Post by: Skok on Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:06:18
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PRICING
Standard USD $119.99
Novelty USD $44.99
Aesthetic USD $29.99
Alternate USD $39.99
Obscure USD $46.99
International USD $67.99
RAMA Aluminum USD $38.00
RAMA Brass USD $58.00
Standard USD $119.99
Novelty USD $44.99
Aesthetic USD $29.99
Alternate USD $39.99
Obscure USD $46.99
International USD $67.99
RAMA Aluminum USD $38.00
RAMA Brass USD $58.00
Novelty Guide
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The novelties go as follows:
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The novelties go as follows:
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Æsir is the principal pantheon of Norse gods
Helhiemr which refers to the Norse underworld
Miðgarðr or Midgard which is the Norse name for Earth
The two ravens are Huginn and Muninn, Odin's ravens that fly over Midgard
Þórr or the modern spelling Thor
Óðinn or the modern spelling Odin
The axe is an axe.
Helhiemr which refers to the Norse underworld
Miðgarðr or Midgard which is the Norse name for Earth
The two ravens are Huginn and Muninn, Odin's ravens that fly over Midgard
Þórr or the modern spelling Thor
Óðinn or the modern spelling Odin
The axe is an axe.
Colors
BV: Alphas
L9: Alpha Legends
U9: Accent Keys
RAL 220 20 20: Mods
BV: Alphas
L9: Alpha Legends
U9: Accent Keys
RAL 220 20 20: Mods
VENDORS
US: Omnitype (https://omnitype.com/)
CA: Deskhero (https://www.deskhero.ca/)
EU: Mykeyboard (https://mykeyboard.eu/)
OCEANIA: DailyClack (https://dailyclack.com/)
CN: Zfrontier (https://en.zfrontier.com)
Norway: Tastatur (http://tastatur.no) (Mekanisk)
SEA: iLumKB (https://ilumkb.com/)
Collab Cable: SpaceCables (https://spaceholdings.net)
US: Omnitype (https://omnitype.com/)
CA: Deskhero (https://www.deskhero.ca/)
EU: Mykeyboard (https://mykeyboard.eu/)
OCEANIA: DailyClack (https://dailyclack.com/)
CN: Zfrontier (https://en.zfrontier.com)
Norway: Tastatur (http://tastatur.no) (Mekanisk)
SEA: iLumKB (https://ilumkb.com/)
Collab Cable: SpaceCables (https://spaceholdings.net)
UPDATES
IC FORM (https://forms.gle/XfrrT9Uoa9dKKCYu5)
RUNE ALPHAS FORM (https://forms.gle/8rGosZXPMmshdu3Y8)
More
July 24, 2020:
July 26, 2020 Runic Alphas are now officially in the works. Renders will be up as soon as they become available in the next few days hopefully. Added Deskmat renders.
July 27, 2020: Looking to hopefully have Runic Alpha renders up by Friday. Adding 2 more possible novelties.
August 3, 2020: Google form answers have decided that the Runes will be used as Elder Futhark Mono-legends.
August 6, 2020: New Vendors announced.
August 15, 2020: SpaceCables collab announced! Added rune alpha base kit renders as both Monos and Subs with the original base color.
August 21, 2020: Will be reworking novelties to fit GMK spec and will work on adding more.
September 12, 2020: Got all my physical color samples in. The renders being updated today are color matched ones that are as accurate as I could get. (RAL 220 20 20).
December 11, 2020: Quote request sent in by lead vendor. Final kits and renders are soon(tm).
January 7, 2021 STATUS UPDATE: I know a lot of people are wondering what is happening with this set and why there have not been updates in quite a long time based on people messaging me. I'm here to say that yes the set is pretty much done and that the current state of the IC does not reflect that. As of right now, I am working with my lead vendor to finish final kitting, getting professional renders, pricing, and a GB date. Also, we have decided that Norse will run as sublegends as it is the more popular choice according to the interest check form. Nonetheless, the IC should be fully updated soon but I do not have a timeline. Thank you for your continued interest in this project
- Updated base kit render to fix ISO support and added Alpha colored spacebar.
- Moved R1 PgDn and End keys to Numpad Kit. (will update render later today)
- Added new google form for Runic Alphas
- So after seeing the feedback in the IC form and talking to some people about it I have decided to give Runic alphas a shot!
July 26, 2020 Runic Alphas are now officially in the works. Renders will be up as soon as they become available in the next few days hopefully. Added Deskmat renders.
July 27, 2020: Looking to hopefully have Runic Alpha renders up by Friday. Adding 2 more possible novelties.
August 3, 2020: Google form answers have decided that the Runes will be used as Elder Futhark Mono-legends.
August 6, 2020: New Vendors announced.
August 15, 2020: SpaceCables collab announced! Added rune alpha base kit renders as both Monos and Subs with the original base color.
August 21, 2020: Will be reworking novelties to fit GMK spec and will work on adding more.
September 12, 2020: Got all my physical color samples in. The renders being updated today are color matched ones that are as accurate as I could get. (RAL 220 20 20).
December 11, 2020: Quote request sent in by lead vendor. Final kits and renders are soon(tm).
January 7, 2021 STATUS UPDATE: I know a lot of people are wondering what is happening with this set and why there have not been updates in quite a long time based on people messaging me. I'm here to say that yes the set is pretty much done and that the current state of the IC does not reflect that. As of right now, I am working with my lead vendor to finish final kitting, getting professional renders, pricing, and a GB date. Also, we have decided that Norse will run as sublegends as it is the more popular choice according to the interest check form. Nonetheless, the IC should be fully updated soon but I do not have a timeline. Thank you for your continued interest in this project
IC FORM (https://forms.gle/XfrrT9Uoa9dKKCYu5)
RUNE ALPHAS FORM (https://forms.gle/8rGosZXPMmshdu3Y8)
CREDITS
GTRX for keycap render assets
EndeavorSC for keycap render assets
Konstantin for kitting and rune help
GTRX for keycap render assets
EndeavorSC for keycap render assets
Konstantin for kitting and rune help
Post by: crusader_alex on Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:09:52
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Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:11:53
Also, for those into this stuff, Vinland Saga was a great anime series.
Post by: L8T on Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:12:41
Post by: nu_types on Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:15:53
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Post by: titanium on Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:35:45
Post by: futurecrime on Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:35:57
Post by: Banur on Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:36:28
They are not Elder Futhark, but look like Younger Futhark:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Futhark
Post by: paqji on Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:38:36
Post by: Skok on Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:41:15
Where did you get the runes/ words from?
They are not Elder Futhark, but look like Younger Futhark:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Futhark
I got them from my novelty designer. I'll take a look and update the IC. I may have made a mistake
Post by: Skok on Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:49:40
this is hot, +1 for 1.5u novelties and possibly RAL 220 20 10 spacebars please?
Yeah will definitely look into adding another spacebar option. Its a popular request on the google form so far.
Post by: BapoDonu on Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:01:30
Post by: Skok on Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:08:10
What's up with not having alpha colored spacebars in base :(
Will for sure update that tonight after work or tomorrow morning. Based on feedback it was a pretty big oversight. It'll be there though!
Post by: Skok on Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:10:54
I absolutely adore this, well done!
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No way! GMK Sparta is one of my favorite looking sets! I definitely took inspiration from it. Any plans to give the groupbuy another go for the set?
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:20:23
alpha colored split bars somewhere?
Post by: nu_types on Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:37:53
Post by: lolafineday on Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:54:23
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Post by: Llamakob on Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:00:19
Post by: kaisn on Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:07:23
Post by: Skok on Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:40:06
Is there an option for a regular black spacebar?There will be. Will fix when I get back from work
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Post by: Skok on Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:40:46
Not sure if it's on purpose, but the base kit is missing a 1.75u shift. I see what looks to be a 2u shift and an extra 2.25u. Also, please consider keeping the 2u shift.Yeah I'll look into that and check it out when I get home from work.
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Post by: break on Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:49:44
No offense to the GMK Birch designer but this is exactly what i wanted that set to look like! Im so glad you decided to run this, it looks stunning! GL with the IC <3
No offense taken. ;) This is a lovely set and I would have been thrilled to design it. Especially the novelties!
Fantastic job, Skok - best of luck with IC, looking forward to more details here. Happy to see a full NorDe kit as well as black spacebars incoming.
Post by: bukowski on Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:53:49
Post by: Sabin on Thu, 23 July 2020, 17:42:41
How would you feel about having more novelties which relate to viking combat? I personally would have to have a selection of novelties for things like weapons (swords, axe, bow etc.) a shield, a helmet. The novelties for the gods are great. I think that would be pretty cool.
Also, one last thing: This may get hated on...but I personally love sublegends. I think having a set with Latin Alphas and Rune sublegends would be sick! Please consider it as an add on...or even the base set if popular enough!
Hope you'll consider the suggestions and love the colour scheme personally, I reallt hope it goes through to GB.
Post by: jdecker on Thu, 23 July 2020, 17:47:16
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Post by: konstantin on Thu, 23 July 2020, 20:07:07
For example, there are ISO Enter keys in the base kit, but they aren't accompanied by the other three ISO keys (1.25u Shift, R3 \|, R4 <>) that are required for ISO support to be functional.
There are R1 PgDn and End keys, but they are only ever used with numpads and so would be better suited for the numpad kit.
There are 1.75u, second 2u and second 1u spacekeys in the spacebars kit, which are only ever used on 40% keyboards, but this set doesn't have 40% support.
Here are some GMK sets with good numpadless base kits that you can use as a reference for kitting: GMK Firefly (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102667.0), GMK Bleached (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105650.0), GMK Hennessey (https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-gmk-hennessey-custom-keycap-set), GMK Yugo (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103263.0).
That being said: I like the theme of this set, although I'm not 100% sold on the colors.
Post by: despairsray on Thu, 23 July 2020, 20:43:06
Post by: Skok on Thu, 23 July 2020, 21:06:36
The kits could use some work.THANK YOU FOR THIS. While I was doing the kitting I was looking at tons of other base kits trying to figure out what was most popular and also what I needed for mine to make sense. I still missed the mark a bit, but it will be fixed in the coming days, either tomorrow or some time early next week at the very latest.
For example, there are ISO Enter keys in the base kit, but they aren't accompanied by the other three ISO keys (1.25u Shift, R3 \|, R4 <>) that are required for ISO support to be functional.
There are R1 PgDn and End keys, but they are only ever used with numpads and so would be better suited for the numpad kit.
There are 1.75u, second 2u and second 1u spacekeys in the spacebars kit, which are only ever used on 40% keyboards, but this set doesn't have 40% support.
Here are some GMK sets with good numpadless base kits that you can use as a reference for kitting: GMK Firefly (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102667.0), GMK Bleached (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105650.0), GMK Hennessey (https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-gmk-hennessey-custom-keycap-set), GMK Yugo (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103263.0).
That being said: I like the theme of this set, although I'm not 100% sold on the colors.
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Post by: Skok on Thu, 23 July 2020, 23:48:28
Colors are interesting, well coordinated, contrasting without feeling far apart. Normally 5 color sets feel like there's way too much going on but in this, the combinations are so subtle and pleasing. Creates a sense of depth without overwhelming the eyes. Novelties add to the depth even more. Really fantastic work here. Also like that you kept the focus of the set general instead of diving too deep into the inspiration. I can tell a lot of thought and work went into this. Fantastic job.Thank you. The colors took a while to get right especially when it came to color matching RAL. I may add a few more novelites based on the responses I've gotten in the Google form but I think as it stands right now I have a solid line up that is pleasing no matter which icons/colors you prefer.
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Post by: Sneetzle on Fri, 24 July 2020, 02:28:29
Is it possible to add 1u R4 novelties, for HHKB/Tsangan layout?
Post by: Techlet on Fri, 24 July 2020, 03:12:50
I'm going to assume the base kit render is incomplete because there's no sign of a 1.75u Shift (even though it's seen on the Iron165 render).
Post by: Poesjuh on Fri, 24 July 2020, 03:16:48
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Post by: Stanley.Bishop on Fri, 24 July 2020, 04:00:47
Post by: crusader_alex on Fri, 24 July 2020, 04:05:01
Appreciate the kind words mate! This set is lovely as well, the color combos are absolutely beautiful. I've been looking forward to a Norse themed set for quite some time haha.I absolutely adore this, well done!
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No way! GMK Sparta is one of my favorite looking sets! I definitely took inspiration from it. Any plans to give the groupbuy another go for the set?
+1 for the alpha colored spacebar btw.
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Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 24 July 2020, 05:53:19
Post by: Skok on Fri, 24 July 2020, 06:04:26
Oh I didn't see. Yeah, if alpha colored spacebars aren't in base, this is a no buy.They will be there! Once I fix the kitting as aforementioned. I will also add the renders with the alpha colored spacebar
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Post by: Skok on Fri, 24 July 2020, 06:06:22
Color me interested.Yeah some mistakes were made. Going to yse the feedback I got yesterday to fix my mistakes. Thank you for pointing that out!
I'm going to assume the base kit render is incomplete because there's no sign of a 1.75u Shift (even though it's seen on the Iron165 render).
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Post by: Llamakob on Fri, 24 July 2020, 07:48:10
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Post by: juice_pouch on Fri, 24 July 2020, 10:26:34
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 24 July 2020, 10:57:26
The kits could use some work.THANK YOU FOR THIS. While I was doing the kitting I was looking at tons of other base kits trying to figure out what was most popular and also what I needed for mine to make sense. I still missed the mark a bit, but it will be fixed in the coming days, either tomorrow or some time early next week at the very latest.
For example, there are ISO Enter keys in the base kit, but they aren't accompanied by the other three ISO keys (1.25u Shift, R3 \|, R4 <>) that are required for ISO support to be functional.
There are R1 PgDn and End keys, but they are only ever used with numpads and so would be better suited for the numpad kit.
There are 1.75u, second 2u and second 1u spacekeys in the spacebars kit, which are only ever used on 40% keyboards, but this set doesn't have 40% support.
Here are some GMK sets with good numpadless base kits that you can use as a reference for kitting: GMK Firefly (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102667.0), GMK Bleached (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105650.0), GMK Hennessey (https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-gmk-hennessey-custom-keycap-set), GMK Yugo (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103263.0).
That being said: I like the theme of this set, although I'm not 100% sold on the colors.
You're welcome. GMK ThinkCaps (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106305.0) is another such set with good kitting.
Post by: Tyson on Fri, 24 July 2020, 14:16:24
Post by: Skok on Fri, 24 July 2020, 14:28:05
[ Attachment Invalid Or Does Not Exist ]Geekhack keeps giving me a 413 error resulting in my IC to not have pictures. Should be fixed now
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Post by: KeebOnMe on Fri, 24 July 2020, 14:59:58
Post by: Skok on Fri, 24 July 2020, 15:11:56
Submitted a form but thought I'd mention it here:
How would you feel about having more novelties which relate to viking combat? I personally would have to have a selection of novelties for things like weapons (swords, axe, bow etc.) a shield, a helmet. The novelties for the gods are great. I think that would be pretty cool.
Also, one last thing: This may get hated on...but I personally love sublegends. I think having a set with Latin Alphas and Rune sublegends would be sick! Please consider it as an add on...or even the base set if popular enough!
Hope you'll consider the suggestions and love the colour scheme personally, I reallt hope it goes through to GB.
I am considering adding a few more novelties including weapons of some sort. As for my response for the Rune alphas/sublegends. Since this is GMK they would have to make new molds for each sublegend which would be incredibly expensive. I would also have to go in and design them from the ground up to avoid any licensing/copyright issues. Now I am not opposed to it completely but a lot more work needs to be done before I go all in on the idea. Based on the responses in my IC form I'll look into it. Thank you!
Post by: Sabin on Fri, 24 July 2020, 15:34:41
Submitted a form but thought I'd mention it here:
How would you feel about having more novelties which relate to viking combat? I personally would have to have a selection of novelties for things like weapons (swords, axe, bow etc.) a shield, a helmet. The novelties for the gods are great. I think that would be pretty cool.
Also, one last thing: This may get hated on...but I personally love sublegends. I think having a set with Latin Alphas and Rune sublegends would be sick! Please consider it as an add on...or even the base set if popular enough!
Hope you'll consider the suggestions and love the colour scheme personally, I reallt hope it goes through to GB.
I am considering adding a few more novelties including weapons of some sort. As for my response for the Rune alphas/sublegends. Since this is GMK they would have to make new molds for each sublegend which would be incredibly expensive. I would also have to go in and design them from the ground up to avoid any licensing/copyright issues. Now I am not opposed to it completely but a lot more work needs to be done before I go all in on the idea. Based on the responses in my IC form I'll look into it. Thank you!
Awesome looking forward to seeing the new novelties. Ah I understand. I would be interested in paying more for them as it'll make it a truly unique set, but understand if it is not feasible! Appreciate the reply.
Post by: Skok on Fri, 24 July 2020, 16:14:48
Love the base and spacbar, can't wait to see what other concepts you come up with.
Thank you! Make sure to come back in the next week or two as I'll be making changes based on community feedback.
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 24 July 2020, 17:47:55
Geekhack keeps giving me a 413 error resulting in my IC to not have pictures. Should be fixed now
It's recommended to use Imgur (or another image hosting service of your choice; Imgur has some limitations (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102271.msg2925074#msg2925074)) rather than upload images directly to Geekhack. It makes the browsing experience better on both desktop and mobile (Tapatalk).
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 24 July 2020, 18:01:41
Suggestions for the updated base kit:
- Change second R4 1u Ctrl to Alt — one of each is required.
- Change Prt Sc to Print — looks cleaner.
- Change R3 1u #~ to \|.
- Change R4 1u <>| to <> (remove sublegend).
- Remove R4 1u \| — only one R4 ISO key is needed.
- Add R3 Pg Up, R4 Pg Dn — extended 65%/75% support for some popular layouts.
- Add R4 1.75u Shift — required for many different layouts, a must.
- Add mod-colored R2 1.5u \| — alternative to regular \|, similar to mod-colored `~.
- (optional) Change Scroll↲Lock to Scroll or Lock, and Num↲Lock to Num — looks cleaner.
Post by: Skok on Fri, 24 July 2020, 18:07:07
Suggestions for the updated base kit:
- Change second R4 1u Ctrl to Alt — one of each is required.
- Change Prt Sc to Print — looks cleaner.
- Change R3 1u #~ to \|.
- Change R4 1u <>| to <> (remove sublegend).
- Remove R4 1u \| — only one R4 ISO key is needed.
- Add R3 Pg Up, R4 Pg Dn — extended 65%/75% support for some popular layouts.
- Add R4 1.75u Shift — required for many different layouts, a must.
- Add mod-colored R2 1.5u \| — alternative to regular \|, similar to mod-colored `~.
- (optional) Change Scroll↲Lock to Scroll or Lock, and Num↲Lock to Num — looks cleaner.
Making these changes as we speak. Thank you
Post by: Skok on Fri, 24 July 2020, 21:42:01
Omg, this is my dream set. Please, introduce runic keycaps! I am begging you.
Updated IC. Runic caps are being designed as we speak.
Post by: Stanley.Bishop on Sat, 25 July 2020, 02:24:42
Also would you consider novelty cap for a spacebar?
Post by: Sabin on Sat, 25 July 2020, 04:52:34
Post by: Eagle Bearer on Sat, 25 July 2020, 06:32:18
Post by: Skok on Sat, 25 July 2020, 08:36:08
I know you're working hard on the Rune alphas/sublegends but also thought I'd suggest a rama cap if it's something that interests you and others?
Yeah I would for sure be interested in a RAMA collab. From what I have heard you need a full list of vendors before they work with you. But I will definitely try to make that happen!
Post by: Nudd on Sat, 25 July 2020, 10:17:25
Could you sort your pics though, two base kits showing different keys :P
If this has full UK ISO i'm in.
Love that rune mat, may have to get a spare or two :)
Post by: Skok on Sat, 25 July 2020, 10:59:00
Very niceYeah I gotta edit it when I get back home from work tonight. Sorry about that. I was fixing the ISO support and forget to remove the old image. Thank you and theres another deskmat in the works!
Could you sort your pics though, two base kits showing different keys
If this has full UK ISO i'm in.
Love that rune mat, may have to get a spare or two :)
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Post by: Nudd on Sat, 25 July 2020, 11:09:50
Very niceYeah I gotta edit it when I get back home from work tonight. Sorry about that. I was fixing the ISO support and forget to remove the old image. Thank you and theres another deskmat in the works!
Could you sort your pics though, two base kits showing different keys
If this has full UK ISO i'm in.
Love that rune mat, may have to get a spare or two :)
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Skál!
Post by: kai0 on Sat, 25 July 2020, 11:18:46
Post by: Techlet on Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:02:37
I see 1.25u, 1.5u, 2u, and an extra 2.25u, but no 1.75u.
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:32:07
Am I missing something obvious or is there still not a 1.75u Shift in the updated base kit?
I see 1.25u, 1.5u, 2u, and an extra 2.25u, but no 1.75u.
Looks like it. 1.5u should be replaced with 1.75u.
Post by: Owl- on Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:40:20
Capslock novelty is hella underrated. Just saying..
Post by: lazergician on Sun, 26 July 2020, 17:18:09
Post by: juice_pouch on Sun, 26 July 2020, 17:40:44
Post by: Skok on Sun, 26 July 2020, 21:17:04
Need novelty that says Valhalla to replace capslock. In Latin or Runes
Capslock novelty is hella underrated. Just saying..
hmmmmmm. duly noted
Post by: Skok on Sun, 26 July 2020, 21:23:11
Am I missing something obvious or is there still not a 1.75u Shift in the updated base kit?
I see 1.25u, 1.5u, 2u, and an extra 2.25u, but no 1.75u.
Looks like it. 1.5u should be replaced with 1.75u.
I can't believe I messed that up again. I thought I had it right. I was stuck at work all day. I'll go back in tomorrow and fix it as well as clean up the rest of the IC.
Post by: kiwoli on Sun, 26 July 2020, 22:24:19
I understand the complexity of going by rgb images on a monitor, however, I have a few question marks on whether the RAL colours are quoted/rendered correctly?
- 9004 & 7040 looks warmer than the actual colour?
- Is the accent colour meant to be RAL 60 50 10? Saturation looks light
Post by: Skok on Mon, 27 July 2020, 11:24:15
No gold 7U spacebar in the base kit?
Good catch. Will fix in next update
Post by: Sabin on Mon, 27 July 2020, 18:13:32
Does that mean no Runic sublegends on the Latin alphas?
Post by: Skok on Mon, 27 July 2020, 18:32:49
Regarding the Jult 26th Update: "Runic Alphas are in the works"
Does that mean no Runic sublegends on the Latin alphas?
Both are in the works, when those are finished and the IC is a bit more polished I'll make a post on reddit to drive more people to this thread fill out a form deciding between the alphas vs subs.
Post by: Sabin on Mon, 27 July 2020, 18:52:51
Ah okay, sounds good!Regarding the Jult 26th Update: "Runic Alphas are in the works"
Does that mean no Runic sublegends on the Latin alphas?
Both are in the works, when those are finished and the IC is a bit more polished I'll make a post on reddit to drive more people to this thread fill out a form deciding between the alphas vs subs.
Post by: iwanoo on Tue, 28 July 2020, 09:16:55
Post by: Skok on Tue, 28 July 2020, 09:49:12
Can't wait to see how the runic alphas will turn out! Is there any plan for ortho/obscure kit?
To be honest I'm not sure yet. The google form I posted has had a 80/20 split between not having ortho versus having it. It was 138 who said no to ortho/40s and 31 that said yes. Once I get the Runic alpha renders, I'm going to post on Reddit to hopefully drive more people to fill out the form so I can get a better idea.
Post by: BapoDonu on Tue, 28 July 2020, 10:24:57
(https://i.imgur.com/PmQzVvn.jpg)
Would you consider a white on black variant ?
Post by: Skok on Tue, 28 July 2020, 10:36:46
Desk mat reminds me of a song i used to listen when i was youngerShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/PmQzVvn.jpg)
Would you consider a white on black variant ?
I was considering a black deskmat with beige text. to match the accent color
Post by: dantambok on Tue, 28 July 2020, 10:38:07
Post by: Skok on Tue, 28 July 2020, 10:41:25
i like it!
Thank you! Stay tuned for Runic Alphas!
Post by: ebastler on Tue, 28 July 2020, 12:27:14
Pretty set, I really like both the colors and the fact that you offer a NorDe set (well, would be kinda odd not to include scandinavian layouts in a scandinavian themed set^^).
Best of luck with the IC, and I hope to see this in GB soon :thumb:
Post by: Skok on Tue, 28 July 2020, 12:33:03
The fact that you rendered the Isometria in isometric projection is honestly an amazing play on words.
Pretty set, I really like both the colors and the fact that you offer a NorDe set (well, would be kinda odd not to include scandinavian layouts in a scandinavian themed set^^).
Best of luck with the IC, and I hope to see this in GB soon :thumb:
Haha I wasn't thinking that when I did it. Also thank you for making the render files available, the set looks fantastic on your case!
Post by: ebastler on Tue, 28 July 2020, 12:52:30
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Also thank you for making the render files availableNo problem, It makes me happy see people actually use my design for renders. Great feeling to see others appreciate your work.
I just hope I'll get the prototypes done soon-ish. I really wanna see the board outside of renders ._.
Post by: rezachman on Tue, 28 July 2020, 19:08:27
Post by: Skok on Tue, 28 July 2020, 19:28:08
It really does, one of the best fitting GMK sets I've seen so far! May I post them over in my project thread? (or do you wanna do it yourself?)Yeah post them. Sounds like a win win for the both us. Thank you!QuoteAlso thank you for making the render files availableNo problem, It makes me happy see people actually use my design for renders. Great feeling to see others appreciate your work.
I just hope I'll get the prototypes done soon-ish. I really wanna see the board outside of renders ._.
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Post by: surreal19 on Thu, 30 July 2020, 20:53:43
Post by: Skok on Thu, 30 July 2020, 21:02:23
can we get a canadian vendor when gb is ready :)There is one already! Will announce vendors soon once I finalize everything.
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Post by: phedd on Thu, 30 July 2020, 22:25:15
Would it even be legal for GMK to produce that in Germany? "Hate symbol".
Yeah, we can try to reclaim it as a normal symbol but come on.. is this the time and place? Same as like the swastika isn't inherently a nazi symbol but that's what people associate it with.
Otherwise you might as well throw in the Odal rune and everything...
Great otherwise. I'd change / to ÷ on the numpad, especially since that's the symbol used in the Nordics.
And personally I don't think a down arrow for Caps Lock makes any sense. That would be like the symbol for "Lower Case Lock". But that seems to be only me. Text would be more in line with what's traditionally used on Caps Lock in the Nordic countries (the rest of the modifiers are "traditional" so having just Caps Lock be the odd one out seems like a missed opportunity). Or this:
(https://img.icons8.com/all/500/caps-lock-on.png)
Post by: Skok on Thu, 30 July 2020, 22:41:43
I'd really avoid using the valknut since it's so associated with nazis. Sad, but true.
Would it even be legal for GMK to produce that in Germany? "Hate symbol".
Yeah, we can try to reclaim it as a normal symbol but come on.. is this the time and place? Same as like the swastika isn't inherently a nazi symbol but that's what people associate it with.
Otherwise you might as well throw in the Odal rune and everything...
Great otherwise. I'd change / to ÷ on the numpad, especially since that's the symbol used in the Nordics.
And personally I don't think a down arrow for Caps Lock makes any sense. That would be like the symbol for "Lower Case Lock". But that seems to be only me. Text would be more in line with what's traditionally used on Caps Lock in the Nordic countries (the rest of the modifiers are "traditional" so having just Caps Lock be the odd one out seems like a missed opportunity). Or this:Show Image(https://img.icons8.com/all/500/caps-lock-on.png)
You bring up a good point. I had some premonitions about including it but I thought that since this is a Norse themed set with symbols representing their beliefs/culture that it would not be taken out of context in that way. I'll axe it, pun intended, and replace with a different novelty. Also if you take a look at GMK Icon mods the caps lock is typically a downwards arrow, therefore I included it in my set. Thanks for the feedback!
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 31 July 2020, 07:37:51
The 6u space bar is off centered right? I mean, it should support all the 1800's out there.As far as I know, all modern PCBs with 6u space (1800, 66-key, 60% etc.) support at least centered stem, but not all of them support off-centered stem. The reverse is true on OG 1800 Cherry PCBs, but probably not much else. Ideally the kit would include both 6u options, but if there's only room for one, I think centered stem is better.
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 31 July 2020, 07:41:24
And personally I don't think a down arrow for Caps Lock makes any sense. That would be like the symbol for "Lower Case Lock". But that seems to be only me. Text would be more in line with what's traditionally used on Caps Lock in the Nordic countries (the rest of the modifiers are "traditional" so having just Caps Lock be the odd one out seems like a missed opportunity). Or this:Show Image(https://img.icons8.com/all/500/caps-lock-on.png)
You bring up a good point. I had some premonitions about including it but I thought that since this is a Norse themed set with symbols representing their beliefs/culture that it would not be taken out of context in that way. I'll axe it, pun intended, and replace with a different novelty. Also if you take a look at GMK Icon mods the caps lock is typically a downwards arrow, therefore I included it in my set. Thanks for the feedback!
Down arrow Caps Lock is a good choice, not because it makes any sense (spoiler: it doesn't), but because it's a versatile, fairly generic-looking icon that can even work as Fn or Ctrl in a pinch.
Great otherwise. I'd change / to ÷ on the numpad, especially since that's the symbol used in the Nordics.
Don't forget to also change * to × in this case.
Post by: hallzy on Fri, 31 July 2020, 08:19:40
Post by: Skok on Fri, 31 July 2020, 08:33:29
Any chance for UK ISO to be included in base??? What a set, well done
Yeah, I was planning on it. Could you point out the keys that I'm missing so that I can fix the base kit? It's been challenging to get the kitting right so I want to make sure I have everything correct. Thanks!
Post by: ideus on Fri, 31 July 2020, 09:04:22
The 6u space bar is off centered right? I mean, it should support all the 1800's out there.As far as I know, all modern PCBs with 6u space (1800, 66-key, 60% etc.) support at least centered stem, but not all of them support off-centered stem. The reverse is true on OG 1800 Cherry PCBs, but probably not much else. Ideally the kit would include both 6u options, but if there's only room for one, I think centered stem is better.
I think the set has both; but, the space bars are not in alpha color. The Cherry 1800 PCB, when carrying 6u, is off centered.
Post by: Nudd on Fri, 31 July 2020, 09:10:23
Any chance for UK ISO to be included in base??? What a set, well done
Yeah, I was planning on it. Could you point out the keys that I'm missing so that I can fix the base kit? It's been challenging to get the kitting right so I want to make sure I have everything correct. Thanks!
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Post by: konstantin on Fri, 31 July 2020, 09:27:18
Any chance for UK ISO to be included in base??? What a set, well done
Yeah, I was planning on it. Could you point out the keys that I'm missing so that I can fix the base kit? It's been challenging to get the kitting right so I want to make sure I have everything correct. Thanks!
ISO users are already a niche, adding specific keys for a niche within a niche and increasing the size of an already large base kit by 4+ is not a good idea, imo. Read this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105160.msg2940463.msg#2940463).
That being said, it's not my place to argue the decisions you make as the designer of the set. If you want to add ISO-UK support to the base kit, these are the exact changes you need to make:
- Add R1 1u `¬
- Add R1 1u 2"
- Add R1 1u 3£
- Add R3 1u '@
- Change R3 1u \| to #~
- Change R4 1u <> to \|
Post by: Skok on Fri, 31 July 2020, 09:48:38
Any chance for UK ISO to be included in base??? What a set, well done
Yeah, I was planning on it. Could you point out the keys that I'm missing so that I can fix the base kit? It's been challenging to get the kitting right so I want to make sure I have everything correct. Thanks!
ISO users are already a niche, adding specific keys for a niche within a niche and increasing the size of an already large base kit by 4+ is not a good idea, imo. Read this post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105160.msg2940463.msg#2940463).
That being said, it's not my place to argue the decisions you make as the designer of the set. If you want to add ISO-UK support to the base kit, these are the exact changes you need to make:But, again, I would advise staying with the current setup as it covers more ISO users with the least amount of keys, and also because all of the Nordic countries use that <> key.
- Add R1 1u `¬
- Add R1 1u 2"
- Add R1 1u 3£
- Add R3 1u '@
- Change R3 1u \| to #~
- Change R4 1u <> to \|
GMK Hammerhead had a very large base kit which included UK ISO support. My set also excludes the numpad from base so I assumed that gave me some leeway to support smaller niches in the base kit. If I'm wrong please tell me as I'm still learning all the minute details.
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 31 July 2020, 10:52:18
GMK Hammerhead had a very large base kit which included UK ISO support. My set also excludes the numpad from base so I assumed that gave me some leeway to support smaller niches in the base kit. If I'm wrong please tell me as I'm still learning all the minute details.
Hammerhead's NA price is very much an outlier. A more appropriate comparison would be GMK Nord (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106874.0), which has a slightly smaller base kit than this, also numpadless, but is priced at $125 @ 500 MOQ, the same as Hammerhead's full base kit @ 250 MOQ. The difference is that GMK Nord uses double the amount of custom colors (8 vs 4). Another example would be GMK Fro.Yo (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102140.0), which uses one less custom color than this (4), but is priced at $135 @ 250 MOQ for a small numpadless base kit. Also GMK Rouge (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106715.0), with one more custom color (6), priced at $120 @ 250 MOQ for a very small numpadless base kit.
In summary, no numpad doesn't mean a cheap base kit. Custom colors play a large role, and you should still be careful about putting too many extra keys in base. You already have several large keys in there (three spacebars, soon to be four; two ISO Enters; a few extra Shifts...), accent arrows etc., and all of that adds up.
Edit: added links
Post by: Skok on Fri, 31 July 2020, 11:06:10
GMK Hammerhead had a very large base kit which included UK ISO support. My set also excludes the numpad from base so I assumed that gave me some leeway to support smaller niches in the base kit. If I'm wrong please tell me as I'm still learning all the minute details.
Hammerhead's NA price is very much an outlier. A more appropriate comparison would be GMK Nord, which has a slightly smaller base kit than this, also numpadless, but is priced at $125 @ 500 MOQ, the same as Hammerhead's full base kit @ 250 MOQ. Another example would be GMK Fro.Yo, which uses one less custom color than this, but is priced at $135 @ 250 MOQ for a small numpadless base kit. Also GMK Rouge, with one more custom color, priced at $120 @ 250 MOQ for a very small numpadless base kit.
In summary, no numpad doesn't mean a cheap base kit. Custom colors play a large role and you should still be careful about adding too many keys to the base kit. You already have several large keys in there (three spacebars, soon to be four; two ISO enters; a few extra Shifts...), and all of that adds up.
I'm most likely going to cut the beige spacebar from base and add to the spacebar kit after I fix its compatibility issues that were mentioned prior. I was also going to get rid of one or two of the extra shifts. I might swap one of the black RALs to stock CR. Thanks for the tips. Your comments have been imperative for fixing this sets issues.
Post by: mvhtnb on Sat, 01 August 2020, 00:46:59
Edit: like this
(http://www.svenskarunstenar.net/sormland/so56midgard.jpg)
Post by: Gtack on Sat, 01 August 2020, 01:13:04
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Post by: Techichi on Sat, 01 August 2020, 09:05:15
Post by: grimis on Sat, 01 August 2020, 11:56:40
Post by: Skok on Sat, 01 August 2020, 12:23:05
Not a fan of the darker alphas. To me this set just looks like GMK WoB with some different mods slapped on to it. Completely changed the feel to me.I might change back to the old RAL. Its about 50/50 between people liking it vs not liking it. We'll see
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Post by: VagueOrigin on Sat, 01 August 2020, 13:17:50
Not a fan of the darker alphas. To me this set just looks like GMK WoB with some different mods slapped on to it. Completely changed the feel to me.I might change back to the old RAL. Its about 50/50 between people liking it vs not liking it. We'll see
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I also personally preferred the previous color, I feel like the darker alphas offset the desk mat in a negative way as there is little to no tan now.
Post by: riterdando on Sat, 01 August 2020, 16:07:40
Post by: Skok on Sat, 01 August 2020, 16:09:32
I also prefer the previous alpha color.I've been thinking about it at work all day. It will most likely be returning.
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Post by: konstantin on Sat, 01 August 2020, 16:14:50
Assuming you will be moving the beige spacebars to a spacebar kit, the updated base kit looks good now, except for the R4 \| ISO key, which will need to be moved to R3.
Post by: Skok on Sat, 01 August 2020, 22:35:33
+1 for the old alpha color, I liked how it looked better than CR.
Assuming you will be moving the beige spacebars to a spacebar kit, the updated base kit looks good now, except for the R4 \| ISO key, which will need to be moved to R3.
Yeah old alpha color will be making a return. Either way I think it looks fantastic. Will also make that fix when I redo the renders.
Post by: break on Sat, 01 August 2020, 22:36:06
I also prefer the previous alpha color.I've been thinking about it at work all day. It will most likely be returning.
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Great choice, the set lost a lot of character with the move to CR.
Post by: Skok on Sat, 01 August 2020, 22:40:02
I also prefer the previous alpha color.I've been thinking about it at work all day. It will most likely be returning.
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Great choice, the set lost a lot of character with the move to CR.
Yeah, definitely a mistake but that's why we have Interests checks to figure out what everyone likes, and what everyone likes is the old color of the alphas lol.
Post by: Skok on Sat, 01 August 2020, 22:43:16
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Post by: aaronlau on Sun, 02 August 2020, 00:02:35
Post by: break on Sun, 02 August 2020, 00:42:15
I also prefer the previous alpha color.I've been thinking about it at work all day. It will most likely be returning.
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Great choice, the set lost a lot of character with the move to CR.
Yeah, definitely a mistake but that's why we have Interests checks to figure out what everyone likes, and what everyone likes is the old color of the alphas lol.
I don't mean to criticize for the initial change, I'm sorry. I mean to congratulate you for undoing an unpopular change!
Post by: Sabin on Sun, 02 August 2020, 14:15:04
Post by: Skok on Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:27:49
Hows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?Leaning towards alphas.
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Post by: Skok on Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:46:25
Hows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%
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Post by: Andwoo on Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:59:24
Post by: Daniel on Sun, 02 August 2020, 16:14:32
1. Is there a tentatie GB date for this?
2. Would love 2.25 + 2.75 spacebars in base kit for Alice compatability.
Post by: Skok on Sun, 02 August 2020, 16:45:18
I love the colorway.No date on group buy yet. Still working on getting the rest of my vendors but its looking good. Spacebars has been the hardest kit for me to figure out for some reason. I think im gonna add Alice compatibility. I just need to look at what else I need before I post the renders
1. Is there a tentatie GB date for this?
2. Would love 2.25 + 2.75 spacebars in base kit for Alice compatability.
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Post by: Sabin on Mon, 03 August 2020, 06:44:49
Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popularHows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%
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Post by: Skok on Mon, 03 August 2020, 13:29:03
Yeah. Rune mono legends are winning by a fair margin. Personally I think they would look better as Monos because I think sublegends are too cluttered. Ill probably offer latin alphas as a child kit for those who aren't fans of it.Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popularHows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%
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Post by: Sabin on Mon, 03 August 2020, 15:02:09
Ah fair enough. I preferred the look of sublegends.. Looks cooler than having Japanese sublegends which I also love. I hope the results aren't skewed because I noticed you can submit the form multiple times as you're not required to be logged inYeah. Rune mono legends are winning by a fair margin. Personally I think they would look better as Monos because I think sublegends are too cluttered. Ill probably offer latin alphas as a child kit for those who aren't fans of it.Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popularHows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%
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Post by: VagueOrigin on Mon, 03 August 2020, 15:07:17
Nah, its just cleaner.Ah fair enough. I preferred the look of sublegends.. Looks cooler than having Japanese sublegends which I also love. I hope the results aren't skewed because I noticed you can submit the form multiple times as you're not required to be logged inYeah. Rune mono legends are winning by a fair margin. Personally I think they would look better as Monos because I think sublegends are too cluttered. Ill probably offer latin alphas as a child kit for those who aren't fans of it.Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popularHows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%
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Post by: Sabin on Mon, 03 August 2020, 15:48:25
Nah, its just cleaner.Ah fair enough. I preferred the look of sublegends.. Looks cooler than having Japanese sublegends which I also love. I hope the results aren't skewed because I noticed you can submit the form multiple times as you're not required to be logged inYeah. Rune mono legends are winning by a fair margin. Personally I think they would look better as Monos because I think sublegends are too cluttered. Ill probably offer latin alphas as a child kit for those who aren't fans of it.Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popularHows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%
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Still prefer the look of sublegendsNah, its just cleaner.Ah fair enough. I preferred the look of sublegends.. Looks cooler than having Japanese sublegends which I also love. I hope the results aren't skewed because I noticed you can submit the form multiple times as you're not required to be logged inYeah. Rune mono legends are winning by a fair margin. Personally I think they would look better as Monos because I think sublegends are too cluttered. Ill probably offer latin alphas as a child kit for those who aren't fans of it.Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popularHows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%
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Post by: hottrout on Wed, 05 August 2020, 05:51:26
Post by: harlekein on Wed, 05 August 2020, 06:57:20
Post by: depletedvespene on Wed, 05 August 2020, 07:49:16
That said, the kits (as they stand now) still need some work:
- The base kit has <> and \| in R4 — \| should be one row up, in R3.
- An extra B and an F13 key have become pretty much standard additions to base kits in ICs. Consider having them, too.
- The NorDeUk kit is described as having support for "Norwegian, British, German, Danish", yet Swedish/Finnish is fully supported but not included in the list.
- '? in R1 isn't used in any of the four (five) layouts listed, so it should be taken out.
- English (UK) (not "British") is missing R4 \| and R3 #~.
- The keys ◌́◌̀, ◌́◌̀| and \◌̀◌́ all show the acute accent as a low mark. This might just be a render artifact, but do ensure that remains only as so.
- Same goes for the positioning of the £ sign in 3#£.
- Since R4 <> is in the base kit already, it can chopped off the NorDeUk kit.
- Consider adding the numpad comma keys, here or in the numpad kit.
GLWIC!
Post by: Daniel on Wed, 05 August 2020, 14:26:55
:-\
Post by: Skok on Thu, 06 August 2020, 12:43:46
So Latin alphas will not be in the Base kit?
:-\
The demand for Futhark alphas is incredibly high. 300+ responses on the google form are in favor of rune alphas in some form. Making them as a child kit would not only increase the price massively for the majority who want them, the moq would also be extremely high for a child kit. I'll have to discuss with vendors because they know more than I do. The google forms are also split right down the middle at 50% Monos and 50% Subs so I'll have to do renders for both and make another form to see which one is more popular after they actually see it on a board.
Post by: Skok on Thu, 06 August 2020, 12:46:40
Love the colours, muted and also very retro. Not a fan of the Novelties but that is just a personal preference. Please if possible include UK ISO in your kit. Great work and good luck.
Yeah I've been trying my best to get a good base kit. Every time I fix 1 thing 2 more problems arise. I'm trying my best and will consult a few people who know more than me when I redo the renders. Thanks!
Post by: Skok on Thu, 06 August 2020, 12:49:46
Interesting set — I like the colourway more than I would have expected initially.
That said, the kits (as they stand now) still need some work:
- The base kit has <> and \| in R4 — \| should be one row up, in R3.
- An extra B and an F13 key have become pretty much standard additions to base kits in ICs. Consider having them, too.
- The NorDeUk kit is described as having support for "Norwegian, British, German, Danish", yet Swedish/Finnish is fully supported but not included in the list.
- '? in R1 isn't used in any of the four (five) layouts listed, so it should be taken out.
- English (UK) (not "British") is missing R4 \| and R3 #~.
- The keys ◌́◌̀, ◌́◌̀| and \◌̀◌́ all show the acute accent as a low mark. This might just be a render artifact, but do ensure that remains only as so.
- Same goes for the positioning of the £ sign in 3#£.
- Since R4 <> is in the base kit already, it can chopped off the NorDeUk kit.
- Consider adding the numpad comma keys, here or in the numpad kit.
GLWIC!
Thank you for your feedback. I'll definitely make some of these changes when I go back and redo the base kit renders, maybe tomorrow if I can.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 07 August 2020, 15:20:33
Interesting set — I like the colourway more than I would have expected initially.
That said, the kits (as they stand now) still need some work:
- The base kit has <> and \| in R4 — \| should be one row up, in R3.
- An extra B and an F13 key have become pretty much standard additions to base kits in ICs. Consider having them, too.
- The NorDeUk kit is described as having support for "Norwegian, British, German, Danish", yet Swedish/Finnish is fully supported but not included in the list.
- '? in R1 isn't used in any of the four (five) layouts listed, so it should be taken out.
- English (UK) (not "British") is missing R4 \| and R3 #~.
- The keys ◌́◌̀, ◌́◌̀| and \◌̀◌́ all show the acute accent as a low mark. This might just be a render artifact, but do ensure that remains only as so.
- Same goes for the positioning of the £ sign in 3#£.
- Since R4 <> is in the base kit already, it can chopped off the NorDeUk kit.
- Consider adding the numpad comma keys, here or in the numpad kit.
GLWIC!
What is the extra B for?
Post by: juice_pouch on Fri, 07 August 2020, 15:47:28
What is the extra B for?
Alice-like layouts
Post by: Grady on Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:50:38
Post by: ISOxSwap on Sat, 08 August 2020, 14:10:41
Post by: ddrfraser1 on Sat, 08 August 2020, 14:23:49
I like it, but can't we have the runes like secondary alphas like all the weeb-set have Japanese? 🙏
That sounds cool but also busy.
Post by: PrinceRinse on Tue, 11 August 2020, 17:39:12
Post by: Skok on Tue, 11 August 2020, 17:49:34
Patiently waiting for the GB to start :'(Working on it!
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Post by: Jacki on Tue, 11 August 2020, 19:30:57
Post by: Sabin on Sat, 15 August 2020, 13:42:44
This kit with the sublegends is beautiful, I really hope it gets made, it's not too crowded at all, the sizing for the text is perfect!
Post by: Skok on Sat, 15 August 2020, 14:07:40
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This kit with the sublegends is beautiful, I really hope it gets made, it's not too crowded at all, the sizing for the text is perfect!
Thank you! I've been working super hard on it. Check back between Monday and Wednesday, I'll try to have much the IC updated by then. Trying to get done some more done today before I head into work.
Post by: VagueOrigin on Sat, 15 August 2020, 14:29:42
The mono legends are tough! Fits the theme perfectly imo. Im in! So in, i actually bought a board just to display this setPatiently waiting for the GB to start :'(Working on it!
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Post by: Skok on Sat, 15 August 2020, 14:36:00
I love the mono legends too. Way more than the subs IMO but I gotta put up both for now because they're equally requested. Maybe some new renders will help people decide on one or the other.The mono legends are tough! Fits the theme perfectly imo. Im in! So in, i actually bought a board just to display this setPatiently waiting for the GB to start :'(Working on it!
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Post by: uncleakamai on Sat, 15 August 2020, 15:12:45
Post by: ImIrish on Sat, 15 August 2020, 15:25:58
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sat, 15 August 2020, 16:17:46
Post by: Skok on Sat, 15 August 2020, 18:12:18
Please consider using OG icon mods :thumb:OG icon mods? Can you link a pic?
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Post by: Jacki on Sat, 15 August 2020, 19:27:09
Now...Release it!
Post by: Skok on Sat, 15 August 2020, 19:35:50
I love the rune alphas.We're getting there. Things are looking really good at the moment.
Now...Release it!
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Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 16 August 2020, 00:39:37
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Post by: Skok on Sun, 16 August 2020, 00:45:36
Ya know.. just plain icon mods. Not janglad/dixie centered icon modsLmao. Its literally just human error. The base kit I downloaded from GTRX didn't have certain icons in certain places so I replaced them myself.
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Post by: harlekein on Sun, 16 August 2020, 11:57:00
Post by: Skok on Sun, 16 August 2020, 12:50:16
If base kit does become mono legend (which I hope) please consider full icon mods. I think the latin mod text would clash with the runes.I'll consider it but I've never been a fan of the full icon mods. I'll look into it
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Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 16 August 2020, 15:44:05
Ya know.. just plain icon mods. Not janglad/dixie centered icon modsLmao. Its literally just human error. The base kit I downloaded from GTRX didn't have certain icons in certain places so I replaced them myself.
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Sweet! I know designers are choosing either or so I'm glad you are using og ones. I would recommend getting the ones you plan using on final renders. Looking forward to the set! The colors are looking great :thumb:
Post by: leifsi on Sun, 16 August 2020, 21:22:06
Post by: VagueOrigin on Sun, 16 August 2020, 21:40:42
Personally I would change all the numbers to futhark, leave non futhark alphas blank and use icon only modifiers.Oh you tryna be a VIKING huh, that sounds hard
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Post by: Skok on Sun, 16 August 2020, 21:49:25
Personally I would change all the numbers to futhark, leave non futhark alphas blank and use icon only modifiers.A bit too extreme for me to be honest. Ill look into to icon only mods but I'm not leaving blank caps
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Post by: Stanley.Bishop on Mon, 17 August 2020, 03:43:50
Post by: Solotov on Mon, 17 August 2020, 10:13:42
Post by: Techichi on Mon, 17 August 2020, 10:52:40
Post by: jontseg on Mon, 17 August 2020, 11:10:40
(https://imgur.com/NEqZbe8)
I really like the little twisty line engraving on the side of the axe blade,
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I think it makes the axe stand out as very "Viking", but I think the hammer isn't quite hitting the same note. A suggestion could be to make some little sparks of electricity emanate from the hammer, letting us know "hey this this Thor's hammer". This could definately make the cap cluttered so the exact implementation of how to make it more "Viking" could be anything. I am 100% in on this keyset due to the Rune sublegends/alphas though :D
Post by: Skok on Mon, 17 August 2020, 11:19:13
Hey I love the idea you are going for with the novelties, but have a slight issue with the hammer. To me, it doesn't seem extremely obvious that the hammer is supposed to be a hammer.Show Image(https://imgur.com/NEqZbe8)
I really like the little twisty line engraving on the side of the axe blade,Show Image(https://imgur.com/2f9OVkG)
I think it makes the axe stand out as very "Viking", but I think the hammer isn't quite hitting the same note. A suggestion could be to make some little sparks of electricity emanate from the hammer, letting us know "hey this this Thor's hammer". This could definately make the cap cluttered so the exact implementation of how to make it more "Viking" could be anything. I am 100% in on this keyset due to the Rune sublegends/alphas though :D
hmmm might be a good idea. I'll look into it
Post by: Nudd on Mon, 17 August 2020, 11:29:38
Hey I love the idea you are going for with the novelties, but have a slight issue with the hammer. To me, it doesn't seem extremely obvious that the hammer is supposed to be a hammer.Show Image(https://imgur.com/NEqZbe8)
I really like the little twisty line engraving on the side of the axe blade,Show Image(https://imgur.com/2f9OVkG)
I think it makes the axe stand out as very "Viking", but I think the hammer isn't quite hitting the same note. A suggestion could be to make some little sparks of electricity emanate from the hammer, letting us know "hey this this Thor's hammer". This could definately make the cap cluttered so the exact implementation of how to make it more "Viking" could be anything. I am 100% in on this keyset due to the Rune sublegends/alphas though :D
hmmm might be a good idea. I'll look into it
The hammer is spot on....... The axe is not a viking axe.
Post by: atnentec on Mon, 17 August 2020, 13:21:16
Wanted to ask one thing though. I really like the colorway, but unfortunately I seem to be in the minority that is not keen on the runic alphas (either variant). I see the plan is to still have latin alphas sold as a separate kit. Is it the case that if not enough people order the latin alpha kit, they won't be made? If yes, is there some way for me to ensure that I either get the base kit + latin alphas or nothing? For example, wait until its confirmed that the latin alphas *are* going to get made before committing my money to the group buy? Is there going to be such a confirmation before the GB is over?
Post by: Retne on Mon, 17 August 2020, 13:35:41
Post by: Skok on Mon, 17 August 2020, 13:39:50
New to the keeb world and this one might be my first (or at least one of the first, my poor wallet...) group buy :D.
Wanted to ask one thing though. I really like the colorway, but unfortunately I seem to be in the minority that is not keen on the runic alphas (either variant). I see the plan is to still have latin alphas sold as a separate kit. Is it the case that if not enough people order the latin alpha kit, they won't be made? If yes, is there some way for me to ensure that I either get the base kit + latin alphas or nothing? For example, wait until its confirmed that the latin alphas *are* going to get made before committing my money to the group buy? Is there going to be such a confirmation before the GB is over?
Typically the vendors will supply the designer with the numbers of sales for each kit throughout the GB stage and then the interest check usually gets updated with a graph. You could theoretically wait until the kits you want hit MoQ if you don't want the rune alphas. The base kit will most likely hit MoQ with enough interest but the Latin alphas may not because most people seem to be interested in the Runes. Once the GB starts I would just check this page as I will update it with the numbers as other designers have done.
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Mon, 17 August 2020, 13:55:45
New to the keeb world and this one might be my first (or at least one of the first, my poor wallet...) group buy :D.You may know this already, but just in case... If you buy the Latin alphas and they miss MOQ and will not be made, you will get a full refund for that kit. It also shouldn't be a problem for any of the vendors to just cancel your whole order at that point, if desired.
Wanted to ask one thing though. I really like the colorway, but unfortunately I seem to be in the minority that is not keen on the runic alphas (either variant). I see the plan is to still have latin alphas sold as a separate kit. Is it the case that if not enough people order the latin alpha kit, they won't be made? If yes, is there some way for me to ensure that I either get the base kit + latin alphas or nothing? For example, wait until its confirmed that the latin alphas *are* going to get made before committing my money to the group buy? Is there going to be such a confirmation before the GB is over?
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Post by: Skok on Mon, 17 August 2020, 14:42:21
Lovely, possible to have runic equivalents for NorDe set? Kind of locked in for homogeneity with NorDe. Would love to have it all runic !
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This was one of my concerns. I don't think it would be possible. MoQ is already going to be quite high because of the new molds and NorDe kits are already quite difficult to sell in the first place. Now that I think about it, it may just make sense to cut some of the keys with latin legends from the norde kit but still keep Æ, Ä, Ø, Ö, Å. That might be stupid but I'm just throwing ideas out there. Let me know if that makes sense.
Post by: fooddoof on Mon, 17 August 2020, 17:26:05
Post by: SpinningHook on Mon, 17 August 2020, 18:39:23
Post by: frozenthai on Mon, 17 August 2020, 20:49:58
Prefer the mono and think that's what makes sets like this more complete theme-wise.
I also agree the normal Norde legends sadly clash a bit.
Post by: Drakenocas on Mon, 17 August 2020, 21:04:01
Post by: Skok on Mon, 17 August 2020, 21:25:10
I may have missed it, but when is this expected to go to market if the IC gets enough interest?
There's not a set date yet the but earliest would be January-February according to my vendors.
Post by: VagueOrigin on Mon, 17 August 2020, 22:25:48
This saddens me, but makes me happy all at the same time lolI may have missed it, but when is this expected to go to market if the IC gets enough interest?
There's not a set date yet the but earliest would be January-February according to my vendors.
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Post by: nbesa on Tue, 18 August 2020, 00:14:54
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Post by: VagueOrigin on Tue, 18 August 2020, 05:35:03
I really like the Rune sub legends, looking pretty good! The full runes look a bit confusing and I am not as big as a fan, but can understand why people like them.You have your opinion of course, but I never understood the confusion myself. Do a lot of ppl not touch type? Actually nvm... I guess touch typing isn't a requirement in this hobby.
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Post by: harlekein on Tue, 18 August 2020, 06:55:22
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You'd be surprised. But for anyone who cannot touch type: consider the Runic alphas an invitation to learn. You'll be glad for it.
Post by: Pizza_on_Pineapple on Tue, 18 August 2020, 10:52:33
Post by: nbesa on Tue, 18 August 2020, 11:35:22
I really like the Rune sub legends, looking pretty good! The full runes look a bit confusing and I am not as big as a fan, but can understand why people like them.You have your opinion of course, but I never understood the confusion myself. Do a lot of ppl not touch type? Actually nvm... I guess touch typing isn't a requirement in this hobby.
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I can touch type, albeit I am a slow typer, but personally I don't like sets where the base alphas are not intelligible on their own. If it's another kit, I'm all for it for the people that really like it. I lovee the runes as sub legends and I think they look better, but as I said in my other post, it's just my opinion.
Post by: VagueOrigin on Tue, 18 August 2020, 11:36:26
Oh of course, agreedI really like the Rune sub legends, looking pretty good! The full runes look a bit confusing and I am not as big as a fan, but can understand why people like them.You have your opinion of course, but I never understood the confusion myself. Do a lot of ppl not touch type? Actually nvm... I guess touch typing isn't a requirement in this hobby.
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I can touch type, albeit I am a slow typer, but personally I don't like sets where the base alphas are not intelligible on their own. If it's another kit, I'm all for it for the people that really like it. I lovee the runes as sub legends and I think they look better, but as I said in my other post, it's just my opinion.
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Post by: wynects on Tue, 18 August 2020, 11:36:36
Post by: Skok on Tue, 18 August 2020, 11:43:48
IC filled. Take my cash please! ;D sexy classy
Haha, thanks for filling out the form it really helps!
Post by: Techlet on Tue, 18 August 2020, 14:35:47
You have your opinion of course, but I never understood the confusion myself. Do a lot of ppl not touch type? Actually nvm... I guess touch typing isn't a requirement in this hobby.
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That's good for you but some people just prefer the aesthetic of sublegends over mono.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 19 August 2020, 08:31:56
I really like the Rune sub legends, looking pretty good! The full runes look a bit confusing and I am not as big as a fan, but can understand why people like them.You have your opinion of course, but I never understood the confusion myself. Do a lot of ppl not touch type? Actually nvm... I guess touch typing isn't a requirement in this hobby.
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Post by: NotFai on Wed, 19 August 2020, 16:13:00
Post by: VagueOrigin on Wed, 19 August 2020, 17:33:16
I really like the Rune sub legends, looking pretty good! The full runes look a bit confusing and I am not as big as a fan, but can understand why people like them.You have your opinion of course, but I never understood the confusion myself. Do a lot of ppl not touch type? Actually nvm... I guess touch typing isn't a requirement in this hobby.
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Be constructive and keep your comments related to the set characteristics. Criticizing others is out of topic, in the thread, and the site.
Where did I critique anyone? I said he has his opinion and how I type is not a requirement. It wasn't sarcasm. Not seeing where I shot anyone down. Simply said I didn't understand why the mono was confusing to some. Which is ABOUT the mono legend set offered. And then even said I agreed fully with his opinion. Throughly confused... days ago might I add..
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Post by: ansgarH on Fri, 21 August 2020, 18:41:11
Post by: Skok on Fri, 21 August 2020, 18:48:56
will this be available in Eu as well?Yes.
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Post by: konstantin on Fri, 21 August 2020, 19:21:17
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Hi, writing system nerd here. I'm curious as to where you got these runes from — they don't seem to be Elder nor Younger Futhark, nor Anglo-Saxon. Runes and shapes from different systems, locales and time periods appear to be mixed, some runes are duplicated and some are missing; it's a bit of a potpourri at the moment. It also looks like you invented a few runes of your own by flipping/modifying the existing ones? :D
Since you've chosen to base the legends on the Elder Futhark according to the OP, why not use XDA Canvas's runic kit as a reference? That one seems to have a pretty reasonable layout that's based on the Elder Futhark. It duplicates ᚹ (W/V) and ᚲ (K/C), but that's to be expected as those runes are commonly transcribed both ways (and there are only 24 runes in total anyway).
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Post by: Skok on Fri, 21 August 2020, 19:52:11
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Hi, writing system nerd here. I'm curious as to where you got these runes from — they don't seem to be Elder nor Younger Futhark, nor Anglo-Saxon. Runes and shapes from different systems, locales and time periods appear to be mixed, some runes are duplicated and some are missing; it's a bit of a potpourri at the moment. It also looks like you invented a few runes of your own by flipping/modifying the existing ones? :D
Since you've chosen to base the legends on the Elder Futhark according to the OP, why not use XDA Canvas's runic kit as a reference? That one seems to have a pretty reasonable layout that's based on the Elder Futhark. It duplicates ᚹ (W/V) and ᚲ (K/C), but that's to be expected as those runes are commonly transcribed both ways (and there are only 24 runes in total anyway).Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/massdrop-x-mito-canvas-xda-custom-keycap-set/FP/ewYj4DRJR0mZCb0PRSz4_rams.jpg)
In the video I linked at the bottom of the IC, it is explained how two runes could be used to express how one letter sounds in modern English. Maybe I was wrong lol, I probably am. I was also mixing runes because I wanted to go with Younger Futhark because it was the runic alphabet used by the vikings but does not have enough characters to fill up the latin equivalents, therefore I was filling in with elder futhark. For consistency it might be better to go with all elder futhark. Thanks for pointing that out!
Post by: FireLock on Sat, 22 August 2020, 01:26:22
I mean yeah, sure if that somewhere indicates that one will be able to rune out a whole NorDe keeb, would def. pay extra to have that possibilityLovely, possible to have runic equivalents for NorDe set? Kind of locked in for homogeneity with NorDe. Would love to have it all runic !
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This was one of my concerns. I don't think it would be possible. MoQ is already going to be quite high because of the new molds and NorDe kits are already quite difficult to sell in the first place. Now that I think about it, it may just make sense to cut some of the keys with latin legends from the norde kit but still keep Æ, Ä, Ø, Ö, Å. That might be stupid but I'm just throwing ideas out there. Let me know if that makes sense.
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Post by: Frufsa on Sat, 22 August 2020, 11:26:14
Annyway. Looks sick. Deffinitly gonna buy it.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 22 August 2020, 22:15:06
I really like the Rune sub legends, looking pretty good! The full runes look a bit confusing and I am not as big as a fan, but can understand why people like them.You have your opinion of course, but I never understood the confusion myself. Do a lot of ppl not touch type? Actually nvm... I guess touch typing isn't a requirement in this hobby.
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Be constructive and keep your comments related to the set characteristics. Criticizing others is out of topic, in the thread, and the site.
Where did I critique anyone? I said he has his opinion and how I type is not a requirement. It wasn't sarcasm. Not seeing where I shot anyone down. Simply said I didn't understand why the mono was confusing to some. Which is ABOUT the mono legend set offered. And then even said I agreed fully with his opinion. Throughly confused... days ago might I add..
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Fair enough.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 22 August 2020, 22:16:13
Post by: Skok on Sun, 23 August 2020, 08:30:55
Is the alpha color in this set any close to CC in Dolch?As of now I cant really give you a good reference. I'm waiting on my stock color ring to get delivered as well as my RAL Swatches. The alpha color in my set is definitely a cooler grey though.
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Post by: Alchemist Keyboards on Sun, 23 August 2020, 10:03:50
Post by: ideus on Sun, 23 August 2020, 11:47:44
Is the alpha color in this set any close to CC in Dolch?As of now I cant really give you a good reference. I'm waiting on my stock color ring to get delivered as well as my RAL Swatches. The alpha color in my set is definitely a cooler grey though.
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Thank you for the answer. I thought it's norde set would fit my OG Dolch set; but, may be not.
Post by: Skok on Sun, 23 August 2020, 11:50:25
I'm looking at a possible stock N9 instead of ral 9004. Ill look at CC as well but I don't think it would fit too well, we'll see. I'm gonna do some comparisons when everything comes in. I'll make sure to post pics tooIs the alpha color in this set any close to CC in Dolch?As of now I cant really give you a good reference. I'm waiting on my stock color ring to get delivered as well as my RAL Swatches. The alpha color in my set is definitely a cooler grey though.
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Thank you for the answer. I thought it's norde set would fit my OG Dolch set; but, may be not.
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Post by: ideus on Sun, 23 August 2020, 14:39:05
I'm looking at a possible stock N9 instead of ral 9004. Ill look at CC as well but I don't think it would fit too well, we'll see. I'm gonna do some comparisons when everything comes in. I'll make sure to post pics tooIs the alpha color in this set any close to CC in Dolch?As of now I cant really give you a good reference. I'm waiting on my stock color ring to get delivered as well as my RAL Swatches. The alpha color in my set is definitely a cooler grey though.
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Thank you for the answer. I thought it's norde set would fit my OG Dolch set; but, may be not.
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By any means, you should care for your design goals. Having compatibility with other sets is secondary, at best. Besides, my need is very egotistic, as I have this brand new Dolch set that has not seen the light since it was made, because I am a Swedish layout user and it is ANSI. But I really appreciate your helpful answer.
Post by: LeandreN on Sun, 23 August 2020, 14:42:02
Post by: donan on Sun, 23 August 2020, 16:33:53
now just need a mekanisk keyboard to match xD
Post by: Skok on Sun, 23 August 2020, 16:42:41
Dude! OMG i'm gonna buy almost all of this no question about it!Me too. I'm trying to get my hands on fjell. Patiently waiting for R6. Glad you like the set!
now just need a mekanisk keyboard to match xD
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Post by: Skok on Sun, 23 August 2020, 16:43:30
Looks very nice, love the colors :)Thanks Leandre!
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Post by: Skok on Sun, 23 August 2020, 17:15:50
I still wanna check what it looks like with CC either way. I thought it was more of an olive color in the pictures.I'm looking at a possible stock N9 instead of ral 9004. Ill look at CC as well but I don't think it would fit too well, we'll see. I'm gonna do some comparisons when everything comes in. I'll make sure to post pics tooIs the alpha color in this set any close to CC in Dolch?As of now I cant really give you a good reference. I'm waiting on my stock color ring to get delivered as well as my RAL Swatches. The alpha color in my set is definitely a cooler grey though.
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Thank you for the answer. I thought it's norde set would fit my OG Dolch set; but, may be not.
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By any means, you should care for your design goals. Having compatibility with other sets is secondary, at best. Besides, my need is very egotistic, as I have this brand new Dolch set that has not seen the light since it was made, because I am a Swedish layout user and it is ANSI. But I really appreciate your helpful answer.
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Post by: konstantin on Mon, 24 August 2020, 02:10:08
Woukd have loved if ot had rune numbers aswell, the runes looks a bit «thrown» in there with only the alphas beeing runes. Would also love if the nordig characters used runes aswell.Runic numerals don't really exist. The vikings usually spelled out their numbers (e.g. “five” instead of “5”). There's a certain type of numerals that was used together with runes later in history, but it's not runes per se. I think it's good as is, without the numbers, the rune legends just need to be updated to be more consistent, as mentioned previously.
Looks very nice, love the colors :)This set might pair quite well with a certain Norwegian mountain-inspired keyboard I know... :D
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 24 August 2020, 04:49:23
In the video I linked at the bottom of the IC, it is explained how two runes could be used to express how one letter sounds in modern English. Maybe I was wrong lol, I probably am. I was also mixing runes because I wanted to go with Younger Futhark because it was the runic alphabet used by the vikings but does not have enough characters to fill up the latin equivalents, therefore I was filling in with elder futhark. For consistency it might be better to go with all elder futhark. Thanks for pointing that out!
I wouldn't approach making a runic keyboard layout as an attempt to write English using runes. Instead, you're making a keyboard layout for a different language and a different writing system, just using QWERTY as a starting point for the positions of keys. Therefore, it makes sense to include all of the characters used in that writing system, but there's no need to make digraphs like ᚴᛋ to emulate English X.
The visual style of the current rune legends is good. I'd just switch to Elder Futhark to avoid issues like this and provide a consistent solution (and also because people voted for it). I'd do this despite the Vikings' Younger Futhark being the main inspiration for the set.
Speaking of Younger Futhark, I noticed some issues with the spelling of the novelty legends:
| Current legend (wrong/missing underlined) | Corrected legend | Old Norse word | Younger Futhark spelling (reference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Futhark#Long-branch_runes)) | Examples (runic inscriptions etc.) | Remarks |
| ᛅᛋᛁᚱ | ᚬᛋᛁᛦ | æsir | ąsiʀ | video (https://youtu.be/X7Z65582ex4?t=555) SlB 3 (https://www.runesdb.eu/advanced-queries/d/fa/q/16~1%7D%2C%7B21~7/973180930/1~2/8/f/1268/s/3/c/1eedcd0405dacf8f5a80d03e74c91215/) | R in grammatical endings is spelled with ᛦ/ʀ (Yr) instead of ᚱ/r (Raido). It is debatable whether æsir is spelled with ᚬ/ą or ᛅ/a, but ᚬ/ą appears to be more likely as the root word is nasal áss (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A1ss#Etymology_3) (ᚬᛋ/ąs). |
| ᚼᚬᛚᚼ ᛁᛘᛅ | ᚼᛁᛚᚼᛅᛁᛘᛦ | Helheimr | hilhaimʀ | G 392 (https://www.runesdb.eu/advanced-queries/d/fa/q/16~1%7D%2C%7B21~7/973180930/1~2/8/f/5446/s/3/c/1eedcd0405dacf8f5a80d03e74c91215/) image (https://i.imgur.com/JjrdVMA.png) | Just Hel is encountered more frequently than Helheimr. If you have trouble fitting this legend on the key, you can use ᚼᛁᛚᚼᛁᛘᛦ instead (without the ᛅ/a). This is also an acceptable spelling. |
| ᛘᛁᛏᚴ ᚱᛏ | ᛘᛁᚦᚴᛅᚱᚦᛦ | Miðgarðr | miþkarþʀ | Sö 56 (https://www.runesdb.eu/advanced-queries/d/fa/q/16~1%7D%2C%7B21~7/973180930/1~2/8/f/4639/s/3/c/1eedcd0405dacf8f5a80d03e74c91215/) image (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Midgard_%28S%C3%B6_56%2C_Fyrby%29.jpg) | Shown in the dative form (Miðgarði “in Midgard”) in the inscription. The base, nominative form is Miðgarðr (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Mi%C3%B0gar%C3%B0r#Old_Norse). |
You can use this chart as a quick reference when choosing the appropriate runes for your vowels:
(https://ordstirr.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/vowel-chart1.png)
Not shown here is ᚬ/ą, which is used for nasal vowels. This page (https://ordstirr.wordpress.com/runes/younger-futhark-vowels-%E1%9A%A2-u-%E1%9B%81-i-and-%E1%9B%85-a/) has more information.
Here's another useful chart:
(http://www.runforum.nordiska.uu.se/runecast/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2018/09/futharks.png)
Post by: Skok on Mon, 24 August 2020, 09:50:43
In the video I linked at the bottom of the IC, it is explained how two runes could be used to express how one letter sounds in modern English. Maybe I was wrong lol, I probably am. I was also mixing runes because I wanted to go with Younger Futhark because it was the runic alphabet used by the vikings but does not have enough characters to fill up the latin equivalents, therefore I was filling in with elder futhark. For consistency it might be better to go with all elder futhark. Thanks for pointing that out!
I wouldn't approach making a runic keyboard layout as an attempt to write English using runes. Instead, you're making a keyboard layout for a different language and a different writing system, just using QWERTY as a starting point for the positions of keys. Therefore, it makes sense to include all of the characters used in that writing system, but there's no need to make digraphs like ᚴᛋ to emulate English X.
The visual style of the current rune legends is good. I'd just switch to Elder Futhark to avoid issues like this and provide a consistent solution (and also because people voted for it), despite the Vikings' Younger Futhark being the main inspiration for the set.
Speaking of Younger Futhark, I noticed some issues with the spelling of the novelty legends:
Current legend
(wrong/missing underlined)Corrected legend Old Norse word Younger Futhark spelling
(reference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Futhark#Long-branch_runes))Examples
(runic inscriptions etc.)Remarks ᛅᛋᛁᚱ ᚬᛋᛁᛦ æsir ąsiʀ video (https://youtu.be/X7Z65582ex4?t=555)
SlB 3 (https://www.runesdb.eu/advanced-queries/d/fa/q/16~1%7D%2C%7B21~7/973180930/1~2/8/f/1268/s/3/c/1eedcd0405dacf8f5a80d03e74c91215/)R in grammatical endings is spelled with ᛦ/ʀ (Yr) instead of ᚱ/r (Raido).
It is debatable whether æsir is spelled with ᚬ/ą or ᛅ/a, but ᚬ/ą appears to be more likely as the root word is nasal áss (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A1ss#Etymology_3) (ᚬᛋ/ąs).ᚼᚬᛚᚼ ᛁᛘᛅ ᚼᛁᛚᚼᛅᛁᛘᛦ Helheimr hilhaimʀ G 392 (https://www.runesdb.eu/advanced-queries/d/fa/q/16~1%7D%2C%7B21~7/973180930/1~2/8/f/5446/s/3/c/1eedcd0405dacf8f5a80d03e74c91215/)
image (https://i.imgur.com/JjrdVMA.png)Just Hel is encountered more frequently than Helheimr.
If you have trouble fitting this legend on the key, you can use ᚼᛁᛚᚼᛁᛘᛦ instead (without the ᛅ/a). This is also an acceptable spelling.ᛘᛁᛏᚴ ᚱᛏ ᛘᛁᚦᚴᛅᚱᚦᛦ Miðgarðr miþkarþʀ Sö 56 (https://www.runesdb.eu/advanced-queries/d/fa/q/16~1%7D%2C%7B21~7/973180930/1~2/8/f/4639/s/3/c/1eedcd0405dacf8f5a80d03e74c91215/)
image (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Midgard_%28S%C3%B6_56%2C_Fyrby%29.jpg)Shown in the dative form (Miðgarði “in Midgard”) in the inscription. The base, nominative form is Miðgarðr (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Mi%C3%B0gar%C3%B0r#Old_Norse).
You can use this chart as a quick reference when choosing the appropriate runes for your vowels:Show Image(https://ordstirr.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/vowel-chart1.png)
Not shown here is ᚬ/ą, which is used for nasal vowels. This page (https://ordstirr.wordpress.com/runes/younger-futhark-vowels-%E1%9A%A2-u-%E1%9B%81-i-and-%E1%9B%85-a/) has more information.
Here's another useful chart:Show Image(http://www.runforum.nordiska.uu.se/runecast/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2018/09/futharks.png)
This is a godsend! I'll work to correct everything today. Would it be okay if I PMed you sometime in the next few days to ensure the accuracy of everything before I update the post again?
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 24 August 2020, 12:38:38
This is a godsend! I'll work to correct everything today. Would it be okay if I PMed you sometime in the next few days to ensure the accuracy of everything before I update the post again?
Sure thing, feel free to contact me via PMs or (preferably) Discord.
Post by: Sabin on Tue, 25 August 2020, 11:54:03
Post by: Skok on Tue, 25 August 2020, 12:53:14
Did you decide if you wanted to try and do an all icon modifier set as well or was there not a lot of interest?I havent gotten around to rendering it yet. I've had to pick up some more hours at work this week but what I have done os redesigned the runes to fit gmk spec. So when I do the renders with the new runes I'll try the icon mods.
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Post by: grimis on Tue, 25 August 2020, 15:38:43
Post by: Skok on Tue, 25 August 2020, 15:51:32
I haven't checked this out in a little bit but really happy to see the alphas going back to the lighter shade of black and those runic alphas look amaaaaazing. This is an instant buy for me.Happy to hear you like the all the changes that I've made to the set. Thanks for the support!
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Post by: Skok on Tue, 25 August 2020, 15:54:25
Looking forward to this one. Feels refreshing after so many sets with hiragana/katakana subs.IMO theres too many weeb kits nowawdays. Some are really nice but personally I wanted to do something truly unique and thanks to this community we've made it into what it is now.
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Post by: Techichi on Wed, 26 August 2020, 09:38:38
Looking forward to this one. Feels refreshing after so many sets with hiragana/katakana subs.IMO theres too many weeb kits nowawdays. Some are really nice but personally I wanted to do something truly unique and thanks to this community we've made it into what it is now.
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Amazing! Hopefully more people see this set and try new things as well.
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Post by: Skok on Mon, 31 August 2020, 16:16:29
can any estimations be done about when this might go on sale? absolutely looking forward for the NorDeUk, base, novelty and latin alpha kit for my first build. only thing I am missing are keycaps.
There is no tentative date yet. Still working on the set.
Post by: ansgarH on Mon, 31 August 2020, 16:33:32
can any estimations be done about when this might go on sale? absolutely looking forward for the NorDeUk, base, novelty and latin alpha kit for my first build. only thing I am missing are keycaps.
There is no tentative date yet. Still working on the set.
that means it definitely will take quite some time until it even comes to sale; right? I have never followed a groupbuy like this before. thank you!
Post by: Skok on Mon, 31 August 2020, 16:52:35
can any estimations be done about when this might go on sale? absolutely looking forward for the NorDeUk, base, novelty and latin alpha kit for my first build. only thing I am missing are keycaps.
There is no tentative date yet. Still working on the set.
that means it definitely will take quite some time until it even comes to sale; right? I have never followed a groupbuy like this before. thank you!
Yeah. The set is like 80 percent ready but there is still stuff that needs to be ironed out and fixed. It'll be a couple months before the groupbuy starts and even then you have to wait until it gets manufactured.
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Post by: DirtyChebacca on Fri, 04 September 2020, 01:41:34
link to rune numbers: https://nordicwiccan.blogspot.com/2014/02/numbers-rune.html
Love the set so Far! can't wait for the set to go live!
Post by: konstantin on Fri, 04 September 2020, 04:55:51
I don't know if this has been addressed already in the thread, but could we also get a rune numbers for the top number row, or the rune numbers below the Latin numbers?
link to rune numbers: https://nordicwiccan.blogspot.com/2014/02/numbers-rune.html
Love the set so Far! can't wait for the set to go live!
The first image in that article is completely inaccurate. As for pentimal, it was developed much later in history, and so it would be anachronistic to include it in a set that uses the Elder and Younger Futharks and is based around Vikings. Also, although those symbols may look the part, they aren't runic in nature.
Runic numerals don't really exist. The vikings usually spelled out their numbers (e.g. “five” instead of “5”). There's a certain type of numerals that was used together with runes later in history, but it's not runes per se. I think it's good as is, without the numbers, the rune legends just need to be updated to be more consistent, as mentioned previously.
Post by: Nudd on Fri, 04 September 2020, 05:14:39
I don't know if this has been addressed already in the thread, but could we also get a rune numbers for the top number row, or the rune numbers below the Latin numbers?
link to rune numbers: https://nordicwiccan.blogspot.com/2014/02/numbers-rune.html
Love the set so Far! can't wait for the set to go live!
The first image in that article is completely inaccurate. As for pentimal, it was developed much later in history, and so it would be anachronistic to include it in a set that uses the Elder and Younger Futharks and is based around Vikings. Also, although those symbols may look the part, they aren't runic in nature.Runic numerals don't really exist. The vikings usually spelled out their numbers (e.g. “five” instead of “5”). There's a certain type of numerals that was used together with runes later in history, but it's not runes per se. I think it's good as is, without the numbers, the rune legends just need to be updated to be more consistent, as mentioned previously.
Spot on
Post by: CustomerSupport on Wed, 09 September 2020, 01:57:07
Post by: Skok on Wed, 09 September 2020, 07:17:01
I noticed the Backspace; looks like a non-standard icon. Was this intentional?At the time of making the renders I didn't have access to the correct icon so I had the smaller arrow from the text mods. I do have the correct icons now but I haven't updated renders until I finish color matching.
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Post by: Sabin on Sat, 12 September 2020, 05:24:30
Also do you have a photo of the modifier colour wheel? would be interested to see what it looks like
(https://i.imgur.com/BRATd06.jpg)
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Post by: harlekein on Sat, 12 September 2020, 07:37:12
Hopefully we'll see rune mono legends in KAT soon.
Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 07:53:07
man i had selected sub-legend in the IC form but while browsing just a few minutes ago i realized how much i liked the mono. the mod color in the new renders is interesting albeit not as desirable personally. GLwGB!The mod color was originally RAL 220 20 10 in the renders. I was using a Hex equivalent from RALs website but then realized it way darker than excepted in real life. 220 20 20 is definitely the color I want for this set. The compression really doesn't help either and makes it look more blue than indigo despite in blender it matched perfectly to what my eye saw.
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Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 07:55:09
not sure i will ever have a case to match this kit, but just wanna let you know that i'm totally rooting for this set. one of the most beautiful, clean and classy ones out there!Thank you so much for your support it means a lot!
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Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 08:00:57
Hmm.. been asking my friends to fill out the IC form and all of the chose rune monolegends, was pretty confident it was gonna be the majority. But since it was the complete opposite. Will rune monolegends be added as a choice separated from the base kit? Also because alpha monolegends is a choice separated from the base kit. Even if it's not included with the base kit I'd love to have the option to get the rune monos separately. I really feel it goes with the whole norse theme.I would love for there to be an option for rune monos and subs too. It would have to have more interest. About 300 people chose rune monos, you can't assume that every single one of those people will buy. 550 people chose rune subs so there's a greater percentage of people from that group buying in. In reality both are going to have high a MoQ so there's always one won't make the cut.
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Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 08:04:51
I'm glad the sublegends are more popular as thats what I prefer but just wondering if the size of the sublegends will be the same as the Latin Characters like in the new render? I think it looked a bit better in the previous render where they were slightly smaller.Yeah they may need to be made a little bit smaller. I've tried taking pictures of thr RAL on my s10 but I just can't get it to match what I see in real life even after some color editing. I dont want to post a picture of it that ends up being misleading because it doesn't even represent what the color actually looks like.
Also do you have a photo of the modifier colour wheel? would be interested to see what it looks likeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/BRATd06.jpg)
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Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 08:07:32
Sublegends are a dealbreaker for me. GL!I'm sad to hear that but I completely understand. Monos are my choice too and I suprised that the interest just isn't too high for it. Stick around though because things can always change.
Hopefully we'll see rune mono legends in KAT soon.
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Post by: ideus on Sat, 12 September 2020, 09:46:24
Post by: Techichi on Sat, 12 September 2020, 09:53:56
Yikes, looks so cluttered now that its sub legend. A separate mono runes would make it a must buy for me!
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Same here. Although it doesn't look good. :(
I wish Skok the best with his set though. I'll continue to watch in hopes for a mono rune set. 🤞
Edit: I'm still in for that sick desk mat though!
Post by: FootFingers on Sat, 12 September 2020, 10:12:04
Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 10:21:14
Were the mono legends removed? I was still really interested in those.I'll post some renders with the new colors tomorrow. I was updating everything at like 2am.
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Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 10:23:08
Everyone is saying subs don't look good but its still the greater majority by a mile on the google form responses which is best way for me gage interest from the community. This is where my confusion stems from. As mentioned before I will be posting mono renders with the updated colors tomorrow.Yikes, looks so cluttered now that its sub legend. A separate mono runes would make it a must buy for me!
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Same here. Although it doesn't look good. :(
I wish Skok the best with his set though. I'll continue to watch in hopes for a mono rune set.
Edit: I'm still in for that sick desk mat though!
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Post by: FootFingers on Sat, 12 September 2020, 14:44:25
Post by: FootFingers on Sat, 12 September 2020, 14:47:45
Everyone is saying subs don't look good but its still the greater majority by a mile on the google form responses which is best way for me gage interest from the community. This is where my confusion stems from. As mentioned before I will be posting mono renders with the updated colors tomorrow.Yikes, looks so cluttered now that its sub legend. A separate mono runes would make it a must buy for me!
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Same here. Although it doesn't look good. :(
I wish Skok the best with his set though. I'll continue to watch in hopes for a mono rune set.
Edit: I'm still in for that sick desk mat though!
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Thanks for taking a look, even if the mono legends were an additional set of alphas I think many would be interested. Best of luck with it, and looking forward to the renders.
Post by: hottrout on Sat, 12 September 2020, 15:02:24
Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 15:41:06
Yeah I'm assuming moq would be 250 for both sets but then it would be 52 new molds for the alphas so the price would probably be pretty high. But I dont want to rule anything out yet. Hence why I said for now Monos won't be favored unless more people show interest.Everyone is saying subs don't look good but its still the greater majority by a mile on the google form responses which is best way for me gage interest from the community. This is where my confusion stems from. As mentioned before I will be posting mono renders with the updated colors tomorrow.Yikes, looks so cluttered now that its sub legend. A separate mono runes would make it a must buy for me!
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Same here. Although it doesn't look good. :(
I wish Skok the best with his set though. I'll continue to watch in hopes for a mono rune set.
Edit: I'm still in for that sick desk mat though!
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Thanks for taking a look, even if the mono legends were an additional set of alphas I think many would be interested. Best of luck with it, and looking forward to the renders.
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Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 15:42:30
Great colours. Loving this set the more it progresses.Thank you. With each iteration it slowly feels closer and closer to a finished product. Epsecially now that I did some color matching.
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Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 16:25:24
Any chance of changing the keyset colors to the colors that were used in the old renders? Those colors were so awesomeI assume ur talking about the blue mods. Believe it or not its based on RAL 220 20 20 instead of 220 20 10 which is the original I intended. When I got the RAL design book in person I realized 20 10 was way too dark so I chose 20 20 which is a really nice indigo color. There really isn't any RAL equivalent that I like for the mods that matches the original renders. They are either to bright or too blue. Hope that clears things up.
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Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 16:29:39
Any chance of changing the keyset colors to the colors that were used in the old renders? Those colors were so awesomeEdit: it is also a bit lighter in real life than in renders I'll work to fix that tomorrow as well
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Post by: DuellM on Sat, 12 September 2020, 17:05:08
Oh cool I was hoping for a lighter colorAny chance of changing the keyset colors to the colors that were used in the old renders? Those colors were so awesomeEdit: it is also a bit lighter in real life than in renders I'll work to fix that tomorrow as well
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Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 17:25:46
Its really hard to even figure out what color it should be when i have a swatch in front of me. I was looking at it in daylight but its always gonna be different depending on time of day and clouds among other things. It took me a while. In real life it isnt as dark and is less blue.Oh cool I was hoping for a lighter colorAny chance of changing the keyset colors to the colors that were used in the old renders? Those colors were so awesomeEdit: it is also a bit lighter in real life than in renders I'll work to fix that tomorrow as well
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Post by: kisx on Sat, 12 September 2020, 17:28:17
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Post by: ideus on Sat, 12 September 2020, 19:24:55
Dear Skok: Would you add a 1! key to the Norde set? It would be pair with the separated alpha set to make an international stand-alone international alpha set to mix and match with other mods.
I am re-posting this in the hope to get an answer. I posted it when all the brag was about sublegends.
Post by: Skok on Sat, 12 September 2020, 19:49:13
I'm confused by what you mean. How would adding the 1! help for international kits. I didnt respond before because it was the only one I was confused by and was gonna take a look after work.Dear Skok: Would you add a 1! key to the Norde set? It would be pair with the separated alpha set to make an international stand-alone international alpha set to mix and match with other mods.
I am re-posting this in the hope to get an answer. I posted it when all the brag was about sublegends.
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Post by: Jacki on Sat, 12 September 2020, 20:45:58
Post by: woyaodapian on Sun, 13 September 2020, 00:00:10
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Sun, 13 September 2020, 04:25:22
Anyways do we have an ETA for the GB?
Post by: ideus on Sun, 13 September 2020, 10:32:51
I'm confused by what you mean. How would adding the 1! help for international kits. I didnt respond before because it was the only one I was confused by and was gonna take a look after work.Dear Skok: Would you add a 1! key to the Norde set? It would be pair with the separated alpha set to make an international stand-alone international alpha set to mix and match with other mods.
I am re-posting this in the hope to get an answer. I posted it when all the brag was about sublegends.
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If you get the alpha set and the NordeUK one, they make a full alpha set for most European language layouts, but the 1! key would be missing. Therefore, adding this key would make the two kits joining a full one base alpha set. I hope this makes sense to you.
Post by: Skok on Sun, 13 September 2020, 16:14:12
I'm confused by what you mean. How would adding the 1! help for international kits. I didnt respond before because it was the only one I was confused by and was gonna take a look after work.Dear Skok: Would you add a 1! key to the Norde set? It would be pair with the separated alpha set to make an international stand-alone international alpha set to mix and match with other mods.
I am re-posting this in the hope to get an answer. I posted it when all the brag was about sublegends.
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If you get the alpha set and the NordeUK one, they make a full alpha set for most European language layouts, but the 1! key would be missing. Therefore, adding this key would make the two kits joining a full one base alpha set. I hope this makes sense to you.
Makes perfect sense now. Shouldn't be a problem.
Post by: Skok on Sun, 13 September 2020, 16:16:08
Any chance of changing the keyset colors to the colors that were used in the old renders? Those colors were so awesome
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Hey just getting back to you. I updated the renders to be more representative of the physical swatch in front of me. Not so blue anymore and closer to the original renders.
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 13 September 2020, 16:17:20
Any chance of changing the keyset colors to the colors that were used in the old renders? Those colors were so awesome
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Hey just getting back to you. I updated the renders to be more representative of the physical swatch in front of me. Not so blue anymore and closer to the original renders.
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Post by: MIXO Cables on Sun, 13 September 2020, 22:18:06
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 14 September 2020, 08:29:07
Dear Skok: Would you add a 1! key to the Norde set? It would be pair with the separated alpha set to make an international stand-alone international alpha set to mix and match with other mods.
I am re-posting this in the hope to get an answer. I posted it when all the brag was about sublegends.
I'm confused by what you mean. How would adding the 1! help for international kits. I didnt respond before because it was the only one I was confused by and was gonna take a look after work.
If you get the alpha set and the NordeUK one, they make a full alpha set for most European language layouts, but the 1! key would be missing. Therefore, adding this key would make the two kits joining a full one base alpha set. I hope this makes sense to you.
Here's a list of keys that would be missing for each of the supported languages with the current kits:
- Danish – 1!
- German – 1!, 4$, 5%
- Norwegian – 1!
- Swedish/Finnish – 1!
- English (UK) – most number and punctuation keys; not viable
So all in all, I'd say that adding R1 1! to the NorDeUK kit is in fact a good idea.
Post by: Maniac on Mon, 14 September 2020, 10:48:34
Post by: konstantin on Mon, 14 September 2020, 11:34:01
Am I the only one seeing a 1! key in the base kit?
The extra 1! key is for scenarios where you aren't buying the base kit. To quote ideus:
If you get the alpha set and the NordeUK one, they make a full alpha set for most European language layouts, but the 1! key would be missing. Therefore, adding this key would make the two kits joining a full one base alpha set. I hope this makes sense to you.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 14 September 2020, 18:40:43
Am I the only one seeing a 1! key in the base kit?
There is one in the base, of course. But, adding one more 1! key in the NordUK kit, you may populate:
Base + NordUK + Alpha kits = One full TKL keyboard and One full alpha and number row set. Add your own set of modifiers to get two boards populated. NordUK + Alpha kits = One full alpha and number row set, add your modifiers, and you would have a full keyboard settled. It applies to Norwegian, Danish, Swedish, Finnish, and German with some other Alt Gr sub legends.
I hope this explains the proposal. The additional cost would be around one and a half USD.
Post by: jack47 on Sun, 04 October 2020, 08:44:03
Post by: KT-afk on Sun, 04 October 2020, 09:55:51
Post by: kisx on Mon, 05 October 2020, 06:05:25
Is there a discord to follow updates? And do you have a estimate of when the GB would start?Would love to follow updates as well. Also anything new on novelties renders?
Post by: The.Ryan.Gamer on Mon, 05 October 2020, 07:48:10
Post by: babybjorn on Mon, 05 October 2020, 08:00:58
I hope GB date will be announced soon.
Same, any guesses OP for when this could hit?
Post by: Skok on Mon, 05 October 2020, 08:22:29
Is there a discord to follow updates? And do you have a estimate of when the GB would start?Would love to follow updates as well. Also anything new on novelties renders?
Not doing a discord, all updates are via the IC page. Progress has been slower because school has taken up pretty much all of my freetime and Its more important that I focus on that right now, but I definitely have still been working on it. Just haven't been able to get as much done as I've wanted to.
Post by: Retne on Mon, 05 October 2020, 15:44:51
Post by: Skok on Mon, 05 October 2020, 22:29:36
Poked my head back in here to see how it was coming along and sad to see the sub-legends were the more popular. Mono-legends was what I was interested in. Not sure if I'm in for a set anymore even if the mono-legends are added as an extra. Hopefully you eventually run this in KAT with mono-legends in the future.
Sorry to hear that but I understand. Regarding Monos vs Subs its still not decided yet but I really am pushing for monos. Something I would need to discuss with some of my peers. As for KAT Norse, I think it would be sick but lets get through the first one eh. Thanks for the feedback
Post by: Skok on Mon, 05 October 2020, 22:32:08
I hope GB date will be announced soon.
Same, any guesses OP for when this could hit?
Doing my best to keep things moving on this set, just have more important things at the moment. I'm still working on it weekly just not as much as I want due to school and such. Thank you for your continued interest and patience!
Post by: nvh2092 on Tue, 06 October 2020, 16:24:53
Poked my head back in here to see how it was coming along and sad to see the sub-legends were the more popular. Mono-legends was what I was interested in. Not sure if I'm in for a set anymore even if the mono-legends are added as an extra. Hopefully you eventually run this in KAT with mono-legends in the future.
Sorry to hear that but I understand. Regarding Monos vs Subs its still not decided yet but I really am pushing for monos. Something I would need to discuss with some of my peers. As for KAT Norse, I think it would be sick but lets get through the first one eh. Thanks for the feedback
I think it's just common sense, people use keycap to type so there must be alpha letter on it. For an expensive keycap set, they look for actual use. As long as you make sure alpha letters stay in base kit, it will sell.
Post by: VagueOrigin on Tue, 06 October 2020, 17:46:59
Just looks cluttered to hell, and alphas are alphas. They retain their meaning for the most partPoked my head back in here to see how it was coming along and sad to see the sub-legends were the more popular. Mono-legends was what I was interested in. Not sure if I'm in for a set anymore even if the mono-legends are added as an extra. Hopefully you eventually run this in KAT with mono-legends in the future.
Sorry to hear that but I understand. Regarding Monos vs Subs its still not decided yet but I really am pushing for monos. Something I would need to discuss with some of my peers. As for KAT Norse, I think it would be sick but lets get through the first one eh. Thanks for the feedback
I think it's just common sense, people use keycap to type so there must be alpha letter on it. For an expensive keycap set, they look for actual use. As long as you make sure alpha letters stay in base kit, it will sell.
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Post by: jackrabbit on Tue, 06 October 2020, 20:05:53
I have a suspicion that a lot of those votes for sublegends were just people wanting to get english alphas without having to buy a separate kit, NOT necessarily that they thought sublegends looked better. If you made the base kit have mono english alphas like most other GMK sets, and just offered a rune mono legend kit separately, I think you would make people from both sides of that pie chart happy and sell like fire. Just my optimistic hunch though.
And for those who would be bummed at having to purchase another kit for those rune mono legends--if there wasn't enough interest to meet MoQ on a base kit with those rune monolegends, which would you choose: spending extra on a rune monolegends kit, or not having the option to get rune monolegends at all?
Post by: LXVRGS on Tue, 06 October 2020, 20:50:07
Post by: YMwoo on Tue, 06 October 2020, 21:55:23
Hopefully the pricing and timing will be right for me
Post by: Skok on Tue, 06 October 2020, 22:08:27
Another vote for rune mono legends here. They are just far better looking than the cluttered alphas+subs.
I have a suspicion that a lot of those votes for sublegends were just people wanting to get english alphas without having to buy a separate kit, NOT necessarily that they thought sublegends looked better. If you made the base kit have mono english alphas like most other GMK sets, and just offered a rune mono legend kit separately, I think you would make people from both sides of that pie chart happy and sell like fire. Just my optimistic hunch though.
And for those who would be bummed at having to purchase another kit for those rune mono legends--if there wasn't enough interest to meet MoQ on a base kit with those rune monolegends, which would you choose: spending extra on a rune monolegends kit, or not having the option to get rune monolegends at all?
This has always been a point of conflict for me. I really want to run this set with Monos first and foremost, without them the set loses its character for me. I don't think running this set with Latin alphas would be a good idea, firstly because it throws most of the hype for this set out the window and secondly I fear splitting out Monos will result in more people opting out of the set entirely. For now I'm going to focus on finish the other aspects regarding kits and Novs. Thanks for the feedback!
Post by: Skok on Tue, 06 October 2020, 22:14:14
Agreed. This whole set is being built around the Norse theme. Looking back at old renders the Latin Alphas look completely out of place when the theme is taken into account.Just looks cluttered to hell, and alphas are alphas. They retain their meaning for the most partPoked my head back in here to see how it was coming along and sad to see the sub-legends were the more popular. Mono-legends was what I was interested in. Not sure if I'm in for a set anymore even if the mono-legends are added as an extra. Hopefully you eventually run this in KAT with mono-legends in the future.
Sorry to hear that but I understand. Regarding Monos vs Subs its still not decided yet but I really am pushing for monos. Something I would need to discuss with some of my peers. As for KAT Norse, I think it would be sick but lets get through the first one eh. Thanks for the feedback
I think it's just common sense, people use keycap to type so there must be alpha letter on it. For an expensive keycap set, they look for actual use. As long as you make sure alpha letters stay in base kit, it will sell.
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Post by: Skok on Tue, 06 October 2020, 22:20:36
Poked my head back in here to see how it was coming along and sad to see the sub-legends were the more popular. Mono-legends was what I was interested in. Not sure if I'm in for a set anymore even if the mono-legends are added as an extra. Hopefully you eventually run this in KAT with mono-legends in the future.
Sorry to hear that but I understand. Regarding Monos vs Subs its still not decided yet but I really am pushing for monos. Something I would need to discuss with some of my peers. As for KAT Norse, I think it would be sick but lets get through the first one eh. Thanks for the feedback
I think it's just common sense, people use keycap to type so there must be alpha letter on it. For an expensive keycap set, they look for actual use. As long as you make sure alpha letters stay in base kit, it will sell.
As a juxtaposition to that I think that the entire reason that theres a community for custom GMK, KAT, SA, etc is because those people want to buy "vanity" keycaps per se. People are buying them because they look cool. All of the sets serve the exact same purpose just with a different paint job and theme. I appreciate your input though.
Post by: ricepixer on Wed, 07 October 2020, 00:48:08
Post by: riterdando on Wed, 07 October 2020, 01:06:49
Mono runic legends simply fit best with the theme.
Post by: nvh2092 on Wed, 07 October 2020, 04:09:28
Poked my head back in here to see how it was coming along and sad to see the sub-legends were the more popular. Mono-legends was what I was interested in. Not sure if I'm in for a set anymore even if the mono-legends are added as an extra. Hopefully you eventually run this in KAT with mono-legends in the future.
Sorry to hear that but I understand. Regarding Monos vs Subs its still not decided yet but I really am pushing for monos. Something I would need to discuss with some of my peers. As for KAT Norse, I think it would be sick but lets get through the first one eh. Thanks for the feedback
I think it's just common sense, people use keycap to type so there must be alpha letter on it. For an expensive keycap set, they look for actual use. As long as you make sure alpha letters stay in base kit, it will sell.
As a juxtaposition to that I think that the entire reason that theres a community for custom GMK, KAT, SA, etc is because those people want to buy "vanity" keycaps per se. People are buying them because they look cool. All of the sets serve the exact same purpose just with a different paint job and theme. I appreciate your input though.
Because they look cool and also thet are usable as well, that's why you have majority choose sublegends. I'm pretty sure that most of the custom keycap buyer won't even have a GH account and you IC form does not ask for username on GH, so outsider can vote as well, and they choose sublegends because they like the theme and the want to use it on keyboard. I think you should run 2 base kit if you want to keep the mono, one for mono without alpha and one for alpha with sublegends. This is my honest opinion. You may get a lot of upvotes from geekhack community but you sell this set worldwide, not only for geekhack.
Post by: Drudoo on Wed, 07 October 2020, 04:57:28
Post by: Skok on Thu, 08 October 2020, 21:24:03
Will spacebars kit contain an extra B for Alice layouts?
yes.
Post by: jack47 on Sat, 10 October 2020, 22:50:32
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Post by: Masticccc on Sun, 11 October 2020, 00:41:30
Post by: Ireojimayo on Sun, 11 October 2020, 00:45:41
But I think it makes this set unbelievably unique, it'd be a shame if this only ran in norse sublegends.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 October 2020, 10:23:09
Post by: thesagason on Sun, 11 October 2020, 12:12:49
Would love to see a deskmat in different colours i.e. all the colour choices for keycaps themselves.
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Post by: Spune on Tue, 13 October 2020, 13:10:49
Post by: Gnarled on Tue, 13 October 2020, 13:39:13
I think it's just common sense, people use keycap to type so there must be alpha letter on it. For an expensive keycap set, they look for actual use. As long as you make sure alpha letters stay in base kit, it will sell.
Most touch typists don't need to look at the keyboard to type, and that's not a small majority of the community.
I'll chime in and say had I known this existed, I definitely would've voted for mono legends. The selling point of this set is it's uniqueness. If you needed a set with latin alphas to LOOK at for typing, you would've been better off with a latin-alphas-only keyset so you can identify what key it is faster. These runes are for aesthetics so it makes 0 sense to ruin it with that being it's key feature.
Post by: VagueOrigin on Tue, 13 October 2020, 16:24:11
My thoughts exactly, I don't want to keep reiterating, as I'm sure Skok has seen it 100 times. Just slightly disappointed in the way it appears to be going. Ill actually still support the maker regardless since I've seen the effort poured into this set, they care. And for the community, with a lot of ppl trying to capitalize on it, that to me is a selling point. But now, it's skadi with a different colorway and novelties imo. We're fighting since you listened to em Skok! But I understand also haha... gotta sell what the ppl ask for i guess.
I think it's just common sense, people use keycap to type so there must be alpha letter on it. For an expensive keycap set, they look for actual use. As long as you make sure alpha letters stay in base kit, it will sell.
Most touch typists don't need to look at the keyboard to type, and that's not a small majority of the community.
I'll chime in and say had I known this existed, I definitely would've voted for mono legends. The selling point of this set is it's uniqueness. If you needed a set with latin alphas to LOOK at for typing, you would've been better off with a latin-alphas-only keyset so you can identify what key it is faster. These runes are for aesthetics so it makes 0 sense to ruin it with that being it's key feature.
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Post by: Skok on Tue, 13 October 2020, 16:41:59
Agreed. I'm an awful touch typer so I'm usually looking at the keyboard for about half the time I'm typing. Its more important for me to have a symbol, in this case a rune, to associate with the letter. I dont necessarily need latin letters to know where I'm typing. Just something to help my fingers navigate the board while typing. Therefore I think its a non issue regarding monos.
I think it's just common sense, people use keycap to type so there must be alpha letter on it. For an expensive keycap set, they look for actual use. As long as you make sure alpha letters stay in base kit, it will sell.
Most touch typists don't need to look at the keyboard to type, and that's not a small majority of the community.
I'll chime in and say had I known this existed, I definitely would've voted for mono legends. The selling point of this set is it's uniqueness. If you needed a set with latin alphas to LOOK at for typing, you would've been better off with a latin-alphas-only keyset so you can identify what key it is faster. These runes are for aesthetics so it makes 0 sense to ruin it with that being it's key feature.
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Post by: Skok on Tue, 13 October 2020, 16:43:54
I havent committed to either one yet. As I've stated before I'm still very intent on running with monos but just want to figure out if its a deal breaker for most people before I commit to anything. Maybe a reddit post will help me figure that out I'm not sure yet.My thoughts exactly, I don't want to keep reiterating, as I'm sure Skok has seen it 100 times. Just slightly disappointed in the way it appears to be going. Ill actually still support the maker regardless since I've seen the effort poured into this set, they care. And for the community, with a lot of ppl trying to capitalize on it, that to me is a selling point. But now, it's skadi with a different colorway and novelties imo. We're fighting since you listened to em Skok! But I understand also haha... gotta sell what the ppl ask for i guess.
I think it's just common sense, people use keycap to type so there must be alpha letter on it. For an expensive keycap set, they look for actual use. As long as you make sure alpha letters stay in base kit, it will sell.
Most touch typists don't need to look at the keyboard to type, and that's not a small majority of the community.
I'll chime in and say had I known this existed, I definitely would've voted for mono legends. The selling point of this set is it's uniqueness. If you needed a set with latin alphas to LOOK at for typing, you would've been better off with a latin-alphas-only keyset so you can identify what key it is faster. These runes are for aesthetics so it makes 0 sense to ruin it with that being it's key feature.
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Post by: VagueOrigin on Tue, 13 October 2020, 17:28:39
Oh thats my misunderstanding then, either way can't wait boss!I havent committed to either one yet. As I've stated before I'm still very intent on running with monos but just want to figure out if its a deal breaker for most people before I commit to anything. Maybe a reddit post will help me figure that out I'm not sure yet.My thoughts exactly, I don't want to keep reiterating, as I'm sure Skok has seen it 100 times. Just slightly disappointed in the way it appears to be going. Ill actually still support the maker regardless since I've seen the effort poured into this set, they care. And for the community, with a lot of ppl trying to capitalize on it, that to me is a selling point. But now, it's skadi with a different colorway and novelties imo. We're fighting since you listened to em Skok! But I understand also haha... gotta sell what the ppl ask for i guess.
I think it's just common sense, people use keycap to type so there must be alpha letter on it. For an expensive keycap set, they look for actual use. As long as you make sure alpha letters stay in base kit, it will sell.
Most touch typists don't need to look at the keyboard to type, and that's not a small majority of the community.
I'll chime in and say had I known this existed, I definitely would've voted for mono legends. The selling point of this set is it's uniqueness. If you needed a set with latin alphas to LOOK at for typing, you would've been better off with a latin-alphas-only keyset so you can identify what key it is faster. These runes are for aesthetics so it makes 0 sense to ruin it with that being it's key feature.
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Post by: ideus on Tue, 13 October 2020, 21:13:18
Post by: Techlet on Tue, 13 October 2020, 22:13:06
The result from the IC poll speaks for itself.
Could do what other designers do and offer mono as an additional kit.
Post by: jackrabbit on Tue, 13 October 2020, 22:43:21
Post by: Valynar on Tue, 20 October 2020, 14:31:54
First of all, I chose sublegend runes because I indeed like to have Latin alphas. Not only do I like that because I am a meh touch typer, also because I like that aesthetically. Additionally, if I'm typing complex passwords or code, having Latin legends can be a lifesaver.
Secondly, making molds is, like has been said before, quite expensive. I believe making both versions, so runic alpha's and subledgends would be the best option. That is also the most expensive option though. Maybe the community could help with providing enough money?
Nonetheless, at the time of voting, I felt like having runic sublegends made more sense. Mostly because I felt that might also be beneficial for others making Scandinavian themed GMK sets. GMK IKEA with runic sublegends when ;)?
Nevertheless, I really like the colors of the set. I'm usually not into dark sets, but this one just works. So I'll buy it either way. Good luck making such a tough decision. I'm looking forward to the reworked novelties. Keep up the excellent work!
Post by: Eldu on Thu, 22 October 2020, 14:45:22
I would also recommend to have base mono alphas and seperate mono runics - i'd want both anyway, because i adore the colour scheme and like to have the option to switch.
Both on one key look too cluttered imho!
Post by: einigicky on Fri, 23 October 2020, 20:31:21
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Post by: Skok on Mon, 26 October 2020, 09:45:58
Those fellows that want alphas plus runic have a legit demand. Keycaps are for typing, either if you need the legends or not. However, the point here is a bit far from being about functionality. It is a matter of getting a much standard set with runic as interesting secondary legends, the type of set that has been re-issued multiple times with Korean and Japanese legends, or -here is the catch- make this set very special with unique runic legends. Of course, the demand for this is limited, so maybe, a set like this has no future after all.
If I could run with both Monos and Subs with one as a child kit without a ridiculous price I would. I simply do not know what it's going to cost other than the fact that it will be expensive. If google form responses were a perfect representation of how many people were buying the set, it would be really easy. As of today, there are 400 for Monos and 650 for Subs. But how many of those people are actually going to buy is another question, there are too many variables. I've put the set on the back burner temporarily, but still working on it when I can, until my Fall semester is over. That's why it's progressing slower than in the summer and is the reason I don't have as many answers as I wish I did.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 26 October 2020, 10:43:43
Those fellows that want alphas plus runic have a legit demand. Keycaps are for typing, either if you need the legends or not. However, the point here is a bit far from being about functionality. It is a matter of getting a much standard set with runic as interesting secondary legends, the type of set that has been re-issued multiple times with Korean and Japanese legends, or -here is the catch- make this set very special with unique runic legends. Of course, the demand for this is limited, so maybe, a set like this has no future after all.
If I could run with both Monos and Subs with one as a child kit without a ridiculous price I would. I simply do not know what it's going to cost other than the fact that it will be expensive. If google form responses were a perfect representation of how many people were buying the set, it would be really easy. As of today, there are 400 for Monos and 650 for Subs. But how many of those people are actually going to buy is another question, there are too many variables. I've put the set on the back burner temporarily, but still working on it when I can, until my Fall semester is over. That's why it's progressing slower than in the summer and is the reason I don't have as many answers as I wish I did.
Common sense leads to run the set with alphas and runic sub-legends. It is just more commercially sound. Even if stubborn collector-minded fellows do not join, you may have the set pulling enough orders. I understood the end-of-semester madness.
Post by: fuzewall on Mon, 26 October 2020, 19:36:11
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Post by: krzank on Fri, 13 November 2020, 13:47:39
Or maybe R4:Tilde/GraveAccent?
If added to NORDEUK kit I'll be happy too.
Post by: sup3r170va on Fri, 13 November 2020, 17:31:09
I think the set would look cleaner without the sublegends. Maybe offer Latin alphas as base and runes as an add on.
Post by: Dragonhunt on Mon, 16 November 2020, 12:20:49
Would it be possible to add the runes to keys in the NorDeUk set?
If you don't add them then there are some layouts (like ISO-DE in my case) that look inconsistent since keys like Q, E, Y, and Z wouldn't have them.
Maybe shuffle the position of the @ and € to the left below the actual alpha so that you may keep the position of the rune?
Post by: Heyhoman on Mon, 16 November 2020, 13:00:55
I really like the sublegends.
Would it be possible to add the runes to keys in the NorDeUk set?
If you don't add them then there are some layouts (like ISO-DE in my case) that look inconsistent since keys like Q, E, Y, and Z wouldn't have them.
Maybe shuffle the position of the @ and € to the left below the actual alpha so that you may keep the position of the rune?
+1 for this.
Post by: refractive on Tue, 17 November 2020, 05:47:04
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Post by: Pyratheon on Wed, 25 November 2020, 06:02:27
Either way, hope this goes forward
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Post by: saltimate on Mon, 07 December 2020, 19:01:31
ideally need ortho and 40s support but i know that is kinda awkward with fkn GMK and the general lack of popularity for sub 60%
even just bunch of blanks would be dope to fill any gaps
i can't believe that there is more demand for sub-legends than mono, tbh the way this is looking rn i kind of expect to have to wait and hope this gets done in KAT...
Post by: Skok on Mon, 07 December 2020, 20:19:43
I love the colours and runic legends but im only in if runic mono with non-text mods is an option
ideally need ortho and 40s support but i know that is kinda awkward with fkn GMK and the general lack of popularity for sub 60%
even just bunch of blanks would be dope to fill any gaps
i can't believe that there is more demand for sub-legends than mono, tbh the way this is looking rn i kind of expect to have to wait and hope this gets done in KAT...
Or maybe mt3... in my dreams. Subs will most likely be the final iteration. I can't ignore the majority. Monos could def come in a R2 if theres enough demand, but for now I need to focus on getting R1 to GB lol. Working on it as we speak. I'm not sure about ortho/40 support. It's something I have to discuss with vendors as many of them have told me it's extremely niche and usually isn't worth it unless the set is massive. Kind of up in the air for the time being.
Post by: YMwoo on Mon, 07 December 2020, 20:56:39
Or maybe mt3... in my dreams. Subs will most likely be the final iteration. I can't ignore the majority. Monos could def come in a R2 if theres enough demand, but for now I need to focus on getting R1 to GB lol. Working on it as we speak. I'm not sure about ortho/40 support. It's something I have to discuss with vendors as many of them have told me it's extremely niche and usually isn't worth it unless the set is massive. Kind of up in the air for the time being.That's too bad though I do understand where you come from.
I'd need to pass if it's sublegends, but GL with it! It'll definitely be more successful.
Looking forward to R2 then!
Also, MT3 would be a bomb! I've been considering picking up the WoB.
But if you able to get this in MT3, I would definitely get it! :thumb:
Post by: Xonuss on Mon, 07 December 2020, 23:51:55
Post by: Skok on Tue, 08 December 2020, 00:25:28
It's a real shame this doesn't seem to get runic monos, those look absolutely sick. Could you perhaps do another poll, I'm really curious to see if sub legend still have that much of a majority vote. Anyways, looking forward to see what happens with this set, good luck!
For reference:
(http://i.imgur.com/yT6N8pn.png) (https://imgur.com/yT6N8pn)
Both sides are very vocal about which one to go with but I have to follow the numbers. Like I said before, maybe a R2? This run will be Subs though.
Post by: nvh2092 on Tue, 08 December 2020, 00:35:50
Well if R1 is successful then 2 base kits in R2 may not be a bad idea tho (Based on the interest of this thread)It's a real shame this doesn't seem to get runic monos, those look absolutely sick. Could you perhaps do another poll, I'm really curious to see if sub legend still have that much of a majority vote. Anyways, looking forward to see what happens with this set, good luck!
For reference:
(http://i.imgur.com/yT6N8pn.png) (https://imgur.com/yT6N8pn)
Both sides are very vocal about which one to go with but I have to follow the numbers. Like I said before, maybe a R2? This run will be Subs though.
Post by: Xonuss on Tue, 08 December 2020, 00:41:51
One could always hope, but I completely understand. Will keep my eyes peeled for a Runic Mono run.It's a real shame this doesn't seem to get runic monos, those look absolutely sick. Could you perhaps do another poll, I'm really curious to see if sub legend still have that much of a majority vote. Anyways, looking forward to see what happens with this set, good luck!
For reference:
(http://i.imgur.com/yT6N8pn.png) (https://imgur.com/yT6N8pn)
Both sides are very vocal about which one to go with but I have to follow the numbers. Like I said before, maybe a R2? This run will be Subs though.
Post by: kk73715 on Tue, 08 December 2020, 07:17:40
Post by: sup3r170va on Tue, 08 December 2020, 07:58:33
not sure if answered already, but if sub vs mono is so polarizing, why not just run two base kits? worried about moq?
Agree with this. Or offer alphas kit :)
Post by: woyaodapian on Tue, 08 December 2020, 10:22:24
Post by: iinko_mk on Tue, 08 December 2020, 17:42:15
Post by: kk73715 on Tue, 08 December 2020, 21:18:58
The question that should be asked is whether people interested are open to having increased prices for more choice.
I say yes, it is worth it!
edit: I just wanted to add that whatever choice is made, I will still be supporting this set. glwic :)
Post by: FamilyJoule924 on Tue, 08 December 2020, 22:45:25
Post by: Skok on Tue, 08 December 2020, 22:55:11
Two base kits = less MoQ for each = higher base price for each
The question that should be asked is whether people interested are open to having increased prices for more choice.
I say yes, it is worth it!
edit: I just wanted to add that whatever choice is made, I will still be supporting this set. glwic :)
It's a lot of new molds which everyone knows aren't cheap. Running a second base kit with Monos requires the number of molds to be doubled. I have no idea how much this set will cost until the base kit is finalized and sent off to GMK by my lead vendor for quotes (which is soon btw ;)) My assumption is that a second base kit would put the price of the set in an uncomfortable position that might isolate many people.
Post by: kiwi03 on Wed, 09 December 2020, 01:28:14
Post by: boneandbee on Thu, 10 December 2020, 17:46:24
Post by: BeachFan69 on Thu, 10 December 2020, 22:22:22
Post by: outerspace on Fri, 11 December 2020, 07:10:07
Or maybe mt3... in my dreams. Subs will most likely be the final iteration. I can't ignore the majority. Monos could def come in a R2 if theres enough demand, but for now I need to focus on getting R1 to GB lol. Working on it as we speak. I'm not sure about ortho/40 support. It's something I have to discuss with vendors as many of them have told me it's extremely niche and usually isn't worth it unless the set is massive. Kind of up in the air for the time being.That's too bad though I do understand where you come from.
I'd need to pass if it's sublegends, but GL with it! It'll definitely be more successful.
Looking forward to R2 then!
Also, MT3 would be a bomb! I've been considering picking up the WoB.
But if you able to get this in MT3, I would definitely get it! :thumb:
How about just scrape the idea of GMK altogether and go with MT3? ;-) You get way more options with kitting and with Drop's customer base, I'm sure the set will sell well. Both mono (yay for myself!) and sub fans will be happy.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 11 December 2020, 07:25:28
Post by: Skok on Fri, 11 December 2020, 09:23:14
Or maybe mt3... in my dreams. Subs will most likely be the final iteration. I can't ignore the majority. Monos could def come in a R2 if theres enough demand, but for now I need to focus on getting R1 to GB lol. Working on it as we speak. I'm not sure about ortho/40 support. It's something I have to discuss with vendors as many of them have told me it's extremely niche and usually isn't worth it unless the set is massive. Kind of up in the air for the time being.That's too bad though I do understand where you come from.
I'd need to pass if it's sublegends, but GL with it! It'll definitely be more successful.
Looking forward to R2 then!
Also, MT3 would be a bomb! I've been considering picking up the WoB.
But if you able to get this in MT3, I would definitely get it! :thumb:
How about just scrape the idea of GMK altogether and go with MT3? ;-) You get way more options with kitting and with Drop's customer base, I'm sure the set will sell well. Both mono (yay for myself!) and sub fans will be happy.
GMK is happening lol. MT3 is definitely a possibility somewhere in the future. Some tweaks would need to be made since the legends on here are lighter than the base color of the cap. Colors would have to be changed around. Sometime next year once this has passed GB I'll contact drop about making this a possibility in MT3. For now, I'll finish this iteration. Thanks for the support!
Post by: Skok on Fri, 11 December 2020, 09:29:31
Post by: rexreaper on Fri, 11 December 2020, 10:21:01
Post by: AllieBlairThomas on Fri, 11 December 2020, 11:22:50
Post by: kk73715 on Mon, 14 December 2020, 06:12:10
Or maybe mt3... in my dreams. Subs will most likely be the final iteration. I can't ignore the majority. Monos could def come in a R2 if theres enough demand, but for now I need to focus on getting R1 to GB lol. Working on it as we speak. I'm not sure about ortho/40 support. It's something I have to discuss with vendors as many of them have told me it's extremely niche and usually isn't worth it unless the set is massive. Kind of up in the air for the time being.That's too bad though I do understand where you come from.
I'd need to pass if it's sublegends, but GL with it! It'll definitely be more successful.
Looking forward to R2 then!
Also, MT3 would be a bomb! I've been considering picking up the WoB.
But if you able to get this in MT3, I would definitely get it! :thumb:
How about just scrape the idea of GMK altogether and go with MT3? ;-) You get way more options with kitting and with Drop's customer base, I'm sure the set will sell well. Both mono (yay for myself!) and sub fans will be happy.
Drop is a terrible vendor, we as a community should be moving away from them. Yes going to Drop might get lower prices but it is not worth it for the way they treat orders and all the shipping/order problems that occur. Pay the extra 5-10$ for a vendor to actually take care of a product and gets it to your doorstep. **** Drop.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 14 December 2020, 07:39:06
Or maybe mt3... in my dreams. Subs will most likely be the final iteration. I can't ignore the majority. Monos could def come in a R2 if theres enough demand, but for now I need to focus on getting R1 to GB lol. Working on it as we speak. I'm not sure about ortho/40 support. It's something I have to discuss with vendors as many of them have told me it's extremely niche and usually isn't worth it unless the set is massive. Kind of up in the air for the time being.That's too bad though I do understand where you come from.
I'd need to pass if it's sublegends, but GL with it! It'll definitely be more successful.
Looking forward to R2 then!
Also, MT3 would be a bomb! I've been considering picking up the WoB.
But if you able to get this in MT3, I would definitely get it! :thumb:
How about just scrape the idea of GMK altogether and go with MT3? ;-) You get way more options with kitting and with Drop's customer base, I'm sure the set will sell well. Both mono (yay for myself!) and sub fans will be happy.
Drop is a terrible vendor, we as a community should be moving away from them. Yes going to Drop might get lower prices but it is not worth it for the way they treat orders and all the shipping/order problems that occur. Pay the extra 5-10$ for a vendor to actually take care of a product and gets it to your doorstep. **** Drop.
Are you aware that Drop owns GH?
Post by: KT-afk on Mon, 14 December 2020, 07:55:48
Post by: Skok on Mon, 14 December 2020, 09:23:59
Would like to know, but will there be any chances for a sea vendor? It was left unanswered
Looking into it, I'll get back to you
Post by: saltimate on Tue, 15 December 2020, 17:28:21
protip: if more people want sublegends, make the base runic mono so you can make extra dosh off all the plebs who will have to buy an alt alphas kit
alternatively just make an alt alphas kit for mono runic and make not quite as much extra dosh fro the few kings who don't need latin alphas
Post by: nvh2092 on Tue, 15 December 2020, 17:37:22
looking forward to seeing the noveltiesOr they just skip the set completely. In the end, he will probably lose more buyers than he'll get with your weird idea...
protip: if more people want sublegends, make the base runic mono so you can make extra dosh off all the plebs who will have to buy an alt alphas kit
alternatively just make an alt alphas kit for mono runic and make not quite as much extra dosh fro the few kings who don't need latin alphas
Post by: Skok on Wed, 16 December 2020, 00:02:26
looking forward to seeing the noveltiesOr they just skip the set completely. In the end, he will probably lose more buyers than he'll get with your weird idea...
protip: if more people want sublegends, make the base runic mono so you can make extra dosh off all the plebs who will have to buy an alt alphas kit
alternatively just make an alt alphas kit for mono runic and make not quite as much extra dosh fro the few kings who don't need latin alphas
lol
Post by: Skok on Wed, 16 December 2020, 00:14:04
I'm so excited to give you lots of money for this set.
I'm excited to take that money.
Post by: kk73715 on Wed, 16 December 2020, 02:20:50
Are you aware that Drop owns GH?
No, I was not aware but just did a brief search and am now aware. Thank you for bringing this up.
That said, Drop's ownership of GH shouldn't have an impact on how we judge them or the standard we hold them to. Recent pre-orders Drop was a vendor for has not been smooth. Delays, wrong orders, missing items, damaged products... the list goes on. I have not had good experiences with them and it doesn't seem those problems will be fixed anytime soon. For these reasons I advocate that OP does not take the suggestion of using Drop as a vendor.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 December 2020, 07:17:24
Are you aware that Drop owns GH?
No, I was not aware but just did a brief search and am now aware. Thank you for bringing this up.
That said, Drop's ownership of GH shouldn't have an impact on how we judge them or the standard we hold them to. Recent pre-orders Drop was a vendor for has not been smooth. Delays, wrong orders, missing items, damaged products... the list goes on. I have not had good experiences with them and it doesn't seem those problems will be fixed anytime soon. For these reasons I advocate that OP does not take the suggestion of using Drop as a vendor.
The take over of GH by Drop has been smooth and GH appears to run the same, before and after it.
Post by: candravamsa on Fri, 18 December 2020, 09:11:15
I would be far more willing to buy the base along with the alt Rune set.
Sadly I would personally pass if only the sublegends are offered.
Post by: Skok on Fri, 18 December 2020, 09:21:40
The mono/sublegend numbers look strong enough to at least offer an alt alpha option.
I would be far more willing to buy the base along with the alt Rune set.
Sadly I would personally pass if only the sublegends are offered.
I don't blame you. It really is unfortunate but due to the cost of the molds, running with two different alphas sets, I can only do one. That one is going to be whichever has the most form responses as its my only way to gauge interest through quantitative data. But in reality it will most likely be sublegends. As said before Monos would definitely be part of an r2 in the future if that happens.
Post by: candravamsa on Fri, 18 December 2020, 09:30:37
The mono/sublegend numbers look strong enough to at least offer an alt alpha option.
I would be far more willing to buy the base along with the alt Rune set.
Sadly I would personally pass if only the sublegends are offered.
I don't blame you. It really is unfortunate but due to the cost of the molds, running with two different alphas sets, I can only do one. That one is going to be whichever has the most form responses as its my only way to gauge interest through quantitative data. But in reality it will most likely be sublegends. As said before Monos would definitely be part of an r2 in the future if that happens.
This is something that I am 100% willing to wait for.
The Mito Ram alphas were the sole reason I became interested in custom sets.
This is leagues better than that.
Post by: Skok on Fri, 18 December 2020, 18:12:37
The mono/sublegend numbers look strong enough to at least offer an alt alpha option.
I would be far more willing to buy the base along with the alt Rune set.
Sadly I would personally pass if only the sublegends are offered.
I don't blame you. It really is unfortunate but due to the cost of the molds, running with two different alphas sets, I can only do one. That one is going to be whichever has the most form responses as its my only way to gauge interest through quantitative data. But in reality it will most likely be sublegends. As said before Monos would definitely be part of an r2 in the future if that happens.
This is something that I am 100% willing to wait for.
The Mito Ram alphas were the sole reason I became interested in custom sets.
This is leagues better than that.
Thank you, I hope I can make it happen in the future!
Post by: sup3r170va on Sat, 19 December 2020, 07:44:49
The Latin alpha kit doesn’t require new moulds.
Post by: Masticccc on Sat, 19 December 2020, 08:21:28
Post by: konstantin on Sat, 19 December 2020, 12:03:30
Just as an idea, would u run regular Latin alphas as a kit? I presume your base will be rune sub legends.
The Latin alpha kit doesn’t require new moulds.
There is already a Latin alphas kit planned. You can see it in the OP:
(https://i.imgur.com/Q0DhVFt.png)
Post by: hatomugi on Tue, 22 December 2020, 23:16:52
Post by: ScrappyAlex on Fri, 25 December 2020, 22:10:35
Post by: rt_es on Fri, 25 December 2020, 23:53:28
Post by: krzank on Sat, 26 December 2020, 02:14:01
I believe UK-ISO requires it.
Post by: nettik on Sat, 26 December 2020, 15:36:40
Post by: blejdfist on Mon, 28 December 2020, 06:33:21
I'd love to see the corrected novelties soon.
Post by: Hectrix on Tue, 29 December 2020, 04:19:20
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Post by: frozenthai on Sat, 02 January 2021, 23:09:54
How many people of those votes went for the regular and "safe" option of sub-legends, but would still buy the mono-legends?
Just clinging to air though as I don't quite get sub-legends without function and want mono. ;D
Post by: sup3r170va on Sun, 03 January 2021, 00:38:28
Post by: Naddinn on Sun, 03 January 2021, 10:44:59
Post by: R4YN3 on Sun, 03 January 2021, 20:41:23
Post by: manaorme on Tue, 05 January 2021, 03:11:09
This is my absolute most favorite set ever. I am really sorry to hear about no mono set, but that still won't stop me from buying every single kit that will be on offer! I am really hoping for a RAMA that is a single rune engraved on a metal keycap. I would buy the heck out of that!!
+1 for RAMA
Post by: jackrabbit on Tue, 05 January 2021, 17:52:06
Post by: sup3r170va on Wed, 06 January 2021, 08:47:16
Seriously, a single rune on a metal rama would be such a home run. I hope this happens.
Fully agree!
Post by: Skok on Thu, 07 January 2021, 11:18:09
Post by: koolaidpapa on Sun, 10 January 2021, 17:55:03
Post by: Skok on Sun, 10 January 2021, 18:22:31
Please give. I want it all
soon.
Post by: Chippy on Sun, 10 January 2021, 21:16:58
Post by: KT-afk on Sun, 10 January 2021, 21:25:18
Post by: LVX on Wed, 13 January 2021, 13:58:17
I only want mono though.
Post by: Skok on Wed, 13 January 2021, 19:04:21
Still hoping for a SEA vendor so that its easier for people like me living in SEA. Sorry if it has been said many times.
I have discussed this with my lead vendor. It will most likely be ilumkb but I do not have official word yet, and therefore have not updated the IC. Thank you!
Post by: TomatoMan on Fri, 15 January 2021, 11:57:15
Post by: Gnome on Fri, 15 January 2021, 19:46:11
Monos losing was kind of a disappointment though, still trying to decide if I should pick this one up as my first set or wait for a possible round 2.
Really excited to see the new IC update. Hope to see this in a Group buy soon!
Post by: Skok on Fri, 15 January 2021, 20:26:56
I too made an account just for this set. The colors look incredible on the renders!
Monos losing was kind of a disappointment though, still trying to decide if I should pick this one up as my first set or wait for a possible round 2.
Really excited to see the new IC update. Hope to see this in a Group buy soon!
Hope I can change your mind once the update comes! Thank you for your continued interest!
Post by: KT-afk on Fri, 15 January 2021, 20:44:06
Post by: nvh2092 on Sat, 16 January 2021, 04:23:07
Post by: YESWEKEN on Sat, 16 January 2021, 14:51:42
Post by: Skok on Sat, 16 January 2021, 14:59:16
filled out the IC forms, hope this gets made!
Don't worry, it will.
Post by: kibou store on Sat, 16 January 2021, 16:16:08
Post by: KT-afk on Sun, 17 January 2021, 08:43:03
Post by: S61 on Sat, 23 January 2021, 22:07:06
PLZ let this set of keycap match my keyboard to be rendered.
Post by: Diamagisk on Sun, 24 January 2021, 10:19:03
Looking forward to the update and getting my hands on this set!
Post by: jack47 on Mon, 01 February 2021, 21:54:20
Post by: Rocket on Mon, 08 February 2021, 10:23:23
Don't know if it's possible, but could you consider talking to someone like Prototypist for a UK proxy? Since we are unfortunately no longer in the EU, the charges aren't all too great.
Looking forward to the update and getting my hands on this set!
+1 for a UK proxy consideration
Post by: Corruto on Mon, 08 February 2021, 15:37:46
Post by: ideus on Mon, 08 February 2021, 22:14:00
I hope this gets a NorDe add-on
It is a Norse, with no Norde.
Post by: Jacki on Tue, 09 February 2021, 08:17:12
Wait what?I hope this gets a NorDe add-on
It is a Norse, with no Norde.
No NoDe kits with a nordic keyset?
That's like a Russian keyset with no Russian
Post by: Skok on Tue, 09 February 2021, 08:32:48
As of right now there are no kits posted because kitting isn't finalized. That's why you don't see it on the IC as of now.Wait what?I hope this gets a NorDe add-on
It is a Norse, with no Norde.
No NoDe kits with a nordic keyset?
That's like a Russian keyset with no Russian
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Post by: ImNewToThis on Tue, 09 February 2021, 15:55:54
Post by: Skok on Wed, 10 February 2021, 19:14:06
I hope this gets a NorDe add-on
NorDe is confirmed!
Post by: atlanticise on Wed, 10 February 2021, 19:40:18
Post by: TheOnlyBadMax on Fri, 12 February 2021, 15:19:42
Post by: Skok on Fri, 12 February 2021, 18:55:28
So the set is row profile 1-1-2-3-4-4?
Yes
Post by: PEÖW on Sat, 13 February 2021, 22:59:15
Post by: Skok on Sat, 13 February 2021, 23:01:07
Will there still be the option to buy the Set as a Norse only legends or just as sublegends?
Just subs this time around as it was the more popular choice via the IC form
Post by: Thailurr on Sun, 14 February 2021, 21:41:50
Post by: PEÖW on Thu, 18 February 2021, 17:34:37
Will there still be the option to buy the Set as a Norse only legends or just as sublegends?
Just subs this time around as it was the more popular choice via the IC form
Sad, Still gonna buy the set but I was looking forward to the Norse only legends. Looking forward to seeing the Novelties.
Post by: FamilyJoule924 on Thu, 18 February 2021, 18:54:32
I too made an account just for this set. The colors look incredible on the renders!
Monos losing was kind of a disappointment though, still trying to decide if I should pick this one up as my first set or wait for a possible round 2.
Really excited to see the new IC update. Hope to see this in a Group buy soon!
i'm right there with you the monos are so nice i am so sad they lost. i should have bought gmk masterpiece or sumi when i had the chance. hoping those get an R2 or another beautiful mono set comes out
Post by: Skok on Fri, 19 February 2021, 11:23:13
Post by: sup3r170va on Fri, 19 February 2021, 12:02:21
now, kits and pricing. I hope there are ramas!
Post by: ScrappyAlex on Sat, 20 February 2021, 19:21:43
I too made an account just for this set. The colors look incredible on the renders!
Monos losing was kind of a disappointment though, still trying to decide if I should pick this one up as my first set or wait for a possible round 2.
Really excited to see the new IC update. Hope to see this in a Group buy soon!
i'm right there with you the monos are so nice i am so sad they lost. i should have bought gmk masterpiece or sumi when i had the chance. hoping those get an R2 or another beautiful mono set comes out
Still upset about no monolegends. Thats kind of a deal breaker for me. Agree sublegends looks messy. Im out. :(
Post by: illusixn on Sat, 20 February 2021, 19:40:19
I too made an account just for this set. The colors look incredible on the renders!
Monos losing was kind of a disappointment though, still trying to decide if I should pick this one up as my first set or wait for a possible round 2.
Really excited to see the new IC update. Hope to see this in a Group buy soon!
i'm right there with you the monos are so nice i am so sad they lost. i should have bought gmk masterpiece or sumi when i had the chance. hoping those get an R2 or another beautiful mono set comes out
Still upset about no monolegends. Thats kind of a deal breaker for me. Agree sublegends looks messy. Im out. :(
any askers?
(https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5d7eefb7c0652668c9e4d394/3x)
Post by: GrimMyth on Tue, 23 February 2021, 13:47:04
Post by: Skok on Tue, 23 February 2021, 14:08:31
Did the novelties get removed for this, or are they just not finalized yet?There are still novelties. Just waiting on pricing before we post all the final kits.
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Post by: mayorpeepo on Tue, 23 February 2021, 15:14:14
Post by: handmademedal on Wed, 24 February 2021, 00:18:01
Post by: HelloThisIsDog on Thu, 25 February 2021, 02:22:04
Post by: PuddingPug on Thu, 25 February 2021, 15:46:49
On your color code, you mentioned that the alphas are BV but the new renders almost look like N9, which in my opinion looks much better.
Post by: Skok on Thu, 25 February 2021, 16:19:42
Love the look of this set. Are the alphas going to look more like the original kit renders (more brown undertone) or like the newer renders (more charcoal)?
On your color code, you mentioned that the alphas are BV but the new renders almost look like N9, which in my opinion looks much better.
More
(https://i.imgur.com/kgxBJzv.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mYnrYop.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iMGnpFh.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mYnrYop.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iMGnpFh.png)
Definitely ignore the original kit render, at the moment it is just a placeholder until I post the final kits. The alphas are stock GMK BV which is a dark grey-brown color. The top render here is the most accurate and the bottom image is a closeup of one cap.
Post by: PuddingPug on Thu, 25 February 2021, 16:28:21
Love the look of this set. Are the alphas going to look more like the original kit renders (more brown undertone) or like the newer renders (more charcoal)?
On your color code, you mentioned that the alphas are BV but the new renders almost look like N9, which in my opinion looks much better.MoreShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/kgxBJzv.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mYnrYop.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iMGnpFh.png)
Definitely ignore the original kit render, at the moment it is just a placeholder until I post the final kits. The alphas are stock GMK BV which is a dark grey-brown color. The top render here is the most accurate and the bottom image is a closeup of one cap.
Thanks for the reply! So excited for this set.
Post by: R4YN3 on Thu, 25 February 2021, 22:02:11
Post by: richie1788 on Sun, 28 February 2021, 04:32:11
Post by: Trivent on Sun, 28 February 2021, 15:01:59
Post by: babybjorn on Sun, 28 February 2021, 15:27:35
Did the novelties get removed for this, or are they just not finalized yet?There are still novelties. Just waiting on pricing before we post all the final kits.
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Post by: swifthunting on Sun, 28 February 2021, 19:23:56
Post by: nvh2092 on Mon, 01 March 2021, 06:08:53
Post by: westway on Mon, 01 March 2021, 08:21:19
Post by: tomber on Mon, 01 March 2021, 08:39:53
One comment concerning the novelties kit - page up and page down seem to be swapped. Hope that gets fixed before production.
Post by: Jakob on Mon, 01 March 2021, 08:44:50
Post by: dallman5 on Mon, 01 March 2021, 09:33:46
I just saw the pics from the GB page on mykeyboard.eu. Did GMK Norse switch from top-left aligned icon mods to centered icon mods?
Also confused by this. Some of the renders, like the base kit render, seem to show an ambiguous location somewhere between centered and top-left while some renders, like the Bauer one, definitely depict centered. Based on this IC OP I was assuming it would be top-left?
Post by: Skok on Mon, 01 March 2021, 09:49:45
Came to ask about the same thing, the R2 novelty is "PGD" and the R3 novelty is "PGU" which seems wrong. There's also no "HEIM"/"HOME" novelty to correspond with the "END" cap, but that's a nitpick.
Yes good catch, it's slated to go live tomorrow so everything would have been checked over today. I didn't expect it to be up already.
Post by: Skok on Mon, 01 March 2021, 09:52:04
Congrats on the GB.
One comment concerning the novelties kit - page up and page down seem to be swapped. Hope that gets fixed before production.
Yes it will be fixed
Post by: Skok on Mon, 01 March 2021, 09:55:04
I just saw the pics from the GB page on mykeyboard.eu. Did GMK Norse switch from top-left aligned icon mods to centered icon mods?
Yes we did switch to center icon mods. Final kits, pricing, and renders were supposed to be posted today with GB starting tomorrow.
Post by: cs on Mon, 01 March 2021, 10:17:28
Still undecided to join this GB, Norse mono look so cool, but choosing sub-legend over mono in the first round is totally understandable. Good luck in your GB, hope this kit sell well.
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 01 March 2021, 10:19:23
Post by: Skok on Mon, 01 March 2021, 10:33:25
Gg with the changed alignment
I like the mods.
Post by: dallman5 on Mon, 01 March 2021, 10:57:16
Gg with the changed alignment
So you're saying you don't like it when the final kits have yet to be posted and a key stylistic change is announced literally a day before the group buy is set to begin? Weird...
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 01 March 2021, 11:53:35
Or following an IC for long enough and then getting dunked on with an announcement that basically changes the fact whether you'd get the set or not... I mean nbd vote with your wallet, etc etcGg with the changed alignment
So you're saying you don't like it when the final kits have yet to be posted and a key stylistic change is announced literally a day before the group buy is set to begin? Weird...
Got jebaited once with Bingsu (though tbh the colors were still so good), but not this time fam
Post by: ben56k on Mon, 01 March 2021, 12:00:46
Post by: Skok on Mon, 01 March 2021, 12:25:27
How do I know what I should expect to buy?
updated
Post by: Skok on Mon, 01 March 2021, 12:36:30
Standard USD $119.99
Novelty USD $44.99
Aesthetic USD $29.99
Alternate USD $39.99
Obscure USD $46.99
International USD $67.99
RAMA Aluminum USD $38.00
RAMA Brass USD $58.00
SpaceCables collab photos will be posted as soon as I receive them.
Post by: watchsasquatch on Mon, 01 March 2021, 12:49:02
Post by: HelloThisIsDog on Mon, 01 March 2021, 13:24:24
Post by: Skok on Mon, 01 March 2021, 13:27:16
Is there an explanation somewhere of what the runes mean in the novelties kit?
Yes! I almost forgot because prior I did have an explanation posted but that was before I reformatted IC last month. I'll write that up right now.
edit: Full explanation on first page
(https://i.imgur.com/4dp39lP.png)
Post by: Firebear31 on Mon, 01 March 2021, 15:19:12
Post by: Jacki on Mon, 01 March 2021, 15:54:34
Post by: journeymantorturer on Mon, 01 March 2021, 20:11:16
Post by: bat0u on Tue, 02 March 2021, 00:15:36
Post by: richie1788 on Tue, 02 March 2021, 02:03:00
Post by: Nudd on Tue, 02 March 2021, 04:07:34
Good luck with the GB though
Post by: MonsterM on Tue, 02 March 2021, 05:57:41
Post by: Biskwit157 on Tue, 02 March 2021, 06:09:42
Colors look spot on for the teal iron165Thinking of picking this up for the graphite iron165
Post by: Bub on Tue, 02 March 2021, 07:11:58
Post by: super_tu on Tue, 02 March 2021, 09:03:11
Post by: nvh2092 on Tue, 02 March 2021, 10:52:57
should i buy this set or iceburg, sock?both
Post by: RoyalRuby on Tue, 02 March 2021, 11:10:03
I wish I could see a render of this on the graphite iron165. Maybe it'll match well? GL
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Post by: Anarakiii on Tue, 02 March 2021, 14:41:31
Post by: Skok on Tue, 02 March 2021, 17:04:09
(https://i.imgur.com/HS8xKpd.jpg) (https://spaceholdings.net/products/norse-cable)