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Title: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 21 April 2016, 22:03:59
Hey guys, thanks for all the support the past 2 rounds. Sold out of majority of options sooner than expected, so that's why R3 came up ahead of schedule! :)

R3 should also be a quick one, with fulfillment scheduled for mid end of June. I've also gotten a bunch of 4 pin RGB LEDs custom made in waterclear that are low profile that do not interfere with Cherry profile keycaps! The goal is to push more aftermarket 4-pin RGB LED PCBs in the wild. 

Order Zealios here>>> http://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/zealio
Order 4 pin RGB LEDs here>>> https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/4-pin-rgb-led-through-hole




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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 21 April 2016, 22:04:22
Reserved for updates.

April 21, 2016
GB Opens!

May 31, 2016
Switches under production

June 13, 2016
Manufacturing complete, Packing

June 21, 2016
Switches shipped by Gateron

June 24, 2016
Switches received. Packing.

June 29, 2016
Update regarding Canada Post strike happening on July 2, 2016. Only affects international customers that chose "Canada Post Int'l 6-10 Business Day" shipping option.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81520.msg2208429#msg2208429

June 30, 2016
Everything shipped, minus the remaining 22 orders via Canada Post. Thanks for joining the GB folks<3

July 3, 2016
Remaining 22 orders were shipped as the strike hasn't officially started.

Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Fri, 22 April 2016, 06:41:15
Well, there goes my wallet again.

Also, thank you for the awesome support.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: xondat on Fri, 22 April 2016, 07:06:08
A lot sooner than expected, thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: GiveCandyy on Fri, 22 April 2016, 07:28:13
R3 already? that was very, very quick. gotta get dem zeals
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: ika on Fri, 22 April 2016, 07:37:07
No changes from R2 to R3?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Phenix on Fri, 22 April 2016, 09:14:15
Is it also possible to buy just the stems?/if so how. Much?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: ccarlitos2 on Fri, 22 April 2016, 10:42:45
What pcbs support the 4pin RGB?


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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Saiph on Fri, 22 April 2016, 10:47:07
No changes from R2 to R3?
Ya, he mentioned there's no changes somewhere else. This round is to keep up with the demand since R2 extras sold out so quickly.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 22 April 2016, 11:07:33
No changes from R2 to R3?

No changes this round.

Is it also possible to buy just the stems?/if so how. Much?

Sorry, but stems are not being sold separately.

What pcbs support the 4pin RGB?


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There are a few makers designing their own PCBs atm, one is open source'd and posted here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81026.0
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: krisst on Fri, 22 April 2016, 11:22:43
Thanks Zeal. Just bought more to prepare for VE.A, at least that's the plan. Or I could feelios the filco...
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Elrick on Fri, 22 April 2016, 19:10:52
Or I could feelios the filco...


Do the Filco, we want to see that  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: empnero on Fri, 22 April 2016, 20:59:13
Wow, just used my R2's and R3 is here already.Unfortunately I already have like 400 other types switches laying around or bundled with kits. So I think I have to have some self control for a change.

Maybe only 100 or so. I should get one pack if 100 67's to try. I only had 65s last time and loved them, but would like to try the 67s. Oh maybe 78's too, probably should try those out. Zeal's description of similar force with cusioned bottom sounds nice. Just a hundred of each. No more than 300 all together between the two. Unless I get more 65s, but 400 total is where I draw the line. Couldn't do more than 450. See, I have discipline.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: popkorn62 on Fri, 22 April 2016, 21:12:53
dis too fast
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: feralfoo on Sat, 23 April 2016, 01:21:11
(http://www.manaleak.com/mtguk/files/2014/03/shut-up-and-take-my-money-Pikachu.jpg)

78g for my future ergodox  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: LunarisDream on Sat, 23 April 2016, 09:03:17
dis too fast
same tbh
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Jin on Sat, 23 April 2016, 09:43:29
zealios..... i want it but ETA is June......
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Elrick on Sat, 23 April 2016, 22:48:38
zealios..... i want it but ETA is June......


Didn't you know yet, that time really flies here on Geekhack Central  :thumb: .

The receival period shall arrive sooner than you think........
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: mastermachetier on Mon, 25 April 2016, 17:02:32
So you are telling me these are compatible with the 4 pin leds ?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 25 April 2016, 17:20:31
So you are telling me these are compatible with the 4 pin leds ?

That's correct. The 4 pin RGB LED listing shows them inserted inside. :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: myotherteeshirt on Mon, 25 April 2016, 22:30:53
Hey zeal, I put 65g zealios Inn my orbweaver, and they seem to 'catch' a little when I bottom out - is this an issue with the R1s that are rectified with R2 or can I fix it with lube?

I don't have this issue with the blackwidow, maybe because I mainly use the orbweaver for gaming and the blackwidow  for typing?

It seems to only happen if the following two conditions are met:
1. Your switches are installed LED side "up" (facing away from you)
2. You bottom out heavily

I'm not exactly sure which part is touching that causes that slight feel at the bottom, but some people have reported that it goes away after some wear in. Most custom keyboards have the LED facing down, so it isn't an issue for a fair amount of builders.

Hey Zeal - would these LEDs help with (reduce) the catching?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 25 April 2016, 22:44:33
Hey zeal, I put 65g zealios Inn my orbweaver, and they seem to 'catch' a little when I bottom out - is this an issue with the R1s that are rectified with R2 or can I fix it with lube?

I don't have this issue with the blackwidow, maybe because I mainly use the orbweaver for gaming and the blackwidow  for typing?

It seems to only happen if the following two conditions are met:
1. Your switches are installed LED side "up" (facing away from you)
2. You bottom out heavily

I'm not exactly sure which part is touching that causes that slight feel at the bottom, but some people have reported that it goes away after some wear in. Most custom keyboards have the LED facing down, so it isn't an issue for a fair amount of builders.

Hey Zeal - would these LEDs help with (reduce) the catching?

It's not really the LEDs catching, more so the orientation of the switch. A bit of lube generally fixes what you were experiencing.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: myotherteeshirt on Mon, 25 April 2016, 23:19:56

It's not really the LEDs catching, more so the orientation of the switch. A bit of lube generally fixes what you were experiencing.

That's interesting. Which part is causing the catch and where would i have to apply lube to fix this?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 26 April 2016, 01:05:43

It's not really the LEDs catching, more so the orientation of the switch. A bit of lube generally fixes what you were experiencing.

That's interesting. Which part is causing the catch and where would i have to apply lube to fix this?

That I haven't figured out yet. :/ I do know that lubing the legs and the top part of the legs (rectangular area) reduce the feel you experienced, which eventually wears in over the course of a week-month.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 26 April 2016, 10:28:40
I wonder about the RGBs... I don't actually have a PCB to install the switches I'm ordering on yet, but at the same time I don't know of a good board supporting RGBs yet.
Any tips? I need TMK and compatible with Pok3r cases and ANSI 60% layout, but otherwise I am wide open. Don't need a plate, since I'm using a really thick metal case, but if the board supports the ANSI layout any plate should fit either way.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Data on Tue, 26 April 2016, 10:56:41
It would be totes amazeballs if the Input Club K-Type supported these Zealios with RGB LEDs.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Phenix on Tue, 26 April 2016, 11:36:42
really thick metal case

What case are you using?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 26 April 2016, 11:38:20
This one...
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/60-keyboard-case

I have no idea what it's called. Let's just call it Steve.

Steve is red :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: dragonpower2000 on Thu, 28 April 2016, 08:47:06
Yo! zeal, how do yoou get the leds to work, if it is as simple as conecting them together and then just putting 4 cables into the teensy, otherwise maybe not...
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 28 April 2016, 19:05:05
Yo! zeal, how do yoou get the leds to work, if it is as simple as conecting them together and then just putting 4 cables into the teensy, otherwise maybe not...

You'll definitely need a few controllers that are more powerful than the teensy if you were to build a hand wired 4pin RGB keyboard...It would also require some serious tidiness!

As of right now, there are very few 4pin RGB PCBs out in the wild. Majorit of them come from "gaming keyboards" with a few 60% and 100% ones in China. Hoping that this year will change and we see more 4 pin RGB LED PCBs.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 28 April 2016, 19:17:20
You'll definitely need a few controllers that are more powerful than the teensy if you were to build a hand wired 4pin RGB keyboard...It would also require some serious tidiness!

Well, it's kind of possible with a Teensy, if you use LED driver ICs to handle the LED matrix.

As of right now, there are very few 4pin RGB PCBs out in the wild. Majorit of them come from "gaming keyboards" with a few 60% and 100% ones in China. Hoping that this year will change and we see more 4 pin RGB LED PCBs.

Zeal stocking these RGB LEDs has inspired me to work on some PCBs to support them. Unfortunately, they cause conflicts for overlapping switch footprints, i.e. supporting winkey and winkeyless layouts on the same PCB. That wasn't really a problem for 2-pin LEDs.


Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: dragonpower2000 on Fri, 29 April 2016, 04:26:13
Yo! zeal, how do yoou get the leds to work, if it is as simple as conecting them together and then just putting 4 cables into the teensy, otherwise maybe not...

You'll definitely need a few controllers that are more powerful than the teensy if you were to build a hand wired 4pin RGB keyboard...It would also require some serious tidiness!

As of right now, there are very few 4pin RGB PCBs out in the wild. Majorit of them come from "gaming keyboards" with a few 60% and 100% ones in China. Hoping that this year will change and we see more 4 pin RGB LED PCBs.

any links to nay pcbs avavible right now?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 29 April 2016, 06:44:39
You'll definitely need a few controllers that are more powerful than the teensy if you were to build a hand wired 4pin RGB keyboard...It would also require some serious tidiness!

Well, it's kind of possible with a Teensy, if you use LED driver ICs to handle the LED matrix.

As of right now, there are very few 4pin RGB PCBs out in the wild. Majorit of them come from "gaming keyboards" with a few 60% and 100% ones in China. Hoping that this year will change and we see more 4 pin RGB LED PCBs.

Zeal stocking these RGB LEDs has inspired me to work on some PCBs to support them. Unfortunately, they cause conflicts for overlapping switch footprints, i.e. supporting winkey and winkeyless layouts on the same PCB. That wasn't really a problem for 2-pin LEDs.
Because of the lack of space?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: MOZ on Fri, 29 April 2016, 07:20:44
I would not recommend a 4-pin RGB hand wired project, this is because it would be crazy to handle. If you want RGB and handwired, then use those WS2812B strips, each of those LEDs has an incorporated controller already to handle the the colors.

You could have all the LEDs connected to 4 pins on the Teensy, this will however allow you top have only one color for all the LEDs as there is no way to address the LEDs individually.

Products using 4 pin RGB LEDs handle the addressing and setting the value for each RGB channel using,
1. Individual controllers for each LED, like the WS2811 and then just chain the output from one LED controller to the next one's input. So only one pin goes from main MCU to the first LED controller.
2. Single or multiple dedicated LED controllers, depending on LEDs supported by controller and number of LEDs in use, eg IS31FL3732 supports upto 32 RGB and connecting each channel from the RGB in a matrix to the controller. The controller can communicate with the main MCU via I2C/serial/etc depending on IC.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tkpresent on Fri, 29 April 2016, 08:42:16
Hi Zeal, do you have any GB plan for Zealios linear switches?
I know the purple is great but I'm a big fan of linears.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 29 April 2016, 15:48:36
Hi Zeal, do you have any GB plan for Zealios linear switches?
I know the purple is great but I'm a big fan of linears.

The demand isn't there for linears. :/ I still have a few hundred remaining 67g Linear Zealios on my site.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tkpresent on Fri, 29 April 2016, 22:51:18
Hi Zeal, do you have any GB plan for Zealios linear switches?
I know the purple is great but I'm a big fan of linears.

The demand isn't there for linears. :/ I still have a few hundred remaining 67g Linear Zealios on my site.

I agree with that the demand isn't that much.
I'm pretty hesitating with linear and purple ones. ;D
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Wilba on Fri, 29 April 2016, 23:44:07
Zeal stocking these RGB LEDs has inspired me to work on some PCBs to support them. Unfortunately, they cause conflicts for overlapping switch footprints, i.e. supporting winkey and winkeyless layouts on the same PCB. That wasn't really a problem for 2-pin LEDs.
Because of the lack of space?

When switches overlap (for handling winkey/winkeyless, etc.) the 2-pin LED pads may only overlap on one pad, so you can just swap the orientation of the LED. When it's 4-pins, they may overlap on two pads. The same trick of swapping the LED orientation doesn't work as well. You end up with a blue cathode pin in a pad intended for a green cathode. It's not impossible, just messier to deal with - solder bridges to switch the pad's connection in the matrix, or firmware customization based on the key layout.
 
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: dsm_mike on Sat, 30 April 2016, 00:49:04
Any plans for clicky switches in the future?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 30 April 2016, 01:05:04
Any plans for clicky switches in the future?

Idea has been scrapped for the time being due to cost issues. There is a mod you can do which I call "Zealiostotles" which uses Aristotle stems inside Zealio housings. The tactile bump is very satisfying, and the click is super crisp.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: TeeBaginDragon on Sat, 30 April 2016, 20:29:42
Hi guys, I am pretty new to the mechanical keyboard world and have a question on these switches.  In the future I plan to get a hot swappable keyboard and want to put some Zealios in it; that being the case, do I need to buy the PBC mount or plate mount switches?  Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 30 April 2016, 21:34:33
Hi guys, I am pretty new to the mechanical keyboard world and have a question on these switches.  In the future I plan to get a hot swappable keyboard and want to put some Zealios in it; that being the case, do I need to buy the PBC mount or plate mount switches?  Thanks!

They'll both work. You'll most likely have to cut off the extra plastic legs on PCB mounted switches, whereas Plate mounted won't need any modding.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: TeeBaginDragon on Sat, 30 April 2016, 23:40:13
Hi Zeal, thanks for the quick reply!  I'm assuming that taking the PBC legs off is a pretty easy process; just go at it with a razor blade and smooth it out after?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 30 April 2016, 23:57:21
Hi Zeal, thanks for the quick reply!  I'm assuming that taking the PBC legs off is a pretty easy process; just go at it with a razor blade and smooth it out after?

Flush cutters work best. :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: TeeBaginDragon on Sun, 01 May 2016, 20:04:53
Hi Zeal, thanks for the quick reply!  I'm assuming that taking the PBC legs off is a pretty easy process; just go at it with a razor blade and smooth it out after?

Flush cutters work best. :)

Ahh cool, thanks for the advice! I will be joining the GB later tonight; I'm excited for these!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Jedi on Sun, 01 May 2016, 23:54:04
I don't need this.  I don't need this.  I don't need this.
F**k it, I need this.

Zeal, does the 4pin LEDs work with the ErgoDox and does the ergodox support RGB?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: MOZ on Mon, 02 May 2016, 10:18:31
Zeal, does the 4pin LEDs work with the ErgoDox and does the ergodox support RGB?

Ergodox (Even the infinity) doesn't support RGB LEDs
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 02 May 2016, 13:38:22
can anyone give a description in the difference in feels between mounting zeals on a steel plate vs aluminum?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 02 May 2016, 13:44:02
can anyone give a description in the difference in feels between mounting zeals on a steel plate vs aluminum?

There's more to switch feels than just plate material. It also depends on how the plate is mounted.

General guideline is aluminum for tactile, steel for linear. That doesn't mean that you can't use different feeling switches in the other plates however.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Mon, 02 May 2016, 14:05:34
can anyone give a description in the difference in feels between mounting zeals on a steel plate vs aluminum?

There's more to switch feels than just plate material. It also depends on how the plate is mounted.

General guideline is aluminum for tactile, steel for linear. That doesn't mean that you can't use different feeling switches in the other plates however.

right. i know it's apples and oranges, just thought someone might have an invariable comparison. i've got a steel plate and an aluminum plate for Octagon V2, and i was basically considering zeals on aluminum, linears on steel. thanks for the input!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: spwath on Tue, 03 May 2016, 15:45:38
What do you think, would it be possible to take an RGB light strip, remove all the LED's, and solder these ones on in the switch?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Tue, 03 May 2016, 15:50:44
What do you think, would it be possible to take an RGB light strip, remove all the LED's, and solder these ones on in the switch?

I don't quite get what you want to do. Do you want to use the LED strip as a sort of matrix to control the in-switch RGB LED's? If yes this might be possible, but since the switches are already transparent you could just place the RGB strip under them and you have RGB backlight.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: a-c on Tue, 03 May 2016, 16:05:13
What do you think, would it be possible to take an RGB light strip, remove all the LED's, and solder these ones on in the switch?

I don't quite get what you want to do. Do you want to use the LED strip as a sort of matrix to control the in-switch RGB LED's? If yes this might be possible, but since the switches are already transparent you could just place the RGB strip under them and you have RGB backlight.

Works with regular Gateron's. Would work better with the clear Zealios. http://imgur.com/a/nSukI (http://imgur.com/a/nSukI)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: spwath on Tue, 03 May 2016, 19:49:13
What do you think, would it be possible to take an RGB light strip, remove all the LED's, and solder these ones on in the switch?

I don't quite get what you want to do. Do you want to use the LED strip as a sort of matrix to control the in-switch RGB LED's? If yes this might be possible, but since the switches are already transparent you could just place the RGB strip under them and you have RGB backlight.
Yeah, but i got the milky bottom zealio, so it wouldent work that well. I tested, it works OK, but not that bright
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Gengarfan on Fri, 06 May 2016, 00:06:18
Hey zeal, just wanted to know if I can add another 20 62g zealios and 80 78g zealios to my order? My order number is 3674. Thanks!

Edit: could I add 20 of the 65g plate mount as well?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: dsm_mike on Fri, 06 May 2016, 15:02:34
Any plans for clicky switches in the future?

Idea has been scrapped for the time being due to cost issues. There is a mod you can do which I call "Zealiostotles" which uses Aristotle stems inside Zealio housings. The tactile bump is very satisfying, and the click is super crisp.
Will you have the Aristotle switches back in stock soon, or should I look to scavange?
Thx
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 06 May 2016, 17:43:16
Hey zeal, just wanted to know if I can add another 20 62g zealios and 80 78g zealios to my order? My order number is 3674. Thanks!

Edit: could I add 20 of the 65g plate mount as well?

Would be best for you to re-place your order with all the switches checked-out at once. Will cancel and issue a refund for your order shortly after this post.

Any plans for clicky switches in the future?

Idea has been scrapped for the time being due to cost issues. There is a mod you can do which I call "Zealiostotles" which uses Aristotle stems inside Zealio housings. The tactile bump is very satisfying, and the click is super crisp.
Will you have the Aristotle switches back in stock soon, or should I look to scavange?
Thx

Will look at sourcing a few new old stock aristotles...They're getting harder to source as stock gets depleted.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Gengarfan on Fri, 06 May 2016, 20:07:11
Hey zeal, just wanted to know if I can add another 20 62g zealios and 80 78g zealios to my order? My order number is 3674. Thanks!

Edit: could I add 20 of the 65g plate mount as well?

Would be best for you to re-place your order with all the switches checked-out at once. Will cancel and issue a refund for your order shortly after this post.

Any plans for clicky switches in the future?

Idea has been scrapped for the time being due to cost issues. There is a mod you can do which I call "Zealiostotles" which uses Aristotle stems inside Zealio housings. The tactile bump is very satisfying, and the click is super crisp.
Will you have the Aristotle switches back in stock soon, or should I look to scavange?
Thx

Will look at sourcing a few new old stock aristotles...They're getting harder to source as stock gets depleted.

Thanks! Any idea how long it will be before the funds are back in my account?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 06 May 2016, 22:21:45
Hey zeal, just wanted to know if I can add another 20 62g zealios and 80 78g zealios to my order? My order number is 3674. Thanks!

Edit: could I add 20 of the 65g plate mount as well?

Would be best for you to re-place your order with all the switches checked-out at once. Will cancel and issue a refund for your order shortly after this post.

Any plans for clicky switches in the future?

Idea has been scrapped for the time being due to cost issues. There is a mod you can do which I call "Zealiostotles" which uses Aristotle stems inside Zealio housings. The tactile bump is very satisfying, and the click is super crisp.
Will you have the Aristotle switches back in stock soon, or should I look to scavange?
Thx

Will look at sourcing a few new old stock aristotles...They're getting harder to source as stock gets depleted.

Thanks! Any idea how long it will be before the funds are back in my account?

Usually within 2-4 business days. If paid via PayPal funds, it's immediate.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Tue, 10 May 2016, 12:56:55
Ordered! (again) Took the 78g leap!


Thanks Zeal! 
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: ileben on Tue, 10 May 2016, 21:20:32
Or I could feelios the filco...


Do the Filco, we want to see that  :thumb:

Here's mine
(http://i.imgur.com/Ai823hx.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: krisst on Wed, 11 May 2016, 03:02:38
Or I could feelios the filco...


Do the Filco, we want to see that  :thumb:

Here's mine
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Ai823hx.jpg)


Looking good. I am using a full size now. Only mech kb, so I might consider modding this filco after whitefox is completed.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: fuzzycuffs on Wed, 11 May 2016, 03:07:58
Are there *any* PCBs with 4pin RGB LED holes?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 11 May 2016, 04:18:14
Are there *any* PCBs with 4pin RGB LED holes?

There are a few "gaming" mass produced boards that use them.

Aftermarket PCBs for enthusiasts are currently being designed to support 4-pin RGB LEDs.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: GiveCandyy on Wed, 11 May 2016, 04:53:38
Or I could feelios the filco...


Do the Filco, we want to see that  :thumb:

Here's mine
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Ai823hx.jpg)



Which zealios did you use. I am contemplating on doing it to my filco.  :-[ Anyone know if the price of my pink filco would change if I zealio it? Was thinking of maybe selling it later.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: GiveCandyy on Wed, 11 May 2016, 04:56:01
such hard decisions.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tmk1207 on Wed, 11 May 2016, 05:51:07
Hi Zeal,

Please check your pm :D.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: ileben on Wed, 11 May 2016, 06:27:35
Or I could feelios the filco...


Do the Filco, we want to see that  :thumb:

Here's mine
Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/Ai823hx.jpg)



Which zealios did you use. I am contemplating on doing it to my filco.  :-[ Anyone know if the price of my pink filco would change if I zealio it? Was thinking of maybe selling it later.

I ordered 100 of 65g and 20 each of 62g and 67g. I did bottom alpha row 62g, middle row 65g, top row 67g, and the rest 65g for comparison. My final assessment is that the 65g is the most middle if the road, which could possibly be for whoever can't decide, but ultimately is also the least interesting switch to me. 62g is cool because it's so very tactile, yet so very light, so it would be great for gaming (for me personally), while 67g gives me similar feeling to typing on a 55g Topre but with the hard bottom out that I generally love in MX (when I type really fast, at slower speeds the difference is much more obvious). 67g is divine for typing.

On the other hand, my main issue with the switches is how wobbly they are, compared to Cherry. This diminishes the experience somewhat for me personally, so I still can't call it the endgame switch. If I could combine the solid stability of Cherry Brown with smoothness and tactility of Zealios, that would be the perfect switch for me.  Also, the bottom out is a little more muted than Cherry, I would guess because the cleartop plastic is softer and less sturdy than the opaque black one, but I'm undecided whether I actually prefer that or not.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sun, 15 May 2016, 08:51:36
I just decided that I'd like to add some lube to my order, do I just do it like last time, order them and write a note so you refund the shipping and ship it together with the other order or do you prefer a different way this time?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 15 May 2016, 15:49:12
I just decided that I'd like to add some lube to my order, do I just do it like last time, order them and write a note so you refund the shipping and ship it together with the other order or do you prefer a different way this time?

You can any of the following:

Place a lube order, mention your other order and I'll refund shipping
Send $10 to my email under the order confirmation, reference the lube for your order
I can cancel your current one and issue a full refund. You can then place your new updated order

Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 16 May 2016, 02:25:01
Quick update:

Just had a word with Gateron, and the completion of Zealios will be pushed back about 2 weeks, around the end of June instead of mid-June. There are seriously way too many vacation days in Asia...Dragon Boat Festival... *sigh*.
As always, I'll be placing my order shortly ahead of the GB end date to speed up production. Switch weight variants will then be capped based on the figures I've ordered. Don't wait til last moment to place your order, as your particular weight may be sold out!

Will also be visiting Gateron again early June and working on some new projects. Stay tuned™. Q3/Q4 2016 will be a wallethack year.

Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: pichu23 on Mon, 16 May 2016, 06:26:24
Quick update:

Just had a word with Gateron, and the completion of Zealios will be pushed back about 2 weeks, around the end of June instead of mid-June. There are seriously way too many vacation days in Asia...Dragon Boat Festival... *sigh*.
As always, I'll be placing my order shortly ahead of the GB end date to speed up production. Switch weight variants will then be capped based on the figures I've ordered. Don't wait til last moment to place your order, as your particular weight may be sold out!

Will also be visiting Gateron again early June and working on some new projects. Stay tuned™. Q3/Q4 2016 will be a wallethack year.

Transparent /Clear stabs?  :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Mon, 16 May 2016, 11:47:43
Which weight is everyone ordering? What does every one like? i currently use mx blues and i like the clickyness to them? Any insight would be great!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Mon, 16 May 2016, 12:08:27
Which weight has the strongest and most noticable "bump"?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 16 May 2016, 12:12:26
Which weight has the strongest and most noticable "bump"?

67g has the most defined bump, while 65g has a more "drawn-out" bump.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Mon, 16 May 2016, 12:44:41
Which weight has the strongest and most noticable "bump"?

67g has the most defined bump, while 65g has a more "drawn-out" bump.

Perfect Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Mon, 16 May 2016, 12:48:05
So i pretty much want to use this board for gaming such as CSGO and random other games which zealio would you recommend? the 78g intrigues me however im concerned about it being way to heavy.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 16 May 2016, 14:32:39
So i pretty much want to use this board for gaming such as CSGO and random other games which zealio would you recommend? the 78g intrigues me however im concerned about it being way to heavy.

65g for a good middle ground for gaming/typing, 67g if you prefer to feel more bump. It's all personal preference, and how hard you type.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Mon, 16 May 2016, 15:02:08
Thanks just ordered 80 67g and 10 78g!!! Cant wait i hope gateron picks up the pace! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: biocalves on Mon, 16 May 2016, 15:09:29
I see that some people are saying that Zealios tend to be a little wobbly compared to Cherry's and Gat's. Has anyone used switch stickers or Polycarbonate's from zennas' GB to see if it makes any difference?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 16 May 2016, 16:00:30
I see that some people are saying that Zealios tend to be a little wobbly compared to Cherry's and Gat's. Has anyone used switch stickers or Polycarbonate's from zennas' GB to see if it makes any difference?

The wobble is not caused by bad fitment between the housings. The fitment between the housings is even better than on Cherry switches imho, so that stickers would be useless.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: biocalves on Mon, 16 May 2016, 16:02:23
I see that some people are saying that Zealios tend to be a little wobbly compared to Cherry's and Gat's. Has anyone used switch stickers or Polycarbonate's from zennas' GB to see if it makes any difference?

The wobble is not caused by bad fitment between the housings. The fitment between the housings is even better than on Cherry switches imho, so that stickers would be useless.

Thanks for the clarification! Where is the supposed wobble coming from then?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 17 May 2016, 04:59:44
The only wobble I feel is due to using SA profile caps.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Gengarfan on Tue, 17 May 2016, 16:23:36
Hey Zeal, since you are doing the proxy for the Triviumtek Lustro would you be able to ship zealios and the case at the same time so I could save a bit on shipping?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 17 May 2016, 20:13:32
Hey Zeal, since you are doing the proxy for the Triviumtek Lustro would you be able to ship zealios and the case at the same time so I could save a bit on shipping?

Yes, that can be arranged. Place your order for the Zealios first, then once you've paid for the Lustro/Weaven R2, send me an email and reference your Order #. I'll then adjust the shipping invoice for the keyboard afterwards.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Antacs on Wed, 18 May 2016, 17:27:40
So i pretty much want to use this board for gaming such as CSGO and random other games which zealio would you recommend? the 78g intrigues me however im concerned about it being way to heavy.

65g for a good middle ground for gaming/typing, 67g if you prefer to feel more bump. It's all personal preference, and how hard you type.
Which bump is the most distinct compared to the 78g switch? That's what I have on my ErgoDox and want to try something different.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 18 May 2016, 19:51:22
So i pretty much want to use this board for gaming such as CSGO and random other games which zealio would you recommend? the 78g intrigues me however im concerned about it being way to heavy.

65g for a good middle ground for gaming/typing, 67g if you prefer to feel more bump. It's all personal preference, and how hard you type.
Which bump is the most distinct compared to the 78g switch? That's what I have on my ErgoDox and want to try something different.

67g has the most defined tactile bump of the 4 variants.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Bit_Agent on Sat, 21 May 2016, 20:05:24
Quote
Please order in multiples of 10 to make my life easier.

Multiples of 10 for your order total or is that per switch type? For example could I order 5x62g, 5x65g, 5x67g, and 5x78g for a total of 20 switches or would I have to order 10x of each for a total of 40 switches. I'm guessing it's the later but I thought I'd ask. I'd like to make a sampler pack for myself since there are no more R2 sampler packs available. Maybe there will be an R3 sampler kit that I can wait for instead?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 22 May 2016, 03:10:26
Quote
Please order in multiples of 10 to make my life easier.

Multiples of 10 for your order total or is that per switch type? For example could I order 5x62g, 5x65g, 5x67g, and 5x78g for a total of 20 switches or would I have to order 10x of each for a total of 40 switches. I'm guessing it's the later but I thought I'd ask. I'd like to make a sampler pack for myself since there are no more R2 sampler packs available. Maybe there will be an R3 sampler kit that I can wait for instead?

Would much prefer multiples of 10 per weight, but will still accept 20 switch orders.

Sampler pack will go up once the switches come in.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: onmybikedrunk on Sun, 22 May 2016, 13:48:18
Just built up my Leeku CPSQ with 65g Zealios.  Holy smokes!  This is by far the best typing experience I've had.  I have a set of 78g's on order for Round 3 and I'm stoked!  They'll be pared with my Duck Octagon V2 when it comes in...  I pound on my keyboard pretty hard so I'm excited for the tough bottom out.  But I just wanted to take a second and thank you Zeal for this amazing contribution.  I wish I would have taken the plunge with your switches earlier, as they're absolutely a pleasure to use.  I even have one on a keychain so I can click away when I'm out and about haha.  Thanks man!


Board here:
CPSQ on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/BCyxS)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Gengarfan on Sun, 22 May 2016, 13:55:42
Just built up my Leeku CPSQ with 65g Zealios.  Holy smokes!  This is by far the best typing experience I've had.  I have a set of 78g's on order for Round 3 and I'm stoked!  They'll be pared with my Duck Octagon V2 when it comes in...  I pound on my keyboard pretty hard so I'm excited for the tough bottom out.  But I just wanted to take a second and thank you Zeal for this amazing contribution.  I wish I would have taken the plunge with your switches earlier, as they're absolutely a pleasure to use.  I even have one on a keychain so I can click away when I'm out and about haha.  Thanks man!


Board here:
CPSQ on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/BCyxS)

Beautiful board! Can't wait to put mine in my ZZ96  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: jjnist on Wed, 25 May 2016, 00:12:26
Hey Zeal just wondering when the early buyers in this round can expect shipment? Middle of the month?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 25 May 2016, 02:14:25
Hey Zeal just wondering when the early buyers in this round can expect shipment? Middle of the month?

Will keep you posted once Gateron's getting closer to completing manufacturing. Rough estimate right now is later half of June to the end of June. In the past 2 buys, I've always fulfilled all the orders within 2 weeks, so you can be reassured that your order will be fulfilled promptly.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: maximm on Thu, 26 May 2016, 12:23:47
After playing around with the switches at home for a week i decided to go for 62g and 67g. Why anyone would like the almost linear 65g is beyond me but each to his own. The 67 has an amazing thump, and the 62g is so smooth it feels lighter than the Gateron brown. The brown feels like sand paper after using the 62g, but a lubed brown with 62g springs feels just as good or even better if you take into account the wobble the zealios come with. How it affects typing i dont know, since i have only tried one switch at a time in my hand from the sampler.

Go with the 67g or 62g. The 78g feels much like the 65g but with a bit more tactile feedback - pretty good, but not close to the 62/67 combo.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 26 May 2016, 12:59:05
After playing around with the switches at home for a week i decided to go for 62g and 67g. Why anyone would like the almost linear 65g is beyond me but each to his own. The 67 has an amazing thump, and the 62g is so smooth it feels lighter than the Gateron brown. The brown feels like sand paper after using the 62g, but a lubed brown with 62g springs feels just as good or even better if you take into account the wobble the zealios come with. How it affects typing i dont know, since i have only tried one switch at a time in my hand from the sampler.

Go with the 67g or 62g. The 78g feels much like the 65g but with a bit more tactile feedback - pretty good, but not close to the 62/67 combo.

To each their own, which is why these 4 switch weight variants are offered. :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tkpresent on Thu, 26 May 2016, 14:01:37
Just wondering when the deadline is...?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: krisst on Fri, 27 May 2016, 08:27:49
Just wondering when the deadline is...?

"Pre-order will be open until May 31, 2016 11:59:59pm PDT. Pre-order date subject to close earlier without notice. Estimated ship date from the factory is late June. Orders are fulfilled based on a first-to-order basis."

It is on the pre-order page. https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/zealio
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tkpresent on Fri, 27 May 2016, 10:46:45
Just wondering when the deadline is...?

"Pre-order will be open until May 31, 2016 11:59:59pm PDT. Pre-order date subject to close earlier without notice. Estimated ship date from the factory is late June. Orders are fulfilled based on a first-to-order basis."

It is on the pre-order page. https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/zealio

Oops, I missed it.
Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Pestik on Tue, 31 May 2016, 01:26:44
I'm pretty new to DIY keyboard stuff and this is probably a dumb question, but does the latest revision of the Planck keyboard kit from Massdrop support RGB LEDs? Still waiting for mine to arrive, looking forward to decking it out with Zealios (assuming I don't melt them by accident when trying to solder).
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: krisst on Tue, 31 May 2016, 03:41:35
I'm pretty new to DIY keyboard stuff and this is probably a dumb question, but does the latest revision of the Planck keyboard kit from Massdrop support RGB LEDs? Still waiting for mine to arrive, looking forward to decking it out with Zealios (assuming I don't melt them by accident when trying to solder).

In-switch RGB LEDs? Nope. You will need both switch and pcb to be able to support the 4 legs of the RGB LEDs. Zealios switch is able to support. The latest Planck pcb do not have the 4 pin holes required.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tkpresent on Wed, 01 June 2016, 11:31:23
Joined!
I ordered 67g with v3 Lube (Thick & Thin)!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: robbles on Wed, 01 June 2016, 12:34:50
My daily is a lubed and silenced HHKB, which I love. But I want to build a custom MX board with something slightly heavier. I'm not a heavy typist by any means, but lubed HHKB can feel a bit light at times. Recommendations for my situation? Will 62g feel similar in weight to a stock HHKB even though it has a higher resistance in grams? Thanks! Looking to build a Sentraq S60-X with HHKB layout.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 01 June 2016, 15:11:45
My daily is a lubed and silenced HHKB, which I love. But I want to build a custom MX board with something slightly heavier. I'm not a heavy typist by any means, but lubed HHKB can feel a bit light at times. Recommendations for my situation? Will 62g feel similar in weight to a stock HHKB even though it has a higher resistance in grams? Thanks! Looking to build a Sentraq S60-X with HHKB layout.

65g or 67g would be my recommendation. 65g for the long tactile bump, 67g for the cup rubber-ish bump feel.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: robbles on Fri, 03 June 2016, 18:49:09
Thanks! A co-worker let me use his board with Cherry Clears all day today and I decided to go with the 65g. Though the Topre feel of the 67g is tempting, I can't imagine using a switch any heavier than the Clear. It's going to be a rough month waiting for my Sentraq to ship from Massdrop.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: krisst on Fri, 03 June 2016, 19:47:03
Thanks! A co-worker let me use his board with Cherry Clears all day today and I decided to go with the 65g. Though the Topre feel of the 67g is tempting, I can't imagine using a switch any heavier than the Clear. It's going to be a rough month waiting for my Sentraq to ship from Massdrop.

You will be surprised that Zealios 67g feels lighter than cherry clears. Smoother travel does help.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 03 June 2016, 20:09:13
Thanks! A co-worker let me use his board with Cherry Clears all day today and I decided to go with the 65g. Though the Topre feel of the 67g is tempting, I can't imagine using a switch any heavier than the Clear. It's going to be a rough month waiting for my Sentraq to ship from Massdrop.

Zealios are rated for bottom out. MX Clears bottom out at 100g. 65g/67g is no where close to the weight of MX Clears :P
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: obj-c on Mon, 06 June 2016, 15:28:13
Are zealio switches wobbly with OEM profile keycaps?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Mon, 06 June 2016, 15:40:31
When is the GB ending I thought it was the 31st? Also is gateron behind at all?!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: graefeln on Mon, 06 June 2016, 15:46:37
When is the GB ending I thought it was the 31st? Also is gateron behind at all?!

Sent from my LG-H830 using Tapatalk

From ZealPC.net:

Quote
Pre-order will be open until June 20 11:59:59pm PDT. Pre-order date subject to close earlier without notice. Estimated ship date from the factory is late June. Orders are fulfilled based on a first-to-order basis.

Still about two weeks or so... probably because he is away until then.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Mon, 06 June 2016, 15:50:56
Oh ok can't wait!!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: robotmaxtron on Tue, 07 June 2016, 16:17:05
I'm so excited for these. The last of my GH60 components are making their way in and these will be the last thing to arrive.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 07 June 2016, 18:39:59
Hey guys,

Just returned from Gateron factory. Switches are about to be done and if all goes to plan, they should arrive roughly the same time I return back to Canada. :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Jeu on Tue, 07 June 2016, 20:32:19
Is the rumor true that these are pre-lubed? Read that somewhere but lube is sold separately so I find it hard to believe.  As a beginner in this crazy mech world should I opt for lube and do that myself?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: krisst on Tue, 07 June 2016, 21:25:17
Is the rumor true that these are pre-lubed? Read that somewhere but lube is sold separately so I find it hard to believe.  As a beginner in this crazy mech world should I opt for lube and do that myself?

Switchs are lubed very very lightly on certain points. Getting lube and do some hands on just makes them more custom to your likings. So it depends on you. Stock Zealios are perfectly usable.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Jeu on Tue, 07 June 2016, 21:41:13
Is the rumor true that these are pre-lubed? Read that somewhere but lube is sold separately so I find it hard to believe.  As a beginner in this crazy mech world should I opt for lube and do that myself?

Switchs are lubed very very lightly on certain points. Getting lube and do some hands on just makes them more custom to your likings. So it depends on you. Stock Zealios are perfectly usable.
Thanks for the info! I'll wait and see how they are per the image of Sir Zeal :cool:


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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: gaunt on Wed, 08 June 2016, 09:12:06
Is it possible to 'switch' (no pun intended) between the different Zealio versions simply by replacing the springs? I ordered the 62g version, but I'm afraid they may turn out lighter than I'd like. If so, would normal Cherry springs be enough, or are Zealio springs different?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: ctrlX on Wed, 08 June 2016, 09:25:09
Is the rumor true that these are pre-lubed? Read that somewhere but lube is sold separately so I find it hard to believe.  As a beginner in this crazy mech world should I opt for lube and do that myself?
I've installed both factory and self lubed Zealios. My opinion is that extra lube makes them even better. So good that I will actually desolder my factory lubed switches and replace with extra lubed.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 08 June 2016, 16:29:01
Is it possible to 'switch' (no pun intended) between the different Zealio versions simply by replacing the springs? I ordered the 62g version, but I'm afraid they may turn out lighter than I'd like. If so, would normal Cherry springs be enough, or are Zealio springs different?

Aftermarket springs will work in Zealios no problem.

Is the rumor true that these are pre-lubed? Read that somewhere but lube is sold separately so I find it hard to believe.  As a beginner in this crazy mech world should I opt for lube and do that myself?

Not really a rumor. The legs are factory lubed a bit, but nothing beats putting in the actual work to lube the stem and housing properly. :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: gaunt on Thu, 09 June 2016, 10:42:30
Is it possible to 'switch' (no pun intended) between the different Zealio versions simply by replacing the springs? I ordered the 62g version, but I'm afraid they may turn out lighter than I'd like. If so, would normal Cherry springs be enough, or are Zealio springs different?

Aftermarket springs will work in Zealios no problem.

Thanks, but what I actually meant was: if I replace the spring in my 62g Zealio with  a generic 78g Cherry spring, will my 62g Zealio become (virtually) identical to a 78g Zealio (save for slightly lighter colour of course)? In other words, are the springs in tactile Zealio switches all (except colour) that distinguishes between the different versions (62g vs 65g vs 67g vs 78g etc)?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 09 June 2016, 12:29:10
I think I'm going to use these with some QMX clips I have lying around.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 09 June 2016, 18:02:52
Is it possible to 'switch' (no pun intended) between the different Zealio versions simply by replacing the springs? I ordered the 62g version, but I'm afraid they may turn out lighter than I'd like. If so, would normal Cherry springs be enough, or are Zealio springs different?

Aftermarket springs will work in Zealios no problem.

Thanks, but what I actually meant was: if I replace the spring in my 62g Zealio with  a generic 78g Cherry spring, will my 62g Zealio become (virtually) identical to a 78g Zealio (save for slightly lighter colour of course)? In other words, are the springs in tactile Zealio switches all (except colour) that distinguishes between the different versions (62g vs 65g vs 67g vs 78g etc)?

There isn't a stock 78g Cherry spring, but if you do source an aftermarket one, the feel will all depend on how the spring is coiled, as different coil designs result in different feels.

I think I'm going to use these with some QMX clips I have lying around.
QMX Clips are a bit too tight for Gateron switches. And they're only for PCB mount builds...I may or may not be working on a better solution ;)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: gaunt on Fri, 10 June 2016, 04:39:22
Is it possible to 'switch' (no pun intended) between the different Zealio versions simply by replacing the springs? I ordered the 62g version, but I'm afraid they may turn out lighter than I'd like. If so, would normal Cherry springs be enough, or are Zealio springs different?

Aftermarket springs will work in Zealios no problem.

Thanks, but what I actually meant was: if I replace the spring in my 62g Zealio with  a generic 78g Cherry spring, will my 62g Zealio become (virtually) identical to a 78g Zealio (save for slightly lighter colour of course)? In other words, are the springs in tactile Zealio switches all (except colour) that distinguishes between the different versions (62g vs 65g vs 67g vs 78g etc)?

There isn't a stock 78g Cherry spring, but if you do source an aftermarket one, the feel will all depend on how the spring is coiled, as different coil designs result in different feels.

Alright, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: priyadi on Sun, 12 June 2016, 08:42:35
Any chance for clear stemmed zealios in the future? Clear stems should be able to improve light distribution even more. Clear housing is an improvement, clear stem is the logical next step forward  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Krustyboomer on Sun, 12 June 2016, 12:18:19
Picked me up some 67 & 78 switches for an unnamed as-yet to be determined TKL build!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 12 June 2016, 22:26:44
Any chance for clear stemmed zealios in the future? Clear stems should be able to improve light distribution even more. Clear housing is an improvement, clear stem is the logical next step forward  ;D

Not possible with POM. Any other material isn't as smooth.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Mon, 13 June 2016, 08:09:13
Zeal how is the order coming from gateron?!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Data on Tue, 14 June 2016, 20:31:11
Ordered +100 for my VE.A.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 16 June 2016, 06:32:12
Manufacturing complete, switches will ship out around the end of the week.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Thu, 16 June 2016, 08:39:05
That is awesome will we get tracking or anything?!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Thu, 16 June 2016, 09:20:30
That is awesome will we get tracking or anything?!

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I think he is talking about the switches being shipped out to him. 
But for your order you will get tracking when you went with DHL shipping, you won't get tracking with Canada Post though.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Thu, 16 June 2016, 09:50:27
Ok awesome!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: krisst on Thu, 16 June 2016, 10:46:43
Ordered +100 for my VE.A.

I hope is 78g ;D
I will be using that!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Tobi45 on Thu, 16 June 2016, 15:54:31
Any chance for clear stemmed zealios in the future? Clear stems should be able to improve light distribution even more. Clear housing is an improvement, clear stem is the logical next step forward  ;D

Not possible with POM. Any other material isn't as smooth.
Are you sure about that? Afaik Vortex translucent doubleshots are made from PBT and POM.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 16 June 2016, 15:57:15
Any chance for clear stemmed zealios in the future? Clear stems should be able to improve light distribution even more. Clear housing is an improvement, clear stem is the logical next step forward  ;D

Not possible with POM. Any other material isn't as smooth.
Are you sure about that? Afaik Vortex translucent doubleshots are made from PBT and POM.

Translucent =/= clear (transparent).
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: mind_funeral on Thu, 16 June 2016, 15:59:28
I want to add lube to my order I placed a few weeks ago.  Is that possible, Zeal?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 16 June 2016, 16:08:29
I want to add lube to my order I placed a few weeks ago.  Is that possible, Zeal?

PM'd.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 17 June 2016, 15:43:20
Thanks! A co-worker let me use his board with Cherry Clears all day today and I decided to go with the 65g. Though the Topre feel of the 67g is tempting, I can't imagine using a switch any heavier than the Clear. It's going to be a rough month waiting for my Sentraq to ship from Massdrop.

Zealios are rated for bottom out. MX Clears bottom out at 100g. 65g/67g is no where close to the weight of MX Clears :P

yeah, i was very surprised by just how much lighter the 65g are versus clears.  i wanted something closer to the midrange between browns and clears.  ordering a set of 78g switches this go round and i'll probably resell my 65g R2 switches.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: priyadi on Fri, 17 June 2016, 17:52:49
Translucent =/= clear (transparent).

Well, if transparent is not possible, then translucent stem in neutral color (white) is certainly the next best thing. Make it happen Zeal :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: mind_funeral on Sat, 18 June 2016, 10:45:19
I'd rather purple than white.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Sat, 18 June 2016, 10:58:06
Second

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: priyadi on Sat, 18 June 2016, 11:44:38
I'd rather purple than white.

Opaque stem concentrate light to one side of the switch. non neutral color adds tint to the light. Technically white translucent is the best stem color for lighting.

I'd say the tradition of using stem color to identify one switch type from another was made long ago when switch lighting was meant only for caps locks, scroll locks and num locks, and color distribution and neutrality were not important.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 18 June 2016, 22:51:09
The purple stem is a signature colour for Zealios. I don't plan on changing it anytime soon. I understand that translucent white is best for untinted lighting distribution, but in all reality, the MX design isn't the best when it comes to lighting uniformity anyways.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Sun, 19 June 2016, 01:31:48
Excuse me,
These switches are rated base off of "bottom out" force, so the 62g is actually light-er than Cherry Black (which has 60g actuation focrce), right?
I do like how heavy Cherry Black is, so which variant should I get? (a bit heavier than Cherry Black is fine)

I think I will wait for the next round, or I will buy the... erm... leftover ones.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 19 June 2016, 02:11:45
Excuse me,
These switches are rated base off of "bottom out" force, so the 62g is actually light-er than Cherry Black (which has 60g actuation focrce), right?
I do like how heavy Cherry Black is, so which variant should I get? (a bit heavier than Cherry Black is fine)

I think I will wait for the next round, or I will buy the... erm... leftover ones.

That's correct. Cherry MX Black bottoms out at ~80g, so all of the current Zealio offerings are lighter than MX Blacks. Can't really comment on which ones to recommend for you as switch preference is a subjective thing, and tactile switches are nothing like linears.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Sun, 19 June 2016, 02:26:38
Excuse me,
These switches are rated base off of "bottom out" force, so the 62g is actually light-er than Cherry Black (which has 60g actuation focrce), right?
I do like how heavy Cherry Black is, so which variant should I get? (a bit heavier than Cherry Black is fine)

I think I will wait for the next round, or I will buy the... erm... leftover ones.

That's correct. Cherry MX Black bottoms out at ~80g, so all of the current Zealio offerings are lighter than MX Blacks. Can't really comment on which ones to recommend for you as switch preference is a subjective thing, and tactile switches are nothing like linears.

The only tactile switch I have used is Brown switch, and I hardly feel any feedbacks at all so I don't like it. 

Just recently, I noticed that the "bump" of the Zealio / Cherry Clear switch is bigger than Brown and so the tactile feel is different as well, so I want to try out these. :D (I may go with 78g variant  ;D)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: priyadi on Sun, 19 June 2016, 03:08:23
The purple stem is a signature colour for Zealios. I don't plan on changing it anytime soon. I understand that translucent white is best for untinted lighting distribution, but in all reality, the MX design isn't the best when it comes to lighting uniformity anyways.

Those linear zealios have clear stems right? Do you still have some of them laying around? I want to see how clear stems affect light distribution. If you still have them I'd like to order some for myself.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 19 June 2016, 03:32:29
The purple stem is a signature colour for Zealios. I don't plan on changing it anytime soon. I understand that translucent white is best for untinted lighting distribution, but in all reality, the MX design isn't the best when it comes to lighting uniformity anyways.

Those linear zealios have clear stems right? Do you still have some of them laying around? I want to see how clear stems affect light distribution. If you still have them I'd like to order some for myself.

Yeah, they have the milky / semi-translucent white "clear" stem. I have installed 1.8mm white LEDs into them and they don't really help glow. All linear Zealios are sold out however.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Pieminister on Wed, 22 June 2016, 03:43:09
Sorry I am an idiot and were sitting on this for too long.
On the group buy page it says pre orders ended 2 days ago (https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/zealio)
I am hoping to get 100x 65g plate mounted switches for my upcoming ZZ96 and was wondering if I can still order. :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Deeree1867 on Wed, 22 June 2016, 03:58:07
Nothing speak volumes about typing experience like a pic full of purple stems
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 22 June 2016, 05:53:58
Sorry I am an idiot and were sitting on this for too long.
On the group buy page it says pre orders ended 2 days ago (https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/zealio)
I am hoping to get 100x 65g plate mounted switches for my upcoming ZZ96 and was wondering if I can still order. :cool:

I tend to keep the order open til switches arrive. Switches are currently in transit, and should arrive in 2-3days.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Pieminister on Wed, 22 June 2016, 14:47:46
Sorry I am an idiot and were sitting on this for too long.
On the group buy page it says pre orders ended 2 days ago (https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/zealio)
I am hoping to get 100x 65g plate mounted switches for my upcoming ZZ96 and was wondering if I can still order. :cool:

I tend to keep the order open til switches arrive. Switches are currently in transit, and should arrive in 2-3days.

Great! I was set to order and then I realised I had another mega noob question, so i apologise. I am making my first custom with these so I haven't got any experience.
I have heard you mention that the PLATE mounted 65g (milky bottom) are the most noob soldering friendly so I was hoping to get those.
I am just clarifying - The ZZ96 has a plate, so just to double check - that de-facto means the switches will be "plate mounted" and I will be OK with these?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Data on Wed, 22 June 2016, 14:53:56
Literally the only difference between "plate" and "PCB" mount switches is 2 little plastic legs on the bottom.  If you have a plate you don't need them, and they can be easily removed, but I'm willing to bet your PCB has holes for PCB-mount switches so in that case it absolutely doesn't matter which style you pick.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 22 June 2016, 15:44:43
If all goes to plan, switches should arrive tomorrow morning/afternoon.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Pieminister on Wed, 22 June 2016, 16:00:48
Literally the only difference between "plate" and "PCB" mount switches is 2 little plastic legs on the bottom.  If you have a plate you don't need them, and they can be easily removed, but I'm willing to bet your PCB has holes for PCB-mount switches so in that case it absolutely doesn't matter which style you pick.
Thank you! I guess I should be fine then with the plate mounted ones!
I get that the PCB mount option is the safest - because you can use it on either plate of PCB.
I was just hoping to get the "n00b" switches - i.e. those more tolerant to a beginners soldering efforts which I think are exclusively the 65 milky bottom PLATE mount version. That is why I haven't just gotten the PCB version already.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Data on Thu, 23 June 2016, 06:08:33
Literally the only difference between "plate" and "PCB" mount switches is 2 little plastic legs on the bottom.  If you have a plate you don't need them, and they can be easily removed, but I'm willing to bet your PCB has holes for PCB-mount switches so in that case it absolutely doesn't matter which style you pick.
Thank you! I guess I should be fine then with the plate mounted ones!
I get that the PCB mount option is the safest - because you can use it on either plate of PCB.
I was just hoping to get the "n00b" switches - i.e. those more tolerant to a beginners soldering efforts which I think are exclusively the 65 milky bottom PLATE mount version. That is why I haven't just gotten the PCB version already.

The milky bottom Zealios are very nice.  I've used them in 1 build already and planning to use them again soon.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: krisst on Thu, 23 June 2016, 10:23:23
If all goes to plan, switches should arrive tomorrow morning/afternoon.

That's good news. At this rate, I would have received both R2 and R3 Zealios before I received the whitefox... Ah well. Next will be getting some Zeal stabbies.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: TheVengeance on Fri, 24 June 2016, 09:52:36
If all goes to plan, switches should arrive tomorrow morning/afternoon.


Awesome, thanks for the update.

More importantly, you got those Green Tea KitKats in stock?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: henkdevries013 on Sat, 25 June 2016, 15:55:14
Did everything arrive?  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 25 June 2016, 18:31:37
If all goes to plan, switches should arrive tomorrow morning/afternoon.


Awesome, thanks for the update.

More importantly, you got those Green Tea KitKats in stock?
I do, however chances are they'll melt while in the truck during delivery to whichever US state.

Did everything arrive?  ;D

Yes, I'm packing/shipping orders as we speak. I've gotta get all the Canadian/Int'l small packet orders out asap too before Canada Post goes on strike July 2nd. July 1st is also a holiday here... >.<

Also upgrading Ontario/Quebec, etc (east coast) Canada orders to Xpresspost for free if they chose Expedited so switches arrive before July 1st. Don't want your guys' orders stuck at a sorting centre for weeks.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: breitling on Sat, 25 June 2016, 18:42:11
If all goes to plan, switches should arrive tomorrow morning/afternoon.


Awesome, thanks for the update.

More importantly, you got those Green Tea KitKats in stock?
I do, however chances are they'll melt while in the truck during delivery to whichever US state.

Did everything arrive?  ;D

Yes, I'm packing/shipping orders as we speak. I've gotta get all the Canadian/Int'l small packet orders out asap too before Canada Post goes on strike July 2nd. July 1st is also a holiday here... >.<

Also upgrading Ontario/Quebec, etc (east coast) Canada orders to Xpresspost for free if they chose Expedited so switches arrive before July 1st. Don't want your guys' orders stuck at a sorting centre for weeks.

Ugh oh man forgot about the canadapost strike.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Sat, 25 June 2016, 18:57:48
Will we get tracking as they get sent out? And when will you be shipping the ones to the states?

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 25 June 2016, 19:14:02
Will we get tracking as they get sent out? And when will you be shipping the ones to the states?

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Everyone will receive a shipping notification, and if tracking is available, will accompany the email. DHL packages are also being packed over the weekend. Just working on fulfilling the earliest orders first.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: TheVengeance on Sun, 26 June 2016, 01:33:36
Nice one zeal, I definately wasn't am early order but am all the way over in the UK so fingers crossed you get through them all. Got a board waiting to be built :)

Zeal should manage people's ks campaigns, appears when he states a timescale he means it.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Sun, 26 June 2016, 07:29:34
Thanks Zeal for making sure we get our switches on time! I wasn't even aware of the Canada Post strike on July 2nd....

Can't wait to finally be able to try out these switches! :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: PurpleURP on Sun, 26 June 2016, 09:58:37
Thanks for setting this up.  I'm in
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: robotmaxtron on Mon, 27 June 2016, 01:38:43
Zeal I just wanted to make a special mention of how thankful I am that my first GB experience was such a positive one. Thanks again for putting this together and keeping everybody in such good communication. Looking forward to assembling my boards whenever the switches make their way down here.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 27 June 2016, 10:08:09
Just recieved shipping confirmation for #3716, I sadly can't accept it myself since I'm currently waiting on my flight to Las Vegas (Thank you Granny for hopefully accepting it for me). But I want to thank you for yet another great Groupbuy with outstanding individual communication. I can't wait to see what comes next.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: TheVengeance on Tue, 28 June 2016, 01:20:08
Just recieved shipping confirmation for #3716, I sadly can't accept it myself since I'm currently waiting on my flight to Las Vegas (Thank you Granny for hopefully accepting it for me). But I want to thank you for yet another great Groupbuy with outstanding individual communication. I can't wait to see what comes next.
Ooo guess that means mine must also be soon. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: BDhoel on Tue, 28 June 2016, 04:06:32
Hi Zeal, I gotta ask a question regarding international shipping. Are you going to provide the tracking code aswell?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 28 June 2016, 04:30:17
Hi Zeal, I gotta ask a question regarding international shipping. Are you going to provide the tracking code aswell?

Only shipments via DHL have a tracking #. Canada Post Int'l Air does not have a tracking #, but packages generally arrive within 6-10 business days.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: rondg on Tue, 28 June 2016, 06:35:22
In R2, DHL delivered the switches to my country. Does this mean that international orders are not delivered by DHL anymore?

Hi Zeal, I gotta ask a question regarding international shipping. Are you going to provide the tracking code aswell?

Only shipments via DHL have a tracking #. Canada Post Int'l Air does not have a tracking #, but packages generally arrive within 6-10 business days.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: mind_funeral on Tue, 28 June 2016, 07:20:31
How long is the strike?  I'm an American and our strikes usually just end with big corporations firing everyone and hiring new people at lower wages  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 28 June 2016, 08:23:09
In R2, DHL delivered the switches to my country. Does this mean that international orders are not delivered by DHL anymore?


DHL is always offered for int'l orders. Small orders of ~100 switches will show the cheaper untracked Canada Post shipping option.

How long is the strike?  I'm an American and our strikes usually just end with big corporations firing everyone and hiring new people at lower wages  :'(

No clue. The "strike" isn't even "confirmed", but we all know it's going to happen anyways.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: jjnist on Tue, 28 June 2016, 14:04:31
Switches made it. They feel lovely. Can't wait for my first zealios build ;D Thanks again Zeal for the GB!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Tue, 28 June 2016, 14:11:17
In R2, DHL delivered the switches to my country. Does this mean that international orders are not delivered by DHL anymore?


DHL is always offered for int'l orders. Small orders of ~100 switches will show the cheaper untracked Canada Post shipping option.

How long is the strike?  I'm an American and our strikes usually just end with big corporations firing everyone and hiring new people at lower wages  :'(

No clue. The "strike" isn't even "confirmed", but we all know it's going to happen anyways.
Where do you live I want my switches!!!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Porkins on Tue, 28 June 2016, 14:24:53
In R2, DHL delivered the switches to my country. Does this mean that international orders are not delivered by DHL anymore?


DHL is always offered for int'l orders. Small orders of ~100 switches will show the cheaper untracked Canada Post shipping option.

How long is the strike?  I'm an American and our strikes usually just end with big corporations firing everyone and hiring new people at lower wages  :'(

No clue. The "strike" isn't even "confirmed", but we all know it's going to happen anyways.
Where do you live I want my switches!!!

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I received mine about 30 minutes ago and I'm in Austin Texas.


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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Tue, 28 June 2016, 14:25:31
In R2, DHL delivered the switches to my country. Does this mean that international orders are not delivered by DHL anymore?


DHL is always offered for int'l orders. Small orders of ~100 switches will show the cheaper untracked Canada Post shipping option.

How long is the strike?  I'm an American and our strikes usually just end with big corporations firing everyone and hiring new people at lower wages  :'(

No clue. The "strike" isn't even "confirmed", but we all know it's going to happen anyways.
Where do you live I want my switches!!!

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Did you receive tracking?!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Porkins on Tue, 28 June 2016, 14:26:50
In R2, DHL delivered the switches to my country. Does this mean that international orders are not delivered by DHL anymore?


DHL is always offered for int'l orders. Small orders of ~100 switches will show the cheaper untracked Canada Post shipping option.

How long is the strike?  I'm an American and our strikes usually just end with big corporations firing everyone and hiring new people at lower wages  :'(

No clue. The "strike" isn't even "confirmed", but we all know it's going to happen anyways.
Where do you live I want my switches!!!

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I received mine about 30 minutes ago and I'm in Austin Texas.


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Did you receive tracking?!

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I did. Yesterday or the day before.


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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: breitling on Tue, 28 June 2016, 15:57:16
Got my Zealios today! Glad I dodged the Canada Post Strike Bullet. Thanks Zeal for making sure they made it out before that happened.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: MajorKoos on Tue, 28 June 2016, 16:00:51
Got my Zealios today! Glad I dodged the Canada Post Strike Bullet. Thanks Zeal for making sure they made it out before that happened.

Same here - mine arrived this morning.
Thank you Zeal.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: boo on Tue, 28 June 2016, 19:18:50
Got notification to arrive this Thursday. My order number was #3983 for your reference. Good luck to everyone else!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: JDragon on Tue, 28 June 2016, 20:43:13
Got tracking for mine! Will DHL shipments to the US require signature?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Gengarfan on Tue, 28 June 2016, 21:47:49
Got tracking for mine! Will DHL shipments to the US require signature?

Got mine today and the guy did not ask for a signature.

Thank you for the switches zeal. I can't decide which ones are my favorite!
Title: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: nateth on Tue, 28 June 2016, 22:22:32
Inbound!!!! Thanks Henry!

Sincerely,
Nate Henry :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 28 June 2016, 22:22:38
Got tracking for mine! Will DHL shipments to the US require signature?

They used to have a pretty strict signature policy, but seems like the policy has changed. Will have to depend on your driver and how "safe" your neighbourhood is. If you want to be 100% sure, you could always sign a sheet of paper to leave parcel at door and tape the sheet of paper on your door. 
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: rand77 on Tue, 28 June 2016, 22:46:02
Thanks for quick fulfillment Zeal, my order is set to be delivered tomorrow in Ontario.     Another smooth GB from ZealPC :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Vypr on Tue, 28 June 2016, 22:51:12
Just got mines earlier today, looks like I'll have a busy weekend (hopefully) ;D
Thanks Zeal :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: JDragon on Wed, 29 June 2016, 00:57:35
Got tracking for mine! Will DHL shipments to the US require signature?

They used to have a pretty strict signature policy, but seems like the policy has changed. Will have to depend on your driver and how "safe" your neighbourhood is. If you want to be 100% sure, you could always sign a sheet of paper to leave parcel at door and tape the sheet of paper on your door.

Thanks for the info, sounds like that will be my plan.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 29 June 2016, 02:41:27
Crap, forgot to order PCBs... Bhiner, don't fail me now!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 29 June 2016, 09:16:49
DHL says my package arrived in germany today  ;D I won't be home until the 13th though  :(
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Wed, 29 June 2016, 09:23:54
Just got an update mine will be delivered today:)

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Wed, 29 June 2016, 09:34:15
Can I use standard 3mm leds with zealios?!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: krisst on Wed, 29 June 2016, 09:42:13
Can I use standard 3mm leds with zealios?!

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Yes, the switch is compatible, some keycaps however are not. Example cherry profile keycaps.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Wed, 29 June 2016, 09:43:06
What do you mean cherry profile? Like and keycap with an mx stem? Or cherry branded caps?

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: krisst on Wed, 29 June 2016, 09:49:08
What do you mean cherry profile? Like and keycap with an mx stem? Or cherry branded caps?

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There are more than 1 type of keycap profile. Take a look at the picture below. Cherry profile keycap have pretty low profile, so bigger sized LEDs will hit the bottom of the keycaps. Just make sure the keycaps you will be using do not have that issue.

(http://i.imgur.com/VEgUCmj.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Wed, 29 June 2016, 09:50:54
Gotcha thanks!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Data on Wed, 29 June 2016, 10:00:22
You should be OK if your LEDs are seated properly in the switch housing.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Wed, 29 June 2016, 10:02:47
Awesome!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Wed, 29 June 2016, 13:08:12
When it comes to soldering what type of solder is recommended? Also what wattage iron?!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Data on Wed, 29 June 2016, 13:32:43
Solder: 63/37 Sn-Pb is superior.

Wattage: Whatever melts your solder and doesn't destroy the work piece.  Tip and technique are more important.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Wed, 29 June 2016, 13:41:46
When it comes to soldering what type of solder is recommended? Also what wattage iron?!

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Is it important to have temp control or would I be fine with just say a 20 watt solder pencil

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: robbles on Wed, 29 June 2016, 15:32:35
Shipping confirmation received! Can't wait. ;D
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches // Custom Low Profile 4pin RGB LEDs (Order Now!)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 29 June 2016, 19:27:28
Update for Int'l orders (excluding USA). Please read.

Welp, I really tried my best. :( But I didn't get through shipping all the Canada Post Int'l orders before the Canada Post strike that's happening July 2nd. ~25 Int'l orders were dropped off at Canada Post today, those should still go out and leave Canada before July 1st (national holiday). Quick review shows ~20 or so currently affected orders that will be delayed due to the strike. If you had chosen the $10-12 shipping option via "Canada Post Int'l 6-10 business days" and would like to arrange for DHL shipping instead, please contact me via email or PM with your order #.

Items being shipped via DHL will still continue, should be able to wrap up all the orders by the end of the week. Currently bagging/boxing orders in the 40xx range.


For those curious, Zealio preorders were in the 35xx-42xx range.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
Post by: boo on Wed, 29 June 2016, 19:46:02
Just received my order. Thanks Henry!

FYI I was in the 39xx range
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
Post by: TheVengeance on Thu, 30 June 2016, 05:08:31
I'm 4091 so looks like should be soon then. Still showing unfulfilled.

Better get my soldering iron out and desolder this board.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
Post by: Pieminister on Thu, 30 June 2016, 08:38:22
Do all orders get a shipping notification or only DHL orders. I don't think I will upgrade to the more expensive shipping anyways tough because my board won't get here for at least another month (zz96) so no hurry for my zealios to show up :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 30 June 2016, 11:34:31
Do all orders get a shipping notification or only DHL orders. I don't think I will upgrade to the more expensive shipping anyways tough because my board won't get here for at least another month (zz96) so no hurry for my zealios to show up :)

Every order that's done packing will get a shipping notification once the label is printed. Of course, due to the strike, I won't be printing a label for these select orders until Canada Post has confirmed that the strike has ended. 
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
Post by: robbles on Thu, 30 June 2016, 13:57:47
They have arrived! Thanks Zeal for making this such a smooth gb experience!! They even feel amazing out of PCB. Can't wait for my Sentraq S60 to come from Massdrop.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
Post by: TeeBaginDragon on Thu, 30 June 2016, 18:00:37
I got mine as well, thanks Zeal!   Waiting for one more group buy, then I can make my 60% board!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (shipping, please read update, post #2)
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 30 June 2016, 18:03:53
Finished shipping everything today. Everything shipped in under a week. Feelsgood.jpg.

Will be keeping an eye on Canada post strike situation. Once it's over, I'll print the labels for the remaining 22x orders and have those dropped off at my post office ASAP. Thanks for tuning in guys.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: tofgerl on Fri, 01 July 2016, 02:51:54
That is fast... Did you kidnap a kindergarten class or something? Borrow santa's elfs?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: rondg on Fri, 01 July 2016, 03:46:17
Got my keys today. Again, super fast and hassle-free! Thanks Zeal!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: ctrlX on Fri, 01 July 2016, 04:41:16
Got my order yesterday. Thank you once again for a perfectly executed GB.

Also ordered V3 lube for tactile switches. Can be used for both springs and stems, correct?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: gaunt on Fri, 01 July 2016, 05:51:06
Anyone in Europe got theirs yet? Curious to see how quick Canada Post shipping is vs. shipping from Asia (which is extremely quick in my experience, often less than a week).
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: Data on Fri, 01 July 2016, 06:36:11
Got my shipping info (3x AND a text message  :)) ) late last night and it's scheduled for delivery today.  Color me impressed.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: ctrlX on Fri, 01 July 2016, 07:37:37
Anyone in Europe got theirs yet? Curious to see how quick Canada Post shipping is vs. shipping from Asia (which is extremely quick in my experience, often less than a week).
Got mine in Sweden yesterday. Got it less than a week after it got sent out.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: gaunt on Fri, 01 July 2016, 09:07:43
Anyone in Europe got theirs yet? Curious to see how quick Canada Post shipping is vs. shipping from Asia (which is extremely quick in my experience, often less than a week).
Got mine in Sweden yesterday. Got it less than a week after it got sent out.

Great, might get it after the weekend then. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 01 July 2016, 18:24:26
That is fast... Did you kidnap a kindergarten class or something? Borrow santa's elfs?

I was pumping out pretty much 100-150x boxes a day... Everyday looked like this for DHL when my driver came to pickup.
(http://i.imgur.com/BruD3vk.jpg)

Got my keys today. Again, super fast and hassle-free! Thanks Zeal!  :thumb:

:thumb:

Got my order yesterday. Thank you once again for a perfectly executed GB.

Also ordered V3 lube for tactile switches. Can be used for both springs and stems, correct?

Thanks for participating in all 3 rounds (I believe?) :) Good to hear there weren't any delays with the new Canada Post Int'l labels...They just recently redesigned it mid-June and the font chosen for addresses were smaller than previous, and weren't as thermal printer friendly (thickness issues with legends).

Yes, use the thick lube for the switch bottom, spring, and stem. Lube in that order.

Anyone in Europe got theirs yet? Curious to see how quick Canada Post shipping is vs. shipping from Asia (which is extremely quick in my experience, often less than a week).

Depends on country. I've had a customer in Germany report 4 day delivery from Canada, but it probably just boarded the plane at the right time. :P Int'l items generally take 6-10 business days, but can take a bit longer depending on your postal service. Longest would probably take a month.

Got my shipping info (3x AND a text message  :)) ) late last night and it's scheduled for delivery today.  Color me impressed.


Shopify, Paypal, DHL notification + DHL delivery text :)) DHL Express is great, love the overnight shipments from Can->USA and vice versa.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Sat, 02 July 2016, 00:12:36
Thank you zeal for trying to make sure all the switches arrives before the strike! I got mine on Wednesday, but I wasn't there to receive it, so it's just sitting at the post office waiting to be picked up. Grrr why did I decide to travel at this time.... Can't wait till I am back to pick up it on Monday!!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: nightdriver on Sat, 02 July 2016, 03:26:49
got my 78g zealios today, snipped all the little PCB mount pegs off, and popped 'em on my teamwolf board.  they're sweet!  feels really nice.  the refined MX switch experience. thanks zeal!!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 02 July 2016, 10:29:18
I spent at least four seconds picturing a teenwolf board. I'm a little sad it doesn't exist now...
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: johuu on Sat, 02 July 2016, 11:29:02
Feelios arrived yesterday. Canada -> Germany 4 days. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: Steelers501 on Sat, 02 July 2016, 12:15:22
Interested in getting a pair of zealios 78g, or cherry mx clears to put on the red scarf from mass drop. Did R3 fix the SA keycap issues (wobble)? I am very interested in purchasing them, however, if I am about to spend $300 on a keyboard, I'd prefer not limiting myself on which keycaps I can put on. This will likely be my first (and hopefully) last keyboard.

Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: mteinum on Sun, 03 July 2016, 05:02:24
All of the items from order #4094 have now been shipped

Sun,  3 Jul 2016 06:22:27 +0000 (UTC)
  :thumb:

A small trip over the atlantic ocean, and it should be here.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: Pieminister on Mon, 04 July 2016, 03:48:18
Interested in getting a pair of zealios 78g, or cherry mx clears to put on the red scarf from mass drop. Did R3 fix the SA keycap issues (wobble)? I am very interested in purchasing them, however, if I am about to spend $300 on a keyboard, I'd prefer not limiting myself on which keycaps I can put on. This will likely be my first (and hopefully) last keyboard.

Thanks for the input.

Don't think that specific issue has been addressed yet, but I am also not sure how severe it is. I did read some people having that problem with on /r/MK with R2 zealios and R3 are the same and I swear that I saw zeal saying that it is something he is working on for R4.

Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (complete, please read update, post #2)
Post by: stoic-lemon on Mon, 04 July 2016, 03:53:40
Got my switches today. They look great. Now I can finally start my second build which has been almost exactly one year in the making. I can't wait to see how they feel, and I hope it all comes together well.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: mind_funeral on Tue, 05 July 2016, 08:43:13
Got my Zealios on a SUNDAY?!  First time I've had good service out of DHL!  Ordered 62g and 67g because I wasn't sure which ones I'd like.  Definitely like the 62g better!  Time to build a board!  Thanks, Henry!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 05 July 2016, 10:40:39
Really? I always have good service from DHL. Here in Norway it's generally known that FedEx is a joke, UPS is OK, and DHL is just now becoming a thing.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Data on Tue, 05 July 2016, 10:53:27
Really? I always have good service from DHL. Here in Norway it's generally known that FedEx is a joke, UPS is OK, and DHL is just now becoming a thing.
It's almost the opposite here in the US.  Domestic DHL is garbage.  US Postal Service is maybe one step up.  UPS is 50/50 depending on your region and your proximity to one of their major hubs.  FedEx is premium and their prices reflect it.

It seems international DHL is a different level of service than we usually get from them.  I have never have a package arrive less than 18 hours from when it shipped unless it was coming from the next town over.  :P  I know DHL is considered much better in other parts of the world.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: mind_funeral on Tue, 05 July 2016, 11:35:27
Really? I always have good service from DHL. Here in Norway it's generally known that FedEx is a joke, UPS is OK, and DHL is just now becoming a thing.

Like data said, DHL is terrible for me in the South (Mississippi).  USPS is hit or miss but lately I've had really good service from them.  USPS used to always be 1-3 days later than their estimated ship date, now it's almost always on time or just a day late.  UPS almost always delivers my amazon Prime packages, which are always on time (2 days).  I think amazon really cracks the whip on their prime shippers, though, because they guarantee ship dates.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 05 July 2016, 11:44:18
I know the local FedEx isn't really FedEx, but just do jobs for them, while DHL is actually a separate company with their own drivers and vans. That makes a difference.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 05 July 2016, 11:50:33
Got my Zealios on a SUNDAY?!  First time I've had good service out of DHL!  Ordered 62g and 67g because I wasn't sure which ones I'd like.  Definitely like the 62g better!  Time to build a board!  Thanks, Henry!

Not too sure which order yours is, but from what I know, DHL USA doesn't delivery on Sat/Sun :P But then again, it was Canada day on Friday, so my last batch of shipments was Thursday, which meant most USA shipments should've been delivered on Friday, unless your address was a remote area which required a forwarded delivery.

Really? I always have good service from DHL. Here in Norway it's generally known that FedEx is a joke, UPS is OK, and DHL is just now becoming a thing.
It's almost the opposite here in the US.  Domestic DHL is garbage.  US Postal Service is maybe one step up.  UPS is 50/50 depending on your region and your proximity to one of their major hubs.  FedEx is premium and their prices reflect it.

It seems international DHL is a different level of service than we usually get from them.  I have never have a package arrive less than 18 hours from when it shipped unless it was coming from the next town over.  :P  I know DHL is considered much better in other parts of the world.


DHL Express =/= DHL eCommerce which is what Massdrop uses...Whole different division and warehouse/drivers/planes etc.

Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 05 July 2016, 11:57:39
Yeah, I get all my Massdrop stuff in the normal post. I'm talking about Express.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: gaunt on Wed, 06 July 2016, 08:31:59
Thanks for your hard work getting the switches sent so quickly Zeal. Got my 62g switches yesterday so it only took 5 working days, pretty much what I'd expect for a domestic shipment lol. They're definitely better than any Cherry switches I've tried, but I do wish I did more research before ordering. 62g is pretty light, especially for the spacebar, so I should've really gotten the 78g versions instead.

Just to chime in on the DHL discussion... I'm also from Norway, but I have a completely different impression of them. The Web is chock-full of horror stories about people getting ridiculous, unexplainable fees from them, which usually end up being 'errors' if you call them (but no knowing how many people just pay them). It's also a pain in the ass that they won't deliver to the post office, and instead call you for directions so they can deliver at your home/work, which is really a weird arrangement considering Norway is one of the countries with the lowest population density in the world.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: cpeterson19 on Wed, 06 July 2016, 08:38:11
Ordered leftovers yesterday! Zealios hands down best switch so far!

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Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: TheVengeance on Sun, 10 July 2016, 03:39:14
So just to add perspective to any newbies who aren't smoldering masters and worries about deforming the clear switches and chattering etc.

I did my whole board yesterday and had no problem soldering any switches and have zero chattering.

Used a hot iron at about 375 and each point took about a second. Simple stuff.

They are nice quality, definitely feel different from any other gat or cherry, the drop-off Is so pronounced it's closer to topre (67s). 78s on the big keys.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Wed, 13 July 2016, 08:12:50
Everything arrived long ago, but just got done unpacking it. Got any tip on which lube (Thin or Thick) to use for Topre Sliders?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 13 July 2016, 13:28:12
Everything arrived long ago, but just got done unpacking it. Got any tip on which lube (Thin or Thick) to use for Topre Sliders?

Always thick for Topre.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: priyadi on Sat, 16 July 2016, 08:54:15
So, what is the time frame for R4? :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Zeal on Sat, 16 July 2016, 13:19:46
So, what is the time frame for R4? :)

August, with 3 other new products to be released concurrently.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 16 July 2016, 17:26:06
Wow I didn't realize it was so close! Really excited for this round!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Data on Sat, 16 July 2016, 20:00:51
So, what is the time frame for R4? :)

August, with 3 other new products to be released concurrently.

If the clear stabs are part of this I will be super impressed, and I'm already somewhat of a Zealios evangelist. :P
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 17 July 2016, 09:03:29
Or just invisible switches. Why go half way, right?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Data on Sun, 17 July 2016, 11:07:06
Or just invisible switches. Why go half way, right?
Why stop there? Physical inputs are obsolete. Let's go full-on mind control. Zeal is the hero Gotham deserves.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: tofgerl on Sun, 17 July 2016, 11:47:15
I'm sooo ready to jack in!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: priyadi on Sun, 17 July 2016, 13:23:24
Zeal, how about SMD LED compatible Zealios? I know Zealios are already transparent, but with SMD cutout at the bottom, it will allow them to be mounted flush with the PCB. I also think they will still be compatible with regular through-the-hole LEDs. So no need to have 2 versions of Zealios to accomodate both types of LEDS.

Oh, and how about that clicky Zealio you mentioned several months back?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 17 July 2016, 18:55:38
Zeal, how about SMD LED compatible Zealios? I know Zealios are already transparent, but with SMD cutout at the bottom, it will allow them to be mounted flush with the PCB. I also think they will still be compatible with regular through-the-hole LEDs. So no need to have 2 versions of Zealios to accomodate both types of LEDS.

Oh, and how about that clicky Zealio you mentioned several months back?

SMD compatible bottoms are not required for my upcoming RGB LED PCB. Trust me, there won't be any clearance issues. :)

Clicky Zealios are still on my mind, and am still pushing and hoping it'll be made one day.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: brighenne on Sun, 17 July 2016, 20:00:11
Zeal, how about SMD LED compatible Zealios? I know Zealios are already transparent, but with SMD cutout at the bottom, it will allow them to be mounted flush with the PCB. I also think they will still be compatible with regular through-the-hole LEDs. So no need to have 2 versions of Zealios to accomodate both types of LEDS.

Oh, and how about that clicky Zealio you mentioned several months back?

SMD compatible bottoms are not required for my upcoming RGB LED PCB.

Is there an information post about that anywhere? Is that one of the new products on the august time table?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Zeal on Sun, 17 July 2016, 20:57:34
Zeal, how about SMD LED compatible Zealios? I know Zealios are already transparent, but with SMD cutout at the bottom, it will allow them to be mounted flush with the PCB. I also think they will still be compatible with regular through-the-hole LEDs. So no need to have 2 versions of Zealios to accomodate both types of LEDS.

Oh, and how about that clicky Zealio you mentioned several months back?

SMD compatible bottoms are not required for my upcoming RGB LED PCB.

Is there an information post about that anywhere? Is that one of the new products on the august time table?

No information is publicly revealed as of yet. Will release prototype pictures before the end of the month. :)
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: gaunt on Mon, 18 July 2016, 12:30:36
So, has the chatter issue that affected some of R1 been completely fixed? Reason I'm asking is I've got a sneaking feeling some of my switches are chattering, but it's been bloody hard to test as I can literally write for hours before it happens, but sometimes I get two 'a's or a double space when  it feels like I shouldn't have. I'm not 100% sure though, since it happens so rarely and I'm not all that precise of a typist anyhow.

I've been testing using the Elitekeyboard Switch Hitter tool, but it's pretty weird. Having the chatter threshold between 8 and 30 ms, it takes literally thousands of key presses before I get a possible chatter detection (my fingers hurt atm from spamming single keys lol). However, if I press my palms over big parts of the keyboard and press repeatedly, I get way more detections (spread over many keys, which I can't reproduce later most of the time, and I also get these sorts of detections on my trusty Topre board, which I understand don't suffer from chattering issues at all, albeit to a lesser degree). I've been trying two Phantom firmware versions, which are all 6KRO.

This was my first time soldering, and I used a cheapo, non-adjustable Ersa 230V/30W iron with a temp of 380C. I'm sure I didn't do a very good job, but I thought I was pretty quick on the switches near the end, and the ones I'm most suspicious of (A and space) are among the cleanest jobs I did, probably only spending 3-5 sec on them. In comparison I spent a ton of time on the Caps switch (easily 50-100 times more time in contact with iron than the other switches) with some sloppy desoldering, and that one has no chatter at all. I can provide some pictures if necessary.

I assume if the Zealio chatter issue is a thing of the past, then Strict's fix doesn't apply to my situation. Any idea what my next step should be?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: romevi on Mon, 18 July 2016, 12:45:44
I just started getting some repeated presses last night. Not sure what the change is. I heard this has been addressed, yes? Going for next round with heavier weights.
Odd, because it's my space bar and a couple of other letters (I remember "I" was repeating), but my space bar is a tactile gray, so not sure what's going on there.

I have the r1 Zealios and have been using my board since February.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Pieminister on Mon, 18 July 2016, 14:50:04
What kind of solder do you guys use for installing switches?
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 18 July 2016, 16:01:49
60/40, 63/37 or closest.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 19 July 2016, 12:45:03
I just started getting some repeated presses last night. Not sure what the change is. I heard this has been addressed, yes? Going for next round with heavier weights.
Odd, because it's my space bar and a couple of other letters (I remember "I" was repeating), but my space bar is a tactile gray, so not sure what's going on there.

I have the r1 Zealios and have been using my board since February.

romevi PM'd me later that day and confirmed that the issue was his old USB hub.

So, has the chatter issue that affected some of R1 been completely fixed? Reason I'm asking is I've got a sneaking feeling some of my switches are chattering, but it's been bloody hard to test as I can literally write for hours before it happens, but sometimes I get two 'a's or a double space when  it feels like I shouldn't have. I'm not 100% sure though, since it happens so rarely and I'm not all that precise of a typist anyhow.

I've been testing using the Elitekeyboard Switch Hitter tool, but it's pretty weird. Having the chatter threshold between 8 and 30 ms, it takes literally thousands of key presses before I get a possible chatter detection (my fingers hurt atm from spamming single keys lol). However, if I press my palms over big parts of the keyboard and press repeatedly, I get way more detections (spread over many keys, which I can't reproduce later most of the time, and I also get these sorts of detections on my trusty Topre board, which I understand don't suffer from chattering issues at all, albeit to a lesser degree). I've been trying two Phantom firmware versions, which are all 6KRO.

This was my first time soldering, and I used a cheapo, non-adjustable Ersa 230V/30W iron with a temp of 380C. I'm sure I didn't do a very good job, but I thought I was pretty quick on the switches near the end, and the ones I'm most suspicious of (A and space) are among the cleanest jobs I did, probably only spending 3-5 sec on them. In comparison I spent a ton of time on the Caps switch (easily 50-100 times more time in contact with iron than the other switches) with some sloppy desoldering, and that one has no chatter at all. I can provide some pictures if necessary.

I assume if the Zealio chatter issue is a thing of the past, then Strict's fix doesn't apply to my situation. Any idea what my next step should be?

Temp seems quite a bit high, but will depend on what kind of solder you're using. With leaded 63/37 Kester 44, I solder at 650F/343C. Any regular mechanical switch can show up a bounce on switch hitter if spammed hard enough. Make sure your kb isn't plugged into a hub, and try again. In the event that you do encounter issues still, strict's fix still applies. 

What kind of solder do you guys use for installing switches?

63/37 Kester 44 in 0.02" diameter. Some go for 0.031".
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: romevi on Tue, 19 July 2016, 12:57:28
I just started getting some repeated presses last night. Not sure what the change is. I heard this has been addressed, yes? Going for next round with heavier weights.
Odd, because it's my space bar and a couple of other letters (I remember "I" was repeating), but my space bar is a tactile gray, so not sure what's going on there.

I have the r1 Zealios and have been using my board since February.

romevi PM'd me later that day and confirmed that the issue was his old USB hub.

Yeah, I forgot to follow up here!

Turns out I was an idiot and didn't realize I was using a cable plugged into a USB hub, and didn't have the external power plugged into the hub. So that's why it was going wonky. I was moving cables around that night and completely overlooked which I plugged into my board, not to mention I misplaced the power source for the hub.
I plugged it into the computer and all was solved!
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: gaunt on Tue, 19 July 2016, 14:09:32
Temp seems quite a bit high, but will depend on what kind of solder you're using. With leaded 63/37 Kester 44, I solder at 650F/343C. Any regular mechanical switch can show up a bounce on switch hitter if spammed hard enough. Make sure your kb isn't plugged into a hub, and try again. In the event that you do encounter issues still, strict's fix still applies.

Thank you very much, I just had a 'duh' moment - I've been using an USB extension cord that is extremely long as it was the only one I had laying around the house for my new build. Fingers crossed that it's the cause.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: r5d on Mon, 08 August 2016, 05:42:18
Is there another Zealios GB planned? Right now everything is sold out..

R4 when?  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: kawasaki161 on Mon, 08 August 2016, 06:11:43
R4 when?  ;D

Zeal said something about Soon™.
Which is very plausible because it allows him to combine the order for the new products and other switches. Might take a little longer is he tries to fix the wobble first.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: wongie on Mon, 08 August 2016, 08:01:07
Is there another Zealios GB planned? Right now everything is sold out..

R4 when?  ;D

Zeal mentioned in r/mech only a week ago that r4 would hit in August, so if he's still on schedule it should be very soon now... Best get your wallet ready.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: r5d on Mon, 08 August 2016, 09:04:14
Zeal mentioned in r/mech only a week ago that r4 would hit in August, so if he's still on schedule it should be very soon now... Best get your wallet ready.

Since R3 followed R2 *very* closely, I feared there wouldn't be a R4 for a while.. Great news! I have boards in need of some purple goodness.
Title: Re: [GB] R3 Purple Zealio Switches (100% complete)
Post by: yookwh on Thu, 01 December 2016, 00:40:59
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