[IC] SA Troubled Minds Round 2

[Puddsy]

Some updates:

Added some novelties to purple mod kit:

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Did a spacebar kit, but I'm not sure if I should separate the spacebars from the space keys since MOQ will probably be a problem:

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spacebar kit looks fine

3u/3u split is gaining traction in some communities, does SP have SA 3u spacebar molds? i can't remember

[beekey]

Awesome, I think enough people can use the blanks to fill some custom layouts.
Thanks for adding this.

[Oblotzky]

Some updates:

Added some novelties to purple mod kit:

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Did a spacebar kit, but I'm not sure if I should separate the spacebars from the space keys since MOQ will probably be a problem:

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spacebar kit looks fine

3u/3u split is gaining traction in some communities, does SP have SA 3u spacebar molds? i can't remember

Yes, but concave not convex, so a Spacekey. Spacebars start at 4u.

[thesiscamper]

I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.

Soft-locked Kits:

Alphas/Base


TKL Mods


Numpad


Novelties


Non-standard:


40s


Purple Mods


ErgoDox Kit


COLEVRAK


NorDeUK


Spacebars and Space Keys

[Phenix]

had be auper nice (but no space, no?) to get a key "NO escape" (designed like the LOSE control keys.

any workaround to this?

[keebwarrior]

So, ergodox kit is most likely out?

[thesiscamper]

So, ergodox kit is most likely out?

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Nope, forgot to upload it.

[dsaf]

Soft-locked Kits:

Novelties

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Would it make sense to also have an Evangelion "E" key? I don't know what the font would be... Also could be orange on purple...

[thesiscamper]

Soft-locked Kits:

Novelties

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Would it make sense to also have an Evangelion "E" key? I don't know what the font would be... Also could be orange on purple...

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Sorry, but in my opinion there's already more than enough novelties for the set.

[beekey]

I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.

Soft-locked Kits:

Alphas/Base

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TKL Mods

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WOW, so nice. Will get this for sure!
Numpad

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Novelties

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Non-standard:

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40s/Ortholinear

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Purple Mods

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ErgoDox Kit

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COLEVRAK

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NorDeUK

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Spacebars and Space Keys

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[schmoktopus]

God thoes homing-novelties alone make me want to buy this set.

[Shados]

that has got to be the most detailed and helpful reply ever...ty...can you do a jtk and gmk comparison...i found jtk toxic and really want to put it in the collection but have been hesitant as i know knock offs can be kinda wonky sometimes

JTK is good on thickness and profile (Cherry), but have had various issues with legend inconsistencies and stem molds. They've fixed a lot of their issues, but I would wait at least until after JTK Aqua ships to buy into the next round of JTK Toxic -- they've got some more legend fixes slated for JTK Aqua.

[romeo]

that novelty kit is lit. Definitely in for a few kits.

[Gghi]

I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.

Soft-locked Kits:

Alphas/Base

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TKL Mods

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Numpad

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Novelties

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Non-standard:

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40s/Ortholinear

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Purple Mods

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ErgoDox Kit

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COLEVRAK

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NorDeUK

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Spacebars and Space Keys

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I think something's inappropriate in "Ortholinear" kit.
Since the Ortholinear stands for "planck", "atomic" and "preonic", it should at least have {r3 2u "return"} and  {r3 1u"caps lock"}
I think the "Planck/Atomic Kit" in round 1 is prefect. I realize that some other 40's may need extra keys, but i think keys like {2.25u r4 "shift"} {2.25u r3 "return"} never gonna help.
Tell me if i'm wrong.

[thesiscamper]

I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.

Soft-locked Kits:

Alphas/Base

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TKL Mods

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Numpad

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Novelties

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Non-standard:

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40s/Ortholinear

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Purple Mods

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ErgoDox Kit

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COLEVRAK

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NorDeUK

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Spacebars and Space Keys

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I think something's inappropriate in "Ortholinear" kit.
Since the Ortholinear stands for "planck", "atomic" and "preonic", it should at least have {r3 2u "return"} and  {r3 1u"caps lock"}
I think the "Planck/Atomic Kit" in round 1 is prefect. I realize that some other 40's may need extra keys, but i think keys like {2.25u r4 "shift"} {2.25u r3 "return"} never gonna help.
Tell me if i'm wrong.

The kit names are temporary, I'll just call it the 40s kit for now.

[Gghi]

I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.

Soft-locked Kits:

Alphas/Base

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TKL Mods

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Numpad

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Novelties

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Non-standard:

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40s/Ortholinear

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Purple Mods

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ErgoDox Kit

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COLEVRAK

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NorDeUK

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Spacebars and Space Keys

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I think something's inappropriate in "Ortholinear" kit.
Since the Ortholinear stands for "planck", "atomic" and "preonic", it should at least have {r3 2u "return"} and  {r3 1u"caps lock"}
I think the "Planck/Atomic Kit" in round 1 is prefect. I realize that some other 40's may need extra keys, but i think keys like {2.25u r4 "shift"} {2.25u r3 "return"} never gonna help.
Tell me if i'm wrong.

The kit names are temporary, I'll just call it the 40s kit for now.

Thanks!! Got it!!
Just can't wait see the final version and jump in.

[Saphieron]

I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.

Soft-locked Kits:

Alphas/Base

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TKL Mods

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Numpad

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Novelties

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Non-standard:

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40s

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Purple Mods

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ErgoDox Kit

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COLEVRAK

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NorDeUK

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Spacebars and Space Keys

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I am SO keen on getting this, especially the novelities. They are just the greatest!

[DillonHightower]

So any eta on GB start and length it will be open? Trying to warm up that pocket book to be ready for this..

[keebwarrior]

Hopefully the GB is open long enough to reach MOQ for all the sets

[HotRoderX]

Hopefully the GB is open long enough to reach MOQ for all the sets

honestly I would be shocked if this set didn't reach MOQ in the first week. Assuming its not something obscene like 500... most likely the moq will be 150-250... and I would even go as far as betting it will hit that in the first 24hr's of being live.

[elfick]

I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.

Soft-locked Kits:

2x 1u r4 blanks in 40s kit for planck grid layout?

[keebwarrior]

I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.

Soft-locked Kits:

2x 1u r4 blanks in 40s kit for planck grid layout?

I'm mostly worried about the ergodox kit. I know for sure PuLSE will reach MOQ, but I really want this set instead. If the ergodox kit doesn't reach the quota, then this set will be useless for me

[Gghi]

I thought about 3u space keys, but decided it's too niche.

Soft-locked Kits:

2x 1u r4 blanks in 40s kit for planck grid layout?

I'm mostly worried about the ergodox kit. I know for sure PuLSE will reach MOQ, but I really want this set instead. If the ergodox kit doesn't reach the quota, then this set will be useless for me

Don’t worry, he said there will be one, and
I think this one MOQ itself.... lol ...

[thesiscamper]

So any eta on GB start and length it will be open? Trying to warm up that pocket book to be ready for this..

It's soon without the ™

[elfick]

So any eta on GB start and length it will be open? Trying to warm up that pocket book to be ready for this..

It's soon without the ™

Wanted to make sure my question didn't get missed...
Will there be 1u blanks added to the 40s kit for Planck grid layout?

Thanks!

[notflipperdan420]

looking good, stuff is well spread out 

[thesiscamper]

So any eta on GB start and length it will be open? Trying to warm up that pocket book to be ready for this..

It's soon without the ™

Wanted to make sure my question didn't get missed...
Will there be 1u blanks added to the 40s kit for Planck grid layout?

Thanks!

The kits have been soft-locked and sent to SP for quotes. The only thing I can say at the moment is we have an option to lower prices or add keys when tiers are hit. 2 x 1u blank keys shouldn't be a problem, but I don't want to promise anything at the moment.

[HotRoderX]

I think you need to add the none standard kit to the mod kit. Truth be told at this point. 90% of people that even buy into this drop will most likely need the non standard kit. Perhaps bundling them will lower the overall price for those people. I honestly think 1.75u has become standard as far as layouts go. I would say a fair number of people also like the stepped caplock's key.

[thesiscamper]

I think you need to add the none standard kit to the mod kit. Truth be told at this point. 90% of people that even buy into this drop will most likely need the non standard kit. Perhaps bundling them will lower the overall price for those people. I honestly think 1.75u has become standard as far as layouts go. I would say a fair number of people also like the stepped caplock's key.

A quick check on SA Oblivion's page shows 500 TKL mods sold vs 200 non-standard. I'll need more proof that they need to be merged, because that will affect the price significantly for everyone.

[sevenseacat]

I'll jump in this just for the novelties!

[hoq]

Alphas+purple mods+Colevrak ！That’s what I want!


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[elfick]

Just curious, but would it make sense to put the spacebar from the non-standard kit into the spacebar kit?
It doesn't matter to me as I have no use for that spacebar but will probably end up with both the non-standard and spacebar kit.

[Darknight00z]

Can we get a poll of sculpt 112343 vs 112344? I personally prefer the 112343, as the bottom row curve lip is just not as comfy.

[ullr]

Can we get a poll of sculpt 112343 vs 112344? I personally prefer the 112343, as the bottom row curve lip is just not as comfy.

I think he wants it to be compatible with the first round so people can pick up missing kits

[thesiscamper]

Just curious, but would it make sense to put the spacebar from the non-standard kit into the spacebar kit?
It doesn't matter to me as I have no use for that spacebar but will probably end up with both the non-standard and spacebar kit.

Most people who use winkeyless will need that spacebar, and I don't think they will want to be forced to buy the spacebar kit. Also they'll be different colors.

Can we get a poll of sculpt 112343 vs 112344? I personally prefer the 112343, as the bottom row curve lip is just not as comfy.

This has been discussed in round 1 and I went with R4 for the bottom row. ullr is correct, I want this to be compatible with round 1.

[HotRoderX]

I think you need to add the none standard kit to the mod kit. Truth be told at this point. 90% of people that even buy into this drop will most likely need the non standard kit. Perhaps bundling them will lower the overall price for those people. I honestly think 1.75u has become standard as far as layouts go. I would say a fair number of people also like the stepped caplock's key.

A quick check on SA Oblivion's page shows 500 TKL mods sold vs 200 non-standard. I'll need more proof that they need to be merged, because that will affect the price significantly for everyone.

kinda shocked by that but the numbers are the numbers. I figured at this point most people would be running a non standard layout. Perhaps 60% and TKL are far more popular then I thought. I guess there also the 40% crowd that be in that number also! I figured it might just save some money over having to buy both if most people buy both anyway. Only half do then there is no point. I would say you need least 75% of people to buy into both to justify the added cost for everyone.

[Puddsy]

I think you need to add the none standard kit to the mod kit. Truth be told at this point. 90% of people that even buy into this drop will most likely need the non standard kit. Perhaps bundling them will lower the overall price for those people. I honestly think 1.75u has become standard as far as layouts go. I would say a fair number of people also like the stepped caplock's key.

A quick check on SA Oblivion's page shows 500 TKL mods sold vs 200 non-standard. I'll need more proof that they need to be merged, because that will affect the price significantly for everyone.

kinda shocked by that but the numbers are the numbers. I figured at this point most people would be running a non standard layout. Perhaps 60% and TKL are far more popular then I thought. I guess there also the 40% crowd that be in that number also! I figured it might just save some money over having to buy both if most people buy both anyway. Only half do then there is no point. I would say you need least 75% of people to buy into both to justify the added cost for everyone.

the vast majority of people using keyboards are using some sort of TKL, like a filco, ducky, or leopold

it's easy to forget that people who use customs are the minority

[HotRoderX]

I think you need to add the none standard kit to the mod kit. Truth be told at this point. 90% of people that even buy into this drop will most likely need the non standard kit. Perhaps bundling them will lower the overall price for those people. I honestly think 1.75u has become standard as far as layouts go. I would say a fair number of people also like the stepped caplock's key.

A quick check on SA Oblivion's page shows 500 TKL mods sold vs 200 non-standard. I'll need more proof that they need to be merged, because that will affect the price significantly for everyone.

kinda shocked by that but the numbers are the numbers. I figured at this point most people would be running a non standard layout. Perhaps 60% and TKL are far more popular then I thought. I guess there also the 40% crowd that be in that number also! I figured it might just save some money over having to buy both if most people buy both anyway. Only half do then there is no point. I would say you need least 75% of people to buy into both to justify the added cost for everyone.

the vast majority of people using keyboards are using some sort of TKL, like a filco, ducky, or leopold

it's easy to forget that people who use customs are the minority

very good point I see all these gb happening all the time. I kinda honestly as sad as it is forget about the normal users that are happy with there standard keyboard. Which I mean is totally ok use what you love screw what anyone says.

[Oblotzky]

I think you need to add the none standard kit to the mod kit. Truth be told at this point. 90% of people that even buy into this drop will most likely need the non standard kit. Perhaps bundling them will lower the overall price for those people. I honestly think 1.75u has become standard as far as layouts go. I would say a fair number of people also like the stepped caplock's key.

A quick check on SA Oblivion's page shows 500 TKL mods sold vs 200 non-standard. I'll need more proof that they need to be merged, because that will affect the price significantly for everyone.

kinda shocked by that but the numbers are the numbers. I figured at this point most people would be running a non standard layout. Perhaps 60% and TKL are far more popular then I thought. I guess there also the 40% crowd that be in that number also! I figured it might just save some money over having to buy both if most people buy both anyway. Only half do then there is no point. I would say you need least 75% of people to buy into both to justify the added cost for everyone.

the vast majority of people using keyboards are using some sort of TKL, like a filco, ducky, or leopold

it's easy to forget that people who use customs are the minority

And even if they do, they don't always buy non-standard layouts.

Looks over to his 5 custom winkey TKL's

[DillonHightower]

Any chance of adding in f5 f6 f7 f8 to purple mods so we can do full purp layout if that is desirable to any ? Edit. NM it is  there. Carry on 👌👌

[keebwarrior]

If I wanted to buy some r3 1u blanks, what color code would I get for the green?

Asking because I want the blank ergodox set to match a pulse set with the r3 for the bottom row vs the r4 that we have for this set. Just my OCD kicking in.

[Oblotzky]

If I wanted to buy some r3 1u blanks, what color code would I get for the green?

Asking because I want the blank ergodox set to match a pulse set with the r3 for the bottom row vs the r4 that we have for this set. Just my OCD kicking in.

VAT

[ihalatch]

If I wanted to buy some r3 1u blanks, what color code would I get for the green?

Asking because I want the blank ergodox set to match a pulse set with the r3 for the bottom row vs the r4 that we have for this set. Just my OCD kicking in.

VAT

Don't bother they are OOS

[keebwarrior]

If I wanted to buy some r3 1u blanks, what color code would I get for the green?

Asking because I want the blank ergodox set to match a pulse set with the r3 for the bottom row vs the r4 that we have for this set. Just my OCD kicking in.

VAT

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind, hopefully they get in stock in the future.

[Karni]

was really hoping for a novelty key with jokers playing card this time around or a bloody smile

[online]

Any chance to add spacebar kit that supports split spacebar layout?

[beekey]

Any chance to add spacebar kit that supports split spacebar layout?

Latest kits contains split spacebars/keys. Should cover most split layouts.

[online]

Any chance to add spacebar kit that supports split spacebar layout?

Latest kits contains split spacebars/keys. Should cover most split layouts.

Ah... didn't look at the lastest update comment.
I wish 3u is included in the spacebars kit as there're some keyboards use signal/dual 3u space.

[clik_clak]

I'm hoping the numpad can be separated from the modifiers. I need an extra numpad for the 1800x2, and only 1 set of modifiers.

[Karni]

an enter key that is jokers gun with bang coming out on a white flag would be amazing imo