Post by: LastBrat on Wed, 07 February 2018, 03:53:11
Interested in comething new and fresh? Want something unorthodox? Then these keycaps might be just the thing for you!
I'd like to introduce and check your interest in a new keycap set I've been working on for a while:
[attach=25]
I was inspired by the books by Lewis Carroll, and have tried to capture their feel and love for weirdness, symmetry and mathematics. As you might have noticed, the legends use a completely custom font I created along with novelty keycaps.
[attach=26]
Key features:
- Unique font and novelties
- Custom PBT colors
- First set with FULL UT47 40% keyboard compatibility
UPDATE 13-02-2020:
After months of work and almost 2 years of waiting, I'm happy to announce:
This set in now on pre-order at PMK: https://pimpmykeyboard.com/new-dsa-unalice-keyset/ Whoho!
The (updated) kits available there are the ones that initially will be produced.
Ask your questions here and feel free to order your selection @ PMK store. Thank you for your support!
COLORS:
Alphas & mods:
- Cream white (Pantone "winter white")
- Rose red: Signature Plastics RBH
- Green leaf: Signature Plastics VCE
KITS:
Here are the kits that you can order today at PMK:
- Alphas:
[[attach=7] - TKL Mods:
[attach=12] - Numpad:
[attach=11] - Novelties:
[attach=10] - Adapter kit mods :
[attach=9] - 40% mods :
[attach=8] - Ortho mods (Atomic, Planck + more)
[attach=13] - Ortho novelties:
[attach=14] - Gamer pack:
[attach=5] - Accents (green or red possible):
[attach=15][attach=16] - ISO:
[attach=4] - Spaces: 6, 6.25 and 7u:
[attach=17][attach=18][attach=19] - Big banks, can be used as space bars for alternative layouts:
[attach=20] - Tiny blanks, to be used as space bars for alternative layouts. I checked with PMK, and they said they can produce this kit in DCS profile (Row3), as that is better suited as a spacebar in my opinion. Use the comment box when ordering to do that:
[attach=21] - Ergodox mods:
[attach=22] - "Almost straight" novelties (Dropped the F-keys, as it would make the kit way too big):
[attach=3] - NorDeUk:
[attach=23] - Colemak/Dvorak homing:
[attach=6]
Comments on the future:
I have some sketches for 3D sculpted "Artisan" keycaps, that I might sculpt in 3D and you might want to print. Or maybe an Artisan would like to cooperate with me on this, and we could create something together. I'm open for suggestions! Also am planning a future rerelease in a sculpted profile, possibly in additional colors. Oh, and I am thinking about releasing fitting desk / mouse mats, already made a picture of Alice playing Cricket, fot that. Stay tuned.
Anticipating some FAQ, here are some answers:
Q: "Why DSA?"
A: I like the profile, love pbt and am trying to use PMK's offer to produce dye sublimated sets at the moment.
Q: "What about profile X?"
A: I'd love to run this set in a subsequent round in another profile, like XDA, Sculpted SA, KAT, or some other spherical profile, if there is enough interest.
Q: "Will there be support for keyboard Y?"
A: It would be great to have support for as many keyboards as possible, including ergodox. Suggest your favorites and comment!
Q: "I know it's a long shot, but what about ALPS?"
A: I'd be happy for PMK to produce this in DSA ALPS in a future round:)
TODO:
- Produce it!
- Artisans?
- TBD
UPDATE LOG:
- Updated colors, kits and renders
- Updated renders with actual colors
- Added colors, 40% kit and reworked all kits
- reworked all kits and refined legends
- Contacted manufacturer, added color options and ergodox kit
- Added new novelty caps and updated ortho render
- Seem ppl like the mirrored legends, so they stay :)
- Added preliminary kits, more to come
- Added new novelties and gamer mini kits
- Added the preliminary ISO kit with its own novelty, renamed 'WIN' to 'SYS' and further extended the Alternate kit
- Made legends smaller for better fit and aesthetic appeal
THANK you for your interest, comments and suggestions. Your help is crucial to make this a set for as many people as possible! Contact me if you're interested in cooperating on this set, making artisan keycaps, or want to work together on a keycap set of your own: I love creating novelties :))
PS. For all those who really dislike DSA: there is a keycaps in there, just for you ;)
Example renders:
[attach=1][attach=24]
More to come...
P.S. This set was formerly introduced as [attach=2]
Post by: TwiztedGaming on Wed, 07 February 2018, 08:06:41
Post by: LastBrat on Wed, 07 February 2018, 09:18:38
BTW: I'll be updating soon with additional novelties, so watch this topic :)
Post by: arhetue on Wed, 07 February 2018, 09:40:51
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 07 February 2018, 09:51:50
Post by: mike-y on Wed, 07 February 2018, 11:30:36
The novelties look nice too. I'm thinking you can add just the floating smile from the cheshire cat on a novelty spacebar. Not too big, and maybe offset to one side. just throwing out ideas.
the pure white base is a little bright for my tastes, but I do think it looks good overall.
Post by: LastBrat on Wed, 07 February 2018, 12:07:51
Post by: amatecha on Wed, 07 February 2018, 17:13:31
Post by: Latto on Thu, 08 February 2018, 09:32:52
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 08 February 2018, 12:26:59
Post by: Etsetra on Thu, 08 February 2018, 14:37:11
Post by: AuthenticDanger on Thu, 08 February 2018, 14:48:18
Post by: LastBrat on Thu, 08 February 2018, 16:20:26
I like thje F-row idea, will experiment with it, thanks!
Post by: gith on Thu, 08 February 2018, 19:47:00
Post by: Mousy on Thu, 08 February 2018, 21:47:29
Post by: LastBrat on Fri, 09 February 2018, 05:04:35
Love the font on these and am looking for a keyset for my ortho 40%. Looks like I found it! Can't wait to see it in personGood one, will certainly see how I can fit it in. Glad the set has a broader appeal :)
Post by: panrc on Fri, 09 February 2018, 21:28:40
Post by: LastBrat on Sat, 10 February 2018, 16:24:23
Does look like it needs a bit more colour but I like it.
Working on it :) I've got it narrowed down to a few choices.
Meanwhile: I've added new novelties!
Post by: TwiztedGaming on Sat, 10 February 2018, 16:34:33
LastBrat: beautiful work on the novelties!!!! I'm loving the progress and the gamer pack is a perfect addition!! Can not wait to see this set in person!!!Does look like it needs a bit more colour but I like it.
Working on it :) I've got it narrowed down to a few choices.
Meanwhile: I've added new novelties!
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Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 10 February 2018, 16:44:04
Post by: TwiztedGaming on Sat, 10 February 2018, 16:48:13
This would look amazing in a wooden case. Pretty classicBrilliant idea!!!
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Post by: LastBrat on Sun, 11 February 2018, 01:45:49
This would look amazing in a wooden case. Pretty classicThank you! Yeah, a classic feel is what I'm going for. I'm pretty excited about the upcoming colors too, just have to hear back from PMK before I'm sure it's doable.
Post by: LastBrat on Sun, 11 February 2018, 01:47:08
LastBrat: beautiful work on the novelties!!!! I'm loving the progress and the gamer pack is a perfect addition!! Can not wait to see this set in person!!!
Thanks a bunch, I can't wait to see it too :)
Post by: alphabirth on Sun, 11 February 2018, 02:37:01
Post by: ronon on Mon, 12 February 2018, 13:13:46
Post by: LastBrat on Mon, 12 February 2018, 17:14:37
Holy mackerel, yes!
SubbedThanks guys!
Also: good news, heard back from PMK (Thanks Melissa!) and will be able to finish my kit and colored version design very soon :)
Post by: mike-y on Mon, 12 February 2018, 17:43:15
Post by: LastBrat on Tue, 13 February 2018, 15:40:10
wow, this has really turned out nice. I'd definitely be in for a setSuper!
Please, everyone who is interested, fill in my tiny survey here:
https://goo.gl/forms/07yuj7MFZ5zgA4md2
To help me choose the colorway and finilize the kits.
Post by: tanvir175 on Wed, 14 February 2018, 16:45:52
Sad to think it may not happen because most people prefer more classic colorways :(
Post by: nao on Wed, 14 February 2018, 18:34:15
That psychedelic colorway looks so ****ing dope!I see.
Sad to think it may not happen because most people prefer more classic colorways :(
I think that it is a demerit in majority vote.
Post by: LastBrat on Thu, 22 February 2018, 17:00:33
One notable change is that I moved the 6.25 space from the alphas to the TKL mods, this will mean that ortho and ergodox buyers won't have to pay for an unused large cap, while the rest of us won't care :)
Please comment on the changes and (re) take the survey if you have 2 minutes.
https://goo.gl/forms/WFtA9NNfa9znw0Jp1
Thank you!
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Thu, 22 February 2018, 22:40:04
Post by: LastBrat on Fri, 23 February 2018, 02:19:08
The color in the kits is off (too yellow / saturated), I'm working on 3D renders atm, where I can get it right.
Post by: KPrepublic on Fri, 23 February 2018, 04:02:06
Post by: michaelkgirard on Fri, 23 February 2018, 11:21:31
Post by: ErgoMacros on Fri, 23 February 2018, 13:02:16
Post by: LastBrat on Sun, 04 March 2018, 08:24:11
Post by: random0987 on Sun, 04 March 2018, 08:54:43
Another major update! Colors and kits are updated :) Let me know what you think!
Love it. Been following this and it keeps getting better, but with all of the kits now what is the MOQ situation going to be like? What’s your timing for GB?
Post by: LastBrat on Sun, 04 March 2018, 11:01:16
EDIT: Also just split the Additional keys kit into a 40% and 60%+ keyboards. I'd appreciate any feedback on these two if you happen to own those keyboards :)
Post by: oldcat on Sun, 04 March 2018, 22:21:51
Post by: haiz85 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 06:30:52
Post by: LastBrat on Fri, 09 March 2018, 11:35:26
please have support for leopold FC980M non standard bottom row and will likely purchase this set.No problem, it's already supported, with the 'adapter' and '6u space bar' kits :)
Post by: sundaydreaming on Fri, 09 March 2018, 14:58:47
Post by: cldskt on Sat, 10 March 2018, 05:40:15
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Post by: dr-slump on Sat, 10 March 2018, 07:23:51
Can't wait for the GB :thumb:
Post by: LastBrat on Sat, 10 March 2018, 11:05:56
First 60% render’s color combinations are perfect. Just thought cream modifiers and white alphas would look even better. You have come a long way since your first interest check! Excited to see how this turns out!Thank you!
Here is a sample render of a popular combo:
[attach=1]
And a more excentric one:
[attach=2]
Post by: cldskt on Sat, 10 March 2018, 12:23:16
First 60% render’s color combinations are perfect. Just thought cream modifiers and white alphas would look even better. You have come a long way since your first interest check! Excited to see how this turns out!Thank you!
Here is a sample render of a popular combo:
(Attachment Link)
And a more excentric one:
(Attachment Link)
Ah yess thanks for the renders man :D
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Post by: LastBrat on Sat, 10 March 2018, 16:38:32
[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3]
Post by: haiz85 on Sun, 11 March 2018, 23:36:57
Awesome!!please have support for leopold FC980M non standard bottom row and will likely purchase this set.No problem, it's already supported, with the 'adapter' and '6u space bar' kits :)
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Post by: elpeterson on Wed, 14 March 2018, 13:29:50
Post by: jimirolln on Wed, 14 March 2018, 14:20:00
Post by: alphabirth on Fri, 25 May 2018, 02:01:56
Post by: Hysticali on Fri, 25 May 2018, 04:40:11
Post by: LastBrat on Fri, 25 May 2018, 12:27:39
Any more updates on when we might expect the group buy? Super stoked for this set!What's happening at the moment is that we're waiting in the cue at Signature Plastics :) The first run is roughly planned after the holidays.
As soon as I have some info on samples or final kit pricing, I will definitely let you guys know.
Thanks for your patience! :)
Post by: NukaCola on Wed, 30 May 2018, 21:01:19
Post by: JJ on Thu, 07 June 2018, 01:29:37
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Post by: LastBrat on Sat, 09 June 2018, 05:10:30
Post by: adoringbunny on Thu, 12 July 2018, 08:41:05
Post by: OreoPewPew on Wed, 01 August 2018, 05:19:16
Post by: LastBrat on Sat, 25 August 2018, 13:29:52
While we wait for production samples and kit prices, I have a tiny update :)
1. A new render of Iris split ortho keyboard:
[attach=1]
2. A peek at one of the additions to the set I've been working on: a 3d printable artisan keycaps:
[attach=2]
I've just modeled Alice sofar, but have sketches for additional characters also. Thinking of releasing these 3d models through shapeways, with minimal or zero commission. I will probably do an IC for them soon as well, and one other thing I have planned and am working on.
Looking for feedback on this, so let me know what you think.
Thanks!
Post by: Jkush463 on Sat, 25 August 2018, 16:00:00
Post by: nukacola114 on Sat, 25 August 2018, 16:10:20
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Post by: obeisa on Mon, 24 December 2018, 15:50:09
Post by: jinbe on Tue, 01 January 2019, 18:16:24
Post by: William_S_Jones on Sat, 26 January 2019, 10:34:34
I think it'd be super cool to have an artisan of cheshire cat or the white rabbit; I'll definitely be picking up most of this set if it does come out.I just noticed the IC when l search for anything new from LINGUA FRANCA & this set came up. I love this set & hope LINGUA FRANCA ends up producing this DSA set.
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Post by: equalunique on Thu, 28 March 2019, 20:05:40
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Post by: Rayndalf on Thu, 28 March 2019, 21:07:18
Post by: Aerizu on Thu, 28 March 2019, 22:24:27
I'm not sure if SP's tooling supports this though.
Post by: William_S_Jones on Thu, 28 March 2019, 22:55:11
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Post by: RobotCandyCompany on Thu, 28 March 2019, 23:29:30
Post by: senryo on Fri, 29 March 2019, 08:35:12
Post by: William_S_Jones on Fri, 29 March 2019, 08:56:55
Will there be an infringement lawsuit filed from Disney if this set is really proceeding to GB?Don't believe so, it's ways around it, like having similar logos, not using anything directly related to the "alice in wonderland" property. Look at SA "troubled minds" & it's clear "joker" likeness.
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Post by: senryo on Fri, 29 March 2019, 08:58:16
Ah...I see, thanks for the clarification!Will there be an infringement lawsuit filed from Disney if this set is really proceeding to GB?Don't believe so, it's ways around it, like having similar logos, not using anything directly related to the "alice in wonderland" property. Look at SA "troubled minds" & it's clear "joker" likeness.
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Post by: William_S_Jones on Fri, 29 March 2019, 09:25:09
No problem, you're welcome.Ah...I see, thanks for the clarification!Will there be an infringement lawsuit filed from Disney if this set is really proceeding to GB?Don't believe so, it's ways around it, like having similar logos, not using anything directly related to the "alice in wonderland" property. Look at SA "troubled minds" & it's clear "joker" likeness.
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Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 16 January 2020, 12:17:36
https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-unalice-keyset
Post by: LastBrat on Thu, 16 January 2020, 13:30:21
The kits depicted there are not 100% correct, as most have been updated, but I've contacted PMK about that, hope to see that fixed soon. Then I'm going to order the lot!
EDIT: The set name was changed also, it's called "UnAlice" now... I will make a post here with the actual kits and info as soon as it's settled with PMK.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 16 January 2020, 14:26:52
but
this is awesome. congrats for getting it run.
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Thu, 16 January 2020, 14:32:05
Please post in reddit too. I'm on board forums 4x a day or so on reddit/here/discord and I didn't know it was running and the group buy spreadsheet doesn't have it either.
Post by: LastBrat on Thu, 16 January 2020, 16:43:42
Post by: Symbiote on Mon, 20 January 2020, 07:53:58
Post by: alphabirth on Tue, 21 January 2020, 17:25:33
Post by: utilitytech on Wed, 22 January 2020, 06:55:12
1) The 6.25 space key is not shown as part of TKL mod kit.
2) You have created a separate kit for three 6.25 space bars.
3) Could you add one space bar to the TKL mod that will be nice.
3) Could you add an Asia proxy like ZFrontier. They give shipping discounts.
I hope it is not very late in the day to request these. On a side note, would love to see this in KAT profile some time in the future. One can include the twins and the Jabberwocky novelty in that.
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 22 January 2020, 07:56:47
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 22 January 2020, 10:58:59
Stumbled upon this GB when I visited the PMK site. Great set. But I did notice some things after going through the whole thread.
1) The 6.25 space key is not shown as part of TKL mod kit.
2) You have created a separate kit for three 6.25 space bars.
3) Could you add one space bar to the TKL mod that will be nice.
3) Could you add an Asia proxy like ZFrontier. They give shipping discounts.
I hope it is not very late in the day to request these. On a side note, would love to see this in KAT profile some time in the future. One can include the twins and the Jabberwocky novelty in that.
That does seem odd to have to buy a space bar pack to have any type of space bar at all. But I suppose that's what we must do.
Post by: LastBrat on Thu, 23 January 2020, 07:58:42
I am still emailing back and forth with SP (manufacturer) to settle some inconsistencies with the kits shown on the website. That's why I haven't posted before.
0) This set is only available on the PMK (SP) website, so no EU distributor atm. Unless someone is willing to become one and place a bulk order at PMK (like 7bit did with his set)?
1) The 6.25 spacebar will be part of the alphas kit, so no need to have it in the other kits or buy it separetely (Originally I wanted to have a separate spacebar kit, so ortho/ 40% people wouldn't have to pay for a key they'd not use), I do recommend the red spacebar though!
2) The 6.25 spacebar kit contains the red and the green one (and the white will be moved to alpha's)
3) See Q nr 1, spacebar adds about 1 or 2 $ to the price of alpha kit I believe.
4) I am thinking of running this set in a different profile in the future, PBT has my preference so KAT sounds promising. EU and Asian proxies will definitely be part of that (I'm EU based myself, and will have to pay custom duties too). Will have to rework the kits to include the different rows of course.
Colored mods/alphas: as the set is already quite large, PMK didn't want to run alternative colors yet, if it will be popular, it's definitely possible, so let's hope :) Also - the 2d images are a bit misleading, please check the renders in this thread - the white is much more white that creamy yellow, the pantone is called "Winter White" btw. Combining them with other mods would clash more because of the font, which is unique to this set.
EDIT: here's an example of the colors:
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 23 January 2020, 08:14:36
Waiting a few days until my birthday to put in an order for many kits. Would be a cool set to see in KAT profile.
Post by: LizbetKW on Thu, 23 January 2020, 20:16:47
Post by: utilitytech on Fri, 24 January 2020, 02:22:03
Post by: yhs on Fri, 24 January 2020, 02:46:25
Any plans/thoughts of introducing a "clean white" set of alphas?
Post by: eighnjel on Sat, 25 January 2020, 23:40:43
... debating whether I should just buy the DSAs or hold out. I really love this set and don't want to miss out on having any version of it.
Post by: LastBrat on Sun, 26 January 2020, 06:23:44
Here are some answers to the latest questions:
- The planned 'winter white' color is the one intended, no plans for other white versions
- the DSA set should be available at PMK for as long as people will want to buy it, since it's more of a 'print on demand with PBT, they I think it will be a while.
- No real plans to add another profile YET. KAT would require reworking of the set because of the row profiles, and I have not yet found any manufacturer for it. I will see how DSA sells and will do a IC / poll before making it available in other profiles, so get it now, while there is a relatively short waiting period before it's produced!
Thanks again, and keep those questions and suggestions coming!
Post by: bd_slade on Fri, 31 January 2020, 22:31:33
Thanks in advance! :)
Post by: Symbiote on Sun, 02 February 2020, 09:00:41
Would you know when the current groupbuy will be ending by chance? Just wondering how much time I have to save some $$$.
Thanks in advance! :)
It is literally in the comment above yours.
- the DSA set should be available at PMK for as long as people will want to buy it, since it's more of a 'print on demand with PBT, they I think it will be a while.
Post by: bd_slade on Sun, 02 February 2020, 17:34:15
Would you know when the current groupbuy will be ending by chance? Just wondering how much time I have to save some $$$.
Thanks in advance! :)
It is literally in the comment above yours.- the DSA set should be available at PMK for as long as people will want to buy it, since it's more of a 'print on demand with PBT, they I think it will be a while.
Post by: obeisa on Wed, 12 February 2020, 13:45:51
Post by: LastBrat on Thu, 13 February 2020, 15:08:52
yeah, sorry for the delays. I'll update the kits in a second! Just ordered mine too :)
Post by: alphabirth on Thu, 13 February 2020, 15:34:41
Post by: LastBrat on Thu, 13 February 2020, 16:28:32
EDIT: this just came in: the general sale will start on the 24th :)
Post by: bd_slade on Sat, 15 February 2020, 12:48:40
Looking into it, there seems to have been some confusion with PMK. They said the presale ran until 2/17 on the actual item page, and their FB page as of Feb 10th, but then yesterday they changed it to "ending today."
Pretty sad if I missed out because of that.
Post by: obeisa on Sat, 15 February 2020, 14:30:20
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Post by: LastBrat on Tue, 24 March 2020, 08:29:16
I just wanted to pop back in and ask if you knew what happened to the inverted caps lock yet? Understandable if it got removed for whatever reason, but I quite liked that one, and it was/is showing on PMK's page, but I didn't get one in my kit. Was that an error, or was that key never produced?
Yeah, that is a render based on one of the pre-final designs. The caps lock key was indeed removed a while ago, sorry. The previews of the individual kits on their website are correct though.