Author Topic: Interest Check: Dolch key caps group buy (Read 74540 times)

jwaz · « **Reply #100 on:** Fri, 30 December 2011, 16:07:28 »

Damn Hazeluff you're putting in mad work (nice sig)! Thank you so much!

Like you said someone has to take the plunge and I'm hoping we can reduce the costs to make this economical and possible for people to use in future group buys.

hazeluff · « **Reply #101 on:** Fri, 30 December 2011, 16:42:16 »

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Damn Hazeluff you're putting in mad work (nice sig)! Thank you so much!

Like you said someone has to take the plunge and I'm hoping we can reduce the costs to make this economical and possible for people to use in future group buys.

Continuing work now. Can you check with Melissa about using SVGs that are of the "area" to be cut out. and not just a center line? Center line won't cut it cos the width is varied in the font.

hazeluff · « **Reply #102 on:** Fri, 30 December 2011, 22:17:22 »

Progress:

Guys let me know if something seems wrong.

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hashbaz · « **Reply #103 on:** Fri, 30 December 2011, 22:30:01 »

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Progress:

Guys let me know if something seems wrong.

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The shapes look fantastic. They all seem to be a bit too thick though? F looks a bit squished vertically.

hazeluff · « **Reply #104 on:** Fri, 30 December 2011, 22:34:12 »

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The shapes look fantastic. They all seem to be a bit too thick though? F looks a bit squished vertically.

I worked off this photo:
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In comparison I think W,E,F,N,M actually look too thick (you can see it in the corners). The others to me look as thick as it does in the photo. I think tho it might be because of how pixels are rendered. DPI/resolution is a bit low and I think some of the pixels rendered made it thicker, cos on my design (not exported) it looks ok.

Here's a larger resolution:
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Imo they look less "thick"/"chubby" when You look at it zoomed in. Tho I think W, O and M are actually a bit thick. I'll prob touch those ones up, but i don't know about the others. I need more feedback.

Note: I used consistent thickness for lines that I know are the same. (e.g The Vertical line of 'L' is the same thickness as the vertical line of 'M')

EDIT: Touched up W,O and M. (Quite subtle on W and M)

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hashbaz · « **Reply #105 on:** Fri, 30 December 2011, 23:21:15 »

Huh, interesting. The legends in your reference image definitely look chubbier than the Cherry 2-shots I'm typing on right now. I thought Dolch caps were the same, but maybe not... Experts, what say ye?

On the other hand, it could be the fact that the image is slightly blurry when viewed close up. My own close-up shots of Cherry keys also look chubby:

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litster · « **Reply #106 on:** Fri, 30 December 2011, 23:28:00 »

I took that picture with the crappy iphone4 camera. I could take the picture again with my 5D MkII later.

hazeluff · « **Reply #107 on:** Fri, 30 December 2011, 23:29:34 »

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Huh, interesting. The legends in your reference image definitely look chubbier than the Cherry 2-shots I'm typing on right now. I thought Dolch caps were the same, but maybe not... Experts, what say ye?

On the other hand, it could be the fact that the image is slightly blurry when viewed close up. My own close-up shots of Cherry keys also look chubby:

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Your close-ups aren't blurry, The edges seem quite well defined and yeah it looks a bit chubby (i.e similar to the photo I've been working off of). It might be a matter of perspective. If it's actually thinner when you look at it in real life and a few people agree I'll go back and change them. For now I'll leave it.

hashbaz · « **Reply #108 on:** Fri, 30 December 2011, 23:32:29 »

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Your close-ups aren't blurry, The edges seem quite well defined and yeah it looks a chubby (i.e similar to the photo I've been working off of). It might be a matter of perspective. If it's actually thinner when you look at it in real life and a few people agree I'll go back and change them. For now I'll leave it.

If the images don't look blurry ... you need to go deeper. The lines aren't crisp when viewed at full-resolution (not zoomed).

hazeluff · « **Reply #109 on:** Fri, 30 December 2011, 23:39:12 »

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If the images don't look blurry ... you need to go deeper. The lines aren't crisp when viewed at full-resolution (not zoomed).

Fairly clean.

Anyway, time for a break.

Please other people let me know if it looks "too thick". I'm siding with it probably is, I just want some more people to make sure.

Forin · « **Reply #110 on:** Sat, 31 December 2011, 06:00:56 »

I'm interested in Dolch color scheme (grey) keycaps.

hazeluff · « **Reply #111 on:** Sat, 31 December 2011, 12:48:00 »

Someone posted a classified with amazing photo of a cherry keyboard:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?25555-NIB-Cherry-G80-2551HAD-with-beautiful-doubleshots

Totally illustrates how my lettering is too thick. Will go and work on that sometime.

jwaz · « **Reply #112 on:** Sat, 31 December 2011, 13:24:46 »

Guess they take Fridays off, I just left her a message...

hashbaz · « **Reply #113 on:** Sat, 31 December 2011, 13:50:27 »

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Guess they take Fridays off, I just left here a message...

SP has been off since the 23rd I think. But yeah, they do take Fridays off normally as well.

DraJin · « **Reply #114 on:** Sun, 01 January 2012, 06:09:19 »

I'm interested.

hazeluff · « **Reply #115 on:** Sun, 01 January 2012, 20:30:02 »

Ok redid the images. They are thinner now.

First try:
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Newest try:
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litster · « **Reply #116 on:** Sun, 01 January 2012, 20:42:51 »

Thin is in! Nice!

DaemonRaccoon · « **Reply #117 on:** Sun, 01 January 2012, 20:44:52 »

The thin looks wonky, the R and P are too narrow, I'd change the width of the lines instead, while keeping the overall character width intact.

hazeluff · « **Reply #118 on:** Sun, 01 January 2012, 20:47:47 »

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The thin looks wonky, the R and P are too narrow, I'd change the width of the lines instead, well keeping the overall character width intact.

By the way that is what I did...(Obv the overall character width gets shorter if I decrease the widths on line.)

Edit: Maybe I should of compensated for that...
How does this look?
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hashbaz · « **Reply #119 on:** Sun, 01 January 2012, 22:25:16 »

Those look fantastic. Your SVGs have already kept their New Year's resolution to shed the chub.

DaemonRaccoon · « **Reply #120 on:** Sun, 01 January 2012, 22:27:45 »

Quote from: hazeluff;481652

By the way that is what I did...(Obv the overall character width gets shorter if I decrease the widths on line.)

Edit: Maybe I should of compensated for that...
How does this look?
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That looks much better.

hazeluff · « **Reply #121 on:** Sun, 01 January 2012, 22:32:53 »

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That looks much better.

Aweshum!

I'll get on with the rest of the keys later = p. (not looking forward to writing "Page up" and "Page Down"...).

jpm804 · « **Reply #122 on:** Mon, 02 January 2012, 01:57:49 »

Quote from: hazeluff;481652

By the way that is what I did...(Obv the overall character width gets shorter if I decrease the widths on line.)

Edit: Maybe I should of compensated for that...
How does this look?
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Looks good to me...

mehkat1974 · « **Reply #123 on:** Mon, 02 January 2012, 03:07:25 »

oh jpm you got the red one, cant believe I missed that group buy lol

aoya · « **Reply #124 on:** Fri, 06 January 2012, 21:16:54 »

Sorry if this has already been answered, but how close is this to coming to fruition?

jwaz · « **Reply #125 on:** Fri, 06 January 2012, 23:12:09 »

Hazleluff is working on the legends for the keys. When I have an estimate on the price per kit I'll post it in the OP and tally up the names and see if it is doable for a somewhat reasonable price.

hashbaz · « **Reply #126 on:** Fri, 06 January 2012, 23:46:02 »

Hazle: Did Melissa and/or cycloverid get back to you about the path vs. area SVG approach?

jellowiggler · « **Reply #127 on:** Sat, 07 January 2012, 00:18:45 »

Interested.

hazeluff · « **Reply #128 on:** Sat, 07 January 2012, 02:04:50 »

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Hazle: Did Melissa and/or cycloverid get back to you about the path vs. area SVG approach?

Cycloverid never got back to me. And I asked OP to ask melissa since hes in charge of this buy. = / Also want to check with OP if we're remaking the Moogle kit parts as well (They look close, and I don't think I can make it any better (The lines are thin)).

(I gotta take a break from making the SVGs, I've got 2 courswork due next friday)

jwaz · « **Reply #129 on:** Sat, 07 January 2012, 02:36:57 »

will post tomorrow morning with her response.

hazeluff · « **Reply #130 on:** Sat, 07 January 2012, 02:47:00 »

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will post tomorrow morning with her response.

Cheers~

laikaislost · « **Reply #131 on:** Sat, 07 January 2012, 03:39:32 »

Those look awesome Hazeluff! Is the 'M' thicker than the rest though?

If the price ends up remotely reasonable, count me in for a set.

hazeluff · « **Reply #132 on:** Sat, 07 January 2012, 03:42:10 »

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Those look awesome Hazeluff! Is the 'M' thicker than the rest though?

If the price ends up remotely reasonable, count me in for a set.

Good catch. I had made it thinner before I redid all the other keys. Will fix it on my end (won't be posting up a update till I finish a nother bunch of keys).

Thanks

jwaz · « **Reply #133 on:** Sat, 07 January 2012, 15:11:06 »

Edit: Deskthority post:

http://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1785

hazeluff · « **Reply #134 on:** Sat, 07 January 2012, 16:27:09 »

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Would you mind if I posted it at Deskthority? Those guys might have some good insight.

I don't know why you need to ask.

trax · « **Reply #135 on:** Sat, 07 January 2012, 18:38:33 »

Yes
For ALPS to please.

jwaz · « **Reply #136 on:** Sun, 08 January 2012, 22:34:17 »

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Here's a good comparison

suprsmo · « **Reply #137 on:** Mon, 09 January 2012, 04:21:38 »

I'd be keen for a set

hazeluff · « **Reply #138 on:** Mon, 09 January 2012, 07:50:35 »

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Here's a good comparison

Beautiful Photo.

I've noticed that:

-The arch in the A is too high
-The Leg of K is no far out enough
-Quotation marks are too thick
-slash needs to be slightly more angled(?)
-Question mark is too thick
- signs are too thick
-Comma needs a slighly longer thingy ( I have no idea what that bit is called? a tail?)

Did you scan the keyboard, cos it certainly looks like it >< cos thats perfect cos we don't get parallax error.

Reptile · « **Reply #139 on:** Mon, 09 January 2012, 13:59:40 »

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Not R3. Ugly.

What did R3 look like?

hashbaz · « **Reply #140 on:** Mon, 09 January 2012, 14:15:32 »

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What did R3 look like?

I like the big, centered font, but the all-capital, bizarrely variable-width modifiers and such look bad. Look at Control and Backspace. wtf?

Reptile · « **Reply #141 on:** Mon, 09 January 2012, 15:50:55 »

I still don't understand why it is so hard to get replica cherry font/symbols. I believe sixty on deskthority said he even had the real font but cannot share?

This bugs and baffles me at the same time lol

jwaz · « **Reply #142 on:** Mon, 09 January 2012, 15:58:05 »

I saw that post by Sixty as well and am not sure what he meant. Perhaps some sort of copyright issue?

hazeluff · « **Reply #143 on:** Mon, 09 January 2012, 16:02:51 »

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I saw that post by Sixty as well and am not sure what he meant. Perhaps some sort of copyright issue?

Most Likely.

hashbaz · « **Reply #144 on:** Mon, 09 January 2012, 16:11:58 »

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I saw that post by Sixty as well and am not sure what he meant. Perhaps some sort of copyright issue?

*sigh*

We should start a poll to convince Cherry to sell us new 2-shot sets (with center-stemmed modifiers and capslock of course).

Reptile · « **Reply #145 on:** Mon, 09 January 2012, 17:48:36 »

I understand copyright issues but cmon no one has sourced it? Even if you changed one small thing you could get past that :evil:

hashbaz · « **Reply #146 on:** Mon, 09 January 2012, 22:36:41 »

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I understand copyright issues but cmon no one has sourced it? Even if you changed one small thing you could get past that :evil:

Maybe, technically. You have to convince SP though. : /

hazeluff · « **Reply #147 on:** Tue, 10 January 2012, 08:27:26 »

Anyway,

OP (I call him OP cos I can't remember his name correctly) has spoken with Melissa about making the font. Unfortunately it has to be a centerline for the font (i.e. Single thickness for the font). This means we won't get as much detail (and I have to "redraw" them).

dorkvader · « **Reply #148 on:** Tue, 10 January 2012, 08:28:23 »

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Maybe, technically. You have to convince SP though. : /

What font is it, commercial licenses aren't usually that expensive...

hashbaz · « **Reply #149 on:** Tue, 10 January 2012, 11:31:09 »

It's a custom font, owned by Cherry.

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Author Topic: Interest Check: Dolch key caps group buy (Read 74540 times)