The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either.
I don't see a problem here.
You will believe whatever they tell you in the media.
I'd rather face the danger.
Btw, I like this quote by Benjamin Franklin.
This is the problem.
Ironically this is also bad for security as inherently limited resources are tied up pointlessly frisking little American girls so the big Saudi Arabian men don't receive the attention they deserve.
Are you a complete moron? Do you realize Benjamin Franklin lived in the 1700s? Times change.
In this day and age, it is sad, but we need to be aware and protect our nation against terrorism. You're just someone that needs to whine about everything including undergoing a patdown.
Don't flatter yourself, you're not being picked out from the crowd because you're so good looking someone wants to feel you up.
And while I'm mentioning Israel, did you know they have the safest airports in the world, even though they're the most at risk for terrorist attacks? Did you know they don't use the same procedures we do, and they think of them as stupid and unnecessary? They just observe, scan baggage, and use metal detectors. No xray scanners or patdowns.
This is the price we pay for freedom and the inability to profile. Now I don't mean racially profile, but some amount of common sense instead of zero tolerance would be cool, like giving a kid a quick glance over would be enough, instead of a pat down.
That's why DHS launches takeover of hotels, malls and sports stadiums.
Did you know that more people die from bathroom accidents than in terrorist attacks?
At what point are you willing to say enough is enough.
Never heard of such takeovers. Where's your proof??
You're 8x more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.
It is in the TSA's best interest to protect the greater good of every person on every airplane by making sure bombs and other weapons don't get in. Anything could happen; terrorists could put bombs or other weapons on kids even without them knowing it. When I was 12 they wouldn't even let me bring my keychain on an airplane because it was shaped like a bullet.
Sadly this is a global thing what we must stop now.
...what is wrong with this country......you not realize this whole 'terrorism' thing is a big fairy tale?..you not realize that the most recent terrorism 'scares' were by men RECRUITED and TRAINED at FBI camps in Afghanistan?....
......everyone get off RiGS **** and start commenting on what he's actually saying,...., you guys are the ones that do most of the trolling.
We didn't need nor accept pat downs at airports 30 years ago.
...tell us what great country you are all from?
Ironically this is also bad for security as inherently limited resources are tied up pointlessly frisking little American girls so the big Saudi Arabian men don't receive the attention they deserve.
Think about that. Driving to work is many times more dangerous than terrorists...why dont we regulate driving?! Speeds of 25mph max! Rubber bumpers on every car!
... They'd go somewhere else much more crowded. Let's install TSA at every subway station! It's necessary because the terrorist might show up there! Let's put them in every mall And theme park! We must do whatever we can to be safe!
Dont be silly. Terrorism never has been and never will be a serious threat.
RiGS, how do feel about Jewish people again?
You must be just as insane as rigs and Alex Jones to believe THAT.
Have you ever read the Talmud?
I encourage you to do so, then we can get back to this.
I travel the world with colleagues. Me and my stupid candid white ass face almost never get special attention. But I had to wait countless times for my not so white friends. They don't need more attention than me... What makes them so interesting?
Profiling is wrong...
Have you ever read the Talmud?
I encourage you to do so, then we can get back to this.
Old Testament is Talmud.
This causes a greater problem. International businessmen are less willing to come to the US than before...they don't want to wait for hours at out ridiculous lines and go through security checkpoints that violate their privacy and yet don't actually make anyone more safe.
That was a controlled demolition.
I have no problem with any ethnicity.
If the goal is to prevent another 9/11, than allocating disproportionate amount of resources to check Arabs and Muslims is the right thing to do (in the absence of more specific intelligence).
When it comes to issue of effectiveness there is no doubt that this works and works very well (look at Israel for an example).
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I see Boobs!
I see Boobs!
Love the Gypsies. Hate the French (unless they play a mean violin).
Must be the fries... because they killed much more americans than any terrorists dead or alive.Yeah, but that's hardly any achievement,
You're 8x more likely to be killed by a police officer than a terrorist.That's a misleading statistic.
It isn't just the number of people who die, it's the knowledge that those who are responsible can strike again.
We have to make very, very sure that terrorists aren't in a position to deflect the foreign policy of the United States.
Police (http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/2010/04/police-shot-unarmed-civilians-after-katrina-officer-testifies.html/) shot unarmed civilians.
We have to make very, very sure that terrorists aren't in a position to deflect the foreign policy of the United States.
Obama as a Nobel Peace award winner has YET to bring peace and democracy to ANYWHERE IN the world.
Obama as a Nobel Peace award winner has to bring peace and democracy to the rest of the world, and let the Federal Reserve to take control over their National Banks.
Fixed that for ya
It is in the TSA's best interest to protect the greater good of every person on every airplane by making sure bombs and other weapons don't get in. Anything could happen; terrorists could put bombs or other weapons on kids even without them knowing it. When I was 12 they wouldn't even let me bring my keychain on an airplane because it was shaped like a bullet.
I eat people and take their money. I live in a secret village known for its canibalism in Hungary.
TSA are thuggish security guards, I'm pretty sure we all hate them, you just need a HS dipolma and no criminal record to work as one.
The fascinating thing about cranks and conspiracy theorists is the juxtaposition of paranoia and gullibility. Rationally, you wouldn't expect the two to go together, but they always do.
Who are you referring to?
The fascinating thing about cranks and conspiracy theorists is the juxtaposition of paranoia and gullibility. Rationally, you wouldn't expect the two to go together, but they always do.
All of them. It's subject-independent.
I found this movie fascinating.
All of them. It's subject-independent.
The fascinating thing about sheep is the ignorance to the fact they are about to be slaughtered in a slaughterhouse.
Aren't too many movies with "Slaughterhouse" in them. Slaughterhouse Five is another one.
What's most amazing is their ability to mix and match and adapt their paranoia for any situation. "The Rothschild family and global warming alarmists assassinated JFK and stole Walt Disney's brain so they could fake the moon landing and Obama's birth certificate and build a highway between Mexico and Canada! Wake up sheeple!"
Sigh... Dude you sound like a radical extremist.
I don't know if "most terrorists are Muslims" is strictly true. There are a lot of domestic terrorists in this country who are not Muslim, e.g. the Oklahoma City bombing, countless abortion clinic bombings and attempted and successful assassinations of abortion doctors, that guy who flew a plane into an IRS building (to little effect), that guy who shot up a unitarian church, the Atlanta Olympics bombing, various militias, the anthrax mailings, etc.
There is a world of difference between statements "most Muslims are terrorists" and "most terrorists are Muslims". But you seem to be unable to grasp it.
the tsa along with all this security theatre is a ****ing joke
I do have problems with the hidden effects of the social conditioning based on the Talmud.
There is a lot of garbage in "holy" books of all three major religions.
Quote from: neo;329345There is a world of difference between statements "most Muslims are terrorists" and "most terrorists are Muslims". But you seem to be unable to grasp it.
Really?
the things you are saying portray a classical anti-Semite, the type that was "socially conditioned" in Europe for centuries.
I don't know if you realize this, but the things you are saying portray a classical anti-Semite, the type that was "socially conditioned" in Europe for centuries.
Radical extremist? For pointing out the fact that every one of the 9/11 attackers was an Arab and a Muslim?
Have you actually read it? Have you ever talked with a real jew?
Yes, really. Those two statements are very different.
Radical extremist? For pointing out the fact that every one of the 9/11 attackers was an Arab and a Muslim?Quote from: RiGS;329436Only foolish people believe that crap. This is a blatant propaganda of the US government.
You obviously doesn't know anything about Jewish religion and ethics.
Feel free to worship their ideas.
I choose not to...
If you think refusing those ideas is anti-semitism, I'm fine with that as well.
Some of the people can't handle the truth. You are one of them.
I said Talmud was full of garbage.
Don't expect me to get involved.
My hands are full eating the popcorn.
Tell us the truth than, who was behind 9/11 attacks?
All Religion are strongly connected, and those ideas are dangerous on every civilizations.
That's how i feel really.
We'll never know the full ramifications of the incident.
You are trying too hard to put a face on the problem. Terrorism is poor man's warfare all around the world. It doesn't have a home country, religion or color.
It's a marginal desperate action done by marginal desperate people. Where they come from or the God(s) they pray is totally irrelevant.
The fact that you choose to ignore similar or worse garbage in Bible and Koran - that's what gives away the racist "social conditioning" you went through.
Can't wait to hear RiGS's thoughts on the holocaust.
The tactics of warfare are indeed irrelevant, but the identity and motivation of perpetrators is not. You are trying too hard to avoid looking at the root of the problem. A significant part of Arab/Muslim world is at war with us. We know this is the tactic they choose when they attack. Doesn't it make sense to defend against this specific enemy WE KNOW IS TRYING TO ATTACK instead of frisking little white girls for the benefit of political correctness?
TBH you are the racist.
WE KNOW IS TRYING TO ATTACK instead of frisking little white girls for the benefit of political correctness?
WE KNOW IS TRYING TO ATTACK instead of frisking little white girls for the benefit of political correctness?Quote from: BucklingSpring;329512Just as you knew you were going to find WMD's in Iraq?
Turns out we CAN have a discussion without resolving to personal insults. I hope ripster isn't too disappointed.
wow you must be some dumb white guy if all you think racism= is hate.
So you are the defiinite expert on racism, and that's why you have authorized yourself to call me a dumb white guy.
racism=hate
I have never said I hate them, however I have the right to not like them.
I don't like clicky switches either, yet I don't hate the people who own them.
So you are the defiinite expert on racism, and that's why you have authorized yourself to call me a dumb white guy.
Unlike RiGS, I am NOT an anti-semite. I am an anti-dentite.
That's right, I don't like dentists.
Of course you have a right not to like them. This, of course, makes you a racist and gives us a right to call you a racist. But one has to admit anti-Semites are not what they used to be. People who invented the term were proud to call themselves anti-Semites. And now look at you... I guess after the Holocaust this term lost some of it's sex appeal. But at least the essence is alive and well...
I hate condoms what does it make me?
(Don't say "hiv seropositive", cauz I know I'm not)
Do you like gay people?
Mother of Many?
Many of us are educated, open-minded, non-religious, and with strong international background. We can spot propaganda and general bull**** pretty well.
If you think these terrorists are all Muslims, you're wrong. The snipers in Iraq and Afghanistan that are killing our soldiers? Chechnyan guns for hire. The people teaching these extremist groups how to make bombs? Chechnyans.
Personally, I am educated, open-minded and religious as well (Christian). But I am tolerant of others
I guess that crowd doesn't include you. I count a lot more than 10 terrorist attacks, in 2010 alone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2010).
Want more knowledge? Here's 2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2009), 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2008), 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2007), 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2006), 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2005), 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2004), 2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2003), 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2002) and 2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2001).
Personally, I am educated, open-minded and religious as well (Christian). But I am tolerant of others. Unlike RiGS.
This is priceless. And who do you think Chechens are? Buddhists? And this guy is telling me "Before you talk, make sure you know what you're getting at". Like I said - priceless.
Nice try, but you know I'm referencing Muslim extremist groups (the topic at hand). Terrorist attack =/= Muslim extremist terrorist attack. Half of those on the 2011 list are non-Muslims, and 1/4 are acts of war. And I don't think a single Somali man running at someone with an axe is a terrorist attack.
I mentioned them as being Christians...
I thought the topic at hand was the TSA pedobearing a little girl?Show Image(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/4/40/Pedobear_stephanie_sex.gif/180px-Pedobear_stephanie_sex.gif)
I thought the topic at hand was the TSA pedobearing a little girl?Show Image(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/4/40/Pedobear_stephanie_sex.gif/180px-Pedobear_stephanie_sex.gif)
Anyway, if you actually read the list you'd see that NEARLY ALL the attacks listed were by Muslims. That's pretty interesting. Although, Islam is one of the least tolerant and most popular religions today, so it's not exactly surprising.
You are truly hilarious!
Even after my post you didn't bother to look up who Chechens are?
You are obsessed with me.
Maybe .XL and RiGS went to the same school?
In any case, RiGS' opinions about the USA probably are mostly due to a lack of education. I've noticed in many discussions with Europeans over the years that the value and strength of U.S. History and Government education in Europe varies GREATLY from country to country. I took AP U.S. History and Government in high school so I'm pretty knowledgeable in this domain (not to toot my own horn or anything).
For the most part, Europeans who claim Americans know more about their own country/continent than anywhere else - are usually in the exact same boat.
Born and raised in the US, my friend. Most other countries really dislike us not because they don't understand us, but because they don't like our arrogance and how we decide to bully around anyone we please.
the whole 'all chechens are muslims' thing is a myth made by the russian government.
No, it's because they don't understand us. And we don't understand them.
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wow...
neo, you are not alone. I am pretty much in awe at this point.
.XL, no, Nick shows programs from other countries as well. "Lazy Town" is Icelandic. I thought you said you were all smart and stuff?
I agree with you. Islam is very intolerant, and another worthless religion along the lines of Christianity, Judaism, et al, that preach their own and hate on others.
Did you even read the wikipedia pages? the majority of attacks on there were by muslim extremists.
I'll make it easier for you - there's a column on the page called "Perpetrator". Start there and then scroll down. The majority are either "Al Quaeda" or "Taliban".
Did you know that Wikipedia is written by occasional, and sometimes incompetent contributors?
Your intolerance of religions period only further shows your ignorance. I, and most of the people I know and am related to are Christians. We are ALL very tolerant of other people and religions and we don't "Hate" on others or "preach" at all. Get a clue, dude.
Same goes for GeekHack posts. At least Wikipedia writers USUALLY cite their sources.
Here's a link to the page's references (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2011#References).
Yes, wow. Did you not know this? Let me also fill you in...not all Iranians are Muslims. Not all Afghanis are Muslims. There's a group of them that actually believe in the Gods of Olympus! TIL, huh?
Intolerance of religions? Really? Where did I show that in any of my posts? I have no issue with any religion, nationality, race, or creed.
I agree with you. Islam is very intolerant, and another worthless religion along the lines of Christianity, Judaism, et al, that preach their own and hate on others.
****in' logic, how does it work??
So this is going to be your defense? Seriously?
As long a you can find a single non-Muslim Chechen, the fact that absolute majority of them are Muslims and have been Muslims since 15th century isn't going to matter anymore?
You showed it here:
Saying these religions are "worthless" shows that you don't "tolerate" them.
****in' logic, how does it work??
ANYWAY, getting back on topic...
LOL, you think all eastern europeans look alike? Now THAT's racist!
Personally I have a thing for Romanian girls. Hottest girls in the best country in Eastern Europe!
Personally I have a thing for Romanian girls. Hottest girls in the best country in Eastern Europe!
LOL, you think all eastern europeans look alike? Now THAT's racist!
Personally I have a thing for Romanian girls. Hottest girls in the best country in Eastern Europe!
And they look nothing like Russian girls btw. Way hotter.
And they look nothing like Russian girls btw. Way hotter.
Yes, I was there in 2009. And they had paved roads Mr. SMARTY PANTS.
ALL I can say they are way hotter than German girls.
Personally I think Polish girls are the hottest in Europe.
I'll assume that was in Bucharest, and you didn't head out to the eastern border. Then you'd know what I mean.
I've never seen a good looking Polish girl. Enlighten me...
Ok you can assume what you want. I spent like 2 days in Bucharest. 4 weeks in and around Brasov. 2 days in a hotel on top of Bucegi. Sooo beautiful.
I've never seen a good looking Polish girl. Enlighten me...
I've personally met hot girls from both England and Germany, so I would say you are incorrect, sir. Again.
Hasn't this been posted here before?Show Image(http://verybadfrog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Meanwhile-in-Poland.jpg)
I already called dibs on the one on the right in a previous post. Just an FYI.
I've personally met hot girls from both England and Germany, so I would say you are incorrect, sir. Again.
That's fine, not interested in that one...
I spent a whole summer in Munich, and I didn't see any hot chicks there.
Me too! Moar hot chicks!Show Image(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Kjmb8zyeIEg/SGzWBCFe4UI/AAAAAAAACsg/NE5n-SyPVzc/s400/romanian-girl-02-500x378.jpg)
Yea, an atheist like you wouldn't be. Just playing the stereotype...
she is not hot!
There are all around like she in the bus station in hungary.
Now get back to boobs!
By the way, I did two years of Bible study. That's what turned me into an atheist. It's all just so...silly.Hey don't say such things. You will end up in hell! :D
In my humble opinion, the highest density of hot women in the world is in Brazil.
Hey don't say such things. You will end up in hell! :D
As long as I'm not wherever you guys are, that's cool with me. I'll be chillin' with the Christian Romanian babes. =)
I wish you luck in finding ANY girl.
Okay, lets run with that. The majority of Chechnyans (from Chechnya) are Muslim. Got it. Now, do you think you would be able to tell the Chechen Muslims apart from a Russian, Eastern European, or Balkan person? I've been looking at pictures on Google and as far as I can tell, if they're not wearing their taqiyah and do not have the imam-sized beard, they look like Russians. One of the guys even looks a bit like me...
Should I start getting stopped at checkpoints now?
QFT. I want to go to Carnival...
I don't see how this is relevant, but Chechens visually are VERY different from Russians. There are always exceptions of course (some of them aren't even Muslim, hehe) but most Chechens along with other people of Caucasus look distinctly different from Russians and other Slavic people.
But again, how is this relevant?
Are you saying there is no way to tell a Muslim from a non-Muslim? It turns out in reality it's quite easy to tell most of the time. For example, all 9/11 hijackers were carrying their Saudi Arabian, United Arab Emirates, etc. passports. I think someone with passport issued in Chechnya should be checked more vigorously than a six years old American girl. That's all.
Is the crime so bad that you discourage visiting?
I hope Ron Paul gets elected, then I will visit you guys.
Don't go by yourself unless you are fluent in Portuguese and gifted for staying out of troubles. If you go with a group, stay in the pack.
You need to blend in. Try not to look like a "rich" tourist.
I learned a new word while I was there - "quicknappings"
And this is no power nap. Google it up.
You must go prepared and educated about local risks.
Thanks for the advice. Romanian is pretty similar to Portuguese so I could probably get away by speaking that in an emergency (I'm pretty proficient in it). I tend to be pretty good at blending for the most part. We'll see if I actually go...
I have Romanian friends, they prefer the Hungarian language when they speak with each other.
You're better off speaking English in that case...they'll look at you like you're crazy if you try and throw some Romanian at them.
However I find it strange that you like him, given your fascistic political leanings.
I guess it's possible that they "technically" speak the language better. But Romanian isn't a very technical language. In fact, some sentences make it sound like a little kid's made-up sing-song language.
It's an easy language to rhyme, which is partly why I like Romanian rap music.
Should be stop whoever looks Chechnyan because of what some Chechnyans do? More importantly, should be stop all Arabs because of the acts of some extremist muslims?
I like Romanian house/trance. Edward Maya, Matthias, even Akcent, all live in Greece now though.
You seem to misunderstand the whole purpose of security checks at the airports. This is not a punishment. Whatever the reason someone is flagged for more vigorous check, he is NOT being accused of anything and he is NOT being punished for anything. In the absence of specific intelligence, the most efficient method of allocating inherently limited resources is to prioritize passengers according to ANY statistically significant characteristic. For example, based on numerous past incidents, and OPENLY MADE threats of future attacks, people who are Arabs and/or Muslims are much more likely to try to blow up or hijack the plane than people who are not Arabs and/or Muslims. This is a statistical fact, not an accusation of any particular Arab or Muslim.
I'll give you another example. If there was a murder and witnesses say the perpetrator was black, would it be okay for police to only detain for questioning black people found in the vicinity, or would you like the police to detain white people as well in order to avoid "racial profiling"? In our case, the future perpetrators themselves are openly threatening to attack us again, just as they did before. And the people saying this are not hiding the fact that they are Arabs and Muslims. Why the hell would we check everyone else equally? Because otherwise we would heart the feelings of innocent Arabs and Muslims? How about the feelings of innocent blacks in my example? Yet you think in that case it's okay...
It seems we've both misunderstood the other then. I was not talking specifically about racial profiling and making everyone feel equal except for my last post to you. My main issue is the fact that this is only security theater, and they have never stopped an actual terrorist from boarding a plane. It does not actually make anyone safer; it's a gross waste of money with nothing to show for it.
I went to Boston this past weekend. On the way up I left BWI at 655. At 6am in the security line I had to wait nearly an hour with maybe 6 or 7 security lanes open. They were putting many people through the scans; black, white, asian - the only Arab guy there walked right through the metal detector while I, a US citizen from birth, went through the scanner. I was escorting a Chinese exchange student with a passport from China who was sent through the metal detector while I had to go through the scanner. They're not targetting the statistically significant people or whatever you like to call them, they're targeting everyone.
On my way back, the same happened, except for the fact that the metal detector was not being used and EVERYONE was being sent through the scanner. A line of 5 people turned into a 15 minute wait. Why is that even necessary? This mother had her and her 12-ish year old daughter opt out because she 'didn't want any man looking at naked pictures' of her daughter. Personally, I think that's a bit silly, but at least she didn't videotape it (having your 6 year old daughter get a pat down just so you can videotape it is wrong, IMO).
I don't like the scanners. You may like them and think they're doing a fine job. Truth is they haven't changed anything except make lines longer and make people feel uncomfortable; the TSA haven't stopped any security threats except for soccer moms with tweezers in their bags.
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I agree with you there. The TSA is grossly inefficient, one of the main reasons being - they are not allowed to use by far the most efficient tool available under the circumstances - racial profiling.
I really don't think it would benefit them at all. Especially not when anything brought into an airport from anywhere but the front door is barely ever checked. Not to mention that people can pass many different things through the scanners that metal detectors would find. Such as guns. Undercover TSA official walked right through the scanner multiple times with a gun in her bra and no one took notice.
Why can't we use something like the Israeli method? We would be able to cut excess jobs, refrain from buying more scanners, and have a more efficient way of spotting would-be wrongdoers. It's worked very well for them, and IIRC an article I had read mentioned Israeli airport security thought our methods were unnecessary. They were willing to come teach our TSA how to find the bad guys through observation, allowing the security process to be much more streamlined and much more effective. It may be easy to pass something through the scanner but not so easy to act normal for several hours before boarding your plane.
So why, I asked, are we still allowed to board airplanes at Ben-Gurion International Airport with bottles and tubes of liquid brought from home, while in Heathrow or JFK they confiscate our face cream and toothpaste?
"Oh, that's simple," he answered matter of factly. "We use racial profiling, they don't."
But this is exactly what I was saying. You couldn't possibly make the Israeli system work if you were required to spend equal amount of resources checking every passenger.
I found an article on this subject: israel-racial-profiling (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/in-israel-racial-profiling-doesn-t-warrant-debate-or-apologies-1.261075)
It's a shame the US has many more crazies than just extremist Muslims that stick out like a sore thumb, or else we'd be able to have a very simple airport experience.
Your point on racial profiling makes sense and I do agree that it IS the best way, though not morally 'correct' from a 'racial equality' standpoint. In the lists /KL posted earlier, the majority of 'terrorist' attacks taking place on US soil are the works of white Americans. You can't really racially profile them, it'd cost too much to hire enough people to follow every white person in every airport.
But most white American terrorists were lone nutcases with specific grudge and specific target, historically not very interested in planes. The craziness at the airports started after 9/11, trying to defend against another attack like 9/11, where the terrorists are well organized Arab Muslims seeking to attack America in general and for some reason obsessed with planes. Racial profiling would work very well against such threat.
The plane thing worked well once, I doubt they'd try it again. The cases where a single nutcase gets on a plane and burns his balls off is really just one, maybe two, working together...it's not the concerted efforts of a whole group.
They're not stupid, they'd probably try something else. Hit another target. The biggest reason to get underwear bombers and other crazies on planes is to keep the population of the US scared so travel keeps decreasing and people are willing to allow things like full body scanners to come into play.
I found this refreshing... Glad not all americans think alike.Well, while most Americans don't want to cause needless trouble to people who just happen to have ancestry from a part of the world where Islam is the religion - most Americans also want to be as safe from terrorism as they thought they were before September 11, 2001 - and to pay no part of the cost of achieving that goal, whether in their liberties, their convenience, their comfort, or their taxes.
...but "Transylvanians" can mean Romanians, Hungarians or Germans (Saxon lineage). Which are you referring to?
this thread and they way it went is just hilarious.
In the past they used to scare people with the communist threat, now it's the terrorists. Fear is the best method of control and submission.
In the past they used to scare people with the communist threat, now it's the terrorists. Fear is the best method of control and submission.
A small team of snipers could kill more people than those "Islam radical terrorists".
A (relatively) small meteorite could kill every person on the planet. How is this relevant?
All true, but it doesn't change the fact that both the communist threat was, and the terrorist threat is very real.
How is that a 'fact' ?
You think Korean or Vietnamese commie-peasants wanted to invade the USA and therefore the yanks had to defend themselves ?
You think the USSR was actually capable of (or had the moral to) invading anything but small miniput countries after loosing 20-30 million citizens in the fight to crush Hitlers Bush-financed armies ?
Anyway, good thing the Russians didn't discover that Pentagon doesn't have any AA-defence ..
I thought it was Vodka?
Sure, the only valid source of information is the Bible.
Russians occupied half of Europe and the ONLY thing stopped them from occupying the whole Europe was US army.
The US fought that war on their own? My history teachers have a lot of answering to do! :D
You weren't talking about the cold war? Then please accept my apologies.
No, I wasn't talking about the cold war, I was talking about 1945.
And I never said they fought on their own.
I don't know didn't seem to be much help for us in WW2...
I don't know didn't seem to be much help for us in WW2...
I don't know didn't seem to be much help for us in WW2...
Incredible as it sounds, countries tend not to provide much wartime assistance to others fighting alongside their enemies against their allies.
So, USA helped the communism in Europe in WW2?
Off-topic galore...
What else do you expect from masters of thread derailing? :-)
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Rule of geekhack.
Not sure, don't care to make analyze on average amount to derail and absolute amount needed to derail thread...
Not sure, don't care to make analyze on average amount to derail and absolute amount needed to derail thread...
It's actually pretty easy.
Hey look, hot chicks!
If we've got limited resources to spend on security, we shouldn't be wasting them on security theater and expensive equipment that doesn't even work
Are you a complete moron? Do you realize Benjamin Franklin lived in the 1700s? Times change.
In this day and age, it is sad, but we need to be aware and protect our nation against terrorism. You're just someone that needs to whine about everything including undergoing a patdown.
Don't flatter yourself, you're not being picked out from the crowd because you're so good looking someone wants to feel you up.
I'm going to ... Prague in July/Aug...
Terrorism needs to be stopped and prevented as much as possible...but not at the cost of the privacy and freedom of every living thing in thouse threatened countries.
I like images… I used a boxer, getting punched in the guts while protecting his face.
The Patriot Act is brazilion times more intrusive than frisking a little girl.
Hah, I forgot The Jesus was in that movie.
Here's me and PandaR.Show Image(http://www.moviecritic.com.au/userimages/user624_1155099753.gif)
Lol. A Hungarian complaining about the Federal Reserve Act.
As if Hungary has a healthy economy.
You used a bad word.
Against forum rules.
To paraphrase your example, we are the boxer who is trying to defend equally against the opponent and the referee (6 year old American girl). What if the referee would also try to hit me? I better spend equal amount of resources protecting from referee and the opponent...
I don't care unless it backed with real value.
I meant natural resources, or food.
I found a video of keyboardlover and rigs
I don't get it...
Hi folks.
In Spain we got ourselves our own 9-11: they ****ed us hard, in the center of the Nation: they blew us up. Nobody could have ever see any of that coming, NEVER. And you see, the thing that saddens me the most is that, to this day, we don't have a clue about who did it. Most of the people that were arrested have been released because there is just no ****ing evidence to support nothing. Who did it? How? Why? We will probably never know, ever.
It still gives me the creeps the fact that stuff disappeared and appeared while being into police custody: some of the explosive bags that didn't detonate that day were transported by police, to a police station. Well, a day after, there was an extra bag. Nobody knows who the **** it got there, who put it there..nothing.
I'm gonna climb over that anger wall of RiGS' one of these days.
And it's going to be glorious.
RiGS is a senior troll and has only been a member for a few months. Huzzah?
Anyway, the Spanish train-bombs weren't planted by Al-Cracker, it was the ETA .. Your PM said so !!
Arrogant complaining about airport security is one indicator Transportation Security Administration officers consider when looking for possible criminals and terrorists, CNN has learned exclusively. And, when combined with other behavioral indicators, it could result in a traveler facing additional scrutiny.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15/tsa.screeners.complain/ (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15/tsa.screeners.complain/)
This is outrageous!
Speaking of Vlad - this is my favorite license plate EVAH!
Someone tell me if it's worth clicking on the video.
Live footage? Re-enactment?
I get along with everybody on the Internet.
This trackball DPI measurement data collecting thing is going along well.
I get along with everybody on the Internet.
This trackball DPI measurement data collecting thing is going along well.
In the video below, the former beauty queen who held the Miss America title in 2003, Susie Castillo, says a TSA “screener” fondled her vagina during an intrusive pat-down.
What a job!
So sad, she's trying to stay relevant! horrible video don't click, so boring!
I gotta start going to the airport more often. I'd get more guruishy handjobs than my Filco's switches!
Lmao
2- You have some extreme PE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premature_ejaculation) problems
Vote Ron Paul! End the tyranny!*
*if you're white. and a man.
Do Black Americans consider TSA Pat-downs as a necessary?
BTW who IS Ron Paul?
And why does he grope 6 year old girls?
Oh wait, he's a MD.
He is a Champion of the Constitution and Defender of Liberty since 1963.