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Renders look ridiculous
It was meant in a positive way LOLRenders look ridiculous
I think they are pretty decent considering that they are the result of his firt approach with render
It was meant in a positive way LOLRenders look ridiculous
I think they are pretty decent considering that they are the result of his firt approach with render
You might wanna fix the renders for the base kit. You have 'F', 'G', and '5' as the barred homing keys instead of 'F', 'J, and' 5'Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200426/47ecc786eb73030f39db1bab4d1cec45.jpg)
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Definitely not into the colorscheme but novelties are cool and really fit the theme.
Why 2 B in the base kit? and not into the 40kit? as in the alice layout you need those spacebars.
Definitely not into the colorscheme but novelties are cool and really fit the theme.
Why 2 B in the base kit? and not into the 40kit? as in the alice layout you need those spacebars.
If i did the math right, you can put the base kit on the Alice layout by using shifts instead of spacebars :)
For any questions i am here! I am just working on more renders with different lights temperature!
Definitely not into the colorscheme but novelties are cool and really fit the theme.
Why 2 B in the base kit? and not into the 40kit? as in the alice layout you need those spacebars.
If i did the math right, you can put the base kit on the Alice layout by using shifts instead of spacebars :)
With this logic you can replace the second B with any non used R4 1U key :-X
Definitely not into the colorscheme but novelties are cool and really fit the theme.
Why 2 B in the base kit? and not into the 40kit? as in the alice layout you need those spacebars.
If i did the math right, you can put the base kit on the Alice layout by using shifts instead of spacebars :)
For any questions i am here! I am just working on more renders with different lights temperature!
With this logic you can replace the second B with any non used R4 1U key :-X
i'm into the keyset because of inspirations and references but... colors. What?
Also see in the forties 1.5U Enter key but no 1.5U Tab key. As owner of forty board with uncommon staggering I would like to see 1.5U R3 Tab key in this kit.
I am all in for advice about the 40s kit! I know there are a lot of layouts and i am not really in ortho/40s keyboards. Can you send me a KLE layout or just a pic of your keyboard?I own Pearl keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92259.0).
I am all in for advice about the 40s kit! I know there are a lot of layouts and i am not really in ortho/40s keyboards. Can you send me a KLE layout or just a pic of your keyboard?I own Pearl keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92259.0).
Also I want to discuss the colors.
Why did you choose such horrendous and disgusting color palette (in the context of art and especially Kandinskij) for the set? Why black and violet if suprematists didn't use this colors? So your inspiration and references I see only in novelties. I really into suprematism and neoplasticism. And, for example, GMK Mondrian (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86616.0) made it better. I really feel his works thorugh the set. But there's no such vibe through the main part of the set, the colors.
The colors. If I wanted interesting black'n violet set, I would like to buy GMK Rouge, for example. It's interesting set with colors in the spirit of it. But such color combination in this set is hard no for me.
I think he is free to choose any colore he wants, Avant-guard is an art movement, not a simple palette
I think he is free to choose any colore he wants, Avant-guard is an art movement, not a simple palette
It doesn't answer why this colors were chosen.
I much love the idea behind the set and everything here. Novelties (but it's subject to discuss, for me they're quite straightforward), deskmats, kits' content, ever T-Shirts. Except colors.
Maybe designer decided to choose this colors after Kandinskij's theory of color (http://sonnetsincolour.org/2015/07/kandinsky-on-the-inner-meanings-of-colours/). But... I don't know. I don't want to fill in the blanks.
I see the base kit and try to think is there any background behind this palette what can explain the choice. I try to see any reference in base kit and don't get them.
It's really frustrate felling about the colors.
Wow man those novelties and deskmats are awesome! And the renders are insane, keep it up :D
I am all in for advice about the 40s kit! I know there are a lot of layouts and i am not really in ortho/40s keyboards. Can you send me a KLE layout or just a pic of your keyboard?I own Pearl keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92259.0).
Also I want to discuss the colors.
Why did you choose such horrendous and disgusting color palette (in the context of art and especially Kandinskij) for the set? Why black and violet if suprematists didn't use this colors? So your inspiration and references I see only in novelties. I really into suprematism and neoplasticism. And, for example, GMK Mondrian (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86616.0) made it better. I really feel his works thorugh the set. But there's no such vibe through the main part of the set, the colors.
The colors. If I wanted interesting black'n violet set, I would like to buy GMK Rouge, for example. It's interesting set with colors in the spirit of it. But such color combination in this set is hard no for me.
I think he is free to choose any colore he wants, Avant-guard is an art movement, not a simple palette
I don’t love the keyset but I do love the mats and tshirts!
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What's the dark grey color? How does it compare to CR black or N9 grey?
What's the dark grey color? How does it compare to CR black or N9 grey?
The alpha and mod colors are more like Gmk Dracula mods! A really dark gray with a indigo bluish tone.
I am going to post the color palette anyway!
Wow man those novelties and deskmats are awesome! And the renders are insane, keep it up :DI am all in for advice about the 40s kit! I know there are a lot of layouts and i am not really in ortho/40s keyboards. Can you send me a KLE layout or just a pic of your keyboard?I own Pearl keyboard (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92259.0).
Also I want to discuss the colors.
Why did you choose such horrendous and disgusting color palette (in the context of art and especially Kandinskij) for the set? Why black and violet if suprematists didn't use this colors? So your inspiration and references I see only in novelties. I really into suprematism and neoplasticism. And, for example, GMK Mondrian (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86616.0) made it better. I really feel his works thorugh the set. But there's no such vibe through the main part of the set, the colors.
The colors. If I wanted interesting black'n violet set, I would like to buy GMK Rouge, for example. It's interesting set with colors in the spirit of it. But such color combination in this set is hard no for me.
I think he is free to choose any colore he wants, Avant-guard is an art movement, not a simple palette
Ok guys i think i have to address some valid points!
I take note of your considerations which I respect but do not agree with.
Like you other people have pointed out the lack of correspondence between the palette used and the reference shown: I want to clarify that we were inspired by the general work of Kandinskij by studying his symbolism and traits. We found those were very interesting for us to use in the novelties: "modernity and minimalism suitable for product needs such as a keyboard".
We wanted to give our concept a more personal interpretation by using a palette oriented towards the tech world, always keeping in mind our targets and marketing purposes.
I close my message by saying that as a community and as designers we cannot limit ourselves to mathematically translating what we see into keyset concepts. By doing this we will make a run on who chose the best theme or pic or palette first. By saying this i want to answer to all the critics about the palette choice: if we stop using hues already used in other sets, we can stop doing keysets. The color psychology and its principles is not changing anytime soon and so the Itten Wheel.
EDIT: i am not a native speaker, so pardon me for every error i made! I don't want to sound "harsh", this is just the way we worked out the design of the set :)
Maybe we had to clarify this on the OP!
I recognize I may be beating a dead horse here a bit (all pun intended) given the criticisms that other individuals have pointed out already but there are a few issues I see with 'theme/design':
1. Avant Garde isn't an art movement Kandinsky is associated with. Kandinsky was much more well known for his German Expressionist style works.
2. Of these works, and works in the same vein as his later period which he is more known for, none of which share this color palette as his primary basis. Most of them are at least colors "on white" (A second art pun in the same response)
3. Nothing about German Expressionism was centered around minimalism nor a simplification of the reality of things. In fact, this feels almost an opposite of the concept of expressionism.
4. Basing a set on a famous German Expressionist and *not* including a horse novelty is at the least just further strengthening the disconnect between this and the "source inspiration"
5. In Kandinsky's own words, which you quoted in the original post, "Art goes beyond the limits in which time would like to compress it, and indicates the content in the future". How "minimalism and modernity" is drawn out of that quote into the novelties baffles me further.
The actual color palette of the set is fine if not a bit boring, but seriously just take down the reference painting at this point. It is just going to cause issues because you can't claim that was the source of inspiration when the palette isn't even close to similar.
Most of the issues people are expressing are because you claim inspiration from one thing but there is no way anyone would ever see that if you didn't claim it.
The deskmats are dope though.
Great concept. Amazing renders. Cool extras!
I really like the novelties. Glad to see 2x2u & 4x1u R4C keycaps in the ortho/40s kit!
I'm so into this set!! I hope it makes it to the GB stage so it can become my first GMK set!!
Thank you!
UPDATE:
Updated the OP with new renders and the color comparison with violet tendencies
More to come!
I am getting some feedbacks about people wanting more pink/magenta in the base set and novelties. I am making some changes so you all can let me know if you would like some modifications to the kits!
Thank you!
UPDATE:
Updated the OP with new renders and the color comparison with violet tendencies
More to come!
I am getting some feedbacks about people wanting more pink/magenta in the base set and novelties. I am making some changes so you all can let me know if you would like some modifications to the kits!
Just some advice:
You should show a few more renders of the set on keyboards in more neutral colors because that is what most people are going to use this set on.
Showing a keycap set on a bright glossy pink board takes away the viewers attention from the actual subject of the render (the keycaps) because the board itself is way too dominant in the picture.
A dark gray, silver or white board would work much better and would show the keycaps in a more realistic environment.
Gotcha ;)
The alice like is white/silver and black, the u80 is "dark" - i just wanted to give some examples with matched colors!
Anyway, here you go:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Tp9cKYS.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zzH5j2b.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kfSpipi.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eKxDVaV.png)
Anyway, here you go:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Tp9cKYS.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zzH5j2b.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kfSpipi.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/eKxDVaV.png)
I am not sure why to compare this to Violet Tendencies, since this set is GMK Nightshade
The only difference is colored number row and mono colored alphas and mods
In my opinion, these differences are very minor if we look at the whole sets
Moreover, Nightshade is set to gropbuy this June
GMK Nightshade - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102474
I am not sure why to compare this to Violet Tendencies, since this set is GMK NightshadeIt doesen't look at all like nightshade
The only difference is colored number row and mono colored alphas and mods
In my opinion, these differences are very minor if we look at the whole sets
Moreover, Nightshade is set to gropbuy this June
GMK Nightshade - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102474
I think more pink and white caps (such as the white deskmat looks) would be a great addition, maybe as an extra kit so that you can combine it.
Base KitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/oMKPFaL.jpg)
SpacebarsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/AHXkle6.jpg)
40s KitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/VVsuZhY.jpg)
I fixed the base kit, adding full support to 96 and 1800 keyboards, swapping iso keys and adding the loved magenta accent:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FrRIYap.jpg)
The kit, as it stands now, has one key from the terminal style (R4 <>) and one from either UK-intended set (R3 #~). I would suggest going with the terminal style; another option is to do what a couple sets have done and use:
- "Appeasement ISO": R3 #~, \|; R4 \| (three keys instead of two). This would cover "partial British" and "US, PC style" at the same time.
I fixed the base kit, adding full support to 96 and 1800 keyboards, swapping iso keys and adding the loved magenta accent:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FrRIYap.jpg)
I don't mean to be a prick, but the change in the "ISO alphas" keys has taken a turn for the worse. In the initial kit, you had R3 \| and R4 \|, but you now have R3 <> and R4 #~, which is... incorrect in all lights. I'll detail:
In a nutshell, "ISO alphas":
- English (US), terminal style: R3 \|; R4 <>.
- English (US), PC style: R3 \|; R4 \| (this was what the initial kit had).
- (Full) English (UK): R1 `¬¦, 2", 3£, 4$€; R3 '@, #~; R4 \|.
- English (UK+US): R1 `¬¦, 2", 3£, 4$€; R3 '@, #~, \|; R4 \|.
- "Partial British support" (or "Atlantis ISO", although that term is now forbidden): R3 #~; R4 \|.
The kit, as it stands now, has one key from the terminal style (R4 <>) and one from either UK-intended set (R3 #~). I would suggest going with the terminal style; another option is to do what a couple sets have done and use:
- "Appeasement ISO": R3 #~, \|; R4 \| (three keys instead of two). This would cover "partial British" and "US, PC style" at the same time.
The kit, as it stands now, has one key from the terminal style (R4 <>) and one from either UK-intended set (R3 #~). I would suggest going with the terminal style; another option is to do what a couple sets have done and use:
- "Appeasement ISO": R3 #~, \|; R4 \| (three keys instead of two). This would cover "partial British" and "US, PC style" at the same time.
+1 for terminal (R3 \|, R4 <>).
There are some usage stats here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vyY5EjTfzo6YXp_xwQYN_ffcoB0fXdNl8nc0WDteobs/edit?usp=sharing). It turns out that the R4 <> key is more common than all of those other keys (R3 #~, \|; R4 \|), so I would definitely keep it, just update the R3 key to \| to be in line with terminal style.
Is it too much if we ask for Alternativo with numrows? So we can still use it in a different layout/set? =)
The white Add-on kit looks cool and gives the set a different look.
What if you add that in base.. and have the numrow highlights in a separate kit or in the alternativo? 🙂
The dark numrow could be put in the Alternativo kit too. I just need feedbacks and number to follow up so i can get quotes from GMK :)
The white Add-on kit looks cool and gives the set a different look.
Thank you! A lot of people asked for this in the IC Form and after a bit of looking at the set with white alpha, i liked it actually :)
The second more requested "feature" is a dark number row. I could add it to the base kit but it would be really big with all that keys.
What do you guys say?
This is a render of it:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yhRMbNr.png)
I updated the IC Form so if you guys want this kit in the base or as an extra just let me know!
The white Add-on kit looks cool and gives the set a different look.
Thank you! A lot of people asked for this in the IC Form and after a bit of looking at the set with white alpha, i liked it actually :)
The second more requested "feature" is a dark number row. I could add it to the base kit but it would be really big with all that keys.
What do you guys say?
This is a render of it:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yhRMbNr.png)
I updated the IC Form so if you guys want this kit in the base or as an extra just let me know!
If you don't want to push up the costs for the base set, I would not add it. But it depends on how many people are really interested in that also. Or you could add those in a different kit?
But I must say that it looks nice.
is it possible to add another 2u convex space to the 40s kit? 2x2u space is a thing in ortho world (planck, preonic, boardwalk, etc).
is it possible to add another 2u convex space to the 40s kit? 2x2u space is a thing in ortho world (planck, preonic, boardwalk, etc).
I dropped the second 2u for the two 1.75u but really i can put it back and leave the two 1u indacus spacebars. I think it's better having all the purple spacebars in the spacebar kit anyway!
I am going to update the OP with the fix!
Fyi, only the following few 40% keyboards use 1.75u spacebars: Vortex Core (×1), Daisy (×1), JD40/45 (×2). This means that only a single keyboard uses two 1.75u bars. Imo, it's not worth including the second 1.75u key for this reason. I'd even go so far as to say that 1.75u bars aren't worth including at all.
As for the spacebar kit, I believe I've said this earlier, but four 6u spacebars is way too much (and I say that as a regular 6u spacebar user). You need one or, at most, two. Keep the centered and off-centered stem alpha-colored ones, and drop the rest.
I love the deskmats!
This post is confusing.
The artwork in the post threw me off because I assumed I would see colorway renders to match it.
After reading the post, technology is actually what inspired the colorway. Which now makes sense because it reminds me of Discord.
the numbering of rows for alternativo is confusing.. numrows is r1 and qwerty should be r2, isn't it? Asdf is r3 and others down, r4..
You can drop the 1.75u spacebar from the 40s kit. The only 40% that I know of which uses a 1.75u spacebar is the JD45 and it needs two of them. It is also not a super common 40%.
Edit: same with the spacebars kit.
Edit2: looks like Konstantin already raised this point a few posts above me.
What do you guys think?
Thank you for all you advices anyway :cool:
Man this set is beautiful. It has purple so I approve.
2021 GB? :3
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What do you guys think?
Thank you for all you advices anyway :cool:
thank you for adding the second 2u space! just to be sure those 2u spaces are all convex ones, right?
for me this is the best set of 2020 so i’m gonna definitely buy it.
You can drop the 1.75u spacebar from the 40s kit. The only 40% that I know of which uses a 1.75u spacebar is the JD45 and it needs two of them. It is also not a super common 40%.
Edit: same with the spacebars kit.
Edit2: looks like Konstantin already raised this point a few posts above me.
I've put one 1.75 spacebar in the 40s and one in the spacebars but i guess is not cheap as an option.
I mean if it's only for one or two keys i can add it to the 40s, it shouldn't be a problem price wise.
This should be correct:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FDqxzMt.jpg)
What do you guys think?
Thank you for all you advices anyway :cool:
You can drop the 1.75u spacebar from the 40s kit. The only 40% that I know of which uses a 1.75u spacebar is the JD45 and it needs two of them. It is also not a super common 40%.
Edit: same with the spacebars kit.
Edit2: looks like Konstantin already raised this point a few posts above me.
I've put one 1.75 spacebar in the 40s and one in the spacebars but i guess is not cheap as an option.
I mean if it's only for one or two keys i can add it to the 40s, it shouldn't be a problem price wise.
This should be correct:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/FDqxzMt.jpg)
What do you guys think?
Thank you for all you advices anyway :cool:
He's saying that you shouldn't include 1.75u at all, which I agree with, let alone include two of them. It's so rare that probably none of the people who buy this set are going to use that key. It also definitely shouldn't be included in the spacebars kit, since only 40% boards use it.
I would suggest removing it from the spacebars kit, removing the second one from the 40s kit, and if you really want to include one, you can keep one (and only one) in the 40s kit. Even then I'd argue that it isn't for covering existing boards, but rather for future-proofing the set against new boards that might come out using a 1.75u space.
Jajajaja I need this set. Just keep it for 2021 and I’ll have a job and get a couple. :3Man this set is beautiful. It has purple so I approve.
2021 GB? :3
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Well, if number stacks up why not?
I am working on some more perks!What do you guys think?
Thank you for all you advices anyway :cool:
thank you for adding the second 2u space! just to be sure those 2u spaces are all convex ones, right?
for me this is the best set of 2020 so i’m gonna definitely buy it.
Sure, convex 2u spaces. I think having a "complete" 40s is better even if more expensive.
Thank you for your support
First of all, thanks for the love guys :-*
Based on the suggestions here i reworked the 40s and the spacebar kit:
40 per 100
- dropped support for 1.75u spacebars;
- added preonic and planck magenta esc and magenta enter - Thanks to gex to address this on Discord!;
Linee
- dropped support for 1.75u indacus spacebar;
Here are the kits, going to update the OP soonShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/EXfdJq3.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QEVlKpv.jpg)
EDIT:
I need numbers on the IC Form! Let me know if you have any suggestions or what you would buy or not!
I've updated the IC with a question about the dark numrow in the base, alternativo or extra kit.
You may want to include a 1.25u space key as well. It's commonly used when splitting space (e.g. 6.25u → 2.75u+1.25u+2.25u), in Alice layouts etc.
Despite the fact that R4 enter and R3 esc are the “default” layout options for Planck and preonic, it is not the popular placement for those keys. Most Planck and preonic users (that I know anyway) still use esc on R2 and enter on R3.
In my opinion, you should drop the magenta accent keys altogether. This is a worthwhile change to keep prices reasonable for the 40% community.
Edit:
The other thing to bear in mind is that folks who do purchase the 40% kit may not have Planck or preonic in mind. Meaning there is even less reason to include accented keys for the default layout for two specific keyboards.
For example, those accented keys won’t work with a prime_e or a minivan.
You may want to include a 1.25u space key as well. It's commonly used when splitting space (e.g. 6.25u → 2.75u+1.25u+2.25u), in Alice layouts etc.
Gotcha
Despite the fact that R4 enter and R3 esc are the “default” layout options for Planck and preonic, it is not the popular placement for those keys. Most Planck and preonic users (that I know anyway) still use esc on R2 and enter on R3.
In my opinion, you should drop the magenta accent keys altogether. This is a worthwhile change to keep prices reasonable for the 40% community.
Edit:
The other thing to bear in mind is that folks who do purchase the 40% kit may not have Planck or preonic in mind. Meaning there is even less reason to include accented keys for the default layout for two specific keyboards.
For example, those accented keys won’t work with a prime_e or a minivan.
I know but i can't give support to specific layouts for specific keyboards so having only two accent keys for the most popular ortho keebs out there it's kinda fair i guess! For all the others, there are the indacus keys :)
The minivan can work with the ESC accent, am i wrong?
It does not make sense to include magenta accents for basically just Planck users, so you should remove magenta accents altogether to make this kit as cheap as possible.
The minivan uses a R2 esc (not R3).
ZF,please,zf is cheaper and faster
I love the colours! The keycaps themselves don't really work for me, but I'll grab one of the dark deskmats for sure :D
Purple and green set when?
I like your concept better :). Plus, Mecha-01 doesn't have latin-only alphas for me :(.Purple and green set when?
There's GMK Mecha-01 live right now :)
The one you see in the render is just a concept for these images!
Ahh the criticism a designer has to endure.... beautiful set @Raz. Great inspiration point, soft color selection. I’m in. Would look great on a RAMA KARA. Think I might.
Really love the colorway, not a huge fan of the monochromatic alphas and mods; would be hard to pass on a base kit with the Alternativo alphas in it, but my opinion.
Regardless, I'm in for a deskmat or 2!
I think if you're considering an extra kit for a dark number row, it might be worth rearranging kits so that the base kit has the dark number row and the Alternativo kit has a purple number row and potentially purple modifiers. However, this would of course take away the beautiful colour contrast in the base kit. Purple modifiers are something I'd be interested in, in any form.
I'd love to see a render of this keycap set on top of the NK65 Entry Edition (Purple)
Ahh the criticism a designer has to endure.... beautiful set @Raz. Great inspiration point, soft color selection. I’m in. Would look great on a RAMA KARA. Think I might.
Delicious. Waiting for the US proxy. Do we have a timeline on the release dates?
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No worries. I will wait for this to put on the alpine65 pc that I hopefully get lolDelicious. Waiting for the US proxy. Do we have a timeline on the release dates?
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Thanks man! Not yet! I am getting some time to fix the kits and I have to remake the legends (not centered cause I don't really like them like this!). I am a bit slowed down by the summer season :)
The white Add-on kit looks cool and gives the set a different look.
Thank you! A lot of people asked for this in the IC Form and after a bit of looking at the set with white alpha, i liked it actually :)
The second more requested "feature" is a dark number row. I could add it to the base kit but it would be really big with all that keys.
What do you guys say?
This is a render of it:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/yhRMbNr.png)
I updated the IC Form so if you guys want this kit in the base or as an extra just let me know!
What's your choice between OG top left aligned icon mods and centered aligned icon mods? In the first renders they seem centered, while in the last ones they are OG.
Bella l'idea delle magliette e stupendi i tappetini comunque. Mi fa piacere vedere qualche collega italiano in giro da queste parti :thumb:
Will the dark R2 in the addon kit include 1u pipe key and delete for split backspace?
Will the dark R2 in the addon kit include 1u pipe key and delete for split backspace?
Sorry for the late reply, but yes! i am still in the process of reworking a bit the set. I will post updates for sure. I am a bit more active on Discord (posting renders and stuff) if you want real time updates :)
you're right, here you go: https://discord.gg/MrdRDzyWill the dark R2 in the addon kit include 1u pipe key and delete for split backspace?
Sorry for the late reply, but yes! i am still in the process of reworking a bit the set. I will post updates for sure. I am a bit more active on Discord (posting renders and stuff) if you want real time updates :)
Discord link comes up as invalid?
Would really like to buy this, but can you consider having a base kit for the alternativo white? I really want the white alphas with dark mods but don't want to spend an extra 100+ on the base and alternativo, would also get the novelties tok
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OK... Worth asking, I'll buy the base anyways, nice set! Love the black and purple comboyou're right, here you go: https://discord.gg/MrdRDzyWill the dark R2 in the addon kit include 1u pipe key and delete for split backspace?
Sorry for the late reply, but yes! i am still in the process of reworking a bit the set. I will post updates for sure. I am a bit more active on Discord (posting renders and stuff) if you want real time updates :)
Discord link comes up as invalid?Would really like to buy this, but can you consider having a base kit for the alternativo white? I really want the white alphas with dark mods but don't want to spend an extra 100+ on the base and alternativo, would also get the novelties tok
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sorry man we can't have two base kit :(
Do we already know more about the expected date for the GB to launch?
I don't know man, this looks so similar to GMK Mashu... :rolleyes:
I don't know man, this looks so similar to GMK Mashu... :rolleyes:
Yeah a friend linked me the IC, pretty similar palette ngl but hey, I don't own these colors!
So! This is the last update guys!
We have new kits, new renders and all the vendors listed here. I'm going to make the GB post soon with pricess and all of that :D
A summary of the finalized kits:
NEW KITS!
So! This is the last update guys!
We have new kits, new renders and all the vendors listed here. I'm going to make the GB post soon with pricess and all of that :D
A summary of the finalized kits:
NEW KITS!
I don't agree with making such large kitting changes (completely changing the structure of the kits) right before the GB. This doesn't give you any time to gather feedback from users, and it gives potential buyers no time to react to the changes and voice their thoughts. If I'm being honest, this feels very rushed.
That being said, as it stands, your current kitting has some issues. I'm not sure what you can do at this point, but I'm going to give you a list of these issues so that at least you're aware of them.MoreBase kit (Minimalistico)
- Your base kit render is showing a duplicate F7 key and is missing an F12, but I assume that's a rendering error.
- Other than that, your base kit is missing R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, which are popular options on modern 65% and 75% boards (you even show them in (https://i.imgur.com/VOma5MA.jpg) your (https://i.imgur.com/TtIWZaZ.jpg) renders (https://i.imgur.com/NKGrkPG.png)); yet it includes a stepped R3 1.75u Control key, which is a lot less commonly used and isn't included in almost any GMK base kits nowadays.
R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn are also the default setup on Tada68, which you explicitly claim to support in the “compatibility check” section of the image.
If you aren't including R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn because they can be covered with novelties, then you shouldn't really include 1.5u Super keys either for the same reason.- Speaking of 1.5u Super, your base kit is missing a second R4 1u Alt key, which is necessary in order for the 1.5u Super keys to be usable.
- The base kit is also missing an R4 1.25u Fn key, which is used on every board size from 40s all the way up to full size. In its place is a Menu key, which isn't really a fitting replacement for Fn (Fn being the more popular option). Menu is truly useful only for TKL and full-size boards (mostly OEM ones) that have an actual context menu key (in which case Fn actually is a good replacement for that). Outside of those, most people prefer to use 1.25u Fn. Because of this, Menu should have been changed to Fn or Meta.
- I personally think the purple Enter accent doesn't make sense unless it's combined with the Striscia kit, so I think this key should have been moved to the Striscia kit.
- An optional addition that some users like and that many base kits are including nowadays is F13.
Alphas kit (Alternativo)
- R1 1u \| is missing, which makes it impossible to cover split backspace keyboards (including all HHKB variants) with white alphas.
Numpad kit (Milleottocento)
- The R1 1u Delete key is a duplicate since there is one already included in the base kit.
- It's unclear if the 5 key is homing or not. If it's supposed to be scooped, then the barred variant should be included as well since this is a separate numpad kit. However, if it's non-homing, then that can be considered a design choice, and so it's fine to keep just that one non-homing 5 key.
- Since this is a separate numpad kit, R4 1u 00 should also be included.
- Accent-colored R1 1u = would likely be useful for more people than Pause, since num row Pause is inherently tied to OG 1800 layouts only.
40% kit (40Per100)
- This kit is mostly fine, but two very notable omissions are R4 1u Lower, Raise keys and a second R4 1u Shift keys. Most ortho users will require these keys for their boards. If it comes down to that, Fn and Ctrl can be replaced with Lower and Raise without any issues.
- R4 1u Alt shouldn't be here but rather in the base kit, as mentioned previously.
- Including accent variants of 1.25u and 1.5u Enters should be a lower priority than including correct compatibility for popular layouts.
- R4 1.5u Shift would have been addition to this kit because some of the coverage in the kit (namely, 1.25u Enter for UT47.2, Whimsy etc.) is incomplete without it. 1.5u Shift also covers Nathan's Evolv 75% board and the Raine mini-1800.
- Ideally, the R3 1u Tab key would have had a more generic legend (e.g. ^ (https://i.imgur.com/SePnAXE.png)) so that ortho users aren't restricted to using Tab (which is one of the less popular options (https://imgur.com/OVofoyd) in that position).
Spacebars kit (Linee)
- There's no need to have two 1c spacekeys since this is only useful for ortho boards (which have their own kit where this is covered).
- A nice addition would have been two 3c spacebars since these are growing in popularity.
So! This is the last update guys!
We have new kits, new renders and all the vendors listed here. I'm going to make the GB post soon with pricess and all of that :D
A summary of the finalized kits:
NEW KITS!
I don't agree with making such large kitting changes (completely changing the structure of the kits) right before the GB. This doesn't give you any time to gather feedback from users, and it gives potential buyers no time to react to the changes and voice their thoughts. If I'm being honest, this feels very rushed.
That being said, as it stands, your current kitting has some issues. I'm not sure what you can do at this point, but I'm going to give you a list of these issues so that at least you're aware of them.MoreBase kit (Minimalistico)
- Your base kit render is showing a duplicate F7 key and is missing an F12, but I assume that's a rendering error.
- Other than that, your base kit is missing R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn, which are popular options on modern 65% and 75% boards (you even show them in (https://i.imgur.com/VOma5MA.jpg) your (https://i.imgur.com/TtIWZaZ.jpg) renders (https://i.imgur.com/NKGrkPG.png)); yet it includes a stepped R3 1.75u Control key, which is a lot less commonly used and isn't included in almost any GMK base kits nowadays.
R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn are also the default setup on Tada68, which you explicitly claim to support in the “compatibility check” section of the image.
If you aren't including R3 PgUp, R4 PgDn because they can be covered with novelties, then you shouldn't really include 1.5u Super keys either for the same reason.- Speaking of 1.5u Super, your base kit is missing a second R4 1u Alt key, which is necessary in order for the 1.5u Super keys to be usable.
- The base kit is also missing an R4 1.25u Fn key, which is used on every board size from 40s all the way up to full size. In its place is a Menu key, which isn't really a fitting replacement for Fn (Fn being the more popular option). Menu is truly useful only for TKL and full-size boards (mostly OEM ones) that have an actual context menu key (in which case Fn actually is a good replacement for that). Outside of those, most people prefer to use 1.25u Fn. Because of this, Menu should have been changed to Fn or Meta.
- I personally think the purple Enter accent doesn't make sense unless it's combined with the Striscia kit, so I think this key should have been moved to the Striscia kit.
- An optional addition that some users like and that many base kits are including nowadays is F13.
Alphas kit (Alternativo)
- R1 1u \| is missing, which makes it impossible to cover split backspace keyboards (including all HHKB variants) with white alphas.
Numpad kit (Milleottocento)
- The R1 1u Delete key is a duplicate since there is one already included in the base kit.
- It's unclear if the 5 key is homing or not. If it's supposed to be scooped, then the barred variant should be included as well since this is a separate numpad kit. However, if it's non-homing, then that can be considered a design choice, and so it's fine to keep just that one non-homing 5 key.
- Since this is a separate numpad kit, R4 1u 00 should also be included.
- Accent-colored R1 1u = would likely be useful for more people than Pause, since num row Pause is inherently tied to OG 1800 layouts only.
40% kit (40Per100)
- This kit is mostly fine, but two very notable omissions are R4 1u Lower, Raise keys and a second R4 1u Shift keys. Most ortho users will require these keys for their boards. If it comes down to that, Fn and Ctrl can be replaced with Lower and Raise without any issues.
- R4 1u Alt shouldn't be here but rather in the base kit, as mentioned previously.
- Including accent variants of 1.25u and 1.5u Enters should be a lower priority than including correct compatibility for popular layouts.
- R4 1.5u Shift would have been addition to this kit because some of the coverage in the kit (namely, 1.25u Enter for UT47.2, Whimsy etc.) is incomplete without it. 1.5u Shift also covers Nathan's Evolv 75% board and the Raine mini-1800.
- Ideally, the R3 1u Tab key would have had a more generic legend (e.g. ^ (https://i.imgur.com/SePnAXE.png)) so that ortho users aren't restricted to using Tab (which is one of the less popular options (https://imgur.com/OVofoyd) in that position).
Spacebars kit (Linee)
- There's no need to have two 1c spacekeys since this is only useful for ortho boards (which have their own kit where this is covered).
- A nice addition would have been two 3c spacebars since these are growing in popularity.
Fixed up base and alpha files - thanks to konstantin and his eagle eyes :pShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/EoEZcsF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZLhCIBa.jpg)
So!
I made a mistake. Added R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn to the base. The price will not go higher than what it is right now (it's all on me the fault here)
Hope you like the update! I'm going to post the GB thread when all the proxies set up the pages in their stores :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Gw4huDM.jpg)
Fixed up base and alpha files - thanks to konstantin and his eagle eyes :pShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/EoEZcsF.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZLhCIBa.jpg)So!
I made a mistake. Added R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn to the base. The price will not go higher than what it is right now (it's all on me the fault here)
Hope you like the update! I'm going to post the GB thread when all the proxies set up the pages in their stores :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Gw4huDM.jpg)
Good stuff. Big props for making these last-minute fixes. Best of luck with the GB!
any news on the deskmat production/deliveries? Thought they we'ere gonna be finished this month.
" Once you started a group buy, please remember to close/lock the IC thread and put a re-direct link on the last page of that thread (so that way, members can just follow it to place their orders) "
GB Thread here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110217.0