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Title: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:23:38
Hey guys -


I wanted to get this information out there, since the Cherokeys, and every sculpted key moving forward, will be using this system.


What is 'Tru-Bro ID'?

(http://i.imgur.com/v4iHeVN.jpg)


It's a serialization system with several important features:


1. Embedded serial in each key, with matching product serial card.


2. Each serial is tied in to your CTRL ALT account, and is redeemable (one-time only) for 5 Bro Points.


3. You can choose to not redeem the points if you plan to trade the cap.


4. You know it's an authentic Bro Caps product.


When you receive your Tru-Bro ID product, you will receive;


- A key with Tru-Bro ID
- A product card including the name of the product, and matching Tru-Bro ID with the Bro Caps embossed logo.


Bro Trade Depot:


Looking to trade your bro caps with other members safely? Just list them through the trade system. You can do a search for caps you are looking for
and put in trade offers.


This feature will be rolling out on CTRL ALT soon.


Bro Points System:


As stated above, there will be a new system rolling out that will allow you to redeem Bro Points for Caps, Gear or Swag.


More information will be released as we get closer to launching this.






Please feel free to provide feedback, but keep it constructive, please.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:25:39
Danq
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: romevi on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:25:45
That's pretty f'n awesome. Can't wait to get this with my first Bro Cap.  :thumb:

I thought it was a sticker at first, but you said it's embedded. So no chance of it coming off accidentally, right?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:27:01
So no chance of it coming off accidentally, right?


No sir, it is embedded within the cap. It will not peel off :)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Badwrench on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:27:19
Very clean.  I particularly like the idea of a trade depot  :thumb:

Keep up the great work Bro. 
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: byker on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:27:31
I like the idea bro! Keep up the good innovation.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: romevi on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:28:51
So no chance of it coming off accidentally, right?


No sir, it is embedded within the cap. It will not peel off :)

Sweet...  :-*
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: fliptrik on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:29:46
Sorry. Maybe I don't understand. Does it cost 5 Bro Points to redeem the serial? Or you receive 5 Bro Points?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:31:11
Nice.  I've been wanting to see certificates of authenticity due to shadiness, but this really steps it up a notch.

Next up, Brokémon cards.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:31:33
Yeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: trees on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:31:52
Nice.  I've been wanting to see certificates of authenticity due to shadiness, but this really steps it up a notch.

Next up, Brokémon cards.

Emphasis on the "Broke"
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:33:30
Sorry. Maybe I don't understand. Does it cost 5 Bro Points to redeem the serial? Or you receive 5 Bro Points?


So when you receive your new cap, it has 5 bro points attached to it. You can then redeem the points towards products. Those points are attached to your CTRL ALT account, so you will see a 'current points' indicator in your account info.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: romevi on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:33:45
Sorry. Maybe I don't understand. Does it cost 5 Bro Points to redeem the serial? Or you receive 5 Bro Points?

No, the serial gives you five Bro Points to spend toward any CtrlAlt purchase. Probably not a whole lot toward real currency value, but collect enough official Bro Caps and you may save for big things!
Just like AmiAmi points!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Invaderevan on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:35:28
NEAT!

So the new system will only be for caps that have BRO-IDs?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: btctopre on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:37:51
this is rad
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:37:53
Sorry. Maybe I don't understand. Does it cost 5 Bro Points to redeem the serial? Or you receive 5 Bro Points?


So when you receive your new cap, it has 5 bro points attached to it. You can then redeem the points towards products. Those points are attached to your CTRL ALT account, so you will see a 'current points' indicator in your account info.

we are also working on a system where these points can be transferred if you trade the cap, they will only be transferable however with the cap, and not on there own
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: fliptrik on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:39:09
Sorry. Maybe I don't understand. Does it cost 5 Bro Points to redeem the serial? Or you receive 5 Bro Points?


So when you receive your new cap, it has 5 bro points attached to it. You can then redeem the points towards products. Those points are attached to your CTRL ALT account, so you will see a 'current points' indicator in your account info.

Ahhhh. Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: inanis on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:42:03
This is really cool.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: ShardZer0 on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:42:42
I think this is a great idea! Pretty slick lookin too.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:45:59
Holy ****... But wai- god damnit hahaha teh v1 reaperonies!!!

hahaha sick system tho mate, the fact that **** is embedded and it's all linked is proper cool. Maybe I'll have to broaden my horizons ^-^
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:47:44
Nice.  I've been wanting to see certificates of authenticity due to shadiness, but this really steps it up a notch.

Next up, Brokémon cards.

Emphasis on the "Broke"

Only if you decide that you have to catch them all.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:49:01
I have literally spent hours and hours on Brokenon cards that I've yet to actually make look even half as decent as what Bro has put together haha but it was good fun
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: FreeCopy on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:49:27
Sorry. Maybe I don't understand. Does it cost 5 Bro Points to redeem the serial? Or you receive 5 Bro Points?


So when you receive your new cap, it has 5 bro points attached to it. You can then redeem the points towards products. Those points are attached to your CTRL ALT account, so you will see a 'current points' indicator in your account info.

we are also working on a system where these points can be transferred if you trade the cap, they will only be transferable however with the cap, and not on there own

Thanks. My question was trading a cap to someone for their points while keeping your own. One person has 10 points, no caps, other person in trade has 2 caps, no points.

Great idea, Bro, and implemented really clean.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: tchevass on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:53:21
Some bro swag omg I can't wait to get some
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: ika on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:53:35
Neat!

Looking for clarification on this point:
Quote
3. You can choose to not redeem the points if you plan to trade the cap.

In other words, you can decide to give the receiver of your cap the 5 bro points attached to this? Is there any real reason to do this aside from attaching a 5-point incentive to your trade fodder? EDIT: answered above... I think?

Also, will this be visible through transparent caps, assuming those are ever going to be made again?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Fire Brand on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:54:45
Awesome ALTHOUGH What does it look like on a Trans coloured keycap? as having a large metallic sticker on something clear might be a turn off :X
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:56:35
Wow, this is some pretty cool innovation here, Bro.  Excited to see how this pans out.  :thumb:


But...
All those Bro Point I've missed out on already!  :|
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:56:46
Neat!

Looking for clarification on this point:
Quote
3. You can choose to not redeem the points if you plan to trade the cap.

In other words, you can decide to give the receiver of your cap the 5 bro points attached to this? Is there any real reason to do this aside from attaching a 5-point incentive to your trade fodder? EDIT: answered above... I think?

Also, will this be visible through transparent caps, assuming those are ever going to be made again?


It would add some value to your trade, but I would expect most people will want to redeem the point, regardless.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:57:20
Awesome ALTHOUGH What does it look like on a Trans coloured keycap? as having a large metallic sticker on something clear might be a turn off :X


It will be on the bottom and sitting above the actual switch, so you won't really notice it, and won't affect the aesthetic of the cap.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 12:57:48

All those Bro Point I've missed out on already!  :|


RIP
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:02:17
BTW, I am on IRC and you can put your 'big brother' worries to rest.


We aren't tracking anyone, it's simply a way to ensure it's original source is credible. You are free to trade it outside of the system, and to whomever you wish.


Your info is already there when you purchase anything from CTRL ALT. It's not like we are taking any more information. It just shows that you were the original owner/purchaser of that product.


A lot of thought went into this, and to dumb it down with your conspiracy theories is sad. :(
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:04:56
Bro point... leader boards? Let the battle for that Alpha Bromega status begin  :cool:
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: absyrd on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:07:08
Will the consumer see a cost increase due to you being forced to take this step/upgrade?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: ika on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:07:32
BTW, I am on IRC and you can put your 'big brother' worries to rest.


We aren't tracking anyone, it's simply a way to ensure it's original source is credible. You are free to trade it outside of the system, and to whomever you wish.


Your info is already there when you purchase anything from CTRL ALT. It's not like we are taking any more information. It just shows that you were the original owner/purchaser of that product.


A lot of thought went into this, and to dumb it down with your conspiracy theories is sad. :(

I wonder if you called it a Certificate of Authenticity it might sound a little less "NSA". COA was the first thing that came to mind but it sounded a bit more like a tracking scheme than a "genuine product" marker.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:07:44
Will the consumer see a cost increase due to you being forced to take this step/upgrade?


No.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:08:06
BTW, I am on IRC and you can put your 'big brother' worries to rest.


We aren't tracking anyone, it's simply a way to ensure it's original source is credible. You are free to trade it outside of the system, and to whomever you wish.


Your info is already there when you purchase anything from CTRL ALT. It's not like we are taking any more information. It just shows that you were the original owner/purchaser of that product.


A lot of thought went into this, and to dumb it down with your conspiracy theories is sad. :(

time for a tin-foil hat cap bro :P
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:08:32
BTW, I am on IRC and you can put your 'big brother' worries to rest.


We aren't tracking anyone, it's simply a way to ensure it's original source is credible. You are free to trade it outside of the system, and to whomever you wish.


Your info is already there when you purchase anything from CTRL ALT. It's not like we are taking any more information. It just shows that you were the original owner/purchaser of that product.


A lot of thought went into this, and to dumb it down with your conspiracy theories is sad. :(

I wonder if you called it a Certificate of Authenticity it might sound a little less "NSA". COA was the first thing that came to mind but it sounded a bit more like a tracking scheme than a "genuine product" marker.


I am sorry if you are having an issue with the name, but that's really all it is, is a certificate. So you can put your theories to rest :)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: whmeltonjr on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:08:35
BTW, I am on IRC and you can put your 'big brother' worries to rest.


We aren't tracking anyone, it's simply a way to ensure it's original source is credible. You are free to trade it outside of the system, and to whomever you wish.


Your info is already there when you purchase anything from CTRL ALT. It's not like we are taking any more information. It just shows that you were the original owner/purchaser of that product.


A lot of thought went into this, and to dumb it down with your conspiracy theories is sad. :(

I was just about to put my tinfoil hat on and type a lengthy reply. Thanks for spoiling the fun.  ;D

I like the incentive and authenticity system. Sounds like a great idea.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:08:57
BTW, I am on IRC and you can put your 'big brother' worries to rest.


We aren't tracking anyone, it's simply a way to ensure it's original source is credible. You are free to trade it outside of the system, and to whomever you wish.


Your info is already there when you purchase anything from CTRL ALT. It's not like we are taking any more information. It just shows that you were the original owner/purchaser of that product.


A lot of thought went into this, and to dumb it down with your conspiracy theories is sad. :(

time for a tin-foil hat cap bro :p


(http://i.imgur.com/TMuiJgS.jpg)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: swill on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:09:42
Very cool.  I know this system has taken a lot of work to implement, so good job everyone.  The web based backend is no small feat for this functionality so kudos to whoever is doing it.  I am assuming it is probably codyeatworld. 

Well done to everyone involved.  Keep up the good work...
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: inanis on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:11:43
BTW, I am on IRC and you can put your 'big brother' worries to rest.


We aren't tracking anyone, it's simply a way to ensure it's original source is credible. You are free to trade it outside of the system, and to whomever you wish.


Your info is already there when you purchase anything from CTRL ALT. It's not like we are taking any more information. It just shows that you were the original owner/purchaser of that product.


A lot of thought went into this, and to dumb it down with your conspiracy theories is sad. :(

I wonder if you called it a Certificate of Authenticity it might sound a little less "NSA". COA was the first thing that came to mind but it sounded a bit more like a tracking scheme than a "genuine product" marker.

I'm a pretty paranoid, "don't track me" type of person, and this thought never even entered my mind. I mean, they already know who bought the caps. This does nothing but help someone prove it is authentic. If it is the points thing that makes you go to "they are tracking me" that sounds entirely optional to move with the cap. Maybe I'm misunderstanding?
Title: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: jbondeson on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:12:06
BTW, I am on IRC and you can put your 'big brother' worries to rest.


We aren't tracking anyone, it's simply a way to ensure it's original source is credible. You are free to trade it outside of the system, and to whomever you wish.


Your info is already there when you purchase anything from CTRL ALT. It's not like we are taking any more information. It just shows that you were the original owner/purchaser of that product.


A lot of thought went into this, and to dumb it down with your conspiracy theories is sad. :(

Ok, so I was the primary person who brought that up that the serial number idea bothers me in irc, and I wasn't going to even bring it up in this thread cause there was no need to bring it into here.

You could have addressed it there, but since you brought it here, yes the thought of one more thing individually tracked and tied to an individual is not comforting. And this is coming from someone who uses his own name on a public forum.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:14:43
BTW, I am on IRC and you can put your 'big brother' worries to rest.


We aren't tracking anyone, it's simply a way to ensure it's original source is credible. You are free to trade it outside of the system, and to whomever you wish.


Your info is already there when you purchase anything from CTRL ALT. It's not like we are taking any more information. It just shows that you were the original owner/purchaser of that product.


A lot of thought went into this, and to dumb it down with your conspiracy theories is sad. :(

I wonder if you called it a Certificate of Authenticity it might sound a little less "NSA". COA was the first thing that came to mind but it sounded a bit more like a tracking scheme than a "genuine product" marker.

I'm a pretty paranoid, "don't track me" type of person, and this thought never even entered my mind. I mean, they already know who bought the caps. This does nothing but help someone prove it is authentic. If it is the points thing that makes you go to "they are tracking me" that sounds entirely optional to move with the cap. Maybe I'm misunderstanding?


So when you purchase anything on CTRL ALT, and pretty much anywhere else, your information about the order is saved into your account. This isn't any different.
The bro points are just adding points towards purchasing something in your account. Once they are redeemed, they are yours and have nothing to do with the cap
you purchased to get them.


The ID is just an authentication to its origin.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: ika on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:14:54
I am sorry if you are having an issue with the name, but that's really all it is, is a certificate. So you can put your theories to rest :)

sorry didn't mean to imply that I personally had an issue with the name. just thinking that if you called it a certificate in the OP there would be less misunderstanding.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: absyrd on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:16:09
We are getting a FREE authentication service, FREE bonus for buying real Bro Caps.

They only "track" you if you choose to pass on the cap with the ID not already redeemed. Who cares?

I hope the tinfoil hat wearers never post pics of their gets/collections. That'd be very dangerous.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:16:15
This is a great step forward.

I'm sure a lot of us were hoping for a sort of tracking system, but this is more than I imagined.

Great work!

Excited to see the swag we can get with these new points :)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: PunksDead on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:16:45
Hell yes, I can trade/buy second hand bros again! This is fantastic, sucks it had to come to this but it gives me some piece of mind
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:16:57
BTW, I am on IRC and you can put your 'big brother' worries to rest.


We aren't tracking anyone, it's simply a way to ensure it's original source is credible. You are free to trade it outside of the system, and to whomever you wish.


Your info is already there when you purchase anything from CTRL ALT. It's not like we are taking any more information. It just shows that you were the original owner/purchaser of that product.


A lot of thought went into this, and to dumb it down with your conspiracy theories is sad. :(

Ok, so I was the primary person who brought that up that the serial number idea bothers me in irc, and I wasn't going to even bring it up in this thread cause there was no need to bring it into here.

You could have addressed it there, but since you brought it here, yes the thought of one more thing individually tracked and tied to an individual is not comforting. And this is coming from someone who uses his own name on a public forum.


It's not tied in terms of tracking something, it's tied in terms of origin. Meaning you could know it's an authentic part because you can prove your purchase through your purchase history.


I would prefer to address it here, and not IRC because this is where people need to get all the information they need.


Appreciate your concerns and feedback. If you feel wording is off, then by all means, I am open to feedback on that, as well.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: inanis on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:21:58

So when you purchase anything on CTRL ALT, and pretty much anywhere else, your information about the order is saved into your account. This isn't any different.
The bro points are just adding points towards purchasing something in your account. Once they are redeemed, they are yours and have nothing to do with the cap
you purchased to get them.


The ID is just an authentication to its origin.

This is exactly how I took it. I see this as a real positive thing. I mean, on several occasions authenticity has been called into question because of shady characters. It makes all the sense in the world to protect the buyer and future buyers in trades. All kinds of stuff has a CoA of some variety, why not this? And as I mentioned before, this looks pretty cool too.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: PunksDead on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:25:31
the conspiracy cry is from people pissed off they can no longer flip the caps for profit and continue to do so w/o getting caught.

Your damn iPhones have a serial number and you worry about tracking? Your receipts from stores have a tracking number. Everything we own can be traced back to us by the government. Why are people worried about this?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: jbondeson on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:46:53

Your damn iPhones have a serial number and you worry about tracking? Your receipts from stores have a tracking number. Everything we own can be traced back to us by the government. Why are people worried about this?

This is an odd thought process and is kinda at the heart of why I personally had a very negative visceral reaction when I first saw this. Simply because much of our lives can be tracked and many people don't care doesn't mean no one should ever care.

It's like when people say "if you have nothing to hide you shouldn't worry about privacy invasions" Its a fallacious argument.

I'm not worried that Bunny and Bro are suddenly going to start becoming the NSA, I simply disagree on principle with adding one more thing to the ever increasing list of data trackable to an individual.

Are there bigger issues out there? Yeah, which is why I made a couple comments in irc (and a DeBeersCaps joke). But to just call it tin foil is completely unfounded.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: admiralvorian on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:48:05
this is some next-level ****, gg.

The privacy considerations here are minimal. It's just a serial number.

I'm sure there are some up-front+honest collectors that this may rub the wrong way, and shady-ass cap flippers will not like it either... regardless: if you don't like it then don't participate / buy caps.

All things considered I really like the idea!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Sed8op8 on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:50:26
This is some next level **** haha trade depot idea love it
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: linkshine on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:50:31
Really good idea! Thats pretty sweet
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: baldgye on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:51:19

Your damn iPhones have a serial number and you worry about tracking? Your receipts from stores have a tracking number. Everything we own can be traced back to us by the government. Why are people worried about this?

This is an odd thought process and is kinda at the heart of why I personally had a very negative visceral reaction when I first saw this. Simply because much of our lives can be tracked and many people don't care doesn't mean no one should ever care.

It's like when people say "if you have nothing to hide you shouldn't worry about privacy invasions" Its a fallacious argument.

I'm not worried that Bunny and Bro are suddenly going to start becoming the NSA, I simply disagree on principle with adding one more thing to the ever increasing list of data trackable to an individual.

Are there bigger issues out there? Yeah, which is why I made a couple comments in irc (and a DeBeersCaps joke). But to just call it tin foil is completely unfounded.

But BroCaps were already traceable through trades... I know from personal experience that I was able to verify a bunch of Reapers I traded and bought by asking who the person got them from etc etc
All this does is make it harder for scum to 'clone' Bro's work...
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: jerue on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:53:49
This is awesome, Bro. Excited about those points :)

and again,

Your damn iPhones have a serial number and you worry about tracking? Your receipts from stores have a tracking number. Everything we own can be traced back to us by the government. Why are people worried about this?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: DrCr4nK on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:54:59
Neat!  Can't wait to try it all out.  :D
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Fire Brand on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:56:46
@ika when you said COA I thought of a windows COA, so my question is for bro;

Do I need to call you up to activate my brocap before being used on my board? XD

But serious time now, will this trading system by chance also facilitate adding a tracking number when something is sent, so you see if anyone actually sent something just to stop people scamming others?
And AND will this now having numbers also work into a system like Baldgye and VesperSAINT made with a gallery of all the keys released afterwords? :D
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: admiralvorian on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:57:17
Your damn iPhones have a serial number and you worry about tracking? Your receipts from stores have a tracking number. Everything we own can be traced back to us by the government. Why are people worried about this?




In this context, it's a business/artisan/community thing and Bro+Ctrlalt are trying to take their craft to the next level. If it makes someone uncomfortable, let them complain and then abstain - better chance for me to get a cap!

BUT

Just because "individually-identifiable tracking" is ubiquitous doesn't mean people should be comfortable with it. From my perspective, these little hobby plastics are nothing like government-sponsored mass-spying so I'm buying-in! Bring on the trade depot!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:58:21
This is awesome!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 13:59:19
But serious time now, will this trading system by chance also facilitate adding a tracking number when something is sent, so you see if anyone actually sent something just to stop people scamming others?
And AND will this now having numbers also work into a system like Baldgye and VesperSAINT made with a gallery of all the keys released afterwords? :D


We are still working out the details on this, but essentially it's just a trade facilitation. Once the packages have been shipped, both parties can enter the tracking numbers into the trade transaction page. Then when they receive them, they can mark them as 'received'. When both members mark them as received, it will mark the transaction as 'successfully completed'.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: admiralvorian on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:00:15
But serious time now, will this trading system by chance also facilitate adding a tracking number when something is sent, so you see if anyone actually sent something just to stop people scamming others?
And AND will this now having numbers also work into a system like Baldgye and VesperSAINT made with a gallery of all the keys released afterwords? :D


We are still working out the details on this, but essentially it's just a trade facilitation. Once the packages have been shipped, both parties can enter the tracking numbers into the trade transaction page. Then when they receive them, they can mark them as 'received'. When both members mark them as received, it will mark the transaction as 'successfully completed'.

This is a way better system than Reddit's "post your trade here" method :\
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:00:41
the conspiracy cry is from people pissed off they can no longer flip the caps for profit and continue to do so w/o getting caught.

Exactly this.  Any rational market for a good like this should embrace means of authenticating the good as legitimate.  The outcries are just from people paranoid that they'll get caught.  If they actually bothered to understand everything here, they'd see that that isn't really true since it's all opt in, even if I do wish it was.  The benefit of opting in is being able to show accurate provenance along with the ID. Provenance is something I love to have.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: ghostjuggernaut on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:01:40
Big ups Bro.

I like the idea, and am looking forward to it.

If you, Bunny, Cody, Sent, Tym, or Margo wanna swing by my house and drink a beer or 7, feel free.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:01:41
But serious time now, will this trading system by chance also facilitate adding a tracking number when something is sent, so you see if anyone actually sent something just to stop people scamming others?
And AND will this now having numbers also work into a system like Baldgye and VesperSAINT made with a gallery of all the keys released afterwords? :D


We are still working out the details on this, but essentially it's just a trade facilitation. Once the packages have been shipped, both parties can enter the tracking numbers into the trade transaction page. Then when they receive them, they can mark them as 'received'. When both members mark them as received, it will mark the transaction as 'successfully completed'.

This is a way better system than Reddit's "post your trade here" method :\


Well, we are not discouraging trading through traditional means, but we feel this is a nicer way of finding trades without having to bump threads, scroll through tons of other things you aren't interested in reading, etc.



Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: ripwallet on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:04:22
Bro stepping it up this is awesome. Now if only i could get a brocap >.<
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: joey on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:05:38
Have you added support for giving caps away? Happens somewhat frequently.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:06:37
Have you added support for giving caps away? Happens somewhat frequently.


If they don't already have a CTRL ALT account, they can just sign up and we will add the info to their account for them.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: CommonCurt on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:06:56
Sounds good to me.  I look forward to seeing it in action.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Zorberema on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:11:18
Really good step against fakes; very well executed as well, it looks awesome! When will further details release, like some information on how many Bro Points you need to trade into another product/ what those products will be? :)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Fire Brand on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:12:23
But serious time now, will this trading system by chance also facilitate adding a tracking number when something is sent, so you see if anyone actually sent something just to stop people scamming others?
And AND will this now having numbers also work into a system like Baldgye and VesperSAINT made with a gallery of all the keys released afterwords? :D


We are still working out the details on this, but essentially it's just a trade facilitation. Once the packages have been shipped, both parties can enter the tracking numbers into the trade transaction page. Then when they receive them, they can mark them as 'received'. When both members mark them as received, it will mark the transaction as 'successfully completed'.
Sounds pretty awesome though, I'm pretty awks when it comes to trades and always worry so I kinda like I would have a official route to do it, although the two I have traded with where stellar people! Anyway keep up the good work bro.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: romevi on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:20:49
The first time I read this I saw this as just a means of a Certificate of Authenticity, e.g. Never did I think of it as a means of privacy intrusion.

Subsequently, Bro & Co. will be able to pinpoint, if at all, who's selling theirs for an extreme profit, or abuse their caps in any other way, and possibly ban/warn them from/of future sales, should they wish to do so. I guess the only way they can do that is become notified of a marked-up sale, see some pics of the certificate, and see who originally owned that number.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:23:55
The paranoia is funny.  It's not like he's embedding passive GPS trackers in them...or is he?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: switchnollie on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:30:57
Oh a rewards system! ;D

Like with visa etc very cool & good idea.

I also like how the serial looks.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Air tree on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:32:06
I'm boycotting Brocaps from now on. This has to be some kind of ploy to catch me masturbating.  >:D
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:39:50
This has to be some kind of ploy to catch me masturbating.  >:D


Actually, we have embedded micro cameras in The Rustler to do just that.


(http://i.imgur.com/VQ62Ps9.jpg)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: calvinhousecat on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:42:13
Looking forward for a Gold Bro Card like my Gold Starbucks Card :D
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: livingspeedbump on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:45:33
Damn. This is both impressive and totally awesome. Good move  :thumb:
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:46:18
Have you added support for giving caps away? Happens somewhat frequently.


If they don't already have a CTRL ALT account, they can just sign up and we will add the info to their account for them.

This, well actually e-mail sales but same theory, was my first and only concern (I pretty much have a tinfoil hat but ctrl alt are not the government...) so glad it's covered.

I do think the shininess will look a little out of place on my "traditional" Cherokey though :))
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:46:25
this is the most logical thing to hit Geekhack since...

well, there's practically nothing logical about Geekhack...
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: romevi on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:46:28
Looking forward for a Gold Bro Card like my Gold Starbucks Card :D

Pff. I have one of those. But do you also have a Costco Executive card?
And I'm not talking about a regular Executive card; I'm talking about Executive Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikidou paths ability) equipped with its Gunbai and control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, a complete Susano'o, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in its barcode so it can perform Mokuton kekkei genkai and yin-yang release ninjutsu as well as being extremely skilled in taijutsu and bukijutsu.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: nubbinator on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:47:53
This has to be some kind of ploy to catch me masturbating.  >:D


Actually, we have embedded micro cameras in The Rustler to do just that.


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VQ62Ps9.jpg)


Good thing I'm an exhibitionist.

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6457p3nd01rwcc6bo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:49:31
Innovation at its best. Always at the forefront. Keep up the amazing work, Bro.

(http://i.imgur.com/3CzEnu0.jpg)(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02956/topgun_2956773b.jpg)
(https://ohinvertedworldclub.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/tom-cruise-gives-thumbs-up.jpg?w=730)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:51:12
Innovation at its best. Always at the forefront. Keep up the amazing work, Bro.
Show Image
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(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02956/topgun_2956773b.jpg)

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(https://ohinvertedworldclub.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/tom-cruise-gives-thumbs-up.jpg?w=730)

y u gotta get me started bro

(http://i.imgur.com/ke72Ksr.gif)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:53:55
halp I thin I'm lost

(https://media.giphy.com/media/cyNYYuprfgL84/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: VesperSAINT on Wed, 30 September 2015, 14:55:34
y u gotta get me started bro

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BC DATZ HOW I DO. DATZ HOW I ROLL.

(http://static.businessinsider.com/image/5515af336bb3f798788e52ef/image.gif)


halp I thin I'm lost

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(https://media.giphy.com/media/cyNYYuprfgL84/giphy.gif)


(https://media.giphy.com/media/gpufDFw0sPBYY/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: dustinhxc on Wed, 30 September 2015, 15:08:15
Holy crap just like microsoft! So sick BRO!  :cool:  :thumb:


This has to be some kind of ploy to catch me masturbating.  >:D


Actually, we have embedded micro cameras in The Rustler to do just that.


Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/VQ62Ps9.jpg)


hahahah
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: clacktalk on Wed, 30 September 2015, 15:10:38
this is v nice. definitely a step forward
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 30 September 2015, 15:20:45
Wow!

How to turn a negative situation into a positive one! :D
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Glissant on Wed, 30 September 2015, 15:24:39
I love this new system. Way to innovate, Bro Caps :)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: thefebruaryman on Wed, 30 September 2015, 15:42:47
I think it's a great idea. But you should do one better and cast a raid tag into the caps. Have a batch made up and have different batch numbers for differnt types of caps
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: PunksDead on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:17:10
Will I be able to log in all my awesome moonpuhs & shiniami caps to trade for BroCaps on the site?

 :)) :)) :))

I'm sorry bro<33

Don't ban me

Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:17:24
I simply disagree on principle with adding one more thing to the ever increasing list of data trackable to an individual.

I'm sorry if this seems like I'm picking on you, but I just want to understand the viewpoint.

This seems to me to be a very opt-in program, so I don't quite understand the concern.  If you don't want CtrlAlt knowing you've purchased a cap from someone, can't you just not tell them?  There's no way they can force you...  This is just a way to know that it's genuine.  Or am I missing something here?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: absyrd on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:19:43
You ain't missing ****, Hoff.

Totally up to the consumer to participate.

The only one who knows you bought a genuine Bro is CA, and they would know anyways because they sold it to you.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:26:08
I simply disagree on principle with adding one more thing to the ever increasing list of data trackable to an individual.

I'm sorry if this seems like I'm picking on you, but I just want to understand the viewpoint.

This seems to me to be a very opt-in program, so I don't quite understand the concern.  If you don't want CtrlAlt knowing you've purchased a cap from someone, can't you just not tell them?  There's no way they can force you...  This is just a way to know that it's genuine.  Or am I missing something here?

omgerd cant we hav sum privasee from the keyboard gesstapo
i dont want the en ess ay noing about my artizansss
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: rpeterclark on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:36:58
This seems more like a points system than an authenticity mechanism. Those hologram stickers readily available and easy to recreate. A counterfeiter would only need to buy one  key and then resell that serial repeatedly.

The points are a fun idea though!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:43:50
This seems more like a points system than an authenticity mechanism. Those hologram stickers readily available and easy to recreate. A counterfeiter would only need to buy one  key and then resell that serial repeatedly.

The points are a fun idea though!

These ain't no stickers, son.

So no chance of it coming off accidentally, right?

No sir, it is embedded within the cap. It will not peel off :)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: nathanrosspowell on Wed, 30 September 2015, 16:48:11
This seems more like a points system than an authenticity mechanism. Those hologram stickers readily available and easy to recreate. A counterfeiter would only need to buy one  key and then resell that serial repeatedly.

The points are a fun idea though!

I don't understand your train of thought.

For example if I had cap #007 and kept selling duplicates of it, people would most definitely know. Where would I even advertise such a sale/trade?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 17:06:27
This seems more like a points system than an authenticity mechanism. Those hologram stickers readily available and easy to recreate. A counterfeiter would only need to buy one  key and then resell that serial repeatedly.

The points are a fun idea though!

Actually, each number is specifically tied in with the cap style and stem type. So you can't simply guess numbers and try to pass them off. Every number can be verified. I can also speak more on the holograms themselves and the distinguishing factors. These aren't cheap off the shelf solutions.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 17:06:50
I simply disagree on principle with adding one more thing to the ever increasing list of data trackable to an individual.

I'm sorry if this seems like I'm picking on you, but I just want to understand the viewpoint.

This seems to me to be a very opt-in program, so I don't quite understand the concern.  If you don't want CtrlAlt knowing you've purchased a cap from someone, can't you just not tell them?  There's no way they can force you...  This is just a way to know that it's genuine.  Or am I missing something here?

you are literally giving us no more data than we already have

the id numbers are just there so you know your product is genuine, purchasing the cap from ctrl alt will be no different than it has been before

you can still trade the caps anyway you want, without logging any numbers etc

the bro points you can think of as a loyalty scheme, we simply want to give back to the people who support us

the trade hub is totally different, we are simply giving people the utility to trade caps, so you can match up with people who want the cap you have, and have the cap you want, rather than going through the frustrating process of posting a classifieds ad and dealing with tons of people offering you things you dont want

we are simply helping facilitate that, but we will not stop you trading any other way you want

Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: jbondeson on Wed, 30 September 2015, 17:18:24

I simply disagree on principle with adding one more thing to the ever increasing list of data trackable to an individual.

I'm sorry if this seems like I'm picking on you, but I just want to understand the viewpoint.

This seems to me to be a very opt-in program, so I don't quite understand the concern.  If you don't want CtrlAlt knowing you've purchased a cap from someone, can't you just not tell them?  There's no way they can force you...  This is just a way to know that it's genuine.  Or am I missing something here?

I have no problem having a rational discussion around my views, so there's nothing to be sorry about.

So the weaker version of this authentication method which would be privacy preserving would be to have authentication stickers that simply have a model ID on them, e.g. "ChemBroV2" or a model #. This would allow an anonymous cap to be verified with a few pics. I assume this was rejected because if you fake the sticker you can pass it off as genuine.

Now let's talk about serial numbered caps. Theoretically this solves the problem, except the serial numbers aren't secret, you have to take a picture and send it to someone so they know it's genuine. But here's the rub, if it's not a secret someone could simply dupe a serial number and sticker. So here's where the trade depot comes in, it's all authenticated and chain of custody is tracked! But then we're back to the previous problem for everyone else. So if you have a cap that has spent time off the grid it's suspicious.

And from the reaction to me for even thinking there's an issue, you can imagine what will be said "oh you traded off the depot, do you have something to hide???"

Again I don't think this is ill intentioned I just do not like the direction.

Personally I think the first is acceptable, but find the second not. We all get choices, happens to be mine.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: rpeterclark on Wed, 30 September 2015, 17:21:12
This seems more like a points system than an authenticity mechanism. Those hologram stickers readily available and easy to recreate. A counterfeiter would only need to buy one  key and then resell that serial repeatedly.

The points are a fun idea though!

Actually, each number is specifically tied in with the cap style and stem type. So you can't simply guess numbers and try to pass them off. Every number can be verified. I can also speak more on the holograms themselves and the distinguishing factors. These aren't cheap off the shelf solutions.

I stand corrected then! Nice work!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Fire Brand on Wed, 30 September 2015, 17:21:39
ohh ohh I just wanted to ask you know since the bro points is a thing, will we get a point for just participating in a sale but not winning anything so for example people that are like 0/10 still have a few points and get some cool swag like a keychain?


Also Bro point lottery please, but more the first question so losers can still be winners, because being a loser isn't that bad :3
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 17:25:53

I simply disagree on principle with adding one more thing to the ever increasing list of data trackable to an individual.

I'm sorry if this seems like I'm picking on you, but I just want to understand the viewpoint.

This seems to me to be a very opt-in program, so I don't quite understand the concern.  If you don't want CtrlAlt knowing you've purchased a cap from someone, can't you just not tell them?  There's no way they can force you...  This is just a way to know that it's genuine.  Or am I missing something here?

I have no problem having a rational discussion around my views, so there's nothing to be sorry about.

So the weaker version of this authentication method which would be privacy preserving would be to have authentication stickers that simply have a model ID on them, e.g. "ChemBroV2" or a model #. This would allow an anonymous cap to be verified with a few pics. I assume this was rejected because if you fake the sticker you can pass it off as genuine.

Now let's talk about serial numbered caps. Theoretically this solves the problem, except the serial numbers aren't secret, you have to take a picture and send it to someone so they know it's genuine. But here's the rub, if it's not a secret someone could simply dupe a serial number and sticker. So here's where the trade depot comes in, it's all authenticated and chain of custody is tracked! But then we're back to the previous problem for everyone else. So if you have a cap that has spent time off the grid it's suspicious.

And from the reaction to me for even thinking there's an issue, you can imagine what will be said "oh you traded off the depot, do you have something to hide???"

Again I don't think this is ill intentioned I just do not like the direction.

Personally I think the first is acceptable, but find the second not. We all get choices, happens to be mine.

i think you severely underestimate how hard it would be to duplicate these at such a quality you could get away with whilst being cost effective, even to after market prices

everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you are thinking way to hard about this, and completely missing the point

Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: swimmingbird on Wed, 30 September 2015, 17:33:27
I think we should all be far more concerned about Bro obviously being on the drug from "Limitless" with the latest reveals
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Bomble on Wed, 30 September 2015, 18:35:33
This seems really great to me. Especially because prices are remaining the same. :cool:
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: jbondeson on Wed, 30 September 2015, 18:38:29

i think you severely underestimate how hard it would be to duplicate these at such a quality you could get away with whilst being cost effective, even to after market prices

Ok, that simply reinforces my feeling in that a unique serial number would be overkill to prevent successful (and profitable) counterfeiting.

everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you are thinking way to hard about this, and completely missing the point

(This isn't directed solely at you and more my exasperation at the complete overreaction of some people)

I don't know how many times I need to reiterate that I don't think you or Bro are doing anything underhanded, untoward, and instead have the best intentions. I don't know why everyone is having difficulty understanding the fact that I can agree with a motive but not with a method. The examples of unintended consequences are legion.

Either way, it's no fun shouting into the wind, and it seems like the vocal majority of your customers likes it so best of luck on the new method.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: BunnyLake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 18:43:11

i think you severely underestimate how hard it would be to duplicate these at such a quality you could get away with whilst being cost effective, even to after market prices

Ok, that simply reinforces my feeling in that a unique serial number would be overkill to prevent successful (and profitable) counterfeiting.

everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you are thinking way to hard about this, and completely missing the point

(This isn't directed solely at you and more my exasperation at the complete overreaction of some people)

I don't know how many times I need to reiterate that I don't think you or Bro are doing anything underhanded, untoward, and instead have the best intentions. I don't know why everyone is having difficulty understanding the fact that I can agree with a motive but not with a method. The examples of unintended consequences are legion.

Either way, it's no fun shouting into the wind, and it seems like the vocal majority of your customers likes it so best of luck on the new method.

i think a point i wanted to get across but didnt, is this is just introducing the concept, but that you should reserve judgement, and theories, until it is all implemented and in action, as points you raised will be a non issue
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: atectatifern on Wed, 30 September 2015, 18:50:09
Next sale: Bronie Babies (I kid, I kid!)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 30 September 2015, 18:50:40
Very cool. Finally I can stop cutting out Bro logos from those USPS boxes. I can now collect hologram Bro logos with serial numberz!!!11

Can we trade in cutout Bro fist for 1 Tru Bro points? :) :) :)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: calvinhousecat on Wed, 30 September 2015, 18:54:59
Looking forward for a Gold Bro Card like my Gold Starbucks Card :D

Pff. I have one of those. But do you also have a Costco Executive card?
And I'm not talking about a regular Executive card; I'm talking about Executive Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikidou paths ability) equipped with its Gunbai and control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, a complete Susano'o, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in its barcode so it can perform Mokuton kekkei genkai and yin-yang release ninjutsu as well as being extremely skilled in taijutsu and bukijutsu.

Oh yea man? Do you happen to also own a Boating License like me?!

(https://i.warosu.org/data/ic/img/0019/51/1421983104016.jpg)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Wed, 30 September 2015, 19:37:25
My set is available. The person who bought it off of me is trying to start a PayPal claim a few minutes after they paid, and its not worth dealing with it. If you buy it from me, I will cover shipping. 122 for the base set.

It has been fixed, no longer for sale

Looking forward for a Gold Bro Card like my Gold Starbucks Card :D

Pff. I have one of those. But do you also have a Costco Executive card?
And I'm not talking about a regular Executive card; I'm talking about Executive Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikidou paths ability) equipped with its Gunbai and control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, a complete Susano'o, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in its barcode so it can perform Mokuton kekkei genkai and yin-yang release ninjutsu as well as being extremely skilled in taijutsu and bukijutsu.

Oh yea man? Do you happen to also own a Boating License like me?!

Show Image
(https://i.warosu.org/data/ic/img/0019/51/1421983104016.jpg)


Yes

Edit: Photoshopped version of spongebob ID for calvinhousecat was removed due to the lack of acknowledgement. Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: tokidokijake on Wed, 30 September 2015, 19:48:15
this **** is awesome. Straight up taking Bros next level.

(http://www.gifbin.com/bin/102009/1254998888_wii_roxbury_guys.gif)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: strict on Wed, 30 September 2015, 20:50:45
Definitely a very cool and innovative idea. I love the idea of having COA, I'm always paranoid when trading that I might end up getting a forgery so this is a very welcome addition.

I guess my only question is, these are embedded in the plastic of the key? How will this affect translucent and transparent keys? Thinking of something like the clear BBv2 from the liberator set, wouldn't the hologram be pretty noticeable? What about the effect this might have on backlighting shining through the key?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 30 September 2015, 20:54:15
Definitely a very cool and innovative idea. I love the idea of having COA, I'm always paranoid when trading that I might end up getting a forgery so this is a very welcome addition.

I guess my only question is, these are embedded in the plastic of the key? How will this affect translucent and transparent keys? Thinking of something like the clear BBv2 from the liberator set, wouldn't the hologram be pretty noticeable? What about the effect this might have on backlighting shining through the key?
Upthread Bro mentioned that it is embedded into the switch, so even on a transparent key, it is not noticeable.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 20:59:47
Definitely a very cool and innovative idea. I love the idea of having COA, I'm always paranoid when trading that I might end up getting a forgery so this is a very welcome addition.

I guess my only question is, these are embedded in the plastic of the key? How will this affect translucent and transparent keys? Thinking of something like the clear BBv2 from the liberator set, wouldn't the hologram be pretty noticeable? What about the effect this might have on backlighting shining through the key?


It is embedded within the keycap itself.


It wouldn't be noticeable if its mounted on a switch, as it sits right above where the switch housing meets the cap. If you are looking at the key not mounted from the top, it wouldn't be too much of a bother, as there's a lot of plastic in between it and the outside.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Evo_Spec on Wed, 30 September 2015, 21:01:52
It's too bad about the things that led you up to have to do this but i think this is really cool and look forward to getting a cool genuine bro sticker, oh and a cap =P
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 30 September 2015, 21:32:05
Definitely a very cool and innovative idea. I love the idea of having COA, I'm always paranoid when trading that I might end up getting a forgery so this is a very welcome addition.

I guess my only question is, these are embedded in the plastic of the key? How will this affect translucent and transparent keys? Thinking of something like the clear BBv2 from the liberator set, wouldn't the hologram be pretty noticeable? What about the effect this might have on backlighting shining through the key?


It is embedded within the keycap itself.


It wouldn't be noticeable if its mounted on a switch, as it sits right above where the switch housing meets the cap. If you are looking at the key not mounted from the top, it wouldn't be too much of a bother, as there's a lot of plastic in between it and the outside.

How would it affect transparent keycaps?

Especially how would it affect the backlighting, as the LEDs are often towards the top of the switch, where the hologram is.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 30 September 2015, 21:38:29
Definitely a very cool and innovative idea. I love the idea of having COA, I'm always paranoid when trading that I might end up getting a forgery so this is a very welcome addition.

I guess my only question is, these are embedded in the plastic of the key? How will this affect translucent and transparent keys? Thinking of something like the clear BBv2 from the liberator set, wouldn't the hologram be pretty noticeable? What about the effect this might have on backlighting shining through the key?


It is embedded within the keycap itself.


It wouldn't be noticeable if its mounted on a switch, as it sits right above where the switch housing meets the cap. If you are looking at the key not mounted from the top, it wouldn't be too much of a bother, as there's a lot of plastic in between it and the outside.

How would it affect transparent keycaps?

Especially how would it affect the backlighting, as the LEDs are often towards the top of the switch, where the hologram is.


You just quoted the part in which I explained that :)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 30 September 2015, 21:53:29
Definitely a very cool and innovative idea. I love the idea of having COA, I'm always paranoid when trading that I might end up getting a forgery so this is a very welcome addition.

I guess my only question is, these are embedded in the plastic of the key? How will this affect translucent and transparent keys? Thinking of something like the clear BBv2 from the liberator set, wouldn't the hologram be pretty noticeable? What about the effect this might have on backlighting shining through the key?


It is embedded within the keycap itself.


It wouldn't be noticeable if its mounted on a switch, as it sits right above where the switch housing meets the cap. If you are looking at the key not mounted from the top, it wouldn't be too much of a bother, as there's a lot of plastic in between it and the outside.

How would it affect transparent keycaps?

Especially how would it affect the backlighting, as the LEDs are often towards the top of the switch, where the hologram is.


You just quoted the part in which I explained that :)

I should read more :-[

Sorry Bro :D
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 30 September 2015, 21:56:04
Bro, are you starting this with the recent GB of Cherokey? That will be awesome!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Bomble on Wed, 30 September 2015, 22:03:07
Bro, are you starting this with the recent GB of Cherokey? That will be awesome!


Hey guys -

I wanted to get this information out there, since the Cherokeys, and every sculpted key moving forward, will be using this system.


Looks like a yes to me :)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: KnivesM on Wed, 30 September 2015, 22:06:51
Really cool, will make finding trades easier in theory along with making it harder to pass off fakes.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: septamber on Wed, 30 September 2015, 22:16:14
This is really cool. Def a step in the right direction  :thumb:
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: KYLETS8 on Wed, 30 September 2015, 23:28:16
Really cool idea  :D Now I just need to actually get my first bro!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: atlas3686 on Thu, 01 October 2015, 08:14:29
I love this idea. Thanks for all the thought and hard work bro.

Any chance we could apply for certificates for older caps we purchased from you? Even if it's just the certificate of authenticity and colour/name, obviously there wouldn't be anything on the actual cap and no points. I know this would add a bit of work but it would be great for those of us with decent brocap collections already ;)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: absyrd on Thu, 01 October 2015, 08:38:40
Any chance we could apply for certificates for older caps we purchased from you? Even if it's just the certificate of authenticity and colour/name, obviously there wouldn't be anything on the actual cap and no points. I know this would add a bit of work but it would be great for those of us with decent brocap collections already ;)

In the art world, people spend tons of money for authentication service. It is very time-consuming and requires some serious provenance.

Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: atlas3686 on Thu, 01 October 2015, 08:43:43
For sure! That's why I am asking  :p  I'm guessing it would have to be kept to caps bought directly from Bro and more limited caps that he knows well. But I would see this as a strictly on request thing and maybe even for a limited time so as not to overload Bro.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: sth on Thu, 01 October 2015, 08:58:15
what's your IRC nick Bro Caps?!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Remenition on Thu, 01 October 2015, 09:16:20
So this won't apply to any existing bros right?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: sth on Thu, 01 October 2015, 09:20:25
So this won't apply to any existing bros right?

no, bro hired me to come to your house and apply the the new tracking numbers.

everybody pls PM me your location and number of bros so i can start my new job.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Remenition on Thu, 01 October 2015, 09:21:25

So this won't apply to any existing bros right?

no, bro hired me to come to your house and apply the the new tracking numbers.

everybody pls PM me your location and number of bros so i can start my new job.
Long Island NY, look for the white house
Back door should be unlocked, have my bros on my realforce in the basement. GLHF
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: sth on Thu, 01 October 2015, 09:23:52

So this won't apply to any existing bros right?

no, bro hired me to come to your house and apply the the new tracking numbers.

everybody pls PM me your location and number of bros so i can start my new job.
Long Island NY, look for the white house
Back door should be unlocked, have my bros on my realforce in the basement. GLHF

cool i know the place, c u soon
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: trees on Thu, 01 October 2015, 09:25:09

So this won't apply to any existing bros right?

no, bro hired me to come to your house and apply the the new tracking numbers.

everybody pls PM me your location and number of bros so i can start my new job.
Long Island NY, look for the white house
Back door should be unlocked, have my bros on my realforce in the basement. GLHF

I see you forgot to mention your 4 giant bull dogs that also happen to be in your basement.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: sth on Thu, 01 October 2015, 09:27:01

So this won't apply to any existing bros right?

no, bro hired me to come to your house and apply the the new tracking numbers.

everybody pls PM me your location and number of bros so i can start my new job.
Long Island NY, look for the white house
Back door should be unlocked, have my bros on my realforce in the basement. GLHF

I see you forgot to mention your 4 giant bull dogs that also happen to be in your basement.

its k im cesar
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdpdupYPJ81r1x3d2o1_r1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: rainb1ood on Thu, 01 October 2015, 10:08:46
I also would like to know regarding existing Bro Caps
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Thu, 01 October 2015, 12:19:49
I also would like to know regarding existing Bro Caps


Unfortunately, there will be no ID for past products. The trade depot will be for caps with Tru-Bro ID's only, as we just can't dedicate the time or resources to looking into, and verifying, each instance of every trade that doesn't have an ID.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: zlittell on Thu, 01 October 2015, 13:17:44
I would imagine that I could just not register any trades or participate in any of your trading methods and when I send someone a picture of a serial they can type it in and your site spits out that its "X cap in Y color with Z stem from this date of runs and is authentic" or something similar correct?  Why all the conspiracy cries.

Also... this gives me broboners.  :p
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: GenKaan on Thu, 01 October 2015, 13:47:05
Think this is great, both from a trading and collecting perspective. Really clean stamp that gives it a more personal vibe. Noice/10
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: DanielT on Thu, 01 October 2015, 22:52:10
Why all the conspiracy cries.
It's simple, the world is full of hypocrites that would flip one or the other thing for hard cash but at the same time they don't want people to know. It's in the human nature, you can't change it.

For me this is awesome, I think all of this increases the Coolness Factor  :cool: Can't wait to get the first one with this ID (with my luck it will take a while :)) ).
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: VesperSAINT on Fri, 02 October 2015, 00:43:55
We can all be like ~

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/bde07c3ae02d9253f97fdb2b73b823ec/tumblr_mhubl12sGz1qc4noso1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: sth on Fri, 02 October 2015, 01:38:38
what's your IRC nick Bro Caps?!

WHO R USECRET IRC MAN

WHERE IS TRU ID FOR BRO'S IRC ACCT
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 02 October 2015, 01:58:01
We can all be like ~

Show Image
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/bde07c3ae02d9253f97fdb2b73b823ec/tumblr_mhubl12sGz1qc4noso1_500.gif)


Multipass.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: DanielT on Fri, 02 October 2015, 02:39:24
We can all be like ~

Show Image
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/bde07c3ae02d9253f97fdb2b73b823ec/tumblr_mhubl12sGz1qc4noso1_500.gif)


Multipass.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/PqfhuPS7Nex32/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 02 October 2015, 02:41:14
We can all be like ~

Show Image
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/bde07c3ae02d9253f97fdb2b73b823ec/tumblr_mhubl12sGz1qc4noso1_500.gif)


Multipass.

Show Image
(https://media.giphy.com/media/PqfhuPS7Nex32/giphy.gif)


Exactly!

Every time someone says "multi-something" at work there's a round of "multipass" :))
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: DanielT on Fri, 02 October 2015, 02:43:40
Exactly!

Every time someone says "multi-something" at work there's a round of "multipass" :))

Yes :)) Every time I hear Multi-XXXXXXX I think at this :)) Love that movie  :cool:
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: atlas3686 on Fri, 02 October 2015, 02:54:15
Exactly!

Every time someone says "multi-something" at work there's a round of "multipass" :))

Haha me too, great movie, think I might watch that again this weekend.

Yes :)) Every time I hear Multi-XXXXXXX I think at this :)) Love that movie  :cool:

Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: jameslr on Sat, 10 October 2015, 12:20:39
This is awesome - there should be a companion site on ctrlalt.io that tracks your "Brochievements". Something like: "Collect 1 of each new style: Cherokey, Brobot V3, etc..." When you complete a collection or "Brochievement" you get bonus points that you can use toward purchases on ctrlalt.io.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: sth on Sat, 10 October 2015, 13:14:46
This is awesome - there should be a companion site on ctrlalt.io that tracks your "Brochievements". Something like: "Collect 1 of each new style: Cherokey, Brobot V3, etc..." When you complete a collection or "Brochievement" you get bonus points that you can use toward purchases on ctrlalt.io.

achievement i bought the thing
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: ManicMatt1125 on Sun, 11 October 2015, 18:02:17
All these cool caps and Ideas. I need me a bro
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: infiniti on Tue, 13 October 2015, 08:36:51
Yup, I've been under a rock and only read about this now.

Awesome stuff, Bro! :thumb:
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 13 October 2015, 09:14:30
Yup, I've been under a rock and only read about this now.

Awesome stuff, Bro! :thumb:


You'll have to get a bob a tattoo so he doesn't feel left out.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: infiniti on Tue, 13 October 2015, 09:41:48
Yup, I've been under a rock and only read about this now.

Awesome stuff, Bro! :thumb:


You'll have to get a bob a tattoo so he doesn't feel left out.

Shh...not in this thread...we might lose Bro Points.

See you in that old thead (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49309) soontm.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Wed, 21 October 2015, 11:45:49
For those receiving their Rustlers today, you will notice a URL on your product card - we are currently working on an info page (no eta yet), but as mentioned before,
there will be a points redemption as well as the trade depot being released soon. Sit tight for updates...
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Invaderevan on Wed, 21 October 2015, 15:22:40
Just got mine! The banana laffy taffy were a good touch :P
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: iamtootallforthis on Wed, 21 October 2015, 16:31:04
Love this Bro! Got mine today and it is awesome! Extremely Official.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: thefebruaryman on Sat, 24 October 2015, 11:37:07
Just got mine! The banana laffy taffy were a good touch :P

Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: strict on Sat, 24 October 2015, 11:42:04


Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: thefebruaryman on Sat, 24 October 2015, 12:19:32


Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy

I don't even know what taffy is. Is it like toffee?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: romevi on Sat, 24 October 2015, 12:27:07


Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy

I don't even know what taffy is. Is it like toffee?
It's stretchy, chewy candy.
Did you ever watch/read Willy Wonka?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: thefebruaryman on Sat, 24 October 2015, 12:43:10


Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy

I don't even know what taffy is. Is it like toffee?
It's stretchy, chewy candy.
Did you ever watch/read Willy Wonka?

I have seen the film. We just don't get taffy in the UK. Only had peanut butter cups in the last few years. Can't say I am a fan of most American sweet but do miss them selling jolly ranchers here
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: dohbot on Sat, 24 October 2015, 12:44:07


Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy

Banana candy > all other fruit flavored candy
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Sat, 24 October 2015, 14:34:01



Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy

Banana candy > all other fruit flavored candy

Waaah???
Do you even mango candy??
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Remenition on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:07:08



Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy

Banana candy > all other fruit flavored candy

Waaah???
Do you even mango candy??
BRO DO YOU EVEN GUAVA CANDY? if you ever need a care package full of chinese guava-flavored hardcandy, hmu :-*. I'll even throw in some guava handsoap from bath & body works :)). I basically live by it.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Remenition on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:07:37
sorry, double post.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: dohbot on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:09:24




Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy

Banana candy > all other fruit flavored candy

Waaah???
Do you even mango candy??
BRO DO YOU EVEN GUAVA CANDY? if you ever need a care package full of chinese guava-flavored hardcandy, hmu :-*. I'll even throw in some guava handsoap from bath & body works :)). I basically live by it.

I'll buy some guava candy but remain suspicious until I try it. Thanks for the offer!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Remenition on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:10:25
More



Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy

Banana candy > all other fruit flavored candy

Waaah???
Do you even mango candy??
BRO DO YOU EVEN GUAVA CANDY? if you ever need a care package full of chinese guava-flavored hardcandy, hmu :-*. I'll even throw in some guava handsoap from bath & body works :)). I basically live by it.
I'll buy some guava candy but remain suspicious until I try it. Thanks for the offer!
make sure you find the most suspicious-looking, asian-looking hardcandies you could find. that's where it's at.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: dohbot on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:10:56

More



Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy

Banana candy > all other fruit flavored candy

Waaah???
Do you even mango candy??
BRO DO YOU EVEN GUAVA CANDY? if you ever need a care package full of chinese guava-flavored hardcandy, hmu :-*. I'll even throw in some guava handsoap from bath & body works :)). I basically live by it.
I'll buy some guava candy but remain suspicious until I try it. Thanks for the offer!
make sure you find the most suspicious-looking, asian-looking hardcandies you could find. that's where it's at.

You have a link on Amazon?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Remenition on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:14:10

More



Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy

Banana candy > all other fruit flavored candy

Waaah???
Do you even mango candy??
BRO DO YOU EVEN GUAVA CANDY? if you ever need a care package full of chinese guava-flavored hardcandy, hmu :-*. I'll even throw in some guava handsoap from bath & body works :)). I basically live by it.
I'll buy some guava candy but remain suspicious until I try it. Thanks for the offer!
make sure you find the most suspicious-looking, asian-looking hardcandies you could find. that's where it's at.

You have a link on Amazon?

Quote
rich with guava's fragrance (http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Guava-Hard-Candy-12-3/dp/B000J0N1CK)
they even added a t-shirt for scale
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: romevi on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:16:00



Never had banana laffy taffy. Almost as excited by that as I am the rustler!

Banana laffy taffy > all other taffy

Banana candy > all other fruit flavored candy

Waaah???
Do you even mango candy??
BRO DO YOU EVEN GUAVA CANDY? if you ever need a care package full of chinese guava-flavored hardcandy, hmu :-*. I'll even throw in some guava handsoap from bath & body works :)). I basically live by it.
Eh, I've had guava candy. It's okay. It was Mexican, though. Not sure if that's a difference.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: thefebruaryman on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:18:03
If your going Asian hi-chew all the way!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Remenition on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:18:34
If your going Asian teeth glue all the way!
FTFY
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: thefebruaryman on Sat, 24 October 2015, 16:25:41
If your going Asian teeth glue all the way!
FTFY
But there so good. They kick the s**t out of opal fruits
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Kola93 on Sat, 24 October 2015, 21:35:58
My Rustler has the new ID. What is it for?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 24 October 2015, 21:38:32
My Rustler has the new ID. What is it for?

Did you read the first post in this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75685.0)?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Kola93 on Sat, 24 October 2015, 21:40:22
My Rustler has the new ID. What is it for?

Did you read the first post in this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75685.0)?

Yes, still not sure what the ID points are for, but it's exciting!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: suicidal_orange on Sat, 24 October 2015, 21:50:25
My Rustler has the new ID. What is it for?

Did you read the first post in this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75685.0)?

Yes, still not sure what the ID points are for, but it's exciting!

Glad to hear it, was slightly worried for a moment there :))
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: 3Love on Fri, 30 October 2015, 12:16:29
Nice design!
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: ripwallet on Sun, 01 November 2015, 00:23:53
Big fan of this new system, i was skeptical at first but upon receving my rustler i have no doubts. The quality of the ID card that comes with the artisan is superb, i need to add my rustler to the my account and get those pts.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: aznairjordan on Mon, 16 November 2015, 09:14:53
If we trade a cap like the rustler, does the id card then go to the person you trade with?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: SpAmRaY on Mon, 16 November 2015, 09:55:18
If we trade a cap like the rustler, does the id card then go to the person you trade with?


I believe that was the intent as its sort of a certificate of authenticity but ultimately its up to buyers and sellers what they do.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Fire Brand on Mon, 16 November 2015, 09:57:00
If we trade a cap like the rustler, does the id card then go to the person you trade with?


I believe that was the intent as its sort of a certificate of authenticity but ultimately its up to buyers and sellers what they do.
Also just to add my own opinion I would be a bit wary of people not willing to send the card along with the key, unless they have a very very good reason
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 09:58:54
If we trade a cap like the rustler, does the id card then go to the person you trade with?


I think it would be best to trade it with it.

Seeing how if you have both the card and the cap with matching IDs, then it's a sure way of telling if you are the original owner or have acquired it somehow through a legitimate way.


Although, you can argue about the wear of the cards, or people wanting to keep theirs. So like Spam said, that's what it was intended for but some may choose not to follow through with that.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: romevi on Mon, 16 November 2015, 10:06:05
If we trade a cap like the rustler, does the id card then go to the person you trade with?


I think it would be best to trade it with it.

Seeing how if you have both the card and the cap with matching IDs, then it's a sure way of telling if you are the original owner or have acquired it somehow through a legitimate way.


Although, you can argue about the wear of the cards, or people wanting to keep theirs. So like Spam said, that's what it was intended for but some may choose not to follow through with that.

I'd assume the card goes with it. It's part of the cap, and furthers proof of authenticity. If, for some odd reason, you wish to keep the card, it's up the buyer to agree.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 10:09:12
If we trade a cap like the rustler, does the id card then go to the person you trade with?


I think it would be best to trade it with it.

Seeing how if you have both the card and the cap with matching IDs, then it's a sure way of telling if you are the original owner or have acquired it somehow through a legitimate way.


Although, you can argue about the wear of the cards, or people wanting to keep theirs. So like Spam said, that's what it was intended for but some may choose not to follow through with that.

I'd assume the card goes with it. It's part of the cap, and furthers proof of authenticity. If, for some odd reason, you wish to keep the card, it's up the buyer to agree.

Of course the buyer would have to agree.

I think most of us would want the card as well though.


If i were to trade something and want to keep the card as a memory, cool, but then it makes you think what would you even do with the card anyway? Collect them? There's no real reason to keep the card instead of trading it with the cap.



So be careful of those who trade without the card.


Should we get these things laminated?   :))
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Mon, 16 November 2015, 13:07:39
You should never trade without the card. It's the integral part of authenticity. Insist it be included in any trade.


When the Bro Trade Depot goes live, it will be a requirement for trading.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 16 November 2015, 13:17:02
You should never trade without the card. It's the integral part of authenticity. Insist it be included in any trade.


When the Bro Trade Depot goes live, it will be a requirement for trading.

Perhaps a small card inserted into the box with every order to remind people about this, especially those who are not following this thread, could avoid confusion and distress later on.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: jerue on Mon, 16 November 2015, 14:14:26
While we're talking...what about users who do giveaways? I guess just include the card and keep the points, if I am understanding correctly since points are tied to the original account anyways. Or just be super generous and give the points away too :>
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: asdfjkl36 on Mon, 16 November 2015, 14:52:31
The card is just the certificate of authenticity, so it will be traded, with or without points.

But you're right, the points are tied to the original account, so i'm unsure if there's a "point transfer" system that would be needed. People who will want to trade bros might want to stick with those with Tru-Bro IDs, and at that point both parties already have their points.

But if there's a giveaway, then i think people would be happy to get a cap and shouldn't complain about some points.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Mon, 16 November 2015, 14:56:21
The card is just the certificate of authenticity, so it will be traded, with or without points.

But you're right, the points are tied to the original account, so i'm unsure if there's a "point transfer" system that would be needed. People who will want to trade bros might want to stick with those with Tru-Bro IDs, and at that point both parties already have their points.

But if there's a giveaway, then i think people would be happy to get a cap and shouldn't complain about some points.


Giveaway caps offer the same bonus points as any sale cap. So when you get a giveaway cap, if you don't already have a CTRLALT account, one will be created and points attached.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Mon, 16 November 2015, 15:02:47
The card is just the certificate of authenticity, so it will be traded, with or without points.

But you're right, the points are tied to the original account, so i'm unsure if there's a "point transfer" system that would be needed. People who will want to trade bros might want to stick with those with Tru-Bro IDs, and at that point both parties already have their points.

But if there's a giveaway, then i think people would be happy to get a cap and shouldn't complain about some points.


Giveaway caps offer the same bonus points as any sale cap. So when you get a giveaway cap, if you don't already have a CTRLALT account, one will be created and points attached.

I think the scenario in question is a user-hosted giveaway. If I give a cap away, does that still apply?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Mon, 16 November 2015, 15:31:00
The card is just the certificate of authenticity, so it will be traded, with or without points.

But you're right, the points are tied to the original account, so i'm unsure if there's a "point transfer" system that would be needed. People who will want to trade bros might want to stick with those with Tru-Bro IDs, and at that point both parties already have their points.

But if there's a giveaway, then i think people would be happy to get a cap and shouldn't complain about some points.


Giveaway caps offer the same bonus points as any sale cap. So when you get a giveaway cap, if you don't already have a CTRLALT account, one will be created and points attached.

I think the scenario in question is a user-hosted giveaway. If I give a cap away, does that still apply?


If it's a cap they purchased, and didn't use the points, then they can be transferred to the giveaway winner via their ctrl alt account.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Zorberema on Tue, 17 November 2015, 03:07:08
Hey!

According to the recent updates into the sale thread done by Bunny, it seems like the rustler ID's will be automatically added to the profiles of the buyers. I recently got a rustler from a trade with the card and everything; can I add the rustler to my account or will it go to his? If so, how should I go about getting the rustler to my account?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: whmeltonjr on Mon, 23 November 2015, 22:53:03
So when will the trading site be live? I need some Topre in my life.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Glenmael on Sun, 20 December 2015, 05:13:58
So when will the trading site be live? I need some Topre in my life.

Patiently waiting :) I'm sure there will be news after the holiday season.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Sun, 20 December 2015, 10:42:09
So when will the trading site be live? I need some Topre in my life.

Patiently waiting :) I'm sure there will be news after the holiday season.


It's in the line-up for things we need to get done. We are first working to get the data transferred to the new site and organized so we can get the cherokeys shipped. Once
that is done, we will get crackin' on the trade depot :)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Glenmael on Sun, 20 December 2015, 17:43:50
So when will the trading site be live? I need some Topre in my life.

Patiently waiting :) I'm sure there will be news after the holiday season.


It's in the line-up for things we need to get done. We are first working to get the data transferred to the new site and organized so we can get the cherokeys shipped. Once
that is done, we will get crackin' on the trade depot :)

Sweet :) thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: Michael on Tue, 12 January 2016, 18:19:45
Just a quick update on where this is at:


We are currently thinking of the best way to implement this system right now. So far, any keycaps you have purchased that have a tru-bro ID on it, will automatically assign the points to your account.
We decided that trading the points is going to be a massive headache for everyone, so when you purchase a keycap, you get points, and they do not transfer. Still figuring out a point value system, as
well. You will be able to apply it towards things like; t-shirts, stickers, keycaps, etc. I promise we have not forgotten about this, so thank you for your patience thus far.


There will be some really big things happening in the next month, and I will definitely update you here when that goes down ;)
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: LXXXIX on Thu, 14 January 2016, 22:12:47
Just a quick update on where this is at:


We are currently thinking of the best way to implement this system right now. So far, any keycaps you have purchased that have a tru-bro ID on it, will automatically assign the points to your account.
We decided that trading the points is going to be a massive headache for everyone, so when you purchase a keycap, you get points, and they do not transfer. Still figuring out a point value system, as
well. You will be able to apply it towards things like; t-shirts, stickers, keycaps, etc. I promise we have not forgotten about this, so thank you for your patience thus far.


There will be some really big things happening in the next month, and I will definitely update you here when that goes down ;)

Nice to hear! :thumb:
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: mrlooolz on Sun, 17 January 2016, 13:53:17
When would this point system be up :)?
Title: Re: Tru-Bro ID
Post by: crbr on Sun, 17 January 2016, 22:09:23
Just a quick update on where this is at:


We are currently thinking of the best way to implement this system right now. So far, any keycaps you have purchased that have a tru-bro ID on it, will automatically assign the points to your account.
We decided that trading the points is going to be a massive headache for everyone, so when you purchase a keycap, you get points, and they do not transfer. Still figuring out a point value system, as
well. You will be able to apply it towards things like; t-shirts, stickers, keycaps, etc. I promise we have not forgotten about this, so thank you for your patience thus far.


There will be some really big things happening in the next month, and I will definitely update you here when that goes down ;)

Oooooh nice my first Bro will be my first Bro points!