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Offline gianvanrooyen

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[IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 06:53:40 »
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Holmen

The Holmen is a minimal 65% gasket mount keyboard made with productivity in mind.


Features Overview

• Typing Angle: 7 Degrees.
• Case Material: Aluminum Top and Bottom.
• Plate Materials: Aluminum, Brass, Carbon Fiber.
• Mounting: Gasket Mount.
• Front height ~20mm.
• Miscellaneous: Rotary Encoder, 3 Macro Keys, Removable Internal Weight.
• Colors: Black, Grey, White, Deep Blue(Navy Blue), Plum.



Supported Layouts

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Renders

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Exploded View

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IC Form

• https://forms.gle/ZnrNQkPfumHYf9u88 (Original IC Form Now Closed)
• https://forms.gle/CWNHxLzYrSbaX2om6


Discord

• https://discord.gg/KwDYj3h


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Updates

• 9/25/2020: Created a Discord Server for Questions/ Suggestions and Updates.
• 9/28/2020: - Updated Post with New IC Form for Final Layout.

« Last Edit: Mon, 28 September 2020, 06:58:13 by gianvanrooyen »

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 06:55:14 »
The top right blocker seems out of place here. If you plan on keeping it, I suggest adding a logo.

Offline dandruff

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 07:23:33 »
Yea I agree. I dig the concept but seems like you were adding blockers just to add blockers. I may be in though!

Offline raz0r54

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 07:32:14 »
are the winkey and the top right key definitely out of your plans?

Offline krixjin

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 07:44:37 »
knob lookin' lil too big otherwise i love it

Offline Paragon

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 07:55:12 »
I think this is a nice looking board, I want to reiterate and say that I think a logo on the corner blocker would look great, if not remove the blocker. The other thing is it would be nice if it came in different top options as I am not a fan of WKL builds.

Offline Zanhana

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 09:04:58 »
I'd be interested if 1) there were a WK version and 2) the top-right blocker were removed. Don't especially mind the oversized rotary but right now it's approaching Pinnacle 65 blocker levels

Offline Oddstag

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 09:19:49 »
I think you've got a strong design coming up here. I agree that on this particular board you might have a few too many statements happening. The big rotary encoder works for me, but the top right blocker needs to go in my opinion, even a logo wouldn't look right. I would also given heavy consideration to returning the winkey and some consideration to removing the arrow blocker.

In short, I think it would look more balanced with the rotary encoder with no blockers, but there is a priority level to which blockers I would lose (starting with the top right and ending with the arrow blocker).

Just my opinion obviously which is going to be biased with my personal tastes. GLWIC!

Offline Blastoise

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 10:04:50 »
Love this board.  I can’t wait to see how this turns out!

Offline ivu

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 10:26:34 »
Looks good. Are you going to use vendors for different regions? Do you have any discord server dedicated for the board and do you have any previous experience with producing boards?

Some suggestions:
- Add WK, too many blockers atm and majority of the ppl actually use WK.
- Add some badge logo on the top right corner.
- Optional hotswap option with split bs. This is personal thing - it is always good to have one PCB with option to experiment with switches without having to constantly solder/desolder.

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Offline slyr586

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 10:33:38 »
I LOVE this board. I do agree that the top right blocker should have some sort of design/logo but other than that....this looks absolutely phenomenal.

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 10:50:55 »
In.

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Offline anticlockwise5

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 10:51:43 »
I love the overall design, though I'd prefer if the knob is a littler shorter, maybe at a similar height as keycaps, right now it's sticking out too much.

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Offline Clay333

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 11:27:32 »
I agree with everyone else. The top right blocker is out of place and strange. I personally usually like the look of a corner blocker with a logo, but honestly even that wouldn't really fit the design of the board in my opinion. I would simply get rid of the blocker completely and put a switch in its place. I also agree that the knob is a little large. If it was my design to change I would use a smaller knob and shrink the space between the macro keys and alphas as well as shrink the side bezels. The macro keys look a little off to me in the current form,they look like they were deigned to fit on a board with an exploded arrow cluster.

Overall the design looks great. Just needs a few tweaks to get it perfect. Good luck with the group buy.

Offline gianvanrooyen

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 11:55:40 »
Thanks for all of the feedback thus far, it has really been helpful.

• Based on the feedback I will be removing the Top Right Blocker and I'll be adding back the windows key.
• I'll additionally be reworking the knob to be a bit smaller and more to the dimensions described by you guys.

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 12:05:08 »
It would be really nice to add a logo/ accent piece piece to the top right corner instead of another switch.

I do really like the design and looking for what changes you decide on.

Offline gianvanrooyen

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 12:07:23 »
Looks good. Are you going to use vendors for different regions? Do you have any discord server dedicated for the board and do you have any previous experience with producing boards?

Some suggestions:
- Add WK, too many blockers atm and majority of the ppl actually use WK.
- Add some badge logo on the top right corner.
- Optional hotswap option with split bs. This is personal thing - it is always good to have one PCB with option to experiment with switches without having to constantly solder/desolder.

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I have not gotten as far as vendors yet as I wanted to finalize the design and get some feedback first. I'll make a discord in the coming days as it seems like people have a lot of questions so keep an eye out for an update about that :D No I have no experience in producing them at all this will be my first board.

Offline ivu

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 12:09:12 »
Please reconsider adding a badge instead of a key on top right. Definitely feels more premium than to just a key there. The other two changes - thumbs up!

Edit: Thanks for the reply on my previous questions ;)

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« Last Edit: Fri, 25 September 2020, 12:21:09 by ivu »

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 12:27:12 »
Glad you're considering removing the top right blocker and WK, I also find the bottom row kind of strange, I love that there's a split spacebar option but none of the options are standard? I'd like the classic 1.25/1.25/1.25/[some 6.25 spacebar (split or non-split)]/1.25/1.25/blocker/arrows or another popular layout as an option. Aside from that I the sizing / rotary placement / everything else, looking forward to seeing how this turns out!
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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 14:18:34 »
Really nice concept! IMHO:
– Placement of the "rotary encoder" is perfect (LEFT!), however, it feels a bit too tall.
– Would love to see more split layout (especially on the right):




Congrats and good luck with all the hustle!  ;D
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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 14:53:08 »
Agree with the general sentiment that it needs a WK version and remove the top right blocker. If that was an option a would defs be interested as I love the left column and rotary encoder!

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Offline Vaudevi77ain

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 15:23:08 »
Will absolutely cop if winkey makes it in. Exciting concept, been waiting for a nice 65% with a rotary encoder.

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 15:27:50 »
Please reconsider adding a badge instead of a key on top right. Definitely feels more premium than to just a key there. The other two changes - thumbs up!

Edit: Thanks for the reply on my previous questions ;)

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since when does a useless badge instead of a key make a keyboard more premium  :confused:

Offline deedz

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 16:06:45 »
Thanks for all of the feedback thus far, it has really been helpful.

• Based on the feedback I will be removing the Top Right Blocker and I'll be adding back the windows key.
• I'll additionally be reworking the knob to be a bit smaller and more to the dimensions described by you guys.

I’d say keep the WKL! Agree about making the knob a bit smaller. Your original design without the corner blocker and a smaller knob is perfect

Offline ivu

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 16:24:05 »
Please reconsider adding a badge instead of a key on top right. Definitely feels more premium than to just a key there. The other two changes - thumbs up!

Edit: Thanks for the reply on my previous questions ;)

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since when does a useless badge instead of a key make a keyboard more premium  :confused:

Everybody is entitled to their opinion ;) I respect yours  :thumb:, but for me, currently owning a board with a badge up there, it just looks better based on my personal taste.

Offline vurtomatic

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 25 September 2020, 20:17:26 »

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This makes the left and right sides look nicely balanced.

Offline tonetizzley

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[IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 05:26:42 »
Great concept - I’d be all over this if it was WK. 


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Offline The.Ryan.Gamer

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 09:57:44 »
Really nice concept! IMHO:
– Placement of the "rotary encoder" is perfect (LEFT!), however, it feels a bit too tall.
– Would love to see more split layout (especially on the right):

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Congrats and good luck with all the hustle!  ;D

Agree with this pic! This is what i think should happen.

Any idea for price range? Also would this be another FCFS - Raffle thingy?

Offline mytommy

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 12:28:43 »
4 right side buttons instead of 3. Is that possible?

Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #29 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 14:51:04 »

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This makes the left and right sides look nicely balanced.
Agree! If there was a WK version this site be perfect for me.

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Offline Vaudevi77ain

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #30 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 16:07:32 »
Submitted my IC survey, but I just thought of a few extra things that I'll just put here:

What I like:
  • Minimalist, classy design - very functional without any gaudy branding
  • Rotary encoder placement on the left (can use mouse hand to click things while using the other on the encoder)
  • Macro keys under the encoder very helpful to squeeze in more functionality from the design
  • Gasket mount

Things to possibly change/reconsider:
  • Please put winkey in! I use it all the time
  • Top right blocker seems like a waste of space; would like to see a switch there, or some type of badge/icon that feels nicely branded, but neutral (nothing too loud or themed)

Nice-to-haves:
  • Hotswap
  • Rose gold case option
  • Customizable bottom color options
  • Different rotary encoder knob color options
  • Cough, RGB
« Last Edit: Sun, 27 September 2020, 14:05:30 by Vaudevi77ain »

Offline vurtomatic

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 16:47:19 »

What I like:
  • Rotary encoder placement on the left (can use mouse hand to click things while using the other on the encoder)


Exactly, never understood knobs on the right.[/list]

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 27 September 2020, 10:42:46 »
I would personally suggest having the option of choosing WK or WKL, I personally love the look of the WKL here.. specially given that it separates the arrow cluster.

Agree with the majority here on the top right corner though, something needs to fill that space.. it's kind of jarring.

Offline Winster

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 27 September 2020, 11:00:43 »
I am all in for this design no matter how it turns up.

Would however suggest the below,
Offer WKL and explore with 1.25U keys and 6.25 space similar to the Tiamo V2 TKL.
Push the arrows cluster slightly to the right so there is a some separation around them.
Top right blocker would be terrific.

Offline microCuts

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 27 September 2020, 11:27:03 »
I prefer top right empty blocker.

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 27 September 2020, 11:50:58 »
Top right button instead of logo. Please. Why would people want a logo instead of something more useful; an extra button 

Offline gianvanrooyen

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 28 September 2020, 04:14:39 »
Really nice concept! IMHO:
– Placement of the "rotary encoder" is perfect (LEFT!), however, it feels a bit too tall.
– Would love to see more split layout (especially on the right):

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Congrats and good luck with all the hustle!  ;D

Thanks for the suggestion will be trying it out for sure  :)

Offline JvMil

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 28 September 2020, 19:19:03 »
Definitely keeping an eye on this one. Ticks all my boxes. Nice minimalist design in a 65% layout with a rotary encoder  :eek:
I do like the WKL layout and I like the top right blocker, with or without badge, but it at least needs a logo to give it some extra identity.

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 28 September 2020, 20:05:26 »
I can't wait to break my knuckles on that ridiculously oversized knob every time I reach for anything to my left.

Offline Vaudevi77ain

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #39 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 18:28:13 »
Any updates?

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #40 on: Wed, 28 October 2020, 20:18:23 »
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Offline Raptor_N60

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 13:17:29 »
Really nice concept! IMHO:
– Placement of the "rotary encoder" is perfect (LEFT!), however, it feels a bit too tall.
– Would love to see more split layout (especially on the right):

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Congrats and good luck with all the hustle!  ;D

This, although 0.75 blockers for WKL would be ideal

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 14:04:53 »
Invisible logo blocker :eek:

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 16:45:57 »
Just my opinion, but the uneven bottom row blockers rub me the wrong way.

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 17:40:05 »
Knob good
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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 18:39:43 »
interesting side to back seam profile...

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 21:40:51 »
Looks interesting - I look forward to a typing test (please go with someone like Minterly who uses multiple keycap profiles, it's super helpful)

Offline gianvanrooyen

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 03:58:22 »
Any updates?

I'm currently in the process of applying the changes based off of the feedback gathered. I will update the thread with the updated version soon :)

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 30 October 2020, 14:22:32 »
Now you have got my attention. 65%, Arrows, rotary.. nice!! Maybe a OLED in the top right blocker would be fitting

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Re: [IC] Holmen 65% Gasket Mount Keyboard with Rotary Encoder
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 01 November 2020, 16:26:05 »
Adding a key in the top right would look solid.
The double wkl looks good, is it possible to get them the same size?

Rotary and extra column is a great idea.