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Title: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:20:57
GMK Vaporwave R2


"Vaporwave is an MX-style keycap set inspired by glitchy aesthetics and holographic anime propaganda."

Vaporwave is back for a second round. Estimated for Q4 2021.



Take part in the survey here: https://forms.gle/M6EGFnKUCjiMwcHj9

* Geekhack account not required for survey

Survey Topics
- Round two color adjustments
- Kitting
- Novelties
- Round one set feedback


Parts of survey are optional. You don't need to be an expert. Explanations, context and references are available in the survey.
Everyone is welcome to take part.
 
Round two is set to feature a few minor adjustments that are meant to "min max" the design.

But I'd like to get everyone's opinions and suggestions before setting anything in stone.

 



 

More renders will be added as kits are finalized (i.e. boards featuring hiragana or novelties)

 

Vendors:

Novelkeys (NA)

Additional proxies TBD

 

Kits:

Base (Yet to be finalized)

Hiragana (Coming Soon)

Novelties (Coming Soon)

Extensions, Expansions & Support Kits TBD



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* Renders are not indicative of the final design. Final renders will be posted after community feedback.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: frostykoala on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:24:24
b and f13 avail ; )
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: BapoDonu on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:24:51
Nice, will there be a hiragana kit this time as well ?
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Kinesiologist on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:32:05
F13
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: joshuarubin on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:43:54
I want novelties that will match my R1 kit. Love the r1 colors, really don’t think they should be changed.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Fredington on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:44:25
I know R1 colors might have been a little hard to read for some people but I feel like that added to its charm, as well as the overall vaporwave/glitchy theme.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Fooblitzky on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:54:34
This set would look better with lighter/less saturation alpha base color, not the other way around with darker legends.
I like the hot neon pink legends, but alpha base is too dark a color.
The mods are fine as is.

A lighter alpha 'fix' set would be nice.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: eniigma on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:55:56
Would also prefer old colors.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:57:54
Nice, will there be a hiragana kit this time as well ?

Yes definitely.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Nuap on Tue, 06 April 2021, 22:08:49
Nice coverage is base kit, I am sure the price will still be reasonable with a high MOQ.

I submitted the form but I will add it here - I hope this set runs in the original colours.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Tue, 06 April 2021, 22:54:13
If you offer a different color for R2, can you run back the Rama X? Since PnC 2 has different colors than 1 Rama is gonna run the leaf n peach caps again.

(Vaporwave X one of my favorite caps)
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: L4ll1g470r on Tue, 06 April 2021, 23:07:02
Please, God, Norde for this one.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Surostu on Tue, 06 April 2021, 23:23:44
I look forward to picking up this set, i prefer the new colours, can actually read it which is what stopped me last time.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: lakeboredom on Tue, 06 April 2021, 23:28:47
I've been searching for alternate mods to mix with the set since R1, so I understand the desire for change there. Where the alphas are concerned, I think they are the most vibrant alphas on any GMK set and if you change them at all, it will be over the top and ruin the best part about the set in my eyes.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Tue, 06 April 2021, 23:55:33
Sign me up! Though i wish it was in something other then GMK..
"New Novelties" Hopefully GMK isn't still being moronic, and wrongly believe that "sunset" novelty somehow belongs to Laser..
And a survey for putting the hiragana sub legend in the base kit. It sucks having to buy 2 kits.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: joshuarubin on Wed, 07 April 2021, 00:07:26
I look forward to picking up this set, i prefer the new colours, can actually read it which is what stopped me last time.

I've found this set (R1) impossible to take photos of. It is not hard to read IRL. I really love the original colors, the eye searing pink is amazing. Had you picked up the original colors I'm sure you wouldn't have struggled to read at all.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: savageastr0naut on Wed, 07 April 2021, 00:17:15
Yes, my favorite keycap set is back for R2! I love the idea of new novelties. Please, consider offering a deskmat in R2 as well as more collaborations.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Shinigamii on Wed, 07 April 2021, 01:00:41
Little sad that I will not be able to mix the sets due to the color changes, I am curious to see how different the colors will look in person.  I personally like the lighter pink rather than the more vibrant pink, but I think the darker purple could be a good change.  I guess I will have to buy into R2 as well to compare for myself :) Definitely looking forward to the new novelty design and glad to see this set coming back since it was so well received for R1.
Title: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: andreiborisov on Wed, 07 April 2021, 05:44:47
Since we know how R1 looks in real life, a side-by-side comparison of old vs new colors in the same render would be helpful.

Also please consider mono hiragana alphas
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: directheatedtriode on Wed, 07 April 2021, 08:12:22
I'd saying changing something from the alphas from R1 is needed. I didn't care that the legends were hard to read, more that it looked sort of washed out in real life.

And please no weeb subs in the base kit.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NovaRMK on Wed, 07 April 2021, 08:27:28
Nice.
Title: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: andreiborisov on Wed, 07 April 2021, 08:31:42
I prefer new deeper color for modifiers, but strongly against changing the alphas. Vaporwave is supposed to look washed out and dreamy, not neon, so low contrast on alphas is part of the charm for me.

Perhaps, you should postpone the decision until color matching though, if that’s possible.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: finalarcadia on Wed, 07 April 2021, 08:46:29
I fully support trying out new colors if it's going to improve the set. How many people are really planning to mix and match with R1? Move forward!
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: 3yatt on Wed, 07 April 2021, 09:14:57
Man... Today is a good day.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: 3yatt on Wed, 07 April 2021, 09:21:12
Will there be a hiragana sub-legend alpha kit?
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: norb on Wed, 07 April 2021, 11:46:26
r2 in sa profile would be epic but i guess that's not open for discussion?

as an r1 owner, the colors are totally fine for me. hiragana monolegends or a few more novelties may be a buy for me tho, if you keep the colors.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Haunt3d on Wed, 07 April 2021, 11:57:41
Def going to be in for one.

I am very in favor of the proposed changes. Was slightly relieved when I passed on R1 and saw how some of the colors were slightly muted compared to the renders.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: mr_foggy on Wed, 07 April 2021, 12:19:54
this is a good day.
IC form filled in. both colors should stay as in R1, imo.
thank you so much for R2!
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 12:23:29
So..... who wants to buy a barely used NovelKeys pbt Vaporwave?....
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: joshuarubin on Wed, 07 April 2021, 12:30:16
I just want my R1 AESTHETIC key without paying $100 from mm for a used one that's been shined up!
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 07 April 2021, 12:52:19
Please consider the 3 40's keys in base, thank you!
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: CookieFlow on Wed, 07 April 2021, 13:01:15
I would prefer the changes to be pretty noticeable from R1, even another profile but I guess that is out of the question.

I always like when R2, R3 etc have some noticeable differences while keeping the same vibe.
It makes the previous run feel more special, but also gives R1 owners a reason to get the R2.

AESTHETIC Rama Enter key ?  :thumb:
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 13:13:31
r2 in sa profile would be epic but i guess that's not open for discussion?

as an r1 owner, the colors are totally fine for me. hiragana monolegends or a few more novelties may be a buy for me tho, if you keep the colors.
SA vaporwave would be so unbelievably awesome.. and not just becasue GMK is a shady, garbage, company.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 13:36:35
If you offer a different color for R2, can you run back the Rama X? Since PnC 2 has different colors than 1 Rama is gonna run the leaf n peach caps again.

(Vaporwave X one of my favorite caps)

Yeah as long everything works out timing/availability-wise, I'm sure we could re-run the Rama X.

Can't say for sure right now though.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 13:42:01
I've been searching for alternate mods to mix with the set since R1, so I understand the desire for change there. Where the alphas are concerned, I think they are the most vibrant alphas on any GMK set and if you change them at all, it will be over the top and ruin the best part about the set in my eyes.

The retina burning alpha legends are for sure my favorite part as well
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 14:15:59
Sign me up! Though i wish it was in something other then GMK..
"New Novelties" Hopefully GMK isn't still being moronic, and wrongly believe that "sunset" novelty somehow belongs to Laser..
And a survey for putting the hiragana sub legend in the base kit. It sucks having to buy 2 kits.

It's definitely been a tidal wave of GMK and I'll add the suggestion for hiragana to base to the notes.  :thumb:



And for anyone who may have been wondering:
I just want to double down and say that during round 1, I was not forced or coerced to avoid using the sunset by GMK or Mito.

I'm a fan of Laser and, to me, the sunset is sort of like its calling card. Like what the pokeball is to pokemon, putting aside copyrights.

So I decided to use something else. That was the only reason.

(Forgive my ignorance if something has happened regarding this topic since the GB for VW R1)



An this is not a rebuttal to your comment Havattack, just thought it would be good to address the topic if it was brought up.  :)

Thanks for your feedback
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 14:17:23
Yes, my favorite keycap set is back for R2! I love the idea of new novelties. Please, consider offering a deskmat in R2 as well as more collaborations.

Definitely considering accessories and collaborations. Will keep everyone posted, provided the opportunities pop up  :thumb:
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 14:20:41
Little sad that I will not be able to mix the sets due to the color changes, I am curious to see how different the colors will look in person.  I personally like the lighter pink rather than the more vibrant pink, but I think the darker purple could be a good change.  I guess I will have to buy into R2 as well to compare for myself :) Definitely looking forward to the new novelty design and glad to see this set coming back since it was so well received for R1.

I'm with you on the bright pink. I also think it's pretty cool in person.

Nothing is set in stone yet, though, so for all we know we could end up using the alpha set up  from R1 depending on the community input.

Thanks for your feedback  :thumb:
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 14:26:25
Will there be a hiragana sub-legend alpha kit?

Taking into account the theme of the set, the probability is 99.9% yes
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 14:30:00
r2 in sa profile would be epic but i guess that's not open for discussion?

as an r1 owner, the colors are totally fine for me. hiragana monolegends or a few more novelties may be a buy for me tho, if you keep the colors.

SA is still a possibility, just not this time around.

Fun fact: was considering SA long before GMK for vaporwave. Before the pictures of "holographic" even. I'm a fan of SA so maybe in the future.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Afresh on Wed, 07 April 2021, 14:31:35
eyes emoji
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 14:33:03
I would prefer the changes to be pretty noticeable from R1, even another profile but I guess that is out of the question.

I always like when R2, R3 etc have some noticeable differences while keeping the same vibe.
It makes the previous run feel more special, but also gives R1 owners a reason to get the R2.

AESTHETIC Rama Enter key ?  :thumb:

Haha will certainly consider a most aesthetic Rama key
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: LXVRGS on Wed, 07 April 2021, 15:18:28
any chance we can see pink accents/space bars.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: savageastr0naut on Wed, 07 April 2021, 15:50:10
Yes, my favorite keycap set is back for R2! I love the idea of new novelties. Please, consider offering a deskmat in R2 as well as more collaborations.

Definitely considering accessories and collaborations. Will keep everyone posted, provided the opportunities pop up  :thumb:
Awesome, that's great to hear. One of the largest voids from R1 for me was the lack of a matching deskmat. I have found an alternative, but I would like a deskmat with your creativity and design, as the designer of GMK Vaporwave.

Moreover, I'd like to echo the comment about how the R1 pink matches the aesthetic and theme that GMK Vaporwave is going for. As an R1 owner and someone who uses GMK Vaporwave on my daily keyboard, I love it. It's fine, please do not even consider changing it.

Furthermore, as mentioned above by user LXVRGS, please look into the feasibility of pink accents and spacebars. With how successful GMK Vaporwave R1 was and how much this hobby/community has grown since then, I believe it can be done without affecting pricing as much as we may think.

I do have a question though. The renders show icon mods and not icon + text mods like R1. Is that intentional?

Thank You, definite cop of at least like x3 sets of each kit for me haha.
GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 18:27:11
any chance we can see pink accents/space bars.

Great suggestion

Tried it out while putting together r1. Didn't look as cool as the cyan so it was scrapped.

I'll try to get a render of that in and see how people like it.

Thanks for the feedback
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 18:33:07
Yes, my favorite keycap set is back for R2! I love the idea of new novelties. Please, consider offering a deskmat in R2 as well as more collaborations.

Definitely considering accessories and collaborations. Will keep everyone posted, provided the opportunities pop up  :thumb:
Awesome, that's great to hear. One of the largest voids from R1 for me was the lack of a matching deskmat. I have found an alternative, but I would like a deskmat with your creativity and design, as the designer of GMK Vaporwave.

Moreover, I'd like to echo the comment about how the R1 pink matches the aesthetic and theme that GMK Vaporwave is going for. As an R1 owner and someone who uses GMK Vaporwave on my daily keyboard, I love it. It's fine, please do not even consider changing it.

Furthermore, as mentioned above by user LXVRGS, please look into the feasibility of pink accents and spacebars. With how successful GMK Vaporwave R1 was and how much this hobby/community has grown since then, I believe it can be done without affecting pricing as much as we may think.

I do have a question though. The renders show icon mods and not icon + text mods like R1. Is that intentional?

Thank You, definite cop of at least like x3 sets of each kit for me haha.
GLWIC

Yeah sorry about the lack of deskmat during r1. Will try to come up with something good.

Glad you like the set you got. Hope the overly bright pink has depreciated your vision as much as it has mine  :thumb:

I appreciate the in-depth comments, so whoever might be reading this, just go all out. Minor details make big differences.

Thanks for your feedback
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: CookieFlow on Wed, 07 April 2021, 18:41:28
I would prefer the changes to be pretty noticeable from R1, even another profile but I guess that is out of the question.

I always like when R2, R3 etc have some noticeable differences while keeping the same vibe.
It makes the previous run feel more special, but also gives R1 owners a reason to get the R2.

AESTHETIC Rama Enter key ?  :thumb:

Haha will certainly consider a most aesthetic Rama key

Nice haha  :thumb:

Also for the sake of change, maybe consider katakanas sublegends?
Even to run it as a second base kit.

Glad to see that a deskmat is coming this time and new novelties.
Personally I like the new subtle changes with the colors.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 18:58:51
I would prefer the changes to be pretty noticeable from R1, even another profile but I guess that is out of the question.

I always like when R2, R3 etc have some noticeable differences while keeping the same vibe.
It makes the previous run feel more special, but also gives R1 owners a reason to get the R2.

AESTHETIC Rama Enter key ?  :thumb:

Haha will certainly consider a most aesthetic Rama key

Nice haha  :thumb:

Also for the sake of change, maybe consider katakanas sublegends?
Even to run it as a second base kit.

Glad to see that a deskmat is coming this time and new novelties.
Personally I like the new subtle changes with the colors.

I just finished replying to one of your comments in the astral dark thread haha

I'll look into the katakana subs for sure.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: fromscratchusa on Wed, 07 April 2021, 20:52:34
Now this is awesome! Best of luck with the IC
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 21:06:14
Sign me up! Though i wish it was in something other then GMK..
"New Novelties" Hopefully GMK isn't still being moronic, and wrongly believe that "sunset" novelty somehow belongs to Laser..
And a survey for putting the hiragana sub legend in the base kit. It sucks having to buy 2 kits.

It's definitely been a tidal wave of GMK and I'll add the suggestion for hiragana to base to the notes.  :thumb:



And for anyone who may have been wondering:
I just want to double down and say that during round 1, I was not forced or coerced to avoid using the sunset by GMK or Mito.

I'm a fan of Laser and, to me, the sunset is sort of like its calling card. Like what the pokeball is to pokemon, putting aside copyrights.

So I decided to use something else. That was the only reason.

(Forgive my ignorance if something has happened regarding this topic since the GB for VW R1)



An this is not a rebuttal to your comment Havattack, just thought it would be good to address the topic if it was brought up.  :)

Thanks for your feedback
I feel ya buddy. But just to be clear (for anyone else, as i'm sure you all ready know this) MiTo, in no way, shape, or form created the "sunset" symbol, it existed in retrowave, and ESPECIALLY the vaporwave scene WAY before he decided to use it.
I think that symbol is such a big part of the Vaporwave scene, FAR more then Laser/cyberpunk... that it is a tragedy not to include it.. Maybe in a SA version I guess..
and i second the Katakana request, i think it is such a cool looking alphabet, and i think it fits the vaporwave theme better.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: falzm on Thu, 08 April 2021, 01:43:42
Happy to see this set return and I'd join, but please run the second round identical to the first round: this way there is no color matching to do with GMK thus a faster turnaround – or else consider renaming into "GMK Vaporwave 2" or "Vaporwave++" if you change colors.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: elisyan on Thu, 08 April 2021, 02:49:54
My favorite thing about this set has always been the combination of the in-your-face pink alpha legends and the muted alpha color.

That said, I always felt like the mod purple and teal are tones that are a bit too cold.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: paperassgasket on Thu, 08 April 2021, 06:25:07
I love seeing alice support in base. Just gimme some good 40's and I'm yours, even if it's just 3 key support.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: whezil on Thu, 08 April 2021, 08:07:19
No matter how many times I see this set it always looks so trippy. I feel like the new colors pop even more, if that's even possible. 
I'm really glad R2 is coming around, I wish I never missed the first one, so just another long wait lol.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: P103 on Thu, 08 April 2021, 10:40:09
I personally prefer the brighter and more saturated colors on R2, also definitely in for a katakana.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 08 April 2021, 11:37:17
Rama has been refusing to rerun anything previously run before. Hopefully that isnt the case for the Vaporwave X as i want it lol
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Thu, 08 April 2021, 12:22:33
Happy to see this set return and I'd join, but please run the second round identical to the first round: this way there is no color matching to do with GMK thus a faster turnaround – or else consider renaming into "GMK Vaporwave 2" or "Vaporwave++" if you change colors.

Will definitely consider a round two specific name, if we end up in that territory.

And I hear you on the fast turn around. Will be doing my best to make things as efficient as possible.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Thu, 08 April 2021, 12:39:33
My favorite thing about this set has always been the combination of the in-your-face pink alpha legends and the muted alpha color.

That said, I always felt like the mod purple and teal are tones that are a bit too cold.

I feel you

Yeah the mod purple ended up on the cooler side to give that teal/cyan a good seat.

I tried GMK's stock purple a while back (to reduce cost and turnaround), but things got a little funky.

I'll continue experimenting though and if a warmer mod option plays out, I'll be sure to get everyone's thoughts and potentially slap it onto another round of vw.

Thanks for your feedback
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Thu, 08 April 2021, 12:43:02
I love seeing alice support in base. Just gimme some good 40's and I'm yours, even if it's just 3 key support.

What keys do you need buddy?  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Thu, 08 April 2021, 12:46:19
Rama has been refusing to rerun anything previously run before. Hopefully that isnt the case for the Vaporwave X as i want it lol

I'm sure we could work something out for r2 even if it's not the r1 X.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: nvh2092 on Thu, 08 April 2021, 12:46:51
Will you consider running 2 base kits, one with latin alphas only and the other with sublegends? I joined this hobby in 2020 and missed the first round. I don't want to pay for a second round with subs since I prefer the clean look of mono latin.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Thu, 08 April 2021, 13:09:13
Will you consider running 2 base kits, one with latin alphas only and the other with sublegends? I joined this hobby in 2020 and missed the first round. I don't want to pay for a second round with subs since I prefer the clean look of mono latin.
No, that's probably not the best idea, 2 base kits will mess with MOQ/drive prices up. The best thing to do it just add the question to the IC form to survey what people want as the the base kit alphas.
You will probably get what you want. The majority of people seem to have bad taste, and prefer mono-legends for some absurd reason... :p (I kid)

(And again, just add the sunset novelty, it belong to the Vaporwave theme more then Laser.)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: CookieFlow on Thu, 08 April 2021, 13:28:53
I'd say it depends.
If the poll is close to 50/50 I'd say running 2 base kit is much better. If the split is over 70/30 then running only 1 base kit with alternate alphas makes sense.
Popular sets can still target 120$/130$ base kit while running 2 base kits.

I think a base latin only and a base katakana sub would be nice and if I had to guess would be fairly close in sales.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 09 April 2021, 01:39:15
I'd say it depends.
If the poll is close to 50/50 I'd say running 2 base kit is much better. If the split is over 70/30 then running only 1 base kit with alternate alphas makes sense.
Popular sets can still target 120$/130$ base kit while running 2 base kits.

I think a base latin only and a base katakana sub would be nice and if I had to guess would be fairly close in sales.

You make a very good point.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: AlfredK on Fri, 09 April 2021, 06:14:19
This looks amazing in my opinion, I own the R1 and i really love them but only minor complaint for me is the alpha legends is not bright enough under a brighter light.

This R2 pretty much fixes all of my minor complaints with the R1. Definitely Sold on this one. <3
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: leexy on Fri, 09 April 2021, 12:31:49
the cyan accents not so contrast irl
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Ciantha on Fri, 09 April 2021, 15:08:37
I love seeing alice support in base. Just gimme some good 40's and I'm yours, even if it's just 3 key support.

What keys do you need buddy?  :)

3-key support for 40s is adding the 3 keys below to the base kit:

The nice thing about adding these to base is that one doesn't have to worry about MOQ for a 40s kit and can still physically support a great chunk of staggered 40s.

If you're aiming for a MOQ around 1000 it might be worth making a dedicated 40s kit. A good starting point for that would be GMK Seafarer's 40s kit. You could also stop by the keycap designer discord 40s channel where some great 40s kitting people will be able to help you out.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: chowder266 on Fri, 09 April 2021, 18:41:36
Rama has been refusing to rerun anything previously run before. Hopefully that isnt the case for the Vaporwave X as i want it lol

They could possibly do a different but similar colorway!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: EdgeOfInfinity on Fri, 09 April 2021, 20:42:14
the wait is finally over!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Sat, 10 April 2021, 12:12:17
the wait is finally over!

Sorry about the long wait buddy
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Crazy Designers on Tue, 13 April 2021, 21:17:01
instant buy for me  ;D ;D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: futurekatsu on Tue, 13 April 2021, 22:54:49
Excited! It's a buy for me
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: OmoideAeternum on Tue, 13 April 2021, 23:45:01
Definitely keeping my eye on this.

Anyone know of any good artisan deskmats that go well with this?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 14 April 2021, 19:48:19
Definitely keeping my eye on this.

Anyone know of any good artisan deskmats that go well with this?

I realize this is only a half answer to your question, but I'm aiming for deskmats this time around. If you don't find one by the time of the GB, hopefully there will be one for you there  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: gminso on Thu, 15 April 2021, 21:25:40
these renders are with deeper colors right? looks good :thumb: and would like to see katakana since I see too many hiragana.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Whale_algorithm on Fri, 16 April 2021, 09:02:33
I am so in let's gooo!

Edit: would you consider doing icon + text on the mods like the original?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Sat, 17 April 2021, 11:41:17
these renders are with deeper colors right? looks good :thumb: and would like to see katakana since I see too many hiragana.

Yes, two of the colors in these renders are more "definite" compared to round one.

I'll chalk up another for katakana.

Thanks for your feedback
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Sat, 17 April 2021, 11:44:13
I am so in let's gooo!

Edit: would you consider doing icon + text on the mods like the original?

Icon + text is certainly not out of the picture completely, but truthfully it looks like we're heading towards icon mods unless we get a tsunami of people that demand otherwise.  :)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Gamelon on Sat, 17 April 2021, 12:30:02
Weeb alphas in base kit pretty please :D
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Sat, 17 April 2021, 16:23:22
Weeb alphas in base kit pretty please :D
NP added that as a question to the surrey form, SO EVERYBODY, ATTENTION: if you all ready filled out the IC, and want sublegends on the base kit, FILL OUT THE IC AGAIN please! (and if you don't want sub-legends in the base kit... don't worry about.. I'm sure you have better things to do then fill out some silly IC form....)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: LXVRGS on Sat, 17 April 2021, 17:42:51
personally id rather see hiragana return over katakana. on the icon mod vs text/icon mod debate i dont have real preference that said if the r1 mods make a return please consider a single line backspace legend for the 1.5u backspace key. the double line backspace is the only thing that kind of irks me from my r1 set.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Mon, 19 April 2021, 12:37:16
personally id rather see hiragana return over katakana. on the icon mod vs text/icon mod debate i dont have real preference that said if the r1 mods make a return please consider a single line backspace legend for the 1.5u backspace key. the double line backspace is the only thing that kind of irks me from my r1 set.

Hiragana does look a bit cleaner as sub legends. Kata gets a little crazy, but we'll have to see what the people want

Are you talking about:

Back
Space

v.s.

Backspace

?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: krikun98 on Mon, 19 April 2021, 16:19:11
HOLY HELL YES YES YES FINALLY


Vaporwave ran just before I started out in the hobby, and I just love it. A couple suggestions:
More 1U R3/R4 novelties. I know ortho is a niche, but I basically only use splits, and they can use a lot of these. Even cyan blanks would be great. R1 wasn't bad for this, but the suns were, I think, R1 only? I don't even own a board with R1.


Would definitely like to see side by side renders, but the alpha color has to be the most "rip your eyes out" available.

Is MT3 a possibility? Probably not, with Drop's approach to kitting, but I just thought I'd ask.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Mon, 19 April 2021, 22:42:02
HOLY HELL YES YES YES FINALLY


Vaporwave ran just before I started out in the hobby, and I just love it. A couple suggestions:
More 1U R3/R4 novelties. I know ortho is a niche, but I basically only use splits, and they can use a lot of these. Even cyan blanks would be great. R1 wasn't bad for this, but the suns were, I think, R1 only? I don't even own a board with R1.


Would definitely like to see side by side renders, but the alpha color has to be the most "rip your eyes out" available.

Is MT3 a possibility? Probably not, with Drop's approach to kitting, but I just thought I'd ask.

"MG" seems to be close match to MT3, with the added bonus of not dealing with Drop..
But I'm down for any high profile over cherry. MG,MT3, SA, whatever.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: paperassgasket on Tue, 20 April 2021, 00:13:43
I love seeing alice support in base. Just gimme some good 40's and I'm yours, even if it's just 3 key support.

What keys do you need buddy?  :)

3-key support for 40s is adding the 3 keys below to the base kit:
  • R2 1.75 backspace
  • R3 1.25 tab
  • R3 1.5 enter

The nice thing about adding these to base is that one doesn't have to worry about MOQ for a 40s kit and can still physically support a great chunk of staggered 40s.

If you're aiming for a MOQ around 1000 it might be worth making a dedicated 40s kit. A good starting point for that would be GMK Seafarer's 40s kit. You could also stop by the keycap designer discord 40s channel where some great 40s kitting people will be able to help you out.
Everything this guy said.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Tue, 20 April 2021, 20:29:34
HOLY HELL YES YES YES FINALLY


Vaporwave ran just before I started out in the hobby, and I just love it. A couple suggestions:
More 1U R3/R4 novelties. I know ortho is a niche, but I basically only use splits, and they can use a lot of these. Even cyan blanks would be great. R1 wasn't bad for this, but the suns were, I think, R1 only? I don't even own a board with R1.


Would definitely like to see side by side renders, but the alpha color has to be the most "rip your eyes out" available.

Is MT3 a possibility? Probably not, with Drop's approach to kitting, but I just thought I'd ask.

Thanks for the feedback buddy.

Little bit of history:
I actually tried to get this made in MT3 before settling on GMK, but back then they had their hands full with just trying to get the profile manufacturing worked out.

I also tried to get MT3 going right after R1 of GMK, but slots were filled up the wazoo haha

We'll see in the future. I'm an MT3 fan. Just have to wait until they've completed all of the classic and high volume sets I guess.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Tue, 20 April 2021, 20:30:30
HOLY HELL YES YES YES FINALLY


Vaporwave ran just before I started out in the hobby, and I just love it. A couple suggestions:
More 1U R3/R4 novelties. I know ortho is a niche, but I basically only use splits, and they can use a lot of these. Even cyan blanks would be great. R1 wasn't bad for this, but the suns were, I think, R1 only? I don't even own a board with R1.


Would definitely like to see side by side renders, but the alpha color has to be the most "rip your eyes out" available.

Is MT3 a possibility? Probably not, with Drop's approach to kitting, but I just thought I'd ask.

"MG" seems to be close match to MT3, with the added bonus of not dealing with Drop..
But I'm down for any high profile over cherry. MG,MT3, SA, whatever.

You guys know who deals with MG?
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: acitrin on Tue, 20 April 2021, 21:09:47
HOLY HELL YES YES YES FINALLY


Vaporwave ran just before I started out in the hobby, and I just love it. A couple suggestions:
More 1U R3/R4 novelties. I know ortho is a niche, but I basically only use splits, and they can use a lot of these. Even cyan blanks would be great. R1 wasn't bad for this, but the suns were, I think, R1 only? I don't even own a board with R1.


Would definitely like to see side by side renders, but the alpha color has to be the most "rip your eyes out" available.

Is MT3 a possibility? Probably not, with Drop's approach to kitting, but I just thought I'd ask.

"MG" seems to be close match to MT3, with the added bonus of not dealing with Drop..
But I'm down for any high profile over cherry. MG,MT3, SA, whatever.

You guys know who deals with MG?

Melgeek does. @muni_chang handles it these days
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: krikun98 on Wed, 21 April 2021, 05:01:57
MG also doesn't seem as restricted with novelties as MT3. And I don't have it yet, so it'd be perfect for me!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Wed, 21 April 2021, 12:07:17
HOLY HELL YES YES YES FINALLY


Vaporwave ran just before I started out in the hobby, and I just love it. A couple suggestions:
More 1U R3/R4 novelties. I know ortho is a niche, but I basically only use splits, and they can use a lot of these. Even cyan blanks would be great. R1 wasn't bad for this, but the suns were, I think, R1 only? I don't even own a board with R1.


Would definitely like to see side by side renders, but the alpha color has to be the most "rip your eyes out" available.

Is MT3 a possibility? Probably not, with Drop's approach to kitting, but I just thought I'd ask.

"MG" seems to be close match to MT3, with the added bonus of not dealing with Drop..
But I'm down for any high profile over cherry. MG,MT3, SA, whatever.

You guys know who deals with MG?

Melgeek does. @muni_chang handles it these days

Thank you
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Wed, 21 April 2021, 14:10:17
Something i completely forgot about: The thing with MG is,  at least when the MG Ghost was in IC a couple months ago, they did not yet have ISO enter molds, or sub-legend capabilities. Which REALLY sucks. So if that is still the case, they probably are not an option. sigh.. 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Viriid on Wed, 21 April 2021, 20:18:31
I loved R1, but wasn't in the hobby when it came out. Would 100% buy this if it went to GB.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: mindcomputing on Thu, 22 April 2021, 04:49:15
Would love a offcentered spacebar 6u for my 1800 keyboard
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: LXVRGS on Fri, 23 April 2021, 13:56:34
personally id rather see hiragana return over katakana. on the icon mod vs text/icon mod debate i dont have real preference that said if the r1 mods make a return please consider a single line backspace legend for the 1.5u backspace key. the double line backspace is the only thing that kind of irks me from my r1 set.

Hiragana does look a bit cleaner as sub legends. Kata gets a little crazy, but we'll have to see what the people want

Are you talking about:

Back
Space

v.s.

Backspace

?

correct single line Backspace just looks cleaner when the rest of the text/icon mods are all single line as well.
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Muenti on Sat, 24 April 2021, 00:54:08
Please, God, Norde for this one.

Yes, please!
Title: Re: GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Sat, 24 April 2021, 20:52:36
Please, God, Norde for this one.

Yes, please!

The Norde struggles man haha

Can't make any promises, but it's on the list at the very least.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: BioOrpheus on Sun, 25 April 2021, 12:15:04
Heres an idea for an alternative Alpha set. It goes really well 
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Sun, 25 April 2021, 18:59:59
meh. Hard pass. Much rather have some pink or cyan colored alphas, if there HAS to be alternate alphas, but i really just prefer the regular ones..
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: peaceperfection on Mon, 26 April 2021, 08:50:47
Interested, didn't get it during R1. I will not miss R2 this time round.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: dibkib on Fri, 30 April 2021, 12:09:19
Can we please please please have a deskmat to go with it? I love my R1 but it'd look so much cooler with a Vaporwave deskmat!

I plopped it back on my keyboard last month and I still love how it looks. The neon pink is what I was expecting 8008 to be like (god that was an unpleasant surprise when it turned out the way it did...) and it just looks awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: andreiborisov on Fri, 30 April 2021, 13:17:36
Please, God, Norde for this one.

Yes, please!

The Norde struggles man haha

Can't make any promises, but it's on the list at the very least.
Maybe Oblotzky can help with this
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Fri, 30 April 2021, 22:36:44
Can we please please please have a deskmat to go with it? I love my R1 but it'd look so much cooler with a Vaporwave deskmat!

I plopped it back on my keyboard last month and I still love how it looks. The neon pink is what I was expecting 8008 to be like (god that was an unpleasant surprise when it turned out the way it did...) and it just looks awesome.
A-men!
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Tue, 04 May 2021, 21:23:13
Not 100% certain, but I believe we'll have a deskmat available for R2.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: FlitzDeelman on Sat, 08 May 2021, 01:05:53
When you say “Estimated for Q4 2021”, do you mean it will hit GB then, or it will ship then?

GMK sets hitting GB now are expected to ship only Q2 2022.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: Havattack on Sat, 08 May 2021, 16:57:45
When you say “Estimated for Q4 2021”, do you mean it will hit GB then, or it will ship then?

GMK sets hitting GB now are expected to ship only Q2 2022.
I know you are just asking to be sure, but it sounds like you answered your own question bud... It's safe to assume it is the former.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: NaturalPack on Mon, 10 May 2021, 12:54:57
When you say “Estimated for Q4 2021”, do you mean it will hit GB then, or it will ship then?

GMK sets hitting GB now are expected to ship only Q2 2022.

Yeah, we're looking at the GB launching sometime in Q4.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 10 May 2021, 14:12:47
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Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: GabMurph on Mon, 24 May 2021, 15:11:30
I need this in my life, badly.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: asciisii on Mon, 24 May 2021, 23:26:20
I personally like the more punchy colours compared to round 1 and icons only. The kitting also, I really like (Alice spacebars, Alice B, F13) albeit it's looking like a pricey base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: robsta on Wed, 26 May 2021, 07:29:45
International Kit PLS!!! :-)
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: im_hide on Sun, 06 June 2021, 20:33:12
Will gladly get back in on this as Im having my regrets selling my R1 kit.  :'(
Title: Re: [IC] GMK Vaporwave R2
Post by: robsta on Wed, 09 June 2021, 05:19:59
Pls international Kit for us retrowavelovers in Europe :)