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upas:
The Cerberus FRL TKL Keyboard








Hey everyone,

You might have seen the IC for my new keyboard called Cerberus. It's now ready to enter GB and I'd like to share some GB details - as well as a summary of the keyboard elements for those who might have missed the IC! It’s an FRL TKL keyboard that uses single-sided gasket mounting.






I'll start with the GB details up here, and share more details below.

Group Buy Details
The group buy for Cerberus will run from October 25th, 2024 - November 17th, 2024 with a price starting at just $285!

This actually beats our initial price target of $300 - thank you to those of you who filled out the IC! We priced at an MOQ of 150 based on IC responses - so we really hope that those who expressed interest can manage to buy it during the GB dates.

Ship ETA: Q2 2025

TL;DR Keyboard Details
Cerberus is an FRL TKL with single-sided gasket mounting.
Gaskets sit between the plate and bottom case
The plate touches the top case to provide acoustics similar to a top  mount keyboard.
It feels good to type on and sounds good
It looks cool
The eyes on the top Cerberus engraving glow with RGB lights
Super cool Cerberus shaped crest on the bottom
8 part case not including the plate
Designed to support wireless (as an addon)
$285 Starting MSRP

PCB Details
QMK and VIA compatible PCB (wired) w/ STM32 Microcontroller
Both hotswap and solderable will be available
ZMK compatible PCB (wireless) w/ nrf52 Microcontroller (ZMK Studio soon)
Only hotswap for wireless
S1 Unified Daughterboard (it will use Molex Pico EzMate)
All PCBs will feature ESD protection
Single color backlight support on the solderable PCB only
RGB Daughterboard for glowing eyes

Layout support is as follows:
Hotswap Wired QMK:
7U and 6.25U bottom row support
Normal and Stepped Caps
Split and Full R shift
No ISO
Split and Normal BS

Solderable Wired QMK:
7U and 6.25U bottom row support
Normal and Stepped Caps
Split and Full R Shift
ISO Support (Split and full L shift, ISO enter)
Split and Normal BS

Hotswap Wireless ZMK:
7U bottom row only
normal caps only
split and full r shift
ANSI enter only
split and normal BS


Other Things People Normally Ask About
Weight: 1400g built with PC Plate, Alu Bottom Weights
I'll get unbuilt weight very soon
Front height: ~17.75mm
Front height in the middle of the bottom row: ~20mm
Angle: 6.5 Degrees

Colors
So about 60% of all IC submissions said that they wanted to select their own colors on each part, and I tried to make this happen!
But this is actually tough for MOQ purposes and achieving as low of a price as we hope for. If we expected to sell thousands of these, I think it'd be a different story, but in 2024, we have to be realistic about what demand will probably look like.

With that in mind - we're relying on pre-set colorways for the most part. For those who want to go off the beaten path, we're offering all accent pieces as extras. We're also going to have a Google Form where customers can customize their colorway for a slight upcharge (but still way less cost than buying extra accents).

The colorways have different elements - and different associated prices as well.

Hades
Top and Bottom: Black
Sides and Crest: Burgundy
Bottom Weights: Dark Gold
Price: $285


Pluto
Top and Bottom: Blue-Purple
Sides and Crest: Gray
Bottom Weights: Dark Gray
Price: $285



The Depths
Top and Bottom: Navy
Sides and Crest: Light Blue
Bottom Weights: Silver
Price: $285


Designer's Choice
Top and Bottom: Dark Gray
Sides and Crest: Lilac
Bottom Weights: Silver
Price: $285


Ectoplasmic
Top and Bottom: Dark Gray
Sides and Crest: Ecto Green (Pantone 326C)
Bottom Weights: Black
Price: $285



Persephone
Top and Bottom: E-White
Sides and Crest: Rose Gold
Bottom Weights: Silver
Price: $295 due to E-white coating



Sleepy Hollow
Top and Bottom: Forest Green
Sides: Brass
Crest: Dark Gold
Bottom Weights: Brass
Price: $325 due to brass sides and bottom weights


Demonic
Top and Bottom: Black
Sides: PVD Black Steel
Crest: Black
Bottom Weights: PVD Black Steel
Price: $395 due to PVD Steel parts

(Note: this one will be limited quantity, since it's got PVD on it)

Other Extra Parts:
We'll be offering at least the following as extras:
Extra Hotswap PCB
Extra Solderable PCB
Extra Wireless PCB Kit (Battery included for US orders made from CannonKeys, unsure about international / vendors)
Extra Plates in FR4, Alu, PC, and CF (Alu is the default that will be included in every kit)
Daughterboard Kit (RGB DB, RGB DB Bleed stopping foam, S1 DB, all the cables you need)
Extra Sides (All alu colors, Brass, but NOT PVD)
Extra Bottom Accent Weights (All alu colors, brass, not pvd)
Extra Crest (All alu, no brass, no pvd)

Extra Gaskets
Extra Feet
Foam Dampening Kit (Plate foam and Case foam - personally I don't think it's necessary but it's been designed and prototyped and works, so if people like foamier sounds, it is available)
Extra Alignment Pins

Vendors
We're in the process of reaching out to different vendors to have international coverage.
I'll update this section as we know who the international vendors will be.

Only CannonKeys will offer the Google Form based color customization.



If you read the IC, the below section is mostly going to be review / stuff you've read before, but I'm including it here for those who might have missed the IC.

More Detailed Keyboard Details

The inspiration for this board came from a desire to highlight a mounting style that ai03 used on the Brutal v2 series, but hasn’t shown up in many other places - and also to make a “sequel” board to the two-side gasket / sandwich mounted Chimera65.


The Mounting Style

The Cerberus keyboard and Brutal v2 both use a single-sided gasket mounting structure, where only the bottom case has gaskets. The goal of this structure is to better mimic the sound of top mount keyboards, while also adding some of the benefits of gaskets.


In top mount keyboards, the plate is screwed into the top part of the keyboard, making plate-to-top contact, and does not touch the bottom part of the keyboard. On Cerberus, this plate-to-top contact is present due to the gaskets only existing under the plate, and the top case being designed to touch the top plate.



And by virtue of having gaskets under the plate, there is some bounce present when typing on the board, more similar to a Bakeneko or other gasket mounted board. This provides acoustic isolation between the plate and bottom case - eliminating a confounding factor in trying to achieve that top mount style sound.


The end result is a board that sounds as good as and also feels less stiff than a traditional top mount board (though, in my opinion, plate material will make the most difference in terms of perceived stiffness).



With that in mind - there are still some key differences in the mounting style of Cerberus and the Brutal v2 series. Primarily, the Cerberus covers far less surface area with gaskets than the Brutal v2 did. This results in more bounce, as there are fewer contact points where gaskets need to compress. But I believe the resulting sound is more similar to top mount - on usual top mount boards, the plate to top contact zones are not that large.


The Theme

Since this board is meant to be a bit of a sequel to Chimera - I picked another mythological creature as its theme. I didn’t want to make another Chimera-style board - like a ChimeraTKL or a Chimera75 (though, if people want that, please let me know) - I wanted it to be something new.


Cerberus is a three headed dog from Greek mythology who guarded the gates of Hades. So with the theme of Cerberus, I tried to design around the concept of three. Cerberus has three heads, so the board has three main accent pieces. There are two colored side pieces, and a bottom crest all sharing an accent color - for three accent pieces total. And when looking at the bottom of the board, there are three “weights” visible (two brass, one accent piece).




Finally, there’s an engraving of a Cerberus head on the top of the board above the arrow cluster. One piece of feedback I heard about Chimera is that people wished the engraving on the back of the board was mimicked on the front. So I tried to do that here. In addition, the eyes glow with RGB LEDs mounted behind them.


 

Other Design Considerations

The side profile of the board was designed to be aesthetically pleasing, while still giving users an easy way to pick up the board. One of my personal pet peeves is when a board is hard to pick up - and I try to avoid that in my designs. Many of my previous boards have featured Koala-like curves to enable this, but this time around, I went with a curved back.



For this board, I decided to include wireless functionality. It’s likely not going to be wireless by default, but I wanted to ensure that people who want a wireless board would have an option here for it. The interior of the case has a cavity to hold a battery, and when I tested a ZMK PCB that I designed for Cerberus with an FR4 plate, the wireless worked well. When using the wireless PCB, the RGB LEDs shining through the Cerberus’s eyes also double as status indicators - which I think is a neat little touch.


 

To reduce the acoustic impact of including this battery cavity, I also included an inner brass weight. This weight spans across the alphas on the board - which has been perceived by hobbyists in the past to improve the sound of the alphas as well. Personally, I do think it makes an impact which I consider an improvement, but if others prefer the sound without the inner weight, that’s totally valid as well.



I also wanted the Cerberus to sit low on a desk. It’s not the lowest keyboard ever designed, but the front of the keyboard is less than 18mm tall (as it sits on a desk), and the case is ~20mm tall at the middle of the first row of keys.The case has a 6.5 degree typing angle, to make it comfortable for most people.


As a result of the design decision to make the keyboard sit low - including three external weights was non-trivial. Parts of the bottom case are entirely cut out to ensure the weights have space to mount. But the acoustic impacts of these cutouts are mitigated by the inner brass weight covering.


There are 4 POM alignment pins included in each unit to help ensure the plate stays centered. The current mounting style does compress the bottom gaskets (which are quite soft) a little, but does not provide nearly enough compression to lock the plate in place. I also don’t use screws to keep the plate in place as you would if you were making a top mount board - so I chose to use alignment pins. I drew inspiration from the Moment keyboard designed by jjw - this was also a single-sided gasket mounted board, with the key difference being that the top case did not touch the plate.



Finally - I wanted to design this board to be price accessible. One of the key reasons why I chose to use an inner weight and three external weights instead of relying on a through weight was to keep costs down. This is a bit counterintuitive - how can more parts be cheaper than one part? But the external weight and inner weight can all be machined from flat stock. Through weights typically have angled features, requiring extra machine time which drives up the cost of keyboards. The inner weight also solved other design problems as well, making the choice even easier.


The Small Details

To provide even compression across the gaskets, and also keep the back curve present on the board, I had to use “internal” screws. There are four screws on the bottom of the board that are necessary to keep the top and bottom case parts together - but there are also 6 screws under the keycaps. The screws that we’ll include for Cerberus will be black screws - at least for these 6 spots - so that the chances of noticing the screws under your keycaps in day to day use is minimized.



And about the four screws on the bottom of the board - we’ve created molded rubber feet to cover where they sit. If you look at the bottom of the board once fully assembled, you won’t see screw holes. I may modify these to round out the edges to make them less noticeable.



Hearing feedback on prior projects about the big Cannon logo being a polarizing feature - I’ve decided to move it to above the USB port for Cerberus. It’s much smaller than it was on a board like Chimera or Balance, and much easier to ignore now if you aren’t a huge fan of it.


The side accent pieces have a small chamfer where they meet the top and bottom cases - which also share this small chamfer. This little design element helps further provide separation between the accent pieces and the top and bottom cases. The top and bottom cases are designed to look seamless.


And the USB port is centered on the back of the board, and features a little hood. This should cover most of the metal bits on most USB cables, so your board will look sleek when used.


I’ve also added little cutouts for force-break specific gaskets.The idea behind force breaking is to break the metal on metal contact of the top case with the bottom case. In my testing, I used soft poron for force breaking, which did make a small change in acoustics. I believe the board already sounds good without force breaking - but this is an extra way that people can tune their boards to match their preference.

 


I used the same cutouts and gaskets to also provide force-breaking between the plate and top case. Personally, I preferred the acoustics of the board without these installed. Installing them removes the plate-to-top contact which helps the board mimic top-mount acoustics. But they are also there for those who want to experiment and tune their board, or simply prefer a more isolated sound.

Thanks!
Upas

More Photos
Much thanks to anaolivetree for grabbing most of these




And even more here in this album

upas:
The GB is live now!
Sadly the Demonic colorway has sold out, but all others are still available.

You can buy it here:
https://cannonkeys.com/products/cerberus

We also have international vendors:
UK - Prototypist
OCE - KeebzNCables
KR - SwagKeys
EU - KEYGEM
LATAM - LatamKeys
CN - zFrontier
SG - Ktechs

Minisofu:
Good luck with GB !!!!!

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