[IC] GMK Regal | Group Buy Live

[JonoColwell]

Group Buy Thread Here



GMK Regal



Interest Check Form



Concept:

I really liked Phantom, however I wasn't absolutely sold on the yellow, I felt like it just prevented me from matching it with whatever I wanted and it wasn't as clean as I liked, in addition the set is kind of old and the kitting's not quite there in my opinion, thus goes my epic journey to get a set that's a more refined Phantom and also slap in some relegendables

GROUP BUY JULY 1



Colours:
Pantone 2695 Purple
RAL9016 Traffic White

Note, I have seen RAL sample for 9016 and I have the swatch for Pantone 2695 on hand, however my camera/photography skills are bad, I've ordered a RAL sample as well as the plastic pantone chips for 2695 and I'll get some photographs of those when they arrive and do colour matching against those.


Kits:

Base Kit:



Novelties Kit:


Extension Kit:



Relegendables Kit:


HIBI cap







Filigree Deskmat
For some reason imgur won't upload this as a .png so it has to be atttached here, I don't know why but it is what it is.


Lion Deskmat




Update 05-04-2022: I've removed the novelties from the base and split them out into their own kit, taking a look at the GMK quotes it's going to add some cost for getting novelties as well as the base kit but most people don't seem to want the novelties so it is what it is.

Update 07-04-2022: Added 1.25 u R3 tab and 1.5u R3 enter for the 40s people.



Vendors:
OCE/Australia: Daily Clack
Europe: MyKeyboard EU
SEA: iLumkb
NA: Mechs & Co
CA: DeskHero
CN: Zfrontier
KR: GEONWORKS





Collaborations:
LP Cables
Sinpra Caps
Kook Caps
Arunika Keycaps
Primecaps

Additional Renders:
More may be to come


Bean by Kingk22




Constellation by AEBoards




Endash by FinderWorks




Praxis by Ivery Boards




Praxis by Ivery Boards




Wombat by Impulse Boards




Wombat by Impulse Boards



Note, for wombat, I've got the physical boards being finished at a plater, so expect an interest check on that one soon.

UPDATE: 25-05-2022

• Updated novelty renders to use accepted art from GMK
• Added collaborations
• Added Deskmats
• Updated all kits to latest version
• There is a hibi cap just waiting on renders, that has also been confirmed for manufacturability

Update 31-05-2022

• Added hibi cap renders
• GB date announced

Update 27-06-2022
Addes Geon as Korean vendor
Updated some older renders

[L-Ron]

Love the colourway and the chunky base kit. GLWIC!

[clickpig]

Consider my interest checked.

Thoughts on moving the novs to a child kit to cut down potential base price?

[LittleAad]

Incoming 200 dollar base kit.

Not a fan of your kitting, but I can see why some may appreciate it.

Why aren’t you using a stock color for the white??

[JonoColwell]

Consider my interest checked.

Thoughts on moving the novs to a child kit to cut down potential base price?

I thought about it, then I thought, I don't really want to do that.

Incoming 200 dollar base kit.

Not a fan of your kitting, but I can see why some may appreciate it.

Why aren’t you using a stock color for the white??

I looked at the stock whites and they weren't quite what I wanted.

[Dingo..]

Interested. Very nice colour choice

[rainkeebs]

your kitting is really bad this is not going to make moq

[Silk]

your kitting is really bad this is not going to make moq

have you met this man

[JonoColwell]

your kitting is really bad this is not going to make moq

If it's not for you it's not for you. It should have compat for 40% keyboards in there anyway so not sure what you mean when you say kitting is bad

[Ensaum]

Some thoughts on kitting so no one is really giving suggestions:

• Move novelties to a child kit!
• You don't need both icon and 'super' 1u and 1.25u win keys. Pick one.
• Move 1.5u super and and 1.75u backspace to an extension kit.
• Split macro and space bar kits into separate child kits instead of 1 giant extension kit.
• Remove mini bars from base kit and create a mini bar child kit in either white or purple. 1u mini bars need to go here to.
• Make standalone white accent bar kit sans 1u bars.
• (Personal preference) Just put centered 6u space bar in the base kit.
• Splitting numpad may help with pricing.

[JonoColwell]

Some thoughts on kitting so no one is really giving suggestions:

• Move novelties to a child kit!
• You don't need both icon and 'super' 1u and 1.25u win keys. Pick one.
• Move 1.5u super and and 1.75u backspace to an extension kit.
• Split macro and space bar kits into separate child kits instead of 1 giant extension kit.
• Remove mini bars from base kit and create a mini bar child kit in either white or purple. 1u mini bars need to go here to.
• Make standalone white accent bar kit sans 1u bars.
• (Personal preference) Just put centered 6u space bar in the base kit.
• Splitting numpad may help with pricing.

So essentially you're proposing
Base Kit
Purple spacebar kit
White spacebar kit
Small spacebar kit
Novelties Kit
Macro Kit
Numpad Kit
Relegendables kit?

[Ensaum]

Some thoughts on kitting so no one is really giving suggestions:

• Move novelties to a child kit!
• You don't need both icon and 'super' 1u and 1.25u win keys. Pick one.
• Move 1.5u super and and 1.75u backspace to an extension kit.
• Split macro and space bar kits into separate child kits instead of 1 giant extension kit.
• Remove mini bars from base kit and create a mini bar child kit in either white or purple. 1u mini bars need to go here to.
• Make standalone white accent bar kit sans 1u bars.
• (Personal preference) Just put centered 6u space bar in the base kit.
• Splitting numpad may help with pricing.

So essentially you're proposing
Base Kit
Purple spacebar kit
White spacebar kit
Small spacebar kit
Novelties Kit
Macro Kit
Numpad Kit
Relegendables kit?

On second thought, it'd prob be better to do something along the lines of 6.25u and 7u accent bars, purple 6us, and purple mini bars in one space bar kit. So:

Base
Novelties
Space Bars
Macro
Extension
Relegendables

Numpad could go either way tbh. I think people usually remove it to get base kit cost down for moq reasons

[JonoColwell]

Some thoughts on kitting so no one is really giving suggestions:

• Move novelties to a child kit!
• You don't need both icon and 'super' 1u and 1.25u win keys. Pick one.
• Move 1.5u super and and 1.75u backspace to an extension kit.
• Split macro and space bar kits into separate child kits instead of 1 giant extension kit.
• Remove mini bars from base kit and create a mini bar child kit in either white or purple. 1u mini bars need to go here to.
• Make standalone white accent bar kit sans 1u bars.
• (Personal preference) Just put centered 6u space bar in the base kit.
• Splitting numpad may help with pricing.

So essentially you're proposing
Base Kit
Purple spacebar kit
White spacebar kit
Small spacebar kit
Novelties Kit
Macro Kit
Numpad Kit
Relegendables kit?

On second thought, it'd prob be better to do something along the lines of 6.25u and 7u accent bars, purple 6us, and purple mini bars in one space bar kit. So:

Base
Novelties
Space Bars
Macro
Extension
Relegendables

Numpad could go either way tbh. I think people usually remove it to get base kit cost down for moq reasons

Okay so I've considered this carefully, and I think I'm going to go with what I have at the moment for the following reasons

1. I like the idea that the base kit you buy it and it's compatible with pretty much everything right off the bat
2. I always use a numpad so I wouldn't want to split the numpad off, and it never actually saves any money
3. I've committed to buying out MOQ myself anyway so I really don't mind

[Ensaum]

Really? You're prepared to tie up potentially 10s of thousands for over a year to buy out moq? I don't really believe this, but good luck.

If you change your mind, there's plenty of other successful sets out there with great kitting you can take a look at.

[VXQN]

I kinda love the enormous base kit, but I do think that the novelties should be separate, or massively cut down.

Also, if you're putting 2x3U bars in base, I'd say it's probably worth putting a single 1U bar in there too.

Initially I thought going for a custom white was probably not the best idea, but having looked at it I see that there isn't really a similar white in GMKs stock colours. To me it looks like a slightly dimmer WS1, but not edging into cream like CP?

[OJtheTiny]

that basekit is gonna need a lot of help to make anywhere near MOQ holy ****, even if you price that at 1k it's gonna be closer to $200 per base kit which is insanity for current gmk wait times

[P103]

Okay so I've considered this carefully, and I think I'm going to go with what I have at the moment for the following reasons

1. I like the idea that the base kit you buy it and it's compatible with pretty much everything right off the bat
2. I always use a numpad so I wouldn't want to split the numpad off, and it never actually saves any money
3. I've committed to buying out MOQ myself anyway so I really don't mind

Sticking with full size, Alice, uk ISO and some 40s support is good enough for most people's need for compatibility. Any potential saving for having a base kit this large is lost when you're forced to set a very low moq.

[neon_tom]

I’m interested but I’ll echo the opinion that your base kit needs to be split. At the very least split out the novelties.

[Bub]

you say you'll commit to buyout, but how do people (customers and vendors) know that will actually happen? do you really wanna drop 50k into this project to buyout at 250 moq if this set sells like 10?

lots of yellow flags in this IC... it doesn't seem like you are keen on listening to the feedback being offered.  GL tho

[TyPo.mk]

I love forcing 30 novelties into base and you can’t even use them in a 65column/macro column

[nqbshas]

Looking forward to see how much the price for that base kit.

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[Bub]

OK bro i just keeping finding more warning signs here....

this is literally just a slightly modified version of your last IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115066.msg3089694#msg3089694

is it april 1st in Australia already?

[stidal]

babe wake up, deep navy r2 with absurd kitting just dropped

[udller]

i like the colours, but i do agree the kitting isn't exactly the best.

i personally think the novelties should be moved to a separate kit. with probably some of them being removed. i don't think someone is likely to use all the r1 keys on their board at once. and all the r4 keys only like 4 can be used at once. id suggest keeping the crown and the lion tiger.

moving to the base kit. you have 2x r4 Fn keys. i don't think this is needed. also the amount of keys to use for windows or supers is kinda extreme you could cut it back a bit. i don't know what the extra r2 backspace key is for as it doesn't have a size on it.

but most importantly your missing the hang bag caps lock and stepped handbag capslock. which  is the best caps lock by far.
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[Rumblethumps]

The potential price of that base kit plus GMK's current lead times put me off from this entirely.  I'm willing to eat my words if it turns out to be reasonable though.

And you're dead set on buying out MOQ before getting any pricing info? There's too many risks here atm.

[Cylent]

everyone else: GMK is increasing their prices, let's try to cut costs to keep base kit at 130$
this guy: hold my beer.

(seriously though I echo everything that has already been said: fix the base kit's size and cost or this set is dead in the water).

[ggggggg]

your kitting is really bad this is not going to make moq

If it's not for you it's not for you. It should have compat for 40% keyboards in there anyway so not sure what you mean when you say kitting is bad

You're a third of the way to basic 40s support. Ok technically you're only missing an r3 1.25u tab, but I strongly suggest adding at least a dozen or two 40s-specific keys.

[rainkeebs]

your kitting is really bad this is not going to make moq

If it's not for you it's not for you. It should have compat for 40% keyboards in there anyway so not sure what you mean when you say kitting is bad

Base kit is ginormous, will be prohibitively priced. The 40s support you mentioned is nonexistent. You have the backspace key for one specific size of 40% and *nothing* else. Basic 40s support (called 3 key) is r2 1.75u (Backspace), r3 1.25u (Tab), r3 1.5u (Enter). That’s bare minimum to make them shut up. I don’t have any opinions on the set itself, that’s why I didn’t say any. The kitting is just not going to work and this will be another failed GMK GB. It needs a lot more work put into optimizing the kits to be realistic for current pricing:wait times.


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[norb]

"yo dawg i heard you like keyboards so i designed a deskmat-sized keyboard so you can put your keyboard on your keyboard while you keyboard."
xzibit, probably.

[Ensaum]

i like the colours, but i do agree the kitting isn't exactly the best.

i personally think the novelties should be moved to a separate kit. with probably some of them being removed. i don't think someone is likely to use all the r1 keys on their board at once. and all the r4 keys only like 4 can be used at once. id suggest keeping the crown and the lion tiger.

moving to the base kit. you have 2x r4 Fn keys. i don't think this is needed. also the amount of keys to use for windows or supers is kinda extreme you could cut it back a bit. i don't know what the extra r2 backspace key is for as it doesn't have a size on it.

but most importantly your missing the hang bag caps lock and stepped handbag capslock. which  is the best caps lock by far.
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Oh, I completely missed the duplicate fn. Yeah this can be removed too.

What's your reasoning behind removing stepped caps from base, but leaving stepped control? I would leave stepped caps and maybe move stepped control to extension along with more complete 40s support.

[JohnYYZ]

$200 USD Base Kit? Good luck 

Also, the base kit image is being displayed as 16:9 ratio when not zoomed in.

[XiXora]

I would love a massive base kit like this as I end up always buying base+extension kit anyway but I feel you would like to sell some of these as you'll see people worry about kits at high prices.

Love seeing 1.5 Supers (need 2 1u alts though) and stepped control etc.
May need to organise space bars a little as may need 1.25u and 1u with the Alice bars for split space boards.

You may want to check Zambumon's kitting with his latest kits with base + macro-extension.

[Neely_12]

babe wake up, deep navy r2 with absurd kitting just dropped

Uh, you make want to get your eyes checked out. Red/green colorblindness is very common.

[JonoColwell]

The potential price of that base kit plus GMK's current lead times put me off from this entirely.  I'm willing to eat my words if it turns out to be reasonable though.

And you're dead set on buying out MOQ before getting any pricing info? There's too many risks here atm.

Oh I already have the quote and it's within budget.

[less_blank]

This IC seems pretty pointless if you don't care if people are actually interested in purchasing and are dead set on running it exactly as is without listening to community feedback. A lot of misplaced hubris here, I'm sure this will end well. GLWIC.

[TyPo.mk]

The potential price of that base kit plus GMK's current lead times put me off from this entirely.  I'm willing to eat my words if it turns out to be reasonable though.

And you're dead set on buying out MOQ before getting any pricing info? There's too many risks here atm.

Oh I already have the quote and it's within budget.

If you already have quotes what do you plan on pricing this base kit at?

[JonoColwell]

OK bro i just keeping finding more warning signs here....

this is literally just a slightly modified version of your last IC: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115066.msg3089694#msg3089694

is it april 1st in Australia already?

Brother I am not going to come up with a unique layout etc for every interest check, I'm happy with the layout of the post and almost 100% with the kitting, currently chatting to a couple of people about some potential updates.

i like the colours, but i do agree the kitting isn't exactly the best.

i personally think the novelties should be moved to a separate kit. with probably some of them being removed. i don't think someone is likely to use all the r1 keys on their board at once. and all the r4 keys only like 4 can be used at once. id suggest keeping the crown and the lion tiger.

moving to the base kit. you have 2x r4 Fn keys. i don't think this is needed. also the amount of keys to use for windows or supers is kinda extreme you could cut it back a bit. i don't know what the extra r2 backspace key is for as it doesn't have a size on it.

but most importantly your missing the hang bag caps lock and stepped handbag capslock. which  is the best caps lock by far.
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I like two R4 fn keys

Handbag caps I dislike

Windows/supers I was only going to have windows keys but then the linux people I know complained so it has both now.

The second backspace is there for minivan support and good catch I didn't notice I forgot to label it 1.75u

your kitting is really bad this is not going to make moq

If it's not for you it's not for you. It should have compat for 40% keyboards in there anyway so not sure what you mean when you say kitting is bad

Base kit is ginormous, will be prohibitively priced. The 40s support you mentioned is nonexistent. You have the backspace key for one specific size of 40% and *nothing* else. Basic 40s support (called 3 key) is r2 1.75u (Backspace), r3 1.25u (Tab), r3 1.5u (Enter). That’s bare minimum to make them shut up. I don’t have any opinions on the set itself, that’s why I didn’t say any. The kitting is just not going to work and this will be another failed GMK GB. It needs a lot more work put into optimizing the kits to be realistic for current pricing:wait times.


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your kitting is really bad this is not going to make moq

If it's not for you it's not for you. It should have compat for 40% keyboards in there anyway so not sure what you mean when you say kitting is bad

You're a third of the way to basic 40s support. Ok technically you're only missing an r3 1.25u tab, but I strongly suggest adding at least a dozen or two 40s-specific keys.

Thanks for the info on 40%, I genuinely didn't know because I've never used one haha.

The potential price of that base kit plus GMK's current lead times put me off from this entirely.  I'm willing to eat my words if it turns out to be reasonable though.

And you're dead set on buying out MOQ before getting any pricing info? There's too many risks here atm.

Oh I already have the quote and it's within budget.

If you already have quotes what do you plan on pricing this base kit at?

Currently waiting on lead vendor to provide an update on that, I can buy it out at wholesale though but I'm not allowed to share that information, not cheap though.

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

One less base kit to buy out if you use pantone 2695, I’d be in for one.

[Cylent]

The potential price of that base kit plus GMK's current lead times put me off from this entirely.  I'm willing to eat my words if it turns out to be reasonable though.

And you're dead set on buying out MOQ before getting any pricing info? There's too many risks here atm.

Oh I already have the quote and it's within budget.

If you already have quotes what do you plan on pricing this base kit at?

Currently waiting on lead vendor to provide an update on that, I can buy it out at wholesale though but I'm not allowed to share that information, not cheap though.

You have the quote, you know it's "within budget," but you need to wait on your lead vendor to provide an update on the pricing? You can't even ballpark it? If you can buy it out wholesale, then why are you making an IC? Is your plan to buy out this set yourself, or to run a successful GB and make MOQ naturally? My vision has turned red due to the blinding light of so many red flags, and for that reason I'm out.

[datfroyodoe]

if you're gonna force novelties in the base kit, i think i would rather have the option for 1u R4 novelties than the windows icon keys. the window keys just look too off-theme(?), it is just not very "regal"

[GMK83]

I’m in!  If only this had R5 tho…

[Baka Bot]

I really dig the colors. I also agree with the criticisms about the base kit mentioned above. glwic

[Chris Mechs and Co]

Very nice! Love the colors. I do agree though, consolidate some of the child kits at the least. MOQ will be 100 kits minimum on each of those!

[autocast]

Need some regal stained glass windows keys

[Cujo96]

I'm actually going to laugh when this madlad buys out moq and everyone who doubted him is left in shock and awe.

[MIGHTY CHICKEN]

American sized base

[FatefulStranger]

What do you mean "within budget"? I'm assuming your budget? If you really wanted to make a set that's only for you, sure go ahead. But to call this an IC and disregard a lot of people's main concerns is not an IC at all but just a flex that you have a lot of money.

Just to echo everyone else, the least you can do is separate out the novelties. Not everyone likes novelties or will even use them, and personally this set's novelties are meh to me. I mean if you're going to be hitting MOQ by yourself, do you personally need that many novelties to yourself?

[kiwoli]

Yea... so this isn't an IC, just buy out MOQ and then sell in stock when GMK delivers to you, kthxbye.

[Neely_12]

Yea... so this isn't an IC, just buy out MOQ and then sell in stock when GMK delivers to you, kthxbye.

This^ The only reason people do groupbuys is to be able to fund the project, which you can apparently. It would also sell a lot more if it was in stock, especially if it rivals the “extras” pricing of other vendors. This all just rubs me the wrong way.  You added supers bc Linux people you know complained, yet dozens of people are asking to have a separate novelties kit and crickets.

[s__pete]

Personally I'd move the novs to a separate kit because I hate novelty AND fun, other than that this set looks very good. Maybe remove what 40 support there is because I also hate 40% users with a burning passion.

[aeryxz]

Finally a base set that truly is based as. Text and icons, chefs kiss. Don't need to buy various random kits to make a "base" kit, chefs kiss. Mega support so you don't have to find random child kit after market when you've forgotten, chefs kiss.

[Cujo96]

Everyone ripping on this but forgetting GMK Wild and DCS Deadbeats lmao

[Puddsy]

base kit is unhinged but just split the novs out and i think it's fine

people sent me this thread and acted like you had committed a war crime or something

[sirieous]

Will be interested to see price on this when it goes live eventually. Hopefully not too bad cause I am keen to get a set.

[succulentdan]

Personally I'd move the novs to a separate kit because I hate novelty AND fun, other than that this set looks very good. Maybe remove what 40 support there is because I also hate 40% users with a burning passion.

You’re just an absolute ray of sunshine and daises, aren’t you?

[gotgoodiez]

I think if you fixed your kitting a bit this would be a great set. IMO pair down the novelties (the buck doesn't really seem "regal" like the other ones) or just move it to its own kit; Move your windows keys and supers to the extension kit and last one is you might not need all the accent spacebars as it will probably make that extensions kit quite a bit. On a different note maybe use a stock white if you can find it but beyond that glwic!

[soundstage]

So your plan is to buy out at wholesale from lead vendor. Will that translate into you selling it to end users directly at a slightly higher price from wholesale price?

[konstantin]

That's one huge base kit.

I suggest removing the Windows keys and moving the novelties to a separate kit (though I'd maybe keep one or two of them in the base kit just for flavor).

[JonoColwell]

Update Time:

I've got the quotes back for the kit with the novelties split out, most people seem to not want the novelties in base and someone pointed out that I would have to store a ****load of base kits to have all the novelties that I want, on that basis I've split out the base and novs.

[傻子]

will it has a CN vendor？
hope itwill be Zfrontier or KBDfans

[rainkeebs]

nice kitting update. you still forgot the rest of the 40s keys tho. the literal 2 that are needed to support *most* 40s. they dont even have an incorrect legend alternative. dunno what the thinking was there, unless there wasnt any...

[less_blank]

Why no 1u R4 novelties?

[JonoColwell]

nice kitting update. you still forgot the rest of the 40s keys tho. the literal 2 that are needed to support *most* 40s. they dont even have an incorrect legend alternative. dunno what the thinking was there, unless there wasnt any...

[rainkeebs]

nice kitting update. you still forgot the rest of the 40s keys tho. the literal 2 that are needed to support *most* 40s. they dont even have an incorrect legend alternative. dunno what the thinking was there, unless there wasnt any...

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ok. im not sure what you're saying by that

[iamtragic]

love ya work jono, im in.

[JonoColwell]

nice kitting update. you still forgot the rest of the 40s keys tho. the literal 2 that are needed to support *most* 40s. they dont even have an incorrect legend alternative. dunno what the thinking was there, unless there wasnt any...

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ok. im not sure what you're saying by that

I mean, so far 100% of the (single) 40% people that I've actually spoken to about this have been adamant of two things

• The set must support 40%
• They are not buying it

Are you actually interested in buying it?

[rainkeebs]

nice kitting update. you still forgot the rest of the 40s keys tho. the literal 2 that are needed to support *most* 40s. they dont even have an incorrect legend alternative. dunno what the thinking was there, unless there wasnt any...

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ok. im not sure what you're saying by that

I mean, so far 100% of the (single) 40% people that I've actually spoken to about this have been adamant of two things

• The set must support 40%
• They are not buying it

Are you actually interested in buying it?

I am not. I don't care if you have 40s support, but if you're going to "have" it you should at least actually have it. Either have all 3 keys or none I don't care. But it's a waste of money for everyone if you have just the one 1.75u backspace key.

[JonoColwell]

nice kitting update. you still forgot the rest of the 40s keys tho. the literal 2 that are needed to support *most* 40s. they dont even have an incorrect legend alternative. dunno what the thinking was there, unless there wasnt any...

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ok. im not sure what you're saying by that

I mean, so far 100% of the (single) 40% people that I've actually spoken to about this have been adamant of two things

• The set must support 40%
• They are not buying it

Are you actually interested in buying it?

I am not. I don't care if you have 40s support, but if you're going to "have" it you should at least actually have it. Either have all 3 keys or none I don't care. But it's a waste of money for everyone if you have just the one 1.75u backspace key.

Minivan

[rainkeebs]

nice kitting update. you still forgot the rest of the 40s keys tho. the literal 2 that are needed to support *most* 40s. they dont even have an incorrect legend alternative. dunno what the thinking was there, unless there wasnt any...

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ok. im not sure what you're saying by that

I mean, so far 100% of the (single) 40% people that I've actually spoken to about this have been adamant of two things

• The set must support 40%
• They are not buying it

Are you actually interested in buying it?

I am not. I don't care if you have 40s support, but if you're going to "have" it you should at least actually have it. Either have all 3 keys or none I don't care. But it's a waste of money for everyone if you have just the one 1.75u backspace key.

Minivan

For the last time, minivan needs the 1.75u backspace key, yes. BUT it ALSO needs the SAME 1.25u r3 tab that every other staggered 40% uses, as well as a r3 1.5u enter key. You do not have minivan support, you have the funny backspace key. That is not 40s support, that is not minivan support, it is literally wasting every single buyers money. Read what I am saying and listen to it. I am trying to help you man. You said it yourself that you don't even know what the **** 40s are, I DO. And I am telling you the solution to a problem. Fix the problem, or remove the problem, don't keep defending it.

[JonoColwell]

For the last time, minivan needs the 1.75u backspace key, yes. BUT it ALSO needs the SAME 1.25u r3 tab that every other staggered 40% uses, as well as a r3 1.5u enter key. You do not have minivan support, you have the funny backspace key. That is not 40s support, that is not minivan support, it is literally wasting every single buyers money. Read what I am saying and listen to it. I am trying to help you man. You said it yourself that you don't even know what the **** 40s are, I DO. And I am telling you the solution to a problem. Fix the problem, or remove the problem, don't keep defending it.

Oh right, now I get it, how does this look then?

[rainkeebs]

For the last time, minivan needs the 1.75u backspace key, yes. BUT it ALSO needs the SAME 1.25u r3 tab that every other staggered 40% uses, as well as a r3 1.5u enter key. You do not have minivan support, you have the funny backspace key. That is not 40s support, that is not minivan support, it is literally wasting every single buyers money. Read what I am saying and listen to it. I am trying to help you man. You said it yourself that you don't even know what the **** 40s are, I DO. And I am telling you the solution to a problem. Fix the problem, or remove the problem, don't keep defending it.

Oh right, now I get it, how does this look then?

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that is proper 3 key support. good job!

[conternecticus]

Novelties separate kit we are all happy now
Personally I like the idea of a huge base kit. GLWIC!

[Botty212]

no R2 and R3 novelties but 100 novelties for R1 and R4.....
cant even use half the novelties even if you are using a tkl

[JonoColwell]

What would you even use r2 and r3 novelties for?

[VXQN]

What would you even use r2 and r3 novelties for?

Macro/65% nav column.

[x-starburst-x]

love this set

[zzkhan1996]

I think that you should separate the spaces and macro into 2 kits

[XiXora]

Kit is almost fine but please please one more r4 1u alt for HHKB/Mac 7u, everything else is there for it.

Of my 5 40s, not one is minivan/"basic 40s" (I'm mostly 12u). Slightly amusing but I'm not asking for it.

Looking forward to seeing this on your wombat

[Getsome!!!]

As much as i absolutely hate the color the yellow (seriously, worst color ever) and the Lakers, I think i still prefer phantom. The yellow came off as more of a gold, probably just my preconceived notions of what "regal" colors are.

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

As much as i absolutely hate the color the yellow (seriously, worst color ever) and the Lakers, I think i still prefer phantom. The yellow came off as more of a gold, probably just my preconceived notions of what "regal" colors are.

Phantom the render or phantom the set? That’s closer to butter beige than it is to yellow or gold.

[Getsome!!!]

As much as i absolutely hate the color the yellow (seriously, worst color ever) and the Lakers, I think i still prefer phantom. The yellow came off as more of a gold, probably just my preconceived notions of what "regal" colors are.

Phantom the render or phantom the set? That’s closer to butter beige than it is to yellow or gold.

 Phantom the keycap set. What's "phantom the render"?
Just happened to stumble upon this looking at desk mats, might work well for people interested in this set. https://www.redbubble.com/i/mouse-pad/Purple-Fleur-de-lis-by-muskitt/41192870.GAP22

[superdoedoe]

please remove 40%'s

[genevatypes]

idc what other ppl are saying but this base kit is sexy. i love you

[JonoColwell]

please remove 40%'s

I'll take that under consideration.

Also no.

Kit is almost fine but please please one more r4 1u alt for HHKB/Mac 7u, everything else is there for it.

Of my 5 40s, not one is minivan/"basic 40s" (I'm mostly 12u). Slightly amusing but I'm not asking for it.

Looking forward to seeing this on your wombat

I'll think about it but personally when I was using a HHKB for the week that I had it I mapped one of the alts to function/layer 1 so I could actually use the bloody thing. I'd also say you could use the super keys for that, it's not perfect but it does solve the issue.

What would you even use r2 and r3 novelties for?

Macro/65% nav column.

Macro column is sorted with the macro set in extension, I'd either have to make a call on a single artisan to cover all the rows with or add another 28 novelties to get all of the novelties on these rows for an extremely niche use case when a lot of people use function keys or novelties on the XT columns in off sculpt from what I've seen at meetups.

Or you know, resin if they're ballers.

In addition 65% is supported by actual keys that are mapped there as standard so it's supported in base anyway.

As much as i absolutely hate the color the yellow (seriously, worst color ever) and the Lakers, I think i still prefer phantom. The yellow came off as more of a gold, probably just my preconceived notions of what "regal" colors are.

Phantom the render or phantom the set? That’s closer to butter beige than it is to yellow or gold.

 Phantom the keycap set. What's "phantom the render"?
Just happened to stumble upon this looking at desk mats, might work well for people interested in this set. https://www.redbubble.com/i/mouse-pad/Purple-Fleur-de-lis-by-muskitt/41192870.GAP22

I have phantom on my desk right now, it doesn't look like the renders at all, the yellow of phantom is definitely more like a butter yellow than what's in the renders.

I think that you should separate the spaces and macro into 2 kits

No thanks.

[hottrout]

LOVE the colour.  In on this.

[XiXora]

I'll think about it but personally when I was using a HHKB for the week that I had it I mapped one of the alts to function/layer 1 so I could actually use the bloody thing. I'd also say you could use the super keys for that, it's not perfect but it does solve the issue.

Do you not use the Fn next to the right shift or is this why you added two r4 1u Fn to the kit? I use Super keys for my OS keys, that's out.
Just an odd choice to leave out that second 1u alt for two 1.5u super kits.

[JonoColwell]

I'll think about it but personally when I was using a HHKB for the week that I had it I mapped one of the alts to function/layer 1 so I could actually use the bloody thing. I'd also say you could use the super keys for that, it's not perfect but it does solve the issue.

Do you not use the Fn next to the right shift or is this why you added two r4 1u Fn to the kit? I use Super keys for my OS keys, that's out.
Just an odd choice to leave out that second 1u alt for two 1.5u super kits.

To be honest most of what I did with my HHKB was dislike it and offload it as soon as possible. However let me have a think about it.

[Wolff._.]

I love that purple is the same color as Future funk.
Will pick up a relegenable kit, but really would like a normal spacebars kit as well.

[BasedCoper]

now that's what a base kit should look like

[santela]

Lol seems like a lot of back and forth for the base kit to get where it is now, although it is probably still the largest base kit I've seen.

I like the colors and the novelty, but tbh the deer kinda feels outta place. It looks more like a hunting/wildlife kinda deer and not really a royalty/majestic kind.

[JonoColwell]

UPDATE: 25-05-2022

• Updated novelty renders to use accepted art from GMK
• Added collaborations
• Added Deskmats
• Updated all kits to latest version
• There is a hibi cap just waiting on renders, that has also been confirmed for manufacturability

[ee]

as a 40s hater i confirm i will buy this set

[JonoColwell]

Update 31-05-2022

• Added hibi cap renders
• GB date announced

[udller]

that hibi cap is boss. its the Rolly Royce of metal key-cap artisans.

[Jho]

Nice and cool theme. Absolutely love that HIBI keycap.

[mr_foggy]

finally an actual BASE kit.
or should I say BASED.

idgaf about 40% but just keep the basic support if it makes them shut up

[hottrout]

+1 for the BIG base kit.  Like a lot.

[guypigeotto]

based and purplepilled

[VXQN]

Am I missing something or is there no R2 Esc for 40s compatibility? There's a R3 Tab and short Enter...

[ankit]

Am I missing something or is there no R2 Esc for 40s compatibility? There's a R3 Tab and short Enter...

3-key 40s support doesn't usually include r2 esc from what I understand but since this base kit is so big already I agree that it should have been added.

[JonoColwell]

Am I missing something or is there no R2 Esc for 40s compatibility? There's a R3 Tab and short Enter...

3-key 40s support doesn't usually include r2 esc from what I understand but since this base kit is so big already I agree that it should have been added.

Am I missing something or is there no R2 Esc for 40s compatibility? There's a R3 Tab and short Enter...

I asked all one 40% user in australia what was bare minimum 40s support and he gave me the keys I need, at this point it's priced up, just waiting on a couple of regional prices.

[傻子]

I would say the color is what we need after PHANTOM, but the kitting is suffering  for acromegaly

[Wolff._.]

This set is practically Gmk future funk without the colors. Same patone purple but diffrent white, that you'll most likely end up not even noticing any difference from a standard white. Would like to see more split kitting but will consider copping relegandable kit even though I don't enjoy supporting this abnoxios way of kitting.

[Edit] Lmao just noticed I already said this 💀

[JonoColwell]

UPDATE: Final Hibi Renders and updated Wombat Renders

This set is practically Gmk future funk without the colors. Same patone purple but diffrent white, that you'll most likely end up not even noticing any difference from a standard white. Would like to see more split kitting but will consider copping relegandable kit even though I don't enjoy supporting this abnoxios way of kitting.

[Edit] Lmao just noticed I already said this 💀

There's a couple of problems with split kitting, but my main one is that if you're buying the set aftermarket it sucks when you've got to hunt down some obscure kit that nobody's selling separately and then it won't fit your layout.

Another issue is that it's more expensive overall to purchase two kits than if they were one kit.

Essentially for everything except for XT columns the base kit will support it, not exactly with correct keys but with correct rows.

I would say the color is what we need after PHANTOM, but the kitting is suffering  for acromegaly

See above, I like big kits and I cannot lie.

[hkhawk]

I see pricing on Geon's Instagram for Korea, what is the US pricing?

[Sweihan]

Take my monez

[mr_foggy]

on track to being my 128983th purple set

[JonoColwell]

I see pricing on Geon's Instagram for Korea, what is the US pricing?

It's up now on the GB Thread, will be updating those fully as vendors go live.

on track to being my 128983th purple set

Happy to help

Take my monez

Gladly

[Shorle]

Let's make a set with novelties based on medievil Europe.
Also, let's not include European language support.

smh

Kitting wise I'd have included 1.25u convex spacebar but that's probably just because I also use Ikki68 Aurora with their split style spacebar.
 
GLWGB anyway, set looks good!