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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #700 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:00:34 »
I wish I still had my 15 units... but I used it to stir some paint then threw it out LOL.

ROFL! Hilarious post is hilarious... I'd like to see one on a GH60

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #701 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:12:29 »
Entire bottom row, 1 keycap... problem?

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #702 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:20:59 »
This one is for Ron (and other 10x spacebar fans), again, just fictional...

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WFD, the spacebar stem locations on my 6x and 10x plates are correct. I can send you the drawings if you like.


What is outboard of that bar? 1.25 x 2 on each side? 1.50?

[edit] Oh. 10 + (1.25 x 4) = 15. Got it. [/edit]
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #703 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:21:38 »
Exactly, one keycap for bottom row lol. No problems :)

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #704 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:27:22 »
Would it be possible instead to make it either 1-1.5-10-1.5-1 or 1.5-1-10-1-1.5?

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #705 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:34:03 »
What is outboard of that bar? 1.25 x 2 on each side? 1.50?

[edit] Oh. 10 + (1.25 x 4) = 15. Got it. [/edit]

Actually, those are 1.5-1-10-1-1.5


Would it be possible instead to make it either 1-1.5-10-1.5-1 or 1.5-1-10-1-1.5?
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #706 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:37:46 »
Mmm, yes.

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« Reply #707 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 21:59:55 »
Jd just wanted to make sure you got my PM.  When I sent it I had spotty 4G and the PM system doesn't seem to log my sent messages. No rush for an answer though, I know your busy.  Just wanted to be sure the damned thing actually sent.

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« Reply #709 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 22:20:11 »
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« Reply #710 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 22:22:47 »
Jd just wanted to make sure you got my PM.  When I sent it I had spotty 4G and the PM system doesn't seem to log my sent messages. No rush for an answer though, I know your busy.  Just wanted to be sure the damned thing actually sent.

Yes, I got your PM, but I hadn't replied until just now. Sorry it took so long, but thanks for reminding me. :)
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #711 on: Fri, 05 April 2013, 22:31:06 »
I am a fan of the 10x space bar too. I thought some of my old WYSE space bars were 10x, but, upon inspection, it appears they may be 9.75x? I took some pics and lined up the left edge with the left edge of the A key. The right edge was just a little shy of lining up with the ;: key. I guess it would still work with just a slight gap on either side (0.125 units)?


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Also, Pics of space bars: Top to Bottom: 6.25x from WYSE moogle, 6.25x universal from SP, 7x from WYSE tsangan set, and 9.75x/10x? from WYSE terminal board

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EDIT: I was thinking about doing a stem mod on the 10x to make the stabilizer locations match the ones for the 7x. But I would consider a dedicated plate for this, depending on price increase. And I think you could make the rest of the plate match the universal layout, that way we still would have options for the other switch locations/layouts. Just a thought.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #713 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 00:59:45 »
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I am a fan of the 10x space bar too. I thought some of my old WYSE space bars were 10x, but, upon inspection, it appears they may be 9.75x? I took some pics and lined up the left edge with the left edge of the A key. The right edge was just a little shy of lining up with the ;: key. I guess it would still work with just a slight gap on either side (0.125 units)?

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Also, Pics of space bars: Top to Bottom: 6.25x from WYSE moogle, 6.25x universal from SP, 7x from WYSE tsangan set, and 9.75x/10x? from WYSE terminal board
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Wow thanks for pics. I'll look into this.



WFD, the spacebar stem locations on my 6x and 10x plates are correct. I can send you the drawings if you like.

I just got your email for the spacebar sizes. Haven't looked at it yet, but for the 10x size, how did you know the outside stem positions for the stabilizers? Was this something you measured or calculated? If it's calculated or you got it from a schematic somewhere, then it'll be more exact than something that was physically measured.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #714 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 04:22:15 »
^DT wiki says they're 3.5x in from the edges, at least on that one lysol posted.

Also, I think I agree with wt about the rest being universal to allow for some fun in layouts.

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #715 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 12:49:47 »
The Cherry MX data sheet gives the "A" dimension for 10x space bars, same as 8x... 5.25"

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #716 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 12:54:39 »

I have 1 or 2 (can't remember) 6.0-unit spacebars in DSA profile coming from the DSA Retro GB.


Beware.  I was excited about the 6x space in the DSA groupbuy because my board uses 6x.  But according to that thread they don't use the offcenter switch from Cherry boards, but instead a crazy center stemmed thing that doesn't fit anything.

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #717 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:01:18 »
What is outboard of that bar? 1.25 x 2 on each side? 1.50?

[edit] Oh. 10 + (1.25 x 4) = 15. Got it. [/edit]

Actually, those are 1.5-1-10-1-1.5


Would it be possible instead to make it either 1-1.5-10-1.5-1 or 1.5-1-10-1-1.5?


The answer to the second question was too subtle for me.  Could you elaborate, please?
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #718 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:04:05 »
Looking at some of the terminal boards, some have 1-1.5-10-1.5-1 as Left - Mod - Space - Mod2 - Right.

And then the 2.75 R_Shift is split into 1.75-1 as R_Shift - Up.

That would make a coolio retro GH60.

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« Reply #719 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:11:40 »
No, the PCB doesn't have switch locations for 1x keys on the ends. Sorry. :(
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #720 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:12:13 »
Looking at some of the terminal boards, some have 1-1.5-10-1.5-1 as Left - Mod - Space - Mod2 - Right.

And then the 2.75 R_Shift is split into 1.75-1 as R_Shift - Up.

That would make a coolio retro GH60.

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[edit] Sadly, according to the GH60 Layout Master, it has to be 1.5-1-10-1-1.5. [/edit]
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« Reply #721 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:13:47 »
The Cherry MX data sheet gives the "A" dimension for 10x space bars, same as 8x... 5.25"

I measured mine and used that dimension...5.25"

Meaning the measurement from the center stem to each outboard stem is 66.675 mm as calculated by me.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #722 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 13:18:19 »
No, the PCB doesn't have switch locations for 1x keys on the ends. Sorry. :(

I see that now that I am on my workstation instead of my dang tablet.

Looks like 1.5-1-10-1-1.5 and 1.25-1.25-10-1.25-1.25 are both supported.

Can you send me the DWG file for the imaginary plate?  I might play with it for imaginary use with old WYSE terminal keycap sets and the GH60.

Thanks very much!

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p.s.  Everyone should measure their 10x lengths and stem spacing and post that info along with the spacebar's provenance.  I will do just that.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #723 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:25:10 »
Man I wish the order form wasn't so confusing, I feel like I am going to **** up and forget something. Also, sorry if this has already been asked, if we pay for assembly, do you solder on the switches? I am looking to basically buy a completed keyboard and not have to do any soldering.
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« Reply #724 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:30:22 »
What's so confusing about it? You get a PCB and choose a plate. Switches and stabilizers are optional. The assembly will get you an almost complete keyboard, you'll still need to get a case and USB cable. But if you choose the assembly option, you'll obviously have to order switches and stablizers too, unless you send those in.

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« Reply #725 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:31:21 »
Man I wish the order form wasn't so confusing, I feel like I am going to **** up and forget something. Also, sorry if this has already been asked, if we pay for assembly, do you solder on the switches? I am looking to basically buy a completed keyboard and not have to do any soldering.

If you mess up we can help you fix it. If you buy the GH60 PCB (SMD presoldered), plate (optional), stabilizers, switches, and assembly service, you will receive a complete keyboard, without a case or USB cable.
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« Reply #726 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:34:26 »
Ok thanks, gonna try to get my order in when I get home.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #727 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:34:52 »
have a question regarding the GH60...

i noticed the switches for the bottom row are mounted at 90degrees. i wonder how standard keycaps would fit

if im not wrong, the horizontal and vertical axes of the stem have different widths. meaning keycaps can only be mounted the right way/rotated 180degrees and doesnt allow it to be installed at 90degrees  :confused:

correct me if im wrong  :-X

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« Reply #728 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:36:15 »
have a question regarding the GH60...

i noticed the switches for the bottom row are mounted at 90degrees. i wonder how standard keycaps would fit

if im not wrong, the horizontal and vertical axes of the stem have different widths. meaning keycaps can only be mounted the right way/rotated 180degrees and doesnt allow it to be installed at 90degrees  :confused:

correct me if im wrong  :-X

All switches (except ISO Enter) in the final PCB revision will be rotated either 0 or 180 degrees.

You can install keycaps on 90 degree rotated switches. See my "Post Your GH60" thread...
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #729 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:37:37 »
Cancelled my order.

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #730 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:44:41 »
opps seems like i jumped the gun  :-[

i tried fitting it on 90degrees and the keycaps do fit in though it does take a bit more strength to get the cap on.

thanks for the clarification :D

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« Reply #731 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 14:48:00 »
^DT wiki says they're 3.5x in from the edges, at least on that one lysol posted.
The Cherry MX data sheet gives the "A" dimension for 10x space bars, same as 8x... 5.25"

Can you point me to the link? The I can't find the datasheet for offset 6x, 6.25x, and 10x spacebars. The only one I found is this one:

http://cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm

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« Reply #732 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:05:34 »
Submitted order.  Hopefully I got everything I need.

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« Reply #733 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:13:00 »
Ok here's a new flexible plate so far. It will work with 10x, as well as some weird 8x and 9x spacebars. It supports both 1.5x and 1.25x modifiers if you're using a 10x spacebar. Obviously the inside switch slots will be covered up by the spacebar if you're using a 10x size. Those inner switch slots next to the stabilizer slots are there if you're somehow using a 8x or 9x size, but I'm not sure if the PCB has proper spacing for the correct keycap sizes there. Those two extras switch holes are there just in case.

With this, you MUST use plate-mounted cherry stabilizers for the spacebar. Costar is not option because making the wire for it will be a pain the ass. PCB-mounted stabilizers is not an option because the PCB does not have holes there. The rest of smaller stabilizers must use PCB-mounted cherry to keep the flexibility of layouts.

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^DT wiki says they're 3.5x in from the edges
Based on this 3.5x unit and cherry's 5.25" distances apart, the numbers match up to 2.625" distance from switch center to one stabilizer center, so that's how I made the plate. It should be correct. I'm still looking into the offset spacebars.

Btw "3.5x unit in" is not from the edge of the spacebar. It's from the center space between the spacebar and the adjacent key.

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #734 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:42:44 »
Will this do 1.5 - 1 - 10 - 1 - 1.5 ?

Thanks!

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« Reply #735 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 16:51:39 »
1.5 - 1 - 10 - 1 - 1.5

1.25 - 1.25 - 10 - 1.25 - 1.25

These both work for 10x spacebar size, supported by the plate and PCB.

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« Reply #736 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 17:01:33 »
^DT wiki says they're 3.5x in from the edges, at least on that one lysol posted.
The Cherry MX data sheet gives the "A" dimension for 10x space bars, same as 8x... 5.25"

Can you point me to the link? The I can't find the datasheet for offset 6x, 6.25x, and 10x spacebars. The only one I found is this one:

http://cherrycorp.com/english/switches/key/mx.htm

That's the link.  Doesn't have 6x or 6.25x, but it has 10x.  Never heard of off-center 10x.

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #737 on: Sat, 06 April 2013, 21:58:50 »
Regarding a few of the "confusing order form" posts, I think much of the form assumes that the user understands what a plate and stabilizers are and a bit about the difference between the stabilizers.  In fact, some newish users don't know anything except basic switch color differences and that it's a cool looking "custom" keyboard.  (I know this because 2 different non-keyboard-nut friends of mine have asked me to help them order this GB!)  I'm not saying you need to address this, but it probably does explain people being confused.  If you understand the basic components of a keyboard and how they fit together, then it's not at all.

Perhaps a couple "pre built" options for popular configs?  Or just add a few dumbed down topics to the OP to explain what's what. (or link to it)  Just a thought. :)
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #738 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 12:37:22 »
I have one last question before ordering, I assume only standard MX switches are available?
As in no ergo-clears on buying this?
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« Reply #739 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 12:40:16 »
I have one last question before ordering, I assume only standard MX switches are available?
As in no ergo-clears on buying this?

You assume correctly.

If you wanted ergo-clears, you would have to buy clears, plus the same amount of either blues, reds, or browns. Then contract with someone outside of the GB to assemble for you, as that would not be covered in standard assembly.
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« Reply #740 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 12:47:24 »
I have one last question before ordering, I assume only standard MX switches are available?
As in no ergo-clears on buying this?

You assume correctly.

If you wanted ergo-clears, you would have to buy clears, plus the same amount of either blues, reds, or browns. Then contract with someone outside of the GB to assemble for you, as that would not be covered in standard assembly.
I will just buy korean springs later on and switch them out myself since the plates allow for easy top removal.
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« Reply #741 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 12:49:18 »
I have one last question before ordering, I assume only standard MX switches are available?
As in no ergo-clears on buying this?

You assume correctly.

If you wanted ergo-clears, you would have to buy clears, plus the same amount of either blues, reds, or browns. Then contract with someone outside of the GB to assemble for you, as that would not be covered in standard assembly.
I will just buy korean springs later on and switch them out myself since the plates allow for easy top removal.

Good idea! :D
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« Reply #742 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 13:10:50 »
This may be a silly question, but will the "Poker" style plate from this GB work with an actual Poker PCB?
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« Reply #743 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 13:13:31 »
This may be a silly question, but will the "Poker" style plate from this GB work with an actual Poker PCB?

Yes, it will! :D
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #744 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 14:50:27 »
Just sent my order in. I hope I got it all right. I'm kinda nervous, since it's my first GB ;D

I'll be watching out for cases over the summer. Some of those projects look really nice!

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #745 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 14:56:53 »
This may be a silly question, but will the "Poker" style plate from this GB work with an actual Poker PCB?

Yes, it will! :D

So by that logic, the Pure plate will work on Pures right? :D

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #746 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 15:02:37 »
A ridiculously large 10x spacebar in a compact keyboard. I like this contrast of an oversized key in a small form factor. It's on the plate I just posted above.

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So by that logic, the Pure plate will work on Pures right? :D

Yes, will fit Pure and the stock case perfectly.

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #747 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 15:04:40 »
That thing looks crazy! I'd type dat.
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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #748 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 15:12:30 »
A ridiculously large 10x spacebar in a compact keyboard. I like this contrast of an oversized key in a small form factor. It's on the plate I just posted above.

If only I had a 10x spacebar... I'm going to be kicking it old fashioned 7x space bar normal HHKB style.

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Re: GH60 Group Buy
« Reply #749 on: Sun, 07 April 2013, 16:18:31 »
Ok here's a new flexible plate so far. It will work with 10x, as well as some weird 8x and 9x spacebars. It supports both 1.5x and 1.25x modifiers if you're using a 10x spacebar. Obviously the inside switch slots will be covered up by the spacebar if you're using a 10x size. Those inner switch slots next to the stabilizer slots are there if you're somehow using a 8x or 9x size, but I'm not sure if the PCB has proper spacing for the correct keycap sizes there. Those two extras switch holes are there just in case.

With this, you MUST use plate-mounted cherry stabilizers for the spacebar. Costar is not option because making the wire for it will be a pain the ass. PCB-mounted stabilizers is not an option because the PCB does not have holes there. The rest of smaller stabilizers must use PCB-mounted cherry to keep the flexibility of layouts.

This is awesome! I like it! Do you think it would be possible to add cutouts for a 7x spacebar to this plate also? That way you have just a little more compatibility?
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