[IC] Stemshaver - a tool to fix BOX switches

[82d28a]

Any updates? Thanks

[apossardt]

+1 for getting one even considering any minor issues. Really itching to fix some of my switches

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[82d28a]

Any updates?

[gutsack]

Registering very late interest.

[thearctican]

Has this died?

[Techno Trousers]

Has this died?

Death by a thousand stem shavings.

I hope it's just bring perfected and still going forward.

[lutchbu]

Has this died?

Not dead yet, just put a bit on the backburner over the holidays.
There will be an update soonish.

[GigaFlop]

Has this died?

Not dead yet, just put a bit on the backburner over the holidays.
There will be an update soonish.

Looking forward to the update. My Mitolet set has been waiting to be used safely <3

[roostrc0gburn]

Has this died?

Not dead yet, just put a bit on the backburner over the holidays.
There will be an update soonish.

Looking forward to the update. My Mitolet set has been waiting to be used safely <3

same. been waiting for this to put box royals in my purple ares... if anyone has one of the prototype shavers pls contact me!

[Kavik]

Has this died?

Not dead yet, just put a bit on the backburner over the holidays.
There will be an update soonish.

Looking forward to the update. My Mitolet set has been waiting to be used safely <3

same. been waiting for this to put box royals in my purple ares... if anyone has one of the prototype shavers pls contact me!

An IC for a competing product is now on Reddit and Keebtalk. Looks like a race to GB now.

[Geroximo]

An IC for a competing product is now on Reddit and Keebtalk. Looks like a race to GB now.

The demand is high. I can't wait to actually put keycaps on my BOX blacks again.

[GigaFlop]

Has this died?

Not dead yet, just put a bit on the backburner over the holidays.
There will be an update soonish.

Looking forward to the update. My Mitolet set has been waiting to be used safely <3

same. been waiting for this to put box royals in my purple ares... if anyone has one of the prototype shavers pls contact me!

An IC for a competing product is now on Reddit and Keebtalk. Looks like a race to GB now.

Can you link or PM me the reddit post?

[ideus]

Has this died?

Not dead yet, just put a bit on the backburner over the holidays.
There will be an update soonish.

Looking forward to the update. My Mitolet set has been waiting to be used safely <3

same. been waiting for this to put box royals in my purple ares... if anyone has one of the prototype shavers pls contact me!

An IC for a competing product is now on Reddit and Keebtalk. Looks like a race to GB now.

Can you link or PM me the reddit post?

Would like to get the link as well.

[euphxenos]

The designer calls it the "Cruciformer".  I've seen two posts on it, one on reddit, the other on keebtalk:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/ag0ln0/interest_check_the_cruciformer_the_tool_for/

https://www.keebtalk.com/t/ic-the-cruciformer-a-tool-for-fixing-mx-stems/4653

[ChitownM2]

Definitely interested in this

[ideus]

Definitely interested in a tool like this or the other fellow's. Some healthy competition does not hurt for a solution that allows the use of the nice box switches. Thank you.

[Starius]

Any news on this project?

[Bleddyn]

would be in for one, i have one board with box royals and another with box yellows.

[lutchbu]

UPDATE 3 (finally)

OVERVIEW
testresults, i've been takling to a cnc shop and decided to drop the artisan idea

TESTRESULTS

• design: Material will be steel and the stemshaver does not need a bevel. No bevel would cut costs by ~25% but means that there might be a slightly higher force required to operate
• function: Prototypes produced the desired results but had to be applied a second time rotated 180°. This is due to my milling setup and should not be an issue with the ones produced by the cnc shop.
• durability: Prototypes were tested on up to 200 switches with minimal to no wear observed

PRICE
Current estimate is 10-18 USD for the regular version, depending on quantity.

and now?
I'm not quite sure how to proceed from here to be honest. Ideally, I would want to send out a batch of prototypes made by the cnc shop to test them out. However I do not have the means to finance a small prototype run.
So... any advice?

[dyrdevil]

set up a GB? then you don't have to finance it yourself.

[BlindAssassin111]

Honestly you are at the point of either running the GB right away or just stopping the project if you feel you aren't ready(there are 2 others trying to do the same thing). I don't mean you have to rush, just need to figure out what you want to do sooner rather than later.

If the CNC shop can make the shavers better than the original prototypes were done, you will have a great product on hand. Also do not remove the bevel/chamfer as that actually helps as it makes it a blade rather than a cold extrusion(pushing a material through a form to reshape whilst at room temp). Blades are way more effective at shaving given the fact the form would more than likely deform if there was no bevel/chamfer and cut much wider than desired, while blades won't.

[roostrc0gburn]

send me one of the prototypes for testing

[ChitownM2]

I'm still interested in getting one of these.

At $10-15 I'm definitely in for being a part of a small group of guinea pigs to try it out and see if there are any issues if you want to go that route before launching a large GB order.

[bunanapeel]

Well I'm ready to buy it, sounds like having a bevel is a better bet than without.

[ideus]

Can use 100 light blues box SW for testing your device. Offer a well documented report.

[roostrc0gburn]

Can use 100 light blues box SW for testing your device. Offer a well documented report.

same. i have 100 box royals (old stem design). i would assume if there are multiple testers, a general form is better for everyone to share results. we could collaborate through a google doc or something similar

[gutsack]

Also up for spending some money to help test. I have about 200 box whites here and plenty of box royals and jades as well.

[Starius]

I have all these, and then some! 
Get me a Stemshaver, STAT!
 

[voight-kampff]

Yeah, I want one too

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[ideus]

Can use 100 light blues box SW for testing your device. Offer a well documented report.

same. i have 100 box royals (old stem design). i would assume if there are multiple testers, a general form is better for everyone to share results. we could collaborate through a google doc or something similar

Excellent idea. Having the same report makes results comparable.

[roostrc0gburn]

Can use 100 light blues box SW for testing your device. Offer a well documented report.

same. i have 100 box royals (old stem design). i would assume if there are multiple testers, a general form is better for everyone to share results. we could collaborate through a google doc or something similar

Excellent idea. Having the same report makes results comparable.

[LightningXI]

I have hundreds of box switches just sitting in a corner. Hopefully this will make me love them again!

[jobicoppola]

also have bunch of box switches just sitting around waiting to be shaved, would def be in for this

[lutchbu]

...Also do not remove the bevel/chamfer as that actually helps as it makes it a blade rather than a cold extrusion(pushing a material through a form to reshape whilst at room temp). Blades are way more effective at shaving given the fact the form would more than likely deform if there was no bevel/chamfer and cut much wider than desired, while blades won't.

You are right, a bevel would be more efficient. Hence why the flat version requires a bit more force to operate. But the test results indicate that both versions are equally effective and produce the desired results.
There are several reasons why I think the flat version would be good enough or maybe even better:

• With a flat top it is less likely to shave off too much if the stemshaver is not used perfectly straight as the edges can't dig in as easily
• The flat version should be more durable than the beveled version since there is more material to support the cutting edge
• A flat top is easier to manufacture and therefore less expensive

[ideus]

...Also do not remove the bevel/chamfer as that actually helps as it makes it a blade rather than a cold extrusion(pushing a material through a form to reshape whilst at room temp). Blades are way more effective at shaving given the fact the form would more than likely deform if there was no bevel/chamfer and cut much wider than desired, while blades won't.

You are right, a bevel would be more efficient. Hence why the flat version requires a bit more force to operate. But the test results indicate that both versions are equally effective and produce the desired results.
There are several reasons why I think the flat version would be good enough or maybe even better:

• With a flat top it is less likely to shave off too much if the stemshaver is not used perfectly straight as the edges can't dig in as easily
• The flat version should be more durable than the beveled version since there is more material to support the cutting edge
• A flat top is easier to manufacture and therefore less expensive

The reasoning given is sound. Being a manufacturing engineer I can confirm the logic.

[fireworm]

Anyone with a prototype that wants make $10 doing some shaving, pm me.

[Techno Trousers]

I say go ahead with the full GB. If it's like $20-25 shipped in the U.S., that's not going to bankrupt anyone. And if it turns out there are any unforeseen issues, I'll bet enough people would be in to buy a corrected CNC version in a second round.

[mmd1990]

I could also use one (EU)

Got 200 switches

[binxberry]

I’ve got a bunch of jades I need to shave down so I’d be in for one!


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[Allo]

Any update on this?

[crzone]

Sorry, I have been watching this for a while but I decided to go with the Cruciformer project.

[sevenseacat]

I've bought a Cruciformer as well. Been waiting for this for way too long.

[Starius]

I've bought a Cruciformer as well. Been waiting for this for way too long.

Have you gotten yours yet? I don't know if I ever saw when they were expected to be due. 

[crzone]

They haven't shipped yet.

According to a post by rudbear dated May 4th, if all goes well it should ship next week. I assume that proxies will need additional time, so one extra week on top of the initial ship date maybe.

A quote from a post made yesterday on reddit:
"I'm working with a tentative shipping date of May 18th as we've got bubble mailers, labels, materials, and all that sorted out, I think."

[Starius]

They haven't shipped yet.

According to a post by rudbear dated May 4th, if all goes well it should ship next week. I assume that proxies will need additional time, so one extra week on top of the initial ship date maybe.

A quote from a post made yesterday on reddit:
"I'm working with a tentative shipping date of May 18th as we've got bubble mailers, labels, materials, and all that sorted out, I think."

Ah cool, thanks for sharing the update! 👍

[victorpre]

Run a group by, I'm definitely interested

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[roostrc0gburn]

this dead?

[heavyheaded]

this dead?

Seems to be. The cruciformer did get produced and I have some, but I'm not sure what the status of this pre-order is on their page. https://rudbeardesign.myshopify.com/

[mmd1990]

I am interested and also in EU.

If anyone has a prototype they no longer use and want to sell it?

[d.caminero]

mechboards UK recently received their order. ask mike for extras, I think he should have plenty