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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES NOW LIVE!!!
« Reply #350 on: Sat, 12 September 2015, 23:29:14 »
Too bad I didn't get more stuff sold so I could buy some of these.

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« Reply #351 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 02:20:44 »
A bit under 3 hours left til Bingecap raffle closes!

Click Clacks are nothing compared to this beauty.  All those key-cap fanatics wanting a unique cap in their collection, better get serious and order some Z Switches now  :thumb: .


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« Reply #352 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 03:39:25 »
How do the 62g springs compare to the ones from originative or GON?

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« Reply #353 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 04:45:32 »
How do the 62g springs compare to the ones from originative or GON?

No comment as I don't have springs from either vendor. However that begs the question, would users really be swapping out the pre-installed 62g gold spring with some other 62g springs? Do remember that due to the smoothness of the slider & housing, many users will find the 65g or 67g to have a closer resemblance of their currant "62g ergo clears".
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« Reply #354 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 04:49:21 »
I feel like I'm the only one who thinks siding on the lighter side of ergo clears is a good thing. :(

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« Reply #355 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 05:02:14 »
I feel like I'm the only one who thinks siding on the lighter side of ergo clears is a good thing. :(

Nothing wrong with having an abnormal preference, the world would be a very boring place if everyone liked the same things :)
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« Reply #356 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 06:20:04 »
I feel like I'm the only one who thinks siding on the lighter side of ergo clears is a good thing. :(

Nothing wrong with having an abnormal preference, the world would be a very boring place if everyone liked the same things :)

YES we are the ABNORMALS because some people love to use Tactile Greys and Greens with such passion simply because we love the feel of them  :thumb: .

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« Reply #357 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 07:34:38 »
I feel like I'm the only one who thinks siding on the lighter side of ergo clears is a good thing. :(

You're not alone. I like light switches also, but want as much tactility as possible. I'm going to be trying all kinds of springs in these, including stock Brown springs.
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« Reply #358 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 08:28:30 »
I feel like I'm the only one who thinks siding on the lighter side of ergo clears is a good thing. :(

You're not alone. I like light switches also, but want as much tactility as possible. I'm going to be trying all kinds of springs in these, including stock Brown springs.

Thank you for giving me company :thumb:

I'm curious on how these would feel with 60g or 55g gold springs. 

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES NOW LIVE!!!
« Reply #359 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 11:24:53 »
I feel like I'm the only one who thinks siding on the lighter side of ergo clears is a good thing. :(

You're not alone. I like light switches also, but want as much tactility as possible. I'm going to be trying all kinds of springs in these, including stock Brown springs.

Thank you for giving me company :thumb:

I'm curious on how these would feel with 60g or 55g gold springs. 

You're not alone. I have a customer that plans on using 55g springs in purple zealios.
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« Reply #360 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 11:43:24 »
A bit under 3 hours left til Bingecap raffle closes!

Good luck to everyone in the raffle and anyone that gets in before the raffle ends.

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« Reply #361 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 14:49:58 »
Unfortunately I've been pretty much ****ed over in my plan to sell my laptop by a guy on reddit, so I don't think I'll be able to get in on this in time. Really disappointed, I hope I can at least get in before the buy ends.
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« Reply #362 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 15:16:45 »

Unfortunately I've been pretty much ****ed over in my plan to sell my laptop by a guy on reddit, so I don't think I'll be able to get in on this in time. Really disappointed, I hope I can at least get in before the buy ends.
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« Reply #363 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 15:20:15 »

Unfortunately I've been pretty much ****ed over in my plan to sell my laptop by a guy on reddit, so I don't think I'll be able to get in on this in time. Really disappointed, I hope I can at least get in before the buy ends.
Have you tried hardware swap
Yeah, I had posted it there originally, just got held out all week by this really high rep guy saying he was going to buy, then he never did. Just reposted today. Fingers crossed.
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« Reply #364 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 15:22:22 »
Too bad I didn't get more stuff sold so I could buy some of these.

Ironic because I almost PM'd you about that Ergo Pro, but decided to use that money for Zealios instead.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES NOW LIVE!!!
« Reply #365 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 15:23:49 »
Too bad I didn't get more stuff sold so I could buy some of these.

Ironic because I almost PM'd you about that Ergo Pro, but decided to use that money for Zealios instead.
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« Reply #366 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 18:25:44 »
Too bad I didn't get more stuff sold so I could buy some of these.

Ironic because I almost PM'd you about that Ergo Pro, but decided to use that money for Zealios instead.
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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES NOW LIVE!!!
« Reply #367 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 23:49:58 »
Since the orders are soft-closing this week, is there any ETA on switches? Just curious :)

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« Reply #368 on: Sun, 13 September 2015, 23:59:53 »
1 last question about the springs, does each variety use the same springs for each weight? So does the 65g purple tact use the same spring as the 65g clean linear?

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« Reply #369 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 00:18:58 »
Since the orders are soft-closing this week, is there any ETA on switches? Just curious :)
Goal is to have switches on hand before end of September.

1 last question about the springs, does each variety use the same springs for each weight? So does the 65g purple tact use the same spring as the 65g clean linear?

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« Reply #370 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 00:49:58 »
Sweet, gonna order a little of everything pick my favourite and order more later  :thumb:

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« Reply #371 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 01:17:58 »
soft-closing this week? Isn't it the end of September? Anyway just ordered :) I didn't use localpickup, cos you must be busy at the time. Thanks Zeal.
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« Reply #372 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 01:52:31 »
soft-closing this week? Isn't it the end of September? Anyway just ordered :) I didn't use localpickup, cos you must be busy at the time. Thanks Zeal.

Soft close was just when raffle closed. I've already placed my order with Gateron, but will still collect orders til the end of the month.

And...as for your delivery address...I'll just walk over next door (mall wise). Pretty awkward moment...haha
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« Reply #373 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 02:06:27 »
soft-closing this week? Isn't it the end of September? Anyway just ordered :) I didn't use localpickup, cos you must be busy at the time. Thanks Zeal.

Soft close was just when raffle closed. I've already placed my order with Gateron, but will still collect orders til the end of the month.

And...as for your delivery address...I'll just walk over next door (mall wise). Pretty awkward moment...haha

Let us all know here who is that LUCKY Devil who has received this unique Cap  8) .

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« Reply #374 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 02:13:40 »
soft-closing this week? Isn't it the end of September? Anyway just ordered :) I didn't use localpickup, cos you must be busy at the time. Thanks Zeal.

Soft close was just when raffle closed. I've already placed my order with Gateron, but will still collect orders til the end of the month.

And...as for your delivery address...I'll just walk over next door (mall wise). Pretty awkward moment...haha

Let us all know here who is that LUCKY Devil who has received this unique Cap  8) .

Can't disclose that as it'll be a silent win til the winners open their Zealio packages. ;)
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« Reply #375 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 02:37:54 »
A bit under 3 hours left til Bingecap raffle closes!

Awesome! Is there any way that I could edit my order to include one 62 and 65g for adding to my switch tester/ testing for future builds? :)

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« Reply #376 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 03:10:18 »
A bit under 3 hours left til Bingecap raffle closes!

Awesome! Is there any way that I could edit my order to include one 62 and 65g for adding to my switch tester/ testing for future builds? :)

Could you please PM me your order #?
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« Reply #377 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 04:22:46 »
I don't know why but this is so much harder a decision than most, probably because of the aussie dollar but would it be a possibility to buy different weighted springs later?

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« Reply #378 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 07:26:32 »
I don't know why but this is so much harder a decision than most, probably because of the aussie dollar but would it be a possibility to buy different weighted springs later?

I don't see why not: http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/18k-gold-plated-springs-100pcs
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« Reply #379 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 07:34:57 »
I don't know why but this is so much harder a decision than most, probably because of the aussie dollar but would it be a possibility to buy different weighted springs later?

I don't see why not: http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/18k-gold-plated-springs-100pcs
Are they sprit springs or the zealios springs? If they're the zealios ones then I'll just add some to my order :thumb:

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« Reply #380 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 08:50:43 »
Can't disclose that as it'll be a silent win til the winners open their Zealio packages. ;)

Sheet, you got me all excited about knowing who the lucky beggar is.

Alas I never selected the box for this key-cap so who ever receives theirs, please post it here so that the whole GH crew can nash their teeth in extreme jealousy  8) .

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« Reply #381 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 11:52:51 »
I don't know why but this is so much harder a decision than most, probably because of the aussie dollar but would it be a possibility to buy different weighted springs later?

I don't see why not: http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/18k-gold-plated-springs-100pcs
Are they sprit springs or the zealios springs? If they're the zealios ones then I'll just add some to my order :thumb:

It's unlikely that I'll have the 62g/65g/67g springs listed on my site after the switches are made. The remaining springs in the above listing are the 100-135g sprit springs.
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« Reply #382 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 13:56:11 »
I don't know why but this is so much harder a decision than most, probably because of the aussie dollar but would it be a possibility to buy different weighted springs later?

I don't see why not: http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/18k-gold-plated-springs-100pcs
Are they sprit springs or the zealios springs? If they're the zealios ones then I'll just add some to my order :thumb:

It's unlikely that I'll have the 62g/65g/67g springs listed on my site after the switches are made. The remaining springs in the above listing are the 100-135g sprit springs.

Many of us are purchasing an assortment of switches, so that we can home in on our own, personal Grail. We won't know what we prefer, until we've had a week, or two of testing under our belts. Please maintain a selection of springs for at least a couple of months, so that we can make adjustments, if necessary.  :thumb:

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« Reply #383 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 14:29:50 »
Do I understand this soft close correctly that now you will order switches according to what people have ordered before the 12th and will consequently send them out when you get them from Gateron?
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« Reply #384 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 15:12:47 »
Do I understand this soft close correctly that now you will order switches according to what people have ordered before the 12th and will consequently send them out when you get them from Gateron?

I've placed a large order, including those that the GB participants have ordered. When I receive the packages, I'll be fulfilling the orders so I don't end up with a huge amount to fulfill at the end of the month.
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« Reply #385 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 15:22:00 »
Do I understand this soft close correctly that now you will order switches according to what people have ordered before the 12th and will consequently send them out when you get them from Gateron?

I've placed a large order, including those that the GB participants have ordered. When I receive the packages, I'll be fulfilling the orders so I don't end up with a huge amount to fulfill at the end of the month.

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« Reply #386 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 16:12:09 »
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And...as for your delivery address...I'll just walk over next door (mall wise). Pretty awkward moment...haha
What? What? I don't expect we're this close  :D
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« Reply #387 on: Mon, 14 September 2015, 19:03:17 »
I've placed a large order, including those that the GB participants have ordered. When I receive the packages, I'll be fulfilling the orders so I don't end up with a huge amount to fulfill at the end of the month.

Neat, finally shall be trying out some Gaterons, need to see what all this fuss is about.......

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« Reply #388 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 15:45:07 »
I'm having trouble finding the picture that is referenced with an LED installed... Could someone point it out to me? I'd like to see how the pins of an RGB LED exit the switch.

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« Reply #389 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 16:00:51 »
I'm having trouble finding the picture that is referenced with an LED installed... Could someone point it out to me? I'd like to see how the pins of an RGB LED exit the switch.

I don't have a picture of the LED in the switch, but it utilizes the same holes that the LED and in-switch diodes use.



and here's a spec sheet for the LED

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« Reply #390 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 17:41:21 »
I'm sorry fi someone already asked this, but will these switches work with normal LED holes as well?
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« Reply #391 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 17:46:27 »

I'm sorry fi someone already asked this, but will these switches work with normal LED holes as well?
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« Reply #392 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 18:27:38 »
I'm having trouble finding the picture that is referenced with an LED installed... Could someone point it out to me? I'd like to see how the pins of an RGB LED exit the switch.
I don't have a picture of the LED in the switch, but it utilizes the same holes that the LED and in-switch diodes use.
*snip*
and here's a spec sheet for the LED
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Oh, it comes with the LED already built in? Or is that the spec sheet for a specific LED that is compatible with the switch?

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« Reply #393 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 18:33:44 »
I'm having trouble finding the picture that is referenced with an LED installed... Could someone point it out to me? I'd like to see how the pins of an RGB LED exit the switch.
I don't have a picture of the LED in the switch, but it utilizes the same holes that the LED and in-switch diodes use.
*snip*
and here's a spec sheet for the LED
*snip*
Oh, it comes with the LED already built in? Or is that the spec sheet for a specific LED that is compatible with the switch?
It doesn't come with any LEDs, that sheet is just for 4 pin RGB LEDs that this switch is designed to work with.
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« Reply #394 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 18:46:12 »
I'm having trouble finding the picture that is referenced with an LED installed... Could someone point it out to me? I'd like to see how the pins of an RGB LED exit the switch.
I don't have a picture of the LED in the switch, but it utilizes the same holes that the LED and in-switch diodes use.
*snip*
and here's a spec sheet for the LED
*snip*
Oh, it comes with the LED already built in? Or is that the spec sheet for a specific LED that is compatible with the switch?
It doesn't come with any LEDs, that sheet is just for 4 pin RGB LEDs that this switch is designed to work with.
Ah, alright, thanks!

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES NOW LIVE!!!
« Reply #395 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 22:03:46 »
I like MX Browns.  I think I prefer the tactility and actuation force of MX Blues but I don't like the click.  MX Blacks are too heavy for my taste.  Which Zealios switch would the people who've tried these recommend to me?  And would you recommend lubing them or not?  Also, is using LEDs more trouble than it's worth for a hand-wired keyboard?

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES NOW LIVE!!!
« Reply #396 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 22:25:09 »
I like MX Browns.  I think I prefer the tactility and actuation force of MX Blues but I don't like the click.  MX Blacks are too heavy for my taste.  Which Zealios switch would the people who've tried these recommend to me?  And would you recommend lubing them or not?  Also, is using LEDs more trouble than it's worth for a hand-wired keyboard?

62g Purple Zealios wouldn't be too far away from the weight of MX Browns. Though 65g and 67g aren't that far away either, however they have their own unique tactile feedback. 65g and 67g Purple Zealios have been the most popular thus far. For reference, MX Blacks have a bottom out force of roughly 78g-80g.

As for lubing, that is completely up to the end user. Are you one to go for 100% every time, or will 85-90% be good enough? Knowing where to properly lube and how much lube to use is also dependent on your personal tastes so you'll just have to try it and see if it's worth your time.

Re: hand wiring, it would definitely complicate things due to the limited space available per row/column. You'll also need to attach resistors to every LED and whatnot.
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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES NOW LIVE!!!
« Reply #397 on: Wed, 16 September 2015, 03:39:35 »
I like MX Browns.  I think I prefer the tactility and actuation force of MX Blues but I don't like the click.  MX Blacks are too heavy for my taste.  Which Zealios switch would the people who've tried these recommend to me?  And would you recommend lubing them or not?  Also, is using LEDs more trouble than it's worth for a hand-wired keyboard?

For backlight, you might consider using Enabler (or similar) PCBs.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES NOW LIVE!!!
« Reply #398 on: Wed, 16 September 2015, 06:08:26 »
I like MX Browns.  I think I prefer the tactility and actuation force of MX Blues but I don't like the click.  MX Blacks are too heavy for my taste.  Which Zealios switch would the people who've tried these recommend to me?  And would you recommend lubing them or not?  Also, is using LEDs more trouble than it's worth for a hand-wired keyboard?

62g Purple Zealios wouldn't be too far away from the weight of MX Browns. Though 65g and 67g aren't that far away either, however they have their own unique tactile feedback. 65g and 67g Purple Zealios have been the most popular thus far. For reference, MX Blacks have a bottom out force of roughly 78g-80g.

As for lubing, that is completely up to the end user. Are you one to go for 100% every time, or will 85-90% be good enough? Knowing where to properly lube and how much lube to use is also dependent on your personal tastes so you'll just have to try it and see if it's worth your time.

Re: hand wiring, it would definitely complicate things due to the limited space available per row/column. You'll also need to attach resistors to every LED and whatnot.

Dumb question,  how are 65's compared to MX clears?  I find clears a little too heavy for long distance typing,  but could be heavier than MX Browns.

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Re: [GB] PURPLE/CLEAR ZEALIO SWITCHES NOW LIVE!!!
« Reply #399 on: Wed, 16 September 2015, 11:40:28 »
I like MX Browns.  I think I prefer the tactility and actuation force of MX Blues but I don't like the click.  MX Blacks are too heavy for my taste.  Which Zealios switch would the people who've tried these recommend to me?  And would you recommend lubing them or not?  Also, is using LEDs more trouble than it's worth for a hand-wired keyboard?

62g Purple Zealios wouldn't be too far away from the weight of MX Browns. Though 65g and 67g aren't that far away either, however they have their own unique tactile feedback. 65g and 67g Purple Zealios have been the most popular thus far. For reference, MX Blacks have a bottom out force of roughly 78g-80g.

As for lubing, that is completely up to the end user. Are you one to go for 100% every time, or will 85-90% be good enough? Knowing where to properly lube and how much lube to use is also dependent on your personal tastes so you'll just have to try it and see if it's worth your time.

Re: hand wiring, it would definitely complicate things due to the limited space available per row/column. You'll also need to attach resistors to every LED and whatnot.

Dumb question,  how are 65's compared to MX clears?  I find clears a little too heavy for long distance typing,  but could be heavier than MX Browns.

Thanks

65g Purple Zealios are what I consider to be the "perfect" ergo-clear switch. Nice, drawn out tactile bump. However this is my own personal opinion, and to each their own. :))
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