Author Topic: TX-series keyboards (Read 327684 times)

thatsmrdoctortoyou · « **Reply #600 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 10:00:34 »

Quote from: menuhin on Mon, 09 January 2017, 09:39:22

3. How does the typing experience of Plate-to-case mount design (e.g. in TX-75) compare to the more usual PCB-to-case mount design?
I'm not talking about the switch mounting but whether the major stable connection to the case is to the plate itself or to the PCB.

The plate mounts to the case whereas the PCB is only mounted to the switches via your soldering. In other words, there are no direct connection points between the PCB and the case, only plate to case.

kin25 · « **Reply #601 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 10:00:50 »

Quote from: menuhin on Mon, 09 January 2017, 09:39:22

Hi Kin, Hi YukTsi and all the TX users,

I've been lurking this design for a while, as I've been thinking about a 75% end-game board, and this board ranks real high for me.

I have a few questions about the TX boards:

1. Does the PCB currently support Alps switches?

2. What is the pin hole sizes for the PCB of TX-75, are they at 1.5mm similar to Leeku TXPad? I'm looking at the hotswap-compatibility of the PCB to some holtite receptacles.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5amslt/guidehotswap_compatibility_table/dc45z0n/

3. How does the typing experience of Plate-to-case mount design (e.g. in TX-75) compare to the more usual PCB-to-case mount design?
I'm not talking about the switch mounting but whether the major stable connection to the case is to the plate itself or to the PCB. I am also aware of that, unlike the usual PCB-to-case mount design, there is no extra standoffs to support the PCB in the middle of the bottom half part of the case.

2. Tx75 and pad pcb hole size are same.

3. Tx87/84, tx75, txcp and txpad are same design.
Many people said.. Very solid and hard.. Less ecco..

Saiph · « **Reply #602 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 10:53:29 »

I can definitely attest to the less echo part. I owned a redscarf before and I really hated the sound. I haven't had any issue with my tx75

wodan · « **Reply #603 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 12:16:11 »

The RedScarf kits I build came with third party Cherry PCB stabilizers which are super rattely. Alway use genuine Cherry stabilizers and not the noisy third parts ones ...

Saiph · « **Reply #604 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 12:34:03 »

I did make sure to use genuine cherry stabs. It may have had something to do with it being a plate less build. His was the full alu 65%

sundin · « **Reply #605 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 13:26:06 »

Little typing test of the TX-75 with ergo clear and Thin PBT
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1rU9aVG0An2

Tally810 · « **Reply #606 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:32:56 »

I asked a couple weeks ago about extras and you had them but Christmas destroyed my wallet. Now that it's healthy again I filled out the form and am praying you have some b stock or something I can buy

bciamny · « **Reply #607 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:42:52 »

Quote from: Tally810 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:32:56

I asked a couple weeks ago about extras and you had them but Christmas destroyed my wallet. Now that it's healthy again I filled out the form and am praying you have some b stock or something I can buy

should get at him via telegram at kin25. he's super responsive and you'll get a chance to learn exactly what he has in stock.

jal · « **Reply #608 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:43:36 »

The once-spurned green-eyed monster schlumphed to my humble abode today. Currently snuffling around suspiciously, hiding in its box and avoiding humans, but I intend to give it a warm, comforting home with some nice switches to chew on very soon.

Thanks again, Kin! Can't wait to build this.

smittysteve · « **Reply #609 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 20:28:52 »

Quote from: jal on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:43:36

The once-spurned green-eyed monster schlumphed to my humble abode today. Currently snuffling around suspiciously, hiding in its box and avoiding humans, but I intend to give it a warm, comforting home with some nice switches to chew on very soon.

(Attachment Link)

Thanks again, Kin! Can't wait to build this.

Gorgeous, jal! Once he's tamed and clacking appropriately, please share.

Tally810 · « **Reply #610 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 20:35:53 »

Quote from: bciamny on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:42:52

Quote from: Tally810 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:32:56
I asked a couple weeks ago about extras and you had them but Christmas destroyed my wallet. Now that it's healthy again I filled out the form and am praying you have some b stock or something I can buy

should get at him via telegram at kin25. he's super responsive and you'll get a chance to learn exactly what he has in stock.

Not sure what telegram is but I'm damn sure gonna try! Thanks for the info

smittysteve · « **Reply #611 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 21:24:18 »

Quote from: Tally810 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 20:35:53

Quote from: bciamny on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:42:52
Quote from: Tally810 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:32:56
I asked a couple weeks ago about extras and you had them but Christmas destroyed my wallet. Now that it's healthy again I filled out the form and am praying you have some b stock or something I can buy

should get at him via telegram at kin25. he's super responsive and you'll get a chance to learn exactly what he has in stock.
Not sure what telegram is but I'm damn sure gonna try! Thanks for the info

Can find it at app store (Apple for sure, assume android too). Download and search for Kin25. 30 minutes later your board is waiting for loving boxing. Pics all the way. It's phenomenal.

Tally810 · « **Reply #612 on:** Mon, 09 January 2017, 21:33:43 »

Quote from: smittysteve on Mon, 09 January 2017, 21:24:18

Quote from: Tally810 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 20:35:53
Quote from: bciamny on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:42:52
Quote from: Tally810 on Mon, 09 January 2017, 19:32:56
I asked a couple weeks ago about extras and you had them but Christmas destroyed my wallet. Now that it's healthy again I filled out the form and am praying you have some b stock or something I can buy

should get at him via telegram at kin25. he's super responsive and you'll get a chance to learn exactly what he has in stock.
Not sure what telegram is but I'm damn sure gonna try! Thanks for the info

Can find it at app store (Apple for sure, assume android too). Download and search for Kin25. 30 minutes later your board is waiting for loving boxing. Pics all the way. It's phenomenal.

Oh yea I got a hold of him. Super nice guy. Thank you guys for the info this made my night and I just got a new set of caps today that are going on it!

kin25 · « **Reply #613 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 09:22:31 »

Quote from: sundin on Mon, 09 January 2017, 13:26:06

Little typing test of the TX-75 with ergo clear and Thin PBT
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1rU9aVG0An2

Is it brass plate?
I heard a little soft sound.
BTW..
You are a Typing eXpert.

sundin · « **Reply #614 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 10:37:33 »

Yep brass plate, thanks again for this keyboard

Tally810 · « **Reply #615 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 11:54:26 »

Damn you guys were not lieing. After our agreement kin not only had pictures of the board for me but he also had pictures of him packing the thing up nicely in a box. Then he had the shipping label and a tracking number to me 2 hours before I paid him lol. Makes a mfer feel appreciated. Thanks Kin!

Slash Emperor · « **Reply #616 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 12:26:42 »

Quote from: Tally810 on Tue, 10 January 2017, 11:54:26

Damn you guys were not lieing. After our agreement kin not only had pictures of the board for me but he also had pictures of him packing the thing up nicely in a box. Then he had the shipping label and a tracking number to me 2 hours before I paid him lol. Makes a mfer feel appreciated. Thanks Kin!

His customer service, quality of work, packaging, and speed is insane. He is a maker that I can get behind.

LDobler · « **Reply #617 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 13:02:55 »

Hello, what layouts are supported by the TX87?

Tally810 · « **Reply #618 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 13:22:23 »

Quote from: Slash Emperor on Tue, 10 January 2017, 12:26:42

Quote from: Tally810 on Tue, 10 January 2017, 11:54:26
Damn you guys were not lieing. After our agreement kin not only had pictures of the board for me but he also had pictures of him packing the thing up nicely in a box. Then he had the shipping label and a tracking number to me 2 hours before I paid him lol. Makes a mfer feel appreciated. Thanks Kin!

His customer service, quality of work, packaging, and speed is insane. He is a maker that I can get behind.

Yea it was pretty refreshing. Now just have to wait on the mail...

Slash Emperor · « **Reply #619 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 13:23:58 »

Quote from: Tally810 on Tue, 10 January 2017, 13:22:23

Quote from: Slash Emperor on Tue, 10 January 2017, 12:26:42
Quote from: Tally810 on Tue, 10 January 2017, 11:54:26
Damn you guys were not lieing. After our agreement kin not only had pictures of the board for me but he also had pictures of him packing the thing up nicely in a box. Then he had the shipping label and a tracking number to me 2 hours before I paid him lol. Makes a mfer feel appreciated. Thanks Kin!

His customer service, quality of work, packaging, and speed is insane. He is a maker that I can get behind.
Yea it was pretty refreshing. Now just have to wait on the mail...

It goes real fast. I ordered while I was on vacation and it beat me home.

2 or 3 days to reach MA.

neon_tom · « **Reply #620 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 14:11:10 »

Quote from: Tally810 on Tue, 10 January 2017, 13:22:23

Quote from: Slash Emperor on Tue, 10 January 2017, 12:26:42
Quote from: Tally810 on Tue, 10 January 2017, 11:54:26
Damn you guys were not lieing. After our agreement kin not only had pictures of the board for me but he also had pictures of him packing the thing up nicely in a box. Then he had the shipping label and a tracking number to me 2 hours before I paid him lol. Makes a mfer feel appreciated. Thanks Kin!

His customer service, quality of work, packaging, and speed is insane. He is a maker that I can get behind.
Yea it was pretty refreshing. Now just have to wait on the mail...

Yeah you definitely won't be waiting long. EMS is insanely efficient.

Tally810 · « **Reply #621 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 14:50:11 »

Quote from: neon_tom on Tue, 10 January 2017, 14:11:10

Quote from: Tally810 on Tue, 10 January 2017, 13:22:23
Quote from: Slash Emperor on Tue, 10 January 2017, 12:26:42
Quote from: Tally810 on Tue, 10 January 2017, 11:54:26
Damn you guys were not lieing. After our agreement kin not only had pictures of the board for me but he also had pictures of him packing the thing up nicely in a box. Then he had the shipping label and a tracking number to me 2 hours before I paid him lol. Makes a mfer feel appreciated. Thanks Kin!

His customer service, quality of work, packaging, and speed is insane. He is a maker that I can get behind.
Yea it was pretty refreshing. Now just have to wait on the mail...

Yeah you definitely won't be waiting long. EMS is insanely efficient.

Well that's good news. Just hope the switches beat it here and I'll be good to go.

kin25 · « **Reply #622 on:** Wed, 11 January 2017, 22:04:47 »

Leeku L3 pcb Jigon manual

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885

thatsmrdoctortoyou · « **Reply #623 on:** Thu, 12 January 2017, 01:32:40 »

Quote from: kin25 on Wed, 11 January 2017, 22:04:47

Leeku L3 pcb Jigon manual

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.msg2236885#msg2236885

Excellent, thank you!

fatbuffalo · « **Reply #624 on:** Thu, 12 January 2017, 08:31:51 »

People been telling me that top-mounted plate is master race?
But the feeling on the tx is good. Could someone please explain to me?
The distribution of the mounting screws?

kin25 · « **Reply #625 on:** Thu, 12 January 2017, 13:44:36 »

Quote from: fatbuffalo on Thu, 12 January 2017, 08:31:51

People been telling me that top-mounted plate is master race?
But the feeling on the tx is good. Could someone please explain to me?
The distribution of the mounting screws?

Top mount kbds give good feeling of typing.
Because most of them have angled bottom.
It makes weight heavy.
Tx kbds are heavy.
The most important thing is weight.

A few years ago..
I bought one custom kbd in the korean community
The seller made it by himself.
He used 3T ss top, 1.5T plate, acrylic middle and 3T ss bottom.
I was shocked.
I experienced the hardest kbd like stone.
It broke my common sense of kbd.
After that time..
I realized what was important.

menuhin · « **Reply #626 on:** Thu, 12 January 2017, 14:17:32 »

Sorry, a beginner question:

What is plate top-mounting?

Does it mean that the case has top and bottom parts and the plate is mounted to the top like the TX?
The TX actually also sandwiched the plate between the top and botto half.

Saiph · « **Reply #627 on:** Thu, 12 January 2017, 14:19:40 »

Quote from: menuhin on Thu, 12 January 2017, 14:17:32

Sorry, a beginner question:

What is plate top-mounting?

Does it mean that the case has top and bottom parts and the plate is mounted to the top like the TX?
The TX actually also sandwiched the plate between the top and botto half.

They basically mean that the plate and pcb are mounted through the plate, rather than through the pcb. If you've seen tray mount 60% cases, those are all connected to the case by screws through the pcb rather than through the plate. TX on the other hand is mounted by screws through the plate.

menuhin · « **Reply #628 on:** Thu, 12 January 2017, 14:32:16 »

Then top-mount means plate-to-case mounting.
So many jargons, digging in deeper, still find there are more to learn.
Thanks!

renzpwns · « **Reply #629 on:** Sat, 14 January 2017, 03:40:15 »

Hey guys I need some help. I finally soldered in my switches with sip sockets and when I plug it in to test it, my computer says "USB device not recognized." None of the keys registers. Any clue on how to fix this? Complete noob here when it comes to this just fyi.

kin25 · « **Reply #630 on:** Sat, 14 January 2017, 04:07:05 »

Quote from: renzpwns on Sat, 14 January 2017, 03:40:15

Hey guys I need some help. I finally soldered in my switches with sip sockets and when I plug it in to test it, my computer says "USB device not recognized." None of the keys registers. Any clue on how to fix this? Complete noob here when it comes to this just fyi.

With Pushing esc, connect the cable..
Update the new firmware..
If i will do.. It will be fixed..
If not.. You had better contact to me via telegram.

renzpwns · « **Reply #631 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 02:38:42 »

Quote from: kin25 on Sat, 14 January 2017, 04:07:05

With Pushing esc, connect the cable..
Update the new firmware..
If i will do.. It will be fixed..
If not.. You had better contact to me via telegram.

Still didn't work unfortunately. Btw, is there a guide somewhere that easy to follow when it comes to firmware stuff and how to flash with them? Like I said, complete noob here when it comes to this.

Mr_BeastQuake · « **Reply #632 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 03:27:54 »

Little late to the party here. First of all, the brass plate is amazing. The plate is great not only in looks and sound but everything snapped into place no problem and the build was really easy. I've got GMK Hyperfuse on there now but SA Hyperfuse is looming to take its place. Kin was great in this transaction.

oatmicro · « **Reply #633 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 03:50:52 »

Hey Mr.Kin

Any chance for TX84/87 Cyan for international orders?

seem like all of them were only for korean groub buy.

that's sad u know.

kin25 · « **Reply #634 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 06:40:46 »

Quote from: oatmicro on Mon, 16 January 2017, 03:50:52

Hey Mr.Kin

Any chance for TX84/87 Cyan for international orders?

seem like all of them were only for korean groub buy.

that's sad u know.

Tx84cyan were sold out.
There are a lot tx87cyan.
But most of them are b-stock(blemish)

wodan · « **Reply #635 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 06:49:13 »

Buy more TX Keyboards ... get them while they last:

joey · « **Reply #636 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 06:58:38 »

Quote from: wodan on Mon, 16 January 2017, 06:49:13

Buy more TX Keyboards ... get them while they last:
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More pics wodan!

wodan · « **Reply #637 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 07:08:00 »

Quote from: joey on Mon, 16 January 2017, 06:58:38

More pics wodan!

Gladly

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kawasaki161 · « **Reply #638 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 10:50:51 »

Quote from: renzpwns on Mon, 16 January 2017, 02:38:42

Quote from: kin25 on Sat, 14 January 2017, 04:07:05

With Pushing esc, connect the cable..
Update the new firmware..
If i will do.. It will be fixed..
If not.. You had better contact to me via telegram.
Still didn't work unfortunately. Btw, is there a guide somewhere that easy to follow when it comes to firmware stuff and how to flash with them? Like I said, complete noob here when it comes to this.

Almost everything (except the key to push to get into flash mode, and some minor stuff) is explained here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v24vygvyl4mvqrm/AABUNcm0BDioYE5QbArje0Kba?dl=0&preview=Leeku+L3+Software.pdf

To flash the new firmware you download the latest one, extract it, connect the keyboard while pressing Esc and then run the .bat file. Also try a different USB port and USB cable, I've had wonky stuff happen with half broken cables once.

kin25 · « **Reply #639 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 11:03:58 »

Connect only one L3 pcb kbd for uploading firmware or using jigon.
Don't connect more than two kbds for changing somthing.

smittysteve · « **Reply #640 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 12:26:25 »

Quote from: wodan on Mon, 16 January 2017, 07:08:00

Quote from: joey on Mon, 16 January 2017, 06:58:38
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Great pics, Wodan, thanks for sharing! Love the switch modding station. Out of curiosity, where did you get the stickers - Techkeys?

wodan · « **Reply #641 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 12:29:12 »

LOL the best source for switch modding films is ...

kin25

I am very happy with them!

smittysteve · « **Reply #642 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 12:43:08 »

Well, son of a gun. What can't that guy do...?? Thanks for the info.

menuhin · « **Reply #643 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 12:55:15 »

Quote from: wodan on Mon, 16 January 2017, 12:29:12

LOL the best source for switch modding films is ...

kin25

I am very happy with them!

Nice build!
Switch stickers/films: does it make a difference in any aspect of the switch?

Does it feel kind of springy in the middle of the alpha keys, e.g. T, Y, G, H ?
Top-mount seems to be what Korean keyboard designers go for these days. Some other members described top-mount as some nice springiness in the keystroke compared to the tray-mount supported by standoffs in the middle.

oatmicro · « **Reply #644 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 13:06:44 »

Quote from: kin25 on Mon, 16 January 2017, 06:40:46

Quote from: oatmicro on Mon, 16 January 2017, 03:50:52

Tx84cyan were sold out.
There are a lot tx87cyan.
But most of them are b-stock(blemish)

Glad to know that!

As you said "Most of them", Please let me know if you still have TX87Cyan with perfect condition, I would like to take it.

kin25 · « **Reply #645 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 13:22:05 »

Quote from: smittysteve on Mon, 16 January 2017, 12:43:08

Well, son of a gun. What can't that guy do...?? Thanks for the info.

As I know...
Only I made switch gap films.
Because It is hard to find factory.

kin25 · « **Reply #646 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 13:23:17 »

Quote from: oatmicro on Mon, 16 January 2017, 13:06:44

Quote from: kin25 on Mon, 16 January 2017, 06:40:46
Quote from: oatmicro on Mon, 16 January 2017, 03:50:52

Tx84cyan were sold out.
There are a lot tx87cyan.
But most of them are b-stock(blemish)

Glad to know that!

As you said "Most of them", Please let me know if you still have TX87Cyan with perfect condition, I would like to take it.

Ok.. I will find perfect tx87cyan.
If I find.. I will let you know

oatmicro · « **Reply #647 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 13:44:50 »

Quote from: kin25 on Mon, 16 January 2017, 13:23:17

Quote from: oatmicro on Mon, 16 January 2017, 13:06:44
Quote from: kin25 on Mon, 16 January 2017, 06:40:46
Quote from: oatmicro on Mon, 16 January 2017, 03:50:52

Tx84cyan were sold out.
There are a lot tx87cyan.
But most of them are b-stock(blemish)

Glad to know that!

As you said "Most of them", Please let me know if you still have TX87Cyan with perfect condition, I would like to take it.

Ok.. I will find perfect tx87cyan.
If I find.. I will let you know

Thank you, I'm waiting here

kin25 · « **Reply #648 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 13:44:53 »

Quote from: menuhin on Mon, 16 January 2017, 12:55:15

Nice build!
Switch stickers/films: does it make a difference in any aspect of the switch?

Does it feel kind of springy in the middle of the alpha keys, e.g. T, Y, G, H ?
Top-mount seems to be what Korean keyboard designers go for these days. Some other members described top-mount as some nice springiness in the keystroke compared to the tray-mount supported by standoffs in the middle.

I made the gap film to save time.
It takes 1/5 shorter than stickers.
And it makes low-pitched tone when switches pop up.

It is not compulsory part.
Many GHers ignore sounds.

In korea.. We call top, plate, bottom to 3 piece housing.
Plate and tray to 2 piece housing.

Linear user like 3 piece housing.
(I am a linear user.. So I like 3 piece housing and make it)

Tactile user and non plate user like 2 piece housing.

3 piece housing is more expensive.

Use many kinds of kbds, and you will find suitable to yourself.
If you can't find.. Try to make kbd for yourself.

Jeu · « **Reply #649 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 15:38:28 »

Is it an option to get these films CONUS or only really worth the shipping hassle with a TX order?


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