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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12050 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 21:34:38 »
Is Unicomp the only company making buckling springs stems/caps?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12051 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 22:05:17 »
Not sure if its a simple question but,
I've just given the V60 a closer look again since its currently on MD and was looking at some pictures of the PCB.

The PCB is US/ISO/JP so it support things like split left shift for iso (and split backspace for jp?).
However it also support a split right shift, with the add-on key labeled as esc?

I'm wondering if anyone has ever tried to mod or short wire to see what happens when you trigger the add-on keys of split right shift (labeled esc) or split backspace (labeled J14) on an us version.

I guess due to firmware they might not do anything on the us, and its most likely not practical anyway since the v60 isn't programmable but I'm really curious and maybe someone has more knowledge about JP vs US layout...

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12052 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 22:26:08 »
Why leeku pcb not working on 64 bit?

Mine works fine for me

 Can you show me?

Um, I mean I can take a picture of aquakeytest for you but I just plugged mine in and it had the basic firmware loaded. And my leeku is at work so you'd have to wait. I'm not sure how else I can help since I've never had any problems with it.

Yes. I see. But I fixed my issue. Anyway, thanks.


Sorry to be late. Too much work. Leeku pcb normal work for you?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12053 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 23:46:51 »
What program and tools do I need to draw a plate for pcb?

I use autocad but Swill's plate builder will work.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.0
Autodesk Inventor, FreeCAD, ProEngineer, and SolidWorks are all options too. Inventor and FreeCAD are free. But swill's tool is probably easiest.

Thanks!  I am trying to draw a plate for my 360c, so I need the little tab with holes.  Am I correct that swill's tool can only draw a plate without the tabs?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12054 on: Fri, 10 April 2015, 23:56:29 »
When I open a switch, I can a swap slider and spring to turn a ...
... MX red into a MX black,
... MX blue into a MX green,
... MX brown into a MX clear,
right? But I can't swap the interior to turn a MX red into a, say MX clear, right?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12055 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 00:02:29 »
When I open a switch, I can a swap slider and spring to turn a ...
... MX red into a MX black,
... MX blue into a MX green,
... MX brown into a MX clear,
right? But I can't swap the interior to turn a MX red into a, say MX clear, right?
You can make any mx switch become any other MX switch by swapping the slider and spring.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12056 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 00:03:40 »
When I open a switch, I can a swap slider and spring to turn a ...
... MX red into a MX black,
... MX blue into a MX green,
... MX brown into a MX clear,
right? But I can't swap the interior to turn a MX red into a, say MX clear, right?

They all have the same switch bottom and top.  Their differences are only the spring and the slider, so you are able to turn MX brown into MX clear, MX red into MX clear if you switch both the slider and the spring.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12057 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 01:59:10 »
Oh! That's great.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12058 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 07:47:06 »
I have a Poker II that I am happy with, aside from one small thing. Two, maybe.

Sometimes when I am using the board, seemingly completely randomly, it will switch over to the second programmed layer, with no lights popping up anywhere. Aside from manually hitting FN+whatever, I didn't think that there was any way to toggle the second layer. As far as I know, the second layer is just the arrow keys and the printed functions. It is not modifiable. What am I inadvertently pressing to end up this way? Not all of the functions are activating upon keypresses, just the arrow keys (wasd)

The third layer is the programmable layer, and I have "okl;" mapped for the arrow keys for playing Danmaku. I use right shift+FN to toggle to this layer. Since these are the only programmed keys, I can still use the native volume control (FN+nm,). However, when I try to change the volume while pressing a shift+Z+FN+n/m, the left alt key lights up, and I can't make any keypresses at all. What the heck is going on? I admit that's probably a lot to make the keyboard handle, but I would like to at least know what I am doing wrong.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12059 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:05:32 »
So, pardon my ignorance, but could anyone explain the differences been the xwhatsit controller and a Soarer's Converter?

So I've got a Model F AT coming in the mail soon, and I ordered one of the Soarer's Converters off Orihalcon on ebay. From what I understand, the SC is a Teensy with Soarer's firmware that is an intermediary device between your keyboard and PC, and the xwhatsit replaces the keyboard's original controller and provides all the same functionality. Is that right?

Is there any major difference in functionality, or any reason to prefer one over the other? Is one more difficult to create or install than the other? I'm thinking I may eventually want to use Xwhatsit's controller for my Model F because having the SC separate from the keyboard itself would probably bother me after a while.

Thanks.

Edit: Completely unrelated question, does anyone know what is required to get an ADDS 1010 terminal keyboard to work with modern PCs, if it is even possible?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12060 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:33:51 »
the SC is a Teensy with Soarer's firmware that is an intermediary device between your keyboard and PC, and the xwhatsit replaces the keyboard's original controller and provides all the same functionality.

Is there any major difference in functionality, or any reason to prefer one over the other?

Soarer's is infinitely easier because replacing a controller requires a lot of ancillary work.

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He wasn’t someone telling Trump hard truths to make sure that he was protected. Cohen was the guy who simply wanted to make sure that Trump was placated. He wanted the boss to be happy. Cohen wasn’t using his clout or connections to turn the tide in Trump’s favor.
He was just another person whose ambitions and self-worth had become intertwined with Trump, someone who as federal investigators closed in on him, as he lied and then lied some more, he had to be reminded by his wife, his daughter and his son that Trump was neither his salvation, nor was he someone worth saving." 2024-05-14 comment

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12061 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:55:31 »
So, pardon my ignorance, but could anyone explain the differences been the xwhatsit controller and a Soarer's Converter?

So I've got a Model F AT coming in the mail soon, and I ordered one of the Soarer's Converters off Orihalcon on ebay. From what I understand, the SC is a Teensy with Soarer's firmware that is an intermediary device between your keyboard and PC, and the xwhatsit replaces the keyboard's original controller and provides all the same functionality. Is that right?

Is there any major difference in functionality, or any reason to prefer one over the other? Is one more difficult to create or install than the other? I'm thinking I may eventually want to use Xwhatsit's controller for my Model F because having the SC separate from the keyboard itself would probably bother me after a while.

Thanks.

Edit: Completely unrelated question, does anyone know what is required to get an ADDS 1010 terminal keyboard to work with modern PCs, if it is even possible?
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SC will work out of the box and is much easier to physically install as it is 4 wires between the controller and the PC.  I put mine inside the case of my XT and just run the USB cable out of the case. 

Xwhatsit is much more difficult to physically install as you have to desolder a pair of 15 connector ribbon cables.  The wires are stranded condutors in small holes and are a bit of a pain to desolder.  But it is MUCH easier to configure the xwhatsit with the utility.  I have an xwhatsit in my AT.  Currently in the process of doing a remote mount on mine though.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12062 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 13:25:35 »
Just about ready to start putting things together.  Trying to plan ahead while I wait for the acrylic sheets I ordered.  How does this matrix look?  It will require me rotating a few switch holes in the thumb cluster.  I was trying to make the wiring as simple and neat as possible.  Is anything obviously wrong here?  Thanks.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12063 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 20:55:06 »
Edit: Sorry.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12064 on: Sat, 11 April 2015, 23:31:59 »
Please don't bump questions. I'll try and answer some questions when I can find a computer to type at.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12065 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 00:56:07 »
Is Unicomp the only company making buckling springs stems/caps?

Clicky Keyboards sells some, but I don't think they make them: http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/categories.main/parentcat/10191

Same for Fentek: http://www.fentek-ind.com/keys.htm#.VSoI7GbHG_M
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12066 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 03:16:23 »
I have a really petty question.
Should I set up my plate for stepped offset caps lock or centered caps lock?
Don't want that wide modular cutout or mod the stem for my backlit key either lol
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12067 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 08:50:02 »

Clicky Keyboards sells some, but I don't think they make them


Pretty sure that they harvest them from vintage boards, so they often match better than Unicomps.

Remember when ordering that sub-legends on the numpad come as: light or dark gray, light or dark brown, or black. They will need to know what you prefer.
"Cohen has been described as a “fixer,” a guy who gets things done, who cleans up messes and who calms the waters in a crisis. But mostly, it seems that Cohen was a lackey.
He wasn’t someone telling Trump hard truths to make sure that he was protected. Cohen was the guy who simply wanted to make sure that Trump was placated. He wanted the boss to be happy. Cohen wasn’t using his clout or connections to turn the tide in Trump’s favor.
He was just another person whose ambitions and self-worth had become intertwined with Trump, someone who as federal investigators closed in on him, as he lied and then lied some more, he had to be reminded by his wife, his daughter and his son that Trump was neither his salvation, nor was he someone worth saving." 2024-05-14 comment

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12068 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:03:35 »
Any online stores stocking stabs, stickers, and mx clear switches, possibly lube atm?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12069 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 11:54:04 »
Any online stores stocking stabs, stickers, and mx clear switches, possibly lube atm?

Elite Keyboards is a good start for the more common items.
"Cohen has been described as a “fixer,” a guy who gets things done, who cleans up messes and who calms the waters in a crisis. But mostly, it seems that Cohen was a lackey.
He wasn’t someone telling Trump hard truths to make sure that he was protected. Cohen was the guy who simply wanted to make sure that Trump was placated. He wanted the boss to be happy. Cohen wasn’t using his clout or connections to turn the tide in Trump’s favor.
He was just another person whose ambitions and self-worth had become intertwined with Trump, someone who as federal investigators closed in on him, as he lied and then lied some more, he had to be reminded by his wife, his daughter and his son that Trump was neither his salvation, nor was he someone worth saving." 2024-05-14 comment

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12070 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 16:57:15 »

Clicky Keyboards sells some, but I don't think they make them


Pretty sure that they harvest them from vintage boards, so they often match better than Unicomps.

Remember when ordering that sub-legends on the numpad come as: light or dark gray, light or dark brown, or black. They will need to know what you prefer.

Thanks guys.  But I was wondering as a possible source for buckling springs caps with custom legends.  Mostly multi unit stabilized keys.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12071 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 17:27:23 »
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"Cohen has been described as a “fixer,” a guy who gets things done, who cleans up messes and who calms the waters in a crisis. But mostly, it seems that Cohen was a lackey.
He wasn’t someone telling Trump hard truths to make sure that he was protected. Cohen was the guy who simply wanted to make sure that Trump was placated. He wanted the boss to be happy. Cohen wasn’t using his clout or connections to turn the tide in Trump’s favor.
He was just another person whose ambitions and self-worth had become intertwined with Trump, someone who as federal investigators closed in on him, as he lied and then lied some more, he had to be reminded by his wife, his daughter and his son that Trump was neither his salvation, nor was he someone worth saving." 2024-05-14 comment

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12072 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 18:36:14 »
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What is the thing in the first picture called?  I remember I loved to play with it in middle school :))

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12073 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 18:40:04 »
What is the thing in the first picture called?

An "engraver" or "hand-held engraving tool"
"Cohen has been described as a “fixer,” a guy who gets things done, who cleans up messes and who calms the waters in a crisis. But mostly, it seems that Cohen was a lackey.
He wasn’t someone telling Trump hard truths to make sure that he was protected. Cohen was the guy who simply wanted to make sure that Trump was placated. He wanted the boss to be happy. Cohen wasn’t using his clout or connections to turn the tide in Trump’s favor.
He was just another person whose ambitions and self-worth had become intertwined with Trump, someone who as federal investigators closed in on him, as he lied and then lied some more, he had to be reminded by his wife, his daughter and his son that Trump was neither his salvation, nor was he someone worth saving." 2024-05-14 comment

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12074 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 18:46:11 »
Any online stores stocking stabs, stickers, and mx clear switches, possibly lube atm?

Elite Keyboards is a good start for the more common items.

EK doesn't carry any of those things except lube, and their lube is for stabs, not switches.

Try MechanicalKeyboards.com for the switches and lube, TechKeys for the stickers. Not sure who has stabilizers in stock right now, but there was just a big GB so you can try posting in that GB thread.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12075 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 18:50:49 »
Any online stores stocking stabs, stickers, and mx clear switches, possibly lube atm?

Elite Keyboards is a good start for the more common items.

EK doesn't carry any of those things except lube, and their lube is for stabs, not switches.

Try MechanicalKeyboards.com for the switches and lube, TechKeys for the stickers. Not sure who has stabilizers in stock right now, but there was just a big GB so you can try posting in that GB thread.
Can confirm. Tried to put MechLube 2 on my Clears (they say it should work for switches), but it's too thick in my opinion.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12076 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:14:19 »
Do stickers really make a difference?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12077 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:17:00 »
Do stickers really make a difference?
people mostly do it for aesthetics which seems pretty silly considering the amount of time you see them. Then again, I think most of the time people just stick em on when they're opening switches already like for spring swaps
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12078 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:19:49 »
Do stickers really make a difference?
I think it looks good on assembly pictures ;)

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12079 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:24:05 »
I thought the stickers went in between the switch casing top and bottom sections. When would you see that except when the switch is apart?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12080 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:28:36 »
I thought the stickers went in between the switch casing top and bottom sections. When would you see that except when the switch is apart?


You don't see the whole sticker, but part of it. See this picture: (Not mine)



Also with gateron clear switch tops becoming more popular, I think stickers will be more popular again. B7ad had a beautiful board built recently by margo with clear switch tops and stickers, and it looked amazing!

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12081 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:32:35 »
I thought the stickers went in between the switch casing top and bottom sections. When would you see that except when the switch is apart?


You don't see the whole sticker, but part of it. See this picture: (Not mine)
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Also with gateron clear switch tops becoming more popular, I think stickers will be more popular again. B7ad had a beautiful board built recently by margo with clear switch tops and stickers, and it looked amazing!
and someone did a build with those neon green stickers that looked pretty awesome
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12082 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:34:38 »
I thought the stickers went in between the switch casing top and bottom sections. When would you see that except when the switch is apart?
You can see a little bit poking through:

(photo blatantly taken from b7ad's blog)

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12083 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 19:36:16 »
B7ad has such beautiful boards! This is his recent one I was talking about:



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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12084 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 22:50:46 »
So my Soarer's Converter arrived in the mail today. Trying it with some old board I had lying around, and all is fine except for one key. Doesn't seem to do anything, nothing registers in HID Listen. Is this likely to be something wrong with the switch itself, or something nonstandard about this keyboard?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12085 on: Sun, 12 April 2015, 23:25:39 »
Any of these mech boards?




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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12086 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 00:21:33 »
The IBM isn't, and I'm pretty sure the Compaq one isn't.

I don't recognise the others. Do you have closeup pics of the switches? I can't see the ones in those pics, very potato + my eyes are potatoes.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12087 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 05:29:01 »

Clicky Keyboards sells some, but I don't think they make them


Pretty sure that they harvest them from vintage boards, so they often match better than Unicomps.

Remember when ordering that sub-legends on the numpad come as: light or dark gray, light or dark brown, or black. They will need to know what you prefer.

Thanks guys.  But I was wondering as a possible source for buckling springs caps with custom legends.  Mostly multi unit stabilized keys.

Looks like Fentek might (scroll down to the bottom): http://www.fentek-ind.com/keys.htm#.VSuZ5ZSUdfY

DecentKeyboards seem to do 1x, maybe others too? https://www.etsy.com/shop/DecentKeyboards
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12088 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 07:32:31 »
Doesn't seem to do anything, nothing registers in HID Listen.

If nothing registers in HID listen, it is almost sure to be a dead switch.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12089 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 08:01:21 »
The IBM isn't, and I'm pretty sure the Compaq one isn't.

I don't recognise the others. Do you have closeup pics of the switches? I can't see the ones in those pics, very potato + my eyes are potatoes.

Not my pictures sadly. That's as good as they get :(

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12090 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:16:46 »
Where can I buy a 60%, backlit keyboard, where I can program how the backlights behave entirely myself? I want to create a piece of software that will talk back to the keyboard and illuminate certain keys in response to actions in the software.  Preferably RGB and preferably mechanical. Must be 60% as space is at a premium but 75% might work. The key point is I need the illumination level of each individual key to be programmable by me in my own software (from say, C, or Golang).
Will any of the keyboards such as the Pok3r or the Ducky Mini be able to do this?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12091 on: Mon, 13 April 2015, 13:57:37 »
AFAIK there are no programmable RGB 60% boards. I think corsairs software can do what you're talking about but the smallest board you can get from them is tkl.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12092 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 09:16:20 »
Thanks!  I am trying to draw a plate for my 360c, so I need the little tab with holes.  Am I correct that swill's tool can only draw a plate without the tabs?
I am not sure that thing call a "tab" or something else, but the part in the blue circle is what I mean
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1) Use swill's tool and get it to spit out the 2D CAD file for you, not the drawing.
2) Open the file in FreeCAD or your CAD program of choice
3) Add in the tabs.

Swill's tool only does the plate.

I have a Poker II that I am happy with, aside from one small thing. Two, maybe.

Sometimes when I am using the board, seemingly completely randomly, it will switch over to the second programmed layer, with no lights popping up anywhere. Aside from manually hitting FN+whatever, I didn't think that there was any way to toggle the second layer. As far as I know, the second layer is just the arrow keys and the printed functions. It is not modifiable. What am I inadvertently pressing to end up this way? Not all of the functions are activating upon keypresses, just the arrow keys (wasd)

The third layer is the programmable layer, and I have "okl;" mapped for the arrow keys for playing Danmaku. I use right shift+FN to toggle to this layer. Since these are the only programmed keys, I can still use the native volume control (FN+nm,). However, when I try to change the volume while pressing a shift+Z+FN+n/m, the left alt key lights up, and I can't make any keypresses at all. What the heck is going on? I admit that's probably a lot to make the keyboard handle, but I would like to at least know what I am doing wrong.

I don't really know off the top of my head and it's not a very simple question. I suggest making a separate thread to get more visibility.

I have a really petty question.
Should I set up my plate for stepped offset caps lock or centered caps lock?
Don't want that wide modular cutout or mod the stem for my backlit key either lol

Do you want a stepped or centered caps lock? Go from there.

Just about ready to start putting things together.  Trying to plan ahead while I wait for the acrylic sheets I ordered.  How does this matrix look?  It will require me rotating a few switch holes in the thumb cluster.  I was trying to make the wiring as simple and neat as possible.  Is anything obviously wrong here?  Thanks.

Really not a simple question. I suggest making a separate thread for more visibility. Thread is really for quick and easy questions. I don't consider matrix checks a simple question.

Where can I buy a 60%, backlit keyboard, where I can program how the backlights behave entirely myself? I want to create a piece of software that will talk back to the keyboard and illuminate certain keys in response to actions in the software.  Preferably RGB and preferably mechanical. Must be 60% as space is at a premium but 75% might work. The key point is I need the illumination level of each individual key to be programmable by me in my own software (from say, C, or Golang).
Will any of the keyboards such as the Pok3r or the Ducky Mini be able to do this?

Pretty sure this doesn't exist in a stock board. You're probably going to have build a custom.

1) Could anyone explain the differences been the xwhatsit controller and a Soarer's Converter?

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So I've got a Model F AT coming in the mail soon, and I ordered one of the Soarer's Converters off Orihalcon on ebay. From what I understand, the SC is a Teensy with Soarer's firmware that is an intermediary device between your keyboard and PC, and the xwhatsit replaces the keyboard's original controller and provides all the same functionality. Is that right?

Is there any major difference in functionality, or any reason to prefer one over the other? Is one more difficult to create or install than the other? I'm thinking I may eventually want to use Xwhatsit's controller for my Model F because having the SC separate from the keyboard itself would probably bother me after a while.

2) Completely unrelated question, does anyone know what is required to get an ADDS 1010 terminal keyboard to work with modern PCs, if it is even possible?
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1) In addition to what has already been said, Soarer seems to be a bit easier and is an external add-on. You could hide it inside the board but you can also make an inline converter like Fohat.digs has shown. xwhatsit's controller requires you replace the original controller with his. I was scared to damage my OG hardware in my 4074 62key when I was swapping in the xwhatsit.

Soarer's converter allows you to use a variety of firmwares such as TMK or metalliqaz's EasyAVR. xwhatsit's converter only uses his software that he's created programming for.

So my Soarer's Converter arrived in the mail today. Trying it with some old board I had lying around, and all is fine except for one key. Doesn't seem to do anything, nothing registers in HID Listen. Is this likely to be something wrong with the switch itself, or something nonstandard about this keyboard?

Thanks.

Seems like the switch might be dead or that switch doesn't have a regular scancode.

Any online stores stocking stabs, stickers, and mx clear switches, possibly lube atm?

EliteKeyboards isn't really good for anything on your list other than lube. I suggest checking out MechanicalKeyboards.com and Techkeys.us

Do stickers really make a difference?
I think it looks good on assembly pictures ;)

See the OP. I think they're a waste of time and money to be honest. It's a PITA to add the stickers on and you'll see them....once or twice a month or year when you swap caps? Putting them on solely to take a nice picture is a colossal waste of time in my eyes.

Thanks guys.  But I was wondering as a possible source for buckling springs caps with custom legends.  Mostly multi unit stabilized keys.

Did you see rowdy's reply from Fentek? I think they might be able to help you out.

Any of these mech boards?

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I don't think so. Looks like all rubber domes to me.



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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12093 on: Tue, 14 April 2015, 21:30:32 »

1) Use swill's tool and get it to spit out the 2D CAD file for you, not the drawing.
2) Open the file in FreeCAD or your CAD program of choice
3) Add in the tabs.

Swill's tool only does the plate.



Thanks!  Will try that now  :)

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12094 on: Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:25:02 »
Is there currently any place to purchase PCB mounted cherry stabilizers besides GON and winkeyless?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12095 on: Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:28:26 »
Is there currently any place to purchase PCB mounted cherry stabilizers besides GON and winkeyless?
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55

but their description is vague, not sure what's in the kit. Probably 4x2u & 1x6.25u
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12096 on: Wed, 15 April 2015, 02:32:40 »
Is there currently any place to purchase PCB mounted cherry stabilizers besides GON and winkeyless?
http://imsto.cn/index.php?route=product/product&path=61&product_id=55

but their description is vague, not sure what's in the kit. Probably 4x2u & 1x6.25u

Those are the knock-off stabilizers though right? I think I remember seeing someone post a negative review about them.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12097 on: Wed, 15 April 2015, 04:28:56 »
Anybody know somewhere where I can try out a Topre keyboard? My location is San Jose, CA. LA is too far, I can buy the keyboard with the gas money. SF is possible but it's really reaching. Anybody know of a local Frys that has one out to try maybe?  :(
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« Reply #12098 on: Wed, 15 April 2015, 05:48:26 »
Anybody know somewhere where I can try out a Topre keyboard? My location is San Jose, CA. LA is too far, I can buy the keyboard with the gas money. SF is possible but it's really reaching. Anybody know of a local Frys that has one out to try maybe?  :(

My US geography is a bit vague.  Are you anywhere near EK?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #12099 on: Wed, 15 April 2015, 05:49:19 »
I checked earlier. EK is too far from San Jose.
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