ne wkl renders avail and compatibility with cygnus pcb?No, I'm afraid not! We are not associated or working with the Cygnus creators, we're making our own PCB! Will do WKL and HHKB renders soon!
nice!
since cygnus is most likely not going to happen anymore i'm definitely interested in this one! :D
Edit: It would be nice to be able to select more than one color and plate option in the IC form :)
Congrats on the design, I like it so much.
2 questions:
Will it be ALPS compatible? I see that the PCB is, but will you do the plates as well?
Will you include the possibility to do split spacebar?
Finally new F-row less TKL! YEEEEESSSSSS!!!! :D
Few things - how high is front? Like 18mm or so? I hope not too high.
Would you consider some dark grey or dark blue colors?
Will there be hot-swap option or just solder?
A couple of questions after looking at the design.Right now the PCB renders are mostly to visualize the silk design, so yes in the end we are going to support PCB mounted switches as well.
Are those plate mount stabilizer holes or does it support both pcb and plate mount?
If this is a sandwich gasket mount, the top is removable and the weight is internal, why is there a removable plate that screws into the bottom? Why not make the bottom seamless instead?
I went to fill out the interest check form and it only lets me choose one color and one plate material. It would be nice if you could choose more than one color and plate material.
another frl tkl surfaces
A couple of questions after looking at the design.
Are those plate mount stabilizer holes or does it support both pcb and plate mount?
If this is a sandwich gasket mount, the top is removable and the weight is internal, why is there a removable plate that screws into the bottom? Why not make the bottom seamless instead?
I went to fill out the interest check form and it only lets me choose one color and one plate material. It would be nice if you could choose more than one color and plate material.
I like this style of board quite a bit;
Out of curiosity - have you considered making the gap between the main block and the nav cluster/arrow keys wider to match the bezel?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LeEGUsI.png)
I love this layout! It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.
I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.
I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.
Personal I'd rather have the outer bezel be smaller and keep the form compact. But I'm just one nobody :(idk that there would be space for the gaskets if the outer bezel was smaller?
That's a good point. Didn't think about that. I still like it thin. Feel like it fits the theme of a slimmer TKLPersonal I'd rather have the outer bezel be smaller and keep the form compact. But I'm just one nobody :(idk that there would be space for the gaskets if the outer bezel was smaller?
I'm here for matching the bezel size with the between-clusters space if possible
I like this style of board quite a bit;+1 for this.
Out of curiosity - have you considered making the gap between the main block and the nav cluster/arrow keys wider to match the bezel?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LeEGUsI.png)
another frl tkl surfaces
If you don't like it then how about you just ignore it lmao
And it's not like there are too many boards with this layout around...
Also, while this is a small detail, I've always had better luck with strips of rubber on the bottom of the case rather than small rounds. For example all Rama Works boards that I can think of and the NovelKeys NK65 have two strips of rubber running the length of the keyboard rather than four dots in the corners. While the Keycult No 2 kept four pads rather than 2, it went from dots to strips. I find that the strips give the board more traction and are less likely to accidentally come off. I also personally think strips look significantly better/more premium than the dots, in part I guess because the dots can be purchased at any hardware store. I'm not sure how well this would work with the layout of screws on the bottom of the case, but I thought I'd share.
I like this style of board quite a bit;
Out of curiosity - have you considered making the gap between the main block and the nav cluster/arrow keys wider to match the bezel?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LeEGUsI.png)
The plate seems to indicate forced full backspace but the pcb looks like it has the option for split?
Will the plate support split backspace or will it be fixed backspace?
I love this layout! It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.
I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.
I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.
I'm just imagining the WKL version
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another frl tkl surfaces
If you don't like it then how about you just ignore it lmao
And it's not like there are too many boards with this layout around...
hey idiot where in that sentence did i negatively criticize the board, im quite happy theres more frl tkls coming out because i love the layout.
edit: im hoping this board does well gl with ic
If we can achieve WKL AND split spacebar (as I saw it's an idea on the IC) I'll just have to throw my money at youI'm just imagining the WKL version
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Soon you won't have to imagine it! Gonna do some more renders of alternative layouts next week.another frl tkl surfaces
If you don't like it then how about you just ignore it lmao
And it's not like there are too many boards with this layout around...
hey idiot where in that sentence did i negatively criticize the board, im quite happy theres more frl tkls coming out because i love the layout.
edit: im hoping this board does well gl with ic
thank you, glad to hear that. And i agree. I'm kinda surprised we don't have more of this layout.
Im so dowwwn, hope this isn't a FCFS or have limited numbersFeel like that's just the way it has to be these days with the massive influx of people. Only a couple of boards as or late have been open ended group buys
definitely add wkl version.
definitely add wkl version.
This.
Interested! Just a note, it looks like the discord link is broken.Thanks for the heads up! I apparently set it to expire after one day. Fixed now!
definitely add wkl version.
This.
If you add a wkl version, definitely keep the regular version. I know, people are so hard to please. ;)
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKLUh. Sure?
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKLUh. Sure?
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKLUh. Sure?
Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKLUh. Sure?
Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?
frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it
Eh. 70% is such a rare category. I like this description better. Most 70% I've seen scrunch everything together. This def has the TKL shape. I like it as a describer.
IC filled out! I really really really like this.Thank you for filling it out! <3
Edit: To weigh in on the win key debate; I think having WKL as an option would be cool, but I personally dislike how it splits apart the row.
Haha. Yeah. My response was just because WKL is such a personal preference and way more subjective. Don't think there's any definitive reasoning why WKL would be better. It's not like it significantly saves more space. It just removes 2 buttons.FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKLUh. Sure?
Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?
frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it
Oh duh. My bad. That seems obvious in retrospect.
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As for layout compatibility, in the first run with prototypes we're only looking at standard ANSI and ISO layouts.
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Haha. Yeah. My response was just because WKL is such a personal preference and way more subjective. Don't think there's any definitive reasoning why WKL would be better. It's not like it significantly saves more space. It just removes 2 buttons.FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKLUh. Sure?
Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?
frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it
Oh duh. My bad. That seems obvious in retrospect.
I love this layout! It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.
I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.
I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.Definitely agree with points two and three. I'm fine with the bezels either way.
Reviewing comments and answers on the IC, and I'm overwhelmed with the positive responses! I'm so excited to hear that a lot of people are happy to see this layout being made. I'm really passionate about making this keyboard work well and sound beautiful and I'm very eager to get started prototyping.
As of now I've rebuilt the case from scratch, for the sake of cleaning up my files and making edits easier. I started the design not really knowing how it would end up, and so I worked in a way which turned out quite messy and edits were pretty complicated to make. I made up everything from scratch again, starting from the newly made plate design, with all the layouts incorporated into one plate.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679988321157382168/682319575463100442/unknown.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zxcCWoa.jpg)
This plate will support:
- ANSI
- ISO
- Tsangan (WKL)
- Split spacebar
- Split backspace
The hotswap PCB will only be available in ANSI and ISO since the hotswap pockets take up a lot of space on the PCB and can't be overlapped.
Note: If you do notice something wrong with my plate/layout logic do let me know. I'm primarily an ANSI user myself so I'm not too familiar with other layouts.
Other updates:
- Front height adjusted to 17mm
- Rubber legs will be strips, not standard circular bumpers
- HHKB top unfortunately ruled out in the first round, but high possibilities that it will be included in a future run if things go well!
- WKL alternative tops will be an option
I think I also will change the weight to the outside of the bottom, exposed with the logo engraved. No fancy peeking through or merging of parts though. The screws will be hidden on the inside of the case.
The weight will be an option you can opt out of for a slightly cheaper case.
Things still in process:
- Back design, trying out various changes to make it look a little bit more interesting. If it doesn't work, I'll go with the clean design as is.
- Indicator LEDs design/look, as well as badge/name engraved on the top.
- Room for foam/dampening on the inside.
Thank you so much for your kind words and support!! I'm sorry if I haven't replied to your comment, I try to answer the ones that I can. Just be persistent if you have any questions that go unanswered, and you can also still join my discord server (https://discord.gg/7avjFdA) dedicated to this project!
- snurrebassen/seb
Reviewing comments and answers on the IC, and I'm overwhelmed with the positive responses! I'm so excited to hear that a lot of people are happy to see this layout being made. I'm really passionate about making this keyboard work well and sound beautiful and I'm very eager to get started prototyping.
As of now I've rebuilt the case from scratch, for the sake of cleaning up my files and making edits easier. I started the design not really knowing how it would end up, and so I worked in a way which turned out quite messy and edits were pretty complicated to make. I made up everything from scratch again, starting from the newly made plate design, with all the layouts incorporated into one plate.Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679988321157382168/682319575463100442/unknown.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zxcCWoa.jpg)
This plate will support:
- ANSI
- ISO
- Tsangan (WKL)
- Split spacebar
- Split backspace
The hotswap PCB will only be available in ANSI and ISO since the hotswap pockets take up a lot of space on the PCB and can't be overlapped.
Note: If you do notice something wrong with my plate/layout logic do let me know. I'm primarily an ANSI user myself so I'm not too familiar with other layouts.
Other updates:
- Front height adjusted to 17mm
- Rubber legs will be strips, not standard circular bumpers
- HHKB top unfortunately ruled out in the first round, but high possibilities that it will be included in a future run if things go well!
- WKL alternative tops will be an option
I think I also will change the weight to the outside of the bottom, exposed with the logo engraved. No fancy peeking through or merging of parts though. The screws will be hidden on the inside of the case.
The weight will be an option you can opt out of for a slightly cheaper case.
Things still in process:
- Back design, trying out various changes to make it look a little bit more interesting. If it doesn't work, I'll go with the clean design as is.
- Indicator LEDs design/look, as well as badge/name engraved on the top.
- Room for foam/dampening on the inside.
Thank you so much for your kind words and support!! I'm sorry if I haven't replied to your comment, I try to answer the ones that I can. Just be persistent if you have any questions that go unanswered, and you can also still join my discord server (https://discord.gg/7avjFdA) dedicated to this project!
- snurrebassen/seb
Very good job indeed with the plate and layouts.
You should need to consider making a different plate for alps, (I personally wouldn't mind to pay extra for that) because the switch holes bigger than 1u do not work properly with ALPS.
ALPS switches clip onto the corners, and when you extend the hole to allow for different places (for example in the split backspace option) the switches only have 2 corners to clip onto, and they end up crooked. The holes for the spacebars with stabs to them are fine enough although you should know that the switch has nothing to support itself there, so it's like "PCB mount" in there. Keeping the hole short in the vertical axis provides alignment, so those positions are not an issue for me.
Summing it up, it would be best if you made a different plate for alps or at least cut the small inside corners in places where switches would only support on one side. If you need I can give you more info and examples via PM :)
I love this so much, especially that it is something no one ever seen before! Just a thought though, I kinda like thinner outer bezels, makes the board even cleaner. And, can you maybe fit some sort of logo between the key clusters on the right? Thought it would look great! External weight would also look great, I have to agree.
I love this so much, especially that it is something no one ever seen before! Just a thought though, I kinda like thinner outer bezels, makes the board even cleaner. And, can you maybe fit some sort of logo between the key clusters on the right? Thought it would look great! External weight would also look great, I have to agree.
Thank you for your comment and support! Unfortunately due to the mounting, the outer bezels has to be rather thick, since it has to make space for the screws as well as the whole bottom wall. It's part of the whole design at this point :)
Aside from that I'm working on a logo to put on the top part, as well as moving the weight to the external side, but keeping the screws on the inside!
I see, i haven’t thought of that, mostly because I haven’t used alps switches yet! It makes sense too, seeing as most buyers most likely use MX to have separate plates, especially since plates aren’t exactly cheaper to produce the more
plates you make, unless you manufacture them
differently. Good input!
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Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.
I would also prefer 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.
I get that users of split spacebar layouts already are pretty particular about their setup and tend to have small variations to tailor their exact style of typing, so it's hard to find a good balance between including a variety of layouts but at the same time maintaining the integrity of the original board. Hopefully I won't alienate too many possible buyers!
Just a question,
Can we have the USB connection to the far left of the back case and not in the middle ?
Is this possible ? Would love to see the USB connection to back but left hand side.
Kind regards
Hi,
It more for aesthetic reasons, i feel more comfortable with the USB on the left hand side and not in the middle.
If it makes for the board to be cheaper thats even better but i don't mind if the additional cost goes to the maker of the board.
This board is clean af! What price range are you aiming for?
This board is clean af! What price range are you aiming for?
$300-400 is what I'm hoping for! Currently quoting it from one factory, but will check out another one to compare!
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.
I get that users of split spacebar layouts already are pretty particular about their setup and tend to have small variations to tailor their exact style of typing, so it's hard to find a good balance between including a variety of layouts but at the same time maintaining the integrity of the original board. Hopefully I won't alienate too many possible buyers!
I have very high hopes in this board, could be my second end game (after Novatouched Realforce).
It keeps TKL layout, when cutting the size of it to minimum without moving any of the clusters.
Then materials, height, angle. It all going in a very good direction. If it gets rgb leds and maybe even hotswap, it will be a perfection.
If it comes to name/badge - I wouldn't put it on top, I would go with back of it, or bottom.
Hotswap ANSI and ISO will most likely be done. We're considering adding RGB, depending on demand. I think we will do a separate PCB form just to collect general data for the full production of the PCBs.🙌🙌🙌 bless
Hotswap ANSI and ISO will most likely be done. We're considering adding RGB, depending on demand. I think we will do a separate PCB form just to collect general data for the full production of the PCBs.Great! :thumb:
This is a layout that I could see myself using, especially with a split backspace. I would prefer an external weight over an internal one, though.It is on the outside of the bottom. Post is a couple up.
This is a layout that I could see myself using, especially with a split backspace. I would prefer an external weight over an internal one, though.It is on the outside of the bottom. Post is a couple up.
I was hoping against hope that if WKL was an option that HHKB-style blockers would make the cut too :( Oh well. Still looks really good.
I was hoping against hope that if WKL was an option that HHKB-style blockers would make the cut too :( Oh well. Still looks really good.
Might be just me, but I think HHKB blockers would look weird on this kind of layout.
looks ok. take a look at the duck blackbird.
I feel that the brass weight engraving reminds the underside of the Moon (http://imgur.com/09NZOTJ.jpg) a tad too much :(
Plus yours honestly looks better than either of those imo. Lol.I feel that the brass weight engraving reminds the underside of the Moon (http://imgur.com/09NZOTJ.jpg) a tad too much :(
I get what you mean. There is apparently another board called Eclipse from a Korean site that someone else showed me, with the same sort of look of the logo:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/M4fpfko.png)
https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=mechanicalkeyboard&no=466827 (https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=mechanicalkeyboard&no=466827)
However, a diagram of moons and eclipses is widely used a lot because it looks pretty. It's not a specifically designed logo or includes any known trademarks and the design of this weight was done entirely inspired by pictures of eclipses, from scratch.
Hopefully the layouts available and the overall mounting design is what makes the keyboard unique, and not the name/ornaments on it!
Any specific plans for the gasket material at this time? Poron seems like the hot material at the moment, but I'll admit I'm not a materials engineer and don't fully understand it.
Great looking board. I personally dont like plate-mount stabs, but if that is changed, this would be a very easy buy for me. Great work.Thank you!
I am also curious about doing the strips in the other direction. I’ve always seen them running the length of the board left to right rather than front to back. It looks like the screw holes in this design might get in the way of that though. I think having strips running front to back should still give better traction than round dots, and they will still be less likely to accidentally come off.
Great looking board. I personally dont like plate-mount stabs, but if that is changed, this would be a very easy buy for me. Great work.Thank you!
I'm a big user of screw in stabilizers myself so the plate is designed to fit both plate mount stabs and screw-in stabs :)
At least it should fit both....prototype will show!
Any specific plans for the gasket material at this time? Poron seems like the hot material at the moment, but I'll admit I'm not a materials engineer and don't fully understand it.
Shoot! I thought I replied to you, I must have left a draft somewhere then.
I've been looking into different types of materials. I want to make assembly as simple as possible so I'm for the prototype I'm gonna try 3M silicone pads, which will be die cut to fit the case, and will already have an adhesive surface so every customer will assemble these themselves.
If the quality doesn't meet up with what I'm after, I'm gonna try silicone molded pads, which are expensive but will feel way more premium, and will have a smoother look, as you can shape them however you want. Attaching them to the case is another thing to think about though, since there are about 32 gaskets per case!
Will you offer to sell directly in Norway, or only through vendors?I don't have the experience nor contacts in Norway to sell this here. If I did, i definitely would, but Mykeyboard usually offers a refund for the VAT, so it should be fine :)
Now this sparked my interest, I've wanted a 65 but this hits all my happy places with its design.Thank you, good to hear!!
This is honestly exactly what I was looking for. I hope it lands somewhere in my price range...Love to hear this. I've always felt that 65% layouts are incomplete in a way. There is something "asymmetrical" about it, which is why I wanted to do something like this instead.
Love this layout much more than 65% and traditional TKL. I really hope we can get this bad boy out of IC and into GB.
My only special request is that the hot-swap stays! <3
I understand. I hope the Norwegian kroner will have recovered in time for the GB, I’m not joining any current GB’s because of it.Will you offer to sell directly in Norway, or only through vendors?I don't have the experience nor contacts in Norway to sell this here. If I did, i definitely would, but Mykeyboard usually offers a refund for the VAT, so it should be fine :)
Interested to hearing how this sounds. Any timeline on a prototype?No definite timeline yet. Prototypes are ordered though, and shouldn’t be more than a few weeks to produce :) I’m planning on streaming the build and testing of it, i will post info on this once I know more!
Interested to hearing how this sounds. Any timeline on a prototype?No definite timeline yet. Prototypes are ordered though, and shouldn’t be more than a few weeks to produce :) I’m planning on streaming the build and testing of it, i will post info on this once I know more!
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Thank you all so much for your kind words, I am pleasantly overwhelmed!Excited for that proto
The prototypes is officially in production now, so stay tuned :) :thumb:
I would like ALPS PCB option if it can be done. I could buy both the regular and alps version to try
I would like ALPS PCB option if it can be done. I could buy both the regular and alps version to try
Alps would be amazing!
I would like ALPS PCB option if it can be done. I could buy both the regular and alps version to try
Thank you all so much for your kind words, I am pleasantly overwhelmed!
The prototypes is officially in production now, so stay tuned :) :thumb:
Hello all! I hope you enjoyed your easter holidays as much as you could, and I hope you are doing well :)
The case is still in production, the easter holidays came up just after I sent the files off, so it's being programmed right now.
If you could all fill out this form (https://forms.gle/Notwub4qgrSrRUeH8/), specifically for the PCB and layout options it would be a great help to gauge our final options for the PCBs!
Meanwhile I'm working on general designs for the packaging/general branding look :)
Thank you all for your continued support!!
Stay tuned ;D
Count me in for 1 of these. Do you know what layout the alps plate would support? WKL support would be awesome for the alps plate.
Count me in for 1 of these. Do you know what layout the alps plate would support? WKL support would be awesome for the alps plate.We are still trying to figure out what to do with the alps situation. From the IC of the PCB I recently posted very few have requested ALPS support so we're working on the best solution. I'm really hoping we can include those. The ALPS plate will most likely support the same layouts :)
A WKL option for the top part of the case will be available!I really hope this goes into GB, it's a sexy looking board.
Pictures from the factory, the cases are done and ready for polishing and anodizing! :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jZQFVOVr.jpg)
However sadly I discovered too late that the inner holes for the keycaps are about 1mm too wide on all sides, so there might be a little bit bigger gap between the keycaps and the case edges, we will see. In any case this is what prototyping is for!
Pictures from the factory, the cases are done and ready for polishing and anodizing! :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jZQFVOVr.jpg)
However sadly I discovered too late that the inner holes for the keycaps are about 1mm too wide on all sides, so there might be a little bit bigger gap between the keycaps and the case edges, we will see. In any case this is what prototyping is for!
Looks great! What is the generally agreed on dimension between caps and case sidewalls? Or PCB switch footprint and case sidewalls?
bezels on the proto look much larger than in the renders. is this just my imagination?
Looks nice! HHKB top and hotswap would be great. :)
Looks nice! HHKB top and hotswap would be great. :)
Not at all interested in hot swap but yeah, HHKB blockers would make this killer
Looks great, +1 interest.thank you!!
Do you know if the PCB will have ESD protection?
Looks great, +1 interest.Hi there the pcb uses a daughter board created by AI03 which has esd protection built in!
Do you know if the PCB will have ESD protection?
:DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/1ktMfr2.jpg)
:DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/1ktMfr2.jpg)
:DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/1ktMfr2.jpg)
Not a fan of those thick bezels tbh...
noob question, could those 6 keys above arrows set be changed into macro keys?
noob question, could those 6 keys above arrows set be changed into macro keys?
Yep. You can pretty much program any key to do whatever you want. You can also put your macros on a second layer. The key that’s Fn in the render to the right of the space bar (or any other key really) could be programmed so that when pressed or held, a subsequent layer of functionality is accessed. You can program keys to do something else on that layer. Default is layer 0. You could put your macros on layer 1 on whatever keys you want. Moral of the story is you can basically program the board to do whatever you want. If you want every key to register as left shift, you could.
Does it mean that for example if I'm going to use ANSI keyboard, I could program it to have £ symbol under Pause key?yes, that is how programmable keyboards built on QMK work. The layout is stored on the board
That would be registered in the keyboard and no matter what system I would be using, or what language set in OS, it would work?
Does it mean that for example if I'm going to use ANSI keyboard, I could program it to have £ symbol under Pause key?yes, that is how programmable keyboards built on QMK work. The layout is stored on the board
That would be registered in the keyboard and no matter what system I would be using, or what language set in OS, it would work?
:DShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/1ktMfr2.jpg)
Can you list or show renders of the color choices? I know there are some color option listed on IC form, but would be easier to check out if they were listed on IC page. Also, would you think about adding grey to the list? I really want to see this board get made and if it came in grey it'd be an instant no hesitation purchase for me. Any idea when GB might go down if it happens?Hey!
UPDATE:Great photos... hope during the gb there will be an option for fixed ansi plate rather than universal. If not, please release the plate file.
Cases are shipped from factory!
Some quick photos:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/9raomhB.jpg)
(Light) Pink with brass weightShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/aNnm13m.jpg)
Pink case with dark blue bottom (weightless)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6mQCywc.jpg)
Pink case with stainless steel weightShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YBIoZRd.jpg)
Plates: Aluminum, brass and polycarbonate
Those with keen eyes might spot that I forgot to add holes on the plates for the LEDs :confused:
An embarrassing mistake from my side. I'm gonna try get it sorted though, so I can test how the indicator LEDs work out properly.
Again, thanks for all the kind comments and support! ;)
Looks really great! Any pictures of the tops as well?It sadly wasn't provided as far as I know. Factory pictures usually aren't the best :-X
Great photos... hope during the gb there will be an option for fixed ansi plate rather than universal. If not, please release the plate file.
Not a fan of universal plates nowadays.
UPDATE:
Cases are shipped from factory!
Some quick photos:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/9raomhB.jpg)
(Light) Pink with brass weightShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/aNnm13m.jpg)
Pink case with dark blue bottom (weightless)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6mQCywc.jpg)
Pink case with stainless steel weightShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YBIoZRd.jpg)
Plates: Aluminum, brass and polycarbonate
Those with keen eyes might spot that I forgot to add holes on the plates for the LEDs :confused:
An embarrassing mistake from my side. I'm gonna try get it sorted though, so I can test how the indicator LEDs work out properly.
Again, thanks for all the kind comments and support! ;)
Looks like just half of the tap is the larger opening (countersunk). The lower cut through diameter is smaller giving more thickness to the hole.UPDATE:
Cases are shipped from factory!
Some quick photos:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/9raomhB.jpg)
(Light) Pink with brass weightShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/aNnm13m.jpg)
Pink case with dark blue bottom (weightless)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6mQCywc.jpg)
Pink case with stainless steel weightShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YBIoZRd.jpg)
Plates: Aluminum, brass and polycarbonate
Those with keen eyes might spot that I forgot to add holes on the plates for the LEDs :confused:
An embarrassing mistake from my side. I'm gonna try get it sorted though, so I can test how the indicator LEDs work out properly.
Again, thanks for all the kind comments and support! ;)
Looks great! Out of curiosity, how much thickness is left when the screw holes are drilled so close to the edge of the bottom piece?
Looks like just half of the tap is the larger opening (countersunk). The lower cut through diameter is smaller giving more thickness to the hole.
Looks great! Out of curiosity, how much thickness is left when the screw holes are drilled so close to the edge of the bottom piece?
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Please keep us posted on PCB prototype. I'm waiting for the 'check mark' on OP :)))
Looks like just half of the tap is the larger opening (countersunk). The lower cut through diameter is smaller giving more thickness to the hole.
Looks great! Out of curiosity, how much thickness is left when the screw holes are drilled so close to the edge of the bottom piece?
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Yeah that is right. I'm not very comfortable having them that close but if i remember right i kind of had to, to balance everything out. I'll see if i can change it for the next rev!
Design is awesome, but yes, those very thin edges of srew holes are a bit too thin, a bit worrying. I understad that few mm below it gets smaller, so that top hole is just for srew head, but still, I wouldn't like to break that thin edge at some point.
WHat would be the weight of this case - weightless version and with weight?
Design is awesome, but yes, those very thin edges of srew holes are a bit too thin, a bit worrying. I understad that few mm below it gets smaller, so that top hole is just for srew head, but still, I wouldn't like to break that thin edge at some point.
WHat would be the weight of this case - weightless version and with weight?
Yeah. I'm definitely gonna have a look at that. Maybe try looking into countersunk screws if I can't do anything about their closeness to the edge. It's not looking too good either, aesthetically.
By measuring the mass and material in Fusion, the three parts should amount to around 2.1kg, so it's looking to be a heavy guy :)
Design is awesome, but yes, those very thin edges of srew holes are a bit too thin, a bit worrying. I understad that few mm below it gets smaller, so that top hole is just for srew head, but still, I wouldn't like to break that thin edge at some point.
WHat would be the weight of this case - weightless version and with weight?
Yeah. I'm definitely gonna have a look at that. Maybe try looking into countersunk screws if I can't do anything about their closeness to the edge. It's not looking too good either, aesthetically.
By measuring the mass and material in Fusion, the three parts should amount to around 2.1kg, so it's looking to be a heavy guy :)
Will e-white still be a colour option?
Oh I really hope so! I'm planning to combine the eclipse with GMK Minimall!Will e-white still be a colour option?
As far as I know, e-white is one of the easier colors to do, so yes I reckon it will be :)
- QTY, first round will most likely be limited to 150 units FCFS. This is simply to make sure the quality can be met to match the samples on all units.
Will e-white still be a colour option?
As far as I know, e-white is one of the easier colors to do, so yes I reckon it will be :)
Seems like there isn’t much consensus on what to call this layout. This thread has gone from "TKL" 60% to 70% gasket mount, and Quinella called it a FKL TKL. Maybe it doesn’t matter what we call it, but I’m thinking Compact TKL mostly because there doesn’t seem to be much consensus around a 70% layout. I guess I don't really care as long as this board makes it to GB.
By the way, I went back and read the thread on Cygnus. Lots of drama. Likely based on a stolen design from Bisoromi which went sideways. The full read is here (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103717.0). It got me thinking about where 'ownership' of a design or concept ends and public domain begins. Does anyone own a layout? Probably not. Besides, check out the Drevo Caliber 71 (https://www.drevo.net/product/keyboard/calibur). Seems to be the same layout and Amazon puts the listing date as December 2016, way before anything was ever posted here on GH.
I am very interested. one question, is it my brain or the gaps between the keycaps and the top case look larger than usual.
The distance from keycaps to inner edges is something that definitely will be fixed and tightened up. I honestly expected it to look worse than it does now. The gap looked way bigger virtually.
Still I will make it fit tighter, by adjusting it a tiny bit, so the caps will be fit better in the case.
Damn was really excited for this board but the proto looks kinda bad. Renders were nice and sleek but the proto is super bulky. Has a completely different feel.What exactly do you have in mind, with the term bulky?
It has come up a couple of times that the bezels are bigger than what especially the OP render suggests.Damn was really excited for this board but the proto looks kinda bad. Renders were nice and sleek but the proto is super bulky. Has a completely different feel.What exactly do you have in mind, with the term bulky?
+1 for hotswap. Everything looks very sleek, I prefer slightly larger bezels like this
Good to see the prototype. As others have stated, the gaps don't look great. I think you should reduce the radius on those inner corners. They don't need to match the outer radius, they can be more squared off to match the keycap borders.
Damn was really excited for this board but the proto looks kinda bad. Renders were nice and sleek but the proto is super bulky. Has a completely different feel.What exactly do you have in mind, with the term bulky?
I’m aiming to improve this prototype, so I’m gonna try out a few things to see if I can make it better!
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Yeah same. It’s an instant buy with the render bezels, but I have doubts about the proto. It also makes the corners of the board seem sharper? I think they’re the same degree as the render, but the amount of bezel makes it seem like a sharper corner.Damn was really excited for this board but the proto looks kinda bad. Renders were nice and sleek but the proto is super bulky. Has a completely different feel.What exactly do you have in mind, with the term bulky?
I’m aiming to improve this prototype, so I’m gonna try out a few things to see if I can make it better!
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So while I actually like thicc bezels, the added thickness does detract a little from the initial design shown in the renders and at least to me, doesn't have the same feel
Yeah same. It’s an instant buy with the render bezels, but I have doubts about the proto. It also makes the corners of the board seem sharper? I think they’re the same degree as the render, but the amount of bezel makes it seem like a sharper corner.
So while I actually like thicc bezels, the added thickness does detract a little from the initial design shown in the renders and at least to me, doesn't have the same feel
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No RGB ??
Thinking about putting a logo or logo on the top housing of the keyboard?
No problem, I will wait for this keyboard. Keep improving.
As for a general update on the progress here, we are halted some because of some issues with the PCB. I also suspect there is a problem with how the PCB will fit the case so I will either have to re-machine the case or just go ahead and do a new prototype with all the changes and improvements learned from the prototypes.
Meanwhile I'm having a new plate machined very soon, with a hopefully improved design.
Sorry for the slow progress, and thank you all for your continued support!
Also, I hope everyone are safe during these crazy, crazy times <3
Hey n00b here but im so into this layout and design.
I saw someone ask for hotswap which id love to see if theres more interest but otherwise i could afford to learn soldering anyway. BIG HYPES for this one man.
Would there be any US distributors or whatever for this if it makes it to GB? again sorry for the ignorance im still learning this hobby.
UpdateDam, that’s a stunner right there.
Hey all, sorry for the lack of updates here, we sort of hit a little bump in the road with the design, but we're pushing forwards nevertheless.
Regarding everything that's happened in the world, I guess it's only for the best. Somehow it feels wrong to focus on something as insignificant and trivial as this project nowadays. Hopefully it can act like a break from everything, and remind us of a world where we are all privileged enough to only have to worry about how to make our keyboards sound perfect and enjoy the work we do on them, and thus bring us happiness this way.
Anyway, the PCB is still in the process of being assembled and meanwhile I've taken some feedback to heart, adjusted the design based on how the prototype looked and made a few changes to the case. Once I get the PCB shipped to me I'll do the final adjustments and order another prototype.
Main changes are:
- Slightly thinner bezels/edges.
- Back edge thicker than front edge, to make it more aesthetically pleasing from a typing angle
- Cutting a path for cable and components in the bottom case
- Tightened the inner edges and added smaller radii on the corners, so there is no gap between keycaps and case
- Made additional relief cuts to the plate, for a more even and consistent sound
Here is a new render featuring a new GMK set I'm rendering for S3LQ (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106679.0):Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679987012677533699/720995778029682698/GMK_Zoom_Eclipse.png)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679987012677533699/718863948589301860/Screen_Shot_2020-06-06_at_18.28.30.png)
Thank you so much, I hope you're doing okay!
what's up with the cap-to-bezel spacing here, superchief?Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422242037669167105/721235373321224222/image0.jpg)
what's up with the cap-to-bezel spacing here, superchief?Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422242037669167105/721235373321224222/image0.jpg)
Update
Hey all, sorry for the lack of updates here, we sort of hit a little bump in the road with the design, but we're pushing forwards nevertheless.
Regarding everything that's happened in the world, I guess it's only for the best. Somehow it feels wrong to focus on something as insignificant and trivial as this project nowadays. Hopefully it can act like a break from everything, and remind us of a world where we are all privileged enough to only have to worry about how to make our keyboards sound perfect and enjoy the work we do on them, and thus bring us happiness this way.
Anyway, the PCB is still in the process of being assembled and meanwhile I've taken some feedback to heart, adjusted the design based on how the prototype looked and made a few changes to the case. Once I get the PCB shipped to me I'll do the final adjustments and order another prototype.
Main changes are:
- Slightly thinner bezels/edges.
- Back edge thicker than front edge, to make it more aesthetically pleasing from a typing angle
- Cutting a path for cable and components in the bottom case
- Tightened the inner edges and added smaller radii on the corners, so there is no gap between keycaps and case
- Made additional relief cuts to the plate, for a more even and consistent sound
Here is a new render featuring a new GMK set I'm rendering for S3LQ (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=106679.0):Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679987012677533699/720995778029682698/GMK_Zoom_Eclipse.png)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679987012677533699/718863948589301860/Screen_Shot_2020-06-06_at_18.28.30.png)
Thank you so much, I hope you're doing okay!
Wow, that updated render looks great! Any chance of HHKB blockers? Also, how high did the caps sit on the prototype?Thank you!!
I was wondering, if second proto comes out ok, does it mean you going to run GB next month?
Do you think it would be possible to get the final keybaords shipped to us by end of this year?
I was wondering, if second proto comes out ok, does it mean you going to run GB next month?
Do you think it would be possible to get the final keybaords shipped to us by end of this year?
I totally love your optimism! Personally, I will be ecstatic to see this board whenever snurrebassen releases it. Absolute functional win (for me) if this makes it to production. Even better with the aesthetic refinements.
I was wondering, if second proto comes out ok, does it mean you going to run GB next month?
Do you think it would be possible to get the final keybaords shipped to us by end of this year?
If the second prototype comes out good, it means nothing is really in the way of doing a GB, other than a possible queue at the factory or delays with the vendors etc.
As much as I want this keyboard out to people, I also wanna make sure everything is right and proper and that I'm feeling good about selling it to you all :)
As azzipa notes, I also love your enthusiasm! :D
I was wondering, if second proto comes out ok, does it mean you going to run GB next month?
Do you think it would be possible to get the final keybaords shipped to us by end of this year?
If the second prototype comes out good, it means nothing is really in the way of doing a GB, other than a possible queue at the factory or delays with the vendors etc.
As much as I want this keyboard out to people, I also wanna make sure everything is right and proper and that I'm feeling good about selling it to you all :)
As azzipa notes, I also love your enthusiasm! :D
As a small update, I'm back to work after months of being furloughed so work on the case is going slow. However, I'm working to improve the design further. I want to try to improve the mounting and plate system for better aesthetics, before doing a new prototype.
Glad to hear you're getting a little 'normal' in your life. Hopefully your keyboard helper in the photo won't miss you too much... Maybe he can pick up the slack while you're out earning a paycheck? ^-^
Also glad to hear that you're continuing to tweak the design. I can only imagine the learning curve as you work through the prototype process. I'm guessing there are a bunch of us looking forward to more updates and an eventual GB. In the meantime, thanks for the info.
Hi all!
It's my vacation now, so I've been tinkering with the redesigning of the Eclipse. I basically started all over again, because eventually my CAD-file gets too messy and has too many links I don't understand, so I tend to end up making it from scratch again.
Right now I've been trying to improve the gasket system, slimming the edges, front height and making the design smarter.
Here is a WIP of how the case looks so far:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/AFseUuh.png)
Bottom part, with gaskets and the plate, fitted into slots for better alignment than before.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/SI76RCL.png)
Added extrusions to the bottom, so the screw holes on the bottom will have more room. PCB will be slotted into a notch in these extrusions (Hidden under the plate in this picture)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MAOLZO3.png)
Hoping to have die-cut a thin layer of silicone to cover the surface of the top part, to act as a gasket and also better sound absorption.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CXjZYIr.png)
Added a cut to the top part, to expose the bottom part, making it more recognizable and also avoiding having to have the USB port go through two walls of the case.
I'll be finalizing this design, making sure there are no flaws with the logic of how everything will come together. If you do happen to spot anything that's looking bad or won't work, please let me know!
Thank you for following :)
Looove the idea of this but do we know if bezels are gonna be slightly reduced like shown in the original renders?
I don’t know how I feel about the cutout having rounded corners though. I don’t dislike it, but the radii of the corners aren’t mirrored elsewhere in the design. That isn’t necessarily bad. Like I said, I honestly don’t know how I feel about it.
Let me preface the next question by saying that I am not an engineer or otherwise an expert.
Regarding the gaskets, am I correct in my interpretation that the gasket for the top piece is the large sheet of silicone that covers the underside? Do you think that will provide benefits that the strips most cases use will not? Using strips like you do for the bottom gaskets would allow you to just double the number of strips, which I imagine is less expensive than a second die-cut shape.
Edit: also, I just want to say great work! Designing a keyboard and running an IC are a lot of work, and I respect that. I hope you’re enjoying your vacation! Lastly, would it be possible to get a view of how the bottom will look with the redesign? Are you still thinking of doing both plain and brass weight versions?
Looove the idea of this but do we know if bezels are gonna be slightly reduced like shown in the original renders?
is there an updated layout diagram? I find it weird that there's no split right shift when I look at the first post and there's some renders with the cut out.
This layout is great, makes alot of sense actually, especially for certain games where you need to programme some keys near the arrow cluster! Loving the clean design as well.
What software are you using for the renders btw?
Looking good! The design changes are pleasing to me (I like that back curve personally!), and the die-cut silicone sounds very interesting. I do also wonder a bit though if the custom silicone will increase the price substantially compared to gasket strips -- I have no idea on the pricing for things like that. Either way I'm glad this is progressing!
Looking good! The design changes are pleasing to me (I like that back curve personally!), and the die-cut silicone sounds very interesting. I do also wonder a bit though if the custom silicone will increase the price substantially compared to gasket strips -- I have no idea on the pricing for things like that. Either way I'm glad this is progressing!
That’s a good point about the cost of the die cut top gasket. Would the complexity significantly increase cost? One other thing I thought of about the top gasket is that such a large and complex piece of adhesive silicone would be difficult to install without any errors in alignment, creases, etc, particularly since the whole thing will sit recessed inside of the top case. Strips are comparatively much easier to install. Also, should the large, one-piece top gasket get damaged (although honestly idk how this would happen other than really messing up installation), it would be much more difficult to replace than a comparatively simple strip. Don’t get me wrong: I think it’s a very interesting idea, I’m just trying to be helpful.
This layout is great, makes alot of sense actually, especially for certain games where you need to programme some keys near the arrow cluster! Loving the clean design as well.
What software are you using for the renders btw?
Thanks, that's good to hear!
Using Maya + Octane render :)
This layout is great, makes alot of sense actually, especially for certain games where you need to programme some keys near the arrow cluster! Loving the clean design as well.
What software are you using for the renders btw?
Thanks, that's good to hear!
Using Maya + Octane render :)
this makes me miss maya so much...my autodesk cert means nothing anymore since im so rusty. but now i just want to go render keyboards since you mentioned this. literally cant wait for this gb to happen.
Sorry if it was already covered, but is there QMK / VIA firmware support? If so I think you can safely count me in.Yes! VIA is now open source (if i'm not comepletely mistaken) so yes, it will be no problem. Personally a huge fan of VIA so gonna make sure it happens.
So will polycarbonate likely be a case material? And the HHKB top?I really want to make this happen, if not immediately, it will be my focus once a prototype is successful ;)
Yes! VIA is now open source (if i'm not comepletely mistaken) so yes, it will be no problem. Personally a huge fan of VIA so gonna make sure it happens.
So will polycarbonate likely be a case material? And the HHKB top?I really want to make this happen, if not immediately, it will be my focus once a prototype is successful ;)
As to my decision to first only do a few, perhaps limited and dull colors, [...]
Even if we order prototypes in these 3 colors, it doesn't mean I've completely set my mind on themBlack, gray and e-white are always safe choices. I'd certainly go for e-white too.
As always, I'm very open to input and your thoughts because I might be completely wrong in my way of thinking :)
Very interested! A dark blue FRL WKL TKL is one of the things I've been looking for
I love it - please don't add the cut outs to the side panels i like the solid look. Can you please advise if you are going to sell it like the original picture ? or is it going to have the side cut outs on it ?Sorry for the very different versions in the renders! I’ve gone back and forth a lot.
Looks great. Is there any renders or images of the wkl version?
In other news, new prototypes have been ordered and are lined up for production!
Please pray for success! ;)
Split Space, Rose Gold, and Asthetic AF? Must cop for me.
Curious if this has been mentioned previously, but is the split space bar configuration fixed to 2.25u/1u/2.75u? Or would other options like 2.75/1/2.25 and, or 3/1/3 layouts be available as well? In any case, fixed split space bars or not, the board looks great. Wishing the protyping nothing but success :thumb:
How much will it be expected to cost? Also will it have split space bar options?
Very interested in this! Would definitely be down for an E-White order based on pricing.
Looks fantastic, and a nice take on TKLs. I've been enjoying HHKB and now Tsangan layout, and this board finally makes Tsangan with split RShift/Backspace make sense in a TKL-size board.
Price is estimated to be somewhere between $350-$450, we haven't decided a price just yet.
As for the split space bar, it looks like this and it's included all in the same plate:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/jyTgpBt.png)
It looks like split r shift is included in the supported layouts outlined in the first post.
Not sure if this is possible at this point, but is split right-shift an option?
It looks like split r shift is included in the supported layouts outlined in the first post.Not sure if this is possible at this point, but is split right-shift an option?
Yes, I just updated it to include split right shift, as I realized it's pretty much a must have for WKL layouts ;)
As for layout compatibility, in the first run with prototypes we're only looking at standard ANSI and ISO layouts.
Someone has already done PCB for this form factor:
https://keyhive.xyz/shop/absinthe
I wish there were way more options for this form factor
Someone has already done PCB for this form factor:
https://keyhive.xyz/shop/absinthe
I wish there were way more options for this form factor
I'm actually surprised that there aren't more keyboards/PCBs with this layout. It's not exactly revolutionary, it's just a TKL with fewer keys, hah
I know right? Everybody is creating these ridiculous layouts, but this very logical layout is generally missing from the conversation.
Regarding the PCB, is there any way we can get a hotswap? This is my ideal layout, but I also want to use it for my hype switch addiction, lol!
I love the Tenkeyless and function rows missing. This is exactly what I am looking for.(https://66.media.tumblr.com/9bc15cefb6f3ec024ade3892e495b424/tumblr_pohr6uYy3c1tvm82m_540.jpg)
However, I'd much prefer a super small keyboard. The goal of removing all these keys is to get a compact keyboard.
I'm basically looking for a slim 70% with two more buttons.
(Attachment Link)
I was also wondering if it is possible to have a hot swap for this keyboard? I'm going to want to play with the switches a lot :)
I love the Tenkeyless and function rows missing. This is exactly what I am looking for.
However, I'd much prefer a super small keyboard. The goal of removing all these keys is to get a compact keyboard.
I'm basically looking for a slim 70% with two more buttons.
(Attachment Link)
I was also wondering if it is possible to have a hot swap for this keyboard? I'm going to want to play with the switches a lot :)
This layout is wonderful, too bad i have too many boards
Can't wait for this one:)
I wonder how would it look with numpad added to the right. Still no F-row. Could be cool. Second version for round 2 :)
Will do WKL and HHKB renders soon!
Aye, as embarrassing as it is to see that I said that in February I think Ill do that during the next stream :)Will do WKL and HHKB renders soon!
Is this still on the cards?
Can't wait for this one:)
I wonder how would it look with numpad added to the right. Still no F-row. Could be cool. Second version for round 2 :)
Was it you who suggested it in the discord too? In any case, I'm very intrigued by the idea of a southpaw version, I will be working on it meanwhile ;D
In other news, cases are sent for anodizing! They should be sent to us next week! :D
I'm both thrilled and nervous at the same time!
Prototypes are done anodizing and shipping to us :)
(Rose Gold had a slight defect so it's sent back for re-anodizing)
I will be building and testing the Dark Grey case:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rpeQlXH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/R0ZGRei.jpg)
E-White case:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NWKrgz0.jpg)
I am very excited :D
Proceeding with arranging for gasket production asap now, while we also wait for the PCB production.
Prototypes are done anodizing and shipping to us :)
(Rose Gold had a slight defect so it's sent back for re-anodizing)
I will be building and testing the Dark Grey case:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rpeQlXH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/R0ZGRei.jpg)
E-White case:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NWKrgz0.jpg)
I am very excited :D
Proceeding with arranging for gasket production asap now, while we also wait for the PCB production.
I will be building and testing the Dark Grey case:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rpeQlXH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/R0ZGRei.jpg)
Prototypes are done anodizing and shipping to us :)Wow that looks amazing. I might actually be into the layout lol
(Rose Gold had a slight defect so it's sent back for re-anodizing)
I will be building and testing the Dark Grey case:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rpeQlXH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/R0ZGRei.jpg)
E-White case:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NWKrgz0.jpg)
I am very excited :D
Proceeding with arranging for gasket production asap now, while we also wait for the PCB production.
The proto photos look great. Will you be sending the protos out to be built before the GB.
Yes, hopefully! ;)
I will be building and testing the Dark Grey case:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rpeQlXH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/R0ZGRei.jpg)
This is awesome! Any plans on building it live on stream?
Pretty damn happy to see prototypes! I'll definitely be following this and if I don't hop on, I'll be telling a bunch of people about it. Would've loved to see the Arrow40 come to fruition though..Thank you so much for that!!
The edges and the top edge especially seem a bit think. I'm guessing there's a design reason for it however?
Mmm, since the goal of removing the top F keys is to gain a bit of wasted vertical space, I'd love to just keep chopping off as much of the edge as possible.
It feels like we lost the top row, but kept the space that is now a blank border with no keys.
I will be live on my twitch soon to open up the box with the prototype and preview it! No build just yet, the PCB is still in production (was put on hold due to the holidays).
www.twitch.tv/typelab
Hi!
Thank you for those who watched the stream!
And to make it clear, I did not build the Eclipse yet. Don't worry, you didn't miss that much.
The PCB and gaskets are not yet finished, so I only assembled it, put switches on the plate and keycaps on for cosmetic purpose only.
My immediate impression is that the case looks very good, the anodizing is flawless from what I could see and no big changes are needed. I will however have to test it with the PCB in place to see if another minor adjustment have to be made or not.
tl;dr
I'm super happy with it! :D
Here are photos!
https://imgur.com/a/TnDNZZM
Preview:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/unfRAVv.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QUIYjFt.jpg)
My immediate impression is that the case looks very good,
Ok, so I'm wondering if you're going to make a bunch of extra PCBs?Yes for sure. There will be extras :)
I feel like this is going to be a hot new layout and extra PCBs would allow for more boards using this layout and giving us more diversity. There's so little being done with this layout unfortunately, it would be great o see more cases using it.
Really a big fan of this layout, perfect blend between functionality and aesthetics. The proportions are perfect, gasket mount, clean design. I'm in!I'm so glad to hear that!!
If you want to keep the rose gold you can vote for it too, but I would like to know what color of the Eclipse you would like to have!
Vote here:
https://forms.gle/LKtH366pAyN2idfS6 (https://forms.gle/LKtH366pAyN2idfS6)
We will order samples and decide on the last color, while we wait for PCB finalization and gasket prototype production!
Thank you so much!
I really like the original lilac but voted for green. Almost opted to write in dark navy blue. I'll be excited to get this in any color, honestly. :thumb:
Preview:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/unfRAVv.jpg)
the result of us both imagining our dream keyboards and I'm confident it's gonna be a really pleasant and elegant looking keyboard!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4nkxubY.png)
Here's a little teaser render of what I want to do in the future :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4nkxubY.png)
Here's a little teaser render of what I want to do in the future :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4nkxubY.png)
How about a green Eclipse with Serika (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109969.0)? Team LotusOoooh wow. I must test that. Will try a render when I get a moment over the weekend!Show Image(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/12/04/PNDN/b9cd59d6-fdd2-4934-b5b6-8448ac5bf305-1967_Lotus_49-14.jpg?width=660&height=440&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)
Hi all!Don't be, there are like half dozen keyboards i want coming out in the next 2 months (dec/jan) , and they all cost 500.... I'm gonna be a broke mofo.
I'm sorry for the long wait.
I also just remembered that I need to do a render with a green case with Serika on, as promised!
What a 2020! Totally understandable that life intervenes and plans change. Thanks for sticking with this project! :thumb:I also just remembered that I need to do a render with a green case with Serika on, as promised!
No rush, Serika runs until 7 Jan (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109969.0;topicseen) :))
Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679988321157382168/787046032680288266/Eclipse_Green_Serika.jpg)
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Happy new year to everyone who's following the Geekhack thread!
As of right now we are in the queue at JLC for PCB prototypes. Certain parts were not in stock, which led to our order being cancelled in December so it had to be tuned a little bit and re-ordered.
Thank you for your continued display of patience :)
Sorry if it has been mentioned before but what plate materials are you considering on this? I just stumbled upon this and it looks very good. Looks like I will have to work some overtime the next weeks for this one :DNo worries!
NE 3-1-3 split SB avail?
Hello, sorry for the question again but will there be an hot swap version? And any idea when the GB starts? :DThe hotswap is in process of being designed. We should be able to offer it as an option yes *crosses fingers*
The hotswap is in process of being designed. We should be able to offer it as an option yes *crosses fingers*You are gonna make it real easy for me to rec this to my friends who have garbo hotswap boards and want something that's a solid step up without going fully into the deep end, and bless you for it.
Any update on a timeline for GB start?As soon as we have confirmed the quality of the prototype, we will have a better idea for the timeline of this! :)
Is there a general price point? Looks super interesting but I want to make sure it will be in my price point before I get my hopes up.
Is there a general price point? Looks super interesting but I want to make sure it will be in my price point before I get my hopes up.The goal is somewhere along the lines of $350-400 :)
I will be streaming this sometime next week :)
Thank you everyone!
Actually. Scratch that. I already received the parts :D
Build stream will likely happen tomorrow, Saturday 02/13
https://www.twitch.tv/TypeLab
Has the number and vendor finalized?
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Good morning :D
I want to ask what do yout think the group buy will start? I dont want to know an exact date only an estimate 2 weeks 8 weeks an half year :D?
O.K. sounds great thanks for the answer. I have another stupid question. This whole Group buy thing is new for me. The price is not interesting for me 400 or 500 is not the problem. My problem is how difficult is it to get one of these boards? Is 150 enough to get one on the first day or is this like the AMD or Nvida Graphic Cards and they are gone in seconds? ;)Honestly I think it should be fine! It’s mainly only the hype boards by Keycult, Smith
I will be building a second prototype on stream tomorrow! Tuesday 20:00 GMT+1 @ https://www.twitch.tv/p0esjuh/
I just found this board and it looks absolutely perfect to me.Best place, that has the most frequent updates, is the discord link in the OP
Is there a notification we can sign up for, so I don't miss when the group by starts? Or should I just keep checking back to this thread?
Oh Boy, looking fine with those bezels.
Oh Boy, looking fine with those bezels.A little too small if you ask me.... 3" bezels are go home I say! :cool:
Will this be an unlimited GB, FCFS or raffle?
I'm still not sure about the extent of people who actually will buy the case when it is ready for GB.
Well, whichever method you end up using I’m almost 100% certain I’ll be crossing my fingers hoping I get one. Love this board and layout.
I hope this will be unlimited GB, recently i've search board like this. cygnus not quite my style but this board is my dream.all of this is answered in the discord.
just asking some silly question, how about the rough price for the kit? thanks.
What a beautiful board, can't wait for the group buy. I really do hope it'll be unlimited group buy since I really want this board but I've never had success with fcfs and raffles.
I hope this will be unlimited GB, recently i've search board like this. cygnus not quite my style but this board is my dream.
just asking some silly question, how about the rough price for the kit? thanks.
Mekanisk as vendor?
Prototypist for the UK vendor please.
Prototypist for the UK vendor please.
I would prefer mykeyboard.eu, more reliable and known shop, not some hobbyist site.
Hey, I asked about it on discord, but nobody answered.
Is RGB still possible for hotswap pcb?
Prototypist for the UK vendor please.
Some pictures :)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/03bec6b0165a86b10889227f6810aa6c.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/e3752e96306d291c58dfb51869a4f4df.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/d2663db08811037ffcd4ac1c3955bfc2.jpg)
ok I have to say it...those renders are fire
100% positive they’re not, made these pictures myself :PSome pictures :)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/03bec6b0165a86b10889227f6810aa6c.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/e3752e96306d291c58dfb51869a4f4df.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210226/d2663db08811037ffcd4ac1c3955bfc2.jpg)ok I have to say it...those renders are fire
If you're referring to these, I don't think those are renders
I’m such a sucker for seamless case design. I’m not even usually into TKL but not having the F row just makes it that much more attractive to me. I’m probably in
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...what.I’m such a sucker for seamless case design. I’m not even usually into TKL but not having the F row just makes it that much more attractive to me. I’m probably in
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I'm not sure.. isnt F-row the part of the board, why you wanna have a tkl?
Any news? Hope to get one from GB :thumb:
Any news? Hope to get one from GB :thumb:
We are gathering quotes and setting up the details for the GB :)
I will also be testing a new and improved gasket next week! ;D
God damn raffles!!! NO!!!!!! Lol
If there's goin be a R2, why not make a waiting list based off the people who singed up for the R1 raffle and lucked out? Give then the right of first refusal?
So if 250 people sign up for R1, the 100 people who missed out would be guaranteed one in R2, if they want.
I guess it only matters if r2 is as limited.
Oh, and was their a price estimate? i could not find one after quickly looking.
I agree as well. I have terrible luck with raffle GBsGod damn raffles!!! NO!!!!!! Lol
If there's goin be a R2, why not make a waiting list based off the people who singed up for the R1 raffle and lucked out? Give then the right of first refusal?
So if 250 people sign up for R1, the 100 people who missed out would be guaranteed one in R2, if they want.
I guess it only matters if r2 is as limited.
Oh, and was their a price estimate? i could not find one after quickly looking.
Definitely agree.
2 days to go and no price details?There was an announcement earlier today on the discord that said: "Minor update: Quotation received :slight_smile: Crunching numbers up next!"
How do we sign up for the raffle?
Will there be a link posted here on the 31st?
While we wait for the raffle system to be set up, have a look at this assembly video I just put together :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIrRSaDjCYc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIrRSaDjCYc)
While we wait for the raffle system to be set up, have a look at this assembly video I just put together :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIrRSaDjCYc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIrRSaDjCYc)
just wanted to compliment you. finally a nice looking board in EU.. and someone like me that uses ANSI hahaha..
i like the layout it's something diff something i don't see everywhere.. i like that it's going to be happening on mykeyboard.eu
i think i'm a bit late to the party and i still need to read all the comments.. chocked me when i saw 12 pages hahaha..
i also think that more space between the arrow cluster .. i mean the sides are thicker. The design of the board is all about THICK nice sexy clean design.
At least that's what i see. i don't know if you made a render of how thick you can get that part .. need to read all the history.
Greetings from The Netherlands..
I was picked for the raffle and i didn't know the email i gave was suppose to be for paypal as well so who do i contact to give the proper paypal email? I don't want to miss the window after being pickedHello! Don’t worry :) Email contact@mykeyboard.eu with your details and we will sort it out!