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Which board is this in the renders? Looks dope AF
I'm interested. Consider including a windowed non-stepped Caps Lock key. :)
Is one of those shifts 2U?
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Nice, I'm in!Is one of those shifts 2U?
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Yep!
I'm interested. Consider including a windowed non-stepped Caps Lock key. :)
I'm interested. Consider including a windowed non-stepped Caps Lock key. :)
As per the discussion in discord, please consider an Esc and 7U space so the extension kit could act as a standalone accent kit for people using black on white.Monochrome
As per the discussion in discord, please consider an Esc and 7U space so the extension kit could act as a standalone accent kit for people using black on white.
I don't see the point of this kit without a bottom row.Personally not a fan of icon bottom rows, but second that this kit would make sense with more icons (escape, bottom row, r3 control) - though adding bottom row could add lots of keys and thus raise price.
I don't see the point of this kit without a bottom row.
Also +1 for a separate BoW kit with the same support.
Also wondering, do you know if BoW and WoB JTK colors match GMK colors? I’ve got JTK sets but I hate their mods, and this would be a great option- as long as the color matches of course
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Did someone want windowed caps? :O
YessirShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/PHP3qHP.jpg)
Did someone want windowed caps? :O
Yessir! I would love to have the option of both stepped and non-stepped windowed Caps, if it doesn't significantly change the price :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PHP3qHP.jpg)
Did someone want windowed caps? :O
Yessir! I would love to have the option of both stepped and non-stepped windowed Caps, if it doesn't significantly change the price :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PHP3qHP.jpg)
Did someone want windowed caps? :O
Any reason for going stepped?Yessir! I would love to have the option of both stepped and non-stepped windowed Caps, if it doesn't significantly change the price :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PHP3qHP.jpg)
Did someone want windowed caps? :O
Leaning towards stepped only as of right now, we will see! In any case, I think that it's a good addition to the kit.
Any reason for going stepped?Yessir! I would love to have the option of both stepped and non-stepped windowed Caps, if it doesn't significantly change the price :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PHP3qHP.jpg)
Did someone want windowed caps? :O
Leaning towards stepped only as of right now, we will see! In any case, I think that it's a good addition to the kit.
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What icon would be used for esc key ?
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Current agenda:
- Look into adding an Esc key to both kits
- Separate spacebar kit for allowing use with common OG sets/use as accents, mainly 6.25 and 7u of each color, 4 spacebars total - Not much use to run other spacebars due to GMK Spacekeys
What do you think about these suggestions?
A square Esc icon, like the one used in GMK WoB Hiragana or the HuB profile caps, looks a bit better than GMK's standard, circular one in my opinion.
I will have to agree, we will stick to standard text Esc should it be added to the kits. :/Standard Esc + spacebar kit are bae hihi
That's an external link icon, lol. That and the MoDo escape icon are hideous.ur hideous
That's basically my mindset too - I'd never use them personally, but I think it just makes sense to include them in this.That's an external link icon, lol. That and the MoDo escape icon are hideous.ur hideous
But no, jokes aside, I get what you guys mean. I still have to advocate for the inclusion of bottom row icon mods, though, since imo it makes a lot of sense in the context of an icon extension kit like this.
That's an external link icon, lol. That and the MoDo escape icon are hideous.ur hideous
But no, jokes aside, I get what you guys mean. I still have to advocate for the inclusion of bottom row icon mods, though, since imo it makes a lot of sense in the context of an icon extension kit like this.
That's basically my mindset too - I'd never use them personally, but I think it just makes sense to include them in this.That's an external link icon, lol. That and the MoDo escape icon are hideous.ur hideous
But no, jokes aside, I get what you guys mean. I still have to advocate for the inclusion of bottom row icon mods, though, since imo it makes a lot of sense in the context of an icon extension kit like this.
I hear you, but you need to go back and ask yourself what the purpose and goals are for these kits. It becomes very easy to stray from the initial goals because one could add keys endlessly that "make sense". It's not that I am not susceptible to feedback, it is me realizing that I need to prioritize feedback that I believe will benefit the initial goals of the kit. I've thought long and hard about a bottom row, but I really don't see the key increase as a worthwhile addition (that goes for both icon bottom row as well as text bottom row).
The main feedback I am looking at now is Otanis one for adding Esc keys to both kits, but also looking into a separate spacebar kit. Personally I do not see the reason for a spacebar kit as a standalone, but I do see and understand the argument for an Esc. I would love to hear some input on these two specific topics! :)
Also, it will be interesting to see the quotes for the WoB/BoW kits separately but also together, it's not a terrifying amount of keys and should be fine even combined... We will find out soon. :D
That's basically my mindset too - I'd never use them personally, but I think it just makes sense to include them in this.That's an external link icon, lol. That and the MoDo escape icon are hideous.ur hideous
But no, jokes aside, I get what you guys mean. I still have to advocate for the inclusion of bottom row icon mods, though, since imo it makes a lot of sense in the context of an icon extension kit like this.
I hear you, but you need to go back and ask yourself what the purpose and goals are for these kits. It becomes very easy to stray from the initial goals because one could add keys endlessly that "make sense". It's not that I am not susceptible to feedback, it is me realizing that I need to prioritize feedback that I believe will benefit the initial goals of the kit. I've thought long and hard about a bottom row, but I really don't see the key increase as a worthwhile addition (that goes for both icon bottom row as well as text bottom row).
The main feedback I am looking at now is Otanis one for adding Esc keys to both kits, but also looking into a separate spacebar kit. Personally I do not see the reason for a spacebar kit as a standalone, but I do see and understand the argument for an Esc. I would love to hear some input on these two specific topics! :)
Also, it will be interesting to see the quotes for the WoB/BoW kits separately but also together, it's not a terrifying amount of keys and should be fine even combined... We will find out soon. :D
That's basically my mindset too - I'd never use them personally, but I think it just makes sense to include them in this.That's an external link icon, lol. That and the MoDo escape icon are hideous.ur hideous
But no, jokes aside, I get what you guys mean. I still have to advocate for the inclusion of bottom row icon mods, though, since imo it makes a lot of sense in the context of an icon extension kit like this.
I hear you, but you need to go back and ask yourself what the purpose and goals are for these kits. It becomes very easy to stray from the initial goals because one could add keys endlessly that "make sense". It's not that I am not susceptible to feedback, it is me realizing that I need to prioritize feedback that I believe will benefit the initial goals of the kit. I've thought long and hard about a bottom row, but I really don't see the key increase as a worthwhile addition (that goes for both icon bottom row as well as text bottom row).
The main feedback I am looking at now is Otanis one for adding Esc keys to both kits, but also looking into a separate spacebar kit. Personally I do not see the reason for a spacebar kit as a standalone, but I do see and understand the argument for an Esc. I would love to hear some input on these two specific topics! :)
Also, it will be interesting to see the quotes for the WoB/BoW kits separately but also together, it's not a terrifying amount of keys and should be fine even combined... We will find out soon. :D
A couple of thoughts:
I believe that the kits are fine as-is, but if people are buying these kits to have accents it makes sense to have escape included. Text over icon preferably.
Spacebar kit as proposed (6.25u and 7u) is less useful than adding an escape key since these sizes are already included in most GMK sets, and these keycaps would really only be useful as accents. I suggest adding 6u spacebars, as recent WoB/BoW kits either don't include them (e.g. GMK Minimal) or they're shoved into an extension kit that few people bought (e.g. GMK Metaverse).
I don't mind adding 6u spacebars, the grand total would only be 6 spacebars
Is BoW and Minimal the same white?BoW is just a generic term; there isn't one specific set called GMK BoW. That being said, yeah, both this BoW extension kit and Minimal use WS1.
WoB is now available through drop.com again! Perfect opportunity to grab a set while waiting for this GB! :)
In the meantime, we are working on yet another BEAUTIFUL update. More on that very sooooon...
WoB + BoW accents TGR Alice by YuktsiI'm for combining kitsShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ovK5atB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bqEj5gC.jpg)
Yes, yes, legends on right half bottom row, I know
Proposed combined kit (esc added):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iuKPByt.jpg)
I am in if WoB is available as a stand alone kit.
I am in if WoB is available as a stand alone kit.
With so few keys, a combined kit might still fetch a good price.
We are about to request some quotes, after that I will have a better base to make a decision from. If it becomes too expensive, it'll likely be kept separate - but I am hoping for a good pricing for the combined kit. We will see, I will let you all know! :)
We are about to request some quotes, after that I will have a better base to make a decision from. If it becomes too expensive, it'll likely be kept separate - but I am hoping for a good pricing for the combined kit. We will see, I will let you all know! :)
We are about to request some quotes, after that I will have a better base to make a decision from. If it becomes too expensive, it'll likely be kept separate - but I am hoping for a good pricing for the combined kit. We will see, I will let you all know! :)
If you don't mind, ask how much of a price difference adding a non-stepped windowed Caps Lock would make ;)
Curious what BoW sets these will match? Pristine?Minimal
Including the bottom row in the set with icons might boost the sale so much since it can be purchased to match so many sets even tho you dont have BOW / WOB
WoB + BoW accents TGR Alice by YuktsiShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ovK5atB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BmKeLkO.jpg)
Proposed combined kit (esc added):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iuKPByt.jpg)
this is interesting. but, what is the actual color of the white base of the BoW caps?
reallly hoping its CP white to use with stormtrooper
WoB + BoW accents TGR Alice by YuktsiShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/ovK5atB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BmKeLkO.jpg)
Proposed combined kit (esc added):Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/iuKPByt.jpg)
These renders are beautiful! Excited to see what the combined kit pricing will look like.
this is interesting. but, what is the actual color of the white base of the BoW caps?
reallly hoping its CP white to use with stormtrooper
Heyo! Sorry to say, I went with WS1 which I believe is the most popular BoW currently, with over 1000 kits in circulation. I believe the modern white right now is ws1, so I catered to that. Sorry!
I’m definitely in for a WoB set but have no interest in BoW, so I hope they don’t end up combined
this is interesting. but, what is the actual color of the white base of the BoW caps?
reallly hoping its CP white to use with stormtrooper
Heyo! Sorry to say, I went with WS1 which I believe is the most popular BoW currently, with over 1000 kits in circulation. I believe the modern white right now is ws1, so I catered to that. Sorry!I’m definitely in for a WoB set but have no interest in BoW, so I hope they don’t end up combined
I understand the color decision, but since i would not be able to use the BoW caps, i also would not want to buy a combined kit. hoping there will be an option where they are separate
this is interesting. but, what is the actual color of the white base of the BoW caps?
reallly hoping its CP white to use with stormtrooper
Heyo! Sorry to say, I went with WS1 which I believe is the most popular BoW currently, with over 1000 kits in circulation. I believe the modern white right now is ws1, so I catered to that. Sorry!I’m definitely in for a WoB set but have no interest in BoW, so I hope they don’t end up combined
I understand the color decision, but since i would not be able to use the BoW caps, i also would not want to buy a combined kit. hoping there will be an option where they are separate
Yeah, I see what you mean. If the price point of combining the kits is good enough where I believe people who only want one kit will think that it's still worth it, I will combine them. It all depends on the quotes that we get back.
this is interesting. but, what is the actual color of the white base of the BoW caps?
reallly hoping its CP white to use with stormtrooper
Heyo! Sorry to say, I went with WS1 which I believe is the most popular BoW currently, with over 1000 kits in circulation. I believe the modern white right now is ws1, so I catered to that. Sorry!I’m definitely in for a WoB set but have no interest in BoW, so I hope they don’t end up combined
I understand the color decision, but since i would not be able to use the BoW caps, i also would not want to buy a combined kit. hoping there will be an option where they are separate
Yeah, I see what you mean. If the price point of combining the kits is good enough where I believe people who only want one kit will think that it's still worth it, I will combine them. It all depends on the quotes that we get back.
seems like you could offer both options - combined kit for reduced cost, and each kit individually. both types of buyers would contribute to moq and price drops, it would just be something for the vendor to track
not like adding a child kit that might not make it unless you combine with a base kit.
Main reason I'm against combined is I didn't get GMK Minimal for the reason of text only mods and I'd have to get it otherwise.
I own GMK Barebones Stormtrooper and that doesn't use WS1 for the white so I wouldn't want to get the white ones in a combined kit as they wouldn't be useful.
Hi Everyone, small update:
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I expect quotes from GMK this week, after that it will take a few days to sync pricing before I can reveal it here.
As for offering both combined and split, sorry - I don't think that's a good idea. :/ I will gather my thoughts and feedback after I know the pricing as the initial plan was. I won't offer the combined kit if the pricing isn't good enough where I believe people who only want one will be happy to pay for the combined.
Hmm, a bit of a dilemma here...Thanks for the update Mr. Emir. WoB Hiragana is a 60% (niche) Hiragana (niche) set. Its a very niche within niche set! WoB extension kit is supposed to go with and support the full WoB set. Very different market and different target audience. Pricing for combined kit is very attractive, and I don't see a reason to split into separate kit. I think a combined kit is a right move. Very nice!
WoB Hiragana with icon mods is set to run concurrently with this, and being a 60% basekit, it will compete with this pretty heavily and have attractive pricing (guessing here).
The pricing for EU and US for combined kit is the following:
US - 54.99USD
EU: 56 Euro
IMO the combined kit pricing is good enough where it's worth getting even if only interested in one, for the accent possibilities. It saved quite a bit compared to splitting.
What do you think guys? Should I delay, should we go through with it as it targets different markets?
Let me know, this is about all of us that are interested, I like to be as transparent as I can.
Even though too late to change anything, but I would like to point out a few things because I was very interested in this IC.
1. Combined kit: not buying something that 50% of the kit is useless right off the bat
2. No bottom row: really pushing buyer's flexibility here, one of the best things about gmk is mix-n-match, but you cant do that with this even though this is an "extension" in a sense.
3. Esc key: this is another head scratching decision. Esc slot is notorious for artisan key so it's not a game changing addition. Secondly this contradicts your original intention of "extension kit" whereas you want buyers to use this in conjunction with other readily available set: you introduce a not so frequently use duplicate.
Between point 1 to 2 to 3, my chance of seeing this kit as anything useful cuts down to about 20-30%. It is an extension that doesnt really extend the flexibility of cap choice, color mixing, or extra key usage. I barely browse GH these days so my apology for the late critique, didnt really change anything. I wish you a successful gb so we can get maybe round 2 or round 3 of a true extension kit in the near future.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gXqzt0O.jpg)
Even though too late to change anything, but I would like to point out a few things because I was very interested in this IC.
1. Combined kit: not buying something that 50% of the kit is useless right off the bat
2. No bottom row: really pushing buyer's flexibility here, one of the best things about gmk is mix-n-match, but you cant do that with this even though this is an "extension" in a sense.
3. Esc key: this is another head scratching decision. Esc slot is notorious for artisan key so it's not a game changing addition. Secondly this contradicts your original intention of "extension kit" whereas you want buyers to use this in conjunction with other readily available set: you introduce a not so frequently use duplicate.
Between point 1 to 2 to 3, my chance of seeing this kit as anything useful cuts down to about 20-30%. It is an extension that doesnt really extend the flexibility of cap choice, color mixing, or extra key usage. I barely browse GH these days so my apology for the late critique, didnt really change anything. I wish you a successful gb so we can get maybe round 2 or round 3 of a true extension kit in the near future.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gXqzt0O.jpg)
my chance of seeing this kit as anything useful cuts down to about 20-30%.
This will go into GB the 22nd! That is this coming Monday, and will run until 31st of August.
How long is this kit running for?
Great, thanks; I'll definitely be picking this up then
Even though too late to change anything, but I would like to point out a few things because I was very interested in this IC.
1. Combined kit: not buying something that 50% of the kit is useless right off the bat
2. No bottom row: really pushing buyer's flexibility here, one of the best things about gmk is mix-n-match, but you cant do that with this even though this is an "extension" in a sense.
3. Esc key: this is another head scratching decision. Esc slot is notorious for artisan key so it's not a game changing addition. Secondly this contradicts your original intention of "extension kit" whereas you want buyers to use this in conjunction with other readily available set: you introduce a not so frequently use duplicate.
Between point 1 to 2 to 3, my chance of seeing this kit as anything useful cuts down to about 20-30%. It is an extension that doesnt really extend the flexibility of cap choice, color mixing, or extra key usage. I barely browse GH these days so my apology for the late critique, didnt really change anything. I wish you a successful gb so we can get maybe round 2 or round 3 of a true extension kit in the near future.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gXqzt0O.jpg)
Even though too late to change anything, but I would like to point out a few things because I was very interested in this IC.
1. Combined kit: not buying something that 50% of the kit is useless right off the bat
2. No bottom row: really pushing buyer's flexibility here, one of the best things about gmk is mix-n-match, but you cant do that with this even though this is an "extension" in a sense.
3. Esc key: this is another head scratching decision. Esc slot is notorious for artisan key so it's not a game changing addition. Secondly this contradicts your original intention of "extension kit" whereas you want buyers to use this in conjunction with other readily available set: you introduce a not so frequently use duplicate.
Between point 1 to 2 to 3, my chance of seeing this kit as anything useful cuts down to about 20-30%. It is an extension that doesnt really extend the flexibility of cap choice, color mixing, or extra key usage. I barely browse GH these days so my apology for the late critique, didnt really change anything. I wish you a successful gb so we can get maybe round 2 or round 3 of a true extension kit in the near future.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gXqzt0O.jpg)
+1 on everything
I was initially very hyped for this. The points above, however, have limited my interest considerably; particularly combining both colourways into a single kit.
Will you add the two non-stepped windowed Caps Lock keys if this hits a higher number of units sold (e.g. 250)? :D
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Oh, I assumed it was 100 due to the stock colors used. Alright, that sounds good, though I think 500 sold is unlikely as well.
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Would be in if the sets were separated.