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Title: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: Qarmaa on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:04:29
(https://i.imgur.com/viZfCHx.png)

WoB featuring UV-printed red Cyrillic sublegends

IC form (https://forms.gle/RKzgqWkCqMvu1yfL8)



(https://i.imgur.com/GPER1Yd.png) (https://i.imgur.com/40VBMU1.png)
Colors: CR/WS1 + P3


This set will feature new set of Cyrillic legends that Alexbarb and me put together. They are very similar to latin GMK/Cherry in the sense of typeface. The idea was to make as accurate as possible Cyrillic. In addition to most noticable legend changes (У, Ж, Л), Cyrillic was completely redone from the ground up.
Sublegends on R (К), T (Е), Y (Н), [ (Х), D (В), F (А), H (Р), J (О), Z (Я), C (С), V (M), B (И), N (Т) as well as sublegends on num row will be using original GMK (Cherry) font since glyphs are the same. Rest are custom outlines with original latin legends in mind.

Huge thanks to Alexbarb for make this happened!



Jane V2 CE

(https://i.imgur.com/viZfCHx.png) (https://i.imgur.com/FHZGX3r.png)

Calliope :}
featuring uwus (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=112786.0)

(https://i.imgur.com/kmZCtmG.png) (https://i.imgur.com/lqSt1Mk.png)



GB starts October 1st with base price of $130 and Icon mods kit of $26 (NA)

Vendors
NA: Space Cables
SA: Fancy Customs
CA: Ashkeebs
EU: Mykeyboard
UK: ProtoTypist
SEA: iLumKB
AU: Dailyclack
CN: Zfrontier
KR: Swagkeys
JP: Basekeys




Shout out to: Marco for stunning renders, of_Sam, Baul
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: of_sam on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:04:49
Itís too good.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Vortext on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:06:09
Good
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: kk73715 on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:06:35
Wew
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Avocadough on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:06:46
sign me up
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: infectedqt on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:11:22
im in.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: sup3r170va on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:16:32
Thanks for running this. I am in.
A couple of suggestions for your consideration:
As you said, WoB is constantly running, so we would have the icon+text mods already. Will you consider a set of icon only mods?
Also, can you consider the 1.25u bottom row in R5 instead?
Finally, any plans for a spacebar kit, including 2x 3u spacebars? Thanks!
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: hali on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:19:25
yeah
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Qarmaa on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:23:34
As you said, WoB is constantly running, so we would have the icon+text mods already. Will you consider a set of icon only mods?
Busy sets with sublegends doesn't looks good with icons for most of the time for me personally. And I'm a fan of icon + text.

Also, can you consider the 1.25u bottom row in R5 instead?
A fever peope would use that, so I decided to not include ansi bottom row R5 support. It will just make base more expensive.

Finally, any plans for a spacebar kit, including 2x 3u spacebars? Thanks!
Recent WoB sets run with split spacebars support in base or as a separate kit. I want to keep it simple.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: sup3r170va on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:28:01
As you said, WoB is constantly running, so we would have the icon+text mods already. Will you consider a set of icon only mods?
Busy sets with sublegends doesn't looks good with icons for most of the time for me personally. And I'm a fan of icon + text.

Also, can you consider the 1.25u bottom row in R5 instead?
A fever peope would use that, so I decided to not include ansi bottom row R5 support. It will just make base more expensive.

Finally, any plans for a spacebar kit, including 2x 3u spacebars? Thanks!
Recent WoB sets run with split spacebars support in base or as a separate kit. I want to keep it simple.

Thanks for the replies. I personally think icon only mods are cleaner when there are sublegends for the alphas. But respect the designer's choices. Happy to support.
Lastly, pls consider an SEA vendor like Monokei or IlumKB :)
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: hali on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:42:50
Can we get Prt Sc/Sys Rq and Scroll Lock instead of the current legends?
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: paulgali on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:43:57
OH MY GOD YES!
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: AASH on Sun, 25 July 2021, 09:49:01
The set looks fire! Would you think about minimal 40s support in base? I gave more details in my IC form answer

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Title: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Rory on Sun, 25 July 2021, 10:01:11
I liked how ttom include 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars in the base for Cyrillic beige and wob that ran not long ago. Itís an added incentive for incentive for me.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 25 July 2021, 10:02:18
Nice. I'd buy this.

edit: with lots of changes to the kitting, frankly. PMing feedback.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Kinesiologist on Sun, 25 July 2021, 11:15:10
definitely in for this.
Having a Canadian vendor would be the cherry on top :D
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Zestrion on Sun, 25 July 2021, 11:24:28
DAY 1 SLAM HERE WE COME BABY
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: sirieous on Sun, 25 July 2021, 11:24:32
At long last. Gib
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: IMZO on Sun, 25 July 2021, 11:40:34
Instabuy
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: packman86 on Sun, 25 July 2021, 11:58:28
This is neat.

Has been mentioned previously but would love to have the small Alice spacebars included since the 2nd B is already here.
Also big thanks for adding Alt Gr and R5 bottom row  :thumb:

Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: nqbshas on Sun, 25 July 2021, 12:15:06
This is nice. Lets.

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Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: ilikerustoo on Sun, 25 July 2021, 12:47:30
In.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: onedrunkman on Sun, 25 July 2021, 12:59:20
I'm down for this. Nice job uncle  :thumb:
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Sicowa on Sun, 25 July 2021, 13:04:34
hot keyset.
even hotter board renders
 :eek:
Looks great qarmaa, glwic
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: tommyhongg on Sun, 25 July 2021, 13:32:50
Looking forward to it. Good luck sir!
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Neely_12 on Sun, 25 July 2021, 13:34:56
I need red Cyrillic in my life. A separate alpha kit would be ideal, but as long as the base isn't too expensive I'm in. Good luck!
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: krzank on Sun, 25 July 2021, 13:55:46
Please add R4:Pipe/Backslash
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: mixistor on Sun, 25 July 2021, 13:56:08
Icon mods, please!! So good. :D
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Qarmaa on Sun, 25 July 2021, 13:59:01
Since a lot of people asked for split spacebars, they were added in the base.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: lalostad98 on Sun, 25 July 2021, 14:37:21
So good, Count me in!
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: PleasantChaos on Sun, 25 July 2021, 15:14:48
 :thumb: Getting this if the kitting is a little bit better
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 25 July 2021, 15:33:08
Onion dome Rama?

I'd be curious to how many here -don't- have WoB in some format and whether this could be an alpha kit.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: KucherenkoZZZ on Sun, 25 July 2021, 16:02:16
Мальчик, 2u спейсбар нам принеси, мы домой летим
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: LXVRGS on Sun, 25 July 2021, 16:45:42
in for 2
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: sourmk on Sun, 25 July 2021, 16:48:08
Nice set, nice renders.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: ogp3 on Sun, 25 July 2021, 17:10:33
Definitely in 100%
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: jakey on Sun, 25 July 2021, 17:40:35
I am in! Love Cyrillic!
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: AaronR on Sun, 25 July 2021, 21:00:46
Daily Clack to proxy please
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 25 July 2021, 21:32:54
will cop
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: packman86 on Sun, 25 July 2021, 22:21:06
Since a lot of people asked for split spacebars, they were added in the base.

I love you! 😘
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Bunn3y on Sun, 25 July 2021, 23:32:43
Great work Qarmaa <3
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: hottrout on Mon, 26 July 2021, 05:01:56
In for sure, please get UK ISO into the base kit and lets get a Rama or similar to make this.  I think a lot of people will love to have this so there may be enough support for a lot of kits.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Dyto69 on Mon, 26 July 2021, 05:14:34
yep im in, i need this
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 26 July 2021, 05:27:38
oh no my wallet's in danger. GB ETA?
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: rookb on Mon, 26 July 2021, 09:19:32
this is so hot
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Pyroo on Mon, 26 July 2021, 09:20:32
This is real nice
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: ephemeral25 on Mon, 26 July 2021, 12:45:12
R3 Pipe and R5 bottom row.

You know how to make me happy uncle  :-*

Good job for the fixed legends, it's not just yet another cyrillic keyset !

Didn't join any full GMK keyset since last year. Won't risk the extras for this one
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Grindbox on Mon, 26 July 2021, 12:50:38
I'm 100% in on day one.  I've been waiting for a kit like this for a while!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: wowaweewa on Mon, 26 July 2021, 14:17:07
I've wanted this set for so long now, get it manufactured already!
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Bachoo on Mon, 26 July 2021, 15:37:32
Sign me tf up
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: prettydouchebag on Mon, 26 July 2021, 16:16:18
This is too good. Ty qarmaa, bby.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: EnlargedCrouton on Mon, 26 July 2021, 17:08:54
sorry if im stupid but isnt this just the same as gmk originative cyrillic
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: beigeandbrown on Mon, 26 July 2021, 18:52:14
sorry if im stupid but isnt this just the same as gmk originative cyrillic
Pretty much. It's pretty standard to respect the designers and not run similar sets, but originative isn't really a designer, and wob with sublegends isn't really a design, it's just something that is extremely rare right now and this runner is making it available since originative hasn't in several years IIRC.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: ohwe on Mon, 26 July 2021, 19:02:37
Yes.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Qarmaa on Mon, 26 July 2021, 19:14:33
sorry if im stupid but isnt this just the same as gmk originative cyrillic
Yes and no. Yes in the sense that I'm using the same idea. No 'cause this set will have correct cyrillic legends compare to what was before (old cherry ones).
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Mr_Spaceman on Mon, 26 July 2021, 23:43:31
This looks clean AF! Sold!
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: hpkb on Tue, 27 July 2021, 00:38:03
+1
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: lovidore on Tue, 27 July 2021, 00:47:45
In for 2. Thanks.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 27 July 2021, 10:42:52
A must buy obviously. Such a classic.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: fropsie on Tue, 27 July 2021, 12:37:32
Hell yeah, it's about time.
This is a godsend.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Slayer77 on Wed, 28 July 2021, 05:00:06
Any reason to go with this over tripleshot JTK?

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Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 28 July 2021, 05:13:07
Any reason to go with this over tripleshot JTK?

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I have similar thoughts.  I have the Inifiinikey Dark Cyrillic sets in blue and purple and I really like them.  Interested to see what GMK can bring.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Sycomore on Wed, 28 July 2021, 06:29:12
I'll take 3, thanks.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: sup3r170va on Wed, 28 July 2021, 07:25:03
I have similar thoughts.  I have the Inifiinikey Dark Cyrillic sets in blue and purple and I really like them.  Interested to see what GMK can bring.

Any reason to go with this over tripleshot JTK?

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Not the TS, but I have used and sold JTK tripleshot alphas before (JTK suited assassin). I find the keycaps to be inferior to GMK in terms of how they feel when typing. It feels more hollow/cheap (sorry, may not be the best word here).

And I think GMK UV printing is pretty good. I own GMK keycaps that are UV printed and they hold up well.

Looking forward to the GB already!

Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Entity. on Wed, 28 July 2021, 07:30:45
count me in
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Slayer77 on Wed, 28 July 2021, 08:43:41
I have similar thoughts.  I have the Inifiinikey Dark Cyrillic sets in blue and purple and I really like them.  Interested to see what GMK can bring.

Any reason to go with this over tripleshot JTK?

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Not the TS, but I have used and sold JTK tripleshot alphas before (JTK suited assassin). I find the keycaps to be inferior to GMK in terms of how they feel when typing. It feels more hollow/cheap (sorry, may not be the best word here).

And I think GMK UV printing is pretty good. I own GMK keycaps that are UV printed and they hold up well.

Looking forward to the GB already!
I used the tripleshot Zen and loved the quality, hence I had asked..ofc it's upto the runner what manu they'd like to use but given GMK delays I would think twice before entering GBs..

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Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Qarmaa on Fri, 30 July 2021, 02:37:06
Any reason to go with this over tripleshot JTK?

JTK iirc have only old cyrillic molds, and this set using new correct legends, so going with JTK will require new set of molds. Also I'm personally not satisfied with the quality of JTK (especially legends).



As you may notice, I took some feedbak and adjusted kitting accordingly. That includes: full R5 bottom row, adding numpad as well as 1800 support (numpad "5" will be only nipple), 2u spacebar will be added later. There is some changes pending for the sublegends, currently waiting to set up the details.

A lot of people asked for icon only mods. I'm personally big fan of icons + text but I can see desire for icons only. They will be available as separate kit (base still stays with icon + text).
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: shima on Fri, 30 July 2021, 14:44:49
too hot  :cool:
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: vheissu on Sat, 31 July 2021, 02:29:37
I'll take 3, thanks.
+2

This is such a classic, instabuy for me.
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: yoot on Sun, 01 August 2021, 22:45:21
 :thumb: i will buy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 02 August 2021, 00:57:15
Please consider r5 1u fn key for Alice layouts
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Leon_TheKing on Mon, 02 August 2021, 02:33:26
Sorry for off topic. Will you consider running this with JTK in future for a tripleshot re-run? Thanks! :thumb: anyway count me in for one set of base for sure whenever the GB starts!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: kazenine on Mon, 02 August 2021, 08:32:49
if alpha kit only, im in!  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: subzero0101 on Mon, 02 August 2021, 16:51:13
awesome set, count me in
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: mayne069 on Mon, 02 August 2021, 18:36:44
The Polo renders makes me moist
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 02 August 2021, 18:43:46
The Polo renders makes me moist
Who makes the Polo?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Qarmaa on Tue, 03 August 2021, 06:19:32
The Polo renders makes me moist
Who makes the Polo?
Marco!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: actress on Wed, 04 August 2021, 18:07:25
Yes please!

What do you think of running WoB Cyrillic DE alongside this for international buyers? Maybe make it alpha-only for those who want that..

Similar to this by HammerWorks https://imgur.com/cQA8LkT (https://imgur.com/cQA8LkT)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Wed, 04 August 2021, 20:14:23
The Polo renders makes me moist
Who makes the Polo?
*evil laugh*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 04 August 2021, 23:49:22
Yes please!

What do you think of running WoB Cyrillic DE alongside this for international buyers? Maybe make it alpha-only for those who want that..

Similar to this by HammerWorks https://imgur.com/cQA8LkT (https://imgur.com/cQA8LkT)

Nice PFP. Shlohmo is GOAT.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: heyman on Thu, 05 August 2021, 00:29:23
Nice! go go go!
Also need Beige Red Cyrillic!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Grindbox on Mon, 09 August 2021, 15:01:03
I know we're only in the IC phase but is there anything resembling a timeline for this kit yet?
 :-*
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Senpai_deezy on Thu, 12 August 2021, 17:12:07
so good
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: 7empest on Thu, 12 August 2021, 18:49:09
gib
Title: Re: GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: hali on Fri, 13 August 2021, 10:03:11
Can we get Prt Sc/Sys Rq and Scroll Lock instead of the current legends?

Adding onto myself here - text only numpad enter please?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: _IanOfEarth on Fri, 13 August 2021, 10:32:21
This is ****ing rad! Love the way the black white and red look together.

Please add two 1.5u Super keys and a second 1u Alt key either to the base kit or an extension kit to add support for macOS 7u and HHKB layouts. Responded on the IC Form too.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: sup3r170va on Mon, 23 August 2021, 10:07:34
Any updates? :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: VACasian on Tue, 24 August 2021, 04:52:27
Are 3U spacebars a possibility?  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: _rubik on Tue, 24 August 2021, 13:37:06
Are 3U spacebars a possibility?  :D

More generally, is a full spacebar kit a possibility?

Edit: OP answered something similar above to keep the set simple.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: LaserCrafter on Sun, 29 August 2021, 18:35:00
rush b
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 29 August 2021, 23:22:48
no more pad print, we have moved past the need for pad print
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Qarmaa on Sun, 29 August 2021, 23:48:52
no more pad print, we have moved past the need for pad print
Puddsy posting.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: windlabs on Mon, 30 August 2021, 02:05:50
i want it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Qarmaa on Thu, 02 September 2021, 17:58:17
Updated base kit
Thanks for feedback everyone, I tried to consider everything and changed kitting accordingly.

Base kit changes:
- as previously stated, bottom row switched to full row 5 as well as added numpad and 1800 support (numpad "5" will be only nipple style) + updated devide and multiply symbols
- added missing 2u spacebar
- removed front print on Print and Pause
More
(https://i.imgur.com/jQ8TLMI.jpg)


Added icon mods kit
There was a lot of requests for icon mods. Icon + text is still my prefered style of mods but I can see desire for icons only.
More
(https://i.imgur.com/QbGctzk.jpg)


Sublegends update
Even though T0mb3ry's set of Cyrillic legends are allowed for anyone to use, we couldnít reach an agreement regarding of changing the legends mentioned previously to make them more accurate.
This set will feature new set of Cyrillic legends that Alexbarb and me put together. They are very similar to latin GMK/Cherry in the sense of typeface. The idea was to make as accurate as possible Cyrillic. In addition to most noticable legend changes (У, Ж, Л), Cyrillic was completely redone from the ground up.
Sublegends on R (К), T (Е), Y (Н), [ (Х), D (В), F (А), H (Р), J (О), Z (Я), C (С), V (M), B (И), N (Т) as well as sublegends on num row will be using original GMK (Cherry) font since glyphs are the same. Rest are custom outlines with original latin legends in mind.

Huge thanks to Alexbarb for make this happened!



GB tentatively starts October 1st and will run for a month at $130 (500 MOQ) on Space Cables. Regional proxies will be announced later.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: sourmk on Thu, 02 September 2021, 18:00:25
Let's go!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 02 September 2021, 18:02:24
Updated base kit
Thanks for feedback everyone, I tried to consider everything and changed kitting accordingly.

Base kit changes:
- as previously stated, bottom row switched to full row 5 as well as added numpad and 1800 support (numpad "5" will be only nipple style) + updated devide and multiply symbols
- added missing 2u spacebar
- removed front print on Print and Pause
More
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/jQ8TLMI.jpg)


Added icon mods kit
There was a lot of requests for icon mods. Icon + text is still my prefered style of mods but I can see desire for icons only.
More
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/QbGctzk.jpg)


Sublegends update
Even though T0mb3ry's set of Cyrillic legends are allowed for anyone to use, we couldnít reach an agreement regarding of changing the legends mentioned previously to make them more accurate.
This set will feature new set of Cyrillic legends that Alexbarb and me put together. They are very similar to latin GMK/Cherry in the sense of typeface. The idea was to make as accurate as possible Cyrillic. In addition to most noticable legend changes (У, Ж, Л), Cyrillic was completely redone from the ground up.
Sublegends on R (К), T (Е), Y (Н), [ (Х), D (В), F (А), H (Р), J (О), Z (Я), C (С), V (M), B (И), N (Т) as well as sublegends on num row will be using original GMK (Cherry) font since glyphs are the same. Rest are custom outlines with original latin legends in mind.

Huge thanks to Alexbarb for make this happened!



GB tentatively starts October 1st and will run for a month at $135 (500 MOQ) on Space Cables. Regional proxies will be announced later.
Excited for the changes and for the set. Big win.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: of_sam on Thu, 02 September 2021, 18:17:50
Let's freaking go.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: sirieous on Thu, 02 September 2021, 18:48:45
So lit

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: haystack on Thu, 02 September 2021, 19:18:35
Meanwhile, at Originative: https://www.originativeco.com/products/originative-cyrillic (https://www.originativeco.com/products/originative-cyrillic)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 02 September 2021, 19:42:18
Love the icon mods. Will grab for general WoB usage

This is like Originative running retro muted 2 months before muted 2. at least there they had a black friday 125$ sale...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 02 September 2021, 19:48:11
Updated base kit
Thanks for feedback everyone, I tried to consider everything and changed kitting accordingly.

Base kit changes:
- as previously stated, bottom row switched to full row 5 as well as added numpad and 1800 support (numpad "5" will be only nipple style) + updated devide and multiply symbols
- added missing 2u spacebar
- removed front print on Print and Pause
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(https://i.imgur.com/jQ8TLMI.jpg)


Added icon mods kit
There was a lot of requests for icon mods. Icon + text is still my prefered style of mods but I can see desire for icons only.
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(https://i.imgur.com/QbGctzk.jpg)

Sublegends update
Even though T0mb3ry's set of Cyrillic legends are allowed for anyone to use, we couldn’t reach an agreement regarding of changing the legends mentioned previously to make them more accurate.
This set will feature new set of Cyrillic legends that Alexbarb and me put together. They are very similar to latin GMK/Cherry in the sense of typeface. The idea was to make as accurate as possible Cyrillic. In addition to most noticable legend changes (У, Ж, Л), Cyrillic was completely redone from the ground up.
Sublegends on R (К), T (Е), Y (Н), [ (Х), D (В), F (А), H (Р), J (О), Z (Я), C (С), V (M), B (И), N (Т) as well as sublegends on num row will be using original GMK (Cherry) font since glyphs are the same. Rest are custom outlines with original latin legends in mind.

Huge thanks to Alexbarb for make this happened!


GB tentatively starts October 1st and will run for a month at $135 (500 MOQ) on Space Cables. Regional proxies will be announced later.

I'm assuming the base kit render you posted uses the aforementioned new Cyrillic sublegends. If that is the case, then good job, because all of them look correct. I am noticing an improvement in consistency over the regular doubleshot legends used in sets such as Yuri.

That being said, one small issue that still remains is that the Х glyph is a tad too narrow. This has been the case in every Cyrillic GMK set so far due to the glyph being repurposed from the Latin X legend. Metrically, К, У and Х are usually the same width in neo-grotesque sans typefaces, but here you can definitely tell that the Х is narrower. Since you now have an opportunity to fix that, I recommend doing just that.

Also, purely typographically speaking, Latin K and Cyrillic К are not exact homoglyphs: the Cyrillic traditionally has a curved rather than a straight arm, and sometimes both the arm and leg are curved. This is noticeable in Verdana, the default typeface used here on Geekhack. However, making the arm/leg straight is a very common stylistic choice in modern sans typefaces, so I'm happy that you chose to go that route as opposed to e.g. following the example of Arial Rounded Bold (cf. the К glyph in IFK Dark Cyrillic (https://i.imgur.com/wKsb0Ve.png)).

I would like to ask you to consider adding R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn to the base kit for 65%/75% support. These keys are popular choices on 65% keyboards, both enthusiast (especially recent ones with corner blockers), as well as those intended for the mass market (e.g. Drop Alt, Keychron K6, RK68, Durgod, Akko etc.). With 65% being as popular a layout as it is, I think these keys would be worth including. If I didn't already have them from Drop WoB, I know I would like to get them from this set.

By the way, I think the fact that you included System/Sys keys and icon mods in CR/WS1 is really cool. Especially cause Emir's WoB icon extension kit has been so hard to track down lately. Very cool — I am definitely tempted to throw my money your way.


Edit: Блин я только что заметил, что раннер русский. Молодец)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: Qarmaa on Thu, 02 September 2021, 20:04:19
That being said, one small issue that still remains is that the Х glyph is a tad too narrow. This has been the case in every Cyrillic GMK set so far due to the glyph being repurposed from the Latin X legend. Metrically, К, У and Х are usually the same width in neo-grotesque sans typefaces, but here you can definitely tell that the Х is narrower. Since you now have an opportunity to fix that, I recommend doing just that.

Also, purely typographically speaking, Latin K and Cyrillic К are not exact homoglyphs: the Cyrillic letter usually has a curved rather than a straight arm, and sometimes both the arm and leg are curved. This is noticeable in Verdana, the default typeface used here on Geekhack. However, making the arm/leg straight is a very common stylistic choice in modern sans typefaces, so I'm happy that you chose to go with that as opposed to e.g. following the example of Arial Rounded Bold (cf. the К glyph in IFK Dark Cyrillic (https://i.imgur.com/wKsb0Ve.png)).
I'm aware of that but we decided to left those legends as it is, and there is reasons for it. X also might look a bit narrower in renders compare to real GMK one because we don't have original Cherry legends on hands.

The kitting is final, sorry.

Edit: Блин я только что заметил, что раннер русский. Молодец)
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 02 September 2021, 20:12:30
I'm aware of that but we decided to left those legends as it is, and there is reasons for it.

The kitting is final, sorry.

Alright, no worries! I don't mind it in Yuri, so I'd probably notice it even less here. Still, I'd be interested in knowing your reasons, if you don't mind sharing for posterity's sake.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic
Post by: alexbarb on Fri, 03 September 2021, 01:45:37

I'm assuming the base kit render you posted uses the aforementioned new Cyrillic sublegends. If that is the case, then good job, because all of them look correct. I am noticing an improvement in consistency over the regular doubleshot legends used in sets such as Yuri.

That being said, one small issue that still remains is that the Х glyph is a tad too narrow. This has been the case in every Cyrillic GMK set so far due to the glyph being repurposed from the Latin X legend. Metrically, К, У and Х are usually the same width in neo-grotesque sans typefaces, but here you can definitely tell that the Х is narrower. Since you now have an opportunity to fix that, I recommend doing just that.

Also, purely typographically speaking, Latin K and Cyrillic К are not exact homoglyphs: the Cyrillic traditionally has a curved rather than a straight arm, and sometimes both the arm and leg are curved. This is noticeable in Verdana, the default typeface used here on Geekhack. However, making the arm/leg straight is a very common stylistic choice in modern sans typefaces, so I'm happy that you chose to go that route as opposed to e.g. following the example of Arial Rounded Bold (cf. the К glyph in IFK Dark Cyrillic (https://i.imgur.com/wKsb0Ve.png)).

I would like to ask you to consider adding R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn to the base kit for 65%/75% support. These keys are popular choices on 65% keyboards, both enthusiast (especially recent ones with corner blockers), as well as those intended for the mass market (e.g. Drop Alt, Keychron K6, RK68, Durgod, Akko etc.). With 65% being as popular a layout as it is, I think these keys would be worth including. If I didn't already have them from Drop WoB, I know I would like to get them from this set.

By the way, I think the fact that you included System/Sys keys and icon mods in CR/WS1 is really cool. Especially cause Emir's WoB icon extension kit has been so hard to track down lately. Very cool ó I am definitely tempted to throw my money your way.

Edit: Блин я только что заметил, что раннер русский. Молодец)

Thank you for the feedback. I can tell you know what you talking about but would like to point on some details.


You can clearly see that X in Latin/Cherry are narrow. In terms of geometry, X (Cyrillic) and X (Latin) should be the the same in all of the fonts.

Verdana and Arial not the best examples of Cyrillic. Arm or leg (or both) can be curved or straight. It's acceptable both ways. In modern sans serif fontfaces they are straight and repeats the Latin. In this case it's more clean solution rather.

In image you linked Я can have a curved leg, it's acceptable to use it with straight leg R. But that's the matter for a separate talk.

We were trying to mimic Cherry font, that's why Я and R have the same shape, same goes for К and Ж (that made out of K). If we go back to IFK image, there is another thing to note: in Cyrillic Б, Ъ, Ь, Ы are made out of Latin B. Which is wrong. Bottom semicircle should be larger. Instead, it's better to make those letters out of inverted P.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: actress on Fri, 03 September 2021, 03:23:15
I see we have a date for the GB now, nice.
Do we know the vendors yet?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: Qarmaa on Fri, 03 September 2021, 03:34:35
Do we know the vendors yet?
I'll announce them once we work out all of the details. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: vsrnth on Fri, 03 September 2021, 07:28:00
please choose Rectangles.store as a vendor for India

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: superdoedoe on Fri, 03 September 2021, 09:32:58
Any chance for just alphas

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Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: StepanStulov on Fri, 03 September 2021, 10:59:05
Finally somebody carrying about Russian lettering instead of replicating that abomination of a font that's found even on the expensive GMK sets. Really happy to see Д, Ц and Щ aligned properly. Keep up good work! Waiting for the group buy. Салют
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: alexbarb on Fri, 03 September 2021, 11:30:39
Finally somebody carrying about Russian lettering instead of replicating that abomination of a font that's found even on the expensive GMK sets. Really happy to see Д, Ц and Щ aligned properly. Keep up good work! Waiting for the group buy. Салют

Thanks for noticing. You are talking about the baseline of the font. And this is important. But we've rethought a lot more
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: sup3r170va on Sun, 05 September 2021, 01:55:04
Just want to confirm this is running in Oct. originative just launched a rerun of their cryllic red, I do prefer this due to the R5 and updated legends (and presumably better pricing)
:)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: Gnome on Sat, 11 September 2021, 08:20:51
Looks good, I really like the kitting.
Curious to see what the prices are for the kits. If it's good, or even just okay, ill be down for both base and icon mods.
Good luck with the group buy  :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: hottrout on Sun, 12 September 2021, 03:50:37
Will UK ISO or NordeUK set be added?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: actress on Sun, 12 September 2021, 10:11:21
Will UK ISO or NordeUK set be added?

Look like kitting is done, but I would have loved NordeUK kit as well.
Maybe even something like a RU-DE kit as I proposed but OP ignored :(
Title: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: _rubik on Sun, 12 September 2021, 11:17:04
Looks good, I really like the kitting.
Curious to see what the prices are for the kits. If it's good, or even just okay, ill be down for both base and icon mods.
Good luck with the group buy  :thumb:
I donít think there are any custom colors and very few new molds. I donít know UV sub legend pricing and it is a chonky base kit, so Iíd imagine the set would retail somewhere between 120 and 140.

Edit: knowing GMK these days, I wouldnít be surprise if they tack on hidden fees though.

Edit x2:

GB starts October 1st with base price of $130 (NA)

Nailed it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: Qarmaa on Thu, 16 September 2021, 09:51:33
GB starts October 1st with base price of $130 (NA)

Vendors
NA: Space Cables
SA: Fancy Customs
CA: Ashkeebs
EU: Mykeyboard
UK: ProtoTypist
SEA: iLumKB
AU: Dailyclack
CN: Zfrontier
KR: Swagkeys
JP: Basekeys


Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: sup3r170va on Thu, 16 September 2021, 12:58:52
GB starts October 1st with base price of $130 (NA)

Vendors
US: Space Cables
CA: Ashkeebs
EU: Mykeyboard
UK: ProtoTypist
SEA: iLumKB
AU: Dailyckack
CN: Zfrontier
KR: Swagkeys
JP: Basekeys


Sweet price. Iím in!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: konstantin on Thu, 16 September 2021, 15:52:13
Looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: Cujo26 on Thu, 16 September 2021, 16:25:19
I might just join this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: slg1993 on Thu, 16 September 2021, 22:52:40
did originative just try to f you guys over by leaping ahead of the queue (with a $180 base kit no less)?

if so, for shame
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: _rubik on Thu, 16 September 2021, 23:01:09
did originative just try to f you guys over by leaping ahead of the queue (with a $180 base kit no less)?

if so, for shame

Eta for Oco Cyrillic is still Oct 2022, so their decision to run another round for $50 more doesn't make much sense
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: Qarmaa on Fri, 17 September 2021, 06:44:40
One more thing I wanted to share about the sublegends.

Once GB is over and preparations done on GMK side, this set of legends will be open for everyone to use in their projects. That also includes: modifying particular legends, taking them apart, alternating (for this, you need souce files which I can provide upon request), use separate legends in combination with the new legends set. I would like to open-source the file completely, but since this legends set uses glyphs from Cherry font that GMK put together on their side, it will only contain legends that made from the ground up (around 20), so there is no point for that unless you want to modify something (for which you can request file from me).

If anybody need renders with new sublegends, please reach out Marco (Marco#8888 on Discord, https://marcofriedrichs.com/).



Thanks again everyone for support! Looking forward for this to happen.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: azzipa on Fri, 17 September 2021, 12:34:30
very cool, @qarmaa
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: Grindbox on Mon, 20 September 2021, 13:20:03
FYI - It looks like the images for the key set options are broken!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: Qarmaa on Mon, 20 September 2021, 13:54:52
FYI - It looks like the images for the key set options are broken!
Fixed now.

On the side note, added Fancy Customs as South America vendor.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK WoB Red Cyrillic - GB October 1st
Post by: jagger27 on Mon, 20 September 2021, 14:50:26
At this point it's insulting that there hasn't been a single WOB kit with 1.5U Supers. Whyyyyy