[IC] Modernized OTD PCBs and reproduction plates

[kawasaki161]

This has been a project of mine for a while now and I finally think I reached a spot where these could go into production.

So, what's this about?

People who own OTD keyboards know that the PCBs can be a royal pain in the butt. They are PS/2 only and a good amount of them aren't reprogrammable. Maybe they've been desoldered and patched up by the previous owners, maybe even completely destroyed. Seeing some of the original PCBs trading for rather high 3 figures, it's time to put an end to this.
This IC is about a new PCB that matches the original one as closely as possible while still offering most of the advancements we had in PCBs since then.
The person who graciously lent me an OTD to take measurements from was interested in making an Alps build, so I had to take plate measurements as well and ended up making all kinds of different plate configurations, some of these are likely to be offered too.

PCB specs:

• USB but you'll have to hardwire a cable, just like the original PCBs did with the PS/2 cable
• Fits: OTD 356.2, 360c, 456gt, The Cheat, (356n and 356n mkii, but only with a different plate because it does not support the original layout), and is very likely to fit 356cl, 356cl DGE and 356cls, so every TKL except the 356l
• Layout: Normal WKL TKL layout with and without blockers
• Material: 1.2mm thick CEM-3 with red Soldermask, just like most of the original PCBs
• LED indicators for Caps Lock and Scroll Lock
• Supports MX and ALPS switches, with all possible caps lock positions with ALPS switches
• Powered my an Atmega32u4, so programmable via QMK and TMK (even Keyplus if you want)
• Fully assembled, no in-switch diode soldering like on the original PCBs

Plates:
In case some people have a working original PCB but still want to upgrade to this one I'll be likely offering plates too. These are as close to the original as possible and have all of the little slits and cuts and everything.

Many different materials and layouts (two versions of ALPS fullplate, MX fullplate, MX halfplate, etc.) are technically possible but not all of them would make it, so if you are interested in plates fill out the form accordingly. The plate is based on the 456gt plate and fits the 456gt, 360c and 356.2. It does not fit the Cheat, the 356cl and the 356cl DGE. Fitment on 356n and 356n mkii is not confirmed but possible.


Misc. parts:
If there's enough demand sourcing a nice thick coiled USB cables that go well with the PCB could be a possibility.
Another possible addon could be precut bandaids because the PCBs are 1.2mm thick and as such benefit a lot from band aids.

Form: https://forms.gle/QkhtA93TxV1m9N9m7

If anyone gets the chance to crosspost this into foreign forums, mainly chinese and korean ones, I'd be grateful because I don't speak those languages and don't trust google translate enough for that.

Pics(Sorry for the bad pics, I forgot to take good ones when I still had the PCB here, I'll make some new renders later):


These pics are from an old version without the support for winkeys, everything else is the same

[kawasaki161]

Q&A:

This will be filled with more or less important questions over time.

Q: Do you plan on releasing the files?
A: Yes, after the GB.

Q: Ne ISO avail?
A: no

[zekkin]

This man is doing Korean Jesus' work.

[LightningXI]

This is pretty cool!

Ne otd avail?

[pr0ximity]

Do you plan on releasing the files? Would be great to open source them so you're not perpetuating the problem of scarcity.

[kawasaki161]

Do you plan on releasing the files? Would be great to open source them so you're not perpetuating the problem of scarcity.

Yes, after the GB ofc.

[pr0ximity]

Do you plan on releasing the files? Would be great to open source them so you're not perpetuating the problem of scarcity.

Yes, after the GB ofc.

Nice!

[DasGnome]

Fantastic, my only small problem is that I don't own an OTD board...

[otanishock]

Paging stolenweapon.

[azhdar]

No ISO

[HPE1000]

filled out form

Half plate would be cool for sure

[limitz]

Long overdue. There were listing on Taobao for OTD compatible plate/pcbs a few years ago, but have completely disappeared now. This is welcome.

[HPE1000]

Long overdue. There were listing on Taobao for OTD compatible plate/pcbs a few years ago, but have completely disappeared now. This is welcome.

Yep, I came into possession of one of those recently. They aren't programmable but they do have backlight support which is interesting.

[SixtyLife]

[pr0ximity]

Any plans for a 356mini PCB?

[kawasaki161]

Any plans for a 356mini PCB?

I wouldn't mind making one but I didn't get the chance to do that yet.

[notflipperdan420]

 

[Puddsy]

which 356 boards is this compatible with

[LightningXI]

which 356 boards is this compatible with

You should read the OP

[Puddsy]

which 356 boards is this compatible with

You should read the OP

i usually skip the spec lists since everything is made of 6061 or brass

[zekkin]

which 356 boards is this compatible with

read the OP

[Puddsy]

which 356 boards is this compatible with

read the OP

tell me again so i can get more post count

[pr0ximity]

which 356 boards is this compatible with

read the OP

tell me again so i can get more post count

not nice

[stolenweapon]

cool

[___q]

Filled out the form, very excited about this

[xiaze1025]

Is this kind of behavior a counterfeit?

[Puddsy]

Is this kind of behavior a counterfeit?

i'd say no since it's not a case clone

[tex_live_utility]

Do you plan on releasing the files? Would be great to open source them so you're not perpetuating the problem of scarcity.

Yes, after the GB ofc.

Even as a non-OTD-owner this is good news. The more open designs the better.

[vegs]

Any plans for a 356mini PCB?

+1!

[futurecrime]

It's finally happening. I'm in for at least two. And plates. Oh yes. Let's go. x

[kawasaki161]

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Right now the numbers are looking like the following things will be definitely offered:
the PCBs (duh)
Alu full plates
Polycarb half plates
USB cables

It looks like the demand for all the other things is very low, with less than a hand full of people showing interest, so if you want something fill out the form. I'm probably not going to offer an option that only got one person interested in buying a single unit of unless that person is willing to pay one-off pricing.

[yicaoyimu]

Very interested in a PCB and full plate. Not a big fan of coiled USB cable.

[alisonica]

here's what it looks like assembled (not soldered yet) with a carbon fibre plate and skcm neon greens, lock, skcl green LED.

[Puddsy]

(Attachment Link)

here's what it looks like assembled (not soldered yet) with a carbon fibre plate and skcm neon greens, lock, skcl green LED.

i can hear the flexposting from here

[foxmancore]

would love some 

[alisonica]

i can hear the flexposting from here

I thought the whole point of OTD was about the flex?
PUN INTENDED 

[Puddsy]

i can hear the flexposting from here

I thought the whole point of OTD was about the flex?
PUN INTENDED 

they're no better than any modern tkl, in fact arguably worse

but they say 356 on them so everyone nuts themselves when they see pics of em

at least projects like this exist to try and close the gap

[ThomasTH]

i can hear the flexposting from here

I thought the whole point of OTD was about the flex?
PUN INTENDED 

they're no better than any modern tkl, in fact arguably worse

but they say 356 on them so everyone nuts themselves when they see pics of em

at least projects like this exist to try and close the gap

Bull****.

No modern tkl is as well thought through as the OTDs were, otd mini is still by far the best gasket mounted. All otds were done for a specific switch in mind, that alone shows there was more engineering involved than nowadays. The only thing that sucked was the annodozing at the time...

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[Puddsy]

i can hear the flexposting from here

I thought the whole point of OTD was about the flex?
PUN INTENDED 

they're no better than any modern tkl, in fact arguably worse

but they say 356 on them so everyone nuts themselves when they see pics of em

at least projects like this exist to try and close the gap

Bull****.

No modern tkl is as well thought through as the OTDs were, otd mini is still by far the best gasket mounted. All otds were done for a specific switch in mind, that alone shows there was more engineering involved than nowadays. The only thing that sucked was the annodozing at the time...

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i'll agree that mini is the exception, and maybe 356N

1) you have clearly never tried to program one of these boards with AIKON, the original firmware

to put it simply: do you use a 64 bit operating system later than windows XP? you can't use the software

so you open a VM

does your PC have a ps/2 port? if not, you can't write your firmware updates to the board in the first place. and you need some weird adapter to be able to do it as well

bootmapper helps it a little but there are a lot of weird bugs and quirks that gimp the functionality a bit

2) most of what makes the 356 boards "well thought out" has basically been proven to be weird pseudoscience at this point

there's not a lot of proof that anything eungsam did actually made any of the boards feel better

sound better sure, but with the recent uptick in lubing technique and sound obsession, we passed the 356 boards already (but that's subjective)

especially now that we've got more gasket mounted and integrated plate boards

what i can agree with is that they were first, and are important pieces of history

but to say that they're better than anything we have now is at the very least a big stretch

[Photekq]

Bull****.

No modern tkl is as well thought through as the OTDs were, otd mini is still by far the best gasket mounted. All otds were done for a specific switch in mind, that alone shows there was more engineering involved than nowadays. The only thing that sucked was the annodozing at the time...

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I agree with you when it comes to the aesthetics of the OTD boards, both inside and out. There's a certain tastefulness to them that I don't think has been matched by anything since. Of course, that's subjective, and perhaps the hype has just seeped into my subconscious over the years. I don't think there's anything particularly special about the mounting of any of them especially compared to keyboards made recently. Also, while they may have been done for a specific switch, that was only to a certain preference. For example, just because the 356N was made to compliment tactile switches does not mean it will suit everyone's mounting preference for tactile switches.

[meiosis]

Heh I'm typing on a $5000 board.

It's solely flex or history, even if it feels better ps2 is a waste. There's no reason for someone to "need" an otd.

But there is people hyping stuff up in comparison to OTD which is asking for a debate.

If you are truly happy with your keyboard there's no reason to have to justify it to other people, or constantly compare it to keyboards made 6 years ago. But at the same time I don't think any keyboards even if they are better in every way will hit the prestige that OTD has from being progressive back then.

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[Puddsy]

Heh I'm typing on a $5000 board.

It's solely flex or history, even if it feels better ps2 is a waste. There's no reason for someone to "need" an otd.

But there is people hyping stuff up in comparison to OTD which is asking for a debate.

If you are truly happy with your keyboard there's no reason to have to justify it to other people, or constantly compare it to keyboards made 6 years ago. But at the same time I don't think any keyboards even if they are better in every way will hit the prestige that OTD has from being progressive back then.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk

Bull****.

No modern tkl is as well thought through as the OTDs were, otd mini is still by far the best gasket mounted. All otds were done for a specific switch in mind, that alone shows there was more engineering involved than nowadays. The only thing that sucked was the annodozing at the time...

Sent from my LYA-L29 using Tapatalk

I agree with you when it comes to the aesthetics of the OTD boards, both inside and out. There's a certain tastefulness to them that I don't think has been matched by anything since. Of course, that's subjective, and perhaps the hype has just seeped into my subconscious over the years. I don't think there's anything particularly special about the mounting of any of them especially compared to keyboards made recently. Also, while they may have been done for a specific switch, that was only to a certain preference. For example, just because the 356N was made to compliment tactile switches does not mean it will suit everyone's mounting preference for tactile switches.

agree with both

it's about the history

[hineybush]

Why would you buy a car made in the 50's or 60's? Not because they're quicker, better handling, or more efficient than current day vehicles. You buy em because of the history

[HPE1000]

RGB when?

[pr0ximity]

Why would you buy a car made in the 50's or 60's? Not because they're quicker, better handling, or more efficient than current day vehicles. You buy em because of the history

Well said

[naasfu]

someone make a separate "do you regret buying your OTD"/"are OTD really worth it?" thread please.

i am hoping to get new PCBs + plates for my janky 360c.

[XtReeM1337n355]

I can’t wait for this to happen. I really need a new a plate + pcb. Also, hopefully the Alps combo gets enough traction too.

[Puddsy]

someone make a separate "do you regret buying your OTD"/"are OTD really worth it?" thread please.

i am hoping to get new PCBs + plates for my janky 360c.

short answer: no

long answer: nooooooooooooooo

[yicaoyimu]

someone make a separate "do you regret buying your OTD"/"are OTD really worth it?" thread please.

i am hoping to get new PCBs + plates for my janky 360c.

My only regret is I didn't buy more. OTD has been a great investment 

[romevi]

Are these compatible with TGR Jane v1s? I wasn't sure since TGR is better than OTD anyway.

[Puddsy]

Are these compatible with TGR Jane v1s? I wasn't sure since TGR is better than OTD anyway.

no

[yicaoyimu]

Are these compatible with TGR Jane v1s? I wasn't sure since TGR is better than OTD anyway.

Doesn't TGR use regular Leeku PCBs? If so then these won't be compatible.

[HPE1000]

someone make a separate "do you regret buying your OTD"/"are OTD really worth it?" thread please.

i am hoping to get new PCBs + plates for my janky 360c.

What is up with your corsa? Mine hasn't ever really caused me problems over the years outside of the frustration with having to use the blue box ps2 to usb converter. Windows 10 doesnt recognize the keyboard with the blue box unless I have 2 keyboards plugged in and press the caps lock on the other keyboard, then the corsa starts working, but im going to assume that is an issue with the blue box and not the keyboard.

Will for sure be happy to have some extra pcbs for this though. Would use this board a lot more if it was USB and programmable. Basically a deal breaker for me if my keyboard doesn't have media controls programmed into it.

[sl70309]

Any date for GB? I just got 360C recently..

[XtReeM1337n355]

Any updates? I’m lowkey going to buy 10 plates and 10 pcbs.

[kawasaki161]

Any date for GB? I just got 360C recently..

Any updates? I’m lowkey going to buy 10 plates and 10 pcbs.

No concrete updates yet, I'm still figuring ot the plate situation right now, I should have more concrete information next week.

[sl70309]

Please make this happen !!!!

[sl70309]

Any date for GB? I just got 360C recently..

Any updates? I’m lowkey going to buy 10 plates and 10 pcbs.

No concrete updates yet, I'm still figuring ot the plate situation right now, I should have more concrete information next week.

any update? this week is about to end 

[XtReeM1337n355]

Hey, any new updates? I just got my hands on some skcm neon greens and I'm dying to put them into my board!

[Full]

Oh wow, I really need this! Filled out the IC.

[kawasaki161]

Sorry guys, was pretty busy irl.
The last test plate failed QC sadly, next update will be once I have the plates figured out (give it 2 more weeks or so).

[stolenweapon]

 

[kawasaki161]

Guess I started the IC too early. Either way PCBs were finalized from the get go, if I only wanted to offer PCBs this could've been launched in may and delivered in june.
Whole factory woes blah blah blah you heard it 10 times in 9 GBs, just glad this happened before I launched the GB.

A delayed GB will be eventually good, but a rushed one will be bad forever.... or something like that. I'm doing everything I can to make the GB run smooth and to keep unexpected surprises to a minimum, hope you understand.

[sl70309]

Guess I started the IC too early. Either way PCBs were finalized from the get go, if I only wanted to offer PCBs this could've been launched in may and delivered in june.
Whole factory woes blah blah blah you heard it 10 times in 9 GBs, just glad this happened before I launched the GB.

A delayed GB will be eventually good, but a rushed one will be bad forever.... or something like that. I'm doing everything I can to make the GB run smooth and to keep unexpected surprises to a minimum, hope you understand.

what is the progress on plate now?

[kawasaki161]

Guess I started the IC too early. Either way PCBs were finalized from the get go, if I only wanted to offer PCBs this could've been launched in may and delivered in june.
Whole factory woes blah blah blah you heard it 10 times in 9 GBs, just glad this happened before I launched the GB.

A delayed GB will be eventually good, but a rushed one will be bad forever.... or something like that. I'm doing everything I can to make the GB run smooth and to keep unexpected surprises to a minimum, hope you understand.

what is the progress on plate now?

Should work out now, but it also should've worked out the last time so, not gonna give a date until I'm 10000000% certain.

[sl70309]

Guess I started the IC too early. Either way PCBs were finalized from the get go, if I only wanted to offer PCBs this could've been launched in may and delivered in june.
Whole factory woes blah blah blah you heard it 10 times in 9 GBs, just glad this happened before I launched the GB.

A delayed GB will be eventually good, but a rushed one will be bad forever.... or something like that. I'm doing everything I can to make the GB run smooth and to keep unexpected surprises to a minimum, hope you understand.

what is the progress on plate now?

Should work out now, but it also should've worked out the last time so, not gonna give a date until I'm 10000000% certain.

cool. i will buy 10 pcb and 10 plates if price is nice

[Puddsy]

Guess I started the IC too early. Either way PCBs were finalized from the get go, if I only wanted to offer PCBs this could've been launched in may and delivered in june.
Whole factory woes blah blah blah you heard it 10 times in 9 GBs, just glad this happened before I launched the GB.

A delayed GB will be eventually good, but a rushed one will be bad forever.... or something like that. I'm doing everything I can to make the GB run smooth and to keep unexpected surprises to a minimum, hope you understand.

what is the progress on plate now?

Should work out now, but it also should've worked out the last time so, not gonna give a date until I'm 10000000% certain.

cool. i will buy 10 pcb and 10 plates if price is nice

weird flex but ok

[sl70309]

I come to this thread everyday just to see if there is GB date...

[Puddsy]

I come to this thread everyday just to see if there is GB date...

you'll be here a while

[sl70309]

waiting !!!!

[sl70309]

waiting is painful 

[sl70309]

Dear OP,
Expecting an update from you. 

[futurecrime]

Dear OP,
Expecting an update from you. 

You should turn on notifications for this thread then you wouldn’t have to keep checking back here when there’s nothing to see.

[sl70309]

Dear OP,
Expecting an update from you. 

You should turn on notifications for this thread then you wouldn’t have to keep checking back here when there’s nothing to see.

thank you, just aware of this feature.

[XtReeM1337n355]

Is this still going to happen? I have a spare 360c pcb + plate and I’m considering making my own.

[sl70309]

Is this still going to happen? I have a spare 360c pcb + plate and I’m considering making my own.

i have been waiting for OP to open GB for ages..

[keyboardcircle]

Are you still planning to run this GB? long wait.

[pr0ximity]

Is this still going to happen? I have a spare 360c pcb + plate and I’m considering making my own.

You should do it 

[Atlantic]

no news?

[keyboardcircle]

no news?

OP is online now, hopefully he will respond...

[kawasaki161]

Okay, guess I should post an update.

Right when I thought I was able to start the GB, I found a compatibility problem I thought I checked for but apparently didn't, or at least not well enough, which delayed everything a bit further.
That delay would've meant if I started the GB right away after fixing that I would start the GB and then go right on a vacation I've been planning since the beginning of the year.
Right now I'm back at home, but very busy with my university studies. A friend offered to run the GB for me. I hope he'll post about it soon as everything should be set up by now.

On the bright side, we have now confirmed that it perfectly fits into the boards, matching the weird keyspacing that's somewhere between 19mm and 19.05mm. We also got nice cables that are the same thickness as the one we found on a 360c.

I wonder why it showed me being online a few hours ago, as I wasn't even on my computer then.

[pr0ximity]

I'd be interested to hear more about the keyspacing issue. Have you produced a prototype that you've confirmed works? I wasn't aware that other OTD boards aside from the 356 Mini had non-standard keyspacing.

[Puddsy]

I'd be interested to hear more about the keyspacing issue. Have you produced a prototype that you've confirmed works? I wasn't aware that other OTD boards aside from the 356 Mini had non-standard keyspacing.

they all do, it's part of why a.87 type pcbs won't work with it in the first place

other than the static cable, of course

[Atlantic]

Okay, guess I should post an update.

Right when I thought I was able to start the GB, I found a compatibility problem I thought I checked for but apparently didn't, or at least not well enough, which delayed everything a bit further.
That delay would've meant if I started the GB right away after fixing that I would start the GB and then go right on a vacation I've been planning since the beginning of the year.
Right now I'm back at home, but very busy with my university studies. A friend offered to run the GB for me. I hope he'll post about it soon as everything should be set up by now.

On the bright side, we have now confirmed that it perfectly fits into the boards, matching the weird keyspacing that's somewhere between 19mm and 19.05mm. We also got nice cables that are the same thickness as the one we found on a 360c.

I wonder why it showed me being online a few hours ago, as I wasn't even on my computer then.

Great to hear, I'm very excited!

[mech0nly]

Okay, guess I should post an update.

Right when I thought I was able to start the GB, I found a compatibility problem I thought I checked for but apparently didn't, or at least not well enough, which delayed everything a bit further.
That delay would've meant if I started the GB right away after fixing that I would start the GB and then go right on a vacation I've been planning since the beginning of the year.
Right now I'm back at home, but very busy with my university studies. A friend offered to run the GB for me. I hope he'll post about it soon as everything should be set up by now.

On the bright side, we have now confirmed that it perfectly fits into the boards, matching the weird keyspacing that's somewhere between 19mm and 19.05mm. We also got nice cables that are the same thickness as the one we found on a 360c.

I wonder why it showed me being online a few hours ago, as I wasn't even on my computer then.

Nice updates and looking forward for it.

[keyboardcircle]

waiting for your friend to post and run the GB for you.

[alisonica]

Hello guys,

Sorry for the very very very long delay. Long story short, have other stuff to do.
I'm operating this from Germany, however the factories are in China.

The idea: Upgrade OTDs

Your upgrade options:
1) RED KOREAN JESUS CEM-3 QMK Programmable PCB with MX/ALPs compatibility (with all possible Caps lock position)
2) BLACK matt OG coiled cables with USB A/C headers (because glossy sucks)
3) RED Aluminum plates/half plates (with MOQ and lead time so if there's not many orders OP can release the plate design and you cut your own baby!)
4) RED Sorbothane


Current Situation: Halloween 2019
I already have the PCBs made, there are 200 pieces of V1 and 100 pieces of V2.

V1 PCB: 200 pieces, had a problem with the spacing for Cherry MX, however this will fit ALPS builds.
(Will update the specifics, will probably be sold at a super low price)

V2 PCB: 100 pieces, MX/ALPs fits perfectly fine
Both PCBS are QMK

Cables: 200 pieces, matt Black OG coiled cables with USB-A/C headers
(Will confirm the specific number of A and C headers)

Plates: You can either use the original plate, we will also have plates too but there will be MOQ on each type.

Sorbothane: will be larger than the OTD, you need to cut it yourself, it's also very heavy and will affect shipping prices.

GB soon, Any unsold PCBs and OG cables will be put up for sale online until stock runs out.

Will update pictures and pricing soon.

[keyboardcircle]

Hello guys,

Sorry for the very very very long delay. Long story short, have other stuff to do.
I'm operating this from Germany, however the factories are in China.

The idea: Upgrade OTDs

Your upgrade options:
1) RED KOREAN JESUS CEM-3 QMK Programmable PCB with MX/ALPs compatibility (with all possible Caps lock position)
2) BLACK matt OG coiled cables with USB A/C headers (because glossy sucks)
3) RED Aluminum plates/half plates (with MOQ and lead time so if there's not many orders OP can release the plate design and you cut your own baby!)
4) RED Sorbothane


Current Situation: Halloween 2019
I already have the PCBs made, there are 200 pieces of V1 and 100 pieces of V2.

V1 PCB: 200 pieces, had a problem with the spacing for Cherry MX, however this will fit ALPS builds.
(Will update the specifics, will probably be sold at a super low price)

V2 PCB: 100 pieces, MX/ALPs fits perfectly fine
Both PCBS are QMK

Cables: 200 pieces, matt Black OG coiled cables with USB-A/C headers
(Will confirm the specific number of A and C headers)

Plates: You can either use the original plate, we will also have plates too but there will be MOQ on each type.

Sorbothane: will be larger than the OTD, you need to cut it yourself, it's also very heavy and will affect shipping prices.

GB soon, Any unsold PCBs and OG cables will be put up for sale online until stock runs out.

Will update pictures and pricing soon.

oh my god !! 

[HPE1000]

This is fantastic, definitely interested in a plate or two as well. 

[Atlantic]

Great to hear, definitely in for a couple of pcbs and plates! Shame about no beige cables or glossy black ones though. Very excited nonetheless.

[mech0nly]

Hello guys,

Sorry for the very very very long delay. Long story short, have other stuff to do.
I'm operating this from Germany, however the factories are in China.

The idea: Upgrade OTDs

Your upgrade options:
1) RED KOREAN JESUS CEM-3 QMK Programmable PCB with MX/ALPs compatibility (with all possible Caps lock position)
2) BLACK matt OG coiled cables with USB A/C headers (because glossy sucks)
3) RED Aluminum plates/half plates (with MOQ and lead time so if there's not many orders OP can release the plate design and you cut your own baby!)
4) RED Sorbothane


Current Situation: Halloween 2019
I already have the PCBs made, there are 200 pieces of V1 and 100 pieces of V2.

V1 PCB: 200 pieces, had a problem with the spacing for Cherry MX, however this will fit ALPS builds.
(Will update the specifics, will probably be sold at a super low price)

V2 PCB: 100 pieces, MX/ALPs fits perfectly fine
Both PCBS are QMK

Cables: 200 pieces, matt Black OG coiled cables with USB-A/C headers
(Will confirm the specific number of A and C headers)

Plates: You can either use the original plate, we will also have plates too but there will be MOQ on each type.

Sorbothane: will be larger than the OTD, you need to cut it yourself, it's also very heavy and will affect shipping prices.

GB soon, Any unsold PCBs and OG cables will be put up for sale online until stock runs out.

Will update pictures and pricing soon.

I'm ready!

[keyboardcircle]

any update on gb date?

[adxlk]

Hello guys,

Sorry for the very very very long delay. Long story short, have other stuff to do.
I'm operating this from Germany, however the factories are in China.

The idea: Upgrade OTDs

Your upgrade options:
1) RED KOREAN JESUS CEM-3 QMK Programmable PCB with MX/ALPs compatibility (with all possible Caps lock position)
2) BLACK matt OG coiled cables with USB A/C headers (because glossy sucks)
3) RED Aluminum plates/half plates (with MOQ and lead time so if there's not many orders OP can release the plate design and you cut your own baby!)
4) RED Sorbothane


Current Situation: Halloween 2019
I already have the PCBs made, there are 200 pieces of V1 and 100 pieces of V2.

V1 PCB: 200 pieces, had a problem with the spacing for Cherry MX, however this will fit ALPS builds.
(Will update the specifics, will probably be sold at a super low price)

V2 PCB: 100 pieces, MX/ALPs fits perfectly fine
Both PCBS are QMK

Cables: 200 pieces, matt Black OG coiled cables with USB-A/C headers
(Will confirm the specific number of A and C headers)

Plates: You can either use the original plate, we will also have plates too but there will be MOQ on each type.

Sorbothane: will be larger than the OTD, you need to cut it yourself, it's also very heavy and will affect shipping prices.

GB soon, Any unsold PCBs and OG cables will be put up for sale online until stock runs out.

Will update pictures and pricing soon.

So will this be like an In Stock GB or? Because you are saying X and Y amounts for PCB and Cables

[alisonica]

So will this be like an In Stock GB or? Because you are saying X and Y amounts for PCB and Cables

I already have them in stock except the plates. It will be a simple buy except for the plates. Shipping will be from China. I'll be doing this after 25th november, it will be shipped upon payment (except for plates). Won't be costly

[adxlk]

So will this be like an In Stock GB or? Because you are saying X and Y amounts for PCB and Cables

I already have them in stock except the plates. It will be a simple buy except for the plates. Shipping will be from China. I'll be doing this after 25th november, it will be shipped upon payment (except for plates). Won't be costly

Thank you 

[adxlk]

So will this be like an In Stock GB or? Because you are saying X and Y amounts for PCB and Cables

I already have them in stock except the plates. It will be a simple buy except for the plates. Shipping will be from China. I'll be doing this after 25th november, it will be shipped upon payment (except for plates). Won't be costly

This might be late but any chance of beige cables?

[keyboardcircle]

any update?

[alisonica]

This might be late but any chance of beige cables?

I can probably make a custom batch of beige cables in the future if there's demand for it, those with Gunmetal CL, .2 and Military Minis might want this.

Here's some pictures of the 200 cables (previous ones were molded like crap), I will announce the price soon.


Sorry for the project being so slow, it's our first time at this and I will probably sell it through e-mail and paypal invoicing (don't know how to do automated shipping costs).

[pr0ximity]

Only those with Gunmetal CL, .2 and Military Minis need apply 👌

[adxlk]

This might be late but any chance of beige cables?

I can probably make a custom batch of beige cables in the future if there's demand for it, those with Gunmetal CL, .2 and Military Minis might want this.

Here's some pictures of the 200 cables (previous ones were molded like crap), I will announce the price soon.
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Sorry for the project being so slow, it's our first time at this and I will probably sell it through e-mail and paypal invoicing (don't know how to do automated shipping costs).

you can put up a poll to ask for it

[alisonica]

Only those with Gunmetal CL, .2 and Military Minis need apply 👌

Would you like to get the beige one too? I can always put in an order and they'll be made within days.

[adxlk]

Only those with Gunmetal CL, .2 and Military Minis need apply 👌

Would you like to get the beige one too? I can always put in an order and they'll be made within days.

What is the moq?

[Velvet_Crowe]

any eta on when the sale will happen? I'll likely buy at least 4 pcb+plates and maybe cables

[alisonica]

What is the moq?

10 pieces

[alisonica]

any eta on when the sale will happen? I'll likely buy at least 4 pcb+plates and maybe cables

In a few days time, don't worry they will always be in stock, just make sure to check back on this page.

[adxlk]

What is the moq?

10 pieces

what's price per? I want 3 beige and 3 black

[adxlk]

any eta on when the sale will happen? I'll likely buy at least 4 pcb+plates and maybe cables

In a few days time, don't worry they will always be in stock, just make sure to check back on this page.

any eta? you said after the 25th of nov but nothing yet. Just asking, no pressure

[keyboardcircle]

 

any update?

[Velvet_Crowe]

Hope this is still alive

[Sshimosawa]

If you arent running this can you release the plate file?

[ninjadoc]

If you arent running this can you release the plate file?

Do you really understand what you are asking? 1st he put time and money in the CAD files and prototypes.
2nd many have tried to reproduce the plates for an OTD keyboard and success has been a rare thing if it has occurred.
He should enjoy the fruits of his labors.
If the project has died I suspect there is a reason - the arm of OTD used to be long and you did not want to be banned by them from the keyboard community.

I'm sorry but I had to comment on this request. It is almost like when someone asked if I would send them the files for the Mira keypad so they could produce it.

[Sshimosawa]

If you arent running this can you release the plate file?

Do you really understand what you are asking? 1st he put time and money in the CAD files and prototypes.
2nd many have tried to reproduce the plates for an OTD keyboard and success has been a rare thing if it has occurred.
He should enjoy the fruits of his labors.
If the project has died I suspect there is a reason - the arm of OTD used to be long and you did not want to be banned by them from the keyboard community.

I'm sorry but I had to comment on this request. It is almost like when someone asked if I would send them the files for the Mira keypad so they could produce it.

I appreciate you defending the work of runners. They should always be compensated for their work. But lets not be too dramatic of the difficulty of making CAD plate files. I've done it for other boards. Even OTDs with the recessed indents and all. And will likely do one for this board. Printing them is just as easy, even with 2 attempts it will be $100. I was hoping he would share to save the time.

I keep checking this thread and it doesn't seem like the guy is running the buy. So asking if he would release the plate file so others may imho is not the most insane thing in the world.

[ninjadoc]

He hasn't been on Geekhack since October. Frankly I've known many who attempted to make a plate for an OTD PCB and everyone in the past failed. The spacing is peculiar to their PCB and all the previous attempts that I heard about failed. I haven't been active since the Mira SE GB so I can't comment on attempts since then.

[Sshimosawa]

He hasn't been on Geekhack since October. Frankly I've known many who attempted to make a plate for an OTD PCB and everyone in the past failed. The spacing is peculiar to their PCB and all the previous attempts that I heard about failed. I haven't been active since the Mira SE GB so I can't comment on attempts since then.

You are correct. They are tricky. The one I did had a failed attempt also. And once done, there would still need to be a custom PCB to go with it. With eyes on getting both, I was trying to jumpstart the process by urging step one along if he doesn't plan on running the buy.

[Sshimosawa]

Again OP wondering if you may provide a plate file if this wont be run?

[alisonica]

Hello all,

my bad for the massive delay, had some major engineering issues at my main job, here is what's left for me to do:
1) waiting on antistatic bags (should come in monday 13/jan)
2) waiting on packaging (comes in next week 17/jan)
3) waiting on cost breakdown, bill of materials (comes in next week)


Will take orders now via email and orders will be shipped within 3 days after payment, no groupbuy, always in stock until out of stock.

please drop me an email at alison@goldenmotor.com with the following format

Your paypal email for invoicing, shipping information.
1) no. of PCBs, Version 1 or 2
*Version 1 is alps only (MX spacing is wrong), version 2 is alps/MX (MX spacing is correct)
2) no. of matt Black OG cables, Version A2C or A2Mini
USB-A to C or A to Mini
3) No. of Red Sorbothane, larger than TKL size

4) Theoretical number of plates needed
*No plates will be shipped this time round until anodizing is complete
*plates will be in stock soon and will be available for purchase once it and the packaging reaches the warehouse

Plate files will be released soon.

[keyboardcircle]

Hello all,

my bad for the massive delay, had some major engineering issues at my main job, here is what's left for me to do:
1) waiting on antistatic bags (should come in monday 13/jan)
2) waiting on packaging (comes in next week 17/jan)
3) waiting on cost breakdown, bill of materials (comes in next week)


Will take orders now via email and orders will be shipped within 3 days after payment, no groupbuy, always in stock until out of stock.

please drop me an email at alison@goldenmotor.com with the following format

Your paypal email for invoicing, shipping information.
1) no. of PCBs, Version 1 or 2
*Version 1 is alps only (MX spacing is wrong), version 2 is alps/MX (MX spacing is correct)
2) no. of matt Black OG cables, Version A2C or A2Mini
USB-A to C or A to Mini
3) No. of Red Sorbothane, larger than TKL size

4) Theoretical number of plates needed
*No plates will be shipped this time round until anodizing is complete
*plates will be in stock soon and will be available for purchase once it and the packaging reaches the warehouse

Plate files will be released soon.

sent my order..waiting for invoice..

[keyboardcircle]

when are you going to send invoice? do you have to wait for plate to come, then invoice and send them all? or plate and PCB will be sent separately? Thanks

[alisonica]

when are you going to send invoice? do you have to wait for plate to come, then invoice and send them all? or plate and PCB will be sent separately? Thanks

I will send the invoice when the current stock (no plates yet) is all packed and ready to ship. This will most likely happen within the month.
Plates will be instock soon (I don't have any anodizing facility so the QC will take some time), and they'll be on sale once they're all packed and ready to go.

Mini/Winkey TKL versions and Beige Cables will be the next depending on whether OP has enough time to design the PCBs.

[keyboardcircle]

when are you going to send invoice? do you have to wait for plate to come, then invoice and send them all? or plate and PCB will be sent separately? Thanks

I will send the invoice when the current stock (no plates yet) is all packed and ready to ship. This will most likely happen within the month.
Plates will be instock soon (I don't have any anodizing facility so the QC will take some time), and they'll be on sale once they're all packed and ready to go.

Mini/Winkey TKL versions and Beige Cables will be the next depending on whether OP has enough time to design the PCBs.

thanks. if you can reply my email and confirm my order, that would be best. 

[adxlk]

when are you going to send invoice? do you have to wait for plate to come, then invoice and send them all? or plate and PCB will be sent separately? Thanks

I will send the invoice when the current stock (no plates yet) is all packed and ready to ship. This will most likely happen within the month.
Plates will be instock soon (I don't have any anodizing facility so the QC will take some time), and they'll be on sale once they're all packed and ready to go.

Mini/Winkey TKL versions and Beige Cables will be the next depending on whether OP has enough time to design the PCBs.

What's the lead time to make the beige cable?
Will the cable be coil or straight?

[alisonica]

Hello,

I will reply to all emails indicating the price and shipping fee, and I will invoice you after you have confirmed the final order.

Manufacturing time will take two weeks for Beige cables, there is however an MOQ of 200 pieces so I will probably do 100 beige/ 100 pink etc.

Plate color and finish did not turn out as expected, I will be sourcing another anodizing factory this week. I will open source the plate file in a few days time.

[adxlk]

Hello,

I will reply to all emails indicating the price and shipping fee, and I will invoice you after you have confirmed the final order.

Manufacturing time will take two weeks for Beige cables, there is however an MOQ of 200 pieces so I will probably do 100 beige/ 100 pink etc.

Plate color and finish did not turn out as expected, I will be sourcing another anodizing factory this week. I will open source the plate file in a few days time.

What will you do with the plate that did not turn out as expected? I know some people would not care much, of course, if you sell at discounted price

Do you have a sample of the beige or pink?

[LightningXI]

Hello guys,

Sorry for the very very very long delay. Long story short, have other stuff to do.
I'm operating this from Germany, however the factories are in China.

The idea: Upgrade OTDs

Your upgrade options:
1) RED KOREAN JESUS CEM-3 QMK Programmable PCB with MX/ALPs compatibility (with all possible Caps lock position)
2) BLACK matt OG coiled cables with USB A/C headers (because glossy sucks)
3) RED Aluminum plates/half plates (with MOQ and lead time so if there's not many orders OP can release the plate design and you cut your own baby!)
4) RED Sorbothane


Current Situation: Halloween 2019
I already have the PCBs made, there are 200 pieces of V1 and 100 pieces of V2.

V1 PCB: 200 pieces, had a problem with the spacing for Cherry MX, however this will fit ALPS builds.
(Will update the specifics, will probably be sold at a super low price)

V2 PCB: 100 pieces, MX/ALPs fits perfectly fine
Both PCBS are QMK

Cables: 200 pieces, matt Black OG coiled cables with USB-A/C headers
(Will confirm the specific number of A and C headers)

Plates: You can either use the original plate, we will also have plates too but there will be MOQ on each type.

Sorbothane: will be larger than the OTD, you need to cut it yourself, it's also very heavy and will affect shipping prices.

GB soon, Any unsold PCBs and OG cables will be put up for sale online until stock runs out.

Will update pictures and pricing soon.

Is there a pricing table? Can you publish it?

[alisonica]

What will you do with the plate that did not turn out as expected? I know some people would not care much, of course, if you sell at discounted price
Do you have a sample of the beige or pink?

No can't sell failed samples sorry sir, no samples yet but i'm shopping for the beige pellets that will match OG cherry keyset modifiers (not the NCR one) and the pink to match 456GT pink. Don't really want to rush this, gotta show respect for the OTDs, only making premium products.

Is there a pricing table? Can you publish it?

Yes I will disclose the price, however the shipping price will vary for everyone.




FYI upcoming:
1) OP will post a guide on soldering the cables.
2) Plate files have been edited (Apparently the 456GT and Corsa have different plate dimensions O.o) and will be posted in a few days once I've checked the dimensions.
3) If all goes well and OTDers are satisfied with this upgrade kit, the mini pimp kit (Korean Baby Jesus) will come next. Maybe even with HOTSWAP.

[alisonica]

Unfortunately, Chinese new year and Coronavirus will be causing delays.

[Velvet_Crowe]

Any updates?

[Exemplar]

When the time comes, I will join for 3 PCBs most likely.

[heyman]

Go Go Go! I can't wait

[keyboardcircle]

any update?

[meiosis]

Anyone know what sized o-ring should be used for the TKL pcb?

[alisonica]

Dear friends,

Due to the coronavirus, my factory in China has temporarily switched to mass-producing facemasks to meet the global demand. Rest assured the product is still there, however it is my decision not to jeopardise the safety of you and your neighbourhood delivery guy for this product, especially Americans as they are dealing with the worst (Yes you, american clackers, stay home). I am sincerely sorry you all had to wait so long, please stay safe and stay in doors. I promise to remove all markup and sell at cost price.

I have received and saved all your e-mails and will start taking orders when the crisis is over, in the meantime, stay at home, clack at home and let's all survive this. (www.typeracer.com kills boredom)

Best regards,
Alison
Goldenmotor Technology Co. Ltd

[futurecrime]

Dear friends,

Due to the coronavirus, my factory in China has temporarily switched to mass-producing facemasks to meet the global demand. Rest assured the product is still there, however it is my decision not to jeopardise the safety of you and your neighbourhood delivery guy for this product, especially Americans as they are dealing with the worst (Yes you, american clackers, stay home). I am sincerely sorry you all had to wait so long, please stay safe and stay in doors. I promise to remove all markup and sell at cost price.

I have received and saved all your e-mails and will start taking orders when the crisis is over, in the meantime, stay at home, clack at home and let's all survive this. (www.typeracer.com kills boredom)

Best regards,
Alison
Goldenmotor Technology Co. Ltd

Thanks for the update. And for thinking of the delivery people. Keyboard game is waiting game. Be well!

[naasfu]

yes, thanks for the update and also for working on this project for everyone.    i'm hoping to get some new pcbs for my 360c.

[Kinesiologist]

how can i go about joining this group buy?

[mech0nly]

Dear friends,

Due to the coronavirus, my factory in China has temporarily switched to mass-producing facemasks to meet the global demand. Rest assured the product is still there, however it is my decision not to jeopardise the safety of you and your neighbourhood delivery guy for this product, especially Americans as they are dealing with the worst (Yes you, american clackers, stay home). I am sincerely sorry you all had to wait so long, please stay safe and stay in doors. I promise to remove all markup and sell at cost price.

I have received and saved all your e-mails and will start taking orders when the crisis is over, in the meantime, stay at home, clack at home and let's all survive this. (www.typeracer.com kills boredom)

Best regards,
Alison
Goldenmotor Technology Co. Ltd

Sent you an order email as well. Thank you and stay safe everyone

[keyboardcircle]

is there any update?

[brohothepirate]

Filled out the IC form!

[PigeonsLikeBread]

Hope this goes into production soon.

[Protein]

any update on the plates? or plate files?

[gadzkun]

anyone have info where i can make CEM-3 PCB?
still searching for CEM-3 PCB manufacturer to make some surprises

[futurecrime]

Any update on this? I realise the pandemic hasn’t disappeared but most GBs have picked back up again and Mechlovin are now making their own version of this PCB as well.

[zekkin]

Any update on this? I realise the pandemic hasn’t disappeared but most GBs have picked back up again and Mechlovin are now making their own version of this PCB as well.

[futurecrime]

Any update on this? I realise the pandemic hasn’t disappeared but most GBs have picked back up again and Mechlovin are now making their own version of this PCB as well.

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Oh for sure. Just aware that alisonica is apparently sat on 300 PCBs and she might want to get a wriggle on.

[ramnes]

interested

[keyboardcircle]

wake up.. Crisis is over..

[Gondolindrim]

Hey @kawasaki161, I sent you a DM

[eaglevee]

Hi, I've missed this. Can I have the plate file? I wanna rebuild my plate