Author Topic: [IC] GMK Electronics (Cherry OEM) Colored Esc's, Modifier Sets, CMYK, Number Row (Read 108743 times)

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #400 on:** Mon, 17 December 2012, 15:27:19 »

They could pad print, but they said it would increase the cost significantly. I swore I saw a Cherry board once that had an 'Fn' legend, but maybe it was only in a dream lol. I guess we could have substitute 'Layer', but I think blank is good as it is much more versatile obviously.

Acetrak · « **Reply #401 on:** Mon, 17 December 2012, 15:27:55 »

Oops, NEVERMIND

Acetrak · « **Reply #402 on:** Mon, 17 December 2012, 15:36:00 »

Original Cherry winkey and menu keys for doubleshot sets were all pad printed. Hence why they did not have legends for them.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #403 on:** Mon, 17 December 2012, 15:50:30 »

Cherry/GMK pad print is really good though. Sure it's not as good as doubleshot but it's the option for more complex legend, dual legend with other color, etc.

The_Beast · « **Reply #404 on:** Mon, 17 December 2012, 15:52:39 »

The only reason I don't like the pad printing is because it feels different from all the other keys

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #405 on:** Mon, 17 December 2012, 15:58:58 »

It feel exactly like other Cherry abs key to me. Cherry has not any riased painting like some others do. Also so many people seem to mistake pad print Cherry for dyesub they can't be too bad.

jeroplane · « **Reply #406 on:** Mon, 17 December 2012, 16:26:15 »

Cherry pad-print is fantastic. And considering the number of times you'd touch the Winkey/Fn as opposed to the alphas, it will hardly be enough to wear it down as it is very durable. I mean look at the old boards people have found - the pad printing is still intact after so many years (on my 11900, the pad-printing is almost as white as the doubleshots).

But that's besides the point since we are not going to go that route anyway

Quote from: DanGWanG on Mon, 17 December 2012, 09:46:11

GMK responded, phew. Looks like they agreed to our MOQs =) (400 for Esc pack, 300 for everything else)

GB thread will go up in the next couple days. Might need some help with mockups if anyone has some time....

On the point about MOQ, really great to hear that they are agreeable to lower numbers. 300 sounds very achievable across all the forums

And people will no doubt be buying multiple Esc packs, so 400 for that should be easy.

I can help with mock-ups if needed. It would be a lot easier if I had hash's templates to work with, though

aggiejy · « **Reply #407 on:** Mon, 17 December 2012, 19:15:54 »

Quote from: Acetrak on Mon, 17 December 2012, 15:03:12

I gotchu Dan

Since windows and menu keys were always pad printed, is it possible to get those legends pad printed instead of blanks with the mod pack?

Anything but a Windows logo!

gbohn · « **Reply #408 on:** Mon, 17 December 2012, 21:06:05 »

> (on my 11900, the pad-printing is almost as white as the doubleshots).

Attached is an image of some of the keys from a Cherry G81-7000H and (I think) a G80-8113H (white on black)..

In real-life, the Flag and Menu look slightly blue-gray (to me) compared to the Double-shot text (Ctrl/Control/Alt/M, etc.).

I've always been a bit sad that I didn't have a DS version of the Menu/Windows keys

(Not that the pad printed ones are hideous or anything...)

GMC · « **Reply #409 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 12:36:07 »

Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:19:33

If GMK will not do smaller quantities then they are the bad guy, not an American company wanting to sell American keyboards.

FTFY

Soarer · « **Reply #410 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 14:42:55 »

Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 17 December 2012, 14:19:33

Quote from: fuus on Fri, 14 December 2012, 03:27:59
EK, if you release any of those sets you WILL be crushing the opertunity for multi legend sets...
Please tell Lysol / Dan your plans, I'm sure they can both keep a secret and can steer this whole project in the right direction.
I don't fully understand what you are suggesting here. I think you are suggesting that if I want to buy a keyboard set from elitekeyboards, or some other keyboard oriented site then I have to get extra keys for Swedish, German, and other languages included. I think a better alternative would be for smaller group buys for just those specific keys that other languages need to enhance other sets. If GMK will not do smaller quantities then they are the bad guy, not an American company wanting to sell English keyboards. It is a nice gesture to try and support more languages but at what point do you stop holding back the majority for the benefit of the minority?

I don't think that's what's being suggested there at all.

And I don't think it's only a problem for multi-legend sets.

Here's the worst case scenario. An interest check starts and gets a good response. A sneaky vendor takes a risk and orders just the core, tenkeyless, set directly. They come up for sale before the group buy even starts collecting money. Sure, it costs more than in the group buy, because of profit margin, but maybe not much more if the GB includes numpad keys (I'm not even considering languages for now). Some people jump ship - they get what they want and it arrives within a couple of days. GB fails to meet the MOQ. Game over.

I'm not saying any particular vendor would do that, but it's a possibility.

demik · « **Reply #411 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 15:49:48 »

somebody explain something to me that i dont think i'm getting.

people are complaining about EK not having language packs and just picking up regular ansi base sets right?

how many people are in need of those language packs? who else is going to pick up the tab to reach the MOQ? or are they going to be added to a base set that most people won't use and don't want to pay for.

Alessandro · « **Reply #412 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 15:54:19 »

I'm an english guy who loves US ANSI.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #413 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 16:06:46 »

I don't know, sounds like complaining to complain to me. I wouldn't expect US vendor to offer other options. Just as I wouldn't expect to find Japanese sets in Germany.
Usual putting the cart before the horse. Relax, and offer constructive ideas for the full set groupbuy in the spring. Hopefully by then we can have all the details ironed out on how it will work and what will be offered so it will go smoothly.
However once again I will kindly ask to take all converstaion not pertaining to this buy into the more general GMK keycap thread.
Thanks.

DanGWanG · « **Reply #414 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 16:59:32 »

WTB Mockup help, templates, etc. Lysol and I are still really crunched for time and need a little assistance for developing mockups for the sets in the OP. Most of the text for the GB is ready to go, just need some visual pull =) Any help is appreciated and can be compensated for their time.

danielucf · « **Reply #415 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 17:27:35 »

Quote from: DanGWanG on Tue, 18 December 2012, 16:59:32

WTB Mockup help, templates, etc. Lysol and I are still really crunched for time and need a little assistance for developing mockups for the sets in the OP. Most of the text for the GB is ready to go, just need some visual pull =) Any help is appreciated and can be compensated for their time.

Turn on the bat signal

Batmann makes awesome mock ups.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #416 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 18:04:50 »

I can help if you need. Maybe I can modify one of batmann's mockups...

No Photoshop, only Gimp.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #417 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 18:34:09 »

Quote from: DanGWanG on Tue, 18 December 2012, 16:59:32

WTB Mockup help, templates, etc. Lysol and I are still really crunched for time and need a little assistance for developing mockups for the sets in the OP. Most of the text for the GB is ready to go, just need some visual pull =) Any help is appreciated and can be compensated for their time.

I can help. Are you looking for anything prettier than this:

This was harder:

This took a bit of effort:

Modified version of an image from lysol's collection

- Ron | samwisekoi

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #418 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 19:29:24 »

Basically we need extension of what hasbaz made here also showing the 1x and 1.5, ISO enter, etc... something similar for CMYK, and all 3 of the Esc key colorways.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help us out on this.

litster · « **Reply #419 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 19:36:34 »

samwisekoi's mockups look a lot better. They look real.

jeroplane · « **Reply #420 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 20:02:19 »

If you guys are strapped for time, all I need is a source file for the Cherry font and I can make some mockups tonight

Do you guys also want mockups to show exactly what keys will be included in each pack (i.e. without the full keyboard)?

Sai · « **Reply #421 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 20:05:22 »

Quote from: samwisekoi on Tue, 18 December 2012, 18:34:09

Quote from: DanGWanG on Tue, 18 December 2012, 16:59:32
WTB Mockup help, templates, etc. Lysol and I are still really crunched for time and need a little assistance for developing mockups for the sets in the OP. Most of the text for the GB is ready to go, just need some visual pull =) Any help is appreciated and can be compensated for their time.

I can help. Are you looking for anything prettier than this:

This was harder:

(Attachment Link)

This took a bit of effort:

(Attachment Link)
Modified version of an image from lysol's collection

- Ron | samwisekoi

Those 2 are really nice.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #422 on:** Tue, 18 December 2012, 21:24:03 »

Quote from: lysol on Tue, 18 December 2012, 19:29:24

Basically we need extension of what hasbaz made here also showing the 1x and 1.5, ISO enter, etc... something similar for CMYK, and all 3 of the Esc key colorways.
Show Image

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help us out on this.

E-mail me that SVG and the colors and variations you want and I'll mock them up.

- Ron | samwisekoi

p.s. Thanks litster and hoshidishi!

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #423 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 11:02:29 »

If I had such a file I would have knocked it out quick myself.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #424 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 12:17:36 »

Quote from: lysol on Wed, 19 December 2012, 11:02:29

If I had such a file I would have knocked it out quick myself.

Ah. Ok, can do anyhow.

I'll pop up some samples later today.

- Ron | samwisekoi

Oproer · « **Reply #425 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:34:01 »

http://imgur.com/a/Ow7e7

Is this any use to you?

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #426 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 13:58:41 »

If you could do someting like that which showed all the keys that would be absolutely perfect.

Batmann · « **Reply #427 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:33:29 »

here is the template I did for the mock-ups
I tried to make it easy to use
Seeing what Sam and Matteo already did I'm not worried (although you can PM if need be)
I plan to do a wiki but I didn't have the chance yet =[

samwisekoi · « **Reply #428 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 15:21:45 »

Quote from: Batmann on Wed, 19 December 2012, 14:33:29

here is the template I did for the mock-ups
I tried to make it easy to use
Seeing what Sam and Matteo already did I'm not worried (although you can PM if need be)
I plan to do a wiki but I didn't have the chance yet =[

Thanks. I can use that in Inkscape, but it has different symbols than hashbaz used. Does that matter?

- Ron

danielucf · « **Reply #429 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:43:00 »

Quote from: jeroplane on Tue, 18 December 2012, 20:02:19

...all I need is a source file for the Cherry font and I can make some mockups tonight

I wish that existed. Then anyone could make mock ups themselves for the most part. That Cherry font is guarded like Fort Knox.

jeroplane · « **Reply #430 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:23:37 »

Quote from: danielucf on Wed, 19 December 2012, 17:43:00

Quote from: jeroplane on Tue, 18 December 2012, 20:02:19
...all I need is a source file for the Cherry font and I can make some mockups tonight
I wish that existed. Then anyone could make mock ups themselves for the most part. That Cherry font is guarded like Fort Knox.

Hash's mockups seem to be pretty damn close! Most likely due to his work with the replica font project.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #431 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:31:20 »

I keep meaning to post up my Cherry legend for all to have, but I need somewhere more reasonable to have it hosted than my gdrive. Preferably multiple mirror somewheres.

hashbaz · « **Reply #432 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:51:47 »

The original reason for keeping the source SVGs from the replica project under lock and key was to avoid people exploiting them for profit. Since the community is paying for the legends, the idea was to make them available through SP for group buys, but to guard the source files carefully to avoid knock-offs.

With GMK now producing new authentic Cherry 2-shots, perhaps this policy can be loosened. But as of now, it stands.

I want to be clear that I don't distrust lysol or danielucf or samwise, but the fewer people that have access to the files, the smaller the chance that they will leak and become generally available.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #433 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 19:02:05 »

Quote from: hashbaz on Wed, 19 December 2012, 18:51:47

The original reason for keeping the source SVGs from the replica project under lock and key was to avoid people exploiting them for profit. Since the community is paying for the legends, the idea was to make them available through SP for group buys, but to guard the source files carefully to avoid knock-offs.

With GMK now producing new authentic Cherry 2-shots, perhaps this policy can be loosened. But as of now, it stands.

I want to be clear that I don't distrust lysol or danielucf or samwise, but the fewer people that have access to the files, the smaller the chance that they will leak and become generally available.

Good call. Spooks say that the risk of a leak increases to the power of the people who know a secret.

I'll use a generic font for mockups.

- Ron | samwisekoi

SmallFry · « **Reply #434 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 21:12:54 »

It'd be cool if we could get them in a TTF, but that's off topic...carry on.

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #435 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 21:56:36 »

I on the other hand don't really give a flying f*ck what people may do with my legend files... have at them.

DanGWanG · « **Reply #436 on:** Wed, 19 December 2012, 22:05:17 »

Quote from: lysol on Wed, 19 December 2012, 21:56:36

I on the other hand don't really give a flying f*ck what people may do with my legend files... have at them.

Ho ho ho! Merry Christmas!

phetto · « **Reply #437 on:** Thu, 20 December 2012, 04:52:30 »

So what happened here? Which set is final?
Updates plz..

emptythecache · « **Reply #438 on:** Thu, 20 December 2012, 08:01:16 »

I kind of stopped paying attention to this thread, so this was probably mentioned, but we should do a full Black on yellow (think YBP) set.

jeroplane · « **Reply #439 on:** Thu, 20 December 2012, 09:34:10 »

Quote from: phetto on Thu, 20 December 2012, 04:52:30

So what happened here? Which set is final?
Updates plz..

I don't think anything has changed to these results, except that the Number Pack won't be happening and there were doubts about the CMYK:

Quote from: DanGWanG on Fri, 07 December 2012, 01:31:51

Current Polling Results

Totals as of 12/12/12 (whoaaaaa):
Modifier Pack: White/Purple (39), White/Blue (38), White/Green (35), White/Brown (26)
Number Pack: White/Blue (39), White/Purple (39), White/Green (35), White/Red (33)
Esc Pack: Red/White (87), White/Purple (67), White/Green (58), White/Blue (56)

Interests:
Modifier Pack 161/186 87%
Number Pack 109/186 57%
Esc Pack 162/186 87%
CMYK 124/186 67%

GMC · « **Reply #440 on:** Thu, 20 December 2012, 10:14:21 »

Think I posted this on DT but happy to take a couple of cmyk to help keep them in

phetto · « **Reply #441 on:** Thu, 20 December 2012, 10:38:05 »

I was hoping that this would be a plain set with some awesome legend color. Example grey keycaps with purple legends xD

DanGWanG · « **Reply #442 on:** Mon, 24 December 2012, 12:41:03 »

Just a quick status update. We provided the mockups to GMK and they are currently reviewing it. If all goes well, GB thread should go up soon, hopefully.

baldgye · « **Reply #443 on:** Mon, 24 December 2012, 13:48:17 »

awesome news

KuhnTang · « **Reply #444 on:** Mon, 24 December 2012, 13:59:51 »

count me in if it does

Oproer · « **Reply #445 on:** Wed, 02 January 2013, 12:21:54 »

Is this dying out or did I already miss the GB?

Acetrak · « **Reply #446 on:** Wed, 02 January 2013, 12:29:04 »

I believe we are currently waiting on pricing. The GB has not open yet. Hold on to your hats

IvanIvanovich · « **Reply #447 on:** Wed, 02 January 2013, 13:05:42 »

GMK probably closed for the holidays or something, we were waiting on a final pricing and confirmation.

fuus · « **Reply #448 on:** Thu, 03 January 2013, 18:32:56 »

GMK, go back to work you slackers

reverkiller · « **Reply #449 on:** Fri, 04 January 2013, 18:57:18 »

I'm hopeful about this! But I'm not sure how long it will take them to get there

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Author Topic: [IC] GMK Electronics (Cherry OEM) Colored Esc's, Modifier Sets, CMYK, Number Row (Read 108743 times)