Post by: lekashman on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:11:16
Waitlist on Kono Store: https://kono.store/products/sa-troubled-minds-keycap-set (https://kono.store/products/sa-troubled-minds-keycap-set)
We are working with thesiscamper to explore another group buy for Troubled Minds - with a few revisions. The kits are not finalized yet, but we want to get a feel for how many people would be interested in another run, as SA keycap buys from Signature Plastics require a very long advance timeline. The set will be SA Doubleshot ABS plastic and the custom modifiers are currently being explored.
If you have suggestions or questions about the set - please join the discussion here!
Here are some awesome renders from thesiscamper to show off the set.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/tbcard1-min_1024x1024.png?v=1520629397) (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/Troubled-Minds-Keycap-Set-Card-min_1024x1024.png?v=1520629397)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/KIRA_TMR2_C4R01-min_1024x1024.png?v=1520629397) (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/KIRA_TMR2_C1R01-min_1024x1024.png?v=1520629397)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/KIRA80_TMR2_C1R01-min_1024x1024.png?v=1520629397) (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/KIRA80_TMR2_C4R01-min_1024x1024.png?v=1520629397)
The keycap set is not finalized yet - thesiscamper will be adding additional novelties over the next few weeks.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/TMR2_Kits-small-min_1024x1024.png?v=1520629397)
Alphas
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/Alphas_2048x2048.png?v=1521233137)
Custom Modifiers
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/Custom_Modifiers_2048x2048.png?v=1521233139)
ErgoDox Blanks
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/ErgoDox_Blanks_2048x2048.png?v=1521233121)
ISO Kit
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/ISO_Kit_2048x2048.png?v=1521233122)
Modifiers + Numpad
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/Modifiers_and_Numpad_2048x2048.png?v=1521233126)
Ortholinear Kit
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/Ortholinear_Mods_2048x2048.png?v=1521233131)
Tsangan Kit
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1994/3097/products/Tsangan_Kit_2048x2048.png?v=1521233134)
Post by: japanitrat on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:17:13
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:17:24
but good to see R2
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:19:43
Post by: lekashman on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:24:20
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:28:03
@Puddsy - The novelties will be finalized in the coming weeks.
Ah, cool. Thanks for clarifying.
Post by: kconfire on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:28:25
Post by: mgsickler on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:28:25
Post by: aznreaper on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:36:45
Post by: ullr on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:44:28
Please have most of the Eva novelties from the first round!!!
EDIT: wait is the Ergodox kit and 40% kit obligatory to get the rest? That sucks
Post by: jimirolln on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:49:19
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 March 2018, 15:56:07
Post by: T0mb3ry on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:00:39
Post by: lekashman on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:25:50
Post by: iliketimex on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:37:02
Post by: jdcarpe on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:45:00
@jdcarpe - If we had designed the set - like the Infinity DSA set, we would probably do it in a vendor forum. This is a community set from thesiscamper that we are just helping him out with, so we felt this was a better home for it!
Yeah, it’s all good Andrew. It was just a small jab at the mods for moving stuff out of the IC thread. I wish all of I:C and Kono partners the best of luck!
Post by: Purp on Fri, 09 March 2018, 16:52:52
#BringBackTheGoodICs
Looking forward to this keycap set and the other ones too that got moved too, thanks for the effort guys!
Post by: get_weird on Fri, 09 March 2018, 17:02:18
Post by: lekashman on Fri, 09 March 2018, 17:16:52
The last Interest Check for this was here - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75345.0 - so it seems fairly appropriate place to post Round 2, I'm not sure why it would need to be reported?
We can directly link to the waitlist page - https://mailchi.mp/kono/troubled-minds - which is not on a Kono Store domain if that makes things easier for mods?
Post by: xondat on Fri, 09 March 2018, 17:21:42
@Purp - Is this the wrong place for an interest check for Troubled Minds?
The last Interest Check for this was here - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75345.0 - so it seems fairly appropriate place to post Round 2, I'm not sure why it would need to be reported?
We can directly link to the waitlist page - https://mailchi.mp/kono/troubled-minds - which is not on a Kono Store domain if that makes things easier for mods?
This is the correct place.
A group of people are a bit annoyed as the moderators of Geekhack would like all interest checks that will be a group buy on Massdrop to be in the Massdrop Vendor section, not the normal interest check subforum.
Post by: jimirolln on Fri, 09 March 2018, 17:29:04
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 09 March 2018, 17:39:23
@Purp - Is this the wrong place for an interest check for Troubled Minds?
This is the correct place.
A group of people are a bit annoyed as the moderators of Geekhack would like all interest checks that will be a group buy on Massdrop to be in the Massdrop Vendor section, not the normal interest check subforum.
this is most certainly in the right place...please don't report it...i live under a bridge in the ic forum...i need this in my life
i am curious about the intellectual property agreement md may have with sp...oblostky says md plans to roll out r2 some time this year
graffiti mod upgrade i am down...else it's really more of a race to who drops live first
I don't quite recall saying that MD is going to run another round, considering I knew for a long time now that TM was re-running outside of MD. Thesiscamper is in charge of running or not running the set, so there is nothing to worry about.
In for Alphas, Green Mods, Novelties and what appears to be a hint at a Purple Modifiers kit! Together with Pulse R3, it looks like my wallet will get quite some usage soon.
Post by: jimirolln on Fri, 09 March 2018, 17:46:11
Post by: a_ak57 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 18:28:06
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 09 March 2018, 18:32:22
You mention long lead times for SP SA, but I recently saw someone mention that it's down to six months now, is that not actually the case?
https://pimpmykeyboard.com/whats-new/
Quote
SA two-shot sets - 5 to 6 months depending on size
This information is accurate having seen timelines given on projects I've recently been working on.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 09 March 2018, 18:35:17
You mention long lead times for SP SA, but I recently saw someone mention that it's down to six months now, is that not actually the case?
that was probably me
not like 6 months isn't a long time
GMK has turned around GBs in like a month
Post by: packman86 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 18:37:53
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 09 March 2018, 18:41:01
Calling it now. Very low sales and mm prices will explode after it releases.
sounds like an SA set
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 09 March 2018, 18:45:50
Post by: emenelopee on Fri, 09 March 2018, 18:52:06
I'd love to see purple F1-F4 and F9-F12 moved to alphas, and a complete green function row in mod kit btw, or any similar solution. not really a fan of sandwich colors in FN row
Seconded.
Post by: Shados on Fri, 09 March 2018, 18:57:51
Post by: bunraku on Fri, 09 March 2018, 19:01:11
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Post by: GarrettSucks on Fri, 09 March 2018, 19:01:33
Post by: Sissy on Fri, 09 March 2018, 19:06:13
Post by: a_ak57 on Fri, 09 March 2018, 19:38:32
You mention long lead times for SP SA, but I recently saw someone mention that it's down to six months now, is that not actually the case?
that was probably me
not like 6 months isn't a long time
GMK has turned around GBs in like a month
True, but it's at least still way better than the lead times we were getting last year.
I'd love to see purple F1-F4 and F9-F12 moved to alphas, and a complete green function row in mod kit btw, or any similar solution. not really a fan of sandwich colors in FN row
I also like this idea. Did a super lazy copy/paste job to see what it'd look like with a fully green top row as well as green ~` and |\, and I think it looks spiffy:
(https://i.imgur.com/WmoGIYZ.png)
(I know not everyone likes having mod colored ~` and |\ but the F row being uniform looks nice anyway)
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 09 March 2018, 20:21:54
Is this going to have Eva novelties?
Yes it will have those, with new ones and old.
I'd love to see purple F1-F4 and F9-F12 moved to alphas, and a complete green function row in mod kit btw, or any similar solution. not really a fan of sandwich colors in FN row
You mention long lead times for SP SA, but I recently saw someone mention that it's down to six months now, is that not actually the case?
that was probably me
not like 6 months isn't a long time
GMK has turned around GBs in like a month
True, but it's at least still way better than the lead times we were getting last year.I'd love to see purple F1-F4 and F9-F12 moved to alphas, and a complete green function row in mod kit btw, or any similar solution. not really a fan of sandwich colors in FN row
I also like this idea. Did a super lazy copy/paste job to see what it'd look like with a fully green top row as well as green ~` and |\, and I think it looks spiffy:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WmoGIYZ.png)
(I know not everyone likes having mod colored ~` and |\ but the F row being uniform looks nice anyway)
I'll consider this, although most people usually go for the traditional color distribution. This won't be going through Massdrop so it won't make sense to make kits too big or make too many kits.
That stylized H seems too thick compared to the rest of the legends and the stylized J.
I'll see about making it conform to the other novelties more, thanks.
Post by: jimirolln on Fri, 09 March 2018, 20:51:02
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 09 March 2018, 20:53:29
@thesiscamper will we get the non standard layout adapter kit?
It's shown in the kit render, used in a few of the keyboard renders and pretty much mandatory nowadays. I'll go ahead and answer this question as yes for him.
Post by: jimirolln on Fri, 09 March 2018, 20:58:34
Post by: Geckt on Fri, 09 March 2018, 22:00:57
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Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 09 March 2018, 22:05:39
I'd love to see purple F1-F4 and F9-F12 moved to alphas, and a complete green function row in mod kit btw, or any similar solution. not really a fan of sandwich colors in FN rowI support this 100%. Uniformly colored function row is much better.
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Post by: bluesclera on Fri, 09 March 2018, 22:09:24
Post by: airyloft on Fri, 09 March 2018, 22:11:21
You mention long lead times for SP SA, but I recently saw someone mention that it's down to six months now, is that not actually the case?
that was probably me
not like 6 months isn't a long time
GMK has turned around GBs in like a month
True, but it's at least still way better than the lead times we were getting last year.I'd love to see purple F1-F4 and F9-F12 moved to alphas, and a complete green function row in mod kit btw, or any similar solution. not really a fan of sandwich colors in FN row
I also like this idea. Did a super lazy copy/paste job to see what it'd look like with a fully green top row as well as green ~` and |\, and I think it looks spiffy:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/WmoGIYZ.png)
(I know not everyone likes having mod colored ~` and |\ but the F row being uniform looks nice anyway)
Yes all green top row just looks more pleasing.
Post by: kokugatsu on Fri, 09 March 2018, 22:55:45
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 09 March 2018, 23:46:28
Prefer the top row as it is in the renders. I'm guessing EU & SEA proxies will be in place?
Yes, mykeyboard.eu and ZFrontier.
Post by: Jubileus on Fri, 09 March 2018, 23:51:16
Post by: babyphil on Sat, 10 March 2018, 00:03:27
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 10 March 2018, 00:42:24
Post by: wgsunrise on Sat, 10 March 2018, 01:02:13
Post by: Augment_GEAR on Sat, 10 March 2018, 01:08:43
Post by: wodan on Sat, 10 March 2018, 02:05:20
Post by: lovetree on Sat, 10 March 2018, 02:43:25
Please SP not Maxkey....
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 10 March 2018, 03:06:09
Would love to see a NORDE kit! With just a 25 moq this might make it?
Can you please point out a proper NORDE kit?
This set would be made by Signature Plastics, wouldn't this?
Please SP not Maxkey....
It will be made by Signature Plastics, yes :)
Post by: HotRoderX on Sat, 10 March 2018, 03:18:57
Post by: darthzero on Sat, 10 March 2018, 03:27:43
i know not popular but any way we might see this run in another profile other then SA? I don't know why everyone loves SA so much but honestly most likely be down for this one also even if I do hate the profile with a passion. Did decided to change up the profile I am really digging XDA from the godspeed drop there nice to type on... some verity from Cherry profile is always nice. I am excited thought lots of really interesting projects in the works! ...I'm in the same boat, sadly i can not get me to like typing on SA. Sadly i found out after i got in on 2 sets oblivion++ ... plz consider a decent profile... after all i thought this **** profile is done with after we got mt3 now ^^ .. my salty 2 cents :P
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 10 March 2018, 03:52:44
Post by: schmoktopus on Sat, 10 March 2018, 05:06:40
Post by: Sifo on Sat, 10 March 2018, 05:20:53
(https://i.imgur.com/n1nKoa4.jpg)
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 10 March 2018, 05:54:49
Have you considered including a NorDe Kit?
Yes I am considering it, but I will have to talk to the vendors about it. There is little confidence in NORDE, and even ISO.
lovely set, just hate the profile. enjoy guys i'm sure round 2 will be awesomeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/n1nKoa4.jpg)
This looks really nice, thank you for sharing!
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Sat, 10 March 2018, 06:03:39
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 10 March 2018, 08:17:53
lovely set, just hate the profile. enjoy guys i'm sure round 2 will be awesomeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/n1nKoa4.jpg)
That looks sick. Also nice 600s.
Post by: lendflat on Sat, 10 March 2018, 08:38:27
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 10 March 2018, 10:46:49
(https://i.imgur.com/Bb2ItYi.png)
Post by: maybebabe on Sat, 10 March 2018, 11:21:02
These are the current novelties planned. The designs are mostly done, but I would appreciate some feedback especially in choosing which keycap size gets which novelties. Do you want more R4 1u novelties, or place a design to another cap size or row? Suggestions are appreciated, thanks!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Bb2ItYi.png)
Looks great, but where is the red DIE, I love that one.
Post by: ullr on Sat, 10 March 2018, 11:38:30
I guess if push comes to shove though, maybe someone wants to trade Joker novelties for Eva ones? I don’t care for those at all
Post by: necromanx on Sat, 10 March 2018, 12:03:33
Prefer the top row as it is in the renders. I'm guessing EU & SEA proxies will be in place?
Yes, mykeybhoard.eu and ZFrontier.
mykeybhoard.eu ..., keyboard hoarding :V! why didn't we think of this!
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 10 March 2018, 14:36:38
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 10 March 2018, 14:39:53
Post by: fallingloonie on Sat, 10 March 2018, 14:42:04
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 10 March 2018, 14:42:58
Post by: BeardedMario on Sat, 10 March 2018, 15:58:45
However, I am a huge fan of the red DIE, and 2x unit one caps. I'd be extremely happy to see those come back.
Basically, I want the old set.
I'm still getting one though.
Post by: SevenU on Sat, 10 March 2018, 16:29:29
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Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 10 March 2018, 16:33:34
Wonder when someone is going to make a batman themed one.
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Post by: SevenU on Sat, 10 March 2018, 16:36:42
Well I'll be damned, I've never seen this.Wonder when someone is going to make a batman themed one.
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Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 10 March 2018, 16:39:50
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 10 March 2018, 17:12:02
Prefer the top row as it is in the renders. I'm guessing EU & SEA proxies will be in place?
Yes, mykeybhoard.eu and ZFrontier.
mykeybhoard.eu ..., keyboard hoarding :V! why didn't we think of this!
Sorry for the typo :-[
These are the current novelties planned. The designs are mostly done, but I would appreciate some feedback especially in choosing which keycap size gets which novelties. Do you want more R4 1u novelties, or place a design to another cap size or row? Suggestions are appreciated, thanks!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Bb2ItYi.png)
Looks great, but where is the red DIE, I love that one.
I'm on the list, and I'll be getting one regardless.
However, I am a huge fan of the red DIE, and 2x unit one caps. I'd be extremely happy to see those come back.
Basically, I want the old set.
I'm still getting one though.
I didn't think anyone was going to miss it, but it can be added again.
I would like pairs of the same Eva mods that were in pairs in the first GB, or at least two orange ones.
I guess if push comes to shove though, maybe someone wants to trade Joker novelties for Eva ones? I don’t care for those at all
Of course, since that key makes more sense as a pair. Maybe I'm just being conservative with the number of caps because I'm worried the price will be unreasonable, but we'll see!
in injustice joker shoots a gun and a little flag says bang...it would be dope if the caps key could be replaced with a bang key with the same font as the oops key
I've tried that novelty for backspace in the first drop, but it's just too much detail. I probably tried too hard, maybe just the "BANG" is a nice alternative too.
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 10 March 2018, 17:33:54
Post by: a_ak57 on Sat, 10 March 2018, 18:03:44
Post by: Tree_ on Sat, 10 March 2018, 22:19:02
Saying this probably isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I've always seen TM as the Evangelion set and don't care at all for the Joker novelties; so the more Eva the better.
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 10 March 2018, 22:29:28
Post by: BeardedMario on Sat, 10 March 2018, 22:29:46
the more Eva the better.
Yessss.
Post by: Sissy on Sun, 11 March 2018, 03:34:05
These are the current novelties planned. The designs are mostly done, but I would appreciate some feedback especially in choosing which keycap size gets which novelties. Do you want more R4 1u novelties, or place a design to another cap size or row? Suggestions are appreciated, thanks!Orange Spacebar would be nice as an additional option, other than that maybe F and J with white Unit 01 eyes instead of letters?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Bb2ItYi.png)
Post by: ihalatch on Sun, 11 March 2018, 04:29:34
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 11 March 2018, 06:03:26
(https://i.imgur.com/D1CGzXl.png)
These are the current novelties planned. The designs are mostly done, but I would appreciate some feedback especially in choosing which keycap size gets which novelties. Do you want more R4 1u novelties, or place a design to another cap size or row? Suggestions are appreciated, thanks!Orange Spacebar would be nice as an additional option, other than that maybe F and J with white Unit 01 eyes instead of letters?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Bb2ItYi.png)
I won't be doing the eyes, I'll see about the feasibility of a spacebar kit.
Post by: DillonHightower on Sun, 11 March 2018, 06:17:19
I also wish there was an option to do all one color mods, and alphas ,to either green and or purple . A clean mono tone would be awesome ! All green caps with purple font , or purple caps with green font Could look really cool tbh..
Post by: TastyNico on Sun, 11 March 2018, 07:10:34
Would love to see a NORDE kit! With just a 25 moq this might make it?If the MOQ really is 25 and we get a proper EU-proxy like candykeys or mykeyboard, then I can't see a world where a NorDE-kit wouldn't hit MOQ.
I don't know how full SP's queue is right now though.
Of course the compatibility should be limited to two-legend-caps only to keep the price low. I'm suggesting a NorDE-kit à la GMK Laser.
Post by: BeardedMario on Sun, 11 March 2018, 08:00:30
Post by: Peppermint216 on Sun, 11 March 2018, 08:07:56
Post by: jimirolln on Sun, 11 March 2018, 12:28:23
Post by: Rob27shred on Sun, 11 March 2018, 12:39:03
In for Alphas, Green Mods, Novelties and what appears to be a hint at a Purple Modifiers kit! Together with Pulse R3, it looks like my wallet will get quite some usage soon.
This 100%, looking like this will be the year I fully get sucked down the SA rabbit hole. Hyped for both sets & intended on getting myself one of each as long my wallet allows! :thumb:
Post by: Hokabuki on Sun, 11 March 2018, 12:45:27
awe man , SO MUCH HYPE.. Hoping For a tad different novies , Also liked back space knife in R1 better than this one.. I do however love the new font on the H homing key, And the new Harley quin key.Check out the Mitolet IC. It’s part of Pulse Round 3. It might satisfy your color cravings.
I also wish there was an option to do all one color mods, and alphas ,to either green and or purple . A clean mono tone would be awesome ! All green caps with purple font , or purple caps with green font Could look really cool tbh..
Post by: DillonHightower on Sun, 11 March 2018, 13:09:36
awe man , SO MUCH HYPE.. Hoping For a tad different novies , Also liked back space knife in R1 better than this one.. I do however love the new font on the H homing key, And the new Harley quin key.Check out the Mitolet IC. It’s part of Pulse Round 3. It might satisfy your color cravings.
I also wish there was an option to do all one color mods, and alphas ,to either green and or purple . A clean mono tone would be awesome ! All green caps with purple font , or purple caps with green font Could look really cool tbh..
You know what is upsetting about that?! No matching number pad. Only alphas. 😭😭
Post by: Johnny12times on Sun, 11 March 2018, 15:18:40
Post by: captsis on Sun, 11 March 2018, 15:31:02
I reported this thread not because I disagree with the content, but as an act of disapproval about what moderation of Geekhack have been doing to Interest Checks recently, selectively pushing some specific authors to obscure realms of the forum. And I recommend others to do the same.#MakeGeekhackGreatAgain
#BringBackTheGoodICs
Looking forward to this keycap set and the other ones too that got moved too, thanks for the effort guys!
Post by: metalliccharles on Sun, 11 March 2018, 15:31:22
- SA Troubled Minds
- Interest
- HYPE
- Drama
- Freshest memes.
ty GH for this one. :cool:
Very interested!!!
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 11 March 2018, 18:31:17
Any chance of some 1.5u novelties?
Yes, but I'm worried adding a couple or more 1.5u novelties will significantly affect pricing. It all adds up.
Moreawe man , SO MUCH HYPE.. Hoping For a tad different novies , Also liked back space knife in R1 better than this one.. I do however love the new font on the H homing key, And the new Harley quin key.Check out the Mitolet IC. It’s part of Pulse Round 3. It might satisfy your color cravings.
I also wish there was an option to do all one color mods, and alphas ,to either green and or purple . A clean mono tone would be awesome ! All green caps with purple font , or purple caps with green font Could look really cool tbh..
You know what is upsetting about that?! No matching number pad. Only alphas. 😭😭
I'll be working on an all purple mods kit, just that I focused on the novelties this weekend.
Post by: jimirolln on Sun, 11 March 2018, 20:07:00
Post by: a_ak57 on Sun, 11 March 2018, 21:19:32
Any chance of some 1.5u novelties?
Yes, but I'm worried adding a couple or more 1.5u novelties will significantly affect pricing. It all adds up.Moreawe man , SO MUCH HYPE.. Hoping For a tad different novies , Also liked back space knife in R1 better than this one.. I do however love the new font on the H homing key, And the new Harley quin key.Check out the Mitolet IC. It’s part of Pulse Round 3. It might satisfy your color cravings.
I also wish there was an option to do all one color mods, and alphas ,to either green and or purple . A clean mono tone would be awesome ! All green caps with purple font , or purple caps with green font Could look really cool tbh..
You know what is upsetting about that?! No matching number pad. Only alphas. 😭😭
I'll be working on an all purple mods kit, just that I focused on the novelties this weekend.
I'd say maybe design all the things you were thinking of and get a quote, then run it by the community to figure out what to drop if nobody is will to pay the price for the full loadout. Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like Troubled Minds is the kind of set where people will be willing to lay down the big bucks on novelties.
Post by: jimirolln on Sun, 11 March 2018, 21:32:10
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 12 March 2018, 08:43:27
Post by: simonyunhe on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:02:09
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 12 March 2018, 09:03:56
There are lots of novelty keys but I love them! Let’s make this happened!
Not everything in there is set in stone, I'm just throwing out some ideas for now. :)
Getting rid of the Bat is probably for the best:
(https://i.imgur.com/owkIwj6.png)
Post by: jimirolln on Mon, 12 March 2018, 10:09:23
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 12 March 2018, 10:51:48
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Frv8KDj.png)
Yes!!!
Post by: ullr on Mon, 12 March 2018, 15:51:43
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 12 March 2018, 16:24:08
whew...looks beautiful...ima step back and let you do your thing...is there any chance you or kono have a discord...if not can we petition geek hack mods to create an official gh discord...i wont make a rukus...it would go along way as far as keeping in the loop on it...no big deal tho
Input Club has discord, you can find the address on this page: https://input.club/ (https://input.club/)
Post by: dsaf on Mon, 12 March 2018, 18:31:34
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 12 March 2018, 18:33:52
(https://i.imgur.com/mNrILzg.png)
A note on Harley's colors: she has white skin and wears a black and red outfit. We are limited to 2-shot colors, and making the legends black didn't look right. These colors are not final, but is closest to the source IMO.
Not a fan of comics, not a fan of green+purple, but tempted to get this on the sheer quality of execution...
Thank you for the kind words :)
Post by: Oblotzky on Mon, 12 March 2018, 18:35:54
Post by: jimirolln on Mon, 12 March 2018, 19:24:01
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 12 March 2018, 20:11:24
that does sound good...but i will be honest...if they make the r4 1u harley key...they could make it whatever colors they want and it will still be fire
The Harley face is too wide for 1u. It can be done but she'll be small, and will need a separate plate from 1.25u. The Harley diamonds are there for your 1u needs.
Post by: jimirolln on Mon, 12 March 2018, 20:14:36
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 12 March 2018, 20:46:26
Post by: lovetree on Tue, 13 March 2018, 01:30:01
TM R1 on KIRA60 (not mine)
Great! :thumb:
Post by: truong3016 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 02:13:43
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 13 March 2018, 02:53:13
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 03:30:39
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 03:38:09
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 03:40:59
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 13 March 2018, 07:01:27
Post by: Kunkka on Tue, 13 March 2018, 08:18:12
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 13 March 2018, 12:31:23
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 13 March 2018, 12:52:28
i disagree...there needs to be options for the purpose of individual builds...i wouldn't use the r1 joker either but some one might and not using it doesn't make it any less collectible...you will have the option to keep the extra keys...as the art is bad az f...auction...trade or sell at meetups for a premium...hell even if you only got 10 a piece for em you could coup your cost for the keys you needed...and if you think that sounds crazy go look at the cost of a basic az artisan...sure these are not what most would catalog as artisan...but for me...if it looks like art...you get the point
I kinda agree and get what your saying.. I just meant more for verity and price.. thought honestly price might not even be a factor. I just don't like to see novelties repeated to much.. give a bit of verity. Also I think it makes the novelties you do have perhaps a bit more unique and special? I mean it wouldn't stop me from getting the set.. just something wanted to point out as the joker is by far the most repeated novelty.. thought honestly I could see it being the most popular novelty on the same token.
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 13:25:56
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 13:29:28
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 13:33:37
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 13 March 2018, 13:44:21
just realized you must have meant f...the scooped f will be there
You are right that was typo
Post by: beekey on Tue, 13 March 2018, 15:18:11
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:09:07
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:19:28
Post by: Vloshko on Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:31:47
It will be made by Signature Plastics, yes :)
/clap
Current novelties:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mNrILzg.png)
A note on Harley's colors: she has white skin and wears a black and red outfit. We are limited to 2-shot colors, and making the legends black didn't look right. These colors are not final, but is closest to the source IMO.
I like these a lot.
*edit: Dvorak compatibility kit would be nice
Post by: Vloshko on Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:34:26
lovely set, just hate the profile. enjoy guys i'm sure round 2 will be awesomeShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/n1nKoa4.jpg)
I was always curious if this board is a Lustro (https://www.originativeco.com/products/lustro) that was purple at time of sale or you customized the metal in some way on your own. (I meant to put this in previous comment, but messed up)
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 16:44:52
Post by: Vloshko on Tue, 13 March 2018, 17:00:30
mystery man...thats a cool avatar...i had all kinds of questions about that case myself...im not crazy about the lo pro and the floating key look on most builds but that case is absolutely insane next level...looks like a simple carage with a cage base...so future
Thanks, it was a simple image I created to use for my glass art more than 8 years ago. I added the link to the case in my previous post.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 13 March 2018, 17:04:43
As long as you’re adding in the scooped J why not the H is well? Everything else looks awesome!
scoops are used for homing...can't imagine why the h would need that...did yall scoop the h on necro?
Colemak and Dvorak use H U N and T for homing keys together, so it only makes sense if a Colevrak kit is offered in this buy.
Post by: Vloshko on Tue, 13 March 2018, 17:16:19
*line edit: word order, spelling, usage*
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 13 March 2018, 17:32:21
should have more 1.5u novelties, at least 2 for my 96 keyboard ;D
I'll look into this.
By any chance adding a 3u spacebar?
Adding a spacebar kit might be a good idea, thanks. Please be warned though that adding all these kits and not having them tip will probably mean cancellations, so I can't promise everything I do a mock-up for will make it into the final set.
Will this round be created using Signature Plastics aggressive 1.1.2.3.4.3 profile or its spherical 2.2.3.3.3.3 profile?
*line edit: word order, spelling, usage*
It will be 1-1-2-3-4-4 like Round 1, I wouldn't want R1 people to have mismatching keys if they just decide to get a kit or two, or be forced to buy because of the change in profile rows.
This is the current mock-up for all-green f-row:
(https://i.imgur.com/N6qdnN4.jpg)
Post by: bluesclera on Tue, 13 March 2018, 17:34:34
Post by: Peppermint216 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 17:37:32
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 17:53:29
Kids, this just goes to show that if you do absolutely nothing and whine about not getting what you wanted long enough, good things happen to you.
This has been another life lesson with Ty.
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 13 March 2018, 18:35:14
(https://i.imgur.com/rN6heJQ.png)
Anything related to spacebars and split layouts will probably be put in a spacebar kit.
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:36:12
Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:40:50
Post by: fatpolomanjr on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:41:01
the space bar is 6u tho right?...this might sound crazy but i only need the r3 control and the 6u space bar...there are alot of keys in there i wouldn't be able to do much with...no suggestions...just...dam
Yep. Tsangan kits like that usually come packaged with compatibility for all the different hhkb and 65% layouts. The kit itself should be under $45 given enough quantities ordered.
Post by: jdcarpe on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:41:05
the space bar is 6u tho right?...this might sound crazy but i only need the r3 control and the 6u space bar...there are alot of keys in there i wouldn't be able to do much with...no suggestions...just...dam
Most likely 7u. It’s most common, because it works for things like 84/86 layouts, as well as modified HHKB. 6u is not common, because it’s really only used in “true” HHKB layout, and most people prefer the symmetrical layout.
Post by: fallingloonie on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:41:14
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:44:11
Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:49:57
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 19:54:15
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 20:01:41
Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 13 March 2018, 20:15:53
https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/001kit00bsg
Looks like the GB ended very recently, so you might be able to change your order to one with blockers for the symmetric 7u HHKB layout since it's not like they've made the cases yet. Just explain how passionate you are about using Troubled Minds on the board.
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 13 March 2018, 20:18:46
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 13 March 2018, 21:28:58
should have more 1.5u novelties, at least 2 for my 96 keyboard ;D
I'll look into this.By any chance adding a 3u spacebar?
Adding a spacebar kit might be a good idea, thanks. Please be warned though that adding all these kits and not having them tip will probably mean cancellations, so I can't promise everything I do a mock-up for will make it into the final set.Will this round be created using Signature Plastics aggressive 1.1.2.3.4.3 profile or its spherical 2.2.3.3.3.3 profile?
*line edit: word order, spelling, usage*
It will be 1-1-2-3-4-4 like Round 1, I wouldn't want R1 people to have mismatching keys if they just decide to get a kit or two, or be forced to buy because of the change in profile rows.
This is the current mock-up for all-green f-row:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/N6qdnN4.jpg)
This is going to beee sooo dam epic man. Can you give us an ETA so my pocketbook can be ready. This is the most iconic set I have been waiting for since I’ve started doing keyboards
Post by: Vloshko on Tue, 13 March 2018, 22:03:46
This is going to beee sooo dam epic man. Can you give us an ETA so my pocketbook can be ready. This is the most iconic set I have been waiting for since I’ve started doing keyboards
I concur with both statements. I have the same question.
Post by: crusader_alex on Wed, 14 March 2018, 04:56:04
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Post by: jimirolln on Wed, 14 March 2018, 13:07:38
Post by: FirstClaes on Wed, 14 March 2018, 14:35:35
Hoping for some Norde love ;D
Post by: tanvir175 on Wed, 14 March 2018, 16:24:57
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 14 March 2018, 17:51:32
(https://i.imgur.com/cDnyP5Z.png)
NOTE:
I am planning to add a few green on purple novelties to this kit, it's very likely that I'll use the faces.
take your time thesis...we've waited two years...whats a few months...lets get it right
art mods icon keys...all that stuff will be worth more than msrp on the after and 90% of the people who are dying for it to drop don't even know where to find it...the after markup on this set will be more than furniture...look into that if you don't know...just for kicks
i don't plan to buy sets to tax those people...just sayn
mass drop wouldn't let me link the site...i had to link in the description...i don't expect many to find it...and if md does they might rip the poll
sorry for using the pulse in the poll mito...couldn't post with out a second option...and it was the best...love the set
https://www.massdrop.com/vote/sa-keysets (https://www.massdrop.com/vote/sa-keysets) you're hilarious man, lol.
Post by: bluesclera on Wed, 14 March 2018, 17:52:48
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 14 March 2018, 18:12:10
Thank you for showing your interest. I made a draft for the purple mods kit using the base, numpad and non-standard kit modifiers. If people are interested in this please let us know, and we can discuss what keys we can add/remove from the kit.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cDnyP5Z.png)
NOTE:
I am planning to add a few green on purple novelties to this kit, it's very likely that I'll use the faces.
My wallet is crying but I'm so in.
You should move the 7u spacebar to alphas kits or so though, someone with 7u would need to purchase the regular specialties kit just for that.
Oh and Alphas already include F1-F4 and F9-F12 in purple so you can scratch those too.
Lastly, since you have chose to use abbreviations for keys like SCRLK and PGDN, it only seems fitting to use BKSP for the 1u BACK SPACE as well.
Post by: dsaf on Wed, 14 March 2018, 18:16:03
...a complete green function row in mod kit btw, or any similar solution. not really a fan of sandwich colors in FN row
I also like this idea. Did a super lazy copy/paste job to see what it'd look like with a fully green top row as well as green ~` and |\, and I think it looks spiffy
:thumb: ALL GREEN top row please!
+1
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 14 March 2018, 18:21:31
Thank you for showing your interest. I made a draft for the purple mods kit using the base, numpad and non-standard kit modifiers. If people are interested in this please let us know, and we can discuss what keys we can add/remove from the kit.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cDnyP5Z.png)
NOTE:
I am planning to add a few green on purple novelties to this kit, it's very likely that I'll use the faces.
My wallet is crying but I'm so in.
You should move the 7u spacebar to alphas kits or so though, someone with 7u would need to purchase the regular specialties kit just for that.
But if you need the 7u spacebar you'll probably be needing the rest of the non-standard bottom row mods right?
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 14 March 2018, 18:23:46
Thank you for showing your interest. I made a draft for the purple mods kit using the base, numpad and non-standard kit modifiers. If people are interested in this please let us know, and we can discuss what keys we can add/remove from the kit.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cDnyP5Z.png)
NOTE:
I am planning to add a few green on purple novelties to this kit, it's very likely that I'll use the faces.
My wallet is crying but I'm so in.
You should move the 7u spacebar to alphas kits or so though, someone with 7u would need to purchase the regular specialties kit just for that.
But if you need the 7u spacebar you'll probably be needing the rest of the non-standard bottom row mods right?
I'm talking about people that only want to go for alphas + purple mods for a WKL, they'll have to buy the green non-standard kit for the 7u spacebar.
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 14 March 2018, 18:37:18
Thank you for showing your interest. I made a draft for the purple mods kit using the base, numpad and non-standard kit modifiers. If people are interested in this please let us know, and we can discuss what keys we can add/remove from the kit.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cDnyP5Z.png)
NOTE:
I am planning to add a few green on purple novelties to this kit, it's very likely that I'll use the faces.
My wallet is crying but I'm so in.
You should move the 7u spacebar to alphas kits or so though, someone with 7u would need to purchase the regular specialties kit just for that.
But if you need the 7u spacebar you'll probably be needing the rest of the non-standard bottom row mods right?
I'm talking about people that only want to go for alphas + purple mods for a WKL, they'll have to buy the green non-standard kit for the 7u spacebar.
I see, my current choices are adding a 7u spacebar in the purple mods kit, or offering a spacebar kit. Thanks!
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:12:41
- Removed F1-F4 and F9-F12 Purplekeys
- Removed 1x META and added 1x ALT and 1x CTRL (ALL 1u and similar changes will be made to non-standard)
- Removed 1x 1u SHIFT (this key will be removed from the non-standard kit too)
(https://i.imgur.com/g988k8E.png)
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:27:49
A quick update:
- Removed F1-F4 and F9-F12 Purplekeys
- Removed 1x META and added 1x ALT and 1x CTRL (ALL 1u and similar changes will be made to non-standard)
- Removed 1x 1u SHIFT (this key will be removed from the non-standard kit too)
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/g988k8E.png)
Purple ISO enter an option? I only admittedly had a quick glance but only saw the green one on page 1
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:49:22
A quick update:
- Removed F1-F4 and F9-F12 Purplekeys
- Removed 1x META and added 1x ALT and 1x CTRL (ALL 1u and similar changes will be made to non-standard)
- Removed 1x 1u SHIFT (this key will be removed from the non-standard kit too)
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/g988k8E.png)
Purple ISO enter an option? I only admittedly had a quick glance but only saw the green one on page 1
Now that you mention it, how about I add purple ISO mods to the ISO kit?
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:58:51
Works for meA quick update:
- Removed F1-F4 and F9-F12 Purplekeys
- Removed 1x META and added 1x ALT and 1x CTRL (ALL 1u and similar changes will be made to non-standard)
- Removed 1x 1u SHIFT (this key will be removed from the non-standard kit too)
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/g988k8E.png)
Purple ISO enter an option? I only admittedly had a quick glance but only saw the green one on page 1
Now that you mention it, how about I add purple ISO mods to the ISO kit?
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Post by: jimirolln on Wed, 14 March 2018, 23:51:46
Post by: hailong88 on Thu, 15 March 2018, 04:35:53
Post by: kriminal on Thu, 15 March 2018, 07:21:19
Post by: BitLuder on Thu, 15 March 2018, 12:48:05
Actually I will buy two sets with those kits, as I know that this is the one set that can get my brother dragged into the world of mechanical keyboards.
Post by: breckstar on Thu, 15 March 2018, 16:27:57
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 15 March 2018, 16:34:44
Mono legend kit?
Would be dope, but since this isn't a Massdrop run it's too risky to add to the GB I believe.
Post by: Saphieron on Thu, 15 March 2018, 16:52:58
I will buy this in a heartbeat and not complain about the wait or price at all. But only if there is a novelties and norde kit available. I have wanted this set for a long time, but without norde, I can’t use it, and without novelties it is not as cool.
Actually I will buy two sets with those kits, as I know that this is the one set that can get my brother dragged into the world of mechanical keyboards.
In that regard, is there any info on a norde kit? I would totally dig that. Also with the novelities, i read somewhere, that there might be some other (additional?) novelities. Any chance there's an update I might have missed?
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 15 March 2018, 17:19:57
(https://i.imgur.com/Zv9iLlh.png)
Post by: Bubblegum on Thu, 15 March 2018, 18:04:52
Is this the NORDE kit? The image is from R1:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Zv9iLlh.png)
Not sure about all the languages, but it looks spot on for swedish (and I think Finland has the exact same layout). Others should probably chime in. Another point I'd like to add is that it would be great if ISO Return/Enter key and 1.25u Shift were included in the International/Norde kit. Otherwise "NorDe" users has to pick up the UK kit also.
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 15 March 2018, 18:18:45
This would cover all the major international countries and have quite good chances at making 25 units. UK people will of course be upset, but wouldn't you rather pay 20$ more than have a high risk of the kit failing because buyers were split between a UK and a NorDe kit?
(https://i.imgur.com/dunGpda.jpg)
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 15 March 2018, 18:24:05
MoreNot sure about all the languages, but it looks spot on for swedish (and I think Finland has the exact same layout). Others should probably chime in. Another point I'd like to add is that it would be great if ISO Return/Enter key and 1.25u Shift were included in the International/Norde kit. Otherwise "NorDe" users has to pick up the UK kit also.Is this the NORDE kit? The image is from R1:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Zv9iLlh.png)
How would you guys feels about a NorDeUK kit with only secondary legends? (just a quick mockup, legends would be centered etc)
This would cover all the major international countries and have quite good chances at making 25 units. UK people will of course be upset, but wouldn't you rather pay 20$ more than have a high risk of the kit failing because buyers were split between a UK and a NorDe kit?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JrdcStm.jpg)
I've requested for a poll regarding Norde+UK vs NorDeUK, and I hope we get a significant number of participants to vote on it. In the mean time, I'll just be updating the ISO kit as separate until we have decided on this issue.
These are the current kits. I've reflected changes to the non-standard kit similar to the adjustments in the purple mods kit, and added purple ISO mods to the ISO kit.
(https://i.imgur.com/V8LgCN6.jpg)
edit:
Post by: DillonHightower on Thu, 15 March 2018, 18:35:38
MoreNot sure about all the languages, but it looks spot on for swedish (and I think Finland has the exact same layout). Others should probably chime in. Another point I'd like to add is that it would be great if ISO Return/Enter key and 1.25u Shift were included in the International/Norde kit. Otherwise "NorDe" users has to pick up the UK kit also.Is this the NORDE kit? The image is from R1:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Zv9iLlh.png)How would you guys feels about a NorDeUK kit with only secondary legends? (just a quick mockup, legends would be centered etc)
This would cover all the major international countries and have quite good chances at making 25 units. UK people will of course be upset, but wouldn't you rather pay 20$ more than have a high risk of the kit failing because buyers were split between a UK and a NorDe kit?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JrdcStm.jpg)
I've requested for a poll regarding Norde+UK vs NorDeUK, and I hope we get a significant number of participants to vote on it. In the mean time, I'll just be updating the ISO kit as separate until we have decided on this issue.
These are the current kits. I've reflected changes to the non-standard kit similar to the adjustments in the purple mods kit, and added purple ISO mods to the ISO kit.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KHm1g1q.jpg)
where is the link to the poll?
Also , has the all purple mods been thrown out ? That was going to be a must buy for me .. I love green but having the option to go all purple is awesome as well.
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 15 March 2018, 18:50:56
MoreNot sure about all the languages, but it looks spot on for swedish (and I think Finland has the exact same layout). Others should probably chime in. Another point I'd like to add is that it would be great if ISO Return/Enter key and 1.25u Shift were included in the International/Norde kit. Otherwise "NorDe" users has to pick up the UK kit also.Is this the NORDE kit? The image is from R1:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Zv9iLlh.png)How would you guys feels about a NorDeUK kit with only secondary legends? (just a quick mockup, legends would be centered etc)
This would cover all the major international countries and have quite good chances at making 25 units. UK people will of course be upset, but wouldn't you rather pay 20$ more than have a high risk of the kit failing because buyers were split between a UK and a NorDe kit?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/JrdcStm.jpg)
I've requested for a poll regarding Norde+UK vs NorDeUK, and I hope we get a significant number of participants to vote on it. In the mean time, I'll just be updating the ISO kit as separate until we have decided on this issue.
These are the current kits. I've reflected changes to the non-standard kit similar to the adjustments in the purple mods kit, and added purple ISO mods to the ISO kit.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KHm1g1q.jpg)
where is the link to the poll?
Also , has the all purple mods been thrown out ? That was going to be a must buy for me .. I love green but having the option to go all purple is awesome as well.
I asked for a poll in the thred, we'll have to wait for the mod to set it up. The purple mods are still included, it's just not in the main render for kits.
Post by: forevermadrigal on Thu, 15 March 2018, 18:57:09
Post by: dsaf on Thu, 15 March 2018, 19:09:20
UK people will of course be upset, but wouldn't you rather pay 20$ more than have a high risk of the kit failing because buyers were split between a UK and a NorDe kit?
What made me upset is when SA 1965 - a keyset about a British band - did not get a British key kit due to low demand :mad:. Also GMK Led Zep. All we need now is an SA/GMK Thor keyset without a NorDe kit!
For me decision point in 2018 is not $20 but rather SA Pulse vs SA Retro vs SA T.M. vs SA Nuclear Data vs SA Danger Zone etc.
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 15 March 2018, 21:06:11
Please vote for either one big kit or separate UK and NorDe kits.
Post by: keebwarrior on Thu, 15 March 2018, 23:04:46
Post by: breckstar on Thu, 15 March 2018, 23:21:34
Still don't see icon mods :thumb: :thumb:I love me some icon mods
Post by: beekey on Fri, 16 March 2018, 02:01:16
I see, my current choices are adding a 7u spacebar in the purple mods kit, or offering a spacebar kit. Thanks!
Yes, please add spacebar kit(s). Would love to put this on a BananaSplit/DZ670 with 2.25 and 2.75 blanks/spacebars.
Post by: Vloshko on Fri, 16 March 2018, 15:50:50
did I miss anything?
Post by: Vloshko on Fri, 16 March 2018, 17:33:05
...wouldn't you rather pay 20$ more than have a high risk of the kit failing because buyers were split between a UK and a NorDe kit?
This is the most logical solution. I hope the "One big NorDeUK kit" wins the poll.
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 17 March 2018, 02:17:52
Posted this: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/84yobn/ic_sa_troubled_minds_round_2_news/
did I miss anything?
Thank you for spreading the word, I don't think you missed anything :)
Post by: pomk on Sat, 17 March 2018, 06:15:36
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 17 March 2018, 07:08:34
If the combined kit for uk & norde will not be the choice, please add the ISO enter & shift to the norde kit as well. It’s only fair that we are not forced to subsidize the uk kit if they vote to have it separate.
I understand, I agree but will have to ask the opinion of others first. Thanks!
Post by: pomk on Sat, 17 March 2018, 10:50:15
I'm just saying that they will not be truly separate if I need to purchase both in order to be able to use the norde one.If the combined kit for uk & norde will not be the choice, please add the ISO enter & shift to the norde kit as well. It’s only fair that we are not forced to subsidize the uk kit if they vote to have it separate.
I understand, I agree but will have to ask the opinion of others first. Thanks!
Post by: TastyNico on Sat, 17 March 2018, 13:29:02
I prefer Oblotzky's suggestion though because I think 3 legends per cap are ugly on SA.
Thank you a lot for paying attention to a minority like us NorDE users, thesiscamper. ;D (But hey, 9009 sold like 70 international kits, right?)
I hope this will be happening soon.
And if the information on PMK is up to date ("SA two-shot sets - 5 to 6 months depending on size"), we might even have the set before 2019!
Post by: Gghi on Sat, 17 March 2018, 13:53:15
Post by: Vloshko on Sat, 17 March 2018, 22:08:22
Finally!!! I'm soooooo in. Why there's no Dvorak/Colemak kit, plz add a DC kit!!! begging
I'd like a "Colevrak" kit too, I honestly don't know how many people would be interested in it, so I'm not even going to shoot a rough estimate. I'd say put up another poll once the Norde/UK one finishes.
Post by: Vloshko on Sat, 17 March 2018, 22:19:31
See:Still don't see icon mods :thumb: :thumb:I love me some icon mods
Current novelties:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mNrILzg.png)
Post by: xyverz on Sat, 17 March 2018, 23:15:41
*edit: Dvorak compatibility kit would be nice
I second this. I like this set, but can't see spending so much on a kit without being able to have my layout represented. The full Colevrak kit would get quite a bit of interest, I'm sure.
Post by: ullr on Sat, 17 March 2018, 23:21:32
Post by: Brickster on Sun, 18 March 2018, 18:16:40
*edit: Dvorak compatibility kit would be nice
I second this. I like this set, but can't see spending so much on a kit without being able to have my layout represented. The full Colevrak kit would get quite a bit of interest, I'm sure.
Interested too!
Post by: keebwarrior on Sun, 18 March 2018, 21:30:30
I would totally buy a colverak set as well*edit: Dvorak compatibility kit would be nice
I second this. I like this set, but can't see spending so much on a kit without being able to have my layout represented. The full Colevrak kit would get quite a bit of interest, I'm sure.
Interested too!
Post by: rioc on Mon, 19 March 2018, 10:31:53
Post by: elfick on Mon, 19 March 2018, 12:00:51
oooh, thinking about it, is it possible to have 2 1.5U EVA Novelties? For all us WKL lovers out there?Yes please!
Post by: Vloshko on Mon, 19 March 2018, 12:17:05
oooh, thinking about it, is it possible to have 2 1.5U EVA Novelties? For all us WKL lovers out there?
For some reason WKL completely escaped my mind... and I pretty much only have WKL boards lol
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 19 March 2018, 18:15:44
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 20 March 2018, 08:12:23
(https://i.imgur.com/QdapOTr.png)
Post by: DillonHightower on Tue, 20 March 2018, 08:32:10
Update to the novelties. Added 1.5u keys as requested, removed one of the 1u Joker faces.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QdapOTr.png)
Those black ones are very nice. I can not wait to see this when it is all said and done!
Post by: ullr on Tue, 20 March 2018, 08:34:14
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 20 March 2018, 08:48:27
The novelties just keep getting better... One of the compromises I disliked in Berserk was that some of the accent color mods in the renders didn’t make it
I understand. Maxkey's system is great for mass production, not so great for flexibility especially with colors and novelty sizes.
Post by: beekey on Tue, 20 March 2018, 09:24:10
Update to the novelties. Added 1.5u keys as requested, removed one of the 1u Joker faces.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QdapOTr.png)
Wow, better and better. The wait will be pain until this arrives. :)
Post by: rioc on Tue, 20 March 2018, 10:11:47
Update to the novelties. Added 1.5u keys as requested, removed one of the 1u Joker faces.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QdapOTr.png)
F*#K YEAH!
Love it! especially the Seele now being black... will have to use that on the 1.25 ISO left Shift ;) (since WKL) ;P
Post by: Gghi on Tue, 20 March 2018, 14:35:16
Update to the novelties. Added 1.5u keys as requested, removed one of the 1u Joker faces.plz update a DC kit as wellShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/QdapOTr.png)
Post by: Vloshko on Tue, 20 March 2018, 15:31:39
Update to the novelties. Added 1.5u keys as requested, removed one of the 1u Joker faces.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QdapOTr.png)
I feel like there should be a version of Red NERV on Black Key
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 20 March 2018, 17:30:04
(https://i.imgur.com/oCERFql.jpg)
Update to the novelties. Added 1.5u keys as requested, removed one of the 1u Joker faces.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QdapOTr.png)
I feel like there should be a version of Red NERV on Black Key
We can't be doing every color combinations though, and I already feel like we have too many novelties just to satisfy most layouts people use. :))
Post by: Vloshko on Tue, 20 March 2018, 17:55:11
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 20 March 2018, 18:17:13
I concur, I just meant since R1 had the white & red version of it, maybe this time, black & red version. But whatever you think is best, you're the creator after all. We'll love it regardless.
I see... I've received several comments about just keeping most of the novelties the same while adding new ones, both from here and the China forum. It's why I initially replaced some keys and brought them back.
Regarding COLEMAK+DVORAK, are these the right keys? This image is from R1:
(https://i.imgur.com/cYoxxCn.jpg)
If we add this I'll include the deep dish Harley H to this kit alone.
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 20 March 2018, 20:04:28
I concur, I just meant since R1 had the white & red version of it, maybe this time, black & red version. But whatever you think is best, you're the creator after all. We'll love it regardless.
I see... I've received several comments about just keeping most of the novelties the same while adding new ones, both from here and the China forum. It's why I initially replaced some keys and brought them back.
Regarding COLEMAK+DVORAK, are these the right keys? This image is from R1:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cYoxxCn.jpg)
If we add this I'll include the deep dish Harley H to this kit alone.
if I understand correctly your talking about adding the H novelty to this kit Exclusively to maybe help boost sales? I think if thats the case its a bad idea.. could drive customers away not only from this project but future projects. I mean people already get upset having to buy kits they don't need for a single key. To be forced to buy a kit to help it meet MOQ for a single novelty would most likely go over poorly.
Post by: Oblotzky on Tue, 20 March 2018, 20:06:37
I concur, I just meant since R1 had the white & red version of it, maybe this time, black & red version. But whatever you think is best, you're the creator after all. We'll love it regardless.
I see... I've received several comments about just keeping most of the novelties the same while adding new ones, both from here and the China forum. It's why I initially replaced some keys and brought them back.
Regarding COLEMAK+DVORAK, are these the right keys? This image is from R1:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cYoxxCn.jpg)
If we add this I'll include the deep dish Harley H to this kit alone.
if I understand correctly your talking about adding the H novelty to this kit Exclusively to maybe help boost sales? I think if thats the case its a bad idea.. could drive customers away not only from this project but future projects. I mean people already get upset having to buy kits they don't need for a single key. To be forced to buy a kit to help it meet MOQ for a single novelty would most likely go over poorly.
No, Colevrak has HUNT as homing keys, so he will add Harley novelty H as a dished key to this kit only as noone else would use it. You'll have it non-dished in the novelties kit don't worry.
Post by: HotRoderX on Tue, 20 March 2018, 20:21:48
I concur, I just meant since R1 had the white & red version of it, maybe this time, black & red version. But whatever you think is best, you're the creator after all. We'll love it regardless.
I see... I've received several comments about just keeping most of the novelties the same while adding new ones, both from here and the China forum. It's why I initially replaced some keys and brought them back.
Regarding COLEMAK+DVORAK, are these the right keys? This image is from R1:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/cYoxxCn.jpg)
If we add this I'll include the deep dish Harley H to this kit alone.
if I understand correctly your talking about adding the H novelty to this kit Exclusively to maybe help boost sales? I think if thats the case its a bad idea.. could drive customers away not only from this project but future projects. I mean people already get upset having to buy kits they don't need for a single key. To be forced to buy a kit to help it meet MOQ for a single novelty would most likely go over poorly.
No, Colevrak has HUNT as homing keys, so he will add Harley novelty H as a dished key to this kit only as noone else would use it. You'll have it non-dished in the novelties kit don't worry.
very cool!!!! I want this set so bad!
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 21 March 2018, 10:53:36
(https://i.imgur.com/RRgXmnZ.png)
Post by: Vloshko on Wed, 21 March 2018, 13:00:46
Here's an updated COLEMAK+DVORAK mock-up with the Harley novelty homing key. For those who will use this kit, please check the keys if everything is in order, thanks.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RRgXmnZ.png)
Everything needed for both COLEMAK & DVORAK are correct in that image.
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 21 March 2018, 13:30:11
Here's an updated COLEMAK+DVORAK mock-up with the Harley novelty homing key. For those who will use this kit, please check the keys if everything is in order, thanks.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RRgXmnZ.png)
Everything needed for both COLEMAK & DVORAK are correct in that image.
Actually, the Backspace key looks like it's 2.25u, should be 1.75u ;D
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 21 March 2018, 17:18:53
Here's an updated COLEMAK+DVORAK mock-up with the Harley novelty homing key. For those who will use this kit, please check the keys if everything is in order, thanks.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RRgXmnZ.png)
Everything needed for both COLEMAK & DVORAK are correct in that image.
Actually, the Backspace key looks like it's 2.25u, should be 1.75u ;D
Thanks, fixed it.
(https://i.imgur.com/o08DBqR.png)
Post by: keebwarrior on Wed, 21 March 2018, 19:56:28
Here's an updated COLEMAK+DVORAK mock-up with the Harley novelty homing key. For those who will use this kit, please check the keys if everything is in order, thanks.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RRgXmnZ.png)
Everything needed for both COLEMAK & DVORAK are correct in that image.
Actually, the Backspace key looks like it's 2.25u, should be 1.75u ;D
Thanks, fixed it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/o08DBqR.png)
And now the set it perfect! Ergodox + Colemak = perfection
Post by: keebwarrior on Wed, 21 March 2018, 20:12:46
Right now it's 2-3-4-4 (should be 2-3-4-3?)
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 21 March 2018, 20:49:56
Shouldn't the 40% and ortho set have a r3 bottom row?
Right now it's 2-3-4-4 (should be 2-3-4-3?)
I will look into this next. Is it just replacing the R4 label with R3, or are there keys that need to be moved?
Post by: Parva Ovis on Thu, 22 March 2018, 00:38:58
The 40% and Ortho set should match the rest of the kits in sculpt, not have a different bottom row.Shouldn't the 40% and ortho set have a r3 bottom row?
Right now it's 2-3-4-4 (should be 2-3-4-3?)
I will look into this next. Is it just replacing the R4 label with R3, or are there keys that need to be moved?
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 22 March 2018, 08:24:41
The 40% and Ortho set should match the rest of the kits in sculpt, not have a different bottom row.Shouldn't the 40% and ortho set have a r3 bottom row?
Right now it's 2-3-4-4 (should be 2-3-4-3?)
I will look into this next. Is it just replacing the R4 label with R3, or are there keys that need to be moved?
I agree solely because of the novelties kit. There are many novelties that can be used on a 40% bottom row. Otherwise I would agree with keebwarrior, Plancks/40% keebs barely ever have an angled case, making a R3 bottom row much more comfortable. Only the bigger layouts have the usual 5-8deg angles that is complimented by an angled R4 bottom row.
Post by: wodan on Thu, 22 March 2018, 08:52:14
Would love to see a NORDE kit! With just a 25 moq this might make it?
Can you please point out a proper NORDE kit?
Thanks for getting in touch ;)
My original idea for a NORDE "Essentials" kit has always been to drag the UK people into this.
It's better to reach MOQ together than fail individually.
Making individual kits for each group makes sense in large audience GBs like on Massdrop where each kit gets 50+ sales ...
Post by: Hammer on Thu, 22 March 2018, 09:17:12
But it's in r3 profile :(
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 22 March 2018, 09:27:43
We used to make this,
But it's in r3 profile :(
I'm in love!! ;)
Post by: thesiscamper on Thu, 22 March 2018, 09:32:13
We used to make this,
But it's in r3 profile :(
I bought one, but a friend asked for it so I gave it away. Maybe you'd be interested to make it in R1 1u profile? :)
Would love to see a NORDE kit! With just a 25 moq this might make it?
Can you please point out a proper NORDE kit?
Thanks for getting in touch ;)
My original idea for a NORDE "Essentials" kit has always been to drag the UK people into this.
It's better to reach MOQ together than fail individually.
Making individual kits for each group makes sense in large audience GBs like on Massdrop where each kit gets 50+ sales ...
It seems this is what the majority wants, so I'd say we're going with the NorDeUK route.
Post by: Gghi on Fri, 23 March 2018, 01:31:21
Here's an updated COLEMAK+DVORAK mock-up with the Harley novelty homing key. For those who will use this kit, please check the keys if everything is in order, thanks.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RRgXmnZ.png)
Everything needed for both COLEMAK & DVORAK are correct in that image.
Actually, the Backspace key looks like it's 2.25u, should be 1.75u ;D
Thanks, fixed it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/o08DBqR.png)
Need a "J" novelty as well. Since the "J" in the novelties is R3. Thx!!!
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 23 March 2018, 02:09:56
Here's an updated COLEMAK+DVORAK mock-up with the Harley novelty homing key. For those who will use this kit, please check the keys if everything is in order, thanks.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RRgXmnZ.png)
Everything needed for both COLEMAK & DVORAK are correct in that image.
Actually, the Backspace key looks like it's 2.25u, should be 1.75u ;D
Thanks, fixed it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/o08DBqR.png)
Need a "J" novelty as well. Since the "J" in the novelties is R3. Thx!!!
One has to get the J novelty from the novelties kit like everyone else, since it's not a key specific to the COLEVRAK kit.
Post by: pomk on Fri, 23 March 2018, 03:01:41
The problem is that the profile is different. This kit needs R4 J, while the novelties have just R3 and deep dish R3.Here's an updated COLEMAK+DVORAK mock-up with the Harley novelty homing key. For those who will use this kit, please check the keys if everything is in order, thanks.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RRgXmnZ.png)
Everything needed for both COLEMAK & DVORAK are correct in that image.
Actually, the Backspace key looks like it's 2.25u, should be 1.75u ;D
Thanks, fixed it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/o08DBqR.png)
Need a "J" novelty as well. Since the "J" in the novelties is R3. Thx!!!
One has to get the J novelty from the novelties kit like everyone else, since it's not a key specific to the COLEVRAK kit.
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 23 March 2018, 04:04:15
The problem is that the profile is different. This kit needs R4 J, while the novelties have just R3 and deep dish R3.
I see, I'll add it then.
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 23 March 2018, 06:53:52
(https://i.imgur.com/0j2QZ2r.png)
Post by: DillonHightower on Fri, 23 March 2018, 08:38:36
Post by: keebwarrior on Fri, 23 March 2018, 08:53:50
Updated COLEMAK+DVORAK kit:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0j2QZ2r.png)
Sorry to be that guy, but it seems that there will also need to be an r2 J novelty key(for the colemak portion of the kit).
Post by: thesiscamper on Fri, 23 March 2018, 09:22:57
@thesis, you sir are awesome l! I can’t thank you enough for taking the time necessary for this type of launch. I can’t believe how accommodating you are being for all the differnt needs. This, hands down will be one of the Best Buy’s this year , if nit ever for a key set. I, along with others , can absolutely not wait for this. Great job mate! Standing ovations for you good sir! 👏👏👏
I just try to add what people deem absolutely important, thanks. In the end it's up to you guys to make the kits tip at the price they end up with :)
Updated COLEMAK+DVORAK kit:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/0j2QZ2r.png)
Sorry to be that guy, but it seems that there will also need to be an r2 J novelty key(for the colemak portion of the kit).
Thank you for catching that, updated:
(https://i.imgur.com/f5lfqi5.png)
Post by: beekey on Fri, 23 March 2018, 13:51:26
Post by: Autorefresh on Fri, 23 March 2018, 22:39:17
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 24 March 2018, 08:52:19
sure...the cherry profile is superior for typing...but sa is defiantly easier to look at
Post by: Phenix on Sat, 24 March 2018, 13:21:21
the kit design is fine as well: please make sure to have NORDE a option, I (and quite some fellow Europeans) depend on that kit!
Post by: thesiscamper on Sat, 24 March 2018, 20:46:51
Blank R4 2,25 and 2,75 please. Want this for a split space layout. :D
I will be working on the spacebar kits since I've prepared the NorDeUK one. :thumb:
made an account here just to say that I'm very interested in this, always wanted EVA themed keycaps
Welcome to geekhack, and thank you for your support :D
you are an absolute savage thesis...and after hearing rumors that md and sp are workn to drop this in dcs it is nice to see this is sa
sure...the cherry profile is superior for typing...but sa is defiantly easier to look at
Not sure where you get these rumors, I don't remember considering DCS before haha. I toyed around with the GMK idea.
I am interested in this as well: if this drops I will empty my wallet once more like I did with SA Carbon R2 in summer last year...
the kit design is fine as well: please make sure to have NORDE a option, I (and quite some fellow Europeans) depend on that kit!
Yes it will be an option:
(https://i.imgur.com/aU8TsWo.png)
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 24 March 2018, 21:29:56
i don't remember where i heard it...maybe just in my head and i like to believe the wild things do exist...the thing about the mass drop was they show the requested interest in the set at some 3000...they will practically be giving the sets away based on the business model if all those people join...i haven't heard overwhelmingly positive things about the kono distributions but really like the input guys and think this drop will set a standard for them if they knock it out of the park
Post by: a_ak57 on Sat, 24 March 2018, 22:00:12
Profile comparison:
(http://i.imgur.com/uhmNfy9.jpg)
Thickness (vs Cherry):
(http://i.imgur.com/8X8p0nE.png)
Post by: jimirolln on Sat, 24 March 2018, 23:06:35
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 25 March 2018, 01:50:04
Added some novelties to purple mod kit:
(https://i.imgur.com/KUehVlY.png)
Did a spacebar kit, but I'm not sure if I should separate the spacebars from the space keys since MOQ will probably be a problem:
(https://i.imgur.com/78D4AT9.png)
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 25 March 2018, 02:13:52
Some updates:
Added some novelties to purple mod kit:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KUehVlY.png)
Did a spacebar kit, but I'm not sure if I should separate the spacebars from the space keys since MOQ will probably be a problem:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/78D4AT9.png)
spacebar kit looks fine
3u/3u split is gaining traction in some communities, does SP have SA 3u spacebar molds? i can't remember
Post by: beekey on Sun, 25 March 2018, 05:09:08
Thanks for adding this.
Post by: Oblotzky on Sun, 25 March 2018, 06:30:12
Some updates:
Added some novelties to purple mod kit:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KUehVlY.png)
Did a spacebar kit, but I'm not sure if I should separate the spacebars from the space keys since MOQ will probably be a problem:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/78D4AT9.png)
spacebar kit looks fine
3u/3u split is gaining traction in some communities, does SP have SA 3u spacebar molds? i can't remember
Yes, but concave not convex, so a Spacekey. Spacebars start at 4u.
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 25 March 2018, 08:34:59
Soft-locked Kits:
Alphas/Base
(https://i.imgur.com/ZKQLC1i.png)
TKL Mods
(https://i.imgur.com/NL6XSqF.png)
Numpad
(https://i.imgur.com/j71WV8C.png)
Novelties
(https://i.imgur.com/HYjQnhU.png)
Non-standard:
(https://i.imgur.com/QJslVmY.png)
40s
(https://i.imgur.com/XEulvbF.png)
Purple Mods
(https://i.imgur.com/dQeWQiz.png)
ErgoDox Kit
(https://i.imgur.com/fRJ7vOr.png)
COLEVRAK
(https://i.imgur.com/ZH6i7LG.png)
NorDeUK
(https://i.imgur.com/IR7Qnz3.png)
Spacebars and Space Keys
(https://i.imgur.com/uh35JTh.png)
Post by: Phenix on Sun, 25 March 2018, 08:51:01
any workaround to this?
Post by: keebwarrior on Sun, 25 March 2018, 08:55:24
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 25 March 2018, 09:06:18
So, ergodox kit is most likely out?.
Nope, forgot to upload it.
Post by: dsaf on Sun, 25 March 2018, 10:50:52
Soft-locked Kits:
NoveltiesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/HYjQnhU.png)
Would it make sense to also have an Evangelion "E" key? I don't know what the font would be... Also could be orange on purple...
[attachimg=1]
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 25 March 2018, 11:09:22
Soft-locked Kits:
NoveltiesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/HYjQnhU.png)
Would it make sense to also have an Evangelion "E" key? I don't know what the font would be... Also could be orange on purple...
(Attachment Link)
Sorry, but in my opinion there's already more than enough novelties for the set.
Post by: beekey on Sun, 25 March 2018, 14:21:08
I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.
Soft-locked Kits:
Alphas/BaseShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZKQLC1i.png)
TKL ModsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/NL6XSqF.png)
WOW, so nice. Will get this for sure!
NumpadShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/j71WV8C.png)
NoveltiesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/HYjQnhU.png)
Non-standard:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QJslVmY.png)
40s/OrtholinearShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/XEulvbF.png)
Purple ModsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/dQeWQiz.png)
ErgoDox KitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/fRJ7vOr.png)
COLEVRAKShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZH6i7LG.png)
NorDeUKShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/IR7Qnz3.png)
Spacebars and Space KeysShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/uh35JTh.png)
Post by: schmoktopus on Sun, 25 March 2018, 14:49:33
Post by: Shados on Sun, 25 March 2018, 19:18:16
that has got to be the most detailed and helpful reply ever...ty...can you do a jtk and gmk comparison...i found jtk toxic and really want to put it in the collection but have been hesitant as i know knock offs can be kinda wonky sometimes
JTK is good on thickness and profile (Cherry), but have had various issues with legend inconsistencies and stem molds. They've fixed a lot of their issues, but I would wait at least until after JTK Aqua ships to buy into the next round of JTK Toxic -- they've got some more legend fixes slated for JTK Aqua.
Post by: romeo on Sun, 25 March 2018, 20:50:43
Post by: Gghi on Sun, 25 March 2018, 21:57:57
I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.
Soft-locked Kits:
Alphas/BaseShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZKQLC1i.png)
TKL ModsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/NL6XSqF.png)
NumpadShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/j71WV8C.png)
NoveltiesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/HYjQnhU.png)
Non-standard:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QJslVmY.png)
40s/OrtholinearShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/XEulvbF.png)
Purple ModsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/dQeWQiz.png)
ErgoDox KitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/fRJ7vOr.png)
COLEVRAKShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZH6i7LG.png)
NorDeUKShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/IR7Qnz3.png)
Spacebars and Space KeysShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/uh35JTh.png)
I think something's inappropriate in "Ortholinear" kit.
Since the Ortholinear stands for "planck", "atomic" and "preonic", it should at least have {r3 2u "return"} and {r3 1u"caps lock"}
I think the "Planck/Atomic Kit" in round 1 is prefect. I realize that some other 40's may need extra keys, but i think keys like {2.25u r4 "shift"} {2.25u r3 "return"} never gonna help.
Tell me if i'm wrong.
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 25 March 2018, 22:20:13
I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.
Soft-locked Kits:
Alphas/BaseShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZKQLC1i.png)
TKL ModsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/NL6XSqF.png)
NumpadShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/j71WV8C.png)
NoveltiesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/HYjQnhU.png)
Non-standard:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QJslVmY.png)
40s/OrtholinearShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/XEulvbF.png)
Purple ModsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/dQeWQiz.png)
ErgoDox KitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/fRJ7vOr.png)
COLEVRAKShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZH6i7LG.png)
NorDeUKShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/IR7Qnz3.png)
Spacebars and Space KeysShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/uh35JTh.png)
I think something's inappropriate in "Ortholinear" kit.
Since the Ortholinear stands for "planck", "atomic" and "preonic", it should at least have {r3 2u "return"} and {r3 1u"caps lock"}
I think the "Planck/Atomic Kit" in round 1 is prefect. I realize that some other 40's may need extra keys, but i think keys like {2.25u r4 "shift"} {2.25u r3 "return"} never gonna help.
Tell me if i'm wrong.
The kit names are temporary, I'll just call it the 40s kit for now.
Post by: Gghi on Sun, 25 March 2018, 22:26:17
I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.
Soft-locked Kits:
Alphas/BaseShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZKQLC1i.png)
TKL ModsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/NL6XSqF.png)
NumpadShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/j71WV8C.png)
NoveltiesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/HYjQnhU.png)
Non-standard:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QJslVmY.png)
40s/OrtholinearShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/XEulvbF.png)
Purple ModsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/dQeWQiz.png)
ErgoDox KitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/fRJ7vOr.png)
COLEVRAKShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZH6i7LG.png)
NorDeUKShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/IR7Qnz3.png)
Spacebars and Space KeysShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/uh35JTh.png)
I think something's inappropriate in "Ortholinear" kit.
Since the Ortholinear stands for "planck", "atomic" and "preonic", it should at least have {r3 2u "return"} and {r3 1u"caps lock"}
I think the "Planck/Atomic Kit" in round 1 is prefect. I realize that some other 40's may need extra keys, but i think keys like {2.25u r4 "shift"} {2.25u r3 "return"} never gonna help.
Tell me if i'm wrong.
The kit names are temporary, I'll just call it the 40s kit for now.
Thanks!! Got it!!
Just can't wait see the final version and jump in.
Post by: Saphieron on Mon, 26 March 2018, 08:04:01
I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.
Soft-locked Kits:
Alphas/BaseShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZKQLC1i.png)
TKL ModsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/NL6XSqF.png)
NumpadShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/j71WV8C.png)
NoveltiesShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/HYjQnhU.png)
Non-standard:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/QJslVmY.png)
40sShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/XEulvbF.png)
Purple ModsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/dQeWQiz.png)
ErgoDox KitShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/fRJ7vOr.png)
COLEVRAKShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ZH6i7LG.png)
NorDeUKShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/IR7Qnz3.png)
Spacebars and Space KeysShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/uh35JTh.png)
I am SO keen on getting this, especially the novelities. They are just the greatest!
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 26 March 2018, 08:18:39
Post by: keebwarrior on Mon, 26 March 2018, 08:52:07
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 26 March 2018, 10:27:04
Hopefully the GB is open long enough to reach MOQ for all the sets :)
honestly I would be shocked if this set didn't reach MOQ in the first week. Assuming its not something obscene like 500... most likely the moq will be 150-250... and I would even go as far as betting it will hit that in the first 24hr's of being live.
Post by: elfick on Mon, 26 March 2018, 11:30:55
I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.
Soft-locked Kits:
2x 1u r4 blanks in 40s kit for planck grid layout?
Post by: keebwarrior on Mon, 26 March 2018, 13:00:16
I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.
Soft-locked Kits:
2x 1u r4 blanks in 40s kit for planck grid layout?
I'm mostly worried about the ergodox kit. I know for sure PuLSE will reach MOQ, but I really want this set instead. If the ergodox kit doesn't reach the quota, then this set will be useless for me :(
Post by: Gghi on Mon, 26 March 2018, 13:14:39
I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.
Soft-locked Kits:
2x 1u r4 blanks in 40s kit for planck grid layout?
I'm mostly worried about the ergodox kit. I know for sure PuLSE will reach MOQ, but I really want this set instead. If the ergodox kit doesn't reach the quota, then this set will be useless for me :(
Don’t worry, he said there will be one, and
I think this one MOQ itself.... lol ...
Post by: thesiscamper on Mon, 26 March 2018, 19:30:55
So any eta on GB start and length it will be open? Trying to warm up that pocket book to be ready for this..
It's soon without the ™
Post by: elfick on Tue, 27 March 2018, 13:18:57
Wanted to make sure my question didn't get missed...So any eta on GB start and length it will be open? Trying to warm up that pocket book to be ready for this..
It's soon without the ™
Will there be 1u blanks added to the 40s kit for Planck grid layout?
Thanks!
Post by: notflipperdan420 on Tue, 27 March 2018, 13:59:31
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 27 March 2018, 17:26:11
Wanted to make sure my question didn't get missed...So any eta on GB start and length it will be open? Trying to warm up that pocket book to be ready for this..
It's soon without the ™
Will there be 1u blanks added to the 40s kit for Planck grid layout?
Thanks!
The kits have been soft-locked and sent to SP for quotes. The only thing I can say at the moment is we have an option to lower prices or add keys when tiers are hit. 2 x 1u blank keys shouldn't be a problem, but I don't want to promise anything at the moment.
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 28 March 2018, 02:43:33
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 28 March 2018, 03:24:10
I think you need to add the none standard kit to the mod kit. Truth be told at this point. 90% of people that even buy into this drop will most likely need the non standard kit. Perhaps bundling them will lower the overall price for those people. I honestly think 1.75u has become standard as far as layouts go. I would say a fair number of people also like the stepped caplock's key.
A quick check on SA Oblivion's page shows 500 TKL mods sold vs 200 non-standard. I'll need more proof that they need to be merged, because that will affect the price significantly for everyone.
Post by: sevenseacat on Wed, 28 March 2018, 03:31:38
Post by: hoq on Wed, 28 March 2018, 10:20:48
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Post by: elfick on Wed, 28 March 2018, 10:32:48
It doesn't matter to me as I have no use for that spacebar but will probably end up with both the non-standard and spacebar kit.
Post by: Darknight00z on Wed, 28 March 2018, 11:47:23
Post by: ullr on Wed, 28 March 2018, 14:15:23
Can we get a poll of sculpt 112343 vs 112344? I personally prefer the 112343, as the bottom row curve lip is just not as comfy.
I think he wants it to be compatible with the first round so people can pick up missing kits
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 28 March 2018, 15:07:55
Just curious, but would it make sense to put the spacebar from the non-standard kit into the spacebar kit?
It doesn't matter to me as I have no use for that spacebar but will probably end up with both the non-standard and spacebar kit.
Most people who use winkeyless will need that spacebar, and I don't think they will want to be forced to buy the spacebar kit. Also they'll be different colors.
Can we get a poll of sculpt 112343 vs 112344? I personally prefer the 112343, as the bottom row curve lip is just not as comfy.
This has been discussed in round 1 and I went with R4 for the bottom row. ullr is correct, I want this to be compatible with round 1.
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 28 March 2018, 20:16:18
I think you need to add the none standard kit to the mod kit. Truth be told at this point. 90% of people that even buy into this drop will most likely need the non standard kit. Perhaps bundling them will lower the overall price for those people. I honestly think 1.75u has become standard as far as layouts go. I would say a fair number of people also like the stepped caplock's key.
A quick check on SA Oblivion's page shows 500 TKL mods sold vs 200 non-standard. I'll need more proof that they need to be merged, because that will affect the price significantly for everyone.
kinda shocked by that but the numbers are the numbers. I figured at this point most people would be running a non standard layout. Perhaps 60% and TKL are far more popular then I thought. I guess there also the 40% crowd that be in that number also! I figured it might just save some money over having to buy both if most people buy both anyway. Only half do then there is no point. I would say you need least 75% of people to buy into both to justify the added cost for everyone.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 28 March 2018, 20:34:08
I think you need to add the none standard kit to the mod kit. Truth be told at this point. 90% of people that even buy into this drop will most likely need the non standard kit. Perhaps bundling them will lower the overall price for those people. I honestly think 1.75u has become standard as far as layouts go. I would say a fair number of people also like the stepped caplock's key.
A quick check on SA Oblivion's page shows 500 TKL mods sold vs 200 non-standard. I'll need more proof that they need to be merged, because that will affect the price significantly for everyone.
kinda shocked by that but the numbers are the numbers. I figured at this point most people would be running a non standard layout. Perhaps 60% and TKL are far more popular then I thought. I guess there also the 40% crowd that be in that number also! I figured it might just save some money over having to buy both if most people buy both anyway. Only half do then there is no point. I would say you need least 75% of people to buy into both to justify the added cost for everyone.
the vast majority of people using keyboards are using some sort of TKL, like a filco, ducky, or leopold
it's easy to forget that people who use customs are the minority
Post by: HotRoderX on Thu, 29 March 2018, 02:03:10
I think you need to add the none standard kit to the mod kit. Truth be told at this point. 90% of people that even buy into this drop will most likely need the non standard kit. Perhaps bundling them will lower the overall price for those people. I honestly think 1.75u has become standard as far as layouts go. I would say a fair number of people also like the stepped caplock's key.
A quick check on SA Oblivion's page shows 500 TKL mods sold vs 200 non-standard. I'll need more proof that they need to be merged, because that will affect the price significantly for everyone.
kinda shocked by that but the numbers are the numbers. I figured at this point most people would be running a non standard layout. Perhaps 60% and TKL are far more popular then I thought. I guess there also the 40% crowd that be in that number also! I figured it might just save some money over having to buy both if most people buy both anyway. Only half do then there is no point. I would say you need least 75% of people to buy into both to justify the added cost for everyone.
the vast majority of people using keyboards are using some sort of TKL, like a filco, ducky, or leopold
it's easy to forget that people who use customs are the minority
very good point I see all these gb happening all the time. I kinda honestly as sad as it is forget about the normal users that are happy with there standard keyboard. Which I mean is totally ok use what you love screw what anyone says.
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 29 March 2018, 06:06:07
I think you need to add the none standard kit to the mod kit. Truth be told at this point. 90% of people that even buy into this drop will most likely need the non standard kit. Perhaps bundling them will lower the overall price for those people. I honestly think 1.75u has become standard as far as layouts go. I would say a fair number of people also like the stepped caplock's key.
A quick check on SA Oblivion's page shows 500 TKL mods sold vs 200 non-standard. I'll need more proof that they need to be merged, because that will affect the price significantly for everyone.
kinda shocked by that but the numbers are the numbers. I figured at this point most people would be running a non standard layout. Perhaps 60% and TKL are far more popular then I thought. I guess there also the 40% crowd that be in that number also! I figured it might just save some money over having to buy both if most people buy both anyway. Only half do then there is no point. I would say you need least 75% of people to buy into both to justify the added cost for everyone.
the vast majority of people using keyboards are using some sort of TKL, like a filco, ducky, or leopold
it's easy to forget that people who use customs are the minority
And even if they do, they don't always buy non-standard layouts.
Looks over to his 5 custom winkey TKL's
Post by: DillonHightower on Sat, 31 March 2018, 07:33:17
Post by: keebwarrior on Sat, 31 March 2018, 15:21:09
Asking because I want the blank ergodox set to match a pulse set with the r3 for the bottom row vs the r4 that we have for this set. Just my OCD kicking in.
Post by: Oblotzky on Sat, 31 March 2018, 19:33:48
If I wanted to buy some r3 1u blanks, what color code would I get for the green?
Asking because I want the blank ergodox set to match a pulse set with the r3 for the bottom row vs the r4 that we have for this set. Just my OCD kicking in.
VAT
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 31 March 2018, 21:54:31
If I wanted to buy some r3 1u blanks, what color code would I get for the green?
Asking because I want the blank ergodox set to match a pulse set with the r3 for the bottom row vs the r4 that we have for this set. Just my OCD kicking in.
VAT
Don't bother they are OOS :(
Post by: keebwarrior on Sun, 01 April 2018, 14:35:47
If I wanted to buy some r3 1u blanks, what color code would I get for the green?
Asking because I want the blank ergodox set to match a pulse set with the r3 for the bottom row vs the r4 that we have for this set. Just my OCD kicking in.
VAT
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind, hopefully they get in stock in the future.
Post by: Karni on Mon, 02 April 2018, 09:15:08
Post by: online on Mon, 02 April 2018, 13:26:50
Post by: beekey on Mon, 02 April 2018, 14:57:40
Any chance to add spacebar kit that supports split spacebar layout?
Latest kits contains split spacebars/keys. Should cover most split layouts.
Post by: online on Mon, 02 April 2018, 16:28:31
Ah... didn't look at the lastest update comment.Any chance to add spacebar kit that supports split spacebar layout?
Latest kits contains split spacebars/keys. Should cover most split layouts.
I wish 3u is included in the spacebars kit as there're some keyboards use signal/dual 3u space.
Post by: clik_clak on Mon, 02 April 2018, 17:13:49
Post by: Karni on Tue, 03 April 2018, 14:39:45
Post by: thesiscamper on Tue, 03 April 2018, 21:13:59
an enter key that is jokers gun with bang coming out on a white flag would be amazing imo
Tried that for round 1, it's too detailed for the tooling especially for the text on the flag.
Post by: MrFex on Wed, 04 April 2018, 15:30:59
Post by: Phenix on Fri, 06 April 2018, 19:50:55
the SA Commanda 88 R2 GB happened many months ago and it featured a CS:GO (=gaming) kit which I really liked because of its icons.
And I feel there is demand: compare it to the 1337 kit featured in DSA Overcast and Legacy by MiTO.
Would you want to it add as a kit?
Post by: IceDragon13 on Sat, 07 April 2018, 16:57:20
Post by: Phenix on Sun, 08 April 2018, 06:44:51
Post by: online on Sun, 08 April 2018, 08:34:24
Post by: thesiscamper on Sun, 08 April 2018, 20:54:27
Not sure if previously mentioned, but Day of the Tentacle novelties would definitely fit the Trouble Minds theme as well.
It has been mentioned before, also Buzz Lightyear and Devastator of the Decepticons I think. We're going to stick with the two main themes, at least for now.
If „gaming kit“ is out of the water some of us can make good use of a macrokey-kit...
CS:GO novelties doesn't really fit with the theme. By macrokeys do you mean like on Logitech boards? Won't the ErgoDox kit fit that? Or is it too much?
Please, add a 3u spacebar(key). Even as a separate kit. It's fine If it doesn't reach MOQ, but at least we have a chance.
I'll consider splitting spacebars and space keys.
Update:
Kits might change, the base might be just one TKL kit without separating alphas and mods. This is up to the vendor/s now, and I am just waiting on news myself.
Post by: DillonHightower on Mon, 09 April 2018, 01:46:53
So maybe by end of month this set will run?Not sure if previously mentioned, but Day of the Tentacle novelties would definitely fit the Trouble Minds theme as well.
It has been mentioned before, also Buzz Lightyear and Devastator of the Decepticons I think. We're going to stick with the two main themes, at least for now.If „gaming kit“ is out of the water some of us can make good use of a macrokey-kit...
CS:GO novelties doesn't really fit with the theme. By macrokeys do you mean like on Logitech boards? Won't the ErgoDox kit fit that? Or is it too much?Please, add a 3u spacebar(key). Even as a separate kit. It's fine If it doesn't reach MOQ, but at least we have a chance.
I'll consider splitting spacebars and space keys.
Update:
Kits might change, the base might be just one TKL kit without separating alphas and mods. This is up to the vendor/s now, and I am just waiting on news myself.
Post by: Wintervocal on Tue, 10 April 2018, 12:23:16
The recent Pulse drop got them (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/pulse-sa-keycap-set/talk/1994622?utm_source=linkshare&referer=VAMKBZ):
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/img_comment/RsQ7GExhSXGnYNRYga5g_IMG_0271.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=max&w=1300&h=1075&dpr=1&q=80)
Post by: jimirolln on Tue, 10 April 2018, 12:27:27
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 11 April 2018, 11:57:58
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Wed, 11 April 2018, 12:20:08
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Post by: iliketimex on Wed, 11 April 2018, 12:24:25
Post by: hhkbp2 on Wed, 11 April 2018, 12:44:50
2. Why there are 4 green R1 1.5u keycaps in the Ergodox kit? Only two of them in the same color are needed for one Ergodox layout.
Post by: clik_clak on Wed, 11 April 2018, 13:13:03
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 11 April 2018, 13:23:53
It really bothers me that the alphas don't even contain enough keys to complete an alpha set (ie. The F5-F8 keys aren't included). Users are being pigeonholed into buying a minimum of 3 kits just to fill a TKL, which doesn't seem right at all.
What kits are you looking at? The ones in OP are outdated, the store has the final ones. Although in either case you only need Alphas + Modifiers to fill a TKL, not sure how you're counting 3 kits?
Post by: iliketimex on Wed, 11 April 2018, 13:26:02
Post by: beekey on Wed, 11 April 2018, 13:27:03
Wondering how long it will run. Did I miss it somewhere?
Post by: clik_clak on Wed, 11 April 2018, 13:44:22
It really bothers me that the alphas don't even contain enough keys to complete an alpha set (ie. The F5-F8 keys aren't included). Users are being pigeonholed into buying a minimum of 3 kits just to fill a TKL, which doesn't seem right at all.
What kits are you looking at? The ones in OP are outdated, the store has the final ones. Although in either case you only need Alphas + Modifiers to fill a TKL, not sure how you're counting 3 kits?
You're right, only 2. That's my bad.
It still doesn't change the fact that an alpha's set doesn't even include enough keys to complete the alphas. Those F5-F8 keys being missed seems like a rather large oversight.
Post by: MrFex on Wed, 11 April 2018, 13:48:17
Quote
Your order is confirmed
We've accepted your order, and we're getting it ready. Come back to this page for updates on your order status.
;D
I'm getting Alphas + TKL + Numpad and Novelties. That should be more than enough more most fullsize/TKL/60% sets right? Or should I have gotten the purple modifiers as well?
I'm so stoked for this .. anyone know when they will be shipping out?
Post by: runsamok on Wed, 11 April 2018, 13:52:19
anyone know when they will be shipping out?
January 2019
Post by: derpingit on Wed, 11 April 2018, 14:00:11
Post by: a_ak57 on Wed, 11 April 2018, 14:16:14
Post by: jimirolln on Wed, 11 April 2018, 14:22:29
unrelated...gmk have ambitious ideas in the pipeline...so i hear from the mito visit...disclaimer...hearsay...regardless it would appear to be an ambitious year all around for the community
Post by: runsamok on Wed, 11 April 2018, 14:27:13
January 2019, I guess SP is just straight up lying about the 5-6 month lead time on their site then?
January is 8.5 months away. Add in the time for the group buy itself, processing/submitting the order & the logistics/shipping when the caps are shipped out by SP.
Seems entirely reasonable that the extra crud at either end could add up to a couple months on top of the SP lead time, especially once you factor in some time for hiccups along the way. Underpromise & overdeliver...
Post by: Oblotzky on Wed, 11 April 2018, 14:32:53
QuoteYour order is confirmed
We've accepted your order, and we're getting it ready. Come back to this page for updates on your order status.
;D
I'm getting Alphas + TKL + Numpad and Novelties. That should be more than enough more most fullsize/TKL/60% sets right? Or should I have gotten the purple modifiers as well?
I'm so stoked for this .. anyone know when they will be shipping out?
Those kits are enough to cover the layouts you listed. The purple mods would only allow you to have an all-purple keyboard, so it's optional.
It really bothers me that the alphas don't even contain enough keys to complete an alpha set (ie. The F5-F8 keys aren't included). Users are being pigeonholed into buying a minimum of 3 kits just to fill a TKL, which doesn't seem right at all.
What kits are you looking at? The ones in OP are outdated, the store has the final ones. Although in either case you only need Alphas + Modifiers to fill a TKL, not sure how you're counting 3 kits?
You're right, only 2. That's my bad.
It still doesn't change the fact that an alpha's set doesn't even include enough keys to complete the alphas. Those F5-F8 keys being missed seems like a rather large oversight.
It's quite common that those keys are not available in alpha color, usually sets have the sandwich style function row, or all modifier colored. Having the function row all alpha colored is only useful for 75% and 96key layouts.
Post by: breckstar on Wed, 11 April 2018, 15:30:52
Post by: Signature on Wed, 11 April 2018, 16:27:51
Post by: Gghi on Wed, 11 April 2018, 17:00:58
Post by: Tree_ on Wed, 11 April 2018, 17:31:55
so expansive :(
Yeah, I think I've been priced out of the dream set I wanted since starting with keyboards - $400AUD before shipping to fill a 75% and get novs is insane.
Honestly if I knew it was going to be this much for an R2 retail release, I probably could have had R1 long ago at resale for the same price. :-\
Post by: thesiscamper on Wed, 11 April 2018, 17:39:35
It really bothers me that the alphas don't even contain enough keys to complete an alpha set (ie. The F5-F8 keys aren't included). Users are being pigeonholed into buying a minimum of 3 kits just to fill a TKL, which doesn't seem right at all.
What kits are you looking at? The ones in OP are outdated, the store has the final ones. Although in either case you only need Alphas + Modifiers to fill a TKL, not sure how you're counting 3 kits?
You're right, only 2. That's my bad.
It still doesn't change the fact that an alpha's set doesn't even include enough keys to complete the alphas. Those F5-F8 keys being missed seems like a rather large oversight.
Hi. The alphas are just for alphas, and the f-keys were added to accommodate the all-green f-keys people wanted. Traditionally alphas won't include f-keys at all. So now you can get the alphas and the TKL mods and have both alternating f-key colors or the all-green one.
For the current price, this is what we face when trying to get as much compatibility as possible. We add one or two keys here or there and it all adds up sadly. Also, we're not very happy too with the pricing SP gave us, but it is what it is. We're looking into adding keys when tiers are tipped.
I feel like 1.75u shift should be standard in the TKL kits by now :( I don't want to pay $67 for that one key :(
The 1.75 shift is non-standard, so it went to the non-standard kit. If we add this key to the TKL mod then other people might start asking for stepped keys, 1u winkeys then 1.5u R4 mods to be added, and they will have an argument for it. The kits have been soft-locked for weeks too, and now the GB is live. We're preparing a GB thread.
edit:
This has been an exercise in mostly giving in to people's suggestions on keys included in kits, while also trying to trim it down as much as possible. We still added more keys than usual, so we'll just have to see how it goes. Don't say I didn't try. :)
Post by: DillonHightower on Wed, 11 April 2018, 21:24:33
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 11 April 2018, 21:50:52
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 12 April 2018, 01:20:47
Post by: RealLaugh on Thu, 12 April 2018, 01:24:24
Proxies?
kono.store for int
mykeyboard.eu for EU
zfrontier for China
was announded over Thesiscamper's insta
Mykeeb.eu has the cateogry for the set in their GB area, but it seems they're still busy making the product pages.
Post by: rioc on Thu, 12 April 2018, 03:53:48
Proxies?
kono.store for int
mykeyboard.eu for EU
zfrontier for China
was announded over Thesiscamper's insta
Mykeeb.eu has the cateogry for the set in their GB area, but it seems they're still busy making the product pages.
whoah... mykeyboard.eu, stop that rip-off price! € != $... check the kono store € prices pls... (I'm sure it's just a mistake) ;)
Post by: Peppermint216 on Thu, 12 April 2018, 04:04:35
Add 20% ish vat to any EU proxy, you will be paying that anyway if you buy from kono, at least with the proxy there is no delay in customs.Proxies?
kono.store for int
mykeyboard.eu for EU
zfrontier for China
was announded over Thesiscamper's insta
Mykeeb.eu has the cateogry for the set in their GB area, but it seems they're still busy making the product pages.
whoah... mykeyboard.eu, stop that rip-off price! € != $... check the kono store € prices pls... (I'm sure it's just a mistake) ;)
Post by: Phenix on Thu, 12 April 2018, 04:25:26
Why are all kits such expensive? Compared to SA Carbon for instance....
Post by: rioc on Thu, 12 April 2018, 04:35:24
Add 20% ish vat to any EU proxy, you will be paying that anyway if you buy from kono, at least with the proxy there is no delay in customs.Proxies?
kono.store for int
mykeyboard.eu for EU
zfrontier for China
was announded over Thesiscamper's insta
Mykeeb.eu has the cateogry for the set in their GB area, but it seems they're still busy making the product pages.
whoah... mykeyboard.eu, stop that rip-off price! € != $... check the kono store € prices pls... (I'm sure it's just a mistake) ;)
oh yeah right... I'll order from kono then... a little bit less import taxes for Switzerland (and also faster than getting it via belgium due to less tax return forms)
Post by: Oblotzky on Thu, 12 April 2018, 04:49:17
Add 20% ish vat to any EU proxy, you will be paying that anyway if you buy from kono, at least with the proxy there is no delay in customs.Proxies?
kono.store for int
mykeyboard.eu for EU
zfrontier for China
was announded over Thesiscamper's insta
Mykeeb.eu has the cateogry for the set in their GB area, but it seems they're still busy making the product pages.
whoah... mykeyboard.eu, stop that rip-off price! € != $... check the kono store € prices pls... (I'm sure it's just a mistake) ;)
oh yeah right... I'll order from kono then... a little bit less import taxes for Switzerland (and also faster than getting it via belgium due to less tax return forms)
Yeah for Swiss people it makes sense to buy from kono.store since either case is considered importing, so you'd be paying double VAT if purchased from mkb.eu. If I buy from mykeyboard.eu, I pay about 30eur more than if I bought from kono.store, but would most likely end up paying at least that anyways with import VAT and brokerage fees etc.
Post by: long_qt_pie on Thu, 12 April 2018, 07:52:21
i with another 66 bucks for the 1.75 shift the only thing I need from the extra kits.. makes this a automatic pass. I am sure it will most likely hit MOQ but at the same time sure its turning off a equal number of possible sales also. Just giving some feed back. I think the extra kit costing as much as the TKL kit is a bit obscene and just includes to much.
1.75 artisans need to be a hotter thing now! problem solved :P
Post by: Signature on Thu, 12 April 2018, 08:31:05
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