.25/1.25/1.5/7/1/1 bottom row.
Post by: OfTheWild on Thu, 19 July 2018, 20:54:26
Post by: briannnn on Thu, 19 July 2018, 21:24:56
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 19 July 2018, 22:02:58
Would also appreciate an update since the last update quoted 1-2 months for reproduction of aluminum cases and it's been just over two months since the update.
Really sorry that I haven't been updating the GH thread, but at the moment, I am still waiting on the money to be returned to me from KP. There were some conditions that have changed from when I last updated the GH thread, but in short, I need to ship everything that remains back to them before I can get my money back. I've described it more in full on the website update and in the emails that I have sent out. I've linked the update on the website below and I strongly encourage everyone to subscribe to the update emails so you can have an idea of what is happening and when.
Most recent update:
https://switchplate.co/blogs/news/southpaw-gb-update-10
Update email subscription link:
https://switchplate.us17.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=618cf646781228a46f5914218&id=3fc437233f
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 19 July 2018, 22:28:19
(https://i.imgur.com/AKCiIjL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/H0ADKEP.jpg)
Post by: Harms on Sun, 22 July 2018, 14:34:10
If anyone experiences the same issue I had. Hit me up.
I had a driver issue where I was suppose to update the driver from lib usb to WinUsb.
After doing that via zag dig it worked like a charm. :)
Post by: MC_kb on Thu, 26 July 2018, 03:41:05
Come on people, post your build ! I need my fix.
Post by: kiwi99 on Tue, 31 July 2018, 20:35:24
(https://i.imgur.com/9zS2zbI.jpg)
Post by: UsualSuspectXXX on Tue, 31 July 2018, 21:21:53
I'll post more once it gets rebuilt once more and with a new set.. changing the switches :pShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/9zS2zbI.jpg)
Looks nice. What're your changing from? And to?
Post by: kiwi99 on Thu, 02 August 2018, 20:23:21
I'll post more once it gets rebuilt once more and with a new set.. changing the switches :pShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/9zS2zbI.jpg)
Looks nice. What're your changing from? And to?
Going from box reds to maybe some silent blacks or another linear switch not too sure, just something pcb mount instead of plate mount switches.
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Tue, 07 August 2018, 08:38:38
I'm leaning towards the aluminium case, does anyone have any tips/feelings about how the aluminium and the bent case differ? Does the bent case have some slope to it? Is the bent case sturdy? Is the aluminium case overly heavy?
I know you're running a full size southpaw right now, will there be a r2 65% or similar at some time in the future?
Post by: MC_kb on Tue, 07 August 2018, 10:16:37
Quote
Had an update from the proxy - Integrated Case no longer workable :(
Got it too :(
I'll go for a Bent Plate for $$$ reason. I'd love to read some feedback about it. Is it sturdy enough to not have a little wobble when you hit a key ?
Post by: Vadurr on Fri, 10 August 2018, 03:54:32
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Sun, 12 August 2018, 15:10:15
QuoteHad an update from the proxy - Integrated Case no longer workable :(
Got it too :(
I'll go for a Bent Plate for $$$ reason. I'd love to read some feedback about it. Is it sturdy enough to not have a little wobble when you hit a key ?
If my memory doesn't decieve me, in this thread somewhere somebody who had a bent plate said it's amazing. Rock solid, good weight, no flex etc. They were v.happy.
Only reason I went alu case is because I can't cope without that angle! Can't do with a flat board. Otherwise i'd take the bent plate right away.
Post by: MC_kb on Mon, 13 August 2018, 02:55:04
QuoteHad an update from the proxy - Integrated Case no longer workable :(
Got it too :(
I'll go for a Bent Plate for $$$ reason. I'd love to read some feedback about it. Is it sturdy enough to not have a little wobble when you hit a key ?
If my memory doesn't decieve me, in this thread somewhere somebody who had a bent plate said it's amazing. Rock solid, good weight, no flex etc. They were v.happy.
Only reason I went alu case is because I can't cope without that angle! Can't do with a flat board. Otherwise i'd take the bent plate right away.
Cool ! That's reassuring :) Thanks for the reply.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 13 August 2018, 08:57:42
Hi any updates here?
I got the remfg order from candykeys today and visited the two factories that will be doing the cases and plates. Everything looks good so funds are going to be sent to them and work should start no later than next week. Shouldn't be long from then on out.
Post by: Paopawdecarabao on Tue, 21 August 2018, 10:29:41
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Post by: Stagione on Tue, 21 August 2018, 11:26:49
Anyone selling their spot? Let me know i’m willing to take it thank you
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I have an order for a bent steel case version
Post by: Paopawdecarabao on Tue, 21 August 2018, 12:04:17
Post by: duck pauper on Mon, 03 September 2018, 13:33:13
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 03 September 2018, 15:58:53
Have the remanufactured boards been sent out? I don't believe I have received anything yet.
There were some delays in the process and I ended up doing a factory visit earlier this month so things have been pushed back a little. Everything has paid for so I'm awaiting a date of completion from the factory. I'll send out a proper update once I have a confirmed date.
Post by: complexitylvl9001 on Mon, 03 September 2018, 16:24:33
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 14 September 2018, 03:54:44
I went to visit the factory back in mid august to make sure that things were in place and everything was done as it should be as this is also the factory that will be manufacturing southpaw fs and most likely other projects in the future.
As far as sp65 is concerned, they've completed cnc work and are checking things over before they're sent to finish and anodization. I'll be sending out another update as I get an exact date, but at the moment, delivery for the reworked units is still TBA. Below is one of the cases that'll be checked over and used as a master after I get better pictures from the factory.
(https://i.imgur.com/TbsHeIR.png)
Once again, if you have any questions regarding these units that are being manufactured right now, don't hesitate to post here.
Post by: blue sky on Fri, 14 September 2018, 10:05:43
Post by: Nigolski on Fri, 14 September 2018, 14:23:32
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 16 September 2018, 22:40:56
is there any way to change the case color before they get anod?
At this point, everything is locked in as making changes to the order is a lot of work for both me and the factory.
Post by: Nigolski on Mon, 17 September 2018, 06:14:49
is there any way to change the case color before they get anod?
At this point, everything is locked in as making changes to the order is a lot of work for both me and the factory.
Thought so, but thanks for all the hard work you've put in this gb!
Post by: Tempus22 on Mon, 24 September 2018, 09:55:28
Following reconsiderit's programming guide in this thread, there are just a few additional steps in kai.tkg.io for the function and LED steps prior to flashing. Full disclosure, I've never used TKG or programmed a keyboard before in my life, so this may have been obvious to some, but I couldn't find anything online, so I wanted to put this down for anyone else struggling.
Function: I had to add a second Fn key, and set it up to toggle the underglow RGB LED's. This is located under "Built in Functions", as shown in the image below. This turns the underglow on and off.
LEDs: I got here with a good amount of trial and error, but all the led's seem to be working with the configuration shown below.
[attachimg=1]
If there are any issues with the image (It's not displaying properly in the post preview) LEDs are as follows:
LED1 Active Low Indicator Num Lock (do not check 'backlight')
LED2 Active Low Indicator Caps Lock (do not check 'backlight')
LED3 Active Low None (do not check 'backlight')
LED4 RGB LED Number of LED's = 9
I'm still waiting on keycaps and stabs before I can finalize my build, but I'll try to post some glamour shots when it's done! Thanks to reconsiderit for an awesome layout and all the work that went into (and is still going into) the GB!
Edit: One last thing I was trying but did not succeed on was getting the backlighting to toggle as well as the undgerglow. I tried setting up a third Fn key and utilized the TGK backlighting toggle feature (with 'backlight' checked for LED3, but that didn't take. If anyone else has tried and was able to get the backlighting toggle-able, it'd be awesome to know!
Post by: speaktobrett on Fri, 28 September 2018, 16:27:44
To anyone still having trouble getting the LED's to work properly on the Southpaw Extended 65%, I did a bit of trial and error and ended up with the following configuration which seems to work.
Following reconsiderit's programming guide in this thread, there are just a few additional steps in kai.tkg.io for the function and LED steps prior to flashing. Full disclosure, I've never used TKG or programmed a keyboard before in my life, so this may have been obvious to some, but I couldn't find anything online, so I wanted to put this down for anyone else struggling.
Function: I had to add a second Fn key, and set it up to toggle the underglow RGB LED's. This is located under "Built in Functions", as shown in the image below. This turns the underglow on and off.
LEDs: I got here with a good amount of trial and error, but all the led's seem to be working with the configuration shown below.
(Attachment Link)
If there are any issues with the image (It's not displaying properly in the post preview) LEDs are as follows:
LED1 Active Low Indicator Num Lock (do not check 'backlight')
LED2 Active Low Indicator Caps Lock (do not check 'backlight')
LED3 Active Low None (do not check 'backlight')
LED4 RGB LED Number of LED's = 9
I'm still waiting on keycaps and stabs before I can finalize my build, but I'll try to post some glamour shots when it's done! Thanks to reconsiderit for an awesome layout and all the work that went into (and is still going into) the GB!
Edit: One last thing I was trying but did not succeed on was getting the backlighting to toggle as well as the undgerglow. I tried setting up a third Fn key and utilized the TGK backlighting toggle feature (with 'backlight' checked for LED3, but that didn't take. If anyone else has tried and was able to get the backlighting toggle-able, it'd be awesome to know!
Nice work dude!
Do you mind sharing your full config?
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 08 October 2018, 09:56:47
I see that you've gotten samples and everything's looking good thus far. Is there any update?
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 08 October 2018, 12:35:39
@reconsiderit What is the current status of the re-manufacturing process? I haven't been keeping up with the loop and there's a lot of material to read here ;P
I see that you've gotten samples and everything's looking good thus far. Is there any update?
The laser factory just started back up yesterday and they've finished all of the plates as well as the bent plates. I'll ask for some pictures and see what they look like.
As for CNC, I haven't gotten a response back yet but I'll probably hear back today.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 08 October 2018, 19:58:13
Plates are done. Color matches the old anodization and the plates are cut nice and straight.
Post by: MC_kb on Tue, 09 October 2018, 02:34:04
Thanks for the update !
Post by: Tempus22 on Wed, 10 October 2018, 11:57:14
Nice work dude!
Do you mind sharing your full config?
Thanks, I don't mind at all! I also discovered what I believe to be the issue with toggling backlighting, but again, I know little enough that it's just a guess at this point.
Firstly, I modified the layout shared by Reconsiderit to the following:
[attachimg=1]
Layer 1 is pretty simple, basically giving me access to F keys:
[attachimg=2]
I'm using the kai.tkg.io Chrome extension with the two layers above and the following Fn and LED configuration:
[attachimg=3]
From what I can tell, both Num Lock and the individual key backlighing are controlled by the LED1 row (which Reconsiderit calls for in his programming guide). This means that if you set that row to have no binding, you can toggle it with the Fn3 key. Unfortunately in doing so, you no longer have a num lock indicator, and the led for that key just toggles with the rest of the backlighting. I've tried assigning num lock to LED2 and LED3, both to no avail.
The way that I have it set up as shown in the image, Num lock unfortunately also toggles the backlighting, so I've got it reversed just based on preference to have num lock always on when not backlit. At this point, I've also re-purposed the Fn3 key on my board to be Print Screen, because I'd rather have a useful key until I can get the LED question figured out.
If you get a chance to try anything else and have any input, feel free to share!
Post by: Myth on Mon, 29 October 2018, 00:51:19
Finished building my bent plate board today. First build ever, and I couldn't be more thrilled about the way it turned out. Kailh Pro Purple switches underneath.
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 30 October 2018, 20:25:06
Post by: MC_kb on Wed, 31 October 2018, 06:00:26
GIB SOUTHPAW
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 01 November 2018, 01:16:32
Plates arrived yesterday night. I haven't gone through all of them since I have a midterm tomorrow and need to study but I grabbed some quick pictures to throw here.
(https://i.imgur.com/5WgDNZ4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AoRs5zH.jpg)
Plate cuts are absolutely perfect. They're not as straight as an arrow, but they'll straighten themselves out when switches are clipped in. It's not anywhere near bad to the point that they didn't work at all like the last batch.
(https://i.imgur.com/izJi9MT.jpg)
Dimensions were adjusted so there is no longer a huge gap between the plate and the chassis. This also helped with plate straightness as there was more material around the boarder to keep it from bending in handling/shipping. Material is also AL6063 rather than 5051.
(https://i.imgur.com/irQbtal.jpg)
This is the issue that is holding up the cases. The front edge of the angled feet is basically a chisel and after designing a few keyboards with a little more experience, these won't hold up to post process and anodizing. Additionally, you can see how the edges on this one aren't 100% straight since they must undergo hand finishing before anodizing. Another issue caused by the thin edge. I'll be rounding the front and rear edges of the feet so they wont run into ano issues. It won't look nearly as nice but it also won't have a 99% QC fail rate compared to it being produced exactly like this.
(https://i.imgur.com/hFFt3QG.jpg)
Color matching is damn close to perfect. Just need to see how well the fab for the cases matches the colors then.
(https://i.imgur.com/qNnQ58G.jpg)
Stainless bent plates are also here. Same excellent quality as the other items. :D
Rest of the album is in the link below. Feel free to ask questions here and I'll get to them when I can.
https://imgur.com/a/AUONhJH
Post by: karankshah on Thu, 01 November 2018, 09:07:58
What's the word on when bent plates are shipping?
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 01 November 2018, 21:17:41
These look so good!
What's the word on when bent plates are shipping?
Should be some point later this month. I need to QC and count everything before I can ship.
Post by: MC_kb on Fri, 02 November 2018, 05:33:46
Thanks for the photos. You must be relieved ! After all the manufacturing issues you encountered...
Post by: bearwolfz on Fri, 02 November 2018, 06:28:34
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 02 November 2018, 23:41:44
Have they also arrived at candykeys? /hopeful European :)
Not yet. They will soon for sure though.
Post by: werewolf_blitzer on Sat, 03 November 2018, 15:41:59
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 06 November 2018, 03:53:29
Will the raw aluminum ship sooner or are they being redesigned as well?
Those are in the same batch as the other alu cases, so they'll ship at the same time those other ones will
Post by: Tempus22 on Tue, 06 November 2018, 10:30:40
Cheap version of Carbon, but it's built with older box switches, so cheap PBT is the way to go!
[attachimg=1]
Post by: speaktobrett on Mon, 12 November 2018, 17:00:20
Will the raw aluminum ship sooner or are they being redesigned as well?
Those are in the same batch as the other alu cases, so they'll ship at the same time those other ones will
Is there any chance the alu kits will arrive before Christmas?
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 12 November 2018, 18:24:02
Will the raw aluminum ship sooner or are they being redesigned as well?
Those are in the same batch as the other alu cases, so they'll ship at the same time those other ones will
Is there any chance the alu kits will arrive before Christmas?
A possibility but not likely. I still need to check in with the factory to see how things are going on their end.
Post by: speaktobrett on Wed, 21 November 2018, 23:02:51
Post by: LovelyUncle on Thu, 22 November 2018, 15:21:55
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 22 November 2018, 21:16:11
Any idea when the bent plates are shipping?
Gonna try and start getting them out the door by Monday the 26th. It's been a little busy lately but I should have some time this weekend.
Post by: LovelyUncle on Thu, 22 November 2018, 22:20:48
Any idea when the bent plates are shipping?
Gonna try and start getting them out the door by Monday the 26th. It's been a little busy lately but I should have some time this weekend.
Awesome! Looking forward to it.
Were there ever any numbers on how many boards were remanufactured?
Post by: speaktobrett on Fri, 23 November 2018, 17:38:02
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 27 November 2018, 01:24:41
Post by: blue sky on Tue, 27 November 2018, 05:59:30
Post by: edj628 on Tue, 27 November 2018, 07:42:39
Post by: kiwi99 on Tue, 27 November 2018, 13:40:58
Really taking your time with this, eh? :rolleyes:
lol what :rolleyes:
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 27 November 2018, 14:47:03
Really taking your time with this, eh? :rolleyes:
I guess its better than giving us defective products and calling it GB ended. But 1+ year though...
Post by: clickityClackity on Tue, 27 November 2018, 14:57:13
Really taking your time with this, eh? :rolleyes:
I guess its better than giving us defective products and calling it GB ended. But 1+ year though...
It's definitely better... He could've disappeared, ****ed off, or told us all to get ****ed. I say, take as long as you need, as long as we're moving forward!
Post by: blue sky on Tue, 27 November 2018, 15:45:36
I was just wondering waht happening for EU proxy ;)
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 30 November 2018, 00:15:30
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 30 November 2018, 00:23:40
Just packed all the bent plate orders up. Should be headed to the post office on Monday.
nice!
Post by: LovelyUncle on Mon, 03 December 2018, 23:38:48
Just packed all the bent plate orders up. Should be headed to the post office on Monday.
Damn can't wait!
Post by: bitsoup on Thu, 06 December 2018, 02:00:15
Post by: floristfran on Tue, 11 December 2018, 14:26:49
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 12 December 2018, 02:56:48
got my bent plate, screw holes the same size at the nuts that come with it, and idk if i could get something big enought without blocking a switch
Screws go in the front side of the bent plate. Nuts go on the bottom against the acrylic.
Post by: floristfran on Wed, 12 December 2018, 12:11:43
got my bent plate, screw holes the same size at the nuts that come with it, and idk if i could get something big enought without blocking a switch
Screws go in the front side of the bent plate. Nuts go on the bottom against the acrylic.
sorry should have said this in my original post, the screws are too small for the holes, they just fall right through, am i supposed to catch it on the edge of the plate????????
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 12 December 2018, 23:05:53
got my bent plate, screw holes the same size at the nuts that come with it, and idk if i could get something big enought without blocking a switch
Screws go in the front side of the bent plate. Nuts go on the bottom against the acrylic.
sorry should have said this in my original post, the screws are too small for the holes, they just fall right through, am i supposed to catch it on the edge of the plate????????
Ah, no the screw heads should tighten against the top side of the PCB and the nuts should go on the bottom side of the acrylic. Screws would be too short for plate+pcb+diffuser.
Post by: HowObvious on Thu, 13 December 2018, 09:06:24
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 24 December 2018, 06:24:54
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 25 December 2018, 00:14:13
Any idea when is Candykeys shipping stuff out? Or has the stuff even arrived at Candykeys yet?According to my fab, they haven't picked up the boxes yet. I'll check in with them on Wednesday after christmas to see if they've arranged for it cause last I heard from them the pickup was arranged and all.
Post by: Eturior on Tue, 25 December 2018, 05:39:33
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 26 December 2018, 04:24:24
I'm interested in one integrated case. Anyone or anywhere to get one?
Only 3 cases made it past QC as the issue was a result of the design requiring tolerances that were too tight for the manufacturing methods that needed to be used. You're probably better off seeing if you can design one yourself. Should be pretty easy with fusion and a one off from a steel fab in China should be around $150.
Post by: karankshah on Thu, 27 December 2018, 18:09:36
It's my first one, so please excuse the noob question, but just wanted to confirm how the parts are going to come together.
- Looks like the rubber washers are meant to mount onto the 4 screws. Do the washers go between the acrylic and the pcb or the pcb and the bent plate?
- I think reconsiderit mentioned that we should remove and resolder an element on the flipside of where it's currently attached - is this still necessary?
- Is there a set of steps that makes the most sense to follow as part of doing this? i.e., recommendations for another keyboard? I'm pretty comfortable soldering/desoldering, just would like to minimize any headache in putting this together incorrectly and potentially having to redo the whole thing.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 27 December 2018, 20:37:01
I'm putting together the keyboard now.
It's my first one, so please excuse the noob question, but just wanted to confirm how the parts are going to come together.
- Looks like the rubber washers are meant to mount onto the 4 screws. Do the washers go between the acrylic and the pcb or the pcb and the bent plate?
- I think reconsiderit mentioned that we should remove and resolder an element on the flipside of where it's currently attached - is this still necessary?
- Is there a set of steps that makes the most sense to follow as part of doing this? i.e., recommendations for another keyboard? I'm pretty comfortable soldering/desoldering, just would like to minimize any headache in putting this together incorrectly and potentially having to redo the whole thing.
1) So with the diffuser, from top to bottom it goes Screw, PCB, Rubber o-ring, diffuser, and then the brass nut.
2) If you do not move the reset switch, it sits higher than the o rings and will cause the diffuser to bow out a tiny bit where it's soldered. Basically just an aesthetic thing. IMO, looks better when the diffuser sits evenly all around. You can also just snip the component and reset the board by shorting the pads that are visible through the two holes in the plate between the left stabilizer cutout and the left alt cutout.
3) Just something I've done myself a few times, but test the stabilizers (esp the spacebar) before you solder. If you dont like the feel of it, you can still remove the PCB and retune them instead of having to desolder 100-something joints.
Post by: karankshah on Thu, 27 December 2018, 23:10:36
1) So with the diffuser, from top to bottom it goes Screw, PCB, Rubber o-ring, diffuser, and then the brass nut.
2) If you do not move the reset switch, it sits higher than the o rings and will cause the diffuser to bow out a tiny bit where it's soldered. Basically just an aesthetic thing. IMO, looks better when the diffuser sits evenly all around. You can also just snip the component and reset the board by shorting the pads that are visible through the two holes in the plate between the left stabilizer cutout and the left alt cutout.
3) Just something I've done myself a few times, but test the stabilizers (esp the spacebar) before you solder. If you dont like the feel of it, you can still remove the PCB and retune them instead of having to desolder 100-something joints.
Thanks for the direction!
Definitely checked the stabs just now Separately, I may or may not have realized #1 for myself when I was test-fitting a bunch of things and the screw slipped right through the hole on the plate. Also just realized that my key cap kit doesn't have any 1.5u mods for the bottom row, so have to rethink the bottom row from what I was planning.
I'm noticing a bit of a bow to the PCB - what's the best way to deal with it when soldering?
Post by: karankshah on Thu, 27 December 2018, 23:35:48
Post by: bmilcs on Fri, 28 December 2018, 10:05:17
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 29 December 2018, 04:02:12
Any updates on the Candykey's Aluminum Kits?
I'm doing manufacturing for all the alu cases. They're finalizing anodization and should be done the week of new years or so. I'll have things logistically sorted from there on out.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 29 December 2018, 04:04:50
1) So with the diffuser, from top to bottom it goes Screw, PCB, Rubber o-ring, diffuser, and then the brass nut.
2) If you do not move the reset switch, it sits higher than the o rings and will cause the diffuser to bow out a tiny bit where it's soldered. Basically just an aesthetic thing. IMO, looks better when the diffuser sits evenly all around. You can also just snip the component and reset the board by shorting the pads that are visible through the two holes in the plate between the left stabilizer cutout and the left alt cutout.
3) Just something I've done myself a few times, but test the stabilizers (esp the spacebar) before you solder. If you dont like the feel of it, you can still remove the PCB and retune them instead of having to desolder 100-something joints.
Thanks for the direction!
Definitely checked the stabs just now Separately, I may or may not have realized #1 for myself when I was test-fitting a bunch of things and the screw slipped right through the hole on the plate. Also just realized that my key cap kit doesn't have any 1.5u mods for the bottom row, so have to rethink the bottom row from what I was planning.
I'm noticing a bit of a bow to the PCB - what's the best way to deal with it when soldering?
If your PCB is bowed, your switches are probably not seated into the PCB (given that they're PCB mount). If they're plate mount, tack down a few points while pressing down on the PCB to make sure it stays down. Once you have a few points across the board, you should be able to solder the rest without issues.
The Screws sit on the PCB and hold the acrylic diffuser to the PCB. It DOES NOT hold the diffuser to the metal chassis. The screw should fall through the plate.
Post by: karankshah on Sun, 30 December 2018, 18:36:39
Put together a quick album here: https://imgur.com/a/zZU2la9
Post by: THRILLHOIAF on Thu, 03 January 2019, 10:48:52
Nice work dude!
Do you mind sharing your full config?
Thanks, I don't mind at all! I also discovered what I believe to be the issue with toggling backlighting, but again, I know little enough that it's just a guess at this point.
Firstly, I modified the layout shared by Reconsiderit to the following:
(Attachment Link)
Layer 1 is pretty simple, basically giving me access to F keys:
(Attachment Link)
I'm using the kai.tkg.io Chrome extension with the two layers above and the following Fn and LED configuration:
(Attachment Link)
From what I can tell, both Num Lock and the individual key backlighing are controlled by the LED1 row (which Reconsiderit calls for in his programming guide). This means that if you set that row to have no binding, you can toggle it with the Fn3 key. Unfortunately in doing so, you no longer have a num lock indicator, and the led for that key just toggles with the rest of the backlighting. I've tried assigning num lock to LED2 and LED3, both to no avail.
The way that I have it set up as shown in the image, Num lock unfortunately also toggles the backlighting, so I've got it reversed just based on preference to have num lock always on when not backlit. At this point, I've also re-purposed the Fn3 key on my board to be Print Screen, because I'd rather have a useful key until I can get the LED question figured out.
If you get a chance to try anything else and have any input, feel free to share!
I built my southpaw for my wife so its a pretty simple setup, obviously the 2nd layer can be more complex, but I found I required 4 FN keys to be able to toggle the RGB underglow on/off as well as switch between the color profiles
this is my setup
(https://i.imgur.com/Vas49Sg.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mmMCycw.png)
Pretty simple setup that gets the job done. have to have this setup on kai.tkg.io/ to be able to play around with RGB easily
(https://i.imgur.com/cWn93QM.png)
Layer1 data - copy into KLE and edit -
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["Num Lock","/","*","-","Esc","!\n1","@\n2","#\n3","$\n4","%\n5","^\n6","&\n7","*\n8","(\n9",")\n0","_\n-","+\n=",{w:2},"Backspace","Del"],
["7\nHome","8\nUp","9\nPgUp",{h:2},"+",{w:1.5},"Tab","Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\","PgUp"],
["4\nLeft","5","6\nRight",{x:1,w:1.75},"Caps Lock","A","S","D","F","G","H","J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter","PgDn"],
["1\nEnd","2\nDown","3\nPgDn",{h:2},"Enter",{w:2.25},"Shift","Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{w:1.75},"Shift","Up","Fn1"],
[{w:2},"0\nIns",".\nDel",{x:1,w:1.25},"Ctrl",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"Alt",{w:6.25},"Space",{w:1.5},"Alt",{w:1.5},"Menu","Left","Down","Right"]
["7\nHome","8\nUp","9\nPgUp",{h:2},"+",{w:1.5},"Tab","Q","W","E","R","T","Y","U","I","O","P","{\n[","}\n]",{w:1.5},"|\n\\","PgUp"],
["4\nLeft","5","6\nRight",{x:1,w:1.75},"Caps Lock","A","S","D","F","G","H","J","K","L",":\n;","\"\n'",{w:2.25},"Enter","PgDn"],
["1\nEnd","2\nDown","3\nPgDn",{h:2},"Enter",{w:2.25},"Shift","Z","X","C","V","B","N","M","<\n,",">\n.","?\n/",{w:1.75},"Shift","Up","Fn1"],
[{w:2},"0\nIns",".\nDel",{x:1,w:1.25},"Ctrl",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"Alt",{w:6.25},"Space",{w:1.5},"Alt",{w:1.5},"Menu","Left","Down","Right"]
Layer2 data - copy into KLE and edit however you want, just make sure you have the proper number of FN keys
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[{a:7},"","","","",{a:4},"Esc","F1","F2","F3","F4","F5","F6","F7","F8","F9","F10","F11","F12",{w:2},"Backspace","fn4"],
[{a:7},"","","",{h:2},"",{a:4,w:1.5},"Tab",{a:7},"","","","","","","","","","","","",{w:1.5},"",{a:4},"Fn3"],
[{a:7},"","","",{x:1,a:4,w:1.75},"Caps lock",{a:7},"","","","","","","","","","","",{a:4,w:2.25},"enter","FN2"],
[{a:7},"","","",{h:2},"",{a:4,w:2.25},"shift",{a:7},"","","","","","","","","","",{a:4,w:1.75},"shift","up","FN1"],
[{a:7,w:2},"","",{x:1,a:4,w:1.25},"ctrl",{w:1.25},"win",{w:1.25},"alt",{w:6.25},"space",{a:7,w:1.5},"",{w:1.5},"",{a:4},"left","down","right"]
[{a:7},"","","",{h:2},"",{a:4,w:1.5},"Tab",{a:7},"","","","","","","","","","","","",{w:1.5},"",{a:4},"Fn3"],
[{a:7},"","","",{x:1,a:4,w:1.75},"Caps lock",{a:7},"","","","","","","","","","","",{a:4,w:2.25},"enter","FN2"],
[{a:7},"","","",{h:2},"",{a:4,w:2.25},"shift",{a:7},"","","","","","","","","","",{a:4,w:1.75},"shift","up","FN1"],
[{a:7,w:2},"","",{x:1,a:4,w:1.25},"ctrl",{w:1.25},"win",{w:1.25},"alt",{w:6.25},"space",{a:7,w:1.5},"",{w:1.5},"",{a:4},"left","down","right"]
Post by: HowObvious on Mon, 07 January 2019, 15:04:42
Post by: bearwolfz on Tue, 15 January 2019, 02:07:18
Any news on Candykeys picking them up yet?
Has anyone heard anything? I now have two different orders from candykeys that's around 1 years old. And one was "in stock" when i ordered. :))
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 15 January 2019, 02:34:33
Any news on Candykeys picking them up yet?
Has anyone heard anything? I now have two different orders from candykeys that's around 1 years old. And one was "in stock" when i ordered. :))
Plates picked up. Not 100% sure on PCBs. I'll check again
Post by: bearwolfz on Tue, 15 January 2019, 02:36:18
Any news on Candykeys picking them up yet?
Has anyone heard anything? I now have two different orders from candykeys that's around 1 years old. And one was "in stock" when i ordered. :))
Plates picked up. Not 100% sure on PCBs. I'll check again
Okay! Thanks for answering fast and checking! :)
Post by: bmilcs on Fri, 18 January 2019, 18:25:48
Any updates on the Candykey's Aluminum Kits?
I'm doing manufacturing for all the alu cases. They're finalizing anodization and should be done the week of new years or so. I'll have things logistically sorted from there on out.
Any updates? Pictures?
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Mon, 21 January 2019, 15:31:38
Any updates on the Candykey's Aluminum Kits?
I'm doing manufacturing for all the alu cases. They're finalizing anodization and should be done the week of new years or so. I'll have things logistically sorted from there on out.
How's the timescale looking on these?
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 24 January 2019, 03:47:06
Factory has redone some of the cases since they didn't quite pass their QC between hand polishing and sandblasting. They want to anodize everything at once since it's not something done in house since the government cracked down and basically got rid of most anodization factories in the area.
To sum it up, atm, everything is at the sandblasted stage save for the few units that did not make it past QC. They are being remade and will go to anodizing after CNY break. For this factory, that would be February 14th.
To assure everyone that I have not pulled a tam nam skam and gone into a coma with GB funds, here are pics provided by the factory.
(https://i.imgur.com/79DdcHl.jpg)
And here is the pre production unit made by the factory that I do not think I shared here.
(https://i.imgur.com/zsft2aC.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Mv1qzZ2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LAW1CeV.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/JlsQSbE.jpg)
Lighting is poor and the color looks kinda like a washed out teal. It's a little brighter and quite a bit cooler than what you see on the screen.
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As for future timeline, I'm going to try to get things done as soon as possible. I understand that some of you are frustrated with having to wait this long but I appreciate that everyone has been this patient. I want to get things done right this time around so I am being thorough with every step for the sake of my sanity and my wallet since I dont want to have to go through this all over again, for the third time.
Post by: Nigolski on Thu, 24 January 2019, 07:47:49
Sorry for the lack of updates again.
Factory has redone some of the cases since they didn't quite pass their QC between hand polishing and sandblasting. They want to anodize everything at once since it's not something done in house since the government cracked down and basically got rid of most anodization factories in the area.
To sum it up, atm, everything is at the sandblasted stage save for the few units that did not make it past QC. They are being remade and will go to anodizing after CNY break. For this factory, that would be February 14th.
To assure everyone that I have not pulled a tam nam skam and gone into a coma with GB funds, here are pics provided by the factory.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/79DdcHl.jpg)
And here is the pre production unit made by the factory that I do not think I shared here.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zsft2aC.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Mv1qzZ2.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LAW1CeV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JlsQSbE.jpg)
Lighting is poor and the color looks kinda like a washed out teal. It's a little brighter and quite a bit cooler than what you see on the screen.
----
As for future timeline, I'm going to try to get things done as soon as possible. I understand that some of you are frustrated with having to wait this long but I appreciate that everyone has been this patient. I want to get things done right this time around so I am being thorough with every step for the sake of my sanity and my wallet since I dont want to have to go through this all over again, for the third time.
fingers crossed that everything goes as planned
Post by: green_mmq on Tue, 29 January 2019, 13:59:13
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 31 January 2019, 14:46:26
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Dear GB Participants!
We are aware some people are asking questions on the progress of this GB, the last newsletter was sometime ago stating that components are on their way, which they truthfuly were, but we were not aware that 1 part of the keyboards have still not arrived and the Host of the GB is making sure that the Manufacturer still ships them. At the moment we are not getting clear answers as to why they have not been shipped yet but we hope to have them soon as our courier has also tried picking up the last pieces but the host has not been able to explain as in why they got rejected. We are only waiting now for the last components, we have already started piecing together and preparing orders.
Post by: bmilcs on Thu, 31 January 2019, 19:45:34
Update from Candykeys Jan 25QuoteDear GB Participants!
We are aware some people are asking questions on the progress of this GB, the last newsletter was sometime ago stating that components are on their way, which they truthfuly were, but we were not aware that 1 part of the keyboards have still not arrived and the Host of the GB is making sure that the Manufacturer still ships them. At the moment we are not getting clear answers as to why they have not been shipped yet but we hope to have them soon as our courier has also tried picking up the last pieces but the host has not been able to explain as in why they got rejected. We are only waiting now for the last components, we have already started piecing together and preparing orders.
Hmm, the host as in @reconsiderit? Should we be concerned?
The duration of this group buy is bordering absurd at this point. From the sounds of it, there truly have been legitimate reasons for delay.
Can I has my keebs now? Pretty please.
Post by: davidkoleda on Sat, 02 February 2019, 19:28:27
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 03 February 2019, 04:47:38
Update from Candykeys Jan 25QuoteDear GB Participants!
We are aware some people are asking questions on the progress of this GB, the last newsletter was sometime ago stating that components are on their way, which they truthfuly were, but we were not aware that 1 part of the keyboards have still not arrived and the Host of the GB is making sure that the Manufacturer still ships them. At the moment we are not getting clear answers as to why they have not been shipped yet but we hope to have them soon as our courier has also tried picking up the last pieces but the host has not been able to explain as in why they got rejected. We are only waiting now for the last components, we have already started piecing together and preparing orders.
Hmm, the host as in @reconsiderit? Should we be concerned?
The duration of this group buy is bordering absurd at this point. From the sounds of it, there truly have been legitimate reasons for delay.
Can I has my keebs now? Pretty please.
The PCBs are still at KPrepublic. CK has sent me labels and I've forwarded them to KP. They haven't had any luck scheduling pickup for paperwork related reasons and due to how it's CNY, I've been told by them that I'll need to wait for China to start back up before they will be able to ship.
I'm updated my end of things tomorrow with manufacturing and all of the aluminum cases. Story short, a few items failed QC so they were remachined and will be anodized after the CNY break.
Post by: HowObvious on Mon, 04 February 2019, 10:46:32
The PCBs are still at KPrepublic. CK has sent me labels and I've forwarded them to KP. They haven't had any luck scheduling pickup for paperwork related reasons and due to how it's CNY, I've been told by them that I'll need to wait for China to start back up before they will be able to ship.
I'm updated my end of things tomorrow with manufacturing and all of the aluminum cases. Story short, a few items failed QC so they were remachined and will be anodized after the CNY break.
Is there any chance of getting an ETA even if its just a rough one, at this point I have no idea how long its going to take and all that's happening is I'm watching the months go by.
Post by: Pings on Fri, 08 February 2019, 10:50:56
Post by: wellbeing44 on Sun, 10 February 2019, 08:16:26
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 13 February 2019, 10:48:53
Any chance of a second round for this?
Don't know, but current buyers still haven't been fulfilled yet and we have been waiting for 15+ months now.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 14 February 2019, 22:41:49
Any chance of a second round for this?
When I finish the current round and run something else I've had planned for a long while.
Post by: MC_kb on Mon, 18 February 2019, 07:46:24
Edit: typo
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 18 February 2019, 08:39:39
Southpaw 65% bent plate + PCB
pm to discuss
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 21 February 2019, 02:09:58
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 21 February 2019, 06:37:06
quick update again. Alu cases are about 2 weeks out according to my factory rep. Translates to about a month to shipping from me to you.
I also got the mail from CandyKeys about them soon receiving everything. How is that possible if the alu cases aren't done/shipped yet? Does the factory ship straight to the EU proxy or does it all go by you first? Just curious. I have faith in this and can't wait for the boards to reach everyone :)
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 24 February 2019, 01:55:41
quick update again. Alu cases are about 2 weeks out according to my factory rep. Translates to about a month to shipping from me to you.
I also got the mail from CandyKeys about them soon receiving everything. How is that possible if the alu cases aren't done/shipped yet? Does the factory ship straight to the EU proxy or does it all go by you first? Just curious. I have faith in this and can't wait for the boards to reach everyone :)
They should be recieving the PCBs and the bent plates soon. Those are shipping straight from CN to them.
Post by: Bubblegum on Sun, 24 February 2019, 08:48:21
quick update again. Alu cases are about 2 weeks out according to my factory rep. Translates to about a month to shipping from me to you.
I also got the mail from CandyKeys about them soon receiving everything. How is that possible if the alu cases aren't done/shipped yet? Does the factory ship straight to the EU proxy or does it all go by you first? Just curious. I have faith in this and can't wait for the boards to reach everyone :)
They should be recieving the PCBs and the bent plates soon. Those are shipping straight from CN to them.
Thanks for the clarification! Excited for this :)
Post by: lac29 on Thu, 07 March 2019, 08:28:02
Post by: tigerali on Fri, 08 March 2019, 16:37:54
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 09 March 2019, 23:57:23
Yeah are there any updates?
So the anodizing factory lost the anodization samples that I left with my main factory earlier last year when I visited. I'll be shipping them new samples on Monday with DHL and am going to hope that they get things done in a timely manner.
With the amount of time and money lost in these manufacturing issues and delays I'm almost in the red. It's been over a year and I just want this to end. I'll be damn happy when the last one goes out the door and gets delivered, but till then, I'll still be working to get these delivered.
Post by: HowObvious on Sun, 10 March 2019, 13:02:12
So the anodizing factory lost the anodization samples that I left with my main factory earlier last year when I visited. I'll be shipping them new samples on Monday with DHL and am going to hope that they get things done in a timely manner.
With the amount of time and money lost in these manufacturing issues and delays I'm almost in the red. It's been over a year and I just want this to end. I'll be damn happy when the last one goes out the door and gets delivered, but till then, I'll still be working to get these delivered.
How about the bent plates? Specifically Candykeys, did they pick them up?
Post by: tigerali on Wed, 13 March 2019, 23:38:06
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 21 March 2019, 03:27:06
Post by: HowObvious on Thu, 21 March 2019, 05:39:33
"Thanks for the mail,
I will be getting a update on the location of the pieces tomorrow, it really would be great if the things came now but the host of the GB yet again is proving to be unreliable."
I have no idea what is going on at this point. I just want an update.
Post by: green_mmq on Thu, 21 March 2019, 16:28:37
Post by: tigerali on Fri, 22 March 2019, 20:00:54
Post by: grossvogel on Sat, 23 March 2019, 05:05:43
So the anodizing factory lost the anodization samples that I left with my main factory earlier last year when I visited. I'll be shipping them new samples on Monday with DHL and am going to hope that they get things done in a timely manner.Looking at the group buy numbers that you published on your website, it seems that roughly 30 per cent of CNC cases don't need to be anodized. Surely you can ship them to those who went for the raw aluminum option?
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 23 March 2019, 05:44:32
Candykeys Shipping
I've forwarded the labels which were generated by Candykeys to KP, the original manufacturer of the GB items a long while back. Even with many attempts at explaining what to do, they've not been able to simply call DHL and have the package containing the PCBs picked up. I called DHL last week and scheduled pickup myself but the packages still have not been picked up. KP claims that DHL never came. The tracking shows no update so I'll give a go at contacting DHL CN again to see if an attempt to pick up was ever made.
Raw Cases
I'll do what is suggested and arrange what I can with my factory on those.
Regarding the anodized ones, I've sent the color samples to China and they should arrive in the coming week.
Post by: edj628 on Mon, 25 March 2019, 22:02:34
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 26 March 2019, 03:27:31
Post by: Nigolski on Tue, 26 March 2019, 07:42:00
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 26 March 2019, 15:32:59
Post by: duck pauper on Sat, 30 March 2019, 23:29:42
Post by: Bubblegum on Mon, 08 April 2019, 07:26:15
Post by: green_mmq on Tue, 09 April 2019, 22:12:10
Can I switch my order to an unannodized case? You can keep the extra money I paid for annodization. At this point I just want the keyboard sooner rather than later.
What color anodization I have a raw order and may be willing to switch depending which color you had?
Post by: tigerali on Fri, 12 April 2019, 21:15:50
Any status update on the alu cases progress?
This, this, 1000x this.
Post by: Snakeboat on Sun, 14 April 2019, 05:30:15
Post by: lac29 on Sun, 14 April 2019, 06:41:20
Post by: duck pauper on Thu, 18 April 2019, 00:26:25
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 18 April 2019, 01:40:27
Any possibility of getting regularly scheduled updates? People are pretty forgiving if communication is provided.
I would also prefer regular updates, even saying there's no news, over radio silence.
Post by: tentboy on Thu, 18 April 2019, 10:32:06
Post by: tigerali on Sun, 21 April 2019, 01:31:55
Post by: HowObvious on Sun, 21 April 2019, 13:55:00
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Southpaw 65+
Anodization samples didn't seem to have made it to China. This is just further delaying things so will be matching the items I have on hand to pantone codes then sending them over tomorrow. Will update once anodization starts.
Doesnt have any information for the rest of us......
Post by: briannnn on Sun, 21 April 2019, 16:08:26
Post by: tigerali on Sun, 21 April 2019, 22:51:21
Post by: frankh on Mon, 22 April 2019, 10:51:31
Post by: Nigolski on Mon, 22 April 2019, 13:49:23
newb here, what keycap set is used on the preview images? thx
gmk yuri
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 22 April 2019, 14:27:29
Post by: frankh on Mon, 22 April 2019, 16:04:21
gmk yuri
thanks a lot :)
Post by: LovelyUncle on Tue, 23 April 2019, 02:37:02
Has NA received their redone bent plates? Or its only EU that is waiting?
NA received bent plates in November/December.
Post by: blue sky on Tue, 23 April 2019, 15:09:51
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If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us by responding to this e-mail, we will reply shortly.
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Post by: HowObvious on Fri, 26 April 2019, 13:24:13
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So update is, we are waiting on straight wires of the stabs to come, we have tested the baord it does not work with the retro Cherry Official stabs so we just need to get those in. I do apologise. We have the GMK wires but apparently that is not so easy to simply “change”
Dont think I'll be using Candykeys again in the future, nothing but problems with changing my delivery address (every time I email back to check the change it hasn't, 3 times now) and now they arent even keeping us updated without having to email them.
Post by: Bubblegum on Sat, 27 April 2019, 04:25:22
Emailed Candykeys again today (emailed them once a week for the past month since they began "Processing" my order").QuoteSo update is, we are waiting on straight wires of the stabs to come, we have tested the baord it does not work with the retro Cherry Official stabs so we just need to get those in. I do apologise. We have the GMK wires but apparently that is not so easy to simply “change”
Dont think I'll be using Candykeys again in the future, nothing but problems with changing my delivery address (every time I email back to check the change it hasn't, 3 times now) and now they arent even keeping us updated without having to email them.
Only had good experiences with CandyKeys. Once an item was missing in my order it was promptly sent out and fixed. Also really fast replies to email, sometimes even during weekends. No idea what is going on with this GB, but it seems no one does. Would recommend CandyKeys outside of this GB at least.
Back to topic. From the switchplate.co project updates it looks like aluminium CNC cases have been awaiting anodization since at least early december. String of bad luck I guess, but this is getting as frustrating as the Kira TKL GB. This is the first custom keyboard GB I joined and the one that will probably get fulfilled after the others. Don't want to be negative, but it isn't easy.
Post by: green_mmq on Sun, 28 April 2019, 22:49:42
String of bad luck I guess, but this is getting as frustrating as the Kira TKL GB.
A string of bad luck is one way to put it. But I think most of us are probably pretty understanding about manufacturing issues, especially when working on small boutique orders with subcontractors overseas. I'm sure there is nothing easy about coordinating all these products with the manufacturers, especially from some of the issues that have been layed out in previous posts. **** happens, things get delayed, c'est la vie. I feel like delays are pretty easily overlooked if there is effective communication about what is going on.
The real issue is reconsiderit has recently been failing to communicate what is happening in this process. His last post was 36 days ago. We' ve all put money into this and deserve to know what is going on. Checking in weekly (or at least monthly) with an update, even if there has been "no change", should be expected when a product has been delayed this long. As investors, we need to hold him accountable. I suggest everyone grab a pitchfork and we riot.
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Post by: bearwolfz on Mon, 29 April 2019, 02:10:45
I know a lot of people have positive experiences from Candykeys, but the only other thing i ordered from them, a coil of solder and the knock off Carbon ISO keyset still hasn't showed up. Ordered May 2018. A keyset that was "in stock", then maybe wasn't? Then the solder wasn't available i guess? Then something about the delivery failed, which is improbable since i order to my work adress at a huge public service company that has it's own mail sorting room and staff. :rolleyes:
Now i've just given up hope of anything from Candykeys ever arriving :))
But maybe i'll see the bent plate some day!
Post by: Krazzios on Fri, 03 May 2019, 12:41:11
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Had a long talk with the factory over these two projects and it seems that the reason they're not being done at an adequate pace is that they've pushed other things ahead of it due to order volume. This factory is a larger one and also handles orders that are many times larger than what we are doing. It's understandable that they prioritize those orders but I have cleared the issue up with them and will try to get things made as soon as possible. I am still discussing with the rep to see when the boards will be completed so I can give everyone a concrete ETA.
Southpaw Fullsize is being hand finished right now. They've found some issues I've pointed out during my visit and are remaking some parts such as the tops due to inconsistencies in the chamfers. The remaining units that do not have this issue are being serialized and hand finished in order to achieve the 'seamless' look. I will see what the situation on the remade tops are and decide on how anodizing will progress once I know.
Pantone colors for Southpaw 65 have been sent to the manufacturer. They should be starting shortly. I'll request pictures as they finish up.
https://switchplate.co/blogs/news/early-may-group-buy-updates (https://switchplate.co/blogs/news/early-may-group-buy-updates)
It's not much, but at least it's something.
Post by: Snakeboat on Mon, 06 May 2019, 16:57:28
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 09 May 2019, 00:30:45
CK should have no received the PCBs and bent plates. I still need to send them hardware for it. That part of the delay is completely on me and I'm sorry about that. I plan to have it out to them next week.
As for the cases, the communication with the factory isn't great. I get about one reply a day and it's not comprehensive. They're doing work, but the lack of communication is slowing everything down. They should have finished anodizing things by now as its not in-house and shouldn't have a queue, but they have not. I am not sure why that is but I need to look into it. Same goes with the raw cases. The rep sent me a picture of the boards packaged up in a box last week but still hasn't gotten me a quote for shipping.
I'm getting through finals at school right now so I might not be the most responsive but I am trying to get as much done as possible though the communication between me and the factory is whats slowing things down the most.
Will update on the website as we go. If anyone has any serious concerns, please send me an email.
Post by: Krazzios on Thu, 09 May 2019, 11:04:30
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Dear GB Participants!
So finally after all this time we have managed to get through the orders one by one and figure out what is missing and not. So we are happy to report all orders should be fulfilled as expected, however: At the moment there is a shortage of Aluminium Cases *The 1 piece CNC cases* that were not delivered by Mill *The host* and he has mailed us and noted that there was a delay, hence we did not receive them. We are happy to report that all orders that have the Bent Plate Case are complete. (You should have been notified about this nearly a year ago that the IC case was not going to happen, asking for a switch to CNC Case or Bent Plate Case) The other thing not avialable is the feet for the cases, which we will be getting from another source ourselves. (Probably KBDFans) We have also realised that many people who ordered the Bent Plate case ordered feet, the feet are not compatible with the bent plate from what we see, if this is a error on our half, please let us know that you want the feet with your bent plate. The PCBs look in great condition, the Cases from what we have also look awesome, so it looks like the GB will end well for everyone in the end! We do apologize about the waiting time, we do not have a ETA for the cases from Mill but he said shortly, we will notify you personally in inbox if you are awaiting the CNC case.
Post by: HowObvious on Thu, 09 May 2019, 14:00:35
Hey everyone, I am sorry for the lack of updates here on GH. I've been trying to update more often on the website since not everyone in the GB is on GH.
CK should have no received the PCBs and bent plates. I still need to send them hardware for it. That part of the delay is completely on me and I'm sorry about that. I plan to have it out to them next week.
Wait so they have or haven't received everything they need? Their update just now says "We are happy to report that all orders that have the Bent Plate Case are complete"
They said they had everything 6 weeks ago and were processing everything and then 2 weeks ago said they were waiting on different stabs as the ones they had didnt fit.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 09 May 2019, 16:34:49
Hey everyone, I am sorry for the lack of updates here on GH. I've been trying to update more often on the website since not everyone in the GB is on GH.
CK should have no received the PCBs and bent plates. I still need to send them hardware for it. That part of the delay is completely on me and I'm sorry about that. I plan to have it out to them next week.
Wait so they have or haven't received everything they need? Their update just now says "We are happy to report that all orders that have the Bent Plate Case are complete"
They said they had everything 6 weeks ago and were processing everything and then 2 weeks ago said they were waiting on different stabs as the ones they had didnt fit.
I'm not sure what the reason for the stabs not fitting are. I've test all stabs (cherry snap in, GMK screw in, epbt screw in) and they all fit.
They've received everything but the hardware needed for the bent case. I will be shipping those to them soon. Seems that there was a misunderstanding with the rubber feet as I have those too so I'll email them about that asap.
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 10 May 2019, 03:21:55
Post by: Nigolski on Fri, 10 May 2019, 03:37:46
this has to be the longest GB in mechanicalkeyboard history!
nah
Post by: euphxenos on Fri, 10 May 2019, 07:36:44
I'm not blaming on you reconsiderit, but this has to be the longest GB in mechanicalkeyboard history!
Not even close. Check out the threads for the Ellipse reproduction model F, or the Mathias 60% with arrows, both of which are still open and pre-date this by years. There might be others that have taken even longer; I don't know.
Post by: speaktobrett on Mon, 20 May 2019, 00:48:51
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 20 May 2019, 17:59:45
So when do you expect the southpaw alu orders to be shipped out?
I dont have an ETA from the factory and don't want to give any dates yet, but the factory has said that they're anodizing both southpaw fullsize and southpaw 65 yesterday and asked me to confirm numbers and colors so we're getting there.
Post by: tentboy on Wed, 22 May 2019, 15:13:35
So when do you expect the southpaw alu orders to be shipped out?
I dont have an ETA from the factory and don't want to give any dates yet, but the factory has said that they're anodizing both southpaw fullsize and southpaw 65 yesterday and asked me to confirm numbers and colors so we're getting there.
Awesome news!
I purchased a group buy spot from someone for the aluminum case and took over their exact order, which included the cone feet. does the case still come with the stands shown in the prototype and the cone feet or have they been replaced?
Post by: Nigolski on Thu, 23 May 2019, 08:15:28
Post by: HowObvious on Sun, 02 June 2019, 11:49:04
Its been over 2 months now since they started processing my order, emailed them 2 weeks ago and they said they would send the tracking number the next day, they didnt. Emailed back every couple of days and got the same answer.... Last email was 5 days ago.
Post by: Krazzios on Sun, 02 June 2019, 18:41:20
Post by: HowObvious on Sun, 02 June 2019, 20:33:26
Post by: euphxenos on Thu, 06 June 2019, 18:33:20
So when do you expect the southpaw alu orders to be shipped out?
I dont have an ETA from the factory and don't want to give any dates yet, but the factory has said that they're anodizing both southpaw fullsize and southpaw 65 yesterday and asked me to confirm numbers and colors so we're getting there.
Is there any news from the factory about how anodizing is going?
Post by: Krazzios on Fri, 07 June 2019, 14:12:01
I appreciate production time and delays, but it can't be impossible to at least get an update from the factory. Hell, make something up. At this point I'd rather be fed lies than be kept in the dark.
Post by: euphxenos on Mon, 10 June 2019, 13:23:32
Post by: euphxenos on Mon, 10 June 2019, 20:21:34
https://discord.gg/HeCgWR
In the southpaw-65 channel, reconsiderit posted this last Thursday:
"They've finished anodizing but a few failed QC.
There's some pretty signifigant grain on the bottom of some of them and it's a result of the material not being extruded cleanly
an issue on the material supplier's side, not the factory's so they're seeing what they can do"
and there are three pictures showing some real anodized Southpaw 65 cases and feet:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446011953060773889/586101842468012033/mmexport1559807921654.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446011953060773889/586101843168329738/mmexport1559807937974.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446011953060773889/586101843168329739/mmexport1559807944862.jpg
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 11 June 2019, 14:32:23
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 12 June 2019, 17:16:03
Someone posted in the Southpaw Full Size GB thread that reconsiderit posted on some Discord server that there's a problem with the anodizing and estimated that shipping is still a couple months out. I have no idea how much of that is relevant to the Southpaw 65%, but my understanding was that the Southpaw 65% and full size were both going through anodizing together at the same factory. There were a couple of pictures of red and blue anodized cases, which is at least evidence that the factory has actually started work on anodizing. If anyone knows which Discord server reconsiderit is posting updates to, please let the rest of us in on it.
The anodizing for both of them have gone smoothly, but the issue with the southpaw 65 cases are that the material itself is grainy. It's something that can't be caught until anodizing so it was something out of the factory's reach.
I'm working with them on resolving this. At the moment, I'm debating between moving to a coarser sandblast and re-anodizing or seeing if they're willing to remake with better material.
Post by: grossvogel on Wed, 12 June 2019, 18:00:32
At the moment, I'm debating between moving to a coarser sandblast and re-anodizing or seeing if they're willing to remake with better material.Um, don't you think that this decision should be put to a vote? Unless the issues you describe are very visible and severe, I can't imagine most people on this group buy voting to increase the waiting time by an indeterminate number of months.
Oh, and you still have plenty of orders for non-anodized, raw aluminum cases that could have been fulfilled months ago. :(
Post by: euphxenos on Wed, 12 June 2019, 19:55:50
Post by: megahyder on Sat, 15 June 2019, 15:16:56
However I'm having an issue mounting the switch for my iso-enter. Honestly it feels like the plate is in the way, like the hole isn't big enough or its not cut properly. Well I mean I hope it's just me being an idiot but can someone have a look at these pics and let me know who you think?
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Post by: HowObvious on Tue, 18 June 2019, 09:34:10
I just got my order from Candykeys today. Gotta say I'm really impressed with the heft of the bent plate case.
However I'm having an issue mounting the switch for my iso-enter. Honestly it feels like the plate is in the way, like the hole isn't big enough or its not cut properly. Well I mean I hope it's just me being an idiot but can someone have a look at these pics and let me know who you think?
Got mine today and yeah I have the same, it seems like the plate doesn't fit the PCB. If you place just the switch on the plate with no PCB and then try to put the keycap on it wont fit due to the keys to the left being too close.
We may have to file down the plate on the right side of the mount.
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 18 June 2019, 21:31:09
I just got my order from Candykeys today. Gotta say I'm really impressed with the heft of the bent plate case.
However I'm having an issue mounting the switch for my iso-enter. Honestly it feels like the plate is in the way, like the hole isn't big enough or its not cut properly. Well I mean I hope it's just me being an idiot but can someone have a look at these pics and let me know who you think?
Got mine today and yeah I have the same, it seems like the plate doesn't fit the PCB. If you place just the switch on the plate with no PCB and then try to put the keycap on it wont fit due to the keys to the left being too close.
We may have to file down the plate on the right side of the mount.
Hey guys, I just checked on my production file and it's completely my fault that the cutout doesn't line up. I accidentally offset the ISO cutout at some point between creating the footprint and combining the plate element together.
You'll need to take a file to the plate and extend the switch cutout to the switchtop removal line. For the stabilizers, they should barely fit underneath the plate. Check the wire to make sure that it doesn't hit the plate upon full extension.
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 19 June 2019, 02:14:37
I just got my order from Candykeys today. Gotta say I'm really impressed with the heft of the bent plate case.
However I'm having an issue mounting the switch for my iso-enter. Honestly it feels like the plate is in the way, like the hole isn't big enough or its not cut properly. Well I mean I hope it's just me being an idiot but can someone have a look at these pics and let me know who you think?
Got mine today and yeah I have the same, it seems like the plate doesn't fit the PCB. If you place just the switch on the plate with no PCB and then try to put the keycap on it wont fit due to the keys to the left being too close.
We may have to file down the plate on the right side of the mount.
Hey guys, I just checked on my production file and it's completely my fault that the cutout doesn't line up. I accidentally offset the ISO cutout at some point between creating the footprint and combining the plate element together.
You'll need to take a file to the plate and extend the switch cutout to the switchtop removal line. For the stabilizers, they should barely fit underneath the plate. Check the wire to make sure that it doesn't hit the plate upon full extension.
Is this an issue for alu case+plate also?
Post by: bearwolfz on Wed, 19 June 2019, 04:10:19
Hey guys, I just checked on my production file and it's completely my fault that the cutout doesn't line up. I accidentally offset the ISO cutout at some point between creating the footprint and combining the plate element together.
You'll need to take a file to the plate and extend the switch cutout to the switchtop removal line. For the stabilizers, they should barely fit underneath the plate. Check the wire to make sure that it doesn't hit the plate upon full extension.
I can't believe after all this time, that if i ever recieve my bent plate from Candykeys that i still need to take a file and modify the plate myself to get my iso enter in there :))
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 19 June 2019, 15:04:12
I just got my order from Candykeys today. Gotta say I'm really impressed with the heft of the bent plate case.
However I'm having an issue mounting the switch for my iso-enter. Honestly it feels like the plate is in the way, like the hole isn't big enough or its not cut properly. Well I mean I hope it's just me being an idiot but can someone have a look at these pics and let me know who you think?
Got mine today and yeah I have the same, it seems like the plate doesn't fit the PCB. If you place just the switch on the plate with no PCB and then try to put the keycap on it wont fit due to the keys to the left being too close.
We may have to file down the plate on the right side of the mount.
Hey guys, I just checked on my production file and it's completely my fault that the cutout doesn't line up. I accidentally offset the ISO cutout at some point between creating the footprint and combining the plate element together.
You'll need to take a file to the plate and extend the switch cutout to the switchtop removal line. For the stabilizers, they should barely fit underneath the plate. Check the wire to make sure that it doesn't hit the plate upon full extension.
Is this an issue for alu case+plate also?
Unfortunately yes. I used the same file as a basis for both the standalone and the bent plate options.
Post by: euphxenos on Thu, 20 June 2019, 13:33:09
I just got my order from Candykeys today. Gotta say I'm really impressed with the heft of the bent plate case.
However I'm having an issue mounting the switch for my iso-enter. Honestly it feels like the plate is in the way, like the hole isn't big enough or its not cut properly. Well I mean I hope it's just me being an idiot but can someone have a look at these pics and let me know who you think?
Got mine today and yeah I have the same, it seems like the plate doesn't fit the PCB. If you place just the switch on the plate with no PCB and then try to put the keycap on it wont fit due to the keys to the left being too close.
We may have to file down the plate on the right side of the mount.
Hey guys, I just checked on my production file and it's completely my fault that the cutout doesn't line up. I accidentally offset the ISO cutout at some point between creating the footprint and combining the plate element together.
You'll need to take a file to the plate and extend the switch cutout to the switchtop removal line. For the stabilizers, they should barely fit underneath the plate. Check the wire to make sure that it doesn't hit the plate upon full extension.
Is this an issue for alu case+plate also?
Unfortunately yes. I used the same file as a basis for both the standalone and the bent plate options.
That sounds like you're not planning to correct it in the unshipped plates before you ship them. Why don't you correct the plate file and make that available to us? Then people who want to use an ISO layout could at least have an easy path to get their own plate cut. Given how fast this group buy is going, anyone who wants to do that will probably have their custom plate long before you ship the cases.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 20 June 2019, 16:10:23
I just got my order from Candykeys today. Gotta say I'm really impressed with the heft of the bent plate case.
However I'm having an issue mounting the switch for my iso-enter. Honestly it feels like the plate is in the way, like the hole isn't big enough or its not cut properly. Well I mean I hope it's just me being an idiot but can someone have a look at these pics and let me know who you think?
Got mine today and yeah I have the same, it seems like the plate doesn't fit the PCB. If you place just the switch on the plate with no PCB and then try to put the keycap on it wont fit due to the keys to the left being too close.
We may have to file down the plate on the right side of the mount.
Hey guys, I just checked on my production file and it's completely my fault that the cutout doesn't line up. I accidentally offset the ISO cutout at some point between creating the footprint and combining the plate element together.
You'll need to take a file to the plate and extend the switch cutout to the switchtop removal line. For the stabilizers, they should barely fit underneath the plate. Check the wire to make sure that it doesn't hit the plate upon full extension.
Is this an issue for alu case+plate also?
Unfortunately yes. I used the same file as a basis for both the standalone and the bent plate options.
That sounds like you're not planning to correct it in the unshipped plates before you ship them. Why don't you correct the plate file and make that available to us? Then people who want to use an ISO layout could at least have an easy path to get their own plate cut. Given how fast this group buy is going, anyone who wants to do that will probably have their custom plate long before you ship the cases.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll do that tonight.
If anyone needs plate files I'm more than happy to send them out.
Post by: green_mmq on Fri, 21 June 2019, 10:55:26
Oh, and you still have plenty of orders for non-anodized, raw aluminum cases that could have been fulfilled months ago. :(
Wait a minute, so have the Raw orders been shipped? Are they all complete? If so, why the **** have I been waiting so long?
Post by: euphxenos on Fri, 21 June 2019, 12:32:37
Oh, and you still have plenty of orders for non-anodized, raw aluminum cases that could have been fulfilled months ago. :(
Wait a minute, so have the Raw orders been shipped? Are they all complete? If so, why the **** have I been waiting so long?
It sounds like the raw aluminum cases are still in China with the rest of the aluminum cases. The only thing I can think of is that maybe he's trying to save a few bucks on shipping by waiting to ship the raw cases with the anodized cases after the anodizing is done, but that seems like a pretty ridiculous reason to make all the raw case orders wait for several extra months.
Post by: Vadurr on Fri, 21 June 2019, 18:00:57
Oh, and you still have plenty of orders for non-anodized, raw aluminum cases that could have been fulfilled months ago. :(
Wait a minute, so have the Raw orders been shipped? Are they all complete? If so, why the **** have I been waiting so long?
It sounds like the raw aluminum cases are still in China with the rest of the aluminum cases. The only thing I can think of is that maybe he's trying to save a few bucks on shipping by waiting to ship the raw cases with the anodized cases after the anodizing is done, but that seems like a pretty ridiculous reason to make all the raw case orders wait for several extra months.
This is exactly the issue x__x
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 22 June 2019, 02:56:07
Oh, and you still have plenty of orders for non-anodized, raw aluminum cases that could have been fulfilled months ago. :(
Wait a minute, so have the Raw orders been shipped? Are they all complete? If so, why the **** have I been waiting so long?
It sounds like the raw aluminum cases are still in China with the rest of the aluminum cases. The only thing I can think of is that maybe he's trying to save a few bucks on shipping by waiting to ship the raw cases with the anodized cases after the anodizing is done, but that seems like a pretty ridiculous reason to make all the raw case orders wait for several extra months.
This is exactly the issue x__x
I'm trying my best but the issue is trying to communicate with the factory. I send them a handful of messages every day just to get one incomplete response that doesn't fully address everything. They have never met a deadline and have shifted completion dates on my endlessly. With the raw cases, I am trying to save some money by shipping everything at once since I've gotten to the point where I'm loosing money on this GB.
I initially asked them to ship the raw cases first when they were completed earlier in late April. They said that they were almost done with anodizing cases so I decided to wait. This "almost done" has dragged on and it's difficult for me to get a firm answer from them with how they're communicating with me.
When I get a ship date from them I'll post an update on the website. For now I'm doing everything in my power to bring everything to a close.
Post by: megahyder on Sat, 22 June 2019, 06:40:34
I just got my order from Candykeys today. Gotta say I'm really impressed with the heft of the bent plate case.
However I'm having an issue mounting the switch for my iso-enter. Honestly it feels like the plate is in the way, like the hole isn't big enough or its not cut properly. Well I mean I hope it's just me being an idiot but can someone have a look at these pics and let me know who you think?
Got mine today and yeah I have the same, it seems like the plate doesn't fit the PCB. If you place just the switch on the plate with no PCB and then try to put the keycap on it wont fit due to the keys to the left being too close.
We may have to file down the plate on the right side of the mount.
Hey guys, I just checked on my production file and it's completely my fault that the cutout doesn't line up. I accidentally offset the ISO cutout at some point between creating the footprint and combining the plate element together.
You'll need to take a file to the plate and extend the switch cutout to the switchtop removal line. For the stabilizers, they should barely fit underneath the plate. Check the wire to make sure that it doesn't hit the plate upon full extension.
Thanks for the reply, I assumed as such and filed it a little after I made my initial post. Honestly I don't mind. I would have preferred it to have worked without having to do so, but this isn't a professional endeavour. I feel this sort of thing is a collaborative creative effort and I don't mind having to do a little work on my end. I just appreciate that it's finally here.
I've been enjoying using it and fiddling about with layouts for the last week. Gotta say I'm happy in the end.
Post by: forumusername on Sat, 22 June 2019, 20:30:15
Post by: euphxenos on Mon, 24 June 2019, 01:21:04
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 27 June 2019, 01:20:05
How many of the anodized cases failed quality control with a bad finish? Does anyone know if this sort of finish problem is something that Cerakote would do a better job of covering than anodizing did?
The issue isn't like Lunar where the anodizing factory was careless and pitted the alu from the anodizing bath, it's from the material itself where grain from the extrusion process shows in the anodizing. The grain affects the etching step of anodization which then affects the dyeing process and causes more/less dye to be absorbed in places where the grain lines exist.
Cerebrate would completely cover everything as the surface is still perfect.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 27 June 2019, 01:21:13
https://drive.google.com/file/d/151lBSm2-pzsZIGXaw2E4sY_m7cmdrOUb/view?usp=sharing
Post by: tigerali on Sun, 30 June 2019, 04:59:33
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 05 July 2019, 20:34:38
Ive talked to some other makers/vendors that are using the factory and they've given me another rep to contact. I'll follow up here and on the website on Monday once I get a reply from him.
As for now, all the cases are complete but I still am not sure how many are affected by the issue. Once I get in touch with the other rep which can hopefully get me some concrete information, I'll decide what to do from there.
Post by: speaktobrett on Sat, 06 July 2019, 19:49:47
Alright, another quick update as communication between me and my rep at the factory has been pretty sparse in the last two weeks.
Ive talked to some other makers/vendors that are using the factory and they've given me another rep to contact. I'll follow up here and on the website on Monday once I get a reply from him.
As for now, all the cases are complete but I still am not sure how many are affected by the issue. Once I get in touch with the other rep which can hopefully get me some concrete information, I'll decide what to do from there.
Thanks man, appreciate the update!
Post by: Vadurr on Sun, 07 July 2019, 03:32:20
Post by: MC_kb on Mon, 08 July 2019, 03:48:18
I see that some people have received their raw bent plate kits. Are all of these shipped ?
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 09 July 2019, 02:53:15
I'm a bit confused.
I see that some people have received their raw bent plate kits. Are all of these shipped ?
Those should be all shipped if you ordered from me.
If you haven't received yours, please email me. There might be something else with the order or it might've slipped by me
Post by: HowObvious on Thu, 11 July 2019, 11:06:17
The one I got sent with the keyboard from candykeys doesnt fit between the plate and the pcb so it cant move. Something I didnt spot until I had soldered all the switches in, don't want to risk de soldering everything and I will still have to order and wait for another stabiliser kit....
Post by: Halverson on Thu, 11 July 2019, 19:02:26
Post by: rpiguy9907 on Thu, 11 July 2019, 20:14:38
For those curious what was wrong I was told that the reset was stuck, which was why the board didn’t even light up.
Haven’t had time to solder my build but I was relieved and thought I should share this positive experience since this group buy has had its ups and downs.
Post by: MC_kb on Fri, 12 July 2019, 04:53:38
David answered : "SO we have another small tiny issue. Are you aware of the acryl plate going under the case? We have not gotten that yet and we sent 75% of the orders for the bent case and now people are asking where that is so that is a mistake."
So, two steps forward, one step backward.
Post by: rpiguy9907 on Fri, 12 July 2019, 19:01:39
So I mailed CandyKeys, because I didn't know the shipping status of the raw bent plate kits.
David answered : "SO we have another small tiny issue. Are you aware of the acryl plate going under the case? We have not gotten that yet and we sent 75% of the orders for the bent case and now people are asking where that is so that is a mistake."
So, two steps forward, one step backward.
That stinks. I am in the US and mine definitely came with the acrylic plate.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 15 July 2019, 10:43:09
So I mailed CandyKeys, because I didn't know the shipping status of the raw bent plate kits.
David answered : "SO we have another small tiny issue. Are you aware of the acryl plate going under the case? We have not gotten that yet and we sent 75% of the orders for the bent case and now people are asking where that is so that is a mistake."
So, two steps forward, one step backward.
That should have been shipped with the steel bent plates. The acrylic diffusers and laser cut and bent steel plates were fabricated at the same factory. Something isn't quite right. Give me some time to follow up on this.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 15 July 2019, 10:50:44
As many of you read in the last update, some of the cases that came out have aluminum grain on them. The only way to fix this is to remake cases from scratch, and unless the supplier is willing to test the aluminum (which the current one is not at the current quantity), there's no guarantee that they will be completely free of grain.
They're going to reblast and reanodize some of the cases that have issues that can be lessened or removed by refinishing. I've gotten some better pictures from my rep and some of the cases have extremely minimal grain that appears at certain angles and will not be reworked as reanodizing aluminum multiple times deteriorates the surface (as seen from my lunar GB) and leads to more defects from handling.
As the situation stands, the factory is unwilling to remake the cases as this is the "second run" from them as many from the first had major CNC inconsistencies around the chamfers and standoffs and were tossed. Remaking again would run another few months (given this past experience with them) and is just not feasible at this point. For units that I receive and QC that do not meet my quality expectations, I will issue out partial refunds and organize cerakoating if desired.
I'm truly sorry if I've disappointed some of you as everyone in the GB has certainly waited long enough for their boards. My vision from the beginning has always been to deliver boards that do not disappoint and it is something I've tried my best to do with this GB. As it stands today though, I simply do not have the money left after the fiasco with KP and the round 1 Lunar manufacturing situation to remake a third run of cases at the factory that manufactured the second run of Lunar. I would much rather get these delivered to everyone as soon as possible without any further delays.
TL;DR
Some cases at the moment still show some grain. Manufacturer of the remade aluminum cases has stopped cooperating as remaking aluminum cases is costing them more than what I've paid them due to remanufacturing and remaking cases that had issues. They are not willing to remake/fix any more cases. I will be shipping what I receive and issuing partial refunds for cases that have grain (which, I understand from my rep, not many). If you happen to be allocated a case with serious grain, I will help with certificating if desired.
Post by: tentboy on Mon, 15 July 2019, 11:05:20
Big Update - Aluminum Case Manufacturing Qualms
As many of you read in the last update, some of the cases that came out have aluminum grain on them. The only way to fix this is to remake cases from scratch, and unless the supplier is willing to test the aluminum (which the current one is not at the current quantity), there's no guarantee that they will be completely free of grain.
They're going to reblast and reanodize some of the cases that have issues that can be lessened or removed by refinishing. I've gotten some better pictures from my rep and some of the cases have extremely minimal grain that appears at certain angles and will not be reworked as reanodizing aluminum multiple times deteriorates the surface (as seen from my lunar GB) and leads to more defects from handling.
As the situation stands, the factory is unwilling to remake the cases as this is the "second run" from them as many from the first had major CNC inconsistencies around the chamfers and standoffs and were tossed. Remaking again would run another few months (given this past experience with them) and is just not feasible at this point. For units that I receive and QC that do not meet my quality expectations, I will issue out partial refunds and organize cerakoating if desired.
I'm truly sorry if I've disappointed some of you as everyone in the GB has certainly waited long enough for their boards. My vision from the beginning has always been to deliver boards that do not disappoint and it is something I've tried my best to do with this GB. As it stands today though, I simply do not have the money left after the fiasco with KP and the round 1 Lunar manufacturing situation to remake a third run of cases at the factory that manufactured the second run of Lunar. I would much rather get these delivered to everyone as soon as possible without any further delays.
TL;DR
Some cases at the moment still show some grain. Manufacturer of the remade aluminum cases has stopped cooperating as remaking aluminum cases is costing them more than what I've paid them due to remanufacturing and remaking cases that had issues. They are not willing to remake/fix any more cases. I will be shipping what I receive and issuing partial refunds for cases that have grain (which, I understand from my rep, not many). If you happen to be allocated a case with serious grain, I will help with certificating if desired.
Thank you for the update!
I can understand your frustration with the situation, but hopefully those with affected cases can seek alternative means of coating, either powder or cerakoting. I know I will be and don't mind too much if I receive one.
Any ETA on when you will be getting them back?
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 16 July 2019, 00:28:29
Big Update - Aluminum Case Manufacturing Qualms
As many of you read in the last update, some of the cases that came out have aluminum grain on them. The only way to fix this is to remake cases from scratch, and unless the supplier is willing to test the aluminum (which the current one is not at the current quantity), there's no guarantee that they will be completely free of grain.
They're going to reblast and reanodize some of the cases that have issues that can be lessened or removed by refinishing. I've gotten some better pictures from my rep and some of the cases have extremely minimal grain that appears at certain angles and will not be reworked as reanodizing aluminum multiple times deteriorates the surface (as seen from my lunar GB) and leads to more defects from handling.
As the situation stands, the factory is unwilling to remake the cases as this is the "second run" from them as many from the first had major CNC inconsistencies around the chamfers and standoffs and were tossed. Remaking again would run another few months (given this past experience with them) and is just not feasible at this point. For units that I receive and QC that do not meet my quality expectations, I will issue out partial refunds and organize cerakoating if desired.
I'm truly sorry if I've disappointed some of you as everyone in the GB has certainly waited long enough for their boards. My vision from the beginning has always been to deliver boards that do not disappoint and it is something I've tried my best to do with this GB. As it stands today though, I simply do not have the money left after the fiasco with KP and the round 1 Lunar manufacturing situation to remake a third run of cases at the factory that manufactured the second run of Lunar. I would much rather get these delivered to everyone as soon as possible without any further delays.
TL;DR
Some cases at the moment still show some grain. Manufacturer of the remade aluminum cases has stopped cooperating as remaking aluminum cases is costing them more than what I've paid them due to remanufacturing and remaking cases that had issues. They are not willing to remake/fix any more cases. I will be shipping what I receive and issuing partial refunds for cases that have grain (which, I understand from my rep, not many). If you happen to be allocated a case with serious grain, I will help with certificating if desired.
Thank you for the update!
I can understand your frustration with the situation, but hopefully those with affected cases can seek alternative means of coating, either powder or cerakoting. I know I will be and don't mind too much if I receive one.
Any ETA on when you will be getting them back?
Talking with my rep, they should be one in around two weeks time as they are still working on the last batch of cases that they have been willing to do.
Not a concrete estimate, but I'd say a month or so from today.
Post by: speaktobrett on Tue, 16 July 2019, 19:07:20
Talking with my rep, they should be one in around two weeks time as they are still working on the last batch of cases that they have been willing to do.
Not a concrete estimate, but I'd say a month or so from today.
Thank you for the update. I imagine this is a tough situation for you.
In regards to the orders through Candykeys, when do you think they will arrive?
Do they go to you first, or shipped directly to Candkeys?
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 18 July 2019, 05:55:39
Talking with my rep, they should be one in around two weeks time as they are still working on the last batch of cases that they have been willing to do.
Not a concrete estimate, but I'd say a month or so from today.
Thank you for the update. I imagine this is a tough situation for you.
In regards to the orders through Candykeys, when do you think they will arrive?
Do they go to you first, or shipped directly to Candkeys?
Alu cases will go directly to candykeys.
Post by: HowObvious on Tue, 06 August 2019, 06:58:32
I emailed them and they said they were still waiting on receiving them.
Post by: tigerali on Tue, 06 August 2019, 22:17:53
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 06 August 2019, 23:44:06
Any news on the Acrylic plates for Candykeys orders.
I emailed them and they said they were still waiting on receiving them.
The acrylic sheets that go under the board should've been shipped with the bent plates. They were laser cut at the same factory. Not sure what happened here but I'll check in with CK.
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 06 August 2019, 23:44:57
Is there any news for the rest of us too?
Everything is complete and waiting for shipping supplies from the factory's end. Using wooden crates to ship so it should be less than a week's time before they're dispatched.
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 07 August 2019, 00:47:58
Post by: green_mmq on Tue, 20 August 2019, 16:01:25
Post by: tigerali on Thu, 22 August 2019, 03:21:44
Post by: Nigolski on Thu, 22 August 2019, 11:23:05
Post by: Bubblegum on Sat, 24 August 2019, 11:53:26
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 24 August 2019, 18:39:01
Post by: HowObvious on Mon, 26 August 2019, 06:36:53
Post by: weetjewel on Sat, 31 August 2019, 12:14:47
Post by: ktrezzi on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:31:25
What is wrong with those CandyKey orders? What is exactly missing? How long should we expect? And why isn't there some sort of alternative to the missing parts?
Post by: euphxenos on Wed, 04 September 2019, 16:23:38
The factory is looking to ship all the stuff they owe me at once. They are waiting on the cardboard boxes from the factory and have told me they would be for sure ready to ship next week.
Did the factory send you this shipment, or are we still waiting for the factory to get some cardboard boxes?
Post by: tigerali on Thu, 05 September 2019, 13:46:49
The factory is looking to ship all the stuff they owe me at once. They are waiting on the cardboard boxes from the factory and have told me they would be for sure ready to ship next week.
Did the factory send you this shipment, or are we still waiting for the factory to get some cardboard boxes?
(http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/F1sfZD3grYjQc/giphy.gif)
EDIT: Seriously, there needs to be some communication.
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Sat, 07 September 2019, 10:50:51
The website News section also hasn't been updated either.
What's the word?
Post by: edj628 on Sat, 07 September 2019, 19:55:40
Post by: weetjewel on Sun, 08 September 2019, 10:13:37
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 09 September 2019, 02:09:51
I love that he's doing ICs for PCBs while I'm still waiting for my board that I ordered two years ago, worst GB I've ever joined.
Yeah me too...I don't think that this is a fine way to deal with the participants, it's pretty inadequate imho
Post by: tigerali on Mon, 09 September 2019, 16:46:44
Apologies to everyone who sees this thread and thinks maybe we're getting an update.
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 10 September 2019, 10:56:28
"Soon" :))
Post by: weetjewel on Tue, 10 September 2019, 12:28:01
Took my GMK Laser set out of its tray around 13 months ago in anticipation for this board that would soon get delivered, lol. Have since moved appartment and my layout's GMK Laser caps are waiting in a plastic bag.
"Soon" :))
I ordered 100 MX Silent blacks through a GB for the board and when I ordered them I was worried the board would arrive before the switches, oh how wrong I was.
Post by: tigerali on Tue, 10 September 2019, 22:31:34
As respectfully as humanly possible, there needs to be more communication here. You need to tell us what's going on. You've said how hard this is on you, but we've given you our money (and for me, at least, it was an amount that I can't just write off), and we do have some right to be in the know on how things are going.
I know this must be a tough spot, and evidently doing this GB was harder than you anticipated. Not only is the GB remarkably late, you've given us multiple timelines, you've gone silent on us multiple times, and the latest is that some of the cases failed QC.
We would all be much less anxious if you communicated with us, though, and I think we do deserve to know what's going on.
Post by: tigerali on Tue, 10 September 2019, 22:43:54
Is there any news for the rest of us too?
Everything is complete and waiting for shipping supplies from the factory's end. Using wooden crates to ship so it should be less than a week's time before they're dispatched.
This was written August 6, and it's now more than a month later.
Post by: ktrezzi on Wed, 11 September 2019, 02:36:41
Took my GMK Laser set out of its tray around 13 months ago in anticipation for this board that would soon get delivered, lol. Have since moved appartment and my layout's GMK Laser caps are waiting in a plastic bag.
"Soon" :))
I wanted to build that keyboard for work, in the meantime I changed my job twice
Post by: happycamper87 on Wed, 11 September 2019, 05:51:52
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 11 September 2019, 07:34:05
Reconsiderit, you ought to reply to the thread, even if there is no news. We are getting restless, and that's because you gave us another timeline, and we're not sure if we are still on it or not.
As respectfully as humanly possible, there needs to be more communication here. You need to tell us what's going on. You've said how hard this is on you, but we've given you our money (and for me, at least, it was an amount that I can't just write off), and we do have some right to be in the know on how things are going.
I know this must be a tough spot, and evidently doing this GB was harder than you anticipated. Not only is the GB remarkably late, you've given us multiple timelines, you've gone silent on us multiple times, and the latest is that some of the cases failed QC.
We would all be much less anxious if you communicated with us, though, and I think we do deserve to know what's going on.
Very well written and respectful post echoing what I believe most people are thinking.
Post by: tigerali on Wed, 11 September 2019, 13:54:11
One additional point - the money we gave you represents hard work on our part - it's the tangible representation of us working - and in terms of communicating with us, I don't feel like you've held up your part of the communicative relationship with us. I'm not asking you to be at our beck and call, but as both human beings and people who have given you our hard-earned money, you do owe us communication both when the project initially left your timeline and now when you said things would be ready to ship to you in a week (now, more than a month ago).
This includes both this GH thread and the Switchplate discord, on which I currently see no recent responses from you.
In terms of milestones, I changed jobs twice since joining this GB (once internally and now externally) and have gone from unable to put together a board to soldering things together myself.
PLEASE COMMUNICATE WITH US.
To my fellow thread-members, has there been any new responses from CandyKeys? Maybe they have more information than we do.
Post by: green_mmq on Wed, 11 September 2019, 23:06:57
Edit: thought this thread needed some humor. But yeah, exactly what tiger said.
Also if we're mentioning milestones, I moved three times and got married.
Post by: weetjewel on Thu, 12 September 2019, 13:06:02
-Graduated college
-Got my first job
-Moved out to live on my own
-Got promoted at work
When I ordered this board I was using a CM Masterkeys Pro L that I switch swapped for Tealios. I was super excited to get a really unique custom board. I'm currently typing this message on a TX108se with Tealios, ePBT BoW and some TinyMakesThings Yeti artisan keycaps. I als have a TX-CP, a TX1800V2, an HB85 and an INETT CROSS now so It's safe to say I'm way past whatever the Southpaw has to offer but I still want what I payed for.
Post by: tigerali on Thu, 12 September 2019, 13:45:48
Post by: Laughmaster on Thu, 12 September 2019, 14:02:32
Quote
I've paid the shipping invoice for the factory so it should be sent to me soon
the guy who pinged him asked what soon means but that was all he said about the 65.
Post by: tigerali on Thu, 12 September 2019, 19:20:48
Also I am the guy in the discord who asked.
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 13 September 2019, 02:02:58
QuoteI've paid the shipping invoice for the factory so it should be sent to me soon
"Soon" the offical GB trademark.
So he didn't say anything new or anything what we didn't already know? Only on Discord...I'm not on Discord, how should I notice that? How can it be that YOU have to post here on Geekhack to inform us? And not he?
How the **** can you not have one minute in your life to turn on your PC, go to this site and just write a couple of words after you haven't said anything about this GroupBuy for weeks except "soon"?
EDIT: Thank you @tigerali for doing @reconsiderit his work
Post by: tigerali on Fri, 13 September 2019, 03:54:45
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 13 September 2019, 06:45:18
The good thing is for the CK customers - we have you covered and will refund you if it all turns to shambles, but i feel sorry for the others who have been effected not under our umbrella. No we do not have some insurance but it is only the right thing to do. :/
Post by: weetjewel on Fri, 13 September 2019, 09:46:42
Just a update from us, a kind buyer notified us about this thread again. It is a shame honestly, I mean we might also not be experts on the quality of manufacturing and delaying things but the last thing we expect is that one keeps opening more products and gbs. We sadly have no new news from the original host, the last news was there was some packages ready but we are unsure what is happening since that was 3 weeks ago or more.
The good thing is for the CK customers - we have you covered and will refund you if it all turns to shambles, but i feel sorry for the others who have been effected not under our umbrella. No we do not have some insurance but it is only the right thing to do. :/
Thank you very much for the update. It's a shame that everything turned out this way.
Post by: tigerali on Fri, 13 September 2019, 15:36:01
My question of what "soon" means on discord has not received a reply.
Post by: speaktobrett on Sun, 15 September 2019, 16:47:09
Post by: tigerali on Tue, 17 September 2019, 03:36:32
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Tue, 17 September 2019, 09:15:14
Post by: tigerali on Tue, 17 September 2019, 13:16:44
EDIT:
I don't know why it's my job to copy information from the discord to this GH thread but (rather than reconsiderit's) but more from discord today:
(https://i.imgur.com/CctHX5L.png)
EDIT 2:
(https://i.imgur.com/1870Xiy.png)
Post by: speaktobrett on Tue, 17 September 2019, 16:45:12
To summarise, all CandyKeys needs now is the screws for the cases?
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 18 September 2019, 00:24:00
I appreciate the updates, although this is all very vague.
To summarise, all CandyKeys needs now is the screws for the cases?
I read the reply as the cases are still at the factory, but I'm not sure if it's only the shipment to reconsiderit that is struggling or the one to CK also. It is kind of vague if it's CandyKeys or the factory waiting for screws.
First they (not sure if CK or factory) need to source hardware for the cases in the first reply, then it's stated that hardware has already been supplied by KP (supposedly).
I may be misunderstanding this completely. Going to try to forget about this GB for now and be happily surprised whenever it gets finalized.
Post by: tigerali on Wed, 18 September 2019, 01:18:30
Post by: ktrezzi on Wed, 18 September 2019, 01:36:38
What a vague and nonsense answer tbh -.-
Post by: bearwolfz on Wed, 18 September 2019, 01:43:56
Anyone got their acryl plates or not? ;D
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Wed, 18 September 2019, 10:48:09
Anyone got their acryl plates or not? ;D
Nope. But that's only because I'm a dummy and didn't know I needed one for a bent plate (noob here, first group buy for a keyboard).
Sorry that's not helpful lol.
Have to get one made..
Post by: bearwolfz on Wed, 18 September 2019, 11:36:58
Nope. But that's only because I'm a dummy and didn't know I needed one for a bent plate (noob here, first group buy for a keyboard).
Sorry that's not helpful lol.
Have to get one made..
Wait you mean the acryl plate is not included by default with the bent plate? I was under the impression it would be included with the plate
:confused:
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Wed, 18 September 2019, 12:17:28
Wait you mean the acryl plate is not included by default with the bent plate? I was under the impression it would be included with the plate
:confused:
On. Maybe, I honestly don't know. At any rate, I still may do something custom for it. Meh.
Post by: flying1911 on Wed, 18 September 2019, 14:04:53
I see this thread popping up every now and then, and it's crazy to think 2 years and dozens of boards later (for me), the GB still hasn't seen a clear finishing line. I guess it was my luck, and I wish the best of it to everyone who's still waiting for their boards.
Post by: tigerali on Wed, 18 September 2019, 14:20:08
As I'm not covered by Candykey's generous offer, I am beginning to wonder whether legal recourse via small claims court is warranted.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 19 September 2019, 00:30:20
1) On the Candykeys side, I've emailed them and given them the contact for the factory yesterday. They will be arranging pickup on their own. They do not have case hardware yet as it was originally supposed to be provided by KP. I will be sending them the specs for the hardware. If needed, I will help them with hardware sourcing as generic hardware will cause interference between the PCB and case. Hardware is stuff that can be found through mcmaster though I am not sure if they have something like that in Europe.
2) For orders on my side, I have gotten them to finally ship to me. I have everything on hand and should be able to start shipping keyboards out as soon as I get them. I'll get through this as quickly as I can but I expect it will be about two or three weeks from the day I receive the package.
3) What the cases were waiting on was the packaging to ship the units from the factory to me and CK. They wanted to use cardboard boxes at first and wrap the items in foam but I didn't think that'd be enough so I opted for wood crates. On my end, I was also trying to explain that they couldn't mark the entire crate as a $10 gift. Due to the wait time between responses from the factory, this has taken quite a while.
4) The acrylic diffuser should have been bundled with the bent steel plates. They were made in the same factory as all of the laser cut items (bent steel plates, alu plates, steel plates, etc...). From what I can see, CK never received the acrylic diffuser for some reason. The rep at the factory which did those has moved on to another place but I'll reach out to them and see if they know anything about the situation.
Once again, for those waiting, I will update with a tracking number and post it here once I have it from the rep. Will be using fedex int'l economy which is about a week from CN to me. CK will be handling shipping themselves between them and the factory rep.
If you want anything cleared up, feel free to ping me to ask me anything. I'll do my best to answer and get back in a more timely manner.
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 19 September 2019, 03:09:26
Post by: weetjewel on Thu, 19 September 2019, 11:52:09
4) The acrylic diffuser should have been bundled with the bent steel plates. They were made in the same factory as all of the laser cut items (bent steel plates, alu plates, steel plates, etc...). From what I can see, CK never received the acrylic diffuser for some reason. The rep at the factory which did those has moved on to another place but I'll reach out to them and see if they know anything about the situation.
So if I'm not mistaken no progress whatsoever has been made on the issues with the steel bent plate orders from CK. We've been waiting for a response for almost half a year to be told that nothing has been done yet.
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Thu, 19 September 2019, 12:11:45
2) For orders on my side, I have gotten them to finally ship to me. I have everything on hand and should be able to start shipping keyboards out as soon as I get them. I'll get through this as quickly as I can but I expect it will be about two or three weeks from the day I receive the package.
4) The acrylic diffuser should have been bundled with the bent steel plates. They were made in the same factory as all of the laser cut items (bent steel plates, alu plates, steel plates, etc...). From what I can see, CK never received the acrylic diffuser for some reason. The rep at the factory which did those has moved on to another place but I'll reach out to them and see if they know anything about the situation.
Thanks for the update!
Sooooo... For those of us that ordered through switchplate.co, received a bent plate, and didn't get an acrylic diffuser, what is going on there? I honestly can't remember if that was a separate option or not during purchasing, so I'm just trying to figure that out.
Post by: rpiguy9907 on Thu, 19 September 2019, 21:34:00
In my mind, at least, we've crossed into "debacle."
As I'm not covered by Candykey's generous offer, I am beginning to wonder whether legal recourse via small claims court is warranted.
You are aware that if you win in small claims court you and only you are are responsible for collecting the award. If the loser of the case refuses to pay, you have to pay a debt collection agency to try and collect the funds. Best case if he doesn’t pay you ruin his credit score, lol. Furthermore, if you win but pester the loser of the case directly for the money they can sue you for harassment.
Small claims court is a bit of a joke.
Post by: bmilcs on Fri, 20 September 2019, 13:46:45
USA purchase here.
Post by: forumusername on Fri, 20 September 2019, 13:51:44
What is the current status here? Is it time to give in and file a Paypal claim? LOL. I haven't been keeping up nor aware of what the protocol is.You're a year and a half late to file a PayPal claim
USA purchase here.
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Fri, 20 September 2019, 14:37:31
What is the current status here? Is it time to give in and file a Paypal claim? LOL. I haven't been keeping up nor aware of what the protocol is.
USA purchase here.
Here:
I should be getting the tracking number from the factory today. I'll post it as soon as I have it in hand. To go through what I had briefly said on discord yesterday:
1) On the Candykeys side, I've emailed them and given them the contact for the factory yesterday. They will be arranging pickup on their own. They do not have case hardware yet as it was originally supposed to be provided by KP. I will be sending them the specs for the hardware. If needed, I will help them with hardware sourcing as generic hardware will cause interference between the PCB and case. Hardware is stuff that can be found through mcmaster though I am not sure if they have something like that in Europe.
2) For orders on my side, I have gotten them to finally ship to me. I have everything on hand and should be able to start shipping keyboards out as soon as I get them. I'll get through this as quickly as I can but I expect it will be about two or three weeks from the day I receive the package.
3) What the cases were waiting on was the packaging to ship the units from the factory to me and CK. They wanted to use cardboard boxes at first and wrap the items in foam but I didn't think that'd be enough so I opted for wood crates. On my end, I was also trying to explain that they couldn't mark the entire crate as a $10 gift. Due to the wait time between responses from the factory, this has taken quite a while.
4) The acrylic diffuser should have been bundled with the bent steel plates. They were made in the same factory as all of the laser cut items (bent steel plates, alu plates, steel plates, etc...). From what I can see, CK never received the acrylic diffuser for some reason. The rep at the factory which did those has moved on to another place but I'll reach out to them and see if they know anything about the situation.
Once again, for those waiting, I will update with a tracking number and post it here once I have it from the rep. Will be using fedex int'l economy which is about a week from CN to me. CK will be handling shipping themselves between them and the factory rep.
If you want anything cleared up, feel free to ping me to ask me anything. I'll do my best to answer and get back in a more timely manner.
Post by: tigerali on Sat, 21 September 2019, 02:59:14
You are aware that if you win in small claims court you and only you are are responsible for collecting the award.
I am an attorney barred in California and Georgia, so yes, I'd assume I was aware. I'm also not far from Sunnyvale, so I could both serve and attempt to collect, which is why I said what I said.
In what jurisdiction or jurisdictions are you barred?
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 22 September 2019, 02:21:33
2) For orders on my side, I have gotten them to finally ship to me. I have everything on hand and should be able to start shipping keyboards out as soon as I get them. I'll get through this as quickly as I can but I expect it will be about two or three weeks from the day I receive the package.
4) The acrylic diffuser should have been bundled with the bent steel plates. They were made in the same factory as all of the laser cut items (bent steel plates, alu plates, steel plates, etc...). From what I can see, CK never received the acrylic diffuser for some reason. The rep at the factory which did those has moved on to another place but I'll reach out to them and see if they know anything about the situation.
Thanks for the update!
Sooooo... For those of us that ordered through switchplate.co, received a bent plate, and didn't get an acrylic diffuser, what is going on there? I honestly can't remember if that was a separate option or not during purchasing, so I'm just trying to figure that out.
If you didn't receive a diffuser and ordered through switchplate, please send me an email. It was not a separate option. You should have received one.
contact@switchplate.co
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 22 September 2019, 02:26:13
For those interested, the tracking is below. As of me writing this, it hasn't been handed off to fedex yet.
110385321707
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 23 September 2019, 12:57:30
Post by: Laughmaster on Tue, 24 September 2019, 06:55:39
Okay sorry but I didn't understand your message (non English native here), could you (or anyone) please give me a TL;DR about the CandyKeys order? What is missing, what is the ETA of all of that?
1. Candykeys is handling their own shipment from the factory so the above tracking number does not apply to them.
2. Candeykeys needs to order small parts (screws, etc.) separately.
3. When Candeykeys received the bent plate orders previously, they did not get the acrylic diffusers that were supposed to be included. reconsiderit is contacting the factory about this.
4. In the last update from Candeykeys (previous page) they said they would be issuing refunds in the event that they can't fulfill orders.
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 25 September 2019, 14:41:56
So there is all the important info. above, I just wanted to update and confirm the last parts are becoming picked up now from the factory by Friday. The woman of the factory has contacted us with their pick up details and hopefully things will go smoothly. Now we are burdened with a ton of work regarding what will be missing, we expect a fair amount, for things like LEDs and switches we will probably reach out to you if there is something missing but should have everything. The acryl middle plates are here, I will confirm again after opening stuff up and we then will set to work. It is annoying now but lets hope all goes well!
Post by: ktrezzi on Thu, 26 September 2019, 06:28:35
Okay sorry but I didn't understand your message (non English native here), could you (or anyone) please give me a TL;DR about the CandyKeys order? What is missing, what is the ETA of all of that?
1. Candykeys is handling their own shipment from the factory so the above tracking number does not apply to them.
2. Candeykeys needs to order small parts (screws, etc.) separately.
3. When Candeykeys received the bent plate orders previously, they did not get the acrylic diffusers that were supposed to be included. reconsiderit is contacting the factory about this.
4. In the last update from Candeykeys (previous page) they said they would be issuing refunds in the event that they can't fulfill orders.
Thank you!
Hello all!
So there is all the important info. above, I just wanted to update and confirm the last parts are becoming picked up now from the factory by Friday. The woman of the factory has contacted us with their pick up details and hopefully things will go smoothly. Now we are burdened with a ton of work regarding what will be missing, we expect a fair amount, for things like LEDs and switches we will probably reach out to you if there is something missing but should have everything. The acryl middle plates are here, I will confirm again after opening stuff up and we then will set to work. It is annoying now but lets hope all goes well!
Thank you even more. Let's hope that we all gonna build our keebs soon
Post by: guptaji on Thu, 26 September 2019, 06:37:38
Hello all!
So there is all the important info. above, I just wanted to update and confirm the last parts are becoming picked up now from the factory by Friday. The woman of the factory has contacted us with their pick up details and hopefully things will go smoothly. Now we are burdened with a ton of work regarding what will be missing, we expect a fair amount, for things like LEDs and switches we will probably reach out to you if there is something missing but should have everything. The acryl middle plates are here, I will confirm again after opening stuff up and we then will set to work. It is annoying now but lets hope all goes well!
Hope all goes well as well. Thanks for this crucial information/update.
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 27 September 2019, 14:37:40
Post by: tentboy on Mon, 30 September 2019, 14:05:56
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 30 September 2019, 21:59:40
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 02 October 2019, 11:34:08
TNT has the info (all the things needed for pick up). I have the contact to the factory thanks to the GB host. I have told TNT to pick up the package by the Friday as I said however it failed due to no communication from the factory as TNT tried to call them for the pick up in China. So I have written the factory to be aware this time of a coming package and it should hopefully be picked up then next week as this week they have holidays until the 7th. Will update if there are further issues.
Post by: Krazzios on Wed, 02 October 2019, 13:36:53
Post by: ktrezzi on Thu, 03 October 2019, 10:16:59
Post by: tigerali on Thu, 03 October 2019, 20:54:35
Post by: forumusername on Thu, 03 October 2019, 20:56:02
Post by: tigerali on Fri, 04 October 2019, 15:08:36
Plus given all that’s happened I think I’d be happy with too much communication rather than too little.
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:45:36
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 08 October 2019, 00:33:57
I'll be doing a count/QC first then moving to fulfillment once that is done.
(https://i.imgur.com/OfUZHpF.jpg?1)
Post by: edj628 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 22:08:13
Thanks for the update.
Post by: Valyns on Thu, 10 October 2019, 22:45:18
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 11 October 2019, 01:50:53
He said he would work on it this weekend... It's not even Friday.
Aaaaaaand here we go again, next friday, no update except for "Sorry I hadn't the time"
You know what reconsiderit, I generally appreciate that you organizing, like many others, GB in your spare time. But I'm beginning to think that I don't give a **** about you not having enough time.
It's no almost two years, you've run other GB in the meantime - Maybe, just maybe, you should prioritize your to-dos and finally finish that horrible group buy. It's not even horrible that we have to wait for such a long time, it's horrible because your communication sucks and I don't feel like your are putting enough effort in it. It's time now that you go "an extra mile". Stop saying that you don't have much time to check the stuff, TAKE THAT TIME AND CHECK IT.
Post by: tigerali on Fri, 11 October 2019, 14:14:21
He said he would work on it this weekend... It's not even Friday.
What'cha got to say now?
Post by: forumusername on Fri, 11 October 2019, 16:41:40
About what? I assume you don't need help reading the updates?He said he would work on it this weekend... It's not even Friday.
What'cha got to say now?
Post by: tigerali on Fri, 11 October 2019, 17:38:16
About what? I assume you don't need help reading the updates?He said he would work on it this weekend... It's not even Friday.
What'cha got to say now?
The picture of the box saying I'll look at it later? That's not an update. There hasn't been an actual update since you decided to be thread police.
Post by: forumusername on Fri, 11 October 2019, 17:44:51
So you do need help - three days ago he said that he would QC/count what was delivered and then proceed to fulfilment. I suggest not holding your breath waiting on more information C:About what? I assume you don't need help reading the updates?He said he would work on it this weekend... It's not even Friday.
What'cha got to say now?
The picture of the box saying I'll look at it later? That's not an update. There hasn't been an actual update since you decided to be thread police.
Post by: tigerali on Fri, 11 October 2019, 17:55:02
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Mon, 14 October 2019, 14:45:48
Post by: tigerali on Tue, 15 October 2019, 16:59:50
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 16 October 2019, 02:57:21
I've done a complete unpacking and QC of the angled feet. With this I have some bad news and good news.
Bad news is that some of the angled feet aren't perfect. Quality is better than the original ones from KP, but still isn't perfect due to handling imperfections. No atrocious anodization drip which is a big improvement over the last run. Some of the chamfers have small dings from handling but there isn't the whole issue of unbroken edges with chipping anodization and straight up dents as there were with the previous ones.
I haven't yet unpacked all of the cases but the black and raw one I've taken out of the packaging look pretty good.
Another thing I wanted talk about in advance were the raw cases. The factory ended up processing the raw cases and did prep for anodizing even after I had told them not to. They refused to do anything about it or answer any questions I posed to them about it. Because of this, there will be hand finishing done to the raw cases and risers. I'll upload a picture of this soon but it isn't the look that I intended for these to have. Due to the nature of hand finishing, the surface isn't visually uniform. (its like the hand rubbed finish you see on pocket knives) I'd recommend either doing a powdercoat or a cerakote over the raw aluminum if you aren't satisfied with how these turned out. I can help organize cerakoting if desired.
That said, there aren't any issues apart from that. CNC work looks as it should with precise chamfers and zero visible chatter along deeper cuts. Anodizing from the black alu case I pulled is pretty good. The machining work is the same as the angled feet but no visible handling marks as far as I can tell.
(https://i.imgur.com/wqyAWq5.jpg)
Post by: Krazzios on Wed, 16 October 2019, 06:03:36
This is literally all we need, an image a week to show that stuff is moving. I bet most of us in the groupbuy (despite it coming up on 2 years) are still really hyped about this board.
The problem thus far has been the long stretches of silence. There doesn't even have to be an essay worth of update, just a line every now and then showing us that there is indeed progress. Even this picture is enough to tell me I'm that much closer to receiving my board, even though I'm getting mine from CandyKeys and not from you directly.
Now, I realise you have real life responsibilities and that a groupbuy takes time. But in the future, if we could just get an image and 1 line of text a week (even if nothing significant has happened) it would put a lot of peoples minds at ease.
Post by: speaktobrett on Sat, 19 October 2019, 04:19:08
Okay, let me just preface this by saying, thank you for the update.
This is literally all we need, an image a week to show that stuff is moving. I bet most of us in the groupbuy (despite it coming up on 2 years) are still really hyped about this board.
The problem thus far has been the long stretches of silence. There doesn't even have to be an essay worth of update, just a line every now and then showing us that there is indeed progress. Even this picture is enough to tell me I'm that much closer to recieving my board, even though I'm getting mine from CandyKeys and not from you directly.
Now, I realise you have real life responsibilities and that a groupbuy takes time. But in the future, if we could just get an image and 1 line of text a week (even if nothing significant has happened) it would put a lot of peoples minds at ease.
Yeah I'm in agreeance with this.
I guess my concern was that nothing was happening, and the wonder of whether I would actually receive a board in the end.
Appreciate that you have given an update Reconsiderit.
Thank you
Post by: grossvogel on Mon, 21 October 2019, 15:40:44
Because of this, there will be hand finishing done to the raw cases and risers.
What about raw cases that went to CandyKeys?
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 22 October 2019, 18:20:45
Because of this, there will be hand finishing done to the raw cases and risers.
What about raw cases that went to CandyKeys?
They will have the same hand finishing done to the ones that are headed to the US. They were made by the same factory in the same run.
It's not quite visually nice as the endmill finish that I intended but how they've been hand finished allows for things like powdercoat or cerakote to be thrown on without any intensive surface prep. I'll have pictures up soon.
I've just completed going a handful of the cases this morning and they look excellent. I should be able to finsh the remaining ones on Friday and start packaging to ship out on Sunday.
Post by: ktrezzi on Sat, 26 October 2019, 07:02:19
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 29 October 2019, 03:58:57
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Sat, 09 November 2019, 21:46:06
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 11 November 2019, 22:42:17
Update for the CK situation for those that are in the EU; the boards are stuck in customs atm and I'm working with the factory to get an invoice and all sorted out for them.
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 12 November 2019, 10:25:49
Are they stuck at the custom in Europe or where? Any ETA on those Eu-Orders? Do you also know by any chance, if Candykeys has everything together of the rest i.e. ready to ship when they arrive?
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Mon, 18 November 2019, 14:24:07
switchplate.co states mid-november for fulfillment...
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 22 November 2019, 06:59:20
Post by: euphxenos on Fri, 22 November 2019, 14:52:24
What's it going to take to get this finished? Is there anything still missing? What still needs to be done? Do you need someone to come over and help you pack them up? If that's all it is, I'm local, I have time, and I'm offering to help.
Post by: JM Popaleetus on Fri, 22 November 2019, 16:04:29
This is utterly unacceptable at this point. And I'm from the Southpaw Full Size groupbuy, which has had even LESS updates or movement.
Post by: ktrezzi on Sat, 23 November 2019, 16:33:55
reconsiderit,
What's it going to take to get this finished? Is there anything still missing? What still needs to be done? Do you need someone to come over and help you pack them up? If that's all it is, I'm local, I have time, and I'm offering to help.
Listen to that man reconsiderit!
WTF is going on with that GB and that horrible lack of communication? And don't "next week" us time
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Sat, 23 November 2019, 16:56:31
I highly, HIGHLY suggest ya'll start contacting your credit card companies and doing chargebacks. Give them the whole story. And laugh with them that you spent $x on a handmade keyboard.
This is utterly unacceptable at this point. And I'm from the Southpaw Full Size groupbuy, which has had even LESS updates or movement.
Pretty sure chargebacks (in the US at least) are 90 to 120 days.
I'm still holding out for the parts...
Post by: ktrezzi on Sun, 24 November 2019, 14:42:07
Took my GMK Laser set out of its tray around 13 months ago in anticipation for this board that would soon get delivered, lol. Have since moved appartment and my layout's GMK Laser caps are waiting in a plastic bag.
"Soon" :))
I wanted to build that keyboard for work, in the meantime I changed my job twice
Update: I ordered that keyboard two jobs AND one girlfriend ago.
I highly, HIGHLY suggest ya'll start contacting your credit card companies and doing chargebacks. Give them the whole story. And laugh with them that you spent $x on a handmade keyboard.
This is utterly unacceptable at this point. And I'm from the Southpaw Full Size groupbuy, which has had even LESS updates or movement.
Pretty sure chargebacks (in the US at least) are 90 to 120 days.
I'm still holding out for the parts...
But we are reaching 2 years next month
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Sun, 24 November 2019, 17:46:26
Took my GMK Laser set out of its tray around 13 months ago in anticipation for this board that would soon get delivered, lol. Have since moved appartment and my layout's GMK Laser caps are waiting in a plastic bag.
"Soon" :))
I wanted to build that keyboard for work, in the meantime I changed my job twice
Update: I ordered that keyboard, two jobs AND one girlfriend ago.I highly, HIGHLY suggest ya'll start contacting your credit card companies and doing chargebacks. Give them the whole story. And laugh with them that you spent $x on a handmade keyboard.
This is utterly unacceptable at this point. And I'm from the Southpaw Full Size groupbuy, which has had even LESS updates or movement.
Pretty sure chargebacks (in the US at least) are 90 to 120 days.
I'm still holding out for the parts...
But we are reaching 2 years next month
I'm well aware of how long it's been lol.
Too long for chargebacks.
I'm not really interested in that anyhow. I think that maybe reconsiderit just needs a hand, or needs to put some time aside to blast through this.
I don't know their schedule/personal life or whatever, but just taking a weekend to push through this and get orders out would be a good start.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 25 November 2019, 02:25:01
I'll update as I go and when/if things change.
(https://i.imgur.com/d1pIQf5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rz68ZMe.jpg)
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 25 November 2019, 02:26:24
I'm not really interested in that anyhow. I think that maybe reconsiderit just needs a hand, or needs to put some time aside to blast through this.
I don't know their schedule/personal life or whatever, but just taking a weekend to push through this and get orders out would be a good start.
Yeah, maybe, maybe both. But then you have to take advantage of an offer like this and not keep your mouth shut all the time. As I said, I really appreciate if people are organizing GBs but you simply can't communicate like this and tell people on a monthly basis that "next week" you are going to do this.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 25 November 2019, 02:26:50
I'm trying to get as many of them out right now to get packages out before the BFCM rush starts impacting packages. I've completed packaging the small boxes that will go inside each order with add ons and small parts that are needed with each order. As of now, I have 5 orders going out tomorrow and will try and get the rest between now and Wednesday.
I'll update as I go and when/if things change.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/d1pIQf5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rz68ZMe.jpg)
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GB Participants
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Post by: weetjewel on Mon, 25 November 2019, 09:21:52
I'm trying to get as many of them out right now to get packages out before the BFCM rush starts impacting packages. I've completed packaging the small boxes that will go inside each order with add ons and small parts that are needed with each order. As of now, I have 5 orders going out tomorrow and will try and get the rest between now and Wednesday.
I'll update as I go and when/if things change.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/d1pIQf5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rz68ZMe.jpg)
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Does this include people that ordered through Candykeys?
Post by: green_mmq on Mon, 25 November 2019, 15:18:20
I'm trying to get as many of them out right now to get packages out before the BFCM rush starts impacting packages. I've completed packaging the small boxes that will go inside each order with add ons and small parts that are needed with each order. As of now, I have 5 orders going out tomorrow and will try and get the rest between now and Wednesday.
I'll update as I go and when/if things change.
Does this include the orders requiring assembly? Also which email should we be contacting to update addresses? I'd tried contacting switchplate by email a couple times earlier this month to update an address but hadn't received a response.
Seems like there is a light at the end of the tunnel! It may have taken some time but I am sooo psyched to start using this board (and to wipe off the dust from the keycaps I've been saving for it!) :thumb:
Post by: tentboy on Mon, 25 November 2019, 16:27:55
Post by: euphxenos on Mon, 25 November 2019, 18:31:08
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 25 November 2019, 18:59:37
I'm trying to get as many of them out right now to get packages out before the BFCM rush starts impacting packages. I've completed packaging the small boxes that will go inside each order with add ons and small parts that are needed with each order. As of now, I have 5 orders going out tomorrow and will try and get the rest between now and Wednesday.
I'll update as I go and when/if things change.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/d1pIQf5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rz68ZMe.jpg)
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GB Participants
Please confirm that your address is correct via the order confirmation. If you no longer have that, please email me to check.
Does this include people that ordered through Candykeys?
I might've posted it in the discord but I've communicated with Candykeys and they should be taking the cases in next week. I'll check in with them at the end of next week towards the beginning of December.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 25 November 2019, 19:01:24
I'm trying to get as many of them out right now to get packages out before the BFCM rush starts impacting packages. I've completed packaging the small boxes that will go inside each order with add ons and small parts that are needed with each order. As of now, I have 5 orders going out tomorrow and will try and get the rest between now and Wednesday.
I'll update as I go and when/if things change.
Does this include the orders requiring assembly? Also which email should we be contacting to update addresses? I'd tried contacting switchplate by email a couple times earlier this month to update an address but hadn't received a response.
The tray parts were assembled when I received the plates. I need to bolt those into the cases and test. Should be all good to go then. I'll try and get them out before Thursday, but I'll update if things change.
Seems like there is a light at the end of the tunnel! It may have taken some time but I am sooo psyched to start using this board (and to wipe off the dust from the keycaps I've been saving for it!) :thumb:
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 25 November 2019, 19:05:39
(https://i.imgur.com/i6bzdFX.jpg)
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Post by: grossvogel on Tue, 26 November 2019, 00:02:21
Unfortunately, if you were planning to use them as is, it's not the finish that I had intended originally. If you're in this second group, please reach out to me and I can help work something out.Nope, that's not the keyboard I was waiting for. I ordered mine through CandyKeys, does that mean I'm on my own when it comes to figuring out how to make it look halfway decent?
Post by: Nigolski on Tue, 26 November 2019, 04:51:22
Unfortunately, if you were planning to use them as is, it's not the finish that I had intended originally. If you're in this second group, please reach out to me and I can help work something out.Nope, that's not the keyboard I was waiting for. I ordered mine through CandyKeys, does that mean I'm on my own when it comes to figuring out how to make it look halfway decent?
I ordered my raw case from CandyKeys too but I hope they don't just ship them to us looking like that because they look pretty ****ing bad ngl
Post by: ktrezzi on Wed, 27 November 2019, 02:52:21
I ordered my raw case from CandyKeys too but I hope they don't just ship them to us looking like that because they look pretty ****ing bad ngl
I mean...technically, the cases are as raw as it could get ;D ;D
Post by: Pings on Wed, 27 November 2019, 11:04:40
I'm trying to get as many of them out right now to get packages out before the BFCM rush starts impacting packages. I've completed packaging the small boxes that will go inside each order with add ons and small parts that are needed with each order. As of now, I have 5 orders going out tomorrow and will try and get the rest between now and Wednesday.
I'll update as I go and when/if things change.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/d1pIQf5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rz68ZMe.jpg)
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GB Participants
Please confirm that your address is correct via the order confirmation. If you no longer have that, please email me to check.
I bought 1116 from a person who sold their spot from another person who sold their spot. I emailed you about this and got the OK from you yourself. I checked the order confirmation and the info was updated to my address and name but the order confirmation is no longer working. Check your emails.
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 27 November 2019, 20:59:13
Unfortunately I didn't get to all the packages today. Was able to ship out a few more, but again, they're mostly packaged. I should be able to get some more out on Friday. Tomorrow is Thanksgiving and I should have time to finish quite a few orders. If you'd like your order held to ship after the BFCM rush, please shoot me an email.
Post by: tentboy on Thu, 28 November 2019, 05:45:39
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 29 November 2019, 14:21:16
A few more will be going out today. A reminder that once the package is dropped off, I cannot change the delivery address.
Post by: zwolof2 on Sat, 30 November 2019, 06:20:04
Post by: Pings on Sun, 01 December 2019, 11:19:45
Post by: Pings on Sun, 01 December 2019, 23:37:33
I have no idea where the reset switch is I need to use a magnet with or even how to do that. Could I get some detailed instructions with photos if at all possible?
Is there any way we could get some Easy AVG love? https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0
Lubed Tribosys 3204 Tealios V2 switches, 55g springs from Catweewee/Switchmod, and DSS Dolch
(https://i.imgur.com/ftZ3lPv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TzzXXSH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bJE3EVA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PfpgwZS.jpg)
Post by: bmilcs on Mon, 02 December 2019, 11:18:26
I now have 3 boards to build --- Jane v2, Duck Orion v3 and now this :X.
Buying and renovating your first home has taken precedence over the keyboard game.
Post by: splodeybaloney on Mon, 02 December 2019, 13:20:30
That sale may have fallen through, still looking for a black full aluminum kit, anyone wanting to sell please message me.
Post by: Valyns on Tue, 03 December 2019, 10:27:08
Post by: Krazzios on Wed, 04 December 2019, 18:11:57
Post by: weetjewel on Fri, 06 December 2019, 11:47:22
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 06 December 2019, 11:57:46
I would also like to know about the Candykeys orders, I think we deserve an update or a picture of the boards.
Ill reach out to Candykeys tonight and see where they are in the process.
As for the remaining boards, I hope to get more shipped out this coming week. All that's left is to wrap the cases, label and ship so it shouldn't be long for those who are waiting.
Post by: ktrezzi on Sat, 07 December 2019, 05:01:23
I talked to David from Candykeys last week, it seems like things will ship the coming week :) He also mentioned that each person will be e-mailed to confirm that you all got the right builds content.
I'm sure he will post an update by himself in this thread soon.
Post by: Pings on Sun, 08 December 2019, 12:40:26
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Sun, 08 December 2019, 15:52:06
Are there any YouTube videos, how-to posts, or maybe even a Discord I can go into to learn how to program this keyboard?
I'm sure there is more out there, but https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2625784#msg2625784 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2625784#msg2625784) would be a start
Post by: Pings on Mon, 09 December 2019, 01:27:21
Are there any YouTube videos, how-to posts, or maybe even a Discord I can go into to learn how to program this keyboard?
I'm sure there is more out there, but https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2625784#msg2625784 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2625784#msg2625784) would be a start
6) Now reset the board by moving a magnet over the reset switch or by connecting the two pads if you've opted to snip it off. It should now enter bootloader mode and show up on tkg if you have the extension installed on chrome. You can also use TKG toolkit for this step. Note that TKG will not compile or flash if there is something that doesn't make sense in the layout. Check if the later box is outlined in red and click it to see any problems that you need to resolve.
I am stuck on number 6. What reset switch, can I get a photo? Not too sure what the two pads are and I didn't snip anything off. I downloaded the TKG Toolkit but I don't have a clue how to do that and I don't want to make things worse. What Chrome extension, I found a Chrome app but not an extension. Does anyone have a link to the said extension? Let's say I reset it with a magnet where and how on tkg.io do I enter bootloader mode then flash from there?
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Mon, 09 December 2019, 19:01:56
Are there any YouTube videos, how-to posts, or maybe even a Discord I can go into to learn how to program this keyboard?
I'm sure there is more out there, but https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2625784#msg2625784 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2625784#msg2625784) would be a start
6) Now reset the board by moving a magnet over the reset switch or by connecting the two pads if you've opted to snip it off. It should now enter bootloader mode and show up on tkg if you have the extension installed on chrome. You can also use TKG toolkit for this step. Note that TKG will not compile or flash if there is something that doesn't make sense in the layout. Check if the later box is outlined in red and click it to see any problems that you need to resolve.
I am stuck on number 6. What reset switch, can I get a photo? Not too sure what the two pads are and I didn't snip anything off. I downloaded the TKG Toolkit but I don't have a clue how to do that and I don't want to make things worse. What Chrome extension, I found a Chrome app but not an extension. Does anyone have a link to the said extension? Let's say I reset it with a magnet where and how on tkg.io do I enter bootloader mode then flash from there?
I'll try to take a Pic of my pcb tonight and upload it, I think I know where the reset button/pads are.
The chrome app/extension may be the same, but I'm unsure because I haven't started working on mine yet.
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 10 December 2019, 01:00:43
Are there any YouTube videos, how-to posts, or maybe even a Discord I can go into to learn how to program this keyboard?
I'm sure there is more out there, but https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2625784#msg2625784 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2625784#msg2625784) would be a start
6) Now reset the board by moving a magnet over the reset switch or by connecting the two pads if you've opted to snip it off. It should now enter bootloader mode and show up on tkg if you have the extension installed on chrome. You can also use TKG toolkit for this step. Note that TKG will not compile or flash if there is something that doesn't make sense in the layout. Check if the later box is outlined in red and click it to see any problems that you need to resolve.
I am stuck on number 6. What reset switch, can I get a photo? Not too sure what the two pads are and I didn't snip anything off. I downloaded the TKG Toolkit but I don't have a clue how to do that and I don't want to make things worse. What Chrome extension, I found a Chrome app but not an extension. Does anyone have a link to the said extension? Let's say I reset it with a magnet where and how on tkg.io do I enter bootloader mode then flash from there?
(https://i.imgur.com/LV0SGEn.jpg)
This is the reset switch in question. Any magnet will do. If you've asked for it to be resoldered, it will be on the other side in the same position.
If it hasn't been resoldered, it bottoms out on the alu case and you will either need to clip it or move it. If clipped, you can short (connect) the pads where the switch once was to do the same thing as running the magnet over it.
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 10 December 2019, 01:06:34
Post by: Krazzios on Tue, 10 December 2019, 16:49:06
However, no info since reconsiderit contacted them.
Post by: Krazzios on Tue, 10 December 2019, 18:15:33
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 12 December 2019, 05:33:16
Sorry about the silence. Shipping 3 preorder and GB batches is a bit crazy for the small team we are. The long and tedious process of matching everything to each order has now begun. This will not be easy so do bare with us.
The GB parts like case and PCB, plates etc. etc. are here, what however might differ now to the orders from 2 years ago is the small bits and addons, like LEDs, Stabs, Switches.
We will now reach out to each one of you per mail (please check spam) and let you know what will ship and then we will offer a alternate product or a refund of those small additions. IF it happens that for some reason case colors or plates are not matching due to some reason to the invoice or possible change that you made to the order, then you MUST let us know whenm we write the mail. IF you do not get a mail by sunday, PLEASE reach out to us. The old website system is really screwed and we are working off our saved invoices and the emails in those invoices, we also have a excel file containing the newest changes for people that made changes, so we should get things right from the beginning.
Post by: grossvogel on Thu, 12 December 2019, 11:40:29
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 13 December 2019, 01:12:03
Post by: splodeybaloney on Fri, 13 December 2019, 10:38:37
Post by: speaktobrett on Mon, 16 December 2019, 00:13:15
Hate to post again but I may still be looking for a black full aluminum kit, if anyone is selling please let me know or I'll try and hold out to hear back about extra kits.
You can have my spot if you like. It's ordered through CandyKeys. Pm me
Post by: briannnn on Tue, 17 December 2019, 01:58:10
Though in trying to get it flashed I have run into a speed bump: The Kimera - XD85 is no longer listed on the tkg.io programmer, only XD84. I don't know if this is the issue affecting my inability to program and flash the board but it seems to be the first issue I'd need to fix before getting further into programming details.
Post by: Krazzios on Tue, 17 December 2019, 04:46:09
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 17 December 2019, 05:00:11
I'm going to have one helluva story to tell from the two years this board has been in GB.
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 17 December 2019, 05:01:23
Got my board today, it's a Christmas miracle.
Though in trying to get it flashed I have run into a speed bump: The Kimera - XD85 is no longer listed on the tkg.io programmer, only XD84. I don't know if this is the issue affecting my inability to program and flash the board but it seems to be the first issue I'd need to fix before getting further into programming details.
Use Kai.tkg.io as krazzios says. You will still need to install the browser extension if you want to flash directly from the configurator.
Post by: briannnn on Tue, 17 December 2019, 06:54:36
It very much is, make sure to use the correct site: https://kai.tkg.io/#
Thanks so much!
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Tue, 17 December 2019, 10:47:20
It very much is, make sure to use the correct site: https://kai.tkg.io/#
Thanks so much!
That all being said, is there a way to program and flash this board without a webconfigurator? Don't like the idea of depending on a web service and browser extenstion that could suddenly be unsupported/disappear.
Post by: Lunarahi on Wed, 18 December 2019, 01:44:43
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Sun, 22 December 2019, 13:37:52
It very much is, make sure to use the correct site: https://kai.tkg.io/#
Thanks so much!
That all being said, is there a way to program and flash this board without a webconfigurator? Don't like the idea of depending on a web service and browser extenstion that could suddenly be unsupported/disappear.
Got my board today, it's a Christmas miracle.
Though in trying to get it flashed I have run into a speed bump: The Kimera - XD85 is no longer listed on the tkg.io programmer, only XD84. I don't know if this is the issue affecting my inability to program and flash the board but it seems to be the first issue I'd need to fix before getting further into programming details.
Use Kai.tkg.io as krazzios says. You will still need to install the browser extension if you want to flash directly from the configurator.
Is there any way to configure and flash this board without a browser and extension?
Post by: lakeboredom on Sun, 22 December 2019, 19:19:19
Post by: Krazzios on Sun, 22 December 2019, 21:41:16
Is there any way to configure and flash this board without a browser and extension?
I'll be honest, I'm pretty green when it comes to firmware. But just googling a bit led me to this guide: https://imgur.com/a/rfezG
There seems to be some info on how to use the TKG toolbox in there, basically what the chrome extension does but offline.
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Mon, 23 December 2019, 09:15:23
Is there any way to configure and flash this board without a browser and extension?
I'll be honest, I'm pretty green when it comes to firmware. But just googling a bit led me to this guide: https://imgur.com/a/rfezG
There seems to be some info on how to use the TKG toolbox in there, basically what the chrome extension does but offline.
Word, thank you, I'll have to take a look at this and see if it's adaptable to this board.
Post by: Koatl on Mon, 23 December 2019, 13:27:20
I'd like to purchase any extras or a built/unbuilt board from anyone.
EDIT: I see round 2 is coming around late this year or early next year. Nice.
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Fri, 27 December 2019, 12:08:26
Small update but should be able to get remaining orders out by the end of the week given no issues. Wrapping up school tomorrow and should have time to wrap everything up and bring this all to a close.
I'm going to have one helluva story to tell from the two years this board has been in GB.
Any update on how close to shipped everything is?
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Sun, 29 December 2019, 23:41:25
Small update but should be able to get remaining orders out by the end of the week given no issues. Wrapping up school tomorrow and should have time to wrap everything up and bring this all to a close.
What's the status on this? Is everything shipped?
Can we please get an update?
Post by: weetjewel on Mon, 30 December 2019, 00:28:50
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 30 December 2019, 13:33:53
Packages will be shipped on 3rd of January.
Please note: I don't work for CK but I got the information from the owner.
Post by: lakeboredom on Mon, 30 December 2019, 17:08:49
Post by: blue sky on Mon, 30 December 2019, 17:28:22
I still have nothing and can't build my keyboard... It a little bit disappointing.
I have order it from CK.
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Mon, 30 December 2019, 18:32:37
Anyone have some news about the acrylic diffusers for bent plates ?
I still have nothing and can't build my keyboard... It a little bit disappointing.
I have order it from CK.
There was something about that earlier in the thread, I'd suggest reaching out to CK for info/assistance.
Post by: NoncarbonatedClack on Sat, 04 January 2020, 00:27:08
Small update but should be able to get remaining orders out by the end of the week given no issues. Wrapping up school tomorrow and should have time to wrap everything up and bring this all to a close.
I'm going to have one helluva story to tell from the two years this board has been in GB.
Last update was 18 days ago, could we PLEASE get an update on where the rest of our parts are? Radio silence is getting quite frustrating.
Post by: Pings on Sat, 04 January 2020, 21:56:57
Post by: Krazzios on Sat, 04 January 2020, 22:57:56
Is there a way to program the red LEDs I bought to turn on and off with a press of a button?
Set an extra fn-key somewhere, and in the Fn-settings scroll down to "Backlight action" and pick "Toggle"
Post by: Pings on Sun, 05 January 2020, 01:00:36
Is there a way to program the red LEDs I bought to turn on and off with a press of a button?
Set an extra fn-key somewhere, and in the Fn-settings scroll down to "Backlight action" and pick "Toggle"
Thank you that worked. Got it fully programmed now. Now to solder the LEDs tomorrow and I'm 100% done.
Layer 0:
(https://i.imgur.com/s9r9tvH.png)
Layer 1:
(https://i.imgur.com/lBMEXOo.png)
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/114d68683899e75631c35da5c02ddd5a
Post by: Pings on Sun, 05 January 2020, 16:26:43
Southpaw Extended 65% for Dummies
01. Install the prerequisites Here:
• Driver update using Zadig here (https://github.com/pbatard/libwdi/releases/download/b721/zadig-2.4.exe). It might be optional but I ended up needing it.
(https://i.imgur.com/xHmrWQE.png)
• Install the TKG Chrome App Chrome Extension here (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tkg-chrome-app/kmbmjdabhpdnpeobnbdchihdcdaccidi).
02. Choose a Layer 0 layout from keyboard-layout-editor.com (KLE). Customize your keys with these (https://kai.tkg.io/#help) Available Labels.
• Southpaw 65+ Master and All Options (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/cbe2768aee67b5ebe8ddf3b78d0cb1a0) (if you are going to edit and use this make sure to switch the Key Colors back to #cccccc)
• Layout 1 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/0e4e47b7aceafb8fae879d4b890981f7)
03. Make a Layer 1 layout from keyboard-layout-editor.com (KLE). Customize your keys with these (https://kai.tkg.io/#help) Available Labels.
• Blank Layout 1 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/fe89c2c269845a35406c570280053eda)
04. Go to the TKG TMK Keymap Generator page here (https://kai.tkg.io/#).
05. Set up your General information.
• Click Config
(https://i.imgur.com/VTp46CC.png)
• Under Preset change Default to XD85 then click Close.
(https://i.imgur.com/qRnOGGV.png)
06. Set up your Layer information.
• Go back to keyboard-layout-editor.com (KLE) and copy the info under </> Raw Data tab.
(https://i.imgur.com/uFpov2d.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/6A0ayqs.png)
• From there go back to the TKG TMK Keymap Generator page and paste the info under Layer 0 and Layer 1.
(https://i.imgur.com/Bvb3t6p.png)
07. Set up the Fn information. (Place Fn1, Fn2, Fn3 and so on keys in your layouts to allow you to different functions such as layers, LEDs, and macros.)
• For example, I have 2 layers and LEDs. I have Fn1 set to Layer 1 with Fn2, Fn3, and Fn4 set to LED options.
• I have Layer 1 setup set to Fn1 as [Layer action > Momentary] + [layer 1]
(https://i.imgur.com/udGADHC.png)
• [Others > Built-in function] + [RGB LED] + [Optional] is the RGBs on the back of the board.
(https://i.imgur.com/fVCfFV3.png)
08. Set up your LED info.
• LED1 is for your backlighting. Set the binding to None and check only the box that says backlight.
• LED2 is for your caps lock LED.
• LED3 is for your numlock LED.
• LED4 is for your RGB backlight. Set that to active high, set the binding to None, and check only the box that says backlight.
(https://i.imgur.com/ngiS0KG.png)
09. Now that you filled out all of the needed info it's time to flash these settings.
• Reset the board by moving a magnet over the reset switch or by connecting the two pads if you've opted to snip it off. (It turns out that I can reset mine with it assembled by waving a magnet in between my LAlt and Space keys.)
(https://i.imgur.com/i4PxXW5.png)
• On the TKG TMK Keymap Generator page at the bottom [Burn .hex file] will turn all the way green. Click on it to flash these settings.
(https://i.imgur.com/KMllv0l.png)
• Assuming everything went smoothly a bar will pop up with 2 parts letting you know it's complete.
(https://i.imgur.com/oBnkzzM.png)
This was my 1st build and I found it a bit hard to understand what was what. So I made this to help out the newbs like myself. Note that TKG TMK Keymap Generator page will not compile or flash if there is something that doesn't make sense in the layout. Check if the later box is outlined in red and click it to see any problems that you need to resolve. I would have taken the time to make every possible combination but KLE doesn't let me save as so it keeps overwriting the other layouts I made. If you would like to have you layouts for Layer 0 and Layer 1 under steps 3 and 4 let me know and I will update this post.
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:46:09
Post by: weetjewel on Tue, 07 January 2020, 09:27:48
CK Customers, all packages are done! Yesterday was a bank holiday we were not counting on and did not even know about. So now they just have to come nad pick up the packages! Happy Building!
Thank you very much for all the work and the update! Happy New Year!
Post by: speaktobrett on Tue, 07 January 2020, 16:07:08
CK Customers, all packages are done! Yesterday was a bank holiday we were not counting on and did not even know about. So now they just have to come nad pick up the packages! Happy Building!
Very exciting news!! Thank you.
Will we receive tracking numbers for our orders?
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 08 January 2020, 14:12:31
Post by: duck pauper on Thu, 09 January 2020, 09:33:54
Thanks.
Post by: Krazzios on Wed, 15 January 2020, 10:31:26
Post by: ktrezzi on Wed, 15 January 2020, 14:57:13
My tracking from CK has been stuck on "Order information has been transmitted to DPD" for a week now. Anyone else?
Was the same for me. That usually happens when the label is generated online but not yet picked up by the carrier.
Mine arrived today - Bent plate model. Wasn't in the mood to check it out to be honest cause the whole waiting and the basically non existent comunication in this thread robbed a bit of my pleasure - But looks good from a first glimpse
Post by: edj628 on Fri, 17 January 2020, 10:47:49
Does anyone know who manufactures the pcb, or if there is a datasheet floating around somewhere?
Post by: lakeboredom on Sat, 18 January 2020, 03:00:09
Post by: ktrezzi on Sun, 19 January 2020, 07:52:55
Post by: HowObvious on Sun, 19 January 2020, 08:29:55
Anyone planing an ISO build? It seems that my switch for the ISO Enter doesn't fit with the stabs or I am too stupid. Anyone tried it with success?
You will need to file down the right side of the plate to fit the switch properly. If you go back through this thread there are a few pictures.
Post by: ktrezzi on Sun, 19 January 2020, 11:28:07
I just got my order from Candykeys today. Gotta say I'm really impressed with the heft of the bent plate case.
However I'm having an issue mounting the switch for my iso-enter. Honestly it feels like the plate is in the way, like the hole isn't big enough or its not cut properly. Well I mean I hope it's just me being an idiot but can someone have a look at these pics and let me know who you think?
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
Found it, thanks! But still don't know what to file? :D
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Sun, 19 January 2020, 16:50:10
Are these out now?
Post by: bearwolfz on Mon, 20 January 2020, 01:43:33
I have a candy keys order but not received any shipping information or anything
Are these out now?
Post by: Krazzios on Mon, 20 January 2020, 18:20:33
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649888230933528596/668968135772078100/IMG_20200121_005937.jpg)
Unfortunately, CK didn't realize that they were supposed to source the hardware themselves so none were included. I e-mailed David, and he's getting on it ASAP.
Just thought I'd let everyone else know.
Post by: HowObvious on Tue, 21 January 2020, 11:32:49
Found it, thanks! But still don't know what to file? :D
(https://i.imgur.com/FKOZNRq.jpg)
The white line on the PCB is the outline of where the switch should fit, you need to clear enough space on the plate for it to fit.
Post by: Krazzios on Tue, 21 January 2020, 16:15:10
I've used zadig, I've followed the guide, even tried flashing manually (inluding erasing eeprom beforehand). Nothing works.
Any ideas?
EDIT:
(https://puu.sh/F2wkL/6f6530cbc1.png)
EDIT#2:
Disregard what I previously said. My problem was that I used Zadig on the board when it wasn't in bootloader. So if you encounter what I did, go to device manager and uninstall all of the Kimera drivers, and it should work.
Post by: ktrezzi on Wed, 22 January 2020, 12:52:27
Found it, thanks! But still don't know what to file? :DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/FKOZNRq.jpg)
The white line on the PCB is the outline of where the switch should fit, you need to clear enough space on the plate for it to fit.
Thank you very much!
Picked up my package from CK tonight.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/649888230933528596/668968135772078100/IMG_20200121_005937.jpg)
Unfortunately, CK didn't realize that they were supposed to source the hardware themselves so none were included. I e-mailed David, and he's getting on it ASAP.
Just thought I'd let everyone else know.
What is missing?
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 22 January 2020, 13:44:00
so we are now working on the screws for all the kits, sadly still some plates are missing but we will reconfirm this to make sure. The people who have DPD waiting for pick up are the first to leave next. The ones that are not with at racking number go after. All is in random order.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 23 January 2020, 02:32:09
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzW35722LaaxbYut-EYNpxquPWcZq40x9o-8dkqCLGo/edit?usp=sharing
I have a handful of extras, but am working on some stuff for southpaw full size at the moment. Will get those up sometime soon.
Post by: Koatl on Thu, 23 January 2020, 10:11:20
So.. I'm guessing there are no extras?
Wondering that myself. Time to stalk the aftermarket I suppose.
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 27 January 2020, 08:34:15
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 28 January 2020, 03:55:52
Is this normal? How am I supposed to know, if a new keysets fit? I wanted to pull the trigger on a GMK set usually...but I don't want to spend 150€ with the risk of a non fitting Enter? (Tbh I didn't plan to spend any money on that hobbie :D)
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 31 January 2020, 21:08:49
Edit: Haven't put up extras yet. Am sorting out other things right now but will post here once they're up. Please don't email or PM me about extras.
Post by: weetjewel on Tue, 11 February 2020, 13:40:43
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Sat, 15 February 2020, 19:15:24
Post by: Nigolski on Sat, 15 February 2020, 19:28:59
So what's going on with the CK Southpaws?
Post by: bearwolfz on Sun, 16 February 2020, 02:59:37
Give me a little time and I can mock up an ISO enter with a GMK set on my end.
Also wanting an update from CK. Every time I email them they're like "oh yeah it's here, it's its shipping soon."
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 17 February 2020, 04:02:03
Did you try this? I'm only getting this for an iso layout. If the enter is misaligned that's a huge bummer.Give me a little time and I can mock up an ISO enter with a GMK set on my end.
I'm not sure if it's the "poorer" quality of the Tai Hao keycapset I have at home. Would be nice to know definetly if you could double check it please @reconsiderit. I wrapped my head around a GMK set and don't want to spend (too) much money on a keyset which could not be fitting
Post by: weetjewel on Sat, 22 February 2020, 06:33:44
Post by: EitherEther on Sat, 22 February 2020, 19:55:54
No updates. No keyboards.
Will I ever get these keyboards? Will I forever regret not taking the refund?
Tomorrow is another day.
There I go being
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 24 February 2020, 06:41:36
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 26 February 2020, 03:56:23
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 10 March 2020, 08:40:35
Give me a little time and I can mock up an ISO enter with a GMK set on my end.
It took you longer to get this done instead of me finding an ISO keycap set from China while Corona is at it's peak - This means something. Again, I don't know your personal situation but don't say you do something and than do nothing and say nothing for 1.5 months. (After everything).
Anyways for you guys - I got my hands on a KBD Muted keycap set, this one fits. So far I've tested the original Pok3r keycap set (fits) and the KPRepublic Muted (fits) - Tai Hao Miami does not fit, so maybe be careful with that one. I still don't know why I didn't fit.
Here is a pic:
https://imgur.com/a/pgvLXUs
Hope you all get your keyboards soon :/
Post by: bearwolfz on Tue, 10 March 2020, 09:42:35
It took you longer to get this done instead of me finding an ISO keycap set from China while Corona is at it's peak - This means something. Again, I don't know your personal situation but don't say you do something and than do nothing and say nothing for 1.5 months. (After everything).
Anyways for you guys - I got my hands on a KBD Muted keycap set, this one fits. So far I've tested the original Pok3r keycap set (fits) and the KPRepublic Muted (fits) - Tai Hao Miami does not fit, so maybe be careful with that one. I still don't know why I didn't fit.
Here is a pic:
https://imgur.com/a/pgvLXUs
Hope you all get your keyboards soon :/
Thanks! This makes me more positive waiting for my ellusive CK delivery :)
Post by: ktrezzi on Wed, 11 March 2020, 04:21:40
Plus, does anybody with a bent case knows what kind of screws I have to use to put on the acrylic diffusor?
(https://i.imgur.com/CD9e4wg.jpg)
Post by: pegasus21 on Mon, 16 March 2020, 11:58:40
default is 3x1U on right of spacebar
default2 is 2x1.5U on right of spacebar
default_iso is 3x1U on right of spacebar
default_iso2 is 2x1.5U on right of spacebar
Backlight, underglow and capslock leds are working. I'm not sure if there's anything else that needs to be corrected but you should be able to correct it yourself easily.
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 16 March 2020, 12:07:31
Can you the share the files with me or how does it work? I never programmed a full keyboard, only the layers of my Pok3r so I have no idea. (And no magnet) But a lot of time due to COVID :D
Post by: pegasus21 on Mon, 16 March 2020, 12:23:19
Cool! Thanks :)
Can you the share the files with me or how does it work? I never programmed a full keyboard, only the layers of my Pok3r so I have no idea. (And no magnet) But a lot of time due to COVID :D
Ideally you should edit the keymap according to what you want and if you don't have a magnet, get something to short the reed switch to enter bootloader mode. The keymap for the attached compiled files is in the source files in the earlier attachment.
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 17 March 2020, 02:40:41
Thanks for the attachement, didn't notice it first.
Post by: pegasus21 on Tue, 17 March 2020, 03:19:54
Thank you! So I could use something like a cable and put in at the same time on those pins? :D
Thanks for the attachement, didn't notice it first.
Plug in the keyboard then get something to short the reed switch. You don’t have to short it while inserting the cable.
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 17 March 2020, 07:01:40
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 17 March 2020, 07:44:29
Southpaw Extended 65% for Dummies
01. Install the prerequisites Here:
• Driver update using Zadig here (https://github.com/pbatard/libwdi/releases/download/b721/zadig-2.4.exe). It might be optional but I ended up needing it.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/xHmrWQE.png)
• Install the TKG Chrome App Chrome Extension here (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tkg-chrome-app/kmbmjdabhpdnpeobnbdchihdcdaccidi).
02. Choose a Layer 0 layout from keyboard-layout-editor.com (KLE). Customize your keys with these (https://kai.tkg.io/#help) Available Labels.
• Southpaw 65+ Master and All Options (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/cbe2768aee67b5ebe8ddf3b78d0cb1a0) (if you are going to edit and use this make sure to switch the Key Colors back to #cccccc)
• Layout 1 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/0e4e47b7aceafb8fae879d4b890981f7)
03. Make a Layer 1 layout from keyboard-layout-editor.com (KLE). Customize your keys with these (https://kai.tkg.io/#help) Available Labels.
• Blank Layout 1 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/fe89c2c269845a35406c570280053eda)
04. Go to the TKG TMK Keymap Generator page here (https://kai.tkg.io/#).
05. Set up your General information.
• Click Config
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VTp46CC.png)
• Under Preset change Default to XD85 then click Close.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qRnOGGV.png)
06. Set up your Layer information.
• Go back to keyboard-layout-editor.com (KLE) and copy the info under </> Raw Data tab.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/uFpov2d.png)
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6A0ayqs.png)
• From there go back to the TKG TMK Keymap Generator page and paste the info under Layer 0 and Layer 1.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Bvb3t6p.png)
07. Set up the Fn information. (Place Fn1, Fn2, Fn3 and so on keys in your layouts to allow you to different functions such as layers, LEDs, and macros.)
• For example, I have 2 layers and LEDs. I have Fn1 set to Layer 1 with Fn2, Fn3, and Fn4 set to LED options.
• I have Layer 1 setup set to Fn1 as [Layer action > Momentary] + [layer 1]
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/udGADHC.png)
• [Others > Built-in function] + [RGB LED] + [Optional] is the RGBs on the back of the board.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fVCfFV3.png)
08. Set up your LED info.
• LED1 is for your backlighting. Set the binding to None and check only the box that says backlight.
• LED2 is for your caps lock LED.
• LED3 is for your numlock LED.
• LED4 is for your RGB backlight. Set that to active high, set the binding to None, and check only the box that says backlight.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ngiS0KG.png)
09. Now that you filled out all of the needed info it's time to flash these settings.
• Reset the board by moving a magnet over the reset switch or by connecting the two pads if you've opted to snip it off. (It turns out that I can reset mine with it assembled by waving a magnet in between my LAlt and Space keys.)
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/i4PxXW5.png)
• On the TKG TMK Keymap Generator page at the bottom [Burn .hex file] will turn all the way green. Click on it to flash these settings.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KMllv0l.png)
• Assuming everything went smoothly a bar will pop up with 2 parts letting you know it's complete.
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oBnkzzM.png)
This was my 1st build and I found it a bit hard to understand what was what. So I made this to help out the newbs like myself. Note that TKG TMK Keymap Generator page will not compile or flash if there is something that doesn't make sense in the layout. Check if the later box is outlined in red and click it to see any problems that you need to resolve. I would have taken the time to make every possible combination but KLE doesn't let me save as so it keeps overwriting the other layouts I made. If you would like to have you layouts for Layer 0 and Layer 1 under steps 3 and 4 let me know and I will update this post.
@pegasus21 where do I start with this guide and your files? Where do I upload/enter the .c file from you? Could you help me out here again please?
EDIT: Wait - These instructions are saying "TKG" but your filename says QMK? Arent those two kind of software to program a keeb?
Post by: pegasus21 on Tue, 17 March 2020, 09:08:19
@pegasus21 where do I start with this guide and your files? Where do I upload/enter the .c file from you? Could you help me out here again please?
EDIT: Wait - These instructions are saying "TKG" but your filename says QMK? Arent those two kind of software to program a keeb?
Yes they are both to program a kb. The original firmware that is supported by this kb is based on TMK.
I made a QMK port for this board.
If all you want is to program the kb and don't care about what firmware you're using, then you can follow the instructions you pasted for TMK.
If you need help in setting up the QMK build and flashing environment, I suggest reading the QMK documentation. They are quite detailed in how to get you started.
https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_getting_started (https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_getting_started)
https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_building_firmware (https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_building_firmware)
https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_flashing (https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_flashing)
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 17 March 2020, 09:19:30
@pegasus21 where do I start with this guide and your files? Where do I upload/enter the .c file from you? Could you help me out here again please?
EDIT: Wait - These instructions are saying "TKG" but your filename says QMK? Arent those two kind of software to program a keeb?
Yes they are both to program a kb. The original firmware that is supported by this kb is based on TMK.
I made a QMK port for this board.
If all you want is to program the kb and don't care about what firmware you're using, then you can follow the instructions you pasted for TMK.
If you need help in setting up the QMK build and flashing environment, I suggest reading the QMK documentation. They are quite detailed in how to get you started.
https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_getting_started (https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_getting_started)
https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_building_firmware (https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_building_firmware)
https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_flashing (https://docs.qmk.fm/#/newbs_flashing)
Thank you for the additional information. I already bookmarked the QMK links but I was not sure if I understood that correctly that you did a QMK port. I try it with QMK, documentation looks "better" :D
Post by: pegasus21 on Tue, 17 March 2020, 09:23:31
Thank you for the additional information. I already bookmarked the QMK links but I was not sure if I understood that correctly that you did a QMK port. I try it with QMK, documentation looks "better" :D
Technically if you just want to try QMK with the keymaps I supplied, you can just flash QMK with one of the hex files I've included in the linked post https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2876531#msg2876531 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2876531#msg2876531)
In your case, the layout that you can use is default_iso. The mapping of the keys around the right of spacebar and the right most column are a bit different but layout is the same.
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 17 March 2020, 09:50:27
EDIT: I made it :D Like you said, I just flashed it onto the board. I am testing right with QMK Config and everything is working - Thank you very much!!
Post by: speaktobrett on Tue, 17 March 2020, 22:43:16
Hey guys! We have ordered the leftover screws for this, again... We seem to not be hitting the right sizes. When they come we should not take long to ship things. We are aware after matching further orders, that some ALPS plates and silver plates are not available. We will write people when we know for sure.
Any updates CandyKeys?
Post by: pegasus21 on Tue, 17 March 2020, 22:53:25
The thing is I have absolutely no idea about that, like zero. So I have to read the QMK links in any case cause I dont even know how to flash QMK with the Hex files ;)
EDIT: I made it :D Like you said, I just flashed it onto the board. I am testing right with QMK Config and everything is working - Thank you very much!!
That's good to know that the ISO layout works as intended. If you want, you can modify the keymap file under the default_iso folder to suit your needs and then compile the hex for it.
Post by: ktrezzi on Wed, 18 March 2020, 05:33:38
I don't think I have to make any changes tbh - But it was a good to occupy myself a bit with QMK. Would you mind if I do an absolute foolprof (for noobs like me) flash instruction with your file and QMK here for this thread?
Post by: pegasus21 on Wed, 18 March 2020, 05:35:49
Works like a charm :)
I don't think I have to make any changes tbh - But it was a good to occupy myself a bit with QMK. Would you mind if I do an absolute foolprof (for noobs like me) flash instruction with your file and QMK here for this thread?
You could but you might want to wait till it has been added into QMK source tree. Then hopefully it has QMK configurator support which would make it easier to modify keymaps
Post by: ktrezzi on Thu, 19 March 2020, 03:54:54
You know what would be nice? I think I am going to put the arrow keys on a second layer to WASD, same as I have it with my Pok3r. Would this be useful?
Post by: pegasus21 on Thu, 19 March 2020, 03:57:20
Okay :)That's the whole idea of running a firmware that allows you to customise the keymap to your preference. Go wild with it.
You know what would be nice? I think I am going to put the arrow keys on a second layer to WASD, same as I have it with my Pok3r. Would this be useful?
If you're unable to do so, then just wait for the source to be merged into QMK then you can easily customise it on the QMK configurator.
Post by: thejuicebox on Sun, 22 March 2020, 04:20:55
Post by: pegasus21 on Sun, 22 March 2020, 04:23:12
ive got my hands on a bent plate kit atm, was hoping to find some reliable files online for possible printing/laser cutting a high-profile case for this bad boy. if anyone knows of any please let me know!
Reconsiderit did share this on discord
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446011953060773889/458814317077331998/Southpaw_65_Plate_Universal_Rev.F.step
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 23 March 2020, 15:18:44
Post by: pegasus21 on Mon, 23 March 2020, 19:22:12
I'm not sure why the keymap doesn't show up on the configurator but the layout is there so you can manually map the keys.
https://config.qmk.fm/#/switchplate/southpaw_65/LAYOUT_all
Should be relatively simple for most users to use QMK then.
Post by: bearwolfz on Tue, 24 March 2020, 02:14:29
Post by: thejuicebox on Thu, 26 March 2020, 22:03:23
It would be somewhat cool if the bent case would fit into a certain high-profile case :D Like a 2 in 1 solution
if you ever figure that out let me know!!
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 27 March 2020, 05:08:09
Post by: speaktobrett on Mon, 30 March 2020, 23:14:59
Hey guys! We have ordered the leftover screws for this, again... We seem to not be hitting the right sizes. When they come we should not take long to ship things. We are aware after matching further orders, that some ALPS plates and silver plates are not available. We will write people when we know for sure.
When do you expect to be shipping out your orders with the screws?
Post by: weetjewel on Mon, 06 April 2020, 01:12:52
Hey guys! We have ordered the leftover screws for this, again... We seem to not be hitting the right sizes. When they come we should not take long to ship things. We are aware after matching further orders, that some ALPS plates and silver plates are not available. We will write people when we know for sure.
When do you expect to be shipping out your orders with the screws?
I would love to know this aswell. Ordering screws doesn't take months.
Post by: green_mmq on Thu, 09 April 2020, 01:41:59
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 11 April 2020, 06:00:25
I'm holding off on selling what extras I have as I don't want anyone to be SOL and not have anything in hand after two (almost three) years of waiting.
I sent them hardware specs a really long while back and posted them in discord also. Please see below if you need hardware.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzW35722LaaxbYut-EYNpxquPWcZq40x9o-8dkqCLGo/edit?usp=sharing
Post by: thejuicebox on Sat, 11 April 2020, 12:38:42
Update on my end as I've emailed candykeys and they're checking through what items they have on-hand. I'm not sure why this is happening as they should've checked and counted when the keyboards arrived and told me or manu about any missing parts but it seems like that wasn't done.
I'm holding off on selling what extras I have as I don't want anyone to be SOL and not have anything in hand after two (almost three) years of waiting.
I sent them hardware specs a really long while back and posted them in discord also. Please see below if you need hardware.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzW35722LaaxbYut-EYNpxquPWcZq40x9o-8dkqCLGo/edit?usp=sharing
Boyyyyyy what I would do to get my hands on one of your extra Aluminum Cases!!! Love my bent case but god would I kill for the aluminum case
Post by: bearwolfz on Sat, 11 April 2020, 12:54:25
Update on my end as I've emailed candykeys and they're checking through what items they have on-hand. I'm not sure why this is happening as they should've checked and counted when the keyboards arrived and told me or manu about any missing parts but it seems like that wasn't done.
I'm holding off on selling what extras I have as I don't want anyone to be SOL and not have anything in hand after two (almost three) years of waiting.
I sent them hardware specs a really long while back and posted them in discord also. Please see below if you need hardware.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzW35722LaaxbYut-EYNpxquPWcZq40x9o-8dkqCLGo/edit?usp=sharing
Boyyyyyy what I would do to get my hands on one of your extra Aluminum Cases!!! Love my bent case but god would I kill for the aluminum case
I would love to get my hands on my first bent plate :D
I guess candykeys soon will have mined all the ore they need to make the screws.
Post by: EitherEther on Sat, 11 April 2020, 14:15:43
Update on my end as I've emailed candykeys and they're checking through what items they have on-hand. I'm not sure why this is happening as they should've checked and counted when the keyboards arrived and told me or manu about any missing parts but it seems like that wasn't done.
I'm holding off on selling what extras I have as I don't want anyone to be SOL and not have anything in hand after two (almost three) years of waiting.
I sent them hardware specs a really long while back and posted them in discord also. Please see below if you need hardware.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzW35722LaaxbYut-EYNpxquPWcZq40x9o-8dkqCLGo/edit?usp=sharing
Any update on the orders yet to be fulfilled from Switchplate?! What is the delay?
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 15 April 2020, 23:33:27
Update on my end as I've emailed candykeys and they're checking through what items they have on-hand. I'm not sure why this is happening as they should've checked and counted when the keyboards arrived and told me or manu about any missing parts but it seems like that wasn't done.
I'm holding off on selling what extras I have as I don't want anyone to be SOL and not have anything in hand after two (almost three) years of waiting.
I sent them hardware specs a really long while back and posted them in discord also. Please see below if you need hardware.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzW35722LaaxbYut-EYNpxquPWcZq40x9o-8dkqCLGo/edit?usp=sharing
Any update on the orders yet to be fulfilled from Switchplate?! What is the delay?
I have two orders on hand that are waiting for plates since there was a mistake on my end when submitting an order. I should have sent an email to these two orders. If you haven't or did not get one, please contact me asap and I'll get you sorted out.
Post by: speaktobrett on Fri, 17 April 2020, 18:13:21
Update on my end as I've emailed candykeys and they're checking through what items they have on-hand. I'm not sure why this is happening as they should've checked and counted when the keyboards arrived and told me or manu about any missing parts but it seems like that wasn't done.
I'm holding off on selling what extras I have as I don't want anyone to be SOL and not have anything in hand after two (almost three) years of waiting.
I sent them hardware specs a really long while back and posted them in discord also. Please see below if you need hardware.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pzW35722LaaxbYut-EYNpxquPWcZq40x9o-8dkqCLGo/edit?usp=sharing
Yeah CandyKeys really need to get their act together... this is beyond a joke now.
I'm at the point where I just want to forget about this groupbuy.
Post by: weetjewel on Sun, 19 April 2020, 04:02:53
Post by: grossvogel on Thu, 23 April 2020, 03:09:36
Or, you know, you can keep our keyboards and refund us instead. At this point, I don't really care anymore.
Post by: bearwolfz on Fri, 24 April 2020, 03:00:26
Hey @CandyKeys, how about you ship our keyboards to us as they are, and let us source missing hardware on our own?
Or, you know, you can keep our keyboards and refund us instead. At this point, I don't really care anymore.
I still want my bent plate! I think the money lost due to inflation would be worse. It would have been a better investment just buying beer, then we could get some bottle deposit back ;D
Post by: weetjewel on Mon, 04 May 2020, 01:14:46
Post by: MC_kb on Tue, 05 May 2020, 02:40:27
I emailed CK and apparently they are sending out things this week by the looks of it.
Thanks for letting us know :) Even if I'll believe it when the kit is on my desk.
Post by: speaktobrett on Sat, 09 May 2020, 17:28:25
I emailed CK and apparently they are sending out things this week by the looks of it.
Well the week has past and I have not received a tracking number ;)
Take every comment you get from the CandyKey team with a grain of salt. I've been hearing the same rubbish from CandyKeys for months...
Post by: weetjewel on Sun, 10 May 2020, 03:30:20
I emailed CK and apparently they are sending out things this week by the looks of it.
Well the week has past and I have not received a tracking number ;)
Take every comment you get from the CandyKey team with a grain of salt. I've been hearing the same rubbish from CandyKeys for months...
Neither have I, can't say I'm surprised though. I'm convinced our boards don't even exist at this point.
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 11 May 2020, 02:36:02
Post by: Alkahzane on Mon, 11 May 2020, 03:29:05
Post by: weetjewel on Mon, 11 May 2020, 08:53:20
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 13 May 2020, 06:49:12
They are all final now.
I emailed CK and apparently they are sending out things this week by the looks of it.
Well the week has past and I have not received a tracking number ;)
Take every comment you get from the CandyKey team with a grain of salt. I've been hearing the same rubbish from CandyKeys for months...
Neither have I, can't say I'm surprised though. I'm convinced our boards don't even exist at this point.
They exist, but sadly, at the failure of the host or the manufacturer - some orders are missing, including ALPs plates.
I emailed CK and apparently they are sending out things this week by the looks of it.
Well the week has past and I have not received a tracking number ;)
Take every comment you get from the CandyKey team with a grain of salt. I've been hearing the same rubbish from CandyKeys for months...
Yeah - We have not been reliable when it comes to this, by far the worst done GB ever hosted and it has taught us to stay away from keyboard GBs that have 5000 variations in builds and colors.
Post by: grossvogel on Wed, 13 May 2020, 07:57:01
They are all final now.
What exactly does this mean? Are you going to ship the boards this week? Next week? I had my tracking number for four months now.
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 13 May 2020, 08:10:40
16482, 17034
then your order is OK.
IF you have ALPS plates, you will not be getting them, as we never got them.
The order numbers we have packaged are (With main keyboard parts, switches, stabs and screws that belong to the keeb (hurray!))
17109, 17189, 17079, 16520, 14773, 14747, 14737, 14725, 16520, 15103, 17013, 14685, 17027, 16808, 16675, 17056, 16947, 17016, 17165
If your order number is here and you got your keyboard already then lets be worried - but this should not be the case.
ALL other orders are shipped - if your order number is not in the list, PLEASE let us know if you did not receive your products. We have 2 people on our list who are radio silent despite many calls to them. There are 4 orders that are getting screws reshipped, and acryl plates reshipped. If you did not get your acryl plates for bent plate or screws, please write me on e-mail at support@candykeys.com
Post by: bearwolfz on Wed, 13 May 2020, 08:21:04
Your tracking number is still active, checking from your name, we only have 6 open trackings from months ago, we added in screws. If your order number is NOT
16482, 17034
then your order is OK.
IF you have ALPS plates, you will not be getting them, as we never got them.
The order numbers we have packaged are (With main keyboard parts, switches, stabs and screws that belong to the keeb (hurray!))
17109, 17189, 17079, 16520, 14773, 14747, 14737, 14725, 16520, 15103, 17013, 14685, 17027, 16808, 16675, 17056, 16947, 17016, 17165
If your order number is here and you got your keyboard already then lets be worried - but this should not be the case.
ALL other orders are shipped - if your order number is not in the list, PLEASE let us know if you did not receive your products. We have 2 people on our list who are radio silent despite many calls to them. There are 4 orders that are getting screws reshipped, and acryl plates reshipped. If you did not get your acryl plates for bent plate or screws, please write me on e-mail at support@candykeys.com
I got an email in may saying my order was complete, but not a shipping number, my order number is #15966 and not on this list :(
Sent you an email to support@candykeys.com.
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 13 May 2020, 09:17:38
Your tracking number is still active, checking from your name, we only have 6 open trackings from months ago, we added in screws. If your order number is NOT
16482, 17034
then your order is OK.
IF you have ALPS plates, you will not be getting them, as we never got them.
The order numbers we have packaged are (With main keyboard parts, switches, stabs and screws that belong to the keeb (hurray!))
17109, 17189, 17079, 16520, 14773, 14747, 14737, 14725, 16520, 15103, 17013, 14685, 17027, 16808, 16675, 17056, 16947, 17016, 17165
If your order number is here and you got your keyboard already then lets be worried - but this should not be the case.
ALL other orders are shipped - if your order number is not in the list, PLEASE let us know if you did not receive your products. We have 2 people on our list who are radio silent despite many calls to them. There are 4 orders that are getting screws reshipped, and acryl plates reshipped. If you did not get your acryl plates for bent plate or screws, please write me on e-mail at support@candykeys.com
I got an email in may saying my order was complete, but not a shipping number, my order number is #15966 and not on this list :(
Sent you an email to support@candykeys.com.
Post by: MC_kb on Wed, 13 May 2020, 09:49:32
Your tracking number is still active, checking from your name, we only have 6 open trackings from months ago, we added in screws. If your order number is NOT
16482, 17034
then your order is OK.
IF you have ALPS plates, you will not be getting them, as we never got them.
The order numbers we have packaged are (With main keyboard parts, switches, stabs and screws that belong to the keeb (hurray!))
17109, 17189, 17079, 16520, 14773, 14747, 14737, 14725, 16520, 15103, 17013, 14685, 17027, 16808, 16675, 17056, 16947, 17016, 17165
If your order number is here and you got your keyboard already then lets be worried - but this should not be the case.
ALL other orders are shipped - if your order number is not in the list, PLEASE let us know if you did not receive your products. We have 2 people on our list who are radio silent despite many calls to them. There are 4 orders that are getting screws reshipped, and acryl plates reshipped. If you did not get your acryl plates for bent plate or screws, please write me on e-mail at support@candykeys.com
Thanks for the update.
What's the plan for the two orders thar are not OK ? I'm the 17034 :(
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 13 May 2020, 10:07:22
Post by: speaktobrett on Wed, 13 May 2020, 20:13:03
The order numbers we have packaged are (With main keyboard parts, switches, stabs and screws that belong to the keeb (hurray!))
17109, 17189, 17079, 16520, 14773, 14747, 14737, 14725, 16520, 15103, 17013, 14685, 17027, 16808, 16675, 17056, 16947, 17016, 17165
Are you saying these are shipped?
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 14 May 2020, 03:42:57
Post by: ktrezzi on Thu, 14 May 2020, 04:15:15
Would be happy to receive them with a letter or something, doesn't have to be a insured package.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 18 May 2020, 09:02:33
Post by: Alkahzane on Mon, 18 May 2020, 14:44:38
Post by: bearwolfz on Tue, 19 May 2020, 00:21:27
Anyone else haven't gotten any new updates on their shipments even though they should've been shipped out to DPD/DHL Thursday/Friday last week from CK?
Nothing here, they did reply and said the have my order all there, but no info yet on the shipping.
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 19 May 2020, 05:09:38
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 19 May 2020, 05:10:55
Post by: ktrezzi on Wed, 20 May 2020, 01:43:02
If anyone from the EU end is missing things and are stilling looking for them, please send me an email and I'll do what I can to help. I've held on to all canceled orders and extras I have. Will let go of them once I see that everyone on the other side has gotten their orders taken care of.
I just need the screws to mount the difusor...Or at least some of you could tell me, what kind of screws I have to use.
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 20 May 2020, 08:31:15
Post by: speaktobrett on Wed, 20 May 2020, 19:09:43
All people should have DHL updates from us now, DPD ones are still active if they are old. 2 guys are on FEDEX which numbers will be sent manually.
I haven't received any updates.
The only information I have is an old DHL shipping email from you guys dating back to January, however the status is "open" with no information.
This status hasn't changed since January.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 21 May 2020, 01:14:15
If anyone from the EU end is missing things and are stilling looking for them, please send me an email and I'll do what I can to help. I've held on to all canceled orders and extras I have. Will let go of them once I see that everyone on the other side has gotten their orders taken care of.
I just need the screws to mount the difusor...Or at least some of you could tell me, what kind of screws I have to use.
The screws to mount the diffuser aren't listed in that spreadsheet. Those are screws for the alu case only. I'll add them to the spreadsheet linked there in another sheet.
The screws for the diffuser are m2x10mm or m2x12mm with a round stepped brass nut at the bottom that recesses into the diffuser. This secures the diffuser to the PCB. You can space the PCB and diffuser with an o-ring. If you're sourcing this stuff yourself, some thicker o-rings do not work with 10mm long screws and you'll need a 11 or 12mm long screw. The ones that I have on hand are 3mm ID, 8mm OD, 2.5mm cross section and work with m2x12 very well. Screw sits flush with the bottom of the washer iirc.
I have extras of all hardware on hand. LMK if you need these and or bumpons as they are proprietary. Purchased extras of all this stuff in anticipation for future projects but I can send some for the cost of postage to anyone who needs them.
I don't check GH as often as I probably should. If you need anything, shoot me an email at mill@switchplate.co or PM my personal discord. reconsiderit#0001
Post by: grossvogel on Sat, 23 May 2020, 14:06:07
I haven't received any updates.
The only information I have is an old DHL shipping email from you guys dating back to January, however the status is "open" with no information.
This status hasn't changed since January.
Same here.
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 26 May 2020, 08:36:39
I haven't received any updates.
The only information I have is an old DHL shipping email from you guys dating back to January, however the status is "open" with no information.
This status hasn't changed since January.
Same here.
Judging from the location you get your number tonight, and regarding you
All people should have DHL updates from us now, DPD ones are still active if they are old. 2 guys are on FEDEX which numbers will be sent manually.
I haven't received any updates.
The only information I have is an old DHL shipping email from you guys dating back to January, however the status is "open" with no information.
This status hasn't changed since January.
What is your order number?
Post by: speaktobrett on Wed, 27 May 2020, 00:02:16
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 27 May 2020, 16:36:02
.
Oh I saw the location! You wanted a address change last minute so we sent a new FEDEX Number, I hope that is you.
Post by: ktrezzi on Thu, 28 May 2020, 09:37:29
If anyone from the EU end is missing things and are stilling looking for them, please send me an email and I'll do what I can to help. I've held on to all canceled orders and extras I have. Will let go of them once I see that everyone on the other side has gotten their orders taken care of.
I just need the screws to mount the difusor...Or at least some of you could tell me, what kind of screws I have to use.
The screws to mount the diffuser aren't listed in that spreadsheet. Those are screws for the alu case only. I'll add them to the spreadsheet linked there in another sheet.
The screws for the diffuser are m2x10mm or m2x12mm with a round stepped brass nut at the bottom that recesses into the diffuser. This secures the diffuser to the PCB. You can space the PCB and diffuser with an o-ring. If you're sourcing this stuff yourself, some thicker o-rings do not work with 10mm long screws and you'll need a 11 or 12mm long screw. The ones that I have on hand are 3mm ID, 8mm OD, 2.5mm cross section and work with m2x12 very well. Screw sits flush with the bottom of the washer iirc.
I have extras of all hardware on hand. LMK if you need these and or bumpons as they are proprietary. Purchased extras of all this stuff in anticipation for future projects but I can send some for the cost of postage to anyone who needs them.
I don't check GH as often as I probably should. If you need anything, shoot me an email at mill@switchplate.co or PM my personal discord. reconsiderit#0001
But who messed it up with the screws?? It kills me that this thing isn't finished yet 99% - I've been to the hardware store (on our drive in total) and they don't have screws this side. Can you show me a picture of how the screws look like in your keyboard? Tbh I really don't see a point that you ship me screws from the US :D But I see a point in "they should have come with my order"...
@candykeys - Did you receive the screws for the acrylic diffuser from reconsiderit?
Post by: Nigolski on Thu, 28 May 2020, 20:17:23
Post by: bearwolfz on Thu, 28 May 2020, 23:14:03
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 29 May 2020, 00:43:08
If anyone from the EU end is missing things and are stilling looking for them, please send me an email and I'll do what I can to help. I've held on to all canceled orders and extras I have. Will let go of them once I see that everyone on the other side has gotten their orders taken care of.
I just need the screws to mount the difusor...Or at least some of you could tell me, what kind of screws I have to use.
The screws to mount the diffuser aren't listed in that spreadsheet. Those are screws for the alu case only. I'll add them to the spreadsheet linked there in another sheet.
The screws for the diffuser are m2x10mm or m2x12mm with a round stepped brass nut at the bottom that recesses into the diffuser. This secures the diffuser to the PCB. You can space the PCB and diffuser with an o-ring. If you're sourcing this stuff yourself, some thicker o-rings do not work with 10mm long screws and you'll need a 11 or 12mm long screw. The ones that I have on hand are 3mm ID, 8mm OD, 2.5mm cross section and work with m2x12 very well. Screw sits flush with the bottom of the washer iirc.
I have extras of all hardware on hand. LMK if you need these and or bumpons as they are proprietary. Purchased extras of all this stuff in anticipation for future projects but I can send some for the cost of postage to anyone who needs them.
I don't check GH as often as I probably should. If you need anything, shoot me an email at mill@switchplate.co or PM my personal discord. reconsiderit#0001
But who messed it up with the screws?? It kills me that this thing isn't finished yet 99% - I've been to the hardware store (on our drive in total) and they don't have screws this side. Can you show me a picture of how the screws look like in your keyboard? Tbh I really don't see a point that you ship me screws from the US :D But I see a point in "they should have come with my order"...
@candykeys - Did you receive the screws for the acrylic diffuser from reconsiderit?
Hardware and bumpons for the bent plate (not the alu case) should have been delivered to them with the PCBs from KP. These were the first things that were delivered after I sorted out the alu cases and had them shipped back. As every single thing coming from KP had issues, I decided to keep the PCBs and forgo everything else. I and CK were refunded for what wasn't sent. Everything that wasn't sent was made with the factory resources that I had or easily obtainable from china resellers at the same price that we paid KP for them. (switches, cone feet, etc)
They still owed me the rubber bumpons for the alu cases since I paid for them and were a custom size and weren't delivered with all the stuff in the very beginning. I had those shipped to my hotel while I visited China in Sept '18 to look at the laser and CNC place. KP made 1k bumpons (MOQ from their supplier) and sent me 700. The rest went to CK.
A little bit down the road, the alu plates, bent steel plates, and diffusers were laser cut at my factory that does laser cutting and bending and delivered around Oct/Nov '18.
Since the original aluminum cases were not sent from KP due to QC issues, the hardware for those things had to be sourced individually. I sourced my own and CK should have sourced them on their end. I sent them a spreadsheet of hardware size well in advance. Due to a plethora of issues, these were delivered with southpaw fullsize towards the end of '19.
I was told that CK was just missing a few plates and a black alu case recently. If they're missing hardware and can't source, I can send hardware from them in bulk to dist to everyone in EU.
I think I can write a 10 page essay about this experience. I probably won't do 10 pages but will do some kind of write up once this comes to a close.
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Fri, 29 May 2020, 09:37:42
I got my EU Candykeys order a few days ago but I am also missing hardware (alu case).
I don't mind sourcing myself - I presume they're Metric machine screws of standard sizes if you're able to provide details? or as you say if you are sending to CK in bulk hardware could you add me to that list as well please? I don't have any of the screws needed to fix plate/PCB or the back feet/risers or any rubber bumpons etc
Super nice case though - excited to put it together. Did I read somewhere it needs a bit of hacking to fit in a ISO enter?
Cheers
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 29 May 2020, 11:06:54
Super nice case though - excited to put it together. Did I read somewhere it needs a bit of hacking to fit in a ISO enter?
Cheers
I had to file this area down on the plate to make room for the switch. It was not a big deal at all. Waiting for screws, aluminium- and rubber feet to put mine together also.
Edit: picture doesn't want to show up. http://imgur.com/a/GwT1g7h
Post by: speaktobrett on Sat, 30 May 2020, 02:56:27
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Oh I saw the location! You wanted a address change last minute so we sent a new FEDEX Number, I hope that is you.
Haha... yes that is me. But no, I originally sent you the address change in December, but you requested Fedex to send the package to the old address.
Anyway, it's all sorted and I appreciate that you updated the address though, thank you.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:05:53
Hi
I got my EU Candykeys order a few days ago but I am also missing hardware (alu case).
I don't mind sourcing myself - I presume they're Metric machine screws of standard sizes if you're able to provide details? or as you say if you are sending to CK in bulk hardware could you add me to that list as well please? I don't have any of the screws needed to fix plate/PCB or the back feet/risers or any rubber bumpons etc
Super nice case though - excited to put it together. Did I read somewhere it needs a bit of hacking to fit in a ISO enter?
Cheers
If you're sourcing on your own, the first sheet in the linked spreadsheet below.
If CK wants to do that, I'll email them and see how they want to go about it.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/5/d/1pzW35722LaaxbYut-EYNpxquPWcZq40x9o-8dkqCLGo/edit?usp=sharing
Post by: Krazzios on Sat, 30 May 2020, 15:45:33
CandyKeys, fix your ****. Stop making empty promises over email. You were made aware of the hardware in January, and people have been waiting for 2.5 years at this point.
Post by: ktrezzi on Sun, 31 May 2020, 06:36:48
This might be the stupidest situation I've ever been a part of. Sourcing screws and shipping them out should not take 4 months. Giving paying customers the runaround is not normal.
CandyKeys, fix your ****. Stop making empty promises over email. You were made aware of the hardware in January, and people have been waiting for 2.5 years at this point.
Yeah...Plus it seems a bit pointless, I don't know if I'm just lazy? But I don't want to think about a couple of possibilties of "if" and "or" and "either" and "would"
I want my 4 damn screws for my damn bent case to fix that damn acrylic layer...??
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:29:54
@candykeys any updates on my order #16482 ?
Sorry - The change from raw to black caused confusion, it is being sent ASAP, the assembly cost is being refunded, and white LEDs from the order are being packed in being 1.8mm to prevent GMK Keycap issues.
This might be the stupidest situation I've ever been a part of. Sourcing screws and shipping them out should not take 4 months. Giving paying customers the runaround is not normal.
CandyKeys, fix your ****. Stop making empty promises over email. You were made aware of the hardware in January, and people have been waiting for 2.5 years at this point.
Sorry there, it just takes that much time after a lack of organisation on this GB over the part of 2 years, it took its time for sure.
Hi
I got my EU Candykeys order a few days ago but I am also missing hardware (alu case).
I don't mind sourcing myself - I presume they're Metric machine screws of standard sizes if you're able to provide details? or as you say if you are sending to CK in bulk hardware could you add me to that list as well please? I don't have any of the screws needed to fix plate/PCB or the back feet/risers or any rubber bumpons etc
Super nice case though - excited to put it together. Did I read somewhere it needs a bit of hacking to fit in a ISO enter?
Cheers
If you're sourcing on your own, the first sheet in the linked spreadsheet below.
If CK wants to do that, I'll email them and see how they want to go about it.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/5/d/1pzW35722LaaxbYut-EYNpxquPWcZq40x9o-8dkqCLGo/edit?usp=sharing
What is the order number? All packages shipped after May or so have screws included, did you not get yours? We put them into a baggie with the bubble wrap OR they were mixed with the free comp. screw in stabs.
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:33:19
The screws to mount the diffuser aren't listed in that spreadsheet. Those are screws for the alu case only. I'll add them to the spreadsheet linked there in another sheet.If anyone from the EU end is missing things and are stilling looking for them, please send me an email and I'll do what I can to help. I've held on to all canceled orders and extras I have. Will let go of them once I see that everyone on the other side has gotten their orders taken care of.
I just need the screws to mount the difusor...Or at least some of you could tell me, what kind of screws I have to use.
The screws for the diffuser are m2x10mm or m2x12mm with a round stepped brass nut at the bottom that recesses into the diffuser. This secures the diffuser to the PCB. You can space the PCB and diffuser with an o-ring. If you're sourcing this stuff yourself, some thicker o-rings do not work with 10mm long screws and you'll need a 11 or 12mm long screw. The ones that I have on hand are 3mm ID, 8mm OD, 2.5mm cross section and work with m2x12 very well. Screw sits flush with the bottom of the washer iirc.
I have extras of all hardware on hand. LMK if you need these and or bumpons as they are proprietary. Purchased extras of all this stuff in anticipation for future projects but I can send some for the cost of postage to anyone who needs them.
I don't check GH as often as I probably should. If you need anything, shoot me an email at mill@switchplate.co or PM my personal discord. reconsiderit#0001
But who messed it up with the screws?? It kills me that this thing isn't finished yet 99% - I've been to the hardware store (on our drive in total) and they don't have screws this side. Can you show me a picture of how the screws look like in your keyboard? Tbh I really don't see a point that you ship me screws from the US :D But I see a point in "they should have come with my order"...
@candykeys - Did you receive the screws for the acrylic diffuser from reconsiderit?
We never received any screws from reconsiderit, we purely used the EXCEL file given to us, I apologise if there are missing screws, that would really screw us since we have resent a lot of new screws to customers already. That really screws the situation given this is true... Kind of just a summary really of this whole GB... Yikes
Can we get confirmation on this?
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 04 June 2020, 10:35:43
This might be the stupidest situation I've ever been a part of. Sourcing screws and shipping them out should not take 4 months. Giving paying customers the runaround is not normal.
CandyKeys, fix your ****. Stop making empty promises over email. You were made aware of the hardware in January, and people have been waiting for 2.5 years at this point.
Yeah sorry, holy **** really.. it looks like we were not made aware of all hardware at all, only came in the newest posting that there are acryl screws to be done. So a third round of packages for some customers, yay!
Post by: Alkahzane on Thu, 04 June 2020, 13:22:48
I bought both an alu and integrated case. What I got was an alu case and a bent case. Even after a conversation with Candy who said: "Alright, no worries. We will get a extra Int. Case then as it was already manufactured :)" Then again this information was said August 29, 2018.
I also decided to pick up two sets of genuine cherry stabilizers and at first I was like hmm, looks like I'm lacking a long boy stabilizer. So I counted them and realised that I got 7 pair of stabilizers, an odd number to have for 2 sets. Turns out I only got one kit sent. Even double and tripple checked to be sure. Probably going to check another time after posting this.
Regarding rubber feet? None to be found. Says: "Note that rubber feet for the keyboard will be included. They will most likely be the translucent thin material as opposed to the thicker crosshatched black material."
And I as well lack case screws for both my cases.
But to end on a good note. My Alu case does look very nice and that part of my order I am very pleased with.
Post by: CandyKeys on Thu, 04 June 2020, 19:17:43
So after a week getting the Swedish postal service to send me the package I unboxed it today.
I bought both an alu and integrated case. What I got was an alu case and a bent case. Even after a conversation with Candy who said: "Alright, no worries. We will get a extra Int. Case then as it was already manufactured :)" Then again this information was said August 29, 2018.
I also decided to pick up two sets of genuine cherry stabilizers and at first I was like hmm, looks like I'm lacking a long boy stabilizer. So I counted them and realised that I got 7 pair of stabilizers, an odd number to have for 2 sets. Turns out I only got one kit sent. Even double and tripple checked to be sure. Probably going to check another time after posting this.
Regarding rubber feet? None to be found. Says: "Note that rubber feet for the keyboard will be included. They will most likely be the translucent thin material as opposed to the thicker crosshatched black material."
And I as well lack case screws for both my cases.
But to end on a good note. My Alu case does look very nice and that part of my order I am very pleased with.
Hey!
Yeah in August 29 that is believe before the whole restructure of this to make it work... Originally we had ordered them, but we had to do bent plate. I am not sure anymore, this thing is a mess. Regarding the bent plates, as we have not sent the screws as we were unaware of them, we need to order those, will take time again from the screw place.
The sets are not Cherry stabs but Durock stabs btw to make sure. Rubber feet also did not happen - I assume this is for bumpons. I will ask for specs on those, its all really a mess.
I sent a e-mail to you to confirm what is missing, please double check on the case screws as we are 100% those are in, either really stuck with the bubble wrap or something, it is a separate translucent bag.
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 05 June 2020, 04:00:31
@candykeys you don't have to resend the screws...**** it. But a picture or a definitive answer would be nice.
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 05 June 2020, 05:30:27
Could anyone with a bent case just upload a picture how to solve the screw thing in an aesthatically pleasent way?
@candykeys you don't have to resend the screws...**** it. But a picture or a definitive answer would be nice.
I would like to solve this to the end... no matter what the cost, I mean this GB is so old that even inflation is playing a role in the final financial outcome of this.
Post by: weetjewel on Fri, 05 June 2020, 07:04:43
And just to make something clear, while I have been critical of CK and they probably hate my guts at this point I'm not gonna blame CK anymore. They're the only ones that are even doing something(looking at you Reconsiderit). I genuinely like my Southpaw now that I have it and that's all thanks to CK. I think they want this to be over as much as we do.
Post by: karankshah on Fri, 05 June 2020, 18:42:42
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 09 June 2020, 02:18:14
Could anyone with a bent case just upload a picture how to solve the screw thing in an aesthatically pleasent way?
@candykeys you don't have to resend the screws...**** it. But a picture or a definitive answer would be nice.
I would like to solve this to the end... no matter what the cost, I mean this GB is so old that even inflation is playing a role in the final financial outcome of this.
So you are going to resend them? What do you need? My order number is #16901 and you got the updated adress a while ago
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 09 June 2020, 23:19:43
As for those that want to source screws themselves, I'll grab some pics of my bent case in a moment.
Post by: bearwolfz on Wed, 10 June 2020, 01:18:01
In an attempt to fix this and make the EU folks happy, I'll put hardware packets together and send them in bulk to candykeys and they can distribute them from there. Will email them and get this sorted out asap.
As for those that want to source screws themselves, I'll grab some pics of my bent case in a moment.
I gotta hand it to you Reconsiderit, you have the patience of a saint with all of these issues! Still making solutions years afterwards, probably bleeding money just to make sure people get screws. I'm really impressed. My DHL package is moving now so hopefully i'll see my bent plate any day now. Then just to wait for the screws :D
Post by: grossvogel on Thu, 11 June 2020, 08:14:32
Post by: Nigolski on Thu, 11 June 2020, 15:59:19
Isn't it a little premature to claim that this GB is "100% shipped"? I got a new tracking number from CK on June 8, and according to the tracking page, the carrier is still waiting for them to drop off the package.
same :(
(https://i.imgur.com/XjRGZme.png)
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 12 June 2020, 05:57:16
If at least we could get an answer between a day or two instead of always letting us without an answer for weeks...this just sucks!
Do I have to source the screws myself now or not? If so, could you @reconsiderit or @candykeys provide a picture or an answer? Thank you
Post by: CandyKeys on Sun, 14 June 2020, 12:19:03
So newest updates, we took the second repaired excel file that reconsiderit sent to us 2 weeks ago or so, we have ordered all new screws again for Bent Plate people. If you are a Bent Plate person then your order has not shipped. We have 2 pending DHL orders to be shipped and then all that is left is intercontinental with EXPRESS.
If you want to source the screws yourself, please write us and we will send out whats here.
On many orders we sent out already everything and only found out about the screws later, we got the messages from you and know who you are.
PS - If you have a DHL label and have "building service" then it has not updated yet and I think one of you guys is in that boat.
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 16 June 2020, 05:10:13
Next dilemma, feet. How are people looking on those? We are trying to source the OG ones now.
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Thu, 18 June 2020, 06:45:52
@candykeys any updates on my order #16482 ?
Sorry - The change from raw to black caused confusion, it is being sent ASAP, the assembly cost is being refunded, and white LEDs from the order are being packed in being 1.8mm to prevent GMK Keycap issues.This might be the stupidest situation I've ever been a part of. Sourcing screws and shipping them out should not take 4 months. Giving paying customers the runaround is not normal.
CandyKeys, fix your ****. Stop making empty promises over email. You were made aware of the hardware in January, and people have been waiting for 2.5 years at this point.
Sorry there, it just takes that much time after a lack of organisation on this GB over the part of 2 years, it took its time for sure.
Hi
I got my EU Candykeys order a few days ago but I am also missing hardware (alu case).
I don't mind sourcing myself - I presume they're Metric machine screws of standard sizes if you're able to provide details? or as you say if you are sending to CK in bulk hardware could you add me to that list as well please? I don't have any of the screws needed to fix plate/PCB or the back feet/risers or any rubber bumpons etc
Super nice case though - excited to put it together. Did I read somewhere it needs a bit of hacking to fit in a ISO enter?
Cheers
If you're sourcing on your own, the first sheet in the linked spreadsheet below.
If CK wants to do that, I'll email them and see how they want to go about it.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/5/d/1pzW35722LaaxbYut-EYNpxquPWcZq40x9o-8dkqCLGo/edit?usp=sharing
What is the order number? All packages shipped after May or so have screws included, did you not get yours? We put them into a baggie with the bubble wrap OR they were mixed with the free comp. screw in stabs.
Order number 17189
I definitely triple checked the bubblewrap for screws etc but nothing in there. If you have screws/stabs/feet set aside on you or available that would be great but I don't mind sourcing myself if it's a pain in the arse.
Post by: CandyKeys on Tue, 23 June 2020, 04:21:16
@candykeys any updates on my order #16482 ?
Sorry - The change from raw to black caused confusion, it is being sent ASAP, the assembly cost is being refunded, and white LEDs from the order are being packed in being 1.8mm to prevent GMK Keycap issues.This might be the stupidest situation I've ever been a part of. Sourcing screws and shipping them out should not take 4 months. Giving paying customers the runaround is not normal.
CandyKeys, fix your ****. Stop making empty promises over email. You were made aware of the hardware in January, and people have been waiting for 2.5 years at this point.
Sorry there, it just takes that much time after a lack of organisation on this GB over the part of 2 years, it took its time for sure.
Hi
I got my EU Candykeys order a few days ago but I am also missing hardware (alu case).
I don't mind sourcing myself - I presume they're Metric machine screws of standard sizes if you're able to provide details? or as you say if you are sending to CK in bulk hardware could you add me to that list as well please? I don't have any of the screws needed to fix plate/PCB or the back feet/risers or any rubber bumpons etc
Super nice case though - excited to put it together. Did I read somewhere it needs a bit of hacking to fit in a ISO enter?
Cheers
If you're sourcing on your own, the first sheet in the linked spreadsheet below.
If CK wants to do that, I'll email them and see how they want to go about it.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/5/d/1pzW35722LaaxbYut-EYNpxquPWcZq40x9o-8dkqCLGo/edit?usp=sharing
What is the order number? All packages shipped after May or so have screws included, did you not get yours? We put them into a baggie with the bubble wrap OR they were mixed with the free comp. screw in stabs.
Order number 17189
I definitely triple checked the bubblewrap for screws etc but nothing in there. If you have screws/stabs/feet set aside on you or available that would be great but I don't mind sourcing myself if it's a pain in the arse.
Post by: bearwolfz on Tue, 23 June 2020, 07:49:52
Sending you an email directly candy keys!
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 29 June 2020, 02:45:47
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 29 June 2020, 18:08:28
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 29 June 2020, 18:08:54
We also doing a GB for the screws? :D :D :D
:p :D
Delivery date 2023 August
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 30 June 2020, 02:11:25
Well the good news is the screws are in. But the third thing on the list is just unconfirmed. What is missing now is feet. Screws seem to function well though on our behalf... It is the ones according to spec, but now it is just how to handle the mess in a logical way.
Which one from the the specs? There were several options as far as I remember? Could you provide a pic? reconsiderit wanted to upload one but I doubt this is ever going to happen.
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 06 July 2020, 02:55:13
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 09 July 2020, 02:48:50
Post by: CandyKeys on Fri, 10 July 2020, 03:10:53
So...will we ever get those screws?
So the screws are in but i am sorting the feet out now with the host, they will come from him as I understood it.
Post by: Xudonax on Sat, 11 July 2020, 14:02:47
Also, if at all possible I'd like SHIFT+Esc to be ~ instead of SHIFT+Fn+Esc being needed for that. How would I do this?
If there's a better place to ask this, please point me in the right direction!
Post by: ktrezzi on Thu, 16 July 2020, 06:57:41
Post by: karankshah on Sat, 18 July 2020, 15:56:50
Finally got my keyboard! However, I did a few changes to the layout (mostly a bunch of 1U keys on the bottom right) but I'm not sure how to program this. I looked at how to program post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.msg2625784#msg2625784). but I guess my question is more on how to do the second layer. I want most of the keys to just remain the same. How do I tell kai.tkg.io about the new layer, how do I tell it how to switch etc?
Also, if at all possible I'd like SHIFT+Esc to be ~ instead of SHIFT+Fn+Esc being needed for that. How would I do this?
If there's a better place to ask this, please point me in the right direction!
FWIW - Shift is a standard key - there's no way to adjust the functionality of what Shift does to certain keys, short of replacing it with a layer switch, and there's any of a number of use cases in software where that might cause problems for you (windows standard shortcut for task manager is Ctrl + Shift + Esc, for example, which would overlap with and cause problems here). You might be able to set it up with layer advanced actions, but it would almost certainly break some key functions for the base keys.
The easiest route that I found for managing the layers was to start with a base setup KLE, and then duplicating it for layers 2 and 3, making adjustments based on the custom maps I would want to set.
You can see my KLE layers:
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In KLE, you have to set the layer switch keys to generic function keys. You set up some of the function keys to switch layers in TKG.
I prepped TKG with the Kimera. You'll have to hit config and select XD85 to have setup work properly.
If you select "Normal" for layer mode, you will be able to choose exactly how many layers you want, up to the max of 3.
You'll paste the raw data (that you got from KLE) into TKG for each layer. A new Fn key section will come up in TKG once you do this, and you'll be able to assign a function to each key there (whether it's activating a different layer, turning on backlighting, etc).
In my build I used FN keys for all sorts of odds and ends
Post by: ktrezzi on Thu, 30 July 2020, 01:51:58
Why not close this thread? I mean it is 100% shipped
/s
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 30 July 2020, 23:29:13
Rubber bumpons and hardware are packed up. Will be organizing shipping to CK this coming week.
Post by: ktrezzi on Thu, 13 August 2020, 02:30:56
So...? I guess you guys do it like you did it the last two and half years and just ignore us?
Why not close this thread? I mean it is 100% shipped
/s
Yeah, that thread should be closed so at least I know that I won't have to come to look if anything has happened. "Screw" this, you get it? Because we won't receive any screws nor anything else
Post by: bearwolfz on Thu, 13 August 2020, 02:33:18
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 13 August 2020, 04:55:11
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 17 August 2020, 02:31:45
Did everyone at least get their boards?
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 17 August 2020, 09:39:17
Post by: CandyKeys on Mon, 17 August 2020, 09:45:49
Can you send me a email I can contact you via unless you sent your order number here before, I will assist you with pics when I make a quick build since we have the screws, just not the feet.
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 18 August 2020, 08:36:35
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 08 September 2020, 08:47:18
Post by: Krazzios on Tue, 08 September 2020, 09:25:42
Okay, **** this ****.
While I definitely think we deserve an update on the situation, calm down dude.
You've been on edge for most of the process, have some chill.
Post by: Nigolski on Wed, 09 September 2020, 14:46:07
No updates. No keyboards.
Tomorrow is another day.
Post by: bearwolfz on Thu, 10 September 2020, 02:59:56
Post by: ktrezzi on Thu, 10 September 2020, 06:29:43
You've been on edge for most of the process, have some chill.
This is simply not true. I've been on the edge for last couple of pages, yes. But at the beginning I was very chill, no I am not anymore because I hate it if (we) I get things promised (photos, screws, parts, feet, keebs) and no one delivers and I have to ask every 4 weeks just to get NO answer at all.
So yeah, still, duck this siht.
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 11 September 2020, 01:34:16
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 16 September 2020, 15:14:53
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 16 September 2020, 15:16:47
Post by: ktrezzi on Thu, 17 September 2020, 02:48:27
ktrezzi - Did you communicate with us? The anonymity of the internet is a strong feature but here I am confused as to whom is who and just going by location tags.
Yes! No problem, I'll write you another message to your mail
Post by: ktrezzi on Thu, 08 October 2020, 03:57:07
Post by: Krazzios on Sun, 22 November 2020, 08:49:36
Post by: bearwolfz on Sun, 22 November 2020, 10:05:19
Has anyone gotten their hardware yet?
Candykeys sent me a tracking code a month ago, but it still says deutsche post hasn't received the package. Contacted Candykeys and they said they did deliver it and deutsche post is wrong.
Exact same thing happened before with Candykeys so I don't know what the problem is. Gonna email again In a week or so
Post by: Bubblegum on Mon, 23 November 2020, 10:49:02
Has anyone gotten their hardware yet?
Candykeys sent me a tracking code a month ago, but it still says deutsche post hasn't received the package. Contacted Candykeys and they said they did deliver it and deutsche post is wrong.
Exact same thing happened before with Candykeys so I don't know what the problem is. Gonna email again In a week or so
I'm in the same position. Waiting for the last pieces. Got a tracking number from Deutsche Post that hasn't updated since oct 14th. But David from Candykeys said that it's been shipped and most likely wont update at all until it arrives at the door. Had other letter orders that took 6 weeks to arrive from mykeyboard eu also, so I am willing to believe it's on the postal service.
We're now past 3 years from GB order date. My first keyboard GB and the keyboard is still not fully usable :rolleyes:
Soon... ;)
Post by: Tobai on Tue, 29 December 2020, 07:46:49
When receiving my EU CK order, I got two sets (bent case + PCB) instead of just the one I ordered (just 1 diffusor though).
Are there enough extras available in case someone is still missing a set (got 1 instead of 2 or no keyboard at all), otherwise CK please get in touch with me to arrange shipping the spare set to someone.
Regards,
Paul
Post by: bearwolfz on Tue, 29 December 2020, 07:55:33
Has anyone gotten their hardware yet?
Candykeys sent me a tracking code a month ago, but it still says deutsche post hasn't received the package. Contacted Candykeys and they said they did deliver it and deutsche post is wrong.
Exact same thing happened before with Candykeys so I don't know what the problem is. Gonna email again In a week or so
I'm in the same position. Waiting for the last pieces. Got a tracking number from Deutsche Post that hasn't updated since oct 14th. But David from Candykeys said that it's been shipped and most likely wont update at all until it arrives at the door. Had other letter orders that took 6 weeks to arrive from mykeyboard eu also, so I am willing to believe it's on the postal service.
We're now past 3 years from GB order date. My first keyboard GB and the keyboard is still not fully usable :rolleyes:
Soon... ;)
Did you get your screws? Mine still hasn't shown up.
Post by: Alkahzane on Mon, 04 January 2021, 05:28:23
Post by: MC_kb on Tue, 05 January 2021, 04:45:17
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 06 January 2021, 22:25:04
Post by: Krazzios on Mon, 08 February 2021, 17:43:07
Let me send a follow up to CK. Not sure whats going on now. They should have everything. I'm waiting on my PCBs from them so I can put extras up.
Did you get a reply? Still waiting on my screws, seriously considering just sourcing them myself at this point. Just holding out out of principle.
Post by: MC_kb on Thu, 25 February 2021, 07:52:26
Post by: Pestilence204 on Thu, 25 February 2021, 13:35:42
Post by: bearwolfz on Thu, 25 February 2021, 13:44:07
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 26 February 2021, 03:19:41
Keyboard is fine, be communication sucked hard, have to admit that.
Post by: Nigolski on Sat, 03 April 2021, 12:16:54
@candykeys any updates on my order #16482 ?
Sorry - The change from raw to black caused confusion, it is being sent ASAP, the assembly cost is being refunded, and white LEDs from the order are being packed in being 1.8mm to prevent GMK Keycap issues.
still waiting for my southpaw :rolleyes: