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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #400 on: Thu, 30 July 2015, 21:49:11 »
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
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OK, so the LEDs will still sit on the switch top, and not just shine through from underneath the clear body?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #401 on: Fri, 31 July 2015, 13:13:32 »
Will these switches have a high actuation point compared to cherry?  For some reason that bothers me about all the other Gateron switches and, on paper, doesn't sound like my preference.

Really I don't notice it at all when switching between gaterons and cherries.

Agreed with azhdar, the actuation point as I remember it on Gaterons isn't different from Cherry.

Will these switches have a high actuation point compared to cherry?  For some reason that bothers me about all the other Gateron switches and, on paper, doesn't sound like my preference.
Gaterons have the same actuation point as cherry, don't they?

That's my bad guys.

I thought for sure I read that somewhere on here.  In that case that makes me pretty hype for these switches then.  Sucks that I bought maybe 4 or 5 sets of 62g springs though,  :))

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #402 on: Fri, 31 July 2015, 14:26:52 »
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
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This is going to be glorious. Do you know where to buy this king of RGB LEDs ? I had a RGB controller in the works but put it on hold due to the lack of easy to use LED form factor.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #403 on: Fri, 31 July 2015, 15:21:19 »
D-79 with project zealio - this is so, so cool. Wow.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #404 on: Fri, 31 July 2015, 21:48:18 »
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
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This is going to be glorious. Do you know where to buy this king of RGB LEDs ? I had a RGB controller in the works but put it on hold due to the lack of easy to use LED form factor.

Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #405 on: Fri, 31 July 2015, 22:02:27 »
So whens my review packet coming?
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #406 on: Fri, 31 July 2015, 22:23:31 »
Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.
This explains why I'm not being able to find those LEDs on AliExpress. Maybe Alibaba?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #407 on: Fri, 31 July 2015, 22:28:37 »
Will these switches have a high actuation point compared to cherry?  For some reason that bothers me about all the other Gateron switches and, on paper, doesn't sound like my preference.

Really I don't notice it at all when switching between gaterons and cherries.

Agreed with azhdar, the actuation point as I remember it on Gaterons isn't different from Cherry.

Will these switches have a high actuation point compared to cherry?  For some reason that bothers me about all the other Gateron switches and, on paper, doesn't sound like my preference.
Gaterons have the same actuation point as cherry, don't they?

That's my bad guys.

I thought for sure I read that somewhere on here.  In that case that makes me pretty hype for these switches then.  Sucks that I bought maybe 4 or 5 sets of 62g springs though,  :))

lol, I just bought a set of 62g springs from Sprit for some Ergo Clears in my Jane, but I think I'm going to put these instead.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #408 on: Sat, 01 August 2015, 18:50:18 »
Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #409 on: Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:04:35 »
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
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This is going to be glorious. Do you know where to buy this king of RGB LEDs ? I had a RGB controller in the works but put it on hold due to the lack of easy to use LED form factor.

Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.

But the switches also support the regular 2x3x4mm, 3mm, 1.8mm LEDs that are out there, right?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #410 on: Sat, 01 August 2015, 19:06:15 »
So, silly question maybe, but when you say these switches will be 4-pin LED compatible, you're talking about 4 thru-holes for the LED to sit on the top of the switch like normal LEDs?

This variant:
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This is going to be glorious. Do you know where to buy this king of RGB LEDs ? I had a RGB controller in the works but put it on hold due to the lack of easy to use LED form factor.

Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.

But the switches also support the regular 2x3x4mm, 3mm, 1.8mm LEDs that are out there, right?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #411 on: Sun, 02 August 2015, 02:04:10 »
Gateron Ergo Clears with Gateron Clear Casing.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #412 on: Sun, 02 August 2015, 20:59:44 »
This variant:
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This is going to be glorious. Do you know where to buy this king of RGB LEDs ? I had a RGB controller in the works but put it on hold due to the lack of easy to use LED form factor.

Those types of LEDs are usually only sold to large keyboard OEM's in tens of thousands.  I will be stocking them once a proper RGB LED PCB has been developed.

In the near term, these may be a little bigger and require bending the pins, but they work alright and are available in smaller quantities.



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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #413 on: Sun, 02 August 2015, 21:10:40 »
I am definitely in for a at least a hundred of these. Can't wait!

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #414 on: Sun, 02 August 2015, 21:13:48 »
You asked for it, we delivered.

Introducing Project Zealios - 62g gold plated springs in an exclusive custom made Purple "MX Clear" stem. No ErgoBrown Gateron bull**** (cough). This is the real deal. Along with the project was a custom made transparent switch bottom housing to maximize LED lighting. Switch will be compatible with 4-pin RGB LEDs (not pictured). The purple stems have the tight stem cross removed from the original MX Clear stems. No more accidental switch breaking! Yay!

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #415 on: Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:24:32 »
Very nice!

Questions:

1. Was anyone breaking their switches because of the tight stem on the clears?  I didn't see any disadvantage to those fat stem crosses but I liked that it make me feel that my caps weren't loose (I've had some trouble with loose caps, maybe I got a faulty batch of browns), but I won't mind if the stem isn't fat if it doesn't have any advantage to it.


1. Yes, it's a huge problem that's quite widely known. Especially happens on tight keycaps (GMK ABS, Gateron PBT, etc)
If you were using imsto keycaps, those are generally very loose keycaps. That may be why it felt "just right" on MX Clears.
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Sorry I've been away from the keyboard scene for a couple of months, but Gateron switches break when using GMK ABS and Gateron PBT?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #416 on: Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:27:54 »
Very nice!

Questions:

1. Was anyone breaking their switches because of the tight stem on the clears?  I didn't see any disadvantage to those fat stem crosses but I liked that it make me feel that my caps weren't loose (I've had some trouble with loose caps, maybe I got a faulty batch of browns), but I won't mind if the stem isn't fat if it doesn't have any advantage to it.


1. Yes, it's a huge problem that's quite widely known. Especially happens on tight keycaps (GMK ABS, Gateron PBT, etc)
If you were using imsto keycaps, those are generally very loose keycaps. That may be why it felt "just right" on MX Clears.
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Sorry I've been away from the keyboard scene for a couple of months, but Gateron switches break when using GMK ABS and Gateron PBT?



No, cherry mx clear stems tend to hold on to certain keycaps tighter and when you aren't careful removing the keycaps you will pull the stem right out of the switch. In Zeal's reproduction switch in partnership with Gateron they have tried to leave off that aspect of the mx clear stem.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #417 on: Mon, 03 August 2015, 12:31:32 »
Very nice!

Questions:

1. Was anyone breaking their switches because of the tight stem on the clears?  I didn't see any disadvantage to those fat stem crosses but I liked that it make me feel that my caps weren't loose (I've had some trouble with loose caps, maybe I got a faulty batch of browns), but I won't mind if the stem isn't fat if it doesn't have any advantage to it.


1. Yes, it's a huge problem that's quite widely known. Especially happens on tight keycaps (GMK ABS, Gateron PBT, etc)
If you were using imsto keycaps, those are generally very loose keycaps. That may be why it felt "just right" on MX Clears.
Show Image



Sorry I've been away from the keyboard scene for a couple of months, but Gateron switches break when using GMK ABS and Gateron PBT?



No, cherry mx clear stems tend to hold on to certain keycaps tighter and when you aren't careful removing the keycaps you will pull the stem right out of the switch. In Zeal's reproduction switch in partnership with Gateron they have tried to leave off that aspect of the mx clear stem.

Thanks for the quick reply SpAmRaY, I was sweating there for a moment. 
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #418 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 08:29:14 »
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #420 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 20:57:48 »
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)
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« Reply #421 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:03:15 »
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)

Any thoughts on producing a Gateron "MX Green"?

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« Reply #422 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:24:16 »
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)

Omahgosh I can't wait, I really want to build my gf a keyboard with these. We both love purple and this is absolutely perfect with the color, spring, and clear housing!  ;D :p Can not wait.
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #423 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:27:40 »
I can't decide whether to continue with my current project (60%, already bought switches, leds, stickers, SIP sockets, springs) or ditch it and wait for this to drop...

Leaning towards the latter, because these are pretty sick.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #424 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:28:55 »
It just occurred to me, is this the first time an MX Clear equivalent Gateron switch has been made?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #425 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:43:08 »
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #426 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 21:47:18 »
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)

Any thoughts on producing a Gateron "MX Green"?

It already exists. I got a few samples fresh from their production line at the factory, but they were prototyping, and the spring weight wasn't right. I told them about it, so it should be fixed now. I can provide some pics later in the evening.

It just occurred to me, is this the first time an MX Clear equivalent Gateron switch has been made?

Yes. I worked & invested with Gateron to make the improved MX Clear stem. :)
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« Reply #427 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 22:33:41 »
Yes. I worked & invested with Gateron to make the improved MX Clear stem. :)
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #429 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 00:17:25 »
Yes. I worked & invested with Gateron to make the improved MX Clear stem. :)
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #430 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 01:29:49 »
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)

Any thoughts on producing a Gateron "MX Green"?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #431 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 08:37:31 »
So what will the Gateron Green switch weight be set at?

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« Reply #432 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 09:11:35 »
Zeal I really hope you're ready to be buried under the mountain of caps gateron's going to send you when this goes live.  :))

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #433 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 09:35:03 »
So what will the Gateron Green switch weight be set at?
They should be similar to regular MX Greens. Gateron Greens weren't my custom order, and I don't have the final product on hand.

Zeal I really hope you're ready to be buried under the mountain of caps gateron's going to send you when this goes live.  :))
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« Reply #434 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 09:36:15 »
Caps? They're switches! ;)

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #435 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 12:27:19 »
The more I think about these, the more I want them...

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« Reply #436 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 16:33:46 »
Yup,  these are going on my Mira!

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #438 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 17:37:35 »
Putting these on my ALT 60.  :p

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #440 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 22:30:06 »
If these are smoother I wonder how will lighter Springs would work

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #441 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 09:03:23 »
It just occurred to me, is this the first time an MX Clear equivalent Gateron switch has been made?

Well given Gaterons have only been popular for the lesser part of a year, the answer is yes. I think this is the first time MX Clear type switches have been available from anyone other than Cherry.

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« Reply #442 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 10:14:37 »
Whoa, purple clears is exactly what I didn't know I needed.

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #443 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:24:14 »
Wow, it's been a good while since I've dropped by this thread. :D
Amazing to see the progress. Would defo get some for a 60% I've been planning for awhile.
1 q though, will the stock springs be 62g or some other weight? :O
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #444 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:27:53 »
Wow, it's been a good while since I've dropped by this thread. :D
Amazing to see the progress. Would defo get some for a 60% I've been planning for awhile.
1 q though, will the stock springs be 62g or some other weight? :O
Am very excited! :D

Stock will be 62g gold plated springs.
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #445 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 11:55:24 »
Wow, it's been a good while since I've dropped by this thread. :D
Amazing to see the progress. Would defo get some for a 60% I've been planning for awhile.
1 q though, will the stock springs be 62g or some other weight? :O
Am very excited! :D

Stock will be 62g gold plated springs.

Sick stuff bro  ;D even more hype now  ;)
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #446 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 12:14:57 »
Are there any details about the group buy available yet?

Specifically when?
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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #447 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 12:16:58 »
Are there any details about the group buy available yet?

Specifically when?
Gimme GB naow!!!

Samples have been shipped out. Hopefully receive it by the end of the week. If not, I'll receive it on Monday.

Once I receive samples and they've been sent out to testers, I'll be receiving their feedback. That process should take around a week. If everything's A-OK, GB will commence at the end of August. :)


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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #448 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:13:23 »
Is there information on an expected price or is that a secret?

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Re: Project Zealio - 62g Purple "MX Clear" Switch in transparent housing
« Reply #449 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 13:15:40 »
Is there information on an expected price or is that a secret?

Sorry if this has been asked already and I'm sure it depends on how many switches are ordered but might there be a rough estimate of cost per switch on these? thanks Zeal!

How much are these going to cost though?

Can we expect them to be around the same price point of cherry switches or is it going to be significantly higher?

It will be priced higher than Cherry switches, but under $1. Pricing is still being finalized.


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