Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 03 October 2019, 08:21:54
Several people asked me this to happen. So here we go! ;)
Drop Page (https://drop.com/buy/drop-t0mb3ry-sa-yuri-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open)
Current MOQ stats.
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/drop-t0mb3ry-sa-yuri-custom-keycap-set/FP/OfaDtAfdRMiTpEvTZpzd_SA%20Yuri%20numbers%20update%20-%2010-31%20-%20update%202%20-%20post.jpg)
SP SA Yuri
Alphas
(https://i.imgur.com/o4aCqh3.png)
Cyrillics
(https://i.imgur.com/B3Um4gx.png)
Cosmos
(https://i.imgur.com/5uNsir2.png)
Dual Cosmos
(https://i.imgur.com/Ig8YZfJ.png)
Modifiers kit
(https://i.imgur.com/6S1ZOyo.png)
Cyrillic modifiers kit
(https://i.imgur.com/StwM6a0.png)
Dual modifiers kit
(https://i.imgur.com/XFSmt9T.png)
Numpad kit
(https://i.imgur.com/YYgmvwr.png)
Ergodox kit
(https://i.imgur.com/iebAaoh.png)
40%
(https://i.imgur.com/SH2JJHk.png)
Novelties
(https://i.imgur.com/nfipOR5.png)
ISO UK
(https://i.imgur.com/48qJa9Q.png)
6.25u Spacebars
(https://i.imgur.com/Xdo3Xbs.png)
7u Spacebars
(https://i.imgur.com/Y89onlM.png)
Spacekeys
(https://i.imgur.com/ZN2CziC.png)
DCS ALPS Yuri
(https://i.imgur.com/jukGfgr.png)
Renders by Oblotzky
(https://i.imgur.com/CTKJoqr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ahBrH7Q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gcwmeXM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XviP2w8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PUzAuRN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Omrp0le.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UxObp2q.jpg)
Post by: waldorf120 on Thu, 03 October 2019, 08:47:51
Post by: t0rk on Thu, 03 October 2019, 09:38:44
Understandable. But steeeeep.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 03 October 2019, 09:58:14
Yowza. $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..That is why I took the MX route eons ago. Alps is a zombie. Even if you love it, a corpse should be left alone to rest in peace.
Understandable. But steeeeep.
Post by: otanishock on Thu, 03 October 2019, 10:22:35
Post by: Nigolski on Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:17:32
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:19:52
One important note to people who think they wait for lower pricing. It will not get lower if you don't join. This is how it works. It gets lower only if more people join. Those who think they will be able to snag kits on a recap should keep in mind the 20% increase in cost and competing against other buyers on a limited amount of kits. GMK Carbon R2 left others in the last recap is a very good example for this.
Ordered. Always big fan of your work Tom. Thanks for another great set!
Thanks! I always appreciate your support ;)
Post by: hamilton on Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:50:26
Yowza. $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..
Understandable. But steeeeep.
It drop to $130 at 200 kits though
Post by: mode on Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:52:24
Post by: mode on Thu, 03 October 2019, 11:53:16
Yowza. $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..
Understandable. But steeeeep.
Given the zero competition, it's a price I'll gladly pay. We need more ALPS sets and they'll only happen if people buy them.
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Thu, 03 October 2019, 12:50:09
Kinda annoying that Drop still hasn't put in the option for APO address even though they offer APO shipping.
Post by: t0rk on Thu, 03 October 2019, 18:18:46
Yowza. $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..
Understandable. But steeeeep.
It drop to $130 at 200 kits though
I guess we'll figure out how big the market is for ALPS..
Post by: D3LTA on Fri, 04 October 2019, 11:51:15
Post by: Kavik on Fri, 04 October 2019, 12:21:17
Yowza. $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..
Understandable. But steeeeep.
It drop to $130 at 200 kits though
I guess we'll figure out how big the market is for ALPS..
Unless something has changed, Signature Plastic's molds for ALPS mount is terrible. They're too big to fit in Matias switch sliders (Not sure about vintages ALPS) unless the stems are filed down, and the stems themselves very easily snap off the keycaps; at least on DSA keycaps, that is.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 04 October 2019, 12:53:53
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/drop-t0mb3ry-sa-yuri-custom-keycap-set/FP/Wi2VrXBxQBaKwjfjmWzN_SA%20Yuri%20numbers%20update%20-%2010-4%20-%20post.jpg)
There's been some discussion on massdrop regarding a proper Cyrillic F-row kit being added. Can you comment on likelihood and potential timing? Thanks.
Looking at the current sale stats - it would not be feasible to add another kit. So there will be definitely no Cyrillic f-row kit.
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Fri, 04 October 2019, 13:07:46
Yowza. $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..
Understandable. But steeeeep.
It drop to $130 at 200 kits though
I guess we'll figure out how big the market is for ALPS..
Unless something has changed, Signature Plastic's molds for ALPS mount is terrible. They're too big to fit in Matias switch sliders (Not sure about vintages ALPS) unless the stems are filed down, and the stems themselves very easily snap off the keycaps; at least on DSA keycaps, that is.
I have SP ALPS throwback and they fit OG ALPS switches just fine, the only issue I hear is with the spacebar shrinking and being a tight fit.
Post by: mode on Fri, 04 October 2019, 13:31:32
I have SP ALPS throwback and they fit OG ALPS switches just fine, the only issue I hear is with the spacebar shrinking and being a tight fit.
Yup, by all accounts SP DCS is much better for ALPS than DSA.
Tbh, I'll take anything, it's impossible to get ISO ALPS keycaps with a modern layout.
Post by: helborne on Sun, 06 October 2019, 15:47:37
This set is very nice looking. Hoping you hit MOQ.
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Sun, 06 October 2019, 21:23:22
Yowza. $190 for the ALPS set is steeeeep..That is why I took the MX route eons ago. Alps is a zombie. Even if you love it, a corpse should be left alone to rest in peace.
Understandable. But steeeeep.
What do you mean? If you wanted the SA Yuri MX equivalent (Alphas, Mods, Novelties, ISO), it would cost you $65 more than the DCS Alps Kit. Granted, you will get a much better selection of novelties and wider support for ISO.
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Mon, 07 October 2019, 19:25:50
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 07 October 2019, 19:52:41
Looks like there is an update to the ALPS MOQ, it was raised to 200. This is scary for us that were willing to pay the 180$ but I hope we can hit this goal.
Well, the price significantly dropped to $130 ($148.39 total with tax & shipping for me now, down from just about $200 before) with the change to a 200 MOQ so there is that at least, but I concur, gonna be a tight MOQ to meet considering how niche ALPS are in our already niche hobby. Would've definitely preferred the $180 starting price with a 100 set MOQ option staying, but who knows this may be SP's decision to change the MOQ not T0mb3ry's.
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 07 October 2019, 20:02:31
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Mon, 07 October 2019, 20:22:32
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 07 October 2019, 21:22:26
With these kind of GBs do we usually see a consistent amount of people join throughout the GB or is it more of a inverse bell curve? I imagine the majority of people join in the first and last few days.
Pretty much like you are thinking with most joining in the last few weeks from what I have seen on previous keycap GBs.
Post by: mode on Tue, 08 October 2019, 00:40:47
Looks like there is an update to the ALPS MOQ, it was raised to 200. This is scary for us that were willing to pay the 180$ but I hope we can hit this goal.
Well, the price significantly dropped to $130 ($148.39 total with tax & shipping for me now, down from just about $200 before) with the change to a 200 MOQ so there is that at least, but I concur, gonna be a tight MOQ to meet considering how niche ALPS are in our already niche hobby. Would've definitely preferred the $180 starting price with a 100 set MOQ option staying, but who knows this may be SP's decision to change the MOQ not T0mb3ry's.
Yikes, fingers crossed it hits 200 then.
Post by: Sup on Tue, 08 October 2019, 01:37:28
Post by: waldorf120 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 17:43:02
Looks like there is an update to the ALPS MOQ, it was raised to 200.
RIP Alps Yuri :( Thank you for trying T0mb3ry.
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Tue, 08 October 2019, 18:16:33
Looks like there is an update to the ALPS MOQ, it was raised to 200.
RIP Alps Yuri :( Thank you for trying T0mb3ry.
I wouldn't give up yet, theres still alot of time left.
Also thanks for posting the DXF file for your ALPS clueboard build, it made building mine so much easier. :)
Post by: Little4Real on Tue, 08 October 2019, 18:52:15
Post by: waldorf120 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 19:09:31
Also thanks for posting the DXF file for your ALPS clueboard build, it made building mine so much easier. :)
You're welcome! I'm glad you found it useful.
Post by: gminso on Tue, 08 October 2019, 19:12:49
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 08 October 2019, 23:15:10
Post by: mode on Wed, 09 October 2019, 01:30:42
https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/dfd0h8/gb_dcs_alps_price_drops_to_120_moq_200_love_alps/?ref=share&ref_source=link
Post by: Pennywise359 on Wed, 09 October 2019, 02:58:18
I'm in for the alps, I'm hoping it hits 130$ but really I will be happy at 100 orders.You can press F12 and change any state to whatever you want in the page code and it will let you save it.
Kinda annoying that Drop still hasn't put in the option for APO address even though they offer APO shipping.
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Wed, 09 October 2019, 03:04:15
Hoping a bit of promotion helps this, the original r/mechanicalkeyboards post didn't really get much traction
https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/dfd0h8/gb_dcs_alps_price_drops_to_120_moq_200_love_alps/?ref=share&ref_source=link
Looks like you made a typo on the price, It should be 130$ at 200 MOQ.
I'm in for the alps, I'm hoping it hits 130$ but really I will be happy at 100 orders.You can press F12 and change any state to whatever you want in the page code and it will let you save it.
Kinda annoying that Drop still hasn't put in the option for APO address even though they offer APO shipping.
Well that is a lifesaver, thank you so much.
Post by: lz2019 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 04:25:09
Just ordered dual cosmos and dual modifiers. Thanks again to the creator. Really hope this set can successfully happen!
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 10 October 2019, 18:04:35
More
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1570748257447.674987110907959782931905-SAyuriHistory191010.PNG)
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Post by: mode on Fri, 11 October 2019, 08:49:56
Post by: dvorcol on Mon, 14 October 2019, 18:44:37
More
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Post by: Dumble_Hub on Tue, 15 October 2019, 23:38:54
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 18 October 2019, 15:56:47
Posting also the graphs from Dvorcol.
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1571427531275.960579089252501620002900-SAyuriStatus191018.PNG)
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1571427542498.981533449721423628155267-SAyuriHistory191018.PNG)
Post by: piit79 on Sat, 19 October 2019, 02:41:47
Post by: spooknik on Sun, 20 October 2019, 06:14:45
I'm surprised it's going so slow... I was hoping for some price drops :) But I'm sure there will be a jump at the end.
Sadly i'm not suprised.
It's a combination of pricing and people not liking Russia at the moment. The Drop comments are toxic af.
Post by: hyppialonso on Sun, 20 October 2019, 06:21:19
Post by: piit79 on Sun, 20 October 2019, 06:29:42
I am not surprised too, after seeing the price they set.Yeah, the prices are steep. Also, for ortho I'm having to order a $40 spacekeys kit - for one 2u spacebar
Post by: Rumblehotep on Sun, 20 October 2019, 10:47:52
Post by: d.caminero on Sun, 20 October 2019, 16:15:21
Post by: Rob27shred on Sun, 20 October 2019, 16:35:13
+1 for the steep prices. I wanted SO BAD to get SA Yuri all in cyrillics and some child kits, but that plus DCS was above $500. It was hard, but I had to pass on SA.Same here, I'm in for the DCS ALPS mount set over SA to. While I absolutely love SA, I can't pass the opportunity to get in on a ALPS mount set in the Yuri colorway. Hell I would've jumped on the ALPS mount over SA even if it was DSA (my least favorite profile) instead of DCS. Although hopefully they'll let us know if the DCS set isn't gonna make MOQ before the drop closes, cause in that case I will switch my order over to a SA set.
Post by: ChitownM2 on Sun, 20 October 2019, 16:54:12
+1 for the steep prices. I wanted SO BAD to get SA Yuri all in cyrillics and some child kits, but that plus DCS was above $500. It was hard, but I had to pass on SA.Same here, I'm in for the DCS ALPS mount set over SA to. While I absolutely love SA, I can't pass the opportunity to get in on a ALPS mount set in the Yuri colorway. Hell I would've jumped on the ALPS mount over SA even if it was DSA (my least favorite profile) instead of DCS. Although hopefully they'll let us know if the DCS set isn't make MOQ before the drop closes, cause in that case I will switch my order over to a SA set.
I seriously doubt Drop will let you know anything before it closes. They have never done that in the past.
I'm also trying to figure out what to do and I think I'm going to go ahead and place an order for everything that I could possibly want and then also include something that has no chance to make MOQ or be produced (ergodox seems like a good candidate). By including something that won't hit MOQ then we should have the opportunity to edit the order before it is placed. I've never done this before but my understanding is that is how it should work. Also, I don't believe that you can add things to your order after it ends, only cancel. For example, if you were trying to cover a 96 key board, and numpad doesn't get made, you would have the opportunity to also cancel base + mods, but you couldn't at that point, switch over to the ALPS kit or switch to filling a 40%.
Post by: dvorcol on Sun, 20 October 2019, 17:50:56
+1 for the steep prices. I wanted SO BAD to get SA Yuri all in cyrillics and some child kits, but that plus DCS was above $500. It was hard, but I had to pass on SA.Same here, I'm in for the DCS ALPS mount set over SA to. While I absolutely love SA, I can't pass the opportunity to get in on a ALPS mount set in the Yuri colorway. Hell I would've jumped on the ALPS mount over SA even if it was DSA (my least favorite profile) instead of DCS. Although hopefully they'll let us know if the DCS set isn't make MOQ before the drop closes, cause in that case I will switch my order over to a SA set.
I seriously doubt Drop will let you know anything before it closes. They have never done that in the past.
I'm also trying to figure out what to do and I think I'm going to go ahead and place an order for everything that I could possibly want and then also include something that has no chance to make MOQ or be produced (ergodox seems like a good candidate). By including something that won't hit MOQ then we should have the opportunity to edit the order before it is placed. I've never done this before but my understanding is that is how it should work. Also, I don't believe that you can add things to your order after it ends, only cancel. For example, if you were trying to cover a 96 key board, and numpad doesn't get made, you would have the opportunity to also cancel base + mods, but you couldn't at that point, switch over to the ALPS kit or switch to filling a 40%.
I've asked about editing the remainder of your order, but unfortunately it's not an option. You'll be offered two choices: keep the remainder of your order, or cancel everything.
Post by: StanleyLelnats on Sun, 20 October 2019, 19:55:54
I am not surprised too, after seeing the price they set.Yeah, the prices are steep. Also, for ortho I'm having to order a $40 spacekeys kit - for one 2u spacebar
Yeah I really wish they included a 2u space in the 40s kit
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Post by: nightdriver on Mon, 21 October 2019, 01:21:41
was really hoping for double latin / cyrillics on the original color scheme but i guess i can hope for that in R2. now the long wait for production...
this is gonna look amazing on my blue norbatouch.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 23 October 2019, 10:31:41
Here are also some graphs by Dvorcol:
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1571778505152.064647196622188810386702-SAyuriStatus191022.PNG)
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1571778517579.812001761306827148577492-SAyuriHistory191022.PNG)
Post by: heyjaykay on Wed, 23 October 2019, 11:03:38
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 23 October 2019, 11:25:55
New to GBs... If nothing hits MOQ, no production happens?
If you want to join then don't hesitate. Just join it and take the kits you want. If some of your orders does not make it into production then you will get an option to adjust or cancel your order.
Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 23 October 2019, 11:28:49
New to GBs... If nothing hits MOQ, no production happens?
Typically on (Mass)Drop, any kit that reaches its MOQ will be made for sure. If a kit doesn't reach its MOQ, Drop might decide not to make it. It's also possible they will decide to make it anyway. Drop will never charge you for a kit that isn't made.
If there is a kit in your order that isn't made, they will give you the option to a) keep the rest of your order, or b) cancel your entire order. Unfortunately they don't offer the option to revise your order.
Drop has always made cancel/keep decisions AFTER the group buy ends, so don't give up hope and cancel your order at the last minute. Even worse, not ordering at all makes that kit's chances look even worse, discouraging more from not ordering and snowballing to failure.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 23 October 2019, 11:33:10
New to GBs... If nothing hits MOQ, no production happens?
Typically on (Mass)Drop, any kit that reaches its MOQ will be made for sure. If a kit doesn't reach its MOQ, Drop might decide not to make it. It's also possible they will decide to make it anyway. Drop will never charge you for a kit that isn't made.
If there is a kit in your order that isn't made, they will give you the option to a) keep the rest of your order, or b) cancel your entire order. Unfortunately they don't offer the option to revise your order.
Drop has always made cancel/keep decisions AFTER the group buy ends, so don't give up hope and cancel your order at the last minute. Even worse, not ordering at all makes that kit's chances look even worse, discouraging more from not ordering and snowballing to failure.
Oh i though it was possible to adjust the order. Oh well.
Post by: heyjaykay on Wed, 23 October 2019, 11:37:52
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Post by: dvorcol on Wed, 23 October 2019, 11:41:32
New to GBs... If nothing hits MOQ, no production happens?
Typically on (Mass)Drop, any kit that reaches its MOQ will be made for sure. If a kit doesn't reach its MOQ, Drop might decide not to make it. It's also possible they will decide to make it anyway. Drop will never charge you for a kit that isn't made.
If there is a kit in your order that isn't made, they will give you the option to a) keep the rest of your order, or b) cancel your entire order. Unfortunately they don't offer the option to revise your order.
Drop has always made cancel/keep decisions AFTER the group buy ends, so don't give up hope and cancel your order at the last minute. Even worse, not ordering at all makes that kit's chances look even worse, discouraging more from not ordering and snowballing to failure.
Oh i though it was possible to adjust the order. Oh well.
I thought so too, but it wasn't clear so I asked Elbert. He said their current ordering system can't handle modification, but that some future upgrade might. If you have any influence, please request that upgrade!
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Thu, 24 October 2019, 15:50:47
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 24 October 2019, 16:40:43
DCS Yuri kit needs to sell 65% of the MOQ in the next week :'(
Welp, time to buy 10 more sets!
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 29 October 2019, 23:17:17
More
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1572395532047.728510267749770442757296-SAyuriHistory191029.PNG)
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Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 30 October 2019, 09:20:43
Post by: OracleKev on Thu, 31 October 2019, 08:34:20
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 31 October 2019, 11:28:21
Here are some updated graphs by Dvorcol.
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1572467982858.906476136821964053516480-SAyuriStatus191030.PNG)
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1572468002714.923025599142027618524505-SAyuriHistory191030.PNG)
Onboard! Beautiful color way, unique typeface. Completely worth it. :thumb:
Thanks! I appreciate your support ;)
Post by: monovertex on Thu, 31 October 2019, 12:15:11
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 31 October 2019, 22:45:18
More
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1572579652403.483403749088076424969665-SAyuriHistory191031.PNG)
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Post by: mode on Fri, 01 November 2019, 02:03:03
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 01 November 2019, 03:35:58
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/drop-t0mb3ry-sa-yuri-custom-keycap-set/FP/OfaDtAfdRMiTpEvTZpzd_SA%20Yuri%20numbers%20update%20-%2010-31%20-%20update%202%20-%20post.jpg)
It's over, looks like ALPS will land around 100. Should we give up hope?
Nah i think there is a good chance.
Post by: mode on Fri, 01 November 2019, 07:27:22
Guess I’ll start cleaning up my blue alps ready for it :)
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Fri, 01 November 2019, 10:25:20
Post by: dvorcol on Fri, 01 November 2019, 11:40:41
More
MOQ/Pricing list has been updated.Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/drop-t0mb3ry-sa-yuri-custom-keycap-set/FP/OfaDtAfdRMiTpEvTZpzd_SA%20Yuri%20numbers%20update%20-%2010-31%20-%20update%202%20-%20post.jpg)It's over, looks like ALPS will land around 100. Should we give up hope?
Nah i think there is a good chance.
(https://i.postimg.cc/69g55NjJ/SAyuri-Status210815vs-ISP.png)
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/1572621127334.371845541782015932453244-SAyuriHistory191031end.PNG)
Post by: waldorf120 on Fri, 01 November 2019, 12:15:33
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 01 November 2019, 12:20:52
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 01 November 2019, 17:34:15
Post by: Anakey on Fri, 01 November 2019, 18:52:50
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 01 November 2019, 19:11:56
Everything goes into production except for UK ISO and Ergodox :D ;)
WOOHOO!!! Again, thank you for running this. I picked up quite a few SA kits but I’m really excited about the Alps set too. Hope you’ll look at designing some other Alps sets if this one turns out well.
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Fri, 01 November 2019, 19:52:04
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sat, 02 November 2019, 02:06:42
Out of curiosity, did Drop buy out the rest of the Alps sets? That's pretty wild and very surprising. I'm happy.
Yes they did or will do (normal approach at drop and other vendors). And they will offer it in their Recap sales with a markup of 20-30%, thus they'll get the investment back.
Post by: mode on Sat, 02 November 2019, 03:36:22
Everything goes into production except for UK ISO and Ergodox :D ;)
Wonderful! Shame for the ISO folks they don't get a 1.25u shift, but I'm over the moon alps is happening :)
Post by: mode on Sat, 02 November 2019, 07:37:44
http://i.imgur.com/EuDlw1B.jpg?1
That's what alpine looked like.
I've modified my dxf if anyone wants to use it!
Post by: Daellin on Sat, 02 November 2019, 18:54:37
With someone attempting to bring back Blue Alps manufacturing perhaps this is step 1 towards a potential alps future.
Post by: euphxenos on Sat, 02 November 2019, 19:42:19
For some reason, I thought I saw DCS Yuri being MOQ with $180 at 100 units, while 200 units would've been a fat price drop. Awesome news Tomb3ry!
With someone attempting to bring back Blue Alps manufacturing perhaps this is step 1 towards a potential alps future.
You're remembering it correctly -- that's how it was MOQ'd and priced initially, but they changed it partway through the drop. There's a stickied post about this from Elbert in the discussion section for this on Drop dated 10/7/19.
Post by: mode on Fri, 10 April 2020, 07:17:13
They're orange alps but with blue click leaves, the orange sliders/housings were just in much better condition than my blues were.
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Fri, 10 April 2020, 09:00:08
Just finished up the board that's waiting for the alps set :)
They're orange alps but with blue click leaves, the orange sliders/housings were just in much better condition than my blues were.
That is hot! I'm slowly sourcing parts for my Alps build. This has me excited. Also worth mentioning, here is the most recent update on Drop from their representative Kevin on April 6th...
"Latest update from Signature Plastics is that they expect to have everything done by the end of April, and that we should receive it at our warehouse in the first week of May. So, we're moving the expected timeline up to early/mid May"
SooooonTM
Post by: hamilton on Fri, 10 April 2020, 10:04:58
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 10 April 2020, 10:22:51
The Alps kit uses MX style stabilizers iirc so you might need to change your stabilizers
If i see right he has Costar stabs installed - so he is on the safe side.
Post by: HungerMechanic on Fri, 10 April 2020, 10:34:32
Just finished up the board that's waiting for the alps set :)
They're orange alps but with blue click leaves, the orange sliders/housings were just in much better condition than my blues were.
Wow. This is the perfect board for DCS Alps. If I had anything close to that, I would have ordered DCS Yuri as well.
Post by: hamilton on Fri, 10 April 2020, 10:45:49
The Alps kit uses MX style stabilizers iirc so you might need to change your stabilizers
If i see right he has Costar stabs installed - so he is on the safe side.
Oh yes you are correct, nevermind
Post by: mode on Fri, 10 April 2020, 15:01:11
Just finished up the board that's waiting for the alps set :)
They're orange alps but with blue click leaves, the orange sliders/housings were just in much better condition than my blues were.
That is hot! I'm slowly sourcing parts for my Alps build. This has me excited. Also worth mentioning, here is the most recent update on Drop from their representative Kevin on April 6th...
"Latest update from Signature Plastics is that they expect to have everything done by the end of April, and that we should receive it at our warehouse in the first week of May. So, we're moving the expected timeline up to early/mid May"
SooooonTM
The Alps kit uses MX style stabilizers iirc so you might need to change your stabilizers
As t0mb3ry says, they're costar, I know exactly what arrangement SP uses for alps stabs, hence the ISO return being horizontal not vertical, SP alps mount is a bit weird like that.
PCB and case are the LFK-SMK and the YMDK aliexpress CNC case, so it's not even that expensive a build!
I'm looking forward to the extras going up, I want to at least get the SA novelties, I regret not getting those with my alps set.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 23 April 2020, 14:52:29
SP SA Yuri is currently in production and i just want to share a cell phone picture. This is the only picture i got so far and this looks very promising. Keep in mind that keys are not aligned properly and it might look that some letters are off but they aren't.
(https://i.imgur.com/oOM8qtG.jpg)
If i get more pictures then obviously i will share it here with you ;)
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 23 April 2020, 23:13:32
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Fri, 24 April 2020, 05:08:18
I hope you all are doing well.
SP SA Yuri is currently in production and i just want to share a cell phone picture. This is the only picture i got so far and this looks very promising. Keep in mind that keys are not aligned properly and it might look that some letters are off but they aren't.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/oOM8qtG.jpg)
If i get more pictures then obviously i will share it here with you ;)
Any update on ALPS Yuri?
Im guessing COVID is slowing things down.
Post by: trashpanda on Sat, 25 April 2020, 10:11:39
Post by: ZyBeR on Sat, 25 April 2020, 17:05:27
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Sat, 25 April 2020, 22:05:30
Me too - If anyone wants to sell their Alps set, please pm me.
There will 100% be extras. The MOQ for the Alps set was 200 but only 99 kits were sold. Drop bought out the rest. Given the popularity of Alps, shouldn't be too hard to snag a set when they're released.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 29 April 2020, 08:34:45
(https://i.imgur.com/izNTMRz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jIbm2fP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZoTWoVM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/78C81nQ.jpg)
Any update on ALPS Yuri?I'll post here infos/photos as soon as i get something available.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 29 April 2020, 08:43:00
Щ is mirrored. The tail should be on the right side... Already reported.
Post by: mode on Wed, 29 April 2020, 11:42:46
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 30 April 2020, 10:40:31
(https://i.imgur.com/YJGguOn.jpg)
That photo has still quality issues and i think i will be able to review the new legends once i get the production samples. Anyway it looks all promising (of course the Щ needs to be fixed) on the first sight.
Post by: mode on Mon, 04 May 2020, 01:14:44
Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 04 May 2020, 08:42:33
Drop says production is complete, any chance of a shot of DSC Yuri?
So far i don't have any photos i could share here. Afaik i will get soon™ samples for QC and i will make few pictures of course. Also logistic services are recently very slow due to the current situation. So it will take some time...
Post by: mode on Fri, 08 May 2020, 11:48:46
DCS Yuri seconds have started showing up in grab bags!
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 13 May 2020, 11:08:37
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49891241487_07fb240dbb_k.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49890413073_5c037fd314_k.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49890926541_261acb2320_k.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49891231642_6a0ebe162d_k.jpg)
Overall i am happy how dual alphas and mods turned out and at this point i can say that Signature Plastics did here really great job. Note: Numrow is standard and goes well with dual alphas and mods. This was the most worrying point for me.
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 13 May 2020, 11:41:12
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 13 May 2020, 11:50:41
Post by: Stormlex on Wed, 13 May 2020, 11:55:23
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 13 May 2020, 16:08:51
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 14 May 2020, 11:02:34
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 14 May 2020, 11:21:02
(https://i.imgur.com/WxsDKqX.jpg)
Post by: mode on Thu, 14 May 2020, 11:37:48
I was worried they'd have some flaw like the alps throwback set that didn't have homing keys, but they look perfect, can't wait! I hope I can buy a second set when they put the extras up.
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Thu, 14 May 2020, 13:57:05
Wonderful, I'm so glad to see them look good :)
I was worried they'd have some flaw like the alps throwback set that didn't have homing keys, but they look perfect, can't wait! I hope I can buy a second set when they put the extras up.
So im gonna be honest, I been typing on alps throwback for over a year now and never noticed the lack of homing keys...
Post by: mode on Thu, 14 May 2020, 15:19:19
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 14 May 2020, 16:54:55
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 15 May 2020, 08:38:10
The alphas look super crisp and the legend thickness and contrast is superb! The novelty key also looks great. Seems like the orange kinda gets lost on dark blue modifier alphas, though. Wouldn’t have expected that to be an issue. Maybe it’s lighting? I thought the “code” key was a blank until I zoomed in on mobile.
Indeed the font is quite thin and on a smaller screen it would be hard noticeable. In person the legends are better visible but i will definitely consider for future DCS Profile projects (if there will be any i can't say at this point and ALPS set did not so great) to make complete new or use different/bolder font (not sure if SP has any).
Post by: mode on Sat, 16 May 2020, 01:51:38
Post by: ZyBeR on Mon, 18 May 2020, 07:49:10
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Post by: T0mb3ry on Mon, 18 May 2020, 08:32:47
Can you post a picture of the bottom side on an Alps key?Here you are.
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Post by: d.caminero on Mon, 18 May 2020, 09:13:12
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Mon, 18 May 2020, 10:05:33
I hope we don't need to shave down all the stems like with DSA Lightcycle, can't see it from the picture
Should be ok as long as they used the same mold from DCS alps throwback.
Post by: d.caminero on Tue, 19 May 2020, 04:43:49
I hope we don't need to shave down all the stems like with DSA Lightcycle, can't see it from the picture
Should be ok as long as they used the same mold from DCS alps throwback.
Good to know there are two molds for the stems.
Confirmation by Drop/SP/Tomb3ry would be awesome :D
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 19 May 2020, 11:26:34
I hope we don't need to shave down all the stems like with DSA Lightcycle, can't see it from the picture
Should be ok as long as they used the same mold from DCS alps throwback.
Good to know there are two molds for the stems.
Confirmation by Drop/SP/Tomb3ry would be awesome :D
I don't know if its needed to shave down the stems as i don't have an alps keyboard. Anyway its pretty obvious that the stems are different because DSA and DCS are different profiles.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 19 May 2020, 11:57:58
Post by: mode on Tue, 19 May 2020, 12:07:53
I don't know if its needed to shave down the stems as i don't have an alps keyboard. Anyway its pretty obvious that the stems are different because DSA and DCS are different profiles.
Thanks again for running this, especially given you don't have an alps board! Are you at least considering getting one now you have the set?
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 19 May 2020, 12:34:53
I don't know if its needed to shave down the stems as i don't have an alps keyboard. Anyway its pretty obvious that the stems are different because DSA and DCS are different profiles.
Thanks again for running this, especially given you don't have an alps board! Are you at least considering getting one now you have the set?
I need definitely an alps board in the future but i am not sure about switches yet as alps is still mystery for me. I tested few alps switches on meetups and i am not really sure on those. Tho alps browns are extreme bump switches and compared to holy pandas then - well holy pandas do smoke nervously in the corner.
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/9A1riEgpUOoZI5cgwA/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e4763a94d2f9d7c5a3638cb85ac4ad01d8044898e26&rid=giphy.gif)
Note: don't smoke kids its unhealthy.
Anyway I know only that it will be linear alps switch - as alps (as far as i know) was developed as linear switch and i am very strict in this case. I don't like artificial bumps and clicks, which do not contribute anything to the actual switch functionality. If i want bumps - i take Topre keyboard. If i want clicks - i take IBM Model F or beamspring (those are expensive :'( ). Cherry MX and obviously Alps are only true for me if linear.
Its all subjective matter but i am here more on the historical and technical side. If you like bumpy or clicky mx switches - well i am glad those exist and people can enjoy those.
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Tue, 19 May 2020, 22:39:28
I don't know if its needed to shave down the stems as i don't have an alps keyboard. Anyway its pretty obvious that the stems are different because DSA and DCS are different profiles.
Thanks again for running this, especially given you don't have an alps board! Are you at least considering getting one now you have the set?
I need definitely an alps board in the future but i am not sure about switches yet as alps is still mystery for me. I tested few alps switches on meetups and i am not really sure on those. Tho alps browns are extreme bump switches and compared to holy pandas then - well holy pandas do smoke nervously in the corner.Show Image(https://media0.giphy.com/media/9A1riEgpUOoZI5cgwA/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e4763a94d2f9d7c5a3638cb85ac4ad01d8044898e26&rid=giphy.gif)
Note: don't smoke kids its unhealthy.
Anyway I know only that it will be linear alps switch - as alps (as far as i know) was developed as linear switch and i am very strict in this case. I don't like artificial bumps and clicks, which do not contribute anything to the actual switch functionality. If i want bumps - i take Topre keyboard. If i want clicks - i take IBM Model F or beamspring (those are expensive :'( ). Cherry MX and obviously Alps are only true for me if linear.
Its all subjective matter but i am here more on the historical and technical side. If you like bumpy or clicky mx switches - well i am glad those exist and people can enjoy those.
You and Hiney are Kings for supporting Alps and not having any boards yourselves. Thank you.
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 19 May 2020, 23:54:38
Just for clarification. Here you can see all rows of DCS alps bottoms and DCS mx (row 1 only) bottom next to it. As you can see each row requires its own bottom mold and a bottom mold from DSA profile would not be compatible with DCS profile - because DSA is uniform across all rows where DCS has 4 different rows and each row has its specific angle.
I believe he is talking about the DSA light cycle Alps keycaps. It ran in both MX and Alps (I own them both). The first few runs of Alps caps (Alpine Winter, Light Cycle) had stems that were extremely tight on some Alps switches, especially Matias. In addition, the stems tore off very easily when trying to remove the keycap because the fit was so tight. In order to combat this problem, people shaved down the keycap stem on its corners. It was a pain in the ass, but it worked. Unfortunately, some of my Light Cycle stems are very loose. I can lift several caps off without a keycap puller. I have been this wasn't as much of an issue on older, original Alps switches.
DCS Alps throwback used a different stem design from Alpine Winter and Light Cycle.
You can read about it here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94727.msg2592093#msg2592093
Alps Throwback was made with the 1Z mount instead of the EX mount, resulting in a better fitting stem.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 20 May 2020, 00:12:47
I believe he is talking about the DSA light cycle Alps keycaps. It ran in both MX and Alps (I own them both). The first few runs of Alps caps (Alpine Winter, Light Cycle) had stems that were extremely tight on some Alps switches, especially Matias. In addition, the stems tore off very easily when trying to remove the keycap because the fit was so tight. In order to combat this problem, people shaved down the keycap stem on its corners. It was a pain in the ass, but it worked. Unfortunately, some of my Light Cycle stems are very loose. I can lift several caps off without a keycap puller. I have been this wasn't as much of an issue on older, original Alps switches.
DCS Alps throwback used a different stem design from Alpine Winter and Light Cycle.
You can read about it here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94727.msg2592093#msg2592093
Alps Throwback was made with the 1Z mount instead of the EX mount, resulting in a better fitting stem.
Based on following album from the thread you posted: https://imgur.com/a/FI9er
If i understand it right, the 1Z mount stem is little bit shorter than the EX mount. And based on the comparison in this album, if you look from the specific angle the EX stem sticks out beyond of the bottom edge of the keycap where 1Z stem is not visible (from that angle). Anyway if understood it right then it seems like DCS Alps Yuri is using the 1Z mount.
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 20 May 2020, 08:47:49
Just for clarification. Here you can see all rows of DCS alps bottoms and DCS mx (row 1 only) bottom next to it. As you can see each row requires its own bottom mold and a bottom mold from DSA profile would not be compatible with DCS profile - because DSA is uniform across all rows where DCS has 4 different rows and each row has its specific angle.
I believe he is talking about the DSA light cycle Alps keycaps. It ran in both MX and Alps (I own them both). The first few runs of Alps caps (Alpine Winter, Light Cycle) had stems that were extremely tight on some Alps switches, especially Matias. In addition, the stems tore off very easily when trying to remove the keycap because the fit was so tight. In order to combat this problem, people shaved down the keycap stem on its corners. It was a pain in the ass, but it worked. Unfortunately, some of my Light Cycle stems are very loose. I can lift several caps off without a keycap puller. I have been this wasn't as much of an issue on older, original Alps switches.
DCS Alps throwback used a different stem design from Alpine Winter and Light Cycle.
You can read about it here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94727.msg2592093#msg2592093
Alps Throwback was made with the 1Z mount instead of the EX mount, resulting in a better fitting stem.
This is indeed what I was referring to. I do have DSA Lightcycle for ALPS and had to shave them even for vintage original ALPS, more precisely orange and blues. As you say it was a hassle and tedious, but I'd rather shave them that break them.
Thanks to both you and T0mb3ry for confirming :D
Post by: T0mb3ry on Wed, 20 May 2020, 08:51:32
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 20 May 2020, 08:54:14
Just want to show that the stem is shorter which lets me asume this is the 1Z stem.
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Yes, that's definitely the shorter, non-tight version. Awesome work as always T0mb3ry!
Post by: bujorc on Thu, 21 May 2020, 12:51:03
Post by: mode on Thu, 21 May 2020, 12:55:55
On which kind of plates can this Alps set be mounted, any design files available for e.g. custom TKLs?
I posted some ISO plates earlier in the thread, you could use http://builder.swillkb.com + QCAD to make an ANSI version.
Post by: bujorc on Thu, 21 May 2020, 13:36:40
On which kind of plates can this Alps set be mounted, any design files available for e.g. custom TKLs?
I posted some ISO plates earlier in the thread, you could use http://builder.swillkb.com + QCAD to make an ANSI version.
Thanks, appreciated! Is it really at the level where no (famous) custom TKL comes with these Alps plates with MX stabs cutouts or at least the design file published?
Then no wonder these -anyway very few- Alps sets struggle to reach MOQ.
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 21 May 2020, 13:37:04
On which kind of plates can this Alps set be mounted, any design files available for e.g. custom TKLs?
I’m planning to save my set for something nice like the argyle or hiney TKL. You’ll need alps switch cutouts with Cherry Stabilizer holes.
Post by: mode on Thu, 21 May 2020, 14:07:17
On which kind of plates can this Alps set be mounted, any design files available for e.g. custom TKLs?
I posted some ISO plates earlier in the thread, you could use http://builder.swillkb.com + QCAD to make an ANSI version.
Thanks, appreciated! Is it really at the level where no (famous) custom TKL comes with these Alps plates with MX stabs cutouts or at least the design file published?
Then no wonder these -anyway very few- Alps sets struggle to reach MOQ.
It's really not hard to design your own plate, I can knock one up for filco/YMDK cases if you like. Costar or GMK stabs?
Post by: mode on Fri, 22 May 2020, 14:20:36
I've had my plates fabricated by laserboost on 1.5mm brushed steel, that's worked well for me.
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Fri, 22 May 2020, 15:31:47
All credit goes to Kiwi on discord for doing the cad work.
Post by: mode on Sun, 24 May 2020, 02:05:59
Looks like it's delayed a bit more to fix some issues, definitely required given how wonky the caps they posted looked!
Post by: bujorc on Tue, 26 May 2020, 16:01:37
I did both in one plate, this'll work fine with the LFK-TKL PCB https://www.lfkeyboards.com/lfk-tkl/ and aliexpress case https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32617566709.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32617566709.html)
I've had my plates fabricated by laserboost on 1.5mm brushed steel, that's worked well for me.
If we are sharing plate files here is my FC660 alps plate that fits with the FC660 aluminum case and Clueboard 66% PCB.
All credit goes to Kiwi on discord for doing the cad work.
Thank you very much, very helpful! I will look into it, now there is a chance to fully use this Alps set :)
Post by: mode on Wed, 10 June 2020, 09:08:35
Wonder when the extras will go up.
Post by: hamilton on Wed, 10 June 2020, 11:02:53
Post by: Amr0d on Fri, 12 June 2020, 09:43:22
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 12 June 2020, 12:11:31
Is there a way to join the group buy or buy one of these sets somehow?
The only way right now is to wait for sets being shipped to customers and after that try to get them either from mechmarket or drop recap sale.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 12 June 2020, 23:51:06
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 13 June 2020, 17:05:34
Ha. That took me way too long to figure out which keycap goes where. It's been a long time since I had to look at a photo to get it right. :thumb: This is the most accurate I could get for color. Keep in mind this is natural shaded light. There is a window to my left and it's 5:00pm. The desk mat is a cool white and black. Colors are really nice. I wish the orange popped more on the dark blue, but overall, the aesthetic is quite lovely.
Post by: blighty on Sat, 13 June 2020, 19:45:39
One thing I forgot about is how sharp the space keys are on the thumbs. I spent a few minutes with a file on the front edges to make them a bit more comfortable. For some reason i thought SP had molds for convex space keys. Wishful thinking perhaps? :)
Thanks for another awesome set!
Post by: T0mb3ry on Sun, 14 June 2020, 05:42:31
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Ha. That took me way too long to figure out which keycap goes where. It's been a long time since I had to look at a photo to get it right. :thumb: This is the most accurate I could get for color. Keep in mind this is natural shaded light. There is a window to my left and it's 5:00pm. The desk mat is a cool white and black. Colors are really nice. I wish the orange popped more on the dark blue, but overall, the aesthetic is quite lovely.
As i said before Yuri makes it hard for any camera. You basically has to do manual white balance. My both cameras Fuji and Canon always tried to take alphas as white color...
The OAV color came out here little bit darker than i suspected but its still very distinctive if i look at my board with dual alphas and dual mods. I do think that the symbols will be more pronounced once the set starts to shine (as it supposed to do).
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One thing I forgot about is how sharp the space keys are on the thumbs. I spent a few minutes with a file on the front edges to make them a bit more comfortable. For some reason i thought SP had molds for convex space keys. Wishful thinking perhaps? :)
Thanks for another awesome set!
Yeah, getting new mold for spacebars in these specific sizes is wishful thinking right now. Thing is - you need two different sizes and that would require two new molds which will then rise the price for those spacebars significantly.
Looking at the photo, i do think it would be better to polish those filed out edges and thus remove rough surface left from filing.
Post by: mode on Sun, 14 June 2020, 05:59:51
Post by: blighty on Sun, 14 June 2020, 09:38:34
Yeah, getting new mold for spacebars in these specific sizes is wishful thinking right now. Thing is - you need two different sizes and that would require two new molds which will then rise the price for those spacebars significantly.
Looking at the photo, i do think it would be better to polish those filed out edges and thus remove rough surface left from filing.
I thought about buffing the filed edges, but I'm curious if I will smooth them out through use. As it stands it the texture isn't noticeable while typing, so I'm not too concerned with it.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 14 June 2020, 15:43:03
This is the most accurate I could get for color.
Pics in your bright bathroom > accuracy. Look forward to the 2020 blue keyset group picture too.
Post by: wil on Mon, 15 June 2020, 20:54:07
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 15 June 2020, 21:34:13
absolutely gorgeous set. delighted by how it turned out. i am curious though about one thing in particular: with SP SA is it normal to have caps with so many (for my lack of a better term) "machine marks"? a lot of my modifier keys have "scratches", ones that you can see only at a certain angle. my r3 pipe key for example has two big scratches. i am hopeful with time that they will go away after the shine develops, but even then it's not a big deal. i am just curious if it's normal.
Yes, that has been the case in every SP set I’ve owned.
Post by: konstantin on Tue, 16 June 2020, 03:57:43
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Ha. That took me way too long to figure out which keycap goes where. It's been a long time since I had to look at a photo to get it right. :thumb: This is the most accurate I could get for color. Keep in mind this is natural shaded light. There is a window to my left and it's 5:00pm. The desk mat is a cool white and black. Colors are really nice. I wish the orange popped more on the dark blue, but overall, the aesthetic is quite lovely.
Bold and beautiful.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 16 June 2020, 08:48:04
absolutely gorgeous set. delighted by how it turned out. i am curious though about one thing in particular: with SP SA is it normal to have caps with so many (for my lack of a better term) "machine marks"? a lot of my modifier keys have "scratches", ones that you can see only at a certain angle. my r3 pipe key for example has two big scratches. i am hopeful with time that they will go away after the shine develops, but even then it's not a big deal. i am just curious if it's normal.
Those markings are left from injection process and you basically see the plastic flow during that process. They are visible because of the natural semi matte surface. If the caps had texture like Cherry or DCS profile then those markings would not be visible. Once the caps start to shine they should become invisible.
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Tue, 16 June 2020, 16:22:24
Post by: wil on Tue, 16 June 2020, 18:40:34
absolutely gorgeous set. delighted by how it turned out. i am curious though about one thing in particular: with SP SA is it normal to have caps with so many (for my lack of a better term) "machine marks"? a lot of my modifier keys have "scratches", ones that you can see only at a certain angle. my r3 pipe key for example has two big scratches. i am hopeful with time that they will go away after the shine develops, but even then it's not a big deal. i am just curious if it's normal.
Those markings are left from injection process and you basically see the plastic flow during that process. They are visible because of the natural semi matte surface. If the caps had texture like Cherry or DCS profile then those markings would not be visible. Once the caps start to shine they should become invisible.
fascinating stuff. thank you for explaining the process t0mb3ry. going to enjoy this set thoroughly and wait for the day when it gets ran again through GMK.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 18 June 2020, 08:22:13
Noticed that the "? /" is a little odd.
Indeed its odd. Tho i did not noticed it but the "' ` symbols which were way too bold for the rest of the symbols. Those keys should have been replaced and be inline style-wise with other symbols.
Post by: T0mb3ry on Thu, 18 June 2020, 13:08:46
Drop will offer extras for purchase pretty soon. In order to be notified about the availability you need to press request button on the site.
https://drop.com/buy/drop-t0mb3ry-sa-yuri-custom-keycap-set
Post by: mode on Thu, 18 June 2020, 15:36:49
just want those novelties!
Post by: J3ff_Leopard on Thu, 18 June 2020, 15:46:23
Noticed that the "? /" is a little odd.
Indeed its odd. Tho i did not noticed it but the "' ` symbols which were way too bold for the rest of the symbols. Those keys should have been replaced and be inline style-wise with other symbols.
I checked out everything and the "' ` symbols were definitely fixed in my set. :thumb: I'm very happy with my set, thanks T0mb3ry!
Post by: mode on Fri, 19 June 2020, 09:53:13
Super happy with this.
Looks incredible IMO, Thankyou very much T0mb3ry for what is I think the best looking alps set ever.
Post by: HungerMechanic on Fri, 19 June 2020, 11:02:43
Post by: mode on Fri, 19 June 2020, 12:12:58
Post by: Mekanist on Fri, 19 June 2020, 14:15:08
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 19 June 2020, 15:27:13
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4PsAnpr.jpg)
Super happy with this.
Looks incredible IMO, Thankyou very much T0mb3ry for what is I think the best looking alps set ever.
Fantastic! First custom alps board with Yuri. I was thinking it will take some time until i see first alps builds with Yuri.
I am glad people are enjoying their sets and specifically the DCS ALPS sets. I wish personally the ALPS set to be with more bold Cherry font but it was already expensive...
Im so sad about missing this set. Easily one of the nicest color combinations out there :(Hit the Request button on the following site and you will be notified then the extras go live. It should happen soon.
https://drop.com/buy/drop-t0mb3ry-sa-yuri-custom-keycap-set
Post by: mode on Sat, 20 June 2020, 01:38:09
Post by: Zephyraeon on Sat, 20 June 2020, 04:58:05
Extras are up now, have nabbed full cyrillics and an alps set for a mate and novelties for myself :)
Thanks for posting this! Didn't get an email from drop but have now picked up the alps set :)
Post by: mode on Sat, 20 June 2020, 05:23:50
Held off a second set of alps, looks like more sets will be coming and I wanna support them.
Post by: waldorf120 on Sat, 20 June 2020, 14:49:25
The Alps Yuri has arrived and it is magnificent! :D Thank you for making this happen T0mb3ry
Post by: dstaar on Sat, 20 June 2020, 23:54:58
Post by: waldorf120 on Sun, 21 June 2020, 13:04:20
I already posted an image but here's another to show how versatile this set is. First SP Alps set that can fit a TKL! It looks glorious on my Ice Planet custom. Now to figure out the qmk codes for assigning the means of production to the workers and overthrowing the bourgeois.
Post by: konstantin on Sun, 21 June 2020, 15:55:48
Now to figure out the qmk codes for assigning the means of production to the workers and overthrowing the bourgeois.
Best comment on this entire thread :D
Post by: waldorf120 on Sun, 21 June 2020, 18:45:32
Now to figure out the qmk codes for assigning the means of production to the workers and overthrowing the bourgeois.
Best comment on this entire thread :D
:D Спасибо товарищ
I created a for sale thread to sell (ironic I know) the three additional Alps DCS Yuri sets I purchased. Check it out if interested.
Post by: GwenAlli on Wed, 24 June 2020, 15:47:19
(https://i.imgur.com/KJHii9B.jpg)
Post by: Anakey on Thu, 25 June 2020, 13:55:05
Post by: matrixzj on Fri, 17 July 2020, 12:02:34
- Wrong '3' from numpad kit (https://i.imgur.com/dQXMv49.jpg)
- Missing './>' from dual cosmos kit, and duplicated ',/<' was provided(https://i.imgur.com/aMMUJt2.jpg?1)
But after 1 weeks no response, final reply from Drop is that they refused to provided replacement for wrong keys and explained that no more leftovers. A the same time, Drop was very hurry to sell all leftovers to make money.
Post by: trashpanda on Mon, 20 July 2020, 15:38:27
Post by: wil on Mon, 20 July 2020, 16:38:16
The render were such a bright, beautiful blue with gorgeous red legends. In reality, the keys are dull-ish, and while the blue is tolerable, the legends are in reality kind of a gross, muddy orange. Considering sending them back... I really hate orange :-(
i agree that the keys are a bit more dull than expected in terms of the vibrancy of the legend, but red? you might want to get a new monitor.
Post by: Morgan3Wheeler on Mon, 20 July 2020, 22:00:14
In my experience so far, the After Service of personal vendors was better than Drop.
I have prayed that there would be no error whenever I received SP keysets set from Drop.
I hope the future SP GB will be run at the personal vendor not Drop.
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 31 July 2020, 15:03:54
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 31 July 2020, 15:28:21
Post by: mode on Sat, 01 August 2020, 00:44:33
I think i've figured out the issue. All they need to do is add the supports around the stem to keep it from going in too deep to the switch. Those supports are there on the other stabilized keys. If you press the cap all the way into the switch, it doesn't work. But if you carefully put it on and don't press down all the way it works much better.
What stabs are you using? I had trouble with filco style costar, swapped to non-filco and it was absolutely fine no matter how far down the spacebar was pushed.
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 01 August 2020, 01:22:31
Post by: Havattack on Wed, 30 September 2020, 14:39:11
1st Post
I thought you guys might get a kick out of this, and didn't know where to post this. It's a "Redragon K596 Vishnu" That i customized quite a bit. Puttied in the membrane switch holes on the top of the case (5 macros, and some media buttons) that still leaves me the 5 macro mech switches and the volume knob. Put some "sorbathane" on the bottom of the case, and some foam between the pcb and plate. Painted the case, including the cool pin striping (makes it faster). And got a custom, matching, desk mat, from "inked gaming" ( i still have the pic i mocked up for them to use for the mat, if anyone wants it) it's a illustrated, pin-up, cosmonaut girl.. I was very impressed with the job they did on the mat, and will be getting more from them for future keyboard builds.
Problems: The kahli navy blue switches would not fit into the pcb. The two metal pins seemed to be both too thick, and slightly too long on one pin. But, i fuc.. (i didn't read the rules, are we allowed to say fun words, or are the admins superstitious?) ..ing loved those switches, and managed to get them to work by filing them down... Took a LONG time..
Also, i ordered the Alps key-caps for the alpha-numeric keys,.... NOT knowing they were a different stem... Then proceed to order alp SWITCHES after the keys arrived, and i then found out, alp switches don't fit in MX plate/pcbs... So i had the bright (it wasn't very bright) idea to just break off the alp stems and glue on some MX ones that i broke off from the keys that came with the keyboard.. It was a nightmare trying to get all those keys positioned correctly.
Next up, a skeletor or Synthwave build.
Ans the SA profile is SO much better then cherry.. Thicker, more old school fibe to me, i love it.
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Post by: directheatedtriode on Mon, 18 January 2021, 17:01:41
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4PsAnpr.jpg)
Super happy with this.
Looks incredible IMO, Thankyou very much T0mb3ry for what is I think the best looking alps set ever.
Fantastic! First custom alps board with Yuri. I was thinking it will take some time until i see first alps builds with Yuri.
I am glad people are enjoying their sets and specifically the DCS ALPS sets. I wish personally the ALPS set to be with more bold Cherry font but it was already expensive...Im so sad about missing this set. Easily one of the nicest color combinations out there :(Hit the Request button on the following site and you will be notified then the extras go live. It should happen soon.
https://drop.com/buy/drop-t0mb3ry-sa-yuri-custom-keycap-set
Any chance of base Alps DCS Yuri re-running? It's odd that Drop won't let me hit "request", maybe because some of the smaller sets are still available?
Post by: Tyson on Mon, 18 January 2021, 17:12:54
1st Mech Keyboard.
1st Post
I thought you guys might get a kick out of this, and didn't know where to post this. It's a "Redragon K596 Vishnu" That i customized quite a bit. Puttied in the membrane switch holes on the top of the case (5 macros, and some media buttons) that still leaves me the 5 macro mech switches and the volume knob. Put some "sorbathane" on the bottom of the case, and some foam between the pcb and plate. Painted the case, including the cool pin striping (makes it faster). And got a custom, matching, desk mat, from "inked gaming" ( i still have the pic i mocked up for them to use for the mat, if anyone wants it) it's a illustrated, pin-up, cosmonaut girl.. I was very impressed with the job they did on the mat, and will be getting more from them for future keyboard builds.
Problems: The kahli navy blue switches would not fit into the pcb. The two metal pins seemed to be both too thick, and slightly too long on one pin. But, i fuc.. (i didn't read the rules, are we allowed to say fun words, or are the admins superstitious?) ..ing loved those switches, and managed to get them to work by filing them down... Took a LONG time..
Also, i ordered the Alps key-caps for the alpha-numeric keys,.... NOT knowing they were a different stem... Then proceed to order alp SWITCHES after the keys arrived, and i then found out, alp switches don't fit in MX plate/pcbs... So i had the bright (it wasn't very bright) idea to just break off the alp stems and glue on some MX ones that i broke off from the keys that came with the keyboard.. It was a nightmare trying to get all those keys positioned correctly.
Next up, a skeletor or Synthwave build.
Ans the SA profile is SO much better then cherry.. Thicker, more old school fibe to me, i love it.
(Attachment Link)
Please say sike
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 18 January 2021, 17:22:26
1st Mech Keyboard.
1st Post
I thought you guys might get a kick out of this, and didn't know where to post this. It's a "Redragon K596 Vishnu" That i customized quite a bit. Puttied in the membrane switch holes on the top of the case (5 macros, and some media buttons) that still leaves me the 5 macro mech switches and the volume knob. Put some "sorbathane" on the bottom of the case, and some foam between the pcb and plate. Painted the case, including the cool pin striping (makes it faster). And got a custom, matching, desk mat, from "inked gaming" ( i still have the pic i mocked up for them to use for the mat, if anyone wants it) it's a illustrated, pin-up, cosmonaut girl.. I was very impressed with the job they did on the mat, and will be getting more from them for future keyboard builds.
Problems: The kahli navy blue switches would not fit into the pcb. The two metal pins seemed to be both too thick, and slightly too long on one pin. But, i fuc.. (i didn't read the rules, are we allowed to say fun words, or are the admins superstitious?) ..ing loved those switches, and managed to get them to work by filing them down... Took a LONG time..
Also, i ordered the Alps key-caps for the alpha-numeric keys,.... NOT knowing they were a different stem... Then proceed to order alp SWITCHES after the keys arrived, and i then found out, alp switches don't fit in MX plate/pcbs... So i had the bright (it wasn't very bright) idea to just break off the alp stems and glue on some MX ones that i broke off from the keys that came with the keyboard.. It was a nightmare trying to get all those keys positioned correctly.
Next up, a skeletor or Synthwave build.
Ans the SA profile is SO much better then cherry.. Thicker, more old school fibe to me, i love it.
(Attachment Link)
Please say sike
I think dude is dead serious...... :eek:
Post by: waldorf120 on Wed, 20 January 2021, 18:32:55
Any chance of base Alps DCS Yuri re-running? It's odd that Drop won't let me hit "request", maybe because some of the smaller sets are still available?
I still have three Alps Yuri sets available which I purchased to help the group buy go through. You can see pictures of them on my for sale thread.
Post by: giacombum on Tue, 27 September 2022, 12:45:07
Post by: T0mb3ry on Tue, 27 September 2022, 12:47:02
Any chance to get a SA Yuri set for Cherry? Does anyone is selling his kit?i guess you mean cherry profile
https://oblotzky.industries/products/gmk-yuri-r2
here you are
Post by: 4milk on Thu, 29 September 2022, 19:45:59
Post by: twitchytheinsideman on Wed, 11 January 2023, 15:56:40
1st Mech Keyboard.
1st Post
I thought you guys might get a kick out of this, and didn't know where to post this. It's a "Redragon K596 Vishnu" That i customized quite a bit. Puttied in the membrane switch holes on the top of the case (5 macros, and some media buttons) that still leaves me the 5 macro mech switches and the volume knob. Put some "sorbathane" on the bottom of the case, and some foam between the pcb and plate. Painted the case, including the cool pin striping (makes it faster). And got a custom, matching, desk mat, from "inked gaming" ( i still have the pic i mocked up for them to use for the mat, if anyone wants it) it's a illustrated, pin-up, cosmonaut girl.. I was very impressed with the job they did on the mat, and will be getting more from them for future keyboard builds.
Problems: The kahli navy blue switches would not fit into the pcb. The two metal pins seemed to be both too thick, and slightly too long on one pin. But, i fuc.. (i didn't read the rules, are we allowed to say fun words, or are the admins superstitious?) ..ing loved those switches, and managed to get them to work by filing them down... Took a LONG time..
Also, i ordered the Alps key-caps for the alpha-numeric keys,.... NOT knowing they were a different stem... Then proceed to order alp SWITCHES after the keys arrived, and i then found out, alp switches don't fit in MX plate/pcbs... So i had the bright (it wasn't very bright) idea to just break off the alp stems and glue on some MX ones that i broke off from the keys that came with the keyboard.. It was a nightmare trying to get all those keys positioned correctly.
Next up, a skeletor or Synthwave build.
Ans the SA profile is SO much better then cherry.. Thicker, more old school fibe to me, i love it.
(Attachment Link)
cursed. but i like it :thumb: