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[IC] JTK Hana (Final renders in, GB soon)
« on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:27:17 »
Base (tentative layout):


Extras (tentative layout):




Base kit and extras kit have been decided upon, and the GB should be coming very soon (maybe even today as of 4/27/18)!.
Thanks to JTK, zFrontier and everybody who gave your input. Looking forward to Hana in a new profile :)


*note: layouts may not be final until the group buy on zFrontier occurs!
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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:28:54 »
Yes. Finally.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:29:04 »
I’d be into this

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:30:37 »
I'm in

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:31:10 »
Any hopes for a Macha add-on set?

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:32:33 »
omg yes

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:33:14 »
This would be really nice  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:35:29 »
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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:36:04 »
pink split spacebar plz! XD

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:37:56 »
I’d be into this
I'm in
omg yes
This would be really nice  :thumb:
Yes. Finally.
YES

Awesome to hear the great response so quickly!

Any hopes for a Macha add-on set?

It isn't impossible, but the current extras set is already quite loaded for being JTK. I have thought about it however.
If I see a lot more people requesting it then I might be able to move some keys around (maybe remove pink f-row in favor of some green keys?).

pink split spacebar plz! XD

Same situation as above.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:39:21 »
Any estimate as to how much that extras kit may cost?  Novelty pricing is pretty much an unknown with JTK so I'm just curious. 

Also would it be possible to add topre spacebars?  The JTK Sophomore GB had cherry profile topre spacebars to match all the sets, though I am not sure if those were actually made by JTK or someone else.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:39:40 »
oh my god.
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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:40:37 »
I know this may be too early for this question but have you brainstormed pricing with JTK/ZF at all? Namely the novelties seeing as JTK's moulds are a ton more expensive than GMK ones are nowadays, I wonder how economically feasible such a huge kit would be; just curious as to me that's such an integral part of Hana.

Edit: beaten to the punch it seems!

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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:42:19 »
 a little late? but yes..

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:51:10 »
Any reason for JTK over GMK? I love JTK, but GMK's novelty pricing is much cheaper.
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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:52:57 »
quick clarification : the high cost for JT novelty key is due to low purchase amount in comparison with GMK . If at the same purchase amount with GMK, the cost for JT novelty key  sharply decreased

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:54:58 »
Does this use exactly same color as SP?


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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 21:56:02 »
quick clarification : the high cost for JT novelty key is due to low purchase amount in comparison with GMK . If at the same purchase amount with GMK, the cost for JT novelty key  sharply decreased

Can they do $175 a pop with realistic numbers? It appears GMK drastically reduced their mould costs to like 150€ because of some new equipment they bought.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 22:03:25 »
Ohhhhhhhhh niiiiiceeee


Wait, are there really 2 types of 2u Ctrl? I think just pick one and better give the other more neutral  legend like Super and Meta (or Command, sorry I have to say this as a macOS user eventho it is OS spesific)



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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 22:08:58 »
I do think that GMK could be a nice possibility considering the popularity of Hana. I also would like to suggest and ask if it would be possible to switch the box-arrow 1.5u Backspace to a regular Backspace arrow? I've wanted to see if JTK would be able to push for a new mold with that particular change. It's not a dealbreaker, but I think the regular backspace icon is superior to the box arrow.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 22:15:29 »
quick clarification : the high cost for JT novelty key is due to low purchase amount in comparison with GMK . If at the same purchase amount with GMK, the cost for JT novelty key  sharply decreased

Can they do $175 a pop with realistic numbers? It appears GMK drastically reduced their mould costs to like 150€ because of some new equipment they bought.

As I know, GMK carbon, nautilus and laser ,especially laser has lots of novelties, however the novelty kit reach a rather high number. The result is that we could buy those cool GMK novelty keys at pretty low price. The reason is that massdrop has super large potential customers
In the other hand, JTK has 50 or so MOQ and has never open GB on plant form such as mass drop. Recently exception is the 5 Fun JTK keys on MD. Actually, the lower purchase amount boost the cost of novelty keys.
I don't know exactly how much will be lowered, but the cost will decrease deeply at the same number as GMK carbon, nautilus and laser's novelty's high purchase amount.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 22:16:59 »
Any estimate as to how much that extras kit may cost?  Novelty pricing is pretty much an unknown with JTK so I'm just curious. 

Also would it be possible to add topre spacebars?  The JTK Sophomore GB had cherry profile topre spacebars to match all the sets, though I am not sure if those were actually made by JTK or someone else.
Any reason for JTK over GMK? I love JTK, but GMK's novelty pricing is much cheaper.
I know this may be too early for this question but have you brainstormed pricing with JTK/ZF at all? Namely the novelties seeing as JTK's moulds are a ton more expensive than GMK ones are nowadays, I wonder how economically feasible such a huge kit would be; just curious as to me that's such an integral part of Hana.

Edit: beaten to the punch it seems!

The extras kit price shouldn't be too unreasonable. I will try to get a ball park figure and I'll post that as soon as possible to confirm.


Does this use exactly same color as SP?

Yes. (RCJ, RCS, WFK)

Ohhhhhhhhh niiiiiceeee


Wait, are there really 2 types of 2u Ctrl? I think just pick one and better give the other more neutral  legend like Super and Meta (or Command, sorry I have to say this as a macOS user eventho it is OS spesific)


That is just JTK's default base kit. I don't think it would have much impact either way.


I do think that GMK could be a nice possibility considering the popularity of Hana. I also would like to suggest and ask if it would be possible to switch the box-arrow 1.5u Backspace to a regular Backspace arrow? I've wanted to see if JTK would be able to push for a new mold with that particular change. It's not a dealbreaker, but I think the regular backspace icon is superior to the box arrow.

I like GMK as well, but I'm all for competition and JTK is coming to the market with great (and increasing) quality and low prices. Availability and shipping times with GMK is also becoming more and more limited a la Signature Plastics, so it just doesn't make as much sense in my eyes.

JTK is the final choice for this round of Hana. Maybe GMK will be a thing one day, but no promises.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 22:18:05 »
quick clarification : the high cost for JT novelty key is due to low purchase amount in comparison with GMK . If at the same purchase amount with GMK, the cost for JT novelty key  sharply decreased

Can they do $175 a pop with realistic numbers? It appears GMK drastically reduced their mould costs to like 150€ because of some new equipment they bought.

If you are worried about more than $175 a pop, then you shouldn't be worried :)

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 22:25:53 »
Quote
I will try to get a ball park figure and I'll post that as soon as possible to confirm.

Around $50 is a reasonable estimate for the extras kit in its current state (don't come yelling if it ends up higher/lower).

So total set cost would be around $140 give or take.

Reasonable?

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 22:29:07 »
This is awesome! Really excited to see where it ends up.

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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 22:45:23 »
Quote
I will try to get a ball park figure and I'll post that as soon as possible to confirm.

Around $50 is a reasonable estimate for the extras kit in its current state (don't come yelling if it ends up higher/lower).

So total set cost would be around $140 give or take.

Reasonable?

$140 for both the base kit and the extras? That's a beautiful price!

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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 22:52:11 »
Oh, man,
I thought I got enough cherry profile sets but...this forces me definitely in.
Hope to see it real soon.  :thumb:

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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 23:13:54 »
 

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 23:45:57 »
i have dsa hana and absolutely love it. i don't like cherry and i'd still buy this :).

and just to be THAT person... sa hana would be nice too. ;)

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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 00:34:03 »
 :eek: :eek: I want Matcha Kit

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 00:40:07 »


I'm 100% in for this
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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 00:43:11 »
Oh
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Yes

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 01:40:12 »
Shame such a high-caliber set is going to JTK and not GMK.

Feels like getting a Dreamcast when you wanted a N64.

Oh well.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 02:15:48 »
What is wrong with JTK?

They have flawless legends!

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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 05:42:03 »
A little disappointed that HANA will run on JTK but not GMK, but still I'm 100% in it.
The novelties are awesome as DSA set, but have u decided to make a green tea kit or not? That is a soul kit as the pink modifiers IMO...
I'll definitely keep an eye on it  :))

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 05:48:34 »
Prefer GMK, but I'd probably still join this round.

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 07:20:24 »
I’m in for sure, was broke when Hana dropped this makes me feel better for missing it

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 08:47:16 »
What is wrong with JTK?

They have flawless legends!

Apparently they are fixing the legends for aqua. I guess we will see soon if that's true.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 09:09:14 »
As long as the colors are accurate with what I expect from Hana, +1

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« Reply #40 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 11:09:41 »
Macha kit macha kit macha kit :)
I'm in.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 13:14:12 »
What is wrong with JTK?

They have flawless legends!

Apparently they are fixing the legends for aqua. I guess we will see soon if that's true.

They also said that about every keyset lmao
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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 16:31:43 »
Praying aqua comes out well so I don't have wait x more years for this to be ran through GMK.

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« Reply #43 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 17:03:42 »
Praying aqua comes out well so I don't have wait x more years for this to be ran through GMK.

Or you know, just use a manufacture that outputs proven, quality results the first time rather than using a 3rd-rate manufacture.
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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 17:52:38 »
Excited for this awesome colorway being available in a sculpted profile. I am among those that would prefer paying the premium for GMK in order to get a quality product, but at the same time it won't bother me horribly much to get it in JTK since I'm just excited for the colorway being available.

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« Reply #45 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 18:48:19 »
+1 for macha kit and split spacebar pack. 2.75 1.25 and 2.25 :D
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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 18:50:47 »
I don't have the historical context to Hana - is this a big set to be coming out? What is the theme/concept on the set?

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 18:51:37 »
Excited for this awesome colorway being available in a sculpted profile. I am among those that would prefer paying the premium for GMK in order to get a quality product, but at the same time it won't bother me horribly much to get it in JTK since I'm just excited for the colorway being available.
I agree with gmk, but I don't mind jtk either.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 19:25:33 »
Interested but concerned about the legends.

Is a test set a possibility to confirm the fixed legends? It's been promised a lot, and nothing has changed.

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Re: [IC] JTK Hana
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 19:44:55 »
I'm in depending on price ;)
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