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fohat.digs:
Although I still believe that President Biden's knowledge and experience would have made him the best choice for President, I understand that he was probably leaking support from young voters - the most important demographic as the future comes at us faster than ever.

My children were raised to understand that being engaged and voting in every election is an imperative, not an option, but they have indicated to me that many of their friends and acquaintances had become disengaged and apathetic. Although the Democratic Party has consistently addressed all of their concerns, it seems like the most recent generations fail to recognize it, or claim that it is "not enough" - as if somebody else is trying to do better.

I have trust that a former Attorney General of the most populous state can block out the noise and focus her energy on defending the foundational principles of our country

to form a more perfect Union
establish Justice
insure domestic Tranquility
provide for the common defence
promote the general Welfare
and secure the Blessings of Liberty

Here is an interesting look at what happened in a smaller country a few years ago.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/harrismania-jacinda-ardern-new-zealand-kamala

noisyturtle:
People keep saying "oh but her foreign policy" which to me is a total moot point.

Have you taken a look around you in the US lately? We need to focus on fixing what is broken here. Now. It has already gotten too bad too quickly.

tp4tissue:
The entire US foreign policy, is kill anyone who disagrees with us. That's never ever changed.

The problem TODAY, is everyone has nukes, so we effectively can't kill anyone, and we don't know how to cope.

chyros:

--- Quote from: fohat.digs on Wed, 24 July 2024, 12:59:07 ---My children were raised to understand that being engaged and voting in every election is an imperative, not an option, but they have indicated to me that many of their friends and acquaintances had become disengaged and apathetic. Although the Democratic Party has consistently addressed all of their concerns, it seems like the most recent generations fail to recognize it, or claim that it is "not enough" - as if somebody else is trying to do better.

--- End quote ---
I've found myself consistently watching and reading less and less news the last few years. everything is so depressing, all the bad news is so overwhelming, and the obstacles we face seem so insurmountable, with seemingly nobody willing to even acknowledge them, and no political party I can really agree with, that I've become numb to it all. So I think I might understand where your children are coming from.

That said, I find topics like this, that give me insight into the perspectives of others, still highly interesting. 


--- Quote from: tp4tissue on Wed, 24 July 2024, 16:37:46 ---The entire US foreign policy, is kill anyone who disagrees with us. That's never ever changed.

The problem TODAY, is everyone has nukes, so we effectively can't kill anyone, and we don't know how to cope.

--- End quote ---
For better or worse, America is the controlling force in the West, and honestly I feel a lot safer because of the protection it provides me.

Despite Trump having completely compromised the entire security of NATO with a single remark, I can't even imagine what would happen if the EU would get into a major conflict with Russia or China or another Eastern power and we didn't have the US' support to rely on. Of course Trump is now actually actively encouraging our enemies to attack us, which is quite terrifying, and really a sign we should become more self-reliant, but it feels like a shame that our combined alliance is falling apart.

tp4tissue:

--- Quote from: chyros on Thu, 25 July 2024, 04:46:41 ---For better or worse, America is the controlling force in the West, and honestly I feel a lot safer because of the protection it provides me.

Despite Trump having completely compromised the entire security of NATO with a single remark, I can't even imagine what would happen if the EU would get into a major conflict with Russia or China or another Eastern power and we didn't have the US' support to rely on. Of course Trump is now actually actively encouraging our enemies to attack us, which is quite terrifying, and really a sign we should become more self-reliant, but it feels like a shame that our combined alliance is falling apart.
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That thinking is PRE- Nuclear.

No nuclear weaponized nation can destroy one another. That is a fact.

Even a nation without Launch-Vehicles, as long as they have nukes, they can initiate nuclear winter ON THEIR OWN. This is deterrence enough such that larger nations can not truly mess with you that much.

Even short of nuclear winter,  a single nuclear power plant is the equivalent of 100,000 to 500,000x Hiroshima bomb worth of radiation.   All they'd have to do, is melt one,  and again, it's Deterrence-enough.


So, in THIS world, where Doomsday Mechanics Exist, the only thing military alliances do is get people killed for NO_GOOD_REASON.

It's unfortunate that human society does not know how to function any other way.

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