ordered about 1300 to get you startedawesome, thanks man ;D
Any more details? ETA after order deadline is?sorry, updated the OP
Are these coming from manufacturer or vendor?
And to clarify they are shipping to individuals from Singapore directly so you wont be sorting and re-shipping?
Are you basically collecting orders and money then forwarding to a reseller??
My money needs more details.
Count me in for 250! Thanks for working really hard to make this GB happen Hwood. I know MD ****ed you over a bit, but we all know who will end up running the better GB. :thumb:
Count me in for 250! Thanks for working really hard to make this GB happen Hwood. I know MD ****ed you over a bit, but we all know who will end up running the better GB. :thumb:
At MD you are forced to order in hundreds, the shipping is a steal and you should wait for the product to circumvent the world before it reaches you. And the price is higher, because they keep the benefit of getting lower prices due to higher volumes.
If we can hit the 20K tier that would be awesome.
Shoutouts to based shadovved for handling this! And I guess hwood is cool;)
If we can hit the 20K tier that would be awesome.
I'll probably add more to my order if we get close.
Hard to go with anyone else besides you since you did so much research on it. I'm pretty new to the whole switches game, MX has PCB and plate mounted categories when you try to order switches, does that matter for Gateron?
Would anyone happen to know if a Cherry Clear stem will fit in the Gateron Switch housings? I love me some ergo-clears
Would anyone happen to know if a Cherry Clear stem will fit in the Gateron Switch housings? I love me some ergo-clearsYep, every gateron part is compatible with any cherry part
is the reduced price point at 20k per switch or total amount of orders?20k for each switch
Would anyone happen to know if a Cherry Clear stem will fit in the Gateron Switch housings? I love me some ergo-clearsYep, every gateron part is compatible with any cherry partis the reduced price point at 20k per switch or total amount of orders?20k for each switch
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
(http://i.imgur.com/KdN3SgG.jpg)Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
If you plate mount and the PCB doesn't have holes for the legs on the bottom of the switch housing you simply clip those two plastic legs off with a pair of cutters.
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
Put my order in might add more later, but dang the thread has LOADS of people viewing hopefully we get that 20k on the clears which I think is what most will buy :)
Cross posted from /r/mechanicalkeyboards1. No , but Shadovved has lots of experience with these types of things and is a huge help
Pardon my ignorance as I've never participated in a GB before, primarily because of the bad things I've heard, but you're doing the community a SOLID one and I'd like to contribute (by participating)...I was just wondering the following...
1. Have you ever done a GB before?
2. Are .24 and .16 the only price points? or are there prices in the middle?
3. Is the ship date to the GB participants? or from the factory to Shadovved?
4. When is payment taken/when will my card be charged?
Thanks in advance...
And since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
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YepAnd since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
Do we need phone numbers as well?
Cross posted from /r/mechanicalkeyboards1. No , but Shadovved has lots of experience with these types of things and is a huge help
Pardon my ignorance as I've never participated in a GB before, primarily because of the bad things I've heard, but you're doing the community a SOLID one and I'd like to contribute (by participating)...I was just wondering the following...
1. Have you ever done a GB before?
2. Are .24 and .16 the only price points? or are there prices in the middle?
3. Is the ship date to the GB participants? or from the factory to Shadovved?
4. When is payment taken/when will my card be charged?
Thanks in advance...
2. We're talking more to Gateron, but those are the only two we have so far, thought we may get more.
3. The ship date is an estimate of when Shadovved will be shipping them out.
4. Invoices will be sent in the week after the buy ends
I wonder if its worthwhile to offer only one type of linear switch so that we can get closer to that 20K price break? Basically meaning drop black and red and offer only blue, brown, and clear.
I wonder if its worthwhile to offer only one type of linear switch so that we can get closer to that 20K price break? Basically meaning drop black and red and offer only blue, brown, and clear.
Anyone knows how many is needed for a full sized keyboard?
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
If you plate mount and the PCB doesn't have holes for the legs on the bottom of the switch housing you simply clip those two plastic legs off with a pair of cutters.
And since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
I don't want to belabor this question, but I always assumed that the the difference between "plate mount" and "pcb mount" was the legs on the bottom which are intended to key to the pcb and the presence of the little clips on the side which attach to the plate. The discussion now makes me think that both types of switches have the little clips. Is that true? It never occurred to me that the little legs on the bottom would need to get cut off in a plate mount since they really wouldn't be getting the in way (except I guess for vertical height?).
I'm in the process of planning for my first build and I had been on the fence between cherry browns & clears but this GB has me fairly convinced to buy the Gateron browns. I wish we had a little more feedback on how they compare to the cherry browns.
Michael
And since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
Ahhhh! Thanks for reminding! Resubmitting my form shortly.
Once I get back home I'll go through and pm everyone who needs more in their entry. But if you know you missed something you can PM the relevant infoAnd since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
Ahhhh! Thanks for reminding! Resubmitting my form shortly.
I didn't include a phone number, how do I go back to edit my form? Or should I submit another form?
Unless you want one of the linear gateron and don't plan to mod them.I wonder if its worthwhile to offer only one type of linear switch so that we can get closer to that 20K price break? Basically meaning drop black and red and offer only blue, brown, and clear.
That's a pretty decent idea.
Yeah, I don't know why blacks would be dropped in favor of clears. Who the hell can type on 35g linears??
And I think the price break is for the total of switches.
is the reduced price point at 20k per switch or total amount of orders?20k for each switch
clears look DOPE though, just stick different springs in :D
I got loads of everything on my order form so I'm down for whatever :) :thumb:
Oh I missed this post.And I think the price break is for the total of switches.
It was mentioned here by hwood:is the reduced price point at 20k per switch or total amount of orders?20k for each switch
That was my thought. I bought clears purely for aesthetic reasons. I figured most people were going to spring swap, I can't imagine trying to type on 35g linears.
Yeah, I don't know why blacks would be dropped in favor of clears. Who the hell can type on 35g linears??But they're translucent-ish!
Yeah, I don't know why blacks would be dropped in favor of clears. Who the hell can type on 35g linears??
Once I get back home I'll go through and pm everyone who needs more in their entry. But if you know you missed something you can PM the relevant infoAnd since all of these will be international orders technically, please include a name
Ahhhh! Thanks for reminding! Resubmitting my form shortly.
I didn't include a phone number, how do I go back to edit my form? Or should I submit another form?
you should have a few extras as backups. zeal reported a ~4% failure rate (disclaimer: very small sample size) so it would be wise to have 4-5 extra switches for every 100 you plan to useAnyone knows how many is needed for a full sized keyboard?
104 ANSI, 105 ISO (some boards like ducky + 4 switches for above the numpad, and some boards like cougar attack + 13)
you should have a few extras as backups. zeal reported a ~4% failure rate (disclaimer: very small sample size) so it would be wise to have 4-5 extra switches for every 100 you plan to useAnyone knows how many is needed for a full sized keyboard?
104 ANSI, 105 ISO (some boards like ducky + 4 switches for above the numpad, and some boards like cougar attack + 13)
That was my thought. I bought clears purely for aesthetic reasons. I figured most people were going to spring swap, I can't imagine trying to type on 35g linears.
Is there a Gateron switch that is equivalent to an MX clear? I signed up for 200 clears, but just read the Gateron clears are linear and not extra tactile like the MX clears.No, not at this moment.
the Gateron clears are linear and not extra tactile like the MX clears.
the Gateron clears are linear and not extra tactile like the MX clears.
Just a hunch, but I think many people who are ordering Gateron clears are confused about this.
the Gateron clears are linear and not extra tactile like the MX clears.
Just a hunch, but I think many people who are ordering Gateron clears are confused about this.
hmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Just remember that the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are locatedCan we update the form? Or how do we go about this?
Just remember that the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are locatedCan we update the form? Or how do we go about this?
Just remember that the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are locatedCan we update the form? Or how do we go about this?
Doh +1 I didnt put in my phone number
Ugh, I already put in a second form but forgot to enter my phone number as wellJust pm me for edits :thumb:
That's what I'm planning on doing lol.hmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Another thing...are these coming in black housing or the milky white?
Another thing...are these coming in black housing or the milky white?
Anyone know the answer to this?
That's what I'm planning on doing lol.hmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Anyone know if they stick with 35g springs?
See what I'm up to? :p
Will there be yellow switches?nope, sorry. Though something tells me we couldn't hit the MOQ for super blacks :p
Yeah, trueWill there be yellow switches?nope, sorry. Though something tells me we couldn't hit the MOQ for super blacks :p
The browns. Is the bump as gritty as mx browns? Or as nice as clears?
hmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
lemme try and put something togetherhmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Video plz!
here ya go: https://vid.me/Uh8fhmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Video plz!
Um, so just to make things a bit easier, if at all possible I'd like to ask that people order in 10s. If you can't, no problem though
aww shucks, I have to give these a try, might as well save on the cost - in for 330!
and I totally forgot to put in my ph #Show Image(http://replygif.net/i/639.gif)
aww shucks, I have to give these a try, might as well save on the cost - in for 330!
and I totally forgot to put in my ph #Show Image(http://replygif.net/i/639.gif)
I didn't see a section to provide ph#.
Do I need it?
I didn't see a section to provide ph#.
Do I need it?
Fill out the form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1q0jLqEY5tFiEi8B-JnSWnMxG1LDsyeHWhABdvvpIGUY/viewform?usp=send_form)
This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about.
<SNIP>
Just remember that since the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are located.
</SNIP>
I didn't see a section to provide ph#.
Do I need it?Fill out the form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1q0jLqEY5tFiEi8B-JnSWnMxG1LDsyeHWhABdvvpIGUY/viewform?usp=send_form)
This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about.
<SNIP>
Just remember that since the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are located.
</SNIP>
idk if there is anyway to alter the form but it might not hurt to add a specific field for phone #
I wonder how much shipping would cost :<
I only want like 3 blacks for my Numlock, scroll lock and caps lock key
Shipping will be around $7-8 worldwide no matter where since it's being shipped out of Singapore....There will be a $2 handling fee.
I didn't see a section to provide ph#.
Do I need it?Fill out the form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1q0jLqEY5tFiEi8B-JnSWnMxG1LDsyeHWhABdvvpIGUY/viewform?usp=send_form)
This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about.
<SNIP>
Just remember that since the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are located.
</SNIP>
idk if there is anyway to alter the form but it might not hurt to add a specific field for phone #
Just add it when you are typing in the address field. A final line of Tel: 1234567890 is okay.
What should I do if I've already submitted my form and didn't put down my phone number : ' [Just shoot hwood34 a PM with your info and he'll take care of you :)
What should I do if I've already submitted my form and didn't put down my phone number : ' [Just shoot hwood34 a PM with your info and he'll take care of you :)
What should I do if I've already submitted my form and didn't put down my phone number : ' [Just shoot hwood34 a PM with your info and he'll take care of you :)
oh man, I completely skipped over shadovved's response saying that a few posts above mine.
ty everybody for not overreacting bc i asked a stupid question. ty mythicalwagyu for the smiley face. this kind of peace of mind can't be bought. i love the universe.
also, pm heading your way hwood34
I didn't see a section to provide ph#.
Do I need it?Fill out the form (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1q0jLqEY5tFiEi8B-JnSWnMxG1LDsyeHWhABdvvpIGUY/viewform?usp=send_form)
This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about.
<SNIP>
Just remember that since the switches are being shipped out from Singapore, please include your phone number no matter where you are located.
</SNIP>
idk if there is anyway to alter the form but it might not hurt to add a specific field for phone #
I think that poor mx lock is trying to tell me that I might potentially mayve have a chance. lolThat's what I'm planning on doing lol.hmmm I am thinking of getting the blues and doing the jailhouse mod to it...I actually tried that with a few. Kinda crazy, the actuation is immediate.
Anyone know if they stick with 35g springs?
See what I'm up to? :p
Dunno how JH blues would react to 35g spring...but this video might be a good reference:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68789.0
Sorry for a noob question, but should I have received a confirmation email?
So is there any way for me to know that my order when through successfully?Sorry for a noob question, but should I have received a confirmation email?
Nope! You are good to go!
So is there any way for me to know that my order when through successfully?
So is there any way for me to know that my order when through successfully?Sorry for a noob question, but should I have received a confirmation email?
Nope! You are good to go!
I'm still pretty new to this hobby. Regular cherry MX blacks are 80g and are Gateron blacks 50g or 60g? On MD its saying 50g but on the tear down its saying 60g for the Gateron blacks. Thanks! :)
I'm still pretty new to this hobby. Regular cherry MX blacks are 80g and are Gateron blacks 50g or 60g? On MD its saying 50g but on the tear down its saying 60g for the Gateron blacks. Thanks! :)
Cherry MX Black actuates at 60g, bottom out around 80g.
Gateron Black actuates at 50g, and probably bottoms out around 65-70g
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
What do you mean by clipping?
If you plate mount and the PCB doesn't have holes for the legs on the bottom of the switch housing you simply clip those two plastic legs off with a pair of cutters.
I don't want to belabor this question, but I always assumed that the the difference between "plate mount" and "pcb mount" was the legs on the bottom which are intended to key to the pcb and the presence of the little clips on the side which attach to the plate. The discussion now makes me think that both types of switches have the little clips. Is that true? It never occurred to me that the little legs on the bottom would need to get cut off in a plate mount since they really wouldn't be getting the in way (except I guess for vertical height?).
I'm in the process of planning for my first build and I had been on the fence between cherry browns & clears but this GB has me fairly convinced to buy the Gateron browns. I wish we had a little more feedback on how they compare to the cherry browns.
Michael
I may need to change from browns to blacks after reading that.
All the linears are smooth. I'll probably be writing a writeup soon on a bunch of switches that I picked up.I may need to change from browns to blacks after reading that.
Get both, I got clears and browns, the only reason I chose clears over blacks is I plan to change the springs and I think clears look better. :thumb:
Edit: Wait, are Gateron clears not as smooth as Gateron blacks?
Really? I'm the only one interested in blues?!
Really? I'm the only one interested in blues?!
Cherry Blues already suck, I can't see how a switch with even greater hysteresis would be fun.
(http://gifsoup.com/view/388022/you-want-to-fight-me-a-s.gif)Really? I'm the only one interested in blues?!
Cherry Blues already suck, I can't see how a switch with even greater hysteresis would be fun.
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z192/Def_Fit/GIF/fhfjgh_zps2ed9b6c7.gif) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/Def_Fit/media/GIF/fhfjgh_zps2ed9b6c7.gif.html)
Really? I'm the only one interested in blues?!
Cherry Blues already suck, I can't see how a switch with even greater hysteresis would be fun.
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z192/Def_Fit/GIF/fhfjgh_zps2ed9b6c7.gif) (http://s190.photobucket.com/user/Def_Fit/media/GIF/fhfjgh_zps2ed9b6c7.gif.html)
Decided to go in for 110 Browns. After feeling how awesome the linear clears are I'm anxious to see what their tactile switches are like.
Decided to go in for 110 Browns. After feeling how awesome the linear clears are I'm anxious to see what their tactile switches are like.gaterons Browns aren't that great, maybe slightly better than their mx equivalent but not quite the tactility of a mx clear.
Hey hwood34They're MX compatible so they will. I think the ergo is plate mounted though if I'm not mistaken, you you'll have to clip the pins on the bottom of the switches, as I think they only come PCB-mount.
This looks awesome, I am planning on building a ergodox was wondering will this switches work with the ergodox? Sorry might be a noob question but just want to make sure.
Thanks
Hey hwood34They will in fact work with an ergodox, they have the same pin layout as MX switches.
This looks awesome, I am planning on building a ergodox was wondering will this switches work with the ergodox? Sorry might be a noob question but just want to make sure.
Thanks
Well, thanks to help from the combined efforts GH, r/MK, and DT, the buy is more than halfway to the combined MOQ of 40,000 switches!
Awesome news!! Still trying to decide which ones I'd like. Leaning towards blacks!
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130312013032/random-ness/images/f/f0/Why_not_both.jpg)Well, thanks to help from the combined efforts GH, r/MK, and DT, the buy is more than halfway to the combined MOQ of 40,000 switches!
Awesome. But which ones have reached the 0.16 level? I really hope blues get there.
200 blues and 200 browns, That I am conflicted about since I do not know if I will like them more than clears.
Awesome news!! Still trying to decide which ones I'd like. Leaning towards blacks!Well, thanks to help from the combined efforts GH, r/MK, and DT, the buy is more than halfway to the combined MOQ of 40,000 switches!
Awesome. But which ones have reached the 0.16 level? I really hope blues get there.
200 blues and 200 browns, That I am conflicted about since I do not know if I will like them more than clears.Show Image(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130312013032/random-ness/images/f/f0/Why_not_both.jpg)
Alright, current numbers have been posted
Not a lot of love for the blacks.. :( thought it be at least 3rd. Don't the gateron blues have a "worse" hysteresis than mx blue?in fact they do
Hey hwood,Nah, it's fine. With the kind of numbers we're getting, it doesn't seem like theirs is really hurting this or anything. It would have been nice if they had let me know they were going to do something like this in advance, but, whatever.
Hope you’re not too upset about MassDrop also putting up a Gateron buy. I’ve been repeatedly telling them to do one for several months (also telling them to do Kaihua, Gaote, etc. buys), and urging them to offer Gateron/Kaihua options on their keyboard kits (Ergodox, etc.).
I don’t think their buy is at all related to this one, except insofar as the handful of recent reviews of Gateron switches on geekhack probably increased the number of people requesting that they offer some.
Anyway, mad props for everything you’re doing here. Organizing GBs is a massive amount of work, you guys are saints.
Hey hwood,Nah, it's fine. With the kind of numbers we're getting, it doesn't seem like theirs is really hurting this or anything. It would have been nice if they had let me know they were going to do something like this in advance, but, whatever.
Hope you’re not too upset about MassDrop also putting up a Gateron buy. I’ve been repeatedly telling them to do one for several months (also telling them to do Kaihua, Gaote, etc. buys), and urging them to offer Gateron/Kaihua options on their keyboard kits (Ergodox, etc.).
I don’t think their buy is at all related to this one, except insofar as the handful of recent reviews of Gateron switches on geekhack probably increased the number of people requesting that they offer some.
Anyway, mad props for everything you’re doing here. Organizing GBs is a massive amount of work, you guys are saints.
Can confirm gateron clears are crazy smooth and cray light linears.
Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
Not a lot of love for the blacks.. :( thought it be at least 3rd. Don't the gateron blues have a "worse" hysteresis than mx blue?in fact they do
Well, the reset point is higher on the Gblues than MX bluesNot a lot of love for the blacks.. :( thought it be at least 3rd. Don't the gateron blues have a "worse" hysteresis than mx blue?in fact they do
what do yo mean by worse? I have been seeing people say the blues are inconsistent, but clicky is what I want. are these up to snuff or better than MX blues with the higher activation point?
what about their reset point?
God bless stock gateron blacks.Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
But you will have to change the springs in the clear switches. The black ones you can use stock! :D
God bless stock gateron blacks.Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
But you will have to change the springs in the clear switches. The black ones you can use stock! :D
God bless stock gateron blacks.Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
But you will have to change the springs in the clear switches. The black ones you can use stock! :D
That's what I'm saying! Blacks that I don't have to swap springs and lube?!?! Yes, please!!!!
The Clears look better though with the matching stem and casing!
I just put in for both Clears & Blacks so I can decide later... thinking I want to use them in a Simply 60 so I'd want gold springs anyway (I'm gonna need a second job now to make it all happen :eek: :p)The Clears look better though with the matching stem and casing!
I don't think so, personally. I have some Gateron Clears on hand that I bought from Zeal, and I don't really like the lack of contrast between the stem and switch housing.
The Clears look better though with the matching stem and casing!
I don't think so, personally. I have some Gateron Clears on hand that I bought from Zeal, and I don't really like the lack of contrast between the stem and switch housing.
That's what I'm saying! Blacks that I don't have to swap springs and lube?!?! Yes, please!!!!
That's what I'm saying! Blacks that I don't have to swap springs and lube?!?! Yes, please!!!!
What springs do you usually switch to with MX-Blacks JD?
Just a heads up for people, if you ordered reds, you might want to switch to something else. it's unlikely Gateron would take such a small order, and not many vendors are stocking them anymore. I'll check around vendor-wise though, and see if we can get something going that routeShould we just fill out the form again to overwrite a previous order?
Yeah, just make sure to pm me and let me know you didJust a heads up for people, if you ordered reds, you might want to switch to something else. it's unlikely Gateron would take such a small order, and not many vendors are stocking them anymore. I'll check around vendor-wise though, and see if we can get something going that routeShould we just fill out the form again to overwrite a previous order?
That's what I'm saying! Blacks that I don't have to swap springs and lube?!?! Yes, please!!!!
What springs do you usually switch to with MX-Blacks JD?
Sprit's 65g gold springs. :)
That's what I'm saying! Blacks that I don't have to swap springs and lube?!?! Yes, please!!!!
What springs do you usually switch to with MX-Blacks JD?
Sprit's 65g gold springs. :)
Cherry MX-Black are 60g and the Gateron are 50g, seems like you're still going to have to swap springs -- unless I'm missing something (which I probably am).
Damn I really hope people are not getting confused and think that gateron clears are tactile.I was thinking about going for the blacks but as it is I might join the Clear train to get cheaper switches.
Otherwise, I think sellers should order springs because we will need about 20k soon apparently.
But you will have to change the springs in the clear switches. The black ones you can use stock! :D
So I'm trying to summarize to myself about these switches, please correct me if I'm wrong.Gateron Black : Slightly lighter and Smoother version of MX Black
Gateron Clear: super light 30g linear
Gateron Red: slightly lighter and smoother version of MX red
Gateron Black: lighter version of MX black
Gateron Brown: slightly lighter and smoother version of MX brown
Gateron Blue: clickier version of MX blue
Just wondering, why are there suddenly so many more people going for clears when its stated that its a little too light? Is everyone just going to change the springs in it? :confused:That and aesthetics or they are little b*tches with baby fingers ^-^
Clears started the hype.Not for me. ;)
Just wondering, why are there suddenly so many more people going for clears when its stated that its a little too light? Is everyone just going to change the springs in it? :confused:That and aesthetics or they are little b*tches with baby fingers ^-^
Damn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
Damn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
20 days left for those blacks to hit 20k, might be a stretch but it can happen. I am gonna order 90 soon.
Damn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
20 days left for those blacks to hit 20k, might be a stretch but it can happen. I am gonna order 90 soon.
After I test the blacks I just got from taobao, I may be ordering 800 myself.
Damn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
20 days left for those blacks to hit 20k, might be a stretch but it can happen. I am gonna order 90 soon.
After I test the blacks I just got from taobao, I may be ordering 800 myself.
Oh yes you need. You gotta by some now ;)Damn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
20 days left for those blacks to hit 20k, might be a stretch but it can happen. I am gonna order 90 soon.
After I test the blacks I just got from taobao, I may be ordering 800 myself.
Dang it JD. I didn't need to read that. *begins tapping foot while waiting for results*
sounds like a good number to me ;DDamn I hesitate know. I think I'll just wait a bit and see which one comes on top.
20 days left for those blacks to hit 20k, might be a stretch but it can happen. I am gonna order 90 soon.
After I test the blacks I just got from taobao, I may be ordering 800 myself.
if i bought a few hundred gateron switches that would pretty much imply i will be building even more keyboards than originally planned.But who doesn't want more boards :p?
btw LOL your ****ing avatar hwood, so classy ;D
I have some worn mx blacks from a broken G80-1000. If lubed, would they compare to Gateron blacks in terms of smoothness?yep, they'd be pretty much on par
I started with 100 clears and 100 blues! If there's price drops I'll probably add more to the total.
If I increase my order is the best way just to edit my previous entry?
I started with 100 clears and 100 blues! If there's price drops I'll probably add more to the total.
If I increase my order is the best way just to edit my previous entry?
Yes, you can just edit it.
In for a bunch! (~300 misc) I wonder if I'll like them over cherry switches -- at that price I kinda hope I do!There wouldn't be a reason not to AFAIK. They come smoother stock, so hopefully no scratchiness.
Isn't that because they use softer plastic though? Could make it less durable?In for a bunch! (~300 misc) I wonder if I'll like them over cherry switches -- at that price I kinda hope I do!There wouldn't be a reason not to AFAIK. They come smoother stock, so hopefully no scratchiness.
I couldn't tell you, but what would make them less durable? I guess the amount of times they could slide up and down? And most of us probably don't use the same board enough times to hit at least 5 million strokes per each key.Isn't that because they use softer plastic though? Could make it less durable?In for a bunch! (~300 misc) I wonder if I'll like them over cherry switches -- at that price I kinda hope I do!There wouldn't be a reason not to AFAIK. They come smoother stock, so hopefully no scratchiness.
u will love emMan if you know where to source those lime green stickers, pls pm me.
u will love em
u will love emMan if you know where to source those lime green stickers, pls pm me.
Placing my order for 90 blacks, Also I am assuming CONUS is checked for those living in the USA?
Hwood, Shadovved,Appreciate it man ;D We'll find a way ;) Just as long as you order those hundreds of switches ;)
do you guys understand that this gb can become a monster?!
I'll gladly order several hundres of these switches, but I'm torn. I get a bad feeling in my stomach for the amount of work you will have to put in to send these out.
Especially you Shadovved.
I salute your efforts and hope you will get into the GH hall of fame after this has completed.
At the very least you will be in mine.
Hwood, Shadovved,
do you guys understand that this gb can become a monster?!
I'll gladly order several hundres of these switches, but I'm torn. I get a bad feeling in my stomach for the amount of work you will have to put in to send these out.
Especially you Shadovved.
I salute your efforts and hope you will get into the GH hall of fame after this has completed.
At the very least you will be in mine.
This is looking pretty awesome. Thanks Hwood and Shadovved!
u will love emMan if you know where to source those lime green stickers, pls pm me.
Gateron's do not need stickers, based on early testers reports.
Gateron's do not need stickers, based on early testers reports.
So, based on feedback, we need to do a buy with switches, springs, tops, lube, and stickers. kAnd Candies !!
So, based on feedback, we need to do a buy with switches, springs, tops, lube, and stickers. k
No, but clears, blues, and blacks are closeSo, based on feedback, we need to do a buy with switches, springs, tops, lube, and stickers. k
Yes, yes, yes. All of those would be great.
Are there 20,000 orders for any of the switches yet?
Math time:
20,000 switches at 16 cents each = $3200 per colour.
At 24 cents per switch, we'll be spending the same amount at 13,333.33333.... switches.
Therefore, assuming equivalent shipping costs, and no intermediate price breaks, it makes sense to scale up any colours at 13,333 or more switches up to 20,000, even if it means giving everyone more switches than they ordered, or using the extras for a giveaway or raffle, or just dropping them from a great height and filming it for YouTube.
The media response would be hilarious: Traffic ground to a halt downtown today, as pranksters tossed thousands of tiny mechanical switches into a busy thoroughfare. Homeland Security has adjusted the Terror Alert Level to Gateron Black in response to the situation.
No, but clears, blues, and blacks are closeSo, based on feedback, we need to do a buy with switches, springs, tops, lube, and stickers. k
Yes, yes, yes. All of those would be great.
Are there 20,000 orders for any of the switches yet?
Buy them with the assumption that you're paying .24 (which is still half the price of MX)...if they hit lowest, modify your order. But don't wait until that 20k threshold before ordering...you might miss out.
Yeah i think if we had a lube GB, that would be the icing on the cake for an already awesome GB.I'll have to think about that one, seems like there's some serious interest, but right now it seems like vendors can fulfill all the need right now
Math time:I like that math ;)
20,000 switches at 16 cents each = $3200 per colour.
At 24 cents per switch, we'll be spending the same amount at 13,333.33333.... switches.
Therefore, assuming equivalent shipping costs, and no intermediate price breaks, it makes sense to scale up any colours at 13,333 or more switches up to 20,000, even if it means giving everyone more switches than they ordered, or using the extras for a giveaway or raffle, or just dropping them from a great height and filming it for YouTube.
The media response would be hilarious: Traffic ground to a halt downtown today, as pranksters tossed thousands of tiny mechanical switches into a busy thoroughfare. Homeland Security has adjusted the Terror Alert Level to Gateron Black in response to the situation.
If browns don't make it will I be able to switch my order to clears? I need something for Nerd60 ;)They will, already past the 10k mark, but you always can change your order, just be sure to let me know
Out of interest is there a way I can increase my order say once clears have hit the target of 20k and add say Blacks, or should I just PM you :xYep, but like it's been said before, if you order the switches now you might be able to help hit the 20k quicker
What're the current numbers looking like for this GB. :cool:I'll update the OP
Buy them with the assumption that you're paying .24 (which is still half the price of MX)...if they hit lowest, modify your order. But don't wait until that 20k threshold before ordering...you might miss out.This cannot be said enough
We need to pump up the orders for blacks. If I'm going to be ordering 800 switches, it's a difference between $192 and $128.Everybody needs a little black in their life ;)
ORDER MORE BLACK SWITCHES, PEOPLE!!
Proposal:Well, browns I couldn't really justify dropping. Reds on the other hand is always a possibility since those would have to end up being vendor bought anyway for around $0.30-0.35
Drop brown and reds, and ask people to join blues, blacks and clears instead. This may take the three colors over 20k.
Out of interest is there a way I can increase my order say once clears have hit the target of 20k and add say Blacks, or should I just PM you :xYep, but like it's been said before, if you order the switches now you might be able to help hit the 20k quicker
Didn't read everything but for what its worth everyone asking to expand the buy to include modding supplies etc take a long hard look at other group buys that kept growing and either failed completely or are stuck in limbo.Yeah, that's the one thing I'm afraid of. I'd rather get each thing done individually rather than try and juggle a bunch of things at once
Also bumping up to 20K makes total sense to get the price down.
Yeah it's probably a better idea, I think a lot of people already have their modding parts, and It's totally doable at the moment to source it elsewhere.Didn't read everything but for what its worth everyone asking to expand the buy to include modding supplies etc take a long hard look at other group buys that kept growing and either failed completely or are stuck in limbo.Yeah, that's the one thing I'm afraid of. I'd rather get each thing done individually rather than try and juggle a bunch of things at once
Also bumping up to 20K makes total sense to get the price down.
Yeah, that's the thing. I can see the need maybe for another spring buy, but vendors seem to be able to keep lube stocked for the most partYeah it's probably a better idea, I think a lot of people already have their modding parts, and It's totally doable at the moment to source it elsewhere.Didn't read everything but for what its worth everyone asking to expand the buy to include modding supplies etc take a long hard look at other group buys that kept growing and either failed completely or are stuck in limbo.Yeah, that's the one thing I'm afraid of. I'd rather get each thing done individually rather than try and juggle a bunch of things at once
Also bumping up to 20K makes total sense to get the price down.
I just think vendors should stock them because a lot of peoples will be looking for lube and spring in a close future.
Is there any way for me to change my order? I think i'd rather swap my 100 clears and 100 reds for 200 blacksDone
Is there any way for me to change my order? I think i'd rather swap my 100 clears and 100 reds for 200 blacksDone
Proposal:Well, browns I couldn't really justify dropping. Reds on the other hand is always a possibility since those would have to end up being vendor bought anyway for around $0.30-0.35
Drop brown and reds, and ask people to join blues, blacks and clears instead. This may take the three colors over 20k.
So why is everyone ordering clears? They're basically unusable without a spring swap. And if you have to swap springs, why not just get Browns??
hold up hold up hold up. Why isn't there more interest in Browns? Isn't it essentially smoother ergo clears? Unless i'm reading the reviews wrongly.Hardly more tactile than mx browns.
no trouble :thumb:Is there any way for me to change my order? I think i'd rather swap my 100 clears and 100 reds for 200 blacksDone
thanks, sorry for the trouble
So the price point changes at 20k? And they are on a switch quota?Yep. I'm not sure what you mean by switch quota
The blacks with a comeback :cool:...I might have to order some moreYou certainly should ;)
this, pretty muchSo why is everyone ordering clears? They're basically unusable without a spring swap. And if you have to swap springs, why not just get Browns??
I like them for the aesthetics. My current setup is Clears for alphas and linears for modifiers. With Gateron clears I can use this setup and have both switch types in the same color, just have to put mx clears in the Gateron switch housing. ;D
Okay, just changed my order to 800 blacks, seeing as they will most likely hit the 0.16 price point. :Dmore people should follow this man's lead. The more switches the better!
assuming both switches are lubed and have the same spring weight, would there be much difference between black and clear?nope, they should be essentially the same
I updated my order!sure thing :thumb:
can you delete my first one? sorry for the trouble!
hold up hold up hold up. Why isn't there more interest in Browns? Isn't it essentially smoother ergo clears? Unless i'm reading the reviews wrongly.Very similar, yep
Red switches have been removed. Please adjust your order accordingly
and if everyone could upvote the r/mk post to get it visible: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2wtog3/buyinggateron_gb_red_switches_have_been_removed/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2wtog3/buyinggateron_gb_red_switches_have_been_removed/)
wow! Doing great on the orders and my order is not even in yet! Sweet.35g
btw, the Clears are completely linear 30g switches, right?
So the price point changes at 20k? And they are on a switch quota?Yep. I'm not sure what you mean by switch quota
So i want to change my 30 reds to 40 blacks. Should i submit new order or just pm?
For order changes, just submit another order and pm me to let me know.
I'm new to this GB thing and I have a doubt: I don't really understand what order in 10s mean so, if I want to order 140 switches, should I fill the form with 14 or with 140?you enter 140 , easier for him to work with "decades" (is it correct english wording?) rather than deal with random numbers.
thank you
you enter 140 , easier for him to work with "decades" (is it correct english wording?) rather than deal with random numbers.
you enter 140 , easier for him to work with "decades" (is it correct english wording?) rather than deal with random numbers.
Thank you.
Is it possible to cancel my order so I can make a new one?
For order changes, just submit another order and pm me to let me know.
19 hundred clears more to reach the first 20k mark, only.And we've done only 5/23 days of the opening of this group buy.
19 hundred clears more to reach the first 20k mark, only.And we've done only 5/23 days of the opening of this group buy.
Just a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
Just a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
Yep, it was upped from $2 to $3.5Just a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
I don't remember how the OP was before but are you referring to the 3.5$ handling fees?
Yep, it was $2 before, so $1.5 for freight costsJust a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
I don't remember how the OP was before but are you referring to the 3.5$ handling fees?
Yep, it was upped from $2 to $3.5Just a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
I don't remember how the OP was before but are you referring to the 3.5$ handling fees?
Yep, it was $2 before, so $1.5 for freight costsJust a heads up, the fee has been adjusted to include freight shipping from Gateron to Shadovved which I somehow forgot about
I don't remember how the OP was before but are you referring to the 3.5$ handling fees?
Only 400 away from the 20k mark for clears!
Yeah, we don't need no stinking savings!Only 400 away from the 20k mark for clears!
no reason for "savings".
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.Nice review! Added it to the OP :thumb:
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
hwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?
hwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?Don't you trust based Tyrone?
I was honestly wondering if Gateron had any kind of warranty service in place.hwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?
.-. Bill please, no trolling now
I don't trust Europeanshwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?Don't you trust based Tyrone?
Cherry, GMK cough coughI don't trust Europeanshwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?Don't you trust based Tyrone?
Cherry, GMK cough coughI don't trust Europeanshwood do you offer any kind of warranty on these switches?Don't you trust based Tyrone?
Warranty for a 24 cents per part discrete switch? Come on. Take some perspective pal.MX switches cost less than that when sold in bulk to keyboard OEMs. Unfortunately they have 12+ month lead times on new purchases at the moment.
Warranty for a 24 cents per part discrete switch? Come on. Take some perspective pal.MX switches cost less than that when sold in bulk to keyboard OEMs. Unfortunately they have 12+ month lead times on new purchases at the moment.
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
thanks for the review, I was under the impression that blacks had default 50g springs. Am I to assume that Korean springs are measured differently?
Just a heads up for everyone. I don't know if this affects anyone's decision on whether or not to buy these switches.
I built my JD45 prototype with Gateron blacks this weekend. Sorry, no pics yet. The Gateron blacks are very smooth, with no gritty feeling like MX switches have when new and stock. The stiffness of the springs in the blacks feels like a 67-68g Korean spring. If you like linears, but want just a touch lighter than stock MX blacks, these are a great option to use stock, with NO LUBING OR SPRING SWAPPING REQUIRED.
Also, the PCB mount pins on the underside of the switch housing DO NOT REQUIRE MODIFICATION TO USE WITH PCB MOUNT HOLES IN A PCB. They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE. If you pull the switch out and re-seat it, it feels just like a stock MX switch with regard to tightness of the PCB mount pins. There are little "micro fins" on the PCB mount pins of the Gaterons which help secure the switch even more tightly than an MX switch the first time it is installed in a PCB. Once these are compressed and pulled out, they are basically at Cherry spec, so they should be the same as new stock MX switches.
I was skeptical at first, of using a "clone" switch in place of my trusty MX switches. But I am buying these with no hesitation to use in all my future builds. If I could afford to buy 5,000 of them at once, that's how many I would buy.
BUY THESE SWITCHES.
thanks for the review, I was under the impression that blacks had default 50g springs. Am I to assume that Korean springs are measured differently?stock blue/brown/red MX springs are 60g on the Korean scale, and black MX springs are 80
thanks for the replies, you guys are quick. How does a mixture of blacks and clears sound for my ergodox build? Blacks for the main alphabet keys and clears surrounding those key including the thump cluster keys. But enough black keys to cover the keyboard since clears seem to be bought for aesthetics. Decisions, decisions....I think typically people choose to use heavier keys for modifiers and their spacebar because usually when you go for those keys it is more deliberate and also having heavier keys would make pressing them on accident less likely. So for you I might switch it around so that you have clears for alphabet and blacks for spacebar/modifiers. Just my .02
thanks for the replies, you guys are quick. How does a mixture of blacks and clears sound for my ergodox build? Blacks for the main alphabet keys and clears surrounding those key including the thump cluster keys. But enough black keys to cover the keyboard since clears seem to be bought for aesthetics. Decisions, decisions....I think typically people choose to use heavier keys for modifiers and their spacebar because usually when you go for those keys it is more deliberate and also having heavier keys would make pressing them on accident less likely. So for you I might switch it around so that you have clears for alphabet and blacks for spacebar/modifiers. Just my .02
BUY THESE SWITCHES.(https://38.media.tumblr.com/90602955dec91944b053773da83e15cc/tumblr_mr8h27oUwu1stovwyo1_500.gif)
I'm still trying to figure out if the Gat Browns are more like MX browns, or MX clears as far as tactility goes.
Also interested.I'm still trying to figure out if the Gat Browns are more like MX browns, or MX clears as far as tactility goes.
I am interested, too. Maybe they're an alternative to Ergo Clears. I've heard that Greetech Brown switches are more tactile than MX Browns. Can someone explain how the Gateron Browns feel?
So even though I haven't replied to a few of the PMs I got recently, rest assured that every order has been updated
In my opinions Gaterons browns are almost equivalent to Cherries, but I didn't spend time on them, just a few clicks and I was like "yeah similar to cherry mx poop let's not waste time here"
Check the OP, some have written comparison (including me) .Also interested.I'm still trying to figure out if the Gat Browns are more like MX browns, or MX clears as far as tactility goes.
I am interested, too. Maybe they're an alternative to Ergo Clears. I've heard that Greetech Brown switches are more tactile than MX Browns. Can someone explain how the Gateron Browns feel?
Check the OP, some have written comparison (including me) .Also interested.I'm still trying to figure out if the Gat Browns are more like MX browns, or MX clears as far as tactility goes.
I am interested, too. Maybe they're an alternative to Ergo Clears. I've heard that Greetech Brown switches are more tactile than MX Browns. Can someone explain how the Gateron Browns feel?
- MX Brown vs Gateron Brown: as the other comparison I made about gateron vs MX, it seems that the gateron has a bit more smoothness in them. This the time where I wish I had some clears on hand so I could compare with the Brown. I don't remember them. I tried clears a long time ago and my taste in keyboard wasn't so developed (it was new to me). I think I might like them again but I'm not sure. I feel that their tactility is about the same between this two browns and it is inferior to my Topre board. If I had to take an equivalent in MX for Topre, it wouldn't be Browns for sure.
They seem a bit more tactile but still felt like they have some kind of sand in it that the plastic scratches against. Nonetheless keep in mind that it is purely subjective. I don't particularly enjoy them but you may.Check the OP, some have written comparison (including me) .Also interested.I'm still trying to figure out if the Gat Browns are more like MX browns, or MX clears as far as tactility goes.
I am interested, too. Maybe they're an alternative to Ergo Clears. I've heard that Greetech Brown switches are more tactile than MX Browns. Can someone explain how the Gateron Browns feel?
I've read through your review but focused on Blacks and Clears, my mistake.Quote from: Ngt
- MX Brown vs Gateron Brown: as the other comparison I made about gateron vs MX, it seems that the gateron has a bit more smoothness in them. This the time where I wish I had some clears on hand so I could compare with the Brown. I don't remember them. I tried clears a long time ago and my taste in keyboard wasn't so developed (it was new to me). I think I might like them again but I'm not sure. I feel that their tactility is about the same between this two browns and it is inferior to my Topre board. If I had to take an equivalent in MX for Topre, it wouldn't be Browns for sure.
Doesn't sound like they're particularly more tactile.
They require just a bit more force to install into the holes than a standard MX switch, but once you push them in, they are VERY SECURE.
It's gotten to the point where there is too much for me to read through to make sure I'm not asking a question that's already been answered:
1) Was it 20k as in dollars for the total order? Or 20k switches, because apparently 20k switches was too easy :P
2) Is it cool to amend our orders once we get to the better price tier? I'd be find with spending the same $50 and get 50% more switches...
It's gotten to the point where there is too much for me to read through to make sure I'm not asking a question that's already been answered:
1) Was it 20k as in dollars for the total order? Or 20k switches, because apparently 20k switches was too easy :p
2) Is it cool to amend our orders once we get to the better price tier? I'd be find with spending the same $50 and get 50% more switches...
I real all reviews but none of them satisfied my curiosity and I didn't find the answers I was looking for in this thread. I'm a MX reds user and wanted some gateron reds which unfortunately were dropped.1) yeah unusable stock
So, a couple questions for someone who enjoys reds and has tried gateron clears/blacks:
1) Do you feel clears are too light?
2) Do you gateron blacks are significantly lighter than mx blacks? Would you say they are close to mx reds?
3) Which would you prefer: gateron clears or black?
Thanks in advance :P
I see a lot of people saying that clears are unusably light so why are the numbers so high for them? aesthetics?Yep!
I see a lot of people saying that clears are unusably light so why are the numbers so high for them? aesthetics?Yep!
I don't plan on lubing mine when I get them, I plan on swapping the springs in the blacks to the clears, that way they are blacks with a clear stem.I see a lot of people saying that clears are unusably light so why are the numbers so high for them? aesthetics?Yep!
I suppose it makes sense as most of us would be opening them to lube them anyways so a spring swap isn't any more work.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
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we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
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NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
:-*we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
STOP TWISTING MY ARM!! :p
Ohh okay fine you convinced me
edit: order placed :) 90 clears/90 blacks
we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
Awesome! Patiently waiting to get my hands on them. Now all that is left is to find a cheap set of ergodox keycaps.
we're close enough to blacks now that I'd just buy em up to 20k if need be, so order without fear :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUNG2wy.png)
:cool:
NICE! Now we just need to get the blacks to 20k and I can put in my order! :thumb:
I wish I wasn't so low on funds so I can commit now...
Awesome! Patiently waiting to get my hands on them. Now all that is left is to find a cheap set of ergodox keycaps.
If you don't mind DSA blank keycaps, you can buy an Ergodox Base set + Modifier set at Pimp My Keyboard (http://keyshop.pimpmykeyboard.com/products/full-keysets/dsa-blank-sets-1). It'll cost you $47.
Browns should double their orders to reach the 20k mark, doubtful.ya never now, I might have something up my sleeve ;)
Browns should double their orders to reach the 20k mark, doubtful.ya never now, I might have something up my sleeve ;)
Browns should double their orders to reach the 20k mark, doubtful.
Browns should double their orders to reach the 20k mark, doubtful.
Browns should double their orders to reach the 20k mark, doubtful.
Don't make me buy 1000 of them. :)
Damn clear or black? Black or clear? The hesitation is high!
Do you the clear would be too light for mods? To make something like the Topre variant weight but for MX.
Where will you guys be buying the PCB's for your builds? Any good shop in Europe?no european option that I'm aware of.
Here are a few option that doesn't need to go through a group buy :
http://winkeyless.kr/en/
Alright, so I finally decided to jump in. This will be my step to my first handmade board (also my first GB), so pretty excited about it.Certainly a good way to start :thumb:
Are the clears really too light to be usable? How do they compare to cherry reds?clears: 35g compared to 45g mx red
Someone said that the actuation point of the blues is higher thant the cherry blues, so, will this mod still be possible?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45992.msg1648060#msg1648060
Are the clears really too light to be usable? How do they compare to cherry reds?clears: 35g compared to 45g mx red
Someone said that the actuation point of the blues is higher thant the cherry blues, so, will this mod still be possible?
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45992.msg1648060#msg1648060
jailhouse gateron blues : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=68943.120
How do these feel with MX Clear springs? As in ghost blacks?
Pretty big step forward! :thumb:
Welcome to GH as well.
Alright, so I finally decided to jump in. This will be my step to my first handmade board (also my first GB), so pretty excited about it.Certainly a good way to start :thumb:
Thanks for that mini-review. :thumb:How do these feel with MX Clear springs? As in ghost blacks?I tried Cherry clear springs in my Gateron clears and they felt incredible. If I'm honest they actually felt almost slightly too heavy, at least for linear switches. I ended up dropping down to the 78g sprit springs and now I'm confident that I've got my end-game linear switches.
Yes, Gateron clears are unusable with the stock springs in them. They are the lightest switches I've ever felt. A mouse fart or a stray butterfly could accidently activate one of those switches with the stock springs. I have a whole baggie of the stock springs that I'm pretty sure is going to go into the garbage because they are that light.
How do these feel with MX Clear springs? As in ghost blacks?
I tried Cherry clear springs in my Gateron clears and they felt incredible. If I'm honest they actually felt almost slightly too heavy, at least for linear switches. I ended up dropping down to the 78g sprit springs and now I'm confident that I've got my end-game linear switches.
Yes, Gateron clears are unusable with the stock springs in them. They are the lightest switches I've ever felt. A mouse fart or a stray butterfly could accidently activate one of those switches with the stock springs. I have a whole baggie of the stock springs that I'm pretty sure is going to go into the garbage because they are that light.
I'm thinking about making a purchase for about 100 Black switches to replace my MX Reds. Would this be a wiser move than to maybe just get some replacements springs? I have another board with MX Blacks and I may want to get something a littler heaver/smoother to mimic the feeling.
Can anyone spit some knowledge on me? :)
Proposal: Add springs to the GB in modules ranging from 50 to 80.
Is there a chance to source springs along with the switches? It would allow the brothers to mix and match them to their preferences. The lack of experience on actual performance of Gaterons turns this GB into an experiment, and having the springs may allow precise customization. Potentially making everybody happy.
:))
I'm thinking about making a purchase for about 100 Black switches to replace my MX Reds. Would this be a wiser move than to maybe just get some replacements springs? I have another board with MX Blacks and I may want to get something a littler heaver/smoother to mimic the feeling.
Can anyone spit some knowledge on me? :)
Gateron blacks are smoother than MX blacks or reds. They are heavier than reds, which is a good thing, IMO. They are slightly lighter than MX blacks, which again is a good thing. No spring swap or lubing required, which is a VERY good thing. :D
I RECOMMEND YOU BUY LOTS AND LOTS OF GATERON BLACKS.
I'm personally ordering 1000 of them, and no other Gateron switch (I've tried Gateron clears), if that tells you anything.
Proposal: Add springs to the GB in modules ranging from 50 to 80.
Is there a chance to source springs along with the switches? It would allow the brothers to mix and match them to their preferences. The lack of experience on actual performance of Gaterons turns this GB into an experiment, and having the springs may allow precise customization. Potentially making everybody happy, instead of frustrated.
:))
I'm thinking about making a purchase for about 100 Black switches to replace my MX Reds. Would this be a wiser move than to maybe just get some replacements springs? I have another board with MX Blacks and I may want to get something a littler heaver/smoother to mimic the feeling.
Can anyone spit some knowledge on me? :)
Gateron blacks are smoother than MX blacks or reds. They are heavier than reds, which is a good thing, IMO. They are slightly lighter than MX blacks, which again is a good thing. No spring swap or lubing required, which is a VERY good thing. :D
I RECOMMEND YOU BUY LOTS AND LOTS OF GATERON BLACKS.
I'm personally ordering 1000 of them, and no other Gateron switch (I've tried Gateron clears), if that tells you anything.
Proposal: Add springs to the GB in modules ranging from 50 to 80.
Is there a chance to source springs along with the switches? It would allow the brothers to mix and match them to their preferences. The lack of experience on actual performance of Gaterons turns this GB into an experiment, and having the springs may allow precise customization. Potentially making everybody happy, instead of frustrated.
:))
Lets not make this GB harder than it has to be. We don't want to get into issues with different delivery times and people wanting their orders because they don't want to wait for the other items to arrive, etc... It makes the logistics a lot more complicated. These guys are going to have enough work cut out for them just delivering the switches and the covers. Lets not let our excitement lead to scope creep which will make everything harder for everyone. Lets keep it as simple as possible because the scale we are working with here is getting pretty massive.
Proposal: Add springs to the GB in modules ranging from 50 to 80.
Is there a chance to source springs along with the switches? It would allow the brothers to mix and match them to their preferences. The lack of experience on actual performance of Gaterons turns this GB into an experiment, and having the springs may allow precise customization. Potentially making everybody happy, instead of frustrated.
:))
Lets not make this GB harder than it has to be. We don't want to get into issues with different delivery times and people wanting their orders because they don't want to wait for the other items to arrive, etc... It makes the logistics a lot more complicated. These guys are going to have enough work cut out for them just delivering the switches and the covers. Lets not let our excitement lead to scope creep which will make everything harder for everyone. Lets keep it as simple as possible because the scale we are working with here is getting pretty massive.
^^ this, more group buys need to embrace k.i.s.s.
Guys guys guys please stop! Stop convincing me to buy more switches!! I don't even know how to solder yet :D
I know which is why it's making it difficult.Guys guys guys please stop! Stop convincing me to buy more switches!! I don't even know how to solder yet :D
It's your chance to learn bro.
This would be the group buy of the year, for dedicated keyboard aficionados only; those customizing their MX switches to the limit. :))
I know which is why it's making it difficult.Guys guys guys please stop! Stop convincing me to buy more switches!! I don't even know how to solder yet :D
It's your chance to learn bro.
This would be the group buy of the year, for dedicated keyboard aficionados only; those customizing their MX switches to the limit. :))
Now I am debating whether or not to cancel my 100 clears and get 200 blacks instead
or 200 black and 100 clears!?
AND I'm trying to save money :( sorry wallet
I know which is why it's making it difficult.Guys guys guys please stop! Stop convincing me to buy more switches!! I don't even know how to solder yet :D
It's your chance to learn bro.
This would be the group buy of the year, for dedicated keyboard aficionados only; those customizing their MX switches to the limit. :))
Now I am debating whether or not to cancel my 100 clears and get 200 blacks instead
or 200 black and 100 clears!?
AND I'm trying to save money :( sorry wallet
If you care about smooth feeling switches, order blacks.
If you don't mind swapping springs; AND if you leave the keycaps off your keyboards often, so that you can admire the switches, order a few clears. ;)
All this talk of clears being unusable with stock springs is dis-concerning, it sounds like they are ALOT lighter than the cherry reds.
jd, if lubed blacks score 100/100 points in the smooth department, how much does unlubed blacks get?
90/100 sounds amazing.. not sure if i should shell out the extra cash to go the distance
90/100 sounds amazing.. not sure if i should shell out the extra cash to go the distance
I'll tell you one thing for sure. Once you go Gateron, you'll never go back (to MX linears).
oh i'm 100% on board with Gaterons. was just thinking aloud whether i should spend $30-$45 on lube to squeeze out that last 10% performance increase. law of diminishing returns and all that
oh i'm 100% on board with Gaterons. was just thinking aloud whether i should spend $30-$45 on lube to squeeze out that last 10% performance increase. law of diminishing returns and all that
In other words, you can use the Gateron blacks stock, and they will feel almost like 68g (Korean) lubed MX blacks. Or you can lube them, and they will feel like lubed vintage blacks. :)
Will the OP be updated with numbers soon? :)
All this talk of clears being unusable with stock springs is dis-concerning, it sounds like they are ALOT lighter than the cherry reds.
They are. You don't want clears unless you are prepared to spring swap.
Will the OP be updated with numbers soon? :)
I hope so because black will be up to 20K or over!
Will the OP be updated with numbers soon? :)
I hope so because black will be up to 20K or over!
You upped it to 20k.
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
What about the red lube sold by EK? I'm asking because I have it so I wonder what it is worth.
EDIT: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2 (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2)
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
What about the red lube sold by EK? I'm asking because I have it so I wonder what it is worth.
EDIT: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2 (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2)
NOTHING BUT KRYTOX.
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
What about the red lube sold by EK? I'm asking because I have it so I wonder what it is worth.
EDIT: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2 (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2)
NOTHING BUT KRYTOX.
But superlube is ok right jd?
Is there a specific one that you could recommend? I thought that they evaporated after some time and left behind residue making the switch even stickier - any truth to that? Also could I use the same lube for the springs? I'm trying to protect my wallet!I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
What about the red lube sold by EK? I'm asking because I have it so I wonder what it is worth.
EDIT: https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2 (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2)
NOTHING BUT KRYTOX.
Is there a specific one that you could recommend? I thought that they evaporated after some time and left behind residue making the switch even stickier - any truth to that? Also could I use the same lube for the springs? I'm trying to protect my wallet!
I'm going to be using 78g Korean springs on Stricts recommendation. What would be a good lube to complete the ultimate linear?
Krytox.
If you buy it premixed, you want thin.
What about the red lube sold by EK? I'm asking because I have it so I wonder what it is worth.
Is there a specific one that you could recommend? I thought that they evaporated after some time and left behind residue making the switch even stickier - any truth to that? Also could I use the same lube for the springs? I'm trying to protect my wallet!
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant)
Sold out on geekhackers.org, and [CTRL]ALT store is down. But you can always PM BunnyLake to order, too.
Krytox doesn't evaporate, so you never need to reapply. You COULD use Krytox for springs, but it is expensive for that purpose. I recommend Victorinox Multi Tool Oil.
Is there a specific one that you could recommend? I thought that they evaporated after some time and left behind residue making the switch even stickier - any truth to that? Also could I use the same lube for the springs? I'm trying to protect my wallet!
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant)
Sold out on geekhackers.org, and [CTRL]ALT store is down. But you can always PM BunnyLake to order, too.
Krytox doesn't evaporate, so you never need to reapply. You COULD use Krytox for springs, but it is expensive for that purpose. I recommend Victorinox Multi Tool Oil.
Damn I tried to find some Krytox lube when I was looking for some. I wasn't able to put my hands on some. I guess I didn't look well enough.
Considering the Mecklube 2, have you ever tried it and can speak from experience that it is not good enough? Or have you only tried Krytox, as you know it works well you recommend it?
updatedWill the OP be updated with numbers soon? :)
I hope so because black will be up to 20K or over!
Is there a specific one that you could recommend? I thought that they evaporated after some time and left behind residue making the switch even stickier - any truth to that? Also could I use the same lube for the springs? I'm trying to protect my wallet!
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant)
Sold out on geekhackers.org, and [CTRL]ALT store is down. But you can always PM BunnyLake to order, too.
Krytox doesn't evaporate, so you never need to reapply. You COULD use Krytox for springs, but it is expensive for that purpose. I recommend Victorinox Multi Tool Oil.
Damn I tried to find some Krytox lube when I was looking for some. I wasn't able to put my hands on some. I guess I didn't look well enough.
Considering the Mecklube 2, have you ever tried it and can speak from experience that it is not good enough? Or have you only tried Krytox, as you know it works well you recommend it?
I haven't tried Mechlube 2, but I don't think anything can come close to Krytox. There was a post by mkawa that explains its properties. I'll see if I can find it.
Edit: here it is https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58312.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58312.0)
I feel like you cannot find Krytox in Europe. Last time I checked the only offer were from the US.
I feel like you cannot find Krytox in Europe. Last time I checked the only offer were from the US.
Send BunnyLake a PM. I believe he has some stock, even though his store is offline.
TechKeys Ships to Europe and with free shipping on orders over $50
http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant (http://techkeys.us/collections/accessories/products/krytox-switch-lurbricant)
I prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kitI prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
Yellow brush tip?
http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit (http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit)I prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
Yellow brush tip?
first time lubing, and I gotta say it's a great tool to manage a consitent lubing
ofc why wouldn't it.http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit (http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit)I prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
Yellow brush tip?
first time lubing, and I gotta say it's a great tool to manage a consitent lubing
Thank you. Wouldn't a thin paint brush do the trick too?Show Image(https://www.valmour.com/upload/redim/prezoom_a3a4d0e0939c7c285d08e0dcdcefd4c61163346083.jpg)
http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit (http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit)I prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
Yellow brush tip?
first time lubing, and I gotta say it's a great tool to manage a consitent lubing
Thank you. Wouldn't a thin paint brush do the trick too?Show Image(https://www.valmour.com/upload/redim/prezoom_a3a4d0e0939c7c285d08e0dcdcefd4c61163346083.jpg)
Just ordered 100 blues, 100 browns.If you haven't already, you should check out builder.swillkb.com for building your plate w/ a case.
Thanks a ton! Building my first keyboard for my birthday next month and was looking for a good deal. Got my waterjet class next friday so Im hoping to cut the plates these will go in soon too!
Just ordered 100 blues, 100 browns.If you haven't already, you should check out builder.swillkb.com for building your plate w/ a case.
Thanks a ton! Building my first keyboard for my birthday next month and was looking for a good deal. Got my waterjet class next friday so Im hoping to cut the plates these will go in soon too!
Can anyone who is already using the switches comment on whether or not they ping the same way as MX?
So, today a package from Zeal arrived, and inside of it he included a lubed Gateron clear with a 62g spring. I de-soldered the Cherry escape switch off of my Phantom, and replaced it with the Gateron.
It is a REALLY smooth switch, as everyone has been saying. I'm definitely glad I joined this GB now that I've had a chance to sample one switch. :thumb:
It's like.. plastic butter.
Can anyone who is already using the switches comment on whether or not they ping the same way as MX?
Switches are not what causes ping. The case and plate materials and construction are what causes ping. MX switches can be used in a quality keyboard with zero ping. And I have an IBM keyboard with tee Alps that pings like crazy. Topre don't really ping, due to the nature of the slider mechanism in the plate. That's why they thock. :)
Looks like clears and blacks are now above 20k! Awesome! Sounds like this is a done deal then.The amounts we're getting right now are on the lower end of the spectrum of order size for Gateron. They can crank out a hell of a lot more than this is not a lot of time
Have you guys spoken to Gateron about these quantities? I'm sure they are more than happy to sell you this many switches... but how's their stock? Do they envision their being supply issues?
Down for a 100 each clears and blacks. I was curious if it was possible that I could submit payment now, as they both seem to have hit the 20k mark and I like to have my affairs sorted ASAP.All invoices will be going out at the same time, sorry.
Looks like clears and blacks are now above 20k! Awesome! Sounds like this is a done deal then.The amounts we're getting right now are on the lower end of the spectrum of order size for Gateron. They can crank out a hell of a lot more than this is not a lot of time
Have you guys spoken to Gateron about these quantities? I'm sure they are more than happy to sell you this many switches... but how's their stock? Do they envision their being supply issues?
Could someone advise on a place to get some springs for the clears? Also, what would be your choice of spring for these switches?
http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit (http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/geekhackers-v2-lube-kit)I prefer using the yellow brush tip to place an even coating on the friction points.
Yellow brush tip?
first time lubing, and I gotta say it's a great tool to manage a consitent lubing
Thank you. Wouldn't a thin paint brush do the trick too?Show Image(https://www.valmour.com/upload/redim/prezoom_a3a4d0e0939c7c285d08e0dcdcefd4c61163346083.jpg)
Yes, I use a small nylon brush. Keep in mind that is actually pretty easy to over lube. If you put too much lube the switches will feel mushy for about a month or so. I use a paint brush and I paint on a SUPER thin layer. I am mixing my own Krytox lube (I have both oil and grease), so I had to play with it a bit before I got a mixture that I liked.
Can anyone who is already using the switches comment on whether or not they ping the same way as MX?
Switches are not what causes ping. The case and plate materials and construction are what causes ping. MX switches can be used in a quality keyboard with zero ping. And I have an IBM keyboard with tee Alps that pings like crazy. Topre don't really ping, due to the nature of the slider mechanism in the plate. That's why they thock. :)
What does "pinging" mean for a keyboard? Sorry for the stupid question but that's the first time I'm seeing this word used about keyboards.Some keyboards are constructed in such a way that when you press a key down relatively hard (or just normally in the case of Model Fs), a metal plate somewhere ends up vibrating, resulting in a high-frequency sound. Most people don’t like this, but it’s usually possible to dampen the vibration of any metal plates by stuffing the case full of shelf liner, or on Model F keyboards putting a piece of “super floss” down the center of each spring.
Could someone advise on a place to get some springs for the clears? Also, what would be your choice of spring for these switches?
Here you go mate: http://zealpc.net/collections/accessories/products/18k-gold-plated-springs-100pcs
What does "pinging" mean for a keyboard?Ping = a residual ringing sound after a key has been struck. What causes it and how important it is has been almost continuously debated in several threads over several years.
What does "pinging" mean for a keyboard? Sorry for the stupid question but that's the first time I'm seeing this word used about keyboards.Some keyboards are constructed in such a way that when you press a key down relatively hard (or just normally in the case of Model Fs), a metal plate somewhere ends up vibrating, resulting in a high-frequency sound. Most people don’t like this, but it’s usually possible to dampen the vibration of any metal plates by stuffing the case full of shelf liner, or on Model F keyboards putting a piece of “super floss” down the center of each spring.
Edit: I'm sorry, I should have reloaded the page before posting...What does "pinging" mean for a keyboard?Ping = a residual ringing sound after a key has been struck. What causes it and how important it is has been almost continuously debated in several threads over several years.
All mechanical contact and movement in metal springs cause vibrations that are dampened and/or amplified in various ways by the different parts of the keyboard, depending on the materials and constructions. I think that keyboard feet/rubber pads on the underside and the desk surface can also be significant factors.
It is not just metal plates that ping. I have a keyboard with PCB-mounted vintage Cherry MX Black switches that pings very much but is otherwise very silent.
Ping can also vary with different users' typing styles and different keys could cause different amounts of ping.
didnt expect this to go live for at least another month.neither did I...
Grr no reds now? :mad: That ruining my plans to make a variable force linear Gaterons.
Waiting till the 12th with my order (need to see the final handling fee :p )
I am also interested how many switches can we bring in the EU without paying the taxes for the switches?
Im only consirned i will be taxed much more then i paid the switches :eek:
Waiting till the 12th with my order (need to see the final handling fee :p )
I am also interested how many switches can we bring in the EU without paying the taxes for the switches?
Im only consirned i will be taxed much more then i paid the switches :eek:
Check what is the highest value you can import in your country without being taxed.
For example for me is 23 € that is around 160 with the 0,16 cent price
BTW buy more blues :D
are these plate-mounted?
are these plate-mounted?↓
Gaterons are PCB mount only, but they can be made into plate mount by clipping them!
It's not really a risk, he's actually telling the truth, he's rewarding you with a gift for helping reach the 20K mark...you contributed to the group buy to help us in the US out, the outcome is that he gets to send a few out to those in the EU who helped as a reward.
Grr no reds now? :mad: That ruining my plans to make a variable force linear Gaterons.Damn, that would be really cool. I'll see if I can round up some 45g switches and send em your way, I'd love to see a variable gate board ;D
I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
The amounts we're getting right now are on the lower end of the spectrum of order size for Gateroni'm curious as to who are ordering Gaterons en masse. probably the Chinese community, but it would be cool if some manufacturers plan on outfitting their next boards with gaterons
I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
I don't know if the organizers want to handle it, but someone earlier calculated, that I you want more than 13,333 switches, it's cheaper to at least order 20k and both switches almost hit that target (also the group buy still has some time to run).
The amounts we're getting right now are on the lower end of the spectrum of order size for Gateroni'm curious as to who are ordering Gaterons en masse. probably the Chinese community, but it would be cool if some manufacturers plan on outfitting their next boards with gaterons
But it would be cheaper in the end if the excess switches are distributed between the buyers, wouldn't it. Though, it would be quite some organizational work.I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
I don't know if the organizers want to handle it, but someone earlier calculated, that I you want more than 13,333 switches, it's cheaper to at least order 20k and both switches almost hit that target (also the group buy still has some time to run).
Right. Any number between 13,333 and 20,000 the organizer would simply order 20,000, because it would cost the same, but people would still pay the higher price tier cost per switch, because the organizer still has to collect the money to pay for those 20,000 switches from the buyers. It doesn't affect the buyer until the 20k mark is reached with actual orders.
Yes, in theory you could get a few extra switches with your order. But in reality, I would never expect the GB organizer to fulfill orders that way.But it would be cheaper in the end if the excess switches are distributed between the buyers, wouldn't it. Though, it would be quite some organizational work.I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
I don't know if the organizers want to handle it, but someone earlier calculated, that I you want more than 13,333 switches, it's cheaper to at least order 20k and both switches almost hit that target (also the group buy still has some time to run).
Right. Any number between 13,333 and 20,000 the organizer would simply order 20,000, because it would cost the same, but people would still pay the higher price tier cost per switch, because the organizer still has to collect the money to pay for those 20,000 switches from the buyers. It doesn't affect the buyer until the 20k mark is reached with actual orders.
I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
Blues may, browns doubtful, but hwood has wrote something about a hidden card under his sleeve. Who knows.
Yes, in theory you could get a few extra switches with your order. But in reality, I would never expect the GB organizer to fulfill orders that way.But it would be cheaper in the end if the excess switches are distributed between the buyers, wouldn't it. Though, it would be quite some organizational work.I wonder if Blues and Browns are going to hit the 20k mark.
I don't know if the organizers want to handle it, but someone earlier calculated, that I you want more than 13,333 switches, it's cheaper to at least order 20k and both switches almost hit that target (also the group buy still has some time to run).
Right. Any number between 13,333 and 20,000 the organizer would simply order 20,000, because it would cost the same, but people would still pay the higher price tier cost per switch, because the organizer still has to collect the money to pay for those 20,000 switches from the buyers. It doesn't affect the buyer until the 20k mark is reached with actual orders.
I like the idea of selling the excess "free" switches for .20 each and using the proceeds to help GH. And I fully support a nice dinner for the GB organizers :thumb:If browns don't hit 20k, that's probably what'll end up happening
I like the idea of selling the excess "free" switches for .20 each and using the proceeds to help GH. And I fully support a nice dinner for the GB organizers :thumb:If browns don't hit 20k, that's probably what'll end up happening
(http://media.tumblr.com/4f91863cef40f19b7ac6c192d46667dc/tumblr_mnge0aKDRd1s3rh4zo1_500.gif)I like the idea of selling the excess "free" switches for .20 each and using the proceeds to help GH. And I fully support a nice dinner for the GB organizers :thumb:If browns don't hit 20k, that's probably what'll end up happening
You have to take pictures of your steak dinner.
I like the idea of selling the excess "free" switches for .20 each and using the proceeds to help GH. And I fully support a nice dinner for the GB organizers :thumb:If browns don't hit 20k, that's probably what'll end up happening
You have to take pictures of your steak dinner.Show Image(http://media.tumblr.com/4f91863cef40f19b7ac6c192d46667dc/tumblr_mnge0aKDRd1s3rh4zo1_500.gif)
Oh my.
While we're at it if browns hit 13,333+ would the cost per switch go down to .16c?
Oh my.
While we're at it if browns hit 13,333+ would the cost per switch go down to .16c?
No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works at all. Let me try to explain it more clearly.
Let's say hypothetically Blues were at 13,333 switches ordered. That's $3,200 collected for 13,333 switches at $0.24/ea.
For $3,200, hwood can order 20,000 switches (20,000 * $0.16). So hwood gets 20,000 switches - more than enough to fulfill the orders for 13,333.
But he can't SELL the 13,333 switches for $0.16/ea. That's only $2133.28. Not enough to order the 20,000 switches.
So, everyone saying he should sell the "extras" above 13,333 but less than 20,000 for $0.20/ea...are you okay with paying $0.24/ea, while the extras get sold for $0.20?
The only time the price drops to $0.16/ea FOR THE GB PARTICIPANTS is if, and only if, the switch orders total 20,000 for each type.
Grr no reds now? >:( That ruining my plans to make a variable force linear Gaterons.
220 clears and blacks! Too many good GBs going on lately!Haha, yeah... RIP wallet!
Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough :p :thumb:
Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough :thumb:
I'm sure that Shadovved can declare a lower value for the shipping. Every single keyboard related package I've gotten had lower values declared.Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough :thumb:
I'm sure that Shadovved can declare a lower value for the shipping. Every single keyboard related package I've gotten had lower values declared.Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enoughShow Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji14.png):thumb:
Grr no reds now? :mad: That ruining my plans to make a variable force linear Gaterons.Damn, that would be really cool. I'll see if I can round up some 45g switches and send em your way, I'd love to see a variable gate board ;D
Come on people. We need some brown orders. Keep the dream alive...Trust me, we'll get there, one way or another ;)
still fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.I tried, but I can not think of one. Everyone always needs more keyboards.
still fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.
In for 300 blacks :) Canceling Massdrop order. :thumb:good man :thumb:
+1still fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.I tried, but I can not think of one. Everyone always needs more keyboards.
still fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.
You definitely need to order like 1000 blacks. You'll be swapping out the switches in all your current builds. :D
that would do as well, need to hit dat 20kstill fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.
You definitely need to order like 1000 blacks. You'll be swapping out the switches in all your current builds. :D
:P, im less of a linear fan these days, i was thinking actually of putting in a large order of gaterade blues :)
still fighting myself on putting in a order. i don't need more keyboards. but if these are now down to 16 cents a switch. somebody please give me a reason not to buy these.
You definitely need to order like 1000 blacks. You'll be swapping out the switches in all your current builds. :D
:p , im less of a linear fan these days, i was thinking actually of putting in a large order of gaterade blues :)
Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough :thumb:
You can change, send a new order and pm Hwood34 to cancel the first one.Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough :thumb:
Im from Croatia, and the other guy is from Italy.
We both seem to have 23 eur limit for non-gift packages and 45 eur limit for gift packages.
But imagine the guy at the costums opening the package, and seeing individiual cherry mx switch price on the digikey/mouser, and taxing my package based on that price... :eek: That is why im still condsidering about ordering more... But I dont know how the package labelling will look like, will it be labeled as a gift and will the true price be indicated. :rolleyes:
Also we are still allowed to change our orders (its not 12th yet)... :rolleyes:
Do blues use gateron's 60g or 45g spring?60g
I realized I never found out for a fact.
You can change, send a new order and pm Hwood34 to cancel the first one.Ordered 150, just under the 22euros to avoid taxing (or atleast i hope i wont get taxed)...Where so you guys live? My import limit for not being taxed is 150€.
I also think that after this GB there will be more feedback about the gaterons,
and i hope there will be a next GB soon enough :thumb:
Im from Croatia, and the other guy is from Italy.
We both seem to have 23 eur limit for non-gift packages and 45 eur limit for gift packages.
But imagine the guy at the costums opening the package, and seeing individiual cherry mx switch price on the digikey/mouser, and taxing my package based on that price... :eek: That is why im still condsidering about ordering more... But I dont know how the package labelling will look like, will it be labeled as a gift and will the true price be indicated. :rolleyes:
Also we are still allowed to change our orders (its not 12th yet)... :rolleyes:
Will probably be declared with false value.
Huh? The form says 55g. hwood34?Do blues use gateron's 60g or 45g spring?60g
I realized I never found out for a fact.
Check the links in the Op guys.
So what do I need to order to approximate MX clears? I guess combine parts from two types, but which ones?no gaterons replicate mx clears, gateron browns are barely different from their cherry counterpart.
So what do I need to order to approximate MX clears? I guess combine parts from two types, but which ones?
So what do I need to order to approximate MX clears? I guess combine parts from two types, but which ones?
I don't think your going to get an MX Clear experience from any gateron switch without putting an MX Clear stem into one, which is exactly what I plan to do. I've got some old/used/vintage/aged/whatever MX clear stem that need a new home anyway.
So what do I need to order to approximate MX clears? I guess combine parts from two types, but which ones?
I don't think your going to get an MX Clear experience from any gateron switch without putting an MX Clear stem into one, which is exactly what I plan to do. I've got some old/used/vintage/aged/whatever MX clear stem that need a new home anyway.
Do you have some of those stems you may want to part with?
So what do I need to order to approximate MX clears? I guess combine parts from two types, but which ones?
I don't think your going to get an MX Clear experience from any gateron switch without putting an MX Clear stem into one, which is exactly what I plan to do. I've got some old/used/vintage/aged/whatever MX clear stem that need a new home anyway.
Do you have some of those stems you may want to part with?
Nope
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/)
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
- Kailh Black is a bit smoother than MX Black
- Gateron Black is even smoother than the Kailh
- Noppoo Black is even "scratchier" than MX Black
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/You misread that, The Gateron Blacks feel really smooth. Definitely better than MX Blacks.
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
I'm comparing feeling. Nickels can be found here (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xd0e0/keyboard_science_35_switches_tested/).Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/)
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
That's not what I read on your link:Quote
- Kailh Black is a bit smoother than MX Black
- Gateron Black is even smoother than the Kailh
- Noppoo Black is even "scratchier" than MX Black
Btw what aspects are you comparing the spring force or the feel?
I'm comparing feeling. Nickels can be found here (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xd0e0/keyboard_science_35_switches_tested/).Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/)
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
not what I read on your link:Quote
- Kailh Black is a bit smoother than MX Black
- Gateron Black is even smoother than the Kailh
- Noppoo Black is even "scratchier" than MX Black
Btw what aspects are you comparing the spring force or the feel?
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/You misread that, The Gateron Blacks feel really smooth. Definitely better than MX Blacks.
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/"First impressions: Gateron Blacks and Reds as well as Greetech Reds are super smooth."
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
I'm comparing feeling. Nickels can be found here (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xd0e0/keyboard_science_35_switches_tested/).Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/)
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
That's not what I read on your link:Quote
- Kailh Black is a bit smoother than MX Black
- Gateron Black is even smoother than the Kailh
- Noppoo Black is even "scratchier" than MX Black
Btw what aspects are you comparing the spring force or the feel?
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
The trays came with the set.Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/You misread that, The Gateron Blacks feel really smooth. Definitely better than MX Blacks.
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
What are those little trays you have the switches in??
Nickels on one single switch is not science. A better measurement would be the force curve, not simply the bottom out force.Yeah, I wish I had the tools to record some force graphs.
FWIW, I put 65g Korean springs in MX blacks with lube, and they definitely feel lighter than stock MX blacks. I don't have nickels to prove it, but they sure FEEL lighter. And the Gateron blacks feel very similar to that.
Nickels on one single switch is not science. A better measurement would be the force curve, not simply the bottom out force.
FWIW, I put 65g Korean springs in MX blacks with lube, and they definitely feel lighter than stock MX blacks. I don't have nickels to prove it, but they sure FEEL lighter. And the Gateron blacks feel very similar to that.
deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point
Nickels on one single switch is not science. A better measurement would be the force curve, not simply the bottom out force.
FWIW, I put 65g Korean springs in MX blacks with lube, and they definitely feel lighter than stock MX blacks. I don't have nickels to prove it, but they sure FEEL lighter. And the Gateron blacks feel very similar to that.
deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point
This is why I have a hard time understanding wlhlm's test that measured MX black at 65g bottom out. It really only takes 5g more force to bottom out the switch from actuation? It should be more like 15g.
Yeah, I wish I had the tools to record some force graphs.
Just to make it clear, I just compared the feeling. The measurements took someone else (wscarlton), who happened to post it at almost the same time.deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point
This is why I have a hard time understanding wlhlm's test that measured MX black at 65g bottom out. It really only takes 5g more force to bottom out the switch from actuation? It should be more like 15g.
I have seen some say 55g.Huh? The form says 55g. hwood34?Do blues use gateron's 60g or 45g spring?60g
I realized I never found out for a fact.
Check the links in the Op guys.
You need to keep the concepts separate also. Cherry MX has pressure point 60g, actuation point 50g and bottoms out at 60g ... using the same spring as Cherry MX Red which has actuation point at 45g.
Cherry MX switches are usually measured by force at pressure point. Cherry MX springs measured by force at actuation point as if in a linear switch, and korean springs measured by bottom-out force.
Does that mean that the statements about Ch. Clears not having a similar between Gs. is inaccurate?You mean similar weights? And yes, Gclears are substantially lighter than MX clears
Does that mean that the statements about Ch. Clears not having a similar between Gs. is inaccurate?You mean similar weights? And yes, Gclears are substantially lighter than MX clears
Can someone try something for me and tell me how strong the tops are as I just hulked my clear tops open just now after just finishing to solder all the leds in :XThey're more flexible and less brittle than the Abostudio ones
So can you tell me if they break easily or are they pretty solid? more like cherry tops :x
I'm sad now :c
Can someone try something for me and tell me how strong the tops are as I just hulked my clear tops open just now after just finishing to solder all the leds in :XThey're more flexible and less brittle than the Abostudio ones
So can you tell me if they break easily or are they pretty solid? more like cherry tops :x
I'm sad now :c
Just to make it clear, I just compared the feeling. The measurements took someone else (wscarlton), who happened to post it at almost the same time.deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point
This is why I have a hard time understanding wlhlm's test that measured MX black at 65g bottom out. It really only takes 5g more force to bottom out the switch from actuation? It should be more like 15g.
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.
I wonder if it's because we're just used to forums?...(I too can't make sense of it)...when does a new post arrive, where does it end up, top or bottom...what if it gets filtered...etc...it really is confusing. I wonder if it's because I'm 31, and a younger generation makes better sense of it? I dunno....anyhow, back to topic.
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.
I wonder if it's because we're just used to forums?...(I too can't make sense of it)...when does a new post arrive, where does it end up, top or bottom...what if it gets filtered...etc...it really is confusing. I wonder if it's because I'm 31, and a younger generation makes better sense of it? I dunno....anyhow, back to topic.
Treat it like a news feed. If you sort by "new" the latest posts will always be on top. If you are on the default "hot" tab you will see posts that are popular. If they are not relevant anymore (which is usually after a day) they disappear from the first Hot page and are getting pushed further back.
Same with the comments. You can sort by "Best", "new" etc. Where you can choose if you want the most upvoted comments on top or the latest ones.
Since each post will only get an exposure of a day or two it is very hard to keep a longer discussion running.
I am also bad at explaining things sorry.
edit: I am still not sure what I should buy oh god :confused:
DUDE!...that was a great help. I didn't even know you can do all that...There's just so many things going on, on the screen that it's over whelming sometimes...I guess I just have to give it a solid chance. Thanks for the explanation...that in itself helped a lot.
Just to make it clear, I just compared the feeling. The measurements took someone else (wscarlton), who happened to post it at almost the same time.deskhtority wiki which says that MX black are 60cN at actuation point
This is why I have a hard time understanding wlhlm's test that measured MX black at 65g bottom out. It really only takes 5g more force to bottom out the switch from actuation? It should be more like 15g.
Ah okay, good to know. The format of reddit makes my head hurt.
Awesome thank you both for answering this, might have to put another order in later tonight then :X just switch them all so I don't hulk them all out :cCan someone try something for me and tell me how strong the tops are as I just hulked my clear tops open just now after just finishing to solder all the leds in :XThey're more flexible and less brittle than the Abostudio ones
So can you tell me if they break easily or are they pretty solid? more like cherry tops :x
I'm sad now :c
Somewhere it is stated they are made of different plastics, being Abo's the one with less tensile strength that makes them more fragile therefore they may brake under pressure while being removed.
Reddit has the advantage over forums in that topics don't hang around for very long. It has the disadvantage that topics don't hang around for very long.Exactly.
If any more interested vendors would like to hop on, we could blast through the 0.16 MOQ for blues and browns :thumb:
TheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?
TheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?
alright, just sent them an emailTheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?
Bruce is the M.D. You can contact him at bruce@keyboardco.com.
Alternatively, maybe the vendor subforum?
alright, just sent them an emailTheKeyboardCompany said that they would look into stocking gaterons in their reddit ama, and someone linked to this thread.Yeah, saw that. Does anyone have a way I could get in contact with them other than by phone?
Bruce is the M.D. You can contact him at bruce@keyboardco.com.
Alternatively, maybe the vendor subforum?
If any more interested vendors would like to hop on, we could blast through the 0.16 MOQ for blues and browns :thumb:
Worth Noting: http://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2xcp6b/testing_all_the_clones/
Thought it's a bit dis-concerning to see that Gat. Blacks are = to MX Blacks...I might definitely have to change my order it that's the case...
According to this comparison the gateron browns are less tactile than the mx browns. I really want tactile and it is looking like I should probably hold out until I can get the MX clears at a reasonable price. End game board and all that. There was/is a Massdrop vote on keys that included a GB for cherry switches. I hope it comes to pass.
thanks for the link!
Ordered some. I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist. Thanks for running this!
Ordered some. I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist. Thanks for running this!
Ordered some. I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist. Thanks for running this!Is like sex, everybody has an opinion, but: The bad thing is you not trying it, the good thing is that you will enjoy it. :))
Ordered some. I've heard some good and bad things about Gaterons but prices are too good to resist. Thanks for running this!Is like sex, everybody has an opinion, but: The bad thing is you not trying it, the good thing is that you will enjoy it. :))
I have no clue what you're saying. I don't really have an opinion on these because I haven't had a chance to try one yet
How close to 20k?
Current Numbers:
Clears: 24,200
Blues: 17,000
Blacks: 25,000
Browns: 14,000
Also, if it's at all possible, I'd prefer to be contacted on Reddit since that will automatically notify my phone, versus on here where I pretty much just lurk as of yet.Try out the Tapatalk app, which should notify you for this forum as well.
Is it 20k overall or 20k for each type of switch?20k for each switch type.
Also I entered for 300, 150 blues and 150 browns. Might have to get a Phantom board and maybe an ErgoDox board set...
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and it'll give me a switch to replace the faulty space switch in my Das, which will be nice.
Also, if it's at all possible, I'd prefer to be contacted on Reddit since that will automatically notify my phone, versus on here where I pretty much just lurk as of yet.
can I up my blacks from 10 to 80?if it's under ten, any number is fine :thumb: done.
also if possible I'd like to get just one of all the others, but since you said to put it in 10's I put it down as such. If it's not possible then just 10 for all and 80 blacks.
great, thanks!can I up my blacks from 10 to 80?if it's under ten, any number is fine :thumb: done.
also if possible I'd like to get just one of all the others, but since you said to put it in 10's I put it down as such. If it's not possible then just 10 for all and 80 blacks.
So, I noticed that the shipping charges have changed. Are there rough estimates as to what we can expect at certain quantities? This could potentially change a lot of minds if it's a substantial difference.Nope, it's been 7-8 for a set since the beginning, I just made sure to specify that it would go up with bigger orders since people sometimes seem to lack common sense. And the prices really shouldn't drastically change between something like a 100 switch order and a 300 switch order, a few dollars at the most. But obviously people who are ordering like 1500 switches will pay a good bit more. But I don't think that'll come as a shock to anyone. I'll get some more exact estimates tonight though.
So, I noticed that the shipping charges have changed. Are there rough estimates as to what we can expect at certain quantities? This could potentially change a lot of minds if it's a substantial difference.Nope, it's been 7-8 for a set since the beginning, I just made sure to specify that it would go up with bugger orders since people sometimes seem to lack common sense. And the prices really shouldn't drastically change between something like a 100 switch order and a 300 switch order, a few dollars at the most. But obviously people who are ordering like 1500 switches will pay a good bit more. But I don't think that'll come as a shock to anyone. I'll get some more exact estimates tonight though.
Actually if at all possible I'd like to switch out (har har) my 150 Blues for 150 Clears. Keep the Browns though.
Realized I really am not that much of a fan of the clicky switches.
Actually if at all possible I'd like to switch out (har har) my 150 Blues for 150 Clears. Keep the Browns though.done :thumb: but yeah, in the future PMs are best, luckily I saw this though
Realized I really am not that much of a fan of the clicky switches.
Actually if at all possible I'd like to switch out (har har) my 150 Blues for 150 Clears. Keep the Browns though.done :thumb: but yeah, in the future PMs are best, luckily I saw this though
Realized I really am not that much of a fan of the clicky switches.
I read somewhere that the black, red, and clear gaterons have the same stem. Only difference is the spring in it.Well, yeah, since they're all linears, only difference in stem is the color. Though I'm not actually 100% that the plastic in clear stems is exactly the same
Anyone care to clarify that ? :D
So, Clears are 35g linear? I've seen mention that they are tactile, and have a bump like browns, but never actually seen the stem outside of the housing.
I was ready to jump in for some reds, but since they're not longer available, I'm thinking clears. But I'd really like to see the stems if anyone has done, or knows of a teardown of various colours.
In the Gaterons that I have for samples the Clears are smoother than Red and Black, even when I swapped it out with heavier springs.Even smoother than Gateron Reds/Blacks? I have Reds/Blacks and they are already super smooth. Why would they be different? Wouldn't it be cheaper to make Clear/Red/Black using the same mold and material and just change the color?
In the Gaterons that I have for samples the Clears are smoother than Red and Black, even when I swapped it out with heavier springs.Even smoother than Gateron Reds/Blacks? I have Reds/Blacks and they are already super smooth. Why would they be different? Wouldn't it be cheaper to make Clear/Red/Black using the same mold and material and just change the color?
I have some 62g springs kicking about, 35g is way to light for me.35g should be ~48g on the Korean scale. just so nobody confuses Korean spring weight vs Cherry spring weight
I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.
Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?
That and it's just as expensive to get a full switch as the clear switch tops.
I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.
Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?
I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.
OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers
I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.
Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?
I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.
OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers
I can't understand buying such light switches.
I guess it MIGHT have something to do with the (lack of) dyes used in the stem? that could MAYBE make them softer/smoother?
I guess it MIGHT have something to do with the (lack of) dyes used in the stem? that could MAYBE make them softer/smoother?
Matias originally intended to use orange dye in the quiet click but removed it as it affected the plastic's properties. however gaterons have dyed stems, just they have transparent casing.
about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?pm'd
about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?pm'd
I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.
Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?
I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.
OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers
I can't understand buying such light switches.
Does anyone have experience with using the top housing and stem of a gateron clear with the bottom housing of an mx switch compared to using the whole gateron switch? I am planning on putting some of these into my LZ and would potentially be able to avoid re-soldering.well, since the added smoothness is entirely from the stem and top housing, it should feel and work the same
Does anyone have experience with using the top housing and stem of a gateron clear with the bottom housing of an mx switch compared to using the whole gateron switch? I am planning on putting some of these into my LZ and would potentially be able to avoid re-soldering.well, since the added smoothness is entirely from the stem and top housing, it should feel and work the same
I just swapped out the stem and switch top between a Cherry Red and a Gateron Clear. In doing so, the switch with the Cherry bottom and original Red spring felt smoother than a typical Cherry Red.
well, since the added smoothness is entirely from the stem and top housing, it should feel and work the same
The declared amount for customs will default at either $20, or the actual amount if your order is less. PM Shadovved if you'd like to change the amount
about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?
about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?
Never received an invoice...did I miss something?
Invoices will selectively start to go out now, the bulk will start happening Friday. Orders will still be open til the 12th and you stilll have til the 16th to pay invoices.^
Also, a select few of you might be seeing shipping corrections around shipping time. We don't expect to have very many of these and are pretty confident with our current pricing, and the change shouldn't be more than $1 or so
Yeah, sorry, the whole mass invoicing thing is new to me, I missed some things the first time around. I forgot to add the GB fee the first time around, so most people should be seeing that changeAlso, a select few of you might be seeing shipping corrections around shipping time. We don't expect to have very many of these and are pretty confident with our current pricing, and the change shouldn't be more than $1 or so
I got an an increase of 3.5, for a total of 13.5 for shipping and processing and I only ordered 150 switches. Just to make sure is that what the average rate is for shipping to California?
Yeah, sorry, the whole mass invoicing thing is new to me, I missed some things the first time around. I forgot to add the GB fee the first time around, so most people should be seeing that changeAlso, a select few of you might be seeing shipping corrections around shipping time. We don't expect to have very many of these and are pretty confident with our current pricing, and the change shouldn't be more than $1 or so
I got an an increase of 3.5, for a total of 13.5 for shipping and processing and I only ordered 150 switches. Just to make sure is that what the average rate is for shipping to California?
about to pay the invoice. Anyway I can confirm my address before these get shipped out?
Never received an invoice...did I miss something?Invoices will selectively start to go out now, the bulk will start happening Friday. Orders will still be open til the 12th and you stilll have til the 16th to pay invoices.^
That's not strictly related to this GB but PayPal exchange rate is kinda "wow" : 1 EUR = 1,07269 USDHoly crap the eur is low
:eek:
That's not strictly related to this GB but PayPal exchange rate is kinda "wow" : 1 EUR = 1,07269 USDHoly crap the eur is low
:eek:
Done. Blacks are about to hit 30k :eek:. Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
If only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :eek:. Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
If only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :eek:. Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
If only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :eek:. Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
We are getting close to 100k total! =)
it drops from 0.99 yuan to 0.98, sooo a fraction of a cent :pIf only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :eek:. Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
We are getting close to 100k total! =)
Out of curiosity, what is the price break at 100k?
How long will this go on?
ThanksHow long will this go on?
It's in the OP.
I would imagine the 35g Clear Gaterons would be terrible on a board without O-Rings/Soft landing pads.
Maybe they would be better on a plateless board?
I think the general consensus is most people are buying them because they like the look and will swap a different spring into them. I'm not sure anyone plans on actually using them stock.
OR people need to learn to read and there will be many pissed off customers
I can't understand buying such light switches.
it drops from 0.99 yuan to 0.98, sooo a fraction of a cent :pIf only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :o . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
We are getting close to 100k total! =)
Out of curiosity, what is the price break at 100k?
it drops from 0.99 yuan to 0.98, sooo a fraction of a cent :pIf only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :o . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
We are getting close to 100k total! =)
Out of curiosity, what is the price break at 100k?
Haha not even worth. Could you imagine 100k switches delivered in your house/flat? Damn I hope you have some space left.
it drops from 0.99 yuan to 0.98, sooo a fraction of a cent :pIf only we were even at 100k total switches :pDone. Blacks are about to hit 30k :o . Too bad Gaterons next price tier is at 100k...
No problem! Just convert everyone's order to blacks ;)
We are getting close to 100k total! =)
Out of curiosity, what is the price break at 100k?
Haha not even worth. Could you imagine 100k switches delivered in your house/flat? Damn I hope you have some space left.
Cubic root of 100k is ≈ 47. A big square box of 4' sides would be enough to hold all those switches. At least theoretically. ;D
Do we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?
Invoice received and paid.Do we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?
fwiw my invoice said it had to be paid today.
got my invoice, but didn't see clear top covers listed, are those top covers supposed to be invoiced separately?
Invoice received and paid.Do we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?
fwiw my invoice said it had to be paid today.
You can pay a few days later, it's just that the default setting is to be paid on receipt.
I was just too lazy to change the setting :p
Invoice received and paid.Do we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?
fwiw my invoice said it had to be paid today.
You can pay a few days later, it's just that the default setting is to be paid on receipt.
I was just too lazy to change the setting :p
Ha fair enough, either way I've paid and looking forward to finishing my NERD60
Are we really gonna leave the blues hanging!?Even if it doesn't hit MOQ, I'll buy it up to 20k
Do we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?You can wait til the actual end date of the 16th
HiShould be changed shortly
Unfortunately i had to change my order (just sent the PM), could you update my invoice?
Thank you
Are we really gonna leave the blues hanging!?Even if it doesn't hit MOQ, I'll buy it up to 20kDo we have 4 days from receiving invoice, or can I wait until the actual end date?You can wait til the actual end date of the 16thHiShould be changed shortly
Unfortunately i had to change my order (just sent the PM), could you update my invoice?
Thank you
For all questions about invoicing, PM Shadovved, unless you got one of the invoices from me. Also, you have until the 16th to pay your invoice regardless of what the invoice says
And if need be, I will buy the Blues up to the 20k mark so buy without worry!
And if need be, I will buy the Blues up to the 20k mark so buy without worry!Same for browns or not?
For all questions about invoicing, PM Shadovved, unless you got one of the invoices from me. Also, you have until the 16th to pay your invoice regardless of what the invoice says
And if need be, I will buy the Blues up to the 20k mark so buy without worry!
I don't think I could manage to buy the 5k needed to bump itAnd if need be, I will buy the Blues up to the 20k mark so buy without worry!Same for browns or not?
Nevertheless, just paid my invoice. Now just waiting!
Just got my invoice and shipping is more than double what was posted in the OP???
Just got my invoice and shipping is more than double what was posted in the OP???
Just got my invoice and shipping is more than double what was posted in the OP???
Same, but i ordered 340 switches and 220 clear housing tops. Shipping was just under $40.00. I guess that's reasonable given that shipping was 7-8* for about 100 switches. I was not expecting to different to be so high but I'm ok with it.
well, the shipping price is reduced, but it will still cost a decent amount to ship all of thatJust got my invoice and shipping is more than double what was posted in the OP???
Same, but i ordered 340 switches and 220 clear housing tops. Shipping was just under $40.00. I guess that's reasonable given that shipping was 7-8* for about 100 switches. I was not expecting to different to be so high but I'm ok with it.
Ah I've got 140 switches and 140 covers. Seems like the op in the clear switch thread states that they will be shipped together, which I figured would cut down on shipping costs. Apparently not.
Came out to $.25 a switch for me, not bad.
Well, the 0.25 obviously includes shipping. For MD, it was 0.33 without shipping, and remember that their international shipping prices are absolutely horrendous. Even for someone conus, their price would come out to $0.4/switchCame out to $.25 a switch for me, not bad.
Yeah, but that makes it not THAT much cheaper than MD...they were fairly reasonable too...
Well, the 0.25 obviously includes shipping. For MD, it was 0.33 without shipping, and remember that their international shipping prices are absolutely horrendous. Even for someone conus, their price would come out to $0.4/switchCame out to $.25 a switch for me, not bad.
Yeah, but that makes it not THAT much cheaper than MD...they were fairly reasonable too...
On my invoice, Shadovved just said **** it, I'll bill you the shipping later. ;Douch, have fun with that :p
1000 switches + a few tops = $$ shipping
Hi my invoice number is SS-0128pm shadovved for questions about invoice :thumb: And when it said order in 10s, it meant try to order amounts like 100/80/20, not literally the multiple of ten you'd like, though it seems that was a common mistake
I should have ordered 200 clear switch tops, 100 clears, 100 blues, 100 blacks.
But I was only invoiced 20, 10, 10 and 10
Now do I open a new order? Or can you change my current order?
Thanks!
So if people are getting invoiced, I guess we need to go into crazy mode to get the browns to 20k? I can another couple hundred to my order, but I am going to need some help on this.
We got over for blacks and blues, not for browns. We're really close on bluesSo if people are getting invoiced, I guess we need to go into crazy mode to get the browns to 20k? I can another couple hundred to my order, but I am going to need some help on this.
I got billed 70 black and 70 brown for 0.16 each. I guess we went over?
Hi my invoice number is SS-0128pm shadovved for questions about invoice :thumb: And when it said order in 10s, it meant try to order amounts like 100/80/20, not literally the multiple of ten you'd like, though it seems that was a common mistake
I should have ordered 200 clear switch tops, 100 clears, 100 blues, 100 blacks.
But I was only invoiced 20, 10, 10 and 10
Now do I open a new order? Or can you change my current order?
Thanks!
We got over for blacks and blues, not for browns. We're really close on bluesSo if people are getting invoiced, I guess we need to go into crazy mode to get the browns to 20k? I can another couple hundred to my order, but I am going to need some help on this.
I got billed 70 black and 70 brown for 0.16 each. I guess we went over?
So if people are getting invoiced, I guess we need to go into crazy mode to get the browns to 20k? I can another couple hundred to my order, but I am going to need some help on this.
We got over for blacks and blues, not for browns. We're really close on bluesSo if people are getting invoiced, I guess we need to go into crazy mode to get the browns to 20k? I can another couple hundred to my order, but I am going to need some help on this.
I got billed 70 black and 70 brown for 0.16 each. I guess we went over?
@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
I'll be sure to talk to shadovved about it, but that is a great idea@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
Ya, if hwood34 doesn't mind invoicing me last and making the adjustment to reduce my order down to what is needed to get us to $0.16, that could work pretty well...
I'll be sure to talk to shadovved about it, but that is a great idea@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
Ya, if hwood34 doesn't mind invoicing me last and making the adjustment to reduce my order down to what is needed to get us to $0.16, that could work pretty well...
The count in the OP is accurate as of today. I'll get him to update the count :thumb:I'll be sure to talk to shadovved about it, but that is a great idea@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
Ya, if hwood34 doesn't mind invoicing me last and making the adjustment to reduce my order down to what is needed to get us to $0.16, that could work pretty well...
Alright, talk to shadovved and make sure that is something we can do. Also, if you can give me an updated count and I will add that amount to my order and then we can go from there. Make sense?
I'll be sure to talk to shadovved about it, but that is a great idea@swill, order the 4000 switches, and once they hit $0.16, more people will buy them. Then adjust down at the invoice due date. :D
Ya, if hwood34 doesn't mind invoicing me last and making the adjustment to reduce my order down to what is needed to get us to $0.16, that could work pretty well...
Alright, talk to shadovved and make sure that is something we can do. Also, if you can give me an updated count and I will add that amount to my order and then we can go from there. Make sense?
I have just edited my order and added another 4000 browns to make sure that we get the $0.16 price point for that switch.Awesome! Thanks a bunch man, really helps :thumb: PM'd
Please feel free to add more browns to your order now that you know they will be at the lower price point. I have sorted out with Shadovved that I will reduce my order at the end to keep us at this price point, but reduce the amount of extra switches I am ordering. I have ordered almost 5,000 switches right now, so if I can get that down by 1k or 2k, my wallet would appreciate it. :)
I have just edited my order and added another 4000 browns to make sure that we get the $0.16 price point for that switch.Awesome! Thanks a bunch man, really helps :thumb: PM'd
Please feel free to add more browns to your order now that you know they will be at the lower price point. I have sorted out with Shadovved that I will reduce my order at the end to keep us at this price point, but reduce the amount of extra switches I am ordering. I have ordered almost 5,000 switches right now, so if I can get that down by 1k or 2k, my wallet would appreciate it. :)
I have just edited my order and added another 4000 browns to make sure that we get the $0.16 price point for that switch.Awesome! Thanks a bunch man, really helps :thumb: PM'd
Please feel free to add more browns to your order now that you know they will be at the lower price point. I have sorted out with Shadovved that I will reduce my order at the end to keep us at this price point, but reduce the amount of extra switches I am ordering. I have ordered almost 5,000 switches right now, so if I can get that down by 1k or 2k, my wallet would appreciate it. :)
I've already been invoiced...any chance I can add to my order? Not a problem if not...just thought I would try to help swill out.
yup, just PM shadovvedI have just edited my order and added another 4000 browns to make sure that we get the $0.16 price point for that switch.Awesome! Thanks a bunch man, really helps :thumb: PM'd
Please feel free to add more browns to your order now that you know they will be at the lower price point. I have sorted out with Shadovved that I will reduce my order at the end to keep us at this price point, but reduce the amount of extra switches I am ordering. I have ordered almost 5,000 switches right now, so if I can get that down by 1k or 2k, my wallet would appreciate it. :)
I've already been invoiced...any chance I can add to my order?
For problems or questions regarding invoices, please PM Shadovved
For all questions about invoicing, PM Shadovved, unless you got one of the invoices from me. Also, you have until the 16th to pay your invoice regardless of what the invoice says
And if need be, I will buy the Blues up to the 20k mark so buy without worry!
I can't remember if I changed my order or not... and then I payed the invoice... anyway to see what I've ordered?shoot shadovved a PM :thumb:
Just as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $Just as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in an invoice for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?
Just received some springs to swap those clears with ;D What are your plans with the clears?Where did you buy springs?
Just received some springs to swap those clears with ;D What are your plans with the clears?Where did you buy springs?
Thanks, will check out.Just received some springs to swap those clears with ;D What are your plans with the clears?Where did you buy springs?
I got them from ZealPC store. He seems a nice guy and the shipping was truly fast (considering I'm in Europe).
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $12 shippingJust as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in an invoice for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?
Just as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in a request for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?
Damn this GB brought a lot of new people to GH! :D
Well done Hwood and Shadovved on organizing this. I might not own an MX board ever again but I may take some switches just in case!
Woo, first post! Just making a note that I just put in a form for 100 blacks. It's really quite interesting seeing how the interest in Gaterons has exploded over the last few months.
Also thanks hwood34 and Shadovved for running this! :D
At first I was kinda upset that all the extra fees and such came out towards the end of the GB. But hey, ultimately you've got to realize that it's hwood's first time. At the end of the day, you still can't find a better price. The difference in my order was ~22 usd....
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $12 shipping
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $12 shippingJust as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in an invoice for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $12 shippingJust as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in an invoice for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?
Wait, then why am I being charged $23.00 shipping for 280?
Because it's Hwood's first GB, it was thrown together just to spite MD and because of that, a LOT of things were over looked.
Because it's Hwood's first GB, it was thrown together just to spite MD and because of that, a LOT of things were over looked. For example, he hadn't taken into account the shipping fee from Gateron TO Shadovved. But, it's all a part of the GB. To be honest, I was expecting to lose my money on this, if I get my switches, I'll be VERY happy.
Edit: Want another oversight? What happens when people don't actually commit? I mean I could have put in an order for 1300 switches, but if I get my invoice and think...."Screw that, I'm not paying that much in shipping" or if I had a specific budget in mind (which I actually did) and back out...and we hit below the 20k mark...what happens then? Does HWood pick up the slack?
Because it's Hwood's first GB, it was thrown together just to spite MD and because of that, a LOT of things were over looked. For example, he hadn't taken into account the shipping fee from Gateron TO Shadovved. But, it's all a part of the GB. To be honest, I was expecting to lose my money on this, if I get my switches, I'll be VERY happy.
Edit: Want another oversight? What happens when people don't actually commit? I mean I could have put in an order for 1300 switches, but if I get my invoice and think...."Screw that, I'm not paying that much in shipping" or if I had a specific budget in mind (which I actually did) and back out...and we hit below the 20k mark...what happens then? Does HWood pick up the slack?
So much wrong in this comment. hwood has been working on this for a while now, you need to get your **** straight before you start posting non-sense like this.
I PM'd both Shadovved and Hwood to cancel my order and invoice. You guys suck and I don't want to be associated with this any more. Just kidding, I will resubmit a new much larger order, try to help out Swill with the browns especially.Same here! I ordered another 300 Browns!!! LEGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :p
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $12 shipping
Wait, then why am I being charged $23.00 shipping for 280?
Because it's Hwood's first GB, it was thrown together just to spite MD and because of that, a LOT of things were over looked. For example, he hadn't taken into account the shipping fee from Gateron TO Shadovved. But, it's all a part of the GB. To be honest, I was expecting to lose my money on this, if I get my switches, I'll be VERY happy.
Edit: Want another oversight? What happens when people don't actually commit? I mean I could have put in an order for 1300 switches, but if I get my invoice and think...."Screw that, I'm not paying that much in shipping" or if I had a specific budget in mind (which I actually did) and back out...and we hit below the 20k mark...what happens then? Does HWood pick up the slack?
Hwood put much effort into this, this aint a last minute slip-shod event you looking at here.
We roughly agreed on the shipping rates, but it's not $12 for 200 odd switches
I PM'd both Shadovved and Hwood to cancel my order and invoice. You guys suck and I don't want to be associated with this any more. Just kidding, I will resubmit a new much larger order, try to help out Swill with the browns especially.Same here! I ordered another 300 Browns!!! LEGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :p
I PM'd both Shadovved and Hwood to cancel my order and invoice. You guys suck and I don't want to be associated with this any more. Just kidding, I will resubmit a new much larger order, try to help out Swill with the browns especially.Same here! I ordered another 300 Browns!!! LEGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :p
Love you guys!
Apparently my shipping would be 60$.. that's for 100$ of switches.
Doesn't that sound excessive?
my shipping was half the cost of my order - $64 for 400 switches (100 of each) and $32 for shipping. that being said 100 bucks for 400 switches seems reasonable
Apparently my shipping would be 60$.. that's for 100$ of switches.
Doesn't that sound excessive?
ITT: People who have never shipped internationally and who don't understand that there are weight and size limits on different kinds of shipping.Apparently my shipping would be 60$.. that's for 100$ of switches.
Doesn't that sound excessive?
$100 worth of switches is 625 switches. Even at $160 for all of them, that's $0.25 a switch, still a damn good price.
As for the shipping cost, that's completely reasonable for the weight of the package. Assuming a similar weight to MX, it should be somewhere between 1400g and 2000g, depending on packaging and switch weight variance. If I remember correctly, Shadovved is shipping out of Singapore. The cheapest shipping via Singapore post works out to $51USD, that's before packaging costs and PayPal fees, which can easily make up most of the difference. There's maybe $1-2 for him sorting everything out for you.
Did it hurt a little when I got hit with a $23 (or something around there) shipping charge on 200 switches and 80 switch tops? It sure did, especially since I'm used to US shipping, but it's a more than reasonable shipping price for the weight and given that it's international.
Hwood put much effort into this, this aint a last minute slip-shod event you looking at here.
We roughly agreed on the shipping rates, but it's not $12 for 200 odd switches
If so much effort was put in, why aren't you two on the same page?
I PM'd both Shadovved and Hwood to cancel my order and invoice. You guys suck and I don't want to be associated with this any more. Just kidding, I will resubmit a new much larger order, try to help out Swill with the browns especially.
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $Just as an aside, $24 is a lot for shipping! I don't know how much space 300 switches occupies in loose form but I would imagine it could fit quite nicely in a USPS Flat Rate box.
Regardless, ~$79 is a good price for 3+ keyboards worth of switches and should keep me well occupied. Hell, maybe I'll turn this MX blue Das in to a Gateron Clear Das...
Can't wait to get busy with the iron!
so it seems the $7-8/100 switches in the OP holds true
If I were to send in an invoice for 200 gateron blacks will I be looking at: $0.16*200 + $8*2 + $3.50 (handling) = $51.50?1216 shipping
edit: sry typo
ITT: People who have never shipped internationally and who don't understand that there are weight and size limits on different kinds of shipping.thisApparently my shipping would be 60$.. that's for 100$ of switches.
Doesn't that sound excessive?
$100 worth of switches is 625 switches. Even at $160 for all of them, that's $0.25 a switch, still a damn good price.
As for the shipping cost, that's completely reasonable for the weight of the package. Assuming a similar weight to MX, it should be somewhere between 1400g and 2000g, depending on packaging and switch weight variance. If I remember correctly, Shadovved is shipping out of Singapore. The cheapest shipping via Singapore post works out to $51USD, that's before packaging costs and PayPal fees, which can easily make up most of the difference. There's maybe $1-2 for him sorting everything out for you.
Did it hurt a little when I got hit with a $23 (or something around there) shipping charge on 200 switches and 80 switch tops? It sure did, especially since I'm used to US shipping, but it's a more than reasonable shipping price for the weight and given that it's international.
1. March 16th payment deadline, transferring the money to Gateron, getting the shipment FROM Gateron to Shadovved, sorting and packaging, and still quote an April 1/2 ship date? Does that actually sound realistic to you guys?That was the quote I was given
2. 7-8 shipping at first (without stating that it would be more for higher quantities in the first place)?
I definitely hope this GB goes through without further bumps, if for no other reason, for swill's sake haha...but seriously? I'd rather all this be worked out now before I submit my money rather than have another GH60 happen.I physically don't see how we could mess up enough to turn this into another GH60 :p
what happened with the GH60?
Can we get an update of the order counts for the different switches? ;)
Browns: 20,300;)
what happened with the GH60?
what happened with the GH60?
Better read the GH60 GB topic, it has all the drama involved.
There is no reason to referred that here, it may confuse people not aware of that drama.
1. March 16th payment deadline, transferring the money to Gateron, getting the shipment FROM Gateron to Shadovved, sorting and packaging, and still quote an April 1/2 ship date? Does that actually sound realistic to you guys?That was the quote I was given2. 7-8 shipping at first (without stating that it would be more for higher quantities in the first place)?The fact that it costs more to ship more stuff just kinda seemed like a common sense thing to me, but just to make sure:anything more will be calculatedI definitely hope this GB goes through without further bumps, if for no other reason, for swill's sake haha...but seriously? I'd rather all this be worked out now before I submit my money rather than have another GH60 happen.I physically don't see how we could mess up enough to turn this into another GH60 :p
well, I edited my post to reflect my confusal of what he was talking about, but I guess my original sentiment stands here. I'm not sure how many people thought that they would still be paying $8 to ship 400 switches from Singapore to Brazil, but, as evidenced by the number of unpaid invoices, it's a very small number1. March 16th payment deadline, transferring the money to Gateron, getting the shipment FROM Gateron to Shadovved, sorting and packaging, and still quote an April 1/2 ship date? Does that actually sound realistic to you guys?That was the quote I was given2. 7-8 shipping at first (without stating that it would be more for higher quantities in the first place)?The fact that it costs more to ship more stuff just kinda seemed like a common sense thing to me, but just to make sure:anything more will be calculatedI definitely hope this GB goes through without further bumps, if for no other reason, for swill's sake haha...but seriously? I'd rather all this be worked out now before I submit my money rather than have another GH60 happen.I physically don't see how we could mess up enough to turn this into another GH60 :p
You can keep saying that we should have known that shipping would be more expensive for more switches, but originally it was "$7-8 worldwide" with no mention of price hikes for larger quantities. I guess you'll figure it out when you notice how many invoices go unpaid. I know I was pretty shocked to see that my $44 worth of switches cost me $70.
2. 7-8 shipping at first (without stating that it would be more for higher quantities in the first place)?The fact that it costs more to ship more stuff just kinda seemed like a common sense thing to me, but just to make sure:anything more will be calculated
well, it's not exactly $7-8/100. 200 switches is $1216 shipping
edit: sry typo
I'm not sure how many people thought that they would still be paying $8 to ship 400 switches from Singapore to Brazil, but, as evidenced by the number of unpaid invoices, it's a very small number
We have been marking browns as 0.16 for all invoices, so there shouldn't be any need for correctionI'm not sure how many people thought that they would still be paying $8 to ship 400 switches from Singapore to Brazil, but, as evidenced by the number of unpaid invoices, it's a very small numberSo what happens now the Browns have broken the 20k limit? People who already paid their invoices are compensated with the 0.24 vs 0.16 p/switch price difference? *I didn't get any browns, but just curious
I'm not sure how many people thought that they would still be paying $8 to ship 400 switches from Singapore to Brazil, but, as evidenced by the number of unpaid invoices, it's a very small number
^ that. I took the original statement of $7~8 / 100 switches as "okay, so 200 is ~`$16, 300 is ~$24 etc... seemed utterly logical to me when it concerns shipping internationally, which is all weight-based.
I guess it's the same as when microwave manufacturers 'forget' to specify in the manual "to not put live animals in the unit" they are liable to get sued by people who've microwaved their cats...
So what happens now the Browns have broken the 20k limit? People who already paid their invoices are compensated with the 0.24 vs 0.16 p/switch price difference? *I didn't get any browns, but just curious
1. March 16th payment deadline, transferring the money to Gateron, getting the shipment FROM Gateron to Shadovved, sorting and packaging, and still quote an April 1/2 ship date? Does that actually sound realistic to you guys?That was the quote I was given
I'm not sure how many people thought that they would still be paying $8 to ship 400 switches from Singapore to Brazil, but, as evidenced by the number of unpaid invoices, it's a very small number
^ that. I took the original statement of $7~8 / 100 switches as "okay, so 200 is ~`$16, 300 is ~$24 etc... seemed utterly logical to me when it concerns shipping internationally, which is all weight-based.
I guess it's the same as when microwave manufacturers 'forget' to specify in the manual "to not put live animals in the unit" they are liable to get sued by people who've microwaved their cats...
So what happens now the Browns have broken the 20k limit? People who already paid their invoices are compensated with the 0.24 vs 0.16 p/switch price difference? *I didn't get any browns, but just curious
If only we were all as logical as you were. I mean, it's not like there are almost 200 countries in the world...we should all know the standards of shipping just like you do, right? I'd help you get off of your high horse, but...I'm sure your utter logic will help you down.
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Not everyone knows these things. It's not common knowledge. Just like if I were to ask you what SWR means...you wouldn't know, but a person into antenna design would.
Another example is the following...1. March 16th payment deadline, transferring the money to Gateron, getting the shipment FROM Gateron to Shadovved, sorting and packaging, and still quote an April 1/2 ship date? Does that actually sound realistic to you guys?That was the quote I was given
So were we...we were told shipping would be $7-8, right? How is someone supposed to deduce any more details from that? Use all the logic in the world, but the fact of the matter is...it's not so logical when so many people have the same sentiment I do. That's it.
You want to see the lack of communication?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/zcHEDAN.png)
Tell me again about your logic? I mean, April 1st clearly means 16th, right? It's utterly logical...give me a break. Has your horse gotten a bit shorter yet?
This may have been asked before, but can anyone speak as to how the Gateron browns compare to Cherry Clears? Thanks a bunch for doing this GB.Have you checked the links in the OP regarding the gateron impressions? You might fond your answer there.
I guess it's the same as when microwave manufacturers 'forget' to specify in the manual "to not put live animals in the unit" they are liable to get sued by people who've microwaved their cats...
If you were to ask what SWR meant and I was BUYING AN ANTENNA, then sure, maybe your example would make sense. No point in brining that up in this case.
I guess it's the same as when microwave manufacturers 'forget' to specify in the manual "to not put live animals in the unit" they are liable to get sued by people who've microwaved their cats...If you were to ask what SWR meant and I was BUYING AN ANTENNA, then sure, maybe your example would make sense. No point in brining that up in this case.
Right, so, how many watts is the microwave that you plan on buying?
:confused:I guess it's the same as when microwave manufacturers 'forget' to specify in the manual "to not put live animals in the unit" they are liable to get sued by people who've microwaved their cats...If you were to ask what SWR meant and I was BUYING AN ANTENNA, then sure, maybe your example would make sense. No point in brining that up in this case.
Right, so, how many watts is the microwave that you plan on buying?
This may have been asked before, but can anyone speak as to how the Gateron browns compare to Cherry Clears? Thanks a bunch for doing this GB.
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Juts paid the invoice, thanks for this great GB! Do we know yet which delivery service will be used to post from Singpost? (Just want to estimate how long my wait will be :) )Wouldn't a surprise be nice?
Juts paid the invoice, thanks for this great GB! Do we know yet which delivery service will be used to post from Singpost? (Just want to estimate how long my wait will be :) )registered airmail
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Back in the 90's Motley Crüe had a great song that said "Girl, don't go away mad; girl, just go away." I think the same applies here.
You're not doing yourself any favors here. You've said your piece. People get that you think it's unreasonable for you to be expected to know where Singapore is and to be flexible because this is a Group Buy and not a transaction with some store somewhere. That's fine for you to think thus, and also fine for most people to not agree with you.
What's not fine is to come here and be rude and berate people who are serving the community.
If you don't want to pay the shipping fee, cancel your order and don't post here anymore.
If only we were all as logical as you were. I mean, it's not like there are almost 200 countries in the world...we should all know the standards of shipping just like you do, right? I'd help you get off of your high horse, but...I'm sure your utter logic will help you down.
Not everyone knows these things. It's not common knowledge. Just like if I were to ask you what SWR means...you wouldn't know, but a person into antenna design would.
Shipping is something not everyone knows everything about, so if you want to know because you are confused on why the cost is what it is, then ask or do some research.
we were told shipping would be $7-8, right? How is someone supposed to deduce any more details from that? Use all the logic in the world, but the fact of the matter is...it's not so logical when so many people have the same sentiment I do. That's it.
You want to see the lack of communication?
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Tell me again about your logic? I mean, April 1st clearly means 16th, right? It's utterly logical...give me a break. Has your horse gotten a bit shorter yet?
I'd like to know when this is going to ship, but you can't just come and be like "look at all these 'errors' in this GB. Look! The dates don't match either! They're so bad!"
Just stop trying to start something. If you want to get to the bottom of things and make things clear, do it in a civil manner.
1200 watts. Not buying a new one though.
Expecting that any order would have that shipping is not a lack of knowledge, it's a lack of reading, since the the opening post states it would be $7~$8 per 100 switches.I believe that a few days ago it said "Shipping for 0-around 200 switches will be around $7-8 worldwide no matter where since it's being shipped out of Singapore; anything more will be calculated." (emphasis mine)
hardwood said he'll buy the rest of Blues required to hit 20k, don't worry about ityessir, though with almost a week left, I'm confident we can hit it.
whoops sry, i totally meant softwoodcoincidentally, my name for pretty much all of 9th grade
AKA F**k Off :))Blah blah blah
Back in the 90's Motley Crüe had a great song that said "Girl, don't go away mad; girl, just go away." I think the same applies here.
You're not doing yourself any favors here. You've said your piece. People get that you think it's unreasonable for you to be expected to know where Singapore is and to be flexible because this is a Group Buy and not a transaction with some store somewhere. That's fine for you to think thus, and also fine for most people to not agree with you.
What's not fine is to come here and be rude and berate people who are serving the community.
If you don't want to pay the shipping fee, cancel your order and don't post here anymore.
Haven't joined this GB. Still thinking what switches to get for my upcoming Smallfry JD40(till whoever wants to buy it from me...).If it's very local, he's allowing people to do local pickups. Other than that, I'm not sure about shipping costs within Singapore
Anyhow, just a question, how is the shipping estimate going to be like if it's local? Same as that of international?
For anyone interested or concerned, I put the shipping pricing guidelines in the OP
sorry, just noticed that. for some reason one of the more expensive ones is highlighted, but I made a note of the service we're usingFor anyone interested or concerned, I put the shipping pricing guidelines in the OP
Ok thanks. So it's S$70 for up to 300? Did I read that right?
For anyone interested or concerned, I put the shipping pricing guidelines in the OP
Ok thanks. So it's S$70 for up to 300? Did I read that right?
Haven't joined this GB. Still thinking what switches to get for my upcoming Smallfry JD40(till whoever wants to buy it from me...).If it's very local, he's allowing people to do local pickups. Other than that, I'm not sure about shipping costs within Singapore
Anyhow, just a question, how is the shipping estimate going to be like if it's local? Same as that of international?
Haven't joined this GB. Still thinking what switches to get for my upcoming Smallfry JD40(till whoever wants to buy it from me...).If it's very local, he's allowing people to do local pickups. Other than that, I'm not sure about shipping costs within Singapore
Anyhow, just a question, how is the shipping estimate going to be like if it's local? Same as that of international?
When you're in Singapore, everything is local. It's 277 sq mi, which mean's it's approximately a 16.75mi x16.75mi area.
And welcome to geekhack!
sorry, just noticed that. for some reason one of the more expensive ones is highlighted, but I made a note of the service we're usingFor anyone interested or concerned, I put the shipping pricing guidelines in the OP
Ok thanks. So it's S$70 for up to 300? Did I read that right?
TThank you for the guidelines/pointing me in the right direction to answer my questions.
All the prices on singpost.com are in SGD. Shipping 280 keycaps (560g per OP calculation) to the United States costs 20.20 SGD + plus 2.50 SGD for tracking, 22.70 SGD total. Shadovved is charging me for 23.00 for shipping. Okay, rounding up, fine. But, wait, he's charging me 23.00 USD not SGD. What's the conversion rate for SGD to USD? ... Asking Google, 22.70 SGD is 16.47 USD.
Did you guys overlook conversion rates? It makes a pretty big difference.
TThank you for the guidelines/pointing me in the right direction to answer my questions.
All the prices on singpost.com are in SGD. Shipping 280 keycaps (560g per OP calculation) to the United States costs 20.20 SGD + plus 2.50 SGD for tracking, 22.70 SGD total. Shadovved is charging me for 23.00 for shipping. Okay, rounding up, fine. But, wait, he's charging me 23.00 USD not SGD. What's the conversion rate for SGD to USD? ... Asking Google, 22.70 SGD is 16.47 USD.
Did you guys overlook conversion rates? It makes a pretty big difference.
Alright, since people still don't get shipping, let's work this out.
- Straight shipping cost ~$16.47. Of course, Paypal often lowballs the conversion rate, so it may be closer to $19
- Packaging cost - ~$3. Everyone seems to think that packaging is free. Shadovved has to buy boxes, bubble wrap, tape, labels, and other associated shipping materials. This easily hits $3 a package.
- Paypal fees. Since we're now at ~$20 in shipping cost, we now have to calculate Paypal fees. Paypal is adding a currency conversion fee and their own fee on top of this cost. That works out to ~$1.50-2.
- The total is now at ~$21-22 with materials cost and paypal fees. The additional $1-2 is a sorting fee.
TL;DR: Shipping costs are beyond fair, stop being a ***** and just ****ing pay the man already. Grow the **** up people and realize that shipping international is never going to be $10 unless you get something that's under 4oz.
Edit: Sorry if this offends someone, but I'm just fed up with the bull**** with people *****ing about shipping costs. Just deal with it and move on. Even with the international shipping you're getting a great price on these.
Around 20 for international shipping looks pretty normal.
Darn, looks like interest in the blues plateaued and now browns are at 20k. Darn me changing my order to only blues. I don't wanna bug hwood to change my order anymore though. :(
Thank you for the guidelines/pointing me in the right direction to answer my questions.
All the prices on singpost.com are in SGD. Shipping 280 keycaps (560g per OP calculation) to the United States costs 20.20 SGD + plus 2.50 SGD for tracking, 22.70 SGD total. Shadovved is charging me for 23.00 for shipping. Okay, rounding up, fine. But, wait, he's charging me 23.00 USD not SGD. What's the conversion rate for SGD to USD? ... Asking Google, 22.70 SGD is 16.47 USD.
Did you guys overlook conversion rates? It makes a pretty big difference.
Alright, since people still don't get shipping, let's work this out.
- Straight shipping cost ~$16.47. Of course, Paypal often lowballs the conversion rate, so it may be closer to $19
- Packaging cost - ~$3. Everyone seems to think that packaging is free. Shadovved has to buy boxes, bubble wrap, tape, labels, and other associated shipping materials. This easily hits $3 a package.
- Paypal fees. Since we're now at ~$20 in shipping cost, we now have to calculate Paypal fees. Paypal is adding a currency conversion fee and their own fee on top of this cost. That works out to ~$1.50-2.
- The total is now at ~$21-22 with materials cost and paypal fees. The additional $1-2 is a sorting fee.
TL;DR: Shipping costs are beyond fair, stop being a ***** and just ****ing pay the man already. Grow the **** up people and realize that shipping international is never going to be $10 unless you get something that's under 4oz.
Subtotal $48.30
Shipping/handling $23.00
PayPal Fee (3.9%) $2.79
Total $74.09 USD
That's nice and all, but the op said $7-8 shipping worldwide with no mention of variable rates or tracking fees. We were also charged the paypal fee so you can edit that bit out.
When you buy your tampons at wally-world they don't double the advertised price and tell you to get f***ed when you ask about it.
That's nice and all, but the op said $7-8 shipping worldwide with no mention of variable rates or tracking fees. We were also charged the paypal fee so you can edit that bit out.
When you buy your tampons at wally-world they don't double the advertised price and tell you to get f***ed when you ask about it.
It originally said $7-8 per 100 switches. Let's see, 2.8*$7 = $19.60 + $2.50 tracking = $22.10. 2.8*$8 = $22.40 +$2.50 tracking = $25.90. Average them and it's $24. That's more than the $23 being charged.
If you thought it would be $7-8 to ship more than 200 switches, two things happened. First, you had poor reading comprehension. Second, you had to think you were getting the deal of the century. I have never in my life had something that weighed more than 2oz cost more $8 or less to ship internationally. Anything over 2oz is a minimum of $15.
Packaging cost, fair - put it in the guideline then. However, your assertion it easily hits $3.00/package is bull****. They're going with "Standard Regular Mail - Letters/Printed Papers/Small Packets (AIR)" which limits them to padded envelopes.
USPS provides those for free as part of the cost. SingPost may not provide the same service but Amazon tells me I can get 100 of them for $10. No tape necessary. No paper. No scissors, even. Labels are a convenience, sure, but they're hardly $3.00/package.
PayPal fees are listed in a separate line item on my invoice. They're a flat 3.9%.
The additional $1-2 is a sorting fee? Also bull****; increase the GB Fee if that's the case. Don't pad the shipping cost.
You don't seem to be the expert you claim to be so your assertion shipping costs are beyond fair is moot.
Irony: calling people a ***** and telling them to grow the **** up. I'm just asking questions, man. We'll get this **** resolved before the deadline. Calm your tits, you'll get your switches.
There's a reason why so many members have voiced negative opinions.
At this point the GH band of brothers always comes out and says "lol you only have 12 posts, f*** your opinion and go back to r/mk." This is the BS everyone was talking about in the live chat last weekend.
Please show me where it says anything about "per 100 switches" or a tracking fee for that matter. Time to bow out, Nubs.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FUCTnYI.png)
There's a reason why so many members have voiced negative opinions.
The only ones who have voiced negative opinions are those who thought they were going to get shipping for a song and want the GB runner to eat the cost so they can get it even cheaper. Anyone who has been here for any amount of time understands the shipping cost.
If you think more than 200 switches will fit in a small padded envelope, I have some bad news for you. They're shipping with the cheapest available option with tracking.
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There will need to be many sizes of envelopes and boxes, whatever they're shipped in. Envelopes are $0.50-1 and boxes are the same. Packaging is another $1-2. Labels are $0.50. If you say bugger that, just use paper and tape, well, the price is about the same.
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Fair enough.
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You've obviously never taken part in a group buy. A vast majority have a handling fee. You honestly cannot expect someone to sort 60,000 switches and take them to the post office for free. Even if they make $2 a package, that's a pittance for the amount of work.
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Considering that I've run my own successful GB and regularly ship stuff to people, I think I have a good idea.
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You're not asking questions, you're throwing a fit that the prices are more than you expected. Questions take this form:
"Hey, shipping was a bit more than I expected, could you lay out why it costs x?"
Instead you immediately went on the warpath.
I'm done with this argument though. It's counterproductive. I'm sorry some people thought shipping would be less. International shipping for packages over 2-4oz is expensive, deal with it. It's still cheaper than most MX switches and I'm pretty sure it's cheaper than MD still. Shadovved is a great guy and will get everything out quickly and hwood is not raping your wallets.
The only ones who have voiced negative opinions are those who thought they were going to get shipping for a song and want the GB runner to eat the cost so they can get it even cheaper. Anyone who has been here for any amount of time understands the shipping cost.
don't pay the invoice! problem solved!
nobody here owes you anything. kick rocks
don't pay the invoice! problem solved!
nobody here owes you anything. kick rocks
with love
"GH band of brothers"
Too tired to upload images right now. Search for shipping and go to the second to last page. The original post said "shipping will be around $7-8 worldwide"
Idgaf if you think it's silly to assume that shipping would be that cheap. When I read that shipping will be "$7-8 worldwide" I expect it to be $7-8. OP dropped the ball on pricing. There was ZERO mention of variable rates and tracking fees in the original post. Kind of like how he didn't think of the cost of getting them shipped to him. This has been a complete s***show for the last few days. There's a reason why so many members have voiced negative opinions.
At this point the GH band of brothers always comes out and says "lol you only have 12 posts, f*** your opinion and go back to r/mk." This is the BS everyone was talking about in the live chat last weekend.
I'm not trying to rip off hwood34 or Shadovved from their hard work. I just want transparent, itemized pricing. For their work, they get payment in the form of "GB Fee". If they wanted to charge more for the GB Fee, fine, just tell us about it. Don't try to bundle it in shipping costs.
It's not the questions, it's the "I didn't get an answer right away so let me get my pitch fork" tone you have.don't pay the invoice! problem solved!
nobody here owes you anything. kick rocks
If it comes down to it, I won't. I never suggested anyone here owes me anything. I asked questions.
I didn't realize the GB community was so adverse to the concept of asking questions. Sorry.
EDIT: I'd like to pay the invoice. Well, I'd like to pay an invoice I understand rather. Just curious about conversion rates is all.
It's not the questions, it's the "I didn't get an answer right away so let me get my pitch fork" tone you have.
And try to remember that GB organizers get x100 PMs most people get... it's not easy to juggle all of that.
sit back, take a deep breath and see what they have to say.
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I'm just asking questions, man. We'll get this **** resolved before the deadline.
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Can someone pass me some popcorn? :))
Ohh ohh I have one question what will the packages be marked at as you know the UK has some crazy customs fees sometime should will they be marked lower? Not hugely fussed if you can't as I understand doing that would be illegal in some places :x
Okay. Civil people. Here's listing down some answers I've summarised from pages of posts.......
1) Miscommunication between hwood and myself, he charged shipping that's slightly lower for those people that he invoiced, resulting in the differences between both our invoices. He will be rectifying that soon, by asking people to top up the difference. You can reduce your order if you desire, he should be able to handle it for you.
2) I am shipping via Intl Air Packets (airmail, contary to what you read, they allow boxes) + registered mail (aka tracking & signature required on receipt, which costs +2.5/package), and they do not allow packages larger than 2kg, hence many of those who ordered larger quantities have been billed WITHOUT shipping, because the price estimates go haywire after 2kg, and I'll need to go get the exact prices for the best way to send them their items.
3) Shipping costs include costs of materials as well, bubble wrap, ziplock bags, boxes (I'm getting the thick walled ones so they don't dent/crush during shipping, and NO I'M NOT USING BUBBLE MAILERS), tape, shipping labels etc etc, and any additional costs to travel and source for the stuffs and ship them (it is insignificant, but since people wanted to be clear, I had to mention. Or people will think that petrol comes free from wells in Singapore). The small difference will also buffer in case the packaging jacks up the cost of shipping, they weigh quite a bit together as well.
4) GB fee includes a $2 tip for us per order for sorting and packaging services, and the other 1.5 is for consolidated shipping from Gateron to Singapore for the switches and the 7% customs charges I'll get for importing the switches.
5) Please also bear in mind the 4% PayPal fee and currency conversion, banks don't use the Google rates.
6) The price you pay on your invoice includes everything above, I used to do GBs and ship stuff frequently, so I know most of the things that I need to include in my bills from the start, so they might look abit more than expected. BUT you do not have to worry about me slapping on additional charges when it's time to ship the packages, which you might have seen on other GBs.
Any other burning questions?
Okay. Civil people. Here's listing down some answers I've summarised from pages of posts.......
1) Miscommunication between hwood and myself, he charged shipping that's slightly lower for those people that he invoiced, resulting in the differences between both our invoices. He will be rectifying that soon, by asking people to top up the difference. You can reduce your order if you desire, he should be able to handle it for you.
2) I am shipping via Intl Air Packets (airmail, contary to what you read, they allow boxes) + registered mail (aka tracking & signature required on receipt, which costs +2.5/package), and they do not allow packages larger than 2kg, hence many of those who ordered larger quantities have been billed WITHOUT shipping, because the price estimates go haywire after 2kg, and I'll need to go get the exact prices for the best way to send them their items.
3) Shipping costs include costs of materials as well, bubble wrap, ziplock bags, boxes (I'm getting the thick walled ones so they don't dent/crush during shipping, and NO I'M NOT USING BUBBLE MAILERS), tape, shipping labels etc etc, and any additional costs to travel and source for the stuffs and ship them (it is insignificant, but since people wanted to be clear, I had to mention. Or people will think that petrol comes free from wells in Singapore). The small difference will also buffer in case the packaging jacks up the cost of shipping, they weigh quite a bit together as well.
4) GB fee includes a $2 tip for us per order for sorting and packaging services, and the other 1.5 is for consolidated shipping from Gateron to Singapore for the switches and the 7% customs charges I'll get for importing the switches.
5) Please also bear in mind the 4% PayPal fee and currency conversion, banks don't use the Google rates.
6) The price you pay on your invoice includes everything above, I used to do GBs and ship stuff frequently, so I know most of the things that I need to include in my bills from the start, so they might look abit more than expected. BUT you do not have to worry about me slapping on additional charges when it's time to ship the packages, which you might have seen on other GBs.
Any other burning questions?
Lotta drama over shipping prices. Looks like shadovved addressed most of it. Gotta admit, when I first saw shipping cost I was surprised. But the thing is, even factoring in shipping costs, this is still one of the cheapest option you have to buy Gaterons.
So if you're complaining about shipping being higher than expected and don't wanna pay the invoice that's your choice. You wanna go buy somewhere else only to find it's more expensive to buy the same amount of switches that's your choice. But I think you're shooting yourself in the foot. My $.02 (+ .01 posting cost)
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Around 20 for international shipping looks pretty normal.bug me as much as you want ;)
Darn, looks like interest in the blues plateaued and now browns are at 20k. Darn me changing my order to only blues. I don't wanna bug hwood to change my order anymore though. :(
Okay. Civil people. Here's listing down some answers I've summarised from pages of posts.......
1) Miscommunication between hwood and myself, he charged shipping that's slightly lower for those people that he invoiced, resulting in the differences between both our invoices. He will be rectifying that soon, by asking people to top up the difference. You can reduce your order if you desire, he should be able to handle it for you.
2) I am shipping via Intl Air Packets (airmail, contary to what you read, they allow boxes) + registered mail (aka tracking & signature required on receipt, which costs +2.5/package), and they do not allow packages larger than 2kg, hence many of those who ordered larger quantities have been billed WITHOUT shipping, because the price estimates go haywire after 2kg, and I'll need to go get the exact prices for the best way to send them their items.
3) Shipping costs include costs of materials as well, bubble wrap, ziplock bags, boxes (I'm getting the thick walled ones so they don't dent/crush during shipping, and NO I'M NOT USING BUBBLE MAILERS), tape, shipping labels etc etc, and any additional costs to travel and source for the stuffs and ship them (it is insignificant, but since people wanted to be clear, I had to mention. Or people will think that petrol comes free from wells in Singapore). The small difference will also buffer in case the packaging jacks up the cost of shipping, they weigh quite a bit together as well.
4) GB fee includes a $2 tip for us per order for sorting and packaging services, and the other 1.5 is for consolidated shipping from Gateron to Singapore for the switches and the 7% customs charges I'll get for importing the switches.
5) Please also bear in mind the 4% PayPal fee and currency conversion, banks don't use the Google rates.
6) The price you pay on your invoice includes everything above, I used to do GBs and ship stuff frequently, so I know most of the things that I need to include in my bills from the start, so they might look abit more than expected. BUT you do not have to worry about me slapping on additional charges when it's time to ship the packages, which you might have seen on other GBs.
EDIT: Before you think that the price is outrageous for such a cheap item, go quantify it by looking at a baggie of your own switches lying around. The percentage of the shipping might be really large in the invoice, but when you divide it out the cost becomes more realistic.
Any other burning questions?
^_^ thank youOhh ohh I have one question what will the packages be marked at as you know the UK has some crazy customs fees sometime should will they be marked lower? Not hugely fussed if you can't as I understand doing that would be illegal in some places :x
Because I'm a nice and friendly person :D Every package I send to people are gifts to them......usually worth around $20, unless the package contains too much stuff that I might have to increase the value slightly.
Okay. Civil people. Here's listing down some answers I've summarised from pages of posts.......
1) Miscommunication between hwood and myself, he charged shipping that's slightly lower for those people that he invoiced, resulting in the differences between both our invoices. He will be rectifying that soon, by asking people to top up the difference. You can reduce your order if you desire, he should be able to handle it for you.
2) I am shipping via Intl Air Packets (airmail, contary to what you read, they allow boxes) + registered mail (aka tracking & signature required on receipt, which costs +2.5/package), and they do not allow packages larger than 2kg, hence many of those who ordered larger quantities have been billed WITHOUT shipping, because the price estimates go haywire after 2kg, and I'll need to go get the exact prices for the best way to send them their items.
3) Shipping costs include costs of materials as well, bubble wrap, ziplock bags, boxes (I'm getting the thick walled ones so they don't dent/crush during shipping, and NO I'M NOT USING BUBBLE MAILERS), tape, shipping labels etc etc, and any additional costs to travel and source for the stuffs and ship them (it is insignificant, but since people wanted to be clear, I had to mention. Or people will think that petrol comes free from wells in Singapore). The small difference will also buffer in case the packaging jacks up the cost of shipping, they weigh quite a bit together as well.
4) GB fee includes a $2 tip for us per order for sorting and packaging services, and the other 1.5 is for consolidated shipping from Gateron to Singapore for the switches and the 7% customs charges I'll get for importing the switches.
5) Please also bear in mind the 4% PayPal fee and currency conversion, banks don't use the Google rates.
6) The price you pay on your invoice includes everything above, I used to do GBs and ship stuff frequently, so I know most of the things that I need to include in my bills from the start, so they might look abit more than expected. BUT you do not have to worry about me slapping on additional charges when it's time to ship the packages, which you might have seen on other GBs.
EDIT: Before you think that the price is outrageous for such a cheap item, go quantify it by looking at a baggie of your own switches lying around. The percentage of the shipping might be really large in the invoice, but when you divide it out the cost becomes more realistic.
Any other burning questions?
Holy crap the drama here is real.im going back to the clear tops thread.
Hold me nubbs
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Holy crap the drama here is real.im going back to the clear tops thread.
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That is probably a good idea.Okay. Civil people. Here's listing down some answers I've summarised from pages of posts.......
1) Miscommunication between hwood and myself, he charged shipping that's slightly lower for those people that he invoiced, resulting in the differences between both our invoices. He will be rectifying that soon, by asking people to top up the difference. You can reduce your order if you desire, he should be able to handle it for you.
2) I am shipping via Intl Air Packets (airmail, contary to what you read, they allow boxes) + registered mail (aka tracking & signature required on receipt, which costs +2.5/package), and they do not allow packages larger than 2kg, hence many of those who ordered larger quantities have been billed WITHOUT shipping, because the price estimates go haywire after 2kg, and I'll need to go get the exact prices for the best way to send them their items.
3) Shipping costs include costs of materials as well, bubble wrap, ziplock bags, boxes (I'm getting the thick walled ones so they don't dent/crush during shipping, and NO I'M NOT USING BUBBLE MAILERS), tape, shipping labels etc etc, and any additional costs to travel and source for the stuffs and ship them (it is insignificant, but since people wanted to be clear, I had to mention. Or people will think that petrol comes free from wells in Singapore). The small difference will also buffer in case the packaging jacks up the cost of shipping, they weigh quite a bit together as well.
4) GB fee includes a $2 tip for us per order for sorting and packaging services, and the other 1.5 is for consolidated shipping from Gateron to Singapore for the switches and the 7% customs charges I'll get for importing the switches.
5) Please also bear in mind the 4% PayPal fee and currency conversion, banks don't use the Google rates.
6) The price you pay on your invoice includes everything above, I used to do GBs and ship stuff frequently, so I know most of the things that I need to include in my bills from the start, so they might look abit more than expected. BUT you do not have to worry about me slapping on additional charges when it's time to ship the packages, which you might have seen on other GBs.
EDIT: Before you think that the price is outrageous for such a cheap item, go quantify it by looking at a baggie of your own switches lying around. The percentage of the shipping might be really large in the invoice, but when you divide it out the cost becomes more realistic.
Any other burning questions?
Just a heads up, if you have credit card linked to your paypal account you can change the conversion option so that card issuer will determine the foreign exchange rate instead of paypal.
Eyy shadovved. When do I get my mail about the switches?
OK I'll waitEyy shadovved. When do I get my mail about the switches?
Since orders close on March 12, I would assume all invoice will be sent by then.
Eyy shadovved. When do I get my mail about the switches?
Eyy shadovved. When do I get my mail about the switches?
I should have invoiced everyone by now, if you still have not gotten your invoice, please PM me.
It might be due to that you didn't fill out some details correctly.
Still waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
Shadovved fixed itStill waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
Shadovved fixed itStill waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
Almost as fast as Sanic.Shadovved fixed itStill waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
I am really impressed by how fast and well Shadovved is handling communications.
blessed be he our ogre lord and onion king shrekAlmost as fast as Sanic.Shadovved fixed itStill waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
I am really impressed by how fast and well Shadovved is handling communications.
Almost as fast as Sanic.I am really impressed by how fast and well Shadovved is handling communications.Shadovved fixed itStill waiting for invoiceNot seeing an order from you, could you resubmit?
Hwood: what is you favourite Gateron switches?Hmm, tough one. I'm always partial to clicky switches, so it would probably have to be blues
I ordered 70 blues for my custom 60% and 30 clears for god knows what :)
Finally put my order in.Damn I forgot. I'll have to do it when I'll come home.
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Sorry I can't reply to any PMs right now, hit my hourly limit. I'll get back to everyone once it resets
I never actually hit it before that, so I'm not sure when it started. But yeah, 50 PMs in an hourSorry I can't reply to any PMs right now, hit my hourly limit. I'll get back to everyone once it resets
Since when is there a PM limit? I had no idea.
too bad that the delivery cost has increased :-!
anyway, what will be the declared value declared for customs? Will it be lower that the real value?
The declared amount for customs will default at either $20, or the actual amount if your order is less. PM Shadovved if you'd like to change the amount
Invoice received and paid. Thanks.
PS: Does someone know how to tell to paypal that you don't want to make the currency change with them but to let it to your bank? Is there an option in your PayPal account? They are putting some more fees for that exchange ...
Hello! I got an invoice, but I would like to change it to 50 clears and 50 blues (I thought thats what i ordered in the first place, but I may have messed it up)
PM sent, THANKS!
Eyy shadovved. When do I get my mail about the switches?
I should have invoiced everyone by now, if you still have not gotten your invoice, please PM me.
It might be due to that you didn't fill out some details correctly.
PS: Does someone know how to tell to paypal that you don't want to make the currency change with them but to let it to your bank? Is there an option in your PayPal account? They are putting some more fees for that exchange ...
If you use your credit card to send a payment, you can usually opt to use your credit card provider’s conversion rate instead of PayPal's.
Anyway. Payments and order changes are on hold.PayPal just limited my account for inquiry, so I'll appreciate if you guys hold off the order edits and changes atm.
I still can invoice and edit while on limitation, so fire away with edits.
Will update you guys when I resolve it. :thumb:
Thanks!
@samsonite I have sent an invoice to you, have you still not received it?
Anyway. Payments and order changes are on hold.PayPal just limited my account for inquiry, so I'll appreciate if you guys hold off the order edits and changes atm.
I still can invoice and edit while on limitation, so fire away with edits.
Will update you guys when I resolve it. :thumb:
Thanks!
@samsonite I have sent an invoice to you, have you still not received it?
Opps. my bad, was checking the wrong email. Paying it today, btw did you change my order to 80 browns and 10 blacks?
sorry for the inconvenience
Anyway. Payments and order changes are on hold.PayPal just limited my account for inquiry, so I'll appreciate if you guys hold off the order edits and changes atm.
I still can invoice and edit while on limitation, so fire away with edits.
Will update you guys when I resolve it. :thumb:
Thanks!
@samsonite I have sent an invoice to you, have you still not received it?
Opps. my bad, was checking the wrong email. Paying it today, btw did you change my order to 80 browns and 10 blacks?
sorry for the inconvenience
Yeap.
don't be shy to order more browns. :P
Haha. Ya. I will have to setup a shop on swillkb.com just to get rid of them all. What did I get myself into? Hahadon't be shy to order more browns.
Lol you're going to be bathing your kids in them. Using them to plug random holes. Replacing every light switch in your house with them. Grinding them in your disposal to clean it. Haha.
Not sure if someone's already asked, but when will the buyers be receiving these switches? if it's more than a month or two then i'll buy a few to build my custom keyboard while i wait :D
PS: Does someone know how to tell to paypal that you don't want to make the currency change with them but to let it to your bank? Is there an option in your PayPal account? They are putting some more fees for that exchange ...
The answer is :QuoteIf you use your credit card to send a payment, you can usually opt to use your credit card provider’s conversion rate instead of PayPal's.
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Just want to verify my order was received, I'm not getting the invoice.I see it marked that an invoice was already sent. PM incoming
Just ordered some Browns and Blacks for a future build :) Been lurking for ages here, but thanks a lot for doing this GB.It's never too late to start :thumb:
Just ordered some Browns and Blacks for a future build :) Been lurking for ages here, but thanks a lot for doing this GB.It's never too late to start :thumb:
What's the current price point on this GB?
With Blues and Browns at $0.16 I really, really want to get 110 Browns and 110 Blues. What would I do with 110 of each switch though?
At least I have two days to decide!
This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about. Pricing will start at $0.24/switch, and will go down depending on the pricing tiers we can hit. If we can hit 20k (a large order, I know) price will drop to $0.16/switch. I'd like to ask just to make things a little easier that everyone order in 10s. Orders will close March 12th. Orders should be shipped out by April 1/2. Invoices will go out as soon as the buy ends, and you will have 4 days to pay it. We are ordering from Gateron directly, and Shadovved will be sorting and shipping them. There will be a $3.5 handling fee. For order changes, pm me.
question...
what do you all plan on doing with these switches? I really want to try them on a board but I honestly have no places to put them, I would need to buy a new board and replace the switches, then im left with a bunch of useless switches :\
now only if they sell switches-less boards, that would be great...
question...
what do you all plan on doing with these switches? I really want to try them on a board but I honestly have no places to put them, I would need to buy a new board and replace the switches, then im left with a bunch of useless switches :\
now only if they sell switches-less boards, that would be great...
I got my invoice and it's not correct. It has me down for 130 Black and 130 Blue. I wanted 100 Clear and 100 Blue. Can it be resent, or adjusted?Yep, just pm Shadovved as stated in the OP
Alright, done :thumb:This is a GB for Gateron Switches, those magical MX-compatible switches you've been hearing all about. Pricing will start at $0.24/switch, and will go down depending on the pricing tiers we can hit. If we can hit 20k (a large order, I know) price will drop to $0.16/switch. I'd like to ask just to make things a little easier that everyone order in 10s. Orders will close March 12th. Orders should be shipped out by April 1/2. Invoices will go out as soon as the buy ends, and you will have 4 days to pay it. We are ordering from Gateron directly, and Shadovved will be sorting and shipping them. There will be a $3.5 handling fee. For order changes, pm me.
I just had a mini heart attack rereading the top post. Hwood you might want to change the "Invoices will go out as soon as the buy ends" text a bit, since you have been sending them out periodically. For a second I thought I have sent my payment to some other jabroni
question...
what do you all plan on doing with these switches? I really want to try them on a board but I honestly have no places to put them, I would need to buy a new board and replace the switches, then im left with a bunch of useless switches :\
now only if they sell switches-less boards, that would be great...
question...
what do you all plan on doing with these switches? I really want to try them on a board but I honestly have no places to put them, I would need to buy a new board and replace the switches, then im left with a bunch of useless switches :\
now only if they sell switches-less boards, that would be great...
question...
what do you all plan on doing with these switches? I really want to try them on a board but I honestly have no places to put them, I would need to buy a new board and replace the switches, then im left with a bunch of useless switches :\
now only if they sell switches-less boards, that would be great...
Planning on building an ergo clear GON 60. Maybe throw in a few numpads in there.
Just sent in for an order of 200...
Dont *need* this...but have always considered buliding some things, this just pushed me over the edge to try it.
Is it price change on 30K?
For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
Do you know what the price would be then?For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
yes, for each switch type
Do you know what the price would be then?For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
yes, for each switch type
^Do you know what the price would be then?For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
yes, for each switch type
I think hwood and Shadovved said it would go down to like $0.15/ea. :D
Ohh. Okay thanks^Do you know what the price would be then?For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
yes, for each switch type
I think hwood and Shadovved said it would go down to like $0.15/ea. :D
(http://media.giphy.com/media/2Fazf3IFiTw2CO7MQ/giphy.gif)Do you know what the price would be then?For one type?Is it price change on 30K?
100K
yes, for each switch type
I think hwood and Shadovved said it would go down to like $0.15/ea. :D
but you can never have enough keyboard stuff.
but you can never have enough keyboard stuff.
Truer words were never spoken.
And Welcome to Geekhack! (Your wallet hates you.)
@hwood34: did the number of browns ordered actually go down or are you just assuming that it will stay at 20k and I will be reducing my order by whatever I can to keep it at 20k?I'm just putting up the 20k number so people on the fence will buy if they now it'll be at $0.16. It's actually at 18,700 though, so we'll get pretty close
Is the 18,700 number before or after my order of 4300? If its before that will make my day because then I can order a more reasonable number.@hwood34: did the number of browns ordered actually go down or are you just assuming that it will stay at 20k and I will be reducing my order by whatever I can to keep it at 20k?I'm just putting up the 20k number so people on the fence will buy if they now it'll be at $0.16. It's actually at 18,700 though, so we'll get pretty close
the 18,700 is before your order :thumb:Is the 18,700 number before or after my order of 4300? If its before that will make my day because then I can order a more reasonable number.@hwood34: did the number of browns ordered actually go down or are you just assuming that it will stay at 20k and I will be reducing my order by whatever I can to keep it at 20k?I'm just putting up the 20k number so people on the fence will buy if they now it'll be at $0.16. It's actually at 18,700 though, so we'll get pretty close
NICE!!! Thanks for that glorious little update.the 18,700 is before your order :thumb:Is the 18,700 number before or after my order of 4300? If its before that will make my day because then I can order a more reasonable number.@hwood34: did the number of browns ordered actually go down or are you just assuming that it will stay at 20k and I will be reducing my order by whatever I can to keep it at 20k?I'm just putting up the 20k number so people on the fence will buy if they now it'll be at $0.16. It's actually at 18,700 though, so we'll get pretty close
shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
Thats cheap IMO. It costs me $9 to ship untracked air to the US from Canada. US residents are just spoiled re:shipping. :)shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
yeah I just didn't expect it to be so much, not that surprising now that I think about it, since its coming from Singapore
Thats cheap IMO. It costs me $9 to ship untracked air to the US from Canada. US residents are just spoiled re:shipping. :)shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
yeah I just didn't expect it to be so much, not that surprising now that I think about it, since its coming from Singapore
Thats cheap IMO. It costs me $9 to ship untracked air to the US from Canada. US residents are just spoiled re:shipping. :)shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
yeah I just didn't expect it to be so much, not that surprising now that I think about it, since its coming from Singapore
Thats cheap IMO. It costs me $9 to ship untracked air to the US from Canada. US residents are just spoiled re:shipping. :)shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
yeah I just didn't expect it to be so much, not that surprising now that I think about it, since its coming from Singapore
Yes. Sad days. It definitely hurts now.Thats cheap IMO. It costs me $9 to ship untracked air to the US from Canada. US residents are just spoiled re:shipping. :)shipping is 10 dollars? :eek:
How many did you order, it's $8/100pcs
yeah I just didn't expect it to be so much, not that surprising now that I think about it, since its coming from Singapore
True. Lets not forget the conversion rates these days in Canada. Example, a $199 ergodox from massdrop become $252 Canadian :(
Is there still time to get in on this GB?
Still wondering if i should join / what i should get.
Really deciding on what to get.
I'm somehow wanting something that feels like Topre so i'm trying to figure out in my mind what would be most like it.
But either way. I'm iffy on the linear-ness of the blacks since i was never a fan of linear switches when i first tried them so i havent tried them since.
Should I end up getting the blacks like everyone suggest or should i get browns/blues
Also, should i get clears just for aesthetics and use the clear stem with the black springs? or maybe use some Sprit (too soon?) springs to make different switches, as to not mess up the perfectness of the stock Gateron Blacks.
Just rambling since i'm waiting for my girlfriend.
But if someone could help me decide, that would be greeeeeeeeeeeeat-ly appreciated :)
Edit: NOT TO MENTION should i toss in 1 set of clear tops, or 2 sets? SO MUCH TO BUY
Planning on building an ergo clear GON 60. Maybe throw in a few numpads in there.
Just to make sure you know, Gateron Clears are not tactile like Cherry switches. The are completely linear.
Before I submit my form, is there a difference in smoothness between the clears and blacks?It is my understanding that the clears and blacks are done with the same mold, so they should be pretty consistent.
Also, would an addition of 150 clear tops tip the shipping cost over to the 201-300 switches' range, if I'm in for only 200?
Before I submit my form, is there a difference in smoothness between the clears and blacks?They'd be essentially the same smoothness, can't really see the difference some dye would make. As for the switch tops, yes, it would bump you up. You'll want to PM Shadovved for a more exact estimate though
Also, would an addition of 150 clear tops tip the shipping cost over to the 201-300 switches' range, if I'm in for only 200?
Still wondering if i should join / what i should get.
Really deciding on what to get.
I'm somehow wanting something that feels like Topre so i'm trying to figure out in my mind what would be most like it.
But either way. I'm iffy on the linear-ness of the blacks since i was never a fan of linear switches when i first tried them so i havent tried them since.
Should I end up getting the blacks like everyone suggest or should i get browns/blues
Also, should i get clears just for aesthetics and use the clear stem with the black springs? or maybe use some Sprit (too soon?) springs to make different switches, as to not mess up the perfectness of the stock Gateron Blacks.
Just rambling since i'm waiting for my girlfriend.
But if someone could help me decide, that would be greeeeeeeeeeeeat-ly appreciated :)
Edit: NOT TO MENTION should i toss in 1 set of clear tops, or 2 sets? SO MUCH TO BUY
put it this way. you will never have the chance to buy switches at this price again. I would recommend you buy about 100 of each of black or clear, brown and blue. This way you will have all of the options and you can experiment as much as you want. You can always sell the extras if you find you don't like something. At this price you can't really go wrong with buying more than you 'need'. Also, the more you buy the more likely you will be paying less per switch for shipping... All good reasons to jump in with both feet... :)
How long after completing the form should I expect an invoice?
I haven't received an invoice yet. Should I be concerned?PM Shadovved if the invoice doesn't get out to you by the end of tomorrow (should though)
Just made an order. Hope its not too late because of timezones.Orders close tomorrow, so not too much longer! :thumb:
TBH I still haven't finalized my decision...
How long to we have to change our minds?
Just paid my invoice for 100 blues!! Hopefully I like them, currently using MX browns and wanted to go with MX greens or MX clears for my custom I want to build. But you can't beat the price on this GB! Thinking of getting some MX green springs and swapping them out, any advice on this?
Also I'm new here, just curious how often GBs like this happen? Not sure if I'm going to want to buy Gateron browns, or even MX clears if some show up on here.
Just found this thread and its very early in the morning here in germany, is it still possible to buy some?
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Maybe someone could help me very quick, if its not too late already. :)
Yep, all correct info. Sorry, made a note that orders end at 11:59 pm ESTJust found this thread and its very early in the morning here in germany, is it still possible to buy some?
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Maybe someone could help me very quick, if its not too late already. :)
I *think* they're still taking orders ... it's not the 12th here.
There are blues (nearly the same as SMX blues) and browns (again, nearly the same) available if you wanted clicky or tactile (both with the lighter spring).
It also looks like you can order by tens, so just get 40 blacks for the letters, and you can swap out the sliders for something else if linear isn't to your liking ... all the switch types have reached the cheapest tier.
Just a fellow buyer, so one of the two organizers may step in to correct me but I think that's all right.
Well thank you very much for the quick answers! :)Yes, since the smoothness comes from the plastic used, Gblues would be smoother feeling than MX blues. If aesthetics aren't your thing, Gclears are probably too light for many too use with the stock spring. The lightest MX switches are browns and reds, both 45g
That means i have plenty of time left (~11h, should be 00:45 pm EST)
If blues and browns are nearly the same, then definitly not Browns. :)
So the blacks are smooth as lubed mx-blacks, are the blues smooth as mx-blues or really only a little lighter because of the spring?
I dont really care about the look of the switch housing as i dont like LEDs either, so clears are really not to consider for the spring?
My friend really likes light switches, so would any other switch, lets say mx-blues or mx-clears would be to consider with the spring of a clear gateron? :)
Sorry if I ask redundant questions. :/
Order placed 12 hours ago, have not received my invoice yet, I guess it's safe to wait a few more hours before bugging Shadovved about it?
I will be in for 200 blacks and 200 blues in a few minutes. :)
Shipping would be to Germany, anything possible to avoid taxes?
If the "Zollamt" opens the package and they thinks the gaterons are Cherry-Switches i could be charged for very much. :D
Or will be a bill in the package and on the package so i have to pay the normal taxes for the value i paid?
Will there be a round 2? I'm still undecided and ... yeah ... time's running out. :O
Will there be a round 2? I'm still undecided and ... yeah ... time's running out. :OBuy now. This will not happen again in the next few years for sure.
Just a quick question which i forgot to ask: Are they PCB or Plate mounted?... Hopefully PCB... :/
Just a quick question which i forgot to ask: Are they PCB or Plate mounted?... Hopefully PCB... :/PCB
You guys are such bad influences and a barely know you! Just placed another order for 60 browns! I was waffling on whether or not to, and I just kept reading that there may never be another GB for this cheap, DAMN YOU!
You guys are such bad influences and a barely know you! Just placed another order for 60 browns! I was waffling on whether or not to, and I just kept reading that there may never be another GB for this cheap, DAMN YOU!
I like clear for typing and brown for playing games, which gateron switch do you guys recommend?
Also I plan on using these on the future Orion V2 or should I just get original cherry switches
I like clear for typing and brown for playing games, which gateron switch do you guys recommend?
Also I plan on using these on the future Orion V2 or should I just get original cherry switches
I like clear for typing and brown for playing games, which gateron switch do you guys recommend?
Also I plan on using these on the future Orion V2 or should I just get original cherry switches
Brown is going to be the best option. There is no equivalent to MX clear in this GB. The browns will be pretty consistent with MX browns...
I like clear for typing and brown for playing games, which gateron switch do you guys recommend?
Also I plan on using these on the future Orion V2 or should I just get original cherry switches
It appears that they are no Gateron that matches the Cherry clear switch, according with comments of people that have tried them already.
Gateron blacks feel like lubed MX blacks, with a very slightly lighter spring.Are the springs confirmed to be lighter or is it because of less friction of the slider?
200 browns ordered.
thx!
200 browns ordered.
thx!
Swill will thank you!
200 browns ordered.
thx!
Swill will thank you!
I appreciate everyone who pitched in on the browns. I believe my initiative to pay to get the browns to the 20k mark worked. I think it has tipped without even needing my order, so I was able to reduce my order to a more reasonable 500 browns. :)
Thanks everyone...
I too choose black because of someone but couldn't remember who precisely.
Somewhere in the folds of my brain there should be a geekhack monster made up of multiple avatars.
Ssshhhh don't wake him up yet because he likes to eat blacks.
Meanwhile the brown eating monster has a clear image, he has a beard, wear glasses, is holding a smiling kid with a red bandana and goes like this "We need more browns, get your browns, browns are the thing, have the browns, get more browns, browns, browns, browns, everybody browns now!, you don't have browns? Get some browns, 100 browns, 300 browns, browns, browns, browns".
It is not known in the land of the switches monsters if browns have a better taste than blacks but all hope they will be fed soon :)
Aren't orders closed by now?
Still on the fence about this...
Do i need these? Will i like them? should i set aside the money for something else?
hmmm..
Few hours to decide.
Still on the fence about this...
Do i need these? Will i like them? should i set aside the money for something else?
hmmm..
Few hours to decide.
Still on the fence about this...
Do i need these? Will i like them? should i set aside the money for something else?
hmmm..
Few hours to decide.
Likewise I was suffering from analysis paralysis .. i.e. Am I actually going to use them? Am I kidding myself that I can build my own keyboard(s), etc. Pulled the trigger anyway.
Still on the fence about this...
Do i need these? Will i like them? should i set aside the money for something else?
hmmm..
Few hours to decide.
Likewise I was suffering from analysis paralysis .. i.e. Am I actually going to use them? Am I kidding myself that I can build my own keyboard(s), etc. Pulled the trigger anyway.
Less than an hour left and i still have no idea. Trying to do classwork but still distracted on this since time will run out...
I can always use these switches, or like suggested, sell them at a later point if i dont, but it's money i can use RIGHT NOW for something else.
Limited funding and all that, and wouldnt want to try and borrow from somewhere else or antyhing like that.
Either these switches/switch tops, 2nd Hyperfuse, HHKB (possibly have the chance to get one if i can visit EK tomorrow). Just a lot to think about lol
I will probably end up pulling the trigger on at least 100 switches though.
Still on the fence about this...
Do i need these? Will i like them? should i set aside the money for something else?
hmmm..
Few hours to decide.
Likewise I was suffering from analysis paralysis .. i.e. Am I actually going to use them? Am I kidding myself that I can build my own keyboard(s), etc. Pulled the trigger anyway.
Less than an hour left and i still have no idea. Trying to do classwork but still distracted on this since time will run out...
I can always use these switches, or like suggested, sell them at a later point if i dont, but it's money i can use RIGHT NOW for something else.
Limited funding and all that, and wouldnt want to try and borrow from somewhere else or antyhing like that.
Either these switches/switch tops, 2nd Hyperfuse, HHKB (possibly have the chance to get one if i can visit EK tomorrow). Just a lot to think about lol
I will probably end up pulling the trigger on at least 100 switches though.
Put it this way. If you are going to do any build projects in the next year or so, buy these. Any build project will require switches and you won't find them for less than $.50/each (usually) for MX switches. These switches cost nothing compared to MX right now. I will have enough switches for like 8-10 projects. Yes, that is excessive, but this is a really good deal for what you get...
Edit: As for amounts. If you don't know what switch type to buy, get enough of each of your first two choices and you should be good...
Alright, orders officially closed. The rest of invoices will be going out
Invoice needs to be paid before 16th march right?You should have a date of payment on your paypal invoice.
Invoice needs to be paid before 16th march right?
Wondering how many people got in on this buy? Must have been several hundred!!447 to be exact :thumb:
Wondering how many people got in on this buy? Must have been several hundred!!447 to be exact :thumb:
Wondering how many people got in on this buy? Must have been several hundred!!447 to be exact :thumb:
Wow! that many people for over 100,000 switches, some of you guys went super saiyan.
Wondering how many people got in on this buy? Must have been several hundred!!447 to be exact :thumb:
Wondering how many people got in on this buy? Must have been several hundred!!447 to be exact :thumb:
That's nuts!!! Seeing this and the success of the Hyperfuse GMK buy (almost 500 sets sold) tells me that we are living in the golden age of mechs!
I know I said this before in this thread... but I'd really like to see what 100K+ switches looks like sitting in a room. Shadovved should share a pic with us when they come in ;D
I know I said this before in this thread... but I'd really like to see what 100K+ switches looks like sitting in a room. Shadovved should share a pic with us when they come in ;D
I think I cant fit them in a room. Probably in my living room (I know it's still a room but.....) :p
Along with bubble wrap, ziplocks, and 500 boxes to send them out :eek:
My payment was prompt, Shadovved.
All I ask is...
May I have the switches that aren't stored in the bathtub?
Thanks.
:))
Pics when you get them please. :)I know I said this before in this thread... but I'd really like to see what 100K+ switches looks like sitting in a room. Shadovved should share a pic with us when they come in ;D
I think I cant fit them in a room. Probably in my living room (I know it's still a room but.....)
Along with bubble wrap, ziplocks, and 500 boxes to send them out :eek:
I missed out on the GB, does anyone know what stores will be selling gaterons (even if they currently don't have stock)?PM zeal. He might have ordered quite a bit to sell in his shop (zealpc).
I missed out on the GB, does anyone know what stores will be selling gaterons (even if they currently don't have stock)?PM'd
Oh well, I don't even know what I'm going to do with all of these switches!
That'd be great, every button you press will have optimal girth!Oh well, I don't even know what I'm going to do with all of these switches!
I was feeling the same way until I had this crazy idea to replace every singe button and switch in my house with gateron switches. Everything. Microwave buttons, roku remote, car key fob, telephone buttons, computer I/O switches. The possibilities are endless :p
Plus it would give me an excuse to buy more keycaps ;)
Oh well, I don't even know what I'm going to do with all of these switches!
I was feeling the same way until I had this crazy idea to replace every singe button and switch in my house with gateron switches. Everything. Microwave buttons, roku remote, car key fob, telephone buttons, computer I/O switches. The possibilities are endless :p
Plus it would give me an excuse to buy more keycaps ;)
Oh well, I don't even know what I'm going to do with all of these switches!
I was feeling the same way until I had this crazy idea to replace every singe button and switch in my house with gateron switches. Everything. Microwave buttons, roku remote, car key fob, telephone buttons, computer I/O switches. The possibilities are endless :p
Plus it would give me an excuse to buy more keycaps ;)
I'm with you here, I'm thinking of making couple toys for my daughter with blues, LEDs and sounds. What better toy is there than one with clicky switches!
On that note, is there "keycaps" out there that are more of a button? Preferably ones I wouldn't have to 3D print.
Oh well, I don't even know what I'm going to do with all of these switches!
I was feeling the same way until I had this crazy idea to replace every singe button and switch in my house with gateron switches. Everything. Microwave buttons, roku remote, car key fob, telephone buttons, computer I/O switches. The possibilities are endless :p
Plus it would give me an excuse to buy more keycaps ;)
I'm with you here, I'm thinking of making couple toys for my daughter with blues, LEDs and sounds. What better toy is there than one with clicky switches!
On that note, is there "keycaps" out there that are more of a button? Preferably ones I wouldn't have to 3D print.
You probably want to check out the Arcade gaming community for stuff like this: http://www.focusattack.com/hbfs-g2-30mm-mechanical-switch-pushbutton-black/
Are there any anticipated delays at this point? I know it's nearing the end of 3/16, the date where everyone should have paid their invoice. The next step is to make the actual order with Gateron yes? ;)
Are there any anticipated delays at this point? I know it's nearing the end of 3/16, the date where everyone should have paid their invoice. The next step is to make the actual order with Gateron yes? ;)
This is a group buy. Plan on it taking 3x as long as the original timeframe, no matter what the organizers said.
What was the final count?
Final Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Are there any anticipated delays at this point? I know it's nearing the end of 3/16, the date where everyone should have paid their invoice. The next step is to make the actual order with Gateron yes? ;)
This is a group buy. Plan on it taking 3x as long as the original timeframe, no matter what the organizers said.
Order has already been made, update you guys when Gateron readies the items for shipping to me :thumb:
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Sorting that much switches would suck the hell out of Shadovved's social life. Your dedication is highly appreciated. On another note though , you can swim on a pool of switches which is a chance of a lifetime. :)) :))
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Sorting that much switches would suck the hell out of Shadovved's social life. Your dedication is highly appreciated. On another note though , you can swim on a pool of switches which is a chance of a lifetime. :)) :))
R.I.P. Shadovved-He died doing what he loved... drowning in a pool of switches
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Sorting that much switches would suck the hell out of Shadovved's social life. Your dedication is highly appreciated. On another note though , you can swim on a pool of switches which is a chance of a lifetime. :)) :))
R.I.P. Shadovved-He died doing what he loved... drowning in a pool of switches
HAHAHA. I can swim :p
The switches should be ready soon. Gateron told me by next week they'll be ready to ship out.
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Sorting that much switches would suck the hell out of Shadovved's social life. Your dedication is highly appreciated. On another note though , you can swim on a pool of switches which is a chance of a lifetime. :)) :))
R.I.P. Shadovved-He died doing what he loved... drowning in a pool of switches
HAHAHA. I can swim :p
The switches should be ready soon. Gateron told me by next week they'll be ready to ship out.
What was the final count?
The final count was included on the first post of this topic ... it was a big one :DFinal Numbers:
Clears: 31,643
Blues: 25,816
Blacks: 34,152
Browns: 22,344
Sorting that much switches would suck the hell out of Shadovved's social life. Your dedication is highly appreciated. On another note though , you can swim on a pool of switches which is a chance of a lifetime. :)) :))
R.I.P. Shadovved-He died doing what he loved... drowning in a pool of switches
HAHAHA. I can swim :p
The switches should be ready soon. Gateron told me by next week they'll be ready to ship out.
I missed out the GB, are there any extra sets available?
It may also be worth contacting Hwood as didn't he buy quite a few to make numbers up too?I missed out the GB, are there any extra sets available?
I am pretty sure a few vendors got involved, so I expect there will be some after-gb switches available. :)
Just keep your eyes open or ask once everyone has received theirs.
I missed out the GB, are there any extra sets available?Massdrop is also running a group buy (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches) at the moment.
I missed out the GB, are there any extra sets available?Massdrop is also running a group buy (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches) at the moment.
The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
This is an open market, where vendors are free to set their prices as they wish, or market rules, MD, Zeal and any other.
This is an open market, where vendors are free to set their prices as they wish, or market rules, MD, Zeal and any other.
Of course, there is nothing wrong with them selling switches, I hope my previous post did not come across as a criticism towards small vendors. I was just weighing the remaining choices now that hwood's GB is over.
The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
IIRC they are ranked ~170g so I'd say they are just unusable.The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Whoa how were the yellows? There aren't too many reviews on them yet.
IIRC they are ranked ~170g so I'd say they are just unusable.The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Whoa how were the yellows? There aren't too many reviews on them yet.
IIRC they are ranked ~170g so I'd say they are just unusable.The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Whoa how were the yellows? There aren't too many reviews on them yet.Show Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji1.png)
or maybe you have weak fingers :)) :)) :))
IIRC they are ranked ~170g so I'd say they are just unusable.The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Whoa how were the yellows? There aren't too many reviews on them yet.Show Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji1.png)
or maybe you have weak fingers :)) :)) :))
Yeah that could be a reason as well! But I don't see a lot of people bragging about using such heavy switches. :P
that's because they don't have hands anymoreShow Image(http://images.cryhavok.org/d/1291-1/Computer+Rage.gif)
not even actuated once
The GIF is pretty accurate haha!IIRC they are ranked ~170g so I'd say they are just unusable.The question is, will vendors who got Gateron switches from this GB sell them at a lower price than MD's? hwood's GB was definitely the way to go but now that it is closed MD's deal looks like an acceptable alternative (if you can cope with their delays of course).
actually, I ordered some yellows on MD's group buy and I got them earlier this week!
Whoa how were the yellows? There aren't too many reviews on them yet.Show Image(https://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji1.png)
or maybe you have weak fingers :)) :)) :))
Yeah that could be a reason as well! But I don't see a lot of people bragging about using such heavy switches.
that's because they don't have hands anymoreShow Image(http://images.cryhavok.org/d/1291-1/Computer+Rage.gif)
not even actuated once
Pay your invoices pleaseSo we can still do it and receive switches, its not to late?
Yep, the order has already been placed to Gateron, but in a day or so we'll start canceling orders probablyPay your invoices pleaseSo we can still do it and receive switches, its not to late?
Pay your invoices please
Since we paid $0.16/ea, I would say yes. What happens behind the scenes of a group buy is not really our concern.Pay your invoices please
Just out of curiosity... Have enough switches already been paid for to get the .16 a piece price?
Since we paid $0.16/ea, I would say yes. What happens behind the scenes of a group buy is not really our concern.Pay your invoices please
Just out of curiosity... Have enough switches already been paid for to get the .16 a piece price?
And come on people, pay those invoices if you haven't already. They were due no later than a week ago. If you can't pay, at least have the courtesy to inform the group buy organizers so they can cancel your order and sell those switches to someone else. Don't be a douchebag.
everyone will be paying the $0.16, regardless of cancellations and the like :thumb:Since we paid $0.16/ea, I would say yes. What happens behind the scenes of a group buy is not really our concern.Pay your invoices please
Just out of curiosity... Have enough switches already been paid for to get the .16 a piece price?
And come on people, pay those invoices if you haven't already. They were due no later than a week ago. If you can't pay, at least have the courtesy to inform the group buy organizers so they can cancel your order and sell those switches to someone else. Don't be a douchebag.
Hey it's cool. I know I've already paid my invoice. Maybe I read hwood's last post wrong. I thought maybe he was reducing / canceling orders with Gateron? That was the only reason I was asking.
Also, I'm a newb when it comes to group buys around here... so sorry if I ask stupid questions. :)
Yep, the order has already been placed to Gateron, but in a day or so we'll start canceling orders probablyPay your invoices pleaseSo we can still do it and receive switches, its not to late?
if need to be i can increase my order size.
Same here! 100 browns for me too!Yep, the order has already been placed to Gateron, but in a day or so we'll start canceling orders probablyPay your invoices pleaseSo we can still do it and receive switches, its not to late?
I wasn't part of the original group buy, but I'd be happy to order 100 brown switches if there are cancelled orders.
All those who want to add switches, PM me with your PayPal email and no. of switches & colour.PM'd
All those who want to add switches, PM me with your PayPal email and no. of switches & colour.
it depends if the new quantity is in a new shipping pricing tierAll those who want to add switches, PM me with your PayPal email and no. of switches & colour.
If we increase our quantity will we be charged again for shipping or will it simply be added to our order?
it depends if the new quantity is in a new shipping pricing tierAll those who want to add switches, PM me with your PayPal email and no. of switches & colour.
If we increase our quantity will we be charged again for shipping or will it simply be added to our order?
How about some yellow switches? Can you still add some of these in even at a higher cost?
anyone have more info about the gateron yellows massdrop just shipped out? People are reporting that it's not much heavier than a gateron black.Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2zvroz/massdrop_gateron_yellows_weaker_than_expected/). It looks like they totally changed the characteristics. I myself wondered where you would use 170g switches.
anyone have more info about the gateron yellows massdrop just shipped out? People are reporting that it's not much heavier than a gateron black.Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2zvroz/massdrop_gateron_yellows_weaker_than_expected/). It looks like they totally changed the characteristics. I myself wondered where you would use 170g switches.
Haha, nice one.anyone have more info about the gateron yellows massdrop just shipped out? People are reporting that it's not much heavier than a gateron black.Source (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2zvroz/massdrop_gateron_yellows_weaker_than_expected/). It looks like they totally changed the characteristics. I myself wondered where you would use 170g switches.
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hey, i ordered some browns from here, but completely forgot to pay the invoice :-[ I have it still, but it says payment was due 16th March, can i still pay it to have the switches? sorry :/
Will the orders that are already paid be held up from shipping because there are still outstanding payments?
Will the orders that are already paid be held up from shipping because there are still outstanding payments?
I don't think so, they already made the payment to Gateron.
I cannot believe people commit to pay, and then, they just do not do it.
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(I was part of the list that got less charged than expected for shipping, I had to issue a complementary payment).
They might have used the total funds collected (including shipping funds) to make that payment, who knows? So it might.
If unpaid orders do hold up shipping, I volunteer to bust heads. :mad:
PAY THOSE INVOICES, SLACKERS!!
I cannot believe people commit to pay, and then, they just do not do it.
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Will the orders that are already paid be held up from shipping because there are still outstanding payments?
I don't think so, they already made the payment to Gateron.
They might have used the total funds collected (including shipping funds) to make that payment, who knows? So it might.
If unpaid orders do hold up shipping, I volunteer to bust heads. :mad:
PAY THOSE INVOICES, SLACKERS!!
Will the orders that are already paid be held up from shipping because there are still outstanding payments?
I don't think so, they already made the payment to Gateron.
They might have used the total funds collected (including shipping funds) to make that payment, who knows? So it might.
If unpaid orders do hold up shipping, I volunteer to bust heads. :mad:
PAY THOSE INVOICES, SLACKERS!!
And my PayPal just got unlocked. Whee.
I paid using my own money to Gateron, now I'll withdraw the money from PayPal slowly before they go crazy and lock my account again.......
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
That would seem fair.
I paid right? I was sent an incorrect invoice and then a corrected one I am hoping that the incorrect one is still not lingering. :-[
I paid right? I was sent an incorrect invoice and then a corrected one I am hoping that the incorrect one is still not lingering. :-[
I'm in the same situation, hence my previous questions.
Ordered, ask to change order to add more switches, received confirmation, received invoice, ask to correct invoice to reflect changed quantities at step 2, received second invoice, paid, received shipping correction message, wonder if I should get more switches decided not to, paid, wonder if everything is ok, heard about people being fried and whipped, start to be afraid
Is this whole process with new invoices and cancellations going to delay the order for everyone?
Will the orders that are already paid be held up from shipping because there are still outstanding payments?
I don't think so, they already made the payment to Gateron.
They might have used the total funds collected (including shipping funds) to make that payment, who knows? So it might.
If unpaid orders do hold up shipping, I volunteer to bust heads. :mad:
PAY THOSE INVOICES, SLACKERS!!
And my PayPal just got unlocked. Whee.
I paid using my own money to Gateron, now I'll withdraw the money from PayPal slowly before they go crazy and lock my account again.......
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
Is this whole process with new invoices and cancellations going to delay the order for everyone?No. He just said that...
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
I think that is a good idea. Recoup the interest on your money. :). Thanks for putting your own money up, that was very kind if you and not required. It will make everything go quicker, so that is awesome.
And no, it will not hold up shipping, I will just save those leftovers for a post GB sale at a slightly more expensive price maybe?
I think that is a good idea. Recoup the interest on your money. :). Thanks for putting your own money up, that was very kind if you and not required. It will make everything go quicker, so that is awesome.
I'll probably open up ordering for those who want to buy now to PM me ASAP. If I can clear, then no need for post-GB sale?
My GON Nerd60 arrived, I just need these switches to get it to life.
they're coming boys..prepare your irons!
Who makes gateron switches?
I tried googling them but all I got was taobao links, do you have a website? :PWho makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course :p
Do they have website or contact persons? I haven't seen anything online.Who makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course
Do they have website or contact persons? I haven't seen anything online.Who makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course
Lel sketchyDo they have website or contact persons? I haven't seen anything online.Who makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course
They have an entry in kinda the yellow pages of China......that's about it.
Lel sketchyDo they have website or contact persons? I haven't seen anything online.Who makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course
They have an entry in kinda the yellow pages of China......that's about it.
Lel sketchyDo they have website or contact persons? I haven't seen anything online.Who makes gateron switches?
Gateron, of course
They have an entry in kinda the yellow pages of China......that's about it.
They are a small factory to begin with.
Attempting to build my own keyboard for the first time!
100 Switches (black) ordered!
Attempting to build my own keyboard for the first time!
100 Switches (black) ordered!
What board are you making - keep us posted!
Do you have a rough estimate of how many switch of each type have been cancelled? Just to give us an idea of what we should get to help.Well, we had around 30 cancelations, and a handful have been taken over so far
Do you have a rough estimate of how many switch of each type have been cancelled? Just to give us an idea of what we should get to help.Well, we had around 30 cancelations, and a handful have been taken over so far
I mean, since the switches are being delivered in bulk, it doesn't really matter how the orders are split up at this pointDo you have a rough estimate of how many switch of each type have been cancelled? Just to give us an idea of what we should get to help.Well, we had around 30 cancelations, and a handful have been taken over so far
If you publish the list of the remaining cancelled orders with quantities, some people may get them as they are; well, unless you do not care about exact quantities.
I mean, since the switches are being delivered in bulk, it doesn't really matter how the orders are split up at this pointDo you have a rough estimate of how many switch of each type have been cancelled? Just to give us an idea of what we should get to help.Well, we had around 30 cancelations, and a handful have been taken over so far
If you publish the list of the remaining cancelled orders with quantities, some people may get them as they are; well, unless you do not care about exact quantities.
is there any ETA on when everyone will be getting these switches?
Invoice paid! Totally going to give my QFR a makeover with Gateron Blacks :DI did that this past weekend with my Filco 104. :)
Very very cool! Are you planning on doing a write up? Would love to read about how you accomplished it and if there are any gotchas you encountered. This will be my first time desoldering/soldering. Nervous but ready.Invoice paid! Totally going to give my QFR a makeover with Gateron Blacks :DI did that this past weekend with my Filco 104. :)
is there any ETA on when everyone will be getting these switches?
When you do another montage parody :)
Is there any ETA for shipping?
Is there any ETA for shipping?
I'm also curious about this, I've got a hot new project board that needs switches! :)
Is there any ETA for shipping?
Just 3, I have 20 steel mountplates ordered to my house...Is there any ETA for shipping?
I'm also curious about this, I've got a hot new project board that needs switches! :)
Just one project? I have 3! :))
Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
This is great, Gateron is pretty fast, thanks for the update :)
I PM'd you about an addition to my order btw, are extra orders coming along okay?
Invoice paid! Totally going to give my QFR a makeover with Gateron Blacks :D
I must have missed it out. PM me again.
Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
Thanks for the update Shadovved.
I guess I'll have to buy myself a GON to put the switches on it as well!Is there any ETA for shipping?
The switches are sitting within some warehouse waiting for the next available pallet to Singapore.
Thanks for the update Shadovved.
My GON is ready for its Gateron goodness.
Shadovved have you recieved my PM about the extra order?
I did order 20 steel mounting plates from China, 60% ISO, Definetality has something to use the Gaterons on!
Custom made by a Chinese company.I did order 20 steel mounting plates from China, 60% ISO, Definetality has something to use the Gaterons on!
Where did you find them? Alibaba? Could you please send me a link? Thank you.
Custom made by a Chinese company.I did order 20 steel mounting plates from China, 60% ISO, Definetality has something to use the Gaterons on!
Where did you find them? Alibaba? Could you please send me a link? Thank you.
I think everyone who makes steel or aluminium plates will do it for you. Search on AliBaba. I cant find the manufacturer I used right now, but will post it when I find out.Custom made by a Chinese company.I did order 20 steel mounting plates from China, 60% ISO, Definetality has something to use the Gaterons on!
Where did you find them? Alibaba? Could you please send me a link? Thank you.
I should have been more clear: I was talking about the company, not the plates.
Shadovved have you recieved my PM about the extra order?
Check your PM
Shadovved have you recieved my PM about the extra order?
Check your PM
I haven't gotten anything from you :-0
Shadovved have you recieved my PM about the extra order?
Check your PM
I haven't gotten anything from you :-0
Then PM me again.
Invoice paid! Totally going to give my QFR a makeover with Gateron Blacks :D
Haha that's what I'm doing. I got some Vortex PBT too for it from massdrop as well not too long ago and if sprits case happens to fit it I might throw the QRF in there.
Are these extra orders going to delay the overall group buy's timing?
I'm sorry but who would I contact for more orders?
Just got a call from PayPal regarding this group buy. Just a heads up for everyone here.
The switches were ordered based on the original order list and are apparently in transit or about to be shipped. The extras are being sold to get rid of the switches that were ordered for non-paying participants. So it shouldn't be a problem, although the GB could be delayed for other reasons.
Just got a call from PayPal regarding this group buy. Just a heads up for everyone here.
Care to elaborate?
Just got a call from PayPal regarding this group buy. Just a heads up for everyone here.
Care to elaborate?
How long will the "Taking extra orders" will last?
Is the price still at of $0.16 per switch?
I missed the original GB and I need 2 more days to sort some expenses out. After that I would like to place an order for 120 Blacks.
Btw, we need to stop accepting orders for everything except clear switches & transparent switch tops. The rest are near the quota (Y)
Not sure buying Blacks is still an option at this point :Btw, we need to stop accepting orders for everything except clear switches & transparent switch tops. The rest are near the quota (Y)
PM'd for some extra Blacks :D
Not sure buying Blacks is still an option at this point :Btw, we need to stop accepting orders for everything except clear switches & transparent switch tops. The rest are near the quota (Y)
I just got 60 Blacks:PM'd for some extra Blacks :D
It's worth a try :thumb:
EDIT: 100 posts! :cool:
Any Gateron Clears or Reds available?
I wonder how 35g Clears and 45g Reds compare with MX Reds in terms of weight.
I'm going through my second round of "I can't decide if I should order." lol
updated the OP, sorry about that
Just an FYI: Shadovved told me, that there are still 2000-3000 clear switch tops left - so you still can happily order some of those ;)
I just changed the layout of the custom I want to build last night....and now I need 11 more clear switches...so if anyone ordered way over what they need (in the US) and ends up wanting to sell them or something, then please let me know!That's calculated very tightly. I would always order some overhead in case something goes wrong, especially when only $.16 per switch.
Or I guess I can just try and order some from Zeal? I don't know.
I just changed the layout of the custom I want to build last night....and now I need 11 more clear switches...so if anyone ordered way over what they need (in the US) and ends up wanting to sell them or something, then please let me know!That's calculated very tightly. I would always order some overhead in case something goes wrong, especially when only $.16 per switch.
Or I guess I can just try and order some from Zeal? I don't know.
YepI just changed the layout of the custom I want to build last night....and now I need 11 more clear switches...so if anyone ordered way over what they need (in the US) and ends up wanting to sell them or something, then please let me know!That's calculated very tightly. I would always order some overhead in case something goes wrong, especially when only $.16 per switch.
Or I guess I can just try and order some from Zeal? I don't know.
Didn't Shadovved say there weren't anymore switches left as he wanted to keep some stock in case a problem happens?
Would it be possible to add like just four blue switches to my order or is it really sold out?
Would it be possible to add like just four blue switches to my order or is it really sold out?
PM me after the GB, when I'm sending the packages out.
I can give up my blues in exchange for blacks, if anyone's interested.
Btw, do you guys have any idea whether the clear tops are as smooth as the stock tops?
I might be interested in like 80 of the 35g linears if you have some left to add to my order.
updated the OP, sorry about that
We are outta clears as well, I need to maintain a small buffer for accidents.Just an FYI: Shadovved told me, that there are still 2000-3000 clear switch tops left - so you still can happily order some of those ;)
And yes, we still have switch tops.....only switch tops left.
Shaddoved: you got the switches in your house now?
Any update on the ETA?
Where are you sending them from? US?Singapore
Gotta fill em with Gaterons :)
ISO 60%. I got them cut in China.Gotta fill em with Gaterons :)
What plates are these? You made them?
Am I missing something, the whole "clear vs stock tops" I was under the impression if I ordered say, 100xClear Switches that I would be getting 100xGateron Clear Switches with the Clear top? Or do I need to order the switches and the tops?Yes, you have to order them separately. The switches sold in this group buy are translucent, but milky. The extra switch tops are more clear.
Good to know -_- glad I caught this nowAm I missing something, the whole "clear vs stock tops" I was under the impression if I ordered say, 100xClear Switches that I would be getting 100xGateron Clear Switches with the Clear top? Or do I need to order the switches and the tops?Yes, you have to order them separately. The switches sold in this group buy are translucent, but milky. The extra switch tops are more clear.
Shaddoved: you got the switches in your house now?Any update on the ETA?
They just shipped out from China......slight delay expected, but should be able to send everything out by end of this month.
I forgot what I ordered o.o anyway to see what I did order?
I forgot what I ordered o.o anyway to see what I did order?
check your Paypal invoice?
Those look very good. I must have missed that ICSame here
Those look very good. I must have missed that IC
Those look very good. I must have missed that ICSame here
Interested :)Those look very good. I must have missed that ICThose look very good. I must have missed that ICSame here
It was together with my switch top GB, but due to lacking interest the GB fell through.
I'm intending to run it again after I settle the Gateron, probably June?
It's rather amusing to me that black stems are the least valued of the MX switches and yet apparently the most valued of the gateron switches. MX black has typically been the slowest seller, and that Pok3r GB only offered red, blue, brown, and clear, for example. I wonder if the glowing reviews from linear switch lovers have kicked up a little #hype storm.Those Gateron blacks are quite unique, not being as stiff as MX Blacks, but stiffer than MX Reds. They are supposedly smoother than MX ones too.
It's rather amusing to me that black stems are the least valued of the MX switches and yet apparently the most valued of the gateron switches. MX black has typically been the slowest seller, and that Pok3r GB only offered red, blue, brown, and clear, for example. I wonder if the glowing reviews from linear switch lovers have kicked up a little #hype storm.Those Gateron blacks are quite unique, not being as stiff as MX Blacks, but stiffer than MX Reds. They are supposedly smoother than MX ones too.
I finally got my PBT set samples......from my IC thread.
imsto, SP, GMK, new PBT set.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/tffJ9AZ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5eisVzM.jpg)
Imsto vs new PBT & GMKShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/b4h5Gas.jpg)
Grey comparison to GH gold pack setShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/g0aSNWS.jpg)
Full set & spacebarShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/VTYKBn0.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/3KYKn7V.jpg)
Colours (dark grey, light grey, beige, cool white, blinded by white.......dont use a full set of this)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/upcESMe.jpg)
This calls for a double-blind study
Colours (dark grey, light grey, beige, cool white, blinded by white.......dont use a full set of this)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/upcESMe.jpg)
Colours (dark grey, light grey, beige, cool white, blinded by white.......dont use a full set of this)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/upcESMe.jpg)
Woah, seems like I missed out on this IC as well! �_�
That far right 'blinded by white' looks super interesting!
It somehow looks very smooth or soft, almost Jelly POM like!
Is it slightly translucent or just very glossy? Why not use a full set of these, will you go blind? xD
Blanks only?
Oh, and I just received news the Gateron stuff will be arriving tomorrow.
Should be able to pickup by Friday :))
Oh, and I just received news the Gateron stuff will be arriving tomorrow.
Should be able to pickup by Friday :))
yeeeee
You know we will need pictures of this massive batch of switches right?!
Oh, and I just received news the Gateron stuff will be arriving tomorrow.
Should be able to pickup by Friday :))
Oh, and I just received news the Gateron stuff will be arriving tomorrow.
Should be able to pickup by Friday :))
yeeeee
You know we will need pictures of this massive batch of switches right?!
I'll take pictures when I visit the warehouse building, and when I get back :D
Fantastic.yeaaaaa!
Also a though I had the other day, if you're in direct contact with gateron, you should suggest them to do ergo-clear like switches :)
We want to see a bunch of boxes, a pile of switches, and small packages arriving at our doors.
Can't wait to get my blacks! ;DYes, i can't seem to find it online.
Just out of curiosity, roughly how long does it take to ship from Singapore to the U.S.?
murica.
The shipping time is probably not really revelant here since most of the waiting time will be because of the time it will take to shadovved to sort out, and package more than 100.000 switches.That's a good point, we definitely owe Shadovved a big thanks for dealing with all of those switches for us! :thumb: I guess I'll just have to be patient.
But I've had packages taking less than a week to do ASIA=>Europe, so should be about the same shipping time for murica.
So for us murica buyers.... these are being shipped to Shadovved in Singapore then out to hwood in the US to distribute? Do I have that right?
So for us murica buyers.... these are being shipped to Shadovved in Singapore then out to hwood in the US to distribute? Do I have that right?
Not only Murica buyers. Everyone. Russia to UK to Brazil to Australia.
Shipping time is estimated to be 7-10 days. And if your country is known to have inefficient customs.....then expect delays.
And I shall attempt to clear the switches in record time. Do I get a prize? :p
GATERON HAS LANDED!
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
HE LIVES! :thumb:
WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN *weep*
So for us murica buyers.... these are being shipped to Shadovved in Singapore then out to hwood in the US to distribute? Do I have that right?
Not only Murica buyers. Everyone. Russia to UK to Brazil to Australia.
Shipping time is estimated to be 7-10 days. And if your country is known to have inefficient customs.....then expect delays.
And I shall attempt to clear the switches in record time. Do I get a prize? :p
GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
HE LIVES! :thumb:
WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN *weep*
Dont you remind me on that now.
CROWDFUNDING FOR MY NEW LANDED PROPERTY :p
So for us murica buyers.... these are being shipped to Shadovved in Singapore then out to hwood in the US to distribute? Do I have that right?
Not only Murica buyers. Everyone. Russia to UK to Brazil to Australia.
Shipping time is estimated to be 7-10 days. And if your country is known to have inefficient customs.....then expect delays.
And I shall attempt to clear the switches in record time. Do I get a prize? :p
You sir get a prize for being awesome and coordinating a great GB for us. hwood too - he's going to have a lot to sort through when he receives them in the US. :)GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
HE LIVES! :thumb:
WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN *weep*
Dont you remind me on that now.
CROWDFUNDING FOR MY NEW LANDED PROPERTY :p
Those boxes! wow! That's a lot to carry up 4 flights of stairs :)) That must've taken quite a few trips huh?
And it took me nearly 30 trips because one box is more than 5kg (3200 switches).....I can only carry two at a time.
Shadovved right now:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/1HP2GV8.gif)
So for us murica buyers.... these are being shipped to Shadovved in Singapore then out to hwood in the US to distribute? Do I have that right?
Not only Murica buyers. Everyone. Russia to UK to Brazil to Australia.
Shipping time is estimated to be 7-10 days. And if your country is known to have inefficient customs.....then expect delays.
And I shall attempt to clear the switches in record time. Do I get a prize? :p
You sir get a prize for being awesome and coordinating a great GB for us. hwood too - he's going to have a lot to sort through when he receives them in the US. :)GATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
HE LIVES! :thumb:
WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN *weep*
Dont you remind me on that now.
CROWDFUNDING FOR MY NEW LANDED PROPERTY :p
Those boxes! wow! That's a lot to carry up 4 flights of stairs :)) That must've taken quite a few trips huh?
I'm sorting everything and posting directly. You get your stuff from me, not hwood.
And it took me nearly 30 trips because one box is more than 5kg (3200 switches).....I can only carry two at a time.
GATERON HAS LANDED!
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
GATERON HAS LANDED!
(Attachment Link)
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
WowGATERON HAS LANDED!
P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
HEY HEY. I had to carry it up FOUR FLOORS OF STAIRS.
My arms and legs are jelly now.......I shall rest for now.
I folded some boxes already. Any more and I'll be visiting the ER.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ARNQaF5.jpg)
GATERON HAS LANDED!
(Attachment Link)
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
GATERON HAS LANDED!
(Attachment Link)
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
A few switches I see.
Shadovved:
Says he's in the army but can't carry boxes upstairs?? How can we trust this man?! ;)
Can we get more pictures when you are done resting? :)GATERON HAS LANDED!
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
A few switches I see.
Shadovved:
Says he's in the army but can't carry boxes upstairs?? How can we trust this man?! ;)
I am in clerical work. The heaviest thing I lift on a daily basis is the damn hole puncher.
GATERON HAS LANDED!
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
Hey infiniti,
when will you be back to manila? Is there any chance you could hand carry some of the philippine orders? lol
GATERON HAS LANDED!
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
A few switches I see.
Shadovved:
Says he's in the army but can't carry boxes upstairs?? How can we trust this man?! ;)
I am in clerical work. The heaviest thing I lift on a daily basis is the damn hole puncher. :p
GATERON HAS LANDED!
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P.S. Shadovved is OK and rumors of his demise from carrying everything up to his place on the fourth floor are greatly exaggerated.
P.P.S. There's more that still has to be unloaded from the car.
Hey infiniti,
when will you be back to manila? Is there any chance you could hand carry some of the philippine orders? lol
Haha I'm still in Manila...but I'll be in Singapore next week on a business trip and I don't think I can bring much back with me with all the work stuff I need to lug around. :( Sorry bro...
This is so awesome! Just in time for my new ortholinearkeyboards.com purchase!!Welcome to Geekhack! :thumb:
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I want to bathe in them.
This doesn't make me weird right?
I want to bathe in them.
This doesn't make me weird right?
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Shipping Guidelines (we'll be using Singapore Post standard regular mail w/ added tracking)
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)I want to bathe in them.
This doesn't make me weird right?
I wish it's my pool too! The Gaterons I sampled feel great with minimal lube. :thumb:
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You will ship directly from Singapore to everyone or will hwood to the handling?
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You will ship directly from Singapore to everyone or will hwood to the handling?
He said he would be shipping directly from Singapore to everyone.
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I want to bathe in them.
This doesn't make me weird right?
Me too. Separately from you of course. Bathing together in them would make us weird.
Awesome, Gateron switches for dinner!Mhhmmmm, yummy! :p
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Oh yay, is there still a need to fill in any of the misisng orders? I sent a message to hwood but I never got a response.Never got a message from you sir
YepI just changed the layout of the custom I want to build last night....and now I need 11 more clear switches...so if anyone ordered way over what they need (in the US) and ends up wanting to sell them or something, then please let me know!That's calculated very tightly. I would always order some overhead in case something goes wrong, especially when only $.16 per switch.
Or I guess I can just try and order some from Zeal? I don't know.
Didn't Shadovved say there weren't anymore switches left as he wanted to keep some stock in case a problem happens?
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So when does the PBT GB start?
Those look very good. I must have missed that ICThose look very good. I must have missed that ICSame here
It was together with my switch top GB, but due to lacking interest the GB fell through.
I'm intending to run it again after I settle the Gateron, probably June?
Status update.Super impressed! Keep up the good work!
200 more orders to complete sorting.
with Gateron Switches, I can put LEDs inside, Yes?
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with Gateron Switches, I can put LEDs inside, Yes?
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with Gateron Switches, I can put LEDs inside, Yes?
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Status update.
200 more orders to complete sorting.
Status update.
200 more orders to complete sorting.
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Dude, one serving of gateron switches provides 40% of your daily suggested amount of fiber. Don't hate.Pics as requested. I will not be entertaining anymore order edits/address edits.
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I thought you were sorting them, not trying to eat them like cereal.
with Gateron Switches, I can put LEDs inside, Yes?
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with Gateron Switches, I can put LEDs inside, Yes?Do you have any example with the housing closed? :o
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Originally the chamber at the Electronic Switch bottoms are generally meant to be used for Diodes, LEDs, Resistors, etc
Alps switches have the same chamber too.
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Sure can put LED. It's one of the things I liked about it as I am guessing the translucent should help carry the light all around similar to Cherry MX RGBShow Image(http://www.sweclockers.com/image/red/2014/01/09/Corsair-1.jpg?t=original&k=c25f1a91)
The Cherry MX RGB switches have a lens in them. Not sure what difference it makes...Originally the chamber at the Electronic Switch bottoms are generally meant to be used for Diodes, LEDs, Resistors, etc
Alps switches have the same chamber too.
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:cool: Cool~ So it will probably look like that in the Cosair RGB, like the image IvanIvanovich attached?
The Cherry MX RGB switches have a lens in them. Not sure what difference it makes...Originally the chamber at the Electronic Switch bottoms are generally meant to be used for Diodes, LEDs, Resistors, etc
Alps switches have the same chamber too.
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:cool: Cool~ So it will probably look like that in the Cosair RGB, like the image IvanIvanovich attached?
The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
Damn. That's super fast! This GB may be one of the fastest GBs to have ever taken place, ha. Thanks so much Shadovved!The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
Yay! Ordered 200 in total.The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
I ordered almost 400, guess I'll have to wait a little longer.The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
Wow wp! So much efficiency indeed.The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
The first 200 orders have been shipped out.
The remainder will go out probably by next Monday, since I'll be super busy on weekdays.
All shipped by Next Monday, what kind of magic are you using Shadovved ?!
Well. That's my efficiency. I dont like to wait and waste time, and they take up space as well.
I should probably start running GBs for people :D
Wow that's quick!
How do we know if we are part of the first 200?
If you ordered less than 250 pcs total, you are probably in.
200 or less is definitely in.
Do we get any confimartion email? I ordered 70 so possibly I'm one of those that shipped
Came here to ask about that!Do we get any confimartion email? I ordered 70 so possibly I'm one of those that shipped
I am withholding that confirmation email till I have tracking numbers for everyone
Do we get any confimartion email? I ordered 70 so possibly I'm one of those that shipped
I am withholding that confirmation email till I have tracking numbers for everyone
Do we get any confimartion email? I ordered 70 so possibly I'm one of those that shipped
I am withholding that confirmation email till I have tracking numbers for everyone
You missed a question, what about the clear tops orders? Same deal? More then 200 total will be shipped next week?
Do we get any confimartion email? I ordered 70 so possibly I'm one of those that shipped
I am withholding that confirmation email till I have tracking numbers for everyone
You missed a question, what about the clear tops orders? Same deal? More then 200 total will be shipped next week?
200 pcs combined for tops & switches. I ship both together.
wtf there are orders already shipped?
someone hold me, I'm not used to this kind of neck breaking turnaround time. shouldnt this take like a year or something?
wtf there are orders already shipped?
someone hold me, I'm not used to this kind of neck breaking turnaround time. shouldnt this take like a year or something?
wtf there are orders already shipped?
someone hold me, I'm not used to this kind of neck breaking turnaround time. shouldnt this take like a year or something?
I packed another 100 orders so far.
Probably can ship out by Friday!
wtf there are orders already shipped?
someone hold me, I'm not used to this kind of neck breaking turnaround time. shouldnt this take like a year or something?
I packed another 100 orders so far.
Probably can ship out by Friday!Show Image(http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/101-are-you-a-wizard.jpg)
wtf there are orders already shipped?
someone hold me, I'm not used to this kind of neck breaking turnaround time. shouldnt this take like a year or something?
I packed another 100 orders so far.
Probably can ship out by Friday!
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...I'm not sure what you're basing this off of, but I've had the pleasure of using gateron blacks for about a month, and found them to be absolutely lovely.
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...So what problems are you having exactly?
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...So what problems are you having exactly?
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...So what problems are you having exactly?
Problems of not being able to sell Topre parts maybe?
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...I think I saw a troll ...
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...I think I saw a troll ...Show Image(http://cdn.meme.li/instances/300x300/61513162.jpg)
Do Gaterons take round leds, or only rectangular ones?
Do Gaterons take round leds, or only rectangular ones?
Anyone that can answer this; or, should I have to wait until my samples arrived?
Do Gaterons take round leds, or only rectangular ones?
Anyone that can answer this; or, should I have to wait until my samples arrived?
not sure if that's helping but I had not problem putting 1.8mm led on the gaterons:Show Image(http://www.ledsales.com.au/shop/images/1.8mmleds.jpg)
Are you worried about the bottom not fitting or the top part getting in the way ?
Do Gaterons take round leds, or only rectangular ones?
Anyone that can answer this; or, should I have to wait until my samples arrived?
not sure if that's helping but I had not problem putting 1.8mm led on the gaterons:Show Image(http://www.ledsales.com.au/shop/images/1.8mmleds.jpg)
Are you worried about the bottom not fitting or the top part getting in the way ?
Thank you very much for the answer. In particular, I would like to know if the bottom and wall of the LED holder notch in the switch housing has the cylindrical shape, as the Cherry switches do. If you check a Cherry switch they have a round cut in the main body of the switch, in the LED holder notch, that allow the installation of both squared or round shaped LEDs.
I'm not home but I'll verify tonight.Do Gaterons take round leds, or only rectangular ones?
Anyone that can answer this; or, should I have to wait until my samples arrived?
not sure if that's helping but I had not problem putting 1.8mm led on the gaterons:Show Image(http://www.ledsales.com.au/shop/images/1.8mmleds.jpg)
Are you worried about the bottom not fitting or the top part getting in the way ?
Thank you very much for the answer. In particular, I would like to know if the bottom and wall of the LED holder notch in the switch housing has the cylindrical shape, as the Cherry switches do. If you check a Cherry switch they have a round cut in the main body of the switch, in the LED holder notch, that allow the installation of both squared or round shaped LEDs.
This was the other day, the first batch sent out.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KGIMcRK.jpg)
This is today's progress.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBDrVpX.jpg)
This was the other day, the first batch sent out.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KGIMcRK.jpg)
This is today's progress.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBDrVpX.jpg)
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This was the other day, the first batch sent out.Me reading the updatesShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/KGIMcRK.jpg)
This is today's progress.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/HBDrVpX.jpg)
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Same here actually..Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
Damn that looks good! Makes me wish I had ordered some of those clear tops!
These switches are ****ing terrible though :< are people only using them for the transparent tops? The construction is much worse than a Cherry MX...
FWIW, I currently use two 60% (a GH60revB and a FaceW) and a full size (Filco Majestouch-2) with stock Gateron blacks. No complaints from me.
I'm down to about 20 Gateron black switches left, so I need my GB switches to come soon. :)
Those clear tops look fantastic!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bmPQHUf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
oh damn, nice build! these are what switch stickers were always made for ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bmPQHUf.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jvRU301.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mEopen5.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7Qe16rQ.jpg)
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Awesome build and sweet shots man! :)
Is the last picture a lubing station?
Really love the last shot! It makes stock Gateron with stickers almost look better then clear tops to me! :thumb:
For the frosted case clear was probably the way to go, but snap would those look smexy on a dark plate... Ö_Ö
Will we receive confirmation once our orders have shipped?
Will we receive confirmation once our orders have shipped?
I will send out the tracking numbers via email after all the orders are shipped.
Awesome, thanks dude!Will we receive confirmation once our orders have shipped?
I will send out the tracking numbers via email after all the orders are shipped.
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Some pages on GateronsThanks for compiling these resources.
http://www.baidu.com (http://www.baidu.com) > Gateron
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3118495285 (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3118495285)
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3120448793 (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3120448793)
http://weistang.com/thread-816-1-1.html (http://weistang.com/thread-816-1-1.html)
http://mouse.zol.com.cn/503/5037494.html (http://mouse.zol.com.cn/503/5037494.html)
http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-566627-1-1.html (http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-566627-1-1.html)
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What keyboard is that?
My switches just arrived :thumb: ! Thumbs up, this GB was really fast and smooth!
Impressive indeed, I guess he was part off the first batch of the 250- orders.My switches just arrived :thumb: ! Thumbs up, this GB was really fast and smooth!
Denmark? wow, that was fast. Post some pictures.
My switches just arrived :thumb: ! Thumbs up, this GB was really fast and smooth!
Just got my 100 black switches. :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ah0tBah.jpg)
Just sent out email w/ tracking for everyone's stuff who has shipped.Just got my notice Shadovved! Thanks so much for the quick turnaround, I hope you give yourself a nice break when this GB is complete! :thumb:
Another 127 will go out on Monday & Tuesday.
I ordered 300 blacks and 70 clear tops. Haven't received a shipping notice but getting excited to get these! Hopefully I'm in the 127 going out on Monday or Tuesday :) is there any way to know which batch I'm in?
I ordered 300 blacks and 70 clear tops. Haven't received a shipping notice but getting excited to get these! Hopefully I'm in the 127 going out on Monday or Tuesday :) is there any way to know which batch I'm in?
Why not just wait? These guys are very busy shipping many orders already; that, there is no reason to bother them more just to know an ETA.
I need the tracking code because otherwise Brazilian post will mess the delivery. :(I ordered 300 blacks and 70 clear tops. Haven't received a shipping notice but getting excited to get these! Hopefully I'm in the 127 going out on Monday or Tuesday :) is there any way to know which batch I'm in?
Why not just wait? These guys are very busy shipping many orders already; that, there is no reason to bother them more just to know an ETA.
I haven't received an email yet :(
I need the tracking code because otherwise Brazilian post will mess the delivery. :(I ordered 300 blacks and 70 clear tops. Haven't received a shipping notice but getting excited to get these! Hopefully I'm in the 127 going out on Monday or Tuesday :) is there any way to know which batch I'm in?
Why not just wait? These guys are very busy shipping many orders already; that, there is no reason to bother them more just to know an ETA.
Am I the only on who has ordered too much and has to wait a day longer for it to ship!?! :'(no I can't even remember my precise number 500+ iircShow Image(https://thelibdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/post-8744-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-hd-lkhv.gif)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Good seeing you again Shadovved and Thanks for the switches!
Now to figure out what to do with them all... :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KiIWY6C.jpg)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Good seeing you again Shadovved and Thanks for the switches!
Now to figure out what to do with them all... :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KiIWY6C.jpg)
How come? You have not prepared well in advance a nice PCB to get them? LOL
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Good seeing you again Shadovved and Thanks for the switches!
Now to figure out what to do with them all... :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/KiIWY6C.jpg)
How come? You have not prepared well in advance a nice PCB to get them? LOL
Agreed cmadrid. If anyone could spare me a handful of brown Gaterons I'd be very interested and gratefulI've got browns on the way, if you can't find any closer to you I'm happy to send a few over.
Am I the only on who has ordered too much and has to wait a day longer for it to ship!?! :'(no I can't even remember my precise number 500+ iircShow Image(https://thelibdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/post-8744-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-hd-lkhv.gif)
520 ;)Am I the only on who has ordered too much and has to wait a day longer for it to ship!?! :'(no I can't even remember my precise number 500+ iircShow Image(https://thelibdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/post-8744-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-hd-lkhv.gif)
Am I the only on who has ordered too much and has to wait a day longer for it to ship!?! :'(no I can't even remember my precise number 500+ iircShow Image(https://thelibdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/post-8744-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-hd-lkhv.gif)
Ahaha you guys are lucky, only 105 here and no news yet < trying to not join the whining gang but given up as always ;D
How long should it be for my package to get to east coast?The award for most impatient comment goes to....
Am I the only on who has ordered too much and has to wait a day longer for it to ship!?! :'(no I can't even remember my precise number 500+ iircShow Image(https://thelibdotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/post-8744-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-hd-lkhv.gif)
Ahaha you guys are lucky, only 105 here and no news yet < trying to not join the whining gang but given up as always ;D
Impossible. If you ordered 105 it should be posted already.
PM me your PayPal email
Hello.
I've been receiving PMs regarding shipping status of your orders.
Just to repeat, if you have gotten an email regarding your tracking number then your item has shipped.
Please do check your junk/spam folder for the email as well.
Is Shadovved human? He has some insane turn around with the qty of pieces going out!
Wouldn't have a problem with that. :))Is Shadovved human? He has some insane turn around with the qty of pieces going out!
With practice comes perfection :p
I should volunteer to run more GBs HAHAHA
Wouldn't have a problem with that. :))Is Shadovved human? He has some insane turn around with the qty of pieces going out!
With practice comes perfection :p
I should volunteer to run more GBs HAHAHA
No shipping notice yet. :-\
No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Too big order? Would be curious to know what was the biggest order made? 2000+ switches?No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:
No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:
Bunny made a big order:Too big order? Would be curious to know what was the biggest order made? 2000+ switches?No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:
ordered about 1300 to get you started
Bunny made a big order:Too big order? Would be curious to know what was the biggest order made? 2000+ switches?No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:ordered about 1300 to get you started
Bunny made a big order:Too big order? Would be curious to know what was the biggest order made? 2000+ switches?No shipping notice yet. :-\
Me neither, but it will come.
I am sure. It is just that seeing all those nice packages makes the waiting a little bit harder, :thumb:
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:ordered about 1300 to get you started
Hint: it's not bunny.
With practice comes perfection :p
Tomorrow. All will be delivered except 10 packages, which will go out on Thursday because of a lack of suitable sized boxes. :thumb:Is that one order split into 10 packages? If they are different orders then how many switch orders does this involve (I.e. orders with X to Y switches will go out Thursday).
ordered 100 blacks. Got dispatched oversees on 4-21 and is out for delivery today. Took about a week to reach me here on the west coast U.S.
ordered 100 blacks. Got dispatched oversees on 4-21 and is out for delivery today. Took about a week to reach me here on the west coast U.S.
Wait, they allow that on the West Coast? I thought that was just a Southern thing a hundred plus years ago.
I've noticed it a hundred times on the forum. We're always describing the switches as "blacks", "browns", "reds", "whites'", etc. It looks even worse when people declare how much they hate on or the other. I actually correct my language as much as I can. Thankfully there don't seem to be any SJWs here to blow it out of proportion.
I've noticed it a hundred times on the forum. We're always describing the switches as "blacks", "browns", "reds", "whites'", etc. It looks even worse when people declare how much they hate on or the other. I actually correct my language as much as I can. Thankfully there don't seem to be any SJWs here to blow it out of proportion.
Once you go black you don't go back :cool:
Smooth, but heavy. I need to swap springs with mine because I am so used to lighter switchesI've noticed it a hundred times on the forum. We're always describing the switches as "blacks", "browns", "reds", "whites'", etc. It looks even worse when people declare how much they hate on or the other. I actually correct my language as much as I can. Thankfully there don't seem to be any SJWs here to blow it out of proportion.
Once you go black you don't go back 8)
They're so smooth.
Anyone else had theirs stuck at "Origin Post is Preparing Shipment"?From my experience, that just means it's processing in the country it was shipped from.
Got mine today, and Clears are too light for me. Anyone want to trade some Browns or Blacks for my Clears? PM me if you're interested!
Sent to a wrong city :-\ you got the street name right though.
I can see in the tracking that it is at the wrong city dispatch centre.
[edit] followed the french postal offices procedure in such case, they will re route it if possible. Will keep you tuned if I have any news.
Got mine yesterday, black ones! Very fast shipping indeed! Haven't installed them yet, but they appear to be super smooth, much more so than my cherry mx reds. They're also a tad heavier than cherry mx red, but not by much. Has anyone tried lubing black gaterons? Thinking about trying it before installing these, even though they seem very smooth already, so not sure if it will really make much of a difference.https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70676.0
Tracking code received, now it's time for the waiting game. If I'm lucky it'll be delivered in June.
Do not underestimate the incompetence of the Brazilian post. :( At least with a tracking code I can complain if it takes too long.Tracking code received, now it's time for the waiting game. If I'm lucky it'll be delivered in June.
In May probably.
Can anyone help me out? On the singapost website it says that my package got dispached to overseas but the tracking is not registered with the italian post service. Where is my package?It got the same thing, I think it means it's on his way to your country but hasn't arrived or been scanned yet in Italy.
Can anyone help me out? On the singapost website it says that my package got dispached to overseas but the tracking is not registered with the italian post service. Where is my package?
got my shipping notification today. thats exciting... :)
Got my shipment e-mail today!Only about 1000, so totally within reason. :)got my shipping notification today. thats exciting... :)
How many switches are you ending up with?
Wasn't it more like 4000 at some point to get the Browns over the 20k mark?Got my shipment e-mail today!Only about 1000, so totally within reason. :)got my shipping notification today. thats exciting... :)
How many switches are you ending up with?
Yes. I initially ordered over 4500 to make sure the browns hit moq for the price break. Luckily that act encouraged others to buy some browns and it hit moq without my order. I still purchased 500 browns, but not because I had to. :)Wasn't it more like 4000 at some point to get the Browns over the 20k mark?Got my shipment e-mail today!Only about 1000, so totally within reason. :)got my shipping notification today. thats exciting... :)
How many switches are you ending up with?
I got my shipping notice today, finally.Finally!? This has to be the fastest gb in GH history!
I got my shipping notice today,finallydamn that was fast.
I got my shipping notice today,finallydamn that was fast.
I got my shipping notice today,finallydamn that was fast.
Hehe, that is right, it was fast.
Looks like mine just emerged from customs in NYC.
Same here, got everything for my keyboard minus the switches I'm so anxious to start my first custom build!Looks like mine just emerged from customs in NYC.
Mine too! Can't wait to get my hands on these beauties.
Good luck on your project! Have fun.Same here, got everything for my keyboard minus the switches I'm so anxious to start my first custom build!Looks like mine just emerged from customs in NYC.
Mine too! Can't wait to get my hands on these beauties.
Shaddovved, did some not go out today? I ask only since you said they'd all be out today and I didn't get a tracking number yet.I got my shipping notice today,finallydamn that was fast.
Hehe, that is right, it was fast.
Probably the fastest of this size I have ever seen.
Check your junk/spam folder.
It's to the contrastprint email.
Got mine today!
(http://i.imgur.com/bhWWB3gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/bhWWB3g)
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Check your junk/spam folder.
It's to the contrastprint email.
Do it! :P It looks great though it is a pain to open these switches without the proper tools.(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)Thanks for the comparison pic! This has convinced me to get some switch stickers. :)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
I'll be definitely interested to see this led comparison as I wonder whether to buy some or not for my gaterons.Do it! It looks great though it is a pain to open these switches without the proper tools.(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)Thanks for the comparison pic! This has convinced me to get some switch stickers. :)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
I'll try comparing led lightspread later this week.
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Interesting, is it just me, or is the Arbostudio completely clear while the Gateron clear is a bit greyish?
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Thanks for the comparison pic! This has convinced me to get some switch stickers. :)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71380.0(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Thanks for the comparison pic! This has convinced me to get some switch stickers. :)
How would one go about getting stickers?
(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Thanks for the comparison pic! This has convinced me to get some switch stickers. :)
How would one go about getting stickers?
@Jaccow looks awesome, btw. Hoping to get something similar with the tops and clears/blacks that are currently en route to my address :)
What would have been perfect though is if the ErgoDox had an option for backlighting, giving me a good reason to SIP socket each switch, while applying stickers, lube and the clear tops. Pure OCD bliss.
beat ya by 1 second, though I didn't come up with the link lolWat up bruh? :p
beat ya by 1 second, though I didn't come up with the link lolWat up bruh? :p
Mostly this. It's the finish but even without that the plastic of the Gaterons is slightly "greyer".the surroundings of the Gateron clear one has a little bit of a matte finish when you zoom in a bit. I think that's why it might look a bit greyish to you. ^-^(http://i.imgur.com/fvNc83gl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/fvNc83g)Interesting, is it just me, or is the Arbostudio completely clear while the Gateron clear is a bit greyish?
And a quick comparison between 2nd round Arbostudio clear tops, Gateron clear tops and regular Gateron tops. :)
Hey, Shadovved, is everything shipped? I don't think I got an email. Checked the junk folder.I'm in the same boat. I ordered 80 switch tops and haven't gotten an email.
Hey, Shadovved, is everything shipped? I don't think I got an email. Checked the junk folder.
Sent to a wrong city :-\ you got the street name right though.
I can see in the tracking that it is at the wrong city dispatch centre.
[edit] followed the french postal offices procedure in such case, they will re route it if possible. Will keep you tuned if I have any news.
Alright, I'll keep you posted if it gets returned.
Sent to a wrong city :-\ you got the street name right though.
I can see in the tracking that it is at the wrong city dispatch centre.
[edit] followed the french postal offices procedure in such case, they will re route it if possible. Will keep you tuned if I have any news.
Alright, I'll keep you posted if it gets returned.
Tracking shows it's on it way to you : Back to sender.
Findecanor just created a DT wiki entry (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Gateron_KS-3_series#cite_note-massdrop-2) for Gaterons if anyone is curious
"GATERON black shaft" "GATERON white shaft"
got my switches!Can anyone chime on how much a difference in weight there is between stock gateron blacks, and cherry mx black? I thought the gateron variant was quite a bit lighter, but I've seen some people also describing them as heavy. Thanks! :)
first impressions:
Gateron blue: did a blind test and picked these every time, I feel like they are more solid than MX.
Gateron brown: not much of a difference.
Gateron black: holy crap this is heavy
Gateron clear: holy crap this is light
got my switches!Can anyone chime on how much a difference in weight there is between stock gateron blacks, and cherry mx black? I thought the gateron variant was quite a bit lighter, but I've seen some people also describing them as heavy. Thanks! :)
first impressions:
Gateron blue: did a blind test and picked these every time, I feel like they are more solid than MX.
Gateron brown: not much of a difference.
Gateron black: holy crap this is heavy
Gateron clear: holy crap this is light
Got mine today too. I didn't order much as I wasn't sure I would like them. I will need more... but I want to try red and yellow too.
The blacks are really good. The blues have a much more satisfying click than Cherry and a better tone. I think the clears are going to be a bit too light for practical use.
Thanks wlhlm! :thumb:got my switches!Can anyone chime on how much a difference in weight there is between stock gateron blacks, and cherry mx black? I thought the gateron variant was quite a bit lighter, but I've seen some people also describing them as heavy. Thanks! :)
first impressions:
Gateron blue: did a blind test and picked these every time, I feel like they are more solid than MX.
Gateron brown: not much of a difference.
Gateron black: holy crap this is heavy
Gateron clear: holy crap this is light
Rip-O-Meter science (https://imgur.com/a/VUqVE) by wscarlton:
Cherry:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7omWa5I.jpg)
Gateron:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/TDEL4XM.jpg)
Sent to a wrong city :-\ you got the street name right though.
I can see in the tracking that it is at the wrong city dispatch centre.
[edit] followed the french postal offices procedure in such case, they will re route it if possible. Will keep you tuned if I have any news.
Alright, I'll keep you posted if it gets returned.
Tracking shows it's on it way to you : Back to sender.
I'll get your address from you again when I receive the package.
Got my 100 black switches today! Thank you!!!!!
Now let me ask a question.. Would it be a good idea to remove the kalih switches off a Noppoo Lolita Spyder 87?
Im looking for a TKL layout, and i feel like buying a pcb + plates + case ect ect ect would cost more than just buying the Noppoo and re soldering the switches.
Anyone know if I'm good to cut the PCB pins off these?
Got my package today.Shadovved have said long ago that he would be using an electronic scale to sort the switches by weight. This method can be very inaccurate sometimes. That's why I bought more switches than I need, exactly to avoid this.
Ordered 100 Brown - check! :thumb:
Ordered 90 Clear - got 89. :-\
Ordered 90 Black - got 88. :(
I appreciate the fast turnaround time but I would have gladly waited longer for accuracy. Thanks though.
Got my package today.Shadovved have said long ago that he would be using an electronic scale to sort the switches by weight. This method can be very inaccurate sometimes. That's why I bought more switches than I need, exactly to avoid this.
Ordered 100 Brown - check! :thumb:
Ordered 90 Clear - got 89. :-\
Ordered 90 Black - got 88. :(
I appreciate the fast turnaround time but I would have gladly waited longer for accuracy. Thanks though.
Got my switches! Everything was as ordered, many thanks to hwood and especially Shadovvod ;D
Anyone know if I'm good to cut the PCB pins off these?
Got my switches! Everything was as ordered, many thanks to hwood and especially Shadovvod ;D
Anyone know if I'm good to cut the PCB pins off these?
They're your switches, you can do what you want with them.
Got my package today.Shadovved have said long ago that he would be using an electronic scale to sort the switches by weight. This method can be very inaccurate sometimes. That's why I bought more switches than I need, exactly to avoid this.
Ordered 100 Brown - check! :thumb:
Ordered 90 Clear - got 89. :-\
Ordered 90 Black - got 88. :(
I appreciate the fast turnaround time but I would have gladly waited longer for accuracy. Thanks though.
If you mount them in a plate, the two pcb pins are not needed and can be cut without any ill effect.Got my switches! Everything was as ordered, many thanks to hwood and especially Shadovvod ;D
Anyone know if I'm good to cut the PCB pins off these?
They're your switches, you can do what you want with them.
What I meant was, will it mess up the switches to do so?
sweet! thanksIf you mount them in a plate, the two pcb pins are not needed and can be cut without any ill effect.Got my switches! Everything was as ordered, many thanks to hwood and especially Shadovvod ;D
Anyone know if I'm good to cut the PCB pins off these?
They're your switches, you can do what you want with them.
What I meant was, will it mess up the switches to do so?
I have a plate mount board but a pcb that has holes for the extra supports, so I keep them on.
Blacks: heavy spring, heavier than Cherry Blacks and, from memory, Clears. Not as smooth as I was expecting. They felt a little gritty to me too. They're more stable, but not buttery smooth. Still nice.Are you comparing against vintage or worn-in Cherry MX? When I tested, I found them to be more smooth than brand new switches but less smooth than my vintage switches.
Anyone else's switches go through/get stuck in Opa Locka, FL? It is, quite possibly, the worst USPS distribution center in the entire US (http://www.yellowpages.com/opa-locka-fl/mip/us-post-office-472309766), so naturally it's the one my package got sent to.
Blacks: heavy spring, heavier than Cherry Blacks and, from memory, Clears.Is this consistent throughout multiple switches? Rip-O-Meter says same as MX Black.
Blacks: heavy spring, heavier than Cherry Blacks and, from memory, Clears. Not as smooth as I was expecting. They felt a little gritty to me too. They're more stable, but not buttery smooth. Still nice.Are you comparing against vintage or worn-in Cherry MX? When I tested, I found them to be more smooth than brand new switches but less smooth than my vintage switches.
When I placed a new Cherry MX Black switch against a Gateron Black and pressed together, the Gateron started moving first indicating that it has a lighter starting resistance.
Blacks: heavy spring, heavier than Cherry Blacks and, from memory, Clears. Not as smooth as I was expecting. They felt a little gritty to me too. They're more stable, but not buttery smooth. Still nice.Are you comparing against vintage or worn-in Cherry MX? When I tested, I found them to be more smooth than brand new switches but less smooth than my vintage switches.
When I placed a new Cherry MX Black switch against a Gateron Black and pressed together, the Gateron started moving first indicating that it has a lighter starting resistance.
Blacks: heavy spring, heavier than Cherry Blacks and, from memory, Clears.Is this consistent throughout multiple switches? Rip-O-Meter says same as MX Black.
Anyone else's switches go through/get stuck in Opa Locka, FL? It is, quite possibly, the worst USPS distribution center in the entire US (http://www.yellowpages.com/opa-locka-fl/mip/us-post-office-472309766), so naturally it's the one my package got sent to.
Mine didn't go through Opa Locka, but I've had a package get stuck there in the past. They really suck. Hope your switches come soon!
I don't know what y'all talking about. Mine fit into the PCB just fine without modification.
I don't know what y'all talking about. Mine fit into the PCB just fine without modification.
They wouldn't fit without forcing into my unused Butterfly PCB. Can't help it if your holes are a little worn out and/or loose.
I don't know what y'all talking about. Mine fit into the PCB just fine without modification.Yep, fit well into my GH60 clone as well.
Anyone else's switches go through/get stuck in Opa Locka, FL? It is, quite possibly, the worst USPS distribution center in the entire US (http://www.yellowpages.com/opa-locka-fl/mip/us-post-office-472309766), so naturally it's the one my package got sent to.I feel your pain. I'm having a problem with the post office at the moment.
People, please tell me why do you buy those switches? What are the features? The named features I've read so far are: "magical". ;-)I bought them because Cherry is out of stock everywhere
People, please tell me the reason why you want those switches? What are the features? The named features I've read so far are: "magical". ;-)
People, please tell me the reason why you want those switches? What are the features? The named features I've read so far are: "magical". ;-)
I like Gateron Blacks more than Cherry Blacks for two reasons:
1) Gateron Blacks are noticeably smoother than Cherry Blacks. There is no scratchy or rubbing feeling like there is with Cherry.
2) Gateron Blacks have consistently quiet and smooth springs whereas maybe 1 out of every 10 Cherry Blacks have a springy sound / feeling. (something I've noticed anyways)
Mine apparently has departed since 21st and is still somewhere out there. =P
I'd rather they be stuck in customs or a sorting facility, at least I would know they are on land lol.
People, please tell me the reason why you want those switches? What are the features? The named features I've read so far are: "magical". ;-)The housings are white and I am building a custom keyboard that is white...
Mine apparently has departed since 21st and is still somewhere out there. =P
I'd rather they be stuck in customs or a sorting facility, at least I would know they are on land lol.
My USPS page has looked like this all week... haha.
Got my switches today, thanks Shadovved!
For the sake of the weight/count question, I ordered 300 blacks, and they came in two bags of 150. One bag was perfect, and the other was three short. No complaints...
As for the feel, they are suuuuuuuper smooth. I will know better tomorrow after I handwire a keyboard to properly test them.
Aparantly the USPS guy didn't knock today. I know this because my 3 dogs go NUTS when someone knocks. Going to have to wait till monday. Gettin' the Gat sweats over here! It's fine though, as I still don't know which switches are going where!
Aparantly the USPS guy didn't knock today. I know this because my 3 dogs go NUTS when someone knocks. Going to have to wait till monday. Gettin' the Gat sweats over here! It's fine though, as I still don't know which switches are going where!
My elderly mailwoman rang the doorbell once; I was in my downstairs office. By the time I made it to the front door, she was in her vehicle stuffing things into my mailbox and driving away. One of those things was a fully filled out "Sorry we just missed you!" card. By the amount of text she wrote on that card, I know damn well she filled it out before even approaching my house. I work from home so I'm used to these ****heads (USPS, UPS, FedEx; they're all the same) assuming no one's home in the middle of the day... still annoying everytime though. Packages that require signatures are usually the best packages. :)
Aparantly the USPS guy didn't knock today. I know this because my 3 dogs go NUTS when someone knocks. Going to have to wait till monday. Gettin' the Gat sweats over here! It's fine though, as I still don't know which switches are going where!
My elderly mailwoman rang the doorbell once; I was in my downstairs office. By the time I made it to the front door, she was in her vehicle stuffing things into my mailbox and driving away. One of those things was a fully filled out "Sorry we just missed you!" card. By the amount of text she wrote on that card, I know damn well she filled it out before even approaching my house. I work from home so I'm used to these ****heads (USPS, UPS, FedEx; they're all the same) assuming no one's home in the middle of the day... still annoying everytime though. Packages that require signatures are usually the best packages. :)
Got my clears yesterday, modded them late into the night(lube and 62g springs), and soldered them into my KUL today. Shadovved, you're the man. This is the best and fastest groupbuy I've ever been apart of. Thank you <3lookin good :thumb:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ebb8tpQ.jpg)
REVIEW - These gateron linear clears are the smoothest I think cherry MX can possibly be. They are literally FRICTIONLESS. If reds feel like pencil on paper, these feel like rubbing a warm stick of butter in a hot frypan. If you press a switch down slowly, you feel no little bumps or scratches or anything. I think this is as good as cherry mx can get for me, next is to add topre and buckling springs to my collection. (X-post from reddit)
REVIEW - These gateron linear clears are the smoothest I think cherry MX can possibly be. They are literally FRICTIONLESS. If reds feel like pencil on paper, these feel like rubbing a warm stick of butter in a hot frypan. If you press a switch down slowly, you feel no little bumps or scratches or anything. I think this is as good as cherry mx can get for me, next is to add topre and buckling springs to my collection. (X-post from reddit)
I don't know if it's just me, but I actually found the gaterons to be much more wobbly than stock cherries. Side to side and front to back.
A quick observation I made...
If you have a board where your switch tops show and you don't like the translucent or clear tops provided by this group buy... a black switch top from a Cherry MX switch actually works just as well. The Cherry tops fit just as snugly as the Gateron ones do and do not cause the switch to wiggle as Cherry switches do. The "optimal girth" Gateron speaks of appears to be with the bottom portion of the housing and not the top.
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Edit: 200th post! :o
Damn you post lady!
She is lazy and never want to get out of her car so packages that don't fit in the mailbox are marked as "Notice Left" but she doesn't even leave a notice!!! EVER!!!!
Now I have to wait till Monday to pick it up and I ain't got time for that -__-
Damn you post lady!
She is lazy and never want to get out of her car so packages that don't fit in the mailbox are marked as "Notice Left" but she doesn't even leave a notice!!! EVER!!!!
Now I have to wait till Monday to pick it up and I ain't got time for that -__-
I'd call the post office and let them know what she is up to. Postage paid, service nill. My post lady brought something to the door twice last week, thx Shadovved.
Shadovved,For the sake of the weight/count question, I ordered 300 blacks, and they came in two bags of 150. One bag was perfect, and the other was three short. No complaints...
I use an electronic balance to weigh the switches, uncertainty is around +-2. Sorry about that :(
I must be getting wrecked by Aussie customs. The switches were sent last Monday, but there still hasn't been an update beyond that - not even an indication of arrival. The wait is painful :(German customs is killing me as well! :(
I got, but omitted 300blacks and 5 clears from my order. The box was too small to filled my total order.
I got, but omitted 300blacks and 5 clears from my order. The box was too small to filled my total order.
I probably missed out your 300 blacks
5 clears was my margin of error. I'll send it to you then.
I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I've run into some problems with my Gaterons. I haven't installed them yet, but after swapping out the springs and testing the weight I noticed that my caps (GMK) catch on the switch housing. I believe it is the bottom of the stem hitting against the lip of the rectangle that the slide descends into. This only happens on the side opposite the Gateron logo. When I push the cap even slightly in that direction (towards myself if they were installed) the cap "sticks" and won't go down without a lot of force. Other than that the switches are super smooth. This the first time I've dealt with switches of any kind outside of a keyboard, so I don't know if this is normal or if it wouldn't happen once they're installed. This isn't a problem with all of the switches, but it does effect most of them (only 4 of the 20 that I tested worked without catching).
I don't know if I described what's happening very well, and if anyone has any tips or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I've run into some problems with my Gaterons. I haven't installed them yet, but after swapping out the springs and testing the weight I noticed that my caps (GMK) catch on the switch housing. I believe it is the bottom of the stem hitting against the lip of the rectangle that the slide descends into. This only happens on the side opposite the Gateron logo. When I push the cap even slightly in that direction (towards myself if they were installed) the cap "sticks" and won't go down without a lot of force. Other than that the switches are super smooth. This the first time I've dealt with switches of any kind outside of a keyboard, so I don't know if this is normal or if it wouldn't happen once they're installed. This isn't a problem with all of the switches, but it does effect most of them (only 4 of the 20 that I tested worked without catching).
I don't know if I described what's happening very well, and if anyone has any tips or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
It should not happen; question, does it happen with all the row profiles - of the key caps - ?
I don't get it, what separates a HHKB from any other 60% keyboard?
Buy one and never look back. Ordered a second the other day and getting rid of all my other boards.
Wow, thank you man. That post is describing the same exact problem as me. My switch housings look a little different and there is no lip like the one shown on that thread, but I filed down the side that the cap was catching on and that fixed my problem. I guess this is another tedious step before spring swapping and lubing. :(I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I've run into some problems with my Gaterons. I haven't installed them yet, but after swapping out the springs and testing the weight I noticed that my caps (GMK) catch on the switch housing. I believe it is the bottom of the stem hitting against the lip of the rectangle that the slide descends into. This only happens on the side opposite the Gateron logo. When I push the cap even slightly in that direction (towards myself if they were installed) the cap "sticks" and won't go down without a lot of force. Other than that the switches are super smooth. This the first time I've dealt with switches of any kind outside of a keyboard, so I don't know if this is normal or if it wouldn't happen once they're installed. This isn't a problem with all of the switches, but it does effect most of them (only 4 of the 20 that I tested worked without catching).
I don't know if I described what's happening very well, and if anyone has any tips or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
It should not happen; question, does it happen with all the row profiles - of the key caps - ?
This has been reported before: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.0
The reported solution was to flatten a bit of plastic on the housing.
I don't get it, what separates a HHKB from any other 60% keyboard?
Buy one and never look back. Ordered a second the other day and getting rid of all my other boards.Wow, thank you man. That post is describing the same exact problem as me. My switch housings look a little different and there is no lip like the one shown on that thread, but I filed down the side that the cap was catching on and that fixed my problem. I guess this is another tedious step before spring swapping and lubing. :(I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I've run into some problems with my Gaterons. I haven't installed them yet, but after swapping out the springs and testing the weight I noticed that my caps (GMK) catch on the switch housing. I believe it is the bottom of the stem hitting against the lip of the rectangle that the slide descends into. This only happens on the side opposite the Gateron logo. When I push the cap even slightly in that direction (towards myself if they were installed) the cap "sticks" and won't go down without a lot of force. Other than that the switches are super smooth. This the first time I've dealt with switches of any kind outside of a keyboard, so I don't know if this is normal or if it wouldn't happen once they're installed. This isn't a problem with all of the switches, but it does effect most of them (only 4 of the 20 that I tested worked without catching).
I don't know if I described what's happening very well, and if anyone has any tips or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
It should not happen; question, does it happen with all the row profiles - of the key caps - ?
This has been reported before: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.0
The reported solution was to flatten a bit of plastic on the housing.
After going through and doing this to a few switches, they no longer catch, but there is a little bump that I don't think I can get rid of without filing down the entire side of the housing that the cap stem rubs against. It sort of ruins the insane smoothness of these switches.I don't get it, what separates a HHKB from any other 60% keyboard?
Buy one and never look back. Ordered a second the other day and getting rid of all my other boards.Wow, thank you man. That post is describing the same exact problem as me. My switch housings look a little different and there is no lip like the one shown on that thread, but I filed down the side that the cap was catching on and that fixed my problem. I guess this is another tedious step before spring swapping and lubing. :(I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I've run into some problems with my Gaterons. I haven't installed them yet, but after swapping out the springs and testing the weight I noticed that my caps (GMK) catch on the switch housing. I believe it is the bottom of the stem hitting against the lip of the rectangle that the slide descends into. This only happens on the side opposite the Gateron logo. When I push the cap even slightly in that direction (towards myself if they were installed) the cap "sticks" and won't go down without a lot of force. Other than that the switches are super smooth. This the first time I've dealt with switches of any kind outside of a keyboard, so I don't know if this is normal or if it wouldn't happen once they're installed. This isn't a problem with all of the switches, but it does effect most of them (only 4 of the 20 that I tested worked without catching).
I don't know if I described what's happening very well, and if anyone has any tips or suggestions I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
It should not happen; question, does it happen with all the row profiles - of the key caps - ?
This has been reported before: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.0
The reported solution was to flatten a bit of plastic on the housing.
Yeah I find it a little worrying that there are already a number of reports of problematic housings and corroded leaves in the Gaterons, with so few people having received them yet. They seem to have tolerance and quality control issues that Cheery doesn't have. I have a batch on the way still from this GB and am looking forward to seeing how they are.
My Gaterons are still on the fly, but I ordered quite a few and plan on doing some more investigating and testing once they get here.
Im not really as concerned about corrosion, because cherry switch leafs are mostly bare copper as well (with only the contact points being plated) and you still don't see coroded cherry seitches that often.
Going by other peoples reviews it also sounded like mainly switch top and slider are responsible for the increased smoothness over genuine mx, so if corrosion really becomes an issue there is still the option to change the bottoms for cherry ones. =)
My Gaterons are still on the fly, but I ordered quite a few and plan on doing some more investigating and testing once they get here.
Im not really as concerned about corrosion, because cherry switch leafs are mostly bare copper as well (with only the contact points being plated) and you still don't see coroded cherry seitches that often.
Going by other peoples reviews it also sounded like mainly switch top and slider are responsible for the increased smoothness over genuine mx, so if corrosion really becomes an issue there is still the option to change the bottoms for cherry ones. =)
I only mentioned corrosion because a couple users reported finding a number of them in new batches. Odd, but there it is.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71364.msg1728547#msg1728547 (10% of new batch was corroded)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71288.10
My Gaterons are still on the fly, but I ordered quite a few and plan on doing some more investigating and testing once they get here.
Im not really as concerned about corrosion, because cherry switch leafs are mostly bare copper as well (with only the contact points being plated) and you still don't see coroded cherry seitches that often.
Going by other peoples reviews it also sounded like mainly switch top and slider are responsible for the increased smoothness over genuine mx, so if corrosion really becomes an issue there is still the option to change the bottoms for cherry ones. =)
I only mentioned corrosion because a couple users reported finding a number of them in new batches. Odd, but there it is.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71364.msg1728547#msg1728547 (10% of new batch was corroded)
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71288.10
I've seen the pictures as well rpeter and got slightly worried at first tbh.
On the other hand the same thread also shows pictures of corroded cherry switches tho and comparing them the differences seem not to be as big.
From what I understand, both Cherry and Gateron seem to have plated cross points only, so the majority of the copper leaf is actually non plated for both and could potentially have corrosion issues.
I guess there could also be a difference in the copper or gold plating used, but from what I understand Gaterons might still be just as durable as Cherry switches. And the fact there is a small amount of corroded switches might just be related to storing/shipping conditions or quality control rather then the actual durability of the switches.
So Im not as concerned for now, as none of those Gaterons has corroded in a regular use case environment inside a board. (especially if frequently used so the cross points get some friction/wear to keep them polished and stop patina from building up as much)
Interesting. Do Gateron's have the same 50 million click life-cycle as Cherry? have they ever been tested in this manner?
Now to go fill a pool with switches and roll around in them like Scrooge McDucknever let anyone tell you you can't achieve your dreams
A quick observation I made...Thanks for posting this, that's a good thing to know.
If you have a board where your switch tops show and you don't like the translucent or clear tops provided by this group buy... a black switch top from a Cherry MX switch actually works just as well. The Cherry tops fit just as snugly as the Gateron ones do and do not cause the switch to wiggle as Cherry switches do. The "optimal girth" Gateron speaks of appears to be with the bottom portion of the housing and not the top.
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Edit: 200th post! :eek:
Does this effect the smoothness?A quick observation I made...Thanks for posting this, that's a good thing to know.
If you have a board where your switch tops show and you don't like the translucent or clear tops provided by this group buy... a black switch top from a Cherry MX switch actually works just as well. The Cherry tops fit just as snugly as the Gateron ones do and do not cause the switch to wiggle as Cherry switches do. The "optimal girth" Gateron speaks of appears to be with the bottom portion of the housing and not the top.
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Edit: 200th post! :eek:
My box just arrived but I haven't counted them yet. Regardless, thanks shadovved and hwood34.pm me your address son.
Now did anyone order extra Browns? I'd like to get my hands on 4 just to try out :).
installed some blues on my sixshooter....the only regret i have is not ordering more. If anyone in NYC area has more than they need, hit me up.
Tracking says that my package arrived in Brazil. Now it goes to Customs, a.k.a. Curitiba's postal black hole (Curitiba is the city here in Brazil who concentrates customs for packages with less than 2 kg).So every intl. package < 2kg goes through one place? That's very interesting!
Now we wait.
Yep. Problem is that there is too few employees for this job (Brazilian's postal service is government run).Tracking says that my package arrived in Brazil. Now it goes to Customs, a.k.a. Curitiba's postal black hole (Curitiba is the city here in Brazil who concentrates customs for packages with less than 2 kg).So every intl. package < 2kg goes through one place? That's very interesting!
Now we wait.
My wife retrieved my package from the USPS office today! Can't wait to make it back home to lay my eyes upon them :eek:
My wife retrieved my package from the USPS office today! Can't wait to make it back home to lay my eyes upon them :eek:
The switches, or your wife?
Just got mine too! Thanks Shadovved and hwood34! Replaced the springs with SPIRiT's 65g, and now waiting for the PCB! Very excited!
Sprit's springs are measured by bottom out force, while Cherry(and Gateron?) are measured by actuation force, so a very big difference.Just got mine too! Thanks Shadovved and hwood34! Replaced the springs with SPIRiT's 65g, and now waiting for the PCB! Very excited!
Are there any perceivable differences between Sprit's 65g springs and the stock ones?
Sprit's springs are measured by bottom out force, while Cherry(and Gateron?) are measured by actuation force, so a very big difference.Just got mine too! Thanks Shadovved and hwood34! Replaced the springs with SPIRiT's 65g, and now waiting for the PCB! Very excited!
Are there any perceivable differences between Sprit's 65g springs and the stock ones?
Have you guys tried typing on the switches with keycaps on them?
It seems like the off-center presses are a bit scratchy to me... Problem seems to go away after I replaced the switch top with a cherry switch top. They feel like vintage blacks to me. :))
I have only tried it on the cherry abs, cherry pom, and the tall doubleshot pbt keycaps.
Have you guys tried typing on the switches with keycaps on them?
It seems like the off-center presses are a bit scratchy to me... Problem seems to go away after I replaced the switch top with a cherry switch top. They feel like vintage blacks to me. :))
I have only tried it on the cherry abs, cherry pom, and the tall doubleshot pbt keycaps.
I was going to ask the same thing, but didn't want to be the first...but yes, I have this issue also...my keycap stem hits the side of the housing when pressed from the bottom of the keycap vs center. At first I thought it was because the stem was too thick, but....well, you get what you pay for I guess....
The first pic is of the KS-1 series (the first version of Gaterons; had a circular indent at the stem base)Have you guys tried typing on the switches with keycaps on them?
It seems like the off-center presses are a bit scratchy to me... Problem seems to go away after I replaced the switch top with a cherry switch top. They feel like vintage blacks to me. :))
I have only tried it on the cherry abs, cherry pom, and the tall doubleshot pbt keycaps.
I was going to ask the same thing, but didn't want to be the first...but yes, I have this issue also...my keycap stem hits the side of the housing when pressed from the bottom of the keycap vs center. At first I thought it was because the stem was too thick, but....well, you get what you pay for I guess....
I have to disagree on that. ;D They are way better than the new cherry blacks.
I did some quick search on baidu and it seems like some chinese keyboard enthusiasts is involved in creating these switches. Maybe with enough feedback they can actually make better switches?
http://weistang.com/thread-816-1-1.html
The switches that I received from the GB is different from the ones showed in the link. Maybe someone who knows more about these switches can enlighten us.
The first pic is of the KS-1 series (the first version of Gaterons; had a circular indent at the stem base)
Yep. Some are floating around, but they've moved on to the current designThe first pic is of the KS-1 series (the first version of Gaterons; had a circular indent at the stem base)
Did they stop making the first version?
so here is what i did with mine my first custom built keyboard sadly the caps i ordered ive been waiting on for 3 month but ive seen people wait longer, currently typing on the switches atm lol. for some reason the shift key isn't capitalizing even though in the keymapper it registers the shift key keypresses so if anyone has any insight on that please let me know (edit I figured it out I was on the Fn layer when I mapped shift!), also as im sure you can tell by the picture the leds are pretty dim compared to the lock key leds and i can seem to figure that out as well as why a few key's lights dont work at all as they're soldered in well and correctly also they worked when tested in other locations and the caps lock led worked before i mapped it to be control instead ... either way here's the picture in all of its potato gloryShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0fdzFdI.jpg)
Have you guys tried typing on the switches with keycaps on them?
It seems like the off-center presses are a bit scratchy to me... Problem seems to go away after I replaced the switch top with a cherry switch top. They feel like vintage blacks to me. :))
I have only tried it on the cherry abs, cherry pom, and the tall doubleshot pbt keycaps.
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
I have my Dolch DSA caps on my Gaterons. It has the same problem. If you press the key off-center, the cap will catch on the housing. This only happens on the LED side. (south for most keyboards, but sometimes north)
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
I have my Dolch DSA caps on my Gaterons. It has the same problem. If you press the key off-center, the cap will catch on the housing. This only happens on the LED side. (south for most keyboards, but sometimes north)
Is this a problem with all switches or just some of them? I wonder if it's better when you use a stock cherry or gateron clear top?
I was going to solder a bunch of these onto my new board...but now I'm a little worried.
Oh Boy...
I just got a letter from the customs office about a package listed as 'keyboard parts' from Singapore (so Im guessing Gaterons).
They claim it wasn't labeled correctly with a bill on the outside of the package and therefore took it hostage.
So in result I will have to pick it up there, and unbox it in front of their eyes within a deadline and then most likely
pay import taxes according to what they classify it as... xD
It's not too bad tho I guess and it had to happen one day. Just have to find time to go there within their business hours and the deadline.
"Bill" as in bill of sale? Strange. The switches are pretty obviously keyboard parts, so that shouldn't be a problem. Maybe bring a keycap to stick on just in case. Tell them that the switches are sold in bulk for two cents each. :)
Oh Boy...
I just got a letter from the customs office about a package listed as 'keyboard parts' from Singapore (so Im guessing Gaterons).
They claim it wasn't labeled correctly with a bill on the outside of the package and therefore took it hostage.
So in result I will have to pick it up there, and unbox it in front of their eyes within a deadline and then most likely
pay import taxes according to what they classify it as... xD
It's not too bad tho I guess and it had to happen one day. Just have to find time to go there within their business hours and the deadline.
Someone's being paid off by Cherry...
"Bill" as in bill of sale? Strange. The switches are pretty obviously keyboard parts, so that shouldn't be a problem. Maybe bring a keycap to stick on just in case. Tell them that the switches are sold in bulk for two cents each. :)
I guess 'bill' as in specifying the value on the outside of the box, but idk honestly.
It most likely wont be that bad, but bringing a keycap might actually be an idea. =)
They probably want me to open it to check for the value specified somewhere (bill/invoice) to figure if they need to charge taxes and how much, that's all. :)
If they can't find the value specified somewhere they will most likely just google 'gateron switch' so Im already kinda looking forward to see the guy from the customs office browsing on GeekHack... xD
"Bill" as in bill of sale? Strange. The switches are pretty obviously keyboard parts, so that shouldn't be a problem. Maybe bring a keycap to stick on just in case. Tell them that the switches are sold in bulk for two cents each. :)
I guess 'bill' as in specifying the value on the outside of the box, but idk honestly.
It most likely wont be that bad, but bringing a keycap might actually be an idea. =)
They probably want me to open it to check for the value specified somewhere (bill/invoice) to figure if they need to charge taxes and how much, that's all. :)
If they can't find the value specified somewhere they will most likely just google 'gateron switch' so Im already kinda looking forward to see the guy from the customs office browsing on GeekHack... xD
Last time I had to go to the customs office was for the crap bag and I just had to shake the package to convince officer :p
Anyone knows what value he declared on the customs bill?
It's not the keycaps, it's the switches. If you examine the tops, and compare the two sides against a Cherry MX, the issue becomes clear.
With imsto pbt is fine(gateron clear) but have same issue with gmk keycaps.(gateron brown)
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
I have my Dolch DSA caps on my Gaterons. It has the same problem. If you press the key off-center, the cap will catch on the housing. This only happens on the LED side. (south for most keyboards, but sometimes north)
Is this a problem with all switches or just some of them? I wonder if it's better when you use a stock cherry or gateron clear top?
I was going to solder a bunch of these onto my new board...but now I'm a little worried.
Some have reported issues when Gateron switches are used with Cherry (GMK) caps. Has someone tested them with SP's DSA caps?
I have my Dolch DSA caps on my Gaterons. It has the same problem. If you press the key off-center, the cap will catch on the housing. This only happens on the LED side. (south for most keyboards, but sometimes north)
Is this a problem with all switches or just some of them? I wonder if it's better when you use a stock cherry or gateron clear top?
I was going to solder a bunch of these onto my new board...but now I'm a little worried.
Now I'm worried! I already soldered half of the keyboard that is waiting on the granite dsa keycaps to come in! Oh noooooo. I hope someone with DSA keycaps can test this a little more.
With imsto pbt is fine(gateron clear) but have same issue with gmk keycaps.(gateron brown)
Could someone put together a quick video on the switch sticking? I've not had this experience yet with cherry or dsa profile caps.
Could someone put together a quick video on the switch sticking? I've not had this experience yet with cherry or dsa profile caps.If no one has posted it yet, I'll do one when I get home from work in about 2 hours.
Here you go...
Could someone put together a quick video on the switch sticking? I've not had this experience yet with cherry or dsa profile caps.If no one has posted it yet, I'll do one when I get home from work in about 2 hours.
Here you go...
It's not that bad, guys. For it to happen, you have to press the keys in a way you won't normally do.
It's not that bad, guys. For it to happen, you have to press the keys in a way you won't normally do.
It's not that bad, guys. For it to happen, you have to press the keys in a way you won't normally do.It happens for me just with normal typing. About half of mine are pretty much unusable, a quarter are just unpleasant, and the rest are OK.
Oh Boy...
I just got a letter from the customs office about a package listed as 'keyboard parts' from Singapore (so Im guessing Gaterons).
They claim it wasn't labeled correctly with a bill on the outside of the package and therefore took it hostage.
So in result I will have to pick it up there, and unbox it in front of their eyes within a deadline and then most likely
pay import taxes according to what they classify it as... xD
It's not too bad tho I guess and it had to happen one day. Just have to find time to go there within their business hours and the deadline.
Oh Boy...
I just got a letter from the customs office about a package listed as 'keyboard parts' from Singapore (so Im guessing Gaterons).
They claim it wasn't labeled correctly with a bill on the outside of the package and therefore took it hostage.
So in result I will have to pick it up there, and unbox it in front of their eyes within a deadline and then most likely
pay import taxes according to what they classify it as... xD
It's not too bad tho I guess and it had to happen one day. Just have to find time to go there within their business hours and the deadline.
Tell him the CN22 custom's declaration is on the sticker together with the address.
The declared amount and qty are on it. You should be able to use it to pass.........
Switches arrived yesterday! It looks like there was a mistake in my favor, received an extra 100 blacks and 100 clears. PM me if that's an issue, otherwise I will put them to good use!
Switches arrived yesterday! It looks like there was a mistake in my favor, received an extra 100 blacks and 100 clears. PM me if that's an issue, otherwise I will put them to good use!PM'd
Got mine today, thanks for the GB.
A quick observation: seems like the bottom of the switch is from an old batch and only the top is new.
About the issue, does the bottom or the top cause this?
Got mine today, thanks for the GB.
A quick observation: seems like the bottom of the switch is from an old batch and only the top is new.
About the issue, does the bottom or the top cause this?
It seems to be the top that's causing it because I've tried switching tops with original Cherry switches and also sanded the Gateron top and both fixed the issue.
Got mine today, thanks for the GB.
A quick observation: seems like the bottom of the switch is from an old batch and only the top is new.
About the issue, does the bottom or the top cause this?
It seems to be the top that's causing it because I've tried switching tops with original Cherry switches and also sanded the Gateron top and both fixed the issue.
Where did you sand on the gateron switch? I'm using desko RGB's and they 're slightly catching. My IMSTO keycaps work fine though.
I'm confused where this thing about Gateron's not fitting PCBs came from. Tested it on a TechKeys business card and a Leeku 3000 PCB that I have. Both are fitting fine. I have to put a little more force on them versus MX but it's not that bad.I think that was pretty much the extent of the problem most people were having, it they just fit a little more snuggly
I'm confused where this thing about Gateron's not fitting PCBs came from. Tested it on a TechKeys business card and a Leeku 3000 PCB that I have. Both are fitting fine. I have to put a little more force on them versus MX but it's not that bad.I think that was pretty much the extent of the problem most people were having, it they just fit a little more snuggly
When I understood this thread right, there are two issues with Gateron switches
1) the leg is abit to thick for most PCB holes
2) the housing top (at the point where LEDs are mounted) touches and rubs against the keycap
correct?
Has anyone experienced the issues with the clear tops? I was planning to later purchase some for my Orion but I'm now wary about Gateron tops after the issues with regular Gateron tops.The Clear tops appear to be the same mould, so the issue applies there as well.
Has anyone experienced the issues with the clear tops? I was planning to later purchase some for my Orion but I'm now wary about Gateron tops after the issues with regular Gateron tops.The Clear tops appear to be the same mould, so the issue applies there as well.
I don't think this issue is that prevalent as it might sound. People have been trying Gateron switches and tops before this group buy with a diverse set of keycaps and I haven't seen any reports before.Has anyone experienced the issues with the clear tops? I was planning to later purchase some for my Orion but I'm now wary about Gateron tops after the issues with regular Gateron tops.The Clear tops appear to be the same mould, so the issue applies there as well.
That's unfortunate. Might have to skip those or get some from another make in that case.
I don't think this issue is that prevalent as it might sound. People have been trying Gateron switches and tops before this group buy with a diverse set of keycaps and I haven't seen any reports before.Has anyone experienced the issues with the clear tops? I was planning to later purchase some for my Orion but I'm now wary about Gateron tops after the issues with regular Gateron tops.The Clear tops appear to be the same mould, so the issue applies there as well.
That's unfortunate. Might have to skip those or get some from another make in that case.
the Clear tops are less wobbly than the originals, or did i misremember something?
the Clear tops are less wobbly than the originals, or did i misremember something?
I didn't notice any difference with my clear tops. They're just a rigid as the stock ones.
I'm thinking that between the rigidity and the lack of spacing on the LED side (as metal pointed out) is what is causing the issue.
I wonder if it's more prevalent with a specific slider?
My switches seem to be stuck in customs, it has been over 3 weeks since shipping and I haven't heard anything yet :( I hope they hurry.I collected my switches from the post office yesterday, shouldn't be that long until you get them. ;)
The interference is between the top of the switch and the stem of the caps.
Isn't the problem only on the clear top, all videos and pictures I've seen about it were with clear top, not the milky one.The interference is between the top of the switch and the stem of the caps.If I read right, and still hope it's Not true...
The sticking problem seems from the person(s) at Gateron who assigned to copy Cherry MX switches. He seems do not understood the role of both notches on top.
Or he does not have Cherry 1800 or 3000 boards to verify his work.
Thick caps as Cherry original, GMK double shots and some others seem have some interferences with a bit narrow Gateron stem holes?? :(
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be)
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The clear and the milky tops are identical AFAICT.Isn't the problem only on the clear top, all videos and pictures I've seen about it were with clear top, not the milky one.The interference is between the top of the switch and the stem of the caps.If I read right, and still hope it's Not true...
The sticking problem seems from the person(s) at Gateron who assigned to copy Cherry MX switches. He seems do not understood the role of both notches on top.
Or he does not have Cherry 1800 or 3000 boards to verify his work.
Thick caps as Cherry original, GMK double shots and some others seem have some interferences with a bit narrow Gateron stem holes?? :(
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be)
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I have a gateron boards with cherry dyesubs on it. And I have no problem at all.
When I understood this thread right, there are two issues with Gateron switches
1) the leg is abit to thick for most PCB holes
2) the housing top (at the point where LEDs are mounted) touches and rubs against the keycap
correct?
That is right:
Gateron's legs are thicker and stem clearance is smaller than Cherry's causing interference with PCB holes, the first, and with cap stems the last. A small jewelry file tool may be handy to fix both, another additional step before soldering them.
Isn't the problem only on the clear top, all videos and pictures I've seen about it were with clear top, not the milky one.
I have a gateron boards with cherry dyesubs on it. And I have no problem at all.
Isn't the problem only on the clear top, all videos and pictures I've seen about it were with clear top, not the milky one.The interference is between the top of the switch and the stem of the caps.If I read right, and still hope it's Not true...
The sticking problem seems from the person(s) at Gateron who assigned to copy Cherry MX switches. He seems do not understood the role of both notches on top.
Or he does not have Cherry 1800 or 3000 boards to verify his work.
Thick caps as Cherry original, GMK double shots and some others seem have some interferences with a bit narrow Gateron stem holes?? :(
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1695644#msg1695644)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2a5ZZyQ-t0&feature=youtu.be)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq6MPmEn-Rs&feature=youtu.be)
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I have a gateron boards with cherry dyesubs on it. And I have no problem at all.
I wonder how easy it would be to talk to them and work out some of the kinks... ::)Email or Message to them ?
Again...I think you're mistaken. Do you have Gaterons in hand and tried them out? They fit perfectly fine in the PCBs I've tried and caps fit on them just fine. I haven't had any jamming problems.
I think if there's any story here it's how poorly defined the tolerances are for the various parts we work with. I've not yet encountered any issues with keycap interference. The switches dropped right into my RSIII PCB, but are a very, very tight fit on my winkeyless.kr board. I've never seen a datasheet for the gaterons so I can't say for sure if they are made with exactly the same drill guide as their cherry counterparts.
Keyboard switches are standard components; thus, they should meet the same design and manufacturing tolerances.
I think if there's any story here it's how poorly defined the tolerances are for the various parts we work with. I've not yet encountered any issues with keycap interference. The switches dropped right into my RSIII PCB, but are a very, very tight fit on my winkeyless.kr board. I've never seen a datasheet for the gaterons so I can't say for sure if they are made with exactly the same drill guide as their cherry counterparts.
Here's a discussion with a datasheet from both Gateron and Cherry: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71368.msg1728555#msg1728555
Cherry is the top image, Gateron is below.
Keyboard switches are standard components; thus, they should meet the same design and manufacturing tolerances. In the other hand, there is now group thinking that motivates people to "look for the issues as reported by others", instead of objectively try the parts.
Keyboard switches are standard components; thus, they should meet the same design and manufacturing tolerances.
Definitely not true. They do *not* have the same tolerances (see the post just above yours). But even with the differences in tolerances, I didn't have any issues with the Gaterons.
But i do love that the tops on the gateron actually allows 3mm led's with flanges to fit flush with the top as opposed to the cherry ones that require sanding. nice touchI haven't even realised this, but yes my 3mm LEDs with flange fit as well. That's pretty awesome! :cool:
Just also chiming in had my gaterons for a couple of weeks now and I would like to say the one I have are very tight when pushing into the pcb test on a leopold 210 keypad and a pure pcb both needed quite a bit of froce to seat them correctly but I will say for the pure or any pcb mount it makes them a lot sturdier and seem to be better aligned and not wobbly like I had with cherry switches anyway that's my musing on themAgain...I think you're mistaken. Do you have Gaterons in hand and tried them out? They fit perfectly fine in the PCBs I've tried and caps fit on them just fine. I haven't had any jamming problems.
I had to shave the legs a hair to get them to fit comfortably in my Butterfly Lightpad PCB. Otherwise they were very difficult to push in and I'm not sure they sat all the way in.
Edit: After digging a bit more it looks like the PCB pins on the Gaterons have a ~1.5mm core with three ~0.15mm "wings", the hole specs are 1.7-0.05mm (Cherry) 1.7+/-0.05mm (Gateron) which would suggest the Gaterons "wings" are in fact designed to be press fit onto the PCB being the pins have a maximum cross-section of 1.65mm and a interference circumference of 1.8mm requiring a 0.025-0.075mm compression on the wings. I don't have any PCB mount Cherrys to compare.
Spirit, have you measured what you actually get after masking is applied? To the eye, it looks like the holes were drilled at 1.7mm but were occluded by soldermasking. I'm just curious.Oh! Thanks So Much!! Spopepro! :thumb:
I went back and measured more holes to be sure, and found many larger, but all at or under 1.6mm on my winkeyless board. To be sure: it's not really a problem, just requires a touch more focus.
Spirit, have you measured what you actually get after masking is applied? To the eye, it looks like the holes were drilled at 1.7mm but were occluded by soldermasking. I'm just curious.
I went back and measured more holes to be sure, and found many larger, but all at or under 1.6mm on my winkeyless board. To be sure: it's not really a problem, just requires a touch more focus.
Edit: After digging a bit more it looks like the PCB pins on the Gaterons have a ~1.5mm core with three ~0.15mm "wings", the hole specs are 1.7-0.05mm (Cherry) 1.7+/-0.05mm (Gateron) which would suggest the Gaterons "wings" are in fact designed to be press fit onto the PCB being the pins have a maximum cross-section of 1.65mm and a interference circumference of 1.8mm requiring a 0.025-0.075mm compression on the wings. I don't have any PCB mount Cherrys to compare.
Measuring a few cherry switches I got readings between 1.6 and 1.7mm as I moved around the pin (due to the aforementioned "wings" to create the interference fit). I get exactly the same results with a handful of Gaterons using the same method. So the diameter wouldn't have an effect. But I don't have fine enough equipment to measure the width and length of the "wings" which could create more or less interference.
Interestingly, the drill holes for the pins on the RSIII measure right around 1.7mm... right on spec. The winkeyless.kr holes measure all around 1.52mm... which is out of spec regardless of switch.
So what I think (think...) is going on is that the designers are placing a 1.7mm drill hole, and then the fancy soldermask that is used is closing up the hole a little bit.
Based on what I can measure, it's not the switches, it's the PCBs that are out of spec.
Alright, since the plural of anecdote is data, and data only becomes relevant at an n of 30, I took measurement of 60 legs, 15 Black right legs, 15 Black left legs, 15 Clear right legs, 15 Clear left legs.Thanks a lot for the measurements! Can you compare them to Cherry PCB switches?
Here's the numbers:
- Right Leg:
- Average: 1.61633...mm
- Min & Max: 1.56mm, 1.68mm
- Left Leg:
- Average: 1.638mm
- Min & Max: 1.57mm, 1.70mm
- Total Average: 1.6271mm
There's a fair degree of variation in the leg sizes and I get the feeling that some of the legs may actually be wider at points due to the three offshoots I identified earlier, but it's difficult to properly and accurately measure. When I was twisting the calipers around, they were getting diameters larger than 1.75mm at times, but I couldn't tell if it was due to torsion or something else. That and I was afraid it might bite into the stem and give inaccurate readings, so I stuck with spot measures.
Just got my switches from the post office.
Its mostly un-plated copper, with the tiniest hint of gold on the bit that matters.
I would say that for as long as the gold doesn't wear off, it should be fine.
Here are some iPhone photos :) (clickable thumbnails to enjoy 100% crops of high ISO photos)
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so here is what i did with mine my first custom built keyboard sadly the caps i ordered ive been waiting on for 3 month but ive seen people wait longer, currently typing on the switches atm lol. for some reason the shift key isn't capitalizing even though in the keymapper it registers the shift key keypresses so if anyone has any insight on that please let me know (edit I figured it out I was on the Fn layer when I mapped shift!), also as im sure you can tell by the picture the leds are pretty dim compared to the lock key leds and i can seem to figure that out as well as why a few key's lights dont work at all as they're soldered in well and correctly also they worked when tested in other locations and the caps lock led worked before i mapped it to be control instead ... either way here's the picture in all of its potato gloryShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/0fdzFdI.jpg)
Solder on the LEDs the other way around for the bottom mods. If you look closely on the PCB, the polarity is facing a he other way (this is due to wkl support). Not too sure about your esc key, perhaps check polarity on that as well?
Just installed my blacks with 62g gold springs from sprit. No catching. Smooth as hell. Almost oddly smooth. It feels weird... verging on mushy. I think I might need to try a different spring weight.
Some Squeaks may fixed with re-positioning of springs,
As you know, springs have directions at both ends. It affects it's movement, afaic
Gateron may feel frictionless compare to current Reds or Blacks, thou Not as much as the good Vintage Blacks.
If you are a MX Red user, my 55g (actuation 45g) is a counterpart ;)
Some Squeaks may fixed with re-positioning of springs,
As you know, springs have directions at both ends. It affects it's movement, afaic
Gateron may feel frictionless compare to current Reds or Blacks, thou Not as much as the good Vintage Blacks.
If you are a MX Red user, my 55g (actuation 45g) is a counterpart ;)
So 55g springs are better? I'm thinking about swapping my Gateron Black springs to something a slight bit lighter....but I want a little heavier than MX Reds....
A bit heavier than MX reds will be my 60g (actuation 50g)Some Squeaks may fixed with re-positioning of springs,
As you know, springs have directions at both ends. It affects it's movement, afaic
Gateron may feel frictionless compare to current Reds or Blacks, thou Not as much as the good Vintage Blacks.
If you are a MX Red user, my 55g (actuation 45g) is a counterpart ;)
So 55g springs are better? I'm thinking about swapping my Gateron Black springs to something a slight bit lighter....but I want a little heavier than MX Reds....
A bit heavier than MX reds will be my 60g (actuation 50g)Some Squeaks may fixed with re-positioning of springs,
As you know, springs have directions at both ends. It affects it's movement, afaic
Gateron may feel frictionless compare to current Reds or Blacks, thou Not as much as the good Vintage Blacks.
If you are a MX Red user, my 55g (actuation 45g) is a counterpart ;)
So 55g springs are better? I'm thinking about swapping my Gateron Black springs to something a slight bit lighter....but I want a little heavier than MX Reds....
My 55g (actuation 45g) is similar to MX Reds, with more stability and quick responces.
Stock Gateron springs are nice, but a bit narrow choices in my opinion :)
I opened up a vintage Cherry MX Brown and a Gateron brown and tested interchanging parts.
The unmodified Gateron Brown is more tactile than the vintage MX brown but the vintage MX switch is smoother.
However, when I had swapped just the sliders then both switches felt about equal in both tactility and smoothness.
I also tested swapping the brass parts: the leaf spring and "stationary contact" that have the "gold cross point".
I found that Cherry's brass parts do fit inside the Gateron housing, but not the opposite: Gateron's "stationary contact" part is apparently too thick to fit into the slot at the bottom of the Cherry MX housing.
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So what's the group consensus on the gateron browns compared to cherry browns/clears?
So what's the group consensus on the gateron browns compared to cherry browns/clears?
I doubt this is specific to browns but I have gateron browns in my most recent build and OG Dolch caps catch on the switch tops. Trying to look through this thread for a solution.
So what's the group consensus on the gateron browns compared to cherry browns/clears?
I doubt this is specific to browns but I have gateron browns in my most recent build and OG Dolch caps catch on the switch tops. Trying to look through this thread for a solution.
Check this thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70376.msg1696546#msg1696546
Beyond the catch, what do you think of the switch?
When I use caps that don't catch they feel great! I prefer them to my cherry browns, they are also lubed with Krytox GPL103.
When I use caps that don't catch they feel great! I prefer them to my cherry browns, they are also lubed with Krytox GPL103.
Because of smoothness, impact of tactility, or other?
Are you using the stock springs?
When I use caps that don't catch they feel great! I prefer them to my cherry browns, they are also lubed with Krytox GPL103.
Because of smoothness, impact of tactility, or other?
Are you using the stock springs?
Stock springs, I like them because of the smoothness. Tactility feels similar to me, other than it being smoother on the Gaterons. That said they are pretty close and blind folded at normal typing speed I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference.
*edit*
I took apart some of my extra Gaterons and none of them have the lip in the thread that was linked. Hmm
Another edit... I tried filing the bottom edge of a keycap on the ones that catch and it fixes the issue. That might be my solution, just a pain to file down 82 keycaps. Doing a side by side I can see the switch tops from Cherry have a TINY gap on the switch top, between the stem. Seems that allows caps to not catch. Filing that edge of thick stems makes it go away.
When I use caps that don't catch they feel great! I prefer them to my cherry browns, they are also lubed with Krytox GPL103.
Because of smoothness, impact of tactility, or other?
Are you using the stock springs?
Stock springs, I like them because of the smoothness. Tactility feels similar to me, other than it being smoother on the Gaterons. That said they are pretty close and blind folded at normal typing speed I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference.
*edit*
I took apart some of my extra Gaterons and none of them have the lip in the thread that was linked. Hmm
Another edit... I tried filing the bottom edge of a keycap on the ones that catch and it fixes the issue. That might be my solution, just a pain to file down 82 keycaps. Doing a side by side I can see the switch tops from Cherry have a TINY gap on the switch top, between the stem. Seems that allows caps to not catch. Filing that edge of thick stems makes it go away.
What do you fill it with?
When I use caps that don't catch they feel great! I prefer them to my cherry browns, they are also lubed with Krytox GPL103.
Because of smoothness, impact of tactility, or other?
Are you using the stock springs?
Stock springs, I like them because of the smoothness. Tactility feels similar to me, other than it being smoother on the Gaterons. That said they are pretty close and blind folded at normal typing speed I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference.
*edit*
I took apart some of my extra Gaterons and none of them have the lip in the thread that was linked. Hmm
Another edit... I tried filing the bottom edge of a keycap on the ones that catch and it fixes the issue. That might be my solution, just a pain to file down 82 keycaps. Doing a side by side I can see the switch tops from Cherry have a TINY gap on the switch top, between the stem. Seems that allows caps to not catch. Filing that edge of thick stems makes it go away.
What do you fill it with?
filed not filled. ;)
Thanks to everyone for making this such a hugely successful GB! Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly and have most everyone satisfied with the product. Certainly is strange that Gateron appeared to slightly adjust the mold or something of the like in the middle of the order, but hopefully after seeing how many people are interested they'll make themselves more accessible to international and non-commercial buyers. Maybe even a round 2 is in order...
Thanks to everyone for making this such a hugely successful GB! Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly and have most everyone satisfied with the product. Certainly is strange that Gateron appeared to slightly adjust the mold or something of the like in the middle of the order, but hopefully after seeing how many people are interested they'll make themselves more accessible to international and non-commercial buyers. Maybe even a round 2 is in order...
Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Dude... Chill out.well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Well I've been invoiced by and sent money to a she paypal account, don't you remember? I assumed it was you.
Now… Can't you just be normal and stop acting like a Monkey Island Stan? (Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%? Huh? Planned? You mean YOU PLANNED ALL THIS?)
Really not funny to read you and I'm not even sure what is the more sad,
- the fact you took the time to calculate the .23% I am representing in this sale and by this manner reducing me to a negligible quantity in your holy book of numbers and to the good people of this board;
- the fact that you are clearly spitting out this in public (not that I care much, but you should take more care or conscience on how you are showing to the board, especially if you are needing the rest of the board trust and respect which you clearly are for GB and such);
or
- the fact you are so full of self contentment and esteem that you doesn't stand behind your failures and need to hide behind fairy dust.
Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.
wat(Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%?well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about�
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.
fair enoughwell he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about…
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Well I've been invoiced by and sent money to a she paypal account, don't you remember? I assumed it was you.
Now… Can't you just be normal and stop acting like a Monkey Island Stan? (Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%? Huh? Planned? You mean YOU PLANNED ALL THIS?)wut
Really not funny to read you and I'm not even sure what is the more sad,
- the fact you took the time to calculate the .23% I am representing in this sale and by this manner reducing me to a negligible quantity in your holy book of numbers and to the good people of this board;
- the fact that you are clearly spitting out this in public (not that I care much, but you should take more care or conscience on how you are showing to the board, especially if you are needing the rest of the board trust and respect which you clearly are for GB and such);I continued where you started :thumb:
- the fact you are so full of self contentment and esteem that you doesn't stand behind your failures and need to hide behind fairy dust.Yeah, I'm pretty content with me and Shadovved (especially Shadovved) being able to organize a buy in which nearly every single person was happy. Don't really understand the second part, I admitted that your order was incorrectly handled and stood behind numbers (which I guess is fairy dust now?)
Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.+ 0.23% it does
wat(Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%?well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about�
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.
100% - 0,23% = 99,77%, I really can't see the problem here.
And this is pretty much getting absurd.
I calculated for the only order I could think of but conceded that there might possibly be morewat(Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%?well he (not even sure where you got that assumption) probably feels as though everything has gone over smoothly considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly
Sorry to sound like that but that must be a kind of a joke isn't it?
First you made numerous errors on invoice quantities. Ok can happen. You can still call it smooth.
Then I had issued a secondary payment (I did as gift to ease things for you) because of shipment fee error on your side. A little hicup, call it smooth still.
Then again a mistake on your side on the city address and I had to wait for the switches to go back to Shadovved, ok maybe Shadovved could have proposed to send anyway a second batch if possible as the error was clearly on your side. But ok I am a patient boy, I wait.
Now the switches are said as delivered back to Singapore and I have no news except this "Feels really awesome to have everything go so smoothly", now I'm starting to wonder what kind of smoothness you are talking about�
When a GB with over a hundred thousand switches is finished within a few months that is pretty impressive if not record breaking. I received my order one month and eight days after invoices were due, which is quite incredible as I think all of our orders were hand sorted(?). To put this in perspective the GH60 GB is still running even though invoices were paid over two years ago.
Sure, still everything has not gone so smoothly and is not closed, hwood is maybe feeling awesomeness and I'm happy for her but the rest is a pretty inconsistent report.
And like RavenII said, the "closed" status is to inform people that the buy is no longer taking orders or selling extras.
Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.
100% - 0,23% = 99,77%, I really can't see the problem here.
And this is pretty much getting absurd.
He said an handfull… so an handfull can't be only one person is it? Or is he saying nothing and anything?
ok so just in case you aren't actually trolling:Now… Can't you just be normal and stop acting like a Monkey Island Stan? (Hey Stan, if a small handful had troubles and I'm .23% of 441 how do you get the 99,77%? Huh? Planned? You mean YOU PLANNED ALL THIS?)wut
considering that in 441 orders, a small handful (frankly I can only remember yours but there may be one or two more) have had a substantial problem like yours. In my book a 99.77% planned fulfillment constitutes a success.
Really not funny to read you and I'm not even sure what is the more sad,
- the fact you took the time to calculate the .23% I am representing in this sale and by this manner reducing me to a negligible quantity in your holy book of numbers and to the good people of this board;
I said that because it outlined the fact that such a small percentage of orders improperly handled constitutes a successful GB, not to reduce the magnitude of your problem.
If it makes you comfy with your mistakes, be my guest.- the fact that you are clearly spitting out this in public (not that I care much, but you should take more care or conscience on how you are showing to the board, especially if you are needing the rest of the board trust and respect which you clearly are for GB and such);I continued where you started :thumb:
I can't help you much on this one, I guess pretty everyone will nod on this one. You are not saying anymore things like 'everything' or 'everyone' now… Thank you for that ;D- the fact you are so full of self contentment and esteem that you doesn't stand behind your failures and need to hide behind fairy dust.Yeah, I'm pretty content with me and Shadovved (especially Shadovved) being able to organize a buy in which nearly every single person was happy. Don't really understand the second part, I admitted that your order was incorrectly handled and stood behind numbers (which I guess is fairy dust now?)
You mean me? Well it doesn't then or do you have as well definitions of smoothness and everything that involve quantic maths?Your maths are wrong 99,77% doesn't make 100% btw.+ 0.23% it does
Can we calm down here, problems happen in all group buy, you were unlucky mecano.
Do you need you switches quickly for a build?
If yes and it's gateron blacks, I wouldn't mind sending you some of mine since you're in France too.
Holy ****...is that how I sounded...?eh, your complaints were mostly valid and were backed up with some semblance of logic
Drama aside, my Gaterons are working great on my GON keyboard, no issues with stocked caps, I am using my Granite key set with no issues at all, and when I installed the switches on the PCB I had no problems at all, either.
These switches are great. I just regret I did not get more.
Drama aside, my Gaterons are working great on my GON keyboard, no issues with stocked caps, I am using my Granite key set with no issues at all, and when I installed the switches on the PCB I had no problems at all, either.
These switches are great. I just regret I did not get more.
Same regret here, I bit the bullet and paid a little more from some Massdrop ones in the end :)
Holy ****...is that how I sounded...?
I am typing with Gaterons with Cherry ABS DS caps and there is no any issue with stuck key caps. Either, people who reported the issue got some actually faulty switches, or it was a group thinking issue.
I am typing with Gaterons with Cherry ABS DS caps and there is no any issue with stuck key caps. Either, people who reported the issue got some actually faulty switches, or it was a group thinking issue.
I don't know what a group thinking issue is, but I can guarantee that it's not the switches being faulty. Maybe different tolerances, but that's different from being faulty. I think if nothing else...in my case anyhow, it's the keycaps that are made like ****.
I am typing with Gaterons with Cherry ABS DS caps and there is no any issue with stuck key caps. Either, people who reported the issue got some actually faulty switches, or it was a group thinking issue.
I don't know what a group thinking issue is, but I can guarantee that it's not the switches being faulty. Maybe different tolerances, but that's different from being faulty. I think if nothing else...in my case anyhow, it's the keycaps that are made like ****.
By group-thinking I meant that some individuals were biased by the issues reported by others, instead of testing their switches candidly.
Just for the record, I tested the Gaterons with a set of vintage Cherry caps and they work flawlessly. Again, I think there is no issues at all with them.
Just for the record, I tested the Gaterons with a set of vintage Cherry caps and they work flawlessly. Again, I think there is no issues at all with them.
Perhaps like some said, it could be a matter of batch.
Just for the record, I tested the Gaterons with a set of vintage Cherry caps and they work flawlessly. Again, I think there is no issues at all with them.
Perhaps like some said, it could be a matter of batch.
That's what I'm thinking. Like I said not all of mine (about half) have the catching issue, and it doesn't make them useless.
I will just make sure that I use Imsto caps with them if the catching is that big of a problem while typing.
Just for the record, I tested the Gaterons with a set of vintage Cherry caps and they work flawlessly. Again, I think there is no issues at all with them.
Perhaps like some said, it could be a matter of batch.
That's what I'm thinking. Like I said not all of mine (about half) have the catching issue, and it doesn't make them useless.
I will just make sure that I use Imsto caps with them if the catching is that big of a problem while typing.
Just for the record, I tested the Gaterons with a set of vintage Cherry caps and they work flawlessly. Again, I think there is no issues at all with them.
Perhaps like some said, it could be a matter of batch.
That's what I'm thinking. Like I said not all of mine (about half) have the catching issue, and it doesn't make them useless.
I will just make sure that I use Imsto caps with them if the catching is that big of a problem while typing.
If you take the keycap that's causing the issue, and swap it with a switch that's not...does the issue follow the keycap or stay with the switch?
Like I showed in this video I posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Gsf38Veoo)
im buying extras now if anyone has em
see you joke but...im buying extras now if anyone has em
I got 110...forrr...$109.99
Holy ****!...I was totally just kidding...I'll hit you up if I plan on selling some of my blacks...ty :thumb:
That's 525% markup compared to this this GB! Yikes....see you joke but...im buying extras now if anyone has em
I got 110...forrr...$109.99Show Image(http://i.gyazo.com/5059b28d750a48a3b62bb229a7db9a10.png)
see you joke but...im buying extras now if anyone has em
I got 110...forrr...$109.99Show Image(http://i.gyazo.com/5059b28d750a48a3b62bb229a7db9a10.png)
I am typing with Gaterons with Cherry ABS DS caps and there is no any issue with stuck key caps. Either, people who reported the issue got some actually faulty switches, or it was a group thinking issue.
I don't know what a group thinking issue is, but I can guarantee that it's not the switches being faulty. Maybe different tolerances, but that's different from being faulty. I think if nothing else...in my case anyhow, it's the keycaps that are made like ****.
By group-thinking I meant that some individuals were biased by the issues reported by others, instead of testing their switches candidly.
I feel like there are a lot of people looking for reasons not to love the gateron switches. Simply because they are so much cheaper than cherry switches, how could they possibly be the same quality. It's like when you buy the 50 cent Mac and cheese at Aldi and tell yourself it's totally different and not as good as the $1 box of Kraft dinner. It's the same thing. I think these switches are fantastic.
Thank you for your offer azhdar.
That's very kind of you but quickly or not that's not the point.
I still miss a 29,2x8,3cm case anyway and didn't finalized the plate screw locations.
Thank you for your offer azhdar.
That's very kind of you but quickly or not that's not the point.
I still miss a 29,2x8,3cm case anyway and didn't finalized the plate screw locations.
So why are you in such a big rush then?
You're making a huge deal out of the fact that you'll be the last to receive your switches.
Either you want the switches quickly or you don't.
If you're really hung up on the semantics of the group buy being "finished"
then there's nothing anyone here can do to help you.
I'm not intentionally picking sides, but you're kicking and screaming in a otherwise calm GB thread.
Yes posting updates to the situation here publicly must be helping the situation a great dealThank you for your offer azhdar.
That's very kind of you but quickly or not that's not the point.
I still miss a 29,2x8,3cm case anyway and didn't finalized the plate screw locations.
So why are you in such a big rush then?
You're making a huge deal out of the fact that you'll be the last to receive your switches.
Either you want the switches quickly or you don't.
If you're really hung up on the semantics of the group buy being "finished"
then there's nothing anyone here can do to help you.
I'm not intentionally picking sides, but you're kicking and screaming in a otherwise calm GB thread.
Would you mind to consider that there is a problem here, that this thread is not your personal thread, that firing at ambulances is no better manners that the one you are trying to depict and that a more than reasonable amount of private messages have been exchanged before I had to report here to have my money back as it looks like I can dream about the switches *lol*
I appreciate the time you took to "analyze" *lol* the situation, dig a 3 weeks away post and make it sound like it was yesterday and the fact that you are not intentionally picking sides *lol* I bet you won't be the last and that'll be my last post to the pack.
I'll further report here progress for others to know what to expect when a problem arise, if needed.
Thank you for your offer azhdar.
That's very kind of you but quickly or not that's not the point.
I still miss a 29,2x8,3cm case anyway and didn't finalized the plate screw locations.
So why are you in such a big rush then?
You're making a huge deal out of the fact that you'll be the last to receive your switches.
Either you want the switches quickly or you don't.
If you're really hung up on the semantics of the group buy being "finished"
then there's nothing anyone here can do to help you.
I'm not intentionally picking sides, but you're kicking and screaming in a otherwise calm GB thread.
Would you mind to consider that there is a problem here, that this thread is not your personal thread, that firing at ambulances is no better manners that the one you are trying to depict and that a more than reasonable amount of private messages have been exchanged before I had to report here to have my money back as it looks like I can dream about the switches *lol*
I appreciate the time you took to "analyze" *lol* the situation, dig a 3 weeks away post and make it sound like it was yesterday and the fact that you are not intentionally picking sides *lol* I bet you won't be the last and that'll be my last post to the pack.
I'll further report here progress for others to know what to expect when a problem arise, if needed.
Thank you for your offer azhdar.
That's very kind of you but quickly or not that's not the point.
I still miss a 29,2x8,3cm case anyway and didn't finalized the plate screw locations.
So why are you in such a big rush then?
You're making a huge deal out of the fact that you'll be the last to receive your switches.
Either you want the switches quickly or you don't.
If you're really hung up on the semantics of the group buy being "finished"
then there's nothing anyone here can do to help you.
I'm not intentionally picking sides, but you're kicking and screaming in a otherwise calm GB thread.
Would you mind to consider that there is a problem here, that this thread is not your personal thread, that firing at ambulances is no better manners that the one you are trying to depict and that a more than reasonable amount of private messages have been exchanged before I had to report here to have my money back as it looks like I can dream about the switches *lol*
I appreciate the time you took to "analyze" *lol* the situation, dig a 3 weeks away post and make it sound like it was yesterday and the fact that you are not intentionally picking sides *lol* I bet you won't be the last and that'll be my last post to the pack.
I'll further report here progress for others to know what to expect when a problem arise, if needed.
Yes, it was my fault for accidentally posting to a wrong address.
And yes, your package was sitting on my table when it was returned to me because I was consolidating shipping with other packages as well.
And yes again, I did promise you tracking number I forgot when until I had operation two weeks ago, and since then anyone who asked was told that I'll ship this Tuesday when the mailman is coming.
And I'm sorry again that I rescheduled the mailman to come today instead to accommodate my schedule, I am a selfish person.
In short, I am sorry my existence in this GB has cause you much pain. I am also sorry that I receive so many PMs that I need to be constantly reminded of your invoice number or PayPal email.
I will post your tracking number here when it's updated later today, and I will email it to you as well. Since you wanted transparency, if someone diverts your package using the tracking, please don't blame me.
And if you still want your refund, I'll send you your cash back tonight, have the switches for free on me. I don't need your money.
Yes, it was my fault for accidentally posting to a wrong address.
And yes, your package was sitting on my table when it was returned to me because I was consolidating shipping with other packages as well.
And yes again, I did promise you tracking number I forgot when until I had operation two weeks ago, and since then anyone who asked was told that I'll ship this Tuesday when the mailman is coming.
And I'm sorry again that I rescheduled the mailman to come today instead to accommodate my schedule, I am a selfish person.
In short, I am sorry my existence in this GB has cause you much pain. I am also sorry that I receive so many PMs that I need to be constantly reminded of your invoice number or PayPal email.
I will post your tracking number here when it's updated later today, and I will email it to you as well. Since you wanted transparency, if someone diverts your package using the tracking, please don't blame me.
And if you still want your refund, I'll send you your cash back tonight, have the switches for free on me. I don't need your money.
Tracking for mecano: RY*********SG
Yes, it was my fault for accidentally posting to a wrong address.
And yes, your package was sitting on my table when it was returned to me because I was consolidating shipping with other packages as well.
And yes again, I did promise you tracking number I forgot when until I had operation two weeks ago, and since then anyone who asked was told that I'll ship this Tuesday when the mailman is coming.
And I'm sorry again that I rescheduled the mailman to come today instead to accommodate my schedule, I am a selfish person.
In short, I am sorry my existence in this GB has cause you much pain. I am also sorry that I receive so many PMs that I need to be constantly reminded of your invoice number or PayPal email.
Man, what a christic position�
You could have apologize for your mistake instead of being doubtful and suspicious until the switches landed back to you (even if you were which I perfectly understand).
You could have taken a little time to explain to me how and when you were going to send them back to the correct address if this needed time on your side i.e. no clueless answers like "I don't have labels anymore I need to print some, expect next week". I'm not in your head, all I see is someone delaying forever for stranger reasons.
You could have given feedback and not wait each and every time for me to ask you putting me every week in the uneasy position of the beggar.
Now on a personal level, and because your are talking about this, you could have answered normally when I was taking news after your operation i.e. not saying I smartly suggested to get infos on the shipping. If I had only interests in the shipping I would have ask for it only. But I'm being silly, didn't I red on this board that this operation didn't stop you from organizing another GB but giving me news yes, that's elegant.I will post your tracking number here when it's updated later today, and I will email it to you as well. Since you wanted transparency, if someone diverts your package using the tracking, please don't blame me.
*lmao*
Trying to make things more transparent or once again more troublesome for me?
May I remind you that posting personal records is against the board rules?And if you still want your refund, I'll send you your cash back tonight, have the switches for free on me. I don't need your money.
Does it mean the switches have been shipped at last?
Please don't bother to send anything, trust is long gone, just refund me as I already asked you, thank you.
SingPost tracking is sparse and only shows the destination country, which you've already disclosed.Tracking for mecano: RY*********SG
This speaks for itself...
You can acquire my personal address with this tracking number, the process is pretty obvious.I don't want to report the post but hit report post on the one with the tracking number list the reason you want it remove and submit a mod will then remove it.
May a moderator remove this please?
You can acquire my personal address with this tracking number, the process is pretty obvious.I don't want to report the post but hit report post on the one with the tracking number list the reason you want it remove and submit a mod will then remove it.
May a moderator remove this please?
As much as I have a dislike for how you have gone about this Mecano the tracking number as you have said should not be visible as you can redirect it, come on people lets all be happy just XX out the middle part of the tracking number shadovved buddie :)
Ask nicely and you shall receive.
Make sure he thanks you :D
Ask nicely and you shall receive.
Make sure he thanks you :D
With responsibilities come powers and it looks you abused them miserably.
That's very unfortunate Vinny, more than one month in customs is not normal at all from my country perspective, more than one week shouldn't I guess. Did they give you any reason for that? Here it is possible once you have found the 'magical' phone number (which used to be widely available years ago ; times are changing, less working humans, more obfuscated automatized processes) to talk to them and they are pretty helpful if they can.Brazilian postal service has been declining in quality for about a decade, when the e-commerce fever started here. And don't think that I and other people didn't tried to change this: Brazilian post is government-run, with all bureaucracy implicit by this.
If anyone is looking to sell extras, I'm looking for 100 brown switches :D
So, I swapped the MX blacks on my JD40 out for Gateron Clears, and about 10 are catching, oddly enough on SP DSA caps (Deep Space). I fixed one by swapping tops with another Gateron switch that didn't have the catching issue. Has anyone figured out how to fix the Gaterons that catch? Is there something I can file down on the switch top? If 1/4 Gaterons have the catching issue like the JD40 ended up with, I won't be able to avoid having switches that catch on my Phantom build.
Any help with a fix would be wonderful! Especially if you include pictures! Aside from this issue, they're amazing switches though.
Thanks for running this GB Shadovved!
So, I swapped the MX blacks on my JD40 out for Gateron Clears, and about 10 are catching, oddly enough on SP DSA caps (Deep Space). I fixed one by swapping tops with another Gateron switch that didn't have the catching issue. Has anyone figured out how to fix the Gaterons that catch? Is there something I can file down on the switch top? If 1/4 Gaterons have the catching issue like the JD40 ended up with, I won't be able to avoid having switches that catch on my Phantom build.
Any help with a fix would be wonderful! Especially if you include pictures! Aside from this issue, they're amazing switches though.
Thanks for running this GB Shadovved!
Could you explain in more detail the way your switches catch? I am using Granite DSA with Gaterons Blue and Blacks on a GON's Nerd 60 with no plate and they work flawlessly; thus, I just cannot imagine what is wrong with yours.
I also have sticking problem with my gateron tops on JD40 using stock qfr keycaps. Haven't had the time to investigate the issue but my quick observation is that if the keycap is pressed too hard, the keycap would reach the base of the top and somewhat fits snugly preventing it from returning. These happens only to some of the switch though.
So, I swapped the MX blacks on my JD40 out for Gateron Clears, and about 10 are catching, oddly enough on SP DSA caps (Deep Space). I fixed one by swapping tops with another Gateron switch that didn't have the catching issue. Has anyone figured out how to fix the Gaterons that catch? Is there something I can file down on the switch top? If 1/4 Gaterons have the catching issue like the JD40 ended up with, I won't be able to avoid having switches that catch on my Phantom build.
Any help with a fix would be wonderful! Especially if you include pictures! Aside from this issue, they're amazing switches though.
Thanks for running this GB Shadovved!
Could you explain in more detail the way your switches catch? I am using Granite DSA with Gaterons Blue and Blacks on a GON's Nerd 60 with no plate and they work flawlessly; thus, I just cannot imagine what is wrong with yours.
I also have sticking problem with my gateron tops on JD40 using stock qfr keycaps. Haven't had the time to investigate the issue but my quick observation is that if the keycap is pressed too hard, the keycap would reach the base of the top and somewhat fits snugly preventing it from returning. These happens only to some of the switch though.
I know this is a long shot, and maybe not really appropriate to post here, but were there any extra Browns from this drop that I might be able to buy at a marked up price?Nah, if you're looking for extras from the buy this would be the right place to ask. Unfortunately, we sold all the extras a while back. It shouldn't be too hard to find some in the classifieds though.
What are the odds of there being a round 2 of this buy in the near future? Gutted to have missed it!What are you looking for? I bought more than I need and will sell some at cost to those who want some.
I wish I had bought more browns :(How many are you looking for?
I was looking for around 160 blacks and maybe just a few of each other to try. No idea how much shipping from Canada to the UK would cost?What are the odds of there being a round 2 of this buy in the near future? Gutted to have missed it!What are you looking for? I bought more than I need and will sell some at cost to those who want some.
I always love to be the enabler. I apologize to your wallet.I was looking for around 160 blacks and maybe just a few of each other to try. No idea how much shipping from Canada to the UK would cost?What are the odds of there being a round 2 of this buy in the near future? Gutted to have missed it!What are you looking for? I bought more than I need and will sell some at cost to those who want some.
Also cheers for your online tools they are what has led me towards building my first keyboard haha.
Awesome! I am used to paying lots for shipping being from the UK haha. Let me know how much the express will be when you get the chance. Or even possibly a slow but insured as 2-3 weeks is nothing to wait haha.I always love to be the enabler. I apologize to your wallet.I was looking for around 160 blacks and maybe just a few of each other to try. No idea how much shipping from Canada to the UK would cost?What are the odds of there being a round 2 of this buy in the near future? Gutted to have missed it!What are you looking for? I bought more than I need and will sell some at cost to those who want some.
Also cheers for your online tools they are what has led me towards building my first keyboard haha.
I will check when I get home. I should have enough blacks for you. Shipping would be about $10 for Air (no tracking and ~2-3weeks for delivery). I will have to weigh and actually check the cost of the express options. Shipping costs more in Canada than in the US, so I am willing to split it with you to get it to the ballpark you are expecting.
Anyone have around 65 browns?I have lots of browns. PM me and we will sort out the details. :)
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)Awesome! I am used to paying lots for shipping being from the UK haha. Let me know how much the express will be when you get the chance. Or even possibly a slow but insured as 2-3 weeks is nothing to wait haha.I always love to be the enabler. I apologize to your wallet.I was looking for around 160 blacks and maybe just a few of each other to try. No idea how much shipping from Canada to the UK would cost?What are the odds of there being a round 2 of this buy in the near future? Gutted to have missed it!What are you looking for? I bought more than I need and will sell some at cost to those who want some.
Also cheers for your online tools they are what has led me towards building my first keyboard haha.
I will check when I get home. I should have enough blacks for you. Shipping would be about $10 for Air (no tracking and ~2-3weeks for delivery). I will have to weigh and actually check the cost of the express options. Shipping costs more in Canada than in the US, so I am willing to split it with you to get it to the ballpark you are expecting.
So glad I joined rather than carried on observing this is one seriously kind community.
Tracking code received, now it's time for the waiting game. If I'm lucky it'll be delivered in June.
Tracking code received, now it's time for the waiting game. If I'm lucky it'll be delivered in June.
In May probably.
Do not underestimate the incompetence of the Brazilian post. :( At least with a tracking code I can complain if it takes too long.Tracking code received, now it's time for the waiting game. If I'm lucky it'll be delivered in June.
In May probably.
Tracking says that my package arrived in Brazil. Now it goes to Customs, a.k.a. Curitiba's postal black hole (Curitiba is the city here in Brazil who concentrates customs for packages with less than 2 kg).
Now we wait.
mecano's switches were sent from Singapore, couldn't be delivered, returned to Singapore and were resent to him.
While all this happen, my switches arrived in Brazil in 5/5/2015 and are still being hold by customs. And no estimate of delivery. :(
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Any time. It was a pleasure working with you. :)
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Swill was a bang up guy. Was a pleasure to buy these extras he graciously offered. Quick shipping even going from the Canada to US. Thanks again!
Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.Victoire!
Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.holy ****
Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.
When everybody here complains about packages being hold by customs for 1 or 2 weeks, my only thought is "you are adorable".Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.
:eek: this puts our packages disappearing for a week in custom into perspective - I don't think I can ever complain about postage delays again. I hope they're worth the wait!
When everybody here complains about packages being hold by customs for 1 or 2 weeks, my only thought is "you are adorable".Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.
:eek: this puts our packages disappearing for a week in custom into perspective - I don't think I can ever complain about postage delays again. I hope they're worth the wait!
Brazil ain't a country for amateurs.
Months? One time a movie Blu-ray I bought from Amazon took 2 and a half years to be delivered. That coincided with a period where Brazilian customs agents made an special operation to curb illegal imports. Which wasn't my case, but it was affected the same way. Brazil is a mess. Period. :(When everybody here complains about packages being hold by customs for 1 or 2 weeks, my only thought is "you are adorable".Exactly 120 days after being shipped, my switches FINALLY arrived today.
:eek: this puts our packages disappearing for a week in custom into perspective - I don't think I can ever complain about postage delays again. I hope they're worth the wait!
Brazil ain't a country for amateurs.
Well a week is a 700% delay - if a package arrives in the country and customs aren't interested I'll have it the next day. Even so, it's only a week...
I think I'd just pretend the rest of the world didn't exist if mail took months, you have my respect for sticking with it!
Kudos to swill, awesome guy. Just got the browns and clears today. :DAny time. It was a pleasure working with you. :)
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Swill was a bang up guy. Was a pleasure to buy these extras he graciously offered. Quick shipping even going from the Canada to US. Thanks again!
One time a movie Blu-ray I bought from Amazon took 2 and a half years to be delivered.
Awesome. Enjoy your build... :)Kudos to swill, awesome guy. Just got the browns and clears today. :DAny time. It was a pleasure working with you. :)
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Swill was a bang up guy. Was a pleasure to buy these extras he graciously offered. Quick shipping even going from the Canada to US. Thanks again!
Awesome. Enjoy your build... :)Kudos to swill, awesome guy. Just got the browns and clears today. :DAny time. It was a pleasure working with you. :)
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Swill was a bang up guy. Was a pleasure to buy these extras he graciously offered. Quick shipping even going from the Canada to US. Thanks again!
Just so everyone knows. I have sold switches to 3-4 people and I don't have extra to sell anymore. Figured I would mention that at this point. Need to keep some for my builds. :)
Woot. Thx. :)Awesome. Enjoy your build... :)Kudos to swill, awesome guy. Just got the browns and clears today. :DAny time. It was a pleasure working with you. :)
OK. I will check on this when I get home and PM you. :)
Kindness breeds kindness. Many people on here have been very generous and kind to me, its the least I can do.
Swill was a bang up guy. Was a pleasure to buy these extras he graciously offered. Quick shipping even going from the Canada to US. Thanks again!
Just so everyone knows. I have sold switches to 3-4 people and I don't have extra to sell anymore. Figured I would mention that at this point. Need to keep some for my builds. :)
Hey swill, congrats on your 3k posts.
Months? One time a movie Blu-ray I bought from Amazon took 2 and a half years to be delivered.
Should have shelled out for Prime ;)
My reaction was stunned silence and only after reading it again a week later have I managed to reply, but I still don't know what to say. It's just too crazy for words!One time a movie Blu-ray I bought from Amazon took 2 and a half years to be delivered.
One of the few times I've audibly said "what the ****" reading something on the internet.
sorry to bump this. I know the gb has closed but where can I buy red, brown possibly yellow gateron switches? I would like to replace the mx blue on my noppoo choc mini for these if it is possible.https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches
sorry to bump this. I know the gb has closed but where can I buy red, brown possibly yellow gateron switches? I would like to replace the mx blue on my noppoo choc mini for these if it is possible.https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gateron-switches
Will there be another group buy soon? if so i'll cancel my massdrop order.