[GB] GMK CYL 1520

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CYL 1520 will use UV printing as well as double shot ABS.

Kitting







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Vendors

US: NovelKeys
EU: Oblotzky
UK: ProtoTypist
SEA: ilumkb
ASIA: zFrontier
AU: Daily Clack


Pricing

Base - $125 USD
Extension - $40 USD


GB Date

March 1st - March 29th

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[HoffmanMyster]

Approved

[AMZ]

Is the numbers will be shared?

[NoFace]

Fun fact, shop which is the closest to the factory where keycaps are made, is the most expensive (148,98$ for the base kit, based on current exchange rate, excluding shipping)..
I am wondering, why GMK is not able to give shops in Germany better deals to support their local market.

[Nevrest]

Fun fact, shop which is the closest to the factory where keycaps are made, is the most expensive (148,98$ for the base kit, based on current exchange rate, excluding shipping)..
I am wondering, why GMK is not able to give shops in Germany better deals to support their local market.

There's other factors at play here, I don't think GMK charges any more or less for any of the vendors, but you have to factor in the cost of labor.
The vendors that run the GB's do a lot behind the scenes, and that requires labor. Someone who's in Germany will therefor charge a bit more than someone in say Singapore, where the labor prices are lower.

[mr_foggy]

Fun fact, shop which is the closest to the factory where keycaps are made, is the most expensive (148,98$ for the base kit, based on current exchange rate, excluding shipping)..
I am wondering, why GMK is not able to give shops in Germany better deals to support their local market.

because VAT

hard to offer good prices if you have to factor in 19 to 25% of the item value in the final price

[_rubik]

I bricked a board today and jumped on GH for the first time in months to get help...

If there is a higher power out there, they work in weird ways. I would have missed this if not for my bunk firmware. So happy to see this running!

[NoFace]

There's other factors at play here, I don't think GMK charges any more or less for any of the vendors, but you have to factor in the cost of labor.
The vendors that run the GB's do a lot behind the scenes, and that requires labor. Someone who's in Germany will therefor charge a bit more than someone in say Singapore, where the labor prices are lower.

because VAT

hard to offer good prices if you have to factor in 19 to 25% of the item value in the final price

All of those are fair points, but from business perspective, it should not happen, that item produced literately next door, is more expensive locally, than the same exported item.
Every seller has to deal with additional costs, but GMK margins are high enough, from my point of view, so they can make sure, that regular price is equal or lower on local market, in comparison to foreign market.

What is the point of publishing pricing, which at the end might be 25% more...

[Neely_12]

There's other factors at play here, I don't think GMK charges any more or less for any of the vendors, but you have to factor in the cost of labor.
The vendors that run the GB's do a lot behind the scenes, and that requires labor. Someone who's in Germany will therefor charge a bit more than someone in say Singapore, where the labor prices are lower.

because VAT

hard to offer good prices if you have to factor in 19 to 25% of the item value in the final price

All of those are fair points, but from business perspective, it should not happen, that item produced literately next door, is more expensive locally, than the same exported item.
Every seller has to deal with additional costs, but GMK margins are high enough, from my point of view, so they can make sure, that regular price is equal or lower on local market, in comparison to foreign market.

What is the point of publishing pricing, which at the end might be 25% more...

VAT is legally necessary within Europe for Oblotzky. There is literally nothing they can do about it. If you take off the VAT, and use the current exchange rate, it is actually 80 cents cheaper for the base kit.

[Neely_12]

I bricked a board today and jumped on GH for the first time in months to get help...

If there is a higher power out there, they work in weird ways. I would have missed this if not for my bunk firmware. So happy to see this running!

So happy the Geekhack gods brought you here in time 

[SwitchKeys]

There's other factors at play here, I don't think GMK charges any more or less for any of the vendors, but you have to factor in the cost of labor.
The vendors that run the GB's do a lot behind the scenes, and that requires labor. Someone who's in Germany will therefor charge a bit more than someone in say Singapore, where the labor prices are lower.

because VAT

hard to offer good prices if you have to factor in 19 to 25% of the item value in the final price

All of those are fair points, but from business perspective, it should not happen, that item produced literately next door, is more expensive locally, than the same exported item.
Every seller has to deal with additional costs, but GMK margins are high enough, from my point of view, so they can make sure, that regular price is equal or lower on local market, in comparison to foreign market.

What is the point of publishing pricing, which at the end might be 25% more...

I think the point you are missing is that in Europe, Australia and several other countries sales tax is reflected in the item price. In the USA however consumers like to get cucked by taxes at checkout instead.

So even though things may appear cheaper from a pricing table perspective, folks in the USA and folks in Europe may end up closer than you think

[Nevrest]

There's other factors at play here, I don't think GMK charges any more or less for any of the vendors, but you have to factor in the cost of labor.
The vendors that run the GB's do a lot behind the scenes, and that requires labor. Someone who's in Germany will therefor charge a bit more than someone in say Singapore, where the labor prices are lower.

because VAT

hard to offer good prices if you have to factor in 19 to 25% of the item value in the final price

All of those are fair points, but from business perspective, it should not happen, that item produced literately next door, is more expensive locally, than the same exported item.
Every seller has to deal with additional costs, but GMK margins are high enough, from my point of view, so they can make sure, that regular price is equal or lower on local market, in comparison to foreign market.

What is the point of publishing pricing, which at the end might be 25% more...

VAT is legally necessary within Europe for Oblotzky. There is literally nothing they can do about it. If you take off the VAT, and use the current exchange rate, it is actually 80 cents cheaper for the base kit.

This^^, if you select shipping outside the EU you can see the actual cost. For this set for example it cost €113.45 from Oblotzky without VAT. VAT goes the the government, not the vendor/GMK

[dvorcol]

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There's other factors at play here, I don't think GMK charges any more or less for any of the vendors, but you have to factor in the cost of labor.
The vendors that run the GB's do a lot behind the scenes, and that requires labor. Someone who's in Germany will therefor charge a bit more than someone in say Singapore, where the labor prices are lower.

because VAT

hard to offer good prices if you have to factor in 19 to 25% of the item value in the final price

All of those are fair points, but from business perspective, it should not happen, that item produced literately next door, is more expensive locally, than the same exported item.
Every seller has to deal with additional costs, but GMK margins are high enough, from my point of view, so they can make sure, that regular price is equal or lower on local market, in comparison to foreign market.

What is the point of publishing pricing, which at the end might be 25% more...

I think the point you are missing is that in Europe, Australia and several other countries sales tax is reflected in the item price. In the USA however consumers like to get cucked by taxes at checkout instead.

So even though things may appear cheaper from a pricing table perspective, folks in the USA and folks in Europe may end up closer than you think

Also, US sales tax varies state-by-state.


from https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/2022-sales-taxes/

[tactilesbad]

So even though things may appear cheaper from a pricing table perspective, folks in the USA and folks in Europe may end up closer than you think

tbf lowest VAT in europe is 19% which is roughly double than the highest sales tax in the US. not to mention some EU states where VAT ramps up to 22-25%. still way rougher for the folks in europe.

[roostrc0gburn]

i think i got in at the last minute

[Trackpoint]

How did this do? NovelKeys says "order placed" so I guess everything hit MOQ?

[Neely_12]

How did this do? NovelKeys says "order placed" so I guess everything hit MOQ?

Novelkeys has transitioned to pre-orders, instead of group buys as they ensure each set they run is made. The set hit MOQ and everything will be made 

[keepoto]

How did this do? NovelKeys says "order placed" so I guess everything hit MOQ?

Novelkeys has transitioned to pre-orders, instead of group buys as they ensure each set they run is made. The set hit MOQ and everything will be made 

congrats!

[Trackpoint]

Novelkeys has transitioned to pre-orders, instead of group buys as they ensure each set they run is made. The set hit MOQ and everything will be made 

Nice, good to hear!

[roostrc0gburn]

How did this do? NovelKeys says "order placed" so I guess everything hit MOQ?

Novelkeys has transitioned to pre-orders, instead of group buys as they ensure each set they run is made. The set hit MOQ and everything will be made 

[chaos2theory]

I cannot believe I missed this after following this keycap set for literally years.

Any chance there will be a second GB?

[_rubik]

I cannot believe I missed this after following this keycap set for literally years.

Any chance there will be a second GB?

Damn. I'm sorry that can't feel good. Maybe you'll find look getting some extras in-stock?

[Neely_12]

I cannot believe I missed this after following this keycap set for literally years.

Any chance there will be a second GB?

Vendors will definitely have extras so keep an eye out. Also, Novelkeys usually hosts extras pre-orders.