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[IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« on: Wed, 27 September 2017, 20:56:15 »
Hi guys!
We're  we're Doyu Studio and I'm sennin32.
We're too busy to launch this project this year although we've already edited it.

Support layouts : http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/a1bef8bf2784f5d009c96665a19bfc5e

Update 2018 Jan 23 :
GB Launched!
Geekhack link : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93685.0
GB Link : https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/001pcb60s

Pic of prototyping :





More pics : https://imgur.com/a/Rb8hf
end of Update 2018 Jan 23 :

Update 2017 DEC 11 :
We found ws2812b is too sensitive to temperature.
First sampling is using normal setting while smt processing.
Makes the failure rate too high.
We're going to make second batch and change the setting.
end of Update 2017 DEC 11 :


Do your own GH60 now! if you never have one before.

IC Link : https://goo.gl/forms/yZyEVn9wiEkqli392

This will be the layout support by final design


We'll also make aluminum plate with anodized.
Makes your project colorful.

Features:
1. Available for standard arrows
2. Keep Shift on the right hand
3. Won't change alpha layout
4. USB Type C
5. RGB underglow LEDs presoldered
6. Both work with ANSI and ISO
7. Switches light support
8. Gold plated soldering pads
9. Split spacebar, support both Filco type 3u Spacebar and 2.75u Keycap
10. SMD parts pre-soldered
11. 3u sacebar*2, use them evenly.
12. QMK ready
13. alpha shifted support

Processing:
Plate Prototyping Processing
add one more extra keys on the right of sapce bar, let 6.25u with arrow
PCB Prototyping Finished, https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91773.msg2531169#msg2531169
Manufacturer Plate
Manufacturer PCB
Case design Check it out here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92790.0

About manufacturing:
Takes around 2 months to manufacture

Pricing:
PCB : $30 Looking for higher quantity, and make the price as low as $25
Plate : $17 each Hope we can do it with only $12 after higher quantity
Stabilizer : $6 each for 7*2u and 1*6.25u
« Last Edit: Thu, 25 January 2018, 21:25:54 by sennin32 »

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 27 September 2017, 20:56:53 »
Update :
2017 OCT 19th
We're modifying PCB for some layouts and RGB underglow.
And communication with parts suppliers/PCB manufacturer.
If we can reach 500 PCs at first batch.
Price might around $25.

Layout update : http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/a1bef8bf2784f5d009c96665a19bfc5e
« Last Edit: Thu, 19 October 2017, 16:17:29 by sennin32 »

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 27 September 2017, 20:57:09 »
FAQ:
Is the stabilizer PCB or plate mounted?
PCB mounted.
It is limited due to support more layouts.

About Shipping
The PCB + plate +stabilizer is around 200g~300g
International shipping will be under $10 to world wide.
~$8 to USA, CA, Europe, South America
~$7 to Asia, AU

Steeped capslock
Yes, this board support steeped capslock
« Last Edit: Fri, 29 September 2017, 15:11:29 by sennin32 »

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 27 September 2017, 21:06:23 »
What makes this more special than any other 60% PCB?
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 27 September 2017, 21:07:10 »
What makes this more special than any other 60% PCB?

The same thing that makes you special from any other person.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 27 September 2017, 21:07:38 »
What makes this more special than any other 60% PCB?

The same thing that makes you special from any other person.

I'm ****ing dense, so I hope that's not what it is.
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 27 September 2017, 21:12:09 »
Interested =)

What makes this more special than any other 60% PCB?

Layout Support for once.
There aren't many 60 PCBs with arrow support ya know

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 27 September 2017, 21:14:46 »
Split space bar is what caught my eye.  It's nice to see more PCBs turning up with support for that.

The layout options still seem awkward to me, though.  I'll be holding out for the next round of Banana Split 60.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 27 September 2017, 21:16:47 »
What makes this more special than any other 60% PCB?

Underglow and more split space support probably. Pretty good layout options for a low price

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 27 September 2017, 21:41:34 »
What makes this more special than any other 60% PCB?
To keyboard geeks, it support more layout but with easy to find caps.
Makes it more easy to use for those who are not familiar with 60% keyboards.

To us, we are looking for better QA control.
Better packaging from manufacturer to us, better printing...etc.
We've tried to communicate with suppliers who offer us PCBs for passed few years.
The packaging is bad, QA pass rate is low, makes us spend too much time to fix those issues.
But nothing changes after communications.
Let's do it ourselves!

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 27 September 2017, 22:37:50 »
I filled out the form.  I'm down for 2 definitely.  Any idea on holtite support?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 00:36:03 »
I filled out the form.  I'm down for 2 definitely.  Any idea on holtite support?
I'm not sure about holtite.
The hole size is from Cherry datasheet suggestion.
If the socket is design to fit Cherry standard, it will fit.
But I never try that before.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 01:19:00 »
Is the PCB going to be black and QMK support?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 02:40:09 »
I'm pretty bad looking at these PCB's, but I assume you could do a layout with arrow keys and a regular 6.25 space bar? Just five 1u keys on the right.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 03:30:09 »
I'm pretty bad looking at these PCB's, but I assume you could do a layout with arrow keys and a regular 6.25 space bar? Just five 1u keys on the right.

Looks to me like you can only go 7u space with 4 1u on the right, or split space if you want all se arrows =D

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 05:22:35 »
It will have rgb led Underground ?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 08:41:20 »
It will have rgb led Underground ?

It does.
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 09:32:16 »
It will have rgb led Underground ?

It does.

Are you sure? I don't see any 4-pad footprints for that in the picture.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 10:11:26 »
Is the PCB going to be black and QMK support?
For now.
We focus on TMK firmware, and I never study QMK.
If there's many people want QMK support.
We have to do some research.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 10:14:55 »
I'm pretty bad looking at these PCB's, but I assume you could do a layout with arrow keys and a regular 6.25 space bar? Just five 1u keys on the right.

Seems this will works.
Add one more key on the right of spacebar.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 10:17:46 »
It will have rgb led Underground ?
No,
For now, unless we make a brand new firmware.
Or it will be hard to do that.

Our next project will be a 60% Keyboard with full aluminum case and RGB LED.
Include custom firmware(Support windows only now)

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 10:18:46 »
It will have rgb led Underground ?

It does.

Are you sure? I don't see any 4-pad footprints for that in the picture.

It will have rgb led Underground ?

It does.

No, doesn't support RGB :(
But you can chose color you prefer :)

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 10:34:04 »
Is the PCB going to be black and QMK support?
For now.
We focus on TMK firmware, and I never study QMK.
If there's many people want QMK support.
We have to do some research.

QMK is an extension of TMK and uses the same core, if you know TMK it is really easy to add also support QMK (unless you have extensive custom code and non-standard hardware at least).

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 10:47:26 »
Is the PCB going to be black and QMK support?
For now.
We focus on TMK firmware, and I never study QMK.
If there's many people want QMK support.
We have to do some research.

Yup,
I believe QMK add some more features.
And the setting file must have to support those features.

QMK is an extension of TMK and uses the same core, if you know TMK it is really easy to add also support QMK (unless you have extensive custom code and non-standard hardware at least).

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 19:32:21 »
I'm pretty bad looking at these PCB's, but I assume you could do a layout with arrow keys and a regular 6.25 space bar? Just five 1u keys on the right.

Seems this will works.
Add one more key on the right of spacebar.

If you examine the layout sheet, this will most definitely not work, sorry.

Only 7u and split space support with arrows.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 28 September 2017, 22:17:56 »
I'm pretty bad looking at these PCB's, but I assume you could do a layout with arrow keys and a regular 6.25 space bar? Just five 1u keys on the right.

Seems this will works.
Add one more key on the right of spacebar.

If you examine the layout sheet, this will most definitely not work, sorry.

Only 7u and split space support with arrows.

Yes,
Have to add one more key position

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 01 October 2017, 11:55:13 »
There's another question added in to the checking form.

It is about do you use TKG as your main tool to flash your keyboard?

We're looking for some possibility to reduce the pricing.
The most possible way is to change MCU.
But TKG seems support only atmel AVR.

Means if we change it into ARM, the only way to flash it is compile it yourself.
Hope I can get some feedback!

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 01 October 2017, 14:21:43 »
For me that all depends on if you put a config for it here:
https://kbfirmware.com

I’m lazy :(

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 10 October 2017, 19:33:08 »
Are there significant differences between this board and the DZ60 from KBDFans? I'm not criticizing, just curious.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 10 October 2017, 20:22:58 »
Are there significant differences between this board and the DZ60 from KBDFans? I'm not criticizing, just curious.

An obvious difference to me is that the bottom row layouts with split spacebar are different.  DZ60 supports the [2.25][1.25][2.75] or [2.75][1.25][2.25] split.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 11 October 2017, 05:34:34 »
This PCB looks great but:
- No screw hole near the space bar (ATMega is on his way?)
- No right screw hole

I think this 2 "issues" will limit the cases choice.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 11 October 2017, 08:36:42 »
This PCB looks great but:
- No screw hole near the space bar (ATMega is on his way?)
- No right screw hole

I think this 2 "issues" will limit the cases choice.

I hadn’t noticed that.  You’re correct.  I would expect all 6 standard mounting holes.  I might be able to live without the bottom one, but we need thr one on the right for sure

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 11 October 2017, 09:00:57 »
This PCB looks great but:
- No screw hole near the space bar (ATMega is on his way?)
- No right screw hole

I think this 2 "issues" will limit the cases choice.

I hadn’t noticed that.  You’re correct.  I would expect all 6 standard mounting holes.  I might be able to live without the bottom one, but we need thr one on the right for sure

I think the bottom will be a real problem if ATMega is crushed by the hole support of the case.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 19 October 2017, 13:37:24 »
This PCB looks great but:
- No screw hole near the space bar (ATMega is on his way?)
- No right screw hole

I think this 2 "issues" will limit the cases choice.
We remove one of screw hole from the PCB because of it is on the stab/switches' position.
I think that won't be a major issue for remove only one hole @@

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 OCT 20
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 01 December 2017, 04:23:54 »
Update:
1st Prototyping finished, awaiting SMD processing
IC for Case design : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92790.0

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 OCT 20
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 01 December 2017, 12:21:44 »
Update:
1st Prototyping finished, awaiting SMD processing
IC for Case design : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92790.0

What is your target price range for the case/plate combo?
wut. i'd buy a ****ty IBM board for that green V2

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 1st
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 05:56:03 »
Very interested in the dual 3u spacebars layout, but I'm skeptical about the lack of 2 mounting holes ( bottom and right edge ).

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 1st
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 04 December 2017, 23:46:54 »
Samples:





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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 1st
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 05 December 2017, 00:34:32 »
Samples:
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Looks nice.  Is there any way you can get a full shot of the back.  The whole board

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 1st
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 05 December 2017, 00:49:47 »
We’ll do it later.
Haven’t received it, I just ask Pcb manufacturer take some pic for me.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 1st
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 05 December 2017, 00:52:49 »
We’ll do it later.
Haven’t received it, I just ask Pcb manufacturer take some pic for me.

Thanks!

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 1st
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 06 December 2017, 20:14:02 »
Could you possibly support offset 6u spacebar?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 1st
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 07 December 2017, 00:53:39 »
Do you have any choice over soldermask color?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 1st
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 07 December 2017, 06:43:25 »
Do you have any choice over soldermask color?
Only white now :(

Could you possibly support offset 6u spacebar?
It should support if you mean 6 units (114mm wide, 3 keymounts, 57mm and 38mm apart).
I'll test it again when 2nd sample arrive.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 1st
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 09 December 2017, 06:39:52 »
We haven't receive the sample yet.
But we've found some bugs/things want to change in first sample :
1. for shorter trackers, we put diode/LED in different direction, which is not a good idea for repairing and looks a little bad.
2. Move LED position to fit the MCU, more reasonable trackers.
3. put all screw holes back include the one near bottom.
4. One of tracker pass the logo on the mask layer, makes it explore

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 1st
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 12 December 2017, 23:33:28 »
Samples:
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Looks nice.  Is there any way you can get a full shot of the back.  The whole board

updated in origin post.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 13 December 2017, 03:09:40 »
Does it support 6u spacebar? :)

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 13 December 2017, 06:20:58 »
quick reply : yup it does.

complete : You might want to send layout, see if it support.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 13 December 2017, 13:12:10 »
Is there a center screw hole?  I’m not seeing one.  Usually between the G and the H

Really like the options this pcb has.  Good work
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 13 December 2017, 13:57:50 »
Noob here, what is the dimensions of those shifts if I opt for the arrow cluster and 6.25u spacebar. I can't read the picture just yet.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 13 December 2017, 14:35:44 »
Is there a center screw hole?  I’m not seeing one.  Usually between the G and the H

Really like the options this pcb has.  Good work

I concur, the lack of a centre screw hole makes typing characters around the homing area quite wobbly for tray mount cases (I suppose for top mount cases, this won't matter), but with many good quality affordable tray cases coming out (Leandre and KBDf cases), having the proper centre hole would be nice (hopefully this is only an accident and not because of the limitations of the PCB routing)
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #52 on: Wed, 13 December 2017, 22:08:07 »
Is there a center screw hole?  I’m not seeing one.  Usually between the G and the H

Really like the options this pcb has.  Good work

Here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91773.msg2533533#msg2533533
Will put the screw hole back :)

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 14 December 2017, 04:06:47 »
quick reply : yup it does.

complete : You might want to send layout, see if it support.
I would like this layout (infinity hacker):

Keyboard layout: https://tinyurl.com/y78u5hco

It works? :)

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 14 December 2017, 09:51:56 »
hot swap switch socket support?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 14 December 2017, 12:07:46 »
Love the layout options! Can I get the plate in black?
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #56 on: Thu, 14 December 2017, 21:18:54 »
quick reply : yup it does.

complete : You might want to send layout, see if it support.
I would like this layout (infinity hacker):
Show Image

Keyboard layout: https://tinyurl.com/y78u5hco

It works? :)
Yes.

hot swap switch socket support?
Holtite?Most of them works.
But for some position might too lose cause the drilling.


Love the layout options! Can I get the plate in black?
We offer black, gray, silver, gold, purple, blue, purple...etc

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 15 December 2017, 00:44:28 »
We offer black, gray, silver, gold, purple, blue, purple...

You said purple twice.

I like purple.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 15 December 2017, 05:13:46 »
Love the layout options! Can I get the plate in black?
We offer black, gray, silver, gold, purple, blue, purple...etc

Perfect, I'm 100% in then! Now to get a custom USB-C cable as well...
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 15 December 2017, 14:05:50 »
I need to know if the PCB is programmable by the user. This is a must for me.
PLEASE ANSWER!

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 15 December 2017, 19:24:09 »
I need to know if the PCB is programmable by the user. This is a must for me.
PLEASE ANSWER!

Mate no self-respecting vendor on this forum is gonna perform an IC for a NON-PROGRAMMABLE PCB...
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« Reply #61 on: Fri, 15 December 2017, 19:42:08 »
I need to know if the PCB is programmable by the user. This is a must for me.
PLEASE ANSWER!

Mate no self-respecting vendor on this forum is gonna perform an IC for a NON-PROGRAMMABLE PCB...

So maybe.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 15 December 2017, 20:28:27 »
I need to know if the PCB is programmable by the user. This is a must for me.
PLEASE ANSWER!

Mate no self-respecting vendor on this forum is gonna perform an IC for a NON-PROGRAMMABLE PCB...

the matrix abel gb just ran and its a non-programmable keyboard  :p

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #63 on: Sat, 16 December 2017, 06:38:27 »
Hi!
Any chance to get minila similar 3u spacebar? 4u suitable as well :)
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 16 December 2017, 08:01:18 »
Hi!
Any chance to get minila similar 3u spacebar? 4u suitable as well :)
We'll offer 3u space bar as one of the bundle options.
But no 4u this time, sorry :(

I need to know if the PCB is programmable by the user. This is a must for me.
PLEASE ANSWER!
Sure they are.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 16 December 2017, 08:03:25 »
Hi!
Any chance to get minila similar 3u spacebar? 4u suitable as well :)
We'll offer 3u space bar as one of the bundle options.
But no 4u this time, sorry :(

I need to know if the PCB is programmable by the user. This is a must for me.
PLEASE ANSWER!
Sure they are.

QMK, TMK?
When do expect to start the group buy?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 16 December 2017, 08:25:44 »
Hi!
Any chance to get minila similar 3u spacebar? 4u suitable as well :)
We'll offer 3u space bar as one of the bundle options.
But no 4u this time, sorry :(

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O Really?  I mean 3u space bar like this pic shows
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 16 December 2017, 09:29:34 »
Would it be possible to make the PCB thicker, for those who don't want to use a plate?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #68 on: Sat, 16 December 2017, 14:08:03 »
Would it be possible to make the PCB thicker, for those who don't want to use a plate?

+1 :thumb:

I'd like it to be extra thicc to skip the plate & use Kailh low-profile switches.


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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #69 on: Sat, 16 December 2017, 14:12:04 »
Would it be possible to make the PCB thicker, for those who don't want to use a plate?

stack them, dual pcb is all the rage these days

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 18 December 2017, 09:27:34 »
QMK, TMK?

Whatever happened to reading the first post?

Quote
Features:
1. Available for standard arrows
2. Keep Shift on the right hand
3. Won't change alpha layout
4. USB Type C
5. RGB underglow LEDs presoldered
6. Both work with ANSI and ISO
7. Switches light support
8. Gold plated soldering pads
9. Split spacebar, support both Filco type 3u Spacebar and 2.75u Keycap
10. SMD parts pre-soldered
11. 3u sacebar*2, use them evenly.
12. QMK ready
13. alpha shifted support
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 19 December 2017, 04:52:02 »
Would it be possible to make the PCB thicker, for those who don't want to use a plate?

+1 :thumb:

I'd like it to be extra thicc to skip the plate & use Kailh low-profile switches.

Thicker PCB will be 2mm, instead of 1.6.
That means for some case(those fit perfectly), will not able to use -0-

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #72 on: Tue, 19 December 2017, 04:53:53 »
Hi!
Any chance to get minila similar 3u spacebar? 4u suitable as well :)
We'll offer 3u space bar as one of the bundle options.
But no 4u this time, sorry :(

...

O Really?  I mean 3u space bar like this pic shows

yup, 3u space.
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #73 on: Tue, 19 December 2017, 04:55:09 »
Hi!
Any chance to get minila similar 3u spacebar? 4u suitable as well :)
We'll offer 3u space bar as one of the bundle options.
But no 4u this time, sorry :(

I need to know if the PCB is programmable by the user. This is a must for me.
PLEASE ANSWER!
Sure they are.

QMK, TMK?
When do expect to start the group buy?

QMK is ready, but not yet TMK.
I'm looking for some online tool which can replace TMK.
Seems only qmk support RGB underglow.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #74 on: Tue, 19 December 2017, 09:08:35 »
Any chance the PCB will support ALPS switches? Any thoughts of a separate plates to accommodate ALPS?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #75 on: Tue, 19 December 2017, 09:17:47 »
Would it be possible to make the PCB thicker, for those who don't want to use a plate?

+1 :thumb:

I'd like it to be extra thicc to skip the plate & use Kailh low-profile switches.

Thicker PCB will be 2mm, instead of 1.6.
That means for some case(those fit perfectly), will not able to use -0-

I've never seen that happening in any... case.

A small increment in thickness leads to a big increase in rigidity, since the inertia is proportional to the cube of the thickness, that means that if the height of the PCB doubles, the rigidity becomes 8 times as much!!!

In this case, going from 1.6mm to 2mm (an increment of 25% in thickness)  gives you double the rigity (100% increment).

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #76 on: Fri, 22 December 2017, 04:54:03 »
When can we expect the group buy to start? I'm super eager to get my hands on one of these!
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #77 on: Fri, 22 December 2017, 07:43:36 »
This is awesome! So excited for this :D
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #78 on: Sat, 23 December 2017, 09:24:32 »
Hi!
Any chance to get minila similar 3u spacebar? 4u suitable as well :)
We'll offer 3u space bar as one of the bundle options.
But no 4u this time, sorry :(

I need to know if the PCB is programmable by the user. This is a must for me.
PLEASE ANSWER!
Sure they are.

QMK, TMK?
When do expect to start the group buy?
We're making new sample now.
Modify LED position and some other parts's position.
Will launch around early Jun.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #79 on: Sun, 24 December 2017, 08:39:57 »
Hi!
Any chance to get minila similar 3u spacebar? 4u suitable as well :)
We'll offer 3u space bar as one of the bundle options.
But no 4u this time, sorry :(

I need to know if the PCB is programmable by the user. This is a must for me.
PLEASE ANSWER!
Sure they are.

QMK, TMK?
When do expect to start the group buy?
We're making new sample now.
Modify LED position and some other parts's position.
Will launch around early Jun.


Wait.   Jun?   Did you mean June or did you mean Jan as in January?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #80 on: Sun, 24 December 2017, 17:19:33 »
Hi!
Any chance to get minila similar 3u spacebar? 4u suitable as well :)
We'll offer 3u space bar as one of the bundle options.
But no 4u this time, sorry :(

I need to know if the PCB is programmable by the user. This is a must for me.
PLEASE ANSWER!
Sure they are.

QMK, TMK?
When do expect to start the group buy?
We're making new sample now.
Modify LED position and some other parts's position.
Will launch around early Jun.

Don't you mean January rather than June?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #81 on: Mon, 25 December 2017, 07:27:57 »
What options are there for a convex gmk space-bar? Convex like the standard spacebars, while existing shift keys are concave and unusable as spacebars, in my opinion.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #82 on: Mon, 25 December 2017, 08:41:20 »
What options are there for a convex gmk space-bar? Convex like the standard spacebars, while existing shift keys are concave and unusable as spacebars, in my opinion.

Not sure whether you mean cherry profile or not but I don't think GMK makes convex space-bars other than 6u, 6.25u and 7u.

If you mean cherry though, a few pbt manufacturers make cherry profile space bars in white, beige, light gray, dark gray and black.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #83 on: Mon, 25 December 2017, 09:05:50 »
What options are there for a convex gmk space-bar? Convex like the standard spacebars, while existing shift keys are concave and unusable as spacebars, in my opinion.

Not sure whether you mean cherry profile or not but I don't think GMK makes convex space-bars other than 6u, 6.25u and 7u.

If you mean cherry though, a few pbt manufacturers make cherry profile space bars in white, beige, light gray, dark gray and black.

I've found out that Gmk makes a convex  2u R4 key, it's the top one. It also makes a 1u R4 key.

https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/gmk-add-on-kit-tu2-spacebars_371/
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #84 on: Mon, 25 December 2017, 20:40:14 »
Wait.   Jun?   Did you mean June or did you mean Jan as in January?

Don't you mean January rather than June?

Sorry, it is Jan.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #85 on: Wed, 27 December 2017, 12:48:51 »
Since gmk makes 1u and 2u convex (spacebar-like) keys, what about contacting them asking for other sizes? I don't know if 3u or 3.25u .... Or both?

Did you guys reconsider the PCB thickness question? 2mm would give double the rigidity, allowing us to have a solid keyboard without the need for a plate. I don't understand why some cases couldn't be compatible with a 0.4mm increase in thickness.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #86 on: Wed, 27 December 2017, 12:57:37 »
Cause we changed the switches direction for each and 1.
Which means we have to push the usb and Pcb out.
So the Pcb will go into the USB port.
If the cutout space is really tight, it is not able to fit.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #87 on: Wed, 27 December 2017, 16:36:39 »
Cause we changed the switches direction for each and 1.
Which means we have to push the usb and Pcb out.
So the Pcb will go into the USB port.
If the cutout space is really tight, it is not able to fit.

If you use USB C instead of mini, it is wider and thinner. So it fits. USB C connector is 2.5mm tall, while USB mini is 3.9mm, so you could even use a 1.6mm+(3.9mm-2.5mm)=3.0mm PCB.

There is also the option of using a cut through connector

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #88 on: Wed, 27 December 2017, 16:48:39 »
Cause we changed the switches direction for each and 1.
Which means we have to push the usb and Pcb out.
So the Pcb will go into the USB port.
If the cutout space is really tight, it is not able to fit.

I think this is normal, most 60% PCBs with the correct switch orientation also have a small PCB extension at the USB port location for this same reason (Just have a look at the GH60 rev C, GON Nerd60, Winkeyless b.mini and Sentraq S60, they are all like this). The fact that those PCBs work with most of the cases on the market means that you're unlikely to have any issues with your PCB if you take the same approach.
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #89 on: Wed, 27 December 2017, 23:50:44 »
Cause we changed the switches direction for each and 1.
Which means we have to push the usb and Pcb out.
So the Pcb will go into the USB port.
If the cutout space is really tight, it is not able to fit.

If you use USB C instead of mini, it is wider and thinner. So it fits. USB C connector is 2.5mm tall, while USB mini is 3.9mm, so you could even use a 1.6mm+(3.9mm-2.5mm)=3.0mm PCB.

There is also the option of using a cut through connector

(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

It is different direction.

No matter how thin the port is.
The PCB's space is the same.
You can see there's no room for thicker PCB.
(This is first sample, , PCB is not extended near port, 2mm is okay, but for 2nd sample, it will extend and goin to the cutout, if it become thicker, not able to fit I think)
Not every case's cutout is the same as this one, but if we make it with 2mm.
Means some cases might not fit.
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #90 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 03:10:20 »
Thanks for your answer, so the mid mount connector would be the only chance.
I think that many would like the chance of saving (money, time), by not having a plate, with a thicker PCB.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #91 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 03:18:46 »
Thanks for your answer, so the mid mount connector would be the only chance.
I think that many would like the chance of saving (money, time), by not having a plate, with a thicker PCB.
PCB mount stabs don’t work with thicker PCBs. So a thick PCB will work only if used with a plate and plate mounted stabs. You could order the PCBs with z-axis milling to thin them around the stab holes, but the cost would be prohibitive I think.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #92 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 08:36:09 »
Thanks for your answer, so the mid mount connector would be the only chance.
I think that many would like the chance of saving (money, time), by not having a plate, with a thicker PCB.
PCB mount stabs don’t work with thicker PCBs. So a thick PCB will work only if used with a plate and plate mounted stabs. You could order the PCBs with z-axis milling to thin them around the stab holes, but the cost would be prohibitive I think.

I doubt that they don't work since the UNIQEY PCB is thicker and has PCB mount stabilisers. There are also screw mount stabilisers, that work with any thickness. The point is that trying new layouts is easier if you don't have to order a plate too.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #93 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 09:01:47 »
Thanks for your answer, so the mid mount connector would be the only chance.
I think that many would like the chance of saving (money, time), by not having a plate, with a thicker PCB.
PCB mount stabs don’t work with thicker PCBs. So a thick PCB will work only if used with a plate and plate mounted stabs. You could order the PCBs with z-axis milling to thin them around the stab holes, but the cost would be prohibitive I think.

I doubt that they don't work since the UNIQEY PCB is thicker and has PCB mount stabilisers. There are also screw mount stabilisers, that work with any thickness. The point is that trying new layouts is easier if you don't have to order a plate too.
Really? How thick? Even screw mounted pcb stabs require the pcb to be 1.6mm, as only one side is mounted with a screw while the other end is held via mechanical retention.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #94 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 09:44:55 »
Thanks for your answer, so the mid mount connector would be the only chance.
I think that many would like the chance of saving (money, time), by not having a plate, with a thicker PCB.
PCB mount stabs don’t work with thicker PCBs. So a thick PCB will work only if used with a plate and plate mounted stabs. You could order the PCBs with z-axis milling to thin them around the stab holes, but the cost would be prohibitive I think.

I doubt that they don't work since the UNIQEY PCB is thicker and has PCB mount stabilisers. There are also screw mount stabilisers, that work with any thickness. The point is that trying new layouts is easier if you don't have to order a plate too.
Really? How thick? Even screw mounted pcb stabs require the pcb to be 1.6mm, as only one side is mounted with a screw while the other end is held via mechanical retention.

Q100 PCB is at least 2mm thick

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #95 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 11:08:24 »
Sorry, it is Jan.

Oh whew, I was totally ready to wait until June :D

Since gmk makes 1u and 2u convex (spacebar-like) keys, what about contacting them asking for other sizes? I don't know if 3u or 3.25u .... Or both?

That would require new moulds, though. IIRC this also came up in the GMK Nautilus IC (because it does have an extensive spacebar set already), but there was no way for it to happen.

Thanks for your answer, so the mid mount connector would be the only chance.
I think that many would like the chance of saving (money, time), by not having a plate, with a thicker PCB.

No that wouldn't work either. Take a look at the picture again:

It is different direction.
Show Image

No matter how thin the port is.
The PCB's space is the same.
You can see there's no room for thicker PCB.
(This is first sample, , PCB is not extended near port, 2mm is okay, but for 2nd sample, it will extend and goin to the cutout, if it become thicker, not able to fit I think)
Not every case's cutout is the same as this one, but if we make it with 2mm.
Means some cases might not fit.

There needs to be a protrusion on the PCB where the USB-C port is. To allow USB C cables to be plugged in, this protrusion needs to be so long that it actually sticks into the USB port hole in the case. Doing this, it touches the top of that hole, so if you made the PCB thicker, it would interfere with that hole, meaning the PCB wouldn't fit inside the case anymore.

The only way to fix this would be to cut the hole open a bit or shorten the standoffs inside the case.

For what it's worth, I wouldn't want to build this board without a plate, purely for aesthetic reasons.
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #96 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 13:39:12 »
Thanks for your answer, so the mid mount connector would be the only chance.
I think that many would like the chance of saving (money, time), by not having a plate, with a thicker PCB.
PCB mount stabs don’t work with thicker PCBs. So a thick PCB will work only if used with a plate and plate mounted stabs. You could order the PCBs with z-axis milling to thin them around the stab holes, but the cost would be prohibitive I think.

I doubt that they don't work since the UNIQEY PCB is thicker and has PCB mount stabilisers. There are also screw mount stabilisers, that work with any thickness. The point is that trying new layouts is easier if you don't have to order a plate too.
Really? How thick? Even screw mounted pcb stabs require the pcb to be 1.6mm, as only one side is mounted with a screw while the other end is held via mechanical retention.

Q100 PCB is at least 2mm thick
Would you have a picture of the pcb and stabs? I’m interested to see whether they have resorted to z-axis milling or custom stabs.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #97 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 15:44:34 »
Thanks for your answer, so the mid mount connector would be the only chance.
I think that many would like the chance of saving (money, time), by not having a plate, with a thicker PCB.
PCB mount stabs don’t work with thicker PCBs. So a thick PCB will work only if used with a plate and plate mounted stabs. You could order the PCBs with z-axis milling to thin them around the stab holes, but the cost would be prohibitive I think.

I doubt that they don't work since the UNIQEY PCB is thicker and has PCB mount stabilisers. There are also screw mount stabilisers, that work with any thickness. The point is that trying new layouts is easier if you don't have to order a plate too.
Really? How thick? Even screw mounted pcb stabs require the pcb to be 1.6mm, as only one side is mounted with a screw while the other end is held via mechanical retention.

Q100 PCB is at least 2mm thick
Would you have a picture of the pcb and stabs? I’m interested to see whether they have resorted to z-axis milling or custom stabs.

I won't have one at hand for a long time. You can simulate the different thickness with paper (0.1mm/sheet)

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #98 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 16:24:48 »
Thanks for your answer, so the mid mount connector would be the only chance.
I think that many would like the chance of saving (money, time), by not having a plate, with a thicker PCB.
PCB mount stabs don’t work with thicker PCBs. So a thick PCB will work only if used with a plate and plate mounted stabs. You could order the PCBs with z-axis milling to thin them around the stab holes, but the cost would be prohibitive I think.

I doubt that they don't work since the UNIQEY PCB is thicker and has PCB mount stabilisers. There are also screw mount stabilisers, that work with any thickness. The point is that trying new layouts is easier if you don't have to order a plate too.
Really? How thick? Even screw mounted pcb stabs require the pcb to be 1.6mm, as only one side is mounted with a screw while the other end is held via mechanical retention.

Q100 PCB is at least 2mm thick
Would you have a picture of the pcb and stabs? I’m interested to see whether they have resorted to z-axis milling or custom stabs.

I won't have one at hand for a long time. You can simulate the different thickness with paper (0.1mm/sheet)
I have illustrated the problem below. I highly doubt that you can stretch that latching piece of plastic by 25%.
185358-0

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #99 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 18:22:15 »
Did you measure it?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #100 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 18:36:50 »
Did you measure it?
It fits tight on a 1.6mm pcb. No rattle.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #101 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 18:45:18 »
GEEZUS why dont you two exchange numbers and talk? Get off the IC!

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #102 on: Thu, 28 December 2017, 19:30:14 »
Did you measure it?

Measuring is irrelevant, here's the official spec sheet: http://switches-sensors.zf.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Keymodule_MX_EN.pdf

The stabiliser expects a 1.5mm PCB with a bilateral tolerance band of 0.14mm either way. Maximum expected PCB thickness is 1.64mm

For what it's worth, the samples I have on hand have 1.67mm clearance between the bottom face of the stabiliser body and the clip retention. This really isn't going to fit anything thicker than Cherry spec. If the Uniqey keyboard has PCB any thicker, they are either milling slots down to specified thickness at the clip locations or are using non-standard stabilisers.
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #103 on: Fri, 29 December 2017, 08:47:28 »
It's not irrelevant.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #104 on: Fri, 29 December 2017, 10:24:55 »
It's not irrelevant.

Make it to spec or stabilisers won't fit. Is that irrelevant or are you just thick? (pun not intended)
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #105 on: Tue, 02 January 2018, 23:20:52 »
Where is this PCB actually manufactured? China or Taiwan?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #106 on: Thu, 04 January 2018, 20:25:14 »
Any updates?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #107 on: Thu, 04 January 2018, 20:31:27 »
Where is this PCB actually manufactured? China or Taiwan?

China.

Any updates?

Modified sample will finish today.
We ordered some black this time.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #108 on: Mon, 08 January 2018, 05:40:48 »
Sample delayed T_T

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #109 on: Tue, 09 January 2018, 00:53:57 »
Sample delayed T_T

Q.Q

I'm excited for the GB tho! Gotta make myself, my bro and my friends some keebs

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #110 on: Tue, 09 January 2018, 01:27:51 »
Sample delayed T_T

Q.Q

I'm excited for the GB tho! Gotta make myself, my bro and my friends some keebs
I think just few days delay haha

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #111 on: Tue, 09 January 2018, 03:58:01 »
Will you guys supply 3u stab wire too?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #112 on: Tue, 09 January 2018, 04:14:43 »
Will you guys supply 3u stab wire too?
Sure

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #113 on: Tue, 09 January 2018, 07:44:35 »
Will you guys supply 3u stab wire too?
Sure

Did you contact GMK about manufacturing 3u spacebars? Thanks

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #114 on: Tue, 09 January 2018, 11:47:38 »
Did you contact GMK about manufacturing 3u spacebars? Thanks

In case that's not happening, you can get good 3u PBT spacebars on Aliexpress that are easy to dye and apparently fit the GMK profile perfectly.
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #115 on: Tue, 09 January 2018, 12:08:54 »
Did you contact GMK about manufacturing 3u spacebars? Thanks

In case that's not happening, you can get good 3u PBT spacebars on Aliexpress that are easy to dye and apparently fit the GMK profile perfectly.
Thank you :-)

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #116 on: Tue, 09 January 2018, 13:51:16 »
Did you contact GMK about manufacturing 3u spacebars? Thanks

In case that's not happening, you can get good 3u PBT spacebars on Aliexpress that are easy to dye and apparently fit the GMK profile perfectly.
Thank you :-)
Vincent who runs the store in that link also has light and darker gray 3u spacebars as well.
I've already bought 2 of each of those colours already.
Enjoypbt also make 3u spacebars for those who want an exact colour match with their sets.
« Last Edit: Tue, 09 January 2018, 13:57:36 by gok101 »

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #117 on: Wed, 10 January 2018, 07:52:55 »
Vincent who runs the store in that link also has light and darker gray 3u spacebars as well.
I've already bought 2 of each of those colours already.
Enjoypbt also make 3u spacebars for those who want an exact colour match with their sets.

Does Enjoypbt have a storefront or site anywhere? I only ever see their products hosted/sold by other stores.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #118 on: Wed, 10 January 2018, 13:18:22 »
Vincent who runs the store in that link also has light and darker gray 3u spacebars as well.
I've already bought 2 of each of those colours already.
Enjoypbt also make 3u spacebars for those who want an exact colour match with their sets.

Does Enjoypbt have a storefront or site anywhere? I only ever see their products hosted/sold by other stores.
I don't think so. I contacted KBDfans about it and they support it through sets like this: https://kbdfans.cn/products/pre-orderenjoypbt-black-japanese-dye-sub-keycaps
I've also asked them for an additional 3u spacebar so that I can use it with this PCB/ 60% case by Doyu Studio.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #119 on: Fri, 12 January 2018, 02:03:43 »
Would this pcb support holtites?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #120 on: Fri, 19 January 2018, 14:44:42 »
Looks really nice! Will the PCB work in a USB-C to USB-C configuration, as on new MacBooks, without the need for a USB OTG adapter?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #121 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 14:38:41 »
Any news?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #122 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 23:07:15 »
Definitely interested in this PCB. Can't wait to hear more about it.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #123 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 03:40:30 »
GB launched!
Geekhack link : (Waiting for approve)https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93685.0
GB Link : https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/001pcb60s

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #124 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 03:59:38 »
what plate option do i select for this layout?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #125 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 08:02:29 »
Looks really nice! Will the PCB work in a USB-C to USB-C configuration, as on new MacBooks, without the need for a USB OTG adapter?

Would this pcb support holtites?

For some position, it might not a good idea cause the pad will be cut.
But basicaly, it is okay.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #126 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 08:04:08 »
Looks really nice! Will the PCB work in a USB-C to USB-C configuration, as on new MacBooks, without the need for a USB OTG adapter?

I think those adapters is just change theUSB type.
It should support, but I didn't try it since there's too few computer has it.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #127 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 08:05:16 »
what plate option do i select for this layout?

ANSI & ISO w/ Arrow : https://goo.gl/RGCTYW

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #128 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 08:08:53 »
what plate option do i select for this layout?

ANSI & ISO w/ Arrow : https://goo.gl/RGCTYW

That gives me the split Backspace & split Left Shift?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #129 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 08:11:47 »
Nevermind....didnt scroll down.
« Last Edit: Tue, 23 January 2018, 08:14:45 by cdn-mini »

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #130 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 09:55:48 »
with usb c
all i need is a single cable if i use this with macbook pro 2016?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #131 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 10:26:11 »
what plate option do i select for this layout?

ANSI & ISO w/ Arrow : https://goo.gl/RGCTYW

That gives me the split Backspace & split Left Shift?

I'd prefer your photoshopped layout with the 1U LSHIFT over the 1.25u LSHIFT. That means 15 1U keys in the second row. :thumb:
Hope it'll be available that way!
Waiting for GMK Miami Dolch ISO . . .

Looking for: Titainium Spacebar 6.25

      

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #132 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 13:48:57 »
what plate option do i select for this layout?

ANSI & ISO w/ Arrow : https://goo.gl/RGCTYW

That gives me the split Backspace & split Left Shift?

I'd prefer your photoshopped layout with the 1U LSHIFT over the 1.25u LSHIFT. That means 15 1U keys in the second row. :thumb:
Hope it'll be available that way!

Sure, check this one : Shifted ZXCVB Universal ANSI : https://goo.gl/57AkTc (PCB stabs)

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #133 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 13:50:55 »
with usb c
all i need is a single cable if i use this with macbook pro 2016?

I never tried cause my mac is old ver, but I think yes, adapters just change the type of USB!

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #134 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 17:42:14 »
with usb c
all i need is a single cable if i use this with macbook pro 2016?

I never tried cause my mac is old ver, but I think yes, adapters just change the type of USB!

For a USB type C device, it must be explicitly designed so that it supports direct USB-C to USB-C connections. In particular, the correct arrangement of pull up and pull down resistors must be in place so that a device functions in this configuration. See the following document: http://www.ti.com/lit/wp/slly017/slly017.pdf

From that document: "Noticeably absent from the USB Type-C receptacle is the ID pin. The determination of host or peripheral functionality is handled differently in Type-C. Here, the host or peripheral detection is done through monitoring channel configuration (CC) pins (CC1/CC2) while toggling at a specific interval between a pull-up resistor and pull-down resistor. Depending on the voltage level detected on the CC pins after a defined de-bounce time, the device becomes either a host or a peripheral."

I'm curious to know if the DO60 is designed with the correct pull up/down resistors to determine that it will be a peripheral in a USB-C to USB-C configuration?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #135 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 19:54:31 »
Hi guys!
We're  we're Doyu Studio and I'm sennin32.
We're too busy to launch this project this year although we've already edited it.

Support layouts : http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/a1bef8bf2784f5d009c96665a19bfc5e

Update 2018 Jan 23 :
GB Launched!
Geekhack link : (Waiting for approve)https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93685.0
GB Link : https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/001pcb60s

Pic of prototyping :
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More pics : https://imgur.com/a/Rb8hf
end of Update 2018 Jan 23 :

Update 2017 DEC 11 :
We found ws2812b is too sensitive to temperature.
First sampling is using normal setting while smt processing.
Makes the failure rate too high.
We're going to make second batch and change the setting.
end of Update 2017 DEC 11 :


Do your own GH60 now! if you never have one before.

IC Link : https://goo.gl/forms/yZyEVn9wiEkqli392

This will be the layout support by final design
Show Image


We'll also make aluminum plate with anodized.
Makes your project colorful.

Features:
1. Available for standard arrows
2. Keep Shift on the right hand
3. Won't change alpha layout
4. USB Type C
5. RGB underglow LEDs presoldered
6. Both work with ANSI and ISO
7. Switches light support
8. Gold plated soldering pads
9. Split spacebar, support both Filco type 3u Spacebar and 2.75u Keycap
10. SMD parts pre-soldered
11. 3u sacebar*2, use them evenly.
12. QMK ready
13. alpha shifted support

Processing:
Plate Prototyping Processing
add one more extra keys on the right of sapce bar, let 6.25u with arrow
PCB Prototyping Finished, https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91773.msg2531169#msg2531169
Manufacturer Plate
Manufacturer PCB
Case design Check it out here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92790.0

About manufacturing:
Takes around 2 months to manufacture

Pricing:
PCB : $30 Looking for higher quantity, and make the price as low as $25
Plate : $17 each Hope we can do it with only $12 after higher quantity
Stabilizer : $6 each for 7*2u and 1*6.25u

Not sure if I missed it, but how is the PCB programmed?

I would’ve liked the screw hole areas as an oval shape instead of circles, as some cases are a bit funky with placement (Like the Tina with the older Bfake PCB’s).

Anyway, great price I will probably join.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #136 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 20:15:40 »
Hi guys!
We're  we're Doyu Studio and I'm sennin32.
We're too busy to launch this project this year although we've already edited it.

Support layouts : http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/a1bef8bf2784f5d009c96665a19bfc5e

Update 2018 Jan 23 :
GB Launched!
Geekhack link : (Waiting for approve)https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93685.0
GB Link : https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/001pcb60s

Pic of prototyping :
Show Image

Show Image

Show Image

Show Image


More pics : https://imgur.com/a/Rb8hf
end of Update 2018 Jan 23 :

Update 2017 DEC 11 :
We found ws2812b is too sensitive to temperature.
First sampling is using normal setting while smt processing.
Makes the failure rate too high.
We're going to make second batch and change the setting.
end of Update 2017 DEC 11 :


Do your own GH60 now! if you never have one before.

IC Link : https://goo.gl/forms/yZyEVn9wiEkqli392

This will be the layout support by final design
Show Image


We'll also make aluminum plate with anodized.
Makes your project colorful.

Features:
1. Available for standard arrows
2. Keep Shift on the right hand
3. Won't change alpha layout
4. USB Type C
5. RGB underglow LEDs presoldered
6. Both work with ANSI and ISO
7. Switches light support
8. Gold plated soldering pads
9. Split spacebar, support both Filco type 3u Spacebar and 2.75u Keycap
10. SMD parts pre-soldered
11. 3u sacebar*2, use them evenly.
12. QMK ready
13. alpha shifted support

Processing:
Plate Prototyping Processing
add one more extra keys on the right of sapce bar, let 6.25u with arrow
PCB Prototyping Finished, https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91773.msg2531169#msg2531169
Manufacturer Plate
Manufacturer PCB
Case design Check it out here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92790.0

About manufacturing:
Takes around 2 months to manufacture

Pricing:
PCB : $30 Looking for higher quantity, and make the price as low as $25
Plate : $17 each Hope we can do it with only $12 after higher quantity
Stabilizer : $6 each for 7*2u and 1*6.25u

Not sure if I missed it, but how is the PCB programmed?

I would’ve liked the screw hole areas as an oval shape instead of circles, as some cases are a bit funky with placement (Like the Tina with the older Bfake PCB’s).

Anyway, great price I will probably join.  :thumb:

It will run QMK. Regarding the screw holes, from Doyu's GB page, it has been stated that they will do exactly this!

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #137 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 21:32:13 »
Hi guys!
We're  we're Doyu Studio and I'm sennin32.
We're too busy to launch this project this year although we've already edited it.

Support layouts : http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/a1bef8bf2784f5d009c96665a19bfc5e

Update 2018 Jan 23 :
GB Launched!
Geekhack link : (Waiting for approve)https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93685.0
GB Link : https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/001pcb60s

Pic of prototyping :
Show Image

Show Image

Show Image

Show Image


More pics : https://imgur.com/a/Rb8hf
end of Update 2018 Jan 23 :

Update 2017 DEC 11 :
We found ws2812b is too sensitive to temperature.
First sampling is using normal setting while smt processing.
Makes the failure rate too high.
We're going to make second batch and change the setting.
end of Update 2017 DEC 11 :


Do your own GH60 now! if you never have one before.

IC Link : https://goo.gl/forms/yZyEVn9wiEkqli392

This will be the layout support by final design
Show Image


We'll also make aluminum plate with anodized.
Makes your project colorful.

Features:
1. Available for standard arrows
2. Keep Shift on the right hand
3. Won't change alpha layout
4. USB Type C
5. RGB underglow LEDs presoldered
6. Both work with ANSI and ISO
7. Switches light support
8. Gold plated soldering pads
9. Split spacebar, support both Filco type 3u Spacebar and 2.75u Keycap
10. SMD parts pre-soldered
11. 3u sacebar*2, use them evenly.
12. QMK ready
13. alpha shifted support

Processing:
Plate Prototyping Processing
add one more extra keys on the right of sapce bar, let 6.25u with arrow
PCB Prototyping Finished, https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91773.msg2531169#msg2531169
Manufacturer Plate
Manufacturer PCB
Case design Check it out here : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92790.0

About manufacturing:
Takes around 2 months to manufacture

Pricing:
PCB : $30 Looking for higher quantity, and make the price as low as $25
Plate : $17 each Hope we can do it with only $12 after higher quantity
Stabilizer : $6 each for 7*2u and 1*6.25u

Not sure if I missed it, but how is the PCB programmed?

I would’ve liked the screw hole areas as an oval shape instead of circles, as some cases are a bit funky with placement (Like the Tina with the older Bfake PCB’s).

Anyway, great price I will probably join.  :thumb:

It will run QMK. Regarding the screw holes, from Doyu's GB page, it has been stated that they will do exactly this!

Sweet! Thank you so much for the info!!

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #138 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 22:04:52 »
with usb c
all i need is a single cable if i use this with macbook pro 2016?

I never tried cause my mac is old ver, but I think yes, adapters just change the type of USB!

For a USB type C device, it must be explicitly designed so that it supports direct USB-C to USB-C connections. In particular, the correct arrangement of pull up and pull down resistors must be in place so that a device functions in this configuration. See the following document: http://www.ti.com/lit/wp/slly017/slly017.pdf

From that document: "Noticeably absent from the USB Type-C receptacle is the ID pin. The determination of host or peripheral functionality is handled differently in Type-C. Here, the host or peripheral detection is done through monitoring channel configuration (CC) pins (CC1/CC2) while toggling at a specific interval between a pull-up resistor and pull-down resistor. Depending on the voltage level detected on the CC pins after a defined de-bounce time, the device becomes either a host or a peripheral."

I'm curious to know if the DO60 is designed with the correct pull up/down resistors to determine that it will be a peripheral in a USB-C to USB-C configuration?

Hi,
The schematic is unconnected for cc pins.
Cause 32u4 support only usb2.0.
The features in 3.1 is not useful for the chip right now.

Why usb-c?
It will become more popular in the future.
If we change the chip for supporting more features in the future, it might become useful.
And most important!! It doesn't care direction, you will use it without annoying while plug it.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #139 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 22:17:32 »
Not sure if I missed it, but how is the PCB programmed?

I would’ve liked the screw hole areas as an oval shape instead of circles, as some cases are a bit funky with placement (Like the Tina with the older Bfake PCB’s).

Anyway, great price I will probably join.  :thumb:
QMK for now.
And we're working on how to program qmk without any command line.

The screw hole is what we're going to change.
We found the issue you mentioned as well.
Some cases is not able to use for circles drill.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #140 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 10:54:38 »
with usb c
all i need is a single cable if i use this with macbook pro 2016?

I never tried cause my mac is old ver, but I think yes, adapters just change the type of USB!

Thank you for the fast response. I'll get the Shifted ZXCVB ISO.  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #141 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 13:38:39 »
Hi,
The schematic is unconnected for cc pins.
Cause 32u4 support only usb2.0.
The features in 3.1 is not useful for the chip right now.

Why usb-c?
It will become more popular in the future.
If we change the chip for supporting more features in the future, it might become useful.
And most important!! It doesn't care direction, you will use it without annoying while plug it.

Thank you for your thorough reply, and letting me know about the schematic, I really appreciate it. I agree, it's awesome to see more PCBs with USB-C, and I'm glad you are using it.

Unfortunately, even though it's a USB 2.0 device, if the CC pins are floating, I don't believe it will work in a direct USB-C to USB-C configuration (i.e. you would need a USB-C to USB-A cable, then an OTG adapter with USB-A female on the computer with the USB-C port). Even thought it's USB2.0, the CC pins need pull-down resistors to allow USB-C to USB-C connections. It would be really cool to see this, maybe in a rev. 2 of the board!

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #142 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 07:45:57 »
Hi,
The schematic is unconnected for cc pins.
Cause 32u4 support only usb2.0.
The features in 3.1 is not useful for the chip right now.

Why usb-c?
It will become more popular in the future.
If we change the chip for supporting more features in the future, it might become useful.
And most important!! It doesn't care direction, you will use it without annoying while plug it.

Thank you for your thorough reply, and letting me know about the schematic, I really appreciate it. I agree, it's awesome to see more PCBs with USB-C, and I'm glad you are using it.

Unfortunately, even though it's a USB 2.0 device, if the CC pins are floating, I don't believe it will work in a direct USB-C to USB-C configuration (i.e. you would need a USB-C to USB-A cable, then an OTG adapter with USB-A female on the computer with the USB-C port). Even thought it's USB2.0, the CC pins need pull-down resistors to allow USB-C to USB-C connections. It would be really cool to see this, maybe in a rev. 2 of the board!
I'm checking this these days.
If cc pins have to connect to GND with pull down resistors.
We'll modify it this time.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #143 on: Wed, 31 January 2018, 08:28:15 »
I'm checking this these days.
If cc pins have to connect to GND with pull down resistors.
We'll modify it this time.

Thanks for looking into this! I'm looking forward to hearing about your findings.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #144 on: Wed, 31 January 2018, 09:48:16 »
I'm checking this these days.
If cc pins have to connect to GND with pull down resistors.
We'll modify it this time.

Thanks for looking into this! I'm looking forward to hearing about your findings.

Just to add some info, the following application note might be helpful. I know it deals with a different microcontroller, but it describes in general what is required for a legacy USB device in terms of the resistors on the CC lines when using a USB Type-C connector. In particular, there's a schematic on pg. 16 that might help.

http://www.st.com/resource/en/application_note/dm00235987.pdf

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #145 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 04:16:33 »
I see that there is a header in the middle of the keyboard. Is that something that I could use for maybe adding extra keys or LEDs?
« Last Edit: Thu, 08 February 2018, 04:33:00 by Findecanor »

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #146 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 06:32:36 »
I see that there is a header in the middle of the keyboard. Is that something that I could use for maybe adding extra keys or LEDs?

No,
It is for testing.
We'll remove it :)

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #147 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 09:16:46 »
No,
It is for testing.
Ah. Nah, well. That's what I thought anyway. Thanks for answering.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #148 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 12:03:55 »
Whoops, wrong thread!
« Last Edit: Thu, 08 February 2018, 12:14:06 by Unforgivable »

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #149 on: Mon, 12 February 2018, 00:24:18 »
I'm checking this these days.
If cc pins have to connect to GND with pull down resistors.
We'll modify it this time.

Thanks for looking into this! I'm looking forward to hearing about your findings.

Just to add some info, the following application note might be helpful. I know it deals with a different microcontroller, but it describes in general what is required for a legacy USB device in terms of the resistors on the CC lines when using a USB Type-C connector. In particular, there's a schematic on pg. 16 that might help.

http://www.st.com/resource/en/application_note/dm00235987.pdf

Hi,
Thank you, we've solve the issue by add resistors.
And it works with nex Mac pro type-c now.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #150 on: Mon, 12 February 2018, 08:03:28 »
Hi,
Thank you, we've solve the issue by add resistors.
And it works with nex Mac pro type-c now.

Great! I'm really glad to hear that. Thank you for doing the work to ensure it's compatible in a USB-C to USB-C configuration. I think that really adds a lot of value to your PCB. Really looking forward to getting my DO60s :)

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #151 on: Mon, 12 February 2018, 09:30:15 »
I'm checking this these days.
If cc pins have to connect to GND with pull down resistors.
We'll modify it this time.

Thanks for looking into this! I'm looking forward to hearing about your findings.

This is good work here. Thank you sennin.

Just to add some info, the following application note might be helpful. I know it deals with a different microcontroller, but it describes in general what is required for a legacy USB device in terms of the resistors on the CC lines when using a USB Type-C connector. In particular, there's a schematic on pg. 16 that might help.

http://www.st.com/resource/en/application_note/dm00235987.pdf

Hi,
Thank you, we've solve the issue by add resistors.
And it works with nex Mac pro type-c now.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #152 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 04:21:09 »
Is 1.5--1--1.5--3--3--1.5--1--1--1.5 supported?
The link with all supported layouts says it is, but looking at the photo of the PCB, I can't spot the corresponding switch / stabilizer holes.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #153 on: Wed, 28 February 2018, 22:32:20 »
Is 1.5--1--1.5--3--3--1.5--1--1--1.5 supported?
The link with all supported layouts says it is, but looking at the photo of the PCB, I can't spot the corresponding switch / stabilizer holes.
cause it will happen after v0.2.8.
Does not offer in 0.2.7

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Reply #154 on: Fri, 02 March 2018, 11:53:29 »
Did you measure it?
If it is too long, the stabiliser will rattle because there would be too much free space so it wouldnt be able to accommodate thick and thin pcb at the same time. I can imagine screw in stabs working though.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #155 on: Sat, 17 March 2018, 11:20:14 »
I bought one about 2 weeks ago and am super excited for it!

When will the PCB ship, though?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #156 on: Sat, 17 March 2018, 11:40:54 »
I think its been more than 2weeks.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #157 on: Sun, 18 March 2018, 17:56:45 »
This is from Discord: "We found manufacturer modify our file manually, and that makes 2 component inverse. That causes light problem, we’ve ask them to process exactly as our pos file"
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #158 on: Sun, 18 March 2018, 17:59:05 »
Thanks for the update.

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #159 on: Mon, 19 March 2018, 10:40:06 »
Damn,
They ask for extra charge for new sample even the issue is because of them  >:D

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #160 on: Sat, 26 May 2018, 06:44:31 »
will you make a rerun?

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #161 on: Sun, 03 June 2018, 19:03:21 »
Yes, please. I need me some, too. Especially if that USB C to USB C works!

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #162 on: Sun, 15 July 2018, 05:57:37 »
Hi,
Guys we've sent all the orders except 3.
They didn't reply me about the color issue (We miscalculate the color, so black one is not enough :confused:)
If you guys haven't received your pcb, please tell me :)

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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #163 on: Sun, 15 July 2018, 19:03:42 »
Hi,
Guys we've sent all the orders except 3.
They didn't reply me about the color issue (We miscalculate the color, so black one is not enough :confused:)
If you guys haven't received your pcb, please tell me :)

Can confirm I have received mine about a week ago.
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #164 on: Mon, 16 July 2018, 11:52:22 »
I didn't receive mine yet (2 PCBs & 2 universal shifted ZXCVB ISO plates in grey) nor did I get a shipping notification

Order # 000002148
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Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2018 Jan 23
« Reply #165 on: Sat, 15 September 2018, 06:20:37 »
Hi,
The Group has ended several months ago.
We got some extra PCBs.
If you missed this groupbuy but still want to get one.
Check it here : https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/001pcb60