Post by: oldcat on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:19:45
@alexotos will be live stream building think6.5v2 prototypes, the first stream will be this Sunday 1PM ET at https://m.twitch.tv/alexotos/, tune into his stream channel! So far it is confirmed that Apairy will be receiving a prototype to build as well.
I will discuss details with Alex on how to join the giveaway!! Thanks Alex!
Follow oldcat87 (https://www.instagram.com/oldcat87/) and alexotos (https://www.instagram.com/alexotos/) for more details soon!
Alex's build stream of the PC version: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/684464581
Apiary and Alex will be both building an aluminum version next week. I will also send my own prototype to Tiny and Taeha next week. Their schedules may not work out for the GB, but at least you will enjoy the build streams some time!
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Hello keeb friends,
It's been a while since the Think6.5 GB! Hope you are doing well and staying healthy.
I have started this design last year but was not able to start an IC due to personal reasons. Now things are much better, I now decide to start an interest check for a gasket-mount, half-seamless Think6.5 V2. For those of you who are curious about how the R1 design looks like, here is the original IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99634 and a more user-friend and detailed collated information page: https://keyboard.guide/board/think6.5/
2U Version
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1U Version
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Here are some features of the V2 version that are different from V1 Think.
1. Mounting: Gasket-mount. Double sided, specially made gaskets.
2. Badge position: Both 2U (OG) and 1U badge positions will be offered.
3. Badge designs: Lightbulb-Gear badge will be the default badge. Optional badge: 1U (Anchor), 2U (Compass)
4. Case material: Aluminum, and frosted polycarbonate (PC).
5. Plate material: Dual-color FR-4 plates.
6. PCB: Works with both QMK and VIA out of the box; RGB LEDs diffused under: Badge (1U and 2U), light strip (2U), and underglow (under PCB). ESD protection.
7. Colors: Single tone: e-white, black, PC; dual-tone: white-black, white-pink, gray-black, purple-black, pink-black, blue-black.
8. Price: Anodized Aluminum $349; e-white/e-white dual-tones: $369; PC: $379 (with fees covered, shipping is not covered).
9. GB Format: AirPotter from Gray Studio will be the vendor and manufacturer. GB will be hosted on Graystudio.club for a limited time.
10. Timeframe: GB currently projected in the week of July 20, 2020.
Geekhack IC Feedback Items to Incorporate (all incorporated and case 3D modeling design finalized):
1. Remove '2020' from the 2U Badge: done
2. Remove '2020' engraving from the bottom: done
3. Rename the sequel to "Think6.5 v2.0": done
4. Bring back the lightbulb to the badge design: done
5. Reduce the size of the 2U badge: done
6. Polycarbonate option: done (yes)
7. Make an anchor badge: done
8. Start a poll about various choices and options: done
9. A brass/aluminum Think artisan keycap to go with the GB: done
10. Reduce the size of the 1U badge: done
11. Engrave "THiNK" on the bottom: done
12. Tweak "THiNK" engraving location: done
13. Rubber feet do not cover screw holes.: done
14. A tweak to the rear end to enable PC production: done
15. CatThink artisan: done
16: Thonk artisan: done
17: Compatibility layout options: done (everything will be provided except split space)
18: USB outlet design: done (gear-outlet)
19: Decide which badge design(s) to pick: done (pretty much)
20: Adding chamfers to 1U badges: done
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And cast your vote in the new poll (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1WVvH6Xy0c0S6COTEKRw8WwBMFHqbKpzIUaLOxDGYIEw/viewform) for the design/layout options
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The story behind the design choices: Why do I choose anchor, sailboat, and compass to replace the gear and lightbulb?
More
There is always some sort of story behind a purposeful design, I like reading those stories with I join a Group Buy, but this time I was a bit hesitant in sharing the story as it can sound a bit corny. Now I feel it is important that I share why I made the choices, given the divergent opinions on the 'drastically different looking board' here being discussed. I do believe everyone has provided a lot of value in their feedback, and I am sure some will be taken into account as I keep finetuning things. Some of the comments are confirming my prior beliefs about some additional changes. As I am not in a hurry to run a Group Buy given CyberVoyager production is in progress, more feedback sparks more thinking, and is always beneficial to the board design as well as future owners of the board.
With the preamble out of the way, here are mainly two rationales behind this design choice.
First, I have no intention of replicating Think6.5 R1 because it is not fun and not challenging as an enthusiast. Further, I do not participate in the group buy profit sharing and replication of Think6.5 R1 will not make sense for me. Therefore, the question is, do I change the design elements for R2, or keep the design elements and just modify the structure (to gasket)? I opt for a refreshing design that has the potential to be aesthetically more pleasing than the R1 design.
Second, back to the meaning of the design. It was not meant to be a "nautical" theme. In a literal sense, it is nautical; yet at a higher level, the thinking process has little to do with nautical. To start off, I already had a replicated design last year for R2 based on the R1 design with a new gasket structure added. But as I pick up the project now, I want to divert from the original design to add elements that are more meaningful for 2020. The anchor came from my wife's idea of "refuse to sink," as the world is sinking to some extent; and then the sailboat and compass are lucky icons in many cultures that symbolize peace and success in life, be it the status quo or your new adventures. And the symbolic value is that I hope everyone's life will anchor in a safe haven. In terms of the design, the anchor is made to shape like a "T" in Think, and I have designed other original Think elements (e.g., lightbulb badge) that are not yet shown here. To be honest, I feel 2020 is a special year and it may never get old. But I do consider removing 2020 from the 2U badge. With all the above said, the overall design flavor is actually very close to Think6.5 (same angle, similar chamfers, and trying to be a good looking minimalist design).
In anyway, this design story is not intended to change your opinion of the design. Aesthetics can be a tricky thing, particularly design elements that pop out visually. So apparently this sequel to Think6.5 will not be in everyone's taste. But with me sharing the context and design thinking process, at least you are aware that these are not random elements placed together. And as more badges are released and some are perhaps modified, I hope they will at least salvage some friends' love for the original Think6.5.
Lastly, quite a few people DM'd to ask me about whether I have any plan to do a replication of Think6.5 R1 version as a group buy. Regretfully, I will not. As I mentioned above, I am not interested in running the same GB twice, particularly as I am not participating on the financial side (e.g., profit-sharing) of the Group Buys. I am happy enough and grateful that AirPotter and Gray Studio help me materialize my design visions into actual products. I have released all my parts of the copyright of the original Think6.5 to AirPotter so it is up to him if he chooses to run in the future.
With the preamble out of the way, here are mainly two rationales behind this design choice.
First, I have no intention of replicating Think6.5 R1 because it is not fun and not challenging as an enthusiast. Further, I do not participate in the group buy profit sharing and replication of Think6.5 R1 will not make sense for me. Therefore, the question is, do I change the design elements for R2, or keep the design elements and just modify the structure (to gasket)? I opt for a refreshing design that has the potential to be aesthetically more pleasing than the R1 design.
Second, back to the meaning of the design. It was not meant to be a "nautical" theme. In a literal sense, it is nautical; yet at a higher level, the thinking process has little to do with nautical. To start off, I already had a replicated design last year for R2 based on the R1 design with a new gasket structure added. But as I pick up the project now, I want to divert from the original design to add elements that are more meaningful for 2020. The anchor came from my wife's idea of "refuse to sink," as the world is sinking to some extent; and then the sailboat and compass are lucky icons in many cultures that symbolize peace and success in life, be it the status quo or your new adventures. And the symbolic value is that I hope everyone's life will anchor in a safe haven. In terms of the design, the anchor is made to shape like a "T" in Think, and I have designed other original Think elements (e.g., lightbulb badge) that are not yet shown here. To be honest, I feel 2020 is a special year and it may never get old. But I do consider removing 2020 from the 2U badge. With all the above said, the overall design flavor is actually very close to Think6.5 (same angle, similar chamfers, and trying to be a good looking minimalist design).
In anyway, this design story is not intended to change your opinion of the design. Aesthetics can be a tricky thing, particularly design elements that pop out visually. So apparently this sequel to Think6.5 will not be in everyone's taste. But with me sharing the context and design thinking process, at least you are aware that these are not random elements placed together. And as more badges are released and some are perhaps modified, I hope they will at least salvage some friends' love for the original Think6.5.
Lastly, quite a few people DM'd to ask me about whether I have any plan to do a replication of Think6.5 R1 version as a group buy. Regretfully, I will not. As I mentioned above, I am not interested in running the same GB twice, particularly as I am not participating on the financial side (e.g., profit-sharing) of the Group Buys. I am happy enough and grateful that AirPotter and Gray Studio help me materialize my design visions into actual products. I have released all my parts of the copyright of the original Think6.5 to AirPotter so it is up to him if he chooses to run in the future.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:20:01
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5/27/2020: Deskmats are being prototyped. Aluminum Case CNC is done and waiting for surface treatment. PC version started to prototype.
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By xingchen_fan, this will likely be included in the GB
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One more colorway by xingchen_fan, this will likely be included in the GB - will likely pick one background color later.
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By 66Fannie99, this will be included in the GB.
Lastly, a fun one for you guys as you wait for the Think6.5V2! Yes, it is coming :)
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Here are the 1U PCBs, 2U will be separate and coming soon:
Red is just for prototyping, Final color is pending - suggestions welcome
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Also the cat logo will be replaced by the one below：
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FR-4 Plate Prototype received:
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2020/6/9
Tested anodizing a 1U prototype today!
Forgive the low-quality phone picture, and it appears Potter is too excited to get it done and did not notice that the 1U badge chamfer has not been added yet (it will be).
And prototypes for the 2U in other colors, and the polycarbonate version are forthcoming in the next few days.
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6/13/2020:
Good news, the prototypes are confirmed to work perfectly by Potter. All-POM holy pandas were used in testing and the typing feel is sublime.
Next, I have asked Potter (requested by some discord members and friends here) to make gaskets of varying softness and different materials, so I can test them and see if I can find the optimal softness and material. The prototypes should be sent to me soon once the new gaskets are made (a week or so). In the meantime, Potter said he will take some pictures of the Think6.5v2 prototypes and the Space65 ano samples. PC prototypes are also done, pictures forthcoming.
Here is a purple anodization prototype (EVA purple):
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6/15/2020:
PC prototypes (2U):
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6/17/2020:
Details of the injection-molded prototype gasket with the release cuts - more pictures of various hardness/material coming soon:
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Details of the gaskets:
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White-pink prototype:
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Post by: eniigma on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:21:07
Post by: nicx on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:23:12
I think you should get crazy and do a beige version..
Post by: Sleep0ke on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:24:07
Post by: gnhuy91 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:25:16
Post by: cijanzen on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:25:23
Nice stuff
Post by: Zylkan on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:25:51
Post by: SolidCactus on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:26:25
Post by: NOLA on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:26:35
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Post by: Visionaire on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:26:59
1. The side introduces the additional fillet that makes the side profile a bit more interesting
2. The top is a little too rounded and chonky imo
Additionally, I'm way more in love with the style on the bottom weight than the top badge options at the moment.
Post by: IMZO on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:27:16
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:27:49
Post by: Mc Eggroll on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:27:59
Post by: Clueless on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:29:58
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:30:05
Post by: stopitsme on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:30:28
Post by: Scottw on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:30:54
But if I have to choose, I like the lower badge. I generally prefer space around my arrows.
Post by: thecyangiant on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:31:13
Prefer the 2u lower badge assuming split backspace! (And please consider split space!)
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Post by: lucka33 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:31:51
Post by: Abec13 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:33:24
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:33:50
Def looks decent. Dunno about all boating, lol. Thought the OG lightbulb and "think" made more sense.
Thanks for the feedback. There are some stories behind the design, but I will leave that out but just focus on aesthetics now.
Short story is that the design inspiration is definitely related to how this 2020 went down. There are also like 4 other badge designs I will share later, some will relate to "Think"
Post by: Eisberg09 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:34:25
Post by: crispgm on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:35:05
And one more question is why the new design of the back side so complicated comparing to R1. I like the simple style.
Post by: aggressively_misled on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:36:15
Post by: logo4poop on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:36:39
Post by: bsanto on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:37:05
Post by: Dopamine on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:38:08
Post by: f1 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:39:23
Sent from my smartphone which I have. Case, charger and everything.
Post by: nettoxx7 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:39:42
Will definitely join !
Post by: byoliven on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:40:07
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Post by: Gnives on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:40:18
Top right placement is preference.
Post by: sirbestia on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:42:25
1. Original placement (new placement looks good but too many keebs with this placement)
2. I also agree that the Anchor doesn't match the THINK theme, could have been a completely different board if you're using this design, though I do like it
3. PC, please!! A lot of people agreed with me in the discord channel that the reason they want this second version since they missed out on buying the original PC at regular price
No matter what tho, I think this will do really good!
Thank you
Post by: Pach on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:42:57
Post by: MrFixIT12 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:43:41
Post by: JakeyPancakey on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:44:28
Post by: woyaodapian on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:47:55
Preferred the original design with some new elements.
Seems like there is an emphasis on "2020"
Cant't wait for the story behind the anchor and how it would relate to "think".
PC would be great.
Looking forward to more updates!
Post by: Fannie_w on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:53:51
Post by: yicaoyimu on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:54:21
The new bottom and the lines in the front is a bit too much for me.
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:55:39
Interesting update! I think the top-right placement makes more sense functionally and aesthetically. Enough changes here to certainly warrant a R2 evolution.
Nice stuff
I also sort of agree with this:
IMO I don't like the "2020" text. The board should keep a timeless look.
Finally, have you considered a more rounded bottom case profile?
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:56:54
Post by: Phemia on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:58:51
I don't really care if it's themed around anchors, I just don't like the inclusion of '2020'
Would love a PC version for sure.
Post by: Rozalin81 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 11:59:25
Post by: NEZ on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:01:21
Post by: jhuang on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:03:58
Post by: ivu on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:04:08
Quite a few other boards with top right badge. You should keep the small details which make the board different.
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Post by: or0616 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:04:58
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:06:18
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Post by: Jaltr on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:08:30
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Post by: NOLA on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:14:49
The original position is kind of a special for Think.Now that this is being brought up, I agree. It's probably what makes the board so desired. Its original aesthetic. Don't sway too much away from it. Just subtle refinements mostly performance based would be great and prompt me to join.
Quite a few other boards with top right badge. You should keep the small details which make the board different.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:18:48
Hello keeb friends,
It's been a while since the Think6.5 GB! Hope you are doing well and staying healthy.
I have started this design last year but was not able to start an IC due to personal reasons. Now things are much better, I now decide to start an interest check for R2 Think6.5 named '2020.' For those of you who are curious about how the R1 design looks like, here is the original IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99634
Importantly, please let me know if you prefer the original badge position or the new badge position. And board material suggestions. Any questions, please feel free to ask. And welcome any constructive feedback.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LCcojNB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qGzSbEi.jpg)
Looks awesome! Do we just reserve our interest here? I'm not seeing a link to any official Google IC Form or anything.
A couple of points to mention:
1) Definitely want there to be a Polycarb option!
2) Please also include a PCB that will be both Hotswap AND Underglow compatible
3) Top-Right Badge placement for sure!
Other than that, looks amazing! I'd love to get my hands on this!
Post by: Chozo Ghost on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:20:22
Hello keeb friends,
It's been a while since the Think6.5 GB! Hope you are doing well and staying healthy.
I have started this design last year but was not able to start an IC due to personal reasons. Now things are much better, I now decide to start an interest check for R2 Think6.5 named '2020.' For those of you who are curious about how the R1 design looks like, here is the original IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99634
Importantly, please let me know if you prefer the original badge position or the new badge position. And board material suggestions. Any questions, please feel free to ask. And welcome any constructive feedback.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LCcojNB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qGzSbEi.jpg)
Looks awesome! Do we just reserve our interest here? I'm not seeing a link to any official Google IC Form or anything.
A couple of points to mention:
1) Definitely want there to be a Polycarb option!
2) Please also include a PCB that will be both Hotswap AND Underglow compatible
3) Top-Right Badge placement for sure!
Other than that, looks amazing! I'd love to get my hands on this!
*sorry if this posts multiple times; couldn't tell if my original comment posted or not.
Post by: HOBI3CAT on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:22:32
I prefer the top-right badge option for sure.
Will be in 100% if it supports split space, and comes in polycarb!
Post by: add1ct3dd on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:23:59
If it changes I'd be interested in picking one up as a continuation and extension to the V1, but not in current form sadly. Will keep monitoring the thread to see if there's any changes etc :)
Post by: ninjacore on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:24:06
I bought R1 and really liked the quality, looks, and feel. I would probably be in for R2 as well, though the boating theme would make it a hard pass for me. I don't find that theme appealing at all and don't understand how it fits into this community.
Post by: Felix1 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:26:35
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:27:50
Post by: ©ypher on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:32:08
Post by: Rexcramer on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:32:23
Post by: OscarPapa on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:33:48
Post by: ogp3 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:34:32
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:37:05
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:38:38
I like a good story behind a board!Def looks decent. Dunno about all boating, lol. Thought the OG lightbulb and "think" made more sense.
Thanks for the feedback. There are some stories behind the design, but I will leave that out but just focus on aesthetics now.
Short story is that the design inspiration is definitely related to how this 2020 went down. There are also like 4 other badge designs I will share later, some will relate to "Think"
Post by: outsider on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:43:59
Post by: Slayer77 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:47:14
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Post by: i luv chuletas on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:48:11
Post by: Syrah94 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:48:33
The OG badge position is the uniqueness of THINK6.5. I prefer keeping it.
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This. I think the top right cornor has become overused smh this year
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:49:15
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Post by: arkze on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:53:52
Post by: stebosaurus on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:57:18
1. I prefer the top right blocker but don’t really like the boating theme at all. It has nothing to do with the ‘think’ theme in my opinion. I can see where you’re going with it due to the current worldwide situation, but I think it’s really cheesy and lame. I also don’t like that the badge bleeds over the edges like that.
2. The middle blocker is nice as well, but like others have said, I don’t like the ‘2020’ text on the badge. I think if it said ‘Think’ that would be better.
3. I really like the cutouts on the badges for the LED accents to shine through :)
Excited to see more renders and I’ll probably be in on the groupbuy regardless.
Post by: sirieous on Fri, 24 April 2020, 12:59:22
Post by: wangsk666 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:08:42
And a pc version pls!
Post by: Mcnos on Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:10:15
Post by: Helpingly on Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:10:55
Also, I have a R1 think, but the anchor design is really cool so I might be interested in R2. Hopefully the run goes a little better than last time though.
Post by: Pedersays on Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:11:54
Post by: FTR_Beat on Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:13:09
Like OG's placement ala fc660 a lot. I think it works best from an ergo and aesthetic perspective.
Where is the Fn key on keeb #1?
I like the compass logo. Not sure about 2020 text though. 2600 would be cool.
Still has option for hotswap?
Reserved!
Post by: MacGyver214 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:16:54
Def looks decent. Dunno about all boating, lol. Thought the OG lightbulb and "think" made more sense.
This was my first question too, I love all things nautical but what made you choose that over the original think logo design?
IMO the top right badge would be a little more on brand if it fit inside the outline of the frame instead of wrapping around on the corner. Not sure how much more room that would take up, but just my two cents.
Either way, excited for this project as I wasn't around for round one!
Post by: hmmmwhatsthis on Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:33:07
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Post by: James_fourth on Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:39:56
Post by: byomes on Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:42:27
Post by: roguesystem087 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 13:53:09
where's the think badge parts?
Post by: Nonnegaard on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:08:05
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:13:39
Arrrrgh6.5
Post by: 50ATE on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:16:45
Post by: cadrev on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:20:25
Post by: dustinhxc on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:21:18
Post by: mechmymoney on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:24:51
2. Not a big fan of the nautical theme either, as others have said already kind of seems random and doesn't tie into the Think theme which is :thumb:
3. That said I do like the emphasis on 2020 the more I look at it
Post by: fooddoof on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:28:50
Post by: 5thoughts on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:29:47
Post by: beekey on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:30:00
Post by: eniigma on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:31:59
Maybe replace the anchor with some kind of neuron symbol, likeThis reminds me of coronavirus. Rename board to COVID1.9?Show Image(https://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/organs-of-human-body/24/neuron-512.png)?
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:36:10
Lol. 19 key board. Frustrates you. makes you angry, and then you might die by injecting disinfectants into yourself.Maybe replace the anchor with some kind of neuron symbol, likeThis reminds me of coronavirus. Rename board to COVID1.9?Show Image(https://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/organs-of-human-body/24/neuron-512.png)?
Post by: spinozsa on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:37:02
Post by: beekey on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:41:17
Not the best icon, was just food for thought. Sticking to the ‚think‘ theme would be nice.Maybe replace the anchor with some kind of neuron symbol, likeThis reminds me of coronavirus. Rename board to COVID1.9?Show Image(https://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/organs-of-human-body/24/neuron-512.png)?
Post by: snaiL678 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:45:12
Post by: Dr0p on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:49:49
Post by: riku. on Fri, 24 April 2020, 14:54:06
Post by: Venomware on Fri, 24 April 2020, 15:02:56
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 24 April 2020, 15:07:55
IMO the top right badge would be a little more on brand if it fit inside the outline of the frame instead of wrapping around on the corner. Not sure how much more room that would take up, but just my two cents.
I actually like that it wraps around the corner. It's unique and looks nice. If it didn't wrap around the corner, I'd prefer the original placement since that's one of the things that made R1 stand out.
Post by: aragon_shariza on Fri, 24 April 2020, 15:08:33
Post by: Rockets. on Fri, 24 April 2020, 15:09:42
Just purchased my space, and now I'm waiting on this.
Frosted PC please! :D
Post by: Macmutant on Fri, 24 April 2020, 15:21:42
Post by: Chadtucket on Fri, 24 April 2020, 15:32:49
Post by: d0nk on Fri, 24 April 2020, 15:36:30
Post by: voelzmo on Fri, 24 April 2020, 15:40:03
Post by: BigBabyJesus on Fri, 24 April 2020, 15:48:10
Post by: Popopro on Fri, 24 April 2020, 15:57:34
Post by: garrettqmartin on Fri, 24 April 2020, 16:02:39
Post by: hingchannnn on Fri, 24 April 2020, 16:13:20
Post by: Nautilian on Fri, 24 April 2020, 16:16:27
Post by: sdotlee on Fri, 24 April 2020, 16:40:22
Post by: xef on Fri, 24 April 2020, 16:52:47
Post by: hottnucks on Fri, 24 April 2020, 17:07:35
Post by: Ultimatum on Fri, 24 April 2020, 17:09:04
Post by: thomasleegh on Fri, 24 April 2020, 17:20:03
I was wondering if you guys were set on the badge design and might want to seem more.
I also agree with others to maybe stray away from using 2020 on the badge so that it can have more of a timeless design.
Post by: cadrev on Fri, 24 April 2020, 17:37:50
Post by: gotemall on Fri, 24 April 2020, 17:45:55
Post by: Slayer77 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 18:11:36
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Post by: trustworthy on Fri, 24 April 2020, 18:35:48
Post by: jackofclubs on Fri, 24 April 2020, 18:47:45
Also, is there any way to get on an email list for this so I get notifications?
Post by: scopie on Fri, 24 April 2020, 18:55:53
Post by: FlamingChicken on Fri, 24 April 2020, 19:28:41
Post by: neutralstate on Fri, 24 April 2020, 19:44:23
it is the unique hallmark of the think 6.5, the only board out there with a badge in the middle.
move it to the top, and it becomes just like any other ordinary corner blocker 65%.
Post by: GilgameshSkull on Fri, 24 April 2020, 19:45:08
Post by: Red_Zechs on Fri, 24 April 2020, 20:26:41
Post by: niming1232 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 21:26:05
Post by: crispgm on Fri, 24 April 2020, 21:35:09
- original replacement looks much better. the top right option is okay but doesn't look better than kyuu or 910
- prefer the "Think" badge to others. this is much elegant
- 2020 text is okay but the font may be improved, while it's a fat font
- the biggest part I am not in is the design of top and bottom side. R1 is so elegant and minimalistic, but this one is so complicated and with many lines
Post by: Auxoworks on Fri, 24 April 2020, 21:35:32
Looks great, though!
Post by: TheMegaSean on Fri, 24 April 2020, 21:38:48
Post by: TheMegaSean on Fri, 24 April 2020, 21:41:52
Post by: QQuanQuan on Fri, 24 April 2020, 21:44:29
1.Original badge place is wonderful enough, actually I think the original place is one of the lightspots of your design. There are already so many other boards have badges at top wright such as key65.
2.PC PLZ!!!!
3.Would you please add an PC weight choice? So someone can make it a perfect portable board.
Anyway I am gonna get one for myself. Good luck!
Post by: akyp11 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 21:47:47
Edit: Also frosted PC case/plate please.
Post by: edctog on Fri, 24 April 2020, 22:07:15
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 24 April 2020, 22:07:30
I just got home and will read each comment and suggestion soon.
Since it is still in the prototyping stage, I will certainly consider your feedback in shaping how the project will move forward. Some designs may be final but there is room for fine tuning.
Post by: Tree_ on Fri, 24 April 2020, 22:11:15
Post by: FTR_Beat on Fri, 24 April 2020, 22:43:13
Thanks Everyone for the amazing feedback and support.
I just got home and will read each comment and suggestion soon.
Since it is still in the prototyping stage, I will certainly consider your feedback in shaping how the project will move forward. Some designs may be final but there is room for fine tuning.
What do you mean you just got back home? You are supposed to stay home lol =) got some good points in this thread.
Also, are you planning different color sets like the cybervoyager?
Post by: spaceshipdee on Fri, 24 April 2020, 22:48:25
I agree with the other posters though, the sail boat design isn't as good as the original "Think" theme.
Post by: nyankoclaws on Fri, 24 April 2020, 22:51:18
Post by: Vadurr on Fri, 24 April 2020, 23:01:42
-IF polycarb is an option, a bluetooth pcb would be extra sweet!
-Hotswap pcb with fixed split backspace pls :)
Post by: Jerbear233 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 23:04:09
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Fri, 24 April 2020, 23:07:39
Looks like many people like the top right badge, and let’s discuss more and make it a great badge
Post by: tunadesu on Fri, 24 April 2020, 23:27:11
Thanks Everyone for the amazing feedback and support.
I just got home and will read each comment and suggestion soon.
Since it is still in the prototyping stage, I will certainly consider your feedback in shaping how the project will move forward. Some designs may be final but there is room for fine tuning.
Joined and really respected how you handled R1. If anyone followed the R1 IC thread, you can see the community making suggestions and OP not only listened, but implemented quite a few!
Post by: Jupark on Fri, 24 April 2020, 23:28:51
Also, if black PC is available, it’d be an instabuy for me.
Post by: super7manki on Fri, 24 April 2020, 23:32:13
Good job bro! It’s always great working with you.Is there any chance for full brass dream this time? :( I don't need that shiny pvd brass, sandblasted or even raw is totally okayy :(
Looks like many people like the top right badge, and let’s discuss more and make it a great badge
Post by: Anaes on Fri, 24 April 2020, 23:50:47
top right or middle right both fine
Post by: Hanabi on Fri, 24 April 2020, 23:56:21
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 00:02:01
Good job bro! It’s always great working with you.Is there any chance for full brass dream this time? :( I don't need that shiny pvd brass, sandblasted or even raw is totally okayy :(
Looks like many people like the top right badge, and let’s discuss more and make it a great badge
To be honest with you, when I hear full brass I feel so so bad for most of the R1 full brass buyers who ended up being refunded and I don't even want to think about brass. PVD was indeed the big issue that led to QC fail, but I personally doubt people will really be interested in full brass without a proper surface treatment like PVD. In anyway, I will try to talk to AirPotter about this possibility. For a while, I was pretty sure he hated me for it. Will find the right time to mention this to him, but even if it does happen, 100% he won't agree to do PVD full brass.
Post by: SpringWind on Sat, 25 April 2020, 00:04:09
I personally prefer the R1 exterior than R2.
The structure improvements for better performance are nice, but the combination of "6.5", light bulb, and the unique badge layout is already great.
So I couldn't feel like such a drastic change to the emblem and name was necessary.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 00:09:17
Thanks Everyone for the amazing feedback and support.
I just got home and will read each comment and suggestion soon.
Since it is still in the prototyping stage, I will certainly consider your feedback in shaping how the project will move forward. Some designs may be final but there is room for fine tuning.
Joined and really respected how you handled R1. If anyone followed the R1 IC thread, you can see the community making suggestions and OP not only listened, but implemented quite a few!
Thanks for the kind words, bro.
Indeed, the goal of the IC is not just to gauge interest, but also to see what is the best way to move forward, and whether I can make adjustment where a) engineering side it's possible; and b) it does hopefully make the board objectively better. Sometimes aesthetics can be a tricky thing; for a board with quite a few design elements, it might be hard to satisfy everyone. And I hope friends can be tolerant with my taste. But I can say that the design is purposeful, not an afterthought nor random elements pieced together. At some point I would like to share my story for this design.
That said, more badge designs will come out soon, at least 4 in each badge position, maybe 5, so y'all can provide more feedback.
Post by: PotatoTM on Sat, 25 April 2020, 00:10:32
Post by: fabijolo on Sat, 25 April 2020, 00:41:18
+Alsow I'd love to see carbon fiber or POM plates with dampeners on, or even better; underneath them
Post by: baoduy23 on Sat, 25 April 2020, 01:46:14
Post by: hq on Sat, 25 April 2020, 02:16:36
Will there be a badgeless version?
+1 for badgeless option and dedicated ISO/ANSI plates :thumb:
Post by: buianhthang on Sat, 25 April 2020, 02:23:28
remove the anchor and boat and I am in.
They might want to change the keeb name to Boat65 :p
Anw, I still feel good about this design, looking for the final. Just keep the badge
Post by: 0pokn on Sat, 25 April 2020, 03:15:58
Post by: vaf1en on Sat, 25 April 2020, 03:35:32
This to say that I do not have strong feelings on the OG board other than I like it and it seems like a hit amongst the community.
It seems to me quite a few people are suggesting you more or less use the R1 design unchanged and instead offer different colour options and the ever popular polycarbonate edition.
I personally think it would be a mistake to abandon your design ideas/changes for R2; in other words, keep the anchor and the sailboat, they look pretty awesome in my opinion.
That may seem like a big/huge change from R1, but then call it something different, like 'Rethink6.5' if you want the brand recognition or maybe even call it 'Anchor6.5'. The '6.5' part in the name will likely still have people recognise it and tie it back to the 'Think6.5'.
Post by: ephemeral25 on Sat, 25 April 2020, 04:04:34
Good luck with the GB
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 04:26:55
Post by: BigBabyJesus on Sat, 25 April 2020, 05:04:01
1. I personally do not like this design. The original design is just much better.
2. This looks like something completely different with the new logo and shape of the board.
3. Why name it Think6.5 R2 if it's not the same? It would have been fine if you named it something else instead.
4. Why have a 2020 theme? Isn't it better for it to be timeless? I mean the first one is just timeless.
This is not just a complain. I have looked at the renders and they look amazing. It's just that this is not a true 'R2' if you ask me.
If this will be the final design, I will probably have to pass.
I have to say, I really like what you guys are doing. You're awesome and also very social on Instagram etc.. I almost joined the GB for the SPACE65:CyberVoyager but you guys were talking about a Think6.5 R2 so I thought I'd just wait for that.
Cheers
Post by: cnex on Sat, 25 April 2020, 06:40:16
Post by: AfroMax on Sat, 25 April 2020, 07:12:42
Post by: Vyndem on Sat, 25 April 2020, 07:32:23
Let's pray that there will also be a polycarbonate version for this one.
Post by: Little4Real on Sat, 25 April 2020, 07:53:18
Post by: BubbleheadBrett on Sat, 25 April 2020, 09:04:10
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 25 April 2020, 09:10:30
Post by: arkze on Sat, 25 April 2020, 09:32:20
I think it's just more confusion then displeasure. Most people hoping for a round 2 are hoping for improvements on a known design. The only similarities this shares with the OG is that it has badges and is a 65, haha.This. I was hoping for a real R2 and not completely new design that lacks any resemblance and tries to ride the wave that think6.5 created. Either real Think6.5 R2 or different name.
Post by: MadsMe on Sat, 25 April 2020, 10:38:55
IMO I don't like the "2020" text. The board should keep a timeless look.
I agree 100!. It's a little wierd.
That being said though I love the little extra "cut" on the case it self where the bagde is.
Can't make up my mind as to which layout I like the most. They both look good. I love how you integrate light into the bagdes though!
Post by: mongoose27 on Sat, 25 April 2020, 10:44:38
Also agree with the "2020" in logo, should keep the badge timeless and unique to the Think6.5.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 14:24:55
For the weight design, I had received quite some feedback to redesign the weight from R1 actually. Note the anchor resembles a 'T' when you look at it.
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sat, 25 April 2020, 14:27:09
Do have badges that look closer to R1 will share soon.
For the weight, I thought one of the biggest complaints had been weight design the R1 feedback I had received, now it appears many seemed to like it somehow.
That's how it always is, we complain about it at first but then when someone says they'll change it we cry foul. lol we are so fickle. :p
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 14:31:19
Do have badges that look closer to R1 will share soon.
For the weight, I thought one of the biggest complaints had been weight design the R1 feedback I had received, now it appears many seemed to like it somehow.
That's how it always is, we complain about it at first but then when someone says they'll change it we cry foul. lol we are so fickle. :p
At least I have badges to salvage the love for OG elements! I am still working on improving the badge and really hope OG lovers will find it pleasing.
The final anchor weight design actually took me quite a while to optimize, it will be a bit hard for me to toss it.
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sat, 25 April 2020, 15:04:31
Do have badges that look closer to R1 will share soon.
For the weight, I thought one of the biggest complaints had been weight design the R1 feedback I had received, now it appears many seemed to like it somehow.
That's how it always is, we complain about it at first but then when someone says they'll change it we cry foul. lol we are so fickle. :p
At least I have badges to salvage the love for OG elements! I am still working on improving the badge and really hope OG lovers will find it pleasing.
The final anchor weight design actually took me quite a while to optimize, it will be a bit hard for me to toss it.
I actually quite like the anchor weight, I am a big fan or running boards again but I like it when they are changed up a bit somewhat in a way of saying this was the second Think 6.5. I especially love the nautical theme, a polycarbonate Think 6.5 with navy blue or dark green anchor weight would be beautiful. I said previously that the top corner weight would be best but looking at it over and over the old placement is what makes it the Think and even if this is version 2 it should still feel like a Think.
Have you considered making the front badge an anchor as well? Just a badge with an anchor on it I think that would look nice.
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 25 April 2020, 15:09:03
Post by: Vyndem on Sat, 25 April 2020, 15:18:20
The anchor could stand for a lot of things, have multiple different meanings apart from it being compared to a boat.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 15:33:59
Do have badges that look closer to R1 will share soon.
For the weight, I thought one of the biggest complaints had been weight design the R1 feedback I had received, now it appears many seemed to like it somehow.
That's how it always is, we complain about it at first but then when someone says they'll change it we cry foul. lol we are so fickle. :p
At least I have badges to salvage the love for OG elements! I am still working on improving the badge and really hope OG lovers will find it pleasing.
The final anchor weight design actually took me quite a while to optimize, it will be a bit hard for me to toss it.
I actually quite like the anchor weight, I am a big fan or running boards again but I like it when they are changed up a bit somewhat in a way of saying this was the second Think 6.5. I especially love the nautical theme, a polycarbonate Think 6.5 with navy blue or dark green anchor weight would be beautiful. I said previously that the top corner weight would be best but looking at it over and over the old placement is what makes it the Think and even if this is version 2 it should still feel like a Think.
Have you considered making the front badge an anchor as well? Just a badge with an anchor on it I think that would look nice.
Thanks for the feedback, definitely something to try (anchor badge). The question is where we make the light shine through
Post by: FTR_Beat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 15:49:53
Do have badges that look closer to R1 will share soon.
For the weight, I thought one of the biggest complaints had been weight design the R1 feedback I had received, now it appears many seemed to like it somehow.
That's how it always is, we complain about it at first but then when someone says they'll change it we cry foul. lol we are so fickle. :p
At least I have badges to salvage the love for OG elements! I am still working on improving the badge and really hope OG lovers will find it pleasing.
The final anchor weight design actually took me quite a while to optimize, it will be a bit hard for me to toss it.
I actually quite like the anchor weight, I am a big fan or running boards again but I like it when they are changed up a bit somewhat in a way of saying this was the second Think 6.5. I especially love the nautical theme, a polycarbonate Think 6.5 with navy blue or dark green anchor weight would be beautiful. I said previously that the top corner weight would be best but looking at it over and over the old placement is what makes it the Think and even if this is version 2 it should still feel like a Think.
Have you considered making the front badge an anchor as well? Just a badge with an anchor on it I think that would look nice.
Thanks for the feedback, definitely something to try (anchor badge). The question is where we make the light shine through
If you are talking about the anchor, how about all around the line edges in and out (as lines not all filling space) of the anchor as well the upper drawing contour? Or through the actual anchor and upper design line?
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sat, 25 April 2020, 16:00:50
Do have badges that look closer to R1 will share soon.
For the weight, I thought one of the biggest complaints had been weight design the R1 feedback I had received, now it appears many seemed to like it somehow.
That's how it always is, we complain about it at first but then when someone says they'll change it we cry foul. lol we are so fickle. :p
At least I have badges to salvage the love for OG elements! I am still working on improving the badge and really hope OG lovers will find it pleasing.
The final anchor weight design actually took me quite a while to optimize, it will be a bit hard for me to toss it.
I actually quite like the anchor weight, I am a big fan or running boards again but I like it when they are changed up a bit somewhat in a way of saying this was the second Think 6.5. I especially love the nautical theme, a polycarbonate Think 6.5 with navy blue or dark green anchor weight would be beautiful. I said previously that the top corner weight would be best but looking at it over and over the old placement is what makes it the Think and even if this is version 2 it should still feel like a Think.
Have you considered making the front badge an anchor as well? Just a badge with an anchor on it I think that would look nice.
Thanks for the feedback, definitely something to try (anchor badge). The question is where we make the light shine through
Does the light have to shine through the badge? I joined this hobby too late for the original Think, but from what I have seen the light on the badge area was above it. Maybe something similar in this case? Another possibility would be to make a two piece badge one where you make the outer casing of the badge out of brass or another metal and the an interior section made out of a diffusion material of some sort, and follow along with what FTR_Beat said, light the edges of the anchor or whatever icon is on the badge. With a diffuser the light would be spread more evenly throughout the badge and would not appear as harsh.
Post by: jayiskuhl on Sat, 25 April 2020, 16:08:28
Post by: erickeyboard on Sat, 25 April 2020, 16:53:33
Will there be a badgeless version?
+1 for badgeless option and dedicated ISO/ANSI plates :thumb:
+1 for badgeless version again :)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 17:31:15
Do have badges that look closer to R1 will share soon.
For the weight, I thought one of the biggest complaints had been weight design the R1 feedback I had received, now it appears many seemed to like it somehow.
That's how it always is, we complain about it at first but then when someone says they'll change it we cry foul. lol we are so fickle. :p
At least I have badges to salvage the love for OG elements! I am still working on improving the badge and really hope OG lovers will find it pleasing.
The final anchor weight design actually took me quite a while to optimize, it will be a bit hard for me to toss it.
I actually quite like the anchor weight, I am a big fan or running boards again but I like it when they are changed up a bit somewhat in a way of saying this was the second Think 6.5. I especially love the nautical theme, a polycarbonate Think 6.5 with navy blue or dark green anchor weight would be beautiful. I said previously that the top corner weight would be best but looking at it over and over the old placement is what makes it the Think and even if this is version 2 it should still feel like a Think.
Have you considered making the front badge an anchor as well? Just a badge with an anchor on it I think that would look nice.
Thanks for the feedback, definitely something to try (anchor badge). The question is where we make the light shine through
Does the light have to shine through the badge? I joined this hobby too late for the original Think, but from what I have seen the light on the badge area was above it. Maybe something similar in this case? Another possibility would be to make a two piece badge one where you make the outer casing of the badge out of brass or another metal and the an interior section made out of a diffusion material of some sort, and follow along with what FTR_Beat said, light the edges of the anchor or whatever icon is on the badge. With a diffuser the light would be spread more evenly throughout the badge and would not appear as harsh.
Under the badge there is either one (1U) or 2 (2U) pieces of diffusers.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 17:47:13
OG badge placement, but Tsangan bottom PLEASE!!!
The plate will be very close to R1's soldering version in terms of compatibility
Like your profile pic!
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sat, 25 April 2020, 17:49:25
Do have badges that look closer to R1 will share soon.
For the weight, I thought one of the biggest complaints had been weight design the R1 feedback I had received, now it appears many seemed to like it somehow.
That's how it always is, we complain about it at first but then when someone says they'll change it we cry foul. lol we are so fickle. :p
At least I have badges to salvage the love for OG elements! I am still working on improving the badge and really hope OG lovers will find it pleasing.
The final anchor weight design actually took me quite a while to optimize, it will be a bit hard for me to toss it.
I actually quite like the anchor weight, I am a big fan or running boards again but I like it when they are changed up a bit somewhat in a way of saying this was the second Think 6.5. I especially love the nautical theme, a polycarbonate Think 6.5 with navy blue or dark green anchor weight would be beautiful. I said previously that the top corner weight would be best but looking at it over and over the old placement is what makes it the Think and even if this is version 2 it should still feel like a Think.
Have you considered making the front badge an anchor as well? Just a badge with an anchor on it I think that would look nice.
Thanks for the feedback, definitely something to try (anchor badge). The question is where we make the light shine through
Does the light have to shine through the badge? I joined this hobby too late for the original Think, but from what I have seen the light on the badge area was above it. Maybe something similar in this case? Another possibility would be to make a two piece badge one where you make the outer casing of the badge out of brass or another metal and the an interior section made out of a diffusion material of some sort, and follow along with what FTR_Beat said, light the edges of the anchor or whatever icon is on the badge. With a diffuser the light would be spread more evenly throughout the badge and would not appear as harsh.
Under the badge there is either one (1U) or 2 (2U) pieces of diffusers.
Ahhhh that was something I did not know. What would be the current idea for light to shine through? Is it just underneath the badge or are there cutouts on the badge?
Please offer polycarbonate, I need an endgame 65% polycarbonate board. :thumb:
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 17:50:01
1. Mounting: Gasket-mount. Designed a new type of gasket design that I am personally very excited about (more details to come)
2. Badge position: Designed two versions with different badge positions. Top right and OG position. More details on the locking systems to come. For now please let me know which position you want to be in production. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
3. Badge designs: Designed and will make prototypes for 5-6 badges, will choose 1 or 2 to be used in the production version. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
4. Case material: TBD. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
5. Plate material: TBD. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
6. Price: TBD.
7. GB Format and Qty Limit: TBD. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
8. Timeframe: prototyping is in progress.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 17:53:16
Do have badges that look closer to R1 will share soon.
For the weight, I thought one of the biggest complaints had been weight design the R1 feedback I had received, now it appears many seemed to like it somehow.
That's how it always is, we complain about it at first but then when someone says they'll change it we cry foul. lol we are so fickle. :p
At least I have badges to salvage the love for OG elements! I am still working on improving the badge and really hope OG lovers will find it pleasing.
The final anchor weight design actually took me quite a while to optimize, it will be a bit hard for me to toss it.
I actually quite like the anchor weight, I am a big fan or running boards again but I like it when they are changed up a bit somewhat in a way of saying this was the second Think 6.5. I especially love the nautical theme, a polycarbonate Think 6.5 with navy blue or dark green anchor weight would be beautiful. I said previously that the top corner weight would be best but looking at it over and over the old placement is what makes it the Think and even if this is version 2 it should still feel like a Think.
Have you considered making the front badge an anchor as well? Just a badge with an anchor on it I think that would look nice.
Thanks for the feedback, definitely something to try (anchor badge). The question is where we make the light shine through
Does the light have to shine through the badge? I joined this hobby too late for the original Think, but from what I have seen the light on the badge area was above it. Maybe something similar in this case? Another possibility would be to make a two piece badge one where you make the outer casing of the badge out of brass or another metal and the an interior section made out of a diffusion material of some sort, and follow along with what FTR_Beat said, light the edges of the anchor or whatever icon is on the badge. With a diffuser the light would be spread more evenly throughout the badge and would not appear as harsh.
Under the badge there is either one (1U) or 2 (2U) pieces of diffusers.
Ahhhh that was something I did not know. What would be the current idea for light to shine through? Is it just underneath the badge or are there cutouts on the badge?
Please offer polycarbonate, I need an endgame 65% polycarbonate board. :thumb:
The light will shine from under the diffuser (LEDs on PCB), and through cutouts on the badge (e.g., tungsten wire of a lightbulb)
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sat, 25 April 2020, 18:01:41
Do have badges that look closer to R1 will share soon.
For the weight, I thought one of the biggest complaints had been weight design the R1 feedback I had received, now it appears many seemed to like it somehow.
That's how it always is, we complain about it at first but then when someone says they'll change it we cry foul. lol we are so fickle. :p
At least I have badges to salvage the love for OG elements! I am still working on improving the badge and really hope OG lovers will find it pleasing.
The final anchor weight design actually took me quite a while to optimize, it will be a bit hard for me to toss it.
I actually quite like the anchor weight, I am a big fan or running boards again but I like it when they are changed up a bit somewhat in a way of saying this was the second Think 6.5. I especially love the nautical theme, a polycarbonate Think 6.5 with navy blue or dark green anchor weight would be beautiful. I said previously that the top corner weight would be best but looking at it over and over the old placement is what makes it the Think and even if this is version 2 it should still feel like a Think.
Have you considered making the front badge an anchor as well? Just a badge with an anchor on it I think that would look nice.
Thanks for the feedback, definitely something to try (anchor badge). The question is where we make the light shine through
Does the light have to shine through the badge? I joined this hobby too late for the original Think, but from what I have seen the light on the badge area was above it. Maybe something similar in this case? Another possibility would be to make a two piece badge one where you make the outer casing of the badge out of brass or another metal and the an interior section made out of a diffusion material of some sort, and follow along with what FTR_Beat said, light the edges of the anchor or whatever icon is on the badge. With a diffuser the light would be spread more evenly throughout the badge and would not appear as harsh.
Under the badge there is either one (1U) or 2 (2U) pieces of diffusers.
Ahhhh that was something I did not know. What would be the current idea for light to shine through? Is it just underneath the badge or are there cutouts on the badge?
Please offer polycarbonate, I need an endgame 65% polycarbonate board. :thumb:
The light will shine from under the diffuser (LEDs on PCB), and through cutouts on the badge (e.g., tungsten wire of a lightbulb)
That's all I needed to hear, that is what I was thinking about and is a really nice idea. That tungsten wire of the bulb is such a cool one.
Updating more details:4. Polycarbonate
1. Mounting: Gasket-mount. Designed a new type of gasket design that I am personally very excited about (more details to come)
2. Badge position: Designed two versions with different badge positions. Top right and OG position. More details on the locking systems to come. For now please let me know which position you want to be in production. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
3. Badge designs: Designed and will make prototypes for 5-6 badges, will choose 1 or 2 to be used in the production version. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
4. Case material: TBD. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
5. Plate material: TBD. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
6. Price: TBD.
7. GB Format and Qty Limit: TBD. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
8. Timeframe: prototyping is in progress.
5. Polycarbonate
6. Poly..... ;D
Thanks you for putting up with and entertaining all my inquiries. I will be keeping track of this IC as this board is something I really want to get.
Post by: Frankie_wan_Kenobi on Sat, 25 April 2020, 18:27:13
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:12:57
There is always some sort of story behind a purposeful design, I like reading those stories with I join a Group Buy, but this time I was a bit hesitant in sharing the story as it can sound a bit corny. Now I feel it is important that I share why I made the choices, given the divergent opinions on the 'drastically different looking board' here being discussed. I do believe everyone has provided a lot of value in their feedback, and I am sure some will be taken into account as I keep finetuning things. Some of the comments are confirming my prior beliefs about some additional changes. As I am not in a hurry to run a Group Buy given CyberVoyager production is in progress, more feedback sparks more thinking, and is always beneficial to the board design as well as future owners of the board.
With the preamble out of the way, here are mainly two rationales behind this design choice.
First, I have no intention of replicating Think6.5 R1 because it is not fun and not challenging as an enthusiast. Further, I do not participate in the group buy profit sharing and replication of Think6.5 R1 will not make sense for me. Therefore, the question is, do I change the design elements for R2, or keep the design elements and just modify the structure (to gasket)? I opt for a refreshing design that has the potential to be aesthetically more pleasing than the R1 design.
Second, back to the meaning of the design. It was not meant to be a "nautical" theme. In a literal sense, it is nautical; yet at a higher level, the thinking process has little to do with nautical. To start off, I already had a replicated design last year for R2 based on the R1 design with a new gasket structure added. But as I pick up the project now, I want to divert from the original design to add elements that are more meaningful for 2020. The anchor came from my wife's idea of "refuse to sink," as the world is sinking to some extent; and then the sailboat and compass are lucky icons in many cultures that symbolize peace and success in life, be it the status quo or your new adventures. And the symbolic value is that I hope everyone's life will anchor in a safe haven. In terms of the design, the anchor is made to shape like a "T" in Think, and I have designed other original Think elements (e.g., lightbulb badge) that are not yet shown here. To be honest, I feel 2020 is a special year and it may never get old. But I do consider removing 2020 from the 2U badge. With all the above said, the overall design flavor is actually very close to Think6.5 (same angle, similar chamfers, and trying to be a good looking minimalist design).
In anyway, this design story is not intended to change your opinion of the design. Aesthetics can be a tricky thing, particularly design elements that pop out visually. So apparently this sequel to Think6.5 will not be in everyone's taste. But with me sharing the context and design thinking process, at least you are aware that these are not random elements placed together. And as more badges are released and some are perhaps modified, I hope they will at least salvage some friends' love for the original Think6.5.
Lastly, quite a few people DM'd to ask me about whether I have any plan to do a replication of Think6.5 R1 version as a group buy. Regretfully, I will not. As I mentioned above, I am not interested in running the same GB twice, particularly as I am not participating on the financial side (e.g., profit-sharing) of the Group Buys. I am happy enough and grateful that AirPotter and Gray Studio help me materialize my design visions into actual products. I have released all my parts of the copyright of Original Think6.5 to AirPotter so it is up to him if he chooses to run in the future.
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:17:11
Don't get me wrong. I love the elements, and the thought process. I even like the nautical theme, and accents. I just think new name and new board could have freed up your design chops. Now your constantly going to have to justify why everything changed in R2. Shoot. I'd still change the name now if I were you. Lol. Would avoid so much confusion and requests to recreate a board you set out not to recreate.
Post by: Vyndem on Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:22:30
Updating more details:
1. Mounting: Gasket-mount. Designed a new type of gasket design that I am personally very excited about (more details to come)
2. Badge position: Designed two versions with different badge positions. Top right and OG position. More details on the locking systems to come. For now please let me know which position you want to be in production. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
3. Badge designs: Designed and will make prototypes for 5-6 badges, will choose 1 or 2 to be used in the production version. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
4. Case material: TBD. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
5. Plate material: TBD. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
6. Price: TBD.
7. GB Format and Qty Limit: TBD. Feedback/suggestions welcome.
8. Timeframe: prototyping is in progress.
2. OG Position
4. Polycarbonate
5. Polycarbonate
7. Would love a GB with enough quantity so I can def get in on this ;P
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:24:19
I guess my question to 1, and a solution for the confusion of 2, would be, why not just change the name. New design. New story. New badge. New symbols. Etc. New name and you could have explored all this without getting requests to change things back to Think6.5.
Don't get me wrong. I love the elements, and the thought process. I even like the nautical theme, and accents. I just think new name and new board could have freed up your design chops. Now your constantly going to have to justify why everything changed in R2. Shoot. I'd still change the name now if I were you. Lol.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate it very much. Mostly because I do not have plans to design any new boards as I get increasingly busy. Given the similarity, it will just be easier to call it Think6.5 sequel. When you see the other badge you will probably agree it is still a Think.
Of course, designing aside, I will still be an enthusiastic buyer of 65% boards :)
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:29:23
Haha. Understood. Designers choice. If it's your last design for a while I would have went with OutToSea6.5 or BonVoyage6.5 or FairWeather6.5. I mean I know the new icons will tie it back to think. Just wondering why you'd want to. The main similarity appears to be that it's just a 65 board at this point. Haha.I guess my question to 1, and a solution for the confusion of 2, would be, why not just change the name. New design. New story. New badge. New symbols. Etc. New name and you could have explored all this without getting requests to change things back to Think6.5.
Don't get me wrong. I love the elements, and the thought process. I even like the nautical theme, and accents. I just think new name and new board could have freed up your design chops. Now your constantly going to have to justify why everything changed in R2. Shoot. I'd still change the name now if I were you. Lol.
Mostly because I do not have plans to design any new boards as I get increasingly busy. Given the similarity, it will just be easier to call it Think6.5 sequel. When you see the other badge you will probably agree it is still a Think.
Of course, designing aside, I will still be an enthusiastic buyer of 65% boards if anyone presents compelling designs :)
But I wish you luck in the GB and the endeavor. Depending how things shake out I still might be on board for this ride. Haha
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:49:30
The story behind the design choices: Why do I choose anchor, sailboat, and compass to replace the gear and lightbulb?
There is always some sort of story behind a purposeful design, I like reading those stories with I join a Group Buy, but this time I was a bit hesitant in sharing the story as it can sound a bit corny. Now I feel it is important that I share why I made the choices, given the divergent opinions on the 'drastically different looking board' here being discussed. I do believe everyone has provided a lot of value in their feedback, and I am sure some will be taken into account as I keep finetuning things. Some of the comments are confirming my prior beliefs about some additional changes. As I am not in a hurry to run a Group Buy given CyberVoyager production is in progress, more feedback sparks more thinking, and is always beneficial to the board design as well as future owners of the board.
With the preamble out of the way, here are mainly two rationales behind this design choice.
First, I have no intention of replicating Think6.5 R1 because it is not fun and not challenging as an enthusiast. Further, I do not participate in the group buy profit sharing and replication of Think6.5 R1 will not make sense for me. Therefore, the question is, do I change the design elements for R2, or keep the design elements and just modify the structure (to gasket)? I opt for a refreshing design that has the potential to be aesthetically more pleasing than the R1 design.
Second, back to the meaning of the design. It was not meant to be a "nautical" theme. In a literal sense, it is nautical; yet at a higher level, the thinking process has little to do with nautical. To start off, I already had a replicated design last year for R2 based on the R1 design with a new gasket structure added. But as I pick up the project now, I want to divert from the original design to add elements that are more meaningful for 2020. The anchor came from my wife's idea of "refuse to sink," as the world is sinking to some extent; and then the sailboat and compass are lucky icons in many cultures that symbolize peace and success in life, be it the status quo or your new adventures. And the symbolic value is that I hope everyone's life will anchor in a safe haven. In terms of the design, the anchor is made to shape like a "T" in Think, and I have designed other original Think elements (e.g., lightbulb badge) that are not yet shown here. To be honest, I feel 2020 is a special year and it may never get old. But I do consider removing 2020 from the 2U badge. With all the above said, the overall design flavor is actually very close to Think6.5 (same angle, similar chamfers, and trying to be a good looking minimalist design).
In anyway, this design story is not intended to change your opinion of the design. Aesthetics can be a tricky thing, particularly design elements that pop out visually. So apparently this sequel to Think6.5 will not be in everyone's taste. But with me sharing the context and design thinking process, at least you are aware that these are not random elements placed together. And as more badges are released and some are perhaps modified, I hope they will at least salvage some friends' love for the original Think6.5.
Lastly, quite a few people DM'd to ask me about whether I have any plan to do a replication of Think6.5 R1 version as a group buy. Regretfully, I will not. As I mentioned above, I am not interested in running the same GB twice, particularly as I am not participating on the financial side (e.g., profit-sharing) of the Group Buys. I am happy enough and grateful that AirPotter and Gray Studio help me materialize my design visions into actual products. I have released all my parts of the copyright of Original Think6.5 to AirPotter so it is up to him if he chooses to run in the future.
I already liked the theme but now I am definitely behind it. Like mentioned previously I am here for the ride the new mounting system looks cool. :thumb:
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:56:32
Haha. Understood. Designers choice. If it's your last design for a while I would have went with OutToSea6.5 or BonVoyage6.5 or FairWeather6.5. I mean I know the new icons will tie it back to think. Just wondering why you'd want to. The main similarity appears to be that it's just a 65 board at this point. Haha.I guess my question to 1, and a solution for the confusion of 2, would be, why not just change the name. New design. New story. New badge. New symbols. Etc. New name and you could have explored all this without getting requests to change things back to Think6.5.
Don't get me wrong. I love the elements, and the thought process. I even like the nautical theme, and accents. I just think new name and new board could have freed up your design chops. Now your constantly going to have to justify why everything changed in R2. Shoot. I'd still change the name now if I were you. Lol.
Mostly because I do not have plans to design any new boards as I get increasingly busy. Given the similarity, it will just be easier to call it Think6.5 sequel. When you see the other badge you will probably agree it is still a Think.
Of course, designing aside, I will still be an enthusiastic buyer of 65% boards if anyone presents compelling designs :)
But I wish you luck in the GB and the endeavor. Depending how things shake out I still might be on board for this ride. Haha
I did think about BonVoyage. Potter said it’s too close to CyberVoyager :)
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 25 April 2020, 20:02:12
Haha. That's too funny. Too bad. Would have been a tight name.Haha. Understood. Designers choice. If it's your last design for a while I would have went with OutToSea6.5 or BonVoyage6.5 or FairWeather6.5. I mean I know the new icons will tie it back to think. Just wondering why you'd want to. The main similarity appears to be that it's just a 65 board at this point. Haha.I guess my question to 1, and a solution for the confusion of 2, would be, why not just change the name. New design. New story. New badge. New symbols. Etc. New name and you could have explored all this without getting requests to change things back to Think6.5.
Don't get me wrong. I love the elements, and the thought process. I even like the nautical theme, and accents. I just think new name and new board could have freed up your design chops. Now your constantly going to have to justify why everything changed in R2. Shoot. I'd still change the name now if I were you. Lol.
Mostly because I do not have plans to design any new boards as I get increasingly busy. Given the similarity, it will just be easier to call it Think6.5 sequel. When you see the other badge you will probably agree it is still a Think.
Of course, designing aside, I will still be an enthusiastic buyer of 65% boards if anyone presents compelling designs :)
But I wish you luck in the GB and the endeavor. Depending how things shake out I still might be on board for this ride. Haha
I did think about BonVoyage. Potter said it’s too close to CyberVoyager :)
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sat, 25 April 2020, 20:02:39
Post by: StanleyLelnats on Sat, 25 April 2020, 20:45:51
Post by: Zeelobby on Sat, 25 April 2020, 20:47:01
Not trying to be pedantic or anything but isn't having an anchor representing "Refusing to sink" a bit of a contradiction?
Stopping to sink? I think maybe the idea is that the keyboard is a boat?
Post by: Tree_ on Sat, 25 April 2020, 20:49:15
The story behind the design choices: Why do I choose anchor, sailboat, and compass to replace the gear and lightbulb?
There is always some sort of story behind a purposeful design, I like reading those stories with I join a Group Buy, but this time I was a bit hesitant in sharing the story as it can sound a bit corny. Now I feel it is important that I share why I made the choices, given the divergent opinions on the 'drastically different looking board' here being discussed. I do believe everyone has provided a lot of value in their feedback, and I am sure some will be taken into account as I keep finetuning things. Some of the comments are confirming my prior beliefs about some additional changes. As I am not in a hurry to run a Group Buy given CyberVoyager production is in progress, more feedback sparks more thinking, and is always beneficial to the board design as well as future owners of the board.
With the preamble out of the way, here are mainly two rationales behind this design choice.
First, I have no intention of replicating Think6.5 R1 because it is not fun and not challenging as an enthusiast. Further, I do not participate in the group buy profit sharing and replication of Think6.5 R1 will not make sense for me. Therefore, the question is, do I change the design elements for R2, or keep the design elements and just modify the structure (to gasket)? I opt for a refreshing design that has the potential to be aesthetically more pleasing than the R1 design.
Second, back to the meaning of the design. It was not meant to be a "nautical" theme. In a literal sense, it is nautical; yet at a higher level, the thinking process has little to do with nautical. To start off, I already had a replicated design last year for R2 based on the R1 design with a new gasket structure added. But as I pick up the project now, I want to divert from the original design to add elements that are more meaningful for 2020. The anchor came from my wife's idea of "refuse to sink," as the world is sinking to some extent; and then the sailboat and compass are lucky icons in many cultures that symbolize peace and success in life, be it the status quo or your new adventures. And the symbolic value is that I hope everyone's life will anchor in a safe haven. In terms of the design, the anchor is made to shape like a "T" in Think, and I have designed other original Think elements (e.g., lightbulb badge) that are not yet shown here. To be honest, I feel 2020 is a special year and it may never get old. But I do consider removing 2020 from the 2U badge. With all the above said, the overall design flavor is actually very close to Think6.5 (same angle, similar chamfers, and trying to be a good looking minimalist design).
In anyway, this design story is not intended to change your opinion of the design. Aesthetics can be a tricky thing, particularly design elements that pop out visually. So apparently this sequel to Think6.5 will not be in everyone's taste. But with me sharing the context and design thinking process, at least you are aware that these are not random elements placed together. And as more badges are released and some are perhaps modified, I hope they will at least salvage some friends' love for the original Think6.5.
Lastly, quite a few people DM'd to ask me about whether I have any plan to do a replication of Think6.5 R1 version as a group buy. Regretfully, I will not. As I mentioned above, I am not interested in running the same GB twice, particularly as I am not participating on the financial side (e.g., profit-sharing) of the Group Buys. I am happy enough and grateful that AirPotter and Gray Studio help me materialize my design visions into actual products. I have released all my parts of the copyright of Original Think6.5 to AirPotter so it is up to him if he chooses to run in the future.
In that case following the train of thought from other makers releases, shouldn't this be V2 instead of R2 given that this is a completely different board?
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sat, 25 April 2020, 20:57:10
Not trying to be pedantic or anything but isn't having an anchor representing "Refusing to sink" a bit of a contradiction?
Stopping to sink? I think maybe the idea is that the keyboard is a boat?
Yeah that was the train of thought I was following. Yeah of course an anchor sinks :p but I was looking at it from the perspective of riding out a storm and refusing to sink which is what I believe the intention of that quote was.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 21:59:08
Been waiting for this. That new badge placement looks gorgeous.
I think you should get crazy and do a beige version..
Potter is working on it actually, if it works out well it will be added to the Space65 Schrondinger pool and definitely we can consider the color for R2 Think
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 25 April 2020, 22:43:34
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Post by: woyaodapian on Sat, 25 April 2020, 22:52:07
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Post by: enjoidis on Sun, 26 April 2020, 00:08:20
Also, think the 2020 isn't needed
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 26 April 2020, 01:19:50
New badge position is definitely better! Will there be a gasket mount option?
It will be a gasket-mount design yes. More details on the specific gasket design later.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 26 April 2020, 03:19:19
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Post by: beekey on Sun, 26 April 2020, 03:29:53
Considering removing 2020 from both the bottom and the 2U badges, any thoughts?R.I.P. 2020, you will not be missed. ;)
Post by: beekey on Sun, 26 April 2020, 03:31:00
For the Think6.5 R2’s 2U badge size and position, which one do you like better? Top one or bottom one? Let us know!Bottom
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Post by: woyaodapian on Sun, 26 April 2020, 03:32:48
Post by: Vyndem on Sun, 26 April 2020, 03:41:38
For the Think6.5 R2’s 2U badge size and position, which one do you like better? Top one or bottom one? Let us know!
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I personally like the bottom one more. Although the top one gives you more room with design since it’s a little bigger, so this wouldn’t be a huge deal to me, both will work and look great in the end I’m sure.
Edit: The more I look at the top one the more I’m starting to like it.
Post by: Ultimatum on Sun, 26 April 2020, 04:18:33
For the Think6.5 R2’s 2U badge size and position, which one do you like better? Top one or bottom one? Let us know!
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Top!
Post by: TheMegaSean on Sun, 26 April 2020, 04:23:12
For the Think6.5 R2’s 2U badge size and position, which one do you like better? Top one or bottom one? Let us know!
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Both are nice. I prefer the bottom one.
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Post by: cadrev on Sun, 26 April 2020, 09:10:31
For the Think6.5 R2’s 2U badge size and position, which one do you like better? Top one or bottom one? Let us know!
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I like the top more, simply because I find the bottom one to have lots of negative space. Also is it possible to align the badges to the keys? It's kinda protruding a little bit outside the "imaginary" column between the arrow keys and the page up buttons. Not sure If I make sense hahaha
Post by: Vyndem on Sun, 26 April 2020, 09:59:43
For the Think6.5 R2’s 2U badge size and position, which one do you like better? Top one or bottom one? Let us know!
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I like the top more, simply because I find the bottom one to have lots of negative space. Also is it possible to align the badges to the keys? It's kinda protruding a little bit outside the "imaginary" column between the arrow keys and the page up buttons. Not sure If I make sense hahaha
Hmmm I think he did that on purpose so the badge would be in the center of that space, which I like. Also if he’d make the badge parallel with the arrows and page keys it would be pretty small in widht imo and it not being center might trigger my OCD haha :P
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 26 April 2020, 11:09:39
For the Think6.5 R2’s 2U badge size and position, which one do you like better? Top one or bottom one? Let us know!
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I like the top more, simply because I find the bottom one to have lots of negative space. Also is it possible to align the badges to the keys? It's kinda protruding a little bit outside the "imaginary" column between the arrow keys and the page up buttons. Not sure If I make sense hahaha
For the Think6.5 R2’s 2U badge size and position, which one do you like better? Top one or bottom one? Let us know!
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I like the top more, simply because I find the bottom one to have lots of negative space. Also is it possible to align the badges to the keys? It's kinda protruding a little bit outside the "imaginary" column between the arrow keys and the page up buttons. Not sure If I make sense hahaha
Hmmm I think he did that on purpose so the badge would be in the center of that space, which I like. Also if he’d make the badge parallel with the arrows and page keys it would be pretty small in widht imo and it not being center might trigger my OCD haha :P
Indeed with the specs of the board aligning the right edge of the badge to the keys will make the badge very small.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 26 April 2020, 11:54:18
The story behind the design choices: Why do I choose anchor, sailboat, and compass to replace the gear and lightbulb?
There is always some sort of story behind a purposeful design, I like reading those stories with I join a Group Buy, but this time I was a bit hesitant in sharing the story as it can sound a bit corny. Now I feel it is important that I share why I made the choices, given the divergent opinions on the 'drastically different looking board' here being discussed. I do believe everyone has provided a lot of value in their feedback, and I am sure some will be taken into account as I keep finetuning things. Some of the comments are confirming my prior beliefs about some additional changes. As I am not in a hurry to run a Group Buy given CyberVoyager production is in progress, more feedback sparks more thinking, and is always beneficial to the board design as well as future owners of the board.
With the preamble out of the way, here are mainly two rationales behind this design choice.
First, I have no intention of replicating Think6.5 R1 because it is not fun and not challenging as an enthusiast. Further, I do not participate in the group buy profit sharing and replication of Think6.5 R1 will not make sense for me. Therefore, the question is, do I change the design elements for R2, or keep the design elements and just modify the structure (to gasket)? I opt for a refreshing design that has the potential to be aesthetically more pleasing than the R1 design.
Second, back to the meaning of the design. It was not meant to be a "nautical" theme. In a literal sense, it is nautical; yet at a higher level, the thinking process has little to do with nautical. To start off, I already had a replicated design last year for R2 based on the R1 design with a new gasket structure added. But as I pick up the project now, I want to divert from the original design to add elements that are more meaningful for 2020. The anchor came from my wife's idea of "refuse to sink," as the world is sinking to some extent; and then the sailboat and compass are lucky icons in many cultures that symbolize peace and success in life, be it the status quo or your new adventures. And the symbolic value is that I hope everyone's life will anchor in a safe haven. In terms of the design, the anchor is made to shape like a "T" in Think, and I have designed other original Think elements (e.g., lightbulb badge) that are not yet shown here. To be honest, I feel 2020 is a special year and it may never get old. But I do consider removing 2020 from the 2U badge. With all the above said, the overall design flavor is actually very close to Think6.5 (same angle, similar chamfers, and trying to be a good looking minimalist design).
In anyway, this design story is not intended to change your opinion of the design. Aesthetics can be a tricky thing, particularly design elements that pop out visually. So apparently this sequel to Think6.5 will not be in everyone's taste. But with me sharing the context and design thinking process, at least you are aware that these are not random elements placed together. And as more badges are released and some are perhaps modified, I hope they will at least salvage some friends' love for the original Think6.5.
Lastly, quite a few people DM'd to ask me about whether I have any plan to do a replication of Think6.5 R1 version as a group buy. Regretfully, I will not. As I mentioned above, I am not interested in running the same GB twice, particularly as I am not participating on the financial side (e.g., profit-sharing) of the Group Buys. I am happy enough and grateful that AirPotter and Gray Studio help me materialize my design visions into actual products. I have released all my parts of the copyright of Original Think6.5 to AirPotter so it is up to him if he chooses to run in the future.
In that case following the train of thought from other makers releases, shouldn't this be V2 instead of R2 given that this is a completely different board?
For sure, V2 should be more accurate!
Post by: aclassynerd on Sun, 26 April 2020, 12:29:40
Post by: asianfork on Sun, 26 April 2020, 12:36:33
Post by: nettoxx7 on Sun, 26 April 2020, 12:38:14
Post by: of_sam on Sun, 26 April 2020, 12:40:01
Personally, I don't like the new weight/badge placement. So I would only be in if the badge placement is the same as the OG 6.5. I'd like to see the badges backwards compatible with the original think 6.5 badge as well. New weights and badges with different themes (not anchors) + gasket mount are all things I would love to see on the new board. :)
Post by: Uncle Drew on Sun, 26 April 2020, 14:03:04
Post by: Vaudevi77ain on Sun, 26 April 2020, 14:06:03
For the Think6.5 R2’s 2U badge size and position, which one do you like better? Top one or bottom one? Let us know!
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Top. The bottom one feels like it has wasted space, whereas the original top badge proportion feels like a more intentional design decision that fills out the area.
Looking forward to this release. My only feedback is that I'm not too wild about the nautical theme - I appreciate the story, but it seems a bit contradictory. It's a bit ironic to choose an anchor, whose purpose itself is to sink, for a message about "refusing to sink". :D
I'd personally prefer the original Think theme (with upgraded hardware design) if it were an option.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 26 April 2020, 14:18:43
I have a basic question: what colors of case do you expect? Just these two i mean white and grey i quess?
Thanks! Will have more color options, and possibly polycarbonate
Will Try to put together a poll for colors and material.
Post by: sdotlee on Sun, 26 April 2020, 14:36:40
Post by: Uncle Drew on Sun, 26 April 2020, 15:10:50
Post by: Vyndem on Sun, 26 April 2020, 15:26:47
Please please pleaseeeeeee offer PC as an option. I been dreaming about this board in PC :D
Yes, I need a polycarbonate version of this aswell.
Post by: jayiskuhl on Sun, 26 April 2020, 15:54:34
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 26 April 2020, 17:00:45
I prefer old badge location. Every other board out there is doing top-right. Old location was a great way to stand out from the crowd.
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A new render will be updated for the old badge location to remove the '2020' word and make it more similar to the OG badge size, given the voting results on Instagram and china group.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 26 April 2020, 18:16:27
There is a new section to track those changes. I will try to reflect on more feedback as I work through the changes. Note that I am not making random changes, I put up polls and quick feedback posts on Instagram to gather quantitative data. Your vote can make an impact on the fine-tuning of the design and how the GB will be run.
Geekhack IC Feedback Items to Incorporate:
1. Remove '2020' from the 2U Badge: working on
2. Remove '2020' engraving from the bottom: working on
3. Rename the sequel to "Think6.5 v2.0": adopted
4. Bring back the lightbulb to the badge design: working on
5. Reduce the size of the 2U badge: working on
6. Polycarbonate option: considering
7. Make an anchor badge: working on
Post by: Slayer77 on Sun, 26 April 2020, 18:24:21
Would love to see Neon green. If not possible at least badge and weight as shown in toxic render. And thanks for doing render on my request :)I have a basic question: what colors of case do you expect? Just these two i mean white and grey i quess?
Thanks! Will have more color options, and possibly polycarbonate
Will Try to put together a poll for colors and material.
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Post by: max_33 on Sun, 26 April 2020, 18:41:40
I do like the anchor more than the lightbulb, hopefully both options will be present.
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sun, 26 April 2020, 19:24:40
Man I am so excited for this!
I do like the anchor more than the lightbulb, hopefully both options will be present.
Thanks for your support and interest!
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sun, 26 April 2020, 19:39:11
In terms of the badge, I am personally in the ‘prefers no badge’ camp, but between the old side location and the new corner, I’d have to go with the side.
Post by: LVNDSCAPE on Sun, 26 April 2020, 20:35:34
Post by: Hanabi on Sun, 26 April 2020, 21:49:15
Post by: spinozsa on Sun, 26 April 2020, 21:52:36
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 26 April 2020, 23:33:36
Post by: Moridin on Mon, 27 April 2020, 00:59:45
Please consider this in the PCB design and make them all north-facing.
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Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 27 April 2020, 01:12:56
Oldcat, I absolutely love my Thinks. The e-yellow is my daily driver. It has two problems. One of the keys in the rightmost column and the Caps Lock key are oriented the other way, south instead of north-facing, which makes Cherry profile keys hit the switches on press.
Please consider this in the PCB design and make them all north-facing.
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Quoting because this seems extremely important.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 27 April 2020, 01:30:00
0.) USB-C. Idk if that was mentioned, but I feel like that is a must in 2020. For me at least.
1.)
1.) *EDIT* After looking through pics of Think v1, OG badge is growing on me, especially if multiple colors and buying multiple is an option. Swapping out badges for fun/to match keycap sets seems fun.
2.) Absolutely agree with removing '2020.' This is not shaping up to be a year anyone will want to remember / have their board associated with
3.) Polycarbonate (frosted) is my preference by an enormous margin; there are lots of aluminum options but far fewer PC options
4.) I've seen boards with brass plates under frosted polycarbonate, and I love that look. I don't have a huge preference for plate material, but I would very likely go with brass if offered (brass should be sealed or otherwise coated though)
5.) Please don't do split backspace unless it is in addition to normal backspace
6.) VIA compatibility would be an awesome PCB feature. It makes getting started with the hobby much easier (especially when combined with hotswap) and makes it easier to help people get started with the hobby (makes for an easier 'gateway' keyboard if you will)
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
8.) If hotswap is done, I would personally suggest something like an ANSI(-ish) layout for the hotswap and then a secondary standard PCB if demand for other layouts is high.
Thanks so much for bringing this back! I'm super excited for it, and am 100% in if frosted polycarbonate is an option! Hope you're healthy and safe, and thank you so much for the engagement with feedback!
Post by: woyaodapian on Mon, 27 April 2020, 01:57:50
My more well-composed thoughts after reading through all the other feedback:
0.) USB-C. Idk if that was mentioned, but I feel like that is a must in 2020. For me at least.
1.)Prefer badge-less, particularly if it means more keys. If there is a badge, prefer OG position
1.) *EDIT* After looking through pics of Think v1, OG badge is growing on me, especially if multiple colors and buying multiple is an option. Swapping out badges for fun/to match keycap sets seems fun.
2.) Absolutely agree with removing '2020.' This is not shaping up to be a year anyone will want to remember / have their board associated with
3.) Polycarbonate (frosted) is my preference by an enormous margin; there are lots of aluminum options but far fewer PC options
4.) I've seen boards with brass plates under frosted polycarbonate, and I love that look. I don't have a huge preference for plate material, but I would very likely go with brass if offered (brass should be sealed or otherwise coated though)
5.) Please don't do split backspace unless it is in addition to normal backspace
6.) VIA compatibility would be an awesome PCB feature. It makes getting started with the hobby much easier (especially when combined with hotswap) and makes it easier to help people get started with the hobby (makes for an easier 'gateway' keyboard if you will)
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
8.) If hotswap is done, I would personally suggest something like an ANSI(-ish) layout for the hotswap and then a secondary standard PCB if demand for other layouts is high.
Thanks so much for bringing this back! I'm super excited for it, and am 100% in if frosted polycarbonate is an option! Hope you're healthy and safe, and thank you so much for the engagement with feedback!
+1!
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 27 April 2020, 02:22:50
Post by: MadsMe on Mon, 27 April 2020, 03:04:44
Personally I think the boat would go very well with the anchor!
Post by: owltro on Mon, 27 April 2020, 03:08:39
Post by: Pynt on Mon, 27 April 2020, 04:03:43
Post by: dibkib on Mon, 27 April 2020, 07:44:58
I'm not particularly interested in a maritime theme, however, and I'd prefer the original badge (in its original place, not a fan of the top one) to any of the new ones offered. I also don't really like the anchor on the bottom of the board. I also really hope that rose gold is offered again, because it's so rare to find keyboards in the colourway. It also did not give me the option in the feedback form, but I'd be equally interested in grabbing a polycarb and aluminium boards.
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 27 April 2020, 08:41:32
Hey, Will be very interested if there is gonna be ISO support
+1
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 09:58:41
My more well-composed thoughts after reading through all the other feedback:
0.) USB-C. Idk if that was mentioned, but I feel like that is a must in 2020. For me at least.
1.)Prefer badge-less, particularly if it means more keys. If there is a badge, prefer OG position
1.) *EDIT* After looking through pics of Think v1, OG badge is growing on me, especially if multiple colors and buying multiple is an option. Swapping out badges for fun/to match keycap sets seems fun.
2.) Absolutely agree with removing '2020.' This is not shaping up to be a year anyone will want to remember / have their board associated with
3.) Polycarbonate (frosted) is my preference by an enormous margin; there are lots of aluminum options but far fewer PC options
4.) I've seen boards with brass plates under frosted polycarbonate, and I love that look. I don't have a huge preference for plate material, but I would very likely go with brass if offered (brass should be sealed or otherwise coated though)
5.) Please don't do split backspace unless it is in addition to normal backspace
6.) VIA compatibility would be an awesome PCB feature. It makes getting started with the hobby much easier (especially when combined with hotswap) and makes it easier to help people get started with the hobby (makes for an easier 'gateway' keyboard if you will)
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
8.) If hotswap is done, I would personally suggest something like an ANSI(-ish) layout for the hotswap and then a secondary standard PCB if demand for other layouts is high.
Thanks so much for bringing this back! I'm super excited for it, and am 100% in if frosted polycarbonate is an option! Hope you're healthy and safe, and thank you so much for the engagement with feedback!
Hey bro, thanks for the well thought out and well crafted feedback. Much appreciated. And here are some quick responses, certainly working on most of these:
0.) USB-C. Idk if that was mentioned, but I feel like that is a must in 2020. For me at least.
YES this is a must. USB-type C with C-A and C-C support, which has been done in the original Think6.5 already.
1.)
Unsure if I will do badgeless again, from the data perspective, there were not that many people choosing badgeless during the R1 Think6.5 GB, and adding a different top piece increases production costs significantly. If cost permits, I would like to offer 2 badge position options this time as opposed to having badgeless. Hope you understand.
1.) *EDIT* After looking through pics of Think v1, OG badge is growing on me, especially if multiple colors and buying multiple is an option. Swapping out badges for fun/to match keycap sets seems fun.
2.) Absolutely agree with removing '2020.' This is not shaping up to be a year anyone will want to remember / have their board associated with
This is being worked on. What is uncertain atm is if we add "Think" engraving to where 2020 is on the bottom, many friends seem to want Think engraving on the bottom.
3.) Polycarbonate (frosted) is my preference by an enormous margin; there are lots of aluminum options but far fewer PC options
Agreed, will certainly try to offer it. That being said, PC will be about 10% more costly to produce based on the R1 run.
4.) I've seen boards with brass plates under frosted polycarbonate, and I love that look. I don't have a huge preference for plate material, but I would very likely go with brass if offered (brass should be sealed or otherwise coated though)
I personally do not enjoy brass plate's feel or sound. We will find out about plate material as we move this project forward. I am thinking about PEEK, FR4 and some other softer but high quality plastic materials.
5.) Please don't do split backspace unless it is in addition to normal backspace
The plate will offer some conventional compatibility (ANSI, split BS, 7u space, ISO). So no worries there.
6.) VIA compatibility would be an awesome PCB feature. It makes getting started with the hobby much easier (especially when combined with hotswap) and makes it easier to help people get started with the hobby (makes for an easier 'gateway' keyboard if you will)
Thanks. I believe the community will probably work on VIA support, if not I will try to find a friend to help out with the programming. Unsure if I will consider this a "gateway" board. I plan to make it an endgame board actually. It is very unlikely we will see hotswap, mainly because hotswap doesn't work well with gasket mount design. And also production complexity and costs.
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
8.) If hotswap is done, I would personally suggest something like an ANSI(-ish) layout for the hotswap and then a secondary standard PCB if demand for other layouts is high.
R1 was an ANSI hotswap. It worked well because we have a 4.5mm thick plate. But now we change to gasket, hotswap will not work that well
Again, thanks for your feedback. And hoping this reply helps address some of your questions!
Post by: Slayer77 on Mon, 27 April 2020, 10:05:55
Would appreciate if hotswap is included, at least as an option at extra cost, I just can't decide on one switch.My more well-composed thoughts after reading through all the other feedback:
0.) USB-C. Idk if that was mentioned, but I feel like that is a must in 2020. For me at least.
1.)Prefer badge-less, particularly if it means more keys. If there is a badge, prefer OG position
1.) *EDIT* After looking through pics of Think v1, OG badge is growing on me, especially if multiple colors and buying multiple is an option. Swapping out badges for fun/to match keycap sets seems fun.
2.) Absolutely agree with removing '2020.' This is not shaping up to be a year anyone will want to remember / have their board associated with
3.) Polycarbonate (frosted) is my preference by an enormous margin; there are lots of aluminum options but far fewer PC options
4.) I've seen boards with brass plates under frosted polycarbonate, and I love that look. I don't have a huge preference for plate material, but I would very likely go with brass if offered (brass should be sealed or otherwise coated though)
5.) Please don't do split backspace unless it is in addition to normal backspace
6.) VIA compatibility would be an awesome PCB feature. It makes getting started with the hobby much easier (especially when combined with hotswap) and makes it easier to help people get started with the hobby (makes for an easier 'gateway' keyboard if you will)
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
8.) If hotswap is done, I would personally suggest something like an ANSI(-ish) layout for the hotswap and then a secondary standard PCB if demand for other layouts is high.
Thanks so much for bringing this back! I'm super excited for it, and am 100% in if frosted polycarbonate is an option! Hope you're healthy and safe, and thank you so much for the engagement with feedback!
Hey bro, thanks for the well thought out and well crafted feedback. Much appreciated. And here are some quick responses, certainly working on most of these:
0.) USB-C. Idk if that was mentioned, but I feel like that is a must in 2020. For me at least.
YES this is a must. USB-type C with C-A and C-C support, which has been done in the original Think6.5 already.
1.)Prefer badge-less, particularly if it means more keys. If there is a badge, prefer OG position
Unsure if I will do badgeless again, from the data perspective, there were not that many people choosing badgeless during the R1 Think6.5 GB, and adding a different top piece increases production costs significantly. If cost permits, I would like to offer 2 badge position options this time as opposed to having badgeless. Hope you understand.
1.) *EDIT* After looking through pics of Think v1, OG badge is growing on me, especially if multiple colors and buying multiple is an option. Swapping out badges for fun/to match keycap sets seems fun.
2.) Absolutely agree with removing '2020.' This is not shaping up to be a year anyone will want to remember / have their board associated with
This is being worked on. What is uncertain atm is if we add "Think" engraving to where 2020 is on the bottom, many friends seem to want Think engraving on the bottom.
3.) Polycarbonate (frosted) is my preference by an enormous margin; there are lots of aluminum options but far fewer PC options
Agreed, will certainly try to offer it. That being said, PC will be about 10% more costly to produce based on the R1 run.
4.) I've seen boards with brass plates under frosted polycarbonate, and I love that look. I don't have a huge preference for plate material, but I would very likely go with brass if offered (brass should be sealed or otherwise coated though)
I personally do not enjoy brass plate's feel or sound. We will find out about plate material as we move this project forward. I am thinking about PEEK, FR4 and some other softer but high quality plastic materials.
5.) Please don't do split backspace unless it is in addition to normal backspace
The plate will offer some conventional compatibility (ANSI, split BS, 7u space, ISO). So no worries there.
6.) VIA compatibility would be an awesome PCB feature. It makes getting started with the hobby much easier (especially when combined with hotswap) and makes it easier to help people get started with the hobby (makes for an easier 'gateway' keyboard if you will)
Thanks. I believe the community will probably work on VIA support, if not I will try to find a friend to help out with the programming. Unsure if I will consider this a "gateway" board. I plan to make it an endgame board actually. It is very unlikely we will see hotswap, mainly because hotswap doesn't work well with gasket mount design. And also production complexity and costs.
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
8.) If hotswap is done, I would personally suggest something like an ANSI(-ish) layout for the hotswap and then a secondary standard PCB if demand for other layouts is high.
R1 was an ANSI hotswap. It worked well because we have a 4.5mm thick plate. But now we change to gasket, hotswap will not work that well
Again, thanks for your feedback. And hoping this reply helps address some of your questions!
Also will the toxic colorway shown in render be available? I would love that.
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Post by: konstantin on Mon, 27 April 2020, 10:32:41
Oldcat, I absolutely love my Thinks. The e-yellow is my daily driver. It has two problems. One of the keys in the rightmost column and the Caps Lock key are oriented the other way, south instead of north-facing, which makes Cherry profile keys hit the switches on press.
Please consider this in the PCB design and make them all north-facing.
(Attachment Link)
South-facing, not north-facing. North-facing cutout is the orientation that causes premature bottom-out issues with R3 Cherry profile caps.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 11:22:23
Oldcat, I absolutely love my Thinks. The e-yellow is my daily driver. It has two problems. One of the keys in the rightmost column and the Caps Lock key are oriented the other way, south instead of north-facing, which makes Cherry profile keys hit the switches on press.
Please consider this in the PCB design and make them all north-facing.
(Attachment Link)
Hey brother, thanks for the feedback. It was mainly due to we designed the capslock key to be compatible with stepped caps. That part may be tough to change unless we make 2 PCBs. For the rightmost one again it was due to the LEDs. Will keep this in mind as we design the PCBs with DemoStudio.
Post by: Merked on Mon, 27 April 2020, 12:23:45
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 13:19:28
are you planning to keep the integrated plate design?
Hey, this will be a gasket-mount design. Working on a new type of gasket locking system that I am very excited about.
Post by: dietonto on Mon, 27 April 2020, 13:24:34
Post by: Vyndem on Mon, 27 April 2020, 13:48:43
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
Damn I really wish there would be a hotswap PCB option, even if it would be an option at the extra costs that comes with it ofc. Definitely willing to pay for it.
Post by: kolyz on Mon, 27 April 2020, 14:31:54
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
Damn I really wish there would be a hotswap PCB option, even if it would be an option at the extra costs that comes with it ofc. Definitely willing to pay for it.
I second this, I would really like a hotswap PCB option as well and I am willing to pay extra for it. I already own a round 1 Think6.5 with hotswap PCB. I've used 4 different GMK keysets on it with tealios, zilents, and holy pandas with no issues.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 15:50:30
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
Damn I really wish there would be a hotswap PCB option, even if it would be an option at the extra costs that comes with it ofc. Definitely willing to pay for it.
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
Damn I really wish there would be a hotswap PCB option, even if it would be an option at the extra costs that comes with it ofc. Definitely willing to pay for it.
I second this, I would really like a hotswap PCB option as well and I am willing to pay extra for it. I already own a round 1 Think6.5 with hotswap PCB. I've used 4 different GMK keysets on it with tealios, zilents, and holy pandas with no issues.
Thanks for the feedback. Unlike the integrated plate design of the original think6.5, the gasket-mount design may not work well with hotswap. Further, adding hotswap further complicates a potential group buy. With that said, I will think about what I can do.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 27 April 2020, 16:34:51
Hey bro, thanks for the well thought out and well crafted feedback. Much appreciated. And here are some quick responses, certainly working on most of these:
1.)Prefer badge-less, particularly if it means more keys. If there is a badge, prefer OG position
Unsure if I will do badgeless again, from the data perspective, there were not that many people choosing badgeless during the R1 Think6.5 GB, and adding a different top piece increases production costs significantly. If cost permits, I would like to offer 2 badge position options this time as opposed to having badgeless. Hope you understand.
2.) Absolutely agree with removing '2020.' This is not shaping up to be a year anyone will want to remember / have their board associated with
This is being worked on. What is uncertain atm is if we add "Think" engraving to where 2020 is on the bottom, many friends seem to want Think engraving on the bottom.
3.) Polycarbonate (frosted) is my preference by an enormous margin; there are lots of aluminum options but far fewer PC options
Agreed, will certainly try to offer it. That being said, PC will be about 10% more costly to produce based on the R1 run.
4.) I've seen boards with brass plates under frosted polycarbonate, and I love that look. I don't have a huge preference for plate material, but I would very likely go with brass if offered (brass should be sealed or otherwise coated though)
I personally do not enjoy brass plate's feel or sound. We will find out about plate material as we move this project forward. I am thinking about PEEK, FR4 and some other softer but high quality plastic materials.
5.) Please don't do split backspace unless it is in addition to normal backspace
The plate will offer some conventional compatibility (ANSI, split BS, 7u space, ISO). So no worries there.
6.) VIA compatibility would be an awesome PCB feature. It makes getting started with the hobby much easier (especially when combined with hotswap) and makes it easier to help people get started with the hobby (makes for an easier 'gateway' keyboard if you will)
Thanks. I believe the community will probably work on VIA support, if not I will try to find a friend to help out with the programming. Unsure if I will consider this a "gateway" board. I plan to make it an endgame board actually. It is very unlikely we will see hotswap, mainly because hotswap doesn't work well with gasket mount design. And also production complexity and costs.
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
Again, thanks for your feedback. And hoping this reply helps address some of your questions!
Thanks for the info and literally one of the most thorough response I've ever gotten on GH! Really looking forward to seeing this go to GB! Just hoping limits are high enough that I can get my hands on one!
1.) The OG badge position is really growing on me; badgeless is starting to seem a little too generic for a premium board. Now definitely agreeing that badgless should be dropped if demand is low and it would increase costs
2.) If it were me, I'd probably put "Think" on the bottom and have the top badge just be the glyph; it just seems like it would make the top a little more elegant to me. As for the bottom, I'm mostly indifferent to the controversy of the anchor (how often do you really look at the bottom of your board anyway?), but I don't mind it either since I like nautical stuff. I think you could definitely do "Think" plus the anchor or plus some other glyph or just "Think." It's your board after all.
3.) Speaking for myself, 10% more is definitely worth it for a good polycarbonate option; I'd still be in.
4.) That's fair. Honestly, I've not experimented much with plate material; I've only used aluminum and brass. I don't even know what PEEK and FR4 are, but I'm down to try new things.
5.) Bless. I have tried to get used to split backspace and literally cannot do it. (yes I know I am weak)
6.) Sorry I didn't mean to imply that this is an intro-level board. I just meant that VIA is super convenient. I also honestly know very little about how the process of developing VIA support works. I'm a nerd through and through, but I have no computer science background; I have a graduate degree in nutrition and a bachelor's in nutritional biochemistry.
7.) Sounds good. Do you anticipate buyers being able to get extra PCB's / plates? I'm not so indecisive that I change switches frequently, but I wouldn't mind putting linears on one pcb and maybe silent tactiles on another and swapping between the two occasionally.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 27 April 2020, 16:36:45
Hey bro, thanks for the well thought out and well crafted feedback. Much appreciated. And here are some quick responses, certainly working on most of these:
1.)Prefer badge-less, particularly if it means more keys. If there is a badge, prefer OG position
Unsure if I will do badgeless again, from the data perspective, there were not that many people choosing badgeless during the R1 Think6.5 GB, and adding a different top piece increases production costs significantly. If cost permits, I would like to offer 2 badge position options this time as opposed to having badgeless. Hope you understand.
2.) Absolutely agree with removing '2020.' This is not shaping up to be a year anyone will want to remember / have their board associated with
This is being worked on. What is uncertain atm is if we add "Think" engraving to where 2020 is on the bottom, many friends seem to want Think engraving on the bottom.
3.) Polycarbonate (frosted) is my preference by an enormous margin; there are lots of aluminum options but far fewer PC options
Agreed, will certainly try to offer it. That being said, PC will be about 10% more costly to produce based on the R1 run.
4.) I've seen boards with brass plates under frosted polycarbonate, and I love that look. I don't have a huge preference for plate material, but I would very likely go with brass if offered (brass should be sealed or otherwise coated though)
I personally do not enjoy brass plate's feel or sound. We will find out about plate material as we move this project forward. I am thinking about PEEK, FR4 and some other softer but high quality plastic materials.
5.) Please don't do split backspace unless it is in addition to normal backspace
The plate will offer some conventional compatibility (ANSI, split BS, 7u space, ISO). So no worries there.
6.) VIA compatibility would be an awesome PCB feature. It makes getting started with the hobby much easier (especially when combined with hotswap) and makes it easier to help people get started with the hobby (makes for an easier 'gateway' keyboard if you will)
Thanks. I believe the community will probably work on VIA support, if not I will try to find a friend to help out with the programming. Unsure if I will consider this a "gateway" board. I plan to make it an endgame board actually. It is very unlikely we will see hotswap, mainly because hotswap doesn't work well with gasket mount design. And also production complexity and costs.
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
Again, thanks for your feedback. And hoping this reply helps address some of your questions!
Thanks for the info and literally one of the most thorough response I've ever gotten on GH! Really looking forward to seeing this go to GB! Just hoping limits are high enough that I can get my hands on one!
1.) The OG badge position is really growing on me; badgeless is starting to seem a little too generic for a premium board. Now definitely agreeing that badgless should be dropped if demand is low and it would increase costs
2.) If it were me, I'd probably put "Think" on the bottom and have the top badge just be the glyph; it just seems like it would make the top a little more elegant to me. As for the bottom, I'm mostly indifferent to the controversy of the anchor (how often do you really look at the bottom of your board anyway?), but I don't mind it either since I like nautical stuff. I think you could definitely do "Think" plus the anchor or plus some other glyph or just "Think." It's your board after all.
3.) Speaking for myself, 10% more is definitely worth it for a good polycarbonate option; I'd still be in.
4.) That's fair. Honestly, I've not experimented much with plate material; I've only used aluminum and brass. I don't even know what PEEK and FR4 are, but I'm down to try new things.
5.) Bless. I have tried to get used to split backspace and literally cannot do it. (yes I know I am weak)
6.) Sorry I didn't mean to imply that this is an intro-level board. I just meant that VIA is super convenient. I also honestly know very little about how the process of developing VIA support works. I'm a nerd through and through, but I have no computer science background; I have a graduate degree in nutrition and a bachelor's in nutritional biochemistry.
7.) Sounds good. Do you anticipate buyers being able to get extra PCB's / plates? I'm not so indecisive that I change switches frequently, but I wouldn't mind putting linears on one pcb and maybe silent tactiles on another and swapping between the two occasionally.
*Question*: How do the badges mount? If extras/different colors are offered, can they be swapped out?
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 16:45:03
Hey bro, thanks for the well thought out and well crafted feedback. Much appreciated. And here are some quick responses, certainly working on most of these:
1.)Prefer badge-less, particularly if it means more keys. If there is a badge, prefer OG position
Unsure if I will do badgeless again, from the data perspective, there were not that many people choosing badgeless during the R1 Think6.5 GB, and adding a different top piece increases production costs significantly. If cost permits, I would like to offer 2 badge position options this time as opposed to having badgeless. Hope you understand.
2.) Absolutely agree with removing '2020.' This is not shaping up to be a year anyone will want to remember / have their board associated with
This is being worked on. What is uncertain atm is if we add "Think" engraving to where 2020 is on the bottom, many friends seem to want Think engraving on the bottom.
3.) Polycarbonate (frosted) is my preference by an enormous margin; there are lots of aluminum options but far fewer PC options
Agreed, will certainly try to offer it. That being said, PC will be about 10% more costly to produce based on the R1 run.
4.) I've seen boards with brass plates under frosted polycarbonate, and I love that look. I don't have a huge preference for plate material, but I would very likely go with brass if offered (brass should be sealed or otherwise coated though)
I personally do not enjoy brass plate's feel or sound. We will find out about plate material as we move this project forward. I am thinking about PEEK, FR4 and some other softer but high quality plastic materials.
5.) Please don't do split backspace unless it is in addition to normal backspace
The plate will offer some conventional compatibility (ANSI, split BS, 7u space, ISO). So no worries there.
6.) VIA compatibility would be an awesome PCB feature. It makes getting started with the hobby much easier (especially when combined with hotswap) and makes it easier to help people get started with the hobby (makes for an easier 'gateway' keyboard if you will)
Thanks. I believe the community will probably work on VIA support, if not I will try to find a friend to help out with the programming. Unsure if I will consider this a "gateway" board. I plan to make it an endgame board actually. It is very unlikely we will see hotswap, mainly because hotswap doesn't work well with gasket mount design. And also production complexity and costs.
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
Again, thanks for your feedback. And hoping this reply helps address some of your questions!
Thanks for the info and literally one of the most thorough response I've ever gotten on GH! Really looking forward to seeing this go to GB! Just hoping limits are high enough that I can get my hands on one!
1.) The OG badge position is really growing on me; badgeless is starting to seem a little too generic for a premium board. Now definitely agreeing that badgless should be dropped if demand is low and it would increase costs
Thanks!
2.) If it were me, I'd probably put "Think" on the bottom and have the top badge just be the glyph; it just seems like it would make the top a little more elegant to me. As for the bottom, I'm mostly indifferent to the controversy of the anchor (how often do you really look at the bottom of your board anyway?), but I don't mind it either since I like nautical stuff. I think you could definitely do "Think" plus the anchor or plus some other glyph or just "Think." It's your board after all.
I am revising the top right now, reducing the size of the 1U badge and the 2U badge (removing 2020 and resizing the badge)
For the bottom, it appears 67% want to have 'Think' engraved and have '2020' removed, I am experimenting with that design now.
3.) Speaking for myself, 10% more is definitely worth it for a good polycarbonate option; I'd still be in.
Full disclosure, I will again not make any money out of this project. It will be a free design AirPotter will run a GB and manufacturer. Ultimately pricing decision is his. Just based on R1 experience, PC is more expensive. 5-10% higher than aluminum will be expected. Potter has said the cost to make keyboards are going up overall (counter-intuitively) as many factories in China moved away from CNC and moved to making masks and PPE production that are more profitable, so production capacity for keyboards is going down.
4.) That's fair. Honestly, I've not experimented much with plate material; I've only used aluminum and brass. I don't even know what PEEK and FR4 are, but I'm down to try new things.
I will try to good material for typing:)
5.) Bless. I have tried to get used to split backspace and literally cannot do it. (yes I know I am weak)
Discord friends convinced me to :) But ANSI is always supported, no worries.
6.) Sorry I didn't mean to imply that this is an intro-level board. I just meant that VIA is super convenient. I also honestly know very little about how the process of developing VIA support works. I'm a nerd through and through, but I have no computer science background; I have a graduate degree in nutrition and a bachelor's in nutritional biochemistry.
No offense at all. VIA is great, and I will try to find someone to work with VIA. Worst case we have QMK :)
7.) Sounds good. Do you anticipate buyers being able to get extra PCB's / plates? I'm not so indecisive that I change switches frequently, but I wouldn't mind putting linears on one pcb and maybe silent tactiles on another and swapping between the two occasionally.
Yes, extra PCBs and plates will be available. My suggestion (and when I join GBs) is always to get an extra PCB just in case.
Post by: jayiskuhl on Mon, 27 April 2020, 16:47:20
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 16:53:50
Just filled out the poll. Really looking forward to this!
Thanks bro!
Post by: nirvana549 on Mon, 27 April 2020, 18:02:00
+1 Love to see a hotswap option!7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
Damn I really wish there would be a hotswap PCB option, even if it would be an option at the extra costs that comes with it ofc. Definitely willing to pay for it.
I second this, I would really like a hotswap PCB option as well and I am willing to pay extra for it. I already own a round 1 Think6.5 with hotswap PCB. I've used 4 different GMK keysets on it with tealios, zilents, and holy pandas with no issues.
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Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 19:04:53
Hello keeb friends,
It's been a while since the Think6.5 GB! Hope you are doing well and staying healthy.
I have started this design last year but was not able to start an IC due to personal reasons. Now things are much better, I now decide to start an interest check for R2 Think6.5 named '2020.' For those of you who are curious about how the R1 design looks like, here is the original IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=99634
Importantly, please let me know if you prefer the original badge position or the new badge position. And board material suggestions. Any questions, please feel free to ask. And welcome any constructive feedback.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LCcojNB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qGzSbEi.jpg)
Looks awesome! Do we just reserve our interest here? I'm not seeing a link to any official Google IC Form or anything.
A couple of points to mention:
1) Definitely want there to be a Polycarb option!
2) Please also include a PCB that will be both Hotswap AND Underglow compatible
3) Top-Right Badge placement for sure!
Other than that, looks amazing! I'd love to get my hands on this!
Thank you. Here is some response to you feedback:
1) Definitely want there to be a Polycarb option!
Yes it is being considered!
2) Please also include a PCB that will be both Hotswap AND Underglow compatible
Underglow - yes; hotswap - unsure because it may not work well with gasket-mounting system
3) Top-Right Badge placement for sure!
I am excited about the new badge placement too! Especially with the magnet and a new locking system that makes it secure and easy to replace.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 21:53:16
I prefer the original badge location, but also not a fan of the nautical/anchor/boat theme personally. I like the original theming and branding more personally, it doesn't really match any of that for me sadly.
If it changes I'd be interested in picking one up as a continuation and extension to the V1, but not in current form sadly. Will keep monitoring the thread to see if there's any changes etc :)
Nothing yet changed to the weight (maybe '2020' engraving will be changed to "think"), but yes, the OG theme badges are forthcoming.
Post by: Robertg63 on Mon, 27 April 2020, 22:47:51
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 23:23:59
Oldcat, I absolutely love my Thinks. The e-yellow is my daily driver. It has two problems. One of the keys in the rightmost column and the Caps Lock key are oriented the other way, south instead of north-facing, which makes Cherry profile keys hit the switches on press.
Please consider this in the PCB design and make them all north-facing.
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Quoting because this seems extremely important.
This will not be an issue in non-hotswap PCB we will be designing :)
Post by: harvishez on Tue, 28 April 2020, 00:51:45
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Post by: kolyz on Tue, 28 April 2020, 08:49:41
7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
Damn I really wish there would be a hotswap PCB option, even if it would be an option at the extra costs that comes with it ofc. Definitely willing to pay for it.7.) Hotswap is great, but a previous comment mentioned GMK keycaps were hitting the switch housing on some southfacing switches. That seems bad. I'd definitely rather solder than deal with keycaps striking the switch housing.
At this time I am not planning to offer hotswap, for the reasons mentioned above.
Damn I really wish there would be a hotswap PCB option, even if it would be an option at the extra costs that comes with it ofc. Definitely willing to pay for it.
I second this, I would really like a hotswap PCB option as well and I am willing to pay extra for it. I already own a round 1 Think6.5 with hotswap PCB. I've used 4 different GMK keysets on it with tealios, zilents, and holy pandas with no issues.
Thanks for the feedback. Unlike the integrated plate design of the original think6.5, the gasket-mount design may not work well with hotswap. Further, adding hotswap further complicates a potential group buy. With that said, I will think about what I can do.
Thanks for giving this some more thought, you rock oldcat :thumb:
Post by: Lel on Tue, 28 April 2020, 10:10:01
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 28 April 2020, 11:35:44
Other popular improvement requests are also being made at the moment. Consider filling out the poll if you haven't already: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13oKtTME2ZrKdjisX2SvZgJdsGjNgS801-dUQcqA1Nzk/
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Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Tue, 28 April 2020, 11:42:13
I have modified the size of the 1u badge, and added the lightbulb theme as requested, and here it is, please let me know your thoughts?
Other popular improvement requests are also being made at the moment. Consider filling out the poll if you haven't already: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13oKtTME2ZrKdjisX2SvZgJdsGjNgS801-dUQcqA1Nzk/Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8mVSlKM.png)
Stop trying to take my money!
Post by: Vyndem on Tue, 28 April 2020, 11:59:50
I have modified the size of the 1u badge, and added the lightbulb (with RGB LED under a diffuser under the badge) theme as requested, and here it is, please let me know your thoughts?
Other popular improvement requests are also being made at the moment. Consider filling out the poll if you haven't already: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13oKtTME2ZrKdjisX2SvZgJdsGjNgS801-dUQcqA1Nzk/Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8mVSlKM.png)
Damn this does look really good not gonna lie, but if I had to chose I still prefer the OG placement of the badge because it's more unique imo.
Also filled in the poll.
Post by: Hell-es on Tue, 28 April 2020, 12:11:12
Post by: Vadurr on Tue, 28 April 2020, 12:20:26
Post by: beekey on Tue, 28 April 2020, 12:29:50
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 28 April 2020, 12:51:17
Think logo is nice! Still like the old position better. Better balance IMHO.
Thanks! Old position 2U badge is being worked on per feedback to remove '2020' and will share a revised version soon.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 28 April 2020, 12:51:48
Missing „BHK the Man :thumb:“ for weight engraving
Indeed. BHK is the man!
Post by: bibobim on Tue, 28 April 2020, 14:06:52
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 28 April 2020, 15:05:59
The board looks super nice but I think the badges need to be tweaked.
1. I prefer the top right blocker but don’t really like the boating theme at all. It has nothing to do with the ‘think’ theme in my opinion. I can see where you’re going with it due to the current worldwide situation, but I think it’s really cheesy and lame. I also don’t like that the badge bleeds over the edges like that.
2. The middle blocker is nice as well, but like others have said, I don’t like the ‘2020’ text on the badge. I think if it said ‘Think’ that would be better.
3. I really like the cutouts on the badges for the LED accents to shine through :)
Excited to see more renders and I’ll probably be in on the groupbuy regardless.
Thanks for the feedback! Here are a few responses:
1. I prefer the top right blocker but don’t really like the boating theme at all. It has nothing to do with the ‘think’ theme in my opinion. I can see where you’re going with it due to the current worldwide situation, but I think it’s really cheesy and lame. I also don’t like that the badge bleeds over the edges like that.
Thanks. I have tweaked the designs (both 1u and 2u). 1u is out with a new lightbulb badge. Check out the story I posted, and hope you will tolerate my desire to do something new with the anchor in the weight.
2. The middle blocker is nice as well, but like others have said, I don’t like the ‘2020’ text on the badge. I think if it said ‘Think’ that would be better.
This is currently being addressed. The new 2U badge render will come out soon with a smaller footprint without the '2020.'
3. I really like the cutouts on the badges for the LED accents to shine through :)
Thanks! Cool visuals on the badge are really something I want to achieve.
Post by: stebosaurus on Tue, 28 April 2020, 15:24:23
The board looks super nice but I think the badges need to be tweaked.
1. I prefer the top right blocker but don’t really like the boating theme at all. It has nothing to do with the ‘think’ theme in my opinion. I can see where you’re going with it due to the current worldwide situation, but I think it’s really cheesy and lame. I also don’t like that the badge bleeds over the edges like that.
2. The middle blocker is nice as well, but like others have said, I don’t like the ‘2020’ text on the badge. I think if it said ‘Think’ that would be better.
3. I really like the cutouts on the badges for the LED accents to shine through :)
Excited to see more renders and I’ll probably be in on the groupbuy regardless.
Thanks for the feedback! Here are a few responses:
1. I prefer the top right blocker but don’t really like the boating theme at all. It has nothing to do with the ‘think’ theme in my opinion. I can see where you’re going with it due to the current worldwide situation, but I think it’s really cheesy and lame. I also don’t like that the badge bleeds over the edges like that.
Thanks. I have tweaked the designs (both 1u and 2u). 1u is out with a new lightbulb badge. Check out the story I posted, and hope you will tolerate my desire to do something new with the anchor in the weight.
2. The middle blocker is nice as well, but like others have said, I don’t like the ‘2020’ text on the badge. I think if it said ‘Think’ that would be better.
This is currently being addressed. The new 2U badge render will come out soon with a smaller footprint without the '2020.'
3. I really like the cutouts on the badges for the LED accents to shine through :)
Thanks! Cool visuals on the badge are really something I want to achieve.
The updated version looks great! The anchor badge on the bottom looks much nicer without the '2020' engraving. I kind of wonder what the 1u lightbulb badge would look like if the lightbulb was straight up and down instead of being tilted to the right like that. Excited to see more renders and hopefully a frosted PC version. Anyways, I wanted to thank you for your clear communication on this project. Can't wait to support it and see it come to life.
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 28 April 2020, 16:25:36
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 28 April 2020, 16:44:56
You should use the old logo or your avatar. Def be interested then. Not feeling the new logos. Too flashy
Thanks bro. I've been trying to get a cat badge going - stuck with my (un)creative mind!
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 28 April 2020, 16:58:36
That would be super cool!!! The old logo was very clean and modern. A cat would be sick though!You should use the old logo or your avatar. Def be interested then. Not feeling the new logos. Too flashy
Thanks bro. I've been trying to get a cat badge going - stuck with my (un)creative mind!
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Post by: nicx on Tue, 28 April 2020, 18:01:32
Having to chose between that and the OG placement would kill me. Think I am leaning towards top right placement with that new version..
Post by: Raethyn on Tue, 28 April 2020, 18:19:14
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 28 April 2020, 21:36:56
Yo bro! You were not kidding =)
Like OG's placement ala fc660 a lot. I think it works best from an ergo and aesthetic perspective.
Where is the Fn key on keeb #1?
I like the compass logo. Not sure about 2020 text though. 2600 would be cool.
Still has option for hotswap?
Reserved!
Hey bro, thanks for the questions.
I am working on the OG badge as of right now. Should be able to show an updated one soon.
You can program the Fn anywhere :) the current layout is just for colorway showing.
Haha, 2600 indeed. But I will remove "2020," I might add "Think" as requested by many.
95% there won't be Hotswap primarily because hotswap won't work with a gasket design very well.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 28 April 2020, 23:56:09
hmm so its now a sailboat themed or navy themed keyboard?
where's the think badge parts?
Updated think badge for 1U! 2U will come soon.
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 29 April 2020, 05:27:07
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 29 April 2020, 10:21:53
IMO the top right badge would be a little more on brand if it fit inside the outline of the frame instead of wrapping around on the corner. Not sure how much more room that would take up, but just my two cents.
I actually like that it wraps around the corner. It's unique and looks nice. If it didn't wrap around the corner, I'd prefer the original placement since that's one of the things that made R1 stand out.
Thanks. 1U badge will have both magnet and a locking system, the top right might actually be pretty cool!
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 29 April 2020, 12:15:09
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Post by: doctorserka on Wed, 29 April 2020, 12:17:57
Previously, I thought new is better but surprisingly for myself find myself liking the old one.
One thing I notice that OG label seems build more icony-badgy like)) Feels more like IN a concept of the whole kb, like part of it.
The new corner version is separate, not line up with anything and I don't like that idea. It is the part of the corner including the borders, - not fond of that either.
Didn't know it supposed to be transparent and light up from inside like side of SPACE65, excuse my ignorance, new((
Ok, new OldCats post in insta turned me into a fan of the original refined badge! @5:15 PM UTC time
Post by: Vyndem on Wed, 29 April 2020, 12:51:15
New 2u and 1u badge positions, side by side comparison, what do you guys think?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WQpNx9G.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZOEe9fz.png)
I personally like the bottom badge position more, it's looks so clean and more unique imo.
Post by: woyaodapian on Wed, 29 April 2020, 12:53:30
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 29 April 2020, 12:54:58
New 2u and 1u badge positions, side by side comparison, what do you guys think?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WQpNx9G.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZOEe9fz.png)
Now you've managed to make me a fan of the 2u badge... Hard to decide between the two now :(
Post by: Daddyfatsax on Wed, 29 April 2020, 13:11:08
Post by: Slayer77 on Wed, 29 April 2020, 14:15:40
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Post by: cadrev on Wed, 29 April 2020, 14:29:33
New 2u and 1u badge positions, side by side comparison, what do you guys think?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WQpNx9G.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZOEe9fz.png)
At this point I'm 100% in on the GB regardless of the badge position ;D. For my comments, the 1u badge position at the top right is nice, it definitely is up there with the chimera and iron IMHO. But the og 2u badge placement seems to have more character(that carved edge is sexy af), I mean compared to releases such as the Volcano, it definitely makes use of the negative space and makes it unique vs all other 65% keyboard out there.
Nice to have PC option, I think that's going to be the cherry on top.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 29 April 2020, 14:50:32
New 2u and 1u badge positions, side by side comparison, what do you guys think?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WQpNx9G.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZOEe9fz.png)
OG 2u badge. That being said, the revised 1u corner badge is definitely an improvement over the previous iteration.
Post by: beekey on Wed, 29 April 2020, 14:58:56
New 2u and 1u badge positions, side by side comparison, what do you guys think?This shows how much more balanced the bottom option is. Much better IMHO.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WQpNx9G.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZOEe9fz.png)
Post by: Uncle Drew on Wed, 29 April 2020, 15:06:28
New 2u and 1u badge positions, side by side comparison, what do you guys think?it starts to look ok but show renders in other colors plisss :cool:
Post by: dom on Wed, 29 April 2020, 15:27:05
TBH, the top badge placement feels too crowded at the bottom (preference, I guess).
Post by: Cupidandguns on Wed, 29 April 2020, 15:28:18
Post by: mechmymoney on Wed, 29 April 2020, 15:38:25
Again, not a big fan of the anchor and even more so now that the badge has the light bulb ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 29 April 2020, 17:01:29
Like Phemia said, the badge in the original spot kept it different from the rest of the bunch.
Just purchased my space, and now I'm waiting on this.
Frosted PC please! :D
Thanks for supporting Airpotter on the Space65 R2! From what I gather he has been working hard on its production already. Frosted PC Think V2 is being considered!
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 29 April 2020, 17:03:08
To be honest, I really liked the old design. I'm not feeling this one (yet). I'm hoping there will be a Polycarbonate version?
Thanks! Yes I do plan to offer PC as long as the GB is not too complicated - weighing different aspects now. Might have to cut out hotswap and badgeless this time.
I made a few changes to the design already with community feedback. Hope you will feel the THiNK soon! And thanks for being patient and tolerant with my new designs.
Post by: jaredddm on Wed, 29 April 2020, 17:05:37
Thanks for running an IC for this. I’d be definitely in if you kept the badge where it was and used your design prowess to design the best sounding board.
Oh and, rose gold alu will seal the deal for me as well haha.
Thanks Oldcat!
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 29 April 2020, 17:12:48
personally, when I had my think the only thing wrong with the “almost perfect” board was its mounting style. Integrated mounting isn’t bad; it’s efficient, but I still prefer to make my board sound the best.
Thanks for running an IC for this. I’d be definitely in if you kept the badge where it was and used your design prowess to design the best sounding board.
Oh and, rose gold alu will seal the deal for me as well haha.
Thanks Oldcat!
Hopping on this pony and would love to have a rosegold/polycarb setup :cool:
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 29 April 2020, 19:35:33
personally, when I had my think the only thing wrong with the “almost perfect” board was its mounting style. Integrated mounting isn’t bad; it’s efficient, but I still prefer to make my board sound the best.
Thanks for running an IC for this. I’d be definitely in if you kept the badge where it was and used your design prowess to design the best sounding board.
Oh and, rose gold alu will seal the deal for me as well haha.
Thanks Oldcat!
Thanks for the kind words, jaredddm. RE the rosegold color, I am currently talking to AirPotter about starting a new electrophoresis or cerakote color of either rosegold or pink. I like black/gray/white + pink colorways and hope this will materialize.
It is a bit ironic that I actually had the gasket design for R1, and ditched because I had the belief that integrated thick PC will be thockier - worked out for PC I think, but the Alu sound and feel (at least with tactile) were not as good as PC boards - therefore, back to gasket now. But at least this time the gasket is a new design. We will be making molds to make the gaskets, and I am very excited.
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 29 April 2020, 22:54:35
Saw in discord right now that this is now a gasket mount design? In that case then regardless of design, it's a big step up from the previous version. I'm ok with other placement of the badges, just not really feeling the sail badge. But the 2020 badge rocks.
Yes it will be a gasket design. Also updated both badges.
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 29 April 2020, 23:42:16
Oh ****tt... liking this logo and placement. simple gear type logo. nice! :thumb: Def want a PC option.
Post by: Slayer77 on Wed, 29 April 2020, 23:45:41
I know it is not as popular as Olivia, but hope to see the toxic green colorway available.personally, when I had my think the only thing wrong with the “almost perfect” board was its mounting style. Integrated mounting isn’t bad; it’s efficient, but I still prefer to make my board sound the best.
Thanks for running an IC for this. I’d be definitely in if you kept the badge where it was and used your design prowess to design the best sounding board.
Oh and, rose gold alu will seal the deal for me as well haha.
Thanks Oldcat!
Thanks for the kind words, jaredddm. RE the rosegold color, I am currently talking to AirPotter about starting a new electrophoresis or cerakote color of either rosegold or pink. I like black/gray/white + pink colorways and hope this will materialize.
It is a bit ironic that I actually had the gasket design for R1, and ditched because I had the belief that integrated thick PC will be thockier - worked out for PC I think, but the Alu sound and feel (at least with tactile) were not as good as PC boards - therefore, back to gasket now. But at least this time the gasket is a new design. We will be making molds to make the gaskets, and I am very excited.
Hopefully a full green as the badge color shown in renders would be pretty unique.
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Post by: heliar_mk on Thu, 30 April 2020, 05:55:36
New 2u and 1u badge positions, side by side comparison, what do you guys think?Like the 2u much more than 1uShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/WQpNx9G.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZOEe9fz.png)
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 30 April 2020, 11:01:08
I am also considering the position of the engraving, I will tweak a few versions of where the engraving will be and share later.
(https://i.imgur.com/cB9WqBA.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/jKOr53u.png)
Post by: arkze on Thu, 30 April 2020, 11:03:54
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 30 April 2020, 11:30:44
I would opt for THINK rather than THiNK or nothing at all. Simplicity is key
Well...trying to be consistent with R1 version's engraving which seems to be what most people asked so far...
Post by: prognostics on Thu, 30 April 2020, 11:31:54
Removed "2020," and would you like to engrave "THiNK? Let me know in the poll (other options also polling) if you haven't already. And here is a comparison: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13oKtTME2ZrKdjisX2SvZgJdsGjNgS801-dUQcqA1Nzk/Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cB9WqBA.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jKOr53u.png)
Would 100% buy this... even though I already ordered the Space65.
Lovely design, every change so far has been an improvement imo.
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 30 April 2020, 11:38:56
Post by: Vyndem on Thu, 30 April 2020, 11:53:59
I am still still really hoping for a hotswap PCB tho, eventho chances are low if I read your posts about it :(
Also PC case ;)
Post by: dereknt on Thu, 30 April 2020, 12:14:54
1. Think about what makes the Think6.5 originally: its DNA, features, why the name Think. Go beyond the angle, the layout, and Descartes quote.
2. If we deviate from the core DNA and signature that makes up Think6.5, is it worthy of to add V2.0 to the name or is it time for a new name.
3. A logo should be consistent. Sagi Haviv, the guy who design many iconic logos (National Geographic, Chase, NBC, etc) have said that a logo is identification, not description. Using the logo consistently help identify what "Think6.5" is. When you change a logo, you risk losing brand identification and recognition. In trade off, you gain ability to improve the brand messaging.
Post by: fabijolo on Thu, 30 April 2020, 12:27:11
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Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 30 April 2020, 12:59:59
Removed "2020," and would you like to engrave "THiNK? Let me know in the poll (other options also polling) if you haven't already. And here is a comparison: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13oKtTME2ZrKdjisX2SvZgJdsGjNgS801-dUQcqA1Nzk/
I am also considering the position of the engraving, I will tweak a few versions of where the engraving will be and share later.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cB9WqBA.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jKOr53u.png)
It won’t let me re-submit/change my answer to the form, but I like it with ‘THiNK.’
Post by: FTR_Beat on Thu, 30 April 2020, 16:16:28
Will get it either way, hot or not. But with all the nice switches around now, a hotswap would be cool! =)
Post by: FTR_Beat on Thu, 30 April 2020, 16:20:13
Both looking very neat. I think the icon says it all. Perhaps you may not even have to add THiNK. Will go vote...
Will get it either way, hot or not. But with all the nice switches around now, a hotswap would be cool! =)
Thought there was a new poll... It said already answered.
Post by: need_my_pills on Thu, 30 April 2020, 16:32:23
Both looking very neat. I think the icon says it all. Perhaps you may not even have to add THiNK. Will go vote...
Will get it either way, hot or not. But with all the nice switches around now, a hotswap would be cool! =)
Thought there was a new poll... It said already answered.
Seconding this, I'd like to answer the new poll but I answered the original one already. Is the poll IP based?
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 30 April 2020, 19:04:06
Both looking very neat. I think the icon says it all. Perhaps you may not even have to add THiNK. Will go vote...
Will get it either way, hot or not. But with all the nice switches around now, a hotswap would be cool! =)
Thought there was a new poll... It said already answered.
A few other design improvements and poll will come later. Thanks for the feedback of the initial poll!
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 30 April 2020, 22:34:58
I'd still prefer it with the engraving (and og badge position), even though it doesn't look as "clean" as without it, but the think never has been one of the "clean boards, and imo definitely doesn't have to be, to be an astonishingly good looking board!
Thanks. I have played with various THiNK engraving positions on the bottom today, and will share two versions soon.
Post by: enjoidis on Fri, 01 May 2020, 00:37:22
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 01 May 2020, 00:40:15
Let me start by saying that I did not join R1; I had simply not discovered this money pit of a hobby in due time.
This to say that I do not have strong feelings on the OG board other than I like it and it seems like a hit amongst the community.
It seems to me quite a few people are suggesting you more or less use the R1 design unchanged and instead offer different colour options and the ever popular polycarbonate edition.
I personally think it would be a mistake to abandon your design ideas/changes for R2; in other words, keep the anchor and the sailboat, they look pretty awesome in my opinion.
That may seem like a big/huge change from R1, but then call it something different, like 'Rethink6.5' if you want the brand recognition or maybe even call it 'Anchor6.5'. The '6.5' part in the name will likely still have people recognise it and tie it back to the 'Think6.5'.
Thanks bro. I hope I thought about Rethink6.5 as the name -- it is awesome. Now maybe a tad too late to change the name.
That said, I think quite a few friends here are happy with the added lightbulb badge now. I maybe able to offer another badge related to anchor, and we will see how everything turns out. For the weight, I do feel it is aesthetically more pleasing than the R1 gear, and I shared my story with why I designed it. Glad you like it. And now we are proceeding to engrave THiNK on the bottom.
Actually overall it is not such a drastic design from R1 I believe, considering lots of the elements, shapes, chamfers are preserved.
Post by: woyaodapian on Fri, 01 May 2020, 01:01:10
Doesn't the whole anchor thing looks like a lightbulb actually (reminiscing the OG think) and the rubber feets are as if light emitting out from the lightbulb.
I mean that alone is just super impressive.
Post by: FTR_Beat on Fri, 01 May 2020, 01:23:44
This, combined with the boneyard set would fit perfectly as a theme. Just like the pic you posted the other day :thumb:
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Post by: oldcat on Fri, 01 May 2020, 10:57:04
Is there a chance to get split space as a layout option?
Will probably put up a poll and see how many will be interested. Split space will cut out a bit too more for plate optimization I think.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 01 May 2020, 11:02:49
(https://i.imgur.com/rVPe8c0.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/wmLtwnx.png)
Post by: woyaodapian on Fri, 01 May 2020, 11:32:03
Post by: FTR_Beat on Fri, 01 May 2020, 11:41:10
Post by: jawaJack on Fri, 01 May 2020, 11:43:12
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 01 May 2020, 13:14:50
It appeared that most would want THiNK engraved, I rendered two positions of the THiNK engravings, which one do you like better?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rVPe8c0.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wmLtwnx.png)
Top one; the extra space makes the text look less crowded.
Post by: ivu on Fri, 01 May 2020, 13:16:40
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Post by: beekey on Fri, 01 May 2020, 13:25:43
If the PCB would offer it, I would also be happy to get a plate cut later. (If you would share the files)Is there a chance to get split space as a layout option?
Will probably put up a poll and see how many will be interested. Split space will cut out a bit too more for plate optimization I think.
Post by: Daddyfatsax on Fri, 01 May 2020, 14:31:40
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Post by: oldcat on Fri, 01 May 2020, 20:55:17
Top for sure looks better.
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+1 for Top. Loving that lavender colour scheme btw!
It appeared that most would want THiNK engraved, I rendered two positions of the THiNK engravings, which one do you like better?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rVPe8c0.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wmLtwnx.png)
Top one; the extra space makes the text look less crowded.
+1 for top position.
+1 for Top. Loving that lavender colour scheme btw!
Thanks folks, This is indeed consistent with my expectations!
By the way, I am experimenting with adding one more OG Think6.5 element to the design. Stay tuned!
Post by: Vaudevi77ain on Fri, 01 May 2020, 23:17:51
Top for sure looks better.
Sent from my SM-N975F using Tapatalk+1 for Top. Loving that lavender colour scheme btw!It appeared that most would want THiNK engraved, I rendered two positions of the THiNK engravings, which one do you like better?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rVPe8c0.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wmLtwnx.png)
Top one; the extra space makes the text look less crowded.+1 for top position.+1 for Top. Loving that lavender colour scheme btw!
Thanks folks, This is indeed consistent with my expectations!
By the way, I am experimenting with adding one more OG Think6.5 element to the design. Stay tuned!
Please say it's the lightbulb backplate, instead of the anchor :))
Post by: aclassynerd on Sat, 02 May 2020, 04:35:42
Top for sure looks better.
Sent from my SM-N975F using Tapatalk+1 for Top. Loving that lavender colour scheme btw!It appeared that most would want THiNK engraved, I rendered two positions of the THiNK engravings, which one do you like better?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rVPe8c0.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wmLtwnx.png)
Top one; the extra space makes the text look less crowded.+1 for top position.+1 for Top. Loving that lavender colour scheme btw!
Thanks folks, This is indeed consistent with my expectations!
By the way, I am experimenting with adding one more OG Think6.5 element to the design. Stay tuned!
Please say it's the lightbulb backplate, instead of the anchor :))
Lightbulb would be interesting!
Post by: ninjacore on Sat, 02 May 2020, 07:28:50
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 May 2020, 10:10:56
Top for sure looks better.
Sent from my SM-N975F using Tapatalk+1 for Top. Loving that lavender colour scheme btw!It appeared that most would want THiNK engraved, I rendered two positions of the THiNK engravings, which one do you like better?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rVPe8c0.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wmLtwnx.png)
Top one; the extra space makes the text look less crowded.+1 for top position.+1 for Top. Loving that lavender colour scheme btw!
Thanks folks, This is indeed consistent with my expectations!
By the way, I am experimenting with adding one more OG Think6.5 element to the design. Stay tuned!
Please say it's the lightbulb backplate, instead of the anchor :))
Not that part...the anchor weight will stay. But somewhere else unexpected.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 May 2020, 11:21:51
Also, likely I won't be covering screws with rubber feet anymore as most don't seem to care about screw holes but not interested in ripping apart the rubber feet to unscrew. Thoughts?
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sat, 02 May 2020, 11:41:43
Looking to make the design a bit more seamless. Hoping to share some renders soon.
Also, likely I won't be covering screws with rubber feet anymore as most don't seem to care about screw holes but not interested in ripping apart the rubber feet to unscrew. Thoughts?
I prefer not to cover the screw holes with the rubber. The screw holes don't affect the aesthetic due to being below but having to remove them every time you want to open the case is no fun. :thumb:
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sat, 02 May 2020, 12:20:05
Looking to make the design a bit more seamless. Hoping to share some renders soon.
Also, likely I won't be covering screws with rubber feet anymore as most don't seem to care about screw holes but not interested in ripping apart the rubber feet to unscrew. Thoughts?
I prefer not to cover the screw holes with the rubber. The screw holes don't affect the aesthetic due to being below but having to remove them every time you want to open the case is no fun. :thumb:
Agreed.
Post by: beekey on Sat, 02 May 2020, 12:53:30
Looking to make the design a bit more seamless. Hoping to share some renders soon.Please don't cover them. I normally cut the rubber to not have to peel it off every time I try something with a board.
Also, likely I won't be covering screws with rubber feet anymore as most don't seem to care about screw holes but not interested in ripping apart the rubber feet to unscrew. Thoughts?
Post by: dereknt on Sat, 02 May 2020, 14:43:38
Love both. From outside perspective, the light bulb seems to emote "Think6.5 v2.0" while the anchor says "ReThink6.5". If you are mixing both of the logo on the same board, then one of the logo will look like an "after thought".
However, I understand doing a redesign is hard: you want to retain the old audience while pushing changes. From my experience, if you want to create a new look and feel, you have to be bold. Being consistent will make the design more holistic. Right now, the front of the board doesn't seems to speak the same design language as the back.
Post by: Vaudevi77ain on Sat, 02 May 2020, 15:42:01
The anchor seems a bit random. Why is GrayStudio instagram seems to be promoting the old light bulb logo for V2 when the board seems to be heading toward the anchor logo. A unified branding will creates a stronger branding. It creates confusion when the front is a light bulb yet the back is an anchor. Be consistent with branding when doing promotion, a style guide will help with that.
Love both. From outside perspective, the light bulb seems to emote "Think6.5 v2.0" while the anchor says "ReThink6.5". If you are mixing both of the logo on the same board, then one of the logo will look like an "after thought".
However, I understand doing a redesign is hard: you want to retain the old audience while pushing changes. From my experience, if you want to create a new look and feel, you have to be bold. Being consistent will make the design more holistic. Right now, the front of the board doesn't seems to speak the same design language as the back.
This summarizes my feelings on the whole anchor theme. The thing that makes Think unique as an enthusiast board is that it already has a following because of a strongly established look and brand; to change it while keeping it named the same betrays expectations, and potentially leads to disappointment.
Right now I think the design is suffering a bit of schizophrenia because it incorporates elements that fans recognize (the name, the lightbulb) but combines it with thematic elements that don't make sense (the sailboat, the anchor). If you had to rely on a paragraph of text explaining the meaning of those new elements, is it successful as a design?
Granted, I understand how oldcat feels - the anchor theme is something that he and his wife love on a personal level, and it's clear that he has an investment in making improvements and doing something different than before. But I would counter that oldcat should probably THiNK about just making it a new board with a bold new design instead, so that people have the right expectations about it. Personally, this would have been an insta-buy for me if it were just a design refresh of the Think6.5 with a gasket mount and a more seamless design - but the misplaced nautical elements are enough for me to reconsider.
Post by: dereknt on Sat, 02 May 2020, 17:24:41
The anchor seems a bit random. Why is GrayStudio instagram seems to be promoting the old light bulb logo for V2 when the board seems to be heading toward the anchor logo. A unified branding will creates a stronger branding. It creates confusion when the front is a light bulb yet the back is an anchor. Be consistent with branding when doing promotion, a style guide will help with that.
Love both. From outside perspective, the light bulb seems to emote "Think6.5 v2.0" while the anchor says "ReThink6.5". If you are mixing both of the logo on the same board, then one of the logo will look like an "after thought".
However, I understand doing a redesign is hard: you want to retain the old audience while pushing changes. From my experience, if you want to create a new look and feel, you have to be bold. Being consistent will make the design more holistic. Right now, the front of the board doesn't seems to speak the same design language as the back.
This summarizes my feelings on the whole anchor theme. The thing that makes Think unique as an enthusiast board is that it already has a following because of a strongly established look and brand; to change it while keeping it named the same betrays expectations, and potentially leads to disappointment.
Right now I think the design is suffering a bit of schizophrenia because it incorporates elements that fans recognize (the name, the lightbulb) but combines it with thematic elements that don't make sense (the sailboat, the anchor). If you had to rely on a paragraph of text explaining the meaning of those new elements, is it successful as a design?
Granted, I understand how oldcat feels - the anchor theme is something that he and his wife love on a personal level, and it's clear that he has an investment in making improvements and doing something different than before. But I would counter that oldcat should probably THiNK about just making it a new board with a bold new design instead, so that people have the right expectations about it. Personally, this would have been an insta-buy for me if it were just a design refresh of the Think6.5 with a gasket mount and a more seamless design - but the misplaced nautical elements are enough for me to reconsider.
This is the exact problem of inconsistent design language and branding. When your audience wants you to engrave "THiNK" into the board, a light bulb should pop up and make you think why engraving "THiNK" was necessary. I'm not saying this is good or bad, just something to think about.
Now, this is completely my opinion. I think the brand Think6.5 is too deeply connected with the light bulb. People associate Think6.5 with the gear looking light bulb. So when you presented them with an anchor, even after paragraphs of story and description, they still want the "Think" to be engraved on there. A logo identifies, not describe -- I'm quoting Sagi Haviv and Brian Collins (Haviv did branding for National Geographic etc. and Brian Collins did Spotify etc.). Adding "v2.0" seems like a cheap compromise just for brand loyalty retention.
Again, this is purely on the branding perspective. Nothing I said was about badge placement or case design. However, to me, branding helps guide the design. Without a clear branding, it is hard to achieve a holistic design.
Post by: 0pokn on Sat, 02 May 2020, 19:59:43
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 May 2020, 20:33:39
I really hope we can keep talking about the Sailboat badge, or having an MOQ for those of us who want it. Having the whole anchor design, I think it will go nicely with the theme. with some nice Blue caps! Hopefully I am not the only one who feels this way!
Some old renders for you (some details have been changed in the latest design but new renders aren’t out yet).
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Post by: oldcat on Sat, 02 May 2020, 22:37:22
12. Tweak "THiNK" engraving location: working on
13. Rubber feet do not cover screw holes.: working on
14. Consider a tweak to the rear end (currently it's a magnet badge attached to the bottom case - won't work well with PC) to enable PC production: working on
Post by: Domantas on Sun, 03 May 2020, 07:36:05
Post by: noorejji on Sun, 03 May 2020, 07:47:08
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 03 May 2020, 10:04:19
Plan to work on a Thonk badge or artisan. Would anyone be interested?
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Post by: foysauce_ on Sun, 03 May 2020, 10:50:01
Came across this stock art with CC-SA4.0 license which I can modify and use
Plan to work on a Thonk badge or artisan. Would anyone be interested?
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It would definitely be unique and pretty funny :D
Post by: Vadurr on Sun, 03 May 2020, 12:59:05
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 03 May 2020, 13:09:48
totally down for a dogethink or catthink badge LOL
Cat think designed by Fannie, thoughts?
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Post by: oldcat on Sun, 03 May 2020, 13:11:48
That would be super cool!!! The old logo was very clean and modern. A cat would be sick though!You should use the old logo or your avatar. Def be interested then. Not feeling the new logos. Too flashy
Thanks bro. I've been trying to get a cat badge going - stuck with my (un)creative mind!
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CatThink designs out! Credits go to my friend Fannie.
Post by: Vadurr on Sun, 03 May 2020, 13:23:17
totally down for a dogethink or catthink badge LOL
Cat think designed by Fannie, thoughts?
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I like catthink #2
Post by: asciisii on Sun, 03 May 2020, 13:35:36
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sun, 03 May 2020, 15:42:19
totally down for a dogethink or catthink badge LOL
Cat think designed by Fannie, thoughts?
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Personally, they’re not really for me. Not my style. That being said, of them, #1 is my favorite, as it seems to be most similar to/evocative of your logo (IMO).
Post by: d0wngrade on Sun, 03 May 2020, 15:45:15
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 03 May 2020, 16:25:03
totally down for a dogethink or catthink badge LOL
Cat think designed by Fannie, thoughts?
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Personally, they’re not really for me. Not my style. That being said, of them, #1 is my favorite, as it seems to be most similar to/evocative of your logo (IMO).
Thanks. CatThink or Thonk, if are to happen, will not be the default badge. I would like the lightbulb to be the default badge (either 1U or 2U).
Post by: quadrotiles on Sun, 03 May 2020, 16:34:12
Post by: Spicemaster on Sun, 03 May 2020, 19:12:48
I'm torn between catthink 1 and 3
I'm in the same boat. I like the idea for Catthink, 1 and 3 would be my votes
Post by: dustinhxc on Sun, 03 May 2020, 23:25:33
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Post by: beekey on Mon, 04 May 2020, 01:38:49
1. or 3.totally down for a dogethink or catthink badge LOL
Cat think designed by Fannie, thoughts?
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Post by: dibkib on Mon, 04 May 2020, 02:30:16
But I would counter that oldcat should probably THiNK about just making it a new board with a bold new design instead, so that people have the right expectations about it. Personally, this would have been an insta-buy for me if it were just a design refresh of the Think6.5 with a gasket mount and a more seamless design - but the misplaced nautical elements are enough for me to reconsider.
This exactly. I'm following the thread in the hope that there's a non-maritime option offered eventually. If it stays, I don't think I'll be purchasing a board, because it's not what I want from a THiNK board. It's not a bad design, but it's not representative of what I've come to associate THiNK with, and it feels too much like two discordant elements are being forced together, except they don't go particularly well together.
Post by: PvtSkittles on Mon, 04 May 2020, 03:06:25
Post by: youreyesonly on Mon, 04 May 2020, 04:43:52
Also, anyway to have a hot swap PCB?
Post by: OsoKekkou on Mon, 04 May 2020, 05:39:11
Post by: unsuredreamz on Mon, 04 May 2020, 07:08:54
Post by: foysauce_ on Mon, 04 May 2020, 08:26:42
totally down for a dogethink or catthink badge LOL
Cat think designed by Fannie, thoughts?
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Cat #1 and #3!
Post by: neutralstate on Mon, 04 May 2020, 08:39:04
Post by: spinozsa on Mon, 04 May 2020, 09:07:20
The anchor seems a bit random. Why is GrayStudio instagram seems to be promoting the old light bulb logo for V2 when the board seems to be heading toward the anchor logo. A unified branding will creates a stronger branding. It creates confusion when the front is a light bulb yet the back is an anchor. Be consistent with branding when doing promotion, a style guide will help with that.
Love both. From outside perspective, the light bulb seems to emote "Think6.5 v2.0" while the anchor says "ReThink6.5". If you are mixing both of the logo on the same board, then one of the logo will look like an "after thought".
However, I understand doing a redesign is hard: you want to retain the old audience while pushing changes. From my experience, if you want to create a new look and feel, you have to be bold. Being consistent will make the design more holistic. Right now, the front of the board doesn't seems to speak the same design language as the back.
I agree with this so much, but he seems so biased in wanting to keep it at this point. Seems that's the case because his wife recommended it if the backstory is anything to go off of.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 May 2020, 11:47:04
A bit change to the rear (for the better I think) is being made to optimize for PC production, more details to come!
(https://i.imgur.com/O7JbHtY.png)
Post by: FTR_Beat on Mon, 04 May 2020, 12:02:42
So PC option confirmed huh... :thumb:
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 04 May 2020, 12:08:25
Some PC renders here:
A bit change to the rear (for the better I think) is being made to optimize for PC production, more details to come!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/O7JbHtY.png)
All three look so good x__x
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 04 May 2020, 13:21:27
Post by: Mainian on Mon, 04 May 2020, 15:18:55
Some PC renders here:
A bit change to the rear (for the better I think) is being made to optimize for PC production, more details to come!
I think I prefer an inlaid badge design, with the case running the around the entire board? I guess I haven't seen the any boards with a badge like this in person, but wouldn't error tolerance between cast top and badge be much lower with a design like this, gaps and spacing issues would be much easier to spot, etc...?
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 May 2020, 16:55:07
looks super clean!
So PC option confirmed huh... :thumb:
YES!
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 May 2020, 19:27:41
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Post by: aclassynerd on Mon, 04 May 2020, 20:20:22
Anyone like this badge? Just a thought. Potter said we choose 1 marine theme badge (out of the 4 designed). Lightbulb badge will be made for sure.
(Attachment Link)
I like it. Looks more consistent. Maybe take out the line underneath that anchor?
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 04 May 2020, 21:40:29
Anyone like this badge? Just a thought. Potter said we choose 1 marine theme badge (out of the 4 designed). Lightbulb badge will be made for sure.
(Attachment Link)
I like it. Looks more consistent. Maybe take out the line underneath that anchor?
It is the RGB lighting shining through a diffuser from underneath the badge, similar for other badges :)
Post by: dereknt on Mon, 04 May 2020, 21:55:51
Post by: Anj on Mon, 04 May 2020, 22:41:25
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 May 2020, 02:09:33
I think the latest nautical theme deserve its own name instead of being a "v2.0". I looked at it and I don't see any Think6.5 characteristic in it. Please don't get me wrong, I think it is beautiful and to be on its own.
Just playing with badge designs. I will make some for my own use but most of them will be left out of the GB except the weight which I really loved.
One more think element is forthcoming to the design :)
Post by: dibkib on Tue, 05 May 2020, 02:42:42
I think the latest nautical theme deserve its own name instead of being a "v2.0". I looked at it and I don't see any Think6.5 characteristic in it. Please don't get me wrong, I think it is beautiful and to be on its own.
Just playing with badge designs. I will make some for my own use but most of them will be left out of the GB except the weight which I really loved.
One more think element is forthcoming to the design :)
But the weight is arguably the most prominent part of the nautical theme that a number of people are not so keen to see in this v2.0 and are saying should be its own board. I don't know, make it a separate KVID-20 board or something to remember if you're so intent on the backstory, but right now, adding this to THiNK is like Pringles saying they want to branch out and do popcorn haha
Post by: Ultimatum on Tue, 05 May 2020, 02:49:24
Anyone like this badge? Just a thought. Potter said we choose 1 marine theme badge (out of the 4 designed). Lightbulb badge will be made for sure.
(Attachment Link)
I like it!
Post by: Vireca on Tue, 05 May 2020, 06:58:52
Post by: Shiftbuzz on Tue, 05 May 2020, 08:49:26
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 May 2020, 09:14:32
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Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 May 2020, 10:33:53
There will be 3 additional rear designs I have finished and am rendering at this moment. And a major poll about the USB connector outlet will be live tomorrow, stay tuned! Thanks to many friends for the feedback. Let me know your thoughts!
(https://i.imgur.com/5xTGZ8J.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/iju9gCc.png)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 05 May 2020, 11:20:11
I tweaked the rear side by removing the magnetic stripe badge that attaches to the bottom, so that the polycarbonate version can be properly machined and assembled.
There will be 3 additional rear designs I have finished and am rendering at this moment. And a major poll about the USB connector outlet will be live tomorrow, stay tuned! Thanks to many friends for the feedback. Let me know your thoughts!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5xTGZ8J.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iju9gCc.png)
There was a magnetic stripe badge? How did I miss that? Also looks good!!
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Tue, 05 May 2020, 11:21:14
I tweaked the rear side by removing the magnetic stripe badge that attaches to the bottom, so that the polycarbonate version can be properly machined and assembled.
There will be 3 additional rear designs I have finished and am rendering at this moment. And a major poll about the USB connector outlet will be live tomorrow, stay tuned! Thanks to many friends for the feedback. Let me know your thoughts!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5xTGZ8J.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iju9gCc.png)
I didn't notice the stripe but I do like the clean look :thumb:
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 May 2020, 11:51:54
I tweaked the rear side by removing the magnetic stripe badge that attaches to the bottom, so that the polycarbonate version can be properly machined and assembled.
There will be 3 additional rear designs I have finished and am rendering at this moment. And a major poll about the USB connector outlet will be live tomorrow, stay tuned! Thanks to many friends for the feedback. Let me know your thoughts!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5xTGZ8J.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iju9gCc.png)
There was a magnetic stripe badge? How did I miss that? Also looks good!!
Haha there was indeed. Didn't pop out in discussions really so I think people aren't really impressed by the stripe badge, and it will be a nightmare to work with PC using that design, so I cut the magnetic stripe badge out.
Post by: beekey on Tue, 05 May 2020, 12:05:59
I tweaked the rear side by removing the magnetic stripe badge that attaches to the bottom, so that the polycarbonate version can be properly machined and assembled.Looks nice, still like the 2u bottom position better. Hope there will be nice colour combinations.
There will be 3 additional rear designs I have finished and am rendering at this moment. And a major poll about the USB connector outlet will be live tomorrow, stay tuned! Thanks to many friends for the feedback. Let me know your thoughts!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5xTGZ8J.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iju9gCc.png)
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 05 May 2020, 13:38:45
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 05 May 2020, 13:58:05
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 May 2020, 17:18:37
@oldcat do you think you'll publish the files for the badges again? I'm sure I'll like something from the options offered, but it definitely seems like a fun thing to play with.
Yeah can do that after the GB fulfillment (just need to confirm with Potter). One little caveat is that this badge design will have magnets and if you make a badge you also need to source right-sized magnets :)
Post by: dustinhxc on Tue, 05 May 2020, 17:50:03
This PC one is FIRE! Love it... Emblem in corner. Partial translucent. Clean!
Post by: Freyon on Tue, 05 May 2020, 17:50:41
I'd love to see a top right 1u badge with an upright, backlit lightbulb. Also, the badge showing on the side profile looks kinda weird to me. I think it'll look a lot cleaner if it's entirely mounted on top, like the iron165
On another note, keep up the great work! I really appreciate your openness and transparency. I have high hopes for you guys, been looking forward to an r2 :D
Post by: ScullyD on Tue, 05 May 2020, 20:17:06
Anyone like this badge? Just a thought. Potter said we choose 1 marine theme badge (out of the 4 designed). Lightbulb badge will be made for sure.
(Attachment Link)
Absolutely love this badge. Just take my money please!
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 05 May 2020, 21:08:06
I feel that the board should be called something else if it doesn't have the original badge placement, or if the top right 1u badge isn't a lightbulb. The design of the case is noticeably different, and if the two signature features of the think are removed, it doesn't really seem like a v2 of the same board :-\
I'd love to see a top right 1u badge with an upright, backlit lightbulb. Also, the badge showing on the side profile looks kinda weird to me. I think it'll look a lot cleaner if it's entirely mounted on top, like the iron165
On another note, keep up the great work! I really appreciate your openness and transparency. I have high hopes for you guys, been looking forward to an r2 :D
Thanks for the feedback. Believe the naming issue has been addressed earlier. It is now called v2 (meaning there are substantive changes) as opposed to r2 (more of a replica). It is also for convenience as I do not have plans for other projects or 'lines of keyboards.'
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 06 May 2020, 01:40:39
Anyone like this badge? Just a thought. Potter said we choose 1 marine theme badge (out of the 4 designed). Lightbulb badge will be made for sure.
(Attachment Link)
Absolutely love this badge. Just take my money please!
Thanks bro!
Post by: Hoennn on Wed, 06 May 2020, 11:41:57
Locked.
Top right placement is preference.
super off topic, but how did you get all of those banners in your signature? I have a few of them on mine but only like 3 show up
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 06 May 2020, 11:44:19
Locked.
Top right placement is preference.
super off topic, but how did you get all of those banners in your signature? I have a few of them on mine but only like 3 show up
Copy and paste the code into the signature portion of your forum profile page. If they have different aspect ratios, there might be problems with them all showing up. Idk if there is a limit on how many you can have.
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 06 May 2020, 12:41:05
Any thoughts?
(https://openmoji.org/data/black/svg/1F914.svg)
Disclaimer: this is a stock art by Emily Jäger, under CC BY-SA 4.0 license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 06 May 2020, 13:01:16
I will be designing a couple of Thonk artisans based on this open emoji: https://openmoji.org/library/#search=think&emoji=1F914
Any thoughts?Show Image(https://openmoji.org/data/black/svg/1F914.svg)
Disclaimer: this is a stock art by Emily Jäger, under CC BY-SA 4.0 license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
I like the emoji. I am a little weird with artisans though. I don't personally like artisans that deviate from the profile of the rest of the keys. For example, I'm a sucker for RAMA keycaps and things like the Dwarf Factory Apollo artisans, but artisans that are sculptures or what have you don't do it for me. Again, all personal.
Post by: dereknt on Wed, 06 May 2020, 13:29:44
I will be designing a couple of Thonk artisans based on this open emoji: https://openmoji.org/library/#search=think&emoji=1F914
Any thoughts?Show Image(https://openmoji.org/data/black/svg/1F914.svg)
Disclaimer: this is a stock art by Emily Jäger, under CC BY-SA 4.0 license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
We can have this as an easter eggs engraving some where in the keyboard LOL or we can print it on the PCB. *Thonk*
Post by: ritingon on Wed, 06 May 2020, 14:32:27
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 06 May 2020, 15:25:45
I will be designing a couple of Thonk artisans based on this open emoji: https://openmoji.org/library/#search=think&emoji=1F914
Any thoughts?Show Image(https://openmoji.org/data/black/svg/1F914.svg)
Disclaimer: this is a stock art by Emily Jäger, under CC BY-SA 4.0 license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
I like the emoji. I am a little weird with artisans though. I don't personally like artisans that deviate from the profile of the rest of the keys. For example, I'm a sucker for RAMA keycaps and things like the Dwarf Factory Apollo artisans, but artisans that are sculptures or what have you don't do it for me. Again, all personal.
Yeah, it will be cherry profile R1 height (ESC in 65% boards) :)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 06 May 2020, 15:31:06
I will be designing a couple of Thonk artisans based on this open emoji: https://openmoji.org/library/#search=think&emoji=1F914
Any thoughts?Show Image(https://openmoji.org/data/black/svg/1F914.svg)
Disclaimer: this is a stock art by Emily Jäger, under CC BY-SA 4.0 license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
I like the emoji. I am a little weird with artisans though. I don't personally like artisans that deviate from the profile of the rest of the keys. For example, I'm a sucker for RAMA keycaps and things like the Dwarf Factory Apollo artisans, but artisans that are sculptures or what have you don't do it for me. Again, all personal.
Yeah, it will be cherry profile R1 height (ESC in 65% boards) :)
Bless. Goodbye, money
Post by: Sªint on Wed, 06 May 2020, 16:13:34
Post by: ninjacore on Wed, 06 May 2020, 21:14:40
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 06 May 2020, 22:48:51
Really like the detail around the usb port :)
Love it too! As a matter of fact I designed 4 USB outlets, they all kind of look nice, and will put up a comparison image and a poll soon!
Post by: musicgecko on Wed, 06 May 2020, 23:07:10
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 07 May 2020, 01:29:35
Please let there be a polycarbonate version, would love to have one.
Yes!
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 07 May 2020, 12:28:26
(https://i.imgur.com/yARzNbR.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/COtWC5N.png)
Cast your vote to shape the final design!
Post by: Vadurr on Thu, 07 May 2020, 13:36:39
New Poll about the USB outlet design choice and the Keyboard Compatible Layout options: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1WVvH6Xy0c0S6COTEKRw8WwBMFHqbKpzIUaLOxDGYIEw/viewformShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/yARzNbR.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/COtWC5N.png)
Went with option D and wkl + split backspace :thumb:
Post by: r0b0t_D3vil on Thu, 07 May 2020, 14:13:38
Post by: fabijolo on Thu, 07 May 2020, 14:42:53
Post by: musicgecko on Thu, 07 May 2020, 15:49:27
also any chance glass fiber enhanced PC or dyed PC will be in this round?
Post by: StanleyLelnats on Thu, 07 May 2020, 16:17:36
Post by: TeslaDev on Thu, 07 May 2020, 16:23:48
Mentally preparing to snap this up already. Amazing work. :thumb:
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 07 May 2020, 17:40:28
Loving B and Default layout!
Mentally preparing to snap this up already. Amazing work. :thumb:
Thank you very much! Come to reply to this since your username is super awesome!
Post by: RedRhyno on Thu, 07 May 2020, 17:49:25
Post by: dustinhxc on Thu, 07 May 2020, 18:19:47
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 07 May 2020, 20:59:27
option B, much cleaner to me.
also any chance glass fiber enhanced PC or dyed PC will be in this round?
Most likely no black PC this time... it was unfortunately much harder to machine and costly to surface treatment.
Post by: aclassynerd on Thu, 07 May 2020, 22:00:36
Maybe instead of the gear make it look like a boats wheel (helm?) ? idk just throwing ideas
I vote D for consistency cuz of that boat.
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 07 May 2020, 22:49:55
Love the gear detail, but seems a little inconsistent with the sailboat (badge) and anchor.
Maybe instead of the gear make it look like a boats wheel (helm?) ? idk just throwing ideas
I vote D for consistency cuz of that boat.
Boat badge is unfortunately voted the last place and most likely it will be gone. Anchor weight will stay.
Post by: Roddin on Fri, 08 May 2020, 02:48:48
Post by: FTR_Beat on Fri, 08 May 2020, 08:39:36
New Poll about the USB outlet design choice and the Keyboard Compatible Layout options: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1WVvH6Xy0c0S6COTEKRw8WwBMFHqbKpzIUaLOxDGYIEw/viewformShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/yARzNbR.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/COtWC5N.png)
Cast your vote to shape the final design!
I think D looks best. However, since this is a cut out, A and B would be my preference to get a seamless enclosure, case.
I am probably the only one who voted A and default =)
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 08 May 2020, 09:42:25
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:. may i know when the GB will be open?
depending on the progress of the space65 GB. Potter will start this GB after the space65 ships. So far the progress is looking good, so we should be looking at Q3 sometime. I will update the GB date as we get closer to space65 shipping.
Post by: PotatoTM on Fri, 08 May 2020, 10:52:24
Most likely no black PC this time... it was unfortunately much harder to machine and costly to surface treatment.
Boat badge is unfortunately voted the last place and most likely it will be gone. Anchor weight will stay.
Damn unfortunate, these were the 2 I was most looking forward to. Guess I don't share popular opinion :(. Still looking forward to how this GB turns out!
Post by: MadsMe on Fri, 08 May 2020, 11:52:05
New Poll about the USB outlet design choice and the Keyboard Compatible Layout options: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1WVvH6Xy0c0S6COTEKRw8WwBMFHqbKpzIUaLOxDGYIEw/viewformShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/yARzNbR.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/COtWC5N.png)
Cast your vote to shape the final design!
Any chance that the boat engraving on option D will appear on the others? Or atleast an engraving of any kind?
Post by: kwhilden on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:02:47
Post by: MaouPS on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:35:59
When you make a split-space-bar option... Please make an option for the 2.75u to be on the left side. I always hit space with my left thumb. 2.25u on the left is too small and that's why I didn't get the Cyber voyager
+1, I wish this is more common.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 08 May 2020, 16:38:26
When you make a split-space-bar option... Please make an option for the 2.75u to be on the left side. I always hit space with my left thumb. 2.25u on the left is too small and that's why I didn't get the Cyber voyager
+1, I wish this is more common.
As someone who always presses space bar with their right thumb, it fascinates me when I see someone always using their left or both. It's like crossing your arms with the opposite arm on top; using my left thumb to press space bar just feels so weird to me. Anyway, I'm not criticizing. I don't even use split space bar. I just have too much social-distancing-induced free time, and I thought I'd bump this IC. Sorry for the spam.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 08 May 2020, 21:38:43
New Poll about the USB outlet design choice and the Keyboard Compatible Layout options: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1WVvH6Xy0c0S6COTEKRw8WwBMFHqbKpzIUaLOxDGYIEw/viewformShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/yARzNbR.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/COtWC5N.png)
Cast your vote to shape the final design!
Any chance that the boat engraving on option D will appear on the others? Or atleast an engraving of any kind?
Thanks, will think about this!
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 08 May 2020, 23:59:38
When you make a split-space-bar option... Please make an option for the 2.75u to be on the left side. I always hit space with my left thumb. 2.25u on the left is too small and that's why I didn't get the Cyber voyager
Will consider if there is enough interest for split space. There are also people who want 3u-3u. It will require a lot of cuts to the plate, which I try to avoid.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 09 May 2020, 11:43:24
(https://i.imgur.com/DyiZdE8.png)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sat, 09 May 2020, 11:46:54
brought the LED lightstrip (above the badge) back to the 2U badge version, do you like it with or without LED lightstrip above where the badge is?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DyiZdE8.png)
I feel like it detracts a little from the backlighting in the badge, but I wouldn’t complain if you kept it. I’ll defer to you or others who may have a stronger opinion.
Post by: Roddin on Sat, 09 May 2020, 14:43:00
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:. may i know when the GB will be open?
depending on the progress of the space65 GB. Potter will start this GB after the space65 ships. So far the progress is looking good, so we should be looking at Q3 sometime. I will update the GB date as we get closer to space65 shipping.
thanks for the update bro. can't wait. lol
Post by: DeVita on Sat, 09 May 2020, 17:25:42
Post by: spinozsa on Sat, 09 May 2020, 19:07:08
Boat badge is unfortunately voted the last place and most likely it will be gone. Anchor weight will stay.
Anchor weight will stay? Are you that desperate to please your wife and not have her idea shot down despite many others not liking it?
Post by: jackofclubs on Sat, 09 May 2020, 19:19:10
When you make a split-space-bar option... Please make an option for the 2.75u to be on the left side. I always hit space with my left thumb. 2.25u on the left is too small and that's why I didn't get the Cyber voyager
Will consider if there is enough interest for split space. There are also people who want 3u-3u. It will require a lot of cuts to the plate, which I try to avoid.
Yes +1 for the left 2.75u or 2 3us pleaaassssee! Also anything with the boat that can still be salvaged... I loved the nautical theme :/
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sat, 09 May 2020, 19:26:27
Boat badge is unfortunately voted the last place and most likely it will be gone. Anchor weight will stay.
Anchor weight will stay? Are you that desperate to please your wife and not have her idea shot down despite many others not liking it?
Hey. Be polite. Not cool.
Post by: Spicemaster on Sat, 09 May 2020, 20:41:00
Boat badge is unfortunately voted the last place and most likely it will be gone. Anchor weight will stay.
Anchor weight will stay? Are you that desperate to please your wife and not have her idea shot down despite many others not liking it?
Hey. Be polite. Not cool.
Yea, just here to affirm ^^ ain't cool.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 10 May 2020, 00:56:57
Boat badge is unfortunately voted the last place and most likely it will be gone. Anchor weight will stay.
Anchor weight will stay? Are you that desperate to please your wife and not have her idea shot down despite many others not liking it?
I personally like the anchor design way more than R1 weight, aesthetically. Thanks. And there are many who like it. Can't please everyone unfortunately :)
Post by: noorejji on Sun, 10 May 2020, 01:59:29
Boat badge is unfortunately voted the last place and most likely it will be gone. Anchor weight will stay.That’s too bad. GL w/GB.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 10 May 2020, 02:10:55
Boat badge is unfortunately voted the last place and most likely it will be gone. Anchor weight will stay.That’s too bad. GL w/GB.
Purely from aesthetic view, I feel boat badge won’t look good in 2U format, so I didn’t t even render it. It might actually looks great in 1U format so who knows I may be crazy enough to provide it eventually.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 10 May 2020, 11:43:33
I will be designing a couple of Thonk artisans based on this open emoji: https://openmoji.org/library/#search=think&emoji=1F914
Any thoughts?Show Image(https://openmoji.org/data/black/svg/1F914.svg)
Disclaimer: this is a stock art by Emily Jäger, under CC BY-SA 4.0 license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
We can have this as an easter eggs engraving some where in the keyboard LOL or we can print it on the PCB. *Thonk*
Haha for sure, will think about where to engrave or print it :)
Post by: DEMO S on Sun, 10 May 2020, 15:40:00
Post by: JvMil on Sun, 10 May 2020, 16:37:53
Post by: ScullyD on Sun, 10 May 2020, 16:46:46
brought the LED lightstrip (above the badge) back to the 2U badge version, do you like it with or without LED lightstrip above where the badge is?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DyiZdE8.png)
I dig the light strip, i think it also depends on the board color. On white or polycarbonate it won't be as distracting, but might be distracting on darker colors.
Post by: spinozsa on Sun, 10 May 2020, 19:18:40
Boat badge is unfortunately voted the last place and most likely it will be gone. Anchor weight will stay.
Anchor weight will stay? Are you that desperate to please your wife and not have her idea shot down despite many others not liking it?
I personally like the anchor design way more than R1 weight, aesthetically. Thanks. And there are many who like it. Can't please everyone unfortunately :)
Why not put up a vote for it? A vote to see if people either want the previous think logo, the anchor, with maybe 'other' as a third option.
Post by: OsoKekkou on Sun, 10 May 2020, 20:18:39
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 10 May 2020, 23:00:40
brought the LED lightstrip (above the badge) back to the 2U badge version, do you like it with or without LED lightstrip above where the badge is?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DyiZdE8.png)
I dig the light strip, i think it also depends on the board color. On white or polycarbonate it won't be as distracting, but might be distracting on darker colors.
Will check with DemoS if strip light can be separately controlled from the badge light.
Post by: L8T on Sun, 10 May 2020, 23:42:11
Post by: Koalified on Mon, 11 May 2020, 01:08:05
Post by: aclassynerd on Mon, 11 May 2020, 03:07:05
Boat badge is unfortunately voted the last place and most likely it will be gone. Anchor weight will stay.That’s too bad. GL w/GB.
Purely from aesthetic view, I feel boat badge won’t look good in 2U format, so I didn’t t even render it. It might actually looks great in 1U format so who knows I may be crazy enough to provide it eventually.
please get crazy! im curious to see ;D
Post by: Cresc3nt on Mon, 11 May 2020, 05:25:48
Post by: KillerkratZ on Mon, 11 May 2020, 06:28:09
If not, i don't think its worth the extra cost to make it.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 11 May 2020, 12:07:54
Credit: original emoji art by Emily Jäger, under CC BY-SA 4.0 license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
(https://i.imgur.com/Qyffab2.jpg)
Post by: SxM Designs on Mon, 11 May 2020, 12:24:21
Will you have a vendor for EU?
Post by: r0b0t_D3vil on Mon, 11 May 2020, 14:31:35
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 11 May 2020, 18:34:35
Hi,
Will you have a vendor for EU?
Hey my friend, I thought about it, just feeling shipping via DHL from China might actually be cheaper for buyers?
Post by: Vaudevi77ain on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:07:49
Post by: sttppl on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:29:06
And I wish I had a cat light bulb badge.
Post by: musicgecko on Mon, 11 May 2020, 23:22:32
Post by: Ooga Booga on Tue, 12 May 2020, 00:56:33
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 12 May 2020, 11:10:13
I think the OG version is better.
And I wish I had a cat light bulb badge.
Thanks, I tried multiple times actually, and the cat badge actually doesn't look that good, hope cat artisan will turn out nicely.
Post by: JoltFX on Tue, 12 May 2020, 14:13:46
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Post by: oldcat on Tue, 12 May 2020, 15:35:48
(https://i.imgur.com/8lddXrO.jpg)
Post by: VictorVallecano on Tue, 12 May 2020, 15:45:11
What concerns the badge. Imo, emoji is not as great as gears/bulbs. Emoji with a gear looks like a grumpy wife with curlers, sorry ;D
Post by: SxM Designs on Tue, 12 May 2020, 15:51:18
Great KB! I am in.
What concerns the badge. Imo, emoji is not as great as gears/bulbs. Emoji with a gear looks like a grumpy wife with curlers, sorry ;D
Left one is nice!!
Post by: drevan on Tue, 12 May 2020, 16:33:14
Post by: spinozsa on Tue, 12 May 2020, 16:59:25
Will there be voting on the weight, or is that a fixed decision?
We should get the option to vote on this.
Post by: OsoKekkou on Tue, 12 May 2020, 17:21:05
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 12 May 2020, 17:25:28
At 1st glance I thought the left thonk was hair and not a gear because of where the gears stop. If I had to choose id say right thonk though I'm not crazy about either of them. The cat one is a must have!
I agree that the left thonk looks like it has hair, but like not in a good way imo. I similarly prefer the one on the right but am not sure I'd actually buy one.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 12 May 2020, 19:14:44
Will there be voting on the weight, or is that a fixed decision?
We should get the option to vote on this.
Hello my friend, unfortunately, there will not be a poll for the weight. As I said, I am super excited about the new weight as it will look super sick! The background is that after R1 run, many have PM'd me about a redesign of the weight for R2 to be something slicker which I agreed. Again, any design cannot please everyone, but if you really hate it I certainly can understand and I am not trying to convince you that it is perfect, and thanks for the support and feedback. Given I am not in this for the money, I do not intend to poll everything or change major designs according to polls. Polls only inform me on whether anything absolutely needs to be changed. So far I think most things are polling as I a priori excepted, except the '2020' logo which was removed. I feel that I already changed a bit more than I originally wanted but because that was for the betterment of the aesthetics, I am happy with how this turned out.
With all being said, after prototyping is done, I will take real pictures of all badges made and likely have another vote for which one to be made. I can probably make 2 badges max for each layout. I intend to offer lightbulb as the default and 1 optional marine theme badge.
Post by: FTR_Beat on Tue, 12 May 2020, 19:53:44
Made an additional Thonk with gears. Left Thonk or Right Thonk?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8lddXrO.jpg)
Left one looks fun yo! So original.
Post by: aclassynerd on Tue, 12 May 2020, 21:05:07
Will there be voting on the weight, or is that a fixed decision?
We should get the option to vote on this.
Hello my friend, unfortunately, there will not be a poll for the weight. As I said, I am super excited about the new weight as it will look super sick! The background is that after R1 run, many have PM'd me about a redesign of the weight for R2 to be something slicker which I agreed. Again, any design cannot please everyone, but if you really hate it I certainly can understand and I am not trying to convince you that it is perfect, and thanks for the support and feedback. Given I am not in this for the money, I do not intend to poll everything or change major designs according to polls. Polls only inform me on whether anything absolutely needs to be changed. So far I think most things are polling as I a priori excepted, except the '2020' logo which was removed. I feel that I already changed a bit more than I originally wanted but because that was for the betterment of the aesthetics, I am happy with how this turned out.
With all being said, after prototyping is done, I will take real pictures of all badges made and likely have another vote for which one to be made. I can probably make 2 badges max for each layout. I intend to offer lightbulb as the default and 1 optional marine theme badge.
ooh! thanks for considering an optional marine badge!
Post by: spinozsa on Tue, 12 May 2020, 21:29:24
Will there be voting on the weight, or is that a fixed decision?
We should get the option to vote on this.
Hello my friend, unfortunately, there will not be a poll for the weight. As I said, I am super excited about the new weight as it will look super sick! The background is that after R1 run, many have PM'd me about a redesign of the weight for R2 to be something slicker which I agreed. Again, any design cannot please everyone, but if you really hate it I certainly can understand and I am not trying to convince you that it is perfect, and thanks for the support and feedback. Given I am not in this for the money, I do not intend to poll everything or change major designs according to polls. Polls only inform me on whether anything absolutely needs to be changed. So far I think most things are polling as I a priori excepted, except the '2020' logo which was removed. I feel that I already changed a bit more than I originally wanted but because that was for the betterment of the aesthetics, I am happy with how this turned out.
With all being said, after prototyping is done, I will take real pictures of all badges made and likely have another vote for which one to be made. I can probably make 2 badges max for each layout. I intend to offer lightbulb as the default and 1 optional marine theme badge.
Wouldn't you want to see if that's something that might absolutely need to be changed? I still don't see how your brain can reconcile fish/boats with thinking. That's insane cognitive dissonance, which is all the more ironic given the name you're trying to push for it. This should've been named something else, like the anchor 65 or whatever, not think. I agree that a new weight would be more ideal, but it should be related to thinking, not sinking.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 12 May 2020, 23:40:21
Will there be voting on the weight, or is that a fixed decision?
We should get the option to vote on this.
Hello my friend, unfortunately, there will not be a poll for the weight. As I said, I am super excited about the new weight as it will look super sick! The background is that after R1 run, many have PM'd me about a redesign of the weight for R2 to be something slicker which I agreed. Again, any design cannot please everyone, but if you really hate it I certainly can understand and I am not trying to convince you that it is perfect, and thanks for the support and feedback. Given I am not in this for the money, I do not intend to poll everything or change major designs according to polls. Polls only inform me on whether anything absolutely needs to be changed. So far I think most things are polling as I a priori excepted, except the '2020' logo which was removed. I feel that I already changed a bit more than I originally wanted but because that was for the betterment of the aesthetics, I am happy with how this turned out.
With all being said, after prototyping is done, I will take real pictures of all badges made and likely have another vote for which one to be made. I can probably make 2 badges max for each layout. I intend to offer lightbulb as the default and 1 optional marine theme badge.
Wouldn't you want to see if that's something that might absolutely need to be changed? I still don't see how your brain can reconcile fish/boats with thinking. That's insane cognitive dissonance, which is all the more ironic given the name you're trying to push for it. This should've been named something else, like the anchor 65 or whatever, not think. I agree that a new weight would be more ideal, but it should be related to thinking, not sinking.
Again, thanks for the feedback. But let's just agree to disagree. Further debates on the weight design are unnecessary.
Post by: SL1ST on Wed, 13 May 2020, 00:49:56
Post by: spinozsa on Wed, 13 May 2020, 11:15:47
Will there be voting on the weight, or is that a fixed decision?
We should get the option to vote on this.
Hello my friend, unfortunately, there will not be a poll for the weight. As I said, I am super excited about the new weight as it will look super sick! The background is that after R1 run, many have PM'd me about a redesign of the weight for R2 to be something slicker which I agreed. Again, any design cannot please everyone, but if you really hate it I certainly can understand and I am not trying to convince you that it is perfect, and thanks for the support and feedback. Given I am not in this for the money, I do not intend to poll everything or change major designs according to polls. Polls only inform me on whether anything absolutely needs to be changed. So far I think most things are polling as I a priori excepted, except the '2020' logo which was removed. I feel that I already changed a bit more than I originally wanted but because that was for the betterment of the aesthetics, I am happy with how this turned out.
With all being said, after prototyping is done, I will take real pictures of all badges made and likely have another vote for which one to be made. I can probably make 2 badges max for each layout. I intend to offer lightbulb as the default and 1 optional marine theme badge.
Wouldn't you want to see if that's something that might absolutely need to be changed? I still don't see how your brain can reconcile fish/boats with thinking. That's insane cognitive dissonance, which is all the more ironic given the name you're trying to push for it. This should've been named something else, like the anchor 65 or whatever, not think. I agree that a new weight would be more ideal, but it should be related to thinking, not sinking.
Again, thanks for the feedback. But let's just agree to disagree. Further debates on the weight design are unnecessary.
There is no such thing as agreeing to disagree, Aumann's Agreement Theorem literally states otherwise. Either one of us is wrong, or we're both wrong. Someone else other than you should be in charge of 'thinking' how this should look like, you're full of contradictions and weak logic.
Post by: jayiskuhl on Wed, 13 May 2020, 11:42:44
Will there be voting on the weight, or is that a fixed decision?
We should get the option to vote on this.
Hello my friend, unfortunately, there will not be a poll for the weight. As I said, I am super excited about the new weight as it will look super sick! The background is that after R1 run, many have PM'd me about a redesign of the weight for R2 to be something slicker which I agreed. Again, any design cannot please everyone, but if you really hate it I certainly can understand and I am not trying to convince you that it is perfect, and thanks for the support and feedback. Given I am not in this for the money, I do not intend to poll everything or change major designs according to polls. Polls only inform me on whether anything absolutely needs to be changed. So far I think most things are polling as I a priori excepted, except the '2020' logo which was removed. I feel that I already changed a bit more than I originally wanted but because that was for the betterment of the aesthetics, I am happy with how this turned out.
With all being said, after prototyping is done, I will take real pictures of all badges made and likely have another vote for which one to be made. I can probably make 2 badges max for each layout. I intend to offer lightbulb as the default and 1 optional marine theme badge.
Wouldn't you want to see if that's something that might absolutely need to be changed? I still don't see how your brain can reconcile fish/boats with thinking. That's insane cognitive dissonance, which is all the more ironic given the name you're trying to push for it. This should've been named something else, like the anchor 65 or whatever, not think. I agree that a new weight would be more ideal, but it should be related to thinking, not sinking.
Again, thanks for the feedback. But let's just agree to disagree. Further debates on the weight design are unnecessary.
There is no such thing as agreeing to disagree, Aumann's Agreement Theorem literally states otherwise. Either one of us is wrong, or we're both wrong. Someone else other than you should be in charge of 'thinking' how this should look like, you're full of contradictions and weak logic.
That is his polite way of saying that this won't change no matter how much you berate him. He very clearly stated this won't change so learn to like it or move on.
The name calling and criticism of his way of thinking provide no benefit to anyone and I can't fathom how you thought you would get anywhere with your replies. Talk about logic, are you okay?
Post by: ninjacore on Wed, 13 May 2020, 11:44:38
Will there be voting on the weight, or is that a fixed decision?
We should get the option to vote on this.
Hello my friend, unfortunately, there will not be a poll for the weight. As I said, I am super excited about the new weight as it will look super sick! The background is that after R1 run, many have PM'd me about a redesign of the weight for R2 to be something slicker which I agreed. Again, any design cannot please everyone, but if you really hate it I certainly can understand and I am not trying to convince you that it is perfect, and thanks for the support and feedback. Given I am not in this for the money, I do not intend to poll everything or change major designs according to polls. Polls only inform me on whether anything absolutely needs to be changed. So far I think most things are polling as I a priori excepted, except the '2020' logo which was removed. I feel that I already changed a bit more than I originally wanted but because that was for the betterment of the aesthetics, I am happy with how this turned out.
With all being said, after prototyping is done, I will take real pictures of all badges made and likely have another vote for which one to be made. I can probably make 2 badges max for each layout. I intend to offer lightbulb as the default and 1 optional marine theme badge.
Wouldn't you want to see if that's something that might absolutely need to be changed? I still don't see how your brain can reconcile fish/boats with thinking. That's insane cognitive dissonance, which is all the more ironic given the name you're trying to push for it. This should've been named something else, like the anchor 65 or whatever, not think. I agree that a new weight would be more ideal, but it should be related to thinking, not sinking.
Again, thanks for the feedback. But let's just agree to disagree. Further debates on the weight design are unnecessary.
There is no such thing as agreeing to disagree, Aumann's Agreement Theorem literally states otherwise. Either one of us is wrong, or we're both wrong. Someone else other than you should be in charge of 'thinking' how this should look like, you're full of contradictions and weak logic.
Calm down, duder.
If someone has to be "wrong", it's not going to be the group buy runner. The board design is _his_ idea, not ours. If you don't like it, move along like the rest of us who aren't into boats.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 13 May 2020, 11:49:54
Will there be voting on the weight, or is that a fixed decision?
We should get the option to vote on this.
Hello my friend, unfortunately, there will not be a poll for the weight. As I said, I am super excited about the new weight as it will look super sick! The background is that after R1 run, many have PM'd me about a redesign of the weight for R2 to be something slicker which I agreed. Again, any design cannot please everyone, but if you really hate it I certainly can understand and I am not trying to convince you that it is perfect, and thanks for the support and feedback. Given I am not in this for the money, I do not intend to poll everything or change major designs according to polls. Polls only inform me on whether anything absolutely needs to be changed. So far I think most things are polling as I a priori excepted, except the '2020' logo which was removed. I feel that I already changed a bit more than I originally wanted but because that was for the betterment of the aesthetics, I am happy with how this turned out.
With all being said, after prototyping is done, I will take real pictures of all badges made and likely have another vote for which one to be made. I can probably make 2 badges max for each layout. I intend to offer lightbulb as the default and 1 optional marine theme badge.
Wouldn't you want to see if that's something that might absolutely need to be changed? I still don't see how your brain can reconcile fish/boats with thinking. That's insane cognitive dissonance, which is all the more ironic given the name you're trying to push for it. This should've been named something else, like the anchor 65 or whatever, not think. I agree that a new weight would be more ideal, but it should be related to thinking, not sinking.
Again, thanks for the feedback. But let's just agree to disagree. Further debates on the weight design are unnecessary.
There is no such thing as agreeing to disagree, Aumann's Agreement Theorem literally states otherwise. Either one of us is wrong, or we're both wrong. Someone else other than you should be in charge of 'thinking' how this should look like, you're full of contradictions and weak logic.
To clarify, do you think the anchor doesn't look good? Or are you upset because you don't feel the board's design fits its name, irrespective of how the anchor looks? Would you otherwise like the board if its name were nautically-themed? If you do think the board looks good even though you disapprove of the combination of the design and name, do you feel so strongly about it that you will not be able to bring yourself to buy one despite the fact that the weight faces downward and is infrequently seen relative to the top case?
There is nothing wrong with disliking the board or disagreeing with the alignment of its design and stated design philosophy. However, Oldcat is also entitled to make executive decisions, even if not everyone likes them. That may come at a cost; some may dislike them enough that they won't join the GB, and that's on Oldcat. If too many people disagree with his design decisions, the GB will fail, and that's also on Oldcat. I would urge you to say that though, if that's your position. Knowing that you won't be joining the GB, why, and what it would take for you to join is valuable feedback. Resorting to trying to insult your way to getting what you want is not.
For what it's worth, I happen to agree with you. I don't feel the anchor aligns with the 'think' name and theme. That being said, I happen to also think the board looks good, and I don't strongly care about whether or not the aesthetics align with the design philosophy of someone I've never met.
Post by: supern00b on Wed, 13 May 2020, 11:53:01
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 13 May 2020, 12:13:35
Again, as I have mentioned a couple of times, I like the weight design very much and do not intend to change the weight to V1 version. It’s hard to design a board to the liking of everyone (which is impossible anyway), there are actually many who do not like the V1 gear weight or the R1 badge - still, the board did manage to be liked by many after the GB.
I do believe the comments regarding the weight are not ill-intentioned but out of love of this V2 think6.5, sorry if this does not fit your taste. With all said, V2 is close enough to V1, it certainly warrants the Think6.5 name.
Let's focus on the positive and aspects that can improve the GB experience. Thanks!
And more exciting details to come!
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 13 May 2020, 12:16:34
Consider this a gentle warning that further off-topic and inflammatory posts will not be permitted here, and if you are one that disagrees with the design direction of this board, see above.
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 13 May 2020, 12:17:16
Just wanted to pop in and remind people what it is we're doing here. People are designing keyboards that you can purchase if you like them. In the event that you don't like something, please move along and direct your attention elsewhere. No one owes you anything, nor has any obligation to poll the community to compromise their vision to please the masses. Nothing good comes from needlessly criticizing people for their own design decisions. If it's truly "bad", then the GB will fail and lessons will be learned. :thumb:
Consider this a gentle warning that further off-topic and inflammatory posts will not be permitted here, and if you are one that disagrees with the design direction of this board, see above.
Thanks, and much appreciated!!
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 13 May 2020, 12:38:34
Just wanted to pop in and remind people what it is we're doing here. People are designing keyboards that you can purchase if you like them. In the event that you don't like something, please move along and direct your attention elsewhere. No one owes you anything, nor has any obligation to poll the community to compromise their vision to please the masses. Nothing good comes from needlessly criticizing people for their own design decisions. If it's truly "bad", then the GB will fail and lessons will be learned. :thumb:
Consider this a gentle warning that further off-topic and inflammatory posts will not be permitted here, and if you are one that disagrees with the design direction of this board, see above.
Well Said! I look forward to this GB. :thumb:
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:25:18
(https://i.imgur.com/k8Fruvy.png)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:33:42
Here is a new render for the 1U badge version. The electrophoresis "arctic blue" color shown in the render will be offered during GB.Looks good! I’m so sad I passed on GMK Dracula. Are you thinking about having both anodized and e-coat aluminum? And if so would badges similarly be made with both finishes? Or is it too early to say?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/k8Fruvy.png)
Post by: cohesive_glue on Wed, 13 May 2020, 18:48:33
Post by: gaytore123 on Wed, 13 May 2020, 20:05:51
Post by: houkiaa on Wed, 13 May 2020, 22:09:34
Post by: cloudzeng980 on Wed, 13 May 2020, 23:22:54
Post by: unsuredreamz on Thu, 14 May 2020, 00:35:39
Wish it had hotswap like R1, but still looking forward to this gb!
Oh is it confirmed that there is no hot swap? :O
Post by: SL1ST on Thu, 14 May 2020, 01:09:34
Wish it had hotswap like R1, but still looking forward to this gb!
Oh is it confirmed that there is no hot swap? :O
To be honest, I really liked the old design. I'm not feeling this one (yet). I'm hoping there will be a Polycarbonate version?
Thanks! Yes I do plan to offer PC as long as the GB is not too complicated - weighing different aspects now. Might have to cut out hotswap and badgeless this time.
I made a few changes to the design already with community feedback. Hope you will feel the THiNK soon! And thanks for being patient and tolerant with my new designs.
I'm unsure if it's appropriate to post like this, but it's already been confirmed in discord:
https://discordapp.com/channels/503768726332506133/701193561994952785/707343918035107900 (https://discordapp.com/channels/503768726332506133/701193561994952785/707343918035107900)
(https://i.imgur.com/BJWA09o.png)
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 14 May 2020, 01:58:54
Wish it had hotswap like R1, but still looking forward to this gb!
Oh is it confirmed that there is no hot swap? :OTo be honest, I really liked the old design. I'm not feeling this one (yet). I'm hoping there will be a Polycarbonate version?
Thanks! Yes I do plan to offer PC as long as the GB is not too complicated - weighing different aspects now. Might have to cut out hotswap and badgeless this time.
I made a few changes to the design already with community feedback. Hope you will feel the THiNK soon! And thanks for being patient and tolerant with my new designs.
I'm unsure if it's appropriate to post like this, but it's already been confirmed in discord:
https://discordapp.com/channels/503768726332506133/701193561994952785/707343918035107900 (https://discordapp.com/channels/503768726332506133/701193561994952785/707343918035107900)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BJWA09o.png)
Thanks for sharing this here!
Those were all correct as of now!
Post by: Zaum.Tech on Thu, 14 May 2020, 04:05:13
Post by: spinozsa on Thu, 14 May 2020, 11:49:51
Thanks everyone for the feedback.
Again, as I have mentioned a couple of times, I like the weight design very much and do not intend to change the weight to V1 version. It’s hard to design a board to the liking of everyone (which is impossible anyway), there are actually many who do not like the V1 gear weight or the R1 badge - still, the board did manage to be liked by many after the GB.
I do believe the comments regarding the weight are not ill-intentioned but out of love of this V2 think6.5, sorry if this does not fit your taste. With all said, V2 is close enough to V1, it certainly warrants the Think6.5 name.
Let's focus on the positive and aspects that can improve the GB experience. Thanks!
And more exciting details to come!
I'm not in for the group buy if it's the anchor, if it has something else aligned with thinking, I was planning on buying 2-3 keyboards, 2 for sure. I would prefer something else other than the v1 weight, but if it's a choice between the v1 weight and the v2 weight, I'd take the v1 weight every time. Ideally you'd design something new that's actually related to thinking. Is a new design even up for consideration or are you dead set on that anchor?
This would be better than the anchor, perhaps with some tweaks:
(https://cdn2.iconfinder.com/data/icons/brain-concept-3/64/Gear-Light-inovation-512.png)
Post by: Naja on Thu, 14 May 2020, 12:53:12
Oldcat said many times that the weight design is over, please respect his project, and all the peoples who like, it and wait for an hypothetical V1.5.
Post by: myflowsocold on Thu, 14 May 2020, 15:10:19
Sorry if I didn't read through correctly - but anyone have an estimate on when this will be available?
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Thu, 14 May 2020, 15:17:17
I think the V2 weight logo is fresh and differentiates from the V1 easily! I am definitely in and will eagerly look for updates regarding group buy...
Sorry if I didn't read through correctly - but anyone have an estimate on when this will be available?
Group buy should be after Cybervoyager ships.
Post by: Frostbyte on Thu, 14 May 2020, 17:13:51
Post by: senencito on Thu, 14 May 2020, 17:21:23
Thanks everyone for the feedback.
Again, as I have mentioned a couple of times, I like the weight design very much and do not intend to change the weight to V1 version. It’s hard to design a board to the liking of everyone (which is impossible anyway), there are actually many who do not like the V1 gear weight or the R1 badge - still, the board did manage to be liked by many after the GB.
I do believe the comments regarding the weight are not ill-intentioned but out of love of this V2 think6.5, sorry if this does not fit your taste. With all said, V2 is close enough to V1, it certainly warrants the Think6.5 name.
Let's focus on the positive and aspects that can improve the GB experience. Thanks!
And more exciting details to come!
I'm not in for the group buy if it's the anchor, if it has something else aligned with thinking, I was planning on buying 2-3 keyboards, 2 for sure. I would prefer something else other than the v1 weight, but if it's a choice between the v1 weight and the v2 weight, I'd take the v1 weight every time. Ideally you'd design something new that's actually related to thinking. Is a new design even up for consideration or are you dead set on that anchor?
This would be better than the anchor, perhaps with some tweaks:Show Image(https://cdn2.iconfinder.com/data/icons/brain-concept-3/64/Gear-Light-inovation-512.png)
friend, that train has left the station.
while the anchor weight is not my first choice, I really like it and the entire board is looking fantastic. There's a real good chance I will buy one.
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 14 May 2020, 20:23:05
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 15 May 2020, 00:33:18
I think the V2 weight logo is fresh and differentiates from the V1 easily! I am definitely in and will eagerly look for updates regarding group buy...
Sorry if I didn't read through correctly - but anyone have an estimate on when this will be available?
Group buy should be after Cybervoyager ships.
Thanks! Indeed, do not want to overwhelm airpotter, he will help run the GB after production of Space65 R2 finishes. We should be able to see some prototypes soon though and last time I checked Space65 is running a bit ahead of schedule!
Post by: SirTimmyTimbit on Fri, 15 May 2020, 01:28:11
Can you use any 65% standard PCB with this? If not is hot swap under consideration?
Post by: Hawksmoor on Fri, 15 May 2020, 03:29:39
Sorry can't find a link to search this thread. My apologies if this has been addressed.
Can you use any 65% standard PCB with this? If not is hot swap under consideration?
Has not been explicitly stated that any standard PCB can or cannot be used but doubtful.
Hot Swap has been ruled out.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 15 May 2020, 09:17:32
Sorry can't find a link to search this thread. My apologies if this has been addressed.
Can you use any 65% standard PCB with this? If not is hot swap under consideration?
Hey it will be using a custom PCB. Unfortunately 65% boards do not have a standardized PCB like GH60.
Post by: PvtSkittles on Fri, 15 May 2020, 13:09:59
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 15 May 2020, 16:19:19
I was looking for this but maybe I am too inept/tired. Was there a post showing choices of 2u badge options? Or is there just the one with the lightbulb? Honestly I'm ok with that one but was curious and could have sworn I saw options previously.
Hey, sorry for not being clear enough on this, I updated it to the first post. Both 2U and 1U versions will be made.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 16 May 2020, 00:01:56
(https://i.imgur.com/hbehB8L.png)
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 16 May 2020, 06:04:46
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 16 May 2020, 13:05:22
Thank you for bothering to render the ISO. I much appreciate that and I will be ordering one of these.
Thanks! A big lover of the ISO layout aesthetics here.
Post by: 28.8kbps on Sat, 16 May 2020, 13:54:18
Here is a render for ISO users (GMK Dracular red-addon colorway):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hbehB8L.png)
Love it, looking forward to the GB
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 16 May 2020, 18:44:57
I made 2 versions of the 1U compass badge, which one do you like better?
(https://i.imgur.com/AJGYXZW.png)
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sat, 16 May 2020, 18:47:14
Looks like Compass is the most designed after the lightbulb badge.
I made 2 versions of the 1U compass badge, which one do you like better?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/AJGYXZW.png)
Definitely 2! I like that
Post by: PvtSkittles on Sat, 16 May 2020, 19:03:57
But to answer the previous post regarding compass designs - I prefer #2!
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sat, 16 May 2020, 19:33:40
Looks like Compass is the most designed after the lightbulb badge.
I made 2 versions of the 1U compass badge, which one do you like better?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/AJGYXZW.png)
I'll be going with a 2u board myself, but I'm definitely feeling the one on the right. It's symmetrical across that diagonal axis, and the tilt seems to just make visual sense to me since it will be in the corner.
Post by: fabijolo on Sat, 16 May 2020, 23:46:53
Post by: beekey on Sun, 17 May 2020, 01:20:06
Post by: lamonayon on Sun, 17 May 2020, 01:56:00
Looks like Compass is the most designed after the lightbulb badge.
I made 2 versions of the 1U compass badge, which one do you like better?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/AJGYXZW.png)
2nd one keeps the symmetry but adds a little more as it's slanted!
Post by: locxu on Sun, 17 May 2020, 03:12:12
Post by: ShovelScum on Sun, 17 May 2020, 05:15:48
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 17 May 2020, 11:13:20
(https://i.imgur.com/7KO9zlK.jpg)
Post by: doralikesmath on Sun, 17 May 2020, 11:17:13
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 17 May 2020, 14:53:40
(https://i.imgur.com/HtNHFAK.jpg)
Post by: Scucka on Sun, 17 May 2020, 17:35:56
Post by: Nvr_Smile on Sun, 17 May 2020, 17:36:16
New 1U badge versions featuring Redsun's Red Samurai and Blue Samurai (IC ongoing (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106419.0)) are here:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7KO9zlK.jpg)
That looks great, can't decide which setup looks better. Eagerly awaiting the GB.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 17 May 2020, 19:31:24
New 1U badge versions featuring Redsun's Red Samurai and Blue Samurai (IC ongoing (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106419.0)) are here:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7KO9zlK.jpg)
That looks great, can't decide which setup looks better. Eagerly awaiting the GB.
Thanks! Have some deskmats designed by Fannie and the keyboard prototypes should be out next week or so.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 18 May 2020, 02:49:38
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Post by: Anj on Mon, 18 May 2020, 03:35:53
Post by: enjoidis on Mon, 18 May 2020, 08:12:22
Post by: Frostbyte on Mon, 18 May 2020, 09:25:12
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 18 May 2020, 13:15:41
(https://i.imgur.com/CqT5R1d.png)
Post by: Tilted Toast on Mon, 18 May 2020, 14:05:05
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 18 May 2020, 20:55:31
Any chance for an option to not have a badge at all?
Thanks.
When R1 Think6.5 happened I opted to offer a no badge version, but it turned out not many chose that option. Given the 1U badge version functionally acts very much like a no badge version and received roughly 50% of the votes, I feel it is unnecessary to provide a no-badge version this time.
Post by: pott on Mon, 18 May 2020, 21:49:11
I would love a no-badge option too but well, I guess that's part of the design creed here.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 19 May 2020, 09:32:18
I quite don't get the corner badge being MUCH larger than the key row, aesthetically. But the partial blocker looks absolutely great!
I would love a no-badge option too but well, I guess that's part of the design creed here.
Thanks! Will unveil the locking mechanism for the 1U badge soon, it will be fun!
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 19 May 2020, 09:33:36
(https://i.imgur.com/EYZwk4u.png)
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Tue, 19 May 2020, 09:34:01
I quite don't get the corner badge being MUCH larger than the key row, aesthetically. But the partial blocker looks absolutely great!
I would love a no-badge option too but well, I guess that's part of the design creed here.
Thanks! Will unveil the locking mechanism for the 1U badge soon, it will be fun!
Hey cat do you have a price estimate yet? Or is that still a ways off?
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 19 May 2020, 11:51:21
I quite don't get the corner badge being MUCH larger than the key row, aesthetically. But the partial blocker looks absolutely great!
I would love a no-badge option too but well, I guess that's part of the design creed here.
Thanks! Will unveil the locking mechanism for the 1U badge soon, it will be fun!
Hey cat do you have a price estimate yet? Or is that still a ways off?
Updated on the first post - expect it to be <350 for aluminum version. More precise price quotes from the factory should come out this week or so.
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Tue, 19 May 2020, 11:56:29
I quite don't get the corner badge being MUCH larger than the key row, aesthetically. But the partial blocker looks absolutely great!
I would love a no-badge option too but well, I guess that's part of the design creed here.
Thanks! Will unveil the locking mechanism for the 1U badge soon, it will be fun!
Hey cat do you have a price estimate yet? Or is that still a ways off?
Updated on the first post - expect it to be <350 for aluminum version. More precise price quotes from the factory should come out this week or so.
Oh man that sounds nice, we shall see. I need a lightweight board because I'm not allowed to carry heavy things and I need a travel board. Plus this might be the only board with blockers I'd consider. ;D
Post by: DennyTwist on Tue, 19 May 2020, 15:01:49
I prefer original placement. It makes it unique from all the other boards out there and I like that separation from the arrow key cluster.
I don't really care if it's themed around anchors, I just don't like the inclusion of '2020'
Would love a PC version for sure.
Post by: 808San808 on Tue, 19 May 2020, 21:09:11
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 20 May 2020, 09:26:26
I loved my original Think, I'm in for this one for sure.
Thanks! Some updates from factory regarding prototyping will share soon!
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 20 May 2020, 15:58:16
(https://i.imgur.com/TOdiJLh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bnQWX8v.jpg)
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Wed, 20 May 2020, 16:03:02
5/20/2020: Some parts (top pieces) of the prototypes are partly done.Nice!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TOdiJLh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bnQWX8v.jpg)
Are those the mounting points for the gasket?
Post by: musicgecko on Wed, 20 May 2020, 16:54:28
Post by: reaLFX on Wed, 20 May 2020, 17:44:58
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 20 May 2020, 22:17:15
5/20/2020: Some parts (top pieces) of the prototypes are partly done.Nice!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TOdiJLh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bnQWX8v.jpg)
Are those the mounting points for the gasket?
Hey yes, and the gaskets we will be offering are injection molded, they will have a locking system to the plate too.
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Wed, 20 May 2020, 22:39:24
5/20/2020: Some parts (top pieces) of the prototypes are partly done.Nice!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TOdiJLh.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bnQWX8v.jpg)
Are those the mounting points for the gasket?
Hey yes, and the gaskets we will be offering are injection molded, they will have a locking system to the plate too.
That is most excellent news I will be awaiting prototype information and pics :thumb:
Post by: asianfork on Thu, 21 May 2020, 00:10:20
Post by: Scucka on Thu, 21 May 2020, 00:13:15
Really excited for this to come out! Will there be an option to buy the different coloured badges? And is there also going to be a hotswappable option like last time too?no hotswap
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 21 May 2020, 12:35:31
Really excited for this to come out! Will there be an option to buy the different coloured badges? And is there also going to be a hotswappable option like last time too?
Hey most likely there will be colored badges - currently based on poll it will be lightbulb (default), and compass (option).
No hotswap so you might need to deal with Mill Max 7305 if you want it hotswap
Post by: tuantruong on Thu, 21 May 2020, 23:18:24
Sorry if I missed the info, but would the black polycarbonate be offered in the GB? Keep telling myself I only need one endgame board. :p
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 22 May 2020, 13:09:57
Neat keeb!
Sorry if I missed the info, but would the black polycarbonate be offered in the GB? Keep telling myself I only need one endgame board. :p
Hey! There will not be black poly this time around, but regular frosted poly will be available
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 22 May 2020, 17:03:32
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 22 May 2020, 22:56:02
Does anyone know the weights of the PC and aluminum v1 boards?
Don't recall the measurements out of my head, I have a half-PC half-alu prototype on hand that I will measure for you.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 22 May 2020, 23:17:35
Does anyone know the weights of the PC and aluminum v1 boards?
Don't recall the measurements out of my head, I have a half-PC half-alu prototype on hand that I will measure for you.
Much appreciated! I’m really interested in PC. I know it’s pretty soft and scratch prone though. I do a lot of academic writing in libraries, and I want the think v2 to be the board I take in my backpack with me. I’ll keep it in a padded case, but I’m trying to weight the pros of the lower weight with the cons of scratch-ability. I also don’t have a PC board and they look super cool, so that’s a strong pro as well.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sat, 23 May 2020, 01:38:51
Post by: Roddin on Sat, 23 May 2020, 01:54:10
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 23 May 2020, 03:17:20
Will have to note that both will have RGB backlighting diffused from under, I forgot to render for the left one sorry.
(https://i.imgur.com/oY1tDKH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RcrO0K7.jpg)
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 23 May 2020, 05:14:59
Post by: beekey on Sat, 23 May 2020, 06:02:02
Probably the last poll I do regarding the design, which is related to the 1U badge design - whether we add chamfers to aesthetically separate the badge from the top case, here is the comparison, what do you think? Vote here: https://www.instagram.com/stories/oldcat87/2315269047624658513/Chamfer looks better. Maybe also less error prone regarding the tolerances. But what do I know. :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oY1tDKH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RcrO0K7.jpg)
Post by: azzipa on Sat, 23 May 2020, 08:11:24
Post by: LordOwen on Sat, 23 May 2020, 08:43:23
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sat, 23 May 2020, 11:28:53
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 23 May 2020, 13:44:27
In essence, they will be identical except the chamfers.
Post by: VictorVallecano on Sat, 23 May 2020, 16:32:02
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 23 May 2020, 21:19:35
Does anyone know the weights of the PC and aluminum v1 boards?
Here you go, note that I only have the prototype (half PC half alu) on hand, and this is the weight:
(https://i.imgur.com/KRK4LIF.jpg)
Post by: theside123 on Sat, 23 May 2020, 22:48:46
Post by: fabijolo on Sun, 24 May 2020, 00:13:43
when gb start?
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 24 May 2020, 10:30:43
when gb start?
Probably around the end of July/beginning of Augustwhen gb start?
Yeah, we should be able to get this ready for GB soon but will wait till Space65 R2 GB ships. So the day we start GB, we can start preparing the production process.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 24 May 2020, 12:38:54
(https://i.imgur.com/SEEFcZz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vW7yFkE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c0M2sZx.jpg)
Post by: Scucka on Sun, 24 May 2020, 12:39:36
Updating renders of some of my favorite darker-themed keycap sets on the upcoming e-arctic blue color case. Already in for Dracula, and keeping a close eye on Hammerhead and Nord which are coming this summer.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SEEFcZz.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vW7yFkE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/c0M2sZx.jpg)
beautiful
Post by: MadsMe on Sun, 24 May 2020, 13:20:45
Updating renders of some of my favorite darker-themed keycap sets on the upcoming e-arctic blue color case. Already in for Dracula, and keeping a close eye on Hammerhead and Nord which are coming this summer.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SEEFcZz.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vW7yFkE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/c0M2sZx.jpg)
Do you have an idea of the other colors that are going to be running?
Post by: JvMil on Sun, 24 May 2020, 16:20:57
Looks amazing with the dark hammerheadset, which I am going to get too. Great job with this board :thumb:
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sun, 24 May 2020, 20:56:09
They look amazing! If it's not too much to ask, could you do a render like that in Polycarbonate? I wonder what badge placement looks best with PC..
Looks amazing with the dark hammerheadset, which I am going to get too. Great job with this board :thumb:
+1
Post by: StateSheriff on Sun, 24 May 2020, 23:29:42
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Sun, 24 May 2020, 23:32:21
Sorry if this has already been asked, is there any estimate for when these will start shipping based on the GB being in July/August?
I'd assume 3-5 months seeing how fast Graystudio works. So probably you could be safe assuming December or January.
Post by: Ellen_Degenocide on Sun, 24 May 2020, 23:40:24
Updating renders of some of my favorite darker-themed keycap sets on the upcoming e-arctic blue color case. Already in for Dracula, and keeping a close eye on Hammerhead and Nord which are coming this summer.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SEEFcZz.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vW7yFkE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/c0M2sZx.jpg)
That anchor render :thumb:. I am too hyped for Hammerhead! Would be an amazing pairing.
Post by: StateSheriff on Sun, 24 May 2020, 23:49:45
Thanks. I was going to go for a cheap(er) hot swap kbdf build but I think I'm gonna hold out for this, which will be my first GB and non-mass produced mech, I'm pretty excited, the Red Samurai render looks amazing.Sorry if this has already been asked, is there any estimate for when these will start shipping based on the GB being in July/August?
I'd assume 3-5 months seeing how fast Graystudio works. So probably you could be safe assuming December or January.
Gives me plenty of time to get used to soldering too, lol
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Mon, 25 May 2020, 00:29:20
You won’t be disappointed. This is a really nice board to get as your first excellent choice.Thanks. I was going to go for a cheap(er) hot swap kbdf build but I think I'm gonna hold out for this, which will be my first GB and non-mass produced mech, I'm pretty excited, the Red Samurai render looks amazing.Sorry if this has already been asked, is there any estimate for when these will start shipping based on the GB being in July/August?
I'd assume 3-5 months seeing how fast Graystudio works. So probably you could be safe assuming December or January.
Gives me plenty of time to get used to soldering too, lol
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Post by: sprigun on Mon, 25 May 2020, 02:36:28
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 25 May 2020, 09:27:30
Updating renders of some of my favorite darker-themed keycap sets on the upcoming e-arctic blue color case. Already in for Dracula, and keeping a close eye on Hammerhead and Nord which are coming this summer.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SEEFcZz.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vW7yFkE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/c0M2sZx.jpg)
Do you have an idea of the other colors that are going to be running?
Hey, the usual suspects (black, gray, e-white), plus e-cream, e-arctic blue, and e-pink is what I am considering at this time. Might do some pre-set color mix-match too.
Post by: stoobie on Mon, 25 May 2020, 12:59:11
I'm interested in getting this kit, however I have never soldered a board and was wondering if purchasing an extra PCB is an option? Worried in case I somehow damage the first board by accident during assembly.
Thanks
Post by: isaiasr212 on Mon, 25 May 2020, 13:10:42
Post by: StateSheriff on Mon, 25 May 2020, 13:35:12
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 25 May 2020, 14:20:53
I know the IC is way past this point but it's hard to find info in the 6-700 posts: What was the reason for choosing FR-4 and aluminium as plate choices and not brass?
I think the idea was just that brass is too rigid for Oldcat's taste, but by all means, somebody correct me if I'm wrong. On this topic, if someone could give a little more testimonial to FR-4 as a plate material, that would be great. I've never personally used it and am not that familiar with it as a material.
Post by: arremkay on Mon, 25 May 2020, 15:29:27
Hey, the usual suspects (black, gray, e-white), plus e-cream, e-arctic blue, and e-pink is what I am considering at this time. Might do some pre-set color mix-match too.
I think e-cream is a great choice, especially with Bento R2 coming soon it will be a nice look
Post by: Cresc3nt on Mon, 25 May 2020, 16:46:19
Post by: prizeS on Mon, 25 May 2020, 17:56:00
I know the IC is way past this point but it's hard to find info in the 6-700 posts: What was the reason for choosing FR-4 and aluminium as plate choices and not brass?
I think the idea was just that brass is too rigid for Oldcat's taste, but by all means, somebody correct me if I'm wrong. On this topic, if someone could give a little more testimonial to FR-4 as a plate material, that would be great. I've never personally used it and am not that familiar with it as a material.
Personally I think that FR4 is somewhat similar to Alu but slightly more flexible. It's also not as pingy in terms of sound. Built my Savage65 with the included FR4 plate and I didn't see anything wrong with it. IMO still prefer PC plate, but it's not bad.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 25 May 2020, 20:04:49
I know the IC is way past this point but it's hard to find info in the 6-700 posts: What was the reason for choosing FR-4 and aluminium as plate choices and not brass?
I think the idea was just that brass is too rigid for Oldcat's taste, but by all means, somebody correct me if I'm wrong. On this topic, if someone could give a little more testimonial to FR-4 as a plate material, that would be great. I've never personally used it and am not that familiar with it as a material.
Personally I think that FR4 is somewhat similar to Alu but slightly more flexible. It's also not as pingy in terms of sound. Built my Savage65 with the included FR4 plate and I didn't see anything wrong with it. IMO still prefer PC plate, but it's not bad.
Between FR-4, PC, and aluminum, which you would you say is the lowest pitch / thock-iest? I have limited experience with PC and FR-4, and it's always a little hard to tell because I normally don't build the same board with different plates. I.e. it's hard to attribute sound differences to the plate when it could just be the different case.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 25 May 2020, 23:24:46
You won’t be disappointed. This is a really nice board to get as your first excellent choice.Thanks. I was going to go for a cheap(er) hot swap kbdf build but I think I'm gonna hold out for this, which will be my first GB and non-mass produced mech, I'm pretty excited, the Red Samurai render looks amazing.Sorry if this has already been asked, is there any estimate for when these will start shipping based on the GB being in July/August?
I'd assume 3-5 months seeing how fast Graystudio works. So probably you could be safe assuming December or January.
Gives me plenty of time to get used to soldering too, lol
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Thanks bro, for the kind words! This will certainly be an endgame 65% for myself :)
Post by: Slayer77 on Mon, 25 May 2020, 23:27:03
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Post by: prizeS on Mon, 25 May 2020, 23:31:18
I know the IC is way past this point but it's hard to find info in the 6-700 posts: What was the reason for choosing FR-4 and aluminium as plate choices and not brass?
I think the idea was just that brass is too rigid for Oldcat's taste, but by all means, somebody correct me if I'm wrong. On this topic, if someone could give a little more testimonial to FR-4 as a plate material, that would be great. I've never personally used it and am not that familiar with it as a material.
Personally I think that FR4 is somewhat similar to Alu but slightly more flexible. It's also not as pingy in terms of sound. Built my Savage65 with the included FR4 plate and I didn't see anything wrong with it. IMO still prefer PC plate, but it's not bad.
Between FR-4, PC, and aluminum, which you would you say is the lowest pitch / thock-iest? I have limited experience with PC and FR-4, and it's always a little hard to tell because I normally don't build the same board with different plates. I.e. it's hard to attribute sound differences to the plate when it could just be the different case.
I haven't built a single board with both FR4 and PC plates either. I have however built a board with both alu and PC plates. I definitely can't give a be-all-end-all type of conclusion to which plate material gives the most thock, simply because every build uses a different combination of switches, case, and plate. In addition, there are variables like plate thickness, mounting style and mounting points of a case, etc that influence the sound. So like you said, it is quite hard to isolate the difference in plates unless you keep all other variables the same and do multiple builds in one case with different plates.
That being said, I do lean towards PC for most comfortable typing experience with it being the softest, and providing the lowest pitch sound. Followed by FR4 and alu in that order, but that is just how I interpret it in my head. Could be different for other people.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 25 May 2020, 23:45:52
I know the IC is way past this point but it's hard to find info in the 6-700 posts: What was the reason for choosing FR-4 and aluminium as plate choices and not brass?
I think the idea was just that brass is too rigid for Oldcat's taste, but by all means, somebody correct me if I'm wrong. On this topic, if someone could give a little more testimonial to FR-4 as a plate material, that would be great. I've never personally used it and am not that familiar with it as a material.
Personally I think that FR4 is somewhat similar to Alu but slightly more flexible. It's also not as pingy in terms of sound. Built my Savage65 with the included FR4 plate and I didn't see anything wrong with it. IMO still prefer PC plate, but it's not bad.
Between FR-4, PC, and aluminum, which you would you say is the lowest pitch / thock-iest? I have limited experience with PC and FR-4, and it's always a little hard to tell because I normally don't build the same board with different plates. I.e. it's hard to attribute sound differences to the plate when it could just be the different case.
I haven't built a single board with both FR4 and PC plates either. I have however built a board with both alu and PC plates. I definitely can't give a be-all-end-all type of conclusion to which plate material gives the most thock, simply because every build uses a different combination of switches, case, and plate. In addition, there are variables like plate thickness, mounting style and mounting points of a case, etc that influence the sound. So like you said, it is quite hard to isolate the difference in plates unless you keep all other variables the same and do multiple builds in one case with different plates.
That being said, I do lean towards PC for most comfortable typing experience with it being the softest, and providing the lowest pitch sound. Followed by FR4 and alu in that order, but that is just how I interpret it in my head. Could be different for other people.
Thanks! Much appreciated. I’ll definitely give the FR4 a try. Maybe one day I’ll buy 4 or 5 of the same board to do a good apples to apples plate material comparison when I have the time and money to spare. Thanks again!
Post by: prizeS on Tue, 26 May 2020, 03:19:21
Thanks! Much appreciated. I’ll definitely give the FR4 a try. Maybe one day I’ll buy 4 or 5 of the same board to do a good apples to apples plate material comparison when I have the time and money to spare. Thanks again!
yw! :D :D
Post by: TofuOrganic on Tue, 26 May 2020, 05:11:07
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 26 May 2020, 11:19:30
Any updates on colors badges available? Maybe a poll with all renders?
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Still talking to Potter about the color offerings (and if we do more colors for badges), should know more soon!
Post by: FTR_Beat on Tue, 26 May 2020, 11:45:12
Now, do we REALLY have to wait for CyberVoyager?? Kiddin', we will likely leverage the experience and have a better QA that way.
Post by: ufomer on Tue, 26 May 2020, 18:17:25
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Tue, 26 May 2020, 19:05:46
Sorry if I missed something here, but is this going to be a limited run or can I just join the group buy without any issues?
It'll most likely not be limited but that of course depends on the response and how many orders the team ks comfortable taking.
Post by: Sabin on Wed, 27 May 2020, 06:59:37
Thanks bro, for the kind words! This will certainly be an endgame 65% for myself :)
Hi, sorry if the question has already been answered but will hotswap still be available for V2 and if so will there be an option to have a 1U badge at the top? Thank you.
Also one more question, do you know the approximate weight of the board built?
Thank you again, love the design and hoping to get one for myself :)
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Wed, 27 May 2020, 07:08:51
I can’t answer the weight question but hotswap is out. Something about the gasket mount.
Thanks bro, for the kind words! This will certainly be an endgame 65% for myself :)
Hi, sorry if the question has already been answered but will hotswap still be available for V2 and if so will there be an option to have a 1U badge at the top? Thank you.
Also one more question, do you know the approximate weight of the board built?
Thank you again, love the design and hoping to get one for myself :)
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Post by: Shiftbuzz on Wed, 27 May 2020, 07:35:59
Like alu top with PC bottom?
Post by: Sabin on Wed, 27 May 2020, 07:48:15
I can’t answer the weight question but hotswap is out. Something about the gasket mount.
Thanks bro, for the kind words! This will certainly be an endgame 65% for myself :)
Hi, sorry if the question has already been answered but will hotswap still be available for V2 and if so will there be an option to have a 1U badge at the top? Thank you.
Also one more question, do you know the approximate weight of the board built?
Thank you again, love the design and hoping to get one for myself :)
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Ah ok, thanks for the reply.
Haven't been able to scope a lot of group buys because of work this year, I really want to find a decent heavy 65% hot swappable board..
Post by: itsprobablyme on Wed, 27 May 2020, 12:34:30
Post by: ScullyD on Wed, 27 May 2020, 13:41:54
when gb start?Probably around the end of July/beginning of Augustwhen gb start?
Yeah, we should be able to get this ready for GB soon but will wait till Space65 R2 GB ships. So the day we start GB, we can start preparing the production process.
How many of these boards can i buy as a single group buyer. I envisioning wanting to get a few for matching color sets.
Post by: harmful on Wed, 27 May 2020, 13:50:57
Post by: FTR_Beat on Wed, 27 May 2020, 13:54:00
Are you gonna be making a frost poly for this one?
+1000 interest on frost poly!
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 27 May 2020, 17:12:56
Are you gonna be making a frost poly for this one?
+1000 interest on frost poly!
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Are you gonna be making a frost poly for this one?
100%! We shall see the frosted poly prototypes soon :)
Post by: SxM Designs on Wed, 27 May 2020, 17:53:49
Post by: theside123 on Wed, 27 May 2020, 18:14:18
Can you see the interior design? I want to see the disassembled figure. I wonder how it is assembled
Post by: LukeDoky on Wed, 27 May 2020, 20:26:18
Post by: cptbubbles on Wed, 27 May 2020, 20:52:10
Post by: lamonayon on Wed, 27 May 2020, 20:55:33
You won’t be disappointed. This is a really nice board to get as your first excellent choice.Thanks. I was going to go for a cheap(er) hot swap kbdf build but I think I'm gonna hold out for this, which will be my first GB and non-mass produced mech, I'm pretty excited, the Red Samurai render looks amazing.Sorry if this has already been asked, is there any estimate for when these will start shipping based on the GB being in July/August?
I'd assume 3-5 months seeing how fast Graystudio works. So probably you could be safe assuming December or January.
Gives me plenty of time to get used to soldering too, lol
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Thanks bro, for the kind words! This will certainly be an endgame 65% for myself :)
end game for you? quite interested on what specs & colorway (or should I say panda option?) on the v2 will you get for yourself? 😁
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 27 May 2020, 21:55:26
I was tied up with a deadline last few days and will come back to addressing your questions soon.
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 27 May 2020, 22:01:48
You won’t be disappointed. This is a really nice board to get as your first excellent choice.Thanks. I was going to go for a cheap(er) hot swap kbdf build but I think I'm gonna hold out for this, which will be my first GB and non-mass produced mech, I'm pretty excited, the Red Samurai render looks amazing.Sorry if this has already been asked, is there any estimate for when these will start shipping based on the GB being in July/August?
I'd assume 3-5 months seeing how fast Graystudio works. So probably you could be safe assuming December or January.
Gives me plenty of time to get used to soldering too, lol
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Thanks bro, for the kind words! This will certainly be an endgame 65% for myself :)
end game for you? quite interested on what specs & colorway (or should I say panda option?) on the v2 will you get for yourself? 😁
Yes, after buying so many keyboards, the whole point of this project is to build ones that are my personal endgames. I really like the Think6.5 PC version that I designed last year, but not so much the sound profile of the aluminum version with Holy Panda (I almost exclusively use Holy Pandas these days. Fine with Cherry MX retooled blacks I think but I rarely use it now), so I set out to get back to a gasket-mount design which I actually originally planned for the v1 version of Think6.5. I am going to the length of making injection molds to produce the specially designed gaskets, not sure how much difference in improvements they will make, but it will at least be a very solid gasket system with locking on both the plate and the cases.
I will not profit anything other than maybe a couple of prototypes from this prospective GB (one of which will likely go to Alex for a build stream). All possible proceeds, if any, will go to AirPotter's keyboard business that will enable him to continue innovating and experimenting with new things.
RE colorway, my favorite colorway has always been Panda (e-white top and black bottom).
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 27 May 2020, 22:09:58
I know the IC is way past this point but it's hard to find info in the 6-700 posts: What was the reason for choosing FR-4 and aluminium as plate choices and not brass?
I think the idea was just that brass is too rigid for Oldcat's taste, but by all means, somebody correct me if I'm wrong. On this topic, if someone could give a little more testimonial to FR-4 as a plate material, that would be great. I've never personally used it and am not that familiar with it as a material.
Personally I think that FR4 is somewhat similar to Alu but slightly more flexible. It's also not as pingy in terms of sound. Built my Savage65 with the included FR4 plate and I didn't see anything wrong with it. IMO still prefer PC plate, but it's not bad.
Between FR-4, PC, and aluminum, which you would you say is the lowest pitch / thock-iest? I have limited experience with PC and FR-4, and it's always a little hard to tell because I normally don't build the same board with different plates. I.e. it's hard to attribute sound differences to the plate when it could just be the different case.
I haven't built a single board with both FR4 and PC plates either. I have however built a board with both alu and PC plates. I definitely can't give a be-all-end-all type of conclusion to which plate material gives the most thock, simply because every build uses a different combination of switches, case, and plate. In addition, there are variables like plate thickness, mounting style and mounting points of a case, etc that influence the sound. So like you said, it is quite hard to isolate the difference in plates unless you keep all other variables the same and do multiple builds in one case with different plates.
That being said, I do lean towards PC for most comfortable typing experience with it being the softest, and providing the lowest pitch sound. Followed by FR4 and alu in that order, but that is just how I interpret it in my head. Could be different for other people.
Yeah each plate material will offer some sort of features. I will do a personal comparison sometime in terms of the flex, sound signature, etc., as I have all of these materials built at least a couple of times.
My personal preference (for 1.5mm plate) is FR4 > Alu >= CF > PC >> Brass >> Steel
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 27 May 2020, 22:18:06
Can we get a seperate renders of the deskmat. Those look amazing.
For sure! Not sure which one you are talking about (I rendered quite a few), so here you go for all of them. A few are outside of this GB (one by Alex and one by May)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZwYkMrg.png)
By Alexotos, outside of this GB, but check it out when it is restocked it is amazing!
(https://i.imgur.com/hdjxk8v.png)
By May, outside of this GB.
(https://i.imgur.com/cGgV81b.png)
By inertG, this is for the Dracula - GB is separate and will be run by inertG
(https://i.imgur.com/kaF8TQm.png)
By xingchen_fan, this will likely be included in the GB
(https://i.imgur.com/EfVdrPS.png)
One more colorway by xingchen_fan, this will likely be included in the GB - will likely pick one background color later.
(https://i.imgur.com/R6405VZ.png)
By 66Fannie99, this will be included in the GB.
Lastly, a fun one for you guys as you wait for the Think6.5V2! Yes, it is coming :)
(https://i.imgur.com/NBr3ckd.png)
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Wed, 27 May 2020, 22:30:22
Can we get a seperate renders of the deskmat. Those look amazing.
For sure! Not sure which one you are talking about (I rendered quite a few), so here you go for all of them. A few are outside of this GB (one by Alex and one by May)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZwYkMrg.png)
By Alexotos, outside of this GB, but check it out when it is restocked it is amazing!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hdjxk8v.png)
By May, outside of this GB.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cGgV81b.png)
By inertG, this is for the Dracula - GB is separate and will be run by inertGShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/kaF8TQm.png)
By xingchen_fan, this will likely be included in the GBShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/EfVdrPS.png)
One more colorway by xingchen_fan, this will likely be included in the GB - will likely pick one background color later.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/R6405VZ.png)
By 66Fannie99, this will be included in the GB.
Lastly, a fun one for you guys as you wait for the Think6.5V2! Yes, it is coming :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NBr3ckd.png)
Maaaaan this is makingme hesitate and consider a 65%...
Post by: thatguy11m on Wed, 27 May 2020, 23:49:44
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 28 May 2020, 12:00:24
Hello!
I'm interested in getting this kit, however I have never soldered a board and was wondering if purchasing an extra PCB is an option? Worried in case I somehow damage the first board by accident during assembly.
Thanks
Yes, extra PCBs and plates will be options during GB.
Post by: Scucka on Thu, 28 May 2020, 12:28:02
Can we get a seperate renders of the deskmat. Those look amazing.
For sure! Not sure which one you are talking about (I rendered quite a few), so here you go for all of them. A few are outside of this GB (one by Alex and one by May)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZwYkMrg.png)
By Alexotos, outside of this GB, but check it out when it is restocked it is amazing!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hdjxk8v.png)
By May, outside of this GB.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cGgV81b.png)
By inertG, this is for the Dracula - GB is separate and will be run by inertGShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/kaF8TQm.png)
By xingchen_fan, this will likely be included in the GBShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/EfVdrPS.png)
One more colorway by xingchen_fan, this will likely be included in the GB - will likely pick one background color later.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/R6405VZ.png)
By 66Fannie99, this will be included in the GB.
Lastly, a fun one for you guys as you wait for the Think6.5V2! Yes, it is coming :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NBr3ckd.png)
Give me 2
Post by: houkiaa on Thu, 28 May 2020, 12:29:13
Post by: fabijolo on Thu, 28 May 2020, 13:04:23
So as long as you enter the group buy during the time it runs, you will get the colour you desire with no problems :thumb:
Is this going to be a limited run? If so do you know how many units are going to be available for each colorway? Thanks
Post by: bobdenard on Thu, 28 May 2020, 17:02:47
Post by: perry4761 on Thu, 28 May 2020, 17:08:58
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 28 May 2020, 17:48:47
They should be enough to cover your 65% board. Only one batch of these switches ever made.
Giveaway rules per usual. And every month either AirPotter or I will run a fun giveaway.
Post by: riku. on Thu, 28 May 2020, 18:02:07
Will be giving away 69 pcs of transparent panda switches for the Gray Studio June giveaway on IG (https://www.instagram.com/oldcat87/) if anyone is interested.
They should be enough to cover your 65% board. Only one batch of these switches ever made.
Giveaway rules per usual. And every month either AirPotter or I will run a fun giveaway.
can you only enter the giveaway if you have IG? dont have any social media.. :(
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 28 May 2020, 18:07:53
Will be giving away 69 pcs of transparent panda switches for the Gray Studio June giveaway on IG (https://www.instagram.com/oldcat87/) if anyone is interested.
They should be enough to cover your 65% board. Only one batch of these switches ever made.
Giveaway rules per usual. And every month either AirPotter or I will run a fun giveaway.
can you only enter the giveaway if you have IG? dont have any social media.. :(
Unfortunately, it is probably the easiest way for me to run an RNG-type giveaway and we've done it many times there.
Post by: stealthzero on Thu, 28 May 2020, 21:07:14
Post by: farmisen on Thu, 28 May 2020, 21:17:02
Hello!Check out the following kit from cannon keys. For $35 you can get all the practice you need without worrying destroying a more costly pcb. It comes w/ an extra pcb just in case and at the end you get to have an extra 60% keyboard.
I'm interested in getting this kit, however I have never soldered a board and was wondering if purchasing an extra PCB is an option? Worried in case I somehow damage the first board by accident during assembly.
Thanks
https://cannonkeys.com/collections/frontpage/products/practice60-keyboard-kit
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Post by: kanki0213 on Thu, 28 May 2020, 21:27:02
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 29 May 2020, 03:52:45
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 29 May 2020, 11:52:02
The first three mats are superb and will all have to also be purchased. Excellent.
They are amazing, but unaffiliated with this GB and have to be purchased separately. Check them out!
Authors are kind enough to let me use their mats to render the boards.
Post by: hottrout on Fri, 29 May 2020, 12:29:17
Post by: prizeS on Fri, 29 May 2020, 12:35:57
OHH right. Do you have a link?
they were sold on TKC, but their GBs ended already. there should be extras soon as I believe they are shipping relatively soon.
Post by: Krzew on Fri, 29 May 2020, 13:32:37
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 29 May 2020, 15:38:59
Are the bottom plates compatible with each other regardless of the 1U top plate or 2U ?
Yes bottom cases are the same. PCB/Plate/Top case are different for 1U vs. 2U.
Post by: StateSheriff on Fri, 29 May 2020, 16:22:46
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 29 May 2020, 17:51:11
There's no EU vendor? That's a shame, adds quite a significant amount to the final price if it's coming from outside.
would be nice to have eu vendor so i wouldn't have to pay all these taxes and fees, but definitely in anyway!
I have considered vendors. Actually having a location-specific vendor will increase the sale price quite a bit as there is one more layer of transaction. There are also accountability and customer service issues if additional vendors are involved. It might work well for standard items like keycap sets, but I am not sure about high-end keyboards.
Post by: deanra on Fri, 29 May 2020, 18:12:44
There's no EU vendor? That's a shame, adds quite a significant amount to the final price if it's coming from outside.would be nice to have eu vendor so i wouldn't have to pay all these taxes and fees, but definitely in anyway!
I have considered vendors. Actually having a location-specific vendor will increase the sale price quite a bit as there is one more layer of transaction. There are also accountability and customer service issues if additional vendors are involved. It might work well for standard items like keycap sets, but I am not sure about high-end keyboards.
definitely +1 for an EU vendor :(
Post by: StateSheriff on Fri, 29 May 2020, 19:52:35
I have considered vendors. Actually having a location-specific vendor will increase the sale price quite a bit as there is one more layer of transaction. There are also accountability and customer service issues if additional vendors are involved. It might work well for standard items like keycap sets, but I am not sure about high-end keyboards.I won't tell you what I think is best since I don't have the knowledge required but it would be good if you looked into the best option. Consider that as an example, I'm already paying 20% + 2.5% import duty on the sale price including shipping when it comes from outside the EU, and I think it's similar for most Europeans here from Germany, France etc.
But even after considering that if you say adding an EU-vendor adds to the sale price significantly and causes too much extra complexity in the process then the decision makes sense!
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 29 May 2020, 20:07:38
I have considered vendors. Actually having a location-specific vendor will increase the sale price quite a bit as there is one more layer of transaction. There are also accountability and customer service issues if additional vendors are involved. It might work well for standard items like keycap sets, but I am not sure about high-end keyboards.
I don't have experience with setting up a GB or anything similar so I could be wrong, but when I look at some of the most popular high-end keyboard GBs most do opt for an EU vendor and I'm guessing there's a reason for it, in spite of higher sale price?
I won't tell you what to do since I don't have the knowledge required but it would be good if you looked into the best option. Consider that as an example, I'm already paying 20% + 2.5% import duty on the sale price including shipping when it comes from outside the EU, and I think it's similar for most Europeans here from Germany, France etc.
Hmm, I guess this is assuming when the vendors import goods from outside the country, they do not pay import tax or pay a substantially lower amount of tax for goods than the individual buyers would otherwise pay, so the surplus gained from the tax savings minus the cost of setting up and transacting with a vendor can be transferred to the buyers? Otherwise, the cost calculation actually comes down to shipping cost difference minus the fees charged by the vendor.
I would of course want to make the final price as low as possible for the buyers. Like the OG Think GB, I am not charging money for the designs. If the number works out and customer service responsibilities can be figured out, then I don't see why not.
Post by: StateSheriff on Fri, 29 May 2020, 20:26:10
I would have thought it works a similar way, perhaps it'd be useful to clear up with an EU vendor how it would affect final sale prices.
Hmm, I guess this is assuming when the vendors import goods from outside the country, they do not pay import tax or pay a substantially lower amount of tax for goods than the individual buyers would otherwise pay, so the surplus gained from the tax savings minus the cost of setting up and transacting with a vendor can be transferred to the buyers? Otherwise, the cost calculation actually comes down to shipping cost difference minus the fees charged by the vendor.
I would of course want to make the final price as low as possible for the buyers. Like the OG Think GB, I am not charging money for the designs. If the number works out and customer service responsibilities can be figured out, then I don't see why not.
Obviously you are attempting to provide us the opportunity to purchase a high quality product for the lowest price possible which is appreciated. It sucks to get hit with charges when purchasing outside of the EU which is why I think a lot are grateful for vendors, so you looking into it to see if it's a possibility and benefit (or not) would be awesome :)
Post by: deanra on Fri, 29 May 2020, 20:39:39
logically warranty replacements aren't a new purchase and wouldn't attract the >20% import taxes we're hit with here in EU :/
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Fri, 29 May 2020, 20:43:26
Maybe you can call the "European version" Think6.5 v2.0 Warranty Replacement product. :D
logically warranty replacements aren't a new purchase and wouldn't attract the >20% import taxes we're hit with here in EU :/
Ohhhhhhhh scandalous!!!! O_o
Post by: deanra on Fri, 29 May 2020, 21:07:33
Additionally, anything I pay in USD also attracts a phat fee from my bank + a ****ty exchange rate..
I guess someone like Candykeys or Mykeyboard would do a single "big" transfer through a service like xe.com for a negotiated exchange rate and non-existent fees..
Anyway, I don't think that StateSheriff or myself are trying to scrounge to save a few nickels... but if
* there are significant savings to be made
* it doesn't generate a lot of extra effort for you
* you have enough EU interest to justify the use of an EU proxy
I'm pretty sure it would be beneficial for us..especially for those that are hoping to pick up multiple KBs in the GB..
On a personal note, I'd prefer that my money ended up with "you"(those making think6.5v2 happen) or at least with the aforementioned EU proxies that are contributing to the community here.. rather than giving it away as import taxes..
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 30 May 2020, 00:01:22
I wonder if the importer could pay import taxes on the 'cost' of the product.. whereas an individual would pay import taxes on the retail price of the product?
Additionally, anything I pay in USD also attracts a phat fee from my bank + a ****ty exchange rate..
I guess someone like Candykeys or Mykeyboard would do a single "big" transfer through a service like xe.com for a negotiated exchange rate and non-existent fees..
Anyway, I don't think that StateSheriff or myself are trying to scrounge to save a few nickels... but if
* there are significant savings to be made
* it doesn't generate a lot of extra effort for you
* you have enough EU interest to justify the use of an EU proxy
I'm pretty sure it would be beneficial for us..especially for those that are hoping to pick up multiple KBs in the GB..
On a personal note, I'd prefer that my money ended up with "you"(those making think6.5v2 happen) or at least with the aforementioned EU proxies that are contributing to the community here.. rather than giving it away as import taxes..
Good points, I will check with a vendor I know again and see what the fees/costs will be, though I am pretty sure the importer's tax will be based on how much the units are sold to him/her but I can be wrong.
If it makes financial sense for the buyers with the roughly identical amount received by Potter (as the GB runner), I'd be happy to talk to him to do it through that route. This will likely mean the sale price will be $400+ for EU, my guess.
For US buyers I think it always makes sense to buy directly from a maker, because it is very unlikely you get hit with any importer tax (which I have never been).
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Post by: StateSheriff on Sat, 30 May 2020, 05:14:10
You EU guys are complaining about 20% which is cute. In India we have to pay 42% on value of board+shipping. Makes it hard to consider buying boards where seller won't undervalue on package.Just to reiterate, I haven't brought this up to complain or penny pinch. I was prepared to go ahead with the GB knowing the charges would come on top, but I mentioned the vendors because I saw several others asking the same thing.
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Post by: Raku on Sat, 30 May 2020, 05:36:05
Post by: ufomer on Sat, 30 May 2020, 05:37:45
Is there any information on when the Group Buy will start?Main post said July/August
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Post by: Felix1 on Sat, 30 May 2020, 08:02:02
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 30 May 2020, 14:03:58
Post by: perry4761 on Sat, 30 May 2020, 14:44:08
69 clear pandas giveaway is live: https://www.instagram.com/p/CA0qN8ZHn5g/?igshid=vrkk9clc1kwa
I'd love to participate, but after reading the rules I realized it's going to be quite hard since I'm the only degenerate among my friends who's into mechanical keyboards
Post by: Rejeckted on Sat, 30 May 2020, 14:58:59
Good luck to everyone who entered though, can't wait for this GB to go live!
Post by: Kalabalik on Sat, 30 May 2020, 21:30:21
Post by: jubei on Sun, 31 May 2020, 04:08:25
Sorry if this has already been answered (or is obvious), but exactly how customizable will the board be in the end? Will I be able to order any configuration of top case color, bottom case color, badge placement, badge color, badge paint fill, etc?
+1 on customization
Badge renders in OP seems too busy for me. A minimal or cleaner brand logo would be nice to have as an option, like the design at the bottom of the case possibly. Meanwhile, nice looking board definitely.
Post by: SxM Designs on Sun, 31 May 2020, 04:28:33
I rather have my money go to OP for the designs rather than the tax office.
Plus I have to unbox at the customs office and show them whats inside :(
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 31 May 2020, 10:40:36
Sorry if this has already been answered (or is obvious), but exactly how customizable will the board be in the end? Will I be able to order any configuration of top case color, bottom case color, badge placement, badge color, badge paint fill, etc?
The base kit will come in pre-set colorways. Format will be similar to the Space65 CyberVoyager GB.
Will have one optional badge in different colors to choose from. Badge is a LED badge (diffused from under below a diffuser), not an infill type badge, so you can set the color to anything you want.
Post by: Pxlp on Sun, 31 May 2020, 15:38:16
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 31 May 2020, 21:37:54
And on a side note, what PCB color do you guys would like to be in the production version?
Post by: Kalabalik on Sun, 31 May 2020, 21:39:22
what PCB color do you guys would like to be in the production version?
Black
Post by: Zeelobby on Sun, 31 May 2020, 21:59:19
Post by: isaiasr212 on Sun, 31 May 2020, 22:11:34
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 01 June 2020, 00:41:09
Post by: musicgecko on Mon, 01 June 2020, 03:01:06
Post by: StateSheriff on Mon, 01 June 2020, 03:12:06
Post by: kanki0213 on Mon, 01 June 2020, 04:04:25
Good!Are the bottom plates compatible with each other regardless of the 1U top plate or 2U ?
Yes bottom cases are the same. PCB/Plate/Top case are different for 1U vs. 2U.
How about PC and Alu bottoms?
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Post by: StateSheriff on Mon, 01 June 2020, 09:36:56
Edit: Actually I just realised I can look at the OG Think6.5 for that lol
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 01 June 2020, 10:20:04
Dark grey for pcb mask would look clean.
I stand by what I said about bright colors, but agree dark gray would look good. Didn’t think of it.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 01 June 2020, 16:39:38
Good!Are the bottom plates compatible with each other regardless of the 1U top plate or 2U ?
Yes bottom cases are the same. PCB/Plate/Top case are different for 1U vs. 2U.
How about PC and Alu bottoms?
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They will be the same, but the tolerance may be different, mix and match is possible based on R1 run based on some user pictures, but we will not officially offer mix and match options. They will most likely be made in different factories.
Post by: BuddhaBen on Mon, 01 June 2020, 19:47:32
Post by: fabijolo on Tue, 02 June 2020, 00:01:07
Do we have any renders or ideas of what the bottom/weight will look like?
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 02 June 2020, 01:16:31
Do we have any renders or ideas of what the bottom/weight will look like?
On that note though, can we get an idea of what the weight will look like through the PC case bottom? How large is the weight? What shape is it? Is it going to be at all like v1.0 where the interior part of the weight has a design engraved/cut into it?
Post by: MKBGeek on Tue, 02 June 2020, 02:42:46
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 02 June 2020, 13:34:24
Do we have any renders or ideas of what the bottom/weight will look like?
On that note though, can we get an idea of what the weight will look like through the PC case bottom? How large is the weight? What shape is it? Is it going to be at all like v1.0 where the interior part of the weight has a design engraved/cut into it?
The prototype should come out soon. There are a couple of renders of the weight - and I will do a few more! Potter was not able to go to the factory yet due to falling when chasing his dog off-leash. He should recover in a few days.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 02 June 2020, 13:37:13
Red is just for prototyping, Final color is pending - suggestions welcome
(https://i.imgur.com/T1fykqT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/i1uzqaX.jpg)
Also the cat logo will be replaced by the one below：
(https://i.imgur.com/P6Md614.jpg)
Post by: BuddhaBen on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:25:51
Post by: dRnRcRr on Tue, 02 June 2020, 22:00:18
Post by: Jyobah on Tue, 02 June 2020, 22:01:53
Post by: cadrev on Wed, 03 June 2020, 06:58:50
Post by: GhostEther on Wed, 03 June 2020, 08:56:48
Post by: lamonayon on Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:38:31
Sorry oldcat, too excited so I'll post this here!
Post by: ufomer on Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:41:51
Holy **** that looks nice. Consider me reserved, any ETA on GB?
Sorry oldcat, too excited so I'll post this here!
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Post by: Rejeckted on Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:43:30
Holy **** that looks nice. Consider me reserved, any ETA on GB?
Sorry oldcat, too excited so I'll post this here!
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Original post says July/August
Post by: ufomer on Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:53:06
I'm dumb, thanks lolHoly **** that looks nice. Consider me reserved, any ETA on GB?
Sorry oldcat, too excited so I'll post this here!
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Original post says July/August
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Post by: oldcat on Wed, 03 June 2020, 14:01:52
Sorry oldcat, too excited so I'll post this here!
Thanks brother, for posting, much appreciated! And here are the original res images :) And before the prototype pictures are out I will render a few from the back to showcase some cool details of the weight from the external side.
(https://i.imgur.com/VNsavjE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CfPVXdK.jpg)
Post by: SxM Designs on Wed, 03 June 2020, 14:23:17
Post by: Lizcuits on Wed, 03 June 2020, 17:00:03
Post by: deanra on Wed, 03 June 2020, 18:49:55
Having trouble finding a solid answer for the v2, it looks like there will be a hotswap version available in this run? Can anyone confirm this? I'm new to GBs so I just want to double check!
Almost definitely looks like there will NOT be a hot swap version for the v2 (due to the new gasket design).
Post by: ShovelScum on Thu, 04 June 2020, 03:39:07
Sorry oldcat, too excited so I'll post this here!
Thanks brother, for posting, much appreciated! And here are the original res images :) And before the prototype pictures are out I will render a few from the back to showcase some cool details of the weight from the external side.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VNsavjE.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CfPVXdK.jpg)
Gott Dayum! That 2U one looks slicker than a frog in an oil barrel! I cannot wait to get my hands on this! Now i can't decide if i want Aluminum or PC! Ugh! I want both, but i also want to keep my house! Lol
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 04 June 2020, 11:12:41
(https://i.imgur.com/vxdaMgn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WMUpVfW.png)
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 04 June 2020, 19:22:06
Having trouble finding a solid answer for the v2, it looks like there will be a hotswap version available in this run? Can anyone confirm this? I'm new to GBs so I just want to double check!
Right, no hotswap as it won’t work super well with a gasket mount design :(
Post by: StateSheriff on Thu, 04 June 2020, 20:11:31
Right, no hotswap as it won’t work super well with a gasket mount design :(
When are we gonna get details on the gasket design? Waiting on the prototype?
Post by: Kinesiologist on Thu, 04 June 2020, 22:29:40
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Thu, 04 June 2020, 22:43:19
Can you please add ESD protection to the PCB and use USB-C port?I think they did, since they fixed the ESD problems with the cybervoyager release I’d assume they will do ESD with this one.
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Post by: Kalabalik on Fri, 05 June 2020, 01:28:47
Can you please add ESD protection to the PCB and use USB-C port?The renders show a USB-C port.
Post by: lamonayon on Fri, 05 June 2020, 10:51:24
A few images of the weight detail viewed from outside as some posts have been difficult to locate:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vxdaMgn.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WMUpVfW.png)
Will the Weight Logo's be in a Gray only color, or it's also going to be matched to the colorway of the board?
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 05 June 2020, 13:36:58
Can you please add ESD protection to the PCB and use USB-C port?
Yes, for sure, both are already incorporated.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 05 June 2020, 13:46:05
Right, no hotswap as it won’t work super well with a gasket mount design :(
When are we gonna get details on the gasket design? Waiting on the prototype?
The specific type of Gaskets to be used and how they work (and hopefully why they are better ones) will likely be unveiled when Alex live streams a build! The design intends the gaskets to be precisely locked to both the plate and the cases (all current gaskets just have guides on the cases I believe).
Currently, the injection molds for the gaskets have been made (took quite a bit of time) and we will be making alternative ones with varying material softness. Once I receive the prototypes along with the gaskets, I will test ones with varying material softness to determine the best one soon.
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Fri, 05 June 2020, 13:48:02
Would different gaskets be a possibility? Say for example if someone wants to use really soft ones or another person prefers harder material?Right, no hotswap as it won’t work super well with a gasket mount design :(
When are we gonna get details on the gasket design? Waiting on the prototype?
The specific type of Gaskets to be used and how they work (and hopefully why they are better ones) will likely be unveiled when Alex live streams a build! The design intends the gaskets to be precisely locked to both the plate and the cases (all current gaskets just have guides on the cases I believe).
Currently, the injection molds for the gaskets have been made (took quite a bit of time) and we will be making alternative ones with varying material softness. Once I receive the prototypes along with the gaskets, I will test ones with varying material softness to determine the best one soon.
Would offering different hardness be possible?
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Post by: oldcat on Fri, 05 June 2020, 22:22:37
Would different gaskets be a possibility? Say for example if someone wants to use really soft ones or another person prefers harder material?Right, no hotswap as it won’t work super well with a gasket mount design :(
When are we gonna get details on the gasket design? Waiting on the prototype?
The specific type of Gaskets to be used and how they work (and hopefully why they are better ones) will likely be unveiled when Alex live streams a build! The design intends the gaskets to be precisely locked to both the plate and the cases (all current gaskets just have guides on the cases I believe).
Currently, the injection molds for the gaskets have been made (took quite a bit of time) and we will be making alternative ones with varying material softness. Once I receive the prototypes along with the gaskets, I will test ones with varying material softness to determine the best one soon.
Would offering different hardness be possible?
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Good suggestion, and I will look into it!
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Fri, 05 June 2020, 22:31:51
Thanks for taking it into consideration. Every picture and update makes this board more interesting.Would different gaskets be a possibility? Say for example if someone wants to use really soft ones or another person prefers harder material?Right, no hotswap as it won’t work super well with a gasket mount design :(
When are we gonna get details on the gasket design? Waiting on the prototype?
The specific type of Gaskets to be used and how they work (and hopefully why they are better ones) will likely be unveiled when Alex live streams a build! The design intends the gaskets to be precisely locked to both the plate and the cases (all current gaskets just have guides on the cases I believe).
Currently, the injection molds for the gaskets have been made (took quite a bit of time) and we will be making alternative ones with varying material softness. Once I receive the prototypes along with the gaskets, I will test ones with varying material softness to determine the best one soon.
Would offering different hardness be possible?
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Good suggestion, and I will look into it!
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Post by: SxM Designs on Sat, 06 June 2020, 04:19:18
I wanted to know if you looked into the EU proxy and found something out?
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 06 June 2020, 15:53:13
Hi oldcat,
I wanted to know if you looked into the EU proxy and found something out?
Potter said after thinking further, he will not be working with another vendor (EU or elsewhere), most due to customer service and accountability issues. Keyboards are different from keycaps, they contain many parts that can be easily damaged, and any customer service is extremely expensive. Vendor inspections of boards are also virtually impossible as the boards are sealed. He said he has worked with vendors in the past (e.g., zfrontier), and those GBs had been a pain for buyers and himself. For anything, a buyer communicates with the vendor, and vendor communicates with him, a lot is lost in the process and everything is delayed further. He said based on the experience with Think6.5v1 GB, most EU buyers actually find direct shipping a smooth process. Potter said he will check with his DHL agent on what can be done about customs valuation within legal bounds and with the items insured.
Post by: SxM Designs on Sat, 06 June 2020, 16:23:59
Post by: prizeS on Sat, 06 June 2020, 17:22:42
Hi oldcat,
I wanted to know if you looked into the EU proxy and found something out?
Potter said after thinking further, he will not be working with another vendor (EU or elsewhere), most due to customer service and accountability issues. Keyboards are different from keycaps, they contain many parts that can be easily damaged, and any customer service is extremely expensive. Vendor inspections of boards are also virtually impossible as the boards are sealed. He said he has worked with vendors in the past (e.g., zfrontier), and those GBs had been a pain for buyers and himself. For anything, a buyer communicates with the vendor, and vendor communicates with him, a lot is lost in the process and everything is delayed further. He said based on the experience with Think6.5v1 GB, most EU buyers actually find direct shipping a smooth process. Potter said he will check with his DHL agent on what can be done about customs valuation within legal bounds and with the items insured.
oldcat with the clutch info. not in EU personally but my friend is. appreciate it always!
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 06 June 2020, 23:44:00
(https://i.imgur.com/ehLV9Aq.jpg)
Post by: PotatoTM on Sun, 07 June 2020, 00:05:00
Prototype Plate (Fr-4 version), what other plate colors do you like to be included?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ehLV9Aq.jpg)
If there's no dark PC option then I'd vote for a white plate/pcb option
Post by: villagepillage on Sun, 07 June 2020, 01:04:54
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sun, 07 June 2020, 01:45:37
Prototype Plate (Fr-4 version), what other plate colors do you like to be included?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ehLV9Aq.jpg)
Wow that looks insanely good. The outlining around each cutout is beautiful. I like the dark color (can’t tell if it’s black or gray) because of the high contrast with the outlining. I think it would be less bold/interesting on a light color. I do think an FR4 plate should match the pcb if possible. I stand behind my previous recommendations of black, dark gray, navy blue, or dark purple for consideration for the pcb color. I also personally prefer the idea of a darker pcb rather than white/light color because I like to have something to see through the polycarbonate. I just think that something should be somewhat neutral in color so as to not clash with too many keycap sets.
One comment not related to color: are those outlines thick enough to be seen from under the switches once they’re inserted? It would be a shame if they vanish during assembly (yes I realize you won’t see them anyway once the board is assembled but nothing about this hobby is rational lmao).
Post by: Kalabalik on Sun, 07 June 2020, 01:47:24
Do you have a picture of it not covered by bubble wrap?Prototype Plate (Fr-4 version), what other plate colors do you like to be included?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ehLV9Aq.jpg)
If there's no dark PC option then I'd vote for a white plate/pcb option
Post by: Hawksmoor on Sun, 07 June 2020, 06:09:21
Do you have a picture of it not covered by bubble wrap?Prototype Plate (Fr-4 version), what other plate colors do you like to be included?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ehLV9Aq.jpg)
If there's no dark PC option then I'd vote for a white plate/pcb option
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Post by: hottrout on Sun, 07 June 2020, 06:27:05
Post by: StateSheriff on Sun, 07 June 2020, 06:27:41
The colour isn't as crucial to me as I won't go for polycarb, but I agree with the other guy that it should (for the most part) match the PCB!
Post by: SxM Designs on Sun, 07 June 2020, 06:30:34
Post by: natevas on Sun, 07 June 2020, 06:44:37
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 07 June 2020, 11:27:46
Do you have a picture of it not covered by bubble wrap?Prototype Plate (Fr-4 version), what other plate colors do you like to be included?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ehLV9Aq.jpg)
If there's no dark PC option then I'd vote for a white plate/pcb option
Here is one from Potter!
(https://i.imgur.com/JgQmAh0.jpg)
Post by: Joelmo on Sun, 07 June 2020, 12:04:46
Post by: dRnRcRr on Sun, 07 June 2020, 13:23:16
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 07 June 2020, 15:17:04
Is the GB still targeting July as per the original post? Incredibly excited for this kit.
Potter is confirmed to go to the factory this upcoming week to pick up the Think6.5v2 prototypes as well as to move the Space65 R2 GB forward to the surface treatment stage!
I am very hopeful for July!
And a couple of GMK Nord renders with the electrophoresis-arctic blue color we are working on:
(https://i.imgur.com/fBmMv4Y.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TRgkv7B.jpg)
Post by: SxM Designs on Sun, 07 June 2020, 15:49:15
Post by: Clay333 on Sun, 07 June 2020, 16:13:49
Post by: Little4Real on Sun, 07 June 2020, 16:42:04
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 07 June 2020, 19:53:53
Will this be an unlimited group buy, raffle, or a FCFS type of deal? I have been admiring the V1 of this board since they first shipped and want to get in on this really bad, just feeling a little demoralized after loosing 2 raffle group buys this weekend.
I think this is gonna be an unlimited GB like the original Think 6.5.
Yes, it will be a limited time, unlimited slot Group Buy hosted on graystudio.club
And by the way every time I see your profile pic, I am very happy.
Post by: SxM Designs on Mon, 08 June 2020, 02:08:01
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 08 June 2020, 10:49:52
Sorry to bother again, but I wanted to know what is the lead time and shipment ( in approx months) since I may have vacation/ moving end of this year. I will plan accordingly.
We are targeting 3-4 months. The Space65 R2 ended on April 18th, and it is in surface treatment stage now, targeting end of July shipment.
Do not worry, you can change your address after joining the GB.
Post by: SirTimmyTimbit on Mon, 08 June 2020, 11:11:09
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 08 June 2020, 11:25:23
(https://i.imgur.com/bpW0f02.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/r4WEKbi.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/myZ2v79.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/NHAa4gf.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/VWyCRmC.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/SnmwOVb.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/4RQhrxV.jpg)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 08 June 2020, 11:46:42
I made a logo badge, would this be of interest as a default badge? It's actually a bit more complicated to make.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bpW0f02.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/r4WEKbi.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/myZ2v79.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NHAa4gf.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VWyCRmC.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SnmwOVb.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4RQhrxV.jpg)
Personally, the light bulb is still my favorite to be included as the default badge. I think it provides useful continuity of design from v1.0 to v2.0. I also just think it looks good. If only one badge is included, I would prefer that it be the light bulb.
That being said, I also like the Graystudio logo, and I understand the interest in including it in a visible manner. If it isn't a huge increase, I wouldn't personally be upset if the board price were slightly higher to allow for a Graystudio badge to also be included as a second badge. Maybe that's an unpopular opinion. If there's only one badge included, I would prefer that it be the light bulb though.
Post by: InediblePi on Mon, 08 June 2020, 13:25:31
Is the GB still targeting July as per the original post? Incredibly excited for this kit.
Potter is confirmed to go to the factory this upcoming week to pick up the Think6.5v2 prototypes as well as to move the Space65 R2 GB forward to the surface treatment stage!
I am very hopeful for July!
And a couple of GMK Nord renders with the electrophoresis-arctic blue color we are working on:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fBmMv4Y.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TRgkv7B.jpg)
Will the line above the 2U badge be a diffuser or micro holes like V1?
Post by: lz2019 on Mon, 08 June 2020, 15:44:19
1. is it already confirmed that Navy Blue will be offered?
2. in the case of 1U badge (at upper-right corner), the 3 keys below it is in the order Del --> PgUp --> PgDn, can I program it to be PgUp --> PgDn --> Del ?
thanks!
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 08 June 2020, 15:56:17
the thread is long, I didn't go over the discussion, sorry if it's repeated but I have two small things to confirm,
1. is it already confirmed that Navy Blue will be offered?
2. in the case of 1U badge (at upper-right corner), the 3 keys below it is in the order Del --> PgUp --> PgDn, can I program it to be PgUp --> PgDn --> Del ?
thanks!
I think color is still up in the air. I’m interested in frosted polycarbonate, so I haven’t paid that much attention. As for the keys, you can program any key on the board to be anything you want. You could make every key “F” if you wanted to. Whether or not you can match the legends to whatever you program the keys to though depends on your keycap set.
Post by: lz2019 on Mon, 08 June 2020, 16:11:38
the thread is long, I didn't go over the discussion, sorry if it's repeated but I have two small things to confirm,
1. is it already confirmed that Navy Blue will be offered?
2. in the case of 1U badge (at upper-right corner), the 3 keys below it is in the order Del --> PgUp --> PgDn, can I program it to be PgUp --> PgDn --> Del ?
thanks!
I think color is still up in the air. I’m interested in frosted polycarbonate, so I haven’t paid that much attention. As for the keys, you can program any key on the board to be anything you want. You could make every key “F” if you wanted to. Whether or not you can match the legends to whatever you program the keys to though depends on your keycap set.
Got it. This is very cool! :cool:
Post by: Clay333 on Mon, 08 June 2020, 17:54:11
I made a logo badge, would this be of interest as a default badge? It's actually a bit more complicated to make.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bpW0f02.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/r4WEKbi.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/myZ2v79.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NHAa4gf.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VWyCRmC.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SnmwOVb.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4RQhrxV.jpg)
That badge looks great in the top right, but the light bulb looks best on mid right. Don't know what it is but the new badge doesn't look quite right above the arrows. Either way it's a very nice design. Can't wait to get in on the group buy. It will be nice to actually get a board and not just loose raffles.
Post by: prizeS on Mon, 08 June 2020, 18:12:43
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 08 June 2020, 19:39:39
I made a logo badge, would this be of interest as a default badge? It's actually a bit more complicated to make.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bpW0f02.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/r4WEKbi.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/myZ2v79.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NHAa4gf.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VWyCRmC.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SnmwOVb.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4RQhrxV.jpg)
Personally, the light bulb is still my favorite to be included as the default badge. I think it provides useful continuity of design from v1.0 to v2.0. I also just think it looks good. If only one badge is included, I would prefer that it be the light bulb.
That being said, I also like the Graystudio logo, and I understand the interest in including it in a visible manner. If it isn't a huge increase, I wouldn't personally be upset if the board price were slightly higher to allow for a Graystudio badge to also be included as a second badge. Maybe that's an unpopular opinion. If there's only one badge included, I would prefer that it be the light bulb though.
Unless there is an overwhelming interest, I think we might just be better off skipping including the new Gray logo badge, to avoid unnecessary complexity for the already-complex GB :) Will run a quick poll and see.
Post by: StateSheriff on Mon, 08 June 2020, 19:52:59
And the weight will be the anchor as shown above with no options?
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 08 June 2020, 22:50:24
Would be good to get a clear image of what badge design options there will be because I'm kind of confused at this point lol. My understanding right now is that the options are the lightbulb, compass, or anchor? (Not including the recent grey studio logo suggestion)
And the weight will be the anchor as shown above with no options?
I will share a render of the badge options. If there are no surprises (i.e., many people like the Gray logo to be the default badge), there will be a default badge of the OG think logo (lightbulb+gear) with one marine-themed badge as an option (currently, 1U is anchor, 2U is compass - these choices are mainly due to the lighting designs - do note that there will be diffused LED lights from under the badge through a diffuser and for some badges the lights cannot diffuse properly as per simulations).
You are correct that there are no weight options. This is as customizable as we can make it to be.
Post by: gnomesayin on Tue, 09 June 2020, 00:27:06
Post by: enjoidis on Tue, 09 June 2020, 01:30:25
I made a logo badge, would this be of interest as a default badge? It's actually a bit more complicated to make.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bpW0f02.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/r4WEKbi.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/myZ2v79.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NHAa4gf.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VWyCRmC.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SnmwOVb.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4RQhrxV.jpg)
That is a pretty sweet badge, I like it and the compass best, I'd be down for both the compass and the new one for sure!
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Tue, 09 June 2020, 08:31:28
Post by: Ptaty on Tue, 09 June 2020, 10:16:24
Really loving the top right hand corner option!
Post by: oalmali on Tue, 09 June 2020, 11:00:21
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 09 June 2020, 12:07:55
Forgive the horrendously low-quality picture, proper photoshoots will be done with I receive them in the mail :) I am just excited to share with you this sneak peak.
And it appears Potter is too excited to get it done and did not notice that the 1U badge chamfer has not been added yet (it will be).
And prototypes for the 2U in other colors, and the polycarbonate version are forthcoming in the next few days.
(https://i.imgur.com/DBv0dLu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rQzo1KV.jpg)
Post by: CrazyAssMonkey on Tue, 09 June 2020, 12:18:06
Tested anodizing a 1U prototype today!Wow that looks nice.
Forgive the horrendously low-quality picture, proper photoshoots will be done with I receive them in the mail :) I am just excited to share with you this sneak peak.
And it appears Potter is too excited to get it done and did not notice that the 1U badge chamfer has not been added yet (it will be).
And prototypes for the 2U in other colors, and the polycarbonate version are forthcoming in the next few days.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DBv0dLu.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rQzo1KV.jpg)
Ne purple avail? :3
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Post by: lamonayon on Tue, 09 June 2020, 12:18:40
Tested anodizing a 1U prototype today!
Forgive the horrendously low-quality picture, proper photoshoots will be done with I receive them in the mail :) I am just excited to share with you this sneak peak.
And it appears Potter is too excited to get it done and did not notice that the 1U badge chamfer has not been added yet (it will be).
And prototypes for the 2U in other colors, and the polycarbonate version are forthcoming in the next few days.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DBv0dLu.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rQzo1KV.jpg)
Can't wait, oldcat! Make sure the Panda 🐼 is there please!
Post by: SxM Designs on Tue, 09 June 2020, 12:45:03
Post by: Slayer77 on Tue, 09 June 2020, 12:49:37
Tested anodizing a 1U prototype today!Clean :)
Forgive the horrendously low-quality picture, proper photoshoots will be done with I receive them in the mail :) I am just excited to share with you this sneak peak.
And it appears Potter is too excited to get it done and did not notice that the 1U badge chamfer has not been added yet (it will be).
And prototypes for the 2U in other colors, and the polycarbonate version are forthcoming in the next few days.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DBv0dLu.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rQzo1KV.jpg)
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Post by: dlavelle94 on Tue, 09 June 2020, 13:33:04
Post by: Rejeckted on Tue, 09 June 2020, 13:40:32
Just want to confirm, is this an unlimited group buy, or restricted slots?
Oldcat answered this a few responses earlier
Will this be an unlimited group buy, raffle, or a FCFS type of deal? I have been admiring the V1 of this board since they first shipped and want to get in on this really bad, just feeling a little demoralized after loosing 2 raffle group buys this weekend.I think this is gonna be an unlimited GB like the original Think 6.5.
Yes, it will be a limited time, unlimited slot Group Buy hosted on graystudio.club
And by the way every time I see your profile pic, I am very happy.
Post by: musicgecko on Tue, 09 June 2020, 14:32:19
Also would we there be the option to choose polycarb plate while getting alu top and bottom? or get as an extra?
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 09 June 2020, 18:33:38
would still want light bulb 2u over the logo ver.
Also would we there be the option to choose polycarb plate while getting alu top and bottom? or get as an extra?
Regarding the badges, I am sticking with the old plan and not sure there is even a need to check about the “logo badge,” It’s my hunch that it’s highly unlikely the logo badge will be preferred
Looks like we won’t be offering Polycarb plate, and extra top or bottom will complicate things further. So sorry they won’t be offered as extras. Lessens learned from V1 run is that the only way to fulfill a GB in the promised timeframe is to keep the GB as simple as possible :)
Post by: Slayer77 on Tue, 09 June 2020, 18:39:48
How is the fr4 plate material? Will it provide flex like a poly plate?would still want light bulb 2u over the logo ver.
Also would we there be the option to choose polycarb plate while getting alu top and bottom? or get as an extra?
Regarding the badges, I am sticking with the old plan and not sure there is even a need to check about the “logo badge,” It’s my hunch that it’s highly unlikely the logo badge will be preferred
Looks like we won’t be offering Polycarb plate, and extra top or bottom will complicate things further. So sorry they won’t be offered as extras. Lessens learned from V1 run is that the only way to fulfill a GB in the promised timeframe is to keep the GB as simple as possible :)
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Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 09 June 2020, 22:36:45
How is the fr4 plate material? Will it provide flex like a poly plate?would still want light bulb 2u over the logo ver.
Also would we there be the option to choose polycarb plate while getting alu top and bottom? or get as an extra?
Regarding the badges, I am sticking with the old plan and not sure there is even a need to check about the “logo badge,” It’s my hunch that it’s highly unlikely the logo badge will be preferred
Looks like we won’t be offering Polycarb plate, and extra top or bottom will complicate things further. So sorry they won’t be offered as extras. Lessens learned from V1 run is that the only way to fulfill a GB in the promised timeframe is to keep the GB as simple as possible :)
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FR4 is the material PCBs are made of. It doesn’t flex as much as polycarbonate, but it does flex more than aluminum, brass, or steel.
Post by: Slayer77 on Wed, 10 June 2020, 00:40:02
Thanks! I am pretty new to this and have only tried alu and stainless steel. Would you recommend fr4 for linears?How is the fr4 plate material? Will it provide flex like a poly plate?would still want light bulb 2u over the logo ver.
Also would we there be the option to choose polycarb plate while getting alu top and bottom? or get as an extra?
Regarding the badges, I am sticking with the old plan and not sure there is even a need to check about the “logo badge,” It’s my hunch that it’s highly unlikely the logo badge will be preferred
Looks like we won’t be offering Polycarb plate, and extra top or bottom will complicate things further. So sorry they won’t be offered as extras. Lessens learned from V1 run is that the only way to fulfill a GB in the promised timeframe is to keep the GB as simple as possible :)
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FR4 is the material PCBs are made of. It doesn’t flex as much as polycarbonate, but it does flex more than aluminum, brass, or steel.
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Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 10 June 2020, 01:13:56
Thanks! I am pretty new to this and have only tried alu and stainless steel. Would you recommend fr4 for linears?How is the fr4 plate material? Will it provide flex like a poly plate?would still want light bulb 2u over the logo ver.
Also would we there be the option to choose polycarb plate while getting alu top and bottom? or get as an extra?
Regarding the badges, I am sticking with the old plan and not sure there is even a need to check about the “logo badge,” It’s my hunch that it’s highly unlikely the logo badge will be preferred
Looks like we won’t be offering Polycarb plate, and extra top or bottom will complicate things further. So sorry they won’t be offered as extras. Lessens learned from V1 run is that the only way to fulfill a GB in the promised timeframe is to keep the GB as simple as possible :)
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FR4 is the material PCBs are made of. It doesn’t flex as much as polycarbonate, but it does flex more than aluminum, brass, or steel.
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Honestly I’ve never used an FR4 plate either, at least not in one of my own boards. I may have tried one at a meetup at some point, but I honestly can’t remember. I have used a plateless board with PCB mount switches, which I guess is similar since the degree of flex comes from the FR4 of the PCB. While not a very satisfying answer, the most truthful answer I can give you is that you have to decide for yourself if you like it. I know, totally useless—but also true. Obviously there is a pandemic in the way, but the best way to figure out your preferences is to go to a meetup when you can and if there is one in your area. Regarding the type of switch, I’m not sure one plate material is necessarily best for linear VS. Tactile. I think it just depends on what kind of bottom out you prefer in general.
I will say this, which might actually be helpful: the FR4 will definitely flex more than the aluminum and steel that you’ve tried. Personally, as someone who grew up typing on Apple laptop keyboards, I find that because it’s what I’m used to, I actually prefer a harder bottom out (and therefore stiffer plate) with light actuation force switches. So I tend to go for aluminum or brass plates, and my favorite switches are 62g zealios for tactile and tealios for linear but with 60g springs in them. Clickies I don’t really use, but I have a box white board, and they’re fine.
There are a number of videos on YouTube comparing plate material that have the added benefit of you being able to hear the effect of the plate on sound. I’d recommend taking a look to help inform your decision. Hope that helped a little!
Post by: Slayer77 on Wed, 10 June 2020, 01:19:13
Thanks! This just confused me more, guess I will get 2 plates now hahaThanks! I am pretty new to this and have only tried alu and stainless steel. Would you recommend fr4 for linears?How is the fr4 plate material? Will it provide flex like a poly plate?would still want light bulb 2u over the logo ver.
Also would we there be the option to choose polycarb plate while getting alu top and bottom? or get as an extra?
Regarding the badges, I am sticking with the old plan and not sure there is even a need to check about the “logo badge,” It’s my hunch that it’s highly unlikely the logo badge will be preferred
Looks like we won’t be offering Polycarb plate, and extra top or bottom will complicate things further. So sorry they won’t be offered as extras. Lessens learned from V1 run is that the only way to fulfill a GB in the promised timeframe is to keep the GB as simple as possible :)
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FR4 is the material PCBs are made of. It doesn’t flex as much as polycarbonate, but it does flex more than aluminum, brass, or steel.
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Honestly I’ve never used an FR4 plate either, at least not in one of my own boards. I may have tried one at a meetup at some point, but I honestly can’t remember. I have used a plateless board with PCB mount switches, which I guess is similar since the degree of flex comes from the FR4 of the PCB. While not a very satisfying answer, the most truthful answer I can give you is that you have to decide for yourself if you like it. I know, totally useless—but also true. Obviously there is a pandemic in the way, but the best way to figure out your preferences is to go to a meetup when you can and if there is one in your area. Regarding the type of switch, I’m not sure one plate material is necessarily best for linear VS. Tactile. I think it just depends on what kind of bottom out you prefer in general.
I will say this, which might actually be helpful: the FR4 will definitely flex more than the aluminum and steel that you’ve tried. Personally, as someone who grew up typing on Apple laptop keyboards, I find that because it’s what I’m used to, I actually prefer a harder bottom out (and therefore stiffer plate) with light actuation force switches. So I tend to go for aluminum or brass plates, and my favorite switches are 62g zealios for tactile and tealios for linear but with 60g springs in them. Clickies I don’t really use, but I have a box white board, and they’re fine.
There are a number of videos on YouTube comparing plate material that have the added benefit of you being able to hear the effect of the plate on sound. I’d recommend taking a look to help inform your decision. Hope that helped a little!
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Post by: dstaar on Wed, 10 June 2020, 01:20:45
I am definitely in for this. One of my favorite designs and missed v1
+1
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 10 June 2020, 02:47:59
Thanks! This just confused me more, guess I will get 2 plates now haha
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My bad. I’m really wordy, and I’ve been watching movies and drinking. My understanding is that the flex ranking, from most flex to least flex, is polycarbonate>FR4>aluminum>brass>steel. Carbon fiber can vary depending on the specific composition of the carbon fiber composite used but is somewhere in the FR4-aluminum range. Hopefully that’s more helpful. Also keep in mind that mounting affects the feel as well. If you’re used to an aluminum plate on a bottom mount board that has standoffs supporting the PCB from below, the gasket mount on this Think6.5 v2 will make the same aluminum plate material feel a little softer. The plate can flex more and the gasket material also absorbs some of the impact of each keystroke.
Post by: isaiasr212 on Wed, 10 June 2020, 03:04:51
Post by: Frostbyte on Wed, 10 June 2020, 07:11:52
You can possibly consider selling badges as an extra cost, maybe a full set? I'd definitely be interested in purchasing the whole set, as I'll be purchasing each of the v2's being offered.
I'd like this too, mostly if the sailboat was still an option. I'm busted up that the sailboat has disappeared from the board, I loved that thing. :(
Post by: StateSheriff on Wed, 10 June 2020, 10:07:44
Post by: gilbert on Wed, 10 June 2020, 10:15:50
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 10 June 2020, 13:14:38
Note that we will likely provide both e-white and e-beige colors. E-white will be a cooler white as rendered, E-beige will be a warmer white (something like the epbt cool kids).
(https://i.imgur.com/2JNijtd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qgyMxsk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eIfk1fw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OUVvfaf.jpg)
Post by: ImunizE on Wed, 10 June 2020, 14:14:30
(https://i.imgur.com/44hvbCf.jpg)
Updating a few e-white renders of 1U with GMK Shoko and Wildcat deskmat. Note that the Wildcat Deskmat is not associated with this GB (It is wildcat's personal design and not for sale at this point).
Note that we will likely provide both e-white and e-beige colors. E-white will be a cooler white as rendered, E-beige will be a warmer white (something like the epbt cool kids).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2JNijtd.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qgyMxsk.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eIfk1fw.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OUVvfaf.jpg)
Post by: EndlesslyWandering on Wed, 10 June 2020, 18:04:10
Post by: Vncity86 on Wed, 10 June 2020, 18:13:49
Can't wait!
Post by: StateSheriff on Wed, 10 June 2020, 18:53:14
Renders are nice, looking forward to seeing a fully built prototype!
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 10 June 2020, 19:38:48
Post by: dRnRcRr on Wed, 10 June 2020, 22:42:45
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 11 June 2020, 11:35:22
Can you please answer if there is going to be an option without the badge? I saw some people asking this (including me), and you aren't responding to these questions (unless I just haven't seen your reponse, then sorry).
Unsure if I will do badgeless again, from the data perspective, there were not that many people choosing badgeless during the R1 Think6.5 GB, and adding a different top piece increases production costs significantly. If cost permits, I would like to offer 2 badge position options this time as opposed to having badgeless. Hope you understand.
To be honest, I really liked the old design. I'm not feeling this one (yet). I'm hoping there will be a Polycarbonate version?
Thanks! Yes I do plan to offer PC as long as the GB is not too complicated - weighing different aspects now. Might have to cut out hotswap and badgeless this time.
I made a few changes to the design already with community feedback. Hope you will feel the THiNK soon! And thanks for being patient and tolerant with my new designs.
Post by: buumb on Thu, 11 June 2020, 13:23:36
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 11 June 2020, 14:52:21
The goal is to gauge whether the lightbulb+gear is still the most preferred, as we plan to have 1 default badge for 1U and 2U, respectively. And then 1 optional badge. Given multiple colors will likely be offered, 3 will be too much for Potter.
(https://i.imgur.com/kRA8VAx.jpg)
Post by: SxM Designs on Thu, 11 June 2020, 15:45:51
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Thu, 11 June 2020, 15:49:24
lightbulb and gear is the best defaultAgreed, as far as I am concerned.
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Post by: Daddyfatsax on Thu, 11 June 2020, 16:05:25
Post by: oalmali on Thu, 11 June 2020, 17:24:21
Post by: chowder266 on Thu, 11 June 2020, 18:10:10
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 11 June 2020, 18:28:15
I apologize if this has been answered already or a novice question but is Think6.5 2.0 compatible with other pcbs available in the market?
It's a custom PCB
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 11 June 2020, 18:29:31
lightbulb and gear is the best defaultAgreed, as far as I am concerned.
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Agreed
Post by: Ellen_Degenocide on Thu, 11 June 2020, 20:01:00
Post by: ShovelScum on Thu, 11 June 2020, 22:12:36
Hesitant in trying to get a poll going so late in the IC stage, but quite a few people have requested it so here it is. Please leave a reply here or on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTo3hrHnRb/
The goal is to gauge whether the lightbulb+gear is still the most preferred, as we plan to have 1 default badge for 1U and 2U, respectively. And then 1 optional badge. Given multiple colors will likely be offered, 3 will be too much for Potter.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kRA8VAx.jpg)
So i am just going to say it. I think the default should be the badges that match the theme. So i am going to say Option "B" should be the default badge, to match the Anchor themed weight. But that is just me. I would like to see one of the other badges will be an option, cause i'd love to have both. I like the Compass badge, and not sure why everyone is so against the nautical theme. I understand that it may not match EVERY keycap set you want it to, but that is what the color options are for....
Post by: fabijolo on Fri, 12 June 2020, 00:12:11
Post by: Slayer77 on Fri, 12 June 2020, 00:14:03
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Post by: Ztox on Fri, 12 June 2020, 06:27:08
Is the weight on the back definitely an anchor? Because if so, the contrast between that and keeping the original lightbulb makes less sense to me.
I don't really like the anchor but I agree with this.
Dream setup for me would be the 2u light bulb on top and the Gray Studio logo on the bottom but I appreciate that the bottom anchor is probably set already.
Post by: Rhk on Fri, 12 June 2020, 08:02:00
Is the weight on the back definitely an anchor? Because if so, the contrast between that and keeping the original lightbulb makes less sense to me.
Agreed
Post by: lamonayon on Fri, 12 June 2020, 08:20:51
Hesitant in trying to get a poll going so late in the IC stage, but quite a few people have requested it so here it is. Please leave a reply here or on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBTo3hrHnRb/
The goal is to gauge whether the lightbulb+gear is still the most preferred, as we plan to have 1 default badge for 1U and 2U, respectively. And then 1 optional badge. Given multiple colors will likely be offered, 3 will be too much for Potter.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kRA8VAx.jpg)
These two oldcat :D
Post by: cadrev on Fri, 12 June 2020, 08:23:14
will this be an issue too or not?
Post by: Natedog351 on Fri, 12 June 2020, 10:35:02
Post by: godofdeath on Fri, 12 June 2020, 11:03:05
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Post by: musicgecko on Fri, 12 June 2020, 11:50:19
If it's light bulb or the studio logo (what is it supposed to be anyways?), then what's the theme? Are people voting for lightbulb because they want new badges for their v1s or just simply want another v1 run?.
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Fri, 12 June 2020, 12:13:10
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 12 June 2020, 13:20:50
Hey oldcat, just wanted to ask if this design comes with a USB-C daughterboard? I just saw the Polaris having an issue with the usb port due to its gasket mount design (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/h7gofy/polaris_owners_usb_port_stress/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/h7gofy/polaris_owners_usb_port_stress/)),
will this be an issue too or not?
The prototypes will be tested by myself as well as via live stream with Alexotos. I will be sending him a couple of prototypes soon!
The gaskets we made are different from those on the market or ones used on Polaris, so I cannot speak to whether it will have similar concerns until I test the prototypes.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 12 June 2020, 13:21:45
Would really prefer just a blank blocker if possible.
You can 3D print or CNC machine your own blocker badge after GB :)
The blank badge files will be shared after the GB fulfillment.
Post by: dereknt on Fri, 12 June 2020, 13:25:07
Since it's already been decided that the anchor weight is on the back, I want the anchor weight or compass badge option to fit the nautical theme.
If it's light bulb or the studio logo (what is it supposed to be anyways?), then what's the theme? Are people voting for lightbulb because they want new badges for their v1s or just simply want another v1 run?.
Don't know about the other but the reason I vote for light bulb is because I want the theme to be "Think6.5". Not V1, not V2, just Think6.5. That is the entire appeal of the Think6.5 is to me: non-corner badge placement like every other board and the light bulb lights up when I am in fact "Thinking". The reason I want the V2 is because of gasket mounting. Gasket mount board with interesting design is hard to come by.
This is definitely just my opinion and does not reflect opinion of others.
Post by: JvMil on Fri, 12 June 2020, 15:19:34
But if it is possible to buy the compass as an extra option, I would be fine with that too
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 12 June 2020, 16:48:05
Since it's already been decided that the anchor weight is on the back, I want the anchor weight or compass badge option to fit the nautical theme.
If it's light bulb or the studio logo (what is it supposed to be anyways?), then what's the theme? Are people voting for lightbulb because they want new badges for their v1s or just simply want another v1 run?.
Don't know about the other but the reason I vote for light bulb is because I want the theme to be "Think6.5". Not V1, not V2, just Think6.5. That is the entire appeal of the Think6.5 is to me: non-corner badge placement like every other board and the light bulb lights up when I am in fact "Thinking". The reason I want the V2 is because of gasket mounting. Gasket mount board with interesting design is hard to come by.
This is definitely just my opinion and does not reflect opinion of others.
This is my intention too :) Gasket mount board with an interesting design (glad you think so!)
And Potter has invested a significant amount of money to inject-mold the gaskets, which will be unveiled later.
Post by: dereknt on Fri, 12 June 2020, 17:02:12
You spent a lot of time worry about what people want and like. Really interested to see what oldcat likes if you want to render it LOL.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 12 June 2020, 17:35:35
Hey oldcat, what would YOUR Think6.5 v2 look like? With any color combination, badge combination, and any keycaps.
You spent a lot of time worry about what people want and like. Really interested to see what oldcat likes if you want to render it LOL.
This one will be my ideal keyboard desktop set up, with GMK Shoko and Wildcat deskmat :)
(https://i.imgur.com/2JNijtd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qgyMxsk.jpg)
Post by: Madrai on Fri, 12 June 2020, 17:56:08
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 13 June 2020, 01:57:46
Anodized ones will come later.
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Post by: fabijolo on Sat, 13 June 2020, 08:19:02
Post by: Ninja_Lawyer on Sat, 13 June 2020, 11:58:46
I'm in for this!
Post by: KMPLSV on Sat, 13 June 2020, 12:13:42
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Post by: bigern302 on Sat, 13 June 2020, 12:26:26
Post by: Llamakob on Sat, 13 June 2020, 12:33:41
Anyways love the design
Post by: StateSheriff on Sat, 13 June 2020, 12:57:13
Really good keeb you've got going here. Is there any way that we can get a EU proxy like candykeys or myleyboard. As someone who lives in Europe import taxes really kill me. With international shipping plus VAT the price of this keeb would go up to 500 instead of 350. I'd love to get this keyboard but 500 is just a bit too much.There's a conclusion from oldcat about this somewhere above. Essentially they decided they won't proxy because it creates too much potential for problems with something of this cost.
Anyways love the design
Post by: Clay333 on Sat, 13 June 2020, 16:15:59
Post by: acaban on Sat, 13 June 2020, 17:37:51
Really good keeb you've got going here. Is there any way that we can get a EU proxy like candykeys or myleyboard. As someone who lives in Europe import taxes really kill me. With international shipping plus VAT the price of this keeb would go up to 500 instead of 350. I'd love to get this keyboard but 500 is just a bit too much.There's a conclusion from oldcat about this somewhere above. Essentially they decided they won't proxy because it creates too much potential for problems with something of this cost.
Anyways love the design
I missed this part, where was it said?
Post by: StateSheriff on Sat, 13 June 2020, 18:09:50
Here it is
Potter said after thinking further, he will not be working with another vendor (EU or elsewhere), most due to customer service and accountability issues. Keyboards are different from keycaps, they contain many parts that can be easily damaged, and any customer service is extremely expensive. Vendor inspections of boards are also virtually impossible as the boards are sealed. He said he has worked with vendors in the past (e.g., zfrontier), and those GBs had been a pain for buyers and himself. For anything, a buyer communicates with the vendor, and vendor communicates with him, a lot is lost in the process and everything is delayed further. He said based on the experience with Think6.5v1 GB, most EU buyers actually find direct shipping a smooth process. Potter said he will check with his DHL agent on what can be done about customs valuation within legal bounds and with the items insured.
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 13 June 2020, 21:55:14
Next, I have asked Potter (requested by some discord members and friends here) to make gaskets of varying softness and different materials, so I can test them and see if I can find the optimal softness and material. The prototypes should be sent to me soon once the new gaskets are made (a week or so). In the meantime, Potter said he will take some pictures of the Think6.5v2 prototypes and the Space65 ano samples. PC prototypes are also done, pictures forthcoming.
Here is a purple anodization prototype (EVA purple):
(https://i.imgur.com/acSHAql.jpg)
Post by: Rejeckted on Sat, 13 June 2020, 22:02:56
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Post by: MonsterM on Sat, 13 June 2020, 22:11:17
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Post by: jo h n on Sat, 13 June 2020, 22:22:12
Post by: leexy on Sat, 13 June 2020, 22:46:16
The prototypes will be tested by myself as well as via live stream with Alexotos. I will be sending him a couple of prototypes soon!
can you get a more reputable and experienced streamer to build and test the prototype?
Post by: Trixxur on Sat, 13 June 2020, 23:36:39
Good news, the prototypes are confirmed to work perfectly by Potter. All-POM holy pandas were used in testing and the typing feel is sublime.
Next, I have asked Potter (requested by some discord members and friends here) to make gaskets of varying softness and different materials, so I can test them and see if I can find the optimal softness and material. The prototypes should be sent to me soon once the new gaskets are made (a week or so). In the meantime, Potter said he will take some pictures of the Think6.5v2 prototypes and the Space65 ano samples. PC prototypes are also done, pictures forthcoming.
Here is a purple anodization prototype (EVA purple):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/acSHAql.jpg)
damn that looks amazing.
Choosing a colour is going to be tough.
Post by: cadrev on Sun, 14 June 2020, 00:50:54
The prototypes will be tested by myself as well as via live stream with Alexotos. I will be sending him a couple of prototypes soon!
can you get a more reputable and experienced streamer to build and test the prototype?
Alexotos isn't reputable?
Post by: JoyousWhale on Sun, 14 June 2020, 03:29:27
Post by: Llamakob on Sun, 14 June 2020, 03:52:54
Really good keeb you've got going here. Is there any way that we can get a EU proxy like candykeys or myleyboard. As someone who lives in Europe import taxes really kill me. With international shipping plus VAT the price of this keeb would go up to 500 instead of 350. I'd love to get this keyboard but 500 is just a bit too much.There's a conclusion from oldcat about this somewhere above. Essentially they decided they won't proxy because it creates too much potential for problems with something of this cost.
Anyways love the design
Ahh to bad then. Well thanks for the info in that case. Gonna have to pass in that case as 500 is just too much for me at this moment. Good luck with the gropbuy potter
Post by: Kinesiologist on Sun, 14 June 2020, 13:38:28
Can you please elaborate on the following:
1. does the PCB have full ESD protection?
2. does the top and bottom piece of the case share the same color or have the option to do so?
3. can you show diagram of how the plate is mounted?
thank you
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 14 June 2020, 19:07:23
This project is looking good so far.
Can you please elaborate on the following:
1. does the PCB have full ESD protection?
2. does the top and bottom piece of the case share the same color or have the option to do so?
3. can you show diagram of how the plate is mounted?
thank you
Hey, thanks! Here are some answers:
1. does the PCB have full ESD protection? YES
2. does the top and bottom piece of the case share the same color or have the option to do so? Will plan some color combinations for the GB.
3. can you show diagram of how the plate is mounted? Do you mean a breakdown view of the board? Potter shared a picture of the gaskets here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBYtcDgnZQV/ ; and I will make some demonstration pictures later
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 14 June 2020, 23:53:50
(https://i.imgur.com/8ChGrIu.png)
Post by: fabijolo on Sun, 14 June 2020, 23:58:50
Post by: dstaar on Mon, 15 June 2020, 00:50:37
Post by: FunBox on Mon, 15 June 2020, 02:19:29
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Post by: Blehhh on Mon, 15 June 2020, 05:57:45
1.is the think65v2 Full gasket isolation mount?
2.what does half seemless means?
Thanks in advance and stay safe everyone :)
Post by: acaban on Mon, 15 June 2020, 07:29:02
Here it is
Potter said after thinking further, he will not be working with another vendor (EU or elsewhere), most due to customer service and accountability issues. Keyboards are different from keycaps, they contain many parts that can be easily damaged, and any customer service is extremely expensive. Vendor inspections of boards are also virtually impossible as the boards are sealed. He said he has worked with vendors in the past (e.g., zfrontier), and those GBs had been a pain for buyers and himself. For anything, a buyer communicates with the vendor, and vendor communicates with him, a lot is lost in the process and everything is delayed further. He said based on the experience with Think6.5v1 GB, most EU buyers actually find direct shipping a smooth process. Potter said he will check with his DHL agent on what can be done about customs valuation within legal bounds and with the items insured.
ok thank you, I hope this will not be expensive to ship to EU!
Post by: kevchigga on Mon, 15 June 2020, 09:19:42
1. does the PCB have full ESD protection? YES
2. does the top and bottom piece of the case share the same color or have the option to do so? Will plan some color combinations for the GB.
3. can you show diagram of how the plate is mounted? Do you mean a breakdown view of the board? Potter shared a picture of the gaskets here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBYtcDgnZQV/ ; and I will make some demonstration pictures later
I'm easy. I see a white case I buy! lmao. But to have a 2 tone option would be super cool! E-white top and black bottom = DONE DEAL. TAKE MY MONEY!
Post by: Spicemaster on Mon, 15 June 2020, 11:25:14
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 15 June 2020, 12:50:40
Hey, thanks! Here are some answers:
1. does the PCB have full ESD protection? YES
2. does the top and bottom piece of the case share the same color or have the option to do so? Will plan some color combinations for the GB.
3. can you show diagram of how the plate is mounted? Do you mean a breakdown view of the board? Potter shared a picture of the gaskets here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CBYtcDgnZQV/ ; and I will make some demonstration pictures later
I'm easy. I see a white case I buy! lmao. But to have a 2 tone option would be super cool! E-white top and black bottom = DONE DEAL. TAKE MY MONEY!
Yes I am actually a huge fan of the Panda colorway (e-white top and black bottom), for sure it will be offered.
Post by: chowder266 on Mon, 15 June 2020, 14:04:48
Post by: ninjacore on Mon, 15 June 2020, 14:53:21
https://imgur.com/a/lE3GqEb
Post by: LolChocotaco on Mon, 15 June 2020, 18:19:40
Post by: bigern302 on Mon, 15 June 2020, 18:35:41
Post by: dstaar on Mon, 15 June 2020, 20:50:10
GB is still scheduled in July?
is GB in beginning of July?
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 16 June 2020, 00:06:47
(https://i.imgur.com/6LDhqOc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8H05bwJ.jpg)
Post by: OsoKekkou on Tue, 16 June 2020, 00:38:44
Post by: Trixxur on Tue, 16 June 2020, 00:43:14
Post by: bigern302 on Tue, 16 June 2020, 00:48:19
Post by: RedBananaBread on Tue, 16 June 2020, 00:55:36
Post by: SxM Designs on Tue, 16 June 2020, 01:46:05
Post by: willyG on Tue, 16 June 2020, 02:44:03
Any chance of a black or gray polycarb??
Post by: Shiftbuzz on Tue, 16 June 2020, 06:59:05
Damn this half/half combo from your IG looks soooo good. Any chance this combo will be available?
Post by: Oddstag on Tue, 16 June 2020, 07:12:36
Post by: cLRLYY on Tue, 16 June 2020, 08:53:14
Post by: SteveV on Tue, 16 June 2020, 10:38:09
Post by: shb on Tue, 16 June 2020, 12:03:56
Curious, will this version also have a hotswap verison like the first run?
On his Instagram, he said that a hotswap version will not be an option for the GB but might have another plate+PCB run afterwards. Question is, how long after will that be? I think the interest in a hotswap PCB is really high and shouldve been an option in the upcoming GB.
Post by: jubei on Tue, 16 June 2020, 13:36:27
Curious, will this version also have a hotswap verison like the first run?
On his Instagram, he said that a hotswap version will not be an option for the GB but might have another plate+PCB run afterwards. Question is, how long after will that be? I think the interest in a hotswap PCB is really high and shouldve been an option in the upcoming GB.
Let’s have a vote :)
Post by: Vaudevi77ain on Tue, 16 June 2020, 14:26:09
Curious, will this version also have a hotswap verison like the first run?
On his Instagram, he said that a hotswap version will not be an option for the GB but might have another plate+PCB run afterwards. Question is, how long after will that be? I think the interest in a hotswap PCB is really high and shouldve been an option in the upcoming GB.
Will that additional plate run mean another weight design besides the anchor? Or just extras
Post by: SteveV on Tue, 16 June 2020, 17:58:46
Curious, will this version also have a hotswap verison like the first run?
On his Instagram, he said that a hotswap version will not be an option for the GB but might have another plate+PCB run afterwards. Question is, how long after will that be? I think the interest in a hotswap PCB is really high and shouldve been an option in the upcoming GB.
Thanks for the info and that's a bummer!
Post by: rewke on Tue, 16 June 2020, 18:19:52
Curious, will this version also have a hotswap verison like the first run?
On his Instagram, he said that a hotswap version will not be an option for the GB but might have another plate+PCB run afterwards. Question is, how long after will that be? I think the interest in a hotswap PCB is really high and shouldve been an option in the upcoming GB.
What!?!? Nooooooooooo
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 16 June 2020, 20:48:19
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 16 June 2020, 21:26:44
Oldcat explained that the lack of hotswap is due to a compatibility issue with the gasket mounting.
Yeah, it certainly can be done, but my experience with a couple of hotswap boards with thin plate (pcb screwed to the plate) is that it doesn't feel that nice. Hence I opt not to offer it. With a thick plate and PCB screwed to it, I can see it work well, but again people might not like thick plate sound.
Post by: FunBox on Tue, 16 June 2020, 21:35:51
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Post by: drlemon14afc on Wed, 17 June 2020, 06:58:02
Post by: StateSheriff on Wed, 17 June 2020, 08:16:02
Hey oldcat, you may have already mentioned this in the thread, or others may have but for those in Europe do you estimate the total cost of the board + shipping + taxes comes to approximately €500? Sorry if this has already been verified or if you're unable to give a figure at this time - just trying to pre-plan my budget to get this board as I missed out on r2
At 20% VAT rate for the aluminum base set you're looking at roughly €430 for board + shipping + taxes.
(Shipping isn't confirmed yet, I used an estimate of $40. Also the VAT rate and any extra duty will vary depending on your country.)
Post by: drlemon14afc on Wed, 17 June 2020, 09:41:08
Hey oldcat, you may have already mentioned this in the thread, or others may have but for those in Europe do you estimate the total cost of the board + shipping + taxes comes to approximately €500? Sorry if this has already been verified or if you're unable to give a figure at this time - just trying to pre-plan my budget to get this board as I missed out on r2
At 20% VAT rate for the aluminum base set you're looking at roughly €430 for board + shipping + taxes.
(Shipping isn't confirmed yet, I used an estimate of $40. Also the VAT rate and any extra duty will vary depending on your country.)
Thanks so much for that info! I was expecting around the €500 mark so anything under will be such a bonus - can't wait for the GB to drop!
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 17 June 2020, 10:17:46
Also, I am working on the GB color offering poll, should be out soon!
(https://i.imgur.com/INEVfqw.jpg)
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 17 June 2020, 10:37:37
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1b5Mma6KRHHaKYk9So2Im3hGWBhYtm0ZEAhtuHuNldHM/viewform
Post by: SxM Designs on Wed, 17 June 2020, 10:43:24
Post by: lz2019 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 11:16:39
and, any real sample of the Red in dual-color 4&9 ?
Post by: SirTimmyTimbit on Wed, 17 June 2020, 11:38:09
What are those lines of powder on the side? 🤔
Post by: Rejeckted on Wed, 17 June 2020, 11:55:21
Show Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/QsBtHFCPulX86rPyLnEzDz5udPID7IMp7KIRx_H374K3dczeXTb1Q2tNEKOQ3y0NkCaXcGCArmb_E3dFs8c9gqlnzZPSCm7lxHg3Ve4V1YfDoilVkey9KFKNWVhQ=w740)
What are those lines of powder on the side? 🤔
scratch marks from an oldcat. i had the same idea running through my head lol
Post by: noorejji on Wed, 17 June 2020, 12:25:11
Btw is that blue color a blue-grey? Blue steel?
Post by: acaban on Wed, 17 June 2020, 12:34:41
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 17 June 2020, 13:39:33
would be cool to have bigger images to understand better those colors!
Here you go!
(https://i.imgur.com/8DMiAay.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2YZyiPw.jpg)
Single Colors:
(https://i.imgur.com/EqsXHYw.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/VJDpKcp.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/vtSHmgc.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/1XOJ3aF.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/AGvLdwR.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/qsk7Eo2.png)
Mixed Colors:
(https://i.imgur.com/CcEoWhT.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZinNqQg.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/1M3G89j.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/afcGGhZ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/hwF2qsX.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/aen34bq.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/wi6WhC4.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/BR7bywM.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/kwdsm8Y.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/qFsmsSt.png)
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 17 June 2020, 14:49:15
Show Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/QsBtHFCPulX86rPyLnEzDz5udPID7IMp7KIRx_H374K3dczeXTb1Q2tNEKOQ3y0NkCaXcGCArmb_E3dFs8c9gqlnzZPSCm7lxHg3Ve4V1YfDoilVkey9KFKNWVhQ=w740)
What are those lines of powder on the side? 🤔
scratch marks from an oldcat. i had the same idea running through my head lol
Dang thanks for the clarification.... now i realize it does feel like some special powder
But hey this is the wildcat Deskmat haha
Post by: dRnRcRr on Wed, 17 June 2020, 15:00:47
Post by: chowder266 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 15:23:26
No ones wallet is safe
agreed, at this rate I'll probably have to get two boards...
Post by: Cresc3nt on Wed, 17 June 2020, 15:50:14
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 17 June 2020, 17:08:14
I knoiw you guys have stated that PC will be an option no matter what, but will we get to pick the color of the frosted polycarb ourselves?
What do you mean? It's uncolored.
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 17 June 2020, 18:02:24
I knoiw you guys have stated that PC will be an option no matter what, but will we get to pick the color of the frosted polycarb ourselves?
Frosted polycarb is just that og polycarb color. You might be able to dye it to other colors :)
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 17 June 2020, 19:58:33
I guess many purchased GMK Noel
(https://i.imgur.com/LLi8DoR.png)
Post by: erickeyboard on Wed, 17 June 2020, 20:32:54
Too late to put it into the poll, but after reading quite a few Instagram comments and the google form comments, white-pink seems to be a thing, any thoughts?
I guess many purchased GMK NoelShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/LLi8DoR.png)
This is beautiful
Post by: krpsh on Wed, 17 June 2020, 20:51:31
Too late to put it into the poll, but after reading quite a few Instagram comments and the google form comments, white-pink seems to be a thing, any thoughts?
I guess many purchased GMK NoelShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/LLi8DoR.png)
OMG my favorite pick!
Post by: ShovelScum on Wed, 17 June 2020, 21:50:26
Post by: Cresc3nt on Wed, 17 June 2020, 22:11:49
I knoiw you guys have stated that PC will be an option no matter what, but will we get to pick the color of the frosted polycarb ourselves?
Frosted polycarb is just that og polycarb color. You might be able to dye it to other colors :)
Oh, I guess I misunderstood the first page render since there was a frosted pink look. Would this look be best achieved with a blue alum bottom and a polycarb top and can you mix and match like that?
Post by: indigowhale on Wed, 17 June 2020, 23:17:52
Too late to put it into the poll, but after reading quite a few Instagram comments and the google form comments, white-pink seems to be a thing, any thoughts?
I guess many purchased GMK NoelShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/LLi8DoR.png)
yesssss this is beautiful
Post by: ShovelScum on Thu, 18 June 2020, 02:13:57
I knoiw you guys have stated that PC will be an option no matter what, but will we get to pick the color of the frosted polycarb ourselves?
Frosted polycarb is just that og polycarb color. You might be able to dye it to other colors :)
Oh, I guess I misunderstood the first page render since there was a frosted pink look. Would this look be best achieved with a blue alum bottom and a polycarb top and can you mix and match like that?
Dude, i was just thinking the same thing! I am thinking of buying 2, and swapping the top/bottom. So one with Alu-Top with PC bottom. Then having one with a PC top and Alu-bottom!
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 18 June 2020, 02:27:21
Am I right from looking at the prototype PCB pics that there is no per-key lighting except for a through-hole LED on the caps lock key? I mostly just use backlighting to remind myself which layer I'm using, but I was just curious.
Post by: scatman on Thu, 18 June 2020, 04:26:52
Post by: KMPLSV on Thu, 18 June 2020, 08:21:43
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Post by: friedtofu on Thu, 18 June 2020, 09:46:24
Too late to put it into the poll, but after reading quite a few Instagram comments and the google form comments, white-pink seems to be a thing, any thoughts?
I guess many purchased GMK NoelShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/LLi8DoR.png)
oh wow this is beautiful. YES please! One of my favorite picks. (though would also like to see a soft lilac as well!)
Post by: ImLeXz on Thu, 18 June 2020, 10:27:46
Too late to put it into the poll, but after reading quite a few Instagram comments and the google form comments, white-pink seems to be a thing, any thoughts?Please white and pink
I guess many purchased GMK NoelShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/LLi8DoR.png)
Post by: SxM Designs on Thu, 18 June 2020, 10:46:37
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Thu, 18 June 2020, 14:11:28
Is there a chance you can do a render with one or both of these caps sets, please?
Post by: PotatoTM on Thu, 18 June 2020, 14:46:58
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 18 June 2020, 15:59:04
(https://i.imgur.com/a7ZrVfs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bbFU7dr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1zbC8uj.jpg)
Post by: Rejeckted on Thu, 18 June 2020, 16:20:54
I will be responding to some of the questions above a bit later, just want to put this Unit-01 colorway out here to see if this will be something of interest. If the green bottom is too much, maybe a black bottom?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/a7ZrVfs.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bbFU7dr.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1zbC8uj.jpg)
:eek:
yes please. my $ is ready oldcat :D lol
i like the green bottom a lot
Post by: glack23 on Thu, 18 June 2020, 16:25:09
I will be responding to some of the questions above a bit later, just want to put this Unit-01 colorway out here to see if this will be something of interest. If the green bottom is too much, maybe a black bottom?I will prefer a black bottom and yes plsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/a7ZrVfs.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bbFU7dr.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1zbC8uj.jpg)
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Post by: drevan on Thu, 18 June 2020, 16:28:45
Post by: Oddstag on Thu, 18 June 2020, 16:39:48
I will be responding to some of the questions above a bit later, just want to put this Unit-01 colorway out here to see if this will be something of interest. If the green bottom is too much, maybe a black bottom?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/a7ZrVfs.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bbFU7dr.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1zbC8uj.jpg)
You already know I'm on board for this, but registering my interest in this colourway here as well since its the official place for it. Either black or green bottom would be great.
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Thu, 18 June 2020, 16:39:55
Post by: SolidCactus on Thu, 18 June 2020, 16:53:54
I will be responding to some of the questions above a bit later, just want to put this Unit-01 colorway out here to see if this will be something of interest. If the green bottom is too much, maybe a black bottom?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/a7ZrVfs.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bbFU7dr.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1zbC8uj.jpg)
Wow the bottom render is perfect combo
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Thu, 18 June 2020, 16:58:45
EDIT: Didn't look into this board til I saw it on the GMK Unit 01 thread. Also interested in knowing about choice of top/bottom colors, and more so about split space bar.
Might have to get a white top/black bottom and EVA 01. >_<
Post by: ZongZiWang on Thu, 18 June 2020, 17:00:59
It's hard to tell how grey is this grey, and I wonder if it's possible to render how the GMK Modo looks on the grey case (maybe even with cyan accent color)? Thanks if the render could happen!
Post by: hottrout on Thu, 18 June 2020, 17:01:01
Post by: drevan on Thu, 18 June 2020, 17:16:32
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 18 June 2020, 21:28:33
ohhh the possibilities... an EVA 01 badge would bring it all together and have the eyes shine through for LED or something
Yes. Also rendered a black bottom, purple top, green badge version to share soon!
Post by: Myaanz on Thu, 18 June 2020, 21:51:29
Post by: fabijolo on Fri, 19 June 2020, 00:11:28
Post by: Chobo on Fri, 19 June 2020, 00:59:54
ohhh the possibilities... an EVA 01 badge would bring it all together and have the eyes shine through for LED or something
That would be a dream come true lol
Post by: Myaanz on Fri, 19 June 2020, 04:08:39
Post by: tiffgu123 on Fri, 19 June 2020, 04:45:00
Post by: villagepillage on Fri, 19 June 2020, 05:00:10
That special powder helped you create those renders so quick lolShow Image(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/QsBtHFCPulX86rPyLnEzDz5udPID7IMp7KIRx_H374K3dczeXTb1Q2tNEKOQ3y0NkCaXcGCArmb_E3dFs8c9gqlnzZPSCm7lxHg3Ve4V1YfDoilVkey9KFKNWVhQ=w740)
What are those lines of powder on the side? 🤔
scratch marks from an oldcat. i had the same idea running through my head lol
Dang thanks for the clarification.... now i realize it does feel like some special powder
But hey this is the wildcat Deskmat haha
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Fri, 19 June 2020, 06:11:09
Hey oldcat, just wanted to ask if this design comes with a USB-C daughterboard? I just saw the Polaris having an issue with the usb port due to its gasket mount design (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/h7gofy/polaris_owners_usb_port_stress/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/h7gofy/polaris_owners_usb_port_stress/)),
will this be an issue too or not?
[Edited for readability.]
Oldcat, I saw this post and your immediate reply a few posts below that. Your reply was that you have a different design to the Polaris, and you are awaiting prototypes to confirm there isn't a similar issue.
I looked for a follow-up reply about this after you received prototypes. However, this thread is now 19 pages long, so it's a bit hard to search. (Please point out the obvious way of searching if I'm missing it.)
Did you ever revisit this and test it again?
Post by: Hangos on Fri, 19 June 2020, 08:49:01
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 19 June 2020, 09:07:14
Hey oldcat, just wanted to ask if this design comes with a USB-C daughterboard? I just saw the Polaris having an issue with the usb port due to its gasket mount design (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/h7gofy/polaris_owners_usb_port_stress/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/h7gofy/polaris_owners_usb_port_stress/)),
will this be an issue too or not?
[Edited for readability.]
Oldcat, I saw this post and your immediate reply a few posts below that. Your reply was that you have a different design to the Polaris, and you are awaiting prototypes to confirm there isn't a similar issue.
I looked for a follow-up reply about this after you received prototypes. However, this thread is now 19 pages long, so it's a bit hard to search. (Please point out the obvious way of searching if I'm missing it.)
Did you ever revisit this and test it again?
It’s been tested and there is no such issue as shown on Polaris (which itself isn’t really a serious issue I believe unless you smash the keys, but be assured it does not appear at all with thinkv2). I will show how much the gaskets will cover soon, issue with Polaris isn’t really the gaskets, but lack of gaskets on the sides and towards the edges I would surmise
Post by: Roddin on Fri, 19 June 2020, 09:15:48
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Fri, 19 June 2020, 09:44:52
Thanks for the answer Oldcat. Your reasoning seems sound to me as an outsider.
As long as it’s been considered, I’m happy!
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Post by: oldcat on Fri, 19 June 2020, 15:41:39
[Not quoting again, nested quoting gets a bit bulky.]
Thanks for the answer Oldcat. Your reasoning seems sound to me as an outsider.
As long as it’s been considered, I’m happy!
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Thanks! As it will be publicly tested via one or more live streams, I am sure it will be discussed and tested during the stream given this appears to be an important issue for gasket mount boards.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 19 June 2020, 22:58:03
For the regular colorways, will do some simple math, perhaps combine some "duplicated colorways" (e.g., black-pink and pink-black) into one. Will share the results sometime next week.
Here are some renders for the updated Unit-01 colorway:
(https://i.imgur.com/UX1HjNd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/q0Mshh5.jpg)
Post by: jo h n on Fri, 19 June 2020, 23:58:03
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Sat, 20 June 2020, 01:50:46
Post by: bigern302 on Sat, 20 June 2020, 01:56:26
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 20 June 2020, 02:31:10
No ISO layout? :D
I would never forget about our ISO bros:
(https://i.imgur.com/COtWC5N.png)
Post by: Ztox on Sat, 20 June 2020, 08:19:16
Received some good feedback regarding the Unit-01, and I think purple top - black bottom - green badge will make a better sense, since it will be more compatible with other sets, such as Laser, 2600, and more.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UX1HjNd.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/q0Mshh5.jpg)
Yea this is the one! So, so nice. :D
Post by: Hangos on Sat, 20 June 2020, 09:52:35
No ISO layout? :D
I would never forget about our ISO bros:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/COtWC5N.png)
What a god, please take my money :p
Post by: Nles on Sat, 20 June 2020, 10:24:50
Received some good feedback regarding the Unit-01, and I think purple top - black bottom - green badge will make a better sense, since it will be more compatible with other sets, such as Laser, 2600, and more.
For the regular colorways, will do some simple math, perhaps combine some "duplicated colorways" (e.g., black-pink and pink-black) into one. Will share the results sometime next week.
Here are some renders for the updated Unit-01 colorway:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UX1HjNd.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/q0Mshh5.jpg)
Waiting for the July to come :)
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 20 June 2020, 22:53:07
Received some good feedback regarding the Unit-01, and I think purple top - black bottom - green badge will make a better sense, since it will be more compatible with other sets, such as Laser, 2600, and more.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UX1HjNd.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/q0Mshh5.jpg)
Yea this is the one! So, so nice. :D
This purple top + black bottom should be a shoo-in!
Post by: KMPLSV on Sat, 20 June 2020, 22:59:29
Weeeeeeeeeeeee! So it's confirmed as a color option?Received some good feedback regarding the Unit-01, and I think purple top - black bottom - green badge will make a better sense, since it will be more compatible with other sets, such as Laser, 2600, and more.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UX1HjNd.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/q0Mshh5.jpg)
Yea this is the one! So, so nice. :D
This purple top + black bottom should be a shoo-in!
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Post by: lz2019 on Sun, 21 June 2020, 00:39:37
appreciate if you could help out with my color confusions, especially after the CyberVoyager blue render vs. sample discussion,
1. Is the Think6.5 v2.0 Blue going to be same as Think6.5 v1.0 blue?
or Space65 CyberVoyager earlier darker blue or newer grayish blue?
The 3 all look different. If it's going to be different from any of the 3, can you find a real sample before GB?
2. Is the Think6.5 v2.0 Red going to be same as Space65 CyberVoyager Red?
If not, can you find a real sample before GB?
Somehow the renders in the recent color poll all feel a bit grayish to my eye, can't imagine as very real.
It'll be really great if there can be real samples of the colors and confirmed before GB, that makes it simple and easy going.
Thanks a lot!
Post by: Ztox on Sun, 21 June 2020, 04:33:53
Received some good feedback regarding the Unit-01, and I think purple top - black bottom - green badge will make a better sense, since it will be more compatible with other sets, such as Laser, 2600, and more.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UX1HjNd.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/q0Mshh5.jpg)
Yea this is the one! So, so nice. :D
This purple top + black bottom should be a shoo-in!
As is me buying one, if that's the case :thumb:
Post by: Oddstag on Sun, 21 June 2020, 08:44:43
Received some good feedback regarding the Unit-01, and I think purple top - black bottom - green badge will make a better sense, since it will be more compatible with other sets, such as Laser, 2600, and more.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/UX1HjNd.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/q0Mshh5.jpg)
Yea this is the one! So, so nice. :D
This purple top + black bottom should be a shoo-in!
Yup, this is it. We're set here. I'll take one with a corner badge.
Post by: AvoidingYou on Sun, 21 June 2020, 14:49:08
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Sun, 21 June 2020, 16:26:07
Anything that is going into GB now?
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Post by: Ztox on Sun, 21 June 2020, 16:41:55
What is the caps set on the purple / black colorway rendering? I saw a few other sets being mentioned that should fit.
Anything that is going into GB now?
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GMK Unit-01 :)
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Sun, 21 June 2020, 16:47:28
I saw that earlier, and foolishly assumed it’s all sold out. I checked the IC again, looks like it’s not yet in GB. Awesome, thanks!What is the caps set on the purple / black colorway rendering? I saw a few other sets being mentioned that should fit.
Anything that is going into GB now?
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GMK Unit-01 :)
On the other hand, this may be a bit too loud for me, maybe I’ll just tone down the purple with WoB caps. Or go for gray board with Red Samurai caps.
...decisions!
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Post by: SxM Designs on Sun, 21 June 2020, 16:51:20
Any chance of getting a render for Sumi and deep navy with whatever suitable board color you want?
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 21 June 2020, 18:30:52
Mr. Oldcat, I beseech thee. Please make a polycarb version and I will throw all my money at you
Hey bro, polycarb prototype pics were shared earlier, you probably missed it :)
(https://i.imgur.com/6LDhqOc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8H05bwJ.jpg)
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 21 June 2020, 18:32:21
Old cat,
Any chance of getting a render for Sumi and deep navy with whatever suitable board color you want?
Hey bro, for Sumi - since I do not have the correct keycap sublegends model - would the colorway without Japanese sublegends be ok?
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 21 June 2020, 21:48:53
What is the caps set on the purple / black colorway rendering? I saw a few other sets being mentioned that should fit.
Anything that is going into GB now?
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GMK Unit-01 :)
What is the caps set on the purple / black colorway rendering? I saw a few other sets being mentioned that should fit.
Anything that is going into GB now?
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Yep, GMK Unit-01, with the caveat that this is improperly done due to lack of Japanese sub-legends (I don't have those keycap models).
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Sun, 21 June 2020, 22:03:54
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Post by: scatman on Mon, 22 June 2020, 05:20:43
Post by: SxM Designs on Mon, 22 June 2020, 05:23:40
Old cat,
Any chance of getting a render for Sumi and deep navy with whatever suitable board color you want?
Hey bro, for Sumi - since I do not have the correct keycap sublegends model - would the colorway without Japanese sublegends be ok?
Yes that would be fine. Please choose what color scheme for the board would go the best. I have decision to make . Haha and thanks!
Post by: th1lo on Mon, 22 June 2020, 06:49:45
I'm in! Gray-Blue would fit quite well with the GMK Dolche Mist
Post by: Slayer77 on Mon, 22 June 2020, 06:51:50
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Post by: chowder266 on Mon, 22 June 2020, 14:43:00
Old cat,
Any chance of getting a render for Sumi and deep navy with whatever suitable board color you want?
Hey bro, for Sumi - since I do not have the correct keycap sublegends model - would the colorway without Japanese sublegends be ok?
Could you do one with bushido as well :)
Post by: myflowsocold on Mon, 22 June 2020, 15:24:34
Anyone know where I can pick up a V1 pcb (either solderable or hotswap) if V2 will not be compatible?
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 22 June 2020, 15:33:40
I would never forget about our ISO bros:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/COtWC5N.png)
It isn't shown in the image, so is a 6u spacebar configuration supported? From that layout it looks like 1.5–1–1.5–6–1.25–1.25 would be possible if there was a switch hole for the 6u position (either centered stem or off-centered stem).
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 22 June 2020, 19:11:01
Definitely in for the V2 regardless, but just wanted to see if this PCB would be compatible with the V1? I have a hotswap V1 and one of the keys died :/
Anyone know where I can pick up a V1 pcb (either solderable or hotswap) if V2 will not be compatible?
Hey bro! I will run an IC for V1 PCB in discord or here and go from there (and maybe also other Graystudio board PCBs). This new PCB will unfortunately not be compatible with the V1 version.
Post by: toxic_munkii on Mon, 22 June 2020, 20:23:50
Post by: Kalabalik on Mon, 22 June 2020, 23:37:25
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 23 June 2020, 02:31:48
So not even the simple all black and all white colorways are guaranteed? It's all up to the almighty poll? sweats nervously
All white and all black will for sure be offered
The poll results public spreadsheet was released in discord. I will collate the results and combine some colorways next few days and share
Post by: Ptaty on Tue, 23 June 2020, 07:25:45
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 23 June 2020, 13:26:21
White top, pink bottom gang <3
This batch of pink prototype:
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Post by: SxM Designs on Tue, 23 June 2020, 14:44:30
Post by: BloodyMarvel on Tue, 23 June 2020, 19:49:32
Post by: Ptaty on Tue, 23 June 2020, 19:54:58
White top, pink bottom gang <3
This batch of pink prototype:
(Attachment Link)
That pink looks great!!
Post by: manaorme on Tue, 23 June 2020, 22:00:24
White top, pink bottom gang <3
This batch of pink prototype:
(Attachment Link)
Light strips which is placed above/under the 2u badge are both blocked?
Is it possible to led glow in both light strips?
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 23 June 2020, 23:19:01
White top, pink bottom gang <3
This batch of pink prototype:
(Attachment Link)
Light strips which is placed above/under the 2u badge are both blocked?
Is it possible to led glow in both light strips?
When that prototype was made, we were thinking about using the same approach as V1 (some micro laser holes for the light strip). But I am getting a new batch of prototypes made with the top strip cut out with a silicon diffuser under it (bottom strip will not). Those will be e-white and waiting to be picked up now. Should come out next few days and ready to be shipped to me and streamers.
Post by: progressivelyghetto on Tue, 23 June 2020, 23:37:32
Definitely in for the V2 regardless, but just wanted to see if this PCB would be compatible with the V1? I have a hotswap V1 and one of the keys died :/
Anyone know where I can pick up a V1 pcb (either solderable or hotswap) if V2 will not be compatible?
Hey bro! I will run an IC for V1 PCB in discord or here and go from there (and maybe also other Graystudio board PCBs). This new PCB will unfortunately not be compatible with the V1 version.
Omg yes please run an IC for the hotswap pcbs :D love my soldered v1 but want that flexibility
Post by: Katsurio on Wed, 24 June 2020, 08:45:03
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Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 24 June 2020, 20:27:52
This is one of the best IC posts ever, everyone should learn from this IC about how to hear from community.
+1
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Thu, 25 June 2020, 00:37:22
+1This is one of the best IC posts ever, everyone should learn from this IC about how to hear from community.
+1
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 25 June 2020, 00:57:39
Any chance that the case colours will be finalised soonish? There are so many keycaps that look good on specific case colours out now or coming up so I would like to buy one or two with my keeb colour in mind.
Yes! The poll is pretty much done and I was just waiting to call Potter about the color offerings.
This will be finalized very soon. Also I will be sharing more details of the gasket designs in detailed views in various angles
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 25 June 2020, 11:11:04
(https://i.imgur.com/wY1c8jB.jpg)
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Post by: Slayer77 on Thu, 25 June 2020, 11:14:25
Here are some details of the gaskets and the plate (only 1u shown here):Looks good!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wY1c8jB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3Qc1wXW.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bDlD7G7.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Vyk5Dw2.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MVBufyA.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jSwDL3S.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DArdxdx.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cVwNF1t.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/feLiwB7.jpg)
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Post by: oldcat on Thu, 25 June 2020, 22:59:45
This is one of the best IC posts ever, everyone should learn from this IC about how to hear from community.
+1
This is one of the best IC posts ever, everyone should learn from this IC about how to hear from community.
+1This is one of the best IC posts ever, everyone should learn from this IC about how to hear from community.
+1
Thanks folks! This has progressed really well.
Post by: productkun on Fri, 26 June 2020, 04:58:34
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Post by: oldcat on Fri, 26 June 2020, 17:31:08
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Post by: mchanneh on Fri, 26 June 2020, 17:34:01
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Post by: Clay333 on Fri, 26 June 2020, 19:14:05
Post by: Ultimatum on Fri, 26 June 2020, 19:35:04
White, simply because it will blend in more and be less visible through the polycarbonate.+1
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 26 June 2020, 20:50:07
Post by: CoolMike on Fri, 26 June 2020, 20:59:22
Gray studio always bringing their best.
Post by: Hangos on Sat, 27 June 2020, 03:48:29
Post by: Krzew on Sat, 27 June 2020, 05:50:09
Post by: brew on Sat, 27 June 2020, 10:07:44
Side note: Thoughts on a sandblasted brass plate w/ sandblasted brass 2U badge?
A La, @_Minterly 's auction piece: https://twitter.com/_Minterly/status/1276633356726198272?s=20
Maybe as part of a separate GB or the Hot Swap GB since we're so late in the game here? (I'm getting way ahead of myself... excited!)
Post by: dd0ubleu on Sat, 27 June 2020, 12:08:45
Post by: dd0ubleu on Sat, 27 June 2020, 12:11:19
Post by: Cresc3nt on Sat, 27 June 2020, 14:32:40
Post by: TofuOrganic on Sat, 27 June 2020, 22:28:22
Side note: Thoughts on a sandblasted brass plate w/ sandblasted brass 2U badge?
+1 for brass badge if possible :)
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Post by: fabijolo on Sun, 28 June 2020, 00:08:44
Post by: emerge on Sun, 28 June 2020, 01:06:35
+1
Side note: Thoughts on a sandblasted brass plate w/ sandblasted brass 2U badge?
+1 for brass badge if possible :)
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Post by: lamonayon on Sun, 28 June 2020, 02:17:37
"Think6.5v2 by @oldcat87. Coming soon on Graystudio.club in July.
Available colorways will be unveiled in the next few days. Stay tuned!"
Post by: SirTimmyTimbit on Sun, 28 June 2020, 02:32:02
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 28 June 2020, 17:25:44
(https://i.imgur.com/qTjbteJ.jpg)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Sun, 28 June 2020, 17:50:50
New PCB color, thoughts?I don’t dislike it, but I’d definitely prefer something darker.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/qTjbteJ.jpg)
Post by: dRnRcRr on Sun, 28 June 2020, 19:04:54
Post by: Oabnuj on Sun, 28 June 2020, 22:20:49
Post by: sicayou on Sun, 28 June 2020, 22:47:53
Side note: Thoughts on a sandblasted brass plate w/ sandblasted brass 2U badge?
+1 for brass badge if possible :)
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A brass badge would be an instant buy for me. I'd be willing to pay extra for it as well.
Post by: fabijolo on Mon, 29 June 2020, 00:07:40
Kinda reminds me of Ramas PCBs, but that ain't a bad thing at all ;D
Post by: OsoKekkou on Mon, 29 June 2020, 02:55:40
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Post by: TofuOrganic on Mon, 29 June 2020, 03:24:37
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Post by: Kalabalik on Mon, 29 June 2020, 18:28:50
I would also like to express my interest (desperate want) for a brass 2u badge.
Post by: asciisii on Mon, 29 June 2020, 21:39:56
Post by: bluuz on Tue, 30 June 2020, 01:23:13
Post by: SxM Designs on Tue, 30 June 2020, 02:37:45
I wonder if the importer could pay import taxes on the 'cost' of the product.. whereas an individual would pay import taxes on the retail price of the product?
Additionally, anything I pay in USD also attracts a phat fee from my bank + a ****ty exchange rate..
I guess someone like Candykeys or Mykeyboard would do a single "big" transfer through a service like xe.com for a negotiated exchange rate and non-existent fees..
Anyway, I don't think that StateSheriff or myself are trying to scrounge to save a few nickels... but if
* there are significant savings to be made
* it doesn't generate a lot of extra effort for you
* you have enough EU interest to justify the use of an EU proxy
Oldcat, any updates on this? I tried to search but I could not find any.
I'm pretty sure it would be beneficial for us..especially for those that are hoping to pick up multiple KBs in the GB..
On a personal note, I'd prefer that my money ended up with "you"(those making think6.5v2 happen) or at least with the aforementioned EU proxies that are contributing to the community here.. rather than giving it away as import taxes..
Good points, I will check with a vendor I know again and see what the fees/costs will be, though I am pretty sure the importer's tax will be based on how much the units are sold to him/her but I can be wrong.
If it makes financial sense for the buyers with the roughly identical amount received by Potter (as the GB runner), I'd be happy to talk to him to do it through that route. This will likely mean the sale price will be $400+ for EU, my guess.
For US buyers I think it always makes sense to buy directly from a maker, because it is very unlikely you get hit with any importer tax (which I have never been).
Post by: BloodyMarvel on Tue, 30 June 2020, 03:40:09
I wonder if the importer could pay import taxes on the 'cost' of the product.. whereas an individual would pay import taxes on the retail price of the product?
They do, that's exactly how it works. The importer pays all duties and fees, and adds it to the price of the product. Thereby transferring those costs to the customer. In addition, VAT is added to the price.
Additionally, anything I pay in USD also attracts a phat fee from my bank + a ****ty exchange rate..
I guess someone like Candykeys or Mykeyboard would do a single "big" transfer through a service like xe.com for a negotiated exchange rate and non-existent fees..
Importers need to pay a fee as well (though it's probably lower because of the high amount). That exchange rate is calculated into the final price of the product by the reseller.
Anyway, I don't think that StateSheriff or myself are trying to scrounge to save a few nickels... but if
* there are significant savings to be made
* it doesn't generate a lot of extra effort for you
* you have enough EU interest to justify the use of an EU proxy
I'm pretty sure it would be beneficial for us..especially for those that are hoping to pick up multiple KBs in the GB..
A EU proxy does make things easier for buyers, as they don't have to deal with creditcards, and can pay in their local currency.
On a personal note, I'd prefer that my money ended up with "you"(those making think6.5v2 happen) or at least with the aforementioned EU proxies that are contributing to the community here.. rather than giving it away as import taxes..
Only two things are inevitable. Death and taxes. The government will always claim their share, no matter what avenue you choose.
Post by: richard912 on Tue, 30 June 2020, 19:37:02
Post by: Axariel on Tue, 30 June 2020, 21:06:22
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 01 July 2020, 00:27:49
Single tone: e-white, black, PC;
dual-tone: white-black, white-pink, gray-black, purple-black, pink-black, blue-black, red-black.
Schrodinger is being considered.
Other colors aren't going to be offered unless there are very strong last-minute requests...
Post by: Exanova on Wed, 01 July 2020, 00:29:50
Confirmed colors:
Single tone: e-white, black, PC; dual-tone: white-black, white-pink, gray-black, purple-black, pink-black, blue-black.
Schrodinger is being considered.
Other colors aren't going to be offered unless there are very strong last-minute requests...
Some sort of red :)
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 01 July 2020, 00:36:08
Confirmed colors:
Single tone: e-white, black, PC; dual-tone: white-black, white-pink, gray-black, purple-black, pink-black, blue-black.
Schrodinger is being considered.
Other colors aren't going to be offered unless there are very strong last-minute requests...
Some sort of red :)
sorry I missed red.
Post by: Axariel on Wed, 01 July 2020, 00:37:07
Confirmed colors:
Single tone: e-white, black, PC; dual-tone: white-black, white-pink, gray-black, purple-black, pink-black, blue-black.
Schrodinger is being considered.
Other colors aren't going to be offered unless there are very strong last-minute requests...
If you add it, I would be strongly swayed towards buying two, but I am pretty happy with purple-black as is. :thumb:
Post by: Kalabalik on Wed, 01 July 2020, 00:55:12
Confirmed colors:Looks good! What about badge colors? Will there be a poll for that too?
Single tone: e-white, black, PC;
dual-tone: white-black, white-pink, gray-black, purple-black, pink-black, blue-black, red-black.
Schrodinger is being considered.
Other colors aren't going to be offered unless there are very strong last-minute requests...
Post by: Ooga Booga on Wed, 01 July 2020, 02:00:05
Post by: SxM Designs on Wed, 01 July 2020, 02:25:01
Confirmed colors:
Single tone: e-white, black, PC;
dual-tone: white-black, white-pink, gray-black, purple-black, pink-black, blue-black, red-black.
Schrodinger is being considered.
Other colors aren't going to be offered unless there are very strong last-minute requests...
I wanted some white -red or black -red for GMK SUMI. :(
Anyways what about badge color options? Can we choose that ? Maybe we can get red badges?
Post by: prizeS on Wed, 01 July 2020, 03:36:48
Is there an option to mix match with a polycarb bottom?
afaik no, you'll have to grab two boards and mix and match yourself i think.
Post by: El_Jackador on Wed, 01 July 2020, 04:01:59
Post by: lz2019 on Wed, 01 July 2020, 04:13:15
Will pictures of the final colours be available before the GB start?
if you mean color sample blocks, I second you,
I have the exactly same question, especially hope to see how dark the red will be.
Post by: SauceySquid on Wed, 01 July 2020, 09:25:37
Post by: titanium on Wed, 01 July 2020, 09:27:16
Post by: Exanova on Wed, 01 July 2020, 13:58:58
Would the red be the same as the sapce65 red above?
Post by: Slayer77 on Wed, 01 July 2020, 16:51:33
Confirmed colors:Can black-white be considered please?
Single tone: e-white, black, PC;
dual-tone: white-black, white-pink, gray-black, purple-black, pink-black, blue-black, red-black.
Schrodinger is being considered.
Other colors aren't going to be offered unless there are very strong last-minute requests...
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Post by: SekaiJutsu on Thu, 02 July 2020, 03:23:46
Post by: ninjacore on Thu, 02 July 2020, 09:34:44
Post by: ghstgrl on Thu, 02 July 2020, 10:12:04
Will the fr4 plate only be offered in black? Saw the protos on the demostudio01 instagram. Was considering a PC top-pink base combo but it'd look bad if the plate was black :thinking:. Any chance we can see the PC top - color base combo either in stream (are any streamers even getting 2 though) or on instagram before they get sent out to streamers?
Post by: Convergence on Thu, 02 July 2020, 10:40:32
Post by: GreatScawt on Thu, 02 July 2020, 11:46:50
Post by: prizeS on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:10:41
Super excited but bummed that the only option for a pink top is pink-black :( . Gonna have to sit and think about that since I wanted all pink. I would have gone for a pink top choice but I don't like the black base.
Will the fr4 plate only be offered in black? Saw the protos on the demostudio01 instagram. Was considering a PC top-pink base combo but it'd look bad if the plate was black :thinking:. Any chance we can see the PC top - color base combo either in stream (are any streamers even getting 2 though) or on instagram before they get sent out to streamers?
judging off previous posts it seems like most people liked the white plate and gaskets, including me. would be surprised if it didn't come white.
Post by: ghstgrl on Thu, 02 July 2020, 15:30:33
Super excited but bummed that the only option for a pink top is pink-black :( . Gonna have to sit and think about that since I wanted all pink. I would have gone for a pink top choice but I don't like the black base.
Will the fr4 plate only be offered in black? Saw the protos on the demostudio01 instagram. Was considering a PC top-pink base combo but it'd look bad if the plate was black :thinking:. Any chance we can see the PC top - color base combo either in stream (are any streamers even getting 2 though) or on instagram before they get sent out to streamers?
judging off previous posts it seems like most people liked the white plate and gaskets, including me. would be surprised if it didn't come white.
Yeah hopefully. I think the white plate would look better with PC as well. I think the white would look great with all the cases as well, not that you'd see the plate much in the alu cases.
Just disappointed that there isn't full pink really lol. They have to make the pink top for pink-black and pink base for white-pink so why not offer full pink as well :/ If it wasn't too much trouble I hope they change their mind and offer a solid pink option for sale.
Post by: alper_maestro on Thu, 02 July 2020, 16:13:55
Will there be a hot-swap pcb or has this not been decided yet? Could not find this on the 1st page.
Post by: gunth on Thu, 02 July 2020, 16:15:44
So many reactions :Dno hotswap
Will there be a hot-swap pcb or has this not been decided yet? Could not find this on the 1st page.
Post by: newbie on Thu, 02 July 2020, 16:16:35
Super excited but bummed that the only option for a pink top is pink-black :( . Gonna have to sit and think about that since I wanted all pink. I would have gone for a pink top choice but I don't like the black base.
Will the fr4 plate only be offered in black? Saw the protos on the demostudio01 instagram. Was considering a PC top-pink base combo but it'd look bad if the plate was black :thinking:. Any chance we can see the PC top - color base combo either in stream (are any streamers even getting 2 though) or on instagram before they get sent out to streamers?
judging off previous posts it seems like most people liked the white plate and gaskets, including me. would be surprised if it didn't come white.
Yeah hopefully. I think the white plate would look better with PC as well. I think the white would look great with all the cases as well, not that you'd see the plate much in the alu cases.
Just disappointed that there isn't full pink really lol. They have to make the pink top for pink-black and pink base for white-pink so why not offer full pink as well :/ If it wasn't too much trouble I hope they change their mind and offer a solid pink option for sale.
Same, was really looking forward to full pink or mecha themed. Something about the pink-black just doesn't click with me
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Thu, 02 July 2020, 17:03:20
Post by: wolfez4444 on Thu, 02 July 2020, 17:11:19
Post by: kanix on Thu, 02 July 2020, 17:15:19
Post by: kitty on Thu, 02 July 2020, 20:26:11
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 02 July 2020, 21:24:33
(Attachment Link)
Would the red be the same as the sapce65 red above?
Will share pictures of the red prototype soon. It will be like this pictured below I believe.
Pink and gray will also be like the pictured one. But the blue will be a different one than pictured, something grayish-blue - which will also be shared soon.
(https://i.imgur.com/2n1Hhxr.jpg)
Post by: ghstgrl on Thu, 02 July 2020, 21:31:41
Yeah I hope they will reconsider and offer a full pink option >_<. If not I might have to reconsider if my 2nd options are.
Post by: JCraftCables on Fri, 03 July 2020, 01:46:35
Post by: guybrush on Fri, 03 July 2020, 01:54:02
Post by: chowbabyloving on Fri, 03 July 2020, 03:38:39
Definitely up for this group buy, but I can't decide 1U or 2U badge >.<
I went with 2u because of the lightbar
Post by: Hangos on Fri, 03 July 2020, 11:41:35
(Attachment Link)
Would the red be the same as the sapce65 red above?
Will share pictures of the red prototype soon. It will be like this pictured below I believe.
Pink and gray will also be like the pictured one. But the blue will be a different one than pictured, something grayish-blue - which will also be shared soon.
Looking very goodShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/2n1Hhxr.jpg)
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 03 July 2020, 11:57:44
(https://i.imgur.com/RVCuwsK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/F4ID0Mk.jpg)
Post by: dereknt on Fri, 03 July 2020, 12:36:53
Post by: SxM Designs on Fri, 03 July 2020, 12:46:13
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 03 July 2020, 12:51:56
Could you pleaase elaborate on the badge color options. I am super confused.
For single tone boards: badge and weight will be the same color as the case color
For dual-tone boards: the badge and weight will have contrast colors from the case. For example, white top, pink bottom will have pink badge and white weight
PC boards will have white badge and white weight.
Post by: guybrush on Fri, 03 July 2020, 12:59:51
Post by: SxM Designs on Fri, 03 July 2020, 13:40:45
Could you pleaase elaborate on the badge color options. I am super confused.
For single tone boards: badge and weight will be the same color as the case color
For dual-tone boards: the badge and weight will have contrast colors from the case. For example, white top, pink bottom will have pink badge and white weight
PC boards will have white badge and white weight.
So the purple black would have a black badge? I was expecting a green one :(
Post by: pandaemic on Fri, 03 July 2020, 18:54:19
Could you pleaase elaborate on the badge color options. I am super confused.
For single tone boards: badge and weight will be the same color as the case color
For dual-tone boards: the badge and weight will have contrast colors from the case. For example, white top, pink bottom will have pink badge and white weight
PC boards will have white badge and white weight.
So the purple black would have a black badge? I was expecting a green one :(
Curious about this one as well, will we be able to go with the green badge like in the renders?
Also, any ETA as to when the GB should be live?
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 03 July 2020, 23:06:12
Could you pleaase elaborate on the badge color options. I am super confused.
For single tone boards: badge and weight will be the same color as the case color
For dual-tone boards: the badge and weight will have contrast colors from the case. For example, white top, pink bottom will have pink badge and white weight
PC boards will have white badge and white weight.
So the purple black would have a black badge? I was expecting a green one :(
Curious about this one as well, will we be able to go with the green badge like in the renders?
Also, any ETA as to when the GB should be live?
I would hope so, but at this time I am trying to make simple so there is a chance this GB can be shipped in 2020. Two-tone will make it a lot simpler (than 3-tone). I will check if a green badge can be made after all.
GB will be live in 2 weeks or so, as long as prototype shipping to streamers doesn't take an excessive amount of time.
Post by: pandaemic on Fri, 03 July 2020, 23:07:45
Could you pleaase elaborate on the badge color options. I am super confused.
For single tone boards: badge and weight will be the same color as the case color
For dual-tone boards: the badge and weight will have contrast colors from the case. For example, white top, pink bottom will have pink badge and white weight
PC boards will have white badge and white weight.
So the purple black would have a black badge? I was expecting a green one :(
Curious about this one as well, will we be able to go with the green badge like in the renders?
Also, any ETA as to when the GB should be live?
I would hope so, but at this time I am trying to make simple so there is a chance this GB can be shipped in 2020. Two-tone will make it a lot simpler (than 3-tone). I will check if a green badge can be made after all.
GB will be live in 2 weeks or so, as long as prototype shipping to streamers doesn't take an excessive amount of time.
Any insight on which streamers to look out for? I'd love to see one getting built.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 03 July 2020, 23:15:28
Could you pleaase elaborate on the badge color options. I am super confused.
For single tone boards: badge and weight will be the same color as the case color
For dual-tone boards: the badge and weight will have contrast colors from the case. For example, white top, pink bottom will have pink badge and white weight
PC boards will have white badge and white weight.
So the purple black would have a black badge? I was expecting a green one :(
Curious about this one as well, will we be able to go with the green badge like in the renders?
Also, any ETA as to when the GB should be live?
I would hope so, but at this time I am trying to make simple so there is a chance this GB can be shipped in 2020. Two-tone will make it a lot simpler (than 3-tone). I will check if a green badge can be made after all.
GB will be live in 2 weeks or so, as long as prototype shipping to streamers doesn't take an excessive amount of time.
Any insight on which streamers to look out for? I'd love to see one getting built.
As I talked to Potter, I am pretty much going to send out all the prototypes I planned to keep and build for myself, so there will be a few streamers, apart from the originally planned builds by Alex.
So Alex will receive the proto(s) directly from Potter first and build it on the day the GB goes live.
And then I will receive a couple of prototypes to send to US streamers. I have been talking to Nathan, Tiny, Apiary, and others.
Post by: ZongZiWang on Fri, 03 July 2020, 23:57:02
Could you pleaase elaborate on the badge color options. I am super confused.
For single tone boards: badge and weight will be the same color as the case color
For dual-tone boards: the badge and weight will have contrast colors from the case. For example, white top, pink bottom will have pink badge and white weight
PC boards will have white badge and white weight.
For dual-tone boards, can we choose badge color same as the top instead of bottom? e.g. white top black bottom with white badge?
Post by: Domantas on Sat, 04 July 2020, 01:00:54
Post by: lamonayon on Sat, 04 July 2020, 01:39:44
As I talked to Potter, I am pretty much going to send out all the prototypes I planned to keep and build for myself, so there will be a few streamers, apart from the originally planned builds by Alex.
So Alex will receive the proto(s) directly from Potter first and build it on the day the GB goes live.
And then I will receive a couple of prototypes to send to US streamers. I have been talking to Nathan, Tiny, Apiary, and others.
Happy to know that there will be more streamers! Will they all build before the GB time-frame ends?
Btw - what's gonna be left for you @oldcat?
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 04 July 2020, 15:33:06
(https://i.imgur.com/CvF9ah8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eNRtDhU.jpg)
Post by: Kara on Sat, 04 July 2020, 15:52:44
Post by: Eagle Bearer on Sat, 04 July 2020, 20:00:22
Post by: musicgecko on Sat, 04 July 2020, 22:49:09
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 04 July 2020, 23:36:45
why aren't streamers building it before gb starts..?
There will be a few streams at various time points, I guess they might start before GB starts, it really depends on how fast DHL can deliver. However, seeing the crazy demand of Primus, if there are too many orders, we might need to end GB early though, so some streams may actually happen after the GB period is over ...
I am planning to move to Texas soon so hopefully, we get the GB done sooner than later, and hope to finish production and ship them in 2020!
Post by: Kalabalik on Sat, 04 July 2020, 23:45:55
if there are too many orders, we might need to end GB early
I was under the impression that this was an unlimited group buy. Is that not the case?
Post by: dRnRcRr on Sat, 04 July 2020, 23:46:08
Post by: fabijolo on Sun, 05 July 2020, 00:03:08
What he meant is that the GB, will, for example, be running, let's just say 1 week instead of 2.
:D
if there are too many orders, we might need to end GB early
I was under the impression that this was an unlimited group buy. Is that not the case?
Post by: AromRod on Sun, 05 July 2020, 02:00:05
Post by: paulgali on Sun, 05 July 2020, 03:35:21
Post by: Mukdip on Sun, 05 July 2020, 08:08:11
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 05 July 2020, 13:18:37
1U Single Tone:
(https://i.imgur.com/wrpLdgr.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/FKgQdpC.png)
1U Dual Tone:
(https://i.imgur.com/ySQFn9B.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PxEaUbK.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/XNDsR98.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZCikB4C.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/OlQpuT4.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/MK7UqFb.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/oXNTfYn.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/zcGarv8.png)
2U Single Tone:
(https://i.imgur.com/nXqcngW.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/5WwvaL3.png)
2U Dual Tone:
(https://i.imgur.com/eD9J4uy.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/3zncbOK.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/QkZzagL.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Xax7Lma.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/k2lVRLY.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/QiSZFoz.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/kc2WJOn.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mibTa1f.png)
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 05 July 2020, 13:33:40
2U:
(https://i.imgur.com/xDi4UNL.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/5FEloCE.png)
1U:
(https://i.imgur.com/3NTnd68.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/9ihpaEw.png)
Post by: El_Jackador on Sun, 05 July 2020, 14:43:43
Post by: x1angel on Sun, 05 July 2020, 14:46:05
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Post by: SxM Designs on Sun, 05 July 2020, 15:59:59
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 05 July 2020, 19:02:19
Very nice renders. Just sad that there is no green badge for the purple version.
While there is no default green badge - for the GB logistics (dual tone is simpler than 3 colors), I am trying my best to make green badge possible as an optional item.
Post by: KeebOnMe on Sun, 05 July 2020, 19:17:52
Post by: jayiskuhl on Sun, 05 July 2020, 21:16:44
I want to get a different color for this if possible.
Post by: alwaysbless on Sun, 05 July 2020, 21:35:52
Post by: Eagle Bearer on Sun, 05 July 2020, 22:31:23
All Color Options for Aluminum (PC will be offered):
1U Single Tone:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/wrpLdgr.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FKgQdpC.png)
1U Dual Tone:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ySQFn9B.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PxEaUbK.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/XNDsR98.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZCikB4C.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/OlQpuT4.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MK7UqFb.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oXNTfYn.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zcGarv8.png)
2U Single Tone:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nXqcngW.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5WwvaL3.png)
2U Dual Tone:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eD9J4uy.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3zncbOK.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QkZzagL.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Xax7Lma.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/k2lVRLY.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QiSZFoz.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kc2WJOn.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mibTa1f.png)
Love the colors! I find myself loving the white-grey (or is it blue?) color more than the red-black or purple-black. Am I correct in assuming that the color that looks like grey but not really is the blue you are talking about? Is there any chance of the red top getting paired with the bottom blue grey color? Black seems too dark to pair with the red. I'd like it more with a softer color.
But nonetheless, it looks good! ^-^
Post by: cadrev on Sun, 05 July 2020, 22:57:13
Could you pleaase elaborate on the badge color options. I am super confused.
For single tone boards: badge and weight will be the same color as the case color
For dual-tone boards: the badge and weight will have contrast colors from the case. For example, white top, pink bottom will have pink badge and white weight
PC boards will have white badge and white weight.
Will there be option for an extra "gold" badge just like the previous Think?
Post by: fabijolo on Sun, 05 July 2020, 23:58:24
Could you pleaase elaborate on the badge color options. I am super confused.
For single tone boards: badge and weight will be the same color as the case color
For dual-tone boards: the badge and weight will have contrast colors from the case. For example, white top, pink bottom will have pink badge and white weight
PC boards will have white badge and white weight.
Will there be option for an extra "gold" badge just like the previous Think?
Post by: neutralstate on Mon, 06 July 2020, 00:57:48
Post by: fabijolo on Mon, 06 July 2020, 02:01:23
Would there be any chance on making the plate files publicly available afterwards, so people can cut their own?
Thanks in advance Mr Oldcat, I really appreciate your work a lot :thumb:
Post by: oouf on Mon, 06 July 2020, 02:04:38
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 06 July 2020, 04:17:17
Post by: krpsh on Mon, 06 July 2020, 05:26:32
I know you r selling 66 limited editions.
Can buy special edition global sales?
And i wtb Schrodinger colorway. Can i?
Post by: vaf1en on Mon, 06 July 2020, 05:27:20
The purple and black colour combination makes no sense to me.
The colours wash together in a dark muddy affair, doing no justice to the accents.
I am convinced purple on white would be the solid choice.
Post by: SxM Designs on Mon, 06 July 2020, 06:15:12
Full disclosure: I voted for purple – one colour to rule them all. ;Ptrue
The purple and black colour combination makes no sense to me.
The colours wash together in a dark muddy affair, doing no justice to the accents.
I am convinced purple on white would be the solid choice.
Post by: Eagle Bearer on Mon, 06 July 2020, 06:15:57
The purple and black colour combination makes no sense to me.
The colours wash together in a dark muddy affair, doing no justice to the accents.
I am convinced purple on white would be the solid choice.
Forgot to elaborate why I did not like the red-black one compared to the white-black/blue/grey. Same sentiments here. The red weight is barely visible against the black bottom and does not contrast well. As per my last comment, a lighter color for the bottom paired with the red top would likely look better.
Post by: syamil17 on Mon, 06 July 2020, 07:34:37
Post by: child on Mon, 06 July 2020, 07:47:21
Post by: manaorme on Mon, 06 July 2020, 07:48:38
Post by: jackzyg on Mon, 06 July 2020, 07:51:54
I saw the post on this link : https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/23286Same question here!
I know you r selling 66 limited editions.
Can buy special edition global sales?
And i wtb Schrodinger colorway. Can i?
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Post by: Oddstag on Mon, 06 July 2020, 08:10:15
Full disclosure: I voted for purple – one colour to rule them all. ;Ptrue
The purple and black colour combination makes no sense to me.
The colours wash together in a dark muddy affair, doing no justice to the accents.
I am convinced purple on white would be the solid choice.
I was locked in for a true Eva purple-green but was still on board for a purple-black with green badge. I think making the green badge a separate purchase (and even that's not a guarantee) has probably lost me. It's an undeniably great design but I just don't have the budget right now to back something unless I really love it. Eva gave me that feeling but I'll probably start looking elsewhere now. I'm sure this will do super well though!
Post by: Ztox on Mon, 06 July 2020, 09:16:37
Full disclosure: I voted for purple – one colour to rule them all. ;P
The purple and black colour combination makes no sense to me.
The colours wash together in a dark muddy affair, doing no justice to the accents.
I am convinced purple on white would be the solid choice.
White... ewww.
lol each to their own, purple and black is the only one I'm interested in.
I was locked in for a true Eva purple-green but was still on board for a purple-black with green badge. I think making the green badge a separate purchase (and even that's not a guarantee) has probably lost me. It's an undeniably great design but I just don't have the budget right now to back something unless I really love it. Eva gave me that feeling but I'll probably start looking elsewhere now. I'm sure this will do super well though!
Yea I would've liked a green badge too but I think the black badge with green light will be pretty nice.
Post by: JCraftCables on Mon, 06 July 2020, 09:23:31
Post by: Zammin on Mon, 06 July 2020, 11:43:51
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 06 July 2020, 15:21:27
(https://i.imgur.com/nuFcpbB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3cAU1IP.jpg)
Post by: alwaysbless on Mon, 06 July 2020, 16:08:15
Does this pic confirm brass badges will be available in r2? Id love to do this but with a navy top instead. The dual alu / pc look is so clean Im sure itll mean buying two though
Post by: Rockets. on Mon, 06 July 2020, 16:22:57
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 06 July 2020, 17:33:02
Yes, it should work with QMK as well as VIA out of the box.
I will test it soon with VIA
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 06 July 2020, 17:34:33
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/O7JbHtY.png)
Does this pic confirm brass badges will be available in r2? Id love to do this but with a navy top instead. The dual alu / pc look is so clean Im sure itll mean buying two though
Yes. Polished brass as an extra, no PVD though.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 06 July 2020, 17:48:03
I believe @alexotos is in agreement with me and AirPotter that we can giveaway Think6.5v2 prototype built by Alex!
I will discuss details with Alex on how to join the giveaway!! Thanks Alex!
Post by: dRnRcRr on Mon, 06 July 2020, 21:18:08
Post by: ohaiyo on Mon, 06 July 2020, 22:08:59
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 06 July 2020, 22:17:05
Can we use mill-max sockets on these PCBs?I’d be interested in this too.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 07 July 2020, 04:09:07
Can we use mill-max sockets on these PCBs?
Can we use mill-max sockets on these PCBs?I’d be interested in this too.
I believe so. 7305 should work.
Post by: Hangos on Tue, 07 July 2020, 04:13:11
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Post by: Roddin on Tue, 07 July 2020, 07:16:50
Post by: S3LQ on Tue, 07 July 2020, 07:33:56
(https://i.imgur.com/07WqrVf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/G9tV8rL.jpg)
Post by: Nles on Tue, 07 July 2020, 11:39:20
Yeah any dates yet? I also need to move some money around etc.
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Roughly 20th according to facebook post. China group buy end on 18th.
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Tue, 07 July 2020, 12:42:10
Can we use mill-max sockets on these PCBs?
I believe so. 7305 should work.
Thanks!
Post by: MrFurrior on Tue, 07 July 2020, 12:48:11
A High-gloss chamfer version will be limited, fcfs during the GB this month:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nuFcpbB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3cAU1IP.jpg)
This is a beauty! Is it going to be available for international buyers as well?
Post by: dRnRcRr on Tue, 07 July 2020, 15:44:13
Post by: Git2Gether on Tue, 07 July 2020, 17:09:38
Post by: dRnRcRr on Tue, 07 July 2020, 17:24:54
Post by: Convergence on Tue, 07 July 2020, 18:04:18
Full disclosure: I voted for purple – one colour to rule them all. ;P
The purple and black colour combination makes no sense to me.
The colours wash together in a dark muddy affair, doing no justice to the accents.
I am convinced purple on white would be the solid choice.
Absolutely agree with this, especially after seeing the e-white renders - purple on white seems like a missed opportunity.
Post by: TofuOrganic on Tue, 07 July 2020, 18:23:41
Post by: chowder266 on Tue, 07 July 2020, 18:32:01
Limited chamfer edition sold out in less than 1s? People must have quick fingers
ate up by bots ofc, oldcat is there a way we can prevent bot attacks?
Post by: alwaysbless on Tue, 07 July 2020, 20:25:26
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Wed, 08 July 2020, 02:51:36
Post by: getlazy on Wed, 08 July 2020, 04:26:19
Post by: SpaceCowboy on Wed, 08 July 2020, 06:05:54
Post by: $W4GK!NG on Wed, 08 July 2020, 06:26:12
Was really hoping for the color options shown in this render, especially the one with the greenish/teal bottom, but it looks like it’s not going to be an option huh? :(Sadly, but you can still hope for the teal badge tho, since the badge color is still tba
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Post by: JCraftCables on Wed, 08 July 2020, 06:45:16
Post by: x1angel on Wed, 08 July 2020, 06:57:46
Was really hoping for the color options shown in this render, especially the one with the greenish/teal bottom, but it looks like it’s not going to be an option huh? :(Yah, I pre-ordered GMK Lazer just for this, if the production lacks these color options, that's would be a lil bit disappointed to me.
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Post by: $W4GK!NG on Wed, 08 July 2020, 07:21:44
Is the 1U/2U badge secured to the case by friction?Its magnetic
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Post by: fail on Wed, 08 July 2020, 07:43:51
Post by: Mimiq on Wed, 08 July 2020, 09:46:19
Was really hoping for the color options shown in this render, especially the one with the greenish/teal bottom, but it looks like it’s not going to be an option huh? :(Yah, I pre-ordered GMK Lazer just for this, if the production lacks these color options, that's would be a lil bit disappointed to me.
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I feel you. I was hoping that the teal prototype would stay to match the new GMK Hammerhead set.
Post by: alwaysbless on Wed, 08 July 2020, 11:32:13
Post by: mvkoto on Wed, 08 July 2020, 11:44:30
Are there in prototype pics of the blue / black version? Renders make it look a blue-greyish color itd be super nice if possible to see what it looks like irl.
The final color is supposed to be a greyish blue.
Post by: bluuz on Wed, 08 July 2020, 13:16:12
A High-gloss chamfer version will be limited, fcfs during the GB this month:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nuFcpbB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3cAU1IP.jpg)
How many units will be available? Do you have any mechanisms in place to stop bots from grabbing all the units, since it's FCFS?
Post by: tiffgu123 on Wed, 08 July 2020, 13:34:11
Post by: ImunizE on Wed, 08 July 2020, 14:03:08
(https://i.imgur.com/44hvbCf.jpg)
Post by: Caspid on Wed, 08 July 2020, 15:16:53
Post by: domoshi on Wed, 08 July 2020, 16:23:17
also, not everything that sells out quick is because of "bots". especially not if it was very limited with high demand in the first place...
Agreed. There's many people that want it as much as anyone else.
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 08 July 2020, 18:02:46
(https://i.imgur.com/8OUOr3l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EnejcQy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5kUuzXU.jpg)
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 08 July 2020, 18:04:13
(https://i.imgur.com/4ly4chc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0B9dG0J.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6v0L6rJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2f0NgXQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dOyWKUo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VISaaOp.jpg)
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Wed, 08 July 2020, 18:27:08
Plates and PCB:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/8OUOr3l.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EnejcQy.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5kUuzXU.jpg)
Looks great! Is that a darker gray than the last pcb pic you shared, or is the light just different? Either way, I like it. Love the black plate too. Are you thinking of doing both black and white plates, or are you still deciding between the two?
Also, regarding the panda colorway, that prototype looks killer. Does the case only screw together along one edge? Or are there hidden screws?
Post by: KMPLSV on Wed, 08 July 2020, 18:37:52
Honestly even a bot cant check out in 1s. Your bot would need to know every field for every page involved in the check out in advance (unlikely unless youve seen it before) and itd still take at least 3-4s. That just sounds off period.Ehhhhhh.....definitely don't want to promote any bots as I can't stand them, but bots like PrismAIO, etc, can check out in a second and they do know every field in advance. Bots capable of this are highly available and frequently used.
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Post by: KMPLSV on Wed, 08 July 2020, 18:40:21
Stop bot attacks? Get rid of the demand.Limited chamfer edition sold out in less than 1s? People must have quick fingers
ate up by bots ofc, oldcat is there a way we can prevent bot attacks?
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Post by: hkhawk on Wed, 08 July 2020, 19:17:01
Panda colorway (e-white + black) prototypes:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4ly4chc.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0B9dG0J.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6v0L6rJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2f0NgXQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dOyWKUo.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VISaaOp.jpg)
Looks really nice, even better than the recent renders where the black looked a bit gray
Post by: tiffgu123 on Wed, 08 July 2020, 19:30:14
Even though I will definitely buy a board, I'm still feeling slight conflicted that I can't have a solid theming with this board. If I want a full boat theme, I still have the gear outlet. If I want a full gear light bulb theme, I still have boat theme bottom weight.
I am pretty sure they are going to offer different badge designs
Post by: isaiasr212 on Wed, 08 July 2020, 21:11:57
Panda colorway (e-white + black) prototypes:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4ly4chc.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0B9dG0J.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6v0L6rJ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/2f0NgXQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/dOyWKUo.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/VISaaOp.jpg)
Me sooooo so Hooooneeeeey :D
Post by: TofuOrganic on Wed, 08 July 2020, 23:52:45
Post by: beekey on Thu, 09 July 2020, 00:46:18
Post by: Ashen_21 on Thu, 09 July 2020, 01:52:47
Post by: MGonzo1308 on Thu, 09 July 2020, 12:06:41
Post by: alanskiii on Thu, 09 July 2020, 12:15:54
Will we be able to pick a mix of poly and aluminum ? top part of the case aluminum and bottom poly... I think that would be really nice.
I was hoping to do the opposite, pc top/alu bottom. But word is we don't know if aluminum and poly carb will have same tolerance. I'd be down to make a trade if we can find out 🙏
Post by: Axariel on Thu, 09 July 2020, 12:32:35
Post by: TofuOrganic on Thu, 09 July 2020, 15:00:24
Will we be able to pick a mix of poly and aluminum ? top part of the case aluminum and bottom poly... I think that would be really nice.If you want an Alu/Poly combo you’ll need to grab a full alu and full poly board as they arent offering a mix :)
Post by: ManiacMarc on Thu, 09 July 2020, 19:03:24
Post by: MGonzo1308 on Thu, 09 July 2020, 20:09:16
Will we be able to pick a mix of poly and aluminum ? top part of the case aluminum and bottom poly... I think that would be really nice.
I was hoping to do the opposite, pc top/alu bottom. But word is we don't know if aluminum and poly carb will have same tolerance. I'd be down to make a trade if we can find out 🙏
Dude I wouldn't mind trading.. I am on the fence to getting one of each anyways... not sure yet.. if I dont get one of each then message me and I will trade... depending on the color..hahahahah!
Post by: Cresc3nt on Thu, 09 July 2020, 22:46:19
Post by: sagarsiddhpura on Fri, 10 July 2020, 02:08:03
Are plates and PCS's same for 1u and 2u variants?
Can you use other standard 65% pcb's?
Thanks
Post by: lamonayon on Fri, 10 July 2020, 07:47:38
Some noob questions:
Are plates and PCS's same for 1u and 2u variants?
Can you use other standard 65% pcb's?
Thanks
PC's and Plates are different from 1U and 2U afaik. As for other PCB's, given the mount-type and the layout of the badges, I don't think that is also possible.
Post by: alwaysbless on Fri, 10 July 2020, 11:05:08
Post by: NervousMink on Fri, 10 July 2020, 11:06:43
Post by: jubei on Fri, 10 July 2020, 11:40:28
Post by: acaban on Fri, 10 July 2020, 11:48:07
Post by: dereknt on Fri, 10 July 2020, 12:39:46
will a video build with a prototype be avaiable before the GB starts? so to assess the general quality and "sound" ?
Alexotos is building one for his charity stream.
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 10 July 2020, 13:08:29
(https://i.imgur.com/SNWaEB8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PH2WdQR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Nr16JgQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0nU2klM.jpg)
2U Prototype (Compass version):
(https://i.imgur.com/7JSBxTk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lQn2HrF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jebfpL4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mfLJtnw.jpg)
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Fri, 10 July 2020, 13:11:21
1U PC Prototype (lightbulb version):Thanks!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SNWaEB8.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PH2WdQR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Nr16JgQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0nU2klM.jpg)
2U Prototype (Compass version):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7JSBxTk.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lQn2HrF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jebfpL4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mfLJtnw.jpg)
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Post by: Shutter_Shock on Fri, 10 July 2020, 13:26:11
1U PC Prototype (lightbulb version):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SNWaEB8.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PH2WdQR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Nr16JgQ.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0nU2klM.jpg)
2U Prototype (Compass version):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7JSBxTk.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lQn2HrF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jebfpL4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mfLJtnw.jpg)
Looks great! Is the 1u build with a black plate?
Post by: alwaysbless on Fri, 10 July 2020, 13:44:24
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 10 July 2020, 18:48:06
Prototypes have been shipped to Alexotos and myself via Potter's DHL agent (I will then send to a few other streamers in the US). Alex will be doing a giveaway stream and maybe another regular stream! I have an e-white aluminum (1U) and one PC (2U) shipped to Alex. Up to him which one he will be giving away :)
The GB will be unlimited for the first day of release. We will then evaluate order quantity demand with the factory's capacity on the first day and decide how long we run the GB.
This is getting closer and closer! Thank you all again for the positive energy, much appreciated!
Post by: wackobear0118 on Fri, 10 July 2020, 20:26:19
Post by: Rockets. on Fri, 10 July 2020, 20:35:00
Post by: dRnRcRr on Fri, 10 July 2020, 21:12:06
Post by: ecbob on Fri, 10 July 2020, 21:39:30
Post by: harrislp on Fri, 10 July 2020, 22:03:49
Post by: lamonayon on Fri, 10 July 2020, 23:42:00
GB currently projected in the week of July 20, 2020
Prototypes have been shipped to Alexotos and myself via Potter's DHL agent (I will then send to a few other streamers in the US). Alex will be doing a giveaway stream and maybe another regular stream! I have an e-white aluminum (1U) and one PC (2U) shipped to Alex. Up to him which one he will be giving away :)
The GB will be unlimited for the first day of release. We will then evaluate order quantity demand with the factory's capacity on the first day and decide how long we run the GB.
This is getting closer and closer! Thank you all again for the positive energy, much appreciated!
Thanks, oldcat!
Which one's left for you then? or the one's you're gonna get? Can you show more pics of the Panda 🐼 with keycaps please?
Post by: fabijolo on Fri, 10 July 2020, 23:53:03
really hope that red/black case will be a pickable option
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 11 July 2020, 13:43:03
GB currently projected in the week of July 20, 2020
Prototypes have been shipped to Alexotos and myself via Potter's DHL agent (I will then send to a few other streamers in the US). Alex will be doing a giveaway stream and maybe another regular stream! I have an e-white aluminum (1U) and one PC (2U) shipped to Alex. Up to him which one he will be giving away :)
The GB will be unlimited for the first day of release. We will then evaluate order quantity demand with the factory's capacity on the first day and decide how long we run the GB.
This is getting closer and closer! Thank you all again for the positive energy, much appreciated!
Thanks, oldcat!
Which one's left for you then? or the one's you're gonna get? Can you show more pics of the Panda 🐼 with keycaps please?
Hey bro! Will for sure do that. I have quite a few keycap sets that will work perfectly with the Panda colorway!
Post by: Jyobah on Sat, 11 July 2020, 14:07:06
Post by: lamonayon on Sat, 11 July 2020, 16:28:30
GB currently projected in the week of July 20, 2020
Prototypes have been shipped to Alexotos and myself via Potter's DHL agent (I will then send to a few other streamers in the US). Alex will be doing a giveaway stream and maybe another regular stream! I have an e-white aluminum (1U) and one PC (2U) shipped to Alex. Up to him which one he will be giving away :)
The GB will be unlimited for the first day of release. We will then evaluate order quantity demand with the factory's capacity on the first day and decide how long we run the GB.
This is getting closer and closer! Thank you all again for the positive energy, much appreciated!
Thanks, oldcat!
Which one's left for you then? or the one's you're gonna get? Can you show more pics of the Panda 🐼 with keycaps please?
Hey bro! Will for sure do that. I have quite a few keycap sets that will work perfectly with the Panda colorway!
will for for the IG posts then! please, post em before GB! 🤣
Post by: dRnRcRr on Sat, 11 July 2020, 18:34:23
Post by: delrn on Sat, 11 July 2020, 19:33:45
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Post by: Stev!e on Sun, 12 July 2020, 04:44:45
GB currently projected in the week of July 20, 2020
Prototypes have been shipped to Alexotos and myself via Potter's DHL agent (I will then send to a few other streamers in the US). Alex will be doing a giveaway stream and maybe another regular stream! I have an e-white aluminum (1U) and one PC (2U) shipped to Alex. Up to him which one he will be giving away :)
The GB will be unlimited for the first day of release. We will then evaluate order quantity demand with the factory's capacity on the first day and decide how long we run the GB.
This is getting closer and closer! Thank you all again for the positive energy, much appreciated!
Wow! An unlimited group buy will make it difficult to decide which color to get :D
Post by: Onnimar on Sun, 12 July 2020, 06:07:32
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Post by: PotatoTM on Sun, 12 July 2020, 15:12:12
Post by: Vaiur on Sun, 12 July 2020, 15:16:10
Post by: kobeian on Sun, 12 July 2020, 15:48:32
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if you don't like the president, you can vote for another one. But my friend, you got NO VOTE on this board. Whether "removing the anchor in the back should be an option" is an option from the DESIGNER, NOT YOU.
Post by: dereknt on Sun, 12 July 2020, 16:26:14
if you don't like the president, you can vote for another one. But my friend, you got NO VOTE on this board. Whether "removing the anchor in the back should be an option" is an option from the DESIGNER, NOT YOU.
Actually, I would be fine with not voting. But since we had votes for other part of the keyboard, everything is just inconsistent. Not fully boat theme, not fully light bulb theme. You can't make this board 1 single coherent theme no matter what configuration option you choose.
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 12 July 2020, 16:34:00
Actually, I would be fine with not voting. But since we had votes for other part of the keyboard, everything is just inconsistent. Not fully boat theme, not fully light bulb theme. You can't make this board 1 single coherent theme no matter what configuration option you choose.
This is the only apprehension I have about getting this board. Everything else is great, but I'm not keen on the thematic inconsistencies.
Post by: SxM Designs on Sun, 12 July 2020, 16:46:59
Actually, I would be fine with not voting. But since we had votes for other part of the keyboard, everything is just inconsistent. Not fully boat theme, not fully light bulb theme. You can't make this board 1 single coherent theme no matter what configuration option you choose.
This is the only apprehension I have about getting this board. Everything else is great, but I'm not keen on the thematic inconsistencies.
You could just get the compass badge and basically complete the theme. But yeah its people who voted the tinhk badge to be default.
Post by: dereknt on Sun, 12 July 2020, 16:58:39
Actually, I would be fine with not voting. But since we had votes for other part of the keyboard, everything is just inconsistent. Not fully boat theme, not fully light bulb theme. You can't make this board 1 single coherent theme no matter what configuration option you choose.
This is the only apprehension I have about getting this board. Everything else is great, but I'm not keen on the thematic inconsistencies.
You could just get the compass badge and basically complete the theme. But yeah its people who voted the tinhk badge to be default.
No, you still have the gear outlet for the USB port. Which is from the lightbulb.
Post by: Kev_TKL on Sun, 12 July 2020, 17:06:31
Post by: dereknt on Sun, 12 July 2020, 17:09:37
I love everything about this keyboard. The theme of sailing and thinking might not go well together, but I am definitely interesting in joining the group buy!
Same, I might not like the theme-ing but I'm definitely interesting. This board is already much more creative with front side design than other keyboard and I like that. I don't want my 75%/65% to look all the same on the front side.
Post by: hkhawk on Sun, 12 July 2020, 17:16:40
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 12 July 2020, 21:48:07
The GB will be live later. It is a quite complex GB, so just putting the pages up first.
There will also be a high-gloss chamfer limited edition for FCFS. Page is pending.
Post by: nikkynak on Sun, 12 July 2020, 23:09:35
The page is live for checking at https://graystudio.club/
The GB will be live later. It is a quite complex GB, so just putting the pages up first.
There will also be a high-gloss chamfer limited edition for FCFS. Page is pending.
Thanks for the link!
Very excited. Eyeing a PC with brass plate/badge.
Post by: hkhawk on Sun, 12 July 2020, 23:28:22
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 13 July 2020, 00:18:03
Is the mystery box random or is it a specific unknown design?
It will be some (10+?) specific unknown color / possibly material combo that I will pick that I personally feel looks great, outside of the current pre-set colorways.
Post by: lids on Mon, 13 July 2020, 00:25:20
Post by: Kalabalik on Mon, 13 July 2020, 00:26:59
I'm confused. What do you mean, "10+"? Are all Schroedingers not the same?Is the mystery box random or is it a specific unknown design?
It will be some (10+?) specific unknown color / possibly material combo that I will pick that I personally feel looks great, outside of the current pre-set colorways.
Post by: guybrush on Mon, 13 July 2020, 00:27:15
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<Mod Edit: Quoted post removed>I was so excited by the prospect of a think6.5 R2, but I have to agree that I’m finding it hard to ignore all the inconsistencies, and the fact that it seems to almost have been designed by this whole thread. I appreciate the option to have input on a GB, but I feel that there was no overall solid idea and so the finished product has ended up a bit of a Frankenstein. But I respect that others seem happy and excited by it, I think I’m just going to have to reluctantly pass on the GB.
Post by: SxM Designs on Mon, 13 July 2020, 00:58:31
Since a EU proxy does not exist, will you guys just declare the original value at customs?
Also, can I ask about a render with hammerhead if you got some time?
Post by: pandaemic on Mon, 13 July 2020, 02:52:08
Any rough ETA as to when it'll be live? I know Graystudio is aiming for the 20th?
Post by: Nles on Mon, 13 July 2020, 04:18:10
Both also can select badge collector for 5 random
Post by: prognostics on Mon, 13 July 2020, 05:57:15
How long do you think this GB is going to be live for?
Any rough ETA as to when it'll be live? I know Graystudio is aiming for the 20th?
From a previous comment by Gray Studio, minimum amount of time the GB is open is 24 hours and will stay open longer depending on # of orders.
It will be live July 20, https://graystudio.club/products/gb-think6-5-v2?variant=34961784078491
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[Timeline]
GB starts: July 20, 20:30 ET
GB Format: GB will be unlimited in the first 24 hours, and a possible cap afterwards.
GB Fulfillment: Start fulfilling 4-5 months after GB ends.
[Price (PayPal fees included)]
Anodized Aluminum: $349
E-white/e-White Dual/Schrodinger: $369
Clear Frosted Polycarbonate (PC): $379
The shipping fee for the first board is $70, each additional board is $20, ships worldwide via DHL Express International.
[1x Think6.5 v2 Package Includes all the follows]
1x case, top & bottom
1x badge (aluminum, lightbulb)
1x Dual-color FR4 plate
1x PCB (Type-C, QMK/VIA support, ESD protection)
1x weight
1x vibration reduction pad
1x noise reduction pad
1x LED diffuser(s)
1x screwdriver (Graystudio brand)
1x tweezer (always test the PCB before soldering!)
Screws, rubber feet, some backup SMD LEDs
Designer packaging
Post by: itsprobablyme on Mon, 13 July 2020, 07:16:24
The page is live for checking at https://graystudio.club/
The GB will be live later. It is a quite complex GB, so just putting the pages up first.
There will also be a high-gloss chamfer limited edition for FCFS. Page is pending.
Is there an ISO option on the group page or is that available by default?
Post by: kevchigga on Mon, 13 July 2020, 07:35:06
It will be live July 20, https://graystudio.club/products/gb-think6-5-v2?variant=34961784078491
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[Timeline][/quote]
GB starts: July 20, 20:30 ET
GB Format: GB will be unlimited in the first 24 hours, and a possible cap afterwards.
GB Fulfillment: Start fulfilling 4-5 months after GB ends.
[Price (PayPal fees included)]
Anodized Aluminum: $349
E-white/e-White Dual/Schrodinger: $369
Clear Frosted Polycarbonate (PC): $379
The shipping fee for the first board is $70, each additional board is $20, ships worldwide via DHL Express International.
[1x Think6.5 v2 Package Includes all the follows]
1x case, top & bottom
1x badge (aluminum, lightbulb)
1x Dual-color FR4 plate
1x PCB (Type-C, QMK/VIA support, ESD protection)
1x weight
1x vibration reduction pad
1x noise reduction pad
1x LED diffuser(s)
1x screwdriver (Graystudio brand)
1x tweezer (always test the PCB before soldering!)
Screws, rubber feet, some backup SMD LEDs
Designer packaging
Oooof that shipping though, but hey, I'm sure it'll be worth it!
Post by: chakkii on Mon, 13 July 2020, 07:55:22
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 13 July 2020, 07:59:11
I watch Top Clack frequently, so having Jae build one would be nice. But any of Apiary, 001Anthony, Tae Keyboards would be nice, and I'd be interested in seeing new streamers, even if I won't have the time to follow all.
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 13 July 2020, 08:01:25
Are there any plans for a repeat of that this time around?
Post by: prognostics on Mon, 13 July 2020, 08:09:36
I saw Taeha Types build what looked a full brass Think6.5 the first time around. Is my memory correct?
Are there any plans for a repeat of that this time around?
I do not think brass is coming back - Oldcat mentioned previously in the thread that this caused significant issues in the past and keyboard.guide says that "The original plan for PVD coated brass special editions fell apart in early 2020 with the announcement from Graystudio that only the black version was produced. The studio's PVD factory wasn't able to produce the gold and rose gold brass versions to a high enough QC standard, so only the black version shipped to buyers of that variant. Customers for the gold and rose gold colours were offered a full refund and discount on future Graystudio products."
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Mon, 13 July 2020, 08:10:44
Cool, thanks!
Post by: getlazy on Mon, 13 July 2020, 08:44:27
Oooof that shipping though, but hey, I'm sure it'll be worth it!
"oof" describes my first reaction to the $70 shipping pretty well. I understand that the packaging is quiet bulky and heavy but still.... oof.
Post by: VictorVallecano on Mon, 13 July 2020, 08:49:39
How long do you think this GB is going to be live for?
Any rough ETA as to when it'll be live? I know Graystudio is aiming for the 20th?
Seconded this. Is there a way not to declare an original value?
Post by: Kalabalik on Mon, 13 July 2020, 08:53:37
Whats the different with normal 1u/2u with 1u/2u schrodinger?
Both also can select badge collector for 5 random
If you select normal 1u/2u badge and 5 random colors option you'll see that it says "unavailable" instead of "sold out". Unavailable means that the chosen combination is not purchasable. The same is true if you select 1u/2u schrodinger and select any color option other than 5 random colors.
Yes, this is very confusing. Not sure why they did it this way.
Post by: Hawksmoor on Mon, 13 July 2020, 11:07:10
Just wanted to pop in and remind people what it is we're doing here. People are designing keyboards that you can purchase if you like them. In the event that you don't like something, please move along and direct your attention elsewhere. No one owes you anything, nor has any obligation to poll the community to compromise their vision to please the masses. Nothing good comes from needlessly criticizing people for their own design decisions. If it's truly "bad", then the GB will fail and lessons will be learned. :thumb:
Consider this a gentle warning that further off-topic and inflammatory posts will not be permitted here, and if you are one that disagrees with the design direction of this board, see above.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 13 July 2020, 11:43:48
A reminder to Hoffman's point earlier in the threadJust wanted to pop in and remind people what it is we're doing here. People are designing keyboards that you can purchase if you like them. In the event that you don't like something, please move along and direct your attention elsewhere. No one owes you anything, nor has any obligation to poll the community to compromise their vision to please the masses. Nothing good comes from needlessly criticizing people for their own design decisions. If it's truly "bad", then the GB will fail and lessons will be learned. :thumb:
Consider this a gentle warning that further off-topic and inflammatory posts will not be permitted here, and if you are one that disagrees with the design direction of this board, see above.
Thanks for the reminder, Hawksmoor. The thread has been cleaned up, a light warning issued, and let's carry on with the IC now. :)
Post by: cadrev on Mon, 13 July 2020, 12:02:16
Post by: dereknt on Mon, 13 July 2020, 12:09:38
A reminder to Hoffman's point earlier in the threadJust wanted to pop in and remind people what it is we're doing here. People are designing keyboards that you can purchase if you like them. In the event that you don't like something, please move along and direct your attention elsewhere. No one owes you anything, nor has any obligation to poll the community to compromise their vision to please the masses. Nothing good comes from needlessly criticizing people for their own design decisions. If it's truly "bad", then the GB will fail and lessons will be learned. :thumb:
Consider this a gentle warning that further off-topic and inflammatory posts will not be permitted here, and if you are one that disagrees with the design direction of this board, see above.
Thanks for the reminder, Hawksmoor. The thread has been cleaned up, a light warning issued, and let's carry on with the IC now. :)
Since this is still under [IC] and not [GB] I want to chime in just a bit regarding this. Constructive criticism goes a long way. Some of the constructive criticism on here are purely out of love for old cat's effort and want to see bar raise even higher for the next product/design.
Hope you understand that some of us meant no harm nor do we hold ill intention. Old Cat can choose to ignore those criticism or not. But in the spirit of "Interest check", we rather give the reasoning of "why we are interested/not interested" and be civil about it. Respectively, nothing good will come out if the polling or IC is unresponsive.
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 13 July 2020, 12:46:16
Post by: tiffgu123 on Mon, 13 July 2020, 14:23:36
Hey oldcat do you recall/know if the photographed PC prototype(s) were build with white or black plate(s)? Also, is the gray PCB the finalized color? (I like the gray, just double checking; also just realized that it puts the gray in Graystudio :D)
I am not oldcat but I am pretty sure the PC prototype was built with a white plate unless you are talking about this one: https://www.instagram.com/p/CCbTDyjnaHF/ And the PCB is going to be gray according to the website: graystudio.club
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Mon, 13 July 2020, 16:04:00
Hey oldcat do you recall/know if the photographed PC prototype(s) were build with white or black plate(s)? Also, is the gray PCB the finalized color? (I like the gray, just double checking; also just realized that it puts the gray in Graystudio :D)
I am not oldcat but I am pretty sure the PC prototype was built with a white plate unless you are talking about this one: https://www.instagram.com/p/CCbTDyjnaHF/ And the PCB is going to be gray according to the website: graystudio.club
Thanks, fam. Just trying to decide if I should order a separate black plate. I feel like I’d prefer the look, but idk how significant of a change it would be / if it would be worth it. I’ve never seen a board with a white plate before, so I’m not sure how visible it would actually be.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 13 July 2020, 16:47:46
Hey oldcat do you recall/know if the photographed PC prototype(s) were build with white or black plate(s)? Also, is the gray PCB the finalized color? (I like the gray, just double checking; also just realized that it puts the gray in Graystudio :D)
I am not oldcat but I am pretty sure the PC prototype was built with a white plate unless you are talking about this one: https://www.instagram.com/p/CCbTDyjnaHF/ And the PCB is going to be gray according to the website: graystudio.club
Yes you are spot on both the plate color (white-gold for PC) and PCB color (at least atm it is decided to be Gray PCB for production).
Thanks bro!
Post by: shb on Mon, 13 July 2020, 17:10:42
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Post by: oldcat on Mon, 13 July 2020, 19:02:08
I assume PCB mount stabilizers will work with this PCB?
No plate mount stabs, only PCB screw-in stabs
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 13 July 2020, 20:31:51
What is the front height of this board?
~18mm
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 14 July 2020, 01:44:46
Can't find any photo of such on the Internet.
Post by: phinix on Tue, 14 July 2020, 02:24:42
What is the front height of this board?
~18mm
Awesome, thanks for confirming. :thumb:
Post by: neutralstate on Tue, 14 July 2020, 02:33:45
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Post by: bukowski on Tue, 14 July 2020, 09:24:50
Post by: PotatoTM on Tue, 14 July 2020, 10:10:33
Is the yellow badge a neon/safety yellow, medium yellow, or mustard yellow? I know you probably get sick of these type of questions, but unfortunately without examples of each color it's hard to gauge what to expect. I remember seeing the Think 6.5v2 discussion on Drop way back when it was just starting to be talked about and in those renders there was a black board with neon yellow badge that looked like it would match GMK Nightrunner perfectly. I knew them that was the exact combo I wanted and just wanted to make sure that is still going to be an option. Thanks.
The yellow will probably be the same as what they had for the CyberVoyager board: https://www.instagram.com/p/B-7hwtgHVxd/
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 14 July 2020, 15:07:36
Would it be possible to get a side view of the PC case?
Yes, DHL shows the prototypes are scheduled to be delivered on the 17th! I will take pictures of them when I receive the package. I am sure Alex will also showcase different angles when he receive the prototypes, one of which is PC.
There are a few sort of side profile pics floating around on in this thread/instagram (https://www.instagram.com/p/CCd-z0enRSS/) as well.
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 14 July 2020, 15:09:46
How does it look when the magnetic badge is removed?
Can't find any photo of such on the Internet.
Here (https://www.instagram.com/p/CBdkRukHb8v/), and I will take more pictures of how the magnetic locking systems work as I receive them soon.
Post by: mattv on Tue, 14 July 2020, 15:48:05
Post by: chakkii on Tue, 14 July 2020, 19:19:59
Post by: red_clone on Tue, 14 July 2020, 22:14:55
Post by: Kalabalik on Tue, 14 July 2020, 22:17:30
what happened to the Discord?Check the #welcome channel.
Post by: red_clone on Tue, 14 July 2020, 22:20:12
Thank you, just saw the IG post right after i posted here lol. thanks.what happened to the Discord?Check the #welcome channel.
Post by: Liub on Tue, 14 July 2020, 23:16:30
Post by: Shutter_Shock on Tue, 14 July 2020, 23:30:21
That shipping is a real killer. Based in Taiwan, I cop it for US/Eur shipping already, thought I might catch a break with Think :(
Yeah that’s unfortunate. I’m sorry. At least as a US customer still waiting on my SU bags though, I’d say the extra for DHL is worth it to me. The entire lubing station IC, GB and delivery occurred while my bags have been stuck in limbo.
Edit: I don’t blame Graystudio for the delay. It is very obviously not their fault at all.
Post by: Krimson_Knight on Wed, 15 July 2020, 13:49:29
Post by: prizeS on Wed, 15 July 2020, 19:27:44
I am new to this website so I apologize if I am not using this thread correctly, but I was curious on the renders. I see that the Teal Badges match the GMK hammerhead caps very well, is this true for the final product? Without pantone specs I do not know how to verify how close Tiffany Teal is to Seafoam. I apologize if this information exists somewhere already. Still learning how to navigate this site properly.
i dont think we'll know until we have actual samples of both. color could be off even if intended to match, so just keep that in mind.
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 15 July 2020, 20:16:21
Took a few quick shots, will take some good pictures after I build one this Friday!
(https://i.imgur.com/GqrVxJ0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WZQhPUu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uGjAc4F.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7YHU5dX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WqztbFK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EB5VrsU.jpg)
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Post by: Roddin on Thu, 16 July 2020, 06:33:15
[mention]Roddin [/mention] don’t start crying yet. The group buy starts on 7/20.
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THANK GOD BRO!!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. thanks for making my day. was fkin depressed when i saw that the boards were sold out of graystudios.
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Post by: prognostics on Thu, 16 July 2020, 10:52:51
Also, the high gloss black version listing is up, at a premium price of $449
Post by: heyimpanda on Thu, 16 July 2020, 11:03:25
Oldcat, what color is the default badge for the PC version?
Also, the high gloss black version listing is up, at a premium price of $449
It's the e-white badge. If you click on the full details for the keyboard, scroll down to 'Color options' and it'll be there
Post by: alwaysbless on Thu, 16 July 2020, 11:48:54
Oldcat, what color is the default badge for the PC version?
Also, the high gloss black version listing is up, at a premium price of $449
It's the e-white badge. If you click on the full details for the keyboard, scroll down to 'Color options' and it'll be there
According to the many sample pics its white.
Post by: drlemon14afc on Thu, 16 July 2020, 12:05:58
I've been saving up for this board and I'm soo excited for it but I'm super stressed about it getting stuck somewhere due to political changes :-[
Post by: Ztox on Thu, 16 July 2020, 12:40:15
Anyone here ordering this from the UK? I'm getting worried about how our stupid Brexit-nonsense will affect the shipping of the board as I'm guessing this will be due to ship in 2021 and UK's situation could be ridiculous by then.
I've been saving up for this board and I'm soo excited for it but I'm super stressed about it getting stuck somewhere due to political changes :-[
I am. I haven't given that any thought, neither am I bothered by it.
Post by: drlemon14afc on Thu, 16 July 2020, 12:47:47
Anyone here ordering this from the UK? I'm getting worried about how our stupid Brexit-nonsense will affect the shipping of the board as I'm guessing this will be due to ship in 2021 and UK's situation could be ridiculous by then.
I've been saving up for this board and I'm soo excited for it but I'm super stressed about it getting stuck somewhere due to political changes :-[
I am. I haven't given that any thought, neither am I bothered by it.
Fair :thumb: your confidence is giving me a bit more confidence come Monday's GB. Cheers
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Fri, 17 July 2020, 01:25:36
The deadline for myself to ship them all out is before the Chinese New Year. Things become uncontrollable then as factories will close for a couple of weeks and couriers may also stop working.
I will order the production materials as soon as I get a solid estimate about the demand after the 24 hrs of GB, that is, next Tuesday in US time. I recently decided to delegate my 3D printing company business to my partner and I am now working on producing top-quality keyboards as a full-time endeavor. I am always in the hunt for better processes and better technologies, and I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the quality of this board.
Thank you all for the support. And this GB will start this Sunday as Alex builds a prototype on his stream.
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Fri, 17 July 2020, 02:05:41
PCB will have out of box VIA support, it is QMK compatible, has ESD protection
PCB has 18 underglow RGB LEDs, 2 (1U) or 4 (2U) Badge RGB LEDs.
Production version will be a small physical switch to switch off the underglow LEDs.
Post by: SpaceCowboy on Fri, 17 July 2020, 05:25:09
For the PCB, I will speak on behalf of Demo S:
PCB will have out of box VIA support, it is QMK compatible, has ESD protection
PCB has 18 underglow RGB LEDs, 2 (1U) or 4 (2U) Badge RGB LEDs.
Production version will be a small physical switch to switch off the underglow LEDs.
So if you get an alu case, you probably won’t be seeing too much of the underglow lighting huh?
Post by: mvkoto on Fri, 17 July 2020, 11:19:42
There is a decent chance this GB ships in 2020, at least for some of you. Shipping nowadays is slower than pre-Covid era and much more expensive for the same service, but I will do my best.
The deadline for myself to ship them all out is before the Chinese New Year. Things become uncontrollable then as factories will close for a couple of weeks and couriers may also stop working.
I will order the production materials as soon as I get a solid estimate about the demand after the 24 hrs of GB, that is, next Tuesday in US time. I recently decided to delegate my 3D printing company business to my partner and I am now working on producing top-quality keyboards as a full-time endeavor. I am always in the hunt for better processes and better technologies, and I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the quality of this board.
Thank you all for the support. And this GB will start this Sunday as Alex builds a prototype on his stream.
Thank you!
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 17 July 2020, 17:47:01
For the PCB, I will speak on behalf of Demo S:
PCB will have out of box VIA support, it is QMK compatible, has ESD protection
PCB has 18 underglow RGB LEDs, 2 (1U) or 4 (2U) Badge RGB LEDs.
Production version will be a small physical switch to switch off the underglow LEDs.
So if you get an alu case, you probably won’t be seeing too much of the underglow lighting huh?
Correct. Since there are already 2 different PCBs (for 1U and 2U versions), and some might purchase extra PCBs, we opted to not remove the underglow LEDs for aluminum versions, but to add a small switch to allow you to enable/disable them (no effect on the badge LEDs/other external LEDs, e.g., if you install 4XRGB on the ESC key).
Post by: Slayer77 on Fri, 17 July 2020, 17:48:17
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Post by: oldcat on Fri, 17 July 2020, 17:53:31
(https://i.imgur.com/LA8Azai.jpg)
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 17 July 2020, 17:54:37
Hi oldcat! Sorry for all the toxic requests, wanted to wish you a good luck on the GB!
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Hey bro no worries and thanks for the kind wishes!
Post by: toumatakeshi on Fri, 17 July 2020, 19:27:02
Post by: puq on Fri, 17 July 2020, 22:16:27
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 18 July 2020, 01:16:48
Here is a quick tutorial on installing a 4XRGB kit on Think6.5V2. Suffice to say that 4XRGB kit an be installed in many PCBs using various methods, but we have made a conscious effort to make it super easy for you to install it. This is also my absolutely favorite mod to any keyboard build.
First step:
Take a 4XRGB kit (with some wires, which will be provided with the kit in the upcoming GB), and fix it to a flat surface. What I did was to stick it on a plastic surface with a double sided adhesive.
Apply some solder on the pads (the pads will be optimized in the new version DemoS developed, what I am showcasing here is an old version of 4XRGB kit), and solder the 3 wires to the pads.
Note that the 3 pads are G, I, and V.
(https://i.imgur.com/O9K6Pdf.jpg)
Second, stick the kit to the PCB. I use double sided adhesive, applied to the bottom of the kit, which sticks to the PCB. Note that I use a switch to guide it, so that later the switch can fit in the switch slot but not collide with the kit.
(https://i.imgur.com/XLAoHNx.jpg)
Third, insert the wires through the hole on the PCB to the back of the PCB.
(https://i.imgur.com/A0PfDhG.jpg)
Fourth, clip the wires to the right length, and solder them to the G.O.V holes, note that you match G wire to G, I wire to O, and V wire to V. I use different colors of wires, but if you might use single color if you can tell them apart as you solder the respective wires to the correct holes.
(https://i.imgur.com/kb46MuB.jpg)
Fifth, this all is done correctly, when you connect the USB cable, the 4 RGB LEDs on the kit should light up.
(https://i.imgur.com/Lf0exET.jpg)
This is how it looks like when you put a switch on. Use some transparent or translucent switches for maximum RGB effects.
(https://i.imgur.com/4nLWTg7.jpg)
Lastly, tune your VIA light effects settings to achieve the result you like for the 4XRGB ESC Mod, here is mine.
Not a valid vimeo URL
Post by: woyaodapian on Sat, 18 July 2020, 01:30:32
Post by: beekey on Sat, 18 July 2020, 06:36:21
DemoS said he will offer the 4XRGB kit along with the Think6.5V2 GB, so there is no need to pay shipping, in case you want to pick up some. Here is an instruction I made, as I built a Think6.5 V2 proto tonight.Thank you for sharing this. :thumb:
Here is a quick tutorial on installing a 4XRGB kit on Think6.5V2. Suffice to say that 4XRGB kit an be installed in many PCBs using various methods, but we have made a conscious effort to make it super easy for you to install it. This is also my absolutely favorite mod to any keyboard build.
First step:
Take a 4XRGB kit (with some wires, which will be provided with the kit in the upcoming GB), and fix it to a flat surface. What I did was to stick it on a plastic surface with a double sided adhesive.
Apply some solder on the pads (the pads will be optimized in the new version DemoS developed, what I am showcasing here is an old version of 4XRGB kit), and solder the 3 wires to the pads.
Note that the 3 pads are G, I, and V.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/O9K6Pdf.jpg)
Second, stick the kit to the PCB. I use double sided adhesive, applied to the bottom of the kit, which sticks to the PCB. Note that I use a switch to guide it, so that later the switch can fit in the switch slot but not collide with the kit.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/XLAoHNx.jpg)
Third, insert the wires through the hole on the PCB to the back of the PCB.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/A0PfDhG.jpg)
Fourth, clip the wires to the right length, and solder them to the G.O.V holes, note that you match G wire to G, I wire to O, and V wire to V. I use different colors of wires, but if you might use single color if you can tell them apart as you solder the respective wires to the correct holes.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kb46MuB.jpg)
Fifth, this all is done correctly, when you connect the USB cable, the 4 RGB LEDs on the kit should light up.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Lf0exET.jpg)
This is how it looks like when you put a switch on. Use some transparent or translucent switches for maximum RGB effects.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4nLWTg7.jpg)
Lastly, tune your VIA light effects settings to achieve the result you like for the 4XRGB ESC Mod, here is mine.
Not a valid vimeo URL
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 18 July 2020, 14:59:33
Hey thanks for putting on this GB, super excited. Does your render mean that we can order an e-white top and PC bottom? Or is it only possible with the Schrodinger?
It won’t be a regular option, we will put some in the schrodinger if it works well after more tests
Post by: oldcat on Sat, 18 July 2020, 22:13:52
(https://i.imgur.com/309yxBp.jpg)
Post by: itsprobablyme on Sat, 18 July 2020, 23:58:11
Personally, I'll probably be down for an e-white to match my future funk keycaps. I am undecided on base layout of 1u or 2u though. Both look dope. It's hard to choose.
Post by: ritingon on Sun, 19 July 2020, 01:02:37
Post by: MicroPepega on Sun, 19 July 2020, 01:05:50
Quick question (that I sincerely hope hasn't been answered already): is the included badge color the same as the top case? Or bottom case?
I believe it's the same color as the bottom case
Post by: beekey on Sun, 19 July 2020, 02:15:22
Quick question (that I sincerely hope hasn't been answered already): is the included badge color the same as the top case? Or bottom case?There is a table on the GB page with the color combinations for each of the sets:
(https://i.imgur.com/5r3wWiY.png)
Post by: acaban on Sun, 19 July 2020, 02:51:42
What board and badge type is everyone getting and why?
Personally, I'll probably be down for an e-white to match my future funk keycaps. I am undecided on base layout of 1u or 2u though. Both look dope. It's hard to choose.
1u, because I usually map the right shift tap as home and the key next to up to end.
Post by: ritingon on Sun, 19 July 2020, 03:07:29
Quick question (that I sincerely hope hasn't been answered already): is the included badge color the same as the top case? Or bottom case?There is a table on the GB page with the color combinations for each of the sets:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5r3wWiY.png)
So there is. I even glanced at that and managed not to read that part. Many thanks.
Post by: cloudtastrophe on Sun, 19 July 2020, 06:29:58
Post by: lz2019 on Sun, 19 July 2020, 11:44:01
offering 7 top colors and 4 bottom colors, ending with only 10 choices? it's unlimited GB, why not free combination.
anyway, wish the GB successful
Post by: dereknt on Sun, 19 July 2020, 12:02:30
such long thread, it's a bit disappointed the color combinations turned out very limited at last,
offering 7 top colors and 4 bottom colors, ending with only 10 choices? it's unlimited GB, why not free combination.
anyway, wish the GB successful
If this current combination already give oldcat cold sweats, unlimited GB with free combination will cause him to go mental. Unlimit GB and free combination is a QC/Logistic nightmare.
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 19 July 2020, 16:08:58
Apiary and Alex will be both building an aluminum version next week. I will also send my own prototype to Tiny/Taeha next week. Their schedules may not work out for the GB (afaik Taeha is moving now), but at least you will enjoy the build streams some time!
Post by: X_point on Mon, 20 July 2020, 03:27:53
Quick question (that I sincerely hope hasn't been answered already): is the included badge color the same as the top case? Or bottom case?There is a table on the GB page with the color combinations for each of the sets:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5r3wWiY.png)
Will the schrodinger be one of these combinations or completely random ?
Post by: lamonayon on Mon, 20 July 2020, 07:24:25
Alex's build stream of the PC version: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/684464581
Apiary and Alex will be both building an aluminum version next week. I will also send my own prototype to Tiny/Taeha next week. Their schedules may not work out for the GB (afaik Taeha is moving now), but at least you will enjoy the build streams some time!
Which colorway is Apiary getting OC?
Post by: drlemon14afc on Mon, 20 July 2020, 07:29:53
I'm definitely in for a spare PCB and brass badge but I'm not sure I could go in for the matching weight and potential extra badges this month :( I can understand if this won't be the case but feeling hopeful!
Post by: Kings on Mon, 20 July 2020, 08:50:41
Quick question (that I sincerely hope hasn't been answered already): is the included badge color the same as the top case? Or bottom case?There is a table on the GB page with the color combinations for each of the sets:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/5r3wWiY.png)
Will the schrodinger be one of these combinations or completely random ?
I believe they said it would be random.
Post by: StoryB on Mon, 20 July 2020, 10:57:14
Post by: KurtKurtson on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:07:42
Post by: Noodlehouse on Mon, 20 July 2020, 12:13:27
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:35:55
Post by: JoltFX on Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:36:44
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Post by: Nediah on Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:37:27
Post by: JoltFX on Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:38:06
2U Stormtrooper gang <3Yes... just YES
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Post by: Kaptain Mike on Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:41:19
Post by: VoidX on Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:42:13
Post by: JoltFX on Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:42:55
I got 2U deep ocean to match Hammerhead, with extra blue 2u nautical. 2u seems more popular I think- I just like the look more as it separates from the arrows. A couple novelties in that top right would be cleanAgreed
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Post by: Kaptain Mike on Mon, 20 July 2020, 14:51:41
Post by: ninjacore on Mon, 20 July 2020, 15:03:28
Can someone explain to me the 4XRGB kits? Is this more for the PC bottom or can I still make use of this rgb kit?
4 LEDs shining UP around your escape key
Post by: Kaptain Mike on Mon, 20 July 2020, 15:07:32
Post by: JoltFX on Mon, 20 July 2020, 15:09:03
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Post by: Kaptain Mike on Mon, 20 July 2020, 15:21:55
The board has under glow but no per key lighting aside from the ESC with the kit and the badge
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Thanks for clarifying!
Post by: hkhawk on Mon, 20 July 2020, 16:05:15
Are you guys going for the 2U or the 1U layout? What do you think most people will opt for?
I like 2u better just because it is fully surrounded by the case on all sides rather than right on the edge of the board. It looks more "balanced" to me.
Post by: isaiasr212 on Mon, 20 July 2020, 18:00:34
Post by: CaptRiskyBiscuits on Mon, 20 July 2020, 18:13:13
Post by: prognostics on Mon, 20 July 2020, 18:16:00
Does anyone want to help me chose? PC or Robocop. GMK Apollo is going to go on initially. I NEED HELP
Robocop if it's your first build, PC if it's not
Post by: CaptRiskyBiscuits on Mon, 20 July 2020, 18:30:42
Quote
Robocop if it's your first build, PC if it's not
It's my first bigger build. So I think i'll do robocop. I really like the PC though. If it was smoked it'd be a no brainer.
EDIT: Robocop it is. Ordered
Post by: Vncity86 on Mon, 20 July 2020, 23:53:22
Post by: fabijolo on Mon, 20 July 2020, 23:56:17
Silly question about the Schrodinger Colorals, do they just pick a random one for you; or are they special colors?
Post by: Vncity86 on Mon, 20 July 2020, 23:59:30
Random + special actually :DSilly question about the Schrodinger Colorals, do they just pick a random one for you; or are they special colors?
Post by: TheMegaSean on Tue, 21 July 2020, 00:51:09
Having this keeb, Space65, and RAMA M65-B (whenever it arrives), I think I’m finally set!
EDIT: It's just a bummer that shipping to Taiwan is $70 from HK. That being said, I'm still very happy about this purchase.
Post by: puq on Tue, 21 July 2020, 02:22:39
Post by: Stev!e on Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:00:57
Post by: Grey_Warden on Tue, 21 July 2020, 10:09:37
Post by: getlazy on Tue, 21 July 2020, 12:20:34
2U Stormtrooper w/ additional PCB + Plate. As well as a white nautical badge.
Having this keeb, Space65, and RAMA M65-B (whenever it arrives), I think I’m finally set!
EDIT: It's just a bummer that shipping to Taiwan is $70 from HK. That being said, I'm still very happy about this purchase.
Im pretty sure in the graystudio discord there was something about locations near to HK, that can contact them to figure out a better solution regarding shipping. Cant point you to the specifics but maybe if you ask there again, that could help
Post by: ShovelScum on Wed, 22 July 2020, 23:23:15
Post by: ShovelScum on Wed, 22 July 2020, 23:25:45
Post by: Lockon on Wed, 22 July 2020, 23:28:49
Dang..... I totally missed it..... This week has been hell.... I lost a close friend last week and completely forgot about this.... It is not my ****ing month... I was planning to buy 2 and i totally forgot about my reminder. I really hope there are extras coming out later.
Hey man I'm really sorry to hear that. If it makes you feel any better, there will be another short window where you can join the GB when alexotos Twitch streams his second build (Friday 7pm EDT). Hopefully you can place your order then. All the best to you.
Post by: ShovelScum on Wed, 22 July 2020, 23:32:08
Dang..... I totally missed it..... This week has been hell.... I lost a close friend last week and completely forgot about this.... It is not my ****ing month... I was planning to buy 2 and i totally forgot about my reminder. I really hope there are extras coming out later.
Hey man I'm really sorry to hear that. If it makes you feel any better, there will be another short window where you can join the GB when alexotos Twitch streams his second build (Friday 7pm EDT). Hopefully you can place your order then. All the best to you.
Do you know how long it will be open for?! I would really like to nab, even just one...
Post by: Lockon on Wed, 22 July 2020, 23:40:23
Dang..... I totally missed it..... This week has been hell.... I lost a close friend last week and completely forgot about this.... It is not my ****ing month... I was planning to buy 2 and i totally forgot about my reminder. I really hope there are extras coming out later.
Hey man I'm really sorry to hear that. If it makes you feel any better, there will be another short window where you can join the GB when alexotos Twitch streams his second build (Friday 7pm EDT). Hopefully you can place your order then. All the best to you.
Do you know how long it will be open for?! I would really like to nab, even just one...
It will be open for the duration of the streams so somewhere between 2-3 hours.
Post by: ShovelScum on Wed, 22 July 2020, 23:46:31
Dang..... I totally missed it..... This week has been hell.... I lost a close friend last week and completely forgot about this.... It is not my ****ing month... I was planning to buy 2 and i totally forgot about my reminder. I really hope there are extras coming out later.
Hey man I'm really sorry to hear that. If it makes you feel any better, there will be another short window where you can join the GB when alexotos Twitch streams his second build (Friday 7pm EDT). Hopefully you can place your order then. All the best to you.
Do you know how long it will be open for?! I would really like to nab, even just one...
It will be open for the duration of the streams so somewhere between 2-3 hours.
I might have a chance then! I work night shift, so i am usually not even out of bed until 17:00-17:30 CST on Wednesday-Saturday. So hopefully i can catch it before work! Thank you for the information!
Post by: Grey_Warden on Fri, 24 July 2020, 06:10:59
Dang..... I totally missed it..... This week has been hell.... I lost a close friend last week and completely forgot about this.... It is not my ****ing month... I was planning to buy 2 and i totally forgot about my reminder. I really hope there are extras coming out later.
Hey man I'm really sorry to hear that. If it makes you feel any better, there will be another short window where you can join the GB when alexotos Twitch streams his second build (Friday 7pm EDT). Hopefully you can place your order then. All the best to you.
Do you know how long it will be open for?! I would really like to nab, even just one...
It will be open for the duration of the streams so somewhere between 2-3 hours.
Nice! Is it unlimited during that window?
Post by: chowder266 on Fri, 24 July 2020, 15:27:44
Dang..... I totally missed it..... This week has been hell.... I lost a close friend last week and completely forgot about this.... It is not my ****ing month... I was planning to buy 2 and i totally forgot about my reminder. I really hope there are extras coming out later.
Hey man I'm really sorry to hear that. If it makes you feel any better, there will be another short window where you can join the GB when alexotos Twitch streams his second build (Friday 7pm EDT). Hopefully you can place your order then. All the best to you.
Do you know how long it will be open for?! I would really like to nab, even just one...
It will be open for the duration of the streams so somewhere between 2-3 hours.
Nice! Is it unlimited during that window?
Yes! Last chance before extras sale
Post by: puq on Fri, 24 July 2020, 19:40:10
Post by: ShovelScum on Fri, 24 July 2020, 20:41:35
Post by: JoltFX on Sat, 25 July 2020, 04:30:48
Hey I picked up an additional badge during the second window of the group buy. I purchased my board in the first window. It didn’t charge me for shipping for the single badge. Will the orders automatically be combined if I used all the same information, email, address etc.? Thank you!!You’ll need to email potter... check discord and use command !contact for his and graystudio emails. Potter replied in an hour for me and merged the two no problem. Don’t expect it without reaching out :)
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Post by: ADuckNamedPsyduck on Sat, 01 August 2020, 21:18:31
Post by: Cresc3nt on Sat, 01 August 2020, 21:36:58
Please tell me the next window is next Friday August 7th and not this past Friday. My heart can’t take having missed this twice.
The sale is over, you're gonna have to wait for extras :(.
Post by: ADuckNamedPsyduck on Sat, 01 August 2020, 21:38:22
Please tell me the next window is next Friday August 7th and not this past Friday. My heart can’t take having missed this twice.
The sale is over, you're gonna have to wait for extras :(.
Womp. Womp. Seriously sad day.
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Tue, 16 February 2021, 17:04:15
Partial of the Think6.5v2 GB boards have been shipped.
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Tue, 16 February 2021, 17:15:00
(https://i.imgur.com/9cmr8Lm.jpg)
Post by: Millbean on Sun, 21 March 2021, 22:26:40
Post by: MrFixIT12 on Sun, 21 March 2021, 22:37:53
Are they ever gonna start shipping again? Some people got their boards almost 1 ½ months ago and CNY has been over for about a month now??!
There was an update in the discord. Potter has been packing and handing shipments off to the DHL agent, so we should start seeing new shipments going out soon.