geekhack

geekhack Marketplace => Interest Checks => Topic started by: JSaintS on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:04:40

Title: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:04:40
(https://i.imgur.com/nORCM2E.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/g7IHiiT.jpg)
J-02- Kits: Latin Alpha | Liha Modifiers | Liha Novelties


Basic Idea
Cradle of life lost in a see of sand, Oasis are key to surviving in the desert and are at the source of Myth and legends. Whether you're hunting for Zerzura or just willing to make a stop in your quest for the endgame board, this keyset is for you!


KAT

A word on the profile

All of you should be more or less familiar now with this profile, but for those that are not, here are a couple of things you can check/read:
Chinese link with some images (https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/7624)
English link with some more images (https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/7625)

If you don't want to go and read, know this: it's higher than GMK, looks like SA whilst being shorter than SA (so, all the pros without the cons) :D
Schematics comparing it to SA and GMK:

Schematics comparing it to SA and GMK:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/hvG3wPg.jpg)

Picture comparing it to SA:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/Nxcjg9L.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/NAhjSVU.jpg)
Cypher - Kits: Latin Alpha | Modifiers | Calculus | Novelties

Colors

Here are the colors that we will use:

\ Base Legend
Alpha Pantone 155C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxar8ZMUcAAXvLX.jpg) Pantone 7617 C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcZb7mkUQAAYlBA.jpg)
Modifiers Pantone 317C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU55v17VwAAB-J6.jpg) Pantone 7617 C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcZb7mkUQAAYlBA.jpg)
Liha* Pantone 7617 C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcZb7mkUQAAYlBA.jpg)  Pantone 155C (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxar8ZMUcAAXvLX.jpg)

*Liha means bark in arabic. I saw this more fitted than the "coffee" name I had for the brown kit in the past.



(https://i.imgur.com/tqmzEeX.jpg)
Kyuu and Rama M6 macropad - Kits: Arabic Alpha | Liha Modifiers | Liha Novelties

Samples

Round 1:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/ygfQjYw.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/PVAgahB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1MukVw9.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/ayHXi3A.jpg)

Round 2:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/85wpeh6.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/UBy95XO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HD9oZKH.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/7MNvgBO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bHeZ0ck.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/UPxHaMv.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/5fRvZfr.jpg)
Austin - Kits: Latin Alpha | Liha Modifiers | Liha Calculus | Liha Novelties

Kits

Alphas
(https://i.imgur.com/G0DlB8Z.png)(https://i.imgur.com/7BbIKt9.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Qww1jWC.png)

Modifiers
(https://i.imgur.com/bE61sRs.png)(https://i.imgur.com/jnlUJL2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/fmzJmpM.png)(https://i.imgur.com/p1pUGYv.png)

Novelties
(https://i.imgur.com/aS4YsUA.png)(https://i.imgur.com/OhTuEpL.png)

Calculus
(https://i.imgur.com/zfhwdcE.png)(https://i.imgur.com/2zOa69a.png)

Spacebars
(https://i.imgur.com/I1ZkAoT.png)(https://i.imgur.com/NGo9KZu.png)

Accent
(https://i.imgur.com/1BIv6k7.png)

UK
(https://i.imgur.com/wWII2xt.png)

International
(https://i.imgur.com/clmOhg3.png)

French kit
(https://i.imgur.com/oj6aqvR.png)

Colevrak
(https://i.imgur.com/MCUwMox.png)

CMD
(https://i.imgur.com/25gXStd.png)

40s
(https://i.imgur.com/8z8WnQd.png)(https://i.imgur.com/nWuS8eF.png)

Ortho
(https://i.imgur.com/gVa4PuC.png)(https://i.imgur.com/6tpsvbx.pngg)

Ergo
(https://i.imgur.com/EkGmEdO.png)(https://i.imgur.com/cD9VAaN.png)

One last word on the kits: I know I have A LOT of kits but hear me out: there is no MOQ per kit. The only MOQ is 24000 U (each kit being worth a different number of "U").
As long as this MOQ is met, all kits WILL be produced. Biip had MOQs on certains Milkshake kits because molds had to be created, but again, this is not the case here :)


(https://i.imgur.com/4CrrHPG.png)
Blue Virgo - Kits: Blank Alpha | Blank Modifiers


Artisans

Artisans always were important to me and that will be reflected in this keyset's collaboration as well:


Artkey (https://www.instagram.com/artkey.universe/?hl=en) - The royal delegation will leave Eruvell to venture into the desert, searching for the wealth hidden near the Oasis. Artkey will be producing 5 complete medieval sets!
Alpha Keycaps (https://www.instagram.com/alphakeycaps/?hl=en) - An oasis attracts many wild animals, amongst which is the Keypora , come and get yours!
SUK (https://www.instagram.com/suitedupsuitedup/?hl=en) - Keyporas are not the only animals attracted by the fresh water: Snapjaws have also been seen wandering nearby! Pay close attention, Keybutos are hunting them, you don't want them to see you
Keyforge (https://www.instagram.com/keyforge/?hl=en) - remains of an old civilization long gone, statues in the form of dragons and lions can still be found laying around. Some say you can still find some skulls too.
Bad  (https://www.instagram.com/badch4d/?hl=en)- Ducks and other strange creatures can be seen lurking around when it's too cold in their regions. Badchad will introduce them to you and who knows? You might even adopt one to take home (be warned, don't feed them after midnight)
Coz (https://www.instagram.com/cozkeycaps/?hl=en) - Cos will be producing a couple of keys (amongst which some of his latest NoEsc4pe) and they will be given away during the first week to thank early backers! Prisons over here are top notch, once you're in, you don't come out!
RAMA (https://www.instagram.com/ramaworks/?hl=en) - RAMA had to be part of this project! They are producing a gold key with the arabian palace novelty infilled with brown enamel.
 Lividity Caps  (https://www.instagram.com/lividitycaps/?hl=en) – Some curse creatures roam the lands surrounding the Oasis, looking for their next victims… will that be you? Excited to add some Puppeteers to the artisans you’ll be able to get along the keyset!
 GSK  (https://www.instagram.com/goldenstar_keycap/?hl=en) – Some fierce hunters have been seen tracking the mysterious creatures lurking in the Oasis, if you travel there, you might encounter them, but be careful! – I’m glad to announce that GSK will be producing some of their finest keys: Velites, Hogzilla, Froggo and… a brand new key (not announced yet!)
 Meika  (https://www.instagram.com/latrialum/?hl=en) – Creatures are not the only magical things you’ll find here, there are also some gorgeous landscapes – You’ll be able to get some gorgeous blanks made by the talented Meika
 Gothcaps  (https://www.instagram.com/gothcaps/?hl=en) – Some symbols have started to appear here and there, on rocks and trees… what do those mean? Why are they appearing? – Join the raffle for the new blanks by Gothcaps to find out 😊 (new design on its way!!)
 HWS  (https://www.instagram.com/hungerworkstudio/?hl=en) – Who knows what more mysteries you’ll encounter on your trip… HWS will help you discover them all! – I’m excited to say Binge accepted to produce some keys for this GB! These will probably come a little after the Oasis GB but will be reserved to GB participants 😊
 GirlyCaps Studios (https://www.instagram.com/girlystudios_caps/) – Elves have been dispatched in the surroundings to protect travelers from the dangers that lurks in the shadow!
 RitualMaster (https://www.instagram.com/ritualmaster/) – Watchers, locals call them. That's all those weird little creatures do - they observe the fauna, the travelers... what their goal is remains a mistery
Fraktal Kaps (https://www.instagram.com/fraktal.kaps/) – Oasis are source of life, enigmas and wonders - join the sale to uncover the mysteries this Oasis has to offer!
 Lo-Ki (https://www.instagram.com/loki_studios/) – Last but not least, Lo-Ki will also be producing some keys for Oasis. Join the GB to see what he will be producing :D

(https://i.imgur.com/Q3UitM9.jpg)

These artisans will be raffled between GB participants


(https://i.imgur.com/xb0kM3Z.jpg)
White Conone - Kits: Arabic Alpha | Oasis Modifiers | Oasis Novelties | Liha Spacebar


Deskmat

(https://i.imgur.com/YdOXSSHh.png)

Deskmat sample by Kono:
(https://i.imgur.com/uugYsFT.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/h6Bp9sN.jpg)
Austin - Kits: Latin Alpha | Liha Modifiers | Liha Calculus | Liha Novelties

Nano. slider

This is the last little bit I have to announce :) I've wanted one ever since I first saw them announced and I'm excited to work with the Keebwerk. team for this one :)

(https://i.imgur.com/BfgCT6z.png)(https://i.imgur.com/6lc9C7t.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/u2PFFwm.png)(https://i.imgur.com/CEoIAel.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/BPecgmF.png)

More detail coming soon :D


Vendors
Vendors will be:
for Europe, MyKeyboard.eu (https://mykeyboard.eu/);
for the States Kono (https://kono.store/);
for the Canada Deskhero.ca (https://Deskhero.ca);
for Asia, zFrontier (https://en.zfrontier.com/); and
for Oceania, DailyClack (https://dailyclack.com/).

GB will take place in February 2020 for a total of 5 weeks - don't be afraid to join because you fear this or that kit won't make MOQ, as explained earlier, as long as we hit the 24,000 unit mark, everything will be produced :)

(https://i.imgur.com/Q7QnECb.jpg)
Polaris keyboard and Rama M10 macropad - kits: Alphas | Modifiers | French Kit | Novelties

Pricing

TBD - All kits are final and have been sent to zFrontier for quoting - prices will be updated here soon :)

↡ Kits\Vendors MyKeyboard (EU) Kono (NA)Deskhero.ca (Canada)zFrontier (Asian)zFrontier (China)DailyClack (Oceania)
Unit Count
Latin Alpha
€31
$29.99
CAD42
$28
¥166
$43.19
49.5u
Arabian Alpha
€31
$29.99
CAD42
$28
¥166
$43.19
49.5u
Blank Alpha
€23
$19.99
CAD28
$21
¥124
$28.79
49.5u
Oasis Modifiers
€64
$54.99
CAD76
$62
¥368
$79.19
98.25u
Oasis Blank Modifiers
€41
$44.99
CAD62
$37
¥220
$64.79
87.25u
Liha Modifiers
€64
$54.99
CAD76
$58
¥345
$79.19
98.25u
Liha Blank Modifiers
€57
$54.99
CAD76
$52
¥309
$79.19
87.25u
Oasis Calculus
€20
$21.99
CAD28
$18
¥107
$28.79
28u
Liha Calculus
€20
$21.99
CAD28
$18
¥107
$28.79
28u
Oasis Spacebar
€13
$17.99
CAD25
$12
¥71
$25.91
28.25u
Liha Spacebar
€19
$19.99
CAD28
$17
¥101
$28.79
28.25u
Accent
€5.50
$9.99
CAD14
$5
¥29
$14.39
8.25u
UK
€10
$12.99
CAD18
$9
¥53
$18.71
14u
International
€36
$34.99
CAD48
$33
¥196
$50.39
55u
Baguette
€22
$22.99
CAD31
$20
¥119
$33.11
34u
Colevrak
€30
$29.99
CAD42
$28
¥166
$43.19
43.5u
CMD
€10
$14.99
CAD21
$9
¥53
$21.59
15u
Oasis 40s
€43
$39.99
CAD55
$40
¥238
$57.59
65.25u
Liha 40s
€43
$39.99
CAD55
$40
¥238
$57.59
65.25u
Oasis Ortho
€26
$24.99
CAD34
$24
¥142
$35.99
39u
Liha Ortho
€26
$24.99
CAD34
$24
¥142
$35.99
39u
Oasis Ergo
€41
$39.99
CAD55
$39
¥232
$57.59
62u
Liha Ergo
€41
$39.99
CAD55
$39
¥232
$57.59
62u
Oasis Novelties
€18
$19.99
CAD28
$17
¥101
$28.79
28.5u
Liha Novelties
€18
$19.99
CAD28
$17
¥101
$28.79
28.5u




Artisan Gallery

Artkey

Oasis Medieval Set

(https://i.imgur.com/loazDBM.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/IkzOifIh.jpg)

Alpha

Oasis Keypora

(https://i.imgur.com/m3ZXDj4.png)

Lividity

Oasis and Splatasis Gramps, Puppeteer and Parasyte

(https://i.imgur.com/owDLA4i.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/QqPj5nY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bFe9ShN.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/VYzWAJF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QDSbsvq.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/z6nswxQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZQsm3BW.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/4bfztVO.jpg)

Gothcaps

Oasis Grave Robbers
(https://i.imgur.com/uUI5dL9.jpg)

Ritual Master

Speckled Desert Warbler

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670253642816815104/670291829664645130/20200124103602_IMG_7882.JPG)(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670253642816815104/670291830012641298/20200124103740_IMG_7887.JPG)

Render Gallery

More
(https://i.imgur.com/GUsRiYk.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/gYZHfxT.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/xb0kM3Z.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/t5lNYgO.png)(https://i.imgur.com/z25uxBZ.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/JfhF5Fk.png)(https://i.imgur.com/4CrrHPG.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/2oFpJ0E.png)(https://i.imgur.com/ekVf3Gt.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/5fRvZfr.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/NAhjSVU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eYE3mxc.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Q7QnECb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/h9RrWFc.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Ub06Sdy.jpg)


Boards: Flex - Virgo (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102711.0) by Flexerman | Austin (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100883.0) by driftingbunnies | Cypher (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100943.0) by westfoxtrot


Special Thanks


I wanted to thank you guys for sticking with me whilst this project was on standy, all the newcomers (I hope you'll enjoy the keyset), all the vendors for accepting to run this. Special thanks to Quaddepo for helping and answering my dumb questions and special thanks to NightyOwl on Discord for helping me with the colors. Last but not least, thanks to all the artisans for accepting to collaborate with me on this set.


Want to support the set?
Code: [Select]
[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=95419.0][img width=479 height=120]https://i.imgur.com/nORCM2E.png[/img][/url]
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: quaddepos on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:05:51
Awesome keyset!


Verzonden vanaf mijn iPhone met Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:11:45
Put the Japanese kit in the base.

Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: Sshimosawa on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:11:55
I am in.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: romevi on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:27:48
This looks great. The Shoretrooper Captain is my favorite 'trooper.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/4/41/Shoretrooper_Hot_Toys.png/revision/latest?cb=20160930125429)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: M on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:35:18
I'd prefer to have the Kobe kit as an extra if that's the only way to get caps with only Hiragana legends. Also I love how many extras you're offering to go with the theme
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: janglad on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:39:11
Verry pretty set, extremely detailed and solid post! Good luck!!  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: RSC on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:40:13
I'm in if the base kit has double legends: latin + hiragana. Really cool colour combo, well done!

PS: Please add a R1 1u Backspace key.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: xondat on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:41:14
Put the Japanese kit in the base.

Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk

Shut your god damn mouth boy

:))

pls no
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:44:12
So long as you leave the Hiragana mono as a separate kit I'm good to go.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: RSC on Tue, 01 May 2018, 16:48:30
BTW, have you considered going hangul legends instead of hiragana? Given how clean the set is, I think it would work even better.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: megaforce on Tue, 01 May 2018, 17:39:18
Put the Japanese kit in the base.

Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk

Shut your god damn mouth boy

:))

pls no

best watch yourself lad, i have the power of god and anime on my side.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: Itzbryan55 on Tue, 01 May 2018, 18:29:50
Awesome looking set, I love it  :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: aspenc4 on Tue, 01 May 2018, 18:56:56
Yep, I’m definitely in man. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: Hokabuki on Tue, 01 May 2018, 20:46:47
I'm in if the base kit has double legends: latin + hiragana. Really cool colour combo, well done!

PS: Please add a R1 1u Backspace key.
I’m all for the R2 1u Backspace!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: yap68 on Tue, 01 May 2018, 21:54:54
Nice set. I prefer a cleaner English alphas base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 01 May 2018, 21:59:35
mild intrigue

do you have a render with white alphas instead of cream?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: wanewang on Tue, 01 May 2018, 23:00:58
looks nice! will join!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 02 May 2018, 02:07:56
mild intrigue

do you have a render with white alphas instead of cream?

Unfortunately not, I thought of white as it wasn't it the theme I was going for :)

BTW, have you considered going hangul legends instead of hiragana? Given how clean the set is, I think it would work even better.
Not yet hehe, I will have a look tho I love how clean the set looks with only Latin legends

I’m all for the R2 1u Backspace!
I will have a look at that ;)

So long as you leave the Hiragana mono as a separate kit I'm good to go.
Yeah I kinda like how clean the Latin alphas look. That was not my first idea as I personally wanted to swap those for the Japanese kit, but I like them more and more


Thank you all for your feedback, I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 02 May 2018, 02:20:52
Anyone else think the colors should be the reversed? Seawater blue for alphas and sand yellow for mods. Currently, it reminds me more of a desert than a beach 🙂
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: DMacKB on Wed, 02 May 2018, 02:40:30
That palette is fantastic! Also that r4 support for 65s and arrow clustered 60s is most appreciated. Will the spacebars kit include a 2.25 and 2.75 for double spacebar builds like dz60?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 02 May 2018, 02:50:56
That palette is fantastic! Also that r4 support for 65s and arrow clustered 60s is most appreciated. Will the spacebars kit include a 2.25 and 2.75 for double spacebar builds like dz60?

It already does :D Unless you mean 2x 2.25u and 2x 2.75u ^^
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: DMacKB on Wed, 02 May 2018, 02:59:09
Ok busted, that's my first time seeing the MORE button and everyone knows it now. This is such a nice set man nice job.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 02 May 2018, 03:02:39
This is probably my bad, there are a lot of pictures and I didn't want to make the post a pain to read :-/

Thanks a lot for your kind words :-)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: peggisan on Wed, 02 May 2018, 03:04:36
Looks really nice! Would personally like a 1.5u r2 backspace instead of delete.

also thanks for keeping latin alphas. Had to drop out of Serika because they dropped them for the hiragana subs
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: shower_king on Wed, 02 May 2018, 03:41:53
hi, guy, I am really fond of this colorway. It is rather difficult to choose yellow or yellow-like colors as alpha base color because  it is not to easy to find a compatible colorway in a balanced way. GMK plum and GMK penumbra are examples. Although I really like the real keycaps of plum and penumbra, they turn out not as I expect attractively.
This is a must-buy set.
Hope you get the perfect color combo .good luck.
 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 02 May 2018, 03:45:03
hi, guy, I am really fond of this colorway. It is rather difficult to choose yellow or yellow-like colors as alpha base color because  it is not to easy to find a compatible colorway in a balanced way. GMK plum and GMK penumbra are examples. Although I really like the real keycaps of plum and penumbra, they turn out not as I expect attractively.
This is a must-buy set.
Hope you get the perfect color combo .good luck.

Thanks a lot! Color is indeed tricky but I don't "live far" from GMK, if the set becomes a reality, I will make sure to pay them a visit to make sure colors are on point 👌👌
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: gnunin on Wed, 02 May 2018, 06:04:25
This set looks fantastic. Yummy even  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: Geass on Wed, 02 May 2018, 07:19:10
I would be interested in modifiers kind of like the Blocknet ones from GMK Laser, otherwise really cool set!


Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: monkt on Wed, 02 May 2018, 10:31:25
This looks really nice! Definitely interested.


Can you say whether the color of the alphas would be closer to most of the renders in your gallery, or closer to the very last image, of the layout? That last image makes the caps look like more of a common beige color, to me. But the rest of the renders show a nice, bright sand color. This obviously captures the theme you are going for much better, assuming it's within GMK's scope. Which is closer to the likely reality?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 02 May 2018, 11:16:44
I would be interested in modifiers kind of like the Blocknet ones from GMK Laser, otherwise really cool set!


Something might be coming 😇


This looks really nice! Definitely interested.


Can you say whether the color of the alphas would be closer to most of the renders in your gallery, or closer to the very last image, of the layout? That last image makes the caps look like more of a common beige color, to me. But the rest of the renders show a nice, bright sand color. This obviously captures the theme you are going for much better, assuming it's within GMK's scope. Which is closer to the likely reality?

Hopefully the one of the 3D renders as I'm not a fan of the beige-ish color of the gmk renders (,the last one). I live in Belgium, right next to Germany, so I will definitely travel there if gmk agrees, to make sure colors are on point 👌👌
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: CandyKeys on Wed, 02 May 2018, 12:21:33
Looks nice! I wish you the best for it!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 02 May 2018, 21:23:06
Put the Japanese kit in the base.


This.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: schlep on Thu, 03 May 2018, 07:41:55
I like the colour scheme. In for this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 03 May 2018, 07:45:31
Any chance for a NorDe/international alpha kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 03 May 2018, 14:56:07
Updated the kits :)

Any chance for a NorDe/international alpha kit?

I asked for one, but they asked me to gauge the interest before going any further with it (might be my fault as I added BE/FR-ISO to the kit)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: DMacKB on Thu, 03 May 2018, 22:18:35
Jesus those brown space bars are nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: monkt on Thu, 03 May 2018, 22:28:49
Jesus those brown space bars are nice.


This is a nice encapsulation of how I feel about the whole set. Yes.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 04 May 2018, 03:45:26
Updated the kits :)

Any chance for a NorDe/international alpha kit?

I asked for one, but they asked me to gauge the interest before going any further with it (might be my fault as I added BE/FR-ISO to the kit)

I wouldn't mind having one bigger international kit with NorDe + BE/FR. Should be easier to hit MOQ if we all need to get the same kit. But in the end it comes down to a balance of the price and how many are interested of course.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 04 May 2018, 04:55:38
Jesus those brown space bars are nice.

Coffee kit added! now with even more brown keys, I freaking love that kit hehe

I wouldn't mind having one bigger international kit with NorDe + BE/FR. Should be easier to hit MOQ if we all need to get the same kit. But in the end it comes down to a balance of the price and how many are interested of course.

I re-requested it, waiting for their answers :)



Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: vewy_nice on Fri, 04 May 2018, 06:54:37
Coffee kit = insta-buy

THANK YOU!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 04 May 2018, 12:11:07
I'd be interested in seeing a render or even an MS paint mockup of the coffee kit with base alphas and blue enter+esc.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 04 May 2018, 14:29:45
I appreciate the Coffee mods, because it gives very nice combo with the alphas from the base set. However it would be nice to speak with or atleast to honor the designer of Coffee keyset. Afaik its /u/Traumtrager on Reddit ( source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91980.msg2504571#msg2504571 )
Coffee keyset was sold previously on keypop tho in dcs profile: http://www.keypop.net/product/coffee-set-2-0-base-set
Not sure if DSA set made it.

I'd be interested in seeing a render or even an MS paint mockup of the coffee kit with base alphas and blue enter+esc.

Coffee is a very lovely keyset.
(https://i.imgur.com/bur1YOA.jpg)
Tho no blue enter :\
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 04 May 2018, 14:35:34
I appreciate the Coffee mods, because it gives very nice combo with the alphas from the base set. However it would be nice to speak with or atleast to honor the designer of Coffee keyset. Afaik its /u/Traumtrager on Reddit ( source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91980.msg2504571#msg2504571 )
Coffee keyset was sold previously on keypop tho in dcs profile: http://www.keypop.net/product/coffee-set-2-0-base-set
Not sure if DSA set made it.

I'd be interested in seeing a render or even an MS paint mockup of the coffee kit with base alphas and blue enter+esc.

Coffee is a very lovely keyset.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/bur1YOA.jpg)

Tho no blue enter :\

Wow. I completely forgot about that Coffee keyset!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 04 May 2018, 14:35:58
I appreciate the Coffee mods, because it gives very nice combo with the alphas from the base set. However it would be nice to speak with or atleast to honor the designer of Coffee keyset. Afaik its /u/Traumtrager on Reddit ( source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91980.msg2504571#msg2504571 )
Coffee keyset was sold previously on keypop tho in dcs profile: http://www.keypop.net/product/coffee-set-2-0-base-set
Not sure if DSA set made it.

I didn't know that, I got the name because Quakemz mentioned it on Top Clack tho that wasn't the inspiration at all haha. I will send a message just in case but I can change the name for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 04 May 2018, 14:54:45
I appreciate the Coffee mods, because it gives very nice combo with the alphas from the base set. However it would be nice to speak with or atleast to honor the designer of Coffee keyset. Afaik its /u/Traumtrager on Reddit ( source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91980.msg2504571#msg2504571 )
Coffee keyset was sold previously on keypop tho in dcs profile: http://www.keypop.net/product/coffee-set-2-0-base-set
Not sure if DSA set made it.

I didn't know that, I got the name because Quakemz mentioned it on Top Clack tho that wasn't the inspiration at all haha. I will send a message just in case but I can change the name for sure.

Was not saying you stole the idea or something. :p I for myself run several times during color design time into coffee colorway  :)) .

Anyway i probably have weird taste but i find coffee is one of those colroways which would blow your mind if you combine it with a freakishly nice and unique wooden case. Add to this nice brown leather wrist rest. You can imagine.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Fri, 04 May 2018, 15:05:04
I appreciate the Coffee mods, because it gives very nice combo with the alphas from the base set. However it would be nice to speak with or atleast to honor the designer of Coffee keyset. Afaik its /u/Traumtrager on Reddit ( source: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91980.msg2504571#msg2504571 )
Coffee keyset was sold previously on keypop tho in dcs profile: http://www.keypop.net/product/coffee-set-2-0-base-set
Not sure if DSA set made it.

I didn't know that, I got the name because Quakemz mentioned it on Top Clack tho that wasn't the inspiration at all haha. I will send a message just in case but I can change the name for sure.

Was not saying you stole the idea or something. I for myself run several times during color design time into coffee colorway  :)) .

Anyway i probably have weird taste but i find coffee is one of those colroways which would blow your mind if you combine it with a freakishly nice and unique wooden case. Add to this nice brown leather wrist rest. You can imagine.
I bet it would be pretty nice with sage or lake m60 as well.

Wrist rest has to be natural leather though, make it gain that patina over time ;)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 04 May 2018, 15:13:48
Was not saying you stole the idea or something. :p I for myself run several times during color design time into coffee colorway  :)) .

Anyway i probably have weird taste but i find coffee is one of those colroways which would blow your mind if you combine it with a freakishly nice and unique wooden case. Add to this nice brown leather wrist rest. You can imagine.

Shhhh, don't popularize the idea! I wanted to slap that keyset on a keeb with a wooden keyboard.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: Geass on Fri, 04 May 2018, 15:23:11
Funnily enough I had the same idea! The colorway just fits perfectly with a wooden case!


Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: realhumanbean2 on Sun, 06 May 2018, 03:14:44
[attachimg=1]

Brown ろ and む keys to match the brown kit would be nice.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: DMacKB on Sun, 06 May 2018, 06:55:28
Coffee renders incoming? :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 06 May 2018, 07:04:52
Coffee renders incoming? :D

Yes :-D renders incoming Soon ™ (all jokes aside, as soon as I get said renders I will post it hehe, hopefully today or tomorrow)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 06 May 2018, 09:11:32
There you go guys!

(http://i.imgur.com/26uhPPC.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: monkt on Sun, 06 May 2018, 09:47:02
There you go guys!

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/26uhPPC.jpg)



Oh. That is really nice. Classy. And a totally different vibe from the blue mods, which I also love. I can't usually justify getting all variations on a set, because...well, because money. This one will be a serious test, though. I may need everything. EVERYTHING.



Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 06 May 2018, 16:01:53
Love the coffee! I would even be “that guy” and say I prefer a complete coffee base with Oasis mods instead of the way it’s now :P


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: frostbyte-gaming on Sun, 06 May 2018, 16:05:27
Much prefer the coffee mods would much prefer this being a coffee inspired set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: monkt on Sun, 06 May 2018, 18:11:17
To me this is GMK Oasis. Not GMK Coffee, or Mocha, or Hot Chocolate, or Mocho Cocoa, or whatever. Someone can create those if they want. And I might even buy them. But I think the original idea for this is more unique. I dig that tropical blue and sand, yet understated vibe. It's soothing, and it's bright in a way that isn't obnoxious. It makes me happy. And so I want to support the creator's inspiration for this set, and to be grateful that in addition to that I can also get the brown mods as a nice add-on. Best of both worlds.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: Shados on Sun, 06 May 2018, 19:55:34
Nice. Definitely interested. I'm assuming the Rama caps are going direct to you from the manu? Because otherwise I'd rather just pick them up from him in person and avoid the shipping cost...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: darkslay3r on Sun, 06 May 2018, 21:23:52
would join for coffee modifier !
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 06 May 2018, 22:25:56
oh man, i want the coffee. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: Chromatrope on Mon, 07 May 2018, 01:15:35
Might snatch Kobe alphas just to combine them with other mods.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: shower_king on Mon, 07 May 2018, 05:43:18
The coffee modifier is more consistent with the alpha's color than the blue modifer
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 07 May 2018, 05:54:46
Thanks a lot for all your messages and feedback, I'll go through them in detail in a bit when I'm done with work, but I wanted to say that I had an idea when developing the keyset, and as much as the coffee kit is popular and as good as it looks, I want to stick to my idea. The main kit will this keep the blue modifiers keys and the coffee kit will be sold apart.

I hope you guys understand and you will still support the keyset when it comes out :-)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: vewy_nice on Mon, 07 May 2018, 06:22:53
Yeah I wouldn't expect you to totally change your vision!

It's your set!
I'm just glad the brown mods have been added as an extra :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 07 May 2018, 13:38:33
The coffee modifier is more consistent with the alpha's color than the blue modifer
So sorry you don't like the blue modifiers as much as I do, I hope you'll join despite that :)

Nice. Definitely interested. I'm assuming the Rama caps are going direct to you from the manu? Because otherwise I'd rather just pick them up from him in person and avoid the shipping cost...
I'd have to see that with Rama as I got told that I had to add the X USD for the caps to ship to me for distribution.

oh man, i want the coffee. 
Thanks for the support!

would join for coffee modifier !
Sexy, ain't it? Thanks for the support!

Thanks a lot! I appreciate your support!

---

Much prefer the coffee mods would much prefer this being a coffee inspired set.

Yeah I wouldn't expect you to totally change your vision!

It's your set!
I'm just glad the brown mods have been added as an extra :)

To me this is GMK Oasis. Not GMK Coffee, or Mocha, or Hot Chocolate, or Mocho Cocoa, or whatever. Someone can create those if they want. And I might even buy them. But I think the original idea for this is more unique. I dig that tropical blue and sand, yet understated vibe. It's soothing, and it's bright in a way that isn't obnoxious. It makes me happy. And so I want to support the creator's inspiration for this set, and to be grateful that in addition to that I can also get the brown mods as a nice add-on. Best of both worlds.

I wanted to end this section with this, I know you guys like the coffee modifiers kit and this is exactly why I am making one, I loved the brown I used and I have to admit the coffee kit looks dope, I do plan on using it on a wooden case from time to time, but I had an idea when developing the set, one that might not be as appealing as the GMK Laser backstory, but one I like nonetheless. I hope you guys understand and you will still support the set :)

Might snatch Kobe alphas just to combine them with other mods.
If you're interested, and like that everyone knows, I asked form a Hangul sublegend alpha set ala Burgundy. A lot of people requested one when I first posted the IC on reddit, but I wasn't sure. The idea started to grow on me (reminded me when I played SC2) and I'm waiting for a reply on how feasible those are but it shouldn't be any problem.


Thanks for your support guys! Will come back to you as soon I hear back from GMK for the different kits (International and Hangul)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 07 May 2018, 15:58:23
Thanks a lot for all your messages and feedback, I'll go through them in detail in a bit when I'm done with work, but I wanted to say that I had an idea when developing the keyset, and as much as the coffee kit is popular and as good as it looks, I want to stick to my idea. The main kit will this keep the blue modifiers keys and the coffee kit will be sold apart.

I hope you guys understand and you will still support the keyset when it comes out :-)

Hey!

I completely respect your decision to keep it going as GMK Oasis but I do have a suggestion.

Please include the coffee arrows and enter keys in the coffee kit. That way people who are interested can just buy the coffee kit or the coffee + kobe kit without having to also buy the base.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 07 May 2018, 16:09:05
Hey!

I completely respect your decision to keep it going as GMK Oasis but I do have a suggestion.

Please include the coffee arrows and enter keys in the coffee kit. That way people who are interested can just buy the coffee kit or the coffee + kobe kit without having to also buy the base.

The problem then is that I either have to include said keys in the coffee kit by removing them from the base kit, which I don't really like, or I leave the core as is and add said keys to the coffee anyway, people buying both kits would then find themselves with twice the keys. I'll give it some thoughts nonetheless
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 07 May 2018, 16:10:46
Hey!

I completely respect your decision to keep it going as GMK Oasis but I do have a suggestion.

Please include the coffee arrows and enter keys in the coffee kit. That way people who are interested can just buy the coffee kit or the coffee + kobe kit without having to also buy the base.

The problem then is that I either have to include said keys in the coffee kit by removing them from the base kit, which I don't really like, or I leave the core as is and add said keys to the coffee anyway, people buying both kits would then find themselves with twice the keys. I'll give it some thoughts nonetheless

I'd appreciate if you would :)

In the end, it's your project. See to it how you believe is best. Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: KeLorean on Mon, 07 May 2018, 22:20:36
damn!!!!those alphas with the coffee mods. im interested. no question. maybe for a few sets here. very nice! im excited for this


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: long_qt_pie on Mon, 07 May 2018, 22:48:49
there's something about the colors on the original mod colors + the rama keys thats just beautiful, dont know why but it just melds so well.  really looking forward to this set
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: bthezebra on Tue, 08 May 2018, 10:22:54
Need muh coffee
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: RSC on Tue, 08 May 2018, 14:36:04
(...)
If you're interested, and like that everyone knows, I asked form a Hangul sublegend alpha set ala Burgundy. A lot of people requested one when I first posted the IC on reddit, but I wasn't sure. The idea started to grow on me (reminded me when I played SC2) and I'm waiting for a reply on how feasible those are but it shouldn't be any problem.


Thanks for your support guys! Will come back to you as soon I hear back from GMK for the different kits (International and Hangul)

With this beautiful colourway, if you offer Hangul legends, I'm in for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 09 May 2018, 14:34:39
Alright guys! We're making progress :D I have to figure out everything with the vendors, but I'm aiming at opening the GB around the first of June.

I'll have a price update as well as MOQ for all kits at the beginning of next one (GMK is taking a looooong weekend). I should have pictures of the Artkey artisan by then as well.

Thanks all for your support and your feedback!

<3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: allancuttingedge on Thu, 10 May 2018, 04:40:31
I'm coming for the alpha with coffee mod, when will the GB start?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 10 May 2018, 04:47:12
I'm coming for the alpha with coffee mod, when will the GB start?

Should be around June 1st :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Previously Blue Paradise)
Post by: NoChance on Thu, 10 May 2018, 21:50:31
Looks fantastic. 1965 vibes
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 14 May 2018, 13:45:37
Hey guys!

Quick update since I'm still waiting on the final prices and the international and Hangul kit (everything found here has also been included in the OP):

1/ the Core Kit's design is done, it shouldn't really move anymore except if I made a mistake or something like that.
(https://i.imgur.com/GJs50se.png)

2/ The Ergo & Plank Kit, now with more legends than ever before
(https://i.imgur.com/UVR6jq9.png)

3/ I'm still waiting on the Artisans to send me pictures or the products. The raijis were recasted as they were missing "a little something" according to Artkey. I did not get to see the V1 but I trust the V2 will be beautiful :D

4/ Samples for the deskmat have been ordered, I hope they'll be ready soon so we can sell them along the keyset, otherwise they will be sold after (either way, I hope you'll like the result though).

Last but not least, here is a render of the set on a modern M0110 in beige cerakote by Janglad

(https://i.imgur.com/p5LKKKd.png)

I hope you have a good one guys!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: RSC on Mon, 14 May 2018, 13:55:01
Just one thing missing (if Hangul set comes through)... R1 1u backspace...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: Hokabuki on Mon, 14 May 2018, 18:00:01
Just one thing missing (if Hangul set comes through)... R1 1u backspace...
I second this!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: jeremyhrvtn on Wed, 16 May 2018, 11:37:27
I have been waiting for this set to be made! Specifically for the coffee mods!

1. Is there a price for the coffee kit yet?
2. Is there any way to make the coffee kit a secondary base set as well as a mod child kit?

It looks like a bank-buster if people like me want it specifically for the coffee kit :'D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 16 May 2018, 12:03:21
I have been waiting for this set to be made! Specifically for the coffee mods!

1. Is there a price for the coffee kit yet?
2. Is there any way to make the coffee kit a secondary base set as well as a mod child kit?

It looks like a bank-buster if people like me want it specifically for the coffee kit :'D

I'm still waiting on the quotes from gmk for the kits that weren't in the original IC (spacebar, ergo/plank, etc), I was supposed to have them by the begining of the week but I have yet to get them.

As for the coffee kit, trust me, I would like to offer you guys a coffee bundle with alphas and mods, but if I have to run both in the same sale, and because those are custom colors, I would need to sell 250 core kits for each which might prove to be difficult considering the large amount of (GMK) sets being released recently.

I will try to get the prices soon and get them as low as possible :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: realhumanbean2 on Sat, 19 May 2018, 16:42:54
Will the Kobe kit include brown keys to match the Coffee kit?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 19 May 2018, 16:48:33
Will the Kobe kit include brown keys to match the Coffee kit?

Unfortunately, I don't think it will. I am thinking of removing the blue keys from the kit as well so it is purely an alpha kit.


I finally got the final GMK prices for almost all the kits (I am starting to think they don't want to produce an international kit at all since no matter how many times I ask for an update, they dodge the question; and the hangul kit is ... well... as dead as the international kit). I am now waiting on the sellers prices and we should be good to go. Most of the kits are in their final form now (I have to admit I didn't work a lot on the kobe kit because it didn't seem that popular in the first place).

I hope to have an update for you guys after the long weekend.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: Kerasan on Sat, 19 May 2018, 17:53:14
the first time I saw this set I was not convinced.

Today I am convinced to take all the kits from the set.

KMK Labs
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: RSC on Sat, 19 May 2018, 18:21:00
Will the Kobe kit include brown keys to match the Coffee kit?

Unfortunately, I don't think it will. I am thinking of removing the blue keys from the kit as well so it is purely an alpha kit.


I finally got the final GMK prices for almost all the kits (I am starting to think they don't want to produce an international kit at all since no matter how many times I ask for an update, they dodge the question; and the hangul kit is ... well... as dead as the international kit). I am now waiting on the sellers prices and we should be good to go. Most of the kits are in their final form now (I have to admit I didn't work a lot on the kobe kit because it didn't seem that popular in the first place).

I hope to have an update for you guys after the long weekend.

Why..? They did it for GMK Burgundy...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 20 May 2018, 02:57:50
the first time I saw this set I was not convinced.

Today I am convinced to take all the kits from the set.

KMK Labs

Thanks a lot for your support <3

Will the Kobe kit include brown keys to match the Coffee kit?

Unfortunately, I don't think it will. I am thinking of removing the blue keys from the kit as well so it is purely an alpha kit.


I finally got the final GMK prices for almost all the kits (I am starting to think they don't want to produce an international kit at all since no matter how many times I ask for an update, they dodge the question; and the hangul kit is ... well... as dead as the international kit). I am now waiting on the sellers prices and we should be good to go. Most of the kits are in their final form now (I have to admit I didn't work a lot on the kobe kit because it didn't seem that popular in the first place).

I hope to have an update for you guys after the long weekend.

Why..? They did it for GMK Burgundy...

I know, right? I keep asking about the kits, and they keep dodging it. When I first asked about it, the person I was in touch with told me he would have to check with the team in charge of that, but that there shouldn't be any problem. I'll keep pushing for that kit as it seems to be quite popular and has been asked a fair amount of time and I'll keep you guys updated!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: tanvir175 on Sun, 20 May 2018, 03:15:22
I know, right? I keep asking about the kits, and they keep dodging it. When I first asked about it, the person I was in touch with told me he would have to check with the team in charge of that, but that there shouldn't be any problem. I'll keep pushing for that kit as it seems to be quite popular and has been asked a fair amount of time and I'll keep you guys updated!

Hangul kit is actually struggling quite a bit on GMK Burgundy. And, technically since they're paying for the molds, you should be asking cocobrais. I think that's how it works, at least.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 20 May 2018, 03:18:41
I know, right? I keep asking about the kits, and they keep dodging it. When I first asked about it, the person I was in touch with told me he would have to check with the team in charge of that, but that there shouldn't be any problem. I'll keep pushing for that kit as it seems to be quite popular and has been asked a fair amount of time and I'll keep you guys updated!

Hangul kit is actually struggling quite a bit on GMK Burgundy. And, technically since they're paying for the molds, you should be asking cocobrais. I think that's how it works, at least.

Is cocobrais paying for the mold? I didn't know that, always thought it was GMK, specially since when I brought it up, I got told that it had to be asked to the team in charge of that. I still have at least two weeks to go before any GB happens so I will figure everything out and will PM cocobrais as well :-)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: Bubblegum on Sun, 20 May 2018, 05:17:31
1.25u left shift seem to be missing from the Coffee kit. Same goes for ISO Enter, but that's included in the Base kit, so that makes sense :)

NorDe/International is not gonna happen? May only go for the Coffee modifiers if that ends up being the case. Shame! Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 21 May 2018, 10:07:47
In five minutes, if I figure out how to do it, a poll with be up in the OP with a simple question, would you guys rather see a GMK Oasis set or a GMK Coffee set.

I know what I've said in the past, and as much as I want to stick to my original idea, I have to face it, there are a **** ton of GMK keysets being released right now, and even the hyped ones tend to sell poorly, or, let's say worse than originally expected. I am then left with a choice, I either run GMK Oasis as I imagined it, or I run it as GMK Coffee and I add a blue add on kit as an extra.

Here is where you guys come in, please answer the poll and let's decide together what this kit will become.

<3


Poll link: here (http://www.strawpoll.me/15740786) just in case :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: elfick on Mon, 21 May 2018, 10:50:41
In five minutes, if I figure out how to do it, a poll with be up in the OP with a simple question, would you guys rather see a GMK Oasis set or a GMK Coffee set.

I know what I've said in the past, and as much as I want to stick to my original idea, I have to face it, there are a **** ton of GMK keysets being released right now, and even the hyped ones tend to sell poorly, or, let's say worse than originally expected. I am then left with a choice, I either run GMK Oasis as I imagined it, or I run it as GMK Coffee and I add a blue add on kit as an extra.

Here is where you guys come in, please answer the poll and let's decide together what this kit will become.

<3


Poll link: here (http://www.strawpoll.me/15740786) just in case :D
Whichever way you go, I think you need to change the name from "Coffee" to "Latte"... there's far too much cream to be coffee! :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: LeoShi on Mon, 21 May 2018, 12:16:54
To me, I want coffee set much more
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 21 May 2018, 13:47:40
In five minutes, if I figure out how to do it, a poll with be up in the OP with a simple question, would you guys rather see a GMK Oasis set or a GMK Coffee set.

I know what I've said in the past, and as much as I want to stick to my original idea, I have to face it, there are a **** ton of GMK keysets being released right now, and even the hyped ones tend to sell poorly, or, let's say worse than originally expected. I am then left with a choice, I either run GMK Oasis as I imagined it, or I run it as GMK Coffee and I add a blue add on kit as an extra.

Here is where you guys come in, please answer the poll and let's decide together what this kit will become.

<3


Poll link: here (http://www.strawpoll.me/15740786) just in case :D

it's nice to involve the community in this way  :thumb:

In five minutes, if I figure out how to do it, a poll with be up in the OP with a simple question, would you guys rather see a GMK Oasis set or a GMK Coffee set.

I know what I've said in the past, and as much as I want to stick to my original idea, I have to face it, there are a **** ton of GMK keysets being released right now, and even the hyped ones tend to sell poorly, or, let's say worse than originally expected. I am then left with a choice, I either run GMK Oasis as I imagined it, or I run it as GMK Coffee and I add a blue add on kit as an extra.

Here is where you guys come in, please answer the poll and let's decide together what this kit will become.

<3


Poll link: here (http://www.strawpoll.me/15740786) just in case :D
Whichever way you go, I think you need to change the name from "Coffee" to "Latte"... there's far too much cream to be coffee! :D

Cappuccino  :p

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: RSC on Mon, 21 May 2018, 15:52:11
In five minutes, if I figure out how to do it, a poll with be up in the OP with a simple question, would you guys rather see a GMK Oasis set or a GMK Coffee set.

I know what I've said in the past, and as much as I want to stick to my original idea, I have to face it, there are a **** ton of GMK keysets being released right now, and even the hyped ones tend to sell poorly, or, let's say worse than originally expected. I am then left with a choice, I either run GMK Oasis as I imagined it, or I run it as GMK Coffee and I add a blue add on kit as an extra.

Here is where you guys come in, please answer the poll and let's decide together what this kit will become.

<3


Poll link: here (http://www.strawpoll.me/15740786) just in case :D

You know what they say: those who stand for nothing, fall for anything. Stick to your original idea, it's a beautiful colour combo and it's actually something new...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 21 May 2018, 16:13:55
You know what they say: those who stand for nothing, fall for anything. Stick to your original idea, it's a beautiful colour combo and it's actually something new...

I was expecting the coffee kit to win by a larger margin (4 votes at the time of writing). If this trend keeps going I will probably keep the kits as they are, I really enjoy that color combo as well.

But thanks for your support
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 21 May 2018, 17:19:06
You know what they say: those who stand for nothing, fall for anything. Stick to your original idea, it's a beautiful colour combo and it's actually something new...

I was expecting the coffee kit to win my a larger margin (4 votes at the time of writing). If this trend keeps going I will probably keep the kits as they are, I really enjoy that color combo as well.

But thanks for your support

So there will be GMK Oasis with the Coffee add on?  That sounds good to me :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 21 May 2018, 17:22:45
N/A
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: monkt on Mon, 21 May 2018, 17:56:59
In five minutes, if I figure out how to do it, a poll with be up in the OP with a simple question, would you guys rather see a GMK Oasis set or a GMK Coffee set.

I know what I've said in the past, and as much as I want to stick to my original idea, I have to face it, there are a **** ton of GMK keysets being released right now, and even the hyped ones tend to sell poorly, or, let's say worse than originally expected. I am then left with a choice, I either run GMK Oasis as I imagined it, or I run it as GMK Coffee and I add a blue add on kit as an extra.

Here is where you guys come in, please answer the poll and let's decide together what this kit will become.

<3


Poll link: here (http://www.strawpoll.me/15740786) just in case :D

You know what they say: those who stand for nothing, fall for anything. Stick to your original idea, it's a beautiful colour combo and it's actually something new...


I couldn't agree more. The blue and sand is special.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 22 May 2018, 06:44:05
I have no problem dropping the extra dough on a coffee add-on kit ;)

And that'd give me a set of uniquely colored light blue mods to mix and match with other sets!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 22 May 2018, 07:02:00
I have no problem dropping the extra dough on a coffee add-on kit ;)

And that'd give me a set of uniquely colored light blue mods to mix and match with other sets!

You know what they say: those who stand for nothing, fall for anything. Stick to your original idea, it's a beautiful colour combo and it's actually something new...
I couldn't agree more. The blue and sand is special.

Thank you guys for your support! As it stands right now 49% of the votes on the StrawPoll are for Oasis against 51% for Coffee and it's a 53/47 in favor of Oasis on IG. I'll leave it up three more hours (more or less) and take a decision by then, but I'm pretty sure I'll go ahead and launch GMK Oasis (with a coffee kit) on June 1st.

I finally got the Artkey pictures for the Raiji that will be raffled to people joining the GB. I hope you guys like it as much as I do:
(https://i.imgur.com/Z0zBrFj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zYewMMh.jpg)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 22 May 2018, 08:00:04
I have no problem dropping the extra dough on a coffee add-on kit ;)

And that'd give me a set of uniquely colored light blue mods to mix and match with other sets!

I totally agree with you

P.S. @JSaintS I didn't understand a thing, in addition to the artisan (beautiful) caps that will be part of the lottery, will the keycaps of rama be ordered as it was for the gmk olivia?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 22 May 2018, 10:23:54
I have no problem dropping the extra dough on a coffee add-on kit ;)

And that'd give me a set of uniquely colored light blue mods to mix and match with other sets!

I totally agree with you

P.S. @JSaintS I didn't understand a thing, in addition to the artisan (beautiful) caps that will be part of the lottery, will the keycaps of rama be ordered as it was for the gmk olivia?

Yup, I should have made that clearer; the Rama keycaps will be sold in a GB with a MOQ of 50 (which is what I got told by RAMA) :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 22 May 2018, 10:50:31
I have no problem dropping the extra dough on a coffee add-on kit ;)

And that'd give me a set of uniquely colored light blue mods to mix and match with other sets!

Same here.  I'm all in :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 22 May 2018, 13:28:02
I have no problem dropping the extra dough on a coffee add-on kit ;)

And that'd give me a set of uniquely colored light blue mods to mix and match with other sets!

I totally agree with you

P.S. @JSaintS I didn't understand a thing, in addition to the artisan (beautiful) caps that will be part of the lottery, will the keycaps of rama be ordered as it was for the gmk olivia?

Yup, I should have made that clearer; the Rama keycaps will be sold in a GB with a MOQ of 50 (which is what I got told by RAMA) :)

fantastic, this set is really complete, it does not lack anything imho

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: rmendis on Wed, 23 May 2018, 00:09:09
This is looking great, JS! Let's make it happen!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: shower_king on Wed, 23 May 2018, 00:35:13
Vote. If the coffee set has been settled, a blue child kit is preferred as well.
I see the awesome RAMA novelty key in golden color.  I am fond of blue better. Anyway, the update is prompt and timely. Thank you
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 23 May 2018, 00:38:21
Vote. If the coffee set has been settled, a blue child kit is preferred as well.
I see the awesome RAMA novelty key in golden color.  I am fond of blue better. Anyway, the update is prompt and timely. Thank you

When I "closed" the vote yesterday (24h in) it was 50%/50% I thus decided to go with Oasis (IG was showing me a 53/47 in favor of Oasis).

As for the RAMA key, I tried to have it in blue but unfortunately that was not possible :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis
Post by: RSC on Wed, 23 May 2018, 01:43:41
Great news! And the artisan looks amazing!!! Now you just have to make the Hangul kit happen and this set will be 10/10!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Soon! June 1st)
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 23 May 2018, 16:21:39
Waiting on the European prices to  update the OP but I've got the prices for the US and Asian Proxy.

Good news for Australia and NZ, those orders will be handled by zFrontier!

Last but not least, I don't lose hope for the Hangul and International kits, I have yet to hear back from GMK but so does donutcable with another set, so I'm not too worried; I'm sure I'll hear back from them regarding those kits! :)

Expect an update as soon as tomorrow with the updated prices for all the kits.

<2
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Soon! June 1st)
Post by: mousetrap00 on Thu, 24 May 2018, 09:58:39
May i just ask, will the coffee kit still run as an addon??
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Soon! June 1st)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 24 May 2018, 10:08:30
May i just ask, will the coffee kit still run as an addon??

Definitely! I never planned on abandoning either ones of those kits, I just wanted to make sure which one was the most popular to put it in the core kit!
Title: GMK Oasis update + GB announcement!
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 24 May 2018, 18:50:46
Update Time

Prices
VendorsBase kit (MOQ 250)Base kit (MOQ 500)Kobe (MOQ 150)Spacebar kitErgo & Plank kitCoffeSleeve 1m Cable 1.5m Cable
MyKeyboard (EU)136€130€55€35€110€76€26€16€18.5€
Novelkeys (USA)$155$145$70$35$115$85TBDTBDTBD
zFrontier (Asia)CNY998 ($168)CNY938 ($158)CNY450 ($73)CNY226 ($37)CNY748 ($122)CNY545 ($89) CNY198 ($32) CNY157 ($25.5) CNY173 ($28)

Kits modifications + What’s to come
Kits are pretty much set in stone. That said, some things are still moving a little:

GB Announcement
GB should go up on June 1st, emphasise on the should as this might be subject to change depending on GMK and how long they are going to take to come back at him regarding the last kits.
The vendors for the group buy will be:


Artisans
I just wanted to address this bit since I’ve had a couple of questions recently; Artisans will be sold in two ways:

Every person joining the Oasis GB will be granted one unique entry into the raffles (meaning, one entry in Artkey's raffle and one in Briz's). Invoices will be sent shortly after we close the GB (just to time for me to collect everyone's name, randomize and select the winners).



That should be all for now, but don't hesitate to PM me!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Soon! June 1st)
Post by: RSC on Fri, 25 May 2018, 01:37:24
Good news! Can you also confirm the base set will include a R1 1u backspace key? This is really important.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Soon! June 1st)
Post by: Createboardhk on Fri, 25 May 2018, 04:16:20
I am glad to hear that! I'm ready!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Soon! June 1st)
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 25 May 2018, 05:14:57
Quick update! :)

I got a mail this morning (5/25) regarding the hangul, international kit, addition of a couple of keys to the Coffee kit and 1u backspace in the core kit. All these changes and kits will be made BUT the person in charge of those will only be back in office at the end of next week, meaning we will push the GB back a little more as I prefer to have a complete offering :) I hope you guys will like the end result!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Soon! June 1st)
Post by: monkt on Fri, 25 May 2018, 09:09:46
Quick update! :)

I got a mail this morning (5/25) regarding the hangul, international kit, addition of a couple of keys to the Coffee kit and 1u backspace in the core kit. All these changes and kits will be made BUT the person in charge of those will only be back in office at the end of next week, meaning we will push the GB back a little more as I prefer to have a complete offering :) I hope you guys will like the end result!


I'm happy to see this coming together very nicely so far. Has there been any update on how the colors will look compared to the renders? I think there was some discussion of this in the beginning, regarding the color of the sand caps.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Soon! June 1st)
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 25 May 2018, 09:15:16
Quick update! :)

I got a mail this morning (5/25) regarding the hangul, international kit, addition of a couple of keys to the Coffee kit and 1u backspace in the core kit. All these changes and kits will be made BUT the person in charge of those will only be back in office at the end of next week, meaning we will push the GB back a little more as I prefer to have a complete offering :) I hope you guys will like the end result!


I'm happy to see this coming together very nicely so far. Has there been any update on how the colors will look compared to the renders? I think there was some discussion of this in the beginning, regarding the color of the sand caps.

I remember mentionning it to GMK and to Janglad (who did the renders). Janglad confirmed it would look really close to his renders and GMK reassured me by telling me that they would send me samples to make sure the colors would look good. Other than that, I also mentionned the fact that I live in Belgium, and I won't hesitate to visit GMK (should they allow me to) to make sure colors are matching what I imagined for the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Soon! June 1st)
Post by: crystalhand on Fri, 25 May 2018, 09:24:18
I really like the look of this keyset overall.  The color scheme sells it for me.  I also appreciate seeing an ergo kit with actual legends on it. Although this does decrease the flexibility slightly.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Soon! June 1st)
Post by: monkt on Fri, 25 May 2018, 12:54:42
I remember mentionning it to GMK and to Janglad (who did the renders). Janglad confirmed it would look really close to his renders and GMK reassured me by telling me that they would send me samples to make sure the colors would look good. Other than that, I also mentionned the fact that I live in Belgium, and I won't hesitate to visit GMK (should they allow me to) to make sure colors are matching what I imagined for the set.


Great, thank you! Looking forward to when you get those samples.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Soon! June 1st)
Post by: Kerasan on Fri, 25 May 2018, 14:22:42
Quick update! :)

I got a mail this morning (5/25) regarding the hangul, international kit, addition of a couple of keys to the Coffee kit and 1u backspace in the core kit. All these changes and kits will be made BUT the person in charge of those will only be back in office at the end of next week, meaning we will push the GB back a little more as I prefer to have a complete offering :) I hope you guys will like the end result!


so it will not start June 1st?

However this is excellent news,

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 27 May 2018, 15:59:05
Profile preference:
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: Kerasan on Sun, 27 May 2018, 16:34:33
Profile preference:
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974


a sad news, I hope this set remains gmk, it's perfect imho

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 27 May 2018, 16:44:08
Profile preference:
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974

a sad news, I hope this set remains gmk, it's perfect imho

KMK Labs.


For sure! I still plan on running it with GMK, but those comments got me thinking and I have to admit that this set is and never will be as popular as other hyped sets. I just don't want to be left without any options, the colorway imports me more than the profile as I really love it, so if the GMK GB fails, I will run this as DSA.

The low MOQ is really a plus - I've heard the DSA manufacturer worked with a MOQ of 100 (but in another mail, the person I am in contact with told me that they virtually had no MOQ, which would be great news for the set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: Kerasan on Sun, 27 May 2018, 16:56:55

I understand, maybe the problem is too many keysets released in recent months. But I think an attempt can be made.  :thumb:

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: monkt on Sun, 27 May 2018, 18:34:22
Profile preference:
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974 (https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974)

a sad news, I hope this set remains gmk, it's perfect imho

KMK Labs.


For sure! I still plan on running it with GMK, but those comments got me thinking and I have to admit that this set is and never will be as popular as other hyped sets. I just don't want to be left without any options, the colorway imports me more than the profile as I really love it, so if the GMK GB fails, I will run this as DSA.

The low MOQ is really a plus - I've heard the DSA manufacturer worked with a MOQ of 100 (but in another mail, the person I am in contact with told me that they virtually had no MOQ, which would be great news for the set.


GMK suits this set best, I think. To me, the boxy look of a flatter, more uniform profile doesn't seem to pair as well with the idea of sand and water. I actually think SA would be really nice, with the smoother texture and the nice roundedness complementing the inspiration for this set, but I'm not sure that would improve your MOQ concerns. No idea what current SA set MOQs are like. With DSA, how would the colors be affected?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 27 May 2018, 18:42:45
GMK suits this set best, I think. To me, the boxy look of a flatter, more uniform profile doesn't seem to pair as well with the idea of sand and water. I actually think SA would be really nice, with the smoother texture and the nice roundedness complementing the inspiration for this set, but I'm not sure that would improve your MOQ concerns. No idea what current SA set MOQs are like. With DSA, how would the colors be affected?

I would prefer GMK as well hehe, I didn't think someone would find a reason linked to the theme tho haha.

I know a couple of people have proposed MaxKeys, but the problem is that they don't offer any ISO compatibility which would make me kinda sad since that's what I use. As for SP, I have no idea about their MOQ, the only problem there would be the ETA ^^

As for the colors for the DSA variant, I am pretty confident that they would look good (I wouldn't consider it otherwise). They made a pretty good job with Starry Night, Mystery and Drifter plus I would have the possibility of getting a set done before the GB to ensure everything looks good.

Again, I would prefer to run this through GMK, but that MOQ is killing me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: goodman247 on Sun, 27 May 2018, 22:47:32
This certainly reminds me of a dessert oasis, I can feel the sweat on my face now just looking at it!!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: RSC on Mon, 28 May 2018, 02:35:38
You need to run it through Massdrop...
Title: h
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 28 May 2018, 04:57:58
You need to run it through Massdrop...

Ah that would probably solve the MOQ issue (although that's not even sure) what that would make it hell for us european customers, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: bobdenard on Mon, 28 May 2018, 05:48:01
Really hope this gets made by GMK, this would be my first keyset but I actually prefer it to virtually every other keysets I've seen. I love that color scheme, amazing work really!
Fingers crossed  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 28 May 2018, 05:50:17
Really hope this gets made by GMK, this would be my first keyset but I actually prefer it to virtually every other keysets I've seen. I love that color scheme, amazing work really!
Fingers crossed  :)

Looks like you're not the only one hehe, the poll result is what I expected, and I will definitely run this as a GMK set. I did contact a DSA manufacturer to get more options, but I knew even back then that I wanted to run it as a GMK set.

Thanks for the support <2
Title: Re: h
Post by: avid on Mon, 28 May 2018, 11:05:24
You need to run it through Massdrop...

Ah that would probably solve the MOQ issue (although that's not even sure) what that would make it hell for us european customers, wouldn't it?

Why? MD is fine for europeans.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: Geass on Mon, 28 May 2018, 11:13:04
You need to run it through Massdrop...

Ah that would probably solve the MOQ issue (although that's not even sure) what that would make it hell for us european customers, wouldn't it?

Why? MD is fine for europeans.
Not quite because shipping is often quite high and in some cases there can be extra taxes you have to pay. Also sometimes the items get stuck in customs and that can take quite a while.

Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: h
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 28 May 2018, 11:19:19
You need to run it through Massdrop...

Ah that would probably solve the MOQ issue (although that's not even sure) what that would make it hell for us european customers, wouldn't it?

Why? MD is fine for europeans.

As someone else mentioned before shipping can be quite high, but not even that, I've had to pay up to 30€ (yes, I mean euros) for a 26$ (yes, I mean dollars) for an artisan I bought there. Not MD's fault as they are a business and they need to declare full value of the items, I understand.

That and the fact that I laugh every time i think that GmK sets are produced in Germany, sent to MD in the States and then shipped back to European customers haha.

That said, if I need to go through them, as they have more reach than other vendors, I will definitely do it (as a matter of fact I already contacted them about the set).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 28 May 2018, 12:12:07
Really hope this gets made by GMK, this would be my first keyset but I actually prefer it to virtually every other keysets I've seen. I love that color scheme, amazing work really!
Fingers crossed  :)

quote... this set is really well done, very original. it is also complete thanks to the cofee kit which makes it the perfect solution for the wooden builds that I personally love. it's a set that should be seen on a keyboard, at first glance I was not convinced. then I saw the render of the modern m0110 and I fell in love with this set.

beautiful colors, 2 sets in 1, complete kits, wonderful artisan, what's missing? Sometimes we complain too much in this community. this set merit to reach the moq imho.

KMK Labs :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: long_qt_pie on Wed, 30 May 2018, 18:18:17
Would also prefer to keep it GMK over DSA but understand your considerations
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 30 May 2018, 20:57:05
Would also prefer to keep it GMK over DSA but understand your considerations

Another vote to keep GMK.  I just never keep my DSA sets on boards for long, as they look nice, but when I need to get work done, GMK or XDA all the way.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: 1Weeb on Wed, 30 May 2018, 22:48:40
I really like the kobe and coffe kits, definitely going in on this, now I just need to find a wood case to match it with  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: elfick on Thu, 31 May 2018, 12:17:31
Profile preference:
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 31 May 2018, 12:24:32
Profile preference:
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.

I didn't (yet) as I tend to associate SP with higher prices, and the fact that I never typed on SA, but I can do that. That said I have never heard of DSS so I will have to check.

For the moment, I am in contact with :

1) a DSA manufacturer to see what can be done (but they warned me they had a lot of their plate right now and it would take a little time);

2) Massdrop. This is a little more tricky as (a) i'd prefer to stick with the vendors I picked since I really like them and I know them but (b) Massdrop has a better reach since, well, it's Massdrop, even though (c) European customers might suffer from this (I know that, being European myself) with import taxes. That and the potential interest check having to be done on Massdrop itself.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: LeoShi on Thu, 31 May 2018, 12:41:57
It may be true that getting 250 MOQ is difficult, after looking at other recent GB.
So maybe DCS? since I have no interest in DSA.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: ptiede on Thu, 31 May 2018, 12:43:45
Profile preference:
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.

I didn't (yet) as I tend to associate SP with higher prices, and the fact that I never typed on SA, but I can do that. That said I have never heard of DSS so I will have to check.

For the moment, I am in contact with :

1) a DSA manufacturer to see what can be done (but they warned me they had a lot of their plate right now and it would take a little time);

2) Massdrop. This is a little more tricky as (a) i'd prefer to stick with the vendors I picked since I really like them and I know them but (b) Massdrop has a better reach since, well, it's Massdrop, even though (c) European customers might suffer from this (I know that, being European myself) with import taxes. That and the potential interest check having to be done on Massdrop itself.

Have you considered doing jtk? Apparently, their new legends are much better and looking at the group buy on switchmod.net their moq is 100.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 31 May 2018, 12:47:24
I’ve just been lurking up until now but DSS sounds interesting. The grainy texture on top can help represent the sand in this set. Plus possibly the waves. A spherical cherry-like profile would be cool and someone has to be the first to try it out.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 31 May 2018, 14:16:47
Profile preference:
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.

I didn't (yet) as I tend to associate SP with higher prices, and the fact that I never typed on SA, but I can do that. That said I have never heard of DSS so I will have to check.

For the moment, I am in contact with :

1) a DSA manufacturer to see what can be done (but they warned me they had a lot of their plate right now and it would take a little time);

2) Massdrop. This is a little more tricky as (a) i'd prefer to stick with the vendors I picked since I really like them and I know them but (b) Massdrop has a better reach since, well, it's Massdrop, even though (c) European customers might suffer from this (I know that, being European myself) with import taxes. That and the potential interest check having to be done on Massdrop itself.

Have you considered doing jtk? Apparently, their new legends are much better and looking at the group buy on switchmod.net their moq is 100.

I did not consider them since they lack ISO compatibility :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: Kerasan on Fri, 01 June 2018, 08:51:50
Profile preference:
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.

I didn't (yet) as I tend to associate SP with higher prices, and the fact that I never typed on SA, but I can do that. That said I have never heard of DSS so I will have to check.

For the moment, I am in contact with :

1) a DSA manufacturer to see what can be done (but they warned me they had a lot of their plate right now and it would take a little time);

2) Massdrop. This is a little more tricky as (a) i'd prefer to stick with the vendors I picked since I really like them and I know them but (b) Massdrop has a better reach since, well, it's Massdrop, even though (c) European customers might suffer from this (I know that, being European myself) with import taxes. That and the potential interest check having to be done on Massdrop itself.

yes, massdrop is a problem for us, taxes and customs have a strong influence on the choice of purchase. However certainly from more visibility to the set. For me it would be a shame because I could not take everything. But obviously it's a personal problem.

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 01 June 2018, 10:23:41
Profile preference:
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.

I didn't (yet) as I tend to associate SP with higher prices, and the fact that I never typed on SA, but I can do that. That said I have never heard of DSS so I will have to check.

For the moment, I am in contact with :

1) a DSA manufacturer to see what can be done (but they warned me they had a lot of their plate right now and it would take a little time);

2) Massdrop. This is a little more tricky as (a) i'd prefer to stick with the vendors I picked since I really like them and I know them but (b) Massdrop has a better reach since, well, it's Massdrop, even though (c) European customers might suffer from this (I know that, being European myself) with import taxes. That and the potential interest check having to be done on Massdrop itself.

I don't mind Massdrop personally, and it does increase reach, as many are finding out in the current climate, it can be hard to reach MOQ.  Not sure what the backlog is like on MD at he current time, however.  You're looking at a few months until GB.  You could also reach out to Sheraton at OriginativeCo.  He's done a few things with designers, and has even bailed out GMK Necro.  But who knows what his current capacity is.

I like JTK... but I like GMK more.  Never seen DSS... DCS, yes... and Midnight is a good set in DCS.  But DSS?  Where's the reference to that?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: vewy_nice on Fri, 01 June 2018, 10:26:55
DSS is an old profile that Signature Plastics SHOULD soon be unveiling from the dusty back cupboards (after some retooling)

It has been announced here and there, and was even available to try out at a meetup somewhere.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7qvwsr/signature_plastics_announces_revival_of_dss/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: elfick on Mon, 04 June 2018, 17:48:50
Profile preference:
I've heard you loud and clear, some of you guys think this is a subpar set and that a 250 MOQ is a dream. I of course love this set and this colorway and I know I am not the only one BUT I'm not stupid and I know 250 core set is a huge number for a GMK set nowadays. I asked you guys a question a couple of days ago to see if you prefered Coffee or Oasis and the results (at the time of closing the strawpoll) were pretty similar. That said, I am actually thinking of changing manufacturer and making it a DSA Set. I know DSA is not everyone's cup of tea (that's why there is a coffee set incl.) but they would have a lower MOQ and would thus allow more flexibility with the kits. So here I am again, asking for your guys point of view : https://www.strawpoll.me/15779974
I'm hesitant to vote because I have no interest in DSA but also think that, as beautiful as the set it, it may be hard to get the 250 MOQ. Have you reached out to SP to see if/when they are bringing back DSS as that profile IMHO would be perfect for this.

I didn't (yet) as I tend to associate SP with higher prices, and the fact that I never typed on SA, but I can do that. That said I have never heard of DSS so I will have to check.

For the moment, I am in contact with :

1) a DSA manufacturer to see what can be done (but they warned me they had a lot of their plate right now and it would take a little time);

2) Massdrop. This is a little more tricky as (a) i'd prefer to stick with the vendors I picked since I really like them and I know them but (b) Massdrop has a better reach since, well, it's Massdrop, even though (c) European customers might suffer from this (I know that, being European myself) with import taxes. That and the potential interest check having to be done on Massdrop itself.

I don't mind Massdrop personally, and it does increase reach, as many are finding out in the current climate, it can be hard to reach MOQ.  Not sure what the backlog is like on MD at he current time, however.  You're looking at a few months until GB.  You could also reach out to Sheraton at OriginativeCo.  He's done a few things with designers, and has even bailed out GMK Necro.  But who knows what his current capacity is.

I like JTK... but I like GMK more.  Never seen DSS... DCS, yes... and Midnight is a good set in DCS.  But DSS?  Where's the reference to that?
Forgot where I saw this image posted but found it in my history, apologies for not citing the source... DSS is dead center:
https://i.imgur.com/Yc4hUY1.jpg

There is also more info and photos here:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93584.0
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (GB delayed as we wait on GMK) | Poll: what profile do you prefer
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 04 June 2018, 18:36:33
So the 60%?  That looks a lot like SA, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.  And ABS, which is more vibrant than PBT to me.  I'd buy it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 05 June 2018, 12:49:12
Heya!

Sad news today unfortunately: my vendors brought to my attention that multiplying the kits also come with the problem and possibility of none of them hitting MOQ and having you guys back off, reducing the number of core kit orders and causing a loss of money on our part due to refund. With that in mind, I had to make a choice and select a fewer number of kits, if you wanted one of the abandonned kits, I am trully sorry, trust me. I thus decided to keep the Core kit, the coffe kit, the spacebar kit and the Kobe or Hangul kit.

thanks for your support guys


PS: for the Hangul kit, please check the OP as I'm still waiting on GMK.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 05 June 2018, 12:56:10
Heya!

Sad news today unfortunately: my vendors brought to my attention that multiplying the kits also come with the problem and possibility of none of them hitting MOQ and having you guys back off, reducing the number of core kit orders and causing a loss of money on our part due to refund. With that in mind, I had to make a choice and select a fewer number of kits, if you wanted one of the abandonned kits, I am trully sorry, trust me. I thus decided to keep the Core kit, the coffe kit, the spacebar kit and the Kobe or Hangul kit.

thanks for your support guys


PS: for the Hangul kit, please check the OP as I'm still waiting on GMK.

it is sad but probably it is necessary, all my support.  :thumb:

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 05 June 2018, 13:15:26
Heya!

Sad news today unfortunately: my vendors brought to my attention that multiplying the kits also come with the problem and possibility of none of them hitting MOQ and having you guys back off, reducing the number of core kit orders and causing a loss of money on our part due to refund. With that in mind, I had to make a choice and select a fewer number of kits, if you wanted one of the abandonned kits, I am trully sorry, trust me. I thus decided to keep the Core kit, the coffe kit, the spacebar kit and the Kobe or Hangul kit.

thanks for your support guys


PS: for the Hangul kit, please check the OP as I'm still waiting on GMK.

How will you decide Kobe vs. Hangul?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 05 June 2018, 13:18:01
Heya!

Sad news today unfortunately: my vendors brought to my attention that multiplying the kits also come with the problem and possibility of none of them hitting MOQ and having you guys back off, reducing the number of core kit orders and causing a loss of money on our part due to refund. With that in mind, I had to make a choice and select a fewer number of kits, if you wanted one of the abandonned kits, I am trully sorry, trust me. I thus decided to keep the Core kit, the coffe kit, the spacebar kit and the Kobe or Hangul kit.

thanks for your support guys


PS: for the Hangul kit, please check the OP as I'm still waiting on GMK.

How will you decide Kobe vs. Hangul?

I have a preference for Hangul since those will come with Latin legends and Korean sublegends, but I will also listen to what you guys want :-)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 05 June 2018, 14:00:55
Heya!

Sad news today unfortunately: my vendors brought to my attention that multiplying the kits also come with the problem and possibility of none of them hitting MOQ and having you guys back off, reducing the number of core kit orders and causing a loss of money on our part due to refund. With that in mind, I had to make a choice and select a fewer number of kits, if you wanted one of the abandonned kits, I am trully sorry, trust me. I thus decided to keep the Core kit, the coffe kit, the spacebar kit and the Kobe or Hangul kit.

thanks for your support guys


PS: for the Hangul kit, please check the OP as I'm still waiting on GMK.

How will you decide Kobe vs. Hangul?

I have a preference for Hangul since those will come with Latin legends and Korean sublegends, but I will also listen to what you guys want :-)

Personally, my preference is Kobe.  But whatever you think will make MOQ; I just wouldn't be in for Hangul as I have no knowledge of Korean  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: RSC on Tue, 05 June 2018, 14:04:55
Hangul all the way, it will fit perfectly with the colourway.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 05 June 2018, 16:13:57
There's no 1.25u left shift in the coffee kit. Not sure if that's an oversight or not. I see why there's no ISO enter as it's already in the base kit. The loss of the international/norde kit kind of killed this for me, but still interested in the coffee modifiers :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 05 June 2018, 16:17:52
There's no 1.25u left shift in the coffee kit. Not sure if that's an oversight or not. I see why there's no ISO enter as it's already in the base kit. The loss of the international/norde kit kind of killed this for me, but still interested in the coffee modifiers :)

As I stated in the OP, the 1.25u shift will be present, same goes for the iso return and ANSI return key :-)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 05 June 2018, 16:22:09
There's no 1.25u left shift in the coffee kit. Not sure if that's an oversight or not. I see why there's no ISO enter as it's already in the base kit. The loss of the international/norde kit kind of killed this for me, but still interested in the coffee modifiers :)

As I stated in the OP, the 1.25u shift will be present, same goes for the iso return and ANSI return key :-)

Wow, can't believe I missed that, just beneath the photo. Sorry and keep up the good work :))
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: AdrianMan on Wed, 06 June 2018, 04:35:30
Interested in a Coffee kit
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: ramblinrose on Wed, 06 June 2018, 06:56:36
Liking the coffee set!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Owl- on Wed, 06 June 2018, 07:10:58
Personally prefer Kobe, but happy to welcome Hangul if it's the end outcome.

Are the kits final now? Since Ergo is taken out, can the 1u 'Hyper' get added into the core kit and coffee? Everything is great!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 06 June 2018, 09:39:49
The Coffee kit is now fully stand-alone and the Core kit has been updated :)

Core:
(https://i.imgur.com/PGGGSue.png)

Coffee:
(https://i.imgur.com/D7GvFnY.png)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: RSC on Wed, 06 June 2018, 12:41:22
Why the 1u R2 backspace..? It needs to be R1 1u or R2 1.5u...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Hokabuki on Wed, 06 June 2018, 12:51:16
Why the 1u R2 backspace..? It needs to be R1 1u or R2 1.5u...
R2 would be for 40% boards. I agree that R1 would be more widely used though.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 06 June 2018, 13:28:43
If I'm being totally honest, I did as other kits did. GMK asked R1 or R2, I looked at Laser and asked for R2.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: RSC on Wed, 06 June 2018, 15:00:59
I've already tried to explain this to you but it seems it was in vain.

So, once again, Laser offered R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace. Now, when you decide to offer a R2 1.5u delete and no R2 1.5u backspace, you need to offer a R1 1u backspace, otherwise people will be running HHKB layouts, for example, with two delete keys... and that's not good, as you can imagine.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: janglad on Wed, 06 June 2018, 15:27:51
I've already tried to explain this to you but it seems it was in vain.

So, once again, Laser offered R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace. Now, when you decide to offer a R2 1.5u delete and no R2 1.5u backspace, you need to offer a R1 1u backspace, otherwise people will be running HHKB layouts, for example, with two delete keys... and that's not good, as you can imagine.

I agree that there's no use for the R2 1u backspace, but I don't get how this would be ruining HHKB layout boards? How would you use a R2 1u key on a HHKB either way? If you wanted to have both delete and backspace on the board you could already use the 1.5u backspace and use the R1 1u delete that's already in the kit in place of the tilde key no?

Edit: ooh wait the 1.5u R2 is Delete not backspace,
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 06 June 2018, 15:33:49
I've already tried to explain this to you but it seems it was in vain.

So, once again, Laser offered R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace. Now, when you decide to offer a R2 1.5u delete and no R2 1.5u backspace, you need to offer a R1 1u backspace, otherwise people will be running HHKB layouts, for example, with two delete keys... and that's not good, as you can imagine.

I agree that there's no use for the R2 1u backspace, but I don't get how this would be ruining HHKB layout boards? How would you use a R2 1u key on a HHKB either way? If you wanted to have both delete and backspace on the board you could already use the 1.5u backspace and use the R1 1u delete that's already in the kit in place of the tilde key no?

Edit: ooh wait the 1.5u R2 is Delete not backspace,

Yup, this is going to change. Delete → backspace
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: RSC on Wed, 06 June 2018, 15:51:02
I've already tried to explain this to you but it seems it was in vain.

So, once again, Laser offered R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace. Now, when you decide to offer a R2 1.5u delete and no R2 1.5u backspace, you need to offer a R1 1u backspace, otherwise people will be running HHKB layouts, for example, with two delete keys... and that's not good, as you can imagine.

I agree that there's no use for the R2 1u backspace, but I don't get how this would be ruining HHKB layout boards? How would you use a R2 1u key on a HHKB either way? If you wanted to have both delete and backspace on the board you could already use the 1.5u backspace and use the R1 1u delete that's already in the kit in place of the tilde key no?

Edit: ooh wait the 1.5u R2 is Delete not backspace,

Yup, that's the problem.

I've already tried to explain this to you but it seems it was in vain.

So, once again, Laser offered R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace. Now, when you decide to offer a R2 1.5u delete and no R2 1.5u backspace, you need to offer a R1 1u backspace, otherwise people will be running HHKB layouts, for example, with two delete keys... and that's not good, as you can imagine.

I agree that there's no use for the R2 1u backspace, but I don't get how this would be ruining HHKB layout boards? How would you use a R2 1u key on a HHKB either way? If you wanted to have both delete and backspace on the board you could already use the 1.5u backspace and use the R1 1u delete that's already in the kit in place of the tilde key no?

Edit: ooh wait the 1.5u R2 is Delete not backspace,

Yup, this is going to change. Delete → backspace

If you offer R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace, it's perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 06 June 2018, 15:52:31
If you offer R1 1u delete and R2 1.5u backspace, it's perfect.

Then we're Gucci 👌👌
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Topernicus on Wed, 06 June 2018, 22:27:05
Looking good!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: slk on Thu, 07 June 2018, 00:56:06
reminds me of the desert in golden sun
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 07 June 2018, 03:53:44
Update with corrected R2 1.5 legend on the backspace:

Core
(https://i.imgur.com/9Nb9HqI.png)

Coffee
(https://i.imgur.com/9Njg6r8.png)

Because we should all have an OG Mac at home:
(https://i.imgur.com/XdmzxXT.png)
Modern M0110 in beige cerakote by Janglad
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: feedbaack on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:48:44
Damn dat last render is sexy af   :eek: Good luck with the GB buddy !   :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: smurkcity12 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 10:53:20
That render with the coffee mods and the mac have made me go through all my stuff collecting dust in order to sell some of it. Too many good likely GB's coming up and not enough money.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: mdlt97 on Thu, 07 June 2018, 11:00:18
jesus this set is growing on me, i dont need any more cap sets lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: brooklynlou on Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:29:27
Stupid question, Is this thing live so I can throw my money at you or are we still in a holding pattern?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:35:46
Hehe thanks a lot guys! I really appreciate all the kind words! I can't wait to out the set in your hands!

The GB will be soon™ and it will be announced here, I am just waiting on GMK to send me the renders and price of the Hangul kit :-)

<2
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: romevi on Thu, 07 June 2018, 12:52:41
This is a great set! Love the colors!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: forstsiven on Thu, 07 June 2018, 13:25:55
Coffee kit looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Johnee on Thu, 07 June 2018, 14:12:56
The coffee kit is what makes this for me. Really great! But the it really needs a couple of super / code 1.5u r4 mods for “proper” hhkb compat, at least for us mac users. :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 07 June 2018, 15:23:02
Update with corrected R2 1.5 legend on the backspace:

Core
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9Nb9HqI.png)


Coffee
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9Njg6r8.png)


Because we should all have an OG Mac at home:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/XdmzxXT.png)

Modern M0110 in beige cerakote by Janglad

WOW, I love it...  :eek:

KMK labs
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 11 June 2018, 07:59:23
any update?

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 11 June 2018, 09:11:57
any update?

KMK Labs.

I wish, I am still waiting on GMK. They told me they would have the last render, MOQ and price but I assume they are busy with something else. I will post here as soon as I have news, hopefully soon hehe.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 11 June 2018, 09:22:18
any update?

KMK Labs.

I wish, I am still waiting on GMK. They told me they would have the last render, MOQ and price but I assume they are busy with something else. I will post here as soon as I have news, hopefully soon hehe.

 :thumb:

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Ammomruoy on Mon, 11 June 2018, 09:59:34
Can't wait for the coffee kit. Probably will buy 2. If only dvorak and ergo were supported it would sort of be near end game for me.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 13 June 2018, 07:17:24
What's up everybody?!

I finally got word from GMK! The hangul kit still needs a little work as this would not work with Coffee and the spacebar kit as standalones, but that has already been request and it should come soon (hence the lack of price for the moment):
(https://i.imgur.com/TsvbUl0.png)

But there is more!
Mike got the samples in for the deskmat; I'm a little bumped as I asked for the background color to have the same color as the alphas, but the color as kinda grown on me. Here it is:
(https://i.imgur.com/Xbq98Gm.jpg)

As I've always tried to listen to your guys' feedback and as we are closing in on the GB date, I would like to ask you guys to fill in this form: https://goo.gl/forms/kxcM9W7OYmeHe5tx1; that would help a lot!

Thanks a lot
<2
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Wed, 13 June 2018, 07:26:16
What's up everybody?!

I finally got word from GMK! The hangul kit still needs a little work as this would not work with Coffee and the spacebar kit as standalones, but that has already been request and it should come soon (hence the lack of price for the moment):
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TsvbUl0.png)


But there is more!
Mike got the samples in for the deskmat; I'm a little bumped as I asked for the background color to have the same color as the alphas, but the color as kinda grown on me. Here it is:
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Xbq98Gm.jpg)


As I've always tried to listen to your guys' feedback and as we are closing in on the GB date, I would like to ask you guys to fill in this form: https://goo.gl/forms/kxcM9W7OYmeHe5tx1; that would help a lot!

Thanks a lot
<2

in my opinion the deskmat is better in sand color, however the design is gorgeous   :eek:

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: RSC on Wed, 13 June 2018, 13:48:09
Hangul looks amazing with this colourway.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 13 June 2018, 15:41:26
Still like Kobe better, especially as it's standalone (and of course it's of use to me).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 13 June 2018, 15:43:41
Still like Kobe better, especially as it's standalone (and of course it's of use to me).

The Hangul kit would be standalone too :)

I like japanese better, but I would have liked to have it as a sublegend hehe
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: chuckdee on Wed, 13 June 2018, 20:03:47
Still like Kobe better, especially as it's standalone (and of course it's of use to me).

The Hangul kit would be standalone too :)

I like japanese better, but I would have liked to have it as a sublegend hehe

But I don't know Korean is my reason for wanting Kobe.  :-[  But whatever is decided!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 14 June 2018, 02:35:53
The feedback I've been getting is super nice; that said, some people (more than I expected haha) are still on the fence, I would like to know what might make you guys decide in favor of Oasis.

Regarding the deskmat, I wanted to let you know that I requested a new sample with sand color :)

As for Kobe vs. Hangul, Kobe is winning by a slight margin (55.4% against 44.6% for the Hangul kit). It's still a fairly close fight, so keep voting!

The form will be open up until Monday, so make sure to get your feedback rolling!

Form : https://goo.gl/forms/qfv0e0rzYlYpRlmF2


Thanks a lot for your support and for voicing your opinions <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 14 June 2018, 04:46:47
So I've been told that it is hangul only for the alphas... I would have loved the kobe more  :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:09:40
So I've been told that it is hangul only for the alphas... I would have loved the kobe more  :(

For the moment Kobe is winning (57% to 43% for Hangul), so for the moment it would be kobe; but nothing is set, I'd like a maximum of person to vote which is why I'll leave the form up until Monday. zFrontier is also posting the same form for China and I should get the results back on Monday as well. I will then make a decision :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 14 June 2018, 05:38:24
So I've been told that it is hangul only for the alphas... I would have loved the kobe more  :(

For the moment Kobe is winning (57% to 43% for Hangul), so for the moment it would be kobe; but nothing is set, I'd like a maximum of person to vote which is why I'll leave the form up until Monday. zFrontier is also posting the same form for China and I should get the results back on Monday as well. I will then make a decision :)

Ok, great news. There must have been a miscommunication with one of the involved parties.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 16 June 2018, 11:58:58
Updates

The form is still open and will be until Monday: https://goo.gl/forms/8HB32GsWifPttjRw1

As of right now, the sand background wins over the the white one for the deskmat, but I that's not a surprise hehe.

The vote between the Kobe and the Hangul kits  is actually way closer than I imagined.

(https://i.imgur.com/CiI3gL6.jpg)


zFrontier has posted the same form on their forum and I am waiting on their results to take a decision.


GB

I am aiming at a June 25th launch date, but stay tuned for an official launch date as I still need confirmation from the US and Asian proxy!



Thank you guys for your support and have a good one!

<3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: jongmin84 on Sat, 16 June 2018, 16:45:43
What about Canadians????????
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 16 June 2018, 16:49:43
What about Canadians????????

Isn't Canada a state in the US? Just kidding <3 Novelkeys will take care of you guys, seems like I forgot to update the OP with that info, my bad ^^'
Title: GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 18 June 2018, 15:16:33
Form closed - Updates

Results are in, thanks a lot for voting!

So, for the main fight "Kobe vs. Hangul", the winner is Kobe. It wasn't that clear at first, but bit by bit a gap appeared. I would have loved to run both but that is unfortunately not possible. I hope that those of you that voted for the Hangul kit will still join :)

As for the deskmat, it's no surprise but the sand colored background won; a sample has already been ordered and I will keep you guys update!


GB

Mark your calendars! June 25th it is! That's exactly one week from now :) The GB will be opened for approximately one month to give time to everyone to join.


Prices

I am still waiting on the prices for zFrontier, but here are the prices for the US and EU vendors!

VendorsBase kit (MOQ 250)Kobe (MOQ 150)Spacebar kitCoffeeSleeves (different sizes)Cables (different sizes)
MyKeyboard (EU)
136€
55€
35€
110€
26€
16€
Novelkeys (USA)
$146
$70
$35
$105
TBD
TBD
zFrontier (Asia)
CNY998 ($168)
CNY450 ($73)
CNY226 ($37)
TBD
CNY198 ($32)
CNY157 ($25.5)


You know what guys? The set looks dope on the S7-Elephant! Go check the board!

(https://i.imgur.com/Y4tmsfz.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 18 June 2018, 18:54:43
Does Coffee have a MOQ?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 19 June 2018, 00:06:38
Does Coffee have a MOQ?

Unfortunately yes, it's around 150 if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: AdrianMan on Tue, 19 June 2018, 09:37:46
The price for the Coffe kit is embarrassing.

Made me loose my interest as I was expecting a 70-80 usd price.

In EU, adding shipping, I'm reaching a full GMK set price :/
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: ptiede on Tue, 19 June 2018, 10:06:30
The price for the Coffe kit is embarrassing.

Made me loose my interest as I was expecting a 70-80 usd price.

In EU, adding shipping, I'm reaching a full GMK set price :/
The pricing sucks for sure but I doubt the group buy runner had much say in this. These prices are mostly set by gmk. I don't really get when people blame people who host the group buys for the prices, since they have such little say.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 19 June 2018, 10:21:07
The price for the Coffe kit is embarrassing.

Made me loose my interest as I was expecting a 70-80 usd price.

In EU, adding shipping, I'm reaching a full GMK set price :/

The price for the Coffe kit is embarrassing.

Made me loose my interest as I was expecting a 70-80 usd price.

In EU, adding shipping, I'm reaching a full GMK set price :/
The pricing sucks for sure but I doubt the group buy runner had much say in this. These prices are mostly set by gmk. I don't really get when people blame people who host the group buys for the prices, since they have such little say.

Thank you for this. I did indeed not have much to say about that. I would have LOVED to make a 70-80$ kit, but that's way under what GMK is selling those to the vendors, you'd also need to factor in the vendors' expenses, shipping fees to them and VAT and that's unfortunately the price you get :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 19 June 2018, 11:40:52
Yeah... to get everything I want is about $391.  That's a bit all in- so I guess I'll have to retreat from that.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 19 June 2018, 12:10:25
Yeah... to get everything I want is about $391.  That's a bit all in- so I guess I'll have to retreat from that.

Sad to see you go. That said, what would cost you $391? As every kit together is $356 (which is still a lot of money), but what did you plan on buying before droping?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 19 June 2018, 12:48:08
yes the price of the coffe kit has increased compared to the previous estimates (80 $), probably this coincides with the removal of the ergo kit.

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 19 June 2018, 13:14:56
*rant inc.*

It has nothing to do with the removal of the ergo kit and everything to do with the addition of keys.

This was the first render I got from GMK:

(https://i.imgur.com/3007DmO.png)

And this was estimated at around 70-80$. I have nothings against going back to this one but I have to admit I hate people complaining about a rising price on something when I've done nothing but listen to feedback. everyone wanted more keys added, everyone (well, not everyone, but still) hated the blue modifiers, everyone wanted the Coffee modifier set to be "standalone" so they could use this in addition to some more alphas and get the set they wanted; unfortunately I didn't make the price. As a matter of fact, and being totally transparent since the price seems to be an issue; I am earning around 2€ per coffee modifier kit sold; you want me to get a lower price? I don't have anything against that, I'll chop 2 euros off the price, but I doubt that would change anything, would it?!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 19 June 2018, 13:37:31
People will later sing songs about how stupid I am, but I actually can't read an Excel spreadsheet. The price I received from the EU vendor for the Coffee kit is actually 95€ and not 110 as listed now. (US price is still correct tho).

Here is an updated table:
VendorsBase kit (MOQ 250)Kobe (MOQ 150)Spacebar kitCoffeeSleeves (different sizes)Cables (different sizes)
MyKeyboard (EU)
136€
55€
35€
95€
26€
16€
Novelkeys (USA)
$146
$70
$35
$105
TBD
TBD
zFrontier (Asia)
¥998 ($166)
¥448 ($72)
¥226 ($37)
¥672 ($109)
¥198 ($32)
¥157 ($25.5)

Prices for zFrontier are a little higher because those include shipping fees.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 19 June 2018, 14:47:24
People will later sing songs about how stupid I am, but I actually can't read an Excel spreadsheet. The price I received from the EU vendor for the Coffee kit is actually 95€ and not 110 as listed now. (US price is still correct tho).

Here is an updated table:
VendorsBase kit (MOQ 250)Kobe (MOQ 150)Spacebar kitCoffeeSleeves (different sizes)Cables (different sizes)
MyKeyboard (EU)
136€
55€
35€
95€
26€
16€
Novelkeys (USA)
$146
$70
$35
$105
TBD
TBD
zFrontier (Asia)
¥998 ($166)
¥448 ($72)
¥226 ($37)
¥672 ($109)
¥198 ($32)
¥157 ($25.5)

Prices for zFrontier are a little higher because those include shipping fees.

no problem, as I said several times, I will take the gmk oasis, including kit coffe, because I like everything about this set, and I am a great supporter, my answer did not want to be controversy, I was just looking for a logical explanation. Good luck for the gb.
I cant wait.  :thumb:
 
KMK Labs
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 19 June 2018, 14:50:19
People will later sing songs about how stupid I am, but I actually can't read an Excel spreadsheet. The price I received from the EU vendor for the Coffee kit is actually 95€ and not 110 as listed now. (US price is still correct tho).

Here is an updated table:
VendorsBase kit (MOQ 250)Kobe (MOQ 150)Spacebar kitCoffeeSleeves (different sizes)Cables (different sizes)
MyKeyboard (EU)
136€
55€
35€
95€
26€
16€
Novelkeys (USA)
$146
$70
$35
$105
TBD
TBD
zFrontier (Asia)
¥998 ($166)
¥448 ($72)
¥226 ($37)
¥672 ($109)
¥198 ($32)
¥157 ($25.5)

Prices for zFrontier are a little higher because those include shipping fees.

no problem, as I said several times, I will take the gmk oasis, including kit coffe, because I like everything about this set, and I am a great supporter, my answer did not want to be controversy, I was just looking for a logical explanation. Good luck for the gb.
I cant wait.  :thumb:
 
KMK Labs

Oh yeah no for sure, my answer wasn't meant for you specially, it was more of a general answered based off of your comment. That said, I guess those comments have been useful as that forced me to check the prices hehe :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Tue, 19 June 2018, 14:59:38
yeah, everything went fine.

GREAT!

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 19 June 2018, 15:55:40
Yeah... to get everything I want is about $391.  That's a bit all in- so I guess I'll have to retreat from that.

Sad to see you go. That said, what would cost you $391? As every kit together is $356 (which is still a lot of money), but what did you plan on buying before droping?

Oh, I'm not leaving.  Just not getting all the kits.  I was going to get Base (146) +Coffee (105) +Kobe (70) +Spacebarsx2 (70) = 391.  I'm either now going to get Kobe + Coffee or Base.  And maybe spacebars if I can swing it- depends on which way I go.  Still a lot.  But not $400 a lot.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 19 June 2018, 15:58:49
Yeah... to get everything I want is about $391.  That's a bit all in- so I guess I'll have to retreat from that.

Sad to see you go. That said, what would cost you $391? As every kit together is $356 (which is still a lot of money), but what did you plan on buying before droping?

Oh, I'm not leaving.  Just not getting all the kits.  I was going to get Base (146) +Coffee (105) +Kobe (70) +Spacebarsx2 (70) = 391.  I'm either now going to get Kobe + Coffee or Base.  And maybe spacebars if I can swing it- depends on which way I go.  Still a lot.  But not $400 a lot.

Glad to count you in again <3

I really wish I could offer lower prices, really. This is the thing that made me want to run it as a DSA kit as I could have made like a billion different kits with virtually no MOQ in comparison to GMK, but GMK is life haha
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: AdrianMan on Wed, 20 June 2018, 06:37:55
The price for the Coffe kit is embarrassing.

Made me loose my interest as I was expecting a 70-80 usd price.

In EU, adding shipping, I'm reaching a full GMK set price :/

The price for the Coffe kit is embarrassing.

Made me loose my interest as I was expecting a 70-80 usd price.

In EU, adding shipping, I'm reaching a full GMK set price :/
The pricing sucks for sure but I doubt the group buy runner had much say in this. These prices are mostly set by gmk. I don't really get when people blame people who host the group buys for the prices, since they have such little say.

Thank you for this. I did indeed not have much to say about that. I would have LOVED to make a 70-80$ kit, but that's way under what GMK is selling those to the vendors, you'd also need to factor in the vendors' expenses, shipping fees to them and VAT and that's unfortunately the price you get :(

I understand all that :) And I'm not blaming you, especially for great effort like running this GB. I was just sad when I saw the price :)
Title: GB GMK Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 25 June 2018, 07:49:06
And we are up!

Here are the final prices:

VendorsBase kit (MOQ 250)Kobe (MOQ 150)Spacebar kit
Coffee
Sleeves (different sizes)Cables (different sizes)
MyKeyboard (EU)
129€
54€
34.99€
95€
25€+
16€+
Novelkeys (USA)
$146
$70
$35
$105
TBD
TBD
zFrontier (Asia)
¥998 ($166)
¥448 ($72)
¥226 ($37)
¥672 ($109)
¥198 ($32)
¥157 ($25.5)

And most importantly, here are the links:


Also, don't forget that every order gets two entries for the Artisan raffles (1 for Artkey's, 1 for Briz's). Winners will be announced when we close the GB!

Thanks a lot for your support!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: brooklynlou on Mon, 25 June 2018, 12:05:08
Congrats on making this happen - you got my cash, looking forward to the set ...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 25 June 2018, 12:06:07
Congrats on making this happen - you got my cash, looking forward to the set ...

Thanks à lot; that means the world to me! <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 25 June 2018, 15:33:41
We are pleased to confirm your order 11**** has been received and will be processed shortly.

Your order contains:

X keycap by Rama - quantity: 1
O keycap by Rama - quantity: 1
GMK Oasis Core kit - quantity: 1
GMK Cofee kit - quantity: 1

here we are ready!!!

KMK Labs
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 25 June 2018, 15:48:33
We are pleased to confirm your order 11**** has been received and will be processed shortly.

Your order contains:

X keycap by Rama - quantity: 1
O keycap by Rama - quantity: 1
GMK Oasis Core kit - quantity: 1
GMK Cofee kit - quantity: 1

here we are ready!!!

KMK Labs

Thanks for the support!! Really appreciate it!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: megaforce on Mon, 25 June 2018, 16:03:52
god bless.

this is gonna be a good set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 25 June 2018, 18:00:03
For some reason I can’t see the pictures anymore. Anybody having same problem?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Photoelectric on Mon, 25 June 2018, 18:18:49
Group buy thread is open in the Group Buys and Preorders section.  Please proceed there for continued discussion.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96328.0
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 05 July 2018, 13:16:58
So, for all of you guys that were following my thread here and not the GB post, here is what I posted there earlier today:

Hello Everyone!

I have a sad update for you but I want to be completely transparent, so here it is: I am closing the GMK Oasis GB.

I discussed this with the vendor and I need to be realistic, we are not going to hit MOQ. Here are some numbers:
EU has sold a whopping 4 core kits, all in the first 24h of the sale going live, none have been ordered since then;
We sold a total of 31 Core kit in about 10 days, I don't see the keyset selling another 219 core kits in the remaining 3 weeks of the GB; and
We have sold more Rama keycaps than Core, Coffee and Kobe put together.

I guess I haven't done a good enough job promoting the keyset, but when I compare this to the DSA Milkshake GB that just launched and sold 200+ kits in the first day in the states alone, I can compete. I'd rather stop it here than see the vendors lose more money if I wait.

This is not to say that I am dropping the idea and abandoning it; far from that. I am still committed to the colorway and want it to happen, I guess now is just not the time, and I guess GMK is just not the profile. zFrontier reached out to me asking me if I had any interest in running the keyset in their new KAT profile, which I've been really interested in since they announced it. I am thus looking into that and other potential profiles (I already checked with zFrontier for DSA); I asked for the IC thread to be unlocked in order to post some more there and I will post this update there as well.

Last but not least, since we hit MOQ on the Rama X/O keycaps, I asked the vendors to contact the clients and see if they wanted to keep their artisan purchase. As for the other artisans (Briz and Artkey) I will wait for the product to relaunch before raffling them (the raijis are already casted, so you can be sure I will come back with the keyset!

Thanks to those of you would placed an order and sorry for the disappointment.

Jonathan
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Overchecken8 on Thu, 05 July 2018, 13:21:36
So, for all of you guys that were following my thread here and not the GB post, here is what I posted there earlier today:

Hello Everyone!

I have a sad update for you but I want to be completely transparent, so here it is: I am closing the GMK Oasis GB.

I discussed this with the vendor and I need to be realistic, we are not going to hit MOQ. Here are some numbers:
EU has sold a whopping 4 core kits, all in the first 24h of the sale going live, none have been ordered since then;
We sold a total of 31 Core kit in about 10 days, I don't see the keyset selling another 219 core kits in the remaining 3 weeks of the GB; and
We have sold more Rama keycaps than Core, Coffee and Kobe put together.

I guess I haven't done a good enough job promoting the keyset, but when I compare this to the DSA Milkshake GB that just launched and sold 200+ kits in the first day in the states alone, I can compete. I'd rather stop it here than see the vendors lose more money if I wait.

This is not to say that I am dropping the idea and abandoning it; far from that. I am still committed to the colorway and want it to happen, I guess now is just not the time, and I guess GMK is just not the profile. zFrontier reached out to me asking me if I had any interest in running the keyset in their new KAT profile, which I've been really interested in since they announced it. I am thus looking into that and other potential profiles (I already checked with zFrontier for DSA); I asked for the IC thread to be unlocked in order to post some more there and I will post this update there as well.

Last but not least, since we hit MOQ on the Rama X/O keycaps, I asked the vendors to contact the clients and see if they wanted to keep their artisan purchase. As for the other artisans (Briz and Artkey) I will wait for the product to relaunch before raffling them (the raijis are already casted, so you can be sure I will come back with the keyset!

Thanks to those of you would placed an order and sorry for the disappointment.

Jonathan
Ah that’s sad to hear but thanks for the update. Love the set and especially love that blue with the alphas.

I’m curious what this KAT profile is though? Do you have any information on it?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 05 July 2018, 15:41:50

I’m curious what this KAT profile is though? Do you have any information on it?
Everything I have is what zFrontier sent me:

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/7624
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/7625


I am waiting to get my hands on a sample so I can share more information :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 05 July 2018, 15:43:46
So, for all of you guys that were following my thread here and not the GB post, here is what I posted there earlier today:

Hello Everyone!

I have a sad update for you but I want to be completely transparent, so here it is: I am closing the GMK Oasis GB.

I discussed this with the vendor and I need to be realistic, we are not going to hit MOQ. Here are some numbers:
EU has sold a whopping 4 core kits, all in the first 24h of the sale going live, none have been ordered since then;
We sold a total of 31 Core kit in about 10 days, I don't see the keyset selling another 219 core kits in the remaining 3 weeks of the GB; and
We have sold more Rama keycaps than Core, Coffee and Kobe put together.

I guess I haven't done a good enough job promoting the keyset, but when I compare this to the DSA Milkshake GB that just launched and sold 200+ kits in the first day in the states alone, I can compete. I'd rather stop it here than see the vendors lose more money if I wait.

This is not to say that I am dropping the idea and abandoning it; far from that. I am still committed to the colorway and want it to happen, I guess now is just not the time, and I guess GMK is just not the profile. zFrontier reached out to me asking me if I had any interest in running the keyset in their new KAT profile, which I've been really interested in since they announced it. I am thus looking into that and other potential profiles (I already checked with zFrontier for DSA); I asked for the IC thread to be unlocked in order to post some more there and I will post this update there as well.

Last but not least, since we hit MOQ on the Rama X/O keycaps, I asked the vendors to contact the clients and see if they wanted to keep their artisan purchase. As for the other artisans (Briz and Artkey) I will wait for the product to relaunch before raffling them (the raijis are already casted, so you can be sure I will come back with the keyset!

Thanks to those of you would placed an order and sorry for the disappointment.

Jonathan

when you say "I guess now is just not the time" do you mean that you will take a break from the project?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 05 July 2018, 15:57:59
when you say "I guess now is just not the time" do you mean that you will take a break from the project?

Ah no, I meant it as a "Now is not the time to run a 'non-hype' set (read not Carbon) as GMK" as there are too many of those :) I will not stop this project, although I do have to wait on zFrontier to either get back to me regarding the DSA kits, prices, etc. or get more information on the KAT profile (they offered to run Oasis on that profile but I do not think they are 100% ready to launch it just yet) so it is a little bit out of my hands for the time being. But I will definitely not stop this project :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 05 July 2018, 16:15:40
when you say "I guess now is just not the time" do you mean that you will take a break from the project?

Ah no, I meant it as a "Now is not the time to run a 'non-hype' set (read not Carbon) as GMK" as there are too many of those :) I will not stop this project, although I do have to wait on zFrontier to either get back to me regarding the DSA kits, prices, etc. or get more information on the KAT profile (they offered to run Oasis on that profile but I do not think they are 100% ready to launch it just yet) so it is a little bit out of my hands for the time being. But I will definitely not stop this project :)

I'm really happy, I think a different profile paradoxically could also involve more interested, at this time given the large number of set gmk in ic and gb. HYPE!!!

the gb of the artisan XO will continue? I'm sad that I cant combine with the Oasis but given the rarity it would be nice to finalize the MOQ.

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 05 July 2018, 16:18:30
when you say "I guess now is just not the time" do you mean that you will take a break from the project?

Ah no, I meant it as a "Now is not the time to run a 'non-hype' set (read not Carbon) as GMK" as there are too many of those :) I will not stop this project, although I do have to wait on zFrontier to either get back to me regarding the DSA kits, prices, etc. or get more information on the KAT profile (they offered to run Oasis on that profile but I do not think they are 100% ready to launch it just yet) so it is a little bit out of my hands for the time being. But I will definitely not stop this project :)

I'm really happy, I think a different profile paradoxically could also involve more interested, at this time given the large number of set gmk in ic and gb. HYPE!!!

the gb of the artisan XO will continue? I'm sad that I cant combine with the Oasis but given the rarity it would be nice to finalize the MOQ.

KMK Labs.

I don't think the GB will continue for this. As I said, I asked the vendor to contact everyone who bought the RAMA keys to see if they wanted to keep that part of their order as we hit MOQ on that, and I will probably reopen the GB for those once I reopen the GB for Oasis.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Thu, 05 July 2018, 16:25:47
when you say "I guess now is just not the time" do you mean that you will take a break from the project?

Ah no, I meant it as a "Now is not the time to run a 'non-hype' set (read not Carbon) as GMK" as there are too many of those :) I will not stop this project, although I do have to wait on zFrontier to either get back to me regarding the DSA kits, prices, etc. or get more information on the KAT profile (they offered to run Oasis on that profile but I do not think they are 100% ready to launch it just yet) so it is a little bit out of my hands for the time being. But I will definitely not stop this project :)

I'm really happy, I think a different profile paradoxically could also involve more interested, at this time given the large number of set gmk in ic and gb. HYPE!!!

the gb of the artisan XO will continue? I'm sad that I cant combine with the Oasis but given the rarity it would be nice to finalize the MOQ.

KMK Labs.

I don't think the GB will continue for this. As I said, I asked the vendor to contact everyone who bought the RAMA keys to see if they wanted to keep that part of their order as we hit MOQ on that, and I will probably reopen the GB for those once I reopen the GB for Oasis.

ah ok so is it as if they were waiting until you restart the gb?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 06 July 2018, 03:52:39
This is not a review  yet, of course, but Top Clack posted a typing test for the KAT profile and it sounds really nice imho.

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 06 July 2018, 07:16:42
This is not a review  yet, of course, but Top Clack posted a typing test for the KAT profile and it sounds really nice imho.


Do we really need another profile? Cherry is really nice and ubiquitous. OEM is quite nice too. Then we have a plethora of similar to those, but yet incompatible profiles. We have taihao cubic (unsuccesful), dcs, leopold profile, then we have the various chinese abominations, then we have devlin, and now this kit kat profile...
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Giorgio on Fri, 06 July 2018, 07:17:44
Sorry for this gb. It was nice. Lately there are an enormous number of gb.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: OracleKev on Fri, 06 July 2018, 07:47:43
This is not a review  yet, of course, but Top Clack posted a typing test for the KAT profile and it sounds really nice imho.


Been looking for typing sounds for the KAT profile :)
This is not bad, not bad at all.  This might be good balance between large cap look and controlled sound.
IMO, SA has the looks, but it doesn't sound good on linear, especially the space bar.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 06 July 2018, 08:03:43
Do we really need another profile? Cherry is really nice and ubiquitous. OEM is quite nice too. Then we have a plethora of similar to those, but yet incompatible profiles. We have taihao cubic (unsuccesful), dcs, leopold profile, then we have the various chinese abominations, then we have devlin, and now this kit kat profile...

We don't need another profile, but is is not a bad thing either, it brings diversity and options, I don't see that as a bad thing.

Sorry for this gb. It was nice. Lately there are an enormous number of gb.
It's ok, this is merely a set back, I'll keep working on this :)

Been looking for typing sounds for the KAT profile :)
This is not bad, not bad at all.  This might be good balance between large cap look and controlled sound.
IMO, SA has the looks, but it doesn't sound good on linear, especially the space bar.

This is exactly what I had in mind when I saw the profile and the sound test comforted that thought. I have myself never typed on SA but I've heard people say (a lot of people) that SA is a beauty but is not that great to type on, so this could be nice for sure! :)

Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: forevermadrigal on Sun, 08 July 2018, 03:27:00
Sad this didn't make it, but happy because broke and couldn't afford the set but now there's a chance :p
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 08 July 2018, 03:28:29
Sad this didn't make it, but happy because broke and couldn't afford the set but now there's a chance :p

I feel like this is the case for many people, me included. The change in profile and the expected lower price and MOQ will really help this out, I hope :-)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Sun, 08 July 2018, 04:53:35
Sad this didn't make it, but happy because broke and couldn't afford the set but now there's a chance :p

I feel like this is the case for many people, me included. The change in profile and the expected lower price and MOQ will really help this out, I hope :-)

you do not give up. these remain my favorite set of 2018.  :cool:

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 18 July 2018, 13:05:54
Such a shame to see this cancelled, I was going to pick it up later in the month. I feel like it was just an overcrowded time period. I believe if you ran this again in Sept or Oct. It would be a good time to try GMK again. Right now there is just so many GMKs going on.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: forevermadrigal on Wed, 18 July 2018, 15:46:00
Welp, not broke, ready to throw my money at this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 21 July 2018, 03:14:36
Welp, not broke, ready to throw my money at this

Thanks a lot for the support!

Sorry for the lack of activity here guys; I'm a little sick right now and I'm working on GMK Monochrome right now, as soon as this is done I'm coming back to this project (Plus I assume that zFrontier is waiting on the KAT GB to finish before pushing new keysets).
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: cakofony on Wed, 01 August 2018, 20:30:49
This is wonderful, I would purchase it.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Sat, 11 August 2018, 13:13:13
Any news?

I know you're collaborating on gmk mono, but I'm curious

Also regarding the RAMA X/O caps, since I noticed their GB is still active, has the MOQ been reached?

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 11 August 2018, 13:49:23
Any news?

I know you're collaborating on gmk mono, but I'm curious

Also regarding the RAMA X/O caps, since I noticed their GB is still active, has the MOQ been reached?

KMK Labs.

I wish I had some news for you, unfortunately I keep pushing for info but zFrontier stays pretty vague right now. I assume they are still waiting for the KAT GB to be done (like, all the orders shipped, etc) and to see what colors they can get and how close they can get to my colors, before updating me - at least I hope haha

Sorry for the lack of update but there is simply nothing I can provide for the moment :(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Sat, 11 August 2018, 14:13:52
Any news?

I know you're collaborating on gmk mono, but I'm curious

Also regarding the RAMA X/O caps, since I noticed their GB is still active, has the MOQ been reached?

KMK Labs.

I wish I had some news for you, unfortunately I keep pushing for info but zFrontier stays pretty vague right now. I assume they are still waiting for the KAT GB to be done (like, all the orders shipped, etc) and to see what colors they can get and how close they can get to my colors, before updating me - at least I hope haha

Sorry for the lack of update but there is simply nothing I can provide for the moment :(

No problems,

we wait and see. I always stay in hype for this colorway  :thumb:

instead for the caps of rama you know something? Just to get an idea if I have to wait for a refund or not.

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 11 August 2018, 14:31:34

instead for the caps of rama you know something? Just to get an idea if I have to wait for a refund or not.

KMK Labs.

Which vendor did you go through? Because I asked every vendor to see with the buyers if they wanted to keep their RAMA order and as far as I know, the order has been placed as we hit MOQ on those. Did you not get contacted?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Oasis (Kits update)
Post by: Kerasan on Sat, 11 August 2018, 14:44:36

instead for the caps of rama you know something? Just to get an idea if I have to wait for a refund or not.

KMK Labs.

Which vendor did you go through? Because I asked every vendor to see with the buyers if they wanted to keep their RAMA order and as far as I know, the order has been placed as we hit MOQ on those. Did you not get contacted?

Yes, David contacted me, in fact I confirmed the order but I saw that the GB was still active (so it seems on mykeyboard, maybe the web page was not updated) and I did not know if it was successful

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 15 August 2018, 13:17:36
It would be KAT PBT Dye Sub right?

If so I am in
Title: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 17 August 2018, 03:55:21
Hello Everyone!

Here is the first update since switching to KAT, I finally heard back from zFrontier, here is what I gathered:

The coffee modifiers (and normal modifiers for that matter) might prove to be tricky to make, as I got told the dye-subbing might be affected by the blank keycaps. If a large enough amount of keysets are ordered, this could be solved by using plastic injected blanks which might solve the problem. Black legends would work better, so that is still a solution. That said zFrontier is waiting to place the order for Milkshake and the KAT Alphas before placing an order for Oasis samples, but it is happening, so we'll know more once those are in.

MOQ should be around 100-150, a lottle (like a little, except a lot) less than GMK, which makes this way more realistic.

As for the pricing (please, take this with a grain of salt as those are estimates) a kit of 120 keys would set you back around $100

I was "afraid" proxies might be a no-go as Keyreative are an exclusive partner to zFrontier, but zFrontier themselves told me they did not mind using proxies, so that should make it easier for you guys to order :)

There should be a 3-4 months lead time which, according to Alex from zFrontier, is a safe estimation.


I am focusing on Monochrome right now but I wanted to keep you guys updated and let you know I'm doing all I can to make this happen.

Best,

Jonathan
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 17 August 2018, 04:45:51
Hello Everyone!

Here is the first update since switching to KAT, I finally heard back from zFrontier, here is what I gathered:

  • Legends
The coffee modifiers (and normal modifiers for that matter) might prove to be tricky to make, as I got told the dye-subbing might be affected by the blank keycaps. If a large enough amount of keysets are ordered, this could be solved by using plastic injected blanks which might solve the problem. Black legends would work better, so that is still a solution. That said zFrontier is waiting to place the order for Milkshake and the KAT Alphas before placing an order for Oasis samples, but it is happening, so we'll know more once those are in.

  • MOQ
MOQ should be around 100-150, a lottle (like a little, except a lot) less than GMK, which makes this way more realistic.

  • Pricing
As for the pricing (please, take this with a grain of salt as those are estimates) a kit of 120 keys would set you back around $100

  • Proxies?
I was "afraid" proxies might be a no-go as Keyreative are an exclusive partner to zFrontier, but zFrontier themselves told me they did not mind using proxies, so that should make it easier for you guys to order :)

  • Lead time
There should be a 3-4 months lead time which, according to Alex from zFrontier, is a safe estimation.


I am focusing on Monochrome right now but I wanted to keep you guys updated and let you know I'm doing all I can to make this happen.

Best,

Jonathan
:thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Kerasan on Fri, 17 August 2018, 05:08:15
Hello Everyone!

Here is the first update since switching to KAT, I finally heard back from zFrontier, here is what I gathered:

  • Legends
The coffee modifiers (and normal modifiers for that matter) might prove to be tricky to make, as I got told the dye-subbing might be affected by the blank keycaps. If a large enough amount of keysets are ordered, this could be solved by using plastic injected blanks which might solve the problem. Black legends would work better, so that is still a solution. That said zFrontier is waiting to place the order for Milkshake and the KAT Alphas before placing an order for Oasis samples, but it is happening, so we'll know more once those are in.

  • MOQ
MOQ should be around 100-150, a lottle (like a little, except a lot) less than GMK, which makes this way more realistic.

  • Pricing
As for the pricing (please, take this with a grain of salt as those are estimates) a kit of 120 keys would set you back around $100

  • Proxies?
I was "afraid" proxies might be a no-go as Keyreative are an exclusive partner to zFrontier, but zFrontier themselves told me they did not mind using proxies, so that should make it easier for you guys to order :)

  • Lead time
There should be a 3-4 months lead time which, according to Alex from zFrontier, is a safe estimation.


I am focusing on Monochrome right now but I wanted to keep you guys updated and let you know I'm doing all I can to make this happen.

Best,

Jonathan
:thumb:

I cant wait  :eek:

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 17 August 2018, 06:11:44
Is there any chance for ISO and NorDeUk support in KAT profile?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 17 August 2018, 06:20:06
Is there any chance for ISO and NorDeUk support in KAT profile?
++++++++++++++10000000000000
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 17 August 2018, 06:22:21
Is there any chance for ISO and NorDeUk support in KAT profile?

ISO, that's a given! I already told them I wanted ISO support. As for NorDeUK, I do not know yet, I have to check with them :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 17 August 2018, 06:24:23
Is there any chance for ISO and NorDeUk support in KAT profile?

ISO, that's a given! I already told them I wanted ISO support. As for NorDeUK, I do not know yet, I have to check with them :)
Amazing! This set will be a must buy :D
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: DasGnome on Fri, 17 August 2018, 08:42:41
Actually more excited to see this in KAT than GMK. Please no black legends though. The brown legends are what really give this set the earthy, beachy vibe.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 17 August 2018, 08:49:19
Actually more excited to see this in KAT than GMK. Please no black legends though. The brown legends are what really give this set the earthy, beachy vibe.

I do agree with you and I will push for brown legends for sure! :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 17 August 2018, 08:56:54
Is KAT all PBT?  Or do they have ABS Doubleshot?  Just wondering with the colours- I don't want to lose the vibrancy of the combination!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 17 August 2018, 09:02:36
As far as I know it's all PBT, but never hurts to ask :D
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 17 August 2018, 09:26:20
As far as I know it's all PBT, but never hurts to ask :D
NO ABS please
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: sythie on Fri, 17 August 2018, 09:50:50
Is there any chance for ISO and NorDeUk support in KAT profile?

ISO, that's a given! I already told them I wanted ISO support. As for NorDeUK, I do not know yet, I have to check with them :)
Thanks for the updates.

I do hope for NorDeUK support. That's the only reason I didn't join the KAT Alpha GB.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 17 August 2018, 10:22:02
As far as I know it's all PBT, but never hurts to ask :D
NO ABS please

PBT has duller colors- that's what I meant about losing the vibrancy.  You could end up with something that doesn't match the vision.  See SA Godspeed vs XDA Godspeed.  It's very noticeable.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 17 August 2018, 11:40:56
As far as I know it's all PBT, but never hurts to ask :D
NO ABS please

PBT has duller colors- that's what I meant about losing the vibrancy.  You could end up with something that doesn't match the vision.  See SA Godspeed vs XDA Godspeed.  It's very noticeable.
I can see where you are coming from but I just don't like the glossy shine on abs caps that appears over time.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 17 August 2018, 12:02:46
I get what you mean- but the colors are one of the major appeals of this set.

(https://i.imgur.com/myBsOm3.jpg)

That's Godspeed XDA vs SA.  I even had an artisan to match... and it just doesn't match the colors on the XDA.  So the set doesn't match what I had in my mind, making me a little bit disappointed with the set, if not the XDA profile.  Even though after use you can see signs of shine on that SA Godspeed, it still looks better, IMO.  The XDA just looks like a washed out watercolor version of someone's depiction of the SA, IMO.

NOTE: Look at the mods for comparison.  I purchased Supernova on XDA, so the alphas are going to be quite a bit different.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 17 August 2018, 12:19:29
I get what you mean- but the colors are one of the major appeals of this set.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/myBsOm3.jpg)


That's Godspeed XDA vs SA.  I even had an artisan to match... and it just doesn't match the colors on the XDA.  So the set doesn't match what I had in my mind, making me a little bit disappointed with the set, if not the XDA profile.  Even though after use you can see signs of shine on that SA Godspeed, it still looks better, IMO.  The XDA just looks like a washed out watercolor version of someone's depiction of the SA, IMO.

NOTE: Look at the mods for comparison.  I purchased Supernova on XDA, so the alphas are going to be quite a bit different.
It’s just that I feel like I’m „damaging“ the abs keycaps with every keypress.
As far as the colours go, I think we can expect a good result. I know that it’s not the same manufacturer but look at dsa drifter for example: the colours turned out great in my opinion.
But I fully understand your argumentation.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 17 August 2018, 12:49:47
This might be a moot point in any case if they don't have any other options than PBT.  I'm just saying I'm joining for the colors.  And that's a big problem on many keysets - the color matching.  And PBT is always a bit washed out.  Those colors on drifter look fine.  But they aren't exactly vibrant, but more muted.  It's that way with every PBT set that I've seen and is indeed what designers state as a disadvantage of PBT.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 17 August 2018, 15:23:44

 I know that it’s not the same manufacturer but look at dsa drifter

I agree with everyone wanting the most accurate colors, trust me this is also what I want. That said, as far as I know Keyreative also made DSA drifter so it IS the same manufacturer ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Fri, 17 August 2018, 15:24:46

 I know that it’s not the same manufacturer but look at dsa drifter

I agree with everyone wanting the most accurate colors, trust me this is also what I want. That said, as far as I know Keyreative also made DSA drifter so it IS the same manufacturer ;)
Really looking forward to this. :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: azulyf on Fri, 17 August 2018, 15:51:46
This might be a moot point in any case if they don't have any other options than PBT.  I'm just saying I'm joining for the colors.  And that's a big problem on many keysets - the color matching.  And PBT is always a bit washed out.  Those colors on drifter look fine.  But they aren't exactly vibrant, but more muted.  It's that way with every PBT set that I've seen and is indeed what designers state as a disadvantage of PBT.

I think the problem of GS XDA set is issue of XDA manufacturer. Look at their Milestone, Canvas and 8bit they almost look the same. Keyreative works much better in color which is shown from Drifter and Peach, though they are not as vibrant as ABS. But the guy from Keycreative says the KAT profile keys would have gloss surface finish which may make color better matched with the render.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 17 August 2018, 16:09:45
This might be a moot point in any case if they don't have any other options than PBT.  I'm just saying I'm joining for the colors.  And that's a big problem on many keysets - the color matching.  And PBT is always a bit washed out.  Those colors on drifter look fine.  But they aren't exactly vibrant, but more muted.  It's that way with every PBT set that I've seen and is indeed what designers state as a disadvantage of PBT.

I think the problem of GS XDA set is issue of XDA manufacturer. Look at their Milestone, Canvas and 8bit they almost look the same. Keyreative works much better in color which is shown from Drifter and Peach, though they are not as vibrant as ABS. But the guy from Keycreative says the KAT profile keys would have gloss surface finish which may make color better matched with the render.

Well, it's a matter in the designer's hand now.  I really want this to turn out well, though, so wanted to bring it up as a concern.   I just remember Plum and Solarized Dark, and those were ABS.  After looking at Godspeed, well, it concerned me for PBT.  But we'll see!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Harms on Fri, 17 August 2018, 21:14:36
So is this officially KAT? Renders and main topic opener is still all GMK.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: chuckdee on Fri, 17 August 2018, 21:56:13
So is this officially KAT? Renders and main topic opener is still all GMK.

He's said it, but not sure he has confirmation yet.  And renders cost money, so I wouldn't do it until I was sure either.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: young_won on Fri, 17 August 2018, 22:32:19
I want to see the rendering KAT profile Oasis
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: thelaughingman on Sat, 18 August 2018, 00:03:28
more interested in this set now that it is in KAT. Some questions, I know this is far out and your attention is on Monochrome but get to them when you can:
cheers  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 18 August 2018, 02:33:42
So is this officially KAT? Renders and main topic opener is still all GMK.

I want to see the rendering KAT profile Oasis

Some will come at some point, I promise. As of right now I am still waiting to see it this is 100% doable colorwise and I am waiting to get confirmation from zFrontier. That and the fact that I do not know who can render the KAT profile (I think the renders for the KAT Alpha GB were done by Keyreative themselves, not sure).

more interested in this set now that it is in KAT. Some questions, I know this is far out and your attention is on Monochrome but get to them when you can:
  • would the kits in KAT Alpha be indicative of the kits for Oasis?
  • will there be a 6u center stem space bar?
cheers  :thumb:



Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: sythie on Sat, 18 August 2018, 15:49:04
Any possibility for looking in to having RAMA keycap(s) made in KAT profile?

Like you did for the previous GMK Oasis.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: thelaughingman on Sat, 18 August 2018, 22:10:32
So is this officially KAT? Renders and main topic opener is still all GMK.

I want to see the rendering KAT profile Oasis

Some will come at some point, I promise. As of right now I am still waiting to see it this is 100% doable colorwise and I am waiting to get confirmation from zFrontier. That and the fact that I do not know who can render the KAT profile (I think the renders for the KAT Alpha GB were done by Keyreative themselves, not sure).

more interested in this set now that it is in KAT. Some questions, I know this is far out and your attention is on Monochrome but get to them when you can:
  • would the kits in KAT Alpha be indicative of the kits for Oasis?
  • will there be a 6u center stem space bar?
cheers  :thumb:


  • That's what I am aiming for, that said, we did discuss the possibility of other kits too. It all depends on MOQ and how many persons are interested in this or that kit. What I plan on doing is, if KAT is confirmed, get the quotes, make a Google form with the prices for each kit and leave it up for a couple of days and then decide what kit to run or not to run (I will of course share the numbers)
  • If that is available by Keyreative, you can be sure it will make its way into the spacebar kit :)

Well actually in the base kit of KAT Alpha, there are 4 spacebars: 6.25u, 7u, 3u and a 6u but I couldn't find anywhere confirming whether that 6u is centered or off-centered stem LOL

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/kat-base-min.jpg?v=1531621364)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 19 August 2018, 10:01:57
Well actually in the base kit of KAT Alpha, there are 4 spacebars: 6.25u, 7u, 3u and a 6u but I couldn't find anywhere confirming whether that 6u is centered or off-centered stem LOL

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/kat-base-min.jpg?v=1531621364)


I will check that with them and let you know :-D
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 19 September 2018, 00:49:11
Updates?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: bobdenard on Sat, 20 October 2018, 17:47:11
Still very interested in this, love those colors.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: phatty on Sat, 20 October 2018, 20:32:41
I'm keen to grab this. It's a good opportunity to get my hands on a KAT kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Mon, 22 October 2018, 10:34:51
BTW, have you considered going hangul legends instead of hiragana? Given how clean the set is, I think it would work even better.

THIS! Please!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: _ODIN_ on Mon, 22 October 2018, 10:53:31
BTW, have you considered going hangul legends instead of hiragana? Given how clean the set is, I think it would work even better.

THIS! Please!
+1
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Blue Paradise
Post by: chuckdee on Mon, 22 October 2018, 12:35:49
BTW, have you considered going hangul legends instead of hiragana? Given how clean the set is, I think it would work even better.

There are still a lot of us very interested in Hiragana, I think.  There was a poll  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: mik1 on Tue, 23 October 2018, 22:58:21
Just a question, is there any key cap set in this world with Oasis' design or similar but all white on black and with NorDe (and preferably offers blank Windows keys)?

(Wider NorDe conversation here https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97874 .)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Ashardalon on Sun, 04 November 2018, 01:48:17
I've been wanting to see another set in the KAT profile since the Alpha set came out. I love the colourway in this set and would be interested in picking up a set down the line. Best of luck with the samples and renders :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Chekonjak on Fri, 16 November 2018, 10:36:20
Yeah smooth PBT is really nice.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 17 November 2018, 16:04:27
Is "smooth" for KAT similar to GMK ABS smoothness on the sides of the keycaps, or more like "less rough" PBT keycaps by BSP?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Ashardalon on Sat, 15 December 2018, 00:45:31
Any updates on this project as of yet?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Darknight00z on Fri, 28 December 2018, 08:03:37
bump
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 08 January 2019, 04:37:10
Hello everyone!

I feel like I've been very absent of this thread for quite a while; I was focusing on GMK Monochrome and I was mostly waiting on zFrontier/Keyreative ("zFrontier" hereafter) for updates.

The thing is that zFrontier wanted to finish the "KAT Alpha" production before launching any other KAT product, and I got confirmation in the second half of december that said production was finishing "real soon" (TM).

I know the first post of this thread still mentions GMK and all renders are for that profile but I've repeatedly asked zFrontier for the 3D files and they told me I would have them by the end of the week (crossing my fingers here, really hope I have them soon). If that is the case, I will try to get some renders for you guys and will post them as soon as possible. 3D files also means that RAMA will be able to work on a key. I already discussed this with him and he said it wouldn't be a problem, as long as he had the files to work with.

zFrontier also mentioned it would be possible to get samples this month to show the colors. I take that with a grain of salt as this of course depends on the KAT Alpha production and on on how well they manage to reproduce the colors. That said, and this is exciting to me, I got "confirmation" that reverse dye-sub should be possible (zFrontier was not confident in this at the beginning). That means that the coffee kit would be possible to produce (it would be more expensive, but still possible). I will of course update you guys as soon as I have more news :)


To finish this update, I do have two points I want to discuss:

I think that's it for now, thanks a lot for reading and for your support!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Tue, 08 January 2019, 06:29:26
Hello everyone!

I feel like I've been very absent of this thread for quite a while; I was focusing on GMK Monochrome and I was mostly waiting on zFrontier/Keyreative ("zFrontier" hereafter) for updates.

The thing is that zFrontier wanted to finish the "KAT Alpha" production before launching any other KAT product, and I got confirmation in the second half of december that said production was finishing "real soon" (TM).

I know the first post of this thread still mentions GMK and all renders are for that profile but I've repeatedly asked zFrontier for the 3D files and they told me I would have them by the end of the week (crossing my fingers here, really hope I have them soon). If that is the case, I will try to get some renders for you guys and will post them as soon as possible. 3D files also means that RAMA will be able to work on a key. I already discussed this with him and he said it wouldn't be a problem, as long as he had the files to work with.

zFrontier also mentioned it would be possible to get samples this month to show the colors. I take that with a grain of salt as this of course depends on the KAT Alpha production and on on how well they manage to reproduce the colors. That said, and this is exciting to me, I got "confirmation" that reverse dye-sub should be possible (zFrontier was not confident in this at the beginning). That means that the coffee kit would be possible to produce (it would be more expensive, but still possible). I will of course update you guys as soon as I have more news :)


To finish this update, I do have two points I want to discuss:
  • Considering the fact that the coffee kit will cost more to be produced (I also expect a higher MOQ, but not sure, I'll wait confirmation to say anything on this), I wanted to see how much interest there was for the Coffee kit (for some reason I can't access the Strawpoll site, but I will create a poll when I get back home from work); and
  • My first attempt really lacked a novelty kit. I can't say for sure that zFrontier can produce novelties with the KAT profile but I would like to see if we can get something done for the RAMA keys (something a little custom as what Biip is getting for Bento - would you guys have any idea? I suck at everything photoshop/illustrator/... so I would appreciate any help you guys would provide.

I think that's it for now, thanks a lot for reading and for your support!
Amazing news! I would like to get the coffee kit. Is there a chance for a dedicated NorDe kit?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 08 January 2019, 07:06:35
Amazing news! I would like to get the coffee kit. Is there a chance for a dedicated NorDe kit?

I would need to check with zFrontier, but I have to admit, after seeing how this GB went and the general trend of trying to bring down the number of kits, that I am a little... skeptical as to whether this kit would hit MOQ or not. That is something that I would need to get the MOQ for and see the interest of the community.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: portbaron on Tue, 08 January 2019, 16:25:04
Coffee kit is what I want this set for, I forgot it wasn't the default.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Caelestic on Wed, 09 January 2019, 01:47:45
To finish this update, I do have two points I want to discuss:
  • Considering the fact that the coffee kit will cost more to be produced (I also expect a higher MOQ, but not sure, I'll wait confirmation to say anything on this), I wanted to see how much interest there was for the Coffee kit (for some reason I can't access the Strawpoll site, but I will create a poll when I get back home from work); and

I pretty much prefer the coffee set over the base one. With KAT instead of GMK I am even more interested in this (not that I do not like GMK but a change in profiles is a welcome change).
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Kerasan on Wed, 09 January 2019, 01:55:04
I want to buy Kat core kit + coffè kit  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: bobdenard on Wed, 09 January 2019, 10:08:19
I am still very much in. Regular and coffee look amazing, will be getting both ;)


Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: derznation on Wed, 09 January 2019, 10:44:45
Too late to get in on this GB?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 09 January 2019, 10:49:16
Too late to get in on this GB?
This is still in IC phase

Gesendet von meinem H8416 mit Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Wed, 09 January 2019, 10:49:41
Are you keeping the kobe kit?

Gesendet von meinem H8416 mit Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: derznation on Wed, 09 January 2019, 11:21:06
Too late to get in on this GB?
This is still in IC phase

Gesendet von meinem H8416 mit Tapatalk

Great, thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Darknight00z on Fri, 11 January 2019, 18:07:22
Just checked up on the KAT profile, really digging the shorter SA. Very interested in trying it out.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: DasGnome on Fri, 18 January 2019, 08:48:21
I love this colorway. So glad it hasn't died! 
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _GMK_ on Sat, 19 January 2019, 14:10:46
Interested in the kobe, but I'm sure that latin + japanese symbols would have a bigger market. According to massdrop, at least three times bigger.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 13 February 2019, 12:32:10
I think KAT alpha has finished with shipping and turned out pretty good. So any movement on this?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 13 February 2019, 14:48:21
I think KAT alpha has finished with shipping and turned out pretty good. So any movement on this?

Not sure if others have the same issue, but KAT alpha's stepped caps (capslock and ctrl) are not correctly made and it collides with "A". A few keys are a bit taller than others.

Overall a solid set, but some keys are not usable (at least for me).
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 18 February 2019, 04:24:15
I think KAT alpha has finished with shipping and turned out pretty good. So any movement on this?

Not sure if others have the same issue, but KAT alpha's stepped caps (capslock and ctrl) are not correctly made and it collides with "A". A few keys are a bit taller than others.

Overall a solid set, but some keys are not usable (at least for me).

I hope zfrontier will send you replacement keys
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _GMK_ on Mon, 18 February 2019, 05:28:12
I think KAT alpha has finished with shipping and turned out pretty good. So any movement on this?

Not sure if others have the same issue, but KAT alpha's stepped caps (capslock and ctrl) are not correctly made and it collides with "A". A few keys are a bit taller than others.

Overall a solid set, but some keys are not usable (at least for me).

Sorry, I know nothing about this set, what brand are you talking about? Not gmk it seems.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 19 February 2019, 16:29:43
I think KAT alpha has finished with shipping and turned out pretty good. So any movement on this?

Not sure if others have the same issue, but KAT alpha's stepped caps (capslock and ctrl) are not correctly made and it collides with "A". A few keys are a bit taller than others.

Overall a solid set, but some keys are not usable (at least for me).

Sorry, I know nothing about this set, what brand are you talking about? Not gmk it seems.

It's a new profile called KAT from Keyreactive, makers of dsa driftor, dsa milkshake among others. The first keyset in this profile called KAT Alpha just shipped. More information about this profile can be found here: https://en.zfrontier.com/products/kat-alpha
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: vicissitude on Wed, 20 February 2019, 00:29:22
Love the color.
Hope GB coming soon.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: bobdenard on Wed, 20 February 2019, 02:22:48
I like KAT profile, but I don’t like that it is not double shot. I got DSA Milkshake and I find the colors to be a bit washed out compared to GMK. Plus legends are not as precise.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: sakodo on Sun, 24 March 2019, 19:59:27
looks awesome
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: KawabataLuis on Tue, 26 March 2019, 14:39:50
Didn't see that this became KAT, which pumped up my interest hiiiiiigh! Don't know how things are going with this, but when it comes I'll be ready.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Ashardalon on Thu, 11 April 2019, 12:33:42
I'm hoping that this doesn't die, but no updates in months is not a good sign.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 15 April 2019, 06:55:06
I'm hoping that this doesn't die, but no updates in months is not a good sign.

Oh no, this is 100% dead  :p

All jokes aside, it's not dead, I've recently moved in my new place, started a new job and got super sick for the entire month of March. I've also been waiting for zFrontier to send me 3D files so I could start getting renders and see if everything was ok - Good news is that I got those files last Friday.

Bad news is that it looks like the color I picked for the base of my alphas is not ok. I am going to see if 155 C looks good and see if that is something Keyreative can work with.

(https://i.imgur.com/qikSnQE.png)

Sorry for the short update guys, I just wanted to let everyone know what this is not dead :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: _ODIN_ on Mon, 15 April 2019, 07:45:48
I'm hoping that this doesn't die, but no updates in months is not a good sign.

Oh no, this is 100% dead 

All jokes aside, it's not dead, I've recently moved in my new place, started a new job and got super sick for the entire month of March. I've also been waiting for zFrontier to send me 3D files so I could start getting renders and see if everything was ok - Good news is that I got those files last Friday.

Bad news is that it looks like the color I picked for the base of my alphas is not ok. I am going to see if 155 C looks good and see if that is something Keyreative can work with.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qikSnQE.png)


Sorry for the short update guys, I just wanted to let everyone know what this is not dead :)
Thanks for the update! :)

Gesendet von meinem H8416 mit Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: pcire on Mon, 15 April 2019, 08:04:31
That’s a good update!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Kerasan on Mon, 15 April 2019, 09:43:17
I'm hoping that this doesn't die, but no updates in months is not a good sign.

Oh no, this is 100% dead  :p

All jokes aside, it's not dead, I've recently moved in my new place, started a new job and got super sick for the entire month of March. I've also been waiting for zFrontier to send me 3D files so I could start getting renders and see if everything was ok - Good news is that I got those files last Friday.

Bad news is that it looks like the color I picked for the base of my alphas is not ok. I am going to see if 155 C looks good and see if that is something Keyreative can work with.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qikSnQE.png)


Sorry for the short update guys, I just wanted to let everyone know what this is not dead :)

Hype over 9000!

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Abec13 on Mon, 15 April 2019, 09:52:47
I bought this in GMK and was so sad when it didn't go through. Let's get some KAT profile!!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Cornutgi on Fri, 10 May 2019, 23:49:39
Any updates? Looking forward to this!! I need that Kobe and coffee
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - Question inside // Coffee
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 31 May 2019, 01:58:24
Hey guys!!

Quick update: nothing. lmao. I wish I had something, but except for the 3D files for renders (font was missing, took a loooooooong time to get that as well), I have no news for you :(

That said, seing GMK Café really makes me feel bad - not that I would be competing with him or anything, just the lack of understanding from the designer about the modifiers' color.

I know most of you wanted to see GMK Coffee (although that did not show in the poll I posted which ended-up being 50/50), but everything I see about this makes me wonder if I should not just drop the blue and make it a real coffee set. Would you guys want to see a Coffee set in KAT over the Oasis one?

I would like your honest point of view on this because this set would be for me but for all the community to enjoy :)

---

Edit: Going KAT Coffee would be doable according to my last mail exchange with Alex but I'm just a little scarred for the modifiers. I've asked zFrontier to get a key or two produced to see what it would look like. I would really feel better having samples to show you guys rather than just renders.

As it is, I prefer KAT over GMK,
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - Question inside // Coffee
Post by: eskimojo on Fri, 31 May 2019, 02:49:09
Hey guys!!

Quick update: nothing. lmao. I wish I had something, but except for the 3D files for renders (font was missing, took a loooooooong time to get that as well), I have no news for you :(

That said, seing GMK Café really makes me feel bad - not that I would be competing with him or anything, just the lack of understanding from the designer about the modifiers' color.

I know most of you wanted to see GMK Coffee (although that did not show in the poll I posted which ended-up being 50/50), but everything I see about this makes me wonder if I should not just drop the blue and make it a real coffee set. Of course, if I were to do that, I would probably stick to GMK (seeing how slowly things are moving with zFrontier) but that would also raise the question of two sets competing against each other, although to be honest I don't really see the similarities with Café (except for the team).

I would like your honest point of view on this because this set would be for me but for all the community to enjoy :)
I think dropping the blue and making it full coffee would be good for the set, however I'd be much more interested to see it in KAT - having used both, I actually prefer KAT as a profile.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - Question inside // Coffee
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 31 May 2019, 02:52:08
I think dropping the blue and making it full coffee would be good for the set, however I'd be much more interested to see it in KAT - having used both, I actually prefer KAT as a profile.

I really really like KAT but it has been 7-8 months that I've been talking to zFrontier and I'm nowhere close to getting samples to make sure the coffee modifiers would look good. I could try and go for just KAT Coffee but again, I can't do that without knowing if the modifiers would look ok.

Edit: I had to say I have no news to get some, hu? zFrontier confirmed they asked Keyreative to produce a couple of sample for the coffee modifiers and the alphas. Super excited to see those and finally be able to move forward with this project!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: ivu on Sun, 02 June 2019, 01:03:49
The two color setup of the wooden case render is so lovely and clean that i'd get that for sure if it goes out to match my newly bought walnut 65 case..
Will pay close attention how the project goes.

Edit: The more i think about it, the more i dig the blue. Might go for base + coffee kit and make some different variations.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - Question inside // Coffee
Post by: Xynerorias on Sun, 02 June 2019, 07:56:23
I think dropping the blue and making it full coffee would be good for the set, however I'd be much more interested to see it in KAT - having used both, I actually prefer KAT as a profile.

I really really like KAT but it has been 7-8 months that I've been talking to zFrontier and I'm nowhere close to getting samples to make sure the coffee modifiers would look good. I could try and go for just KAT Coffee but again, I can't do that without knowing if the modifiers would look ok.

Edit: I had to say I have no news to get some, hu? zFrontier confirmed they asked Keyreative to produce a couple of sample for the coffee modifiers and the alphas. Super excited to see those and finally be able to move forward with this project!

I'd rather have the blue in there. I'm ok if it's not KAT, the original GMK Oasis was totally fine by me, but for me the blue plays a big part, it really gives that beach feeling that I really like, I'm really not interested in the Coffee look.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: phinix on Sun, 09 June 2019, 15:00:31
This is one beautiful set. I love the idea of doing Coffee.
Never heard about KAT profile, reading now. So sounds like it is SA, only lower?
What would be top surface coverage? Bigger than DSA?
DSA has smaller surface than SA or other profiles. Id ont like it so wanted to confim...
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: thelaughingman on Sun, 09 June 2019, 18:33:49
This is one beautiful set. I love the idea of doing Coffee.
Never heard about KAT profile, reading now. So sounds like it is SA, only lower?
What would be top surface coverage? Bigger than DSA?
DSA has smaller surface than SA or other profiles. Id ont like it so wanted to confim...

yes, lower SA, spherical tops about XDA coverage, PBT but extremely dense and smooooooooooth. I like the sculpt a lot more than SA, maybe mostly because of the height. Have not switched back to GMK ever since I got KAT Alpha LOL. Here are some of the pictures I took for your reference.

[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3]
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: phinix on Wed, 12 June 2019, 15:21:24
This is one beautiful set. I love the idea of doing Coffee.
Never heard about KAT profile, reading now. So sounds like it is SA, only lower?
What would be top surface coverage? Bigger than DSA?
DSA has smaller surface than SA or other profiles. Id ont like it so wanted to confim...

yes, lower SA, spherical tops about XDA coverage, PBT but extremely dense and smooooooooooth. I like the sculpt a lot more than SA, maybe mostly because of the height. Have not switched back to GMK ever since I got KAT Alpha LOL. Here are some of the pictures I took for your reference.

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

Awesome, thank you for this.

Would you be able to put it next to SA cap?
Side to side and from top, so I could see the actual top coverage?

How deep is the top surface? More like SA - light edges? Or more like DSA - strong edges like deep dish?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: thelaughingman on Wed, 12 June 2019, 19:22:42
Awesome, thank you for this.

Would you be able to put it next to SA cap?
Side to side and from top, so I could see the actual top coverage?

How deep is the top surface? More like SA - light edges? Or more like DSA - strong edges like deep dish?

Sorry no SA over here (I hate SA :P). The top surface is pretty shallow, unlike MT3 for example. The edges are not that sharp at all and there's no deep dish in the set, only homing bar.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Sintpinty on Wed, 12 June 2019, 19:32:45
Looks more of a beach to me. But very good
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: phinix on Thu, 13 June 2019, 02:54:46
Awesome, thank you for this.

Would you be able to put it next to SA cap?
Side to side and from top, so I could see the actual top coverage?

How deep is the top surface? More like SA - light edges? Or more like DSA - strong edges like deep dish?

Sorry no SA over here (I hate SA :P). The top surface is pretty shallow, unlike MT3 for example. The edges are not that sharp at all and there's no deep dish in the set, only homing bar.

Sweet, sounds good to me, hopefully this will run soon :)
I like SA, but lately its height is kinda bugging me for some reason.
I like XDA too. Cherry is ok.
I do NOT like DSA and MT3 - sharp high edges and all caps being like deep dish is driving me nutters...
So KAT sounds interesting, simply lower SA I would say.
And that smoooothness sounds great, I actually love when Cherry gets so smooth and shiny with time :p

I would be getting core and coffee kit - these two together will look sweeeeeet :D
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 12 September 2019, 16:36:31
Big update in the first post guys! New kits and more information :) Go check it out and show some love! <3
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: bobdenard on Thu, 12 September 2019, 16:55:58
This is glorious! Great work truly. I was one of the GMK version backers and I’m so glad it’s going to see the light of day at last. I love this colorway. Plus the baguette kit made my day, so glad it’s becoming a trend. I’ll be all in once it goes live!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 12 September 2019, 18:09:04
Looking great, but wondering what the extra keys in the UK kit are for, considering ISO UK support looks like this
(https://i.imgur.com/5hpazpS.png)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 12 September 2019, 18:36:55
Is there any way you could remove the color formatting on your original post?  I use a light theme for GH and I can’t read the text.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: Pluto19 on Thu, 12 September 2019, 19:47:21
What's a "craddle"?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: nasp on Thu, 12 September 2019, 20:18:03
Any novelties being considered?

Thanks for putting r3 ctrl in the ortho kit  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: depletedvespene on Thu, 12 September 2019, 20:22:37
Are the international kits in the last update final, or are they drafts?

(both contain oddities and errors that need to be checked)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: Zilleon on Fri, 13 September 2019, 01:40:24
Omg, there is a Colevrak kit T_T
So happy to see that!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: pcire on Fri, 13 September 2019, 02:05:25
Awesome news!!!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 13 September 2019, 02:06:36
Looking great, but wondering what the extra keys in the UK kit are for, considering ISO UK support looks like this
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5hpazpS.png)

I brain farted, I made myself the same comment when I saw Biip's kit and yet I still managed to keep it the same... I'll correct that tonight after work.

What's a "craddle"?
It's basically a cradle, but with two Ds :( corrected the typo ^^

Is there any way you could remove the color formatting on your original post?  I use a light theme for GH and I can’t read the text.
You sir should be happy :) took me a couple of minutes as there were a lot of tags, but it's done :)

Any novelties being considered?

Thanks for putting r3 ctrl in the ortho kit  :thumb:

I managed to forget to post those... smh... here they are :D

Novelties

(https://i.imgur.com/a2AKHFx.png)(https://i.imgur.com/P4zEzLQ.png)

Are the international kits in the last update final, or are they drafts?

(both contain oddities and errors that need to be checked)

I PMed you about it :) I am aware of the UK kit problems, what about the other issues? :)

Omg, there is a Colevrak kit T_T
So happy to see that!
You're welcome hehe

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 15 September 2019, 07:17:03
Sunday update  ;D

I'm proud to announce that KF has accepted to collab and will produce somes keys that will match Oasis - Mockups will arrive in October! On the artisan note, Here is the keypora that will be produced for this set, I hope you like it :
(https://i.imgur.com/m3ZXDj4.png)

Last but not least, RAMA will produce a gold key with the arabian palace novelty filled with brown enamel, this promises to be one heck of a key :) I can't wait to show it to you!

Updates to a couple of kits:


Modifiers

(https://i.imgur.com/IXSuC83.png)(https://i.imgur.com/SjMR6iU.png)

International

(https://i.imgur.com/vLm5YeT.png)

UK

(https://i.imgur.com/CipWYwy.png)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 15 September 2019, 17:49:01
Woohoo.  I can read the post now. Very interesting set.  Watching
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 18 September 2019, 03:37:27
Some of you might have seen it already as I ninja edited the first post but I received the render for the RAMA key
(https://i.imgur.com/Q3UitM9.jpg)

Artisan list is also growing, along with Keyforge confirming he will be part of the project, I also got confirmation that SUK will be producing a keybuto and snapjaw, BAD will also join the team :) Coz and Hello? have mentioned that would be interested in participating but it depends on their schedule.

All in all, this looks like an all-star artisan team and I'm super excited!

I really hope to be able to show you guys renders soon - I blame WOW Classic for the delay ^^'

Last but not least, for the people interested in the INTL and CMD kits, I've added a "potential change" line, I'd like to hear your feedback :)

Have a good one!

- Jonathan
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: bobdenard on Wed, 18 September 2019, 03:55:22
Regarding the Cmd kit, I prefer Icons but text is fine too.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: Kerasan on Wed, 18 September 2019, 10:35:09
totally insane, I'd like everyone to see the potential of this set, I love it

KMK Labs.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (New kits - renders coming soon)
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 19 September 2019, 16:47:00
More
Looking great, but wondering what the extra keys in the UK kit are for, considering ISO UK support looks like this
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5hpazpS.png)

I brain farted, I made myself the same comment when I saw Biip's kit and yet I still managed to keep it the same... I'll correct that tonight after work.

What's a "craddle"?
It's basically a cradle, but with two Ds :( corrected the typo ^^

Is there any way you could remove the color formatting on your original post?  I use a light theme for GH and I can’t read the text.
You sir should be happy :) took me a couple of minutes as there were a lot of tags, but it's done :)

Any novelties being considered?

Thanks for putting r3 ctrl in the ortho kit  :thumb:

I managed to forget to post those... smh... here they are :D

Novelties

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/a2AKHFx.png)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/P4zEzLQ.png)


Are the international kits in the last update final, or are they drafts?

(both contain oddities and errors that need to be checked)

I PMed you about it :) I am aware of the UK kit problems, what about the other issues? :)
Omg, there is a Colevrak kit T_T
So happy to see that!
You're welcome hehe

Yes, thanks for offering a Colvrak kit.  Perfect since are no individual kit MOQs.

Please consider adding two keycaps:
   1) A non-homing R3 U for non-homing Dvorak support.
   2) An R4 apostrophe/quote to assist Programmer's Dvorak.

Thanks again, and GLWB.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 27 September 2019, 05:03:55
First post updated with renders :D


(https://i.imgur.com/NAhjSVU.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/5fRvZfr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Q7QnECb.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Ub06Sdy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eYE3mxc.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/h9RrWFc.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: VelourFog on Sat, 28 September 2019, 14:42:17
ACK - the brown colors are right in line with what I was considering using for A design idea of my own.  Haha.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: long_qt_pie on Sat, 28 September 2019, 22:41:17
Been in love with this colorway since the GMK kit IC.  Lots of KAT recently, hopefully doesn't mean there'll be a queue lol
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: walletburner on Sun, 29 September 2019, 13:57:54
love the tan alphas/brown mods. sad that this didnt make it as a GMK set but with 40% support id be way in on this as a better coffee set than other attempts at it.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: Bawsky on Sun, 29 September 2019, 23:13:55
Hmm, been thinking about joining a KAT GB for a while. This might be the one.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: monovertex on Sun, 29 September 2019, 23:33:19
The arabian alphas look amazing. Most likely joining this for arabians and an ergo kit.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 01 October 2019, 08:32:16
Thanks a lot for the support guys!

Quick update:
Samples had to be redone because colors wasn't all that good, they have now been sent (yesterday) to zFrontier, I should be getting pictures during/after the chinese holidays and I'll be able to get the samples in hand and send them to artisan makers so they can colormatch a little better :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 01 October 2019, 15:31:05
Had a little time on my hand tonight so I tweaked a couple of kits:

Modifiers

Added a modifiers-colored R4 tilde and R3 backslash key in the kits with labels.

(https://i.imgur.com/fAZ8oRN.png)(https://i.imgur.com/AqtoTc3.png)

I deleted a couple of useless keys of the blank modifiers kits whilst still maintaining compatibility for 65/75% and boards with split BS.

(https://i.imgur.com/fmzJmpM.png)(https://i.imgur.com/p1pUGYv.png)

Novelties

Tweaked a little bit the novelties kits:

* added some R3 and R2 novelties for 65/75% compatibility
* added an ISO novelty
* deleted some R1 1.5u novelties
* added 2 1u R1 novelties

(https://i.imgur.com/aS4YsUA.png)(https://i.imgur.com/OhTuEpL.png)

Ergo

Corrected row labels on the kit images

(https://i.imgur.com/EkGmEdO.png)(https://i.imgur.com/cD9VAaN.png)

---
Artisan news:

I will be revealing the a couple of keys made by Artkey for this keyset - brace yourself, they are gorgeous!

I also wanted to announce that Coz confirmed he will be collaborating with me on Oasis. I am thrilled and will organize a giveaway open to all early birds (the ones that joined during week 1). I will keep one of each key and run a second giveaway at the end of the GB period which will include everyone :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: amperrsand on Wed, 02 October 2019, 19:21:59
The Arabic alphas is definitely interesting
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: bobdenard on Thu, 03 October 2019, 08:57:35
Digging the new ISO novelty!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 03 October 2019, 12:39:27
Digging the new ISO novelty!

Thanks a lot! Tried to stay minimalist with it :) Glad you like it!

The Arabic alphas is definitely interesting
Thanks :) They sure do, plus they play really well with the theme. I am getting a render done with them to better show them :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 21 October 2019, 14:17:12
Good news! Samples have arrived!

It's night here so the picture has been taken with artificial light, but they look even better IRL :D

(https://i.imgur.com/pcfQQmT.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived)
Post by: manzel on Mon, 21 October 2019, 16:15:48
The colors are really nice! I'm not liking the font of the samples, however. Are you going to use the Cherry Font/Helvetica Rounded for the set contrary to Gotham Rounded as shown in the renders? I think the Cherry Font looks rather strange when centered on spherical caps.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived)
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 21 October 2019, 16:18:10
Thanks for the comment - I forgot to mention it but the font on the sample is not the one that will be used for the final product :-) zFrontier and Keyreative know it and they confirmed that to me :-) I’ll be using the same font that was used on the renders :-)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - big update (RAMA Key added - renders coming soon)
Post by: eskimojo on Mon, 21 October 2019, 16:23:04
Good news! Samples have arrived!

It's night here so the picture has been taken with artificial light, but they look even better IRL :D

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pcfQQmT.jpg)


Colours look good - the brown reverse dye sub looks a little noisy on top, is that due to the lighting and cap texture?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived)
Post by: manzel on Mon, 21 October 2019, 16:35:20
I’ll be using the same font that was used on the renders :-)
Glad to hear that.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived)
Post by: stoffelduss on Mon, 21 October 2019, 16:51:19
Maybe this has been discussed in this thread before, didn't read through it, but the Arabic alphas don't seem very authentic to me with the US symbol layout... Wikipedia also only lists layouts with different symbol patterns. Also, please don't forget the 1u backslash in the number row for the standard split backspace layouts in the alphas.
Lastly, I was wondering about the ortho kit, because it has two alts, two system keys etc which is nice but only one control key for the bottom row, looks like an oversight to me. Also not sure why there's a mod color ` key in the qwerty row but no mod color ' key in the asdf row, might also be a mistake?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived)
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 21 October 2019, 16:56:55
Maybe this has been discussed in this thread before, didn't read through it, but the Arabic alphas don't seem very authentic to me with the US symbol layout... Wikipedia also only lists layouts with different symbol patterns. Also, please don't forget the 1u backslash in the number row for the standard split backspace layouts in the alphas.
Lastly, I was wondering about the ortho kit, because it has two alts, two system keys etc which is nice but only one control key for the bottom row, looks like an oversight to me. Also not sure why there's a mod color ` key in the qwerty row but no mod color ' key in the asdf row, might also be a mistake?

I'm about to go to bed but I quickly wanted to answer the Arabic legends point you brought up: I used the ones that MiTo used when he ran a set with Arabic because it was (1) what the community already had/knew and (2) because I like them as they are :)

I'm not opposed to changing them, of course, but I really like the way they look and nobody complained about them yet so I never second guessed it ^^
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived)
Post by: stoffelduss on Mon, 21 October 2019, 17:04:06
I'm about to go to bed but I quickly wanted to answer the Arabic legends point you brought up: I used the ones that MiTo used when he ran a set with Arabic because it was (1) what the community already had/knew and (2) because I like them as they are :)

I'm not opposed to changing them, of course, but I really like the way they look and nobody complained about them yet so I never second guessed it ^^
What set did MiTo run that had Arabic legends? I remember GMK Pulse which had an alpha kit with the standard US layout and with Arabic as sublegends, but that's not the same as a mono-Arabic set. With that GMK Pulse kit, it was still mainly a US layout kit.

Good night!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived)
Post by: ppnp253 on Mon, 21 October 2019, 19:03:57
The alphas look way more peach colored than that tan color from the renders. Will there be another run of samples, or was that intended (might just be the lighting)?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived)
Post by: depletedvespene on Mon, 21 October 2019, 19:49:48
Maybe this has been discussed in this thread before, didn't read through it, but the Arabic alphas don't seem very authentic to me with the US symbol layout... Wikipedia also only lists layouts with different symbol patterns. Also, please don't forget the 1u backslash in the number row for the standard split backspace layouts in the alphas.
Lastly, I was wondering about the ortho kit, because it has two alts, two system keys etc which is nice but only one control key for the bottom row, looks like an oversight to me. Also not sure why there's a mod color ` key in the qwerty row but no mod color ' key in the asdf row, might also be a mistake?

I'm about to go to bed but I quickly wanted to answer the Arabic legends point you brought up: I used the ones that MiTo used when he ran a set with Arabic because it was (1) what the community already had/knew and (2) because I like them as they are :)

I'm not opposed to changing them, of course, but I really like the way they look and nobody complained about them yet so I never second guessed it ^^

Well... just to add fuel to the fire, here's what an IBM Model M keyboard with Arabic legends looks like:


[attach=1]


Note the font is different, so some "apparently" different symbols, aren't. Also, note the usage of (modern-style) Arabic numerals.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 22 October 2019, 02:15:06
Maybe this has been discussed in this thread before, didn't read through it, but the Arabic alphas don't seem very authentic to me with the US symbol layout... Wikipedia also only lists layouts with different symbol patterns.

Well... just to add fuel to the fire, here's what an IBM Model M keyboard with Arabic legends looks like:
Note the font is different, so some "apparently" different symbols, aren't. Also, note the usage of (modern-style) Arabic numerals.

So, I was indeed referring to GMK Pulse - when I looked around for Arabic keyboards, I mainly found latin alphas with Arabic sublegends (which is what MiTo did) but I wanted to unclutter the alphas as much as possible so I went with his legends, but as alphas and not sublegends. I can see your point of it looking weird so the best solution to me (and by that I mean to both try and make you guys happy and keep my vision) would be to remove the latin legends completely from the keys and go with the Arabic ones (this would also be done for the numrow)

Also, please don't forget the 1u backslash in the number row for the standard split backspace layouts in the alphas.

This is something that was on my ToDo.

Lastly, I was wondering about the ortho kit, because it has two alts, two system keys etc which is nice but only one control key for the bottom row, looks like an oversight to me. Also not sure why there's a mod color ` key in the qwerty row but no mod color ' key in the asdf row, might also be a mistake?


Good news! Samples have arrived!

It's night here so the picture has been taken with artificial light, but they look even better IRL :D

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pcfQQmT.jpg)


Colours look good - the brown reverse dye sub looks a little noisy on top, is that due to the lighting and cap texture?

The alphas look way more peach colored than that tan color from the renders. Will there be another run of samples, or was that intended (might just be the lighting)?

I'll take some more pictures when I get home from work (I took those pics yesterday night at around 9.00 PM, I'll take them with natural light today and try to use a DSLR to do so. Colors look really nice IRL and I'm fairly satisfied with them so I do not plan a second run of samples (fairly surprised at how they managed to get the colors right the first time) and I've received pretty great feedback from vendors are community members who I shared the picture with, but I won't refuse to do another sample run if we end-up deciding it's necessary :) I've always listened to the community and will keep doing so.






Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived)
Post by: stoffelduss on Tue, 22 October 2019, 06:53:02
Lastly, I was wondering about the ortho kit, because it has two alts, two system keys etc which is nice but only one control key for the bottom row, looks like an oversight to me. Also not sure why there's a mod color ` key in the qwerty row but no mod color ' key in the asdf row, might also be a mistake?

  • I based that kit on the KAT Milkshake kit made by Biip as I have absolutely no experience with this type of board, so apologies for that :) I'll be looking into adding a second ctrl key.
  • (assuming you are talking of the modifiers kit and not something else) I'm not 100% sure what you are referring to: the mod color ` key is there for people that use something else than a 60% but want to keep a symmetric look. Could you let me know on what board the mod color ' key in the asdf row would be used? I've check Atlantis, Lucky Jade, Eternal and Milkshake and we are all using the same keys.
With the second point I was still talking about the ortho kit! I'd say even the preonic doesn't use the grave accent in the qwerty row, it would be in the number row. Planck kits often include an asdf row apostrophe key, for similar reasons as you explained: To keep the symmetry of mod colors and alpha colors. See this apostrophe key for example: https://oblotzky.github.io/sa-oblivion/images/keyboards/sa_oblivion_keyboard_planck_hagoromo_top_orthotilt_wqhd.jpg


So, I was indeed referring to GMK Pulse - when I looked around for Arabic keyboards, I mainly found latin alphas with Arabic sublegends (which is what MiTo did) but I wanted to unclutter the alphas as much as possible so I went with his legends, but as alphas and not sublegends. I can see your point of it looking weird so the best solution to me (and by that I mean to both try and make you guys happy and keep my vision) would be to remove the latin legends completely from the keys and go with the Arabic ones (this would also be done for the numrow)
I'm not Arabic myself so I don't feel qualified to say what the best way to make a mono-legend Arabic set would be, but what looked weird to me was that it was still basically a US-Arabic dual legend set on the symbol keys like the semicolon and the apostrophe, and Arabic mono-legend only where there would otherwise be Latin alphabet characters in the US layout, which seems like an inconsistent choice to me.

Aesthetically, I think I would find an entirely Arabic kit appealing.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived)
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 22 October 2019, 07:37:33
Lastly, I was wondering about the ortho kit, because it has two alts, two system keys etc which is nice but only one control key for the bottom row, looks like an oversight to me. Also not sure why there's a mod color ` key in the qwerty row but no mod color ' key in the asdf row, might also be a mistake?

  • I based that kit on the KAT Milkshake kit made by Biip as I have absolutely no experience with this type of board, so apologies for that :) I'll be looking into adding a second ctrl key.
  • (assuming you are talking of the modifiers kit and not something else) I'm not 100% sure what you are referring to: the mod color ` key is there for people that use something else than a 60% but want to keep a symmetric look. Could you let me know on what board the mod color ' key in the asdf row would be used? I've check Atlantis, Lucky Jade, Eternal and Milkshake and we are all using the same keys.
With the second point I was still talking about the ortho kit! I'd say even the preonic doesn't use the grave accent in the qwerty row, it would be in the number row. Planck kits often include an asdf row apostrophe key, for similar reasons as you explained: To keep the symmetry of mod colors and alpha colors. See this apostrophe key for example: https://oblotzky.github.io/sa-oblivion/images/keyboards/sa_oblivion_keyboard_planck_hagoromo_top_orthotilt_wqhd.jpg


Exactly what I needed, thanks for the image and the example of board. I'll look into adding that in those kits.

I'm not Arabic myself so I don't feel qualified to say what the best way to make a mono-legend Arabic set would be, but what looked weird to me was that it was still basically a US-Arabic dual legend set on the symbol keys like the semicolon and the apostrophe, and Arabic mono-legend only where there would otherwise be Latin alphabet characters in the US layout, which seems like an inconsistent choice to me.

Aesthetically, I think I would find an entirely Arabic kit appealing.

This is what I feel like would be the best choice, aesthetically speaking. I will make that tonight and update the kit.

Thank you for the feedback!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived) - not changing kits after October 31st
Post by: stoffelduss on Tue, 22 October 2019, 09:25:57
Thank you for taking this feedback into account!

I was wondering about this:
Quote
Colors look really nice IRL and I'm fairly satisfied with them so I do not plan a second run of samples
But the sample you have doesn't even use the correct font and doesn't use all-caps mods etc, and you haven't seen Arabic or novelty samples yet. Don't you want another run of samples for that stuff? Or are samples super expensive to get?

Edit: Looking at the samples next to the renders in the main post I have to agree they don't look the same at all. And I doubt it's entirely because of the lighting in the photo
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived) - not changing kits after October 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 22 October 2019, 14:08:12
Thank you for taking this feedback into account!

I was wondering about this:
Quote
Colors look really nice IRL and I'm fairly satisfied with them so I do not plan a second run of samples
But the sample you have doesn't even use the correct font and doesn't use all-caps mods etc, and you haven't seen Arabic or novelty samples yet. Don't you want another run of samples for that stuff? Or are samples super expensive to get?

Edit: Looking at the samples next to the renders in the main post I have to agree they don't look the same at all. And I doubt it's entirely because of the lighting in the photo


As I stated above, I will not be using the font used on the samples - keyreative and zFrontier know that as well. I'll be using the same font than the renders use. I will of course request to see samples for the novelties and at least one or two of the Arabic characters - when I said I was not going to order another run of samples, I meant colorwise. My first goal with these was to ensure colors looked good and most importantly that keyreative could produce liha kits I planned on running. I am 100% confident keyreative can produce the Arabic kit (considering the set they've already produced such as the Klingon set) and I haven't heard back from them about the novelties being too complicated to produce - should that be the case I am already ready with simpler versions of the same novelties.

Here are some more pictures taken with some natural light and with a DSLR:

(https://i.imgur.com/ygfQjYw.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/PVAgahB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1MukVw9.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/ayHXi3A.jpg)


Also, here are the updated kits:

Arabic Alpha
(https://i.imgur.com/VIHcsDq.png)

Modifiers
(https://i.imgur.com/bE61sRs.png)(https://i.imgur.com/jnlUJL2.png)

Ortho
(https://i.imgur.com/gVa4PuC.png)(https://i.imgur.com/6tpsvbx.png)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived) - not changing kits after October 31st
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 22 October 2019, 14:12:18
Those samples look awesome.

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived) - not changing kits after October 31st
Post by: eskimojo on Tue, 22 October 2019, 14:19:29
Here are some more pictures taken with some natural light and with a DSLR:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ygfQjYw.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/PVAgahB.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1MukVw9.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ayHXi3A.jpg)
Looks much better, thanks  :D
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived) - not changing kits after October 31st
Post by: monovertex on Tue, 22 October 2019, 15:14:08
The blank alphas would look awesome in the modifiers’ blue
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived) - not changing kits after October 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 28 October 2019, 02:11:28
Couple more renders on the Flex - Virgo (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102711.0) - if you haven't checked it yet, drop everything you're doing and go admire that board!

Thanks to Flexerman for those gorgeous shots! More renders (including some with arabic legends) are coming :)

(https://i.imgur.com/t5lNYgO.png)(https://i.imgur.com/z25uxBZ.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/JfhF5Fk.png)(https://i.imgur.com/4CrrHPG.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/2oFpJ0E.png)(https://i.imgur.com/ekVf3Gt.png)



Have a wonderful week!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis (samples arrived) - not changing kits after October 31st
Post by: Cods on Mon, 28 October 2019, 14:59:35
Looks brilliant - I’m in when it goes live!
Title: [IC] KAT Oasis update (Deskmat & Artkey Skeleton Knight)
Post by: JSaintS on Sat, 02 November 2019, 16:21:19
Hello everyone!

Hope everybody is doing fine! I wanted to share with you the design I worked on for the deskmat :) I really like how it turned out and hope you'll like it as well!

(https://i.imgur.com/YdOXSSHh.png)

Here is the first sample request by Kono:
(https://i.imgur.com/uugYsFT.png)

Also wanted to share one the keys Artkey produced for Oasis - it will be given away during the Artkey raffle I'll be holding :)

(https://i.imgur.com/IkzOifIh.jpg)

I'll be sharing the rest of the Artkey keys and some more artisans in the near future! Stay tuned!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: monovertex on Sat, 02 November 2019, 16:22:59
I have been looking for a mat for a while and I have to say that this looks sooo pretty! I’m definitely in.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: ref on Sun, 03 November 2019, 10:25:33
goodjob
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: dvorcol on Tue, 05 November 2019, 21:48:10
Awesome that there is a Colevrak+ kit.  Please consider adding these two keys:
      R3 ]} for Wide mod (works on QWERTY and all alternative layouts except Dvorak).
      R4 ' " for minimal support of programmer's Dvorak.
      R3 non-homing U (*if the Alpha kit contains non-homing F & J).

*One set of F & J in the Alpha kit is labeled "Barred."  Is the other set in the Alpha kit non-homing or scooped?  If scooped, please consider labeling them to avoid any misunderstanding.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: NathanielGoodtimes on Wed, 06 November 2019, 20:40:32
This is amazing, when is this happening?!?!?!!?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: TheUpperStateOfMind on Wed, 06 November 2019, 20:50:28
This is amazing, when is this happening?!?!?!!?
Last I saw the GB is supposed to be this coming February. (Don't quote me on that though, I might be wrong haha)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 07 November 2019, 00:17:03
This is amazing, when is this happening?!?!?!!?

This is coming in February 2020 :) It should be open for a good 5 week to allow people to join with their paycheck from January or February (or both :eyes:) :) Thanks for the support!

This is amazing, when is this happening?!?!?!!?
Last I saw the GB is supposed to be this coming February. (Don't quote me on that though, I might be wrong haha)

You are totally right :D thanks for answering hehe - The date is in the original post but I'll make an announcement closer to the GB to make sure everyone knows :)



quick update while I'm at it:

Samples for novelties and arabic keys have been ordered - a new sample for the deskmat should arrive soon and prices are being worked on! I will also get more renders in a couple of days now (that's being worked on right now)!

Thank you guys for the support!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: NathanielGoodtimes on Fri, 08 November 2019, 11:12:43
Are there any renders involving all three colors i.e. modifiers brown with blue novelties or vise versa?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: EvaoftheIvy on Sat, 09 November 2019, 14:19:08
This is amazing, when is this happening?!?!?!!?

This is coming in February 2020 :) It should be open for a good 5 week to allow people to join with their paycheck from January or February (or both :eyes:) :) Thanks for the support!

This is amazing, when is this happening?!?!?!!?
Last I saw the GB is supposed to be this coming February. (Don't quote me on that though, I might be wrong haha)

You are totally right :D thanks for answering hehe - The date is in the original post but I'll make an announcement closer to the GB to make sure everyone knows :)



quick update while I'm at it:

Samples for novelties and arabic keys have been ordered - a new sample for the deskmat should arrive soon and prices are being worked on! I will also get more renders in a couple of days now (that's being worked on right now)!

Thank you guys for the support!

Samples looking good! Looking forward to it in February :D
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 12 November 2019, 08:59:35
Are there any renders involving all three colors i.e. modifiers brown with blue novelties or vise versa?

Not yet, but I'm getting more renders done, MettalicCharles - Oblotzky and Flex will do that soon (tm)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - more renders (more to come)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 05 December 2019, 04:45:31
Hello everyone!

Things are moving along nicely for the launch in February, we are polishing up the prices, I'm finishing the artisans collab, I'll be getting some more samples soon(TM) and I'm getting more renders done - trying to show as many combos as possible :)

Artkey Medieval Collab - you guys already saw the Skeleton Knight, I'm excited to present to you the rest of our guests straight from Eruvel!

(https://i.imgur.com/loazDBM.jpg)


Here are a couple more renders provided by Flex on the virgo and another board he is working on  :cool: :

(https://i.imgur.com/pdmh9aP.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/hqmeBwD.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/q3YxIbv.png)(https://i.imgur.com/q1nKX1q.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/qU66mhu.png)(https://i.imgur.com/R4xZfTk.png)










Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - more renders (more to come)
Post by: eskimojo on Thu, 05 December 2019, 04:52:49
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qU66mhu.png)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/R4xZfTk.png)

Any chance of the stepped caps lock legend being changed to just "CAPS" instead of the two line "CAPS↵LOCK"?

I don't use stepped caps that often so it's not a big deal to me, but it looks a lot cleaner and more consistent in my opinion.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - more renders (more to come)
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 05 December 2019, 05:06:08
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qU66mhu.png)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/R4xZfTk.png)

Any chance of the stepped caps lock legend being changed to just "CAPS" instead of the two line "CAPS↵LOCK"?

I don't use stepped caps that often so it's not a big deal to me, but it looks a lot cleaner and more consistent in my opinion.

That's something that I had in mind as well, it shouldn't be a problem at all and would look cleaner indeed :) I'll check that with zFrontier :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: dvorcol on Thu, 05 December 2019, 13:39:24
All the KAT row numbers in the Colevrak kit picture are one too large.  Homing should be KAT R2, number row should be KAT R4, etc.  (I think the KAT row numbers are correct in all the other kits.)

Also, I have three Colevrak kit suggestions:

1) All the alpha kits support non-homing, correct?  If yes, please add KAT R2 non-homing U to support non-homing Dvorak.  For all other layouts, non-homing is already supported.

2) Adding KAT R2 ]} (right bracket/right brace) would support Wide mod, which works on all layouts* including QWERTY (*except Dvorak).

3) Adding KAT R1 apostrophe/quote would give minimal support to Programmer's Dvorak.

Anyway, thanks for offering a Colevrak kit at all!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: NathanielGoodtimes on Thu, 05 December 2019, 16:31:14
This just keeps getting better and better!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - Artisans collaboration and some more renders!
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 11 December 2019, 04:49:02
I am super excited to announce that the artisan list grew since the IC was first posted and I have to admit this list looks so damn good! I'm super excited for each and every one of these collabs!

Artkey (https://www.instagram.com/artkey.universe/?hl=en) - The royal delegation will leave Eruvell to venture into the desert, searching for the wealth hidden near the Oasis. Artkey will be producing 5 complete medieval sets! sneak peek:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/IkzOifIh.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/loazDBM.jpg)

Alpha Keycaps (https://www.instagram.com/alphakeycaps/?hl=en) - An oasis attracts many wild animals, amongst which is the Keypora
More
sneak peek:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/m3ZXDj4.png)

Come and get yours!
SUK (https://www.instagram.com/suitedupsuitedup/?hl=en) - Keyporas are not the only animals attracted by the fresh water: Snapjaws have also been seen wandering nearby! Pay close attention, Keybutos are hunting them, you don't want them to see you
Keyforge (https://www.instagram.com/keyforge/?hl=en) - remains of an old civilization long gone, statues in the form of dragons and lions can still be found laying around. Some say you can still find some skulls too.
Bad  (https://www.instagram.com/badch4d/?hl=en)- Ducks and other strange creatures can be seen lurking around when it's too cold in their regions. Badchad will introduce them to you and who knows? You might even adopt one to take home (be warned, don't feed them after midnight)
Coz (https://www.instagram.com/cozkeycaps/?hl=en) - Cos will be producing a couple of keys (amongst which some of his latest NoEsc4pe) and they will be given away during the first week to thank early backers! Prisons over here are top notch, once you're in, you don't come out!
Hello? (https://www.instagram.com/hello__caps/?hl=en) - Hello? might be joining the ranks of the artisan army, show him some love and make it so he **has** to join :D
 Lividity Caps  (https://www.instagram.com/lividitycaps/?hl=en) – Some curse creatures roam the lands surrounding the Oasis, looking for their next victims… will that be you? Excited to add some Puppeteers to the artisans you’ll be able to get along the keyset!
 GSK  (https://www.instagram.com/goldenstar_keycap/?hl=en) – Some fierce hunters have been seen tracking the mysterious creatures lurking in the Oasis, if you travel there, you might encounter them, but be careful! – I’m glad to announce that GSK will be producing some of their finest keys: Velites, Hogzilla, Froggo and… a brand new key (not announced yet!)
 Meika  (https://www.instagram.com/latrialum/?hl=en) – Creatures are not the only magical things you’ll find here, there are also some gorgeous landscapes – You’ll be able to get some gorgeous blanks made by the talented Meika
 Gothcaps  (https://www.instagram.com/gothcaps/?hl=en) – Some symbols have started to appear here and there, on rocks and trees… what do those mean? Why are they appearing? – Join the raffle for the new blanks by Gothcaps to find out 😊 (new design on its way!!)
 HWS  (https://www.instagram.com/hungerworkstudio/?hl=en) – Who knows what more mysteries you’ll encounter on your trip… HWS will help you discover them all! – I’m excited to say Binge accepted to produce some keys for this GB! These will probably come a little after the Oasis GB but will be reserved to GB participants 😊
RAMA (https://www.instagram.com/ramaworks/?hl=en) - RAMA had to be part of this project! They are producing a gold key with the arabian palace novelty infilled with brown enamel.


Also, here are some more renders to show the arabic legends and to show some AZERTY love :D

(https://i.imgur.com/h6Bp9sN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tqmzEeX.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/hAbEKJ5.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: nasp on Wed, 11 December 2019, 20:45:52
Yes, yes, yes! This is looking fantastic. I especially like the deskmat. Gonna be diving in for a lot of kits.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: Joaquox on Fri, 13 December 2019, 02:41:28
I was thinking it looks a bit of with the text mods being eng when the alphas are arabic.

Any chance for icon mods and matching arabic numpad?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 15 December 2019, 15:32:12
Quick Sunday update - I added 3 keys to the Colevrak kit to make it Colevrak +
I also corrected the wrong rows  :D

(https://i.imgur.com/MCUwMox.png)

Enjoy the end of the weekend!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 26 December 2019, 14:17:44

Hello everyone! I hope you are doing well and you had an amazing time with your families and loved ones!

Samples
Round 2 of samples came in! Arabic alphas and Novelties look good  ;D What do you guys think?

(https://i.imgur.com/85wpeh6.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/UBy95XO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HD9oZKH.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/7MNvgBO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bHeZ0ck.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/UPxHaMv.jpg)

Artisans

Super glad to announce that Lo-Ki and GirlyCaps are also joining the lineup! Tokkipee wants to join as well but KAT being a new profile, they need a bit more time to produce sakura blanks, so that will come in the future! :)

Stay tuned for more info on the artisans and giveaways I'll hold during the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: NathanielGoodtimes on Thu, 26 December 2019, 14:48:20
Looks amazing! Take my money!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: bobdenard on Thu, 02 January 2020, 17:11:29
Is it the lighting or do the alphas samples look way too white?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 03 January 2020, 00:25:24
Is it the lighting or do the alphas samples look way too white?

It's 100% the lightning! We're in winter now and because of work I have little to no natural light to take pictures. here is another shot (key at the top has way too much light, but the rest are a better indication)
(https://i.imgur.com/5vqkwVn.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 03 January 2020, 13:39:44
Hello Everyone!

I hope you had a wonderful time with your families and loved ones and I wish you all the best for 2020!

In a little less than a month starts the GB for KAT Oasis, and I wanted to take the time to update you guys on the status of the keyset 😊


GB Date & Vendors

GB will start on January 31st (Friday) and will run for 5 weeks up to March 6th.

Vendors for KAT Oasis are:

(https://i.imgur.com/xb0kM3Z.jpg)
White Conone - Kits: Arabic Alpha | Oasis Modifiers | Oasis Novelties | Liha Spacebar


Prices

This is probably the most important information so here you go! The last column (Unit Count) is literally what it says, it’s the number of units that a kit represents and this is what is counted towards the final MOQ 😊 I’ve also worked with vendors to try and keep the same price for kits that have both an Oasis (blue) and Liha (brown) variant.

↡ Kits\Vendors MyKeyboard (EU) Kono (NA)Deskhero.ca (Canada)zFrontier (Asian)zFrontier (China)DailyClack (Oceania)
Unit Count
Latin Alpha
€31
$29.99
CAD42
$28
¥166
$43.19
49.5u
Arabian Alpha
€31
$29.99
CAD42
$28
¥166
$43.19
49.5u
Blank Alpha
€23
$19.99
CAD28
$21
¥124
$28.79
49.5u
Oasis Modifiers
€64
$54.99
CAD76
$62
¥368
$79.19
98.25u
Oasis Blank Modifiers
€41
$44.99
CAD62
$37
¥220
$64.79
87.25u
Liha Modifiers
€64
$54.99
CAD76
$58
¥345
$79.19
98.25u
Liha Blank Modifiers
€57
$54.99
CAD76
$52
¥309
$79.19
87.25u
Oasis Calculus
€20
$21.99
CAD28
$18
¥107
$28.79
28u
Liha Calculus
€20
$21.99
CAD28
$18
¥107
$28.79
28u
Oasis Spacebar
€13
$17.99
CAD25
$12
¥71
$25.91
28.25u
Liha Spacebar
€19
$19.99
CAD28
$17
¥101
$28.79
28.25u
Accent
€5.50
$9.99
CAD14
$5
¥29
$14.39
8.25u
UK
€10
$12.99
CAD18
$9
¥53
$18.71
14u
International
€36
$34.99
CAD48
$33
¥196
$50.39
55u
Baguette
€22
$22.99
CAD31
$20
¥119
$33.11
34u
Colevrak
€30
$29.99
CAD42
$28
¥166
$43.19
43.5u
CMD
€10
$14.99
CAD21
$9
¥53
$21.59
15u
Oasis 40s
€43
$39.99
CAD55
$40
¥238
$57.59
65.25u
Liha 40s
€43
$39.99
CAD55
$40
¥238
$57.59
65.25u
Oasis Ortho
€26
$24.99
CAD34
$24
¥142
$35.99
39u
Liha Ortho
€26
$24.99
CAD34
$24
¥142
$35.99
39u
Oasis Ergo
€41
$39.99
CAD55
$39
¥232
$57.59
62u
Liha Ergo
€41
$39.99
CAD55
$39
¥232
$57.59
62u
Oasis Novelties
€18
$19.99
CAD28
$17
¥101
$28.79
28.5u
Liha Novelties
€18
$19.99
CAD28
$17
¥101
$28.79
28.5u

(https://i.imgur.com/gYZHfxT.jpg)
White Conone - Kits: Arabic Alpha | Oasis Modifiers | Oasis Novelties | Liha Spacebar


Artisans


I am so excited with the lineup of artisans that are doing a collab for this set=


Raffles for those keys will happen during the GB and after the GB period as some artisans have a busy schedule, but I hope each and everyone of you will find something you love in that list!
Thank  you for reading this

(https://i.imgur.com/GUsRiYk.png)
Brussels - Kits: Latin Alpha | Liha Modifiers | Liha Novelties




Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: dmatx1 on Fri, 03 January 2020, 14:37:25
What is the estimated ship date?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 03 January 2020, 14:40:28
What is the estimated ship date?

That is a good question. I have asked it and will let everyone know as soon as I hear back from zFrontier :) rest assured I already asked ;)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: phinix on Fri, 03 January 2020, 16:05:21
Can you please confirm which of the photos are the closest to real life colors you see with your eyes?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 03 January 2020, 16:19:21
Can you please confirm which of the photos are the closest to real life colors you see with your eyes?

definitely the ones with the deskmat. I know some have some funky alphas (the Brussels keyboars have alphas that are too saturated), but I decided to let those cause the still display the different possibilities with the keyset :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: long_qt_pie on Sat, 04 January 2020, 08:38:59
I just noticed in one of the renders there is a 1.5u [sun] and [palm tree] novelty, but the kits only include the 1.5u palm tree, is there no 1.5u sun?  Also, the novelty kits only include 1x 1.5u novelty of each variant?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: DevJake on Sat, 04 January 2020, 13:23:24
i think i need it
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Sun, 05 January 2020, 12:34:56
I just noticed in one of the renders there is a 1.5u [sun] and [palm tree] novelty, but the kits only include the 1.5u palm tree, is there no 1.5u sun?  Also, the novelty kits only include 1x 1.5u novelty of each variant?

You are totally right. This was one of the first renders I got done for the set and that mistake was made because of me - the kits are indeed as depicted in the kits images, so there is only two 1.5u novelties - sorry for the mistake :(

Some more renders are coming soon :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: phinix on Mon, 06 January 2020, 09:43:07
Can you please confirm which of the photos are the closest to real life colors you see with your eyes?

definitely the ones with the deskmat. I know some have some funky alphas (the Brussels keyboars have alphas that are too saturated), but I decided to let those cause the still display the different possibilities with the keyset :)

So colors on the photo below do not match real live colors as you see them? Are these too bright?

(https://i.imgur.com/1MukVw9.jpg)

As these on photo above and those rendered ones are different, I want to understand what are those colors in reality.
Are they darker like on renders with desk mat or bright like the photo above?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 06 January 2020, 09:56:58
Can you please confirm which of the photos are the closest to real life colors you see with your eyes?

definitely the ones with the deskmat. I know some have some funky alphas (the Brussels keyboars have alphas that are too saturated), but I decided to let those cause the still display the different possibilities with the keyset :)

So colors on the photo below do not match real live colors as you see them? Are these too bright?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1MukVw9.jpg)


As these on photo above and those rendered ones are different, I want to understand what are those colors in reality.
Are they darker like on renders with desk mat or bright like the photo above?

I understand this is a little confusing, and I will make sure to take some more pictures today when I get home with different lightning to show what I mean.

These renders, out of all the ones I had made, represent the best what the samples look like. They are not an exact match to the pictures because lightning does a lot - the picture you linked has been taken with a DSLR on my balcony around 4.00-5.00 PM with some natural light (not sun, just light) so they look cooler/brighter. The modifiers on the white Conone look a little more bright because of the lightning used and because of the white case.

(https://i.imgur.com/tqmzEeX.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/xb0kM3Z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/h6Bp9sN.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/gYZHfxT.jpg)

This picture I linked a couple of days ago was taken with my iPhone on my desk with way less natural light and my desklamp on.

(https://i.imgur.com/5vqkwVn.jpg)

IRL - if we you just forget the sample pics and everything, they look a little warmer/saturated than the picture you are linking, but less so than the Brussels render. Again, I'll take a couple more pictures next to items that I now people have at their home so they can try and compare (can of coke, my silver iPhone, etc.) so you can get a better idea of how it looks.

Hopefully my answer helps a little :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: trabbit on Mon, 06 January 2020, 20:57:48
This looks fantastic. Good luck with GB.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: phinix on Tue, 07 January 2020, 02:38:02
Can you please confirm which of the photos are the closest to real life colors you see with your eyes?

definitely the ones with the deskmat. I know some have some funky alphas (the Brussels keyboars have alphas that are too saturated), but I decided to let those cause the still display the different possibilities with the keyset :)

So colors on the photo below do not match real live colors as you see them? Are these too bright?

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1MukVw9.jpg)


As these on photo above and those rendered ones are different, I want to understand what are those colors in reality.
Are they darker like on renders with desk mat or bright like the photo above?

I understand this is a little confusing, and I will make sure to take some more pictures today when I get home with different lightning to show what I mean.

These renders, out of all the ones I had made, represent the best what the samples look like. They are not an exact match to the pictures because lightning does a lot - the picture you linked has been taken with a DSLR on my balcony around 4.00-5.00 PM with some natural light (not sun, just light) so they look cooler/brighter. The modifiers on the white Conone look a little more bright because of the lightning used and because of the white case.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/tqmzEeX.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/xb0kM3Z.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/h6Bp9sN.jpg)
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gYZHfxT.jpg)

This picture I linked a couple of days ago was taken with my iPhone on my desk with way less natural light and my desklamp on.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5vqkwVn.jpg)


IRL - if we you just forget the sample pics and everything, they look a little warmer/saturated than the picture you are linking, but less so than the Brussels render. Again, I'll take a couple more pictures next to items that I now people have at their home so they can try and compare (can of coke, my silver iPhone, etc.) so you can get a better idea of how it looks.

Hopefully my answer helps a little :)

Cool, thanks for explaining:)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: Bubblegum on Tue, 07 January 2020, 14:28:02
Everything looks fantastic, but out of curiousity, why is there a price difference between the two spacebar kits? Both of them have the same amount of keys. Same goes for Oasis Blank Modifiers and Liha Blank Modifiers also if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 10 January 2020, 09:27:36
What is the estimated ship date?

I got an answer from zFrontier and it looks like the leadtime is between 3 and 5 months - so with the GB finishing up in March, it should ship around june/july - right for the summer :D

Everything looks fantastic, but out of curiousity, why is there a price difference between the two spacebar kits? Both of them have the same amount of keys. Same goes for Oasis Blank Modifiers and Liha Blank Modifiers also if I'm not mistaken.

So sorry for the delayed answer, opened a tab to reply and then forgot - the price difference is caused by the different quotes we got (which I suspect is caused by the different colors). Most kits had under a dollar difference so we could work on the prices to get them identical regardless of the colorway, this was not possible with the spacebar and the blank modifiers kit unfortunately. I hope this helps with your question :)


Here are some more renders and the first pics I share for the Oasis Eldamar! I will be offering a tri-shot Eldamar as well as a bundle of three single shots ones :)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/636579278489780245/663346455099998208/81490565_463641180990091_7638523065906757632_n.png)(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/636579278489780245/663346678471983125/81149200_500229447359306_7461916175358754816_n.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/FNslPjM.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/YhXnVuN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8JBi23C.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/ajcDEGl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UUYVdh8.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Por8tmx.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: Bubblegum on Fri, 10 January 2020, 10:30:29
Everything looks fantastic, but out of curiousity, why is there a price difference between the two spacebar kits? Both of them have the same amount of keys. Same goes for Oasis Blank Modifiers and Liha Blank Modifiers also if I'm not mistaken.

So sorry for the delayed answer, opened a tab to reply and then forgot - the price difference is caused by the different quotes we got (which I suspect is caused by the different colors). Most kits had under a dollar difference so we could work on the prices to get them identical regardless of the colorway, this was not possible with the spacebar and the blank modifiers kit unfortunately. I hope this helps with your question :)


Here are some more renders and the first pics I share for the Oasis Eldamar! I will be offering a tri-shot Eldamar as well as a bundle of three single shots ones :)


Thanks for the reply! Also the green Conone looks yummy :D
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: Waffle0508 on Wed, 15 January 2020, 03:03:17
Hello, as an Arab I have some feedback/ comments I think you would be interested in. ( I just found out about this so sorry for telling you so close to GB)

1) Arabic Keycaps are usually dual legend with English, so the mono legend Arabic will be useless functionally because most people switch between both (although I'm sure the main consumers will not be using Arabic keyboard anyways so you don't have to worry about that :)  )

2) The word Liha is rarely used, it is a very antiquated word. If you want to say wood, I  suggest Khashab (means wood) (خشب) . It makes more sense, (I had to google what Liha meant, and I'm fluent in Arabic, nobody else from my friends knew either)

Overall it is a very nice set and inshallah I will pick up a set.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 15 January 2020, 03:54:09
Hello, as an Arab I have some feedback/ comments I think you would be interested in. ( I just found out about this so sorry for telling you so close to GB)

1) Arabic Keycaps are usually dual legend with English, so the mono legend Arabic will be useless functionally because most people switch between both (although I'm sure the main consumers will not be using Arabic keyboard anyways so you don't have to worry about that :)  )

2) The word Liha is rarely used, it is a very antiquated word. If you want to say wood, I  suggest Khashab (means wood) (خشب) . It makes more sense, (I had to google what Liha meant, and I'm fluent in Arabic, nobody else from my friends knew either)

Overall it is a very nice set and inshallah I will pick up a set.

Thanks a lot for your feedback!

1) I gave priority to form over functionality on this one - I went with mono arabic legend as a) it was a first for zFrontier/keyreative and I didn't want to take any risk (they could have pulled it off w/o any issue I reckon and that's what samples are for) but also, and most importanlty, b) because I prefer the way it looks now (I made a mock up of both and kept finding the dual legends too clutered) - I didn't think this would be a problem since most people (I think) get this type of kit for visual purposes rather than functionality, but this is definitely something I will consider next time :)

2) I have to admit that I am not fluent in arabic, nor do I pretend to be. I wanted a work for "bark" in arabic and found Liha which at the time I thought sounded nice and was pretty short so it was easy to use - considering this is just for the kit names and is not present on any novelties (as opposed to some sets that have word novelties), I will probably keep it (specially since vendors and manufacturer use the term) but this is also something I'll keep in mind for the next set I do - I'll definitely consult someone fluent in arabic :)

Thanks a lot for your feedback!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB in 9 days!!
Post by: JSaintS on Wed, 22 January 2020, 06:04:45
I don't know if you've checked the J-02 IC (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102564.0), but that thing is stellar! Go show some love to Jae!

(https://i.imgur.com/g7IHiiT.jpg)
J-02- Kits: Latin Alpha | Liha Modifiers | Liha Novelties

I'm also working on a couple nice things that will be announced in the next couple of days! Stay tuned guys :)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Mon, 27 January 2020, 13:25:26
Hello everyone!

Nano. slider

This is the last little bit I have to announce :) I've wanted one ever since I first saw them announced and I'm excited to work with the Keebwerk. team for this one :)

(https://i.imgur.com/BfgCT6z.png)(https://i.imgur.com/6lc9C7t.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/u2PFFwm.png)(https://i.imgur.com/CEoIAel.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/BPecgmF.png)

More detail coming soon :D


Artisans

I have been sharing these of the last couple of days on Instagram but I wanted to make a real post about them here as well for those than don't follow me :) I've said it already but I'm blessed to be able to work with so many talented artists!

Artkey

Oasis Medieval Set

(https://i.imgur.com/loazDBM.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/IkzOifIh.jpg)

Alpha

Oasis Keypora

(https://i.imgur.com/m3ZXDj4.png)

Lividity

Oasis and Splatasis Gramps, Puppeteer and Parasyte

(https://i.imgur.com/owDLA4i.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/QqPj5nY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bFe9ShN.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/VYzWAJF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QDSbsvq.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/z6nswxQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZQsm3BW.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/4bfztVO.jpg)

Gothcaps

Oasis Grave Robbers
(https://i.imgur.com/uUI5dL9.jpg)

Ritual Master

Speckled Desert Warbler

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670253642816815104/670291829664645130/20200124103602_IMG_7882.JPG)(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670253642816815104/670291830012641298/20200124103740_IMG_7887.JPG)


Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: Shurakai on Mon, 27 January 2020, 13:35:38
Oh my god. Every bit of that is incredible. The colors aren't really to my taste, but everything you announce makes me second guess that.  Good luck with the sale. Hope you sell a ton of all of it.
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: fax668 on Tue, 28 January 2020, 04:56:00
^^^ What he said! ^^^
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB TOMORROW
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 30 January 2020, 07:28:19
Ahoy!

How is everyone doing?!

Little update pic on two of the artisans:

Alpha

I didn't expect it, but he suprised us with a Matapora in addition to the keypora (I saw the first shots he made of the keypora - they looked gorgeous, he is now tweaking the blue - you'll see the final result soon!)

(https://i.imgur.com/UeC7LKq.jpg)


BAD

Got this pic when I woke up this morning and was super excited! The blue is a little pale and that will be reworked in the final shots, but I love the accents and know the final results will be stellar!

(https://i.imgur.com/vyXkTrB.jpg)

I'm going to submit the GB thread later today for approval and I'll be closing this one as well - keep an eye out for the GB and THANK YOU for the support!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: NathanielGoodtimes on Thu, 30 January 2020, 08:34:36
IS the desk mat going live at the same time as the set?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Thu, 30 January 2020, 11:08:46
IS the desk mat going live at the same time as the set?

Yes! Everything goes live at the same time - the only question is for zFrontier and the deskmat/Nano. since they are on holidays right now and they set the page to automatically launch tomorrow :-)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 31 January 2020, 05:26:20
Whilst I wait for the GB thread to be approved and we wait for the various vendors to push Oasis, here is are two pictures I got from Coz this morning:

close up for details:
(https://i.imgur.com/w6IBVk6.jpg)

picture for colormatching:
(https://i.imgur.com/DIQtPcL.jpg)

1st picture is a bit off and was taken with early morning light, check the second picture for colormatching :)


As Coz confirmed to me earlier today, these will be GIVEN AWAY to GB participants, I'll just ask you to cover shipping - I'll ship worldwide of course :-)
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: monovertex on Fri, 31 January 2020, 05:27:36
I’m so excited for this GB
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: Alpsie on Fri, 31 January 2020, 05:32:55
im waiting for this to go live o  mykeyboard.eu they only seem to have placeholders for some of the kits :S i hope they will get all the kits up

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 31 January 2020, 05:53:25
im waiting for this to go live o  mykeyboard.eu they only seem to have placeholders for some of the kits :S i hope they will get all the kits up

Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

They are on their way to the Swedish Meetup so I suspect it will go live right when they get to their hotel room/airbnb :)

Thanks for the support!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: NathanielGoodtimes on Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:24:29
I have done my civic duty and ordered 282.25‬ units!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:41:15
I'm about to pull the trigger at Kono over here, but I wanted to make sure of something. The alphas are aligned in the center, and the colevrak kit is aligned in the top left corner, at least in the pictures. Certainly they are both aligned the same, right?
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:46:42
I have done my civic duty and ordered 282.25‬ units!

Thank you good sir! <3

I'm about to pull the trigger at Kono over here, but I wanted to make sure of something. The alphas are aligned in the center, and the colevrak kit is aligned in the top left corner, at least in the pictures. Certainly they are both aligned the same, right?

You are 100% right - all legends are centered just like it was with KAT Alpha :) sorry for that, it was on my To-Do list and somehow got crossed off.
Thanks for pointing this out!
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 31 January 2020, 09:52:20
I have done my civic duty and ordered 282.25‬ units!

Thank you good sir! <3

I'm about to pull the trigger at Kono over here, but I wanted to make sure of something. The alphas are aligned in the center, and the colevrak kit is aligned in the top left corner, at least in the pictures. Certainly they are both aligned the same, right?

You are 100% right - all legends are centered just like it was with KAT Alpha :) sorry for that, it was on my To-Do list and somehow got crossed off.
Thanks for pointing this out!
Bless up, cooked the alphas, colevrak, mods, and spacebars
Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Fri, 31 January 2020, 13:13:09
GB thread is live! (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104467.0)

I'm locking this thread :) Thanks everyone for the support!

Title: Re: [IC] KAT Oasis - GB January 31st
Post by: JSaintS on Tue, 04 February 2020, 02:47:46
For those that didn't see it on IG - the Artkey raffle will take place on Friday night (European time), the form will stay opened for 12 hours and will be for GB participants only. No minimum price is set to be illegible, but you'll need an order number.

(https://i.imgur.com/loazDBM.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/IkzOifI.jpg)

۞ Form will last for 12 hours
۞ Time: 11.00 PM CET (type in that time into Google to convert it to your local time)

Two skeleton knights will be given away to lucky winners!

Keys will be shipped during the next week (I intend to have all of these out by wednesday).

Head over to the GB thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104467.0) to further discuss this and for more news on raffles