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Offline Rik.caffeinated

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[IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:18:36 »
Rikia
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IC CONTENTS

1.DETAILS
2.CURRENT STATUS
3.GALLERY
4.FAQ
5.SPECIAL THANKS
6.UPDATES


Here are links to my IG and Discord so you can follow the project and track updates.
1. DETAILS
Hello I'm Rik - here is the Rikia. Rikia is an Alice style (compatible with existing USB-C Alice PCBs and plates) board designed at the request of a good friend to soothe the pain from a certain failed groupbuy he bought into. The board is top mount and consists of a PC top with either copper or aluminum bottom.

I never intended to offer this board to the public – and I’m still undecided given the cost – but a lot of people have requested it and so I am gauging interest in a public sale. It’s over 10lbs completed. Almost all of that being the absolutely massive slab of copper on the bottom. Exotic materials + low run production is not a recipe for affordable boards, but if enough people love this design I am happy to run it.

Copper (and all metal) prices have risen exorbitantly in the past two years. I designed this board as an homage to the Alice based on the preferences of a friend expecting to pay insane prices for his own vision. It was not designed to be produced efficiently or economically. The price here in the IC reflects this. If there is huge interest in the board I might consider doing a less limited run, but I’m not optimistic in that being feasible.

Kneedeep and I have already been in talks to do a limited-edition patina of the copper or aluminum. We’re thinking 5 pieces to be sold alongside the GB.

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No design will ever be sold without first being prototyped and having it on hand.
I understand that not all boards can function this way and that sometimes the designer cannot afford this route, but it’s a personal belief of mine that ICs should have prototypes long before moving to GB.

2. CURRENT STATUS

I have the prototype on hand it is excellent and I am very satisfied with the quality. The wrist rest felt a little lacking in comparison to the board so I have designed an updated wrist rest with matching weight in a similar aesthetic to the bottom of the board.

2.16 -

I've gone ahead and ordered some aluminum tops, aluminum bottoms (ano and e-white versions) along with more PC tops, a redesigned matching wrist rest with copper weight to try out some new configs.

I'll be sure to post when I receive them and narrow down config options.

Hotswap is also being prototyped by Mechlovin and will be offered if the timeline works out.




3. GALLERY



















4. FAQ 

What's included?
Top and Bottom Case: Copper or Alu Bottom with PC tops (Aluminum top TBD)
Plate: One Plate (Aluminum, Copper, Carbon Fiber, Brass, POM, FR4)
PCB: Mechlovin Alice USB-C
Wrist Rest: PC and copper or aluminum weighted matching wrist rest. Can be taken off for cost savings but it is included in the prices below.

Tentative Pricing:
20 Units: Aluminum Bottom $600 (+shipping)
10-15 Units: Copper Bottom $1,250 (+shipping)
5 Units: Copper (and or) Aluminum Bottom Kneedeep Patina Special-Edition $TBD (+shipping)




Timeline: Q2 GB

Split BS Support? Yes!

Hotswap? Not at this time, but if it's commonly requested in the IC form I am happy to revisit this.

VIA? Yes! And QMK of course.

Link to IC Google Form




5. SPECIAL THANKS


Obby for igniting the desire to design this and funding the entire prototype himself. This board wouldn’t exist without you!
Kneedeep for offering to help with patina!

« Last Edit: Wed, 16 February 2022, 16:38:37 by Rik.caffeinated »

Offline MrMar

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:21:11 »
I’m in.

Offline ObsidianRaid

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:21:28 »
Sold! oh wait...

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:22:06 »
uwu
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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:23:06 »
Looks great! What colour will the aluminium bottom be?

Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:23:57 »
Needs more seems

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:24:32 »
Looking forward to seeing your brand new ice cream machine

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:24:55 »
Does it include ice cream?

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:25:03 »

Offline Rik.caffeinated

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:26:31 »
Looks great! What colour will the aluminium bottom be?

I'm thinking e-white would be nice? But I could also just keep it simple and go black. Open to suggestion on the alu.

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:28:11 »
Looks great! What colour will the aluminium bottom be?

I'm thinking e-white would be nice? But I could also just keep it simple and go black. Open to suggestion on the alu.

Can you do a Charmander red top 

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:28:53 »
That copper looks awesome though probably out of my price range.
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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:30:15 »
Do you get a discount if you're a Rukia GB participant? :P

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:30:48 »
You have my Sword  :cool:
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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:31:59 »
I love Rikia

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:32:26 »
copper

Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:34:28 »
Do you get a discount if you're a Rukia GB participant? :P

Use code MINT CHOCOLATE SCIF at checkout for the discount

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:38:37 »
lovely rik  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:40:09 »
Ill take 3 copper ones please and ty.

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:44:27 »
Still ships before Rukia.

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:48:34 »
What flavor ice cream do you offer? Im thinking of doing stracciatella if you have anything italian or just some strawberry if you're doing just regular stuff.

Offline Yuinth

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:51:35 »
PC - yes
Copper - yes
ice cream - yes

I'm in. Please also add some coffee

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:55:46 »
Ill take 3 copper ones please and ty.

You know you have to pay for those, right Moon?
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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 16:56:47 »
Gib copper board!


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Offline Visionaire

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 17:21:31 »
So nice, Rik. I understand why you'd choose to do a smaller run - given the obvious risks... but I hope you'll find a way to produce more units. I think this is a winner.

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 17:21:54 »
So stoked to be a part of this!! Too bad I already published my scif photos the other day, scuffed scif amirite

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 17:23:02 »
-10 internet points for Rukia memes. lol

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 17:26:36 »
I've said it before and I'll say it again,  i like pizza. 

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 17:34:19 »
I would also like to buy an ice cream machine

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 17:35:38 »
Will the ice cream machine be in a SCIF though?
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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 17:36:27 »
Definitely in.  Board looks great, copper gud.  Kinda hard to tell from the photos but I assume the PC top has threaded inserts?  Any coatings on the copper bottom/plate?  Or is it raw?

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 18:08:50 »
 :p will you be purchasing your own CNC machines with GB funds?  :p

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 18:17:25 »
Do you get a discount if you're a Rukia GB participant? :P

why you gotta do me like this

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 18:34:40 »
WTS Rukia WTB RIKIA   :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Offline Rik.caffeinated

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 19:31:39 »
hello it is 2022 there is absolutely no reason not to be using a custom pcb and daughterboard for a keyboard that expensive

Except, you know, availability of PCBs and future proofing a very expensive product so people can easily acquire PCBs 3-5 years down the line instead of letting the keyboard rot because they can't find a custom PCB anymore...

So nice, Rik. I understand why you'd choose to do a smaller run - given the obvious risks... but I hope you'll find a way to produce more units. I think this is a winner.

Thank you so much Vis! I really wish this could be the inexpensive you know what Alice replacement we all need it to be, but it frankly wasn't designed to be that. I could cut corners and redesign the top and bottom to be easier to machine, but then it would lose some of the magic. That's a lot of the reason why I wasn't convinced of bringing this to GB to begin with. But I got so much response I thought I should at least try to offer something.

Definitely in.  Board looks great, copper gud.  Kinda hard to tell from the photos but I assume the PC top has threaded inserts?  Any coatings on the copper bottom/plate?  Or is it raw?

Bottom is coated! Raw would start to show oils and wear almost immediately otherwise.

I considered doing inserts - both helicoil and threaded inserts - but I chose not to for this design.

On my other board (Serpent65) due to the compression forces from the gasket mount the PC takes a considerable amount of strain when assembling the board.

However, on the Rikia because it is top mount and the bottom is SO much more mass than the top - the threads really don't do a whole lot. The base of the board is extremely stable and the top just slide on. The screws don't do anything to hold it together if I'm honest it could be used pressure fit with half as many screws but I like the aesthetic of the 8 bottom holes.

:p will you be purchasing your own CNC machines with GB funds?  :p

I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any CNC, espresso or icecream machines.

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 20:41:18 »
front height? angle? very curious on the specs for this  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 21:12:10 »
Board looks great and I like that it will be using existing and available plates and PCBs. Means we could manage the cost a bit and not have to grab an extra plate or PCB immediately.

Hoping interest in the PC/copper increases so you might be able to provide more favourable pricing.
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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 22:03:46 »
I like it and the fact that this brings cu bottom option is super cool. I also love the fact that it is using standard alice pcb, I feel it is cool.

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 22:18:10 »
and people keep complaining that designers run too many private GBs lol
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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 22:46:51 »
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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 23:01:25 »
Here's some positivity: I like Rik and I like Rikia. Thank you for considering an IC with the hopes of leading the project to a GB - I for one am looking forward to seeing that happen.

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 11 January 2022, 23:18:42 »
I’ve been lurking and following the Rukia GB since it ran. I had to pass on it due to my lack of soldering experience. I even studied up on the Dune stuff for extras and watched the Discord server. I still hold little hope in that board but I’m glad that a good alternative has come up.

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 12 January 2022, 02:04:43 »
As a participant of Rukia, wish everyone involved good luck with this!
I'd consider joining but couldn't get a refund from jaxx, only have enough to buy two scoops of ice cream
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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 12 January 2022, 05:41:22 »
Checks the date

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 12 January 2022, 07:07:42 »
hi as meber of rukia se chat this keeb seem v. nice. i thinks mb kokalloo just want 2 have nob on back of keeb ??? i thinks mb he say that is wat u need 2 do 2 make dis keeb beter also mb if u hav time u can add apple earpod dock???

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 12 January 2022, 10:16:09 »
Hey everyone, I cleaned this thread up a bit to remove all the toxicity.

Offline Rik.caffeinated

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 12 January 2022, 12:55:24 »
Hey everyone, I cleaned this thread up a bit to remove all the toxicity.
Thanks sir appreciate the assist!

Also for anyone reading - hotswap is now heavily being considered as there has been some progress made on development of that PCB.

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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 12 January 2022, 15:09:15 »
I like this and I definitely hope it's a successful GB for you. If I'm able, I'll definitely participate.
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Re: [IC] Rikia | Copper and PC Alice Style Board
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 12 January 2022, 16:37:42 »
can you post only the bottom piece or an exploded view?  :thumb: