[IC] "Team Spirit" - PBT Dye-Sub DSA GeekHack keycaps! (PimpMyKeyboard.com)

[base_on_base]

Interest check for "Team Spirit" PBT dye-sublimated key caps going on at PimpMyKeyboard:
http://www.pimpmykeyboard.com/deals/team-spirit-pbt-dye-sub-dsa/



Also includes /r/MK key caps, if that's your thing...

[SpAmRaY]

So did you ask anyone if you could have geek hack keys made? I thought the geek hack legend was one you have to ask to use?

[base_on_base]

So did you ask anyone if you could have geek hack keys made? I thought the geek hack legend was one you have to ask to use?

"Geek Hack" isn't trademarked and the font is Arial Round.

[SpAmRaY]

So did you ask anyone if you could have geek hack keys made? I thought the geek hack legend was one you have to ask to use?

"Geek Hack" isn't trademarked and the font is Arial Round.

Well I'm sure the community here paid for the actual mold to make 'geek hack' key caps at SP, so out of common courtesy you should at least attempt to PM an admin to let them know you intend to run a group buy that will use it.

[Sent]

"Geek Hack" isn't trademarked

Kind of missing the point here. :/

[FrostyToast]

So did you ask anyone if you could have geek hack keys made? I thought the geek hack legend was one you have to ask to use?

This is true.
Also, you didn't even start an IC.
I hate it when people start PMK buys like this.

[GSimon]

Well I'm sure the community here paid for the actual mold to make 'geek hack' key caps at SP, so out of common courtesy you should at least attempt to PM an admin to let them know you intend to run a group buy that will use it.

If it's Dye-Sub there wouldn't be a mold though....right? Not saying there wasn't a mold created for the DoubleShot DCS.

[base_on_base]

So did you ask anyone if you could have geek hack keys made? I thought the geek hack legend was one you have to ask to use?

"Geek Hack" isn't trademarked and the font is Arial Round.

Well I'm sure the community here paid for the actual mold to make 'geek hack' key caps at SP, so out of common courtesy you should at least attempt to PM an admin to let them know you intend to run a group buy that will use it.

Well, out of courtesy I will inform an admin. Also, these are dye-sublimated so no special molds needed to be produced.

[SpAmRaY]

Well I'm sure the community here paid for the actual mold to make 'geek hack' key caps at SP, so out of common courtesy you should at least attempt to PM an admin to let them know you intend to run a group buy that will use it.

If it's Dye-Sub there wouldn't be a mold though....right? Not saying there wasn't a mold created for the DoubleShot DCS.

I suppose I was thinking double shot. But the point still stands.

[hashbaz]

There's no mold so yeah you can do what you want, but it's bad form IMO to put this up without checking in with the admins, like ray said.  Back in the day we were pretty choosy about GEEK HACK keys, though I feel like it's not as big a deal as it used to be.

"Geek Hack" isn't trademarked and the font is Arial Round.

And yeah, this is not the right attitude.

[sethk_]

What is the point of the Miami one if it is in DSA? Miami is in DCS.

[Matt3o]

if the OP asked first he/she would have very likely got the official font for the geekhack key together with all the best wishes from the administrators. At this point... I don't know

[baldgye]

What is the point of the Miami one if it is in DSA? Miami is in DCS.

Tbf both rounds of Miami sets came/come with GH keys, in both colour ways

[rioc]

I suppose I was thinking double shot. But the point still stands.

well, there is no point left though technically... there's nothing you can do to intervene legally... it's all in the rights!

GL & HF

PS: yes I'm being a ****, thank you internet for making it possible!
PPS: also, I'm sick & tired of the pissing contest some select vag-face users are having with single other users over at other communities for nothing! (except maybe utter stupidity and no life-satisfaction at all as it appears). It's poison for the industry (nobody cares about who's the more elitist community. The gros of the people ****s all over you, or doesn't even know that you exist! (this concerns r/mk, GH, DT, etc... (me included))) so stop being so ****ing delusional. You do realise the logic that "together" is stronger than "against each other"... but everytime something touches you slightly you go ape-**** mental!  Seriously, what's up with that?

(And don't ****ing ask for examples, the web is full of them (also my own experiences I had directly), or I'll go mental for once and cripple you... Just want to know why? What went wrong? Did mommy not breast feed you long enough or at all?)

And now, after I've got that out of my system, back to reasonable: I had some really bad experiences with div. orderings etc., only because I was a more acitve user on another community than over here. And I'm reckoning worse for customers who haven't even got an account here or at any MKB community! And this is definitely not how an open and free market should work!
It was a late call, but I finally got a slightly satisfying answer to my problem. BUT, if I'd had no response even for one more day, I would of persued legal actions against said (atm. anonymous) seller! And I would of taken down his whole business with it!!
And all this only because some select users have unresolved childish issues with other users from other communities! WHAT A SHAME!

[jdcarpe]

I suppose I was thinking double shot. But the point still stands.

well, there is no point left though technically... there's nothing you can do to intervene legally... it's all in the rights!

GL & HF

PS: yes I'm being a ****, thank you internet for making it possible!
PPS: also, I'm sick & tired of the pissing contest some select vag-face users are having with single other users over at other communities for nothing! (except maybe utter stupidity and no life-satisfaction at all as it appears). It's poison for the industry (nobody cares about who's the more elitist community. The gros of the people ****s all over you, or doesn't even know that you exist! (this concerns r/mk, GH, DT, etc... (me included))) so stop being so ****ing delusional. You do realise the logic that "together" is stronger than "against each other"... but everytime something touches you slightly you go ape-**** mental!  Seriously, what's up with that?

(And don't ****ing ask for examples, the web is full of them (also my own experiences I had directly), or I'll go mental for once and cripple you... Just want to know why? What went wrong? Did mommy not breast feed you long enough or at all?)

And now, after I've got that out of my system, back to reasonable: I had some really bad experiences with div. orderings etc., only because I was a more acitve user on another community than over here. And I'm reckoning worse for customers who haven't even got an account here or at any MKB community! And this is definitely not how an open and free market should work!
It was a late call, but I finally got a slightly satisfying answer to my problem. BUT, if I'd had no response even for one more day, I would of persued legal actions against said (atm. anonymous) seller! And I would of taken down his whole business with it!!
And all this only because some select users have unresolved childish issues with other users from other communities! WHAT A SHAME!

Whoa, calm yourself. You're getting all worked up again. )

[baldgye]

>creates 'team spirit' set interest thread
>goes ape**** when some of the 'team' raise questions
>insert demik quote

[rioc]

Whoa, calm yourself. You're getting all worked up again. )

well, this is cause this kind of childish nonsense just gets me worked up...

I'm starting to get so pissed about this, I might try to start some kind of harmonization between the two (GH & /r/mk)... (I guess ripster would have to dial down his "sarcastic" joking/taunting or whatever. Cause even if it might not be meant totally serious, I bet between him and whoever else over here, who had beef with each other, still don't take it on the funny side.) And then stuff like the "PBT Team Spirit" caps wouldn't exactly be as polarizing as they are now. (I bet the user had some kind of harmonization in mind with that IC too, but it got rallied wrong by other users on both sides, and then it's exactly contra productive to what it was supposed to be)...
I bet there are loads of users on both sides, that would profit from each other. (if this may be know-how, tradings, discussions, etc...)

Me for example, I'm also not as aware of GH as I could be. I check through the forums every now and then, but I prefer the straight-forward approach of any reddit "forum" since these "old school" forums are way to interlaced for my taste, and that's why I mostly just check through the subreddit, cause all the information is found much faster without having to use search functions... I keep on finding out stuff on here I didn't know about way later than I could have, only because it was hidden in some sub category... (I'm not suggesting anything has to change structurally on either side, but collaboration could help both extremely well, instead of this back and forth with who is best, who isn't, who stole what, etc...

[drewba]

edit: assumed too much

[SpAmRaY]

I'm also not as aware of GH as I could be. I check through the forums every now and then, but I prefer the straight-forward approach of any reddit "forum" since these "old school" forums are way to interlaced for my taste

Feel free to stay on reddit, we don't mind, take your friends to.

[ideus]

I'm also not as aware of GH as I could be. I check through the forums every now and then, but I prefer the straight-forward approach of any reddit "forum" since these "old school" forums are way to interlaced for my taste

Feel free to stay on reddit, we don't mind, take your friends to.

A "team spirit" strong example. LOL.

[SpAmRaY]

I'm also not as aware of GH as I could be. I check through the forums every now and then, but I prefer the straight-forward approach of any reddit "forum" since these "old school" forums are way to interlaced for my taste

Feel free to stay on reddit, we don't mind, take your friends to.

A "team spirit" strong example. LOL.

Yes it goes quite well with this



so this thread is literally a troll by reddit

but they make sure to ask one of their own permission to use his cap



And how did asking if OP asked permission to use 'geek hack' warrant these responses?



 

Oh one more

Whoa, calm yourself. You're getting all worked up again. )

well, this is cause this kind of childish nonsense just gets me worked up...

I'm starting to get so pissed about this, I might try to start some kind of harmonization between the two (GH & /r/mk)...

Your definition of harmonization must be very unique.
 

[ideus]

I have never been at r/mk, but it seems they are mostly teens with high hormonal imbalances, so you cannot blame them for their behavior, hormones are always too strong to fight against them successfully. 

[jdcarpe]

Let me just say this. I know there is some crossover, but for the most part, the two communities are entirely separate. There is nothing wrong with that. Many people are introduced to the hobby through r/MK and find their way here. There is nothing wrong with that either. But to think we work as a "team" is misguided. There is such vitriol from their "leader" toward this community, that such can never be. When people have come here from r/MK and have participated in this community, as beginners on this forum, they have been accepted. When their hearts remain with the other site, they usually migrate back over there. When they dive in here, they usually leave that place behind, since information is presented in a more permanent way, here. Either choice is fine. But it's probably difficult to maintain a presence on both, due to the one-sided animosity coming from r/MK (mostly from their "leader") toward us here.

The times when there have been problems have arisen from when one member attemps to maintain a presence on both sites, and "talks out of both sides of their mouth," that is, criticizing/ridiculing one site while on the other, and vice versa.

[drewba]

The times when there have been problems have arisen from when one member attemps to maintain a presence on both sites, and "talks out of both sides of their mouth," that is, criticizing/ridiculing one site while on the other, and vice versa.

I think if you're a reasonable human being you can be on both. I see A LOT of GH users on /r/mk. For the past two months I've done a 50/50 split and use each community in different ways. I do not agree that moderator = leader. He does have some loud fanboys but I don't feel like the average /r/mk user thinks ripster is any leader (in my super duper humble opinion). Reddit momentarily turns in to a cesspool anytime CC/k3kc is mentioned or when ripster starts one of his bait posts. But if it's otherwise ignored, /r/mk isn't a bad place.

For what it's worth, I think you can ignore specific users if you install Reddit Enhancement Suite, I just need to figure out how to do it...

[Lain1911]

Is it weird that I thought this said "Teen Spirit" and was expect someone with Nirvana?

[jdcarpe]

I think if you're a reasonable human being you can be on both. I see A LOT of GH users on /r/mk. For the past two months I've done a 50/50 split and use each community in different ways. I do not agree that moderator = leader. He does have some loud fanboys but I don't feel like the average /r/mk user thinks ripster is any leader (in my super duper humble opinion). Reddit momentarily turns in to a cesspool anytime CC/k3kc is mentioned or when ripster starts one of his bait posts. But if it's otherwise ignored, /r/mk isn't a bad place.

I'm sure you're right. But I think the problem lies with the r/MK "hive mind" simply following the us vs. them, "Geekhack is evil" mantra. Why would the users here want to visit a place where they aren't welcome? That's why I called him the "leader." However, I realize the VAST majority of people who frequent r/MK aren't like rip at all.

FWIW, rip was banned from DT, too, yet I don't see daily posts from him about how they are the devil.

[Data]

I despise Reddit (in general -- worst layout of any message board ever conceived) so GH and Deskthority are all I know of mechanical keyboard communities.

That said, many (most?) long term GeekHackers are overly protective of the "brand"... to the point of kneejerk overreactions, some of which can be seen right here.  It's incredibly off-putting and unwelcoming to new members who just want to celebrate the community through keycaps, not have to report to self-appointed brand police.  It's ridiculous.

I'm sure base_on_base is really sorry that he didn't run it by you first.   

[drewba]

I think if you're a reasonable human being you can be on both. I see A LOT of GH users on /r/mk. For the past two months I've done a 50/50 split and use each community in different ways. I do not agree that moderator = leader. He does have some loud fanboys but I don't feel like the average /r/mk user thinks ripster is any leader (in my super duper humble opinion). Reddit momentarily turns in to a cesspool anytime CC/k3kc is mentioned or when ripster starts one of his bait posts. But if it's otherwise ignored, /r/mk isn't a bad place.

I'm sure you're right. But I think the problem lies with the r/MK "hive mind" simply following the us vs. them, "Geekhack is evil" mantra. Why would the users here want to visit a place where they aren't welcome? That's why I called him the "leader." However, I realize the VAST majority of people who frequent r/MK aren't like rip at all.

FWIW, rip was banned from DT, too, yet I don't see daily posts from him about how they are the devil.

I wondered about his lack of disdain for DT...maybe he hasn't come up with a disparaging name for them yet.

[jdcarpe]

That said, many (most?) long term GeekHackers are overly protective of the "brand"... to the point of kneejerk overreactions, some of which can be seen right here.  It's incredibly off-putting and unwelcoming to new members who just want to celebrate the community through keycaps, not have to report to self-appointed brand police.  It's ridiculous.

Brand awareness is very important, especially when you've done a lot to try and enhance or improve your brand. So I don't think it's ridiculous to be protective of it. New offerings produced with the brand name or logo should at the very least seek consensus from the brand owners - in this case the membership or administration - before proceeding. It's what we used to call common courtesy.

[Data]

That said, many (most?) long term GeekHackers are overly protective of the "brand"... to the point of kneejerk overreactions, some of which can be seen right here.  It's incredibly off-putting and unwelcoming to new members who just want to celebrate the community through keycaps, not have to report to self-appointed brand police.  It's ridiculous.

Brand awareness is very important, especially when you've done a lot to try and enhance or improve your brand. So I don't think it's ridiculous to be protective of it. New offerings produced with the brand name or logo should at the very least seek consensus from the brand owners - in this case the membership or administration - before proceeding. It's what we used to call common courtesy.

If I'm doing something that I feel is in some way helpful/beneficial to the community (at large, not just the web site where it gathers), should I really have to ask permission?

Come on...

You're taking the concept of brand awareness outside of any reasonable context.

[jdcarpe]

If I'm doing something that I feel is in some way helpful/beneficial to the community (at large, not just the web site where it gathers), should I really have to ask permission?

Absolutely. Carpe Keyboards isn't a business, it's my personal brand that I use for my keyboard creations. If someone wanted to produce something with my name or logo on it, because they thought it benefited me or my brand in some way, while I would be flattered for sure, I would definitely expect them to seek my permission first! Otherwise, it would feel as if I had been "ripped off," so to speak, by them using it without my knowledge.

All the more so if someone expects the very owners of the brand to support the product, as in a group buy.

You may think that is extreme for me to expect of someone, while I think it perfectly reasonable.

[byker]

I think it makes perfect sense JD. If you want to use something that isn't yours, you should ask. Regardless of the intention, even if it is positive I think anyone would want to know when "their" creative design is being used.

[Data]

If I'm doing something that I feel is in some way helpful/beneficial to the community (at large, not just the web site where it gathers), should I really have to ask permission?

Absolutely. Carpe Keyboards isn't a business, it's my personal brand that I use for my keyboard creations. If someone wanted to produce something with my name or logo on it, because they thought it benefited me or my brand in some way, while I would be flattered for sure, I would definitely expect them to seek my permission first! Otherwise, it would feel as if I had been "ripped off," so to speak, by them using it without my knowledge.

All the more so if someone expects the very owners of the brand to support the product, as in a group buy.

You may think that is extreme for me to expect of someone, while I think it perfectly reasonable.

See, this is what I'm talking about though.  You're applying brand awareness principles (which I agree with, by the way) to an entity with no brand and (arguably) no stake -- or, at best, a shared community stake.  GeekHack.org doesn't make or sell a product.  Geek Hack is not Coke, or Disney, or Nike.  From what I can tell, there's not even an LLC behind the web site (which was surprising).  Therefore, there can be no loss of brand equity.

If I'm doing something cool like making caps for the community, with or without permission (from whom?), how could that possibly harm the community brand?  IT DOES NOT FOLLOW.

[jdcarpe]

I'm pretty sure the Geekhack brand is owned by Geekhackers, LLC

[Data]

I'm pretty sure the Geekhack brand is owned by Geekhackers, LLC

I'm not finding anything under "geek hack" or "geekhack" at the USPTO.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's totally polite and cool to ask first.  But likewise, it's really poor form to freak out and turn into the brand police over a Geek Hack key that maybe didn't get the fullest community blessing first.  It's not like they're rare or even particularly special.  I understand the community interest, especially in light of our "feud" with Reddit, but it gets a bit absurd at times.  There was no reason to jump all over this guy.

[SpAmRaY]

I'm pretty sure the Geekhack brand is owned by Geekhackers, LLC

I'm not finding anything under "geek hack" or "geekhack" at the USPTO.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's totally polite and cool to ask first.  But likewise, it's really poor form to freak out and turn into the brand police over a Geek Hack key that maybe didn't get the fullest community blessing first.  It's not like they're rare or even particularly special.  I understand the community interest, especially in light of our "feud" with Reddit, but it gets a bit absurd at times.  There was no reason to jump all over this guy.

See you don't look at a geek hack key the same way I do. To me they are special and there are some rare ones, ask halverson.

Like I said on reddit why would a community who doesn't like this place even want to have geek hack caps made? Let geek hack worry about making geek hack caps and r/mk can make r/mk caps.

And again do I need to remind everyone the only reason this thread was posted here was because ripster encouraged it to be? Clearly for the purpose of trolling?

[FrostyToast]

I'm pretty sure the Geekhack brand is owned by Geekhackers, LLC

I'm not finding anything under "geek hack" or "geekhack" at the USPTO.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's totally polite and cool to ask first.  But likewise, it's really poor form to freak out and turn into the brand police over a Geek Hack key that maybe didn't get the fullest community blessing first.  It's not like they're rare or even particularly special.  I understand the community interest, especially in light of our "feud" with Reddit, but it gets a bit absurd at times.  There was no reason to jump all over this guy.

See you don't look at a geek hack key the same way I do. To me they are special and there are some rare ones, ask halverson.

Like I said on reddit why would a community who doesn't like this place even want to have geek hack caps made? Let geek hack worry about making geek hack caps and r/mk can make r/mk caps.

And again do I need to remind everyone the only reason this thread was posted here was because ripster encouraged it to be? Clearly for the purpose of trolling?

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Yeah, after this I definitely won't consider joining this GB at all.
Not even if he gets approval.

[Data]

I'm pretty sure the Geekhack brand is owned by Geekhackers, LLC

I'm not finding anything under "geek hack" or "geekhack" at the USPTO.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's totally polite and cool to ask first.  But likewise, it's really poor form to freak out and turn into the brand police over a Geek Hack key that maybe didn't get the fullest community blessing first.  It's not like they're rare or even particularly special.  I understand the community interest, especially in light of our "feud" with Reddit, but it gets a bit absurd at times.  There was no reason to jump all over this guy.

See you don't look at a geek hack key the same way I do. To me they are special and there are some rare ones, ask halverson.

Like I said on reddit why would a community who doesn't like this place even want to have geek hack caps made? Let geek hack worry about making geek hack caps and r/mk can make r/mk caps.

And again do I need to remind everyone the only reason this thread was posted here was because ripster encouraged it to be? Clearly for the purpose of trolling?

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And this response is exactly what ripster wanted.

You've taken the bait.  If the response had been, "Cool man.  Nice key set." instead, then the troll would have failed completely.  But that didn't happen.  Much kneejerking happened instead.

Poor form.

[ideus]

Enough teen spirit for the team spirit.

[base_on_base]

I'm also not as aware of GH as I could be. I check through the forums every now and then, but I prefer the straight-forward approach of any reddit "forum" since these "old school" forums are way to interlaced for my taste

Feel free to stay on reddit, we don't mind, take your friends to.

A "team spirit" strong example. LOL.

Yes it goes quite well with this

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so this thread is literally a troll by reddit

but they make sure to ask one of their own permission to use his cap

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And how did asking if OP asked permission to use 'geek hack' warrant these responses?

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Oh one more

Whoa, calm yourself. You're getting all worked up again. )

well, this is cause this kind of childish nonsense just gets me worked up...

I'm starting to get so pissed about this, I might try to start some kind of harmonization between the two (GH & /r/mk)...

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Your definition of harmonization must be very unique.

Do you REALLY think that I spent hours starting an interest check on PimpMyKeyboard just to mess with you?

[base_on_base]

I'm pretty sure the Geekhack brand is owned by Geekhackers, LLC

I'm not finding anything under "geek hack" or "geekhack" at the USPTO.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's totally polite and cool to ask first.  But likewise, it's really poor form to freak out and turn into the brand police over a Geek Hack key that maybe didn't get the fullest community blessing first.  It's not like they're rare or even particularly special.  I understand the community interest, especially in light of our "feud" with Reddit, but it gets a bit absurd at times.  There was no reason to jump all over this guy.

See you don't look at a geek hack key the same way I do. To me they are special and there are some rare ones, ask halverson.

Like I said on reddit why would a community who doesn't like this place even want to have geek hack caps made? Let geek hack worry about making geek hack caps and r/mk can make r/mk caps.

And again do I need to remind everyone the only reason this thread was posted here was because ripster encouraged it to be? Clearly for the purpose of trolling?

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"Let geek hack worry about making geek hack caps and r/mk can make r/mk caps." I'm a member of BOTH communities. I know your baseless /r/MK hating makes it hard for you to understand that but some of us don't blindly hate thousands of people because of which website they enjoy going on.

Also, no Ripster did not tell me to post this. I made the interest check, posted it to /r/MK AND GeekHack, then Ripster, in the comments of my /r/MK post, said that I should post it here, I replied with the link to my GeekHack post, then you go ape**** thinking that it's all a big conspiracy to make you look silly. If you don't want to buy it, don't, I literally couldn't care. But whether or not you're convinced that Ripster and everyone on /r/MK is "out to get ya", I'll still be apart of the GeekHack community, which is kinda what these key caps are all about.

[Oobly]

I'm pretty sure the Geekhack brand is owned by Geekhackers, LLC

I'm not finding anything under "geek hack" or "geekhack" at the USPTO.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's totally polite and cool to ask first.  But likewise, it's really poor form to freak out and turn into the brand police over a Geek Hack key that maybe didn't get the fullest community blessing first.  It's not like they're rare or even particularly special.  I understand the community interest, especially in light of our "feud" with Reddit, but it gets a bit absurd at times.  There was no reason to jump all over this guy.

See you don't look at a geek hack key the same way I do. To me they are special and there are some rare ones, ask halverson.

Like I said on reddit why would a community who doesn't like this place even want to have geek hack caps made? Let geek hack worry about making geek hack caps and r/mk can make r/mk caps.

And again do I need to remind everyone the only reason this thread was posted here was because ripster encouraged it to be? Clearly for the purpose of trolling?

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"Let geek hack worry about making geek hack caps and r/mk can make r/mk caps." I'm a member of BOTH communities. I know your baseless /r/MK hating makes it hard for you to understand that but some of us don't blindly hate thousands of people because of which website they enjoy going on.

Also, no Ripster did not tell me to post this. I made the interest check, posted it to /r/MK AND GeekHack, then Ripster, in the comments of my /r/MK post, said that I should post it here, I replied with the link to my GeekHack post, then you go ape**** thinking that it's all a big conspiracy to make you look silly. If you don't want to buy it, don't, I literally couldn't care. But whether or not you're convinced that Ripster and everyone on /r/MK is "out to get ya", I'll still be apart of the GeekHack community, which is kinda what these key caps are all about.

Cool, just ask first next time. It's not too much to ask someone to have common courtesy.

And just so it's clear, informing after the fact is not the same as asking beforehand.

IMHO, the thread was going fine, no overheated egos, people just politely pointing out that the OP made a judgement error and discussing the legalities of identity ownership and then rioc's post slammed in like a ton of teen rage.

I recommend you put the GB on hold, ask permission and proceed from there. As Matt3o says, if you'd done this in the first place you'd probably have been given the official font to use. You may still be. Whereas if you just push this through out of contrariness, don't expect common courtesy in return for not giving any yourself.

[Krogenar]

You've taken the bait.  If the response had been, "Cool man.  Nice key set." instead, then the troll would have failed completely.  But that didn't happen.  Much kneejerking happened instead.

Poor form.

I have to agree. This looks like a troll attempt. It was poor form on their part, to troll at all. Common decency would dictate that you at least ask permission before using the 'Geekhack' key. And it doesn't matter if GH has trademarked the name, etc. with the patent office -- there are still common law protections just for publishing and operating as Geekhack. Publishing your control of the trademark gives you more protections, it doesn't remove them.

Thanks Reddit, for the most Orwellian-named keyset to date.

[rioc]

Your definition of harmonization must be very unique.

It sure is... yes...
took you some time to find out.

also, I admit, half of my posts were trolls, cause I ****ing love how people can wind themselves up over bull**** like this... the other half is pissed off over people who get pissed off over bull**** like this and then I wind myself up... (it's a fight within myself, yes, I see that too)... but hey... it's the friggin net... what do you expect?

[nubbinator]

But seriously, it started out completely polite with what's a normal question here, did you ask permission.  Whenever something with Cherry legends pops up, that gets asked.  Whenever certain keys paid for by OTD appear in buys, that gets asked.  Whenever someone wants to do something like this, that question always gets asked.

With the GH keys, I know they generally get run by a member with any and all profit getting donated to GH.  It's just polite to ask first before doing something like that.

[neverused]

Your definition of harmonization must be very unique.

It sure is... yes...
took you some time to find out.

also, I admit, half of my posts were trolls, cause I ****ing love how people can wind themselves up over bull**** like this... the other half is pissed off over people who get pissed off over bull**** like this and then I wind myself up... (it's a fight within myself, yes, I see that too)... but hey... it's the friggin net... what do you expect?

The location of an expressed thought should not be an excuse for rudeness or poor taste. You seem quite experienced in both respects and stirring the pot in your particular manner is childish and ignorant at best, though I would evaluate it as more pathetic and attention starved than anything.

[00zeRO]

tl:dr

another reason I never go on reddit...they can have their unrestricted, angry, self-loathing, neverloving, overindulging, overreaching selves a great time.

It appears that r/mk may one day threaten the good name of our established business, Mechanical Keyboards, Inc. May it never be so...do you hear me foul-spirited redditors...

Retraction: I didn't mean to generalize, and for that I am sorry. There are foul-spirited redditors, but they comprise but a small percentage of those who submit reddits on r/MK. One of which is nothing more than a tattler, and I am sure many here knows who he is and why he is banned from GeekHack. I should have never even typed a single syllable. For that, please accept my apology: I am sorry.

[base_on_base]

I'm pretty sure the Geekhack brand is owned by Geekhackers, LLC

I'm not finding anything under "geek hack" or "geekhack" at the USPTO.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's totally polite and cool to ask first.  But likewise, it's really poor form to freak out and turn into the brand police over a Geek Hack key that maybe didn't get the fullest community blessing first.  It's not like they're rare or even particularly special.  I understand the community interest, especially in light of our "feud" with Reddit, but it gets a bit absurd at times.  There was no reason to jump all over this guy.

See you don't look at a geek hack key the same way I do. To me they are special and there are some rare ones, ask halverson.

Like I said on reddit why would a community who doesn't like this place even want to have geek hack caps made? Let geek hack worry about making geek hack caps and r/mk can make r/mk caps.

And again do I need to remind everyone the only reason this thread was posted here was because ripster encouraged it to be? Clearly for the purpose of trolling?

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"Let geek hack worry about making geek hack caps and r/mk can make r/mk caps." I'm a member of BOTH communities. I know your baseless /r/MK hating makes it hard for you to understand that but some of us don't blindly hate thousands of people because of which website they enjoy going on.

Also, no Ripster did not tell me to post this. I made the interest check, posted it to /r/MK AND GeekHack, then Ripster, in the comments of my /r/MK post, said that I should post it here, I replied with the link to my GeekHack post, then you go ape**** thinking that it's all a big conspiracy to make you look silly. If you don't want to buy it, don't, I literally couldn't care. But whether or not you're convinced that Ripster and everyone on /r/MK is "out to get ya", I'll still be apart of the GeekHack community, which is kinda what these key caps are all about.

Cool, just ask first next time. It's not too much to ask someone to have common courtesy.

And just so it's clear, informing after the fact is not the same as asking beforehand.

IMHO, the thread was going fine, no overheated egos, people just politely pointing out that the OP made a judgement error and discussing the legalities of identity ownership and then rioc's post slammed in like a ton of teen rage.

I recommend you put the GB on hold, ask permission and proceed from there. As Matt3o says, if you'd done this in the first place you'd probably have been given the official font to use. You may still be. Whereas if you just push this through out of contrariness, don't expect common courtesy in return for not giving any yourself.

Look, I genuinely apologize. I wasn't aware that Geek Hack was so exclusive over who was 'allowed' to produce keys with Geek Hack written on them. I will make sure to properly ask the admins next time. Additionally, I am unable to pause the group buy, signature plastics won't like it if I tell them to pull out at this point.

Additional note: This will be the last comment I make in this thread regarding my lack of contacting admins before beginning the interest check with signature plastics.

[GSimon]

tl:dr

another reason I never go on reddit...they can have their unrestricted, angry, self-loathing, neverloving, overindulging, overreaching selves a great time.

It appears that r/mk may one day threaten the good name of our established business, Mechanical Keyboards, Inc. May it never be so...do you hear me foul-spirited redditors... 

Lol, what's funny is for the most part reddit, particularly /r/mk, is good-natured, largely due to the voting system and backlash of downvotes. They're also pretty understanding due to the desire to support each other over what most 'outsiders' would consider to be a frivolous/nerdy hobby. The overindulging & overreaching might have some credence however.

If anything I initially had to tone down my angry/hateful comments because of how sensitive a lot of them are. I think one example was I stated "who cares what someone does to some old keyboard anyway" after a user painted an IBM keyboard black and the subreddit was against that on principle. I still stand by that statement, it's their property, but I tend to keep those comments to myself now. Not saying I don't ever step out of line though

[00zeRO]

tl:dr

another reason I never go on reddit...they can have their unrestricted, angry, self-loathing, neverloving, overindulging, overreaching selves a great time.

It appears that r/mk may one day threaten the good name of our established business, Mechanical Keyboards, Inc. May it never be so...do you hear me foul-spirited redditors... 

Lol, what's funny is for the most part reddit, particularly /r/mk, is good-natured, largely due to the voting system and backlash of downvotes. They're also pretty understanding due to the desire to support each other over what most 'outsiders' would consider to be a frivolous/nerdy hobby. The overindulging & overreaching might have some credence however.

If anything I initially had to tone down my angry/hateful comments because of how sensitive a lot of them are. I think one example was I stated "who cares what someone does to some old keyboard anyway" after a user painted an IBM keyboard black and the subreddit was against that on principle. I still stand by that statement, it's their property, but I tend to keep those comments to myself now. Not saying I don't ever step out of line though

Well, the post that caused me to stop following r/MK was when a guy was bragging about his self love being all over his keyboard before sending it in to be RMA'd. He goes into quite a bit of detail, and needless to say, I was eating. From that day forward, I was done with reddit...clearly there are no restrictions, reminds me of the old Cole Porter song, 'Anything Goes'