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Title: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: zekth on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:32:41

(https://i.imgur.com/RH4lvWg.jpg)

Bonjour,
Today I'd like to introduce you to GMK - Blanc Sur Noir !
To put it simply, this is GMK WoB but with the Azerty (french) compatibility, with Tulip novelties as the cherry on the croissant.
For years, it has been a struggle with very little to choose from when looking for quality French keysets. We feel like the market might be ready to hit the MOQ to make this a reality.

This keyset has been designed by the community, for the community. I'm just a spokeperson here. There's also no designer fee to keep the price reasonable despite the low-ish MOQ.

We're aiming for a 150 sets MOQ, at a retail price of 130€.

Base Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/oYBc6cE.jpg)

Note: Mods will use CENTERED legends.

Renders

(https://i.imgur.com/igWrW0U.jpg)
Plaket 60

More
(https://i.imgur.com/tw7kc6b.jpg)
Géonwork - F1-8x

(https://i.imgur.com/rQSLTRh.jpg)
NoEscape

(https://i.imgur.com/x1Qwucp.jpg)
NXMR

(https://i.imgur.com/q7DGuGI.jpg)
AKG



Questions
- Will there be other kits? Due to how MOQs work and the niche audience for this group-buy, we are unable to add child kits.


Vendors
https://oblotzky.industries/ (https://oblotzky.industries/)
https://novelkeys.com/ (https://novelkeys.com/)

Many thanks to

- Oblotzky: for allowing the project to happen
- Plaketdebeur: for taking the initiative as well as the lead of Blanc Sur Noir, but mostly for his passion
- Druz: 3D render god
- kustom3: kitting input and contributions to the visual assets
- biip: for his wisdom
- Zekth: kitting input, PR, bringing Oblotzky on board

Merci beaucoup for reading this and thank you in advance should you support this project.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: kustom3 on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:34:38
Le jour de gloire est arrivé.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:38:27
I'm interested. One thing I'd like to confirm -- will the icon modifiers (Shift, Caps Lock) have vertically-centered icons? (aka "Dixie mods" -- see Perestroika, Bingsu R1, 9009 R3, Dualshot, Botanical R1, etc). The renders seem to imply this, but there are some inconsistencies, thus making it unclear (e.g. see the 60% render -- left shift is centered; right shift is top-left aligned)

Still a niche but cool project; hope many people can join it to hit MOQ.


edit: I saw the "NOTE" :feelsbadman:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: BlivionIaG on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:39:32
Au nom des enfants de la patrieeeee !
Le jour de gloire est arrivé.

Great, we finally will have the option of GMK double shot ABS keycaps in ISO-FR layout, great stuff for the French community 🤎.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: inviz on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:40:17
Un rêve éveillé... pour la France !
Je suivrai évidemment de prêt l'IC comme le GB et je serai au rendez-vous, coûte que coûte.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Legoo on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:40:42
Big yes
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: zekth on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:43:15
I'm interested. One thing I'd like to confirm -- will the icon modifiers (Shift, Caps Lock) have vertically-centered icons? (aka "Dixie mods" -- see Perestroika, Bingsu R1, 9009 R3, Dualshot, Botanical R1, etc). The renders seem to imply this, but there are some inconsistencies, thus making it unclear (e.g. see the 60% render -- left shift is centered; right shift is top-left aligned)

Still a niche but cool project; hope many people can join it to hit MOQ.

That is correct, but in the IC there's a note:

Quote
Note: Mods will use CENTERED legends.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: louckousse on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:43:41
ALLONS-Y LET'S GO C'EST PARTI LES AMIS !
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Adelscott on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:45:24
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjjNHmsXsAAPIJm?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: mamahuhu on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:45:31
Cheese, saucisson, pétanque and Minitel terminal. Such Frenchy renders!
Thanks MKFR team, Oblotzky and biip for your time.
I have been waiting so long for a classic French AZERTY keyset made by GMK. I wish that there this keyset will pass the MOQ.
I will buy many sets so that I can also introduce the mechanical keyboard hobby to my French friends.
GLFYIC!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:45:51
I'm interested. One thing I'd like to confirm -- will the icon modifiers (Shift, Caps Lock) have vertically-centered icons? (aka "Dixie mods" -- see Perestroika, Bingsu R1, 9009 R3, Dualshot, Botanical R1, etc). The renders seem to imply this, but there are some inconsistencies, thus making it unclear (e.g. see the 60% render -- left shift is centered; right shift is top-left aligned)

Still a niche but cool project; hope many people can join it to hit MOQ.

That is correct, but in the IC there's a note:

Quote
Note: Mods will use CENTERED legends.

Thanks.

Is feedback taken for kitting at all for this interest-check?

I kind of wish there was a "Tulip/EU Parliament replenishing kit":
- a four-key kit to have as replacement for when your set wears off from typing (due to the nature of colored UV printing on the keys)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Neely_12 on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:47:09
Please make the 4 tulip caps a kit. I’ll buy like 5
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: azhdar on Sun, 19 March 2023, 15:49:57
This is endgame.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: hali on Sun, 19 March 2023, 16:01:06
tres beau bonne chance avec ic
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Puree on Sun, 19 March 2023, 16:04:50
donne
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: mr_foggy on Sun, 19 March 2023, 16:45:06
quaso
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Xounette on Sun, 19 March 2023, 17:00:34
Magnifique
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Zyrophr on Sun, 19 March 2023, 17:05:13
Putain oui.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Lhiebig on Sun, 19 March 2023, 17:05:49
Now it’s up to all of us to make it real!
Thanks a lot for all the passion in this project.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Rafa_n on Sun, 19 March 2023, 17:55:44
I would also buy a 4 tulip caps kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: wt5now on Sun, 19 March 2023, 22:47:13
Looks good !!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: tomish on Mon, 20 March 2023, 02:31:29
Oué le fronce !
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: inviz on Mon, 20 March 2023, 03:48:52
I would also buy a 4 tulip caps kit

Please make the 4 tulip caps a kit. I’ll buy like 5

It is rather logical that this is not the case, i think.
If there was a Tulip kit, it would reach the MOQ without worrying.. whereas the azerty base kit (which is the cause of this initiative in the first place) would struggle to reach his MOQ (niche = tightly-knit but small community).
Putting the two together can help achieve the overall MOQ.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: iamtragic on Mon, 20 March 2023, 03:54:56
If an add-on kit isn't a viable option for MOQ reasons, would it be feasible to make it such that there are two sets of the pad printed tulip keys in base?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Alyse on Mon, 20 March 2023, 07:08:30
Incroyable, vive la France !
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: EnjoyMyInSec on Mon, 20 March 2023, 08:28:47
Vive la France.

Dommage pour les Dixie mods et la touche entrée qui a le combo text + icon.

Bon courage pour le projet ! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 20 March 2023, 09:28:47
Please make the 4 tulip caps a kit. I’ll buy like 5

I'd buy a bunch of them too if they offered just the Tulip set as a small child kit. I feel like while small child kits are usually counter productive to meeting MOQ in this instance it might actually help given the limited appeal of the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Delecomp on Mon, 20 March 2023, 11:24:14
Dixie Mods looks so weird but still good sets, glwic!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 20 March 2023, 11:26:01
tulip keys as kit plz
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: ryoh on Mon, 20 March 2023, 13:39:52
So good, glwic
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: luke2fr on Mon, 20 March 2023, 14:55:49
let’s go !
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: involuntarysoul on Tue, 21 March 2023, 02:28:54
NA vender?

Also tulip kit pretty please
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: zekth on Tue, 21 March 2023, 13:28:46
Novelkeys will be the NA vendor: https://novelkeys.com/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: BlivionIaG on Tue, 21 March 2023, 14:24:01
Trop bien, ça permet de faire vivre les petits shops randoms ricains :D (GG)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: herfalerf on Tue, 21 March 2023, 20:08:58
I wish the price point could be a bit lower, but i understand that this has limited appeal to most people.  that being said, the set looks absolutely awesome and ill likely pick it up.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: tulaine on Wed, 22 March 2023, 04:03:25
A dream come true, really happy to see this happen.
Vive l'azerty!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 22 March 2023, 04:14:36
Dixie Mods looks so weird but still good sets, glwic!
dixiemods are ungodly but hey WoB essentials is still running  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: NightFox99 on Wed, 22 March 2023, 13:16:41
I'll take several sets. Finally, it's been a long wait, thank you. With GMK Blot and it's French-Spanish around the corner, 2023 is THE year for french keyboard community enthusiasts.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: whirlwind on Wed, 22 March 2023, 14:02:39
Oh mon baguette, tres bien! :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 22 March 2023, 15:57:45
I just noticed there's no accent white Entrée. please consider adding it (provided it won't completely destroy the price)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: II_Versey on Sat, 25 March 2023, 20:32:09
MOQ going to be really hard to reach with a uncommon layout just pointing out
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: NightFox99 on Sun, 26 March 2023, 08:37:04
MOQ going to be really hard to reach with a uncommon layout just pointing out

Don't underestimate french layout using community  ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: lys.nordique on Sun, 26 March 2023, 09:05:53
Faque du coup, j'embarque.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: II_Versey on Sun, 26 March 2023, 23:04:37
MOQ going to be really hard to reach with a uncommon layout just pointing out

Don't underestimate french layout using community  ;D

I know I know but today, normal layouts are struggling to hit MOQ and now just limiting to the french layout makes it harder. The keyboard market/hobby wasn't popular as it was.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: BlivionIaG on Mon, 27 March 2023, 08:38:48
I can understand what you both are thinking from an outsider of the French community point of view, but it's a community project by the French community and to my eye, it's still relevant for us. personally I'll commit for multiple sets and I'm sure i am not the only one 😁.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: Adelscott on Mon, 27 March 2023, 09:54:46
I can understand what you both are thinking from an outsider of the French community point of view, but it's a community project by the French community and to my eye, it's still relevant for us. personally I'll commit for multiple sets and I'm sure i am not the only one 😁.

ceci
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: NightFox99 on Mon, 27 March 2023, 10:08:58
MOQ going to be really hard to reach with a uncommon layout just pointing out

Don't underestimate french layout using community  ;D

I know I know but today, normal layouts are struggling to hit MOQ and now just limiting to the french layout makes it harder. The keyboard market/hobby wasn't popular as it was.

You heard the other guy : it's a community project, a community of AZERTY layout users that has been ignored, also for a technical reason for sure. But now everyone's ready and it's not limited to the community tho, so be welcome if you want some "+33" unique key or "WoB Tulip"  ;D Multiple sets for me too !
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: inviz on Mon, 27 March 2023, 12:08:35
frenchies ego is too powerful ;D
MOQ will be reached, no matter what happens :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: mr_foggy on Mon, 27 March 2023, 15:50:59
MOQ going to be really hard to reach with a uncommon layout just pointing out
layout? set covers both ansi and iso. language "issue" at best, but most people in the hobby touch type and are all about the funky legends (most CRP sets aren't even EN and they sell a ****ton each round). I see no problems with this set hitting MOQ, especially given the tulip alphas. for people outside francophone countries it's a whole novelty WoB basekit lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: Mecxs on Tue, 28 March 2023, 01:00:28
If shipping to Australia isn't awful I would buy this for the chap key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: udller on Tue, 28 March 2023, 07:00:47
this might be the set thats gets me to buy a wob. it looks good, not the biggest fan of dixiemods though
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: Lucy Lumi on Tue, 28 March 2023, 07:26:18
Great idea :) So nice to see the community working together  :)
Bonne chance with the group buy :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: dededecline on Tue, 28 March 2023, 09:40:08
With NovelKeys on board, any chance of a MOQ increase/price decrease? I know some people have reservations about it being a niche language layout but plenty of those have been successful and this is a fun take on WoB. Wouldn't be surprised if it easily breezes past 150 with such a big vendor on board.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: dededecline on Tue, 28 March 2023, 09:44:59
Second thought, any chance of a second tab key being added? Would allow for configurations where these mods could go on two boards with one of them using a second set of alphas.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: involuntarysoul on Tue, 28 March 2023, 23:44:56
Second thought, any chance of a second tab key being added? Would allow for configurations where these mods could go on two boards with one of them using a second set of alphas.


imagining using 6.25U spacebar
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: Plasma on Wed, 29 March 2023, 14:40:26
The hype is real, can’t wait to buy and receive it
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: dededecline on Wed, 29 March 2023, 15:03:49
Second thought, any chance of a second tab key being added? Would allow for configurations where these mods could go on two boards with one of them using a second set of alphas.


imagining using 6.25U spacebar

(https://i.imgur.com/nMj7r3Z.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: deip on Thu, 30 March 2023, 03:11:31
Bonjour. Un keyset AZERTY ANSI, c'est magnifique ! Il me le faut, coûte que coûte.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: lys.nordique on Fri, 31 March 2023, 16:52:39
MOQ going to be really hard to reach with a uncommon layout just pointing out

Don't underestimate french layout using community  ;D

I know I know but today, normal layouts are struggling to hit MOQ and now just limiting to the french layout makes it harder. The keyboard market/hobby wasn't popular as it was.

Oh god, get out with your demotivating speech. Do you realize what you are saying? "just pointing out" How arrogant. Do you even know what is like to have a keyboard that doesn't type what it's written on the freaking keycaps?!?! French users(and probably others) have adapted to use the generic english layouts because that is 99.9% of what GMK groupbuys are and you are saying that this groupbuy also needs to be like that?!?!

That's literally indoctrination.

Let this french dedicated groupbuy going, these kind of comments are useless. If the groupbuy succeed, great and if it doesn't, at least we will have tried.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: kustom3 on Sat, 01 April 2023, 12:57:21
Howdy folks,

The French community is happy to announce that a compromise has been reached regarding the five people who were asking for a Tulip kit. Today is your lucky day!

For the unbelievably low price of €130, you'll receive not only the elusive Tulip keycaps you've been craving like some French fries, but also a treasure trove of extra French caps, because who doesn't love a little extra je ne sais quoi?

Don't miss out on this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to upgrade your keyboard and show off your refined taste in keycaps. Order now from April 11th to April 28th, and thank us later!

(https://i.imgur.com/4NgXUxf.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: Neely_12 on Sat, 01 April 2023, 20:58:35
Howdy folks,

The French community is happy to announce that a compromise has been reached regarding the five people who were asking for a Tulip kit. Today is your lucky day!

For the unbelievably low price of €130, you'll receive not only the elusive Tulip keycaps you've been craving like some French fries, but also a treasure trove of extra French caps, because who doesn't love a little extra je ne sais quoi?

Don't miss out on this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to upgrade your keyboard and show off your refined taste in keycaps. Order now from April 11th to April 28th, and thank us later!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/4NgXUxf.jpg)


 :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: NightFox99 on Sun, 02 April 2023, 05:45:25
Howdy folks,

The French community is happy to announce that a compromise has been reached regarding the five people who were asking for a Tulip kit. Today is your lucky day!

For the unbelievably low price of €130, you'll receive not only the elusive Tulip keycaps you've been craving like some French fries, but also a treasure trove of extra French caps, because who doesn't love a little extra je ne sais quoi?

Don't miss out on this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to upgrade your keyboard and show off your refined taste in keycaps. Order now from April 11th to April 28th, and thank us later!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/4NgXUxf.jpg)


 :)) :)) :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: involuntarysoul on Sun, 02 April 2023, 09:37:51
kind of odd that pgup and pgdn are icon and insert and delete are text, what is going on?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: Plaketdebeur on Sun, 02 April 2023, 11:08:13
It is the French layout that is like that.

https://kbdarchive.org/cherry/keyboard.html#314 or https://kbdarchive.org/cherry/keyboard.html#171 for exemple
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 11 April 2023, 16:00:22
GROUP BUY IS LIVE! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=120065.0)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: thieu75 on Tue, 11 April 2023, 17:47:30
Happy to report that I’m in!
And you should all do the same.

Ordered today in the European’s oblo Oblotzki.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: BlivionIaG on Fri, 21 April 2023, 16:02:56
MOQ going to be really hard to reach with a uncommon layout just pointing out

Don't underestimate french layout using community  ;D

I know I know but today, normal layouts are struggling to hit MOQ and now just limiting to the french layout makes it harder. The keyboard market/hobby wasn't popular as it was.

Reached MOQ ez, see + ratio
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: luke2fr on Sat, 22 April 2023, 05:08:33
I hear CHEH in my oreillette
Title: Re: [IC] GMK - Blanc Sur Noir - NEW NA VENDOR
Post by: zekth on Sat, 22 April 2023, 05:32:48
GROUP BUY IS LIVE! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=120065.0)